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Planning Committee meeting – May 10, 2016 – Audio Stream
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A
Okay,
welcome
everybody.
This
is
a
public
meeting
to
consider
the
proposed
comprehensive
official
plan
and
zoning
bylaw
amendments
listed
as
items
one
and
three
on
today's
agenda
for
the
items
listed
above.
Only
those
who
make
all
submissions
today
or
written
submissions
before
the
amendments
are
adopted
me
at
feel
the
matter
to
the
interior
municipal
board.
In
addition,
the
applicant
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
interior
municipal
board.
A
Confirmation
of
minutes,
councilor
vapor,
was
saying
he
hasn't
had
a
day
off
in
three
weeks
and
it's
starting
to
show
early
in
the
planning
committee.
So
no
nothing
so
carried
on
the
confirmation
of
the
minutes
from
April
the
25th
yeah
Carrie.
Then
we
have
communications.
We
have
a
response
to
inquiries.
Cco
216,
bird-friendly
development
guidelines
is
that
we
don't
even
have
to
receive
it,
I,
don't
think
post,
Pullman's
and
deferrals.
We
have
again
before
us.
The
zoning
bylaw
amendment
part
of
980
Earl,
Armstrong
Road
and
we
do
have
miss
Jarvis
is
here.
A
If
anyone
has
any
questions
on
this
item,
does
anyone
have
any
questions?
Well
we're
ready
to
go
with
this
one.
Then
mr.
Harris,
do
you
need
to
speak
if,
if
they're
ready
to
carry
it?
Okay,
thank
you
so
on
the
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
a
part
of
980
Earl,
Armstrong
Road,
is
that
Carrie.
Thank
you
very
much.
So
thanks
for
your
patience
on
this
one,
we
also
have
a
motion
to
send
this
one
to
Council.
Tomorrow,
yeah.
B
C
D
B
A
Kari.
Thank
you.
Okay
item
number.
Two
is
Leitrim
and
related
stormwater
matters.
Anyone
have
any
questions.
Is
it
Carrie?
Thank
you
item
number
three.
Is
the
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
283
Sussex
Avenue?
We
do
have
speakers
so
we'll
hold
that
one
number
four
is
the
status
update,
Planning,
Committee,
increase
and
motions
for
the
period
ending
29
April
2016
anybody
questions?
Is
it
Carrie?
There
was
stories
that
received.
Thank
you.
Taken
urban
residential
land
survey
is
number
5.
2015
update
we're
asking
to
receive
this
good
information.
Thank
you,
mr.
cross.
A
If
you're
in
the
room,
councillor
cootchie
said
it's
a
nice-looking
report,
inventory
vacant,
industrial
and
business
parkland
update
site
of
number
6
and
we're
asking
to
receive
that,
and
that
course
may
be
affected
impacted
by
the
employment
land
review,
which
will
be
coming
to
planning
committee
in
September.
We're
hoping
does
that
received
the
annual
development
report.
If
you
had
a
chance
to
look
at
that
question,
okay,
we'll
hold
that
and
we'll
hold
number,
because
mr.
Mizzy
is
going
to
do
a
very
unique
presentation.
First
of
its
kind.
A
So
last
week
we
had
the
first
webinar,
which
is
unbelievable
and
even
saying
we
had
the
first
webinar
because
obviously,
but
in
you
know
you
would
think
that
would
have
happened
before.
But
now
we
have
a
very
kind
of
unique
presentation.
It's
going
to
be
he's
going
to
be
speaking,
but
you
need
to
watch
the
screen
for
it
because
he
won't
be
speaking
to
the
screen
and
you're
gonna.
Like
it.
Sorry.
A
A
There
really
isn't
anything
new
that
came
out
of
that,
so
I've
there's
just
a
kind
of
like
a
minor
thing
and
so
with
information
on
a
website
that
sort
of
thing
so
mister
Mizzy
is
either
going
to
just
speak
on
it
for
a
minute
now
or
he'll,
just
send
out
a
brief
note
on
it
to
everybody.
What
would
you
prefer
notice?
