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From YouTube: Ottawa City Council - May 23, 2018
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Ottawa City Council Meeting of May 23, 2018
Agenda and background materials can be found at http://www.ottawa.ca/agendas
A
Is
ill
today
and
as
such
I'll
be
chairing
the
meeting
we're
gonna
begin
with
a
moment
of
reflection
and
to
introduce
the
moment
of
reflection.
Councillor
Wilkinson
has
a
few
comments
that
she
would
like
to
make
about
some
recently
departed
elected
representatives
from
the
Kannada
area,
so
councillor
Wilkinson,
once
you're
done,
will
will
simply
move
into
the
moment
of
silence.
Thank.
B
You
Merrick,
it's
a
to
former
political
representatives
from
Canada
recently
died.
The
Honorable
Paul
dick,
who
is
a
longtime
resident
of
Canada,
served
as
Member
of
Parliament
for
Lana,
carving
firm
for
twenty-one
years,
their
1972
to
1993.
During
that
time
he
was
Associate
Minister
of
National
Defence,
Minister
supply
and
services,
and
Minister
of
Public
Works
with
responsibility
for
Canada
Mortgage
and
Housing
Corporation.
He
served
his
community
constituency
and
country
with
passion
and
dedication
at
events
who
is
world
war
ii
veteran
was
elected
in
march,
township
council
in
1969
the
same
time.
B
That
is
my
first
election
to
march
township.
He
served
on
the
council
for
seven
years.
He
is
well
known
and
appreciated
in
the
community
as
a
school
bus
driver,
bonia,
vetti's
service
centre
and
a
proud
member
of
the
kanata
legion
410
wing
of
the
Air
Force
Association
and
the
orange
Lodge,
and
also
it's
a
good
friend
of
mine
and
I
was
like
just
remember.
They
use
both
who
served
their
community
well.
A
C
Thank
you.
It's
always
a
good
council
when,
when
your
folks
are
here
to
do
the
anthem
and
this
morning
we're
fortunate
to
have
the
grades
1
&
2
from
Centennial
public
school,
who
will
be
performing
today's
national
anthem,
I
also
just
want
to
recognize
the
the
teachers
who
have
accompanied
them
here
today.
C
Stephanie
Kawamoto
and
Shelley
Endon
Berg
are
here
as
well
as
volunteer
a
parent
volunteer,
and
we
also
have
in
the
audience
with
us
today,
Erica
Braun
'van,
our
local
school
board,
trustee
who
oh
there
she
is
who's
yeah
whose
daughter
is
Shania,
is
as
part
of
the
choir.
So
welcome
Erica
Centennial.
C
This
school
is
often
referred
to
as
being
a
special
place
and
serves
as
a
key
anchor
in
our
community,
where
the
well-being
of
students
in
a
clear
sense
of
belonging,
provide
the
foundation
to
enable
the
students
to
become
well-rounded
and
engaged
young
citizens
with
great
voices.
So
now,
please
join
me
in
providing
a
warm
welcome
to
the
students
from
Centennial.
D
D
A
E
A
Okay,
I'm
also
pleased
to
welcome
Beacon
Hill
civil
councilor
Tim
Tierney
to
join
us
for
the
presentation
today.
I
want
to
extend
a
warm
welcome
to
the
family,
friends
and
associates
of
Mary
Ann,
who
are
here
with
us
as
well.
This
award
recognizes
people
who
have
demonstrated
an
extraordinary
commitment
to
making
our
city
a
better
place
today
and
for
the
future
through
outstanding
volunteerism
or
exemplary
action.
Mary
Ann
Varley
is
recognized
for
her
community
leadership
in
visual
arts
and
cultural
development.
A
Miss
Varley
has
volunteered
in
a
variety
of
leadership
positions
with
arts,
East
and
not-for-profit
organization
that
helps
its
members,
develop
their
abilities
and
interests
in
the
visual
arts.
Arts
East
fosters
the
growth
of
visual
arts
in
Ottawa
and
the
surrounding
area.
Mary
Ann's
contributions
are
highly
commended
by
the
artis
Board
of
Directors
and
management
team
and
by
the
many
artists
she
motivates
and
inspires.
She
has
served
as
the
president
and
vice-president
of
the
organization
and
now
helps
guide
and
mentor.
A
Our
teas
board
members
in
support
of
the
organization's
community
outreach,
Mary
Ann,
has
led
the
grow
with
art
speaker
series
since
2009,
and
she
supports
other
outreach
activities
and
art
exhibitions.
Mary
Ann
is
a
dedicated
volunteer
and
continues
to
contribute
time
to
many
of
the
organization's
exhibitions
and
activities.
A
lifelong
artist
that
generously
and
selflessly
gives
her
time.
Mary
Ann
is
also
an
active
member
of
the
Ottawa
Art
Association.
She
manages
the
old
stick
cooperative
studio
and
continues
to
be
a
very
busy
artist
and
grandmother.
A
F
D
G
Deputy
mayor
Taylor
and
councilor
tyranny,
councilmembers
city,
administrators,
family
friends,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
I
would
like
to
thank
mayor
Watson
and
the
City
of
Ottawa
for
the
support
of
the
Arts
throughout
the
City
Council
and
administrators
work
hard
on
many
portfolios,
be
it
housing
or
transportation,
health
and
safety
infrastructure
of
all
kinds.
So
it's
wonderful
that
they
also
make
culture
and
the
arts
a
part
of
that
vital
work.
The
new
Ottawa
Art
Gallery
and
facilities
like
the
Shankman
Art
Center.
Our
evidence
of
the
support
they
give
to
the
citizens
of
this
city.
G
G
I
have
many
to
thank
including
Carmen,
Dafoe
Ted,
Johnson
Barnard
Poirier,
whose
wisdom
helped
with
the
incorporation
of
art,
East
I,
am
very
appreciative
of
the
board
of
directors,
Josie
DeMaio,
Sheryl,
Matisse,
Laurie,
organ
Claire,
Isley,
Lindy,
Nataraja
and
especially
Lynn
Alford,
for
nominating
for
this
special
award.
I
have
been
enriched
by
your
friendship
and
your
kindness.
Volunteering
is
the
backup
labor
for
any
vibrant
community
and
I
am
richer
from
my
small
contribution
to
the
arts
and
culture
of
the
City
of
Ottawa.
Thank
you.
