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Ottawa City Council - Agenda 74 - Wednesday, April 13, 2022
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A
C
I'm
pleased
to
welcome
my
council
colleagues
this
morning
for
our
second
in-person
council
meeting
this
year
and
to
a
number
of
special
guests
who
we'll
hear
from
in
just
a
moment.
We
have
a
special
presentation
this
morning.
I
want
to
thank
elder
amy,
bailey
and
elder
albert
dumas
for
joining
us
this
morning
to
deliver
indigenous
blessings.
D
Good
morning,
everyone
greetings
from
the
algonquin
people
on
the
south
side
of
the
kitchen.
The
chichiman
behind
me
was
made
by
my
grandfather,
matt
bernard,
who
served
several
terms
as
chief
of
picochnogon
in
the
early
20th
century.
While
he
saw
many
changes
come
from
our
people
during
this
during
his
lifetime.
D
D
D
Thank
you
for
relieving
all
of
our
various
aches
and
pains
and
worries
and
frustrations
and
hurts,
and
thank
you
for
helping
us
to
be
open
to
hearing
the
knowledge
that
others
will
share
today.
Thank
you
for
helping
us
to
treat
each
other
kindly
today,
as
we
would
like
to
be
treated.
Thank
you
for
helping
us
to
face
whatever
challenges
come
today
with
integrity.
D
D
Thank
you
for
bringing
us
to
a
new
understanding
of
our
work
together
today.
That
makes
our
hearts
happy
and
thank
you
for
always
watching
over
our
families
and
friends
and
each
of
us
and
for
bringing
us
good
health,
prosperity
and
everything
that
we
need
to
live.
A
good
life
miguel
miguel
may
glitch.
E
E
C
C
We
have
a
number
of
presentations
today.
As
you
know,
we've
had
a
little
bit
of
a
backlog
of
opportunities
to
honor
individuals
and
groups
in
our
community
because
of
kovid,
but
we're
back
in
in
person.
Settings
here
and
we'll
be
presenting
two
mayor's
city
builder
awards,
as
well
as
recognizing
the
great
success
of
the
carlton
ravens
basketball
team.
C
This
award,
the
mayor's
city
builder
award,
recognizes
people.
Who've
demonstrated
an
extraordinary
commitment
to
make
our
city
a
better
place
through
volunteerism
and
exemplary
acts
acts
it's
my
pleasure
to
invite
norm
robillard
to
come
forward
at
this
time
norm
if
you'd
come
forward
and
your
award
counselor
laura
dudas
to
join
us
as
well.
Welcome
on
it.
C
C
Safety
and
act
and
the
ministry
of
labor
act
concerning
post-traumatic
stress
disorder.
He
helped
coordinate
toy
mountain
christmas
campaign
at
the
ottawa
paramedic
service
and
facilitated
collections
for
the
ottawa
food
bank
for
his
volunteerism
and
he's
this
is
just
a
fraction
of
the
things
norm's
been
involved
with
it's
my
pleasure
on
behalf
of
your
counselor,
laura
dudas,
to
present
the
mayor's
city
builder
award
to
norm
robier.
Congratulations.
F
Thank
you
mayor
for
thank
you,
mayor
for
this
opportunity
today
for
me
to
be
here
with
my
my
amazing
family,
for
my
amazing
family.
Who's
allowed
me,
particularly
my
wife
to
you,
know
be
out
of
the
home
over
the
years
so
many
times
to
coach
a
team
or
do
this
or
do
that
so
a
big
shout
out
to
my
family.
I
also
want
to
thank
city
council
for
the
accolades
and
for
being
here
today
to
the
other
award
recipients
here
today.
F
F
F
F
The
paramedic
service,
where
I
served
for
35
years,
also
did
an
outstanding
job
and
took
on
roles
that
I
probably
never
thought
it
would.
When
paramedics
went
into
those
nursing
homes
to
vaccinate
the
most
vulnerable
in
our
society,
I
saw
for
myself
both
the
anxiety
and
the
relief
on
the
faces
of
our
seniors.
F
The
people
who
served
in
the
wars,
the
people
who
paved
the
way
for
us
to
be
here
to
be
able
to
put
a
small
needle
in
their
arm
and
do
my
part
to
help
protect
them,
is
one
of
the
best
feelings
I've
had
in
my
long
time.
On
the
front
lines,
I
want
to
thank
ottawa
public
health
for
the
confidence
they
had
in
the
in
paramedics
and
our
service
to
help
deliver
those
vaccines.
So
thank
you.
F
I
have
had
many
opportunities
since
moving
to
ottawa
in
1985
to
attend
algonquin
college
to
help
my
neighbor
neighborhood
and
my
community.
The
east
end
of
ottawa
is
where
I've
lived
for
30
years
and
where
our
two
sons
grew
up
and
went
to
school
as
a
young
adult
along
the
way.
I
met
other
coaches,
community
activists
and
leaders
who
showed
me
the
way
there
were
some
really
good
role
models
for
me
to
follow.
One
of
them
is
former
gloucester
and
city
of
ottawa.
Councillor
raynor
blows.
F
F
Coaching
youth
sport
over
30
years
has
been
very
rewarding
many
teams-
players,
parents
and
opponents.
It's
nice
to
see
the
young
men
I've
coached
later
on,
when
I
cross
paths
with
them
and
they
smile
and
say
hey.
I
think
you
coached
me
a
few
years
ago
and
I
go
yeah,
don't
remind
me
how
long
ago
that
was
to
see
them
grow
up
and
become
members.
F
To
say
you
learn
more
from
losing
than
winning
no
sir;
rather
they
say
you
learn
more
from
losing
than
winning
well
over
the
years.
The
gloucester
cougars
must
have
learned
a
lot
when
they
met
up
with
the
blackburn
stingers
coached
at
the
time
by
none
other
than
councillor
tim
tierney
we've
had
our
battles
on
the
ice.
Thank
you.
F
I
want
to
thank
daryl
wilton,
the
president
of
the
paramedic
association
of
ottawa
and
the
paramedic
at
the
president
of
the
paramedic
association
of
ontario
is
here
today
through
the
that
association.
I've
been
able
to
do
a
lot
of
volunteering
and,
as
a
professional
too,
as
a
paramedic
school
visits,
you
know
we
would
go,
introduce
bring
the
ambulance
to
the
kids
at
the
school
if
they
ever
needed
to
call
9-1-1.
F
C
G
C
Formed
in
2008,
the
ottawa
senior
pride
network
is
a
volunteer,
run
network
of
lgbt
seniors
and
allies
that
envisions
a
world
in
which
lgbt
seniors
are
honored
and
included
in
their
communities.
The
network
network
brings
people
together
and
works
to
ensure
community
members
have
access
to
appropriate
services
and
facilities
as
they
come
to
need
them.
The
organization
provides
a
range
of
health
and
training,
resources
and
opportunities
where
lgbt
seniors
can
learn,
interact
and
share
ideas
in
a
community
lgbt
or
vegeta
the
resources.
C
C
C
Your
actions
are
based
on
a
commitment
to
human
rights,
safety,
social
justice
and
social
inclusion.
That
also
include,
rather
that
also
acknowledges
and
respects
the
varying
degrees
of
self-acceptance
of
lgbt
seniors.
It
is
empowering
for
the
community.
The
network
builds
on
the
strengths
and
resilience
of
lgbt
seniors
and
treats
them
as
active
agents
in
their
own
well-being.
I
want
to
take
this
opportunity
to
thank
the
many
people
who
have
volunteered
and
supported
the
important
work
of
the
ottawa
seniors
pride
network.
C
B
B
B
I
thank
simon
thibu,
executive
director
retired
director
from
the
centertown
office
for
proposing
our
name.
Thank
you
also
to
jacqueline
peltier
and
gabrielle
lopez
executive
director
of
the
ontario
coalition
of
adult
training
who's.
Here
today
with
us,
we
are
a
small
team
of
francophone
volunteers
and
I
want
to
introduce
my
colleagues,
nicole,
olivier
carroll,
carmen
pacquiao
who's,
my
spouse.
B
We
want
to
give
a
service
provider
the
tools
they
need
to
help
all
the
members
of
our
group,
all
in
the
spirit
of
equity
and
inclusion
in
our
region.
The
francophone
team
worked,
for
instance,
with
the
pulling
charge
center,
the
champlain
center,
the
st
louis
residence
with
us
francophone
seniors
in
ottawa.
Provincially
we
serve
the
federation
of
francophone
seniors,
who
are
retired
at
the
federal
level.
We
renew
our
annual
commitment
to
various
activities
against
transphobia
and
homophobia
hi.
My
name
is.
D
C
H
C
Up
guys
we'll
get
we'll
get
the
team
and
the
coaches
and
the
president,
the
vice
president
and
the
trainers
come
on
up
here
and
councillor
fleury,
our
sports
commissioner
and
councillor
menard
our
award
counselor
and
welcome
everyone.
We
had
a
great
breakfast
this
morning
to
celebrate
this
incredible
dynasty
here
in
the
city
of
ottawa
and
it's
great
to
have
the
team
back
after
a
really
challenging
year
with
covet
19.
D
C
The
team
is
the
most
dominant
dynasty
in
the
history
of
youth
sports
basketball,
having
won
their
16th
wp
mcgee
trophy
and
their
third
straight
national
championship,
we're
extremely
proud
of
the
ravens
head
coach,
taffy,
charles
and
these
hard-working
and
talented
athletes.
My
congratulations
to
the
entire
team
and
thank
you
matt.
I
C
C
C
F
On
behalf
of
the
university,
I
would
like
to
thank
you,
mayor
watson
and
the
city
council,
for
receiving
us
today
to
the
other
recipients.
We
would
like
to
also
congratulate
you
all
for
your
achievements.
We
truly
appreciate
the
community's
love
and
support.
We
take
pride
in
honoring
this
city
with
great
passion
and
dignity,
after
not
having
a
chance
in
being
here
in
2020
due
to
kovid.
We
are
glad
that
we
managed
to
make
it
up
this
year
with
another
championship
in
2022.
F
This
year
was
truly
tough,
but
through
the
grace
of
god,
we
managed
to
remain
victorious.
I
would
like
to
thank
my
teammates
for
their
amazing
character
and
dedication
during
the
season.
We
had
a
rough
start,
but
we
pulled
it
through,
and
I
appreciate
you
bearing
with
me
and
my
fellow
cap
co-captains
throughout
the
year.
I
would
like
to
thank
our
coaches
for
their
tremendous,
hard
work
and
gabby
our
therapist
for
taking
care
of
us
during
the
course
of
the
year.
So,
thank
you
guys.
I
appreciate
it.
E
C
So
thank
you
again
to
our
two
city
builder
award
recipients
and
the
carlton
ravens.
Before
we
get
started.
I
have
one
more
little
bit
of
news
to
share,
despite
the
many
challenges
of
reaching
young
students
in
high
school
across
the
city
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
Due
to
the
pandemic
youth
ottawa,
which
is
our
partner,
is
getting
ready
to
relaunch
a
few
initiatives.
This
spring
this
morning,
youth
ottawa
announced
that
the
mayor
for
a
day
contest
is
once
again
open
for
applications
after
a
two-year
hiatus.
C
I
know
some
people
around
the
table
want
to
run
for
mayor
but
longer
than
a
day,
so
you're
not
eligible
it's
just
for
the
day.
Students
from
high
schools
across
the
city,
grades
9
to
12,
can
visit
the
youth
ottawa
website
for
more
details
on
how
to
join
me
for
a
day
of
work
at
city
hall
at
youth
ottawa
ca
this
goal.
C
In
the
area,
mail
newsletters,
if
you
could
put
a
little
link
to
youth
ottawa.ca,
we
want
to
get
as
many
people
participating
as
possible
and
want
to
thank
jesse
card
executive
director
and
the
entire
team
at
youth
ottawa
for
their
tireless
work,
great
collaboration
on
a
number
of
projects
over
the
years.
Good
luck
to
all-
and
let's
spread
the
word
about
this
exciting
project.
Madam
deputy
clerk
roll
call,
please.
G
F
I
C
C
C
K
L
K
E
Market
my
hand
up,
but
just
a
quick
question
for
by
way
of
an
update,
very
quick,
okay
and
I'm
just
wondering
under
the
financial
implications
it
says,
should
additional
provincial
social
services
relief
funding
not
be
provided.
Local
agencies
will
not
likely
have
sufficient
funding
to
address
the
enhanced
special
needs.
I'm
just
wondering
if
there's
an
update
or
an
outlook
for
that
additional
funding.
B
C
C
Fedco,
finance
and
economic
development
committee
report
number
36,
counselor
mckenny
has
a
motion
and,
I
believe,
you've
accepted
as
a
friendly
amendment.
Some
wording
to
the
effect
is
that
in
caitlyn
the
new
motion
for
existing
capital
and
future
acquisitions,
I
think
we
were
is
that
cover
what
we
need
it
to
be
covered.
C
D
Yeah,
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
put
the
motion
up.
It
was
sent
out
with
the
procedure
with
the
procedure
memo
last
night,
but
essentially
it
it.
It
moves
money
from
the
recommended
money
into
the
tax
stabilization
fund
into
the
housing
reserve.
So
it's
still
in
a
reserve
fund
and
the
the
5
million
would
be
used
for
other
acquisitions
of
existing
market
rental
units.
D
We
we
know
that
we
lose
seven
units
in
ottawa
for
every
one
new
community
unit
that
is
built,
so
we've
got
to
always
have
the
flexibility
to
pick
up
market
units,
whether
it's
rooming
houses
or
or
small
buildings,
where
people
will
not
be
renovated
where
we
will
not
lose
affordable
market
rents
and
then
the
the
the
amendment
to
also
include
capital
really
is
we
all
know
that
inflation
is
pushing
up
costs?
It's
pushing
up
costs
for
new
builds.
D
C
N
G
C
Item
17
motion
to
request
federal
funding
to
offset
the
operating
deficit,
oc
transfer,
resulting
from
the
work
from
home
model,
carrying
item
18
scope,
approximate
cost
and
timeline
precision
to
affect
the
various
fare
structures
on
sorry
on
transit,
ridership,
all
transportation
committee
report
number,
twenty
seven
republic,
parking
services,
annual
report,
vapor
annual
vehicle
de
silva's
distession
moth,
carried
and
received
item
20
motion
left
turn:
prohibition
on
renfrew
avenue
at
bronson
avenue
carried
bulk
consent
agenda.
Does
anyone
wish
to
remove
anything
from
the
bulk
consent
agenda?
C
So
councilor
harter
has
a
declaration
of
interest
and
she
will
remove
herself
from
voting
on
h
on
the
vote.
Consent
carried
okay,
we'll
go
back
to
the
items
that
were
held
item;
one
high
performance
development,
standard,
counselor,
menard
and
councillor
dudas,
councillor
menard.
If
you'd
like
to
introduce
your
motion
thanks.
N
N
This
is
really
going
to
help
with
our
climate
resiliency
when
it
comes
to
our
buildings
as
well
as
line
up
with
our
official
plan,
the
five
big
moves
and
where
we
want
to
head
in
terms
of
direction
as
a
city
and
the
motion
that
is
in
front
of
you
now
does
essentially
five
things
which
I'll,
which
I'll
outline
the
most
emotion
goes
through.
The
report
and
and
kind
of
has
a
lot
of
language
about
changes
in
the
report
without
describing
exactly
what
they're
doing
so.
