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Planning and Housing Committee
Meeting #: 10
Date: Wednesday, June 07, 2023
Time: 9:30 am
Location: Champlain Room, 110 Laurier Avenue West, and by electronic participation
Agenda: https://pub-ottawa.escribemeetings.com/Meeting.aspx?Id=9958359f-1a0f-4c99-bc92-799d7b35cd0d&Agenda=Agenda&lang=English
C
B
D
B
Thank
you
very
much
and
in
case
you're
wondering
this
is
a
public
meeting
to
consider
the
comprehensive
official
plan
and
Zoning
bylaw
amendments.
This
is
four
one
through
four
five
and
five
one
on
today's
agenda
for
the
items
just
mentioned.
Only
those
who
make
oral
submissions
today
or
written
submissions
before
the
amendments
are
adopted.
May
appeal,
the
matter
to
the
Ontario
land
tribunal.
In
addition,
the
applicant
May
appeal
the
matter
to
the
Ontario
land
tribunal.
B
If
Council
does
not
adopt
an
amendment
within
90
days
of
receipt
of
the
application
for
a
zoning,
bylaw,
Amendment
and
120
days
for
an
official
plan
amendment
to
submit
written
comments
on
these
amendments
prior
to
their
consideration
by
City
Council
on
June,
14
2023,
please
email
or
call
the
committee
coordinator.
Are
there
any
Declarations
of
Interest
none
scream
who's
joining
us
online
today,
hi
online
participants
welcome
to
planning
housing.
B
B
C
Right,
whereas
on
May
24
2023
Council
received
a
memorandum
from
the
general
manager
planning
real
estate
and
economic
development
regarding
the
city
of
ottawa's,
cmhc
housing,
accelerator
fund
application
and
whereas
it
would
be
beneficial
for
the
planning
and
housing
committee
to
formally
have
the
opportunity
to
ask
questions
of
Staff
prior
to
the
submission
of
the
city's
application.
Therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
the
memorandum
from
the
general
manager
be
added
to
the
agenda
for
the
June
7th
planning
and
housing
committee
agenda
to
be
received
as
a
communication
and
for
discussion.
B
Is
that
carried
thank
you
going
through
the
agenda?
Then
there
is
first
the
zoning
bylaw
Amendment
for
1565
Maple,
Grove
Road.
We
don't
have
any
delegations
on
that
item.
The
applicants,
Tamara
nahal
Jenna,
McLeod
and
Richard
Stacy
and
Miguel
Trombley-
are
here
no
they're
online.
If
the
committee
is
prepared
to
carry
this,
do
you
need
to
speak
applicants.
B
Thank
you
is.
Is
that
item
carried?
Thank
you.
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
1244.
Kilbourne,
Place,
Thomas
and
Saeed
are
here
Saeed
good
to
see
you
as
well
as
Ivo
van
valentic
and
Richard
palmenvale
from
the
applicants
we
do
have
staff
teed
up
with
a
presentation.
Did
colleagues
want
to
receive
the
presentation?
B
There
we
go
I'll
go
back
to
Scott
the
zoning
bylaw
Amendment
for
1546
Scott
Street
staff
are
prepared
to
make
a
presentation
if
anyone
would
like,
but
there
are
no
delegations,
the
applicants
are
with
us,
Tess
Gilchrist,
Melissa,
McGregor
and
Michael
Hogan.
Are
they
online
or
are
they
here
they're
online?
Do
the
applicants
want
to
address
this
item?
Even
if
the
committee
is
prepared
to
carry
it.
C
Two
of
the
report,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that,
with
respect
to
the
report,
planning
and
housing
committee
amend
document
two
by
substituting
section
2c6,
the
tower
portion
of
a
building
which
includes
any
portion
above
the
fourth
floor
must
not
have
a
floor
plate
larger
than
750
meters
with
each
floor
of
the
tower
portion
of
a
building
which
includes
any
portion
above
the
fourth
floor
must
not
have
a
total
floor
area
larger
than
750
square
meters
and
be
a
further
resolve
that
pursue
it
to
subsection
3417
of
the
planet.
Act
no
further
notice
be
given.
B
H
B
I
C
B
You,
okay,
I'm
gonna,
make
sure
the
pages
pages
are
sticking
I
think
this
is
I,
think
it's
the
smoke
for
the
item
at
788,
River
Road
and
an
unaddressed
parcel.
There
are
no
delegations.
Staff
are
prepared
to
make
a
presentation
if
committee
members
would
like
one
Evan,
Garfunkel,
Greg,
Winters
and
James
Ireland
are
available
to
speak
to
the
item,
Evan,
Greg
and
James.
If
the
committee
is
prepared
to
carry
this,
did
you
still
wish
to
speak.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you
is
that
carried.
Thank
you
for
the
item
at
one
old
Sunset
Boulevard
staff
are
prepared
to
make
a
presentation.
If
one
is
asked
for
we
don't
have
any
delegations.
The
applicants
Tyler
and
Jamie
from
photon
is
a
camel
are
available
to
speak
to
us
to
the
applicants.
If
the
committee
is
prepared
to
carry
this
one,
oh
okay,
did
you
want
to
ask
okay
perfect?
H
Thank
you
counselor
Mr
chair.
While
we
can't
impose
conditions
within
the
context
of
a
zoning
bylaw
Amendment,
we
have
been
in
discussions
with
the
applicant
and
they
have
demonstrated
that
they
are
flexible
and
willing
to
work
with
building
code
service
staff
in
order
to
find
a
proper
solution
for
Waste
Management.
That's.
K
H
B
The
item
at
5618
Hazel,
Dean
Road-
there
is
a
presentation
available
if
committee
members
want
to
receive
that
there
are
no
delegations,
the
applicants
represented
by
Lisa,
Del,
Rosa
and
Carl
Fernie
are
prepared
to
make
a
presentation
to
the
applicants.