I
D
Safe
lucky,
you
counts
there,
Nussbaum
yep,
counselor
Mike.
Any
present
sounds
early
/.
You
see
announcer
brockington
your
counselor
Turner
Schenk,
oh
there's
a
coma,
say
coochie
con,
say:
okay,
where's,
that
counselor
Drew's
here
counselor
Moffitt,
your
counselor
Koosh
doesn't
count
sir
hubely
yeah,
Mayer
Watson.
You
have
a
quorum.
Mr.
deputy
mayor,
thank.
A
You
very
much
confirmation
of
minutes
confirmation
of
the
minutes
of
the
regular
council
meeting
of
May
9th
2018
carried
declarations
of
interest,
including
those
originally
arising
from
prior
meetings
we've
received.
None
Communications
has
received,
received
responses
to
inquiries
occo
118
transit-oriented,
affordable
housing.
We
have
a
request
from
councilors,
Leeper
and
McKenney
to
suspend
the
rules
to
lift
this
communication
for
discussion.
We
would
add
it
to
the
agenda
on
suspension
carried
adding
to
the
agenda
carried
petitions.
A
A
Carried
committee
reports,
community
and
Protective
Services
Committee
report
33
item
number
one
Ottawa
paramedic
service,
2017
annual
report
this
received.
Thank
you
item
number
two
updates
to
the
closed-circuit
television
CCTV
policy
is
carried.
Thank
you
item
number
three
commemorative
naming
proposal
wo
Wilhemina
walker
park,
the
committee
recommendation.
Is
the
council
approved
the
proposal
to
name
the
future
park
located
at
3:05,
lysander
place,
wo
Wilhemina
park
and
I
know.
Councillor
Nussbaum
has
a
motion
to
make
a
small
amendment.
Councillor
Nussbaum,
please
Thank.
J
You
mr.
deputy
mayor,
yes,
since
the
meeting
of
the
committee
and
Protective
Services,
we've
learned
from
the
family
of
Wilhelmina
Walker
that
their
preference
is
to
have
a
slight
change
of
how
we
identify
her.
So
we
would
call
her
Willie
Walker
Park,
that's
how
she
was
known
and
the
full
name
of
wo
in
this
case
is
not
Warren
officer
but
wing
officer.
And
so
we
would
change
the
name
to
wing
officer,
Willa,
Walker
and
just
quickly.
Mr.
deputy
mayor.
J
A
A
Item
number
six:
zoning
amendments,
small-scale
industrial
uses
in
commercial
zones-
this
went
through
both
Iraq
and
planning.
Is
it
carried
on
the
report,
as
amended
by
the
Planning
Committee
carried?
Thank
you
item
number.
Seven.
Zoning
amendment
live
music
and
performance.
Venues
hold
item
number
eight
Collective
Bargaining
mandate
for
QP
5500
in-camera,
not
to
be
reported
out.
Council
will
now
consider
item
eight
on
the
agenda.
The
transit
commission,
confidential
report
18
a
pertaining
to
collective
bargaining
mandate
for
negotiations
with
the
Canadian
union
of
public
employees.
A
Qp
local
5500,
Transit
Commission
considered
this
matter
in
camera
at
its
meeting
of
May
16
2018
and
has
referred
a
confidential
direction
to
Council
for
its
consideration
with
councils
concurrence,
we
may
carry
this
direction
to
staff
set
out
in
the
confidential
report
from
the
Transit
Commission,
without
going
in
counts
where
they
were
going
in
camera.
Is
that
carried
carried?
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
benefit
of
those
present
City
Council
approved
City
Council
approved
and
has
approved
the
direction
staff
contained
within
Transit
Commission
confidential
report.
A
We've
received
no
requests
to
lift
anything
on
the
bulk
consent
agenda
as
presented
carried
great.
Thank
you,
and
the
first
item
then,
is
back
to
the
inquiry
that
was
held
on
transit-oriented,
affordable
housing
and
councillors.
Leaper
and
McKenney
you
requested
it
be
hold
so
council,
the
labor.
You
beat
councillor
McKenna
to
the
button
you
your
turn
Thank.
K
You
mr.
mayor
or
chair
and
I'll
keep
this
very
brief.
Thank
you
very
much,
first
of
all
to
the
staff
who
put
in
a
pretty
comprehensive
reply
to
my
inquiry
on
affordable
housing
near
transit
in
the
context
of
councilor
McKinney's
inquiry
with
respect
to
creating
the
task
force.
That
would
look
at
developing
a
strategy
when
I
look
at
the
response
to
my
inquiry.
I
still
see
a
number
of
silos,
individual
programs
that
apply
to
affordable
housing.
K
How
do
you
see,
or
what
do
you
need
from
us
to
create
an
actual
priority
on
affordable
housing
such
that
every
department
that
touches
affordable,
housing
near
transit
is
aware
and
and
working
toward
making
affordable
housing
near
transit,
an
actual
priority,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
silos
in
what
I'm?
Looking
at
mr.
L
Deputy
mayor
I'm,
please
report
that
the
first
meeting
of
the
interdepartmental
steering
committee
that
was
struck
as
a
result
of
councillor
McKinney's
motion
is
next
week,
so
we
will
have
five
different
departments
represented
in
the
discussion
and
trying
to
break
this
issue
down.
I
can
report,
and
my
colleagues
can
supplement
this-
that,
based
on
councillor
leapers
inquiry,
we've
demonstrated
that
there
are
good
land
prospects
in
close
proximity
to
transit
stations,
with
opportunities
for
transit,
supportive,
affordable
housing
in
transit,
oriented
development
areas.
The
zoning
regime
that
we
have
today
is
generally
quite
permissive
for
this.
L
K
L
Mr.
deputy
mayors,
I
think
all
all
options
are
on
the
table
for
us
to
bring
forward
recommendations
to
council.
My
colleagues
from
the
other
departments
will
have
much
to
say
about
implementation
strategies.
As
I
said,
land
availability
is
not
likely
the
question
it
is
likely
a
funding
issue
for
bricks
and
mortar
components
of
construction.
Ok,
well,.
C
You
I
just
want
to
pick
up
on
councillor
leapers
questioning
again.
The
the
response
to
his
enquiry
was
very
substantive
and
provides
us
with
a
very
clear
framework
in
a
very
clear
path
forward.
But
I
do
note
that
you
know
when
we
talk
about
our
official
plan,
that
it
only
encourages
the
production
of
affordable
housing
and
new
residential
development
and
I.