N
I'm
gonna
describe
what
the
changes
are
doing.
The
the
first
item
moves
to
revise
the
proposed
hpds
energy
requirement
size
threshold
to
align
with
the
city
of
ottawa's
current
planning
application,
complex
site
plan
definition.
We
already
have
this
we're
just
aligning
it
with
that
definition.
It
simplifies
the
difference
in
application
types
and
increases
the
number
of
buildings.
G
P
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
mayor.
It
is
correct.
Staff
do
support
the
motion.
It
was
tabled
at
planning
committee
on
march
10th
and
we
did
ask
for
some
more
time
to
go
through
the
details
of
the
motion
and,
as
a
result,
we've
you
know.
We've
made
some
improvements.
We
dealt
with
the
official
plan
timing
issue
aligning
with
current
site
plan
processes,
so
there
have
been
some
tweaks
to
the
motion
and
improvements.
P
J
J
P
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
Yes,
there
was
cost
information
that
was
shared
with
members
of
council.
Perhaps
I'll
ask
miss
hagan
who's.
The
project
lead
on
this
file.
Just
to
briefly
describe
the
cost,
which
you
know,
staff
undertook
their
best
efforts
to
provide
information.
Recognizing
there
is
high,
you
know
variability
in
terms
of
the
scale
of
the
project
and
so
on.
So
I'll
ask
miss
hagan
if
she
could
add
to
that.
B
Apology,
sorry
give
me
a
second
to
get
connected,
so
the
crossing
estimate
that
was
in
the
report
was
a
range
that
was
capturing
all
of
development
types,
including
homes
and
commercial
buildings,
trying
to
capture
that
broad
spectrum
of
development
types.
When
we
went
into
further
analysis,
which
was
provided
in
the
memo
to
council,
we
went
into
sort
of
more
detail
on
the
residential
buildings,
single-family
homes,
residential
buildings,
multi-unit
buildings,
all
that
kind
of
detail,
so
that
there
is
a
bit
of
a
range
depending
on.
J
Oh
sorry,
I
thought
she
was
checking
the
number
you're
saying
three
percent
on
single-family
homes,
but,
as
we
know,
most
people
entering
into
the
housing
market
are
not
entering
in
at
the
single
home
level.
What
about
towns
and
semis
and
and
the
more
common
entry-level
housing?
What
what
kind
of
increase
are
we
projecting
on
those
houses
for
people.
B
Okay
yeah,
so
I've
pulled
up
the
details
from
the
memo
tier
one
for
all.
Residential
building
types
is
three
and
a
half
percent
for
tier
two:
it's
six
percent
for
multi-unit
residential
buildings
and
five
percent
for
detached
homes
and
row
houses
or
stock
town
homes
and
for
tier
three.
It
is
around
four
percent
for
multi-unit
residential
buildings
and
ten
percent
for
detached
homes
and
row
house
and
stack.
J
Okay,
so
ten
percent,
for
it
remains
at
ten
percent
for
entry-level
homes,
for
anybody
any
one
of
our
residents
that
are
looking
to
get
into
the
housing
market.
Once
this
plan
is
implemented,
they
can
look
at
as
much
as
a
10
addition
on
to
the
the
cost
of
their
home
to
cover
what
we're
trying
to
do
here.
C
E
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I'm
gonna
a
quick
question
right
follow-up
from
councillor.
Huble
is
I'm
I'm
gonna
move
from
the
cost
and
one
percent
to
ten
percent.
I'm
gonna
ask
the
staff
to
really
clarify
the
process
on
the
application
fee,
because
now
we're
going
to
adopt
different
process
and
re
are
we
revising
also
the
way
we
submit
site
plan
on
a
new
build
and
how
much
that
gonna
translate
into
application
fee.
P
E
P
E
Thank
you
and
another
question
I
probably
asked
at
iraq
committee
meeting,
but
I'm
going
to
have
it
on
the
record
you
will
have
enough.
Is
that
going
to
be
in-house
be
able
to
review
all
these
applications
or
we're
going
to
have
a
third
party
that
will
be
will
be
hiring
more
engineer
and
I'm
assuming
consultant
to
review
all
these
changes
and
the
ad
thing
that
we're
doing
on
the
high
performance
development
standard
whole
report,
including
the
motion
that
came
right
from
the
floor.
P
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
mayor.
Thanks
for
the
question.
Yes,
initially,
the
plan
is
to
use
a
third
party
energy
consultant
to
review
the
energy
modeling
components
of
the
high
performance
development
standard.
A
lot
of
the
other
aspects
will
be
reviewed
by
staff,
but
for
that
particular
piece
we
want
to
be
timely
and
responsive.
So
the
intention
is
to
to
use
that
third
party
for
those
reviews.
E
All
right,
thank
you
for,
and
my
my
last
question
probably
will
be,
and
I'm
sure
probably
I
have
it
from
a
legal
perspective.
We're
not
going
all
the
changes
for
that
specific
into
our
building
code.
Ontario
building
code,
we're
going
through
our
planning
act,
and
that's
probably
legal
we'll
have
to
answer
that.
D
Thank
you
very
much,
I'm
going
to
speak
in
favor
of
the
of
the
motion,
and
I
want
to
thank
the
mover
and
seconder
on
this.
Given
our
climate
change
motion
that
we
passed
to
raise
standards,
I
think
this
is
really
important
and
I
think
we're
doing
a
favor
for
first-time
buyers
and
second-time
buyers
to
save
energy
costs
in
the
long
term.
So
I
think
this
is
really
important
that
that
we
have
these
high
standards.
It's
unfortunate.
D
Q
Thanks,
mr
mayor,
I'm
supportive
of
the
motion
and
support
of
the
report
as
a
whole.
It's
true
that
these
standards
will
add
to
the
cost
of
the
construction
of
new
buildings
somewhere
between
one
and
ten
percent,
but
there
are
also
benefits
some
that
are
easy
to
quantify
and
some
that
are
less
easy
to
quantify,
but
clearly
benefits.
Q
There's
as
counselor
kavanaugh
touched
on,
there'll,
be
a
lower
cost
to
heat
or
cool
the
home,
especially
during
extreme
weather.
There
are
public
health
benefits
to
these
standards
to
meeting
these
standards,
we'll
see
a
healthier
tree,
canopy
in
our
community,
it'll
put
our
builders
and
our
city
in
a
better
position
to
meet
anticipated
future
changes
to
provincial
building
code
requirements.
That's
a
positive!
Q
The
cmhc
is
already
incentivizing
these
measures
and
some
of
the
funding
that
they
offer
to
new
builders.
So
there's
already
good
reason
for
builders
to
adopt
some
of
these
practices
that
would
allow
them
to
meet
the
metrics.
There's
also
benefits
to
waste
diversion
if
we're
using
more
sustainable
construction
methods,
there's
less
that's
going
to
a
landfill
in
construction
processes,
so
lots
of
benefits
and
encourage
colleagues
to
support
this
report.
As
well,
thank
you
mayor.
C
E
E
I
thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
that,
in
closing
for
my
questions,
I
I
understand
my
council
colleague
their
comment,
but
I
I
agree
with
councillor
hubli.
This
is
going
to
create
more
costs
and
and
it's
going
to
create
another
layer
of
actually
process
and
the
federal
government
and
the
province
within
the
time.
Right
now
and
my
colleague
most
of
the
time
I
hear
them
talking
about
affordability.
E
This
is
the
cost
that
we're
adding
right.
Now,
it's
not
going
to
go
into
developer.
It's
going
to
come
to
the
pocket
of
the
people
that
they're
buying
homes
right
now
and
they
need
they
need
to
be
able
to
buy
homes
now
not
in
10
years.
So
from
the
added
process
we
have
a
bu,
we
have
an
amazing
building,
called
ontario
building
code
and
2012
was
was
was
modified
to
accommodate
some
of
those
changes
and
I'm
I
I
cannot
support
this.
E
K
Yeah,
when
I
first
originally
saw
saw
this
this
policy
proposal.
I
think
I
thought
that
you
know
we
were
it's
certainly
certainly
well
intentioned
and
worked
that
and
and
worried
a
little
bit
that
you
know
what
the
housing
affordability
crisis,
that
we
have
right
now
that
we
might
be
working
across
purposes
but
castle.
Gower
makes
a
very
good
point
that
you
know
over
time.
These
savings
can
be
realized
through
through
through
energy
savings.
K
This
this
building
is,
is
built
in
such
a
manner
that
you
know,
despite
the
fact
that
it
is
over
40
dwellings,
they
could
they
could
heat
and
cool
this
building
on
17
a
year,
because
of
the
way
that
it's
built
to
the
standard
that
it's
built,
that's
a
massive
amount
of
savings.
If
my
energy
bill
was
17
a
month,
I'd
be
pretty
excited
about
it.
I
think
I
think
any
one
of
us
would
or
anybody
listening
would
so
I'm
wondering
if
steph
might
be
able
to
you
know.
O
Mr
mayor
staff
can
do
further
research
on
this,
but
my
initial
impression
is
that
the
budget
has
focused
very
much
on
home
retrofit
so
far,
which
is
very
beneficial
in
the
community
and
very
we're
grateful
the
federal
government's
paid
attention
to
what
we
have
asked
for
as
a
municipality
on
those
areas.
I
do
believe
cmhc
is
working
through
new
programs,
as
chair
gower,
councillor
gower
had
said
on
this
and
I
think
they
will
align
over
time.
O
C
B
B
I
I
think
I
totally
support
the
timing
of
this,
though,
really
quite
worries
me,
and
that
is
because,
while
potential
homeowners
will
realize
savings
down
the
line,
the
biggest
barrier
they
have
right
now
is,
is
the
cost
of
the
home
initially,
and
I'm
quite
worried
that
an
increase
of
anywhere
from
one
to
ten
percent
on
the
cost
of
the
home
is
going
to
be
borne
by
people
who
are
already
having
a
very
difficult
and
challenging
time
getting
into
the
housing
market.
So
we
do.
B
As
councillor
deru
says,
we
have
a
pretty
rigorous
set
of
standards
in
the
in
the
new
home
construction
right
now.
I
I
would
love
to
support
this
today,
but
I
I
I
can't
just
simply
because
it
creates
a
an
additional
barrier
and
it's
going
to
make
it
more
and
more
difficult
for
young
homeowners
to
get
into
the
market.
B
I
would
love
to
see
this
brought
up
again
once
we,
we
figure
out
some
of
the
incentives
that
the
new
home
buyers
can
access
to
get
in
after
cmhc
rule
changes-
and
I
I
this
is
a
big
issue
for
me-
and
I've
been
torn
on
it
really
torn
on
it.
But
I
have
to
say
that
today
is
not
the
day
that
I
can
like.
I
can
support
this,
and
I'm
only
doing
it
because
I
need
those
homeowners
to
to
get
into
a
home.
R
R
So,
given
that
we
are
in
a
climate
emergency,
given
that
council
has
declared
that
for
the
city
of
ottawa,
when
are
we
going
to
tackle
it?
If
not
now,
no
one
wants
to
add
additional
costs
to
the
cost
of
buying
a
home,
and
we
certainly
recognize
the
challenges
that
many
people
have
in
buying
a
home
in
this
city
and
across
our
province
right
now.
But
we
have
to
take
the
stand
to
pass
this
today
because
we
have
to
set
that
standard.
R
We
have
to
set
that
expectation
going
forward
with
new
builds,
and
hopefully
there
will
be
other
incentives
and
grants
and
tax
benefits
that
homeowners
can
tap
into
that
can
help
offset
some
of
those
costs,
but
if
not
now,
when
that's
the
the
other
question
that
colleagues
have
to
wrestle
with.
Thank
you
mayor.
E
Thank
your
worship,
we're
also
in
a
housing
emergency
and
an
affordability
emergency,
and
we
have
just
passed
an
official
plan
that,
according
to
the
obj,
increases
the
cost
of
each
additional
housing
unit
in
the
city,
the
cost
to
build
it.
And
then,
if
we
add
on
to
that
this
we're
making
things
much
more
complicated.
My
daughter
just
went
through
an
issue
of
buying
her
first
house
and.
E
E
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
mayor,
and
I
I
have
to
reiterate
the
suggestions
by
my
colleagues
that
the
time
to
act
is
now.
This
is
what
addressing
climate
change
looks
like.
There
is
no
fooling
anyone
that
addressing
climate
change
toward
the
long-term
sustainability
of
this
planet
isn't
going
to
impose
costs
and
it's
those
costs
are
going
to
be
borne
by
everybody.
It's
not
just
going
to
be
new
homeowners,
we're
going
to
have
to
redesign
the
way
we
move.
People
around
the
city
we're
going
to
have
to
redesign
office
buildings.
E
It's
it's
going
to
cost
our
society
to
address
the
mistakes
that
we've
made
as
a
society,
and
I
am
absolutely
in
favor
of
supporting
the
amendments
to
make
these
high
performance
development
standards
applicable
to
more
buildings,
because
you
know
I've
got
a
21
year
old
kid
who
hasn't
begun
in
the
housing
market
yet,
but
I
am
very,
very
concerned
about
how
he's
going
to
live
in
a
warming
planet
with
all
the
costs
that
that
imposes
it's
not
just
the
short-term
cost
of
housing.
It's
the
long-term
costs
of
developing
and
living
on
a
sustainable
planet.
E
D
D
Again,
you
know
we
talk
about
housing,
crisis,
homelessness,
crisis
and
we're
always
looking
up
the
wrong
and
not
down
at
people
who
are
actually
without
housing
and
people
who
cannot
afford
to
enter
into
any
market
rental
market
housing
market-
and
you
know
when
we,
when
we
talk
about
adding
costs
onto
the
price
of
a
new
build.
I
would
remind
my
colleagues
that
it
was
actually
our
affordable
housing
sector.
D
D
Savings
are
necessary
energy
retrofits
that
are
the
way
we
produce
greenhouse
gases
through
through
energy
through
transportation,
have
got
to
be
addressed
in
in
every
city
and
and
in
this
city
we
have
to.
We
have
to
move
bold
boldly,
and
we
have
to
ensure
that
in
in
fact,
we
we
aren't
leaving
people
vulnerable
moving
into
the
future.
Thank
you.
I
And
I
want
to
thank
don
and
team
for
working
and
rebecca
for
working
with
me
on
on
this.
This
follows
the
direction
that
or
the
review
that
we
brought
forward
at
committee,
so
I'll
read
it
that
staff
be
directed
to
explore
opportunities
to
pilot
home
energy,
labeling
and
work
with
nrcan
to
support
plans
to
require
mandatory
home
energy
labeling
at
time
of
sale
staff
be
further
directed
to
explore
disclosure
of
participating
homes
as
a
model
home
information
on
the
online
portal.
I
I
think
councillor
lou
loff's
point
was
bang
on
there.
If
you
have
the
right
technologies
that
are
available
today,
yes,
they're
a
little
more
expensive,
but
overall,
your
cost
of
ownership
over
10
years
over
20
years
are
actually
lower,
even
if
it
looks
at
face
value,
as
today,
the
home
purchase
it's
more
expensive.
Your
energy
costs
are
being
more
and
more
more
and
more
constrained,
more
and
more
volatile,
more
and
more
challenging
in
the
years
councilor
mckinney's
point
was
bang
on
ottawa.
Community
housing
and
others
are
a
really
good
example.
