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Planning Committee - Thursday, 9 June 2022
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A
C
D
A
Thank
you.
This
is
a
public
meeting
to
consider
the
proposed
comprehensive
official
plan
and
zoning
bylaw
amendments
listed
as
items
three
and
five
to
eight
on
today's
agenda.
For
the
items
just
mentioned,
only
those
who
make
oral
submissions
today
or
written
submissions
before
the
amendments
are
adopted
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
ontario
land
tribunal.
In
addition,
the
applicant
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
ontario
land
tribunal.
A
A
Thank
you
under
communications,
we
have
a
response
to
an
inquiry
about
the
salvation
army,
site
plan
application
and
we'll
go
through
the
agenda
then
and
hold
any
items
where
we
have
delegations
or
speakers
or
any
requests
from
the
committee
to
hold.
The
first
item
is
the
2022,
affordable
housing
capital
strategy
and
update
we're
going
to
hold
that
one.
We
have
a
staff
presentation
and
potentially
some
directions
and
motions
as
well.
A
A
A
G
H
A
A
A
A
I
Just
a
simple
comment
sheriff
appropriate.
Yes,
this
is
a
really
exciting
project.
It's
fun
to
see
architecture
from
out
of
town
as
well
to
compete
with
local
architecture,
architecture
teams.
I
I
do
think
that
this
site,
although
complicated,
has
been
mastered.
With
the
proposal
we've
had,
we've
had
very
good
feedback
from
heritage
ottawa,
the
lower
town
community
association,
the
bia
with
active
frontages
on
both
york
and
george
street.
I
I
will
note
for
public
record
for
the
applicant,
I'm
looking
through
the
site
plan
to
get
a
proper
pedestrian
crossing
from
waller
mall
to
to
kind
of
their
their
the
courtyard
they're,
creating
so
something
that
we
could
certainly
work
on
at
the
site
plan
and
I'm
obviously
very
happy
with
what
is
now
a
surface
parking
and
what
is
marcus,
organic
building,
which
will
be
preserved
and
built
into
a
really
interesting
property.
Thank
you.
A
H
A
A
J
A
A
K
Good
morning,
good
morning,
chair,
thank
you,
and
this
morning
we
will
be
presenting
the
2022,
affordable,
housing
capital
strategy
and
update
with
us.
Today
we
do
have
lauren
reeves,
who
will
actually
be
giving
the
presentation,
and
I
believe
lauren
is
also
on
the
line.
I
just
want
to
confirm
that
she's,
ready,
okay
as
well
so
lauren
is
the
manager
of
affordable
housing
and
so
I'll.
Let
lauren
kick
it
off.
Thank
you.
L
L
Reduced
financing
rates
to
developers
for
in
exchange
for
affordable
units,
a
certain
percentage
of
affordable
units
would
be
provided,
but
one
of
the
requirements
of
that
financing
program
is
to
receive
municipal
support,
and
so
this
tool
would
be
something
that
we
could
provide
to
developers
to
obtain
that
municipal
support.
Our
implementation
mechanism
would
be
a
municipal
capital
facility
agreement
in
order
to
allocate
funds
to
the
private
sector.
L
Recommend
recommendation
2
pertains
to
the
ontario
renovates
program.
This
is
funded
through
the
provincial
ov
funding
and
this
year's
1.2
million
the
the
program
provides
forgivable
loans
for
major
capital,
repairs
and
accessibility
modifications
and
was
initially
only
available
to
low
and
moderate
income,
seniors
and
persons
with
disabilities.
L
Last
year
we
expanded
the
eligibility
requirements
to
permit
or
to
allocate
600
000
of
those
funds
for
community
housing
for
capital,
repairs
and
accessibility
modifications,
and
it
had
great
success
so
we'd
like
to
further
expand
the
program
this
year
and
allocate
up
to
300
000
to
not-for-profit
and
charitable
sector
landlords
for
the
same
thing
for
capital,
repairs
and
accessibility.
Modifications
next
slide,
please.
L
These
funds
will
allow
selected
housing
providers
to
act
quickly
as
properties
become
available
on
the
market
recommendation.
Four
is
in
the
event
that
additional
funding
becomes
available
and
we've
heard
rumors
that
federal
the
federal
rapid
housing
initiative
will
allocate
a
round
three
of
funding
this
year.