L
Excuse
me,
mr.
deputy
mayor
needed
to
consult
with
staff
on
the
response
so
that,
although
the
targets
are
there
and
we
have
made
some
progress,
I
think
it's
fair
to
say,
we
haven't
hit
the
25
percent
mark,
but
that
is,
as
counsel
had
previously
provided
support
to
us
to
examine
the
issue
of
an
inclusionary
zoning
as
a
tool.
It
will
be
on
our
work
plan
for
2019
to
do
a
background
study
to
go
into
this
in
further
detail
and
gather
more
data
and.
C
Social
housing
providers
are
able
to
actually
build
the
the
affordable
housing
and
I
just
want
to
I
just
want
to
ensure
that
that
we
will
be
looking
at
seriously
at
our
own
land
that
we
that
we
now
own
other
levels
of
government
as
well
I
think
Gladstone
lands.
What
is
a
perfect
example
of
what
can
be
done
right
at
station
and
and
those
air
rights
I
just
want
to
confirm
that.
That's
something
that
the
interdepartmental
working
group
will
be
considering.
Mr.
I
Thank
You
mr.
chair
I
just
want
to
build
on
some
of
those
those
questions
and
comments.
I
do
think
that
there
is
a
gap.
We're
planning
and
the
review
team
really
looks
at
live
application
and
certainly
works
through
some
of
the
provincial
and
federal
funding
agreements
relating
to
housing
and
that
ties
into
to
Janice's
team.
I
I'd
like
to
hear
from
you
on
what
so?
Is
this
taskforce
going
to
be
form?
I
And
if
so,
who
are
the
players
that
will
be
involved
because
in
my
mind,
it's
about
keeping
city
land
and
leveraging
that
in
mixed
use
opportunities
in
our
cheese
where
we
do
offer
public
housing,
but
also
affordable,
rentals
for
families
and
so
on?
So
I'd
love
to
see
a
wide
range
of
partners
at
that
table
so
that
we
can
have
the
planning
arm
and
the
housing
branch
really
worked
together
with
the
different
providers
and
keeping
that
that
public
space.
I
We
want
to
see
development
along
the
stations,
no
question,
but
I
guess
there's
a
sense
from
all
of
us
here
that
we're
losing
the
the
tools
that
we
have
to
ensure
affordability
and
that's
the
key
concern.
So
maybe
you
could
share
with
us
how
this
this
working
group
will
will
be
established
and
who
will
be
at
that
table.
Mr.
L
Deputy
mayor,
the
five
five
departments
who
are
participating
in
the
interdepartmental
working
group
as
a
result
of
councillor
McKinney's
motion
are
our
own
department,
planning,
infrastructure
and
economic
development,
community
and
social
services.
The
housing
branch
from
that
group
will
be
participating.
Transportation
services,
they're,
the
corporate
real
estate
office
under
corporate
services
and
recreation
facilities
and
cultural
services
are
all
invited
to
participate.
What
we
see
right
now
that
this
is
the
first
meeting
of
the
group.
L
We
see
the
group
getting
together
and
looking
at
the
opportunities
on
city
land
and
bringing
forward
some
ideas,
how
we
could
leverage
that
I
think
the
question
councillor
McKenney
raised
about
other
publicly
owned
land
is
also
something
we
can
consider,
particularly
if
land
swaps
or
other
sorts
of
arrangements
might
be
possible.
We
know
the
Gladstone
Station
project
is
a
really
good
example
of
that.
So
at
this
stage
of
the
game,
I
see
it
as
an
internal
exercise,
but
at
such
a
point
as
we
have
something
to
to
work
with,
we
do
see.
L
I
L
Deputy
Mayor,
our
own
Department,
recently
hosted
a
session
in
partnership
with
a
number
of
those
groups
and
we
have
regular
ongoing
dialogue
and
look
forward
to
talking
to
them
as
we
go
forward.
But
the
first
step
to
address
the
motion
and
the
direction
to
staff
is
to
assess
our
own
situation
and
that's
what
we're
doing.
Okay
and.
I
How
would
the
department
feel
today
if
an
application
came
near
future
LRT
routes?
Would
we
withhold
like
what
is
the
policy
position
for
us
to
ensure
that
affordability
is
is
kept
and
that
we
can
leverage
the
city's
goals
as
part
of
that
I
know?
We
want
to
get
there,
but
what's
in
place
today,
so
that
we
don't
lose
opportunities
so.
L
Mr.
deputy
mayor
I
appreciate
where
the
councillors
questions
come
in
we're
asking
two
separate
questions
here,
as
it
relates
to
city-owned
land.
The
city
has
considerable
leverage
in
terms
of
the
city.
The
council
will
have
to
decide
how
that
land
is
used
on
privately
owned
land,
that
there
are
development
requirements
that
we
must
consider
in
the
official
plan,
and
we
generally
look
at
a
range
and
mix
of
housing
types
within
any
given
large
development
in
order
to
satisfy
the
affordable
housing
requirements.
I
L
A
Thank
you
very
much
and
thank
you
councillors,
Kenny,
leaper
and
flurry
for
speaking
to
this
this
morning.
I
think
I
think
our
city
staff
team,
particularly
the
working
group,
have
heard
quite
conclusively
from
members
of
council
that
there's
a
big
appetite
to
certainly
consider
all
options
when
we're
looking
at
equitable
transit
oriented
development
to
make
sure
the
train
doesn't
bypass
all
of
us
that
everybody
in
our
community
gets
an
opportunity
to
to
live
near
our
new
light
rail
system.
So
thank
you
very
much
on
the
inquiry.
E
You
deputy
mayor,
just
a
quick
question
with
regards
to
the
new
alignment
in
Riverside
South
and
what
your
timelines
are
on
this
with
regards
to
that,
because
I'm
interested
in
seeing
potential
opportunities
would
that
be
something
we
would
incorporate
there
as
well
in
terms
of
opportunities?
What
are
your
timelines
with
that
and
I
know
we're
still
maybe
a
few
years
away
with
regards
to
that
development.
So
does
that
timeline
work
well
for
us
to
see
if
there's
potential
opportunities
for
incorporating
that
in
the
suburbs
as
well?
Mr.