I
When
you
look
at
the
beginning
price
of
the
capital,
it
seems
expensive,
but
right
away
year,
one
you're
starting
to
make
money
when
you
think
about
your
lower
energy
costs.
So
I
understand
those
who
are
look
at
the
shell
cost
of
saying
hey.
This
is
the
cost
of
housing.
It's
dangerous,
it's
dangerous,
but
you
know
what
over
time,
you're
actually
saving
money
very
quickly.
So
I'm
looking
to
my
colleague
eli
who
there
was
a
number
of
retrofit
programs
on
our
my
first
term
of
council
that
were
quite
effective
in
upgrading
some
of
the
buildings.
I
Now
the
the
technology
is
in
place.
We
just
have
to
embrace
it.
I
think
measures
like
this
that
council
take
are
important
because
it
also
signalizes
to
an
industry,
an
industry,
that's
ready
to
be
part
of
the
energy
evolution,
the
nets
race
to
zero
part
of
the
climate
change
and
also
the
housing
affordability.
I
D
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
sorry
that
I'm
late
to
arriving
today,
I
did
want
to
speak
to
the
opportunity
that
I
see
here
certainly
is
in
the
retrofit,
so
people
buying
older
homes.
But,
as
you
know,
mayor,
we
are
in
ottawa,
leading
with
the
company
that's
open
in
bar
haven,
that
is
net
zero,
that
is
producing
homes
that,
instead
of
during
the
build
cycle,
each
producing
a
dumpster
or
two
of
waste
are,
are
producing
one
green
garbage
bag.
D
All
of
you
probably
remember
the
most
recent
affordable
housing
application
for
bar
haven
on
long
fields,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about
was
perhaps
using
this
plant
to
produce
the
product
to
build
it
we're
just
not
it's
just
too
new
to
be
able
to
meet
that
fast
commitment
of
funding
that
was
coming
to
match
it
from
the
federal
government,
but
this
is
live,
it
is
producing
and
if
anyone's
interested
I'd
be
happy
to
give
them
a
tour.
Thank
you.
C
N
Thanks
very
much
mayor,
I
think,
on
the
timing,
I'll
just
address
a
few
comments
by
my
colleagues
on
the
timing.
Multiple
big
cities
in
ontario
and
across
the
country
already
have
this
and
they've
had
it
for
years
and
years,
and
so
some
of
them
are
on
their
fourth
iteration
of
this
plan
on
the
timing,
we're
actually
far
behind
on
the
timing,
we're
laggards
on
the
timing.
N
The
second
is
that
anyone
who
knows
about
building
retrofits
knows
that
it's
much
cheaper
to
do
it
up
front
than
it
is
to
retrofit
later.
This
saves
money.
When
you
do
it
up
front
and
that's
the
way
the
world
is
going
with
retrofits
and
more
efficiency
in
our
in
our
home.
So
it
makes
sense
to
do
this
on
new
builds,
which
is
what
we're
we're
targeting
here.
Also,
these
are.
N
These
are
large
multi-unit
buildings,
larger
square
footage
that
we're
targeting
here
so
there's
economies
of
scale
to
do
this
for
people
that
are
putting
up
these
buildings.
The
third
thing,
I'll
mention
is
that
the
actual
cost
range
that
staff
estimated
it's
important
to
get
this
into
dollars,
instead
of
just
the
one
to
ten
percent,
because
the
one
or
two
percent
isn't
really
accurate.
It's
the
dollar
that
range
that
we're
looking
at
per
unit
and
it's
it's
they've
talked
about
six
between
six
thousand
and
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
per
unit.
N
Anyone
who
knows
again
about
retrofits
and
savings
that
is
extremely
low
for
the
cost
savings
that
you're
achieving
over
time.
This
will
save
people
money.
It
will
save
renters
money
over
time.
Staff
do
mention
in
the
report
as
well.
The
benefits
include
operational
savings,
improved
property
values,
ghg
reductions,
local
ecology
and
public
health.
N
So
I
think,
let's
support
staff
on
this.
Let's
support
going
a
little
bit
further
than
we
might
have
started
on
this
to
make
sure
that
we're
catching
up
to
other
cities
that
have
already
done
this.
So
I
really
appreciate
folks
support
and
the
good
debate
and
discussion
we're
having
here
today
mayor
thanks.
C
L
L
The
metering
of
electric
vehicle
charging
is
an
important
consideration
of
design,
but
to
minimize
costs
can
be
managed
through
solutions.
Other
than
utility
grade.
Metering,
therefore
be
resolved
was
with
respect
to
the
report
that
council
approved
on
document
3
high
performance
development
standards
site
plan
metrics
be
updated
to
revise
the
electric
vehicle
charging
requirements
in
tier
1
and
2
as
follows.
L
On
page
22
replace
tier
1,
electric
vehicle
requirement
with
the
following
text,
where
parking
is
provided,
projects
are
to
evaluate
ev
charging
readiness
and
indicate
appropria
approach
and
number
of
ev
ready
spaces
in
conjunction
with
any
requirements
as
referenced
in
zoning,
see
tier
2
for
recommendations
on
page
38
by
replacing
the
tier
2
residential
requirement.
With
the
following
residential
buildings,
all
parking
spaces
for
use
by
residential
occupancies,
including
car
share
spaces.
Excluding
visitor
parking
spaces
shall
have
an
energized
outlet
installed
adjacent
to
the
space
for
the
purpose
of
electric
vehicle
charging
level.
L
2
charging
capability
must
be
provided
for
each
parking
space.
In
addition,
the
infrastructure,
condo
agreements
also
referred
to
as
parking
area.
Condo
agreements
show
layout
requirements,
process
and
allowance
for
installation
of
electric
vehicle
charging
stations
in
mixed-use
buildings.
The
electrical
infrastructure
shall
include
revenue,
revenue,
metering
capacity
capability.
Forgive
me
so
that
meters
may
be
installed
to
apportioning
energy
costs
to
the
different
occupant
types.
When
ev
supply
equipment
is
installed,
all
projects
are
recommended
to
consider
the
metering
needs
and
how
they
will
be
met
for
designs
where
electric
vehicle
energy
management
systems
is
intended.
L
The
electrical
infrastructure
shall
include
all
communications
equipment,
control
systems,
installation
licensing
and
permitting
required
to
operate
on
page
38
by
replacing
the
tier
2
commercial
building
requirement
with
the
following
ten
percent
of
all
new
parking
spaces
serving
commercial,
industrial
and
institutional
occupancies
shall
have
an
energized
outlet
installed
adjacent
to
the
space
for
the
purpose
of
the
ev
charging
in
mixed
used
buildings.
The
electrical
infrastructure
shall
include
sorry.
Forgive
me
my
computer's
trying
to
start
restart
perfect
timing.
As
always
apportioning
energy
costs
to
the
different
occupant
types.
L
When
ev
supply
in
equipment
is
installed,
all
projects
are
recommended
to
consider
the
metering
needs
and
how
they
will
be
met
for
designs
where
an
ev
energy
management
system
is
intended.
The
electrical
infrastructure
shall
include
all
communications
equipment,
control
systems,
installation
licensing
and
permitting
required
to
operate.
C
J
P
J
Okay,
thank
you,
so
two
thousand
so
make
sure
I
understood
correctly
an
estimated
two
thousand
per
space
on
multi-use
resident
or
multi-residential,
but
no
it's
just
advice
to
anybody,
building
a
home
whether
it
be
a
single
family,
home
or
a
multi
like
a
semi
or
a
town.
It's
only
advice.
There's
no
requirement.
D
D
O
Mr
mayor,
perhaps
I
can
start
and
mr
herwire
can
add
if
he
has
anything
additional
we've
had
ongoing
discussions
throughout
energy
evolution
with
hydro
ottawa.
There
certainly
are
some
limitations
in
some
parts
of
the
city
at
this
time
with
the
hydro
transmission
grid,
local
grid
and
hydro
ottawa
is
actively
working
on
it
because
there
is
a
market
transformation
underway,
but
as
these
standards
are
initially
voluntary,
there
is
time
for
adaptation,
and
certainly
if
there
was
a
limitation
in
an
area
capacity
issue,
staff
would
take
that
into
account
in
applying
the
standards.
D
L
Thank
you
and
thank
you
to
counselor
harder
for
saying
that
I
was
going
to
say
a
similar
thing,
but
I
will
just
make
the
point
that
this
is
an
infrastructure
motion
right,
so
we
want
to
set
it
up
so
that
that
possibility
is
there.
But
what
we're
hearing,
including
at
our
webinar
yesterday,
is
that
we
do
not
have
the
power
to
if
everyone
were
to
get
an
electric
car.
L
I
gather
in
california,
three
percent
of
people
have
electric
cars
and
the
grid
went
down
three
percent,
so
we
want
to
encourage
you
know
the
government
wants
to
give
rebates.
I
mean
I
drive
an
electric
car.
However,
the
capacity
of
the
grid
is
not
there,
so
I
will
be
supporting
this,
but
I
just
say:
you'll
have
to
pay
attention
to
what's
to
come
next,
when
the
grid
isn't
able
to
sustain
this
and
what
else
that
might
mean,
but
I
I
still
will
support
this
infrastructure
being
in
place,
but
everyone
stay
tuned.
P
B
S
O
And
it
would
be
revisited
over
time
as
we
learn
more
about
it.
I
mean
it's.
We
understand
that
many
of
the
standards
we've
proposed
in
these
guidelines
are
based
and
modeled
on
those
in
other
municipalities,
such
as
the
city
of
toronto
and
some
of
the
ones
in
the
gta.
So
I
think
our
target
is
largely
coming
from
that.
B
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
My
questions,
I
mean
we
are
seeing
a
market
transfer
transformation
and
a
lot
of
people
are
very
interested
in
electric
vehicles,
given
the
cost
of
gasoline
these
days,
but
I
guess
my
question
is:
although
this
is
aspirational,
we
are
going
to
have
to
consider
the
cost
of
retrofits
and
I'm
wondering
if
we're
studying
that
at
all
for
areas
in
the
city
that
you
know,
we
don't
don't
have
any
charging
stations
are
we
are
we
studying
it?
B
O
Hydro
ottawa
is
actively
working
with
private
suppliers
for
charging
stations
to
look
at
and
install
them
in
various
parts
of
the
city,
and
we
know
many
building
owners
are
already
getting
the
demands
from
their
customers
for
these
stations
so
they're
starting
to
adapt
on
their
own,
and
we
do
believe
that
there
will
be
further
federal
support
for
building
retrofits
for
charging
in
time.
They're.
Just
we're
not
at
that
point
yet,
but
we're
having
signals
that
that
might
be
coming.
O
So
I
think
counselor
mr
meredith,
the
counselor's
question
is
based
on
again.
A
brand
new
build
is
probably
cheaper
than
a
retrofit
in
almost
any
version
of
renovation.
I
would
based
on
rule
of
thumb
if
it's
costing
about
two
thousand
dollars
per
space
on
a
new
build.
I
would
imagine
it's
about
25
to
35
percent
higher
on
a
retrofit,
but
that's
a
it's
a
ballpark
and
we
don't
have
specific
numbers.
But
again,
these
new
standards
before
council
today
are
not
about
retrofits.
C
L
I
just
want
to
thank
everyone
for
this
folsom
discussion
about
this.
I
think
that
we,
you
know
with
this,
and
the
previous
motion
are
setting
the
stage
for
a
more
sustainable
city,
and
I
think
that
there
is
a
strong
demand
for
not
just
ev
vehicles,
but
options
for
people
to
choose
more
environmentally
friendly
modes
of
transportation.
So
I
do
want
to
thank
everyone
for
their
consideration
of
this.
This
motion
and
for
this
conversation.
C
B
J
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
just
wanted
to
check
back
with
staff.
We
talked
a
bit
about
this
committee.
I
like
what
we're
trying
to
do
here.
I
I'm
one
of
the
people
that
are
doing
it
with
my
own
equipment
at
home,
but
my
concern
for
the
converting
the
city
equipment
over
gas,
blowers
and
trimmers
and
so
on.
J
There's
certainly
good
benefits
to
doing
so
for
the
environment.
I
I
fully
support
that.
My
question
is:
what
happens
if,
when
they
start
at
seven
o'clock
in
the
morning
and
those
crews
go
out
to
cut
the
grass
on
that
first
battery
dies
by
10
o'clock
in
the
morning?
Are
we
going
to
buy
so
many
batteries
that
somebody
can
do
their
full
shift
that
they
can
do
today
or
what's
the
plan
here
like
well?
Will
we
be
done
cutting
all
the
parks
for
the
day
at
10
o'clock.
H
Mr
mayor,
thank
you
for
the
question.
The
there's
really
two
prong
right
now
that
we're
focusing
on
one
is
the
pilots
themselves
that
we're
going
to
be
carrying
out
this
summer,
and
we
have
about
six
crews
across
the
city
that
will
be
piloting
the
electric
equipment
and
that
information
is
going
to
help
inform
really.
H
H
That's
been
done
on
that
front,
so
in
a
year
or
two
from
now
that
landscape
may
be
very
different,
and
that's
where
the
the
grain
plan
that
we're
going
to
be
bringing
forward
to
council
as
part
of
the
in
the
earlier
the
term
is
kind
of
kind
of
lay
out
the
type
of
equipment
that
we
have.
The
type
of
usage
for
that
equipment
where
the
industry
stands
in
terms
of
being
able
to
deliver
basically
from
an
operational
perspective,
our
needs
and
then
what
we
see
in
terms
of
a
phase-out
plan.
H
And
we
fully
expect
that
the
phase-out
plan
will
be
carried
out
over
multiple
years,
based
on
basically
the
industry's
capacity
to
to
meet.
Basically
our
operational
demands
and
it's
a
big
city.
So
we
expect
that
there
may
be
areas,
for
example,
in
downtown
areas
where
we
could
start
phasing
out
more
quickly
than
areas,
for
example,
in
rural,
where
access
to
power
is
very
different.
The
nature
of
the
work
that
we
do
is
very
different.
So
that's
why
the
pilots
that
we're
doing
are
so
important
in
terms
of
informing
that
plan.
J
H
J
B
B
Is
it
practical?
Are
the
city
staff
use?
You
know
a
fairly
heavy-duty
industrial
type
equipment
because
of
the
the
nature
of
the
work
that
they're
doing
does
electric
do?
Can
we
get
the
similar
equipment
in
electric
that
will
deal
with
it,
and
so
so,
if
those
questions
are
going
to
be
answered
in
the
pilot
project,
then
I
fully
support
this.
So
thank
you
very
much.
S
Thank
you,
your
worship
and
I'm
pleased
that
the
environment
committee
approved
the
motion
to
test
electric
versions
of
leaf
blowers
and
other
yard
tools,
with
an
ultimate
objective
to
completely
phase
out
city-owned
gas-powered
lawn
maintenance
equipment.
As
we
know,
most
gas
powered
lawn
equipment
operates
on
a
two
or
four
stroke
engine,
because
it
allows
the
equipment
to
be
light
and
portable
while
still
powerful.
S
However,
these
eight
engines
are
so
fuel
inefficient,
that
operating
a
commercial
gas
powered
leaf
blower
for
one
hour
can
emit
as
much
nitrogen
oxide
and
reactive
organic
gas
emissions
as
driving
over
1700
kilometers
in
a
new
passenger
vehicle
beside
the
unnecessary
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
This
contributes
significantly
to
ambient
air
quality
and
the
formation
of
particulate
matter
which
have
direct
negative
health
impacts.
