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Planning Committee meeting – February 27, 2018 – Audio Stream
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A
A
And
so
official
plan
and
zoning
bylaw
amendments
listed
as
items
1
to
7
on
today's
agenda
for
the
items
just
mention
only
those
who
make
oil
submissions
today
or
written
submissions
before
the
amendments
are
adopted
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
interior
municipal
board,
/
Local
Planning,
Appeal
Tribunal.
In
addition,
the
applicant
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
interior
man,
this
board
/
Local
Planning
Appeal
Tribunal.
A
If
council
does
not
adopt
an
amendment
within
120
days
of
receipt
of
the
application
for
zoning
and
180
days
for
an
official
plan
amendment
as
you
know,
or
comment,
or
if
you
don't
know
this
common
sheet
over
there
by
that
TV.
For
anyone
wanting
to
submit
written
comments
or
to
speak
to
these
items,
are
there
any
declarations
of
interest?
A
None
confirmation
of
minutes
from
the
February
13th
meeting
of
this
year?
They
carry
carrying
okay
item
number.
One
is
the
Official
Plan
and
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
355
Cooper
Street,
Miguel
Tremblay
is
here
for
Fulton
Miguel.
Do
you
need
to
speak
if
we're
prepared
to
carry
this
okay,
because
we
don't
have
any
speakers
other
than
the
representative?
The
Delic
of
the
applicant
I
had
suggested
that
mr.
Roderick
Simon
Diaco
had
to
prepare
a
presentation
just
because
it's
a
really
good
story
but
I
think
with
so
many
people
here.
We
won't
do
that
today.
A
So
if
no
one
has
any
questions
on
this,
are
you
prepared
to
carry
this
item?
That's
it's
for
those
in
the
audience.
It
is
an
item
that
is
about
the
church
in
downtown
Ottawa
that
Carleton
University,
the
former
of
president
Rosana
Wylie
runty,
had
an
interest
in
and
thought
that
it
would
be
a
great
relationship.
So
the
church
is
going
to
be
remain
as
a
church.
The
outside
is
not
going
to
be
changed
inside
there's
going
to
be
programming
for
Carleton
University
for
theater
and
drama
and
they'll
likely
be.
The
chamber.
A
Fests
were
called
some
of
its
events
there.
So
it's
a
I
think
it's
a
pretty
good
win
for
for
Ottawa.
That's
why
I
was
going
to
have
a
presentation
on
it,
but
we
have
too
many
people
here
to
have
to
sit
through
that.
So
on
that
item
it's
carried
correct
all
right.
So
next
item
is
the
official
client
amendment
and
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
315
Chapel
Street,
and
we
will
hold
that.
We
have
a
lot
of
speakers
on
that
number.
A
Through
the
morning,
I'll
try
to
give
you
a
sense
of
when
we'll
be
going
for
a
break,
and
if
you
you
know,
if
I
have
a
sense
of
timing
of
when
the
item
might
come
forward
just
to
how
allow
you
to
make
better
use
of
your
time.
The
fifth
item
is
the
is
in
River
Ward
again
and
it's
the
zoning
bylaw
amendment
428
87
and
2895
Riverside
Drive.
A
Ys
B,
which
is
Joanne
low.
Do
you
both
want?
It
mean
if
we're
prepared
to
carry
this
item?
Do
you
both
want
to
speak
still?
Are
you
happy
with
a
yes?
So
this
is
for
the
Youth
Services
Bureau
I
know
that
counselor
Brockington
has
done
quite
a
bit
of
work
on
it
in
his
community
and
there
seem
to
be
all
supportive
as
this
item
Carrie
there
you
go.
Thank
you.
A
A
Well,
next
one
is
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
351
Sand,
Hill
Road.
We
have
speakers
that
are
speaking
lights
on
behalf
of
the
the
applicant,
which
is
for
a
mosque
in
Kannada
north
bill.
Where
are
you
and
John
a
Dave
help
any
and
Mehmood
sikh
who
are
welcome?
Do
you
need
to
speak
if
we're
prepared
to
carry
this?
Does
anybody
have
any
questions?
A
Are
you?
Are
you
good
with
yes,
you're
good
with
yes
or
are
we
giving
them
a?
Yes?
Is
this
item
carry
Thanks
councillor
Wilkinson.
Thank
you.
Okay,
number.
Eight
is
the
application
for
demolition
and
new
construction
at
50,
Lake
Way
Drive,
it's
a
copper,
T
designated
under
part,
five
of
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act
and
located
in
the
Rockville
Pike
Heritage
Conservation
District.
A
This
did
go
to
chair
and
this
bones
of
built
heritage
committee.
In
the
past
there,
the
walk
off
Park,
Community
Association,
is
in
support
of
it
passed
on
consent.
It
passed
on
consent,
which
should
be
something
for
us.
So
Erin
Duncan
are
you
here
from
Jane
Thompson
architect,
so
Erin?
Do
you
have
a
burning
need
to
speak
if
we're
ready
to
carry
this
item?
Okay,
so
is
this
item
carry
thank
you
number.
Nine
is
the
site
alteration
by
law
and
we
have
speakers
for
that,
so
we'll
be
holding
that.
A
Number
10
is
the
status
update
for
the
planning
committee,
inquiries
and
motions.
Is
that
received?
Thank
you
and
then
we
have
an
item
that
is
a
counselor
item.
Counselor
Koosh
is
here,
I
saw
hi
and
it
was
so
it's
a
counselor
item
and
it's
the
repeal
of
by
one
number
2017
tooth
45
interim
controlled
by
law,
as
it
relates
to
the
lands,
no
municipal
II
as
203
and
205
Henderson
Avenue.
We
do
have
legal
representation
for
the
applicant
here.
Mr.
Weber,
are
you
here,
mr.
A
Okay
well
well,
there's
just
asked
whether
we
couldn't
carry
this
item.
Is
there
a
does
anyone
all
right?
No
I
didn't
think
you
would
okay.
So
therefore
we're
holding
it
cash
in
legal
parkland.
That's
a
report.
Nobody
wants
to
lift
it,
do
they
nope,
so
let's
received
and
that's
just
an
IP
D
anyway,
okay
and
then
we're
going
to
have
a
notice
of
motion
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
for
a
councillor
sponsor
group
on
DCs
all
right
back
to
the
future
first
item
and
we
have
a
presentation:
it's
on
3:15
Chapel,
Street,.
A
B
Thank
you
morning,
madam
chair
and
committee
members.
My
name
is
Kirsten
Mitchell
I
am
the
file
lead
for
the
official
plan
and
zoning
bylaw
amendment
applications
for
315,
Chapel
Street,
so
315
Chapel
Street,
is
located
in
the
neighborhood
of
Sandy
Hill.
It
is
bound
by
simple
Street
or
speak
up
studies
yep.
Thank
you.
It's
located
in
Sandy
Hill
bounded
by
a
Chapas
tree
on
the
west,
blackburn
avenue
on
the
east
and
Laurier
Avenue
East.
On
the
north
side.
B
The
site
currently
is
the
home
to
the
former
All
Saints
Anglican
Church
and
beat
Memorial
Hall,
the
former
Church
as
a
pedestrian
entrance
on
Chapel,
Street
and
Memorial
Hall
has
a
pedestrian
entrance
on
Buckhorn
Avenue.
So
the
site
is
currently
designated
general
urban
area
within
the
Official
Plan
in
zone
4,
minor
institutional
uses,
which
includes
such
uses
as
place
of
assembly,
place
of
worship,
community,
centers
and
other
such
uses.
B
That
is
also
within
the
Sandy
Hill
secondary
plan
area
and
is
designated
for
low
profile
residential,
which
sets
a
limit
of
4
storeys
is
within
the
Heritage
overlay,
and
it
is
also
designated
under
part
4
of
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act
and
located
within
a
proposed
Heritage
Conservation
servation
district.
So
the
line
here
shows
the
proposed
Heritage
Conservation
District,
and
these
circles
here
just
show
some
context
of
some
other
mid
to
high
rise
buildings
in
the
neighborhood.
B
So,
as
you
can
see,
there
are
two
high-rise
buildings
or
costs
on
the
north
side
of
or
you
having
East
as
well
as
sorry
south
on
Chapel
Street,
as
well
as
West
family,
Avenue
Studies
on
each
side
as
well.
So
just
some
context,
you
can
see
the
church
here.
This
is
looking
east
on
Laurier.
You
can
see
the
church
as
well
as
some
high-rise
buildings,
just
looking
West
a
different
context.
B
So
looking
south
on
Chapel,
you
can
see
the
pedestrian
entrance
to
the
former
Church
and
looking
south
and
black
when
you
can
see
the
residential
neighborhoods.
So
it's
important
to
note
that
the
same
whole
neighborhood,
especially
to
the
south
of
the
site,
a
zoned
for
residential
and
it
is
clearly
the
home
of
mostly
residential
uses,
as
well
as
some
embassies
and
diplomatic
offices
with
include
converted
drawings.
B
So
this
is
the
proposal
here.
This
is
just
a
massing
that
was
proposed
as
proposed
by
the
applicant.
So,
as
you
can
see
here,
this
is
a
nine
story.
Building
it
has
a
main
entrance
on
Blackburn
Avenue
for
both
pedestrians
as
well
as
vehicles,
and
the
first
four
storeys
are
proposed
to
be
of
the
community
and
commercial
uses
so
community
center.
Perhaps
an
instruction
facility
are
some
small
retail
components
or
cafe
components
as
well
as
the
upper
third
and
fourth
stories.
B
There
was
to
be
offices
that
cater
to
the
local
community,
the
upper
storeys,
are
proposed
to
be
either
residential
nature
or
a
hotel
use.
The
existing
church
is
proposed
to
be
maintained.
Its
current
place
of
assembly
use
so
use
for
banquets
and
weddings
as
well
as
community
uses,
as
well
as
propose
restaurant.
B
So
the
the
applicant
has
requested
to
rezone
the
site
to
allow
for
these
community
and
commercial
uses,
as
well
as
to
increase
the
height.
So
right
here
in
front
of
you,
you
have
just
showing
the
recommended
Heights
and
setbacks
so
area
a
represents.
The
existing
Church
and
the
view
on
to
the
north
is
also
shown
just
to
show
that
these
areas
are
preserved
because
they
are
designated
for
Heritage
and
then
area.
B
B
shows
a
three-story
podium
that
wraps
around
the
building
and
provides
a
setback
from
the
residential
neighborhood
to
the
west
and
to
the
south
area.
C
provides
and
transitions
at
six
storeys
and
then
area.
D
shows
the
proposed
nine
story
component,
and
that
is
the
proposal
and
Athiya
I'd
welcome
any
questions.
A
D
A
I,
don't
know
whether
the
mics
are
not
has
turned
up
as
much
or
whatever,
but
I
think
that
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
even
with
you,
Kelsey
earnest
farm
I
didn't
I,
wasn't
mad
okay,
so
I'm
sir.
You
have
five
minutes
and
that's
for
everybody
else
in
the
room.
There's
there's
five
minutes
to
speak
on
any
of
these
items.
Thank
you
for
coming
out
today,
press
the
button.
There
you
go
yeah.
E
Thank
you,
my
I'm
chair
good
morning
and
members
of
the
committee
I've
left
for
30
years
at
22
Russell
having
you
about
a
block
away
from
the
proposed
their
development
and
I'm
here
to
speak
in
favor
of
the
application.
All
Saints
Church
played
an
important
role
in
Sandy
Hill
over
a
century.
Its
historical
associations
with
Sir
Robert
Borden
debate
family
in
many
distinguished
Sandy
Hill
families
is
well
known,
but
the
church
was
also
an
important
community
hub.
During
its
day
before
World
War,
two
three
hundred
pupils
were
enrolled
in
its
Sunday
School.
E
More
recently
old
Saints,
who
said
the
baby
hide
nursery
school.
Other
churches,
as
well
as
the
school
dolls,
dance,
ensembles
and
counters
bazaars
cornerstone
housing
for
women
and
hospices
that
may
Court
got
started
at
All
Saints
in
the
1980s
plus
the
outreach
to
students
now
at
st.
Albans
began
in
the
millennial
period.
E
It
is
this
function
as
a
community
hub
that
the
applicant
AllSaints
development
sync
is
replicating
today.
The
activities
may
be
different
and
include
meetings
concerts,
a
coffee
shop,
craft
sales,
but
the
role
is
the
same:
to
create
a
welcoming
space
that
residents
can
use
to
meet,
learn,
relax
and
discuss
the
issues
of
the
day.
It's
a
vital
community
building
role,
creating
a
community
hub
in
a
large
century-old
heritage.
Property
is
expensive.
Taxes
are
high
as
our
heating
maintenance
and
renovation
costs.
Current
activities
cannot
provide
enough
money
to
make
the
building
financially
sustainable.
E
The
only
realistic
option
is
to
develop
the
land
around
the
former
church
to
provide
the
revenues
to
protect
it.
This
is
not
a
new
idea.
Over
six
years
ago,
the
Anglican
Diocese
faith
with
a
declining
congregation
explored
what
to
do
with
all
saints
and
held
a
design
charrette,
bringing
together
architects
planners
members
of
the
community
and
parishioners
you'd
identified
building
a
12
story
condominium
tower
at
the
corner,
Polly
and
Blackburn
as
the
most
promising
source
of
revenues
to
subsidize
the
church's
operations.
E
In
the
end,
the
diocese
decided
to
sell
the
property,
rather
than
remain
liable
for
its
costly
maintenance.
The
current
application
is
smaller
and
more
sensitively
designed
than
the
original
idea
of
the
high-rise
it
incorporates
stones
from
bait.
Hall
sets
back
setbacks
from
the
street
and
a
tower
at
the
corner
for
Ian
Blackburn
to
match
the
existing
church
tower.
The
applicant,
whose
CEO
lives
in
the
neighborhood
has
shown
an
extraordinary
willingness
to
listen
and
has
revised
the
design
of
the
proposed
building
to
try
to
accommodate
concerns
from
neighbors
the
Community
Association
and
heritage.