L
Deputy
mayor,
first
of
all,
I
think
the
it's
really
important
that
we
do
the
background
study
in
order
to
assess
where
need
actually
is
in
the
research
we
did
for
the
inclusionary
zoning
motion,
which
council
previously
identified
many
suburban
areas
already
provide
a
healthy
mix
of
affordable
housing
within
the
affordability
calculation.
It's
not
so
true,
as
we
get
sent
in
the
center
of
the
city
and
not
so
true,
as
we
get
around
some
of
our
Tod
so
Tod
sites,
but
should
council
accept
our
recommendation
for
our
work
plan
in
2019?
E
That's
good
to
know
because
I
hear
similar
concerns,
obviously
in
terms
of
the
growth
and
development.
It's
a
really
hot
housing
market
now
and
townhomes
are
close
to
$400,000
and
a
lot
of
people
simply
don't
have
the
money
to
afford
that,
especially
if
you're,
if
you're
young
and
just
getting
your
first
job
so
any
opportunities
we
incorporate
I
think
we
have
a
unique
opportunity
with
the
new
Trillium
alignment.
Now
that
goes
further
to
the
town
center
nerver
sites
out
to
look
and
explore
those
opportunities
of
development,
Thank,
You,
deputy
mayor.
A
Thank
you
very
much
councilor
characters
so
received
see.
Thank
you
very
much
before
I
go
to
our
next
held
item.
I
I
did
want
to
point
out
deputy
mayor
Manette
pointed
out
to
me
that
hidden
behind
our
treasurer
over
there
was
former
regional
chair
and
former
council
colleague
Peter
Clark.
Thank
you
for
joining
us
this
morning,
Peter
always
great
to
see
you
back
out
in
the
council
chamber.
A
M
H
You
at
this
point
there
isn't
a
preconceived
conclusion
on
any
of
this.
The
point
is
that
there
are
all
sorts
of
single-use
plastics
disposable
plastics,
sometimes
briefly,
reusable
ones
that
are
in
use
out
there
and
we
have
been
receiving
I
believe
rightfully
so
interest
from
a
lot
of
residence
as
to
whether
Ottawa
was
planning
to
ban
things,
whether
we
were
planning
to
take
more
restrictive
measures.
We've
been
hearing
about
other
cities
that
are
doing
that
and
it
seemed
to
me
the
wisest
approach
was
to
look
at
this
comprehensively,
not
one.
H
Let's
look
at
straws
this
month
and
mags
next
month,
and
so
what
I'm
asking
staff
to
do
is
to
look
at
as
two
parts
of
this
motion.
The
second
part
is
to
look
at
the
variety
of
different
materials
that
are
out
there
and
and
make
suggestions
based
on
best
practices
as
part
of
the
waste
report.
That's
coming
so.
M
M
O
A
I
I'm
not
obvious
I'm
spiking,
oh
I
was
gained
right
you're
on
mr.
Wiley
I'm
favorable
to
the
motion
and
to
the
amendment
proposed
by
counselor
egg.
Why
I
just
want
to
clarify
for
County
Council
purposes
in
2019
you're,
coming
back
your
team's
coming
back
to
Council
with
a
full
waste
plan.
Is
that
correct.
I
Part
of
that
review.
Obviously
these
are
the
authority
around
the
residential
waste
is
in
in
a
purview
of
the
province.
Have
we
have
we
had
obviously
there's
an
election
underway,
but
currently
with
the
Ministry
of
Environment
and
so
on?
Have
we
had
discussions
to
broaden
the
scope
of
the
waste
management
plan
to
see
if
we
can
encompass
the
I,
see
and
I
sector
and
see
what
that
would
mean?
Is
that
part
of
your
team's
review.
O
O
I
Not
planning
it
they're,
not
planning.
Okay.
Can
you
just
remind
council?
What
is
our?
What
is
our
mandate
requirement
by
the
province,
so
my
understanding
is
that
it
is
residential,
but
even
it
is
more
specific
than
Multi
resin
to
go
into
the
multi
residential.
Is
that
would
that
be
fair
to
say,
deputy.
O
I
O
A
B
B
Many
of
the
packages
say
you
can
recycle
them,
but
it
turns
out
you
can't
they
will
not
go
through
the
system
that
we
have,
so
they
go
into
the
garbage
and
but
in
the
meantime,
people
don't
take
the
coffee
out
of
them
and
it
contaminates
every
other
thing
in
the
recycling
that
we're
trying
to
recycle
and
reduces
the
value
of
the
recycling.
It
I
think
we
need
to
get
this
message
out
to
people,
because
the
packages
say
recycle.
B
It
check
with
your
municipality
and
I,
never
later
on
toes
having
a
huge
problem
with
these
as
well
and
as
taking
some
action.
If
we
can't
recycle
them
and
they
and
people
would
have
to
know,
even
if
you
do
put
them
in
there,
for
heaven's
sake,
to
take
the
coffee
out
first,
because
it's
what
will
goes
through
everything
and
every
single
thing
in
the,
but
what's
in
the
other
boxes,
all
gets
contaminated
by
it
and
and
I
didn't
know
that
till
they
talked
to
her.
B
So
it's
obviously
not
out
in
the
general
public
and
the
I
know
they're
trying
to
get
some
things
to
happen
with
those
because
they're
so
numerous
now
that
they
are
causing
serious
problems,
I
want
to
know
is
what
action
real
action.
Are
we
taking
first
of
all
to
get
the
out
of
the
way
stream
right
now
and
second
of
all,
to
work
with
packaging
or
whatever
is
required
to
see
that
we
can
get
something
that
is
either
biodegradable
that
could
go
into
the
green
bins
or
ban
them
entirely?.
O
Deputy
mayor
currently
they're
not
accepted
in
Ottawa
program,
we
have
made
at
Environment
Committee
some
time
ago.
We
made
a
commitment
to
work
with
the
industry
towards
determining
whether
they
would
be
acceptable
in
our
process
and
I
do
know
that
a
similar
process
was
conducted
in
Toronto
and
Toronto
decided
not
to
include
them
in
the
program,
but.
B
If
you
say
they're
not
allowed
in
our
program,
why
don't
we?
Let
people
know
that
people
don't
know
that
and
the
coffee
shops
that
sell
these
should
be
required
to
post
that
these
are
not
recyclable.
They
have
to
go
into
the
regular
garbage
or
something
too,
because
there's
some
place
that
just
sell
pause,
whole
stores
of
them.