S
A
typical
two-stroke
leaf
blower
also
operates
well
above
the
decibel
levels
that
our
bylaw
stipulates
for
equipment
such
as
air
conditioners,
exhaust
systems
or
pool
filtration
pumps
at
a
level.
World
health
organization
has
determined
to
be
negatively
impacting
our
health.
It
therefore
makes
sense
for
the
city
to
adopt
zero
emission
equivalents
to
small
off-road
engine
equipment
utilized
to
maintain
green
space.
This
initiative
would
reduce
the
air
and
noise
pollution
generated
by
two-stroke
gas
powered,
lawn
and
yard
equipment
currently
in
use
such
as
leaf
blowers.
S
The
phase
out
would
begin
with
a
pilot,
so
I
think
staff
did
emphasize
that
we
want
to
look
at
the
equipment
first
and
then
make
decisions
based
on
data.
Considering
the
fact
that
this
council
declared
a
climate
emergency,
we
should
not
be
using
gas-powered
equipment
in
public
parks,
near
schools
or
near
community
centers,
where
our
green
spaces
are
often
found.
The
battery
technology
required
for
commercial
grade
zero
emission
equipment
is
rapidly
becoming
available,
and
users
such
as
the
national
capital
commission,
have
already
indicated
their
intention
to
transition
to
zero
emission
equipment.
S
R
Thank
you
mayor
just
briefly.
First,
I
just
want
to
thank
councillor
king
for
his
efforts
to
first
bring
this
forward
at
committee
and
now
at
council
today.
I
think
it's
very
important
and
I'm
pleased
that
this
is
before
us,
and
I
think
there
are
a
number
of
questions
that
have
been
asked
this
morning
that
help
us
understand
this
better.
R
As
far
as
the
pilot
and
what
staff's
intentions
are,
the
number
one
complaint
in
my
ward
with
respect
to
this
type
of
equipment
acknowledging
their
their
environmental
concerns,
is
actually
noise
and
the
disturbances
that
these
tools
or
equipment
causes
within
residential
communities.
So
my
question
to
staff
is
when
they
report
back
to
council
on
on
the
success
or
effectiveness
of
the
pilot,
will
you
also
mention
noise
reductions
that
the
equipment
that
you're
going
to
use
have
in
those
in
in
residential
areas
or
parks.
H
Yes,
mr
mayor,
when
we
report
back
when
we
talk
about
environmental
implications,
environmental
noises
is
also
one.
So
not
only
are
we
looking
at
emissions,
we're
also
looking
at
noise
factor
and
making
sure
that
whatever
equipment
we're
going
to
be
using
is
addressing
both
the
the
air
quality
component,
but
also
at
the
noise
aspect.
Excellent.
C
B
B
Okay,
thank
you
very
much,
so
I'm
my
question
has
to
do
with
the
15
million
dollars
that
we're
going
to
be
putting
back
in
the
transit
reserves.
I'm
just
wondering
if
there's
any
consideration
given.
I
don't
know
if
this
question
should
go
to
miss
ammacar,
but
if
there's
any
consideration
given
to
instead
using
the
funds
to
defer
the
pending
fair
increase
in
the
city
of
ottawa,.
M
M
M
That
has
to
do
with
how
much
funding
we're
going
to
receive
from
other
levels
of
government
to
cover
our
gap.
We
also
have
the
expense
of
the
inquiry.
That's
happening
that
will
be
covered
from
that
reserve
account,
and
our
recommendation
is
that
the
funds
flow
there
to
provide
that
financial
mitigation
for
impacts
that
will
flow
through
to
the
city
at
the
end
of
the
year
for
2022.
B
Well,
thank
you
I
I
do.
I
do
understand
that,
but
we
always
have
you
know
we
always
have
these
issues
when
it
comes
to
transit,
there's
always
unforeseen
and
unknowns.
When
it
comes
to
the
funding
you
know,
given
that
our
ridership
continues
to
be
low,
the
you
know,
the
federal
government
is
committed
now
to
hybrid
working,
so
we're
not
gonna
see
as
much
transit
going
downtown
and
the
price
of
gasoline
a
lot
of
people
would,
you
know,
might
consider
a
transit
pass
at
this
point.
B
You
know
so
that
they
don't
have
to
fill
up
their
tanks
at
a
dollar
65
a
gallon.
I
I'm
wondering
if
you
know
this
money
would
be
better
used
at
this
particular
point
to
keep
the
transit
fares
low,
and
you
know
we're
always
going
to
be
facing
a
shortage
of
funds
when
it
comes
to
transit,
as
we
continue
with
a
bottle
that
clearly
doesn't
work
for
the
city
so
to
offset
a
fair
increase.
I
you
know,
which
I
believe
is
coming
at
absolutely
the
wrong
time.
C
B
Well,
I
mean
yeah,
it's
one-time
dollars,
but
you
know
we
we've
got
to
do
some.
We've
got
to
do
something
and
you
know
we.
We
spent
what
eight
million
dollars
over
christmas
to
provide
free
transit
and
now
we're
raising
fares.
We've
got
to
do
something
a
little
bit
differently.
So
that's.
You
know
why
I'm
consider
asking
for
this
to
be
considered.
R
Thank
you
mayor.
As
of
this
time
yesterday,
I
had
a
motion
teed
up
to
come
to
council
this
morning
with
respect
to
not
counselor
mckinney's
motion,
but
this
greater
motion
and
it
was
about
allocating
additional
monies
for
sidewalk
repair,
and
I
just
want
to
talk
to
this
very
briefly
in
my
word
in
particular,
sidewalks,
some
sidewalks
not
all
are
in
rough
shape
and
in
two,
if
not
three
of
my
six
major
neighborhoods,
the
neighborhoods
themselves
are
60
to
75
years
old,
so
infrastructure
is
certainly
showing
its
age.
R
Many
of
these
sidewalks
are
not
on
the
repair
list,
not
on
the
short-term
or
medium-term
repair
lists
and
as
staff
can
attest
to
I've,
been
working
with
them
for
years
to
get
more
attention,
investment,
not
for
fancy
bells
and
whistles
in
my
award,
but
for
fixing
existing
infrastructure
that
is
posing
a
real
and
present
danger
to
my
residents,
and
I
know
this
is
not
just
to
my
ward.
So
yesterday
I
had
this
motion
teed
up,
but
speaking
with
staff.
The
city
treasurer
the
gm
for
public
works
there.
R
There
is
a
commitment,
this
fiscal
year
to
put
more
money
into
sidewalk
repair,
and
so,
rather
than
put
forward
a
motion
today.
Mr
mayor,
I
just
want
to
give
staff
the
opportunity
to
comment
on
this
particular
item.
What
they're
going
to
do
in
this
respects
and
how
sidewalk
repair
will
be
getting
more
attention
from
this
point
forward.
H
Yes,
mr
mayor,
thank
you
for
the
question
and
thank
you
for
for
raising
this,
and
I
know
that
it's
something
that
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
discuss
with
a
number
of
council
colleagues
in
terms
of
concerns
with
sidewalk
repairs
and
their
awards.
The
the
piece
that
we
we're
looking
at
doing
a
little
differently
this
year
is
from
a
public
works
perspective
where
we
look
after
kind
of
the
minor
maintenance
of
the
sidewalks.
H
Typically,
we
have
a
budget
about
3.5
million
for
various
concrete
repairs
and
what
we've
seen
over
the
past
couple
years,
especially
over
the
last
three
years,
is
we
haven't
been
able
to
fully
spend
those
funds
for
various
reasons.
A
lot
of
it
is
industry,
challenges
we're
still
dealing
with
a
hot
construction
market.
The
way
that
we
procure
the
works,
mainly
through
standing
offers
is,
is
probably
not
the
most
appealing
way
for
a
lot
of
the
contractors
and
probably
not
the
most
effective
way
to
deliver
some
of
the
repairs.
H
So
what
we're
doing
for
this
year
is
we're
actually
working
with
our
finance
colleague
and
also
infrastructure.
Colleagues
is
we're
going
to
be
taking
basically
that
million
or
so
that
we've
been
underspending
put
that
into
a
minor
capital
account
and
we're
going
to
be
working
with
our
infrastructure
services
team
to
be
able
to
deliver
on
that
work.
H
R
And
that's
very
much
appreciated
so
because
of
staff's
commitment
to
this
particular
budget
line.
That's
a
significant
issue
in
my
ward
and
many
other
wards
and
that
there's
another
million
dollars
that's
going
to
be
made
available
to
invest
into
sidewalks,
I'm
not
bringing
forward
a
motion
to
tease
out
some
of
the
operating
surplus,
but
I
just
want
to
say
we
as
a
council,
and
I
acknowledge
that
in
2022
there
was
more
money
put
into
a
number
of
budget
lines.
Roads
and
sidewalks
sidewalks
remain,
and
these
deficiencies
should
not
continue.
R
Q
Thanks,
mr
mayor,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
understanding
all
the
the
money
and
accounting
around
this,
so
the
motion
in
front
of
us
would
put
five
million
dollars
into
a
housing
reserve
so
originally
well
coming
out
of
fedco.
We
were
going
to
be
putting
20
million
into
the
tax
stabilization
reserve.
So
now
would
we
we
would
be
putting
15
million
into
the
tax
stabilization
reserve.
Is
that
correct.
Q
M
Q
M
Q
M
That's
a
good
question:
we
actually
an
independent
consultant
to
do
a
review
on
reserves.
They
did
a
benchmarking
practices,
benchmarking
practice
exercise
across
canada
to
determine
sort
of
what
is
that
kind
of
safety
blanket
that
you
require
to
be
able
to
respond
to
unforeseen
events
when
they
brought
the
report
forward,
they
set
those
standards
for
various
reserves
across
the
city,
specifically
for
the
tax
stabilization
reserve.
They
said
a
minimum
amount
and
a
maximum
amount
that
minimum
amount,
I
believe,
is
31.5
and
our
maximum
amount
is
51.5.
Q
Okay,
thank
you
yeah.
I
I
don't
disagree
at
all
with
the
motion.
That's
in
front
of
us.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
understand
the
implications
for
the
tax
stabilization
reserve,
one
one
final
question
over
the
past
few
years.
What
are
some
typical
reasons
that
we
have
dipped
into
that
tax
stabilization
reserve.
I
know
we've
had
a
lot
of
motions
or
proposals
of
what
we
could
use
that
for,
but
what
are
some
typical
things
that
council
has
done
recently
with
that
particular
reserve.
M
M
The
other
reason
for
leveraging
the
surp
or
the
tax
stabilization
reserve
is
for
one-time
events
where
we
don't
have
to
build
a
base
budget.
For
that,
specifically,
we
did
leverage
it
in
last
year
and
the
year
before,
when
we
were
funding
our
long-range
housing
plan
to
make
that
investment
in
housing,
and
we
will
do
that
until
we
increase
our
base
over
time.
So,
typically,
the
items
are
small
in
nature.
D
Thank
you
very
much.
I
just
wanted
to
state
that
I
agree
with
councillor
rockington
on
the
comments
about
sidewalks
and
appreciate
the
effort
that
was
made
on
this.
This
is
very
important
for
inner
urban
areas
with
the
older
infrastructure
and,
in
my
word,
I've
got
messages
from
seniors
who
are
tripping
and
falling
this
spring
over
the
the
fact
that
the
sidewalks
have
deteriorated
over
the
winter.
That
can
be
expected.
D
C
S
Thank
you.
Your
worship
in
terms
of
this
application
I'll
be
supporting
the
memorandum
of
understanding
that,
through
continuous
dialogue
between
the
developer
and
the
community,
will
create
a
community
benefits
agreement.
The
community
benefits
agreement
is
a
legally
enforced
arrangement
concerning
development
projects
which
seek
specific
social
value
outcomes
to
ensure
that
projects
enhance
social,
cultural,
environmental
and
economic
opportunities
for
a
community.
S
S
S
I
With
the
city
and
with
the
local
councillor,
a
lot
of
work
is,
as
is
being
done,
and
I
I
have
a
couple
of
reflection.
Obviously
there
there
continues
to
be
concern
around
heights
and
density,
and
I
think
we
have
to
recognize
that
that
that
remains
a
a
challenge
for
the
local
council
and
and
for
the
community,
but
I
I
think,
as
a
council,
we
have
to
take
a
deeper
look
at
this
and
really
there's
a
unique
opportunity.
We
have
a
long-standing
landlord
of
rental
housing.
Many
are
family
units.
I
We
have
a
situation
where
we're
not
faced
with
risk
of
renovictions
there's,
actually,
agreements
that
are
in
place
and
really
want
to
thank
our
colleague
and
the
community
to
working
with
the
applicant
to
to
get
there
and
there's
a
unique
opportunity
here
to
see
a
long-standing
landlord
continuing
to
invest
or
renewing
the
investment
in
rental
housing
stock
within
mana
park.
So
I
I'm
well
aware
of
the
concerns
of
the
heights
and
density
and
and
support
our
the
community
and
and
councillor
king's
concern.
I
I
think
this
plan
is
long-standing
will
take
decades
to
develop,
so
I
think
they're.
The
conversations
will
continue,
but
I
want
to
applaud.
I
think
this
is
a
unique
example
of
how
it
can
be
well
done
without
the
the
pressure
of
coming
to
committee,
without
the
proper
local
engagement
so
really
want
to
commend
staff
really
want
to
commend
councillor
king
as
well
as
mata
park,
community
and
the
applicant,
the
agarwal
family.
I
Here
in
this
case,
so
I
will
be
supporting
the
report
and
again,
I
think
many
conversations
will
will
need
to
to
continue
before
there's
a
first,
a
first
shovel
here,
but
what
we've
been
able?
What
we're
able
to
do
in
this
case
is
have
the
right
kind
of
path
towards
that
redevelopment
and
assure
current
residents
that
they
won't
be
losing
their
homes
in
mana,
perk.
C
C
C
N
Thanks
very
much
mayor
and
thanks
to
councillor
tierney
for
for
working
on
this
and
seconding
the
motion.
We
had
a
good
dialogue
at
transit
commission
the
other
day.
So
just
read.
The
motion
be
resolved
that,
in
recognition
of
the
effect
that
increased
transit
use
could
have
on
reducing
auto
traffic
and
positive
outcomes
for
the
city's
transportation
network,
tourism
and
economic
growth
staff
be
directed
to
scope,
a
study,
a
to
evaluate
the
potential
benefits
and
costs
of
removing
the
need
for
some
or
all
residents.
N
Indeed,
to
provide
information
on
recently
announced
new
and
potential
future
federal
support
for
transit
operations
and
e,
to
suggest
criteria
for
council
to
consider
when
evaluating
the
results
of
the
study
and
be
it
further
resolve
that
staff
aim
to
provide
the
scoping
to
the
transit
commission
in
q4
2022
and
that
work
begin
following
adoption
of
the
long-range
financial
plan
for
transit
and
be
informed
by
that
plan,
I
think
it's
it's
important.
I
think
folks
read
the
recent
kelly
eagan
article.
N
I
think
he's
come
around
to
understanding
the
the
need
to
study
this
issue,
which
is
what
this
is
asking
us
to
do.
Is
we've
been
implementing
this
in
various
ways
amer,
and
we
should
study
it
so
that
we
find
out.
You
know
the
best
way
to
utilize
this
as
a
policy
tool.