E
Ottawa
I
realized
that
some
neighbors
are
concerned
about
the
height
and
mass
of
the
new
building
on
the
street,
the
zone
report
stories
and
the
additional
traffic
and
parking
demand
it
will
generate.
But
if
we
value
the
services
that
All
Saints
Inc
already
provides
and
those
that
will
become
possible
once
the
building's
financial
viability
is
ensured,
we
should
support
this
application.
E
The
alternative
that
old,
Saints
Inc
fails
that
the
light
is
sold
to
a
developer
with
no
roots
in
the
community
and
perhaps
little
interest
in
protecting
the
church
building
would
be
highly
detrimental
to
the
neighborhood.
It
would
put
at
risk
or
public
space
that
has
been
used
by
the
community
for
over
100
years.
That,
perhaps
the
future
of
the
existing
heritage
building
itself
I
urge
the
committee,
therefore,
to
endorse
this
application.
A
A
E
E
So
let
me
begin
by
saying
that
we
welcomed
the
proposed
development
right
from
the
beginning,
as
it
provides
the
economic
means
to
save
a
heritage
structure
important
to
us
all,
but
as
the
adjacent
property
owner
we're
the
ones
most
affected
by
this
development
and
I
can
say,
we've
acted
responsibly,
maintaining
regular
contact
with
the
all
science
development
team
dating
back
to
before
they
even
purchased
the
property.
Our
main
request
is
simply
that
the
committee
ensure
that
this
new
development
does
not
detract
from
the
use
and
enjoyment
of
our
property.
E
E
This
application
relates
to
new
construction,
where
there
is
an
opportunity
to
meet
the
requirements
of
the
by
law.
With
respect
to
setbacks,
the
applicant
has
been
afforded
the
opportunity
of
nine
stories
yet
still
finds
it
necessary
to
build
almost
right
to
the
lot
line.
In
fact,
Kirsten
amici
in
a
phone
call
to
our
lawyer
advised
October
25th
at
the
current
distance
between
the
property
and
the
code,
property
is
but
0.42
metres.
E
E
It's
not
the
case
of
two
buildings
that
predate
zoning,
but
in
fact,
the
case
where
the
city
is
recommending
approval
of
a
new
building
that
violates
its
own
setback,
rules,
rules
which
are
designed
to
not
only
provide
adequate
air
light
and
view,
but
sufficient
area
to
maintain
the
structure
entirely
on-site
without
the
need
to
trespass
on
other
properties.
Our
second
point
is
in
regard
to
the
loading
access
driveway.
Also,
its
development
intends
to
include
a
loading
access
driveway
on
the
border
of
our
parking
lot.
This
driveway
is
only
about
three
meters
wide.
E
The
driveway
is
currently
used
and
will
be
used
considerably
more
frequently
once
ASD
begins
development.
This
will
be
for
all
commercial
all
commercial
purposes,
so
everything
going
in
in
and
out
of
this
building,
all
food
or
laundry
delivery,
all
garbage
pickup
if
it
becomes
a
condo,
an
apartment.
Presumably,
all
resident
moving
bans
will
go
in
through
this
driveway.
Our
concern
derives
from
the
fact
that
the
only
access
to
the
properties
loading
dock
is
through
the
driveway
and
it's
the
driveway
is
simply
not
wide
enough
to
accommodate
these
commercial
vehicles.
E
I've
included
some
photos
in
I
appeal
to
you,
which
shows
what
currently
is
used.
This
is
before
the
development
takes
place.
Art
I
can
also
say
that
muna
alot,
sir
a
transportation
planning
engineer,
recommended
in
a
critical
report
dated
October
3rd
that
truck
deliveries
be
limited
to
nighttime
hours
in
order
to
minimize
the
potential
impact.
Our
experience
since
then
is
that
the
deliveries
have
be
incurring
at
all
hours
and
in
fact
it's
been
increased
commercial
traffic.
E
So
we
in
fact
met
with
the
developers
on
this,
and
we
appeared
to
have
consensus
that
the
plan,
the
revised
plan,
would
include
a
structure
offence
of
some
sort,
delineating
the
property
line.
So
it's
to
eliminate
the
use
of
codes
property
for
ASD
delivery
purposes.
However,
the
new
plan,
as
presented,
proposes
only
a
partial
fence
on
the
north
boundary
of
the
code
property.
So
we
have
t
submissions.
One
is
that
we
submit
that
at
a
minimum
the
fence
has
to
extend
to
the
sidewalk
the
entire
length
of
the
driveway.
E
Second,
we
submit
that
there's
simply
not
enough
space
between
the
buildings
for
the
owners
to
maintain
their
respective
walls
should
the
building
on
the
property
be
located
on
the
same
footprint
as
the
current
building,
the
construction
of
the
underground
parking
garage.
Well,
I
know
this
is
a
separate
issue,
but
the
underground
parking
lot
is
going
four
stories
down
about
four
feet
from
our
foundation
and
we
do
have
concerns
I
realize
that's
an
engineer's
question,
but
we
are
hoping
that
adequate
insurance
is
taken
out
to
protect
our
building
in
the
case
of
something
happening.
A
Thank
you,
but
just
before
you
leave
I
just
have
some
questions
of
Kirsten.
Do
you
have
any
comments
making
some
of
what
Scott
was
talking
about,
where's
that
certainly
site
plan?
How
are
you
going
to
deal
with
some
of
those
issues
like
the
fence,
like
the
and,
of
course,
the
the
other
comments
that
he
made?
Yes,
I
think.
B
B
E
Madam
madam
chair,
with
respect
to
digging
the
underground
garage,
it
would
have
to
be
done.
It's
again.
M
can
be
addressed
through
the
site
plan,
but
the
underground
garage
would
have
to
be
done
on,
of
course,
the
applicants
property
and
not
coming
over
onto
the
adjacent
neighbor's
property
and,
as
I
mentioned,
to
be
investigated
through
the
site
plan,
as
well
as
with
respect
to
the
setback.
Then
you
mentioned
about
a
point:
four
meter
setback.
It's
one
point
two,
which
is
now
a
typical
side
yard,
with
respect
to
maintenance
on
the
outside
of
your
building.
E
That's
what
you
have
in
for
the
first
there's
a
podium
there
that
has
a
step
back
to
the
to
the
height
to
the
building,
to
nine
story
portion
at
three
point:
four
meters.
So
those
distances
are
typical.
You
would
find
another
development,
so
the
opportunity
to
do
maintenance
on
the
Ronia
on
their
own
side
yard,
and
that
was
increased
to
that
four
feet.
All
right.
Okay,.
A
D
Yeah
well,
thank
you
for
having
me
this
morning.
My
name
is
Chad
Rowland's
I'm,
president
of
the
Community
Association
Action
Sandy
Hill.
This
development
is
in
our
community
I
just
wanted
to
speak
in
support
this
morning
of
the
application.
This
file,
as
you
may
be
aware,
goes
back
several
years.
There
was
a
committee
formed
about
four
years
ago
called
saved
the
Saints
when
it
became
quite
apparent
that
the
church
was
going
to
be
sold.
That
committee
included
a
number
of
community
members
myself
as
well
as
well.
D
I
was
one
of
the
members
and
from
that
committee
really
was
born
two
ideas.
One
was
prime
minister's
row,
which
is
a
fantastic
initiative.
The
other
idea
was
this
concept
of
perhaps
forming
a
community
group
to
actually
or
a
Development
Corporation
in
the
community
to
buy
the
building
I'm,
not
one
of
the
buyers
I'm,
not
one
of
the
owners
I'm
going
to
just
make
that
clear,
but
that
did
happen
from
that.
D
We
wanted
to
ensure
that
the
various
community
activities
that
had
happened
at
the
church
for
a
hundred
years
were
able
to
continue
on-site
things
like
yoga
things
like
dance
classes,
etc,
and
the
other
item
that
was
important
was
to
bring
a
few
added
and
needed
commercial
uses
to
the
area
and
to
find
a
way
to
make
this
church
in
this
heritage
property
viable.
We
believe
that
the
applicant
is
trying
to
accommodate
all
of
those
things
with
this
application.
We
also
believe
that
they've
been
very
responsive
to
the
community
and
considering
our
input.
D
We
know
that
some
people
do
still
have
concerns
about
issues
like
traffic
and
the
final
height
and
mass
of
the
building.
We
believe
those
will
continue
to
be
worked
through
and
refined
in
the
site
plan
process,
a
heritage
application
and
in
the
design,
competition
that
the
owner
is
planning
to
carry
out.
So
we're
quite
confident
that
this
will
be
a
positive
development
for
the
community
and
we're
just
here,
I'm
just
here
to
express
the
support
of
the
Community
Association
action.
Sandy
Hill,
and
thank
you
for
your
time.
Thanks.
A
For
coming
out
and
I
think
that
the
there
they're
not
just
interests
but
they're
forthright,
you
know
where
they're
going
to
go
and
they're
hiring
having
the
contest
is
amazing.
In
fact,
st.
Charles
Church
doesn't
in
the
st.
Charles
Church
I
mean
take
that
as
an
example,
just
in
the
neighborhood
in
the
ward,
beside
there
with
the
councillor
no
slums
area
and
the
it's
brilliant.
What
they've
done
so
I
think
also
people
in
the
community
that
have
been
engaged
will
have
an
opportunity
to
be
engaged
for
quite
a
while
longer.
A
A
E
E
My
initial
graduate
training
years
ago
was
in
urban
planning
and
Winnipeg,
where
I
served
as
chairman
of
the
town,
Planning
Commission
and
st.
Boniface
Manitoba,
and
we
engaged
in
pre-planning
a
district,
the
size
of
Sandy
Hill
and,
as
I
now
look
at
this
project,
where
the
changes
that
have
been
made
to
it,
it's
going
to
bring
life
to
the
district,
respect
to
the
diversity
and
is
a
project
looking
forward
and
so
I
strongly
support
this
concept
going
forward
and
the
changes
that
are
needed
will
be
worked
out
in
the
process.
Thank
you.
It's.
A
D
E
E
In
1974,
nor
Saint
Boniface
had
to
be
redeveloped
and
they
had
reached
the
planning
stage.
The
city
clerk
at
the
time
mr.
Matteo
and
a
mr.
Purdham
approached
me
and
asked
if
I
would
join
the
Planning
Committee
where
a
leader
became
the
chair.
I
was
also
then
asked
to
take
on
a
project
for
the
summer.
We
can't
pay
you
very
much.
We
can
only
pay
you
a
hundred
dollars
a
week.
What
do
you
think
about
that?
E
D
E
One
simple
request:
I
need
help
so
I
had
all
these
volunteers,
I
had
one
to
two
people
per
block
in
the
district
representation
from
the
commercial,
the
religious
groups,
the
environmental
groups,
engineers,
business
people,
the
brewery,
people,
the
Creamery
people
and
small
business
people
on
the
Avenue.
So
what
we
did
was
take
that
initial
plan
developed
by
a
Winnipeg
architect-
and
we
went
through
the
district
discussing
it
in
weekly
meetings
brought
by
block
I
called
them
broad
captains,
I
base
it
on
a
political
model.
At
the
end
of
five
months,.
E
E
Going
forward
just
recently,
the
deputy
mayor
of
Winnipeg
map,
Arad
and
now
phase
2
of
the
program,
but
the
initial
phase,
involving
a
district
similar
in
size
to
Sandy
Hill,
is
a
marvelous
story
of
success.
These
are
long-term
visionary
plans
and
what
I
see
with
All
Saints
is
a
vision
going
forward
over
the
longer
term
and
the
details
that
do
come
up
our
minor,
given
the
larger
picture,
I've
seen
this
in
Toronto,
South,
abreu
or
many
churches
have
now
been
turned
into
condominiums
I.
Think
it's
a
beautiful
concept!
E
A
E
A
No
there's
we
have
the
app.
We
have
the
applicants
after
you,
but
I
just
asked,
because
when
you
registered,
you
said
that
you
only
would
speak
if
your
points
hadn't
been
raised,
but
you're
both
in
support.
Okay,
thanks
very
much
sure,
okay,
Sunita!
Thank
you.
That's
a
big
responsibility.
Judith
good
morning,
my.
B
B
First,
street
museum,
Museum
and
a
mandate
is
not
only
to
commemorate
the
lives
and
legacies
of
all
of
the
past
Canadian
Prime
Minister's,
but
also
to
create
a
fluid
looking
space
for
citizenship
and
engagement
around
the
issues
of
leadership
and
governance
and
democracy
in
Canada.
So
it's
a
space
that
we
envision
as
being
very
vibrant,
diverse
intergenerational
and
dynamic,
and
we
have
long
envisioned,
All
Saints
as
sitting
at
the
hub
of
that,
both
because
of
its
location
and
also
because
of
the
vision
that
its
proponents
are
putting
forward.
B
We've
already
benefited
from
the
opportunity
to
engage
regularly
in
programming
and
events
in
that
space,
and
we
really
look
forward
to
the
opportunity
to
continue
our
programming
and
our
engagement
in
the
outdoor
spaces
and
in
the
revitalized
spaces
as
well,
that
are
being
proposed
through
this
application.
As
a
sandy
Hillier
I
would
also
like
to
lend
my
support
division
to
this
initiative.
We
are
missing
the
kinds
of
amenities
and
services
that
an
urban
walkable
neighborhood
should
have.
B
We
are
missing
the
high-quality
opportunities
to
come
together
in
beautiful
public
spaces
and
we
have
long
missed
the
opportunity
to
engage
positively
in
a
community
driven
endeavor
such
as
this
one.
I
can't
wait
to
see
what
this
development
brings
to
the
neighborhood
as
a
mother
as
a
community
activist
and
as
someone
who's
really
looking
forward
to
having
an
opportunity
to
stay
within
my
neighbourhood
for
date,
night
with
my
husband.
B
A
E
A
E
B
We
go
thanks
very
much
madam
chair
and
all
members
of
Planning
Committee
I
had
prepared
a
five
minute
speech,
which
was
five
minutes
exactly,
but
a
lot
of
my
points
have
been
covered.
So
there's
a
few
things
that
I'll
just
skip
over
here
and
just
to
introduce
myself.