B
Is
there
because
some
sort
of
a
program
going
to
go
out
to
try
to
let
people
know
what
the
situation
is,
because
if
you
get
at
healthful
media,
but
if
they
announce
it
to
people
because
I
don't
think
people
know
that
I
know.
People
are
very
hard
trying
to
take
sometimes
even
take
the
coffee
out,
because
they
want
to
recycle
the
little
plastic
cups,
but
they
don't
go
through
the
machines.
Evidently
and.
B
B
And
in
doing
that,
perhaps
we
could
use
that
as
a
way
of
educating
more
people
to
start
using
the
green
bins.
I
still
know
people
who
refuse
to
use
them
and
I
think
it's
getting
more
and
more
important,
because
they're
increasing
the
percentage
we
have
to
go
to
they're,
going
to
ban
certain
things
entirely
from
landfills.
I,
don't
know
how
we're
going
to
do
with
that.
If
people
don't
use
the
green
bin,
so
I
think
it's
really
quite
important
that
we
reread
that
one
up
a.
O
B
O
C
O
Deputy
mayor
I
want
to
make
clear
that
the
enhancements
to
the
green
bin
program
were
really
about
service
delivery.
It
was
in
no
way
an
endorsement
of
single-use
plastic
bags.
The
bags
are
available
in
the
marketplace
widely.
Now,
in
fact,
the
promotion
of
the
enhancements
will
be
geared
around
a
hierarchy
of
mature
of
ways
to
put
material
into
your
your
green
bin
and
we'll
certainly
be
working
with
the
federal
government
and
and
I
suspect.
One
of
the
directions
may
be
compostable
plastic
bags,
where
we'll
certainly
adopt
that
in
the
program.
O
But
even
if
single-use
plastic
bags
take
out,
plastic
bags
were
banned.
There
are
still
many
other
types
of
plastic
bags
that
are
available
in
the
market,
like
your
cereal
bag.
Like
your
milk
bags,
like
your
produce
bags
that
could
be
used
in
the
green
bin,
but
again
just
to
reinforce.
This
was
no
way
an
endorsement
of
single-use
plastic
bags.
It
was
really
about
an
in
service
enhancement
to
kick-start
the
promote
the
participation
in
the
green
bin
program,
which
we
all
know
is
has
been
lagging
behind.
Other
mr.
pallet
Issa.
C
O
Mr.
deputy
mayor,
there
is,
and
perhaps
I
wasn't
quite
clear
enough
as
I
said,
even
if
PLAs
single-use
plastic
bags
were
banned
tomorrow,
there
are
still
many
other
types
of
plastic
bags
like
zero
bags,
etc.
That
would
be
permitted
in
the
program
and
we
would
still
be
under
contract
to
our
world
to
provide
that
service.
C
C
N
N
We
also
have
to
look
at
what
is
done
to
replace
it
and
so
I'm,
aware
of
a
number
of
municipalities
that
have
had
great
success,
eliminating
plastic
waste,
but
then
there's
studies
showing
that,
for
instance,
the
use
of
their
of
reusable
grocery
bags
has
resulted
in
all
sorts
of
contamination,
because
people
never
wash
their
bags.
So
in
this
in
this
investigation,
will
you
also
be
looking
at
how
we
educate
the
public
on
the
alternatives
if
we
are
successful
at
reducing
the
waste?
Mr.
N
Okay
and
I
know,
a
couple
of
us
were
on
a
radio
program
last
week
where
the
host
and
the
co-hosts
were
shocked
to
hear
that
they
actually
should
be
washing
their
reusable
grocery
bags,
so
that
would
put
them
in
the
category
of
not
having
washed
them
in
a
year
or
more
so
I.
Think
if
we
do,
we
need
to
add
anything
to
this,
to
make
sure
that
that
the
ultimate
that
we
don't
just
look
at
eliminating
one
problem
and
then
causing
another
one
or
is
that
going
to
be
part
of
this.
O
F
You
know
it
always
happens
at
Council
when
there's
very
little
on
it.
Okay,
we
get
carried
away
and
quite
absolutely
foolish
right.
We
start
to
go
someplace
to
another
planet,
not
called
Janet,
where
we
have
to
add
in
a
whole
bunch
of
stuff.
In
that
and
we
lose
sight
of
reality,
we
would
be
well-served
to
petition
the
province
to
have
control
over
the
ICN
I
waste,
and
then
maybe
we
could
talk
about
some
of
this
stuff.
F
Okay,
that's
what
we
should
be
doing
and
with
the
change
in
government
I
think
it's
the
perfect
time
to
do
that.
There
will
be
a
change
of
some
sorts,
no
matter
what
it
is
and
I
think
we
put
the
pressure
on
when,
over
the
years
that
I've
been
here,
I
look
at
the
the
people
in
this
city
who
have
been
impacted
directly
by
ICN
I
waste,
and
it
has
been
a
problem
for
them.
F
This
to
me
is
like
I,
don't
know
efficient
in
one
of
those
barrels
with
a
bullet
or
something
I,
don't
honestly
know,
but
it
seems
ridiculous
to
me
that
we
are
actually
when
we
have
so
many
other
things,
we're
not
doing
well.
I,
look
at
the
fact
on
the
green
bin
as
councillor
Wilkinsons
that
you
know
she
said
you
know
we
have
people
that
aren't
using.
F
We
have
a
lot
of
people
not
using
it
or
not
using
it
well,
and
we
used
to
spend
a
lot
of
time
out
in
the
community,
be
very
active
and
very
vocal
on
why
people
should,
and
it
was
an
election
issue
in
the
last
election.
If
you
all
recall-
and
everyone
around
this
table
did
run
in
that
last
election
and
some
people
were
able
to
say
not
my
fault,
I
wasn't
elected
before,
and
other
people
are
saying
not
my
fault.
F
I
wasn't
here
when
it
was
voted
on,
but
the
fact
is
is
that
garbage
is
something
that
really
matters
to
people
and
we're
not
doing
it.
Well.
Is
this
going
to
be
something
that's
going
to
change
the
world
or
change
things
in
Ottawa?
No,
it's
not.
Are
we
actually
talking
about
having
inspectors?
Well,
mr.
Wiley
I
mean
how
many
staff
would
you
have
to
have
if
they're
going
to
go
and
rip
open
people's
garbages,
you
know
we
have.
We
have
summoned
some
inspectors
and
they
actually
go
out
and
look
when
we
have.
F
Someone
has
identified
an
issue,
but
really
I
mean
I.