I
appreciate
counselors
support
today
on
this.
J
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
I'd
like
to
introduce
a
motion
as
well
for
this
I'm
going
to
read
it
there's
a
fair
bit
to
it,
but
what
it
is
is
I'm
going
to
try
to
spell
out
the
things
that
staff
will
have
to
look
at
in
order
to
do
a
proper
study
for
this
issue.
So,
whereas
the
transit
commission
has
referred
to
council
motion
originally
moved
by
council
monarch
transportation
committee
at
its
december
1st
2021
meeting,
which
reads
as
follows.
J
That
this
study
considered
the
implications
of
those
options
on
tourism,
equity
service
levels
and
the
long-range
financial
plan.
Inclusion
of
potential
future
federal
support
for
trans
transit
operations
and
whereas
council
in
its
next
term,
may
wish
to
consider
its
policy
strategies
for
how
best
to
plan
fund
and
improve
and
operate
the
city's
transit
system
and
whereas
many
aspects
of
the
transit
service
policy,
service
delivery
and
how
those
services
are
financed
may
entail
trade-offs
that
require
careful
consideration.
J
Whereas
council
acknowledges
that
there
will
be
a
cost
to
engage
specialist
consultants
to
develop
the
outline
and
estimate
the
and
the
estimate
described
below
and
that
the
funding
the
cost
will
reduce
the
amounts
available
to
complete
other
approved
capital
projects.
Therefore,
be
it
result
that
staff
be
directed
to
prepare
an
outline
of
a
possible
study
on
these
matters
to
include
the
following
points,
plus
any
associated
analysis
such
as
number
one
potential
benefits
of
removing
the
need
for
transit
customers
to
pay
fare.
J
Under
that
I
have
reduced
barriers
to
mobility,
increase
participation
in
the
labor
force
and
city
activities.
Increased
transit,
ridership,
reduced,
auto
travel,
reduce
cost
of
fare
collection
number
two.
The
potential
costs
resulting
from
the
removal
of
fares
lost,
fair
revenue,
short
term
postpone,
pandemic
and
long
term,
with
normal
growth
rates,
additional
transit
capacity
required
for
the
short
term
and
the
long
term,
capital
and
operating
costs,
including
additional
buses
and
trains,
and
additional
maintenance
facilities
and
any
other
associated
capital
and
operating
costs.
J
Number
three
identification
and
comparison
with
the
other
potential
ways
that
council
could
invest
the
same
amount
such
as
fair
reductions,
targeted
to
particular
customer
groups.
Increased
investments
in
transit
service
levels,
increased
frequency
on
more
routes,
capital
and
operating
costs,
including
additional
buses
and
trains,
and
additional
maintenance
facilities.
J
Number
four
potential:
city-wide
benefits
economic
benefits
of
increased
mobility
and
increased
participation
in
the
labor
force
and
city
activities;
number
five
potential,
city-wide
drawbacks,
economic
effects
of
increased
property
taxes
and
the
equity
implications
of
increased
property
taxes.
Number
six
comparators
from
across
canada
and
around
the
world
number
seven
potential.
J
Potential
availability
of
funding
from
senior
levels
of
government
number
eight
suggest
a
criteria
for
council
to
consider
in
evaluating
the
results
of
this
study
and
be
a
further
result
that
staff
prepare
an
estimate
of
the
time
and
cost
to
conduct
a
study
of
these
matters
with
sufficient
detail.
That
council
can
use
it
to
make
policy
decisions.
J
C
M
Oh,
thank
you
very
much,
mr
mayor,
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
this
staff
are
certainly
supportive
of
the
replacement,
no
motion
and
the
reporting
through
to
fedco.
It
makes
sense
in
terms
of
the
work
that
we
are
doing
on
the
transit
lrp,
which
directly
relates
to
transit
funding,
and
this
work
in
terms
of
the
scoping
exercise
can
be
carried
out
at
the
same
time.
N
Yeah
just
first
time,
I'm
seeing
this-
I
imagine
other
colleagues,
first
time
they're,
seeing
it
the
the
the
supposed
replacement
motion
references,
an
old
motion.
It's
been
updated.
It
was
in
the
procedure
memo
yesterday
and
includes
that
the
scoping
of
would
come
inclusive
of
the
long
range
financial
plan
for
transit
and
be
informed
by
that
plan.
So
I'm
just
wondering
in
terms
of
a
replacement,
it
doesn't
seem.
It
seems
like
there's
some
complimentary
things
happening
here.
N
I'd
love
to
see
some
of
these
aspects
studied,
but
the
the
key
difference
here
is
that
this
belongs
at
transit.
Commission
transit
commission
has
to
have
it
informed
by
a
long-range
financial
plan,
but
it
doesn't
belong
at
it
just
in
a
financial
decision.
There's
policy
decisions
associated
with
this
as
well,
and
so
I
just
I'm
trying
to
understand
what
the
motion
is
trying
to
accomplish
in
that
way
and
and
why
that
might
be.
N
This
new
motion
that
I
put
up
here
includes
the
long-range
financial
plan
and
also
some
some
other
roads
that
have
been
identified
as
key,
east-west
and
north-south
routes.
That
could
benefit,
as
we've
been
seeing
in
areas
like
buffalo
calgary
boston.
Many
other
places,
so
I
just
I
want
to
make
sure
we're
capturing
the
original
motion
I
had
put
on
the
floor
here
and
and
gave
everybody
quite
a
bit
of
notice.
The
last
time
we
talked
about
this
was
december:
2021
transportation,
committee,
transit,
commission
and
now
we've
been
referred
to
to
council
here.
N
So
I
guess
mayor,
you
know
in
the
spirit
of
trying
to
be
collegial
and
have
collegiality.
I
guess
I
would
just
ask
that
you
know
we
can
pass
both
motions,
I'm
fine
with
that.
Some
of
my
colleagues
may
want
to
refer
the
one
we've
just
seen,
but
I
think
we
can
probably
pass
both
motions
here,
but
this
needs
to
go
back
to
the
transit
commission
as
well.
It
can't
just
go
to
fedco.
There's,
there's
there's
a
lot
of
policy
implications
here.
N
Transit
commission
is
set
up
for
a
reason,
so
I
just
want
to
know
the
difference
between
the
two
and
whether
this
will
go
to
transit
commissioner
or
not
in
terms
of
the
way
you're
you're
looking
at
it
as
a
replacement
and
if
you'd
reconsider
that
decision
as
a
replacement
to
just
pass
both
motions
and
and
make
sure
this
ends
up
at
transit.
Commission
thanks.
C
J
The
ideal
solution
that
I'm
proposing
this
motion
is
that
we
deal
with
it
at
the
same
time
that
we
get
the
long-range
financial
plan
back,
mr
mayor,
so
that
it's
all
done
in
one
meeting
hopefully,
and
that
we
have
a
way
to
go
forward
here.
I've
added
some
detail
into
it,
but,
as
councilman
meredith
said,
it's
mostly
very
complementary
to
his
motion.
It's
just
to
try
to
get
a
good
scope
of
what
the
study
would
look
like,
and
so
we
can
figure
out
a
real
cause.
N
To
it,
in
that
case,
mayor,
if
I
can
just
on
the
motion,
can
I
just
propose
a
friendly
amendment
that
to
the
referred
motion
that
this
also
go
to
transit
commission
for
the
policy
considerations
in
here?
If
we
did
that,
I
think
I
could
support
the
replacement
as
long
as
it
goes
to
transit
commission
as
well,
I'm
trying
to
be
collegial
here.
I
hope
we
can
all
do
that.
More
often.
J
R
R
I
want
to
suggest
one
thing,
and
that
is,
I
think,
that
the
transit
commission
should
meet
in
advance
of
fedco
to
seek
their
input
and
feedback
on
the
staff
report
and
recommendations,
and
if
the
ultimate
decision
is
going
to
be
left
to
fedco,
they
should
consult,
or
at
least
the
transit
commission
should
have
been
consulted
in
advance.
Not
simply
here's
an
information
report,
fyi
we've
already
made
the
decision.
R
The
transit
commission
should
be
consulted
feedback
garnered
and
provided
to
feed
into
the
discussion
and
decision
makings
that
are
going
to
happen
at
fedco.
So
to
the
chair
of
the
transit
commission,
I
would
ask
you
to
kindly
consider
calling
a
special
transit
commission
meeting
to
receive
the
staff
report
and
set
of
recommendations
before
the
fedco
meeting,
because
I
think
that
input
is
is
very,
very
much
needed.
My
question
to
staff
is
just
to
clarify
what
exactly
is
going
to
come
to
fedco
in
june
for
action
versus
information,
so
you've
got
the
the
revised.
R
R
O
O
R
So
I
highly
suggest
and
request
that
the
transit
commission
be
called
in
a
special
meeting
before
fedco
meets
to
have
that
discussion
to
compile
that
feedback
and
input
to
inform
fedco
when
they
meet
on
this
matter
and
so
mayor.
I
would
like
council
to
make
that
decision
today.
I
would
like
to
move
a
motion.
C
R
C
J
J
Various
versions
of
that
motion
and
and
what
I
attempted
to
do
with
this
one,
was
to
add
more
clarity
to
it,
so
that
we
get
a
really
good
answer
from
staff
as
to
what
the
study
is
going
to
look
like
what
we
can
expect
to
get
out
of
it.
So
if,
if
what
the
counselor
is
worried
about
is
a
canvas
of
the
committee
to
see
what
the
committee
members
would
want
to
add
to
this,
I
have
no
problem
with
that.
J
J
You
know
that's
a
discussion
that
these
this
study
will
contribute
to,
but
I
don't
think
we
can
have
it
without
the
report,
and
I
don't
think
the
report
really
helps
us
unless
we
have
the
long-range
financial
report
as
well,
so
that
that's
why
I'm
hoping
to
see
both
done
at
the
same
time
and
since
council's
already
approved
it
going
to
fedco.
That's
why
this
motion
suggests
that
staff
feedback
that
answered
on
the
the
cost
of
the
study
and
so
on
to
that
same
meeting.
R
I
just
want
to
to
clarify:
I
do
have
an
intended
motion
on
the
floor.
We
can
get
some
wording,
but
I'm
not
attempting
to
change
the
course
of
action
of
anything
happening
at
fedco.
I'm
trying
to
establish
a
meeting
of
the
transit
commission,
a
special
meeting
of
the
transit
commission
before
that
fedco
meeting.
So
the
transit
commission
can
provide
input
for
consideration
at
the
fedco
meeting
as.
R
Our
mayor,
I'm
putting
a
motion
on
the
floor
today.
We've
we've
attempted
this
in
the
past,
where
members
of
the
transit
commission
have
attempted
when
the
lrt
was
not
functioning
for
a
special
meeting.
The
chair
shot
that
down
we've
attempted
other
special
meetings
in
the
past,
we've
gone
four
months
in
2020
and
in
2022
without
a
transit
commission
meeting.
This
is
a
critical
subject
matter.
I'm
putting
the
motion
on
the
floor
today
if
council
on
a
point
of
order.
J
J
C
Q
Thanks,
mr
mayor,
first
of
all,
I
think
it's
a
very
good
motion
that
counselor
huble
is
introduced.
I
think
it.
It
addresses
a
lot
of
the
concerns
that
I've
had
around
the
debate:
around
free
transit
in
particular
item
number:
three,
the
identification
and
comparison
of
other
potential
ways
that
council
can
invest
money
to
improve
our
transit
system
or
improve
ridership.
I
think
that's
really
important.
Over
the
past
three
or
four
years,
it's
almost
like
we're
throwing
spaghetti
at
the
wall
on
ways
that
we
think
might
improve.
Q
Transit
we've
done
that
through
some
fair
reductions
and
free
fairs,
we've
had
free
fair
months.
We've
had
changes
for
seniors
changes
for
kids,
we're
kind
of
all
over
the
place,
and
we
rarely
have
a
clear
goal
or
a
way
to
measure
these
pilots
for
these
experiments.
So
I
have.
I
have
no
disagreement
whatsoever
that
we
need
to
have
a
very
comprehensive
study.
That's
going
to
take
a
while
it's
going
to
take
you
to
the
next
term
of
council.
Q
Q
I
think
we
even
talked
about
it
in
the
budget
process
back
in
december.
It's
always
been
about
this
long-range
financial
plan
without
understanding
the
parameters
of
long-range
financial
plan,
it's
really
impossible
to
scope
out
any
kind
of
any
kind
of
measures
or
any
kind
of
framework,
for
what
this
final
report
would
come
up
with
we'd
again
just
be
throwing
spaghetti
at
the
wall
and
making
things
up.
Q
I
agree
that
every
member
of
council
and
a
lot
of
people
in
the
public
have
some
ideas
and
opinions,
but
we
really
need
to
have
that
long-range
financial
plan
piece
to
help,
give
us
that
anchor
and
give
us
realistic
parameters
in
which
we
can
have
this
discussion
and
start
scoping
out
what
we
want
to
send
staff
or
a
consultant
out
on
with
the
report.
So
I
guess
we're
arguing
about
process
now,
but
I'll.
Listen
to
what
my
colleagues
have
to
say,
and
hopefully
we
can
come
up
in
the
end
with
a
constructive
solution.
Thanks
mayor.
E
M
Thanks
for
the
question,
counselor
there's
a
number
of
considerations
that
we
have
to
look
at
when
we're
doing
the
long-range
financial
plan.
That
is
one
of
them.
We
will
be
looking
at
the
impact
of
property
taxes,
the
fair
revenues
that
are
coming
in,
but
the
other
layer
that
we
have
to
put
on
this
is
really
what
that
forecast
of
ridership
is
going
to
look
like
over
the
long
term
and
that's
the
big
piece
in
terms
of
overall
affordability.
E
M
M
But
what
we
will
do
is
we
will
look
at
how
how
potentially
I'm
going
to
say,
permutations
combinations
and
scenarios
in
terms
of
what
that's
going
to
look
like
now
on
the
basis
of
the
work
that
we're
doing,
because
ridership
is
going
to
inform
the
affordability
of
transit
as
well.
As
you
know,
additional
costs.
If
we
look
at
stage
3
and
other
things,
so
we're
layering
all
of
those
pieces
in
to
give
you
a
picture.
M
E
Okay
and
that's
encouraging,
because
for
those
of
us
who
have
sought
lower
transit
fees
through
the
course
of
the
past
several
years,
when
we've,
when
we've
sought
those
lower
transit
fares,
oftentimes,
we
are
confronted
with
well.
No,
the
lrfp
has
prescribed
a
ratio
and
we're
going
to
adhere
to
that
ratio,
and
I'm
taking
what
you're
saying
as
understanding
through
the
subsequent
term
of
counsel
that
the
ratio
may
be
changeable
from
year
to
year
that
the
lrfp
isn't
going
to
lock
it
in.
M
We're
going
to
look
at,
as
I
said,
those
scenarios
in
terms
of
what
they
look
like.
We
will
apply
the
fiscal
framework
that
we
have
today.
We
know
we
have
a
ratio,
a
fair
box
to
tax
ratio
in
that
today,
we'll
put
those
sort
of
scenarios
in
front
of
you
and,
as
I
said
earlier,
if
there's
a
recommendation
in
terms
of
changing
that
that
will
come
forward
through
the
budget
process
through
the
next
term
of
council.