L
L
L
Och's
development
at
rochester
heights
phase
two
is
in
the
planning
approval
stage
and
has
gone
through
a
recent
redesign
to
add
50
units
for
a
total
of
270
units
with
the
2022
recommended
funding
of
10
million.
In
addition
to
2
million
that
was
allocated
in
2020,
this
development
is
expected
to
start
construction
by
the
end
of
this
year.
L
However,
like
our
other
housing
partners,
och
is
also
impacted
by
project
cost,
escalations
caused
by
increased
cost
of
materials,
labor
supply
shortages
and
rising
interest
rates,
increasing
their
borrowing
costs.
As
a
result,
it
is
expected
that
this
project
will
require
additional
funding
in
2023
in
order
to
be
fully
funded
next
slide.
Please.
L
L
So
in
light
of
the
financial
challenges
to
several
affordable
housing
projects
over
the
coming
months,
staff
will
continue
to
monitor
projects
underway
and
work
with
our
partners
to
manage
risk.
There
remain
a
lot
of
unknowns,
economic
uncertainties,
possibilities
regarding
future
funding
from
other
levels
of
government
review
by
cmhc
of
its
national
housing
strategy.
Financing
programs
as
well,
but
also
the
housing
services
long-range
financial
plan,
is
intended
to
be
updated
each
term
of
council
and
in
order
to
reflect
in
order
to
reflect
new
information
such
as
changing
policy
priorities,
price
changes
and
new
legislation.
L
shelter,
capacity
for
single
men,
women,
seniors
and
youth
is
currently
856
beds
and,
as
we
continue
our
investments
in
supportive
housing,
the
number
of
these
housing
units
will
soon
exceed
the
number
of
beds
in
the
shelter
system.
In
2022
alone,
we
expect
106
new
supportive
housing
units
to
be
completed
next
slide.
Please.
L
L
There
will
be
46
supportive
housing
units
developed
there
at
216
murray
street,
with
shepherds
of
good
hope,
they're
building,
48,
supportive
housing
units
and
once
those
are
complete,
they
will
also
reduce
the
number
of
shelter
beds
at
their
king,
edward
shelter
by
the
same
number
by
48,
and
then
there's
the
49
lisker
street
by
john
howard
society
and
they're
building
29
units
supportive
housing
units
for
women
next
slide.
Please.
L
I
I
A
E
Thank
you
very
much
chair
gower
and
I
I
don't
have
a
question.
It's
it's
it's
more
common.
I
I
just
really
want
to
thank
staff
for
working
so
closely
with
nepean
housing
on
the
dunbar
project,
which
is
we
heard
this
morning,
is
shovel
ready
and
construction
you
know,
could
start
as
early
as
the
fall.
E
So
I
want
to
thank
syed
and
his
team
they've
been
absolutely
wonderful
in
supporting
nepean
housing
on
this
project,
and
I
don't
know
if
nepean
housing
is
on
the
line
or
listening
in,
but
but
I
want
to
thank
them,
it
was.
It
was
a
great
idea.
You
had
a
vision,
we
went
to
the
city
and
that
vision
is
now
a
reality
and
the
shovels
are
going
in
the
ground.
So
congratulations
to
you
as
well.
This
is
going
to
be
a
significant
improvement
and
enhancement
to
the
availability
of
affordable
housing
in
ward
9..
I
Thank
you
chair,
so
so
for
committee's
awareness.
I
am
planning
to
bring
a
motion
which
I'm
working
on
with
syed
charmaine
peter
radke,
relating
to
lrt
lance
so
relating
to
this
report,
but
it's
not
ready
right
now,
so
it'll
be
brought
to
council.
So
I
just
just
for
committee's
awareness
it
it's
for
it's
for
us
to
to
go
out
and
do
external
review
of
the
development
potential
of
all
of
our
phase.
I
A
I
So
so
for
me
you
know
I
there's
back
and
forth
between
staff
and
och.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
all
of
the
financial
elements
are
aligned
so
chair,
I
I
might
come
back
and
and
with
a
motion
for
council,
but
so
far
I
do
think
there
needs
to
be
further
conversation
between
the
two
groups,
just
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
aligned
with
the
construction
timing
objectives.