Do
you
wish
to
make
a
presentation
if
the
committee
is
willing
to
carry
this.
B
C
H
B
You
so
that
moves
us
to
the
additional
item,
which
is
the
housing
affordability
fund.
Members
of
council
have
received
a
memo
from
staff
describing
the
proposed
approach
to
applying
for
the
federal
housing
accelerator
fund.
We
have
an
opportunity
this
morning
to
ask
questions
of
Staff,
but
we
also
have
a
delegation.
B
N
Thank
you
good
morning,
I'm
I'm,
here
from
make
housing
affordable,
which
is
an
organization
focused
on
the
kind
of
the
housing
crisis
in
the
city
of
Ottawa.
As
you
know,
we're
faced
with
a
with
a
housing
crisis
with
a
great
deal
of
problems
with
Supply.
Both
of
you
know
for
a
rental
markets
and
non-profit
development,
and
so
we
would
like
to
take
this
opportunity
to
kind
of
address
the
planning
committee
about
the
opportunities
presented
by
the
housing
accelerator
fund
that
the
federal
government
is
is
putting
forward.
N
At
the
same
time
as
we
benefit
the
environment,
Transit
people's
wallets
and
the
city's
finances-
and
so
I
was
just
hoping
today
to
go
over
kind
of
10
of
the
25
reforms
that
the
federal
government
is
suggesting
cities
that
put
forward
that.
We
hope
that
the
city
would
be
adopting
in
in
their
application,
and
it's
important
to
note
that
the
slide
titles
here
are
taken
directly
from
the
cmhc's
document.
That's
the
next
slide,
please.
N
So
the
first
big
one-
and
this
was
done
in
Toronto
recently-
was
the
redevelop
that
was
allowing
I'm
sorry.
This
was
this
one
was
not
done
in
Toronto
yet,
but
allowing
development
of
up
to
10
stories
by
right
near
Transit
that
the
city
is
investing
a
lot
of
money
into
Transit
and
kind
of
being
able
to
produce
these
walkable
areas
where
people
can
have
easy
access
to
Transit.
It's
a
good
thing
to
increase
density
next
slide,
please.
N
So
this
one
is
what
was
recently
done
by
Toronto
that
in
allowing
for
units
by
right
to
be
allowed
the
city-wide
on
any
lot-
and
this
is
something
I
believe
the
city
is
moving
towards
as
well.
In
the
bylaw
review,
and
hopefully
kind
of
the
federal
government
is,
can
push
the
city
to
to
accelerate
that
a
little
on
the
timeline
next
slide,
please.
N
Next
slide,
please
as
well.
A
a
way
of
encouraging,
affordable
housing
to
be
constructed
even
within
for-profit
units,
is
to
enable
density
bonusing
that
as
non
as
as
a
for-profit
suppliers,
add
more
affordable
units
into
a
into
a
building.
Perhaps
the
city
allows
more
density
or
more
Heights
and
I
I
apologize,
yes,
and
and
so
that
that
would
also
go
away
to
increase
both
the
regular,
the
for-profit
supply
and
the
non-profit.
Supply
next
slide,
please,
as
well
as
as
kind
of
we
saw
with
360
Kennedy
Lane.
N
Recently
that
parking
requirements
do
cause
an
obstacle
to
construction,
especially
of
affordable
housing
and
so
the
city
implementing
similar
to
Toronto
and
other
cities
and
Edmonton
the
elimination
of
parking
or
as
a
reduction
of
parking
minimum,
similar
to
what
we
have
in
the
core
city-wide,
and
this
is
also
a
reform.
The
federal
government
is
Keen
on
next
slide.
N
Please
another
one-
and
this
relates
to
the
other
one-
is
enabling
more
housing
types
serving
vulnerable
populations
kind
of
when
you
increase,
when
you
increase
density,
you're
able
to
construct
more-
let's
say,
social
housing
or
Supportive
Housing
in
ways
that
wouldn't
be
allowed
in
in
places
where
the
density
is
too
low
to
allow
for
that
sort
of
thing.
So
enabling
that
would
also
increase
would
increase
that
next
slide.
Please,
as
well,
reducing
well
and
streamlining
Urban,
Design
and
character
guidelines.
N
We
saw
yesterday
with
the
low-rise
guidelines,
q
a,
and
this
would
go
a
long
way
as
well
next
slide
waving
public
hearings
on
affordable
housing
that
again
with
360.
We
saw
that
kind
of
console
consultations
that
ultimately
LED
nowhere
led
to
delays
next
slide,
please
as
well,
enabling
this
was
also
in
the
alliance
report
enabling
mixed
use,
Redevelopment
of
City
properties.
N
B
N
B
K
Bernard,
thank
you
very
much
chair
thanks
for
being
here
and
appreciated
the
report.
Release
I
think
it
was
yesterday
and
read
through
it
and
was
happy
to
see
a
lot
of
the
recommendations
that
you
had
put
forward
on
development
charges,
specifically
we're
reviewing
that
now.
As
a
city,
there's
a
working
group,
that's
been
established
to
look
into
development
charges.
One
thing
that
I've
pointed
out
last
term
and
this
term
is
that
our
single
unit,
Home
Development
charges
are
extremely
low.
K
They
are
one
of
the
lowest
in
the
province
for
larger
cities,
and
we
are,
of
course,
incenting
that
type
of
growth
instead
of
apartment
buildings,
based
on
where
the
DCs
are,
in
my
view,
so
I
I'm
wondering
what
you
would
feel
about
the
shift
in
DC's
in
terms
of
a
lower
cost
for
multi-unit
homes
versus
a
higher
cost
for
the
single
unit
homes.
So
a
shift
in
the
DC's
that
would
kind
of
come
out
in
a
wash
as
overall
fees
but
encourage
the
type
of
housing.
We
say
we
want
so.