Fine,
okay,
all
right,
so
you
get
that
in
the
next
few
days,
but
clearly
there's
nothing
for
us
to
actually
have.
You
know
be
engaged
in
at
this
point.
A
A
A
F
Good
morning
my
name
is
Katherine
McDonald
I'm,
a
member
of
the
board
of
directors
for
Carleton
CCC
on
number
151
condominium
corporation
on
Butler
Street,
near
the
location
of
the
proposed
building.
We
received
notice
of
this
application
as
members
of
the
condo
corporation
and
filed
an
objection
I'm
going
to
speak
on
a
little
more
broad
issue,
and
then
my
colleague
will
follow
with
some
more
substantive
points.
F
Governments
are
expected
to
act
in
good
faith
and
in
the
public
interest
when
passing
bylaws
they're
expected
to
provide
information
to
the
public
as
to
whom
and
what
is
affected
by
the
proposed
change.
This
principle
of
transparency
and
full
disclosure
also
applies
to
bylaw
amendments,
including
the
zoning
bylaw
amendment
before
the
committee
today.
The
zoning
bylaw
amendment
proposal
summary
in
this
application
is
seriously
flawed,
so
many
states
that
the
application
is
to
add
an
office
use
to
the
site
with
a
reduction
in
required
parking
to
zero.
F
F
C
Lepidus
now
make
sure
they
can
say
ye.
It's
a
pleasure
and
much
appreciated
to
have
this
opportunity
to
speak
to
you
more
to
follow
up
on
and
to
get
more
detail
based
on
what
my
colleague
is
just
presented.
The
the
even
the
last
summary
talks
about
the
fact
that
the
proposed
rezoning
affects
a
building
on
the
edge
of
heritage
designation.
C
C
There's
got
to
be
major
reasons
why
we
would
allow
non
respect
of
that
designation
beyond
the
fact
that
it's
to
accommodate
the
NCC
in
something
relating
to
the
rental
of
property
to
well
a
lawyer's
office
and
the
fact
that
it's
lawyer's
office-
it's
not
a
contention
here
whatever
that
lawyer
is
whoever
that
lawyer
is
the
the
other
thing
too,
is
that
for
all
intents
and
purposes
there
is
no
parking
available
there.
Cathcart
Street
is
a
one-way
from
Sussex
and
it's
occupied
by
parking
for
people
who
work
or
visit
something
zebediah.
C
Okay,
so
there's
no
parking
there
that's
really
available
Bolton.
We
just
had
the
addition
of
an
apartment
building
at
the
corner
of
Peres
and
Bolton,
so
there
was
all
built
a
building
there.
No,
we
didn't
yet
there's
23
units
that
are
going
to
be
there.
The
parking
inside
the
building
is
less
than
23
I
forget
what
it
is.
It's
11
part
nice
power
spots
where
the
visitor
is
going
to
be,
and-
and
so
why
is
this
being
done
without
knowing
now
we
were
asked?
C
Do
you
agree
with
three
as
opposed
to
the
zero
that
was
initially
that
we
don't
know
if
we
agree
with
three,
because
we
don't
know
how
many
people
are
going
to
work
in
that
lawyer's
office?
We
don't
know
how
many
visitors
they
will
have
all
the
time
it
could
be.
The
two
would
suffice.
It
may
be
that
seven
is
regarded,
which
is
what
the
bylaw
says,
I
suppose.
C
My
last
comment
is
going
to
be
with
the
fact
that
to
build
upon
the
fact
that
this
one
has
not
been
a
very
transparent
process,
the
construction
is
finished
live-reef.
They
finished
the
construction
for
office
use.
If
you
walk
at
the
corner
of
Cathcart
and
Sussex,
you
see
that,
for
all
intents
and
purposes,
there's
just
a
little
bit
of
work
left
to
do
so
before
anybody.
You
know
before
this
very
year
should.
A
C
G
Maybe
took
the
committee's
interest
that
if
the
application
was
across
the
street,
the
parking
requirement
would
be
three
spaces,
because
the
parking
rate
changes
across
the
street
from
Sussex
Drive.