I
I
I
I
want
us
to
maximize
our
our
our
plug-in
with
the
private
sector,
particularly
on
the
rental
front,
and
I
do
believe
that
staff
are
moving
forward
with
a
head
lease
environment
which
would
will
help
us
there,
but
in
the
meantime,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
those
those
funds,
those
city
funds,
do
go
to
individuals
that
are
on
the
centralized
waiting
list.
So
the
direction
reads
as
follow
that
staff
be
directed
to
ensure
that
new,
affordable
units
acquired
through
public
private
partnership
be
assigned
to
residents
currently
in
the
city's
centralized
waiting
list.
A
L
I
I
I
have
one
more
and
and
and
chair,
please
let
me
know
we
we
can
submit
this
lauren
and
I
follow
up
with
the
clerk's
office
to
finalize
the
wording.
I
I
don't
see
that
as
a
a
hold
up
the
the
second
one
is
on
recommendation
four
and
say
I'll
I'll.
Let
you
preface
that,
but
really
it's
it's
adding
at
the
end
of
that
recommendation
after
the
word,
2020
2030
the
following
words
as
they
as
they
relate
to
permanent
housing
priorities.
I
K
A
M
The
presentation
spoke,
I
think,
at
some
length
about
the
need
to
provide
some
cushion
against
escalating
construction
costs,
and
my
impression
from
listening
was
that
the
language
was
very
moderate,
but
I
am
alarmed
how
dire
is
the
situation?
Are
there
projects
that
are
not
that
are
at
risk
of
not
moving
ahead?
How
much
more
money
do
we
need
to
inject
in
order
to
ensure
that
we
are
building
the
number
of
units
per
year
that
we
need
to
to
achieve,
or
even
you
know,
hopefully
exceed
our
housing
plan?
M
K
Through
you,
chair,
counselor,
first
of
all,
to
I
think
to
to
to
foresee
the
construction
of
a
lot
of
the
units
that
we've
been
working
with
och
in
particular,
and
other
housing
providers
through
the
pipeline.
We
were
well
over
a
thousand
units
right
now
in
order
to
realize
those
we
would
likely
need
considerably
more
funding.
We're
talking,
you
know
close
to-
maybe
you
know
anywhere
from
60
to
100
million
dollars,
for
example.
K
What
we're
trying
to
do,
though,
is
with
everything
that's
underway.
That's
in
the
ground.
That's
actively
moving
ahead,
especially
projects
through
the
rapid
housing
initiative.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
those
are
fully
funded
and,
despite
the
cost
increases,
we
must
say
that
the
the
rapid
housing
rapid
housing
initiative
funding
from
the
federal
government
has
been
very
generous
on
a
on
a
funding
per
unit
basis,
and
it's
allowed
us
to
proceed,
albeit
with
us,
using
our
capital
for
the
additional
contingency
to
see
these
projects
come
through.
K
So
you
know
on
a
on
a
cost
per
unit
basis.
Yes,
the
cost
is
going
to
be
very
high
higher
than
what
we've
seen
in
the
past,
however,
we're
comfortable,
we
can
manage,
I
think,
with
larger
projects
with
och
right
now.
What
we're
looking
at
is
to
stabilize
rochester
heights,
that's
the
200,
and
so
I
forget
the
number
of
units
off
hand.
E
K
We
know
gladstone,
village
won't
be
ready
for
construction
until
next
year.
We
will
continue
to
work
with
cmhc
and
the
province
to
seek
additional
funding,
but
it's
hard
for
us
to
know
at
this
time
and
and
the
reason
why
it
is
hard
for
us
to
know
what
additional
funds
from
the
city
would
be
needed
is
because
we
don't
have
a
full
picture
from
the
federal
government.
K
Yet
we
know
that
the
cmhc
has
announced
the
housing
accelerator
fund
and
that's
the
the
fund
to
build
a
hundred
thousand
units
across
the
across
the
country.
So
we
expect
an
announcement
to
be
made
either
this
summer
or
later
in
the
fall,
and
we
hope
that
some
of
that
funding
could
be
allocated
towards
och
or
some
other
projects.
In
addition,
we
have
a
phase
three
of
the
rapid
housing
initiative.
That's
going
to
be
announced
and
we
don't
have
the
details
for
that
yet
either.
K
So
again,
that's
funding
that
could
be
allocated
to
projects
that
are
underway.