N
As
I
said
that,
that
is
something
that
we
would
encourage,
that
that
what
we
would
like
to
see
is
a
sort
of
very,
very
dense
development
inside
of
the
urban
core
for
for
a
number
of
reasons,
and
because
the
goal
is
to
increase
Supply
and
increasing
the
we
can
increase
it
by.
You
know
encouraging
sprawl
or
we
can
increase
it
by
doing
infill
and
both
of
those
are
viable
paths
for
the
city
to
take.
K
I
I
I
Yeah,
the
only
red
flag
that
I
saw
in
your
proposal
and
I
look
forward
to
talking
it
through
more
with
you
is
every
developer.
Who's
coming
to
me
in
my
Award
right
now
is
for
purpose
built
rentals,
because
the
condo
Market
is
kind
of
Tanked,
but
none
of
these
are
affordable
and
in
a
lot
of
cases,
they're
leading
to
displacements,
specifically
in
Center
town,
the
removal
of
larger,
more
affordable
homes
for
taller
denser
buildings,
which
I
support
but
filled
with
really
really
tiny.
I
Apartments
like
400
to
you,
know,
300
400,
600
square
feet,
and
so
I
would
be
very
cautious
about
providing
any
sort
of
financial
incentive
for
more
of
that
type
of
housing.
When
I
would
like
to
see
the
density,
but
I
want
those
homes
to
be
more
livable
so
and
I
would
rather
see
those
incentives,
go
to
non-profit
housing
providers
for
purpose-built,
affordable
rentals,
but
we
can
talk
about
that
more
later.
Thank
you.
So
much.
N
We
can
take
off
a
lot
of
the
pressure
on
the
core,
we're
seeing
we're
seeing
these
displacements
happen,
but
by
enabling
kind
of
of
four
to
eight
stories
scattered
around
the
city,
more
we're
able
to
to
kind
of
produce
less
of
these
enormous
Towers
and
single-family
homes
that
are
kind
of
the
dichotomy
here
and
so
by
by
spreading
that's
one
of
the
things
that
I
would
say
that
that
would
possibly
deal
with
that
concern
and,
of
course,
we
very
much
would
like
more
non-profit
and
co-op
housing.
Things
like
that.
Thank.
B
You
thank
you
very
much.
I
do
have
a
a
quick
question,
so
development
charges
as
ordinarily
applied
so
notwithstanding,
discounts
that
may
be
coming
into
place
with
Bill
23,
are
very
closely
tied
to
things
like
level
of
service
right.
The
the
cost
of
building
infrastructure
is
what
drives
the
costs
or
the
the
development
charge.
N
I'm
not
100
certain,
but
I.
One
of
the
things
that
I
would
say
is
a
lot
of
the
stuff
we're
seeing
inside
the
green
belt
is
a
lot
of
multi-unit
like
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
units
being
constructed.
So
it's
kind
of
the
cost
for
one
single
family
home
outside
of
the
green
belt
versus
the
the
development
charge,
is
kind
of
piling
up
over
an
entire
apartment.
Building
that
might
have
let's
say
100
units
in
it,
so
that
that's
just
a
I
guess
the
thought
I
would
have
about
that.
B
You
know,
maybe
that's
something
that
McAllister
and
affordable
could
help
us
with
just
I
I
really
quickly
took
a
look
inside
and
outside
the
green
belt
on
multi-res
and
again,
I
think
we're
looking
at
roughly
that
30
percent
discount
well,
maybe
not
as
much
outside
the
green
belt
multi
res
or
is
14432
inside
the
green
belt.
11
379
adore.
So
you
know
we're
pli.
O
Thank
you
very
much
chair.
Sorry,
I
just
didn't
want
to
bike
in
this
weather
yeah.
Thank
you
very
much
Andrew
for
the
what
you're
working
on
I
just
want
to
know
in
as
chair
of
Ottawa
Community
Housing,
how
this
is
going
to
help
Ottawa
Community
Housing
as
the
as
the
city
is
the
single
shareholder
of
this
Corporation
and
just
want
to
know
what
we
can
see
in
terms
of
the
future
for
on
this
program.
N
Thank
you
for
the
question.
I
think
several
ways
that
the
first
one
is
the
sort
of
housing
that
Ottawa
Community
Housing
constructs
tends
to
be
denser
and
require
less
parking
than
other
for-profit.
Developments
that
happen
in
the
city,
so
kind
of
making
it
easier
to
construct
that
sort
of
dense
housing
already
would
enable
OCH
to
have
an
easier
way
through,
say
community
consultations
or
things
like
that
and
have
a
wider
area
across
the
city
to
build
housing
in.
N
O
Thank
you,
and
as
councilor
troster
mentioned
about
bigger
units,
Ottawa
Community
Housing
is
is
willing
to
to
have
those
bigger
units
which
is
very
helpful.
We
know
that
there's
large
families
in
need
and
though
those
there's
still
a
need
out
there,
so
I
think
that's
something
that
also
helps
out
as
well
as
the
other
non-profits,
by
the
way
I'm
not
being
exclusive,
but
but
it
strikes
me
that,
with
the
lower
cost
per
per
unit
that
that
they're
charging
it's
it's
they're
good
Investments
for
the
city.
E
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
Joseph,
and
you
just
mentioned
the
the
alliance
report
and
the
the
idea
of
the
use
of
public
lands
for
affordable
housing
and
particularly
not-for-profit
housing
providers.
I
I
love
the
idea
of
not
just
the
use
of
the
land,
but
perhaps
giving
the
land
or
selling
the
land
for
a
very
low
cost
to
not-for-profit
housing
providers
so
that
they
have
an
asset
to
use
as
leverage
that
they
could.
E
You
know,
use
to
fund
their
Capital
projects,
so
I'm
wondering
and
I'm
guessing
or
you
know,
I'm
not
an
expert
but
I'd
like
to
hear
your
perspective
on
what
your
thoughts
are
on
the
effectiveness
of
that
approach
versus
a
million
dollars
extra
here,
or
a
million
dollars
extra
there
to
build
four
units.