My
name
is
Leanne
Rosa
and
I
led
the
group
that
purchased
the
former
All
Saints
Anglican
Church.
Our
ownership
group
is
made
up
of
50
percent
just
in
terms
of
the
model
that
we
use
to
purchase
it.
B
Francoise
highlighted
a
lot
of
the
things
that
are
important
about
the
heritage,
building
I'll
just
point
to
a
few
of
them
and
built
in
1899
by
Sir
Henry
Newell
bate,
who
is
one
of
Ottawa's,
most
important
businesspeople.
It's
the
site
of
Canada's,
only
royal
wedding
by
minister
state
funeral
world
war,
one
Memorial
stained-glass
windows
a
tower
with
a
rare
nine
Bell
chime.
So
it
is
really
an
important
historic
place
and
only
the
exterior
walls
and
windows
were
protected
by
the
heritage.
B
Designation,
so
part
of
our
effort
is
actually
to
keep
it
as
a
large
space
that
people
can
continue
to
enjoy
and
appreciate.
I
also
want
to
offer
a
little
bit
of
background
just
on
how
the
All
Saints
project
came
to
be
I
like
sitting
it'll
have
actually
two
blocks
away
from
the
church.
With
my
family,
my
children
went
to
nursery
school
in
the
basement
of
this
church.
B
So
that's
how
I
became
engaged
in
it
and
about
five
years
ago,
while
I
was
on
maternity
leave,
I
led
a
group
of
neighbors
to
purchase
an
old
carriage
house
in
Sandy
Hill
fast
forward
five
years.
The
carriage
house
now
houses
two
of
Ottawa's
success
stories
and
that
old
nursery
school
has
become
buddy
Hyde
Early
Learning
Center,
which
is
a
full-time,
not-for-profit
childcare
center
for
40
children,
as
well
as
the
child.
B
Adolescent
two
families,
central
Ottawa,
which
offers
mental
health
and
other
related
family
services
all
over
the
city
that
was
our
first
project
and
consistent,
can
be
considered
a
success
on
all
accounts.
It
hasn't
had
a
huge
positive
impact
on
the
community
I
personally
know
of
a
number
of
families
who
have
moved
to
Sandy
Hill,
because
the
daycare
facilities
available
and-
and
you
know
it's
proven-
also
to
be
a
very
financially
viable
ownership
model.
B
You
know
what
we
found
is
that
there
is
definitely
a
demand
for
multi-purpose
space,
we're
busy
we're
busy
every
day,
seven
days
the
week.
So
it's
very
exciting
that
said
the
costs
of
carrying
this
property,
combined
with
managing
the
consequences
of
years
of
deferred
maintenance
on
heritage
property.
In
our
view,
that
redevelopment
is
absolutely
required
to
allow
us
to
continue
and
that's
what
brings
us
forward
with
this
proposal.
So
thanks
very
much
thank.
C
A
question
in
mismos:
thank
you
for
your
presentation.
It's
on
that
last
point
that
I
wanted
to
speak
to
this
because
I'm
very
aware
of
the
cost
to
maintain
old
churches,
masonry,
roof
windows,
heating,
I'm,
sure
you
don't
have
air
conditioning.
We
do!
Oh
wow!
That's
probably
why
you
have
so
many
community
groups
in
there
going
long-term,
though
I
mean
this
concept
is
good
now.
C
B
So
over
the
last
year,
we've
run
22
weddings
at
All
Saints,
and
we
not
only
member
ceremony
like
a
church.
Does
we
actually
run
the
full
reception
we
carry
the
bar.
We
provide
all
the
service
staff.
This
is
actually
a
very
viable
business
model
that
is
entirely
dependent
on
a
well-run,
well
preserved
heritage
building.
So
what
we've
done
is
we've
built
a
plan
where
the
preservation
of
the
heritage
building
itself
becomes
central
to
the
reach
of
the
financial
viability
of
the
project
and.
B
I
mean
we're
required
in
the
corporation,
so
we
responded.
We
answer
to
our
investors
and
we
have,
unlike
the
carriage
house
where
it
was
exclusively
neighbors
who
invested
in
this
project
and
in
this
instance
50
as
I
mentioned
50%
of
business
investors.
To
be
honest,
that's
my
family
from
back
in
Alberta
and
they
have
a
45
year
track
record
in
the
real
estate
business
and
believe
me
to
point
open
my
books.
B
B
E
Thank
you
good
morning,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee
I'm,
the
planning
consultant
to
All
Saints
working
with
them
on
this
application.
The
this
is
a
I'm
saying
not
an
unusual
situation.
I've
been
before
you
before,
with
other
examples
of
where
churches
and
new
development
are
intended
to
coexist
in
co-located
in
existing
communities.
E
We,
as
LuAnn
has
mentioned
the
process
of
designing
and
I'll
say
the
shrink-wrapped
envelope,
as
I've
said
before,
has
been
responsive
to
concerns
that
have
been
raised
and
specifically
where
we,
the
concern,
was
made
by
code
to
the
neighbors
to
the
West.
Our
original
design
had
zero
line
on
that
border,
which
is
the
same
as
the
beit
hall.
So
out
of
respect
and
consideration
for
that
concern,
the
building
was
moved
to
the
east.
E
One
point
two
meters,
which
is
the
same
distance
as
codes
building
from
there
easterly
property
line
and
as
well
out
of
concerns
for
light
and
views
area.
D
that
you
see
in
purple
was
also
shrunk
towards
the
east,
so
that
there's
a
larger
step
of
three
storeys
and,
with
respect
to
say,
providing
assurances
that
the
process
will
play
out
as
we're
suggesting
there
is
a
hidden
Zone
on
it
that
didn't
quite
come
out
or
perhaps
I
missed
that,
but
there's
a
holding
zone
on
it
so
that
all
of
these
things
can
be
addressed.
E
It's
also
intends
to
hold
the
design
competition
for
this
working
with
also
with
the
neighbors
and
as
the
the
urban
design
review
and,
of
course,
state
plan
approval.
So
a
lot
of
rigorous
review
ahead.
Today's
a
waypoint
in
going
forward
with
this,
and
we
ask
the
committee
to
approve
the
applications.
Thank
you
thank.
A
You
know
just
on
personal
note,
I
think
it's
a
exceptional
that
we
have
two
churches
on
the
agenda:
two
important
choices
that
played
a
big
role
in
the
downtown
Ottawa
life
right,
the
history
of
our
of
it
and
have
them
both
on
today,
and
you
know
whether
you
were
supportive
of
South,
Minster
or
not.
I
was
a
that's
a
beautiful
Renaissance,
it's
like
a
renaissance
for
the
churches,
but
at
a
time
when
they
desperately
need
it.
So
thank
you
both
from
last
speaker
today
is
Michael
Pollan.
E
E
It's
a
standard
provision
of
any
contract
for
construction
that
the
general
contractor
carry
construction
insurance
to
guard
against
that
very
issue.
The
question
of
damage
during
the
construction
period
and
without
giving
code
any
legal
advice,
I'm
sure
miss
Paris
can
do
that.
For
me,
any
damage
done
during
the
construction
process
would,
of
course,
be
the
liability
of
All
Saints
and
through
All
Saints,
its
general
contractor's.
So
no
concern
need
be
had
about
that.
E
E
This
committee,
far
better
than
I,
will
be
used
to
concerns
of
communities
being
expressed.
This
was
an
example
of
a
community
that
put
action
behind
activism.
It
wanted
to
preserve
this
church.
It
wanted
to
make
sure
that
it
remained
for
the
benefit
of
the
community
for
generations,
and
rather
than
just
hoping
that
it
would
and
and
prevailing
upon
a
developer
to
do
so.
It
became
its
own
developer,
and
this
is
not
a
a
group
that
has
gotten
together
for
the
purposes
of
making
money.
E
A
E
A
D
E
D
For
the
jews,
Ashcombe
notice
consist
Rocky's
eglise,
a
Kerala
Tamil
lossky
film,
della
musica
Venus
context
is
Adama
Anita
record,
not
l,
don't
care
Guillermo
support,
Roger,
buku,
buku
Dupree.
If
tomorrow's
a
job
well
done,
arzga
culture,
more
adversely,
Lidia
types,
plowed
suitable
design,
don't
care
or
Dennis
Archer
can
tip
you.
Oliver
ISA,
gamma,
a
deputies,
afar
commuter
la
preservation,
deck
sit,
new
co-op,
laude
Zafar
program,
the
Sevilla
poor,
poor
leavening,
messy.
A
A
D
Okay,
go
ahead,
Sean,
whatever
you
ready.
Okay
good
morning,
madam
chair
and
committee
members,
my
name's
Sean
Moore
I'm
the
city's
planner
and
file
deed
for
this
project.
It's
an
official
plan
amendment
and
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
3071
Riverside
Drive.
The
site
is
home
to
the
forum
on
Bayview
school.
It's
approximately
four
hectares
in
size.
It's
located
immediately
south
of
the
movies
Bay
place,
it's
located
east
of
Riverside
Drive
and
Mews
Bay.
So
it's
located
north
of
Walkley
Road
and
the
private
condo
development
with
immediately
buddy.
The
property
is
beach
view.
D
D
Application
is
also
to
other
applications,
a
site
plan
and
a
plan
of
subdivision
I'll
walk
you
through
the
site
plan,
just
to
illustrate
what
the
the
applicant
would
end
up
input
how
they
would
implement
this
zoning
and
Official
Plan
Inanna
through
their
site
plan
around
the
northern
perimeter
of
the
property
of
proposed
26
townhouse
units
ranging
in
size
from
bungalows
to
two-story
Abedini.
The
existing
Holy
Trinity
school
is
312
unit,
low-rise
apartment
buildings,
totaling
36
units,
we're
on
the
south
of
the
property,
would
be
a
1.5
acres
city
park.
D
Fronting
on
the
river
Riverside
Drive
is
a
proposed
mixed-use
building
a
three
stories:
ground-floor
commercial
retail,
with
48
units
above
in
the
two
stories
above
in
the
middle
of
the
site,
is
a
proposed
retirement,
home
and
care
facility,
and
that
would
be
a
six
story.
Building
with
about
513
minutes,
the
entire
property
would
underneath
the
the
I
mean
mixed-use
building
would
have
an
underground
garage.
D
Access
to
the
property
would
be
directly
from
into
Riverside
Drive
only
for
vehicles.
The
subject
property
is
in
the
Official
Plan
as
general
urban
area.
The
general
urban
areas
intended
for
a
full
range
of
housing
choices
for
incomes,
ages
and
life
circumstances
also
permits
retail
institutional
uses,
service,
commercial
and
leisure
uses.
The
subject
sites
also
subject
to
the
Riverside
Park
secondary
plan
in
volume,
2,
a
of
the
Official
Plan,
the
site's
designated
institutional.
D
The
existing
zoning
is
institutional
in
this
again
reflects
the
formal
past,
currently
the
zone
of
institutional
permits,
a
retirement
home
in
a
care
facility
and
also
permits
things
such
as
schools
and
acres.
The
existing
hyper
mission
is
15
years
and
existing
setbacks
are
7.5
meters
to
adjacent
property
lines.
D
The
application
before
us
is
to
amend
the
secondary
plan.
The
secondary
plan
amendment
is
proposed
to
go
from
institutional
to
a
new
low
rise
residential
area
around
the
northern
eastern
portions
of
the
property.
This
area
would
permit
the
townhouses
and
low-rise
apartments.
It's
also
proposed
to
go
from
institutional
to
Park,
to
implement
the
future
city
park
on
the
southern
property
line,
and
it
would
be
proposed
to
go
from
institutional
to
mixed-use,
residential
commercial,
which
would
implement
the
proposed
mixed-use.
D
The
proposed
zoning
I'll
just
go
along
the
same
lines
in
terms
of
the
Nolan
property
line,
would
be
opposed
to
rezone
from
institutional
to
an
r32,
implement
the
townhouse
units
abutting
the
holy
cross,
so
the
Holy
Cross
school
area,
D
on
the
map
above
us,
would
be
in
our
four
zone.
Implementing
the
low-rise
residential
units
area
II
would
be
rezone
201
to
implement
the
park
area.
A
would
be
rezone
to
a
general
mixed
use
zone
to
implement
the
mixed-use
building
in
area.
D
Also
attached
to
recommendations
or
is
a
zoning
schedule,
so
staff
have
put
in
a
maximum
building
limited
height
and
I'll.
Just
walk
you
through
the
heights
of
the
schedule,
the
low-rise
residential
or
the
townhouse
units
area.
D
will
be
capped
at
two
stories
or
8
meters
AE,
which
represents
the
low-rise
apartments,
would
be
capped
at
3.5
stories
area
B,
which
is
a
three
story.
D
Mixed-Use
building
you
will
be
capped
at
three
stories
in
Area,
C,
the
retirement
home
and
care
facility
would
have
a
schedule
attached
to
it,
which
caps
at
six
storeys
in
height
I'll
just
leave
you
with
the
images
of
the
proposed
site
plan
for
us
before
us
right
now.
The
image
of
the
top
is
a
look
of
view
from
the
other
side.
D
Drive
looking
at
the
proposed
to
restore
mixed-use
building,
the
middle
image
is
behind
is
the
retirement
home
behind
that
which
represents
the
six
story
which
I'm
at
home
care
facility
and
then
there's
some
images
of
the
townhouses
proposed
and
illustrating
some
of
the
grading
on
the
property
which
actually
makes
the
two-story
towns
read
as
a
one-story
from
behind
that's
my
presentation.
If
you
have
any
questions,
we
have
a
dance
room
thanks.
A
A
Okay,
we're
going
to
go
two
delegations
first,
but
for
the
benefit
of
the
delegations,
I
think
because
we
already
have
them
councillor.
Brockington
is
going
to
move
a
couple
of
motions
that
he
has
and
while
he's
doing
that,
I'm
going
to
ask
Frank
Wilson,
who
is
on
the
board
of
directors
of
CCC
585
wherever
you
gardens
to
come
forward
and
take
a
seat
and
while
accounts
are
walking
to
that
letting
us
know
the
motions.
Thank.
C
A
C
So,
madam
chair,
there
are
two
motions
that
are
coming
from
me,
definitely
coming
from
me
now.