So
in
a
in
a
way
when
we
developed
the
pipeline,
we
had
said
our
worst
case
scenario
was
to
have
projects
that
would
be
construction
ready,
but
not
funded
and
unfortunately
we're
there
sooner
than
we
want
it
to
be
because
of
the
pandemic,
if
it
wasn't
for
the
rising
costs
and
interest
rates.
M
Yeah,
so
as
we
as
we
stabilize
the
projects
that
really
really
want
to
move
ahead,
that's
great,
but
I
think
what
you're
saying
is
that
you
know
every
time
we
do
that.
That
makes
it
more
difficult
to
achieve
a
new
project,
because
the
capital
dollars
are
being
reallocated
to
stabilizing
something
that's
already
underway.
What
is
sorry,
please
go
ahead.
K
Oh,
I
was
going
to
say
we're
doing
we're
doing
a
lot
of
this
with
with
our
own
capital
right
now
from
the
province.
We
have
received
funds
through
ssrf
in
this
report,
we're
only
receiving
you
know
less
than
five
million
dollars
right
now
under
the
interior
priority
housing
initiative.
So
that's
a
relatively
small
amount
than
what
we
would
have
received
in
the
past
from
the
from
the
province
and-
and
I
do
have
to
stress-
cmhc-
is
looking
closely
at
all
of
their
programs
under
the
national
housing
strategy.
K
M
K
M
Okay,
good,
so
the
second
question
I
have
is
around
the
rate
at
which
we're
building
some
of
these
new,
I
think
particularly
supportive
units.
I
think
lauren
talked
about
how
over
the
next
couple
of
years
would
be
like
a
123
new
units
coming
online
and
so
we're
going
to
have
more
beds
built
in
housing
units
than
we
have
in
the
shelter
system.
M
But
the
question
I
have
is:
are
we
keeping
up
with
the
influx
of
new
residents
in
the
shelter
system
you
know
are,
is
the
rate
at
which
we
are
building
sufficient
to
offset
the
influx
of
new
residents
such
that
we
can
actually
start
to
do
with
fewer
shelter
bits
or
are
we
keep?
Are?
We
is
demand
being
outstripped
by
the
by
the
influx
of
new
residents.
K
K
If,
if
you're
asking
me,
I
I
do
think
that
we,
you
know,
we
obviously
have
a
shortage
of
shelter
beds
right
now,
we're
using
the
physical
distancing
centers
to
continue
to
to
temporarily
accommodate
individuals.
We
do
have
challenges,
housing,
people
just
getting
getting
individuals,
housing
ready
having
them
access.
The
proper
case
supports
mental
health
addiction
supports
as
well.
K
So
these
are
all
things
that
we
are
working
on:
we're
increasing
resources
in
all
of
these
areas
to
provide
those
supports,
but
I
I
don't
foresee
a
near
future
where
we
can
reduce
shelter
beds,
that's
going
to
be
challenging,
but
can
we
maybe
move
towards
transitional
and
more?
You
know
transitional
options
within
a
supportive
housing
framework,
possibly,
but
you
know
we're
we
are
looking
more
closely
at
this.
We
have
staff
examining
the
data
and
we're
hoping
to
come
back
to
more
fully
answer.
This
question
in
the
next
term
of
council.
M
And
that
is,
you
know,
we're
gearing
up
toward
the
next
budget
in
I
guess
january,
and
you
know
my
hope
is
that
we'll
get
some
really
granular
visibility
into
what's
happening.
We
can
make
some
decisions
about
how
we
want
to
invest
in
housing
to
try
to
keep
up
both
with
the
what
seems
to
be
increasing
demand
in
the
shelter
system
and
keeping
up
with
that
inflation
in
the
in
the
construction
sector.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thanks
sure.
A
Thanks
counselor
sade,
can
you
just
clarify
something?
I
think
it
was
counselor
leeper's
first
question:
you
would
reference
that
we
may
need
60
to
100
million
dollars
more
in
funding.
Is
that
just
the
city
portion
of
these
projects,
or
is
that
60
to
100
million
that
could
come
from
provincial
or
federal
levels
as
well.
K
Chair,
it
can
come
from
provincial
federal
numbers,
and
that
was
a
very
broad
sort
of
stroke
answer
as
as
well,
because
we
we
have,
we
have
a
lot
of
projects
in
the
pipeline,
but
with
the
cost
that
we're
seeing
there
is
additional
funding,
that's
needed
next
term
of
council.