Rather
than
arming
these
organizations
with
the
tools
they
need
to
to
compete
in
that
market
with
for-profit
housing
providers.
N
That's
all
I
I
would
say
that
both
are
needed,
that
obviously
the
land
and
and
giving
the
land
for
for
free
or
for
very
low
cost
or
or
leasing
it
to
non-profit
providers,
would
would
do
a
great
deal
to
enable
them
to
increase
the
supply,
but
at
the
same
time,
for
the
city
to
make
Headway
on
on
its
own
plans.
For
for
for
unit
construction,
there
does
need
to
be.
N
You
know,
due
to
inflation
and
the
high
cost
of
construction,
that
we've
seen
kind
of
at
least
a
doubling
of
the
current
capital
budget
for
affordable
housing
that
it
was
a
16
million
this
year,
but
just
for
it
to
keep
up
with
where
the
plan
currently
is.
That's
why
the
increase
is
is
needed
there.
So
I
would
say
that
both
are
both
would
be
needed
in
order
to
fulfill
the
city's
plans
and
to
to
to
get
that
sort
of
housing
constructed.
B
B
I
Thank
you
very
much
for
being
here
and
thank
you
for
all
the
work
that
went
into
the
housing
accelerator
fund
application.
I
know
that
these
are
tremendously
huge
things
to
work
on
and
I
know.
We
had
some
private
discussions
and
a
conversation,
but
I
just
wanted
to
get
them
on
the
record
and
and
allow
the
rest
of
the
committee
to
hear
some
of
the
conversation.
I
So,
following
the
discussion
that
we
had,
it
was
made
clear
that
staff
would
be
clarifying
the
language
in
the
application
to
stress
the
preferred
nature
of
non-profit
Partnerships
in
terms
of
any
use
of
City
lands
for
housing.
I'm
wondering
if
you
could
clarify
what
changes
are
being
proposed
to
clarify
this
intent.
P
So
chair
before
we
begin,
I
just
want
to
introduce
the
team
in
front
of
committee,
so
we
have
Paul
Levine's
director
of
House
of
services
and
Lauren
Reeves
manager
of
affordable
housing
and
Megan
Brody
is
the
lead
on
our
half
file
and
we
also
have
Peter
Radke
director
of
real
estate
online
as
well.
So
I
think
you
can
ask
Peter
to
interject.
F
Chair
so
I
think
you're
asking
about
clarifying
the
priority
for
not-for-profit
housing,
and
so
in
that
respect,
we're
looking
at
particularly
two
of
the
initiatives,
one
being
the
pipeline
strategy,
and
that
is
where
we
are
targeting
probably
most
of
the
funding
that
we
would
receive.
We
would
like
to
direct
that
to
the
not-for-profit
housing
providers
that
have
shovel
ready
projects
and,
as
you're
aware,
the
city
has
been
funding,
pre-development
work
to
a
number
of
our
housing
providers
over
the
last
several
years
and
Och
as
well.
F
There
are
many
units
that
are
shovel
ready
and
they're
just
waiting
for
Capital
funding
to
to
start
construction.
So
we
think
that
is
probably
the
number
one
priority
for
the
housing
accelerator
funding
and
they
have
their
own
land.
So
the
second
initiative
that
I
think
you
were
referring
to
is
the
vacant
land
strategy
and
with
that
now
we're
looking
at
a
window
where
permits
must
be
issued
by
September
of
2026
and
when
we're
starting
with
vacant
raw
land.
F
F
We
want
to
issue
requests
for
proposals
for
city
land
with
a
and
partner
with
a
not-for-profit
housing
provider,
but
there's
a
another
component
to
to
the
land
strategy
and
that's
what
ocldc
and
the
corporate
real
estate
office
Works
in
there's
just
a
small
component
of
an
opportunity
there
to
achieve
permits
by
2026.
But
perhaps
Peter
would
like
to
speak
to
that.
I
Can
I
just
clarify
my
my
question:
is
more
around
the
criteria
for
disposal
of
public
land
I'm
very
concerned
about
disposal
of
public
land?
So
could
you
explain
to
me
under
what
circumstances
in
this
application
that
you
refer
to
that
public
land
would
be
sold
or
given
to
a
private
developer
versus
a
non-profit
housing.
J
I
can
respond
to
that
Peter
ratchkey,
so
the
application
doesn't
change
anything
that's
in
our
disposal
policy,
so
our
disposal
policy
Remains
the
Same.
So
when
we
look
to
dispose
of
land
we're
going
to
circulate
that
land
internally
through
City
departments
to
make
sure
there
isn't
a
city
need
for
the
lands
at
that
time,
Housing
Services
is
included
in
that
circulation
if
they
put
up
their
hand
to
to
say
this
is
a
a
good
piece
of
property
for
an
affordable
housing
provider.
J
Then
our
process
stops
and
the
lands
essentially
be
get
reserved
to
to
go
through
Lauren's
process.
If,
if
nobody
puts
up
their
hand
for
the
lands,
then
we
do
bring
a
report
forward
to
finance
or
yeah
finance
and
Corporate
Services
committee
and
with
a
report
to
to
ask
me
to
declare
a
surplus
if
the
lands
are
strategic
in
nature,
staff
would
be
recommending
it
go
to
the
Land
Development
Corporation
for
disposal.
If
it's
just
a
general
disposal,
then
the
the
corporate
real
estate
staff
would
dispose
of
it.
So.
I
Thank
you,
okay,
so
I'm
wondering
if
you
could
clarify
to
me
so
you
mentioned
one
of
the
criteria
for
disposing
public
land
to
private
developer,
as
I
read
in
the
application
was
some
sort
of
arrangement
that
25
of
that
land
would
be
used
for
affordable
housing
and
I'm.
Just
wondering
if
you
could
expand
on
the
definition
of
affordability.