M
E
E
So
we
know
in
the
in
the
initial
weeks
of
the
the
new
term
of
council
that
that
overall
term
of
council
budget
direction
is
frequently
set
and
if
it
were
put
on
the
table
within
a
month
or
so
of
the
new
election
or
the
new
council
taking
office,
that
that
new
council
would
like
to
ensure
that
the
ratio
is
considered
to
be
flexible
on
a
year-to-year
basis.
An
emotion
was
brought
forward
to
that
effect.
M
At
this
point
counselor,
I
think
it's
very
difficult
to
answer
that
question.
I
am
perfectly
honest
with
you.
First
of
all,
we
need
to
finish
the
work
that
we're
doing
on
the
long-range
financial
plan
and
look
at
that
overall
affordability
and
then
look
at
those
scenarios
to
actually
bring
a
recommendation
forward.
So
I
I
think
it's
difficult
to
answer
your
question.
M
Concretely,
what
you
will
see
and
my
my
colleague
mr
o'connor,
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
here
we
will
be
updating
the
terms
of
reference
to
the
governance
document
that
will
speak
to
setting
that
ratio.
It's
not
going
to
set
the
specific
ratio,
but
it
says
we
will
set
it
for
the
term
of
council
governance.
We
had
talked
about
that
piece
of
it
and
then
we
will
bring
back
our
recommendations
in
the
budget
process.
E
C
C
You
know
on
on
a
side
of
whether
it's
you
know
no
charge
or
a
different
version,
but
people
have
to
know
just
because
you
know,
council
makes
the
decision
that
they're
not
going
to
charge
fares.
The
money
has
to
come
from
somewhere
and
the
only
alternative
we
have
is
property
taxes.
So
I
think
that's
an
important
debate
to
have
and
I
look
forward
on
the
sidelines
watching
where
everyone
stands
on
that
issue
and
I'm
sure
they'll
be
very,
very
clear.
L
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
just
have
a
couple
of
questions
on
this
motion,
so
this
motion
lists
a
number
of
things
that
staff
will
do
to
give
us
the
right
information
that
we
need
or
a
new
term
a
council.
So
my
question
is
to
staff.
Is
everything
you
think
we
would
need
in
this
motion?
Because
the
comment
is
well?
Should
we
go
to
transit
commission
and
ask
them
what
they
think?
I
would
only
ask
them.
Is
there
anything
else
in
this
motion?
L
That's
missing
because
the
next
term
of
council
doesn't
want
to
found,
get
the
results
and
say:
oh
well,
we
didn't
ask
this
or
we
didn't
have
this
information.
So
the
question
is:
is
everything
in
this
motion
that
needs
to
be
in
this
motion
so
that
a
next
term
a
council
could
say,
hey?
I
think
it's
a
great
idea
to
have
free,
transit
or
hey.
I
think
we
could
have
transit
at
a
dollar
per
ride
or
something
more
specific,
but
is
everything
in
this
motion
that
we
need
is?
O
Mr
mayor,
the
the
motion
lists
a
number
of
things,
but
it
also
says
or
other
associated
matters.
So
our
reading
of
this
motion
is
that,
if
we
identify
other
things
that
ought
to
be
included
during
this
scoping
exercise,
we
would
bring
that
recommendation
back
when
we
bring
these.
This
outline
and
estimate
back.
L
L
You
know
that
that's
the
question
I
would
ask
if
they
go
if
it
goes
to
them
for
information,
can
they
actually
add
more
or
suggest
more
or
is
the
right
venue
a
special
meeting,
but
I
I
do
want
to
be
sure
that
everything
in
this
motion
that
needs
to
be
in
this
motion
is
in
this
motion
so
that
we
can
make
an
informed
decision.
Thank
you.
N
It
also
does
speak
to
the
fact
that
there's
other
funding
that
it
is
not
just
a
property
tax
question.
The
federal
government
has
started
funding
transit
operationally
for
the
first
time
in
its
history.
There
are
savings
to
be
achieved.
It's
not
just
a
property
tax
question.
There's
a
much
greater
conversation
about
this.
To
do
this
for
significant
benefit
for
our
city
economically,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
is
actually
in
the
the
main
motion,
because
it
should
be.
N
That's
that's
the
motion
I
put
forward
so
if,
if
we
can
do
that,
that
would
be
helpful
procedurally,
because
this
is
the
motion
that
I've
put
forward
today.
Seconded
by
casualty,
which
I
will
add
that
staff
supported,
I
worked
with
staff
on
this
motion.
It
was
supported
by
oc
transpo,
supported
by
our
staff
on
my
original
motion.
So
can
we
get
that
supported
staff
motion
into
the
replacement
motion?
Here's
the
question.
N
M
My
understanding,
mr
mayor,
the
announcement
that
was
made,
the
750
million-
is
the
ongoing
commitment
to
help
us
through
kovid.
That's
the
the
funding
that
we've
received
over
the
last
two
years.
I'm
not
aware
of
permanent
funding.
The
only
permanent
funding
we
have
heard
the
federal
government
speak
about
is
what's
coming
in
2026,
but
no
details
on
that.
C
C
We'll
just
take
the
same
wording,
because
council
monarch's
motion
has
changed
a
couple
of
times,
we'll
take
it
and
put
it
in
the
first,
be
it
resolve
that
to
replace
what
you
have
in
yours
just
to
reflect
that
councilor
monarch
updated
his
agreed
agreed:
okay,
okay,
thank
you!
Le
prochaine
sailor
conciero
fleury,
councillor
fleury,
you
have
the
floor.
I
How
do
you
see
all
of
that
review
taking
place
because
each
each
movement
has
consequences
and
has
opportunities?
So
I'd
like
to
understand
with
the
motions
and
the
way
you
understand
the
motions
that
are
presenting
presented
in
front
of
you?
What
what
moves
first,
like
I
know
for
you,
it's
preparation
next
year
for
what
happens
operationally.
M
M
It
makes
sense
to
do
that
because,
as
I
said,
there's
a
number
of
items
that
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
as
we're
pulling
together
the
lrfp
we
have
to
look
at
our
ridership.
We
have
to
look
at
our
sources
of
revenues.
We
have
to
look
at.
You
know
potential
increased
expenses
and
things
like
that,
as
we
put
those
pieces
together,
the
other
pieces
that
are
really
separate-
and
aside
from
this,
is
what's
going
to
happen
through
the
2023
budget
cycle
and
that
will
come
as
we
table
our
budget
directions.
M
I
There's
the
the
estimated
shortfall
operation
operating
shortfalls
that
we
have
due
to
lower
ridership,
which
I
think
so
far
the
the
governments
are
are
covering
the
senior
levels
of
government
are
covering,
but
then
there's
also
the
the
latest
news,
the
20
24
hours
ago,
saying:
hey
we're
we're
going
to
do
hybrid
workforce
permanently
and
what
that
means
in
terms
of
the
way
we
set
up
our
system.
So
could
you
enlighten
me
if
the
motions
that
are
in
front
of
us
allow
us
to
better
understand
that
that
lost
or
that
con?
M
The
ridership
will
form
that
that
view
through
to
next
year
and
over
the
next
10
years
as
we
put
that
long-range
financial
plan
together
to
your
point.
Yes,
an
announcement
was
made
by
the
federal
government
around
what
you
know.
They're
going
to
introduce
hybrid
work,
to
be
very
honest
with
you
counselor,
we
know
they're
going
to
have
hybrid
work,
but
we
don't
know
exactly
what
that's
going
to
look
like.
M
We
don't
know
if
that's
going
to
be
two
days
a
week
three
days
a
week,
how
that's
going
to
be
rolled
out
across
the
board
across
departments.
What
we
have
heard
is
each
department
will
react
and
build
their
own
plan
on
their
own.
So
it's
really,
you
know
getting
an
understanding
of
what
that's
going
to
look
like
and
that's
going
to
inform
us
over
the
long
term,
but
the
ridership
piece
is
key
in
terms
of
us
building
out
what
the
affordability
plan
looks
like
over
10
years.
I
So
so,
as
we
approached
in
as
we
approach
a
municipal
and
a
provincial
election
as
we've
seen
the
struggles
of
communicating
with
our
federal
and
provincial
governments
during
the
occupation
of
who
leads,
what
do
we
ask?
Who
do
we
ask
all
that
stuff
it
got?
It
got
very
complicated.
Very
quickly.
Can
you
express
to
council
what
would
be
the
best
way
at
this
point?
M
There's
two
motions
that
have
been
passed
by
council
that
speaks
to
that.
One
was
council
brockington's
motion
today
that
speaks
to
the
shortfall
as
a
result
of
the
change
in
that
workforce
from
the
federal
government
and
a
request
to
communicate
with
them
and
write
a
letter
to
them
and
the
second
one
comes
through.
M
I
believe
it
was
councillor
mckinney's
motion
at
budget
time
where
she
looked
at
what
the
impact
would
be
or
how
the
federal
government
could
assist
municipalities
in
terms
of
getting
closer
to
lowering
that
fare
box
revenue
for
our
users.
So
there's
there's
two
mechanisms
that
are
have
already
been
leveraged
and
in
play
to
address
your
question.
I
Okay-
mr
maybe
a
question
to
you,
I
mean
we're
fcm
and
amo
are
certainly
strong
and
important
organizations
on
behalf
of
municipalities.
I
don't
deny
that,
but
I
think
we
have
a
unique
set
of
circumstances
here
in
the
capital
city
and
and
and
wondering
your
perspective
on
how
these
motions
and
the
reviews
that
are
underway
can
signify
very
clearly
our
expectation
as
council
to
the
federal
government
in
terms
of
our
operating
shortfalls,
specifically
on
ridership,
and
how
that
might
influence
our
abilities
going
forward.
C
C
So
my
hope
is
that
we,
you
know,
receive
a
positive
welcome,
but
we
know
both
other
orders
of
government
are
in
difficult
financial
circumstances
themselves.
So
my
certainly
if
this
passes
this
will
be
one
more
tool
in
our
toolkit
to
go
and
convince
them
that
we're
serious
about
trying
to
improve
the
transit
system
here
and
not
just
improve
it
but
grow
it.
We
want.
You
know
we
want
a
commitment,
a
firm
commitment
on
phase
three.
We
got
it
from
the
prime
minister
during
the
last
election.
C
I
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
certainly
agree
with
you
on
the
capitol
front.
I
wonder
if,
on
the
operational
shortfalls
due
to
lower
ridership,
if
we
could
ask
for
for
something
a
little
more
specific,
because
the
I
we
all
remember
the
eco
pass
that
the
federal
employees
used
to
have
the
monday
to
friday
commuting.
I
mean
our
system
is
built
on
around
them
and
then
they're
not
coming
back
full-time,
so
maybe
you
and
I
could
take
it
offline.
I
appreciate
your
interest.
A
G
A
Thank
you.
Well,
I
support
the
motion
from
councillor.
Brockington
transit,
I
think,
is
one
of
the
most
important
issues
facing
us
today
and
certainly
for
many
many
years
to
come.
Our
councils
over
many
years
have
made
a
decision
that
we
want
to
drive
people
to
riding
public
transit
out
of
their
cars
because
of
the
climate
emergency
because
of
you
know,
smart
growth
principles
for
many
many
reasons.
A
Investing
in
public
transit
has
been
an
important
consideration
for
this
city
and
we
have
had
some
bad
luck,
as
have
every
other
municipality,
probably
around
the
world,
in
terms
of
transit,
ridership
and
the
pandemic
and
the
impacts.
The
city
of
ottawa
has
been
particularly
hard
hit
through
the
pandemic
because
of
the
nature
of
our
employment,
largely
federal
government,
employment,
largely
people
going
downtown
to
work,
and
we
built
a
transit
system
based
on
that
model.
A
The
question
is:
what
do
we
do
about
it
and
what
I
take
from
the
motion
that
counselor
hubley
put
on
the
floor
today,
is
that
it's
being
looked
at
primarily
or
solely
through
a
financial
lens
and,
of
course,
in
a
financial
lens,
is
a
very
important
lens,
because
affordability
for
all
all
the
taxpayers
in
ottawa
is
a
huge
consideration.
But
it's
not
the
only
consideration.
We
also
have
policy
considerations
and
what
makes
the
best
sense
for
our
city
in
the
long
term
and
that's
why.
A
I
think
what
council
brockington
is
asking
for
today
is
essential.
We
need
to
allow
the
policy
piece,
the
the
transit
commission,
who
consider
policy
who
hear
from
the
public
from
a
policy
perspective
to
do
their
work
and
to
hear
from
the
public
at
that
transit
commission
about
their
views
on
what
we
should
be
considering
and
what
you
know
the
price
elasticity
is
what
the
you
know,
what
would
drive
people
to
public
transit?
A
What
are
the
other
considerations
beyond
finances
that
would
make
a
difference
to
people
that
would
have
them
choose
transit
and
is
it
you
know
where
we're
going
next?
Is
it
like
what
is
it?
There
are
a
lot
of
considerations
and
I
think
we
need
to
hear
all
pieces
of
the
puzzle.
So
you
know
I
I
agree
with
councillor
menard's
motion,
I'm
okay
with
councillor
hubley's
motion
as
well,
that
you
know.
A
Obviously
there
are
huge
financial
considerations
here
that
need
to
be
taken
into
effect
and
we
need
to
have
an
affordability
framework
that
works.
We
also
are
coming
to
the
end
of
a
term
and
a
new
term,
and
a
new
council
may
have
very
different
ideas,
and
I
think
the
the
view
of
the
public
is
very
much
evolving.
A
So,
with
that
in
mind,
we
have
to
be
open
to
change.
We
have
to
expect
change.
We
have
to
recognize
that
change
is
good
and
that
that,
ultimately,
the
future
of
transit
is
a
huge
huge
deal
for
this
city
and
we
need
to
get
it
right,
and
that
involves
the
public
and
so
having
the
public
be
able
to
weigh
in
from
from
a
policy
perspective
at
the
transit
commission
is
an
important
thing
to
do,
and
so
I
very
much
support
councillor
brockington's
motion
as
well
as
the
other
motions.
Thank
you.
P
Great
thank
you
very
much,
mr
mayor
and,
first
of
all,
it's
great
to
see
that
so
many
items
in
the
menard
motion
that
I
have
seconded
are
captured
within
the
the
new
motion.
Even
with
more
detail,
I
I
do.
I
do
wish
you
luck.
It
seems
like
quite
the
the
challenge
in
a
very
short
one
way,
and
I
guess
one
day
I
had
a
couple
of
quick
questions
and
thank
you
going
back
and
forth
with
you.
P
I
don't
know
where
you
can
buy
a
home
for
that
amount,
and
I
have
a
big
fear
and
I
don't
know
how
we're
going
to
capture
this.
We
have
an
impact
assessment
coming
up.
It's
been
six
years
since
we've
had
an
impact
assessment
and
that's
my
biggest
fear,
there's
going
to
be
desirable
parts
of
the
community
where
we're
going
to
see
those
market
rates
go
up
and
that's
what
we
base
those
taxes
on
are
we
going
to
do?
We
have
any
inkling
of
where
the
province
is
going
on?
P
Obviously,
it's
going
to
be
around
transit
stations,
they're
going
to
be
considered
very
valuable
and,
and
things
go
up,
I
I
don't
know
if
it's
realistic
to
look
at
415
000
as
an
average
home,
are
we
going
to
be
able
to
adjust,
for
that?
Is
it
going
to
be
based
on
regions
within
the
city?