We
do
have
60
million
that's
allocated
for
that
term
of
council,
as
well
already
for
for
the
four
years.
So
we
would
be
looking
at
that.
N
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much.
Just
picking
up
on
that
point,
I
guess
the
question
would
be
given
the
rapid
housing
initiative
and
some
of
the
more
federal
intervention
on
this
is
matching.
Funding
usually
requires
a
third
or
third,
a
third
or
sometimes
there's
50
50
arrangements,
depending
on
the
federal
program,
would
more
investment
at
the
local
level
leverage
more
funding
at
other
orders
of
government
to
meet
the
the
needs
that
we've
talked
about
in
terms
of
that
that
larger
60
to
100
million
dollar
figure.
K
Through
you
chair,
we
are
working
actively
with
with
cmhc
and
I
think,
with
some
projects
we
we
could
get.
You
know
they
could
be
very
receptive
to
that.
I
think,
however,
I
mean
overall,
the
answer
to
that
question
lies
more
with
the
council
and
in
the
mayor's
office
with
respect
to
senior
levels
of
government
and
decisions
that
they
make.
But
I
do
you
know,
but
but
it
is
our
opinion
that
the
city
has
put
its
third.
N
As
you
know,
we've
been
calling
a
lot
for
the
conversion
of
hotels,
the
conversion
of
older
apartment
buildings,
whatever
it
might
be
to
to
push
and
get
some
of
that
funding,
and
I
know
we
did-
did
a
review
previously
of
those
buildings
and
the
affordability
for
some
of
those
at
the
time
seemed
unaffordable.
Has
that
changed?
Has
that
calculation
changed
from
what
we
were
looking
at
previously
a
couple
years
ago,
when
we
said
no
to
buying
multiple
hotels
that
could
have
been
converted
into
affordable
housing.
K
I
think
there's
there's
been
some
misconception
about
the
rapid
housing
initiative,
affordability
requirements
and
I'm
not
sure
how
it's
been
used
in
other
municipalities,
but
in
ottawa
the
we
don't
really
have
any
other
program
that
would
exceed
the
affordable
housing
requirements
of
the
rapid
housing
initiative
program
here,
so
everything
that
we've
allocated
it
to
it
all
the
units
would
be
affordable
to
anybody
on
odsp
or
ontario
works.
For
example,
we
would
see
the
lowest
rents
for
any
of
those
units
funded
under
that,
especially
the
support
of
housing
and
for
families.
K
I
think
where
some
of
the
confusion
comes
from
is
the
rental
construction?
Sorry,
the
other
rental
construction
financing
initiative
from
the
the
federal
government.
I
that's
where
there
was
a
lot
of
confusion,
because
that
program
had
an
affordable
affordability
target
set
at
10
below
market,
where
market
was
defined
between
cmhc
and
the
private
developers,
so
you
would
have
rents
at
twenty
two
hundred
twenty
three
three
hundred
dollars
a
month.
The
city
hasn't
participated
in
any
of
those
types
of
projects.
N
K
Chair
we,
we
are
looking
at
that
as
a
viable
option.
Currently
we're
not
finding
hotels
that
are
readily
available
for
sale,
or
at
least
hotels.
That
would
suit
our
needs
at
this
time,
but
we
do
continue
to
look
and
to
pursue
options
we're
working
very
closely
with
creole,
for
example,
and
the
the
emergency
shelter
or
the
community
shelter
sector
as
well
trying
to
find
strategic
acquisitions
where
we
can,
you
know
better,
accommodate
our
homeless
residents.
N
Okay,
thank
you
yeah.
Just
there
was
a
lot
of
I
mean
early
on.
I
know
it
was
kind
of
tough,
but
we
did
have
people
come
and
offer
us
and
and
provide
us
with
potentials.
Back
then-
and
I
know
the
cost
escalation
lately
has
meant
an
issue
but
two
years
ago,
that's
when
we
were
seeing
a
lot
come
forward,
so
you
know
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
jumping
on
the
opportunities
when
when
they're
there,
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
add
anything
on
that.
If.
K
I
would
I
would
like
to
yes
thank
you
counselor.
We
did
we
we
at
very
early
in
the
pandemic.
We
did
go
out
and
we
we
were
very
excited
to
acquire
some
hotels
and
and
motels,
and
a
lot
of
the
owners
were
very
eager
to
talk
to
us.