So
it's
right
along
the
boundary
of
the
parking
rate
changes.
For
this
reason,
the
department
felt
it
was
a
reasonable
request
to
seek.
A
I
go
to
my
colleagues
around
the
table.
That's
what
if
they
have
any
questions,
do
you
have
any
questions
so
far?
Okay,
so
therefore,
I
just
have
another
question.
The
comment
that
this
was
maybe
getting
special
favor,
because
it's
an
NCC
application
is
that
at
any
time,
a
factor
into
your
decision.
A
A
D
C
Part
of
the
impact,
of
course,
is
that
there
will
be
more
traffic.
Second
impact
is
that
people
are
driving
around
looking
for
parking
and
there
will
be
additional
parking
requirements
just
at
the
corner
of
town
Bolton,
which
is
just
across
the
street
from
our
unit
for
our
units.
It's
just
across
the
street,
we're
at
the
corner
of
what
do
ye
sorry,
Butler
and
Bolton
and
Bolton
is
that
is
our
back
yard.
So
it's
all
impacted.
You
try
to
park
anywhere
around
there
during
the
daytime.
It's
not
possible
that
people
are
forever
seeking
parking
spots.
A
D
So
I
think
that's
a
fair
comment
that
our
delegation
has
made
what
is
sort
of
a
happy,
medium
or
happy
balance
in
this
case,
this
is
a
congested
and
built-up
area.
Do
we
know
the
type
of
law
firm?
Is
this
a
fair
question
to
ask
publicly
about
who
the
tenant
may
be
and
the
type
of
expected
volume
of
visitors
or
traffic
that
this
office
might
generate
to
determine
whether
or
not
they're
sufficient
parking
space
for
this
office.
A
G
B
C
Was
a
substance
of
the
information
that
we
were
contesting?
We
did
receive
by
mail,
the
notice
which,
as
Katherine
explained,
was
really
flawed
in
terms
of
the
substance
of
the
information
that
was
provided
where
we,
we
were
not
told
that
there
were
supposed
to
be
seven
parking
spots.
Initially,
we
were
just
told
it
will
be
reduced
to
zero
and
at
that
they
anticipated
two.
So
the
number
two
was
used,
but
not
the
number
seven.
So
it
really
was
hard
for
us
to
find
out
what
this
was
all
about.
Sir,
so.
B
G
Chair,
yes,
the
standard
procedures
were
followed
in
this
instance,
as
required
by
the
Planning.
Act
of
sign
was
posted
on
the
property.
Our
properties
within
120
meters
were
circulated
and
notice
was
provided
to
all
those
that
had
commented
commented
on
the
application,
and
we
advised
of
the
meeting
today
that.
H
D
You,
madam
chair,
the
understanding
is
that
there
were
certain
structural
work
that
had
to
be
done
regardless
of
the
tenant
fit
up
in
the
building,
but
there
was
no
building
permits
issued
specific
to
the
office
use.
So
there
was
some
work
that
was
able
to
proceed
that
had
to
occur
whether
it
was
an
office
or
residential
use,
and
that's
what
the
permit
was
limited
to
and
was.
H
D
A
A
Welcome
does
anyone
have
any
question.
Thank
you
for
coming
out
today.
Does
anyone
have
any
questions
for
the
NCC
on
the
move
of
the
law
office
from
their
current
property
to
to
this
property,
which
is
part
of
the
proposal?
No
well.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thanks
for
walking
down
it's
a
more
difficult
walk
back
up.
Thank
you.
A
B
I
A
You,
the
2017,
is
one
of
the
four
criteria
that
we
can
use
and,
if
you
recall,
seven
Clarence
Street
and
all
that's
to
happen
there,
that
is
going
to
be
quite
the
unique
place
during
canvas
hundred
and
fiftieth
birthday.
Okay,
thank
you
so
on
the
going
to
council
tomorrow
is
that
carried?
Thank
you
so
on
number
8
2015
planning
a
growth
management
department,
year-end
report,
as
I
said,
we
really
want
you
to
put
your
eyes
to
the
screen
and
you're
going
to
see
something.