The
first
is
titled
separation
of
report
recommendations.
It's
lengthy
I'm
not
going
to
read
it
there.
The
net
difference
is
nothing.
It
just
separates
out
how
we're
going
to
vote
on
the
proposal
so
I'd
like
to
have
a
separate
vote,
particularly
on
the
commercial
residential
component,
and
that
is
spliced
out
in
that
and
that
motion
the
other
motion
is
titled.
Reduction
in
height
I
am
going
to
read
it.
C
It's
very
brief,
whereas
at
the
proposed
building
height
for
the
mixed-use
building
is
three
stories
and
13.5
meters,
whereas
the
mixed-use
building
fronts
on
Riverside,
Drive
and
the
desired
height
is
two
storeys,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
the
height
of
the
mixed-use
building
be
limited
to
two
storeys
and
be
it
FURTHER
RESOLVED
that
there
be
no
further
notice
pursuant
to
subsection
34:17
of
the
Planning
Act,
so
I
just
want
the
delegations
and
the
committee
to
be
aware
of
those
two
definite
motions
that
are
being
put
on
the
floor
now.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
E
You
good
morning,
everyone
it's
good
to
be
here.
My
name
is
Frank
Wilson
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
the
Board
of
Directors
and
residents
of
Riverview
gardens,
we're
a
community
of
8710
homes,
directly
abutting.
This
development
on
the
South
perimeter,
we're
at
the
last
critical
juncture.
Nine
years
after
a
community
consultation
process
began
regarding
this
property.
After
years
of
planning
and
consultation
in
cooperation
with
local
residents
and
community
groups.
E
E
Sadly,
but
there
are
at
least
two
other
proposals
submitted
that
we're
much
closer
and
designed
to
the
existing
Riverside
Park
secondary
plan,
so
the
community
voice
has
been
ignored
once
again
and
despite
the
RFP
scorecard,
it
really
does
come
down
to
the
highest
bid.
I'd
like
to
talk
about
density
for
a
moment.
Well,
the
city
doesn't
actually
have
definitions
of
what
constitutes
low,
medium
and
high
density,
which
we
believe
it
should
have.
E
Cmhc
sensibly
uses
the
number
of
residential
units
per
acre
of
urban
land
quantity
in
area.
It
seems
reasonable
to
us
this
110
acre
parcel
of
land,
it
measures
250
yards
by
a
hundred
90
yards
or
roughly
two
and
a
half
football
fields
by
two
football
fields.
It's
not
that
big,
really
to
suggest
that
low-density
housing
will
be
built
on
the
perimeter
of
the
property
on
the
north
and
east
perimeter
with
medium
density
in
the
middle
is
just
kind
of
ridiculous.
E
If
you
look
at
that
image
there,
it's
a
10
acre
parcel
of
land,
so
whether
you
put
what
you
call
low-density
around
the
perimeter
and
medium
density
in
the
middle,
it's
huge
by
any
measure
according
to
the
CMHC's
numbers
that
hold
a
number
of
residential
units
per
acre
at
the
upper
end
for
medium
density
is
36.
That
means
that
a
property
such
as
this
one
should
have
no
more
than
360
residential
units
on
it.
E
In
our
opinion,
the
planners
have
not
acted
in
the
interest
of
the
residents
of
Riverside
Park,
despite
repeated
assertions
that
our
concerns
foremost
importance
to
the
city.
In
addition,
staff
is
putting
forth
a
recommendation
that
contravenes
the
city's
own
policy.
Eight
point
four
point:
two
residential
area
B,
which
states
to
require
that
the
intensity
of
a
new
development
proposal
not
detract
from
the
quality
of
life
of
existing
residents.
The
canoe
Bay
proposal
will
severely
detract
from
our
quality
of
life,
so
is
public
consultation.
Nothing
more
than
an
illusion
of
democracy.
E
Is
the
role
and
responsibility
of
the
planning
committee
to
hold
staff
accountable
for
recommendations
that
they
bring
forth,
ensuring
that
these
recommendations
are
in
compliance
with
city
policies.
This
one
is
clearly
recommendation
that
ought
to
go
back
to
staff
for
a
second
third
or
even
fourth,
look.
E
We
would
welcome
that
motion.
It
would
be
a
demonstration
that
the
city
is
accountable
to
its
residents.
Developers
will
always
make
the
argument
that
they
require
approval
of
their
plans
for
over
development
in
order
to
make
them
financially
viable.
That
is
not
the
case
as
clearly
illustrated
by
the
two
closest
runner-up
bids.
The
level
of
density
proposed
by
canoe
Bay
is
just
not
needed
to
make
this
thing
work.
Clearly,
there's
got
to
be
room
for
compromise
here
between
the
city
and
canoe
Bay.
Today,
this
matters
another
item
on
your
agenda
to
us.
E
E
Here's,
a
small
excerpt
of
the
result,
is
posted
on
Ottawa
CA
once
adopted,
the
public
engagement
strategy
will
help
ensure
that,
when
the
City
of
Ottawa
staff
seek
input
on
issues
that
they
do
so
in
a
manner
that
meets
public
expectations
comprised
of
guidelines
and
a
supporting
toolkit,
the
strategy
will
be
an
essential
component
to
trust
and
credibility
in
the
process.
Sir.
E
E
E
You
so
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
discussion
of
the
the
process
in
your
presentation,
but
you
made
one
statement
that
I
think
is:
is
the
important
one
Oh
with
respect
to
a
detriment
to
the
quality
of
life
I,
just
I
confirmed
with
councillor
brockington
there's
going
to
be
a
signal
at
the
the
southern
junction
of
the
the
roads.
Is
that
confirm,
that'll
be
a
signalized
intersection.
D
E
E
E
It's
the
presence
of
over
600
residential
units
on
a
10
acre
plot
of
land.
So
it's
the
sheer
impact.
The
volume
the
size
of
the
survey
I
need
to
understand
that
sheer
impact.
What
are
the?
What
are
the
negative
impacts
that
you
expect
on
quality
of
life
of
the
nearby
residents
lower
in
my
place?
I
look
out
my
back
window,
so
you
see
it.
Oh
we're
going
to
see
it.
Okay,
yeah
it's
I
mean
it's
massive,
we're
not
opposed
to
the
development.
It
only
makes
sense.
City
bought
this
land,
it
used
to
be
a
school.
E
You
can't
sit
on
it
forever,
although
we've
enjoyed
you
sitting
on
it
for
a
while,
but
to
come
up
with
a
proposal
that
claims
that
many
residential
units,
our
concern,
is
the
absence
of
a
policy
that
addresses
what
exactly
is
medium
density,
because
by
all
definitions
that
are
out
there,
this
is
extremely
high
density
development.
So
that's
our
Conservatives,
it's
not
even
about
traffic.
It's
about
the
the
sheer
volume
of
people
who
are
going
to
be
living
there
and
then
the
composition
of
the
structures.
It
says
there
are
two
buildings:
I
count:
five
there.
E
D
The
the
proposed
will
be
about
150
units
per
net
hectare
and
we
in
the
staff
report
or
reviewed
on
impacts
in
terms
of
setbacks,
transitioning,
where
the
access
is
light,
pollution,
noise
living
spaces,
the
architectural
design
of
the
building,
the
provision
of
parking
on
site.
So
we
look
at
from
impacts
and
if
they
would
adversely
impact
their
the
community
in
the
rel
review,
we
we
to
be
satisfactory.
Okay,
sir.
C
You
mr.
Wilson,
for
your
presentation
and
for
being
the
member
of
your
board
of
directors
on
this
file.
The
proposal
from
canoe
Bay
is
an
age
in
place
village
or
a
community
where
you
can
move
into
a
home
downsize
into
an
apartment,
building
go
into
another
building
with
extended
care.
Do
you
have
any
concerns
with
that
model,
in
particular
as
its
proposed
in
this
community?
That's.
E
A
good
question,
actually
no
I
love
the
concept
seniors
make
great
neighbors
are
not
that
far
away
from
peeing
one
myself,
I
guess.
One
long-term
concern
is
what,
if,
for
whatever
reason
canoe
Bay
decides
to
or
is
forced
to
sell
this
development
who's
going
to
buy
it?
You
know
someone
like
Mentos
that
says:
hey
we'll,
take
that
what
happens
to
all
of
the
protections
in
place
to
ensure
that
it
remains
a
seniors
retirement
community.
E
What
what
is
in
place
to
prevent
them
from
opening
it
up
to
renting
to
the
highest
bidder
or
converting
it
to
condos
and
selling
it?
What
you're
not
opposed
to,
but
or
turning
it
into
a
project,
so
yeah
I
mean
the
whole
Riverside
Park
community
is
a
low-density,
family-oriented,
very
residential
community,
and
we
don't
I
mean
there
are
only
a
couple
of
high-rise
apartments
in
the
area.
So
that
would
be
my
concern.
Councillor
Brockington
Thanks
thank.
A
B
Hello,
my
name
is
Eva.
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
speak
back
directly
on
to
the
proposed
development
for
19
years
density
is
my
biggest
concern,
as
it
will
adversely
affect
my
privacy
enjoyment
of
my
home,
and
my
neighbors
have
expressed
the
same
city
says
they
have
no
density
figures,
and
yet
our
neighborhood
is
described
as
quality
following
density
form
from
the
disposal
strategy,
an
established,
low
and
medium
density,
residential
neighborhood.
B
The
secondary
plan
for
the
Riverside
Park
says
low
density
is
a
predominant
housing
type
and
gives
reference
to
high
density
as
being
the
Denver
area
permits
and
the
northern
apartments.
With
the
canoe
a
proposal,
we
will
exceed
the
high
density
as
described
in
the
secondary
plan.
We
are
getting
five
six
story:
apartments,
33.5
story,
apartments,
two
mixed-use
buildings
which
told
the
size
of
Redwood
mom.
The
townhouses
are
so
crammed
in
that
there
will
be
full
backyards
against
my
one.
B
This
development
is
on
the
high
side
of
high
density,
based
on
the
secondary
plan,
described
description
of
what
high
density
is
with
density
descriptions
that
I
have
already
read.
How
does
canoe
bays
development
fit
into
the
policies
that
speak
of
building
into
the
scale
and
character
of
the
existing
community?
Canoe
Bay
is
now
seeking
a
new
low-rise
residential
land
use
well,
which
will
not
only
change
the
secondary
plan,
but
I
believe
will
else
will
allow
canoe,
Bay
or
any
other
developer
to
reapply
and
change
the
townhouses
into
four-story
apartments
as
a
land
use
allows
this.
B
We
have
already
seen
this
happening
throughout
the
city
and
canoe
Bay
has
already
taken
advantage
of
the
land
use
to
increase
the
height
of
the
mixed-use
from
the
proposed
two-story
to
three,
even
though
it
is
contrary
to
the
initial
winning
bid
to
OC
LDC.
We
we
were
not
protected
here.
So
what
will
protect
us
from
the
townhouses?
Not
turning
into
four-story
apartments?
A
buffer
was
promised
to
the
residents
to
provide
separation
between
and
the
new
development.
B
It
was
included
to
the
report
to
fedko
ocl
DC's
IFO,
the
original
concept,
community
concept
plan,
the
2016
concept
plan,
the
disposal,
strategy
and
canoe
bays
women
bid
to
ocl
DC
all
had
the
buffer.
The
disposal
strategy
strategy
shows
maps
with
a
substantial
buffer
size.
If
it
was
not
of
some
significant
size,
then
why
would
it
say
that
it
can
be
resumed?
The
community
compromised
because
of
the
city
not
wanting
to
maintain
a
pathway?
Their
fort
was
to
be
incorporated
into
the
minimum
setback.
B
Hindsight
would
say
that
we
should
have
never
compromised,
because
this
buffer
has
now
been
eliminated.
Another
indication
of
the
bulk
of
massive
size
of
this
development.
How
can,
how
can
the
buffer
be
arbitrarily
removed
when
it
is
in
all
the
documents
this
community
has
had
a
number
of
in
Justices.
Our
wishes
are
being
ignored,
whereas
what
the
city,
city
and
developers
want
are
being
done.
Why
our
community
concept
plan
was
arbitrarily
changed
without
any
community
consultation
and
to
better
suit
the
developer.
B
Osi
LDC
put
out
an
RFA
without
any
transparency
or
community
or
accounts
consultation
with
the
community
that
are
number
two
which
was
more
closely
aligned
to
the
community
concept
plan.
Had
no
mixed
use
was
rejected
by
OSI
LDC,
whereas
canoe
Bay,
who
won
based
on
the
bid
they
put
in
after
winning
changed
it
by
removing
the
buffer.
The
50
single-family
bungalows
are
now
26
townhouses,
with
some
being
two-story
increase
the
square
footage
of
the
commercial
and
increased
the
height
of
the
mixed-use
two
three-story.
Again
all
of
the
speaks
of
bulk
and
massive
density.
B
This
community
was
well
worthy.
The
intensification
criteria
of
the
city
are
compromised
with
one
apartment
of
six
storey
abutting
the
school
and
church,
which
is
also
described
in
the
disposal
strategy
under
redevelopment
plan,
I
quote:
higher-density
abetting
existing
Izone
I
wonder
how
a
report
could
be
given
to
fedko
saying
no
change
when,
in
fact
the
entire
thing
has
changed.
I
believe
this
is
misrepresentation
again.
This
community
should
never
have
compromised.
I
am
also
left
to
wonder
how
policies
and
documents
can
be
written
and
not
followed.
I
quote
policy.
B
Eight
point
four
point:
two
residential
area
B
to
require
that
the
intensity
of
a
new
development
proposal
not
detract
from
the
quality
of
life
for
existing
residents.
I
wonder
how
people
that
don't
live
here
can
tell
me,
and
so
many
other
people,
that
this
massive
development
will
not
detract
from
the
quality
of
our
lives.
B
It
is
not
unreasonable
for
the
residents
to
be
expecting
a
development
that
follows
the
neighbourhood
in
character
and
scale,
who
is
protecting
us
who
cross-reference
that
all
the
documents
were
being
followed
I
respectively
ask
that
the
mixed
use
be
eliminated,
that
the
north
and
east
side,
section
c,
should
not
have
a
land
use
of
low-rise
residential,
allowing
up
to
four
storey
apartments,
as
there
is
a
difference
between
homes
and
apartments.