Think
that
we're
getting
beyond
the
the
ability
for
common
discussion
about
something
that
is
basic
and
doing
that
well,
first,
before
we
get
into
all
of
this
I
agree
about
the
con
of
the
Styrofoam
comment.
Okay,
you
know
what
very
few
places
you
go,
aren't
collecting,
styrofoam
and
doing
something
with
it
and
maybe
there's
a
cost
associated
with
that.
F
F
Are
we
sure
that
we're
doing
what
we
need
to
do?
What
we
expect
other
people
to
do
you
know
what
we're
not
we're
better?
We
are
better,
but
we're
not
so
I'm.
Looking
at
this
and
I'm
thinking,
I
hope.
The
discussion
is
way
larger
than
what
I
see
here
and
I.
Certainly
don't
think
that
this
here
is
something
that
we
take
on
until
we
have
control
over
70%
of
the
waste
in
the
city,
which
is
the
ICN
I
waste.
So
how
do
we
make
that
happen?
A
I
A
O
P
You
mr.
deputy
mayor
and
good
morning
to
everyone,
I
just
want
to
comment
on
the
the
motion.
That's
before
us
and
provide
my
two
cents
first
to
thank
councillor,
Turner
chenko,
who
informed
the
committee
about
consultations
that
the
federal
government
is
actually
leading
on
this
matter.
Members
of
council
received
a
memo
from
mr.
Wylie.
Yesterday,
I
had
asked
for
more
information
about
the
scope
of
these
consultations.
What
exactly
the
federal
government
is
consulting
on
and
just
to
read
two
short
sentence:
federal
government
through
environment
and
climate
change.
P
Canada
is
asking
Canadians
to
share
their
ideas
and
suggestions
on
quote:
moving
Canada
toward
zero
plastic
waste.
The
feedback
received
will
help
develop
a
federal
provincial
territorial
approach
to
manage
plastic
waste
and
reduce
marine
litter.
So
it's
the
intent
of
this
municipality
to
provide
comments
as
part
of
that
consultation.
So
I
thank
councilor
trying
to
chenko
for
bringing
that
forward.
I
do
want
to
get
mr.
P
P
Thank
you
for
that
confirmation.
Secondly,
the
second
part
of
the
motion
talks
about
staff
investigating
best
practices,
programs
and
under
miss
appellate
ease,
but
I
think
to
address
councilor
Harder's
point.
There
doesn't
talk
about
bringing
recommendations
forward,
so
we
study
a
lot.
We
look
at
what
others
are
doing,
but
again
we
need
to
continue
to
move
this
municipality
forward
with
respect
to
our
own
waste
and
waste
diversion.
Will
the
city
of
Ottawa's
report
after
you've
done.
Your
investigation
include
a
list
of
recommendations
as
well
of
how
we
can
make
improvements.
P
O
Deputy
mayor,
the
overall
strategy
will
definitely
have
some
hard-and-fast
recommendations,
there's
many
things
that
have
to
line
up,
including
getting
ready
talk
discussing
with
the
public
and
with
council
the
service
level
for
the
next
collection
contracts,
which
will
be
coming
in
within
the
next
three
years.
So
we
are
getting
short
on
time
to
get
all
this
work
done,
but
certainly
the
bulk
of
the
recommendations
will
be
around
service
levels,
which
will,
in
armed
things
like
how
we're
approaching
the
green
bin,
how
we're
approaching
our
recycling
programs
etc.
But.
P
O
P
E
O
O
E
That's
my
point,
mr.
Whalley,
that
whatever
the
staff
discovers
from
this
motion
going
forward
in
terms
of
the
study
that
should
be
included
in
the
producer
paid,
Responsibility
Act,
in
my
opinion,
correct
the
other
thing
just
wanted
to
bring
to
the
attention
of
the
colleagues
and
I'm
sure.
Most
of
you
are
aware.
The
issue
for
our
waste
stream
is
the
problem
that
it's
been
lagging
us
for
a
while.
It's
a
three-way
partnership.
The
packaging
belongs
to
the
federal
government.
E
The
ICN
I
in
construction
weights
belongs
to
the
province
in
terms
of
responsibility
and
the
Municipal
Act
or
our
pro
responsibility
is
the
household
a
residential
waste.
So
you
know
when
you
split
that
stream
into
three
different
levels
of
government,
you're
gonna
get
this
overlapping
of
legislation
as
well
as
overlapping
or
whose
responsibility
it
is.
E
The
packaging
is
a
federal
responsibility
has
just
said
to
me:
we
have
to
start
looking
at
those
levels
of
government
going
forward
and
saying
what
are
they
doing
for
packaging
versus
what
is
happening
in
the
Iceni
sector
and
I
agree
with
counsel
harder
that
is
70
percent
of
the
waste
stream
anyway
stream.
You
look
at
it.
The
ICN
is
the
major
chunk.
Yet
you
go
into
some
of
these
establishments
that
are
on
the
city
yeah.
E
What
are
they
referring
to?
Are
they
referring
to
the
material
inside
the
pod?
That's
compostable,
or
are
they
talking
about
the
pot
itself?
So
there's
confusion
all
the
way
through
this
stream,
and
that's
something
that
when
we
need
to
clarify
in
this
motion,
is
just
one
piece
of
that
clarification?
How
much
can
we
you
know
how
much
should
we
be
taking
on
as
a
municipality
versus
other
municipalities
more
so
what
can
be
done
at
different
levels
of
government
and
I?
Think
that's
where
we
need
to
go
as
a
municipality.
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr.
H
I'm
glad
I
have
a
sense
of
humor
with
me
here
today,
cuz,
you
know.
Sometimes
the
council
meetings,
you
have
the
simplest
most
innocuous
proposal
that
you
put
forward
and
really
what
this
has
shown
to
me
is
that
there
are
all
sorts
of
issues
that
different
councillors
have,
which
they
would
like
to
see
addressed
and
I
haven't
heard
a
single
one
that
ought
not
to
be
addressed.
The
question
is
what
is
in
our
mandate
to
address?
What
can
we
do
meaningfully
at
this
time?
H
And
that's
really
all
this
motion
is
trying
to
do
it's
trying
to
say
the
world
has
a
plastics
problem.
Ottawa
is
a
small
part
of
it.
We
can
do
something
about
it.
There's
a
federal
consultation
which
has
started
we
can
participate
in
that
we
have
a
waste
management
report
coming
out
in
2019.