But
then
what
happened?
Was
it
didn't
take
very
long,
a
lot
of
those
hotels
that
we
wanted
to
purchase.
K
They
found
out
that
their
their
their
occupancy
rates
didn't
fall
much
below
70
percent,
so
they
were
doing
very
well,
and
perhaps
it
was
a
lost
opportunity
that
we
didn't
push
harder,
but
they
had
lost
incentive
to
sell
as
well.
So
the
the
price
was
going
up
even
at
the
very
beginning
of
the
pandemic,
because
they
weren't
seeing
any
loss.
There
were
some
hotels
that
were
in
difficulty,
but
they
were
usually
in
areas
where
we
did
not
want
to
pursue
the
the
acquisitions.
N
Everything
was
changing
quickly.
It
was
a
really
short
term.
I
think
opportunity
at
that
time
and
that's
why
we
were
really
pushing
at
that
time.
I
know
staff
did
due
diligence
on
that.
I
just
remember:
if
you
come
forward
that
we
said
no
we're
not
doing
because
we
doesn't,
our
financial
model
doesn't
need
it,
but
I
wish
we
had,
I
guess
back
then,
because
we
could
have
acquired
more
housing
units,
especially
to
give
them
the
price
inflation
we're
seeing
today.
N
K
Chair,
I
I
think
it's
it's
a
possibility,
but
the
real
intent
behind
this
recommendation
is
that
we're
getting
a
lot
of
interest
from
developers
to
support
their
applications
to
cmhc
and
often
cmhc
rates,
the
applications
based
on
city
contributions
to
those
development
projects,
and
we
don't
have
any
ability
right
now
to
provide
grants
or
any
type
of
support
to
the
private
sector.
So
our
thinking
here
was
that
we
would
we
would
use
this
to.
K
Chair
currently
with
respect
to
development
charges,
it
is
difficult
for
us
to
to
waive
them
unless
we
are
budgeting
for
those
within
our
affordable
housing
capital
budget.
Within
the
long
range
financial
plan,
we
do
have
a
budget
for
development,
charge,
grants
or
exemptions
and
that's
monitored
with
planning
and
finance
as
well,
so
we'd
have
to
we'll
have
to
work
it
into
to
all
of
that.
We
couldn't
do
it
sort
of
on
a
one-off
basis,.
N
The
two
million
would
be
in
addition
to
to
what
we
already
have
in
terms
of
development
charge,
offset,
which
I
recall
coming
as
part
of
that
50
million
dollar
annual,
affordable
housing
plan
the
time
of
the
10-year
plan,
so
this
would
be.
This
would
be
added
to
it.
I
understand
it's
just
a
pilot
project,
but
I'm
a
bit
wary
of
it.
I
think
the
concern
for
me
is,
you
know,
is
a
dollar
spent
on
subsidizing
developers
to
provide
what
has
traditionally
been
not
so
affordable
housing.
N
Is
that
better
value
for
money,
long
term
than
investing
in
the
creation
of
non-market
housing,
either
like
directly
through
och
or
in
partnership
with
with
non-market
providers?
So
I
guess
the
question:
is
you
know
why
not
spend
the
entire
budget
on
that
it?
Is
it
the
variety
we're
seeking?
What's
the
value
of
that
in
terms
of
the
the
you
know,
a
dollar
spent
on
och
versus
a
dollar
spent
on
housing
that
traditionally
has
been
not
long-term
and
not
very
affordable.
K
Yeah,
that's
a
very
good
question.
I
think
our
record
has
been
to
fund
almost
exclusively
the
not-for-profit
and
charitable
sectors
when
it
does
come
to
housing.
In
this
case,
we
are
looking
for
similar
affordability
levels,
so
we
wouldn't
be
looking
at
rcfi,
for
example,
or
any
you
know,
funding
any
type
of
program
like
that,
and
we
do
see
an
opportunity
here,
because
there
is
now
a
lot
of
competitions.
K
We
literally
have
developers
knocking
on
our
door
quite
frequently
looking
for
us
to
partner
with
them,
whereas
I
would
say
before
they
maybe
were
not
as
eager
to
to
partner
with
us,
so
we're
hoping
this
can
help
us
enter
into
stronger
agreements,
but
also
attract
more
affordable
housing
funds
from
the
federal
government
into
ottawa
to
get
more
units
overall.