F
Chair
I
think
you're
speaking
to
the
land
and
funding
policy,
the
affordable,
affordable
housing,
land
and
funding
policy,
and
in
that
policy,
when
land
is
disposed
of,
Housing
Services
can
request
of
ocldc
to
include
25
of
the
units
as
affordable
housing
where
it's
being
disposed
of
for
residential
purposes,
or
we
could
request
that
we
receive
25
of
the
net
revenues
of
the
sale
which
would
be
directed
into
the
housing
Reserve
fund.
So
it's
an
either
or
scenario
in
terms
of
affordability.
It's.
I
Okay,
so
I
know
we're
referring
to
the
cmhc
definition
of
affordability,
which
is
80
of
median
Market.
Rent
I
just
want
to
state
that
is
not
deep
affordability
by
any
stretch
of
the
imagination
right
now,
a
one
bedroom
apartment
is
going
for
twenty
one
hundred
dollars
in
downtown
Ottawa,
so
eighty
percent
of
that
is
still
completely
unattainable
for
the
folks
in
my
neighborhood
who
are
living
on
fixed
incomes,
what
is
preventing
us
from
demanding
a
deeper
definition
of
affordability
in
those
instances.
M
Thank
you,
Mr
chair,
as
reported
earlier
in
different
conversation,
different
committees.
We
will
be
refreshing
our
10-year
housing
and
homelessness
plan
and
one
of
our
priorities.
We
will
be
to
review
the
definition
of
affordability.
There
are
several
definitions
out
there
and
there's
obviously,
there's
not
100
agreement
of
what
affordability
means
and
in
the
context
of
our
of
our
reality
and,
of
course,
the
different
population
and
different
families
and
their
realities
that
they
face
every
day.
M
I
I'll
just
say:
I
was
at
a
workshop
with
cmhc
last
weekend
at
the
fcm
conference,
where
I
straight
up
told
them
that
their
definition
is
unacceptable
and
that
we
have
a
lot
of
private
developers
that
are
taking
advantage
of
the
sweet,
cmhc
financing
and
not
delivering
affordable
housing.
The
program's
just
not
working
so
I,
wouldn't
I,
look
forward
to
further
conversations,
because
I
understand,
as
each
piece
of
land
is
considered
being
disposed.
That's
something
that
comes
to
us
and
comes
to
council
and
I
would
really
encourage
us
to
have
stronger
guard
rails
around.
I
You
know
ensuring
that
we're
not
so
the
land
is
so
valuable
and
it's
one
of
the
biggest
assets
the
city
has
and
to
quote
Dr
Carolyn
Weitzman,
the
first
rule
of
land
Club
is
don't
sell
the
land,
so
I'm
just
really
worried
about
the
potential
to
sell
off
valuable
city
land
and
to
not
produce
affordable
housing
out
of
it
to
produce
housing,
but
not
the
kind
of
housing.
That's
going
to
help
the
folks
who
are
on
the
wait
list
of
12
000
people
or
in
my
neighborhood
are
really
struggling.
I
So
thank
you
very
much.
Thanks
for
all
of
the
work
on
this
I
look
forward
to
further
conversations
about
you
know,
hopefully,
once
we
receive
HAF
funding,
we
can
have
a
broader
conversation
about
how
to
how
to
stack
some
of
our
programs
to
make
sure
that
we're
employing
the
strongest
definition
of
affordability
possible.
Thank
you.
B
B
Think
the
question
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
understanding
the
question
I
think
what
you're
asserting
is
that
there
should
be
strong
policies
in
place
of
the
city
to
ensure
that
when
land
that
is
suitable
for
residential
development
are
disposed
of,
that
that
go
into
the
hands
of
not-for-profit
Partners
to
the
city,
including
potentially
OCH,
so
that
we
have,
you
know
fairly
guaranteed
deep
affordability
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you've
heard
what
you
need
to
hear
today.
I.
I
P
So
sure,
if
I
can
the
half
application
is
not
finalizing
any
of
the
programs
before
we're
just
framing
all
the
initiatives
that
we
think
we
can
bring
forward,
that
will
increase
housing,
whether
it's
going
to
be
new
permits
or
affordable
housing.
Each
of
these
initiatives
will
have
their
own
stream
to
further
answer
those
those
questions.
So,
in
terms
of
answering
that
question,
I
think
what
Mr
Levine
was
saying
is
that
there's
an
opportunity
for
Council
to
further
refine
the
criteria
for
that
at
a
future
date?
This
is
not
a
part
of
this
application,
so.
B
C
So
heads
up
for
committee
members,
one
of
their
requests
to
council
or
recommendations
to
staff,
I
suppose
is
ask
for
more
money
and
they
point
out.
There's
no
dollar
value
in
the
memo,
so
I'm
curious
as
part
of
the
application.
Are
we
going
to
be
asking
for
a
specific
dollar
amount,
I'm,
just
not
sure
what
the
mechanics
are
of
of
how
we
apply
and
what's
included
there.
Q
Yes,
through
you
Mr
chair,
we,
we
absolutely
will
be
requesting
a
specific
dollar
amount.
The
fund
itself
is
four
billion
dollars
and
that's
split
across
every
municipality
in
Canada.
That
has
the
opportunity
to
apply.
So
it
is
a
finite
amount
and
ultimately,
we
won't
know
how
much
we
receive
until
after
our
application
is
evaluated.
So
we
can
apply
for
as
much
as
we'd
like
and
we're
trying
our
best
to
optimize
our
eligibility,
but
cmhc
does
have
the
discretion
to
cut
that
back.
Q
In
accordance
with
you
know,
the
finite
dollar
amount
that
they
have
and
the
number
of
applications
they
receive
and
the
strength
of
those
applications.
So
we
will
be
including
an
actual
dollar
figure
right
now,
we're
looking
at
applying
for
at
least
150
to
200
million
dollars,
I'm
hoping
to
shoot
for
more,
but
ultimately,
cmhc
will
has
the
discretion
to
cut
us
back.