I'm
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
this.
A
little
bit
more.
M
M
M
P
Great-
and
I
truly
appreciate
that
and
understand
that-
and
I
get
the
relatively
you
know
the
looking
at
it
from
a
global
pie
perspective,
but
for
people
that
live
in
communities
where
I
know
I
remember
last
time
in
beacon
hill,
it
went
up
by
26
over
a
four
year
cycle.
There
is
a
lot
of
seniors
that
were
very
concerned
with
that.
So
I
I
like
to
really
paint
an
honest
picture
where
you
know
specifically
about
my
community.
In
my
case,
I
have
to
worry
about
that,
but
it's
always
a
fear.
P
The
other
thing,
too,
is.
I
think
there
was
some
good
good.
I
think
the
mayor
alluded
to
it
recently.
The
treasury
minister
alluded
to
possible
government
buildings
being
converted
to
housing.
Obviously
that
will
have
an
impact
on
things.
Are
you
going
to
be
able
to
find
a
way
to
be
able
to
to
to
figure
that
into
what
comes,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
on
a
calculation
on
how
that
might
change
things
as
well,
because,
obviously
we're
going
to
lose
some
of
that
driving
downtown
money
as
well
within
the
affairs
cycle.
P
Okay,
great
and
and
last
but
not
least,
I
you
know
I
from
a
federal
government
perspective
if
the
feds
want
to
get
into
operational,
how
are
we
going
to
confirm
ongoing
support
from
that
perspective,
like
obviously
you're
going
to
have
to
connect
with
our
federal
partners
to
see
if
there
is
those
opportunities
for
this
report?
Would
it
be
correct
in
that.
L
Thank
you
very
much.
I
I
guess
I'm
seeking
a
little
bit
of
clarity
on
on
the
process
here
from
stop's
perspective,
because
my
understanding
is,
we
did
have
a
motion
that
was
before
us
brought
forward
by
council
menard
and
councillor
tierney.
It
has
now
been
com,
it's
been
replaced,
but
in
reality,
it's
now
being
combined
with
a
motion
brought
forward
by
councillor
hughley
that
actually
expands
the
scope
of
what
was
going
to
be
looked
at,
which
I
fully
support.
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
all
the
options.
L
We
need
to
also
combine
that
with
the
long
range
financial
plan
and
get
a
full
and
honest
inspection
for
our
community,
our
residents,
our
transit
users,
our
property,
but
taxpayers,
to
understand
what
are
the
benefits,
advantages,
implications
of
transit,
free
or
otherwise,
or
a
greater
shared
responsibility
on
the
property
tax
base
in
the
ratio.
So
I'm
very
much
in
support
of
the
combined
motion
that
we
have
before
us
that
was
brought
forward
by
councillor
hubley.
L
Conversations
at
commission
has
been
based
on,
as
I
think
mover
said,
originally
many
many
many
months,
if
not
years
of
conversations
with
community
we're
now
asking
staff
and
we'll
be
bringing
it
forward
to
fedco
to
not
only
start
the
process
of
having
a
fulsome
study
into
what
this
all
means.
So
we
can
have
an
honest
conversation
with
our
community.
L
O
I,
mr
mayor,
I
could
comment
a
little
bit.
Our
the
the
two
motions
here
are
not
directing
us
to
conduct
the
study
they're
directing
us
to
scope
the
study
for
later
decision
by
council
on
whether
to
conduct
the
study-
and
I
think,
that's
a
prudent
way
to
go
because
at
this
point
we
who
work
for
the
city
are,
you
know
we're
we're
fairly
experienced
at
making
recommendations
to
you
on
transit
in
ottawa.
O
O
Much
more
knowledgeable
than
we
are
to
give
us
background,
so
we
can
give
you
advice
that
we
can
stand
behind.
So
this
two-step
process
of
sending
us
out
to
do
a
scope
will
allow
you
to
make
a
decision
that
was
properly
informed
on
how
long
that
study
might
take.
What
that
study
will
need
to
include
and
what
kind
of
resources,
financial
and
staff
are
required
to
conduct
a
proper
study.
L
And
but
my
understanding,
though,
as
well,
is
that
it
is
possible
for
commission
members
to
supply
their
their
thoughts
on
scope.
Inclusion
in
this,
we
also
don't
want
scope
creep.
I
mean
this,
isn't
the
first
time
a
community
or
just
addiction
has
examined
fares,
free
or
otherwise,
so
I
mean
once
again,
you
know
if
you
pull
up
wikipedia,
there's
a
whole
page
on
on
free
fare,
so
I
think
we
can.
We
can
maybe
not
encourage
too
much
scope
creep.
L
I
also
would
suggest
too
that
at
fedco,
any
member
of
council
is
welcome
to
give
their
thoughts
on
it.
I
welcome
that.
I
think
that
that's
beneficial,
as
well
as
the
members
of
the
community,
because
that
is
a
committee,
so
I
just
don't
see
a
point
in
having
more
talk
about
this.
I
think
we
need
to
move
forward
with
having
this
study.
I
will
be
supporting
it
when
it
comes
to
fedco
in
terms
of
having
the
study
done.
L
I
think
it's
essential
that
we
have
this
conversation
with
all
members
of
community
our
community
and
actually
get
a
sense
as
to
what
they
feel
in
terms
of
whether
it's
free
or
whether
they'd
like
to
absorb
more
on
the
property
tax
base
or
how
they
would
like
to
see
our
transit
unfold
in
the
future
for
more
sustainable
but
accessible
version
of
our
transit
fare
system.
So
I
will
not
be
supporting
councillor
barkington's
motion.
I
think
we
need
to
move
forward
with
action.
L
J
C
Okay,
well,
I
want
to
let
colleagues
know
support
the
replacement
motion
brought
forward
by
the
chair
and
by
share
the
transit
commission.
It
recognizes
the
intent
of
the
motion
by
councillor
menard
to
scope
out
the
extent
and
the
cost
of
the
study.
We
need
to
know
that,
but
gets
into
quite
a
bit
more
detail
in
terms
of
the
elements
that
should
be
taken
into
account
by
staff
when
determining
the
scope
of
the
work.
C
It
also
asked
staff
to
report
back
at
the
june
meeting
of
fedco,
where
consider
the
long-range
financial
plan
for
transit,
and
I
believe
all
things
related
to
this
long-term
funding
or
transit
system
should
be
considered.
At
the
same
time.
At
the
same
meeting,
I
therefore
ask
you
to
support
the
replacement
motion
from
counselors
hubli
inclusion,
which
still
honors
council
members
request,
which,
while
providing
clear
guidelines
and
a
mechanism
to
report
back
to
federal
and
council
in
the
coming
months,
as
we
heard
from
our
city
treasurer
and
from
pat
at
oc
transpo.
P
G
L
J
Q
C
D
N
D
S
P
C
C
C
Councillor
mckinney
your
lights,
your
mics
on
I'd
encourage
members
not
to
support
this
motion.
Counselor
hubley
obviously
has
the
the
right
to
schedule
a
different
meeting
or
a
separate
meeting,
but,
as
we
all
know,
we
often
find
almost
every
member
counselor
comes
to
our
fedco
meetings.
In
any
event,
so
it's
not
necessary
so
yays
and
nays
on
the
riley
brockington
motion.
Please.
E
B
G
G
G
H
J
Q
N
S
P
C
D
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
that
agriculture
and
rural
affairs
committee
report
29
community
and
protective
services
committee
report,
24
standing
committee
on
environmental
protection,
water
and
waste
management
report,
21a
finance
and
economic
development
committee
report,
36
planning
committee
report,
58
transit
commission
report,
17
transportation
committee
report
27
and
the
report
from
the
city
clerk
entitled
summary
of
oral
and
written
public
submissions
for
items
subject
to
the
planning
act.
Explanation
requirements
at
the
city
council.
Q
I'm
asking
council
for
your
support
and
using
this
process
for
commemorative
naming
in
recognition
that
mr
ludi's
widow
is
experiencing
some
health
issues,
and
it
would
help
us
organize
a
park.
Dedication
ceremony
sooner
than
this
fall,
so
it'd
be
much
appreciated
by
the
family
of
mr
ludi.
Thank
you.
C
I
C
D
C
C
I
C
Okay,
counselor
tierney,
it
seems
like
that's
a
bit
of
a
make
work
project
for
a
staff
we're
already
strapped
as
it
is
so
I'm
not
going
to
support,
putting
together
an
information
report.
We
you
saw
the
report,
it
was
you
approved
it
when
it
first
came
out,
council
approved
it
now,
it's
gone
out
to
tender
and
to
have
staff
come
back
and
put
together
a
five
or
seven
page
report
on
exactly
what
we've
already
been
discussing
for
the
last
year
seems
like
a
waste
of
time
and
money.
Counselor
tierney.
P
Great
to
thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
I'm
happy
to
see
a
lot
of
the
things
have
been
removed,
and
now
we've
gotten
down
to
a
point
where
I
know
in
a
conversation
with
the
counselor.
He
wanted
to
make
his
points
public
well
we're
in
the
most
public
forum.
Right
now
is
the
council
meeting,
and
I
think
your
constituents
and
the
stakeholders
that
that
you
represent
are
hearing
you
loud
and
clear.
We
also
had
a
conversation
about
this
entire
project
that
was
voted
on
in
2018..
P
I
was
the
only
one
that
dissented
on
that
project
by
the
way
I'll
point
that
out
and
now
I'm
very
satisfied
with
this
project
in
it
going
forward
on
the
topic
of
a
report,
I'm
looking
at
me.
Maybe
a
tammy
rose,
because
I
feel
we're
going
to
be
hopping
in
a
time
machine
on
every
single
project.
If
we
start
doing
this,
and
this
is
going
to
create
a
big
burden
on
our
staff,
have
we
maybe,
if
it's
karina
or
tammy
rose,
have
we
actually
ever
done
anything
like
this
before?
D
P
P
Well,
council,
colleagues,
I
I
hate
to
add
a
new
level
of
burden
to
our
staff
on
something
that
frankly
can
pick
up
the
phone
and
make
a
phone
call
to
staff
and
others
do
it
for
you.
Our
staff
are
terrific,
they're
professional
they've
done
a
great
job
on
this
and
we're
getting
past
the
point
of
delay
after
delay
after
delay.
So
I
encourage
you
not
to
support
this
specific
motion.
I
think
our
staff
are
more
than
capable
of
contacting
us.
They
get
back
to
me
within
five
minutes
anytime.
P
G
I'm
more
interested,
mr
mayor
about
a
policy
in
place.
So
if
we
already
voted
for
this
item,
if
this
item
has
already
been
going
out
for
tender
like
what
what
are
we
trying
to
achieve
here,
a
delay
to
the
project
or
make
a
work
for
our
staff?
Like
I
like
honest,
I
want
to
understand
this
because
any
time
we
tinker
with
those
projects
they
come
back
with
more
costly
and
anytime.
We
do
cost
more
than
other
projects
fall
off
the
list.
G
So
I
I
don't
understand.
We
had
a
great
report
made
up
by
our
staff
the
asset
management.
Unfortunately,
we
care
it
without
even
thinking
about
or
even
thanking
the
staff
for
doing
such
a
one
of
the
best
reporting
on
asset
management.
Anyone
can
dream
of,
and
yet
they
are
the
professional
they're
the
paid
and
and
they
recommend
to
us.
We
approve
that
and
then
in
the
last
minute,
where
two
weeks
before
the
the
construction
start
working.
G
We
like
to
know
more
about
this,
I
feel
to
understand-
and
I
and
I'm
not
trying
to
pick
on
my
colleagues
just
trying
to
understand
what
are
we
trying
to
achieve
here
and
where
is
the
policy
on
this
one?
Can't
the
policy
know
that
that
item
has
gone
out
for
tender
and
there's
there's
no
need
for
us
to
come
back.
D
Yes,
I
can
start
off
and
perhaps
we
can
get.
I
don't
know
if
mr
rick
o'connor
would
like
to
jump
in
from
a
procedural
process,
but
as
soon
as
staff
is
provided
direction
by
council
either
through
a
motion
direction.
Report
project
approvals
through
the
capital
budget
process
we
receive
delegated
approvals,
then
to
move
forward
and
advancing
those
projects
according
to
to
the
agreed-upon
scope.
D
I
Okay,
so
thank
you.
Thank
you,
members
of
council.
I
you
will
have
projects
in
your
ward
that
don't
advance
as
you
wish.
The
reference
to
from
the
chair
of
transportation
committee
on
my
vote
in
favor
was
downtown
moves.
If
you
remember
downtown
moves
is
quite
large.
It's
from
bronson
all
the
way
to
the
university
of
ottawa.
This
is
a
small
scope
of
a
larger
project
which
I
support.
In
theory,
I
have
voted
against
the
budget
every
time
it's
come
up.
On
that
specific
item
for
the
mckenzie
bridge.
I
I
have
four
areas
of
concern
that
are
that
are
raised
by
my
community
that
I've
conveyed
to
staff.
All
I'm
asking
is
for
the
final
scope
of
this
project,
which
doesn't
have
a
website
which
has
not
landed
publicly
to
be
formed
at
committee,
which
will
allow
myself
to
formalize
my
comments
on
the
report.
It
doesn't
delay
the
project.
It
doesn't
cost
us
more,
but
it
allows
for
us
to
form
record
on
on
what
was
the
ultimate
scope
defined
by
this
project.
So
stat
I
I'd
worked
with
staff.
I
amended
the
motion.
I
They
were
okay
to
come
to
the
next
transportation
committee.
I
understand,
there's
a
there's,
a
a
discomfort
of
using
this
process
for
us
to
express
ultimately
and
officially
concerns,
but
it
has
no
implication
on
budget
or
ability
to
deliver
the
the
project
that
staff's
asking.
So
I
believe
this
to
be
an
appropriate
use
of
legislative
tools
and
would
ask
your
your
support
on
that
matter.
C
Thank
you
well,
just
to
conclude.
The
original
report
was
going
to
delay
the
process
by
a
year,
eight
million
dollars.
So
it's
been
replaced
by
a
vague
motion
that
we
get
some
kind
of
information
report
staff
have
confirmed.
It's
ever
been
done
before.
I
think
staff
dread
coming
to
council
meetings,
because
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
we
have
all
sorts
of
directions
and
motions
that
put
more
and
more
work
on
their
plate.
C
They
are
stretched
to
the
limit
they've
been
dealing
with
kovit
19
and
doing
an
excellent
job
and
they're
trying
to
juggle
about
100
balls
to
get
things
through
the
system
during
very
difficult
times.
We
need
to
think
long
and
hard
about
giving
them
more
and
more
work
with
the
same
amount
of
time
that
we
expect
them
to
do
all
their
other
work.
So
I'd
encourage
you
to
send
a
signal
of
support
to
staff
and
say
no
to
this.
The
counselor
can
get
information.
He
can
relay
that
back
to
his
in
his
individual
colleagues.
C
C
It's
going
to
be
just
like
where
queen
street
is
now
queen
street
is
a
beautiful
new
street,
as
we've
seen
with
elgin,
as
we've
seen
with
main
street,
so
lots
of
investments
going
into
the
downtown
core,
but
I
think
going
and
asking
staff
to
basically
put
together
a
four
or
five
or
seven
page
report
that
probably
one
person
in
this
room
will
read
and
then
it
collects
dust.
So
I'd
urge
you
to
vote
no
against
it
yays
and
nays
on
the
flurry
motion.