A
D
H
Good
morning,
I'm
going
to
share
with
you
some
of
the
highlights
from
the
department's
2015
annual
report
using
a
new
story
map
that
we
created
in-house
working
with
each
of
our
branches.
We
wanted
to
create
something
innovative
this
year
that
reached
a
wider
audience
as
I
speak
and
you
watch
the
screen.
My
colleagues
Esther
Perel
and
Geraldine
Wildmon
next
to
me
will
scroll
through
the
annual
report
last
year,
development
review
services
reviewed
over
1,200
different
planning
applications
conducted
thousands
of
inspections
and
issued
many
rural
community
grants.
H
We
had
many
major
developments
approved
in
2015
that
will
shape
the
city
for
years
to
come,
including
all
Blake's
Zibby
and
the
Hazeldine
subdivision.
A
number
of
major
projects
recognizing
the
heritage
value
of
different
neighborhoods
were
also
completed
last
year.
This
map
lets
you
navigate
through
the
different
heritage
conservation
districts
throughout
the
city.
H
H
Our
business
services
branch
improved
our
outreach
to
the
public
with
over
5,000
people
attending
consultations.
We
also
redesigned
our
circulation
packages
to
make
them
easier
to
understand
the
building
code
services
branch
issued
over
9,000
different
types
of
permits
and
conducted
over
90,000
inspections
last
year.
H
We
also
use
some
in-house
talent
for
one
of
our
Zoning
projects
to
create
the
city's
most
watched,
video.
Another
way
that
we
are
engaging
the
community
and
setting
new
precedence,
I
encourage
everyone
to
take
time
and
visit
our
annual
report
on
ottawa.
Ca
tools
like
these
not
only
help
to
showcase
our
compliments
with
a
wider
audience,
but
also
remind
us
all
to
build
on
these
successes
and
plan
the
best
city
possible
on
behalf
the
department
we
look
forward
to
working
with
everyone
here
today
on
a
successful
2016.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
mr.
Mazzy,
and
thank
you
staff
that
helped
pull
this
together
and
I
liked
it
very
much
it's
just
for
your
information,
we're
going
to
add
it
to
the
banner
on
the
city's
website.
Main
website.
I.
Think
mr.
dare
said
later
this
afternoon
and
tomorrow
and
up
there,
so
that
people
can
access
that.
I.
A
Think
that
it's
something
that
you
will
really
like
to
use
with
your
community
associations,
it's
another
one
of
those
things
that
we're
doing
and
engaging
and
communicating
with
our
and
connecting
with
our
community
associations
and
and
residents
across
the
city,
it's
another
tool
that
they
have,
which
would
be
way
easier
to
understand
and
to
use.
And
hopefully
you
know
in
areas
where
we
don't
traditionally
have
a
lot
of
people
that
are
engaged
we'll,
be
able
to
get
involved.
You
know
I
mean
often
we
have
in
the
suburbs.
A
We
have
subdivisions
plans
and
that
that
nobody
comments
on
because
nobody
lives
there
and
then,
as
time
goes
on
and
you're
and
things
come
to
play.
You
go
wait
a
minute.
How
did
that
happen
and
that
sort
of
thing
so
I
think
it
will
be
an
opportunity
for
people
to
get
connected
and,
as
you
know,
last
week
we
had
our
first
building
better
connections
form
here,
which
is
very
well
attended
and
a
lot
of
people
using
the
webinar,
and
it's
just
a
different
way
of
reaching
out
to
the
people
in
our
city.
E
You,
madam
chair
last
year,
when
this
report
came
forward,
I
had
asked
a
question
about
the
standard.
Should
the
standards
be
changed
because
we're
clearly
not
even
getting
close
to
meeting
them?
I
look
at
the
the
target
for
site
plan
control
for
a
manager
delegated
with
public
consultation
and
we're
only
meeting
the
target.
33
percent
of
the
time
I
noticed
that
we
needed
64
percent
of
the
time
if
it's
delegated
to
staff
and
they
even
have
the
shorter
timeframe.