Q
They
do
and
that
formula
really
shaped
our
application.
It's
how
we
selected
initiatives
and
framed
our
assumptions.
It's
how
we
selected
the
definition
of
affordability
that
we
did
for
the
purpose
of
the
application,
because
it
all
worked
together
to
optimize
the
amount
of
funding
that
we
would
be
able
to
request.
Okay,.
C
Well,
I'll,
let
go
the
advice
of
the
alliance,
which
is
I'd,
encourage
staff
to
be
as
bold
and
as
as
ambitious
as
possible,
both
to
reflect
the
absolute
pressing
need
that
we
have
in
the
city,
but
also
that
we
are
a
city,
that's
committed
and
ambitious
and
wants
to
wants
to
achieve
our
goals
and
really
make
a
difference
on
this.
So
the
other
question
I
had
was
I
know:
we've
had
this
as
counselors
for
about
a
week
and
a
half.
P
P
The
purpose
of
that
was
to
maximize
the
funding
that
we
get,
and
so
through
the
future
programs.
Council
can
take
that
the
funding
that
we
get,
that
we
maximize
and
then
allocates
to
more
finer
tuned
tiers
of
affordable,
affordable
housing.
So
that
was
the
reason
why
we
had
that
our
average
Market
rent
set
as
the
affordable
Target
there
was
feedback
on
the
use
of
city-owned
lands
and
what
are
the
policies
for
that
and
again
that
we
just
discussed.
P
P
What
are
the
precise
measurements
so
cmhc
in
a
lot
of
the
common
the
delegations
and
the
the
information
we've
seen
from
the
nonprofit
sector?
We
agree
with
all
of
those
ideas
just
the
purpose
of
this
application,
though
it
is
very
specific
to
net
new
building
permits
by
September
1
2026,
and
if
it
cannot
be
measured
in
terms
of
that,
then
we
will
not
get
funding
so
everything
we
have
to
do
within
three
year
window.
P
The
application
is
tied
to
that.
So
a
lot
of
the
ideas
that
we've
received,
they're
great
ideas,
but
just
in
terms
of
how
to
move
forward
and
process
those
those
would
probably
be
permits
after
2026,
which
is
why
we
did
not
include
in
the
application,
doesn't
mean
we're
not
working
on
them,
and
so
that
is
we.
So
we
received
a
lot
of
good
ideas
on
including
other
initiatives
within
the
application.
P
R
Thank
you,
I'm
I'm,
not
sure
if
this
is
helpful,
but
I
I
wanted
to
share
like
a
council
trust
or
some
of
the
conversations
I've
had
with
staff
behind
the
scenes
as
well,
so
that
this
is
so
everyone's
clear
on.
What's
going
on,
I
sat
on
a
federal
grants
committee
before
and
handed
out
millions
of
dollars
and
I
sat
on
the
Ottawa
Community
Foundation
grants
committee
for
seven
years,
and
so
some
of
my
comments
to
staff
have
been
about
the
application
right.
R
So
there's
four
billion
dollars
to
get
the
people
that
have
the
best
applications
will
get
the
money,
and
that's
it's
as
simple
as
that
and
and
speaking
to
some
of
the
MPS
locally.
Their
comment
to
me
always
is
your
application
better,
be
good
and
that's
as
much
as,
if
I
as
a
piece
of
good
advice
as
they
give
us,
because
the
application
is
the
key.
R
So
at
the
auto
committee
Foundation,
we
have
very
clear
requests
for
what
your
application
needs
to
have
in
it,
and
we've
heard
that
today,
right,
it
has
to
be
net
new,
has
to
be
permits
by
2026
right
so
putting
something
in
there
that
doesn't
have.
That
means
that
your
application
looks
terrible.
There
are
application
that
we
saw
at
the
federal
provincial
Grant
committee
that
was
on
that
immediately
did
not
meet
the
criteria,
so
immediately
just
go
into
the
zero
dollar
category.
That's
what
actually
happens
in
these
meetings.
R
You
have
conversations
where
you
can
tell
that
the
application
met
the
criteria,
because
the
applicant
worked
with
the
grantor
right,
so
we
are
working
with
cmhc.
That's
the
smartest
move
in
town
with
the
people
that
get
money
at
Lotto,
Community
Foundation
work
with
the
staff
of
the
Ottawa
Community
Foundation
throughout
their
whole
application.
So
the
fact
that
we're
doing
that
already
will
set
us
apart
if
other
municipalities
aren't
doing
that.
R
The
other
thing
I
will
say
is
that
the
things
that
we
always
look
for
in
Grants
is
that
there
are
clear
financials
so,
for
example,
a
municipality
that
put
in
an
application.
That
said,
oh
well,
this
this
is
going
to
cost
us
about
twenty
thousand
dollars.
They
would
not
get
funding
the
application
that
came
in.
That
was
very
specific.
That
said,
this
application,
this
project
will
cost
us.
18
946.22
was
a
an
application.
We
looked
more
carefully
at
because
it
was
clear
that
the
financials
were
thought
through.
R
There
wasn't
just
a
round
number
that
was
thrown
out.
The
financials
are
gone
through
by
a
Financial
expert
and
already
marked
as
legit
or
not
legit.
So
that
is
a
big
marker
that
it
has
to
actually
follow
what
your
financials
you
submit
have
in
them
actually
match
exactly
what
you're
going
to
say.
All
of
that
is
checked.
R
The
other
thing
that
is
a
hundred
percent
important
is
that
all
of
the
projects
are
as
shovel
ready
as
they
can
be.
Shovel
ready
is
the
number
one
project,
so
you
know
I
I
hear
absolutely
what
we
would
like
to
see
and
what
we
would
like
to
have
happen.
But
the
shovel
ready
projects
get
the
money
for
two
reasons:
number
one,
because
the
federal
government
in
this
case
would
want
to
be
able
to
cut
a
ribbon
soon
and
say,
look
at
what
we
did
right.