Section
c
is
the
only
sliver
of
low-density
land
and
please
reinstate
the
buffer
as
it
was
in
all
of
the
documents.
Thank
you.
A
Did
that
as
well
as
a
PNG
salesperson,
you
just
saying
that
that's
Procter
&
Gamble
that
was
very
well
I,
have
a
question.
First
I
also
have
asked
mr.
Smith
to
find
out
from
one
of
his
staff
how
they
determine
density
and
that
sort
of
thing,
because
you
your
that
the
first
person
that
has
said
talked
about
bulk
and
mass
of
density
and
I
think
that
we
should
have
that
kind
of
information.
E
D
B
Well,
my
thing
is
this:
those
are
permit
buildings
that
are
in
the
center.
They
are
five
five
of
them
and
all
the
windows
that
are
facing
us,
like
my
backyard,
is,
is
my
oasis
to
go
into
and
relax
I'm
going
to
have
all
those
windows
staring
into
my
backyard.
So
there
was
going
to
be
no
time
at
all
that
I'm
going
to
be
able
to
sit
out
there
without
feeling
that
I've
got
eyes
peering
on
me.
So
yes,
it's
that's
how
it's
going
to
detract
from
from
my
quality
of
life,
okay,.
E
B
Like
you,
don't
see
our
properties
that
are
backing
against
the
so-called
low-density,
because,
really
when
you
look
at
this
I
guess
when
I'm
having
an
issue
within
all
of
this,
is
there
is
a
the
Riverside
Park
secondary
plan,
which
does
describe
density
and
the
earthly
that
they're
proposing
is
not
in
keeping
to
what
low
density
is
in
our
area.
Our
three
is
actually
considered
medium
density,
so
really
with
all
the
documents
that
went
out
and
went
in
front
of
fedko,
ocl,
DC
and
all
of
those
people
like
it
was
all
described
as
low
density.
B
In
essence,
that's
no
longer
low
density
and
they're
actually
seeking
to
have
change
the
second,
a
Riverside
secondary
plan.
Just
to
show
you
what
the
density
is
now
call
it.
Low-Rise
residential
doesn't
exist
in
the
in
the
current
description
of
the
Riverside
secondary
plan.
This
is
something
they're
adding
so
that
further
shows
how
dense
they're,
making
it
they've.
If
you
and
unfortunately,
you
can't
see
it
where
houses
are,
but
the
lot
lines.
If
you
look.
E
Yes
and
okay
see
the
one
that's
out
there
that
we
always
said
it.
It
seems
to
be
builded
in
the
plans.
We
didn't
know
why
it's!
Actually
you
can
see
it.
That
would
be
our
house
there.
So,
as
you
can
see
directly
behind
us,
there
would
be
four
rear
neighbors,
that's
a
sort
of
do.
You
know
the
size
you're
about
character.
We
have
skipped
five
feet
wide
fifty-five.
Oh
it's
not
that
abnormal
about
character,
anything!
So
no.
E
On
255
foot,
okay
at
7.5
meters
for
the
townhouses
which
to
them
are
two-story
in
the
middle
and
then
the
I
submit
written
comments
and
then
they
building,
which
is
around
45
to
50
meters,
according
to
staff,
which
is
actually
sort
of
abnormal
for
the
neighborhood,
because
the
current
spring
Glen
apartments,
their
peaks
and
they're,
like
propeller
shape.
So
at
the
the
closest
em
to
the
first
rear
facing
yard,
is
over
60
meters
and
actually
the
distance
gets
bigger
because,
as
the
wings
converge
together,
they
move
further
away
from
the
property's
canoe
BAE's
proposal.
C
Brock
another
question:
first,
first
I
want
to
thank
you.
Both
I
mean
I,
know,
you've
been
engaged.
We
may
not
have
agreed
on
every
issue,
but
I
sincerely
want
to
thank
you
for
your
engagement
and
your
analysis
and
your
questions,
and
you
know:
we've
had
some
private
conversations
and
I
know
the
angle
that
you're
coming
from
and
I
really
do
try
to
mitigate
as
best
I
can
to
concerns
of
yours
and
in
the
community
you've
lived
in
this
community,
whether
it's
a
school.
There
we've
been
there
20
years.
C
We
know
baby
well
when
it
was
there
and
for
people
who
don't
know
that
yellow
vertical
extension
used
to
be
a
road
so
that
not
a
road
but
a
roadway
to
come
off.
Muniz
Bay
place.
That
was
the
main
entry
point
to
get
to
the
school
to
schools
in
the
north
west
corner.
So
even
though
they
had
a
drop-off
zone
on
Riverside,
the
main
entry
point
to
the
school,
all
the
school
buses,
all
the
teachers
parents
and
was
only
wide
enough
to
go
one
way.
C
So
if
you
were
coming
in
off
of
Mini's
Bay
place
and
you
saw
the
buses
you
had
to
wait,
my
point
is
and
you've
raised
concerns
about
how
this
proposed
may
impact
you
and
you
think,
there's
going
to
be
negative
development.
I
would
just
like
to
know
when
there
was
a
school
there
with
350
kids,
with
probably
hundreds
of
vehicles
a
day
going
in
and
out
all
the
activities
that
a
school
has.
That
must
have
had
some
impact
on
you
as
well.
B
The
school
first
off
was
not
the
height
that
is
being
proposed
here.
That's
one
school
was
further
away
from
my
property
line.
That's
and
the
other
thing
is,
the
school
is
out
at
a
certain
time,
which
I
guess
was
2:30
3
o'clock
at
the
time.
So
everything
was
very
calm
afterwards
in
the
evening
they
don't
they're,
not
there
on
the
weekends.
So
on
the
weekends,
it
was
quiet
in
our
backyard.
It
was
quiet
in
the
evenings.
Now,
with
this
development,
the
hustle
and
bustle.
B
E
Plus
the
just
the
setbacks
is
the
fact,
the
town
houses
at
a
very
minimum
7.5
and
then
the
building
about
45
meters
and
45
to
50
cording
staff
report.
The
school
was
much
further
than
that
and
its
height
height
mass.
It's
going
to
be.
Basically
if,
if
the
committee
can
picture
it's
going
to
start
in
the
middle
of
my
backyards,
neighbor
to
the
west
and
travel
at
least
80
meters,
so
approaching
the
size
of
a
Canadian
football
field
in
length.
That's
just
my
heart
profile.
That's
facing
us
to
the
north
and.
B
E
Fact,
even
canoe,
Bay's,
illustrations
or
pop-up
board's
show
that
sort
of
a
picture
of
you
from
Muniz
Bay
place
of
omni's
Bay
place
how
those
buildings
rise
up
over
and
where
our
residences,
like
the
divorce
from
there
just
rise
right
up.
It's
going
to
be
massive,
and
this
we
feel
it's
going
to
have
a
very,
very
negative.
Well,
basically,
it's
going
to
make
our
backyards
unusable.
It's
gonna
take
that
privacy
can
I,
have
your
name
for
the
record:
I'm
Alan,
stone,
Alan,
Alan,
pizzelle,.
A
E
E
You
good
morning,
chairperson,
harder
and
councillors.
Thank
you
for
providing
me
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
you.
As
mentioned.
My
name
is
Craig
Solon
and
president
of
the
Riverside
Park
Community
and
recreations.
The
Association
we
represent
approximately
10,000
residents
in
Riverside,
Park
I
have
been
actively
involved
in
this
process
since
2008.
The
history
of
this
development
is
well
known.
The
community
developed
and
council
approved
the
concept
plan
in
2009
with
low
and
medium
density
and
no
commercial.
E
The
concept
plan
was
seen
as
a
compromise
between
a
possible
high
density
development
and
something
that
fit
the
character
in
nature
of
Riverside
Park.
We
knew
it
could
change,
but
didn't
expect
such
a
massive
difference
or
development
in
2016,
without
any
consultation
with
the
people
of
overside
Park,
the
Ottawa
community
lands
and
Development
Corporation
changed
in
secret.
The
community
developed
council
approved
concept
plan
and
I
must
note.
One
of
the
mandates
of
ocl
DC
is
to
maximize
profit
for
the
city.
Fedko
received
this
report
in
November
2016.
E
Surprisingly,
five
of
the
councillors
who
sit
on
ocl
DC
also
sit
on
fedko
and
we
believe
this
process
appears
incestuous
and
the
OSI
LDC
governance
needs
a
thorough
review.
The
casualties
of
this
deeply
flawed
process
include
the
Ottawa
Official
Plan
and
the
Riverside
Park
secondary
plan
laws
and
bylaws
intended
to
protect
people's
interests,
turned
out
to
be
disposable
guidelines.
Whenever
got
developer
comes
along
with
the
prospect
of
a
major
investment
city
planning
staff
work
with
the
developer
to
come
up
with
a
proposal
with
little
or
no
unbiased
oversight
at
fedko
in
November
2016.
E
The
mayor
and
council
are
hardier,
told
us,
it
was
only
a
concept
plan
and
they
would
work
with
us
and
our
counselor
to
make
sure
the
community's
interests
were
protected
and
heard.
We
are
asking
you
to
do
that
now.
We
are
not
against
this
development.
In
fact,
we
have
supported
three
other
developments
in
Riverside
Park.
We
are
against
certain
aspects
of
this
development
and
the
process.
Even
if
you
support
the
development,
your
conscience
should
lead
you
to
vote
no
because
of
this
flawed
process.
E
The
answer
is
provided
by
staff
and
their
lack
of
timely
nuts
are
not
satisfactory.
Staff
have
not
listened
to
the
opinions
of
the
residents
and
have
minimized
our
concerns
in
the
final
report
to
you,
the
community
needs
the
support
of
our
elected
representatives
secondary
plans,
which
are
a
part
of
Ottawa's
official
plan,
take
precedence
over
zoning.
E
The
canoe
played
proposal
does
not
conform
to
the
Riverside
Park
secondary
plan,
where
it
states
future
development,
with
the
will
be
compatible
in
scale
and
character,
with
the
existing
neighborhood
to
maintain
the
quiet,
health,
healthy
and
safe
way
of
life.
Any
changes
to
the
other
side
park
secondary
plan
that
are
required
in
order
to
enable
this
development
should
be
discussed
and
made
clear
to
the
stakeholders
through
a
separate,
formal,
mandatory
process.
This
proposal,
as
you've
heard
several
times
today,
has
too
much
density
for
this
site.
E
E
In
October
2016
indicated,
the
key
difference
of
the
new
plan
is
the
addition
of
a
mixed-use
area
along
Riverside
Drive
that
is
proposed
to
accommodate
two-story
construction
that
includes
small-scale
neighborhood
commercial
use
on
the
ground
floor
with
residential
on
the
second
storey,
canoe
Bay
originally
proposed
two
storeys
that
has
now
changed
this
unilaterally
to
three,
which
contradicts
and
violates
the
city's
own
report
the
fed
go.
How
can
this
be?
Is
this
legal?
We
asked
you
our
elected
representatives,
to
pass
a
motion
to
change
this
back
to
the
originally
proposed.
E
Two
storeys
density
has
also
been
increased
along
the
north
side
of
this
development.
Changing
the
original
bungalows
to
two
storeys.
We
ask
you
to
change
this
back
to
the
bungalows
as
originally
proposed,
and
also
to
make
the
the
buffer
on
the
north
side
larger,
to
match
the
buffer
on
the
east
side.
These
minor
changes
would
be
a
compromise,
would
match
the
original
proposal
of
canoe
Bay
and
would
go
a
long
way
in
restoring
the
community's
faith
in
the
process
in
our
elected
representatives.
To
sum
up,
the
community
is
tired
of
this
process.
E
D
E
E
E
Madam
chair,
this
point,
I
know
there
is
not
the
focus
in
terms
of
our
second
day
of
planning
in
the
context
of
our
current
official
plan
is
really
focused
around
areas
where
significant
change
is
contemplated
in
other
areas,
there
may
be
existing
secondary
plans
that
have
some
history
attached
to
them,
but
there's
no
intention
of
revisiting
them.
The
primary
policies
in
the
plan
are
really
looked
at
as
the
primary
elements
of
guidance
and
then
as
augmented
by
any
secondary
plan
policy.
So
it's
not
something
that's
on
a
work
plan,
it's
not
something.
E
We've
identified
missus
or
when
you
take
a
look
around
Riverside
and
the
the
environs
of
this
particular
development.
What
do
you
see
in
terms
of
other
parcels
that
might
eventually
move
in
this
same
direction?
Well
with
three
other
developments
that
are
currently
on
the
table.
You've
had
one
this
morning
or
was
on
the
agenda.
The
Youth
Services
Bureau
on
the
other
two
are
Norbury,
which
would
be
I
would
consider
high
density
and
770
Brookfield,
which
is
five
or
six
hundred
units.
E
So
it
I've
heard
from
other
two
speakers
here
and
you
asked
the
question:
what's
the
impact
I
find
the
impact
to
be
going
to
be
noise
traffic
along
Riverside,
Drive
and
Walkley
is
going
to
increase
exponentially,
as
we
all
know,
with
retiring
seniors.
There's
paramedics
there's
ambulances,
this
family's
visiting
them
Riverside
Drive
is
already
a
busy
busy
highway,
granted
it's
arterial,
but
in
the
mornings
and
the
evenings
trying
to
get
down
that
Street
is
unbelievable.
You
can't
do
it.
It's
packed.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
mr.
Scholl.
Thank
you.
In
addition
to
being
the
president
of
the
Community
Association
in
the
local
resident,
you
have
probably
immersed
yourself
more
in
this
issue
than
I've
seen
any
other
president
of
the
Community
Association.
You
have
taken
this
to
heart
and
I.
Think
you
and
I
have
had
how
many
meetings
may
30
40,
depending
on
this
item.
So
we've
certainly
discussed
this
at
length.