We
can
look
at
plastics
and
make
sure
that
those
are
included
as
part
of
that
report
and
look
at
the
best
practices
of
what
other
municipalities
are
doing,
because
we
can
learn
something
from
them.
It's
not
prejudging
any
outcome.
H
H
We
asked
his
staff
investigate
best
practices,
practices
and
programs
that
have
been
adopted
by
other
municipalities
to
reduce
the
use
of
single-use
plastics
and
to
report
back
to
Council
on
their
findings.
As
part
of
the
broader
waste
diversion
report
coming
to
Council
in
2019,
we
could
choose
to
ask
them
to
do
it
or
not
to
do
it.
It
seems
to
me
asking
them
to
do.
H
It
makes
a
lot
more
sense
and
that's
what
this
motion
is
calling
on
cows
to
do
so,
although
I
recognize,
there
are
a
lot
of
issues
from
incineration
to
many
others
that
we
will
want
to
address
at
some
point
at
the
right
time.
I'm
simply
asking
for
support
that.
We
include
a
good
hard
look
at
single-use
plastics
in
our
wastes
report
in
2019
and
that
we
participate
in
federal
consultations.
So
thank
you.
I
urge
you
to
support
this.
A
A
C
Thank
You
deputy
mayor
I
just
have
a
few
questions
for
four
staff.
This
is
a
report
that,
oh
you
know
overall
I,
certainly
support.
I
think
that
it
does.
It
takes
us
in
the
direction
as
a
city
that
we
want
to
go
in
where
we're
formalizing
our
music
venues
and
ensuring
that
the
the
zoning
matches
up
to
that.
C
However,
specific
to
to
my
ward
last
week,
I
started
to
hear
from
residents
who,
but
the
Bronson
Center,
located
on
Bronson,
Avenue
and
they're
just
behind
and
with
concerns
about
what
this,
what
this
will
mean
for
them
in
terms
of
their
concerns
around
noise
and
loading
and
unloading,
etc
and
I.
Just
you
know,
I
think
that
I
mean
I,
don't
disagree
with
them.
Anytime.
You've
got
noise
complaints.
You
know
that
it
takes
a
lot
to
actually
make
that
complaint
and
I've
asked
staff
over
the
last
six
years.
C
Unfortunately,
none
of
those
complaints
until
late
last
week
came
to
me
so
I
wasn't
aware
that
there
was
a
conflict
between
the
residents
and
and
the
center,
but
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
able
to
put
in
place
restrictions
on
on
the
noise.
You
know
it's
it's
my
job
after
today
to
to
work
with
those
residents
to
work
with
staff
in
the
center
to
to
put
measures
in
place
to
ensure
that
that
the
noise
and
other
issues
are
mitigated,
but
I.
Just
wonder
if
I
could
hear
from
staff
what
are
the?
C
Q
Deputy
mayor,
the
current
by
law
provides
for
complaint
driven,
come
intervention,
so
55
decibels
after
11
p.m.
from
point
of
reception
is
measured,
and
if
it's
above
that
bylaw
intervention
can
be
done
as
well.
With
regards
to
music
venues,
the
applicant
can
apply
for
noise
exemptions
through
our
normal
process,
which
requires
counselor
a
sign-off
so
from
a
representation
of
the
community.
That's
served
there.
Q
The
counselor
has
a
capability
intervene
as
well
to
and
ultimately
we
do
have
another
tool,
I
mean
if
things
become
problematic
and
we
talked
about
the
Bronson,
Center
and
I
know
the
counselor
talked
to
city
staff
and
she's
correct
in
2017.
There
were
three
complaints
in
2016
one.
So
there's
been
work,
that's
being
done
with
the
center,
but
we
could
license
and
have
additional
restrictions
as
well
too.
So
there's
another
tool
there.
Q
So
there
are
tools
at
our
disposal
we
feel
as
a
result
of
as
the
councillor
mentioned
from
the
last
six
years,
a
quite
a
drop
it's
because
of
some
of
that
enforcement,
but
we
can
certainly
look
at
individual
areas.
So
that's
those
are
the
tools
we
currently
have
and
that
are
your
disposal
for
problematic
areas.
C
Q
Mayor,
it's
truly
an
exceptional
tool.
We
don't
normally
use
it
because
the
other
tools,
you
know
generally
resolve
things
and
in
discussions
when
we
get
complaints
and
we
intervene
as
well
as
the
noise
exemption,
where
you
have
oversight
to
sign
off
or
not.
If
you
want
to
give
the
annoys
exemption
if
it's
required
by
the
venue,
so
it's
something:
no,
that's
an
exceptional
one
move.
We
could
look
at
that
if
you
wish
for
a
specific
area,
if
you're
having
issues.
Thank.
C
Q
C
D
L
Deputy
mayor
acknowledged
we're
working
with
the
councilor
closely
on
the
issues
in
the
Byward
market
and
those
are
in
issues
of
restaurant
versus
nightclub
in
the
zoning,
this
report
does
not
change
the
zoning
requirements
from
one
night
clubs.
It
is
a
supplemental
zoning
for
other
performance
venues
and
other
sorts
of
spaces,
such
as
churches
and
other
Legion
halls,
those
those
sorts
of
things
I,
don't
believe
that
the
issues
are
connected
and.
I
And
that's
fine,
thank
you
for
that.
But
how
do
we
ensure
that
the
music
venue
doesn't
turn
into
a
nightclub
like
it's
one
thing
to
have
a
concert
at
I?
Think
it
speaks
to
theater
and
and
other
uses,
which
you
know
99%
of
time
will
not
be
a
problem,
but
in
the
instance
where
you
know
an
operator
gets
access
to
some
of
those
public
spaces
and
starts
operating
it
more
as
a
nightclub
venue.
L
Mr.
deputy
mayor
I
think
it's
still
essentially
a
noise
and
property
standards
issue,
as
it
relates
to
the
enforcement
of
this.
It
also,
as
we
have
in
the
other
instances,
looked
at
sort
of
the
regulation
of
alcohol
licensing
in
Ontario
as
a
significant
part
of
it.
The
the
zoning
bylaw
will
have
a
distinct
separation
between
the
uses
and
it's
always
a
judgement
of
what
the
principal
use
of
the
facility
is
and
we
believe
that
performance
menu
and
the
nightclub
is
sufficiently
distinct
in
the
by
law
to
allow
enforcement
and.