So
that's
that's
really
our
intention
and
we
think
it's.
It
is
a
relatively
sort
of
modest
amount.
E
Lots
of
good
work,
obviously
challenging
with
limited
finances,
but
doing
good
work
with
what
you
have.
So
I
want
to
thank
you,
syed
and
lauren
and
the
whole
team,
not
just
at
the
city
but
och
and
other
stakeholders.
We
work
with
I'm
just
looking
at
the
motion
and
I
want
to
make
sure
I
I
understand
things
correctly.
Part
one
is
more
or
less
building
units
part
two
is
about
upgrading
existing
units.
If
I
can
say
that
simplistically.
M
O
E
We
get
a
sense-
and
I
don't
expect
an
answer
today,
but
my
residents,
who
are
in
social
housing
the
number
one
thing
we
hear
is
assisting
them
with
transfer
requests
followed
closely
by
sort
of
the
state
of
their
home
state
of
of
the
buildings
or
homes
that
they
live
in.
Can
we
get
a
sense
of
how
bad
things
are
with
the
state
of
our
existing
capital
stock?
E
K
K
We
we
do
have
it
in
our
work
plan
to
continue
to
work
with
the
entire
community
housing
sector
and
especially
och,
to
look
at
the
backlog
of
repairs
and
cap.
You
know
in
capital
maintenance
that
is
required.
Life
cycle
work,
that's
required
in
units
and-
and
it
is
in
our
work
plan
to
bring
this
to
to
council.
We
could
we
could
bring
you
more
information
on
the
status
of
repairs
prior
to
next
council.
However,
it
is
quite
separate
from
this
report.
E
Fair
enough
yeah
the
way
it's
worded.
It
says
capital,
repairs
and
accessibility
modifications.
So
I
thought
it
was
two
different
pockets
if
you
could
just
offline
direct
me
to
that
cps
report,
I'll,
read
it
and
follow
up,
but
I
do
think
as
as
important
of
knowing
accurate
and
up-to-date
data
on
who
needs
to
be
housed.
E
P
A
P
P
Better
okay,
thank
you,
sorry
about
that.
I
had
my
headsets
on,
so
thank
you
for
the
report.
Part
of
the
report
is
elwood
house,
which
is
a
great
project
which
builds
on
an
existing
facility
at
st
thomas,
the
apostle
and
it's
been
there
for
25
years,
and
this
proposal
adds
38
units
to
33
units
already
existing
specifically
for
our
older
adults
and
hopefully
with
these
pre-development
funds
and
construction
can
start
in
2023.
P
The
question
is:
how
can
we
we
need
more,
affordable
housing?
We
need
it
for
older
adults.
How
can
we
reduce
those
timelines?
What
initiatives
can
counselors
do
assist
with
more
to
be
helpful
in
in
reducing
those
timelines,
so
so
that
we
can
support
those
partners
who
want
to
bring
these
proposals
to
fruition
to
serve
our
our
residents
and
again,
in
this
case
our
aging
population?
I
guess
that's
for
syed
just
to
plow
the
road
for
the
future
applications.
K
Okay,
thank
you.
A
chair,
I
think
I
mean
council's,
been
very
supportive.
Our
budget
in
affordable
housing
has
increased
considerably
over
the
last
few
years.
We
went
from
having
nothing
in
terms
of
city
funding
some
years
for
affordable
housing
to
having
a
you
know,
a
consistent.
You
know
level
of
15
million
dollars
annually
so
that
that's
a
that's
a
big
help.
Council
has
also
supported
us
in
our
efforts
to
create
the
pre-development
fund
with
the
sector
to
get
these
projects
construction
ready.
K
I
think
you
know
once
projects
are
construction
ready.
The
idea,
at
least
from
the
staff
level,
was
that
we
could
put
more
pressure
on
provincial
and
federal
governments
to
seek
funding
and
to
provide
their
share.
So
we
can
get
the
other
two
thirds
necessary
to
build
these,
and
I,
I
think
you
know
short
of
you
know
providing
more
funding.
We
could
pressure
other
levels
of
government
also
to
to
provide
fundings
to
to
see
these
projects
start
sooner.
P
P
E
E
They're,
usually
the
big
ones
and
I've
recently
come
across
smaller
ones
that
are
looking
at
provide
want
to
provide
affordable
housing
and
it
doesn't
feel
like
we're
set
up
to
deal
with
them
that
the
big
ones
because
of
scale
we
can
negotiate.