C
At
the
beginning
of
this
meeting,
I
put
a
motion
on
the
floor
for
the
committee
to
contemplate
and
members
of
the
public
to
consider
before
they
spoke
about
reducing
the
height
of
the
commercial
residential
strip,
fronting
Riverside
from
three
stories
to
two.
In
your
opinion,
what
would
be
the
advantages
for
the
community
if
the
committee
passes
that
motion
well.
E
I
would
implore
the
committee
to
to
pass
the
motion.
Not
only
was
that
what
was
originally
proposed
and
reported
to
fedko
two
stories,
it
would
help
with
the
sight
lines
of
the
seniors
in
the
residential
retirement
home,
allowing
those
in
the
fourth
stories
and
below
to
see
it
would
reduce
the
density
a
wee
bit
and
the
other
thing
that
I
would
point
out.
Is
the
I've
looked
up
this
on
the
weekend
schedule.
One
of
the
official
plan
identifies
Riverside
Drive
as
a
scenic
entry
route.
E
C
E
We
would
look
to
match
the
buffer
on
the
east
side
or
even
a
bigger
buffer,
at
least
that
if
they'd
be
the
same,
the
buffer
on
the
east
and
the
north
and
I
understand
on
the
South
part
of
the
development
there's
a
discretionary
1.5
meters
between
the
plan
Street
and
the
park.
So
even
if
you
can't
squeeze
it
in
in
the
north,
with
that
1.5
discretionary,
the
piece
of
property
between
the
street
and
the
park,
if
you
reduce
that
to
zero
or
0.5
or
1,
you
could
increase
the
buffer
on
the
north
side.
C
A
D
Leo
Tremblay
photon
consultants,
if
you
don't
mind,
I
may
steal
some
minutes
from
the
other
two
delegations
and
maybe
save
everyone
a
little
bit
of
time.
My
intent
is
not
to
revisit
the
staff
presentation
and
have
a
very
detailed
discussion
on
the
policies
again,
but
I
do
want
to
speak
to
a
few
themes,
including
density
quality
of
life,
certainty,
consultation,
the
city
does
not
define
in
their
official
plan
ranges
of
densities.
They
do
that
on
purpose.
The
intent
is
to
allow
a
detailed
measure
of
impacts
determine
what
the
appropriate
density
is
on
a
property.
D
You
have
an
over
ten
acre
property
here.
There
are
considerable
opportunities
to
advance
the
city's
desire
to
intensify
on
the
edge
of
communities.
This
is
not
a
parcel,
that's
strategically
located
within
the
Riverside
Park
community,
but
rather
on
the
edge
of
it
on
an
arterial
roadway
and,
as
you
heard,
is
defined
as
a
scenic
Boulevard
across
from
a
considerable
amount
of
municipal
and
federal
open
space
in
movies
they
Park
the
densities
are
mitigated
even
further.
If
you
look
at
the
typology
in
the
function,
this
is
not
a
600
and
623
unit
project.
D
That
is
exclusively
one
unit
typology.
It
has
a
range
of
units
ranging
from
bungalow
towns,
towns,
low-rise
departments,
retirement
home
residential
care
facility
and
apartments
within
a
mixed-use
building.
These
are
very
different
type
ologies
that
allow
for
a
complete
community
that,
as
you
would
hear,
from
Chris
Goren,
also
allow
for
various
peak
times
in
terms
of
traffic
issues
and
all
of
those
things.
D
This
is
a
very
complete
community,
not
a
blank
623
units
that
all
share
all
the
same
qualities,
so
it
helps
mitigate
some
of
the
potential
impacts
and
it
creates
that
diversity
of
community
that
the
general
urban
area
seeks.
You
also
heard
that
these
these
units
are
segregated
from
the
community.
They
are
not
you
heard
from
the
councilor
that
there
was
previous
connections,
roadway
connections,
pedestrian
connections
as
a
result
result
of
the
residential
school
in
this
case
here
sorry,
the
elementary
school
in
this
case
here,
the
only
connections
to
that
community
are
positive
ones.
D
The
pedestrian
connections
are
connections
via
a
new
municipal
park.
These
are
all
very
positive
contributions
to
that
community.
We
heard
the
issues
of
privacy
and
quality
of
life,
the
city
measures
density,
the
city,
measures
impacts
to
that
quality
of
life
simply
be
able
to
see
a
residential
building
of
a
greater
height
is
not
an
impact.
Impacts
are
measured
in
terms
of
shadowing
loss
of
privacy,
traffic
impacts,
taking
away
or
harming
other
properties.
This
project
is
not
doing
so.
10
acres
of
Ford's
canyou
Bay
an
opportunity
to
do
a
meaningful
transition.
D
R
1,
2,
R,
3,
ground
oriented
dwellings
is
a
very
comfortable
transition.
In
fact,
more
comfortable
than
then.
The
city
has
opportunity
to
look
at
in
other
projects
that
have
much
shallower
depth.
Now
you
heard
that
there's
very
strategic
placements
of
buildings,
for
instance
the
low-rise
apartments,
the
3.5
storey
apartments,
are
strategically
located
abutting
the
existing
elementary
school.
The
are
the
proposed
r3
is
in
proximity
to
existing
dwellings,
but
it's
it's
also
benefiting
from
a
7.5
rear
yard,
building
setback,
a
very
comfortable
transition
to
a
very
comparable
unit
type.
D
Clearly,
there's
been
some
dissatisfaction
from
that
community
as
to
how
the
city
managed
the
process,
but
can
you
bei
took
it
upon
themselves
to
supplement
that
there
was
two
large
public
meetings
attended
by
the
by
canoe
Bay
and
their
consultants.
There
were
kitchen
meetings,
there
was
direct
correspondence
to
the
community
associations.
There
was
consultation
with
the
city's
urban
design
review
panel,
which
was
not
required.
D
The
general
urban
area
doesn't
require
that
consultation
and,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
as
part
of
that
process,
the
you
DRP
spent
a
fair
amount
of
time
on
the
three-story
buildings
along
along
Riverside
Drive
Riverside
Drive
is
a
scenic
Boulevard.
A
considerable
amount
of
time
was
done
in
a
work
was
done
in
terms
of
the
placement
of
the
parking
which
you'll
notice
is
in
the
rear
of
the
buildings
and
in
no
way
affects
or
undermines
the
streetscape.
D
The
courtyard
between
the
two
buildings
was
enlarged
to
facilitate
certain
types
of
tenants
that
might
contribute
to
a
positive
streetscape
along
Riverside
and
benefit
from
what's
across
the
street,
which
is
Muniz,
Bay
Park,
a
lot
of
efforts
were
done.
The
fact
that
it's
a
three-story
building
in
part
is
because
there's
an
opportunity
to
provide
that
retail
and
still
retain
the
unit's,
then
that
loss
would
be
approximately
12
units
per
per
building,
which
is
not
a
positive
for
the
project
and
actually
a
marginal
reduction
in
density.
Okay,.
D
And
actually
because
I
spoke
so
quickly,
I
did
cover
a
lot
of
my
issues,
but
I
wanted
to
speak
to
the
issue
of
certainty.
There's
some
discomfort
in
the
community
that
this
could
be
another
of
a
bait-and-switch
I'll
point
you
to
two
things
number
one
is
the
the
proposed
zoning
is
very
much
shrink-wrapped.
Now,
it's
very
specific
in
terms
of
unit
type
ologies.
It
specifically
speaks
to
a
retirement
home
and
a
residential
care
building.
D
It
goes
to
great
efforts
to
shrink-wrap
this
proposal,
including
rear
yard
setbacks,
to
to
to
affirm
that
there
won't
be
any
encroachments.
In
addition
to
that,
the
city
is
the
vendor.
There
is
a
purchase
and
sale
agreement.
There
is
language
in
the
purchase
and
sale
agreement
that
prohibits
them
from
flipping
the
property,
and
the
city
has
a
buyback
clause
that,
if
first
of
all
they're
not
entitled
to
deviate,
but
if
they
were
or
if
they
were
to
sell
to
someone
else
who
was
intending
to
deviate,
the
city
would
purchase
the
lands
back.
D
E
The
motor
home
James
Gordon
and
the
project
architect
for
Bob
I,
he
architects,
a
person,
I'm
sure
you're,
all
familiar
with
most
of
the
bases,
have
been
covered.
Respect
to
some
of
the
comments
that
we've
heard
I
think
the
bigger
strategy
certainly
be
reviewed.
The
commercial
buildings
is,
as
Miguel
mentioned,
we
increase
the
spacing
between
the
buildings.
The
initial
proposal
was
actually
just
one
large
building.
We
initially
had
an
access
to
the
underground
parking
long
lot
along
Riverside.
E
It
was
recommended
through
you
DRP,
that
we
eliminate
that
and
we
agree
AIT's
that
create
a
little
bit
more
of
a
pedestrian
friendly
fuel
along
Riverside
Drive.
It
is
three
stories:
whoever
were
stepping
the
third
story
back
along
Riverside
to
try
to
minimize
that
visual
impact
as
people
are
going
down.
I
think
the
addition
of
the
signalized
intersection
is
going
to
have
a
very
positive
impact
on
traffic
calming
because
a
lot
many
times
during
the
day.
Riverside
is
essentially
a
highway
and
we
also
eliminated
the
through
access
out
through
that
tail
section
to
spring
land.
E
That
was
a
concern
that
was
brought
up
quite
early
on
in
our
process
and
just
encourages
cubes
of
conservative
life,
your
traffic
and
we
increase
that
back
to
where
we
could
someone
made
reference
to
the
1.5
meter
buffer
between
the
street
and
the
city
park
that
actually
came
from
a
direction
from
the
city,
because
we
had
looked
at
the
option
of
trying
to
increase
the
setback
along
the
north.
However,
it
was
causing
too
many
pinch
points.
The
drivers
were
going
to
be
deep
enough
to
satisfy
parking
for
visitors
if
what
wasn't
required.
E
So
we
did
increase
the
setbacks
along
the
east
for
the
townhouses
I
know
they
were
initially
called
bungalows,
but
from
the
strict
city
definition
of
a
townhouse,
and
they
will
always
townhouses
BSM
them
now
our
buffer
to
want
to
have
stories.
But
the
change
is
relatively
minimal
and
again
was
just
to
have
a
bit
more
of
a
variety
of
unit
type.
We
didn't
want
it
to
just
be
one
thing
as
as
Miguel
spoke
to
earlier
and
I'm
sure,
Chris
apollyon
have
some
comments,
so
I
think
I'll
leave
it
at
that
for
now,
Chris
thanks.
E
D
Given
that
I
still
see
time
on
the
clock,
I
will
choose
to
use
it
wisely,
but
revisiting
again.
The
issue
of
transition,
just
to
give
you
a
sense
of
scale.
The
separation
between
the
six
storey,
building
and
again
a
six
story
building
is
that
the
the
modest
end
of
a
mid-rise
building
category
it
is
technically
the
lowest
there's
approximately
40
meters
separation
between
the
edge
of
the
building
and
the
shared
property
line.
D
That
would
rejoice
with
having
that
kind
of
separation
between
a
six
story
building
and
an
existing
residential
community,
and
that's
what
this
property
affords
us
I
know
there's
been
comments
that
the
densities
are
quite
high,
but
this
is
quite
a
large
property
and
especially
if
you
factor
in
that
a
large
part
of
it
will
be
dedicated
to
a
new
municipal
park
to
try
to
affect
the
transition
to
the
dwellings
in
the
condo
corporation
to
the
south.
It
is
a
very
comfortable
transition.
D
There
was
discussion
in
James
touched
on
it
that
there
was
a
desire
to
have
a
a
common
land
buffer
along
some
of
the
perimeter,
but
the
approach
was
to
deepen
those,
those
the
lots
for
the
the
townhouses
and
the
bungalow
towns
and
and
if
it's
still
retained
that
buffer,
it's
just
not
called
out
a
buffer,
but
it's
very
deep,
deep
single
from
their
townhouse
blocks,
so
I'll
leave
it
for
questions.
Okay,.
A
D
Yeah,
maybe
just
a
small
clarification,
and
we
have
some
graphics
and
there
may
be
a
little
bit
more
helpful.
The
ratio
is
actually
more
like
2
to
2.5
townhouses
per
rear
yard
thinking,
through
maybe
some
examples
closer
to
yours,
the
madami
subdivision
that
is
a
budding
John
Wood
Street
in
Kanata
West,
for
instance,
there's
existing
homes,
don't
remember
the.
E
So,
madam
alive
so
time
ago,
I'll
just
interrupt
because
it's
going
to
be
a
long
day,
so
I've
shortened
this
up
a
bit
if
it's
2.5,
that's
great
is
a
document
somewhere.
That
shows
us
that,
because
clearly
the
residents
believe
it's
4
to
1,
so
I
think
it
would
help
councillor
Brock
went
in
brockington.
If
we
have
something
to
address
that.
If.
D
You
actually
this
one,
it
James
Kenneth
won't
circulate
the
paper
copy
there
that
to
two
members
of
the
committee.
That
I
can
tell
you
that,
having
done
a
lot
of
madami
subdivisions,
the
stuffing
can
add
a
north.
For
instance,
the
new
lot
layout
is
going
to
be
abutting,
some
existing
country
lot
subdivisions
and
the
ratio
of
singles
to
those
country
lot.
Subdivisions
is
probably
2
to
3
to
4
recall.
D
A
E
D
C
Councillor
Tierney,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
Mr.
Tremblay
I
think
I
heard
you
say
correctly
if
I'm
wrong,
that
the
original
buffer
that
was
being
proposed,
which
was,
in
addition
to
the
backyards
of
the
new
development
and
the
backyards
of
the
existing
homes,
was
eliminated,
and
the
trade-off
was
deeper
backyards
for
what's
being
proposed
now.
My
understanding,
though,
is
that
those
backyards
are
the
minimum
requirement
of
7.5
meters.
D
You
correctly
a
couple
points:
what
I'm
saying
is
that
the
commitment
to
provide
a
good
transition
through
that
buffer,
recognizing
that
there
was
an
interest
in
having
a
buffer
he's
articulated
through
this
planet?
I
think
the
r3
requires
six,
not
not
seven-and-a-half.