Please.
E
L
L
Q
Q
R
S
C
N
Thank
you
so
much
great
if
it
can
come
up
on
the
screen
mayor,
it's
asking
our
staff
to
look
into
the
29
dangerous
intersections
that
they
identified
about
three
years
ago
in
our
city,
and
it
asked
them
to
come
back
in
budget
2023
to
to
look
at
how
we
can
rectify
the
situation.
It's
not
giving
strict
direction
on
amount
of
funds
or
where
and
what,
but
it
is
asking
them
to
take
a
closer
and
sharper
look
at
this.
N
It
was
about
three
years
ago
that
staff
were
tasked
with
investigating
these
intersections
and
coming
up
with
plans
to
address
them.
It
came
to
transportation
committee.
We
saw
in
that
in
that
interim
injuries
continue
vulnerable
road
users,
but
also
people,
driving
vehicles
and,
and
so
staff
did
do
their
job.
They
came
back,
they
said
here's
29
intersections.
These
are
dangerous,
we
should
fix
them
and
for
almost
three
years
we
did
sit
on
that
report.
But
in
the
meantime
we've
had.
N
So
we
need
to
rethink
that
strategy
and
start
to
ensure
that
you
know
staff
are
tasked
with
and
in
reviewing
these
and
to
come
up
with
a
a
real
plan
for
how
we
could
start
to
fund
these
towards
2023.
I
don't
see
the
motion
up
there
and
the
reason
I'm
asking
for
it
is
just
that.
I
think
it's
it's
important
to
look
at
the
the
operational
clause
of
the
motion.
Again,
it's
not
specific.
N
C
K
K
K
It
also
maintains
our
gender
ratio,
obviously,
and
council
kits-
is
a
form
of
journalist
and
we
are
about
to
undertake
a
study
or
a
revamping
of
our
intellectual
freedom
statement,
and
so
I
think
that
counselor
kits
would
be
a
wonderful
addition
to
the
board
and
a
and,
as
a
a
major
supporter
of
the
ottawa
public
library,
I
would
encourage
my
colleagues
to
support
this.
Thank
you
very
much.
C
I
Pass
is
valid
for
may
2022
travel
on
oc
transport
to
be
distributed
to
eligible
students
who
held
a
u-pass
for
the
january
april
2022
term.
Be
it
further
resolve
that
estimated
additional
cost
up
to
325
000
be
funded
from
the
transit
operating
reserve
and
the
city
city
seeks
to
recover
the
foregone
revenue
from
other
levels
of
government
in
the
request
for
compensation
for
the
occupation.
Mr
mayor,
I
believe
the
325
000
is
the
sum
of
all
of
all
campuses
of
all
the
u-passes,
just
to
be
clear.
C
N
Thanks
very
much
mayor,
the
last
motion
staff
were
tasked
to
go
back
and
speak
with
the
universities
and
work
through
how
this
might
function
and
the
universities
are
asking
for
a
change
here:
they're,
not
asking
for
any
more
money
from
councils,
the
same
amount
of
funding,
but
they
want
to
give
students
a
chance
who
are
going
home
and
may
not
benefit
from
a
may
pass
students
that
have
graduated
students
that
might
be
buying
the
may
this
this
summer,
u-pass,
which
wouldn't
benefit
from
that
either
another
option.
And
so
we've
worked
with
the
universities.
N
N
N
U
passes
that
were
issued
to
students
at
the
three
universities
be
a
further
resolve
that
the
maximum
amount
be
dispersed
under
this
motion,
either
as
a
no
charge
transit
pass
for
may
or
a
refund
remaining
at
that
730
000
amount
and
be
a
further
resolve
that
the
city
treasurer
ensure
that
the
identification
of
students
eligible
for
refunds
and
the
issuance
of
refunds
meet
all
applicable
financial
audit
and
monitoring
requirements.
So
small
change,
but
this
response
to
what
the
universities
are
saying.
N
We've
had
conversations
with
mayor
our
old
stomping
grounds
at
the
rita
river
residents
association
qsys
sent
us
letters
on
this.
The
university
administrations
have
been
involved
mayor,
so
this
will
satisfy
their
concerns
and
the
student
concerns
that
have
that
have
come
forward
it'll
help
too
anyway.
C
O
Most
originally,
both
carlton
and
university
of
ottawa
requested
a
a
full
refund
of
that
month,
which,
as
we
know,
council,
decided
against
or
did
not
decide
in
favor
of
at
his
last
meeting,
we
proposed
another
solution
where
we
would
engage
with
the
students
who
are
upass
holders
directly
with
oc
transport
staff
university
of
ottawa
and
has
accepted
that
fairly
explicitly
carleton
university,
I
believe,
accepts
it.
They
came
back
with
another
request.
C
So
here's
the
problem
we're
going
to
have
to
issue
upwards
of
44
000
checks
and
it
costs
us
wendy
about
three
dollars
and
fifty
cents
to
issue
a
check.
So
that's
132,
000
out
the
door
plus
postage
and
postage
is
not
cheap
anymore,
plus
the
staff
time
plus
the
fact
that
we're
gonna
lose
close
to
a
million
dollars
in
transit.
When
we're,
we
should
be
trying
to
encourage
people
to
take
transit
where
we
want
to
do
that
by
allowing
them
an
extra
month
without
charge
on
their
presto
card
or
their
u-pass.
C
So
I
would
hope
that
we
would
think
long
and
hard
about
doing
this
because
we
made
a
decision
as
a
council
not
too
long
ago,
to
go
the
route
of
extending
the
pass
by
one
month
and
we've
also
been
very
generous
in
terms
of
the
no
charge
in
december
and
no
fair
increase
for
the
last
several
months,
but
at
some
point
we're
going
to
need
that
revenue
to
sustain
the
system
that
we've
built.
So
I
would
encourage
members
to
think
long
and
hard
about
a
changing
course
midway
through
the
process.
N
N
What
they're
actually
going
to
get
is
13.25
because
they've
calculated
it
for
the
cost
of
postage
and
sending
out
the
letters
staff
have
said
they
checked.
This
is
operational,
so
we
took
into
account
that
that
cost
of
sending
out
with
the
letters
and
the
postage
post
is
included
in
there
absolutely
and
their
universities
are,
are
telling
us
right
from
the
get-go.
When
this
was
initially
passed,
they
were
concerned,
they
didn't,
they
did
not
like
it.
N
So
mr
scrimger
is
right
that
they
agree
with
the
method
of
how
they
can
reimburse,
but
they
don't
agree
with
the
the
may
pass,
because
many
students
can't
benefit
from
it
they're
either.
Many
students
that
come
to
university
in
ottawa
go
home,
but
when
they
had
when
we
had
free
transit
going
because
of
the
occupation,
they
the
students
were
the
only
ones
paying
a
fare,
so
many
of
them
will
not
be
receiving
that
because
either
they're
home
and
coming
back
to
university,
they're,
graduating
or
they're
purchasing
a
may
to
september.
N
You
pass
and
they
won't
benefit
from
the
free
pass
that
we're
offering
in
may
many
students
do
that
as
well,
that
stay
in
ottawa.
So
look
at
this
is
a
better
solution.
It
doesn't
cost
the
city
any
more
money
at
all.
It's
the
exact
same
amount,
we've
already
committed
to
and
staff
say
it
can
be
operationalized.
So
look,
I
think
you
know
mayor
our
our
alma
mater
is
asking
us
to
do
this
university
of
ottawa
carlton
university,
st
paul
they're,
asking
for
for
this
change.
N
M
O
O
That
would
be
that's
the
13
number,
so
what
we
would
do
is
we
would
be
going
out
onto
campuses
with
oc
transpose
staff
next
week
asking
students
to
who
are
interested
in
either
the
may
free
pass,
the
may
no
charge
pass
or
the
refund
to
come
and
speak
to
our
customer
service
representatives.
We
would
take
down
their
information
if
they
qualify
for
the
may
pass
and
would
like
to
may
pass.
We
will
give
them
one
if
they
would
qualify
for
the
refund
and
they
want
a
refund.
O
C
Okay,
well,
I
would
encourage
members
not
to
vote
for
this.
We
already
supported
a
resolution
that
we
go
the
route
of
extending
the
pass
by
a
month.
We
want
to
encourage
people
to
take
the
bus.
Handing
out
checks
in
an
election
year.
Doesn't
look
that
good
on
our
part,
but
I
believe
it
was
a
reasonable
gesture
to
recognize
the
hardship
that
many
students
endured
during
the
occupation
on
many
oc
transport,
downtown
routes
that
were
detoured,
including
the
lrt
which
not
did
not
run
for
a
number
of
days
during
the
police
operation.
C
It's
important
to
note
that
the
service
never
did
stop
during
the
trans,
the
occupation.
It
was
always
maintained
under
routes
that
allowed
people
to
get
to
where
they
wanted
to
go,
maybe
not
as
quickly
as
possible,
and
the
motion
was
also
consistent
with
the
post
occupation
motions.
We
approve
to
provide
no
charge
service
for
a
month
on
downtown
routes.
The
month
of
no
charge
service
was
helpful,
encouraging
people
to
a
come
back
to
the
downtown,
to
support
impacted
businesses
and
b,
do
so
by
using
transit.
C
Unfortunately,
some
have
now
decided
to
change
the
course
where
we've
been
engaged
in
good
faith
with
the
universities
to
find
a
practical
way
to
hand
out
these
new
passes.
Extensions
for
me,
so
university
has
been
told
not
to
bother
working
with
our
staff,
because
the
motion
would
come
forward
today
to
secure
reimbursements
those
13
reimbursement
checks
will
be
staff
intensive
to
administer
expensive
to
issue
and
they
go
against
most
other
transit
policies.
C
They
will
not
encourage
people
to
take
transit
with
that
13
in
their
pocket,
but
with
an
extension
for
an
extra
month
that
will
allow
them
to
get
back
on
the
buses
and
on
the
trains.
So
I
encourage
colleagues
not
to
go
down
this
path
of
issuing
these
checks
a
couple
of
months
before
an
election.
I
think
it
just
doesn't
make
any
sense
at
all
yays
and
nays
on
the
menard
motion.
Please.
H
B
G
J
E
S
P
D
Be
it
resolved
that
the
rules
of
suspension
are
okay,
I'll
skip
that
part
I'll
just
go
to
the
warehouses
to
the
air
force
since
we
want
to
get
out
of
here,
therefore,
be
resolved.
The
council
direct
staff
to
report
back
to
council
by
qt
2022
and
identify
at
least
three
suitable
roofs
at
city-owned
facilities
to
increase
renewable
electricity
generation
through
leasing,
solar
rooftop
equipment
for
net
metering,
establish
a
working
group
with
hydro
ottawa
and
technical
experts
by
qt
2022
to
explore
the
potential
for
enhanced
community
net
metering
and
further
enable
distributed
energy
resources.
D
Council
direct
staff
to
report
back
to
the
standing
committee
on
environmental
protection,
water
and
waste
management
by
q4
2023,
with
an
evaluation
of
existing
solar
pv
systems
and
impact
to
facilities
installed
at
city,
owned
facilities,
distributed
energy
resource
framework
for
city-owned
facilities
and
land,
including
renewable
energy
generation.
Solar
and
wind
energy
storage
demand
response
potential
policies
to
install
distributed
energy
resources
at
cities,
facilities
or
on
city
land,
and
see
standing
staff
and
funding
implications
to
implement
and
support
the
distributed
energy
resource
framework.
D
C
E
C
C
K
Whereas
the
pick
is
providing
due
diligence
and
preparing
a
site
plan
application
for
the
development
of
this
storage
facility,
they
require
proof
of
owner
consents
to
the
addition
of
this
new
building
on
site
and
whereas
creo's
formal
circulation
and
proposed
land
leads
to
all
departments
and
external
partners.
By
march
21st
to
april
12.
2022
yielded
no
objections
and
is
supported
by
myself.
The
ward
councillor,
therefore
be
it
resolved
at
the
council
that
council
direct
staff
today
to
address
all
comments
that
were
received
from
the
formal
circulation
process.
K
C
C
G
Therefore,
we
resolve
that
staff
review
existing
process
to
identify
opportunities
for
improvement
regarding
the
criteria
for
when
capital
project
changes
are
brought
to
council
for
approval
and
how
to
clear,
identify
the
impact
to
the
renewal
program
due
to
the
project,
scope,
changes
and
overall
process
improvement
and
therefore
be
a
further
result
that
staff
will
report
back
to
council
by
q2
2023
with
the
recommended
approach.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
C
R
Part
two,
the
number
of
vehicles
towed
from
the
red
zone,
total
cost
of
towing
services
and
who
paid
for
the
service
the
number
of
vehicles
that
have
been
recovered
by
the
owner
and
the
number
of
vehicles
still
in
storage
and
the
number
of
vehicles
sold
to
offset
associated
costs
with
the
convoy
occupation
and
part
three.
What
were
the
final
costs
of
policing
during
the
convoy
occupation
and
what
is
or
are
the
legal
plan
or
plans
to
recoup
those
funds,
in
particular
from
convoy,
organizers
and
others?
Thank
you.
D
Oh
yes,
thank
you,
mr
mayor.
On
saturday
march
26
2022,
a
convoy
of
approximately
300
vehicles
passed
through
downtown
ottawa
from
the
quebec
border
traveling
to
van
cleek
hill.
This
group
is
was
highly
sympathetic
to
the
people
who
illegally
occupied
downtown
residential
neighborhoods
for
23
days
from
january
29th
to
february
20th
2022,
resulting
in
ongoing
harassment,
intimidation
threats
and
assaults
on
our
residents.
D
The
cost
of
the
city
of
this
illegal
occupation
is
estimated
to
be
at
least
36.3
million.
The
cost
to
our
local
businesses
is
estimated
to
be
between
44
to
200
million.
The
cost
to
mostly
low
wage
workers
who
lost
three
to
four
weeks
of
wages
is,
is
extensive,
many
of
whom
may
not
fully
recover
the
mental
health
costs
to
our
downtown
neighbors
cannot
be
adequately
described.
D
The
municipal,
provincial
and
federal
governments
each
were
required
to
declare
this
occupation
as
an
emergency.
Invoking
for
the
first
time
in
canadian
history,
the
emergencies
act
residents
question
why
the
city
would
allow
another
convoy
which
is
sympathetic
to
and
likely
connected
to,
the
illegal
occupation
to
access
a
route
through
our
downtown
streets,
blocking
access
to
homes
and
businesses
for
hours.
D
Does
this
authority
grant
the
municipality
the
legal
right
to
block
passage
into
the
city
at
a
provincial
border
or
other
point
where
such
a
convoy
of
vehicles
is
approaching?
How
can
we
ensure
the
convoy
similar
to
what
snaked
its
way
through
the
downtown
in
a
show
of
intimidation
and
ridicule
to
our
residents,
not
occur
again?
Keeping
in
mind
that
the
movement
from
where
this
convoy
began
to
its
destination
did
not
need
to
include
the
route
it
chose?
D
Would
an
injunction
against
a
certain
number
of
vehicles
meant
to
perform
as
a
convoy
be
effective
in
ensuring
this
does
not
occur
again
in
our
city?
What
other
measures
are
available
to
the
municipality
to
ensure
that
we
do
not
continue
to
incur
the
cost
of
providing
passage
for
vehicular
convoys?
Thank
you.