R
So
that's
that's
not
necessarily
their
number
one,
but
that
I'm
listing
that
as
there's
number
one,
it
has
to
be
shovel
ready.
They
also
want
to
see
a
pipeline
so
that
you
know
you
can't
take
on
all
projects
right
as
soon
as
the
application
as
soon
as
the
money
is
given
right
so
that
there
would
be
a
regular
pipeline
that
would
be
achievable.
So
that
has
to
be
clear
in
the
application
and
the
government
understands
the
time
value
of
money
right.
R
So,
if
they're
going
to
give
this
money
now-
and
none
of
your
projects
are
going
to
come
to
fruition
until
2026,
they
know
you're-
probably
not
even
going
to
achieve
what
you
wanted
to
achieve.
So
you
have
to
demonstrate
that
you
understand
the
time
value
of
money
for
this
money
that
you
get
all
that
matters
is
what's
in
your
application,
so
people
in
in
the
room
like
I
experience,
you
sit
around
and
you
go
through
all
these
things
did
this
application
meet
this
criteria,
this
criteria,
this
criteria?
R
R
The
other
is
the
bang
for
the
buck
right.
So
we
always
look
at
how
many
people
will
this
impact
right,
so
maybe
a
great
project
if
there's
five
units?
Well,
maybe
another
municipality
has
something
the
same
thing,
but
it's
200
units.
So
these
are
the
types
of
things
that
are
looked
at.
You
know
I,
understand
to
many
of
the
comments
here.
R
What
we
would
like
to
see
and
what
we
want
to
promote
and
what's
important
to
us,
but
in
order
to
get
the
money
you
have
to
do
that
they
set
out
a
number
of
webinars
that
applicants
are
to
watch.
They
don't
do
that
for
no
reason.
If
you
watch
the
webinars,
it's
like
a
road
map
to
success,
and
so
my
understanding
from
staff
is,
they
watched
all
the
webinars
very
carefully
they're
working
with
cmhc.
They
understand
all
the
rules.
R
That's
what
I'm
hearing
today
so
I
have
lots
of
confidence
that
our
application
will
be
good.
I
tell
you.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
you
made
the
comment
at
the
beginning:
it's
canada-wide!
What
we
had
to
do
for
our
Ontario
portion
was
make
sure
that
it
was
spread
across
Ontario
adequately
because
remember
there
are
MPS
that
want
to
be
doing
that
ribbon,
cutting
so
an
MP
in
Northern,
Ontario
Northern
Quebec
also
wants
some
money
for
the
municipality.
They
take
that
into
consideration.
R
Sadly,
not
only
the
application
so
you're
up
against
a
lot
of
things
when
you,
when
you
submit
your
application,
but
from
what
I'm
hearing.
If,
if
we
have
all
of
those
things
in
our
application-
and
it
sounds
like
we
do,
I
think
we
will
we're
on
the
right
track
so
anyway,
thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
make
those
comments
so
that
those
are
the
comments
I've
been
making
behind
the
scenes.
S
Thank
you,
I
kind
of
want
to
build
on
some
of
the
comments
that
counselor
trusts
or
made
a
little
earlier
about
the
definition
of
affordability
and
I.
Believe
you
had
mentioned.
There's
a
report
coming
that
kind
of
refreshes
that
a
little
bit
I
think
it's
fair
to
assume
that
it's
going
to
community
services
committee,
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
and
then
what
is
the
timeline
for
that
roughly.
M
O
Thank
you,
chair,
I,
guess,
I
guess.
The
the
affordability
is
is
the
big
question
and
we
know
what
deep
affordability
is
and
frankly,
I
think
that
governments
are
responding
to
that.
We
just
saw
that
with
the
case
of
us
not
getting
funding
and
then
Ottawa
Community
Housing
having
a
project
that
is
actually
in
Pros
progress,
getting
getting
the
attention
of
the
Ontario
government,
which
was
mckennach,
and
that
was
something
that
was
showed
exactly
what
they
should
be
doing.
So
it's
they
can
take
some
credit
for
it.
O
So
I
I
can
see
the
points
of
counselor
Curry,
because
that's
exactly
what's
needed
and
Och
gets
that
very
much
and
is
ready
to
be
right
there
and
it's
for
deep,
affordable
though
we
are
doing
mixed,
so
I
hope
to
see
that
continue.
I
appreciate
in
the
report,
you
talk
about
some
areas
of
the
transit-oriented
development,
particularly
around
Queensview
Pinecrest,
which
is
which
are
new
areas
that
have
not
been
developed
before
and
we
have
City
owned
land
there,
which
we
are
now
currently
leasing
to
police
services.
O
J
I
I
can
speak
to
the
you
know:
the
Queens
view
land
so
you're,
correct.
The
police
do
have
control
that
land
right
now
and
we
will
be
in
discussions
with
them
about
the
future
of
that.
It's
not
a
a
lease
per
se.
We
don't
lease
land
to
other,
you
know
sort
of
city
groups,
but
we
do
have
an
arrangement
with
them
where
they
they
utilize
that
that
building.
So
that's
something
we'll
be
discussing
with
them
in
the
coming
weeks.
O
You
know
we
build
100
units,
but
if
they're,
all
very
small,
we
haven't
accomplished
the
needs
of
families
which
I
I'm
always
concerned
about.
So
how
can
we
differentiate
that
so
that
we
can
show
that
we're
helping
larger
numbers
of
people
actually,
and
it
is
families
that
tend
to
be
in
the
most
need
these
days.
P
Soldier
on
on
that
specific
differentiation
of
dwellings,
cmhc
application
does
differentiate
between
dwelling
types,
but
it's
not
by
dwelling
sizes.
So
it
speaks
to
units
that
are
missing:
minimum
type
of
housing,
multi-units
outside
of
Transit
and
multi-unit
within
Transit.