I
Would
you,
in
terms
of
the
alcohol
and
gaming
corporation,
these
venues
would
not
necessarily
maybe,
except
for
the
legion's,
but
would
not
have
a
permanent
liquor
license.
What
are
them?
Is
there
other?
Are
you
seeing
some
mechanisms
so
us
so
that
we
can
ensure
temporary
permit
requirements
and
and
and
not
not
permanent
permanent
requirement
or
permanent
requests?
I
L
Deputy
Mary,
if
the
principal
purpose
of
the
establishment
is
to
serve
alcohol
and
provides
music
as
a
means
to
attract
patrons,
it
is
a
nightclub.
It
is
not
a
performance
venue
and
that,
from
our
perspective
from
the
zoning,
that
would
not
be
the
same.
Whereas
a
performance
venue
is
principle,
objective
is
to
bring
in
patrons
who
pay
or
don't
pay,
to
attend
a
concert
or
musical
or
theater
event.
L
I
Could
would
you
be
I
know
that
we're
having
two
sets
of
conversations
here,
but
in
the
context
of
the
by-road
market?
Let's
put
that
aside
in
the
context
of
ensuring
that
the
AGCO
is
understanding
of
these
zoning
changes,
could
you
write
to
the
AG
CEO
to
signify
the
purpose
of
the
zoning
change
and
ask
for
I
guess
some
clarity
or
some
engagement
if,
if
a
venue
does
does
change
its
its
primary
use,
that
then
steps
outside
of
the
the
performance
venue
component?
Yes,
we.
A
A
D
A
O
G
C
It's
a
road
closure,
whereas
apartment
623
is
a
not-for-profit
organization.
Therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
council
approved
the
road
closure
for
Cambridge
Street
north
from
Somerset
Street
West
to
the
Dead
and
a
point:
30
meters,
south
of
Somerset
West
from
3:00
p.m.
on
Wednesday
June
13th
to
7:00
p.m.
on
Wednesday,
June
13th
for
apartment,
61,
3-event,
providing
it
meets
the
requirements,
conditions,
an
approval
of
a
special
events,
advisory
team
see
yeah.
R
R
I
won't
well
not
just
yet
I
wanted
to
say
a
few
words
about
it:
it's
not
a
secret
that
is
age
that
as
age,
demographics
in
Canada
shift,
more
and
more
of
our
population
will
be
made
up
of
seniors,
including
some
of
my
colleagues
I
think
seniors
are
one
of
the
fastest-growing
population
groups
in
Canada.
In
fact,
by
2036
seniors
will
represent
twenty
four
point:
five
percent
of
the
national
population-
that's
one
in
four
people
that
shift
in
population
will
be
highly
visible
for
us
at
the
municipal
level.
R
R
The
growing
demographic
of
seniors
in
our
community
I'd
also
like
to
acknowledge
the
many
seniors
who
have
been
instrumental
in
building
our
city
menus
many
seniors
devote
hours
each
week,
volunteering
for
our
community
through
schools,
community
associations,
events
and
charities.
Let's
send
the
message
to
the
seniors
in
Ottawa
that
they
are
important
and
valued
I'm
happy
to
once
again
move
this
motion.
I
hope
you
will
all
join
me
in
declaring
June
2018
as
seniors
month
in
the
city
of
Ottawa.
Thank
you,
mister
acting
mayor.
Thank.
A
H
Thank
you
very
much.
This
actually
just
happens
to
relate
to
the
past
item,
in
the
sense
that
the
city
has
little,
if
any
planning
authority
over
municipal
over
landfill
sites
within
its
municipality,
as
we
have
seen,
we
saw
carp
in
a
previous
term,
we've
been
seeing
it
in
the
east,
and
now
this
is
a
motion
that
a
number
of
big
cities
and
cities
in
Ontario
have
been
bringing
forward
to
the
province
to
seek
authority
over
planning
of
our
landfill
sites.
H
This
is
just
a
notice
of
motion,
obviously,
will
debate
it
later,
but
therefore
be
it
resolved.
The
City
of
Ottawa
calls
upon
the
government
of
Ontario,
whoever
that
may
be
when
we
pass
this
motion
and
all
political
parties
to
formally
grant
municipalities
the
authority
to
approve
landfill
projects
in
jacent
to
their
communities
and
BIA
further
resolved
that
city
of
ottawa
send
copies
of
this
resolution
to
the
next
Minister
of
Environment
and
climate
change,
for
Ontario
to
the
next
Premier
of
Ontario,
to
the
amo
and
to
the
large
urban
mayor's
caucus
of
Ontario.
Thank
you
thank.
A
N
N
And
whereas
the
program
is
intended
to
provide
residents
with
some
financial
assistance
in
terms
of
protection
of
individual
properties
through
reimbursement
of
a
portion
of
the
costs
of
insulation,
of
protective
plumbing,
to
reduce
the
risk
of
basement
and
cellar
flooding
resulting
from
city
sewer,
backup
and
whereas
the
program
currently
requires
homeowners
to
submit
their
application
prior
to
having
the
protective
plumbing
device
installed.
As
set
out
in
section
3
of
bylaw.
2016
376.
And
whereas
numerous
homes
were
affected
by
flooding.
N
As
a
result
of
the
extraordinary
rainfall
that
took
place
between
October
29th
and
the
30th
of
2017.
And
whereas
several
of
the
affected
homeowners
have
advised
that
they
were
directed
by
their
insurance
to
have
protective
plumbing
devices
installed
as
soon
as
possible
or
risk
cancellation
of
insurance
against
flooding.
With
the
result
that
these
homeowners
were
unable
to
first
submit
an
application
for
partial
reimbursement
of
costs
under
the
program
pursuant
to
the
bylaw,
therefore
be
it
resolved
that
City
Council
waived.
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
and
that's
a
notice
of
motion
for
next
meeting
notice
of
intent
from
the
Ottawa
Community
Housing
Corporation
to
hold
the
annual
general
meeting
of
the
shareholder
at
Council
meeting
scheduled
for
June
13th
2018
before
the
next.
An
almost
final
item
of
business
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
it's
been
pointed
out
to
me
that
former
councillor
hunter
has
joined
us
as
well.
Today,
he's
got
a
bit
of
a
following
over
there.
Thank
you
signing
autographs.
Thank
you
very
much
for
joining
us
councillor.
Hunter.