So
I'm
just
wondering
what's
the
changes
that
mr.
E
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Yes
counselor,
you
did
raise
this
issue
last
year
and,
while
those
statistics
look
low,
relatively
speaking,
there's
been
an
improvement
over
the
last
three
years.
In
almost
all
our
categories,
we
have
actually
improved
the
timelines,
but
structurally
there
is
a
problem
with
these
timelines.
They
were
created
15
years
ago,
and
the
world
of
planning
processing
has
changed
dramatically
in
those
15
years.
For
example,
we
have
new
legislative
requirements
that
require
us
to
circulate
our
plans
more
broadly
into
more
contact
points.
H
There
is
an
urban
design
review
panel
that
adds
time
to
the
process,
but
it
also
adds
a
qualitative
element
to
our
planning
review
and
the
nature
of
community
consultation
has
changed.
My
suggestion
is
that
the
timeline
targets
do
need
to
be
amended
to
be
more
reflective
of
realistic
targets
in
the
year
2016.
So
is.
E
That
are
you
saying
that
you're
going
to
do
that,
like
we're
all
recognizing
that
that's
a
problem,
we
all
recognize
that
was
the
problem.
Last
year,
I'm
not
seeing
what's
been
done
from
last
year
this
year
to
make
a
difference,
our
granted
you're,
showing
a
4%
improvement.
You
have
increased
from
29
percent
to
33.
Congratulations,
but
there's
a
long
way
to
go
when
you
refer
to
the
changes
I've
taken
place
over
the
last
15
years.
That
effect
these
timelines.
E
You
can
also
now
do
your
circulation
by
email
instead
of
by
AK
snail
mail,
so
that
should
help
we
can
do
public
consultation
over
websites
and
and
use
social
media
to
do
that.
That
should
be
helping
you
with
your
timelines,
so
I'm
wondering
when
the
committee
will
see
a
package,
that's
going
to
see
us
either
reach
these
standards
or
else
the
committee
look
at
the
standards
and
change
them.
H
Madam
chair,
we
have
actually
done
an
assessment
of
the
timeline
targets
comparing
the
last
few
years.
Certainly
I'm
quite
prepared
to
bring
back
that
in
for
me
to
this
committee.
If
the
committee
wishes,
like
I,
said,
our
suggestion
is
that
we
do
give
some
consideration
to
a
revised
timeline
target
which
is
more
reflective
of
today's
reality.
H
You
quote
a
number
of
ways
that
we
could
improve
the
process
and
we're
all
and
we
are
moving
down
that
path
of
more
electronic
or
computer
or
web-based
approaches
to
dealing
with
our
processing.
There
are
different
ways
to
outreach.
As
the
chair
mentioned
last
we
last
week
we
had
our
first
webinar.
Nonetheless,
overall
the
process
is
still
lengthier
than
it
was
15
years
ago
because
of
newer
requirements.
H
Second
I
should
add
is
that
the
nature
of
applications
has
changed
over
the
years
and
last
year
in
particular,
the
level
of
complexity
and
the
size
of
individual
applications
has
changed.
Think
of
the
old
blades
project.
Think
of
rock
cliff
Canada
forces
base.
Think
of
ZB.
We
will
soon
get
labret.
These
are
very
big,
complex
projects
that
aren't
easily
processed
within
the
timeline
targets
that
were
set
15
years
ago.
E
I
E
Is
when
the
part
said
I
personally
experienced
and
hearing
from
other
counselors,
it
can
be
an
issue,
certainly
different
results
across
the
city.
So
it
tells
me
there's
something
within
the
department
that's
taking
place
here.
Is
it
like?
You
have
X
number
of
days
for
the
planners
to
review
the
files
and
so
on,
but
we
don't
have
any
timelines
for
engineering
review
and
for
many
it's
considered
a
black
hole
when
it
goes
into
engineering
review.
E
Now,
when
I've
talked
to
staff,
I'll
often
hear
that
they're
getting
incomplete
applications,
but
we
should
be
able
to
identify
an
incomplete
application
right
up
front
and
send
it
back.