The
r1
requires
seven
and
a
half,
but
I
think
what
am
articulating
is
that
there
was
a
commitment
to
find
a
unit
typology
and
a
depth
that
actually
met
the
spirit
of
that
intent
through
a
buffer
and
then
recognizing
that
it's
important
so.
C
Four
members
of
the
committee,
the
the
original
concept
plan,
talked
about
a
buffer.
It
was
not
defined
whether
that
would
be
a
private
pathway
that
goes
from
Riverside
around
the
of
the
development
into
the
schoolyard.
There
was
concern
about
who
would
maintain
it.
Whether
people
would
hang
out
there
and
do
nasty
things,
and
even
if
the
buffer
was
eliminated,
which
I
think
there
there
was
a
willingness
of
the
community
to
let
go
of
the
buffer.
C
So,
if
you're
concerned
about
how
close
your
new
neighbors
and
these
buildings
will
be
a
greater
rear
yard
setback
other
than
the
basic
minimum
would
be
appreciated,
there
is
that
1.5
meters
in
the
south,
so
at
the
northern
tip
of
the
new
proposed
park,
there's
going
to
be
1.5
meters
of
let's
just
say
grass
before
the
road
starts.
How
feasible
is
it
to
take
some
of
that
land
and
to
add
it
to
the
northern
part
to
create
a
bigger
rear
yard
setback.
D
Well,
I
can
answer
part
of
it
and
maybe
the
applicant
can
answer
the
second
half
just
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
the
reason
why
there's
a
staff
of
ass
for
a
1.5
meter
buffer
between
a
drive
aisle
in
the
city
park
is
that
we
didn't
want
our
city
park
property
line
to
be
top
of
curb.
If
you
will,
we
wanted
room
for
all.
D
We
know
that
that
road
is
going
to
be
plowed
for
snow
and
we
knew
there'd
be
snow,
fall
on
our
snow
plowing
onto
the
the
property,
and
we
didn't
want
to
encumber
the
park
by
having
a
snow
bank
on
city
properties.
We
wanted
a
little
bit
of
a
buffer,
so
snow
could
pile
up
along
the
city
park
and
that's
that's
why
staff
had
asked
for
1.5
minimum
buffer
I
think.
D
Again,
the
the
additional
1.5
was
to
make
you
recall,
if
you
will
street
number
one
which
is
going
to
be
connecting
into
the
signalized
intersection
has
to
be
that's.
The
southernmost
street
has
to
be
properly
designed
that
interface
with
the
park
is
important.
I
mean
it's
the
main
entrance
into
the
property,
so
that
1.5
I
would
say,
is
more
valuable
in
that
specific
location
than
it
is
on
the
north
property
line.
D
I
I'm
trying
to
be
sympathetic,
but
at
the
same
time
I
it's
hard
for
me
to
to
answer
that
question,
because
even
in
suburban
communities
that
that
are
going
in
Kanata,
Wes
and
bar
Haven,
the
transition
isn't
even
that
subtle
it's
even
these
rear
yards
in
in
a
madami
subdivision
is
6
meters.
Witchcraft
is
doing
25
and
28
meter
deep
lots.
D
E
Now
you
know,
I
can
certainly
guarantee
that
we
hope
we
are
not
to
be
increasing
the
height
of
those
buildings
along
there.
I
just
had
one
quick
comment
to
the
1.5
liter
bubbler.
Another
mitigating
factor
was
that
we
were
initially
showing
street
lighting
along
the
southerly
edge
of
that
road
and
the
city
wanted
us
to
move
it
to
the
north
again
because
concerns
that
they
had
of
interference
between
their
property
and
ours.
The
challenge
then
became
how
do
we
prevent
light
from
spilling
onto
the
adjacent
property
at
the
park?
E
And
our
electrical
engineer
came
back
and
said:
it's
going
to
be
almost
impossible
to
get
the
adequate
foot-candles
that
we
would
require
for
street
lighting
while
also
not
spilling
onto
the
city
park,
and
so
when
this
1.5
meter
buffer,
in
fact,
I,
think
that
city,
initially
two
meters,
FL
recall
correctly,
we
came
back
and
said,
look
and
we
live
with
1.5.
Are
we
able
to
put
life's
there
so
we'll
mitigate
that
spillage,
concern
sieve
staff
agreed
like
this
would
be
the
best
approach
to
take
I.
D
Don't
you
don't
have
to
rely
on
a
client
for
that
certainty,
area
D
of
the
document
for
the
zoning
schedule
limits
the
heights
to
two
storeys
8
meters
and
there's
also
a
separate
area,
a
which
is
not
always
typical,
but
in
this
case
very
prescriptive
in
terms
of
the
very
odd
setback,
so
I,
don't
think
you
need
to
rely
on.
Can
you
bei?
You
have
the
zoning.
Madam.
C
A
A
C
Okay,
medium
density
buildings.
Permit
you,
as
an
ancillary
use
to
have
ground
floor
commercial
retail
in
them,
you'll
get
normal
buildings.
You
can
put
commercial
retail
in
those
buildings
in
the
middle.
Why
not
because
this
the
commercial
residential
strips
are
contentious.
This
has
been
a
question
that
comes
up
time
and
time
again
with
our
conversations
with
canoe
Bay,
but
I
want
this
committee
to
hear.
C
Why
does
your
client
believe
it
is
so
much
more
valuable
to
have
that
commercial
residential
strip
fronting
Riverside
and
not
incorporate,
since
those
businesses
are
going
to
be
serving
the
older
adults
that
live
here
anyway
and
not
incorporate
those
commercial
retail
enterprises?
The
piece
of
those
medium-density
buildings
I?
Don't.
A
A
The
benefits
are
not
going
to
be
just
for
otherwise,
you'd
have
a
canteen
and
one
of
the
long
term
care
of
things.
Obviously
their
businesses
or
commercial,
whatever
the
use
may
be
I'm
sure
people
can
even
walk
to
them
from
other
parts
of
the
area
along
Riverside
Drive.
But
do
you
have
any
comment
on
that?
I.
D
Do
there's
a
couple
of
considerations
number
one
recognizing
that
Riverside
Drive
is
a
scenic
Boulevard
and
also
immediately
abutting,
Muniz,
Bay,
Park
I.
Think
there's
an
obvious
synergy
and
the
range
of
of
tenants
could
be
restaurants,
for
instance
coffee
shops,
which
would
have
a
benefit
to
those
lands
as
well.
Ultimately,
you
want
successful
retail
space,
successful
commercial
space
and
putting
it
on
an
arterial
roadway
goes
a
long
way
to
that.
D
Yes,
those
commercial
spaces
are
intended
to
be
a
selling
feature
and
an
important
component
of
this
project,
but
it
also
is
an
opportunity
to
make
an
important
contribution
to
the
broader
community
and
have
them
use
it
as
well,
especially
if
they
are
a
range
of
restaurants
and
coffee
shops.
Putting
it
immediately
on
Riverside
also
discourages
commercial
traffic
from
coming
further
into
the
property,
and
people
are
going
to
be
living
there.
D
E
D
High
production,
you
Bay
doesn't
I,
don't
from
up
from
a
planning
perspective,
I,
don't
think,
there's
any
measure
of
impacts
that
that
want
us
reducing
the
heights,
especially
that
Riverside
Drive,
is
a
what
42
meter
wide
arterial
roadway.
The
proportions
are
not
unreasonable
and
actually
maybe
even
undersized.
What's
important
for
canoe.
Bay,
though,
is
if
they
want
to
introduce
the
retail.
There
has
to
be
a
sufficient
amount
of
residential
left
in
the
building
to
make
it
work,
otherwise,
they're
just
going
to
build
a
single-story
retail,
which
is
not
what
the
city
wants.
D
The
city
when
given
the
opportunity
when
there
are
no
impacts
when
traffic
considerations
are
mitigated
for
take
the
opportunity
and
do
a
mix
use
building
and
have
community
serving
retail,
reducing
the
height
would
eliminate
approximately
12
units
per
building.
So
it's
a
marginal
reduction
of
units
for
the
overall
project,
but
it's
a
significant
enough
reduction
in
each
of
those
buildings
to
make
them
unveil
for
a
construction
perspective.
So
the
city
loses
an
opportunity
in
a
scenario
where
there
are
no
actual
visual
impacts.
Thank
you.
Thank.
D
Diagram
yeah
on
that
one,
that's
up
so
just
to
understand
a
little
bit
what's
happening
on
the
site.
The
area
is
just
to
the
west
of
the
buildings.
It
looks
like
they're.
There
l-shape
looks
like
a
green
area
of
some
what's
happening
in
those
areas.
What's
the
idea
for
what
will
future
residents
see
in
those
areas
between
the
commercial
plaza
and
the
actual
mass
of
the
structure?
So.
E
As
you
bring
to
the
courtyards
between
the
main
buildings
teacher,
your
core
parts
right,
those
are
going
to
be
private,
will
be
fenced
off
just
from
the
security
perspective
and
right
now,
we're
currently
working
with
the
landscape
designer
and
our
interior
designer
to
have
some
outdoor
amenity
spaces,
so
they'll
be
probably
like
outdoor
barbecues
and
fireplaces
and
permanent
seating
covered
areas.
We're
looking
at
the
idea
of
having
maybe
some
raised
planters
for
gardens
from
the
community
herbal
gardens.
That
type
of
thing
so
there'll
be
a
variety
of
uses
at
the
ground
floor.
E
D
Will
there
be
a
multi-use
pathway
or
something
or
what's
the
way
in
which
people
will
be
able
to
access
the
retail
space?
So,
as
I
mentioned
before,
there's
a
there's
another
application
before
the
staff,
upon
a
subdivision
and
through
the
plan
of
subdivision
application,
that
staff
will
be
taking
a
service
easement
over
what
you
see
is
called
phase
2,
so
that
Serpa
season
will
act
as
a
pathway,
cycling,
pathway
from
spring
line
drive
into
the
city
park,
accessing
the
signalized
intersection
that
the
applicant
will
be
constructing
to
Muniz
Bay
Park.
Okay,
thank
you.
E
E
So,
and
and
and
they'd
be
distributed
both
north
and
south,
depending
on
the
type
of
trip
and
timeframe
of
the
day.
Do
you
know
what
the
the
volume
is
currently
on?
Riverside
yeah?
It's
it's
up
there
as
far
as
busy
roads
in
our
city
ago,
so
it
could
be
anywhere
from
1500
to
to
1700
vehicles
an
hour
now.
One
thing
is
interesting:
I
mean
I,
know:
councilor
Brockington
worked
on
getting
that
signal
there.
C
E
Where
is
the
nearest
old
train
station,
so
it
is
a
long
walk.
We
kinds
you
get
over
to
the
trillion
light.
Is
there
a
nice
that
will
take
people
well,
would
simply
directly
from
Riverside
to
that
station,
I
believe
so
we
we.
We
took
a
look
at
the
the
transit
service
just
from
an
existing
conditions
perspective.
So
there
is
a
route
along
Riverside.
E
There
is
a
route
along
Berkeley
and
spring
land
also
has
some
transit
service
in,
and
our
main
comment
from
OC
Transpo
is
that
they
are
looking
for
a
good
quality
bus
stop
at
that
signalized
intersection.
So
as
we
work
through
the
detailed
design
which
we've
just
initiated
and
we'll
be
looking
to
make
sure
that
that
integration
works
well
and
to
the
satisfaction
of
OC
Transpo,
do
you
have
an
idea?
What
your
mobile
shows
would
be
on
this?
E
It's
an
interesting
discussion,
so
we
have
used
relatively
all
st.
normal
modal
shares
because
of
this
agent
place
type
of
of
scenario
that
we're
looking
at.
We,
we
can't
go
and
say:
oh,
this
is
a
perfect
Tod.
No,
it's
it's
more
traditional,
so
I
I
came
over
exactly
the
number,
but
I
think
our
modal
share
was
kind
of
in
the
25
percent.
E
Transit
modal
share
was
25
percent,
but
again
I
think
the
the
the
reason
we
went
that
way
was
is
to
really
try
to
look
at
a
more
conservative
approach
from
the
suspect
of
what
the
effects
of
car
traffic
would
be
on
the
adjacent
area
right.
So,
as
we
get
closer
to
to
developing
Oh,
see,
Transpo
is
able
to
then
understand.
What's
going
to
be
happening,
then
the
goal
would
be
to
adjust
routes
and,
of
course,
encourage
as
much
transit
as
possible.
E
But
considering
the
you
know,
a
portion,
a
significant
portion
of
this
development
will
be
seniors
living
to
a
point
where
they
may
not
be
taking.
You
know
they
may
actually
be
using
a
pair
of
Transpo
more
than
some
regular
OC
Transpo
routes.
So
it's
it's
a
tough
thing
to
isolate
it
as
a
community
as
a
whole,
but
but
I
think,
overall,
the
opportunities
are
there
to
be
able
to
provide
the
appropriate
transit
service
for
different
parts
of
this
community.
Okay,
yep
look.
Thank
you
sure.
I
can.
E
You
very
much,
madam
chair
and
just
a
couple
questions
in
terms
of
the
housing
on
the
north
side.
So
if
you
can
pull
that
diagram
back
up
there,
thank
you
in
terms
of
the
right-of-way
coming
into
the
building
for
coming
into
the
property
from
the
Riverside
area.
How
white
is
that
right
away
coming
in
and
the
reason
I'm
asking
the
question:
isn't
just
trying
to
figure
out
there's
a
way
to
maneuver
that
it's
smaller
in
order
to
give
a
proper
or
more
of
a
setback.
We've
got
a
possibility.
E
E
D
But
what's
the
depth
of
the
the
some
of
the
words
I
looked
at
him
last
night,
some
of
the
rear
yards
are
in
the
7
to
14
meter
depths
the
overall
Lots.
Well,
if
this
is
40,
some
of
these
are
kind
of
pushing
30
meter
depths
or
30
higher
than
30
meter
depths
that
that
your
that
your
question
or
hip,
the.
E
E
There
will
be
walk
outs,
the
site,
slopes
down
roughly
three
feet:
three
and
a
half
feet
from
the
front
of
the
townhouses,
the
rear
of
the
townhouses,
and
so
the
ground-floor
will
have
a
patio
or
something
like
stepping
down.