So
staff
have
been
working
on
providing
estimates
within
within
those
categories
because
those
categic
categories
that
ultimately
have
funding
tied
to
them.
O
Okay,
thank
you
anyway.
I
hope
we
have
some
targets
of
our
of
our
own,
that
that
show
that
we're.
You
know
whether
it's
in
their
definition
of
X
number
of
units
that
are
family
units
versus
the
smaller
units
which
are
needed
to
we.
We
need
seniors
units
and
seniors
buildings
actually
and
and
I
hope.
O
I
Q
Thank
you
chair,
so
nothing
is
truly
preventing
us
from
from
asking
for
more
money.
We
are
trying
to
be
as
realistic
as
possible
in
our
projections.
Obviously
we
do
need
to
report
back
to
cmhc
annually,
including
building
permit
numbers,
so
we'll
need
to
be
able
to
say
these
are
the
following:
building
permits
we
issued
in
the
past
year
and
which
initiative
they
fall
under.
Q
So
we
will
have
a
requirement
to
show
that
we're
making
progress
towards
our
original
projections,
and
if
we
don't
make
that
progress,
if
we're
really
far
away
from
me
reaching
those
projections,
then
our
funding
is
compromised.
It
hasn't
come
up
yet,
but
we
do
receive
our
funding
in
25
installments
annually
and
that
last
installment
is
compromised.
I
P
Yeah
Jared
I
mean
that
last
point
from
the
counselors.
A
really
good
point:
there's
a
lot
of
things
outside
of
the
role
of
municipalities
to
to
move
those
permits
forward,
so
we'd
all
have
to
be
working
together
and
all
things
being
equal.
We
could
try
to
influence
that,
but
there
are
some
bigger
things
out
there,
such
as
interest
rates
and
labor
market,
and
we
all
know
that
from
the
housing
project
that
also
come
into
play
that
we
have
to
think
about
as
well.
I
F
Chair
the
the
heart
tool
is
expected
to
be
employed
through
our
housing.
What's
called
needs
assessment,
housing
needs
assessment
report
which
will
proceed.
The
10-year
housing
and
homelessness
plan
review
refresh
the
housing
needs
assessment
report
is
also
a
requirement
of
the
half
application
and
it
is
required
by.
Q
F
L
P
So
chair
I
just
would
echo
my
earlier
comments
that
that's
something
that
Council
would
look
at
when
staff
brings
forward
those
applications.
Those
initiatives,
such
as
the
affordable
housing
pipeline
strategy
and
the
city-owned
land
strategy
to
to
look
at
what
are
the
mechanisms
that
we
can
do
to
Fast
Track
those
applications,
but
wouldn't
be
something
we
identify
as
part
of
the
half
application.
B
All
right,
thank
you
very
much
to
colleagues
for
some
appointed
questions
on
the
the
memo
that
received
staff.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
know
we
keep
hauling
you
in
front
of
the
committee
to
talk
about
some
of
these
issues,
but
it
is
I
think
indicative
of
the
the
clear
priority
that
this
committee
is
placing
in
this
term
of
Council
on
getting
a
lot
of
new,
particularly
deeply
affordable
housing
builds.
So
thank
you
for
coming
and
answering
our
questions.
I
believe
I,
don't
believe,
there's
any
action
to
take
out
of
that.
B
We've
simply
received
that
for
information,
so
I'm
going
to
move
on
through
the
last
bit
of
the
agenda.
There
was
an
information
piece
that
was
previously
distributed
with
respect
to
the
reserve
appointment
to
the
committee
of
adjustment,
I
think
that
was
panel
one
we
needed
to
go
to
a
reserve
member
notice.
His
emotion,
counselor
Hill
has
a
notice
of
motion
which,
because
he's
not
part
of
this
awesome
committee,
we've
had
to
ask
councilor
Gower
to
move
on
his
behalf.
Please.
C
Yeah
so
on
behalf
of
councilor
Hill,
whereas
the
new
official
plan
designates
designates
the
land
3809
borsokane
Road
as
industrial
and
Logistics,
and
whereas
these
lands
have
direct
access
to
Municipal
services
and
whereas
baravan
and
Rural
South
Ottawa
would
significantly
benefit
from
additional
economic
activity.
Should
the
exclusion
lands
begin
development
and
whereas
it
is
important
to
create
Economic
Development
opportunities,
especially
ones
that
are
within
walking
and
biking
distance
of
residents.
C
Whereas
the
new
official
plan
includes
item
5.6.2.110
prescribes
these
lands
be
included
in
the
CDP
for
the
residential
expansion
lands
to
the
South
and
that
the
development
of
these
lands
cannot
proceed
until
the
CDP
and
Associated
Studies
have
been
approved
and
where
a
staff
have
identified
that
future
development
of
these
lands
may
be
influenced
by
the
need
for
water,
main
looping
or
enhanced
infiltration
of
storm
water.
Therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
Council
staff
be
directed
I.
Think
that's
Council.
B
G
Yes,
thank
you
chair.
This
is
seeking
information
regarding
the
number
of
approved
applications
that
did
not
include
a
traffic
impact
Assessments
in
my
ward.
So
the
questions
are
as
follows:
how
many
planning
applications
were
approved
within
Ward
19,
Orleans,
South
Navan
between
October
2018
and
may
2023,
and
that's
the
newly
configured
version
that
includes
land
that
used
to
reside
in
Ward
2
Ennis?
How
many
applications
were
approved
without
a
comprehensive
traffic
impact
assessment
due
to
the
application
not
meeting
the
traffic
impact
assessment
threshold
trigger
three?
G
What
is
the
total
number
of
parking
spots
approved
within
the
list
of
developments
mentioned
above?
What
would
be
the
approximate
cumulative
peak
hour
am
morning
trips
that
have
resulted
from
the
approved
developments
and
what
would
be
the
approximate
cumulative
peak
hour
PM
afternoon
evening,
trips
that
have
resulted
from
the
approved
developments.
Thank
you.