Why
are
we
taking
weeks
and
to
go
back
to
people
and
say
this
is
incomplete,
so
I'm
wondering
if
that's
an
area
that
you
could
look
at
this
process
that
may
actually
help
speed
it
up
if
it's
the
result
of
incomplete
applications,
there
should
be
steps
we
could
take
if
it's.
E
E
So
you
know
I,
won't
we
all
don't
dump
on
mixer
misty
and
today,
with
those
examples
but
they're
available
for
you
offline
and
and
it's
things
that
you
can
look
at,
that
I
think
would
provide
you
good
opportunities
to
improve
these
timelines.
So
I'll
leave
that
with
you
to
what
that
done.
The
engineering
review.
My
last
question
for
you
is
at
the
end
of
this
report.
You
talk
about
the
street-name
project
and
the
results
today
down
the
street
name:
etiquettes
30.
Some
changes
there
is
a
motion.
E
I
believe
is
at
the
last
at
the
end
of
the
last
term
of
council,
where
we
said
since
amalgamation.
This
has
been
going
on.
We
do
a
handful
of
streets
every
year
and
we
did
a
motion
that
was
unanimously
approved.
That
staff
were
to
go
away
and
come
up
with
a
plan
on
how
they
were
going
to
it
was
in
a
year
get
all
the
names
done
that
needed
to
be
done
now.
E
1,500
streets
to
be
done
it's
two
years
later
and
we're
only
a
30-ton
and
most
of
those
were
in
my
area,
because
I
offered
to
be
the
first
on
this,
so
that
they
could
test
their
processes.
But
to
me
we're
not
living
up
to
what
that
motion,
our
staff
to
do
so,
I'd
like
to
hear
from
you
what's
going
on
with
the
other
1,400,
why
aren't
they
before
some?
Why
aren't
they
fixed.
H
Madam
chair,
yes,
that
process
has
been
a
relatively
painful
process.
It's
taking
more
time
than
was
originally
expected
to
change,
address.
Name,
it's
it's
something
that
communities
hold
dear
changing
a
name.
You
know
street
name
is
something
that
is
a
very
difficult
process
to
do.
It
involves
extensive
back-and-forth
with
the
word
counselor
with
the
community.
E
Mr.
Miller,
with
all
due
respect,
if
we
went
through
that,
that's
why
we
did
the
motion
staff
agreed
that
they
could
come
up
with
a
process.
They
did
come
up
with
a
process.
I
I
went
through
the
experience
we
we
got
through
it,
it's
really
for
Community
Safety,
it's
for
emergency
services
that
were
trying
to
do
away
with
these
duplications.
So,
let's
not
sugarcoat
this.
There
was
a
direct
motion.
E
A
Allie
and
I
can
tell
you
that
what
the
very
first
term
that
we
started
doing
this,
it
was
absolute
chaos
and
it
was
very
I
think
the
most
volatile
meetings
we
had
I
remember
sunset,
remember:
sunset:
yeah
sunset
in
the
in
the
greed
going
down
to
downs,
Lake
and
sunset
yeah,
but
it
was
sunset.
Something
else
is
to
say
it's
to
word
thing
anyway.
It
was
ridiculous,
but
must
have
had
65
people
out.
So
we
did
a
lot
of
that.
Then.
What
started
happening
is
this.
We
can't
just
totally
blame
staff
at
all.
A
I
know
Frank's
here,
I
think
you
may
want
to
come
over
and
chime
in
a
bit.
We
cannot
because
in
some
cases
it's
the
counselors
because
they
know
that
the
impact
they're
going
to
have
in
their
areas-
and
they
just
don't
want
to
have
to
deal
with
it,
but
then
there's
a
mix
of
it
too,
because,
for
example,
in
my
area,
I
have
on
the
major
arterial
road
which
is
strand
hurt.
I
have
to
Jacque
fail,
which
is
a
major
road
at
strand,
hurt
two
of
them
so
from
emergency
services.
That
was
a
problem.