So
yeah.
They
will
be
walk
outs
but
not
from
the
lower
level
would
just
be
from
the
main
level.
Okay.
But
the
question
that
going
back
to
the
height
of
those
homes,
announcer
the
great
going
up
or
going
down
how.
E
A
Thank
you,
okay,
so
I
think
that's
it
for
questions.
Now
you
have
questions
for
staff.
Okay,
who
has
questions
for
staff
all
right,
just
counselor
brockington,
so
counselor
Ron's
going
to
ask
questions
from
staff.
We
you
heard
two
motions
that
he
had
at
the
beginning.
There's
also
a
technical
motion
that
now
I
count.
Sir
Sher
Ali
will
move
there's
only
and
then
there's
another
one.
No,
you
don't
need
to
because
it's
go
ahead.
C
C
And
we
have
no
more
delegations,
no
more
delegations,
yeah,
just
a
few
questions
for
staff
and
then
I'll
make
some
final
comments.
So
I
see
mr.
Marcos
here
and
I
just
wanted
to
start
off.
There's,
certainly
lots
of
questions
and
comments
that
have
been
in
the
public
domain
in
here
today
about
the
original
concept
plan
and
how
the
concept
plan
gets
incorporated
as
part
of
this
journey
and
I
just
wanted
to
ask
mr.
mark
if
he
could
publicly
comment
on
the
records.
What
does
a
concept
plan
guarantee.
E
Madam
chair,
the
city
does
not
use
concept
plans.
Often
when
one
goes
to
the
official
plan,
it
actually
speaks
more
in
line
of
community
design
plans
and
there's
a
process
through
the
plan
for
developing
community
design
plans.
A
concept
plan
is,
as
its
name
suggests,
a
a
thought
as
to
how
an
area
is
to
be
developed,
but.
E
Binding
on
developer
is
certainly
not
binding
on
committee
or
council,
it
is
a.
It
is
a
program
by
which
one
bring
forged
development
applications,
but
the
binding
instrument
that
come
out
of
the
concept
plan
are
the
Official
Plan
amendments
and
zoning
bylaws,
and
indeed
the
site
plans
and
the
subdivisions
that
are
subsequently
considered
by
committee.
Council
and.
C
Staff
based
upon
where
the
approval
authority
lies.
Thank
you
for
that.
As
we
all
know,
we
all
acknowledge.
This
has
been
a
lengthy
process.
The
community
was
engaged
at
the
beginning,
haven't
engaged
through
the
process
and
certainly
engaged
with
the
concept
plan,
and
the
use
of
that
concept
plan
raises
expectations,
because
some
people
believe
that
the
final
outcome
would
it
would
adhere
to
as
best
as
possible
to
that
original
concept
plan
and
because
the
city
transferred
the
authority
in
2014
to
the
OSI
DLC
to
basically
market
and
sell
this
land.
C
There
were
some
constraints
or
restrictions
on
what
could
be
done
once
that
happened
once
you
have
a
confidential
real
estate
negotiation?
There
are
some
limitations
as
to
the
public.
Outreach
can
go
at
certain
times,
and
certainly
we
heard
from
the
community
in
November
of
2016
when
this
matter
came
back
to
give
an
update
to
the
committee
and
council
about
that
process.
I
have
concerns
with
the
overall
governance
of
the
OSI
DLC
I
have
concerns
with
the
local
councillor
not
being
able
to
address
the
board
when
the
board
deals
with
those
matters.
Mr.
C
mark
and
I
have
talked
about
this,
and
his
direction
to
me
is
to
raise
a
number
of
inquiries
when
this
matter
comes
to
City
Council
at
the
end
of
March,
and
so
madam
chair
I'm,
just
saying
I'm
not
having
a
big
discussion
today
about
OSI
DLC
governance
other
than
to
give
notice
that
when
this
does
come
to
City
Council
I'll
be
filing
those
inquiries
at
that
time.
Because
that's
the
right
venue
for
those
questions.
C
We
do
have
a
two-story
strip
mall
in
the
community.
It's
called
the
Ridgewood
mall,
that's
about
half
a
kilometer,
maybe
a
bit
further
away
to
the
north
of
this
proposal,
and
it's
been
part
of
our
community
since
day
one,
and
we
have
a
very
engaged
co-owner
of
that
mall
who's
spoken
at
fedko
before
and
as
a
real
community
player.
If
you're
on
Riverside,
you
don't
know
this
mall
exists,
it's
not
Muniz
Bay
place,
it's
the
next
one.
C
It's
called
Ridgewood
Avenue
and
that
mall
goes
through
its
own
cycle
of
tenants
certainly
has
got
some
anchors
and
it
has
its
share
of
tenants
that
have
gone
in
and
out,
and
one
of
the
issues
is
visibility,
and
so
one
question
and
concerns,
certainly
with
the
visibility
of
the
strip
mall.
The
the
mixed-use
buildings
that
are
being
proposed
is
how
the
Ridgewood
mall
can
let
people
know.
I've
certainly
spoken
to
mr.
C
E
Madam
chair,
we
can
definitely
take
a
look
at
it.
It
falls
into
another
area
of
jurisdiction
would
be
with
our
right-of-way
group,
but
we
do
have
situations
where,
in
fact,
we
have
introduced
these
directional
signs
for
different
facilities
once
I
come
to
mind
our
lands
down
and
the
triple
a
baseball
park.
So
it's
not
unheard
of,
so
we
can
definitely
take
a
look
and
see
whether
or
not
there
is
that
opportunity
and
and
get
back
to
you
directly
on.
C
E
C
Great,
that's
good
yep.
Thank
you
thank
you
to
to
mr.
Moore.
If
I
can
and
mr.
haywire
again
and
mr.
Tremblay
answered
questions
just
about
guarantees
to
the
community.
Sorry
and-
and
you
know
the
concerns
about
well,
we
have
got
a
vision
here.
What
happens
if
something
goes
wrong?
What
happens
if
the
plan
changes?
What
happens
if
there's
a
new
owner
I
know
there
are
some
conditions
in
the
ultimate
contract,
but
the
the
general
zoning
along
Riverside
permitted,
multiple
uses
that
community
doesn't
want
to
envision.
D
The
mixed
use
zone,
so
the
GM
zone,
has
restrictions
of
animal
hospital
apartment,
dwelling,
big
toys,
diplomatic
mission,
Funeral,
Home,
shelter,
stacked,
townhouses
technology
industry.
Those
are
the
uses
that
we
hold
out
and
restricted
from
the
GM
zone
to
leave
in
the
uses
that
are
more
conducive
to
community
commercial
further
other
through
the
zoning
we've
put
in
the
height
schedule,
proposing
so
along
the
northern
property
line,
the
townhouses
will
have
a
maximum
height
of
8
meters.
C
C
There
are
things
I
like,
and
there
are
things
that
I'm
concerned
with
in
the
North
that
former
traffic
Atlit
egress
is
now
dedicated
exclusively
to
pedestrians
and
cyclists.
There
was
some
talk
at
the
very
beginning
that
that
would
be
for
traffic,
and
the
community
was
quite
concerned
with
that,
and
that
has
been
mitigated
the
existing
fence.
You
know
all
schools
have
fences,
it's
a
chain-link
fence
you
can
see
through.
It
will
be
removed
and
a
six-foot
wooden
fence
will
be
erected
and
on
the
canoe
bay
side,
trees
and
shrubs.
C
So
there
will
be
at
least
at
ground
level
some
privacy
tasteful
privacy
that
will
be
implemented
by
the
canoe
bay
owner.
There's
even
going
to
be
a
noise
wall
on
the
north
west
corner
for
that
first
resident,
who
has
been
given
a
number
of
options
by
canoe.
Bane,
is
working
with
canoe
Bay
on
something
that
works
for
the
resident
about
a
noise
wall.
C
In
that
corner
very
concerned
with
spring
land
drive
access,
there
was
a
little
sliver
of
land
that
the
city
purchased
between
Holy
Cross
School,
which
is
to
the
north
of
phase
2
and
Holy
Cross
Church,
which
is
immediately
south
of
that
phase
2,
and
that
was
primarily
purchased
to
be
a
roadway.
There
was
significant
concern
in
the
community
right
now.
Spring
land
drive
has
a
cut-through
traffic
problem.
The
airport
Parkway
exit
at
Brookfield,
which
is
to
the
north,
has
a
lot
of
particularly
p.m.
C
peak
period
cut
through
traffic
and
people
don't
want
residential
cut
through
traffic.
We
know
that
Riverside
Drive
is
the
ideal
street
to
do
that.
The
median
cut
will
be
paid
for
by
canoe
Bay.
Those
lights
will
be
paid
for
by
canoe
Bay
and
that
will
provide
I
believe
safer
access
net
safer
access
for
the
community
Riverside
Park
north.
By
having
the
main
entrance
in
egress
points
from
Riverside,
the
original
was
step
3
and
the
community
said
look.
Riverside
is
a
busy
street.
C
We
need
to
be
able
to
move
traffic
safely
at
a
reasonable
speed
and
again
there
was
pushback
for
myself
with
canoe
Bay,
not
to
have
three
entry
and
exit
points.
At
least
two.
There
is
the
outcome.
The
park
to
the
south
has
had
preliminary
consultations
already.
There
will
be
much
broader,
in-depth
public
consultations,
probably
in
the
spring
canoe
bays,
contributing
up
to
$800,000
for
the
design
and
the
components
of
this
park.
The
city
is
not
paying
for
that.
C
This
is
that
this
will
become
a
city
park
and
the
community
is
going
to
decide
what
goes
in
that
Park.
So
that
is
another
benefit
to
the
community.
I
do
think
that
there
is
great
value
in
looking
at
the
reduction
in
height
from
that
commercial.
It
was
originally
proposed
by
canoe
Bay
to
have
one
floor,
commercial,
retail
and
then
one
floor
on
top
of
residential,
and
that
was
changed
much
later
in
the
process
to
three
floors.
C
The
overall
net
benefit
may
not
be
significant
when
you're
looking
at
a
six
hundred
and
twenty
three
twenty
four
unit
development,
but
this
committee
can
send
the
right
direction
of
the
right
message
to
the
community.
By
approving
my
motion,
it
is
not
a
perfect
development.
There
are
no
perfect
developments
and
there
weren't
other
developments.
As
we
learned
once
the
OSI
DLC
released
publicly
released
the
other
bids
which
they
kept
confidential
for
quite
some
time,
but
really
my
focus
has
been
trying
to
make
this
work,
as
best
I
can
I
do
believe.
C
There's
some
very,
very
fair
questions
about
density,
and
why
doesn't
the
city
not
just
have
height
caps
for
its
different
classifications
of
death
density,
but
also
unit
number
ranges,
I.
Think
that's
a
very
fair
question
and
we've
heard
that
Canada,
housing
and
mortgage
has
that
and
I
know
that
staff
are
looking
into
that
as
well.
C
I
must
also
say
that
there
are
members
of
the
community
who
support
this
proposal.
There
are
members
of
the
community
who
have
become
a
widow
or
widower
who
are
living
in
their
home
that
lived
in
their
home
for
decades
in
a
ready
to
downsize,
and
there
are
limited
opportunities,
particularly
in
Riverside
Park,
where
they
can
go.
There
are
a
number
of
people
who
want
to
stay
in
the
community
and
think
that
this
could
be
an
option
for
them
and
there
are
a
number
of
people
in
the
community.
C
C
So
again,
madam
chair
I'm
I'm
asking
the
committee
to
support
my
motion
that
looks
at
reducing
the
height
of
that
commercial
residential
strip.
I
do
believe
that
is
something
that
should
be
supported.
I've
met
with
every
member
of
this
committee,
one
on
one
to
talk
about
this
project
and
why
I'm
putting
forward
this
motion
in
particular
and
I,
appreciate
the
debate
and
discussion
we've
had
at
this
time.
Thank
you.
A
E
A
Okay,
okay,
thank
you!
So
now
we
have
the
first.
The
first
motion
that
we
will
deal
with
is
the
one
to
reduce
the
height
of
the
mixed-use
building
from
3
to
2,
which
was
no.
We
did
want
to
do
in
the
order.
I'm
telling
I'm
just
read:
that's
the
new
one,
so
the
new
one,
the
first
one
is
as
councillor
block
and
his
motion
to
reduce
the
height
of
the
mixed-use
building
from
3
to
2
pardon
again,
yep
I'm,
a
heavier
okay,
so
on
3,
2
2.
A
E
A
A
A
E
E
A
E
E
A
A
Sure,
but
since
I've
separated
the
one
point
the
councillor
bracketed
didn't
want
to
support
out
of
it,
don't
we
also
have
to
move
that
motion,
or
is
it
just
implied
that
it
will
be
its
handle?
Yes,
we
have
to
that.
We
will
in
the
actual
motion
at
the
end
as
amend
that
will
include
everything,
including
the
commercial,
okay,
I'm
answering
my
own
question
so
on
the
technical
motion
moved
by
Councillor
le
as
amended.
A
A
D
A
All
right,
okay,
so
colleagues,
we
have
a
lot
left
on
the
agenda
and
normally
we
take
a
break
at
12:25,
I'm
I
hate
to
disappoint
people
in
the
audience,
but
what
we
have
left
just
give
you
an
idea:
okay,
so
they'll
be
in
your
hands.
The
next
item
up
is
1946
Scott
Street.
We
have
one
two
three,
four
five
delegations,
okay,
next
up
after
that
is.
A
A
A
A
Well,
I
could
start
it
and
have
Gary
speak
of
the
people
that
are
here
who
has
to
leave
because
we're
not
finishing
this
whole
item.
Okay,
we
will
be
taking
a
break
on
1946
Scott
Street.
We
have
Vivian
Russell
Gary
Ludington
treyton,
Jensen,
Gordon,
Garner,
Gord,
garner
and
Brian
Casa
Grande
from
proton,
which
I'm
sure
you're
going
to
hang
around
Brian,
so
the
so
Vivian
can
you
stay
until
1:00
until
12:45?