A
I
said
hello:
this
has
got
to
be
changed
now
that
road
and
I
think
maybe
it
wasn't
on
the
radar
it's
going
to
come
out
where
the
Costco
is
going
in
at
strand,
hurt
and
what
will
be
called
Helen
Campbell
Avenue
after
Helen
Campbell,
it's
a
neo
to
wear
when
grew
up
and
she's
a
bar
Haven
girl.
So
that's
going
to
happen
this
month,
didn't
May
20th
or
something
very
pleased
about
that.
But
that's
part
of
the
problem
too
I
have
another
one.
That's
got
to
change
because
we
have
a
5c
today.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
there's,
no
question
that
it's
taken
considerable
longer
time
that
we
had
originally
anticipated
my
my
presence
on
this
project
commenced
in
2015
and
that's
pretty
much
when
the
V
I
believe
that
information
report
was
submitted
to
committee.
Probably
later
in
2014
and
no
question,
there's
been
about
26
or
so
completed.
Street
names
have
been
completed,
however,
there's
about
70
in
production
and
processing,
and
it
does
take
months
over
several
months
to
do.
J
J
A
We
took
a
bit
of
a
holiday
to
because
the
the
backlash
was
so
and
any
councillor
Ali's
going
to
mention
one
in
his
area,
but
the
backlash
was
so
extreme
that
it
was
it.
It
was
at
a
time
when
we
were
trying
very
hard
to
build
a
new
city
post
amalgamation.
We
were
actually
pitting
communities
where
everybody
had
a
Main
Street
right.
Everybody
had
a
Main
Street.
So
then
we
tried
to
get
creative
with
that.
J
E
150
not
1500
is
what's
left
took
at
I
put
a
zero
on
the
end.
My
apologies
I'll
change
that
I
thought,
if
I
understood
correctly
and
was
arlene
Gregoire
before
I
mr.
Biden
that
came
and
presented
to
us.
The
idea
was
that
we
were
going
to
be
able
to
do
this
online,
that
you
were
developing
something
on
the
website,
so
that
folks
could
see
all
their
streets
we
were
offering
up
like
I
know
the
experience
we
had
in
our
area.
E
If
people
didn't
have
a
street
name
that
they
wanted
to
change
it
to,
we
made
some
suggestions
and
people
picked
from
those
and
it
went.
There
was
glitches,
but
it
went
relatively
smoothly,
like
I
thought.
Your
staff
were
very
helpful
and
implementing
that
and
that's
why
I'm,
not
understanding
why
it's
not
done
yet,
and
it
was
in
response
to
the
experiences
that
the
chair
and
councillor
shurelya,
experienced
and
others
that
I
counsel
else
interior
is
one
that
comes
to
mind
for
the
West
End
that
had
quite
a
difficult
time
with
one
the
streets.
E
A
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
My
wife
had
one
of
the
most
celebrated
attempted
street
name:
changes
in
ultimate
street
name
changed
with
almost
2000
people
protesting
and
signing
documents
to
try
to
stop
it,
claiming
that
there
really
was
no
reason
to
not
have
duplicate
street
names
and
ascribing
all
sorts
of
criminal
intent
to
just
about
everything.
So,
but
one
thing
I
did
see:
staffer
do
that
was
Robertson
wrote.
Okay,
one
thing
I
did
see
staff
do
through
the
course
of
the
seat.
I
We
had
a
plan
all
nicely
laid
out,
but
that
doesn't
mean
the
public
is
going
to
operate
under
that
plan,
and
we
may
have
said
okay
here,
a
bunch
of
names
pick
them
online,
pick
them
off
the
list
and
assign
your
preference
to
your
street
when
they
say
no
I'm
not
doing
that,
and
instead
I'm
picking
a
name
that
actually
isn't
even
on
the
list,
but
would
make
an
additional
duplicate
street
name,
because
it's
already
somewhere
else
in
the
city
and
then
then
they
show
up
at
mr.
Biggins
office
and
demand
all
sorts
of
things.
I
Change.
I.
Think
staff
have
done
a
good
job
to
keep
those
tempers.
At
least
somewhat
at
advanced
and
and
and
move
us
forward
a
bit
in
my
way
we
have
Rutherford
Street,
of
which
there
are
four
others.
So
we
have
five
Rutherford
streets
and
convincing
certain
people.
That
five
is
too
many
was
you
know,
pretty
difficult
in
some
cases
and
then
it
moved
to
well.
My
rather
furred
Street
is
more
important
than
the
other
four,
so
they
should
all
change
and
the
public
simply
refusing
to
buy
into
the
criteria
that
were
pre-med.
I
They
were
determined
at
the
start
of
the
process,
so
I've
seen
because
my
ward
office
is
at
Ben
Franklin
place
where
people
will
come
in
and
and
there
will
be
incensed.
You
know,
people
saying
the
street
name
selected
was,
for
example,
gladiola,
but
we
want
Nightrider,
okay
and
just
the
lack
of
understanding
of
the
process
in
the
insists
insistence
that
people
get
their
way
on
some
of
these
things
and
the
disregard
for
the
reason
for
doing
it.
I
think
mr.
I
J
I
just
want
to
do
village
because
we
ended
up
not
holding
item
7,
which
was
the
annual
development
report
and
I
just
wanted
to
acknowledge,
because
we
haven't
had
a
chance
to
talk
about
it
and
thank
the
staff
who
worked
on
it.
It's
a
very
useful
document.
It
goes
through
all
sorts
of
interesting
demographics
and
patterns
in
the
city,
and
although
we
didn't
stop-
and
there
wasn't
a
presentation
on
it,
I
do
want
to
take
a
brief
moment
to
thank
all
the
staff
who
worked
on
it.
J
A
A
We
have
some
information
coming
forward
that
staff
I've
asked
him
to
pull
so
we
can
see
how
we're
doing
with
our
previously
approved
transit,
oriented
development
stations,
areas
to
see
how
how
growth
is
is
happening
there.
So
we'll
be
looking
for
that
information.
Anybody
have
anything
else
well
anyway.
Thank
you
very
much
staff.
Is
this
item
received?
A
Okay,
thank
you
all
right
and
you
notices
of
motion,
and,
what's
that
one?
Oh,
yes,
I!
Better!
Hang
on
hang
on
a
second
late.
So
there
is
the
vice-chair.
Tyranny
has
has
a
motion
with
regard
to
an
FCM
conference
that
is
in
well
he'll
introduce
it,
but,
first
of
all
will
you
allow
this
to
become
to
come
forward
today
to
be
added
to
the
agenda.
D
D
B
First
of
all,
there's
a
great
conference
that
the
FCM
takes
part
in
it's
called
Great,
West
sustainability.
It
runs
October
3rd
to
the
7th
2016,
it's
a
great
conference
and
something
that
Frank
a
chair
should
be
really
involved
in
so
I'm
gonna
skip
to
the
warehouses.
Unless
want
me
to
read
this
joint
page
of
paper
here,
mr.
Charlie,
therefore,
it
be
resolved
that
the
Planning
Committee
approved
counselor
Jan
herders
attendance
at
the
federation
of
ke.
B
Miss
abilities,
go
west
sustainability,
tour
to
be
held
in
Vancouver
to
Seattle,
between
October
3rd
to
7th
2016
to
be
funded
with
the
training
credit
from
the
City
Council
administrative
budget
and
planning
and
growth
management
conference
and
travel
funds,
as
described
in
the
motion,
and
just
to
note,
if
you
look
in
the
motion,
it
also
makes
mention
of
the
fact
that
del
Sur
Harbor
intends
on
using
the
full
value
of
training
credit
which
we
have
with
her
office
budget
against
this
as
well.
Thank.
A
You
there's
two
aspects
to
this:
there's
that
there's
one
that's
climate
control
that
they're
doing
there's
some
joint
sessions,
but
the
other
one
is
brownfields
or
waterfront
developments
and
I'm.
That's
the
one
that
I'm
I'm,
going
to
be
signing
up
for
I
haven't
been
approved,
there's
only
taking
40
people
from
across
Canada.
So
but
that's
why?
That's
why
there's
an
urgency
accounts
are
Brockington.