You
know
you
get
a
building
of
450
units
you
take
10,
20
and,
and
then
you
can
talk
to
them,
but
but
in
terms
of
just
having
smaller
developments,
because
we
want
that
missing
middle
and
we
want
smaller
developments.
E
K
Okay,
chair,
I
I
think
yeah
this
is.
This
is
another
one
of
those
questions.
That's
not
so
easy
to
answer.
You
know
when
we
get
requests
from
developers,
smaller
developers,
even
even
larger
ones,
often
they're
looking
for
funding
levels
that
that
pretty
much
equal,
what
we're
providing
to
och
or
a
ccoc,
or
an
mhi,
for
example,
and
it's
hard
for
us
to
recommend
to
council
to
provide
that
level
of
funding.
K
We
are,
though,
within
our
work
plan,
looking
at
implementing
a
community
improvement
plan
for
affordable
housing,
to
provide
tax
incremental
grants,
for
example,
to
assist
some
of
those
smaller
and
larger
developments,
who
developers
who
do
want
to
provide
affordable
housing
at
affordability,
levels
that
will
be
will
also
be
established
by
council,
so
we're
hoping
that
would
help,
and
we
will
look
at
some
other
tools,
but
it
is
I'll.
I
think
I'll
just
acknowledge
that
that
this
is
a
challenging
area
really
to
to
address
the
missing
middle
part.
K
Our
funding
is
a
small
part
of
all
housing,
that's
constructed
in
the
city.
We
try
to
focus
our
funding
on
deeper
levels
of
affordability
and
even
then
we
we're
challenged
on
how
affordable
we
can.
You
know
how
affordable
the
units
can
be
in
these
projects
and
I
think
a
lot
of
counselors
would
like
to
see
the
units
even
more
affordable.
So
it
is
difficult
for
us
to
to
stretch
the
funding
any
further
than
we
have,
but
we
are.
E
I
appreciate
it.
I
I
just
trying
to
raise
the
subject,
because,
when
I
think
of
affordable
housing,
I
think
of
families
and
because
they're
the
ones
that
have
the
hardest
time,
affording
housing
and
they're
the
ones
that
are
struggling
the
most
and
the
a
lot
of
the
developers
are
looking
at
smaller
units.
They
when
they
build
a
tower.
That's
all
one
in
bedrooms
and
and
bachelor
units
and
and
och
of
course,
is
very-
is
very
flexible
and
and
has
a
wide
variety
of
housing.
E
But
I'm
trying
to
look
at
opportunities,
especially
as
we
work
towards
the
vacant
lots
and
and
converting
them.
We
will
have
developers
coming
forward.
So
I
just
want
to
know
if
we
can
be
ready
to
to
to
make
it
affordable
housing
for
the
future.
With
the
with
the
fact
that
vacant
lots
can
be
converted,
what
would
we
need
to
do
to
help
that
along.
K
I
Thank
you,
chair
and
I'll
a
number
of
questions
sada.
I
I
recognize
this
preceded
you,
but
I
believe
there
was
a
former
direction
that
when
we
bring
these
reports
that
we
have
a
on
the
tables,
a
third
string
that
says
per
cost
per
unit,
so
I
do
think
you
know
a
lot
of
counselors
are
raising
private
sector
they're
raising
what
are
the
costs
in
it?
K
Hi
mommy,
thank
you
chair.
Yes,
that's
something
we
can
take
under
advisement.
I
think.
However,
I
would
say
when
we
look
at
cost,
we
I
think
we
could
look
at
amount
funded
per
unit
for
each
project.
I
think
that's
really
what
you're
you're
getting
at
and
then
with
respect
to
cost
we'd,
obviously
have
an
estimated
cost
early
in
a
project's
conception
and
then
later
we'd
have
a
final
cost
that
we
would
have
to
look
at
how
we
can
report
on
that,
but
the
amount
funded
per
unit.
I
Okay,
thank
you
when
I
look
at
the
the
supportive
housing
areas
and-
and
I
want
to
be
supportive,
but
I
do
want
to
understand
the
financial
side
of
it.
When
I
did,
I'm
amassed
a
total,
I
believe
we're
at
676
million
dollars
for
184
units
and
and
then,
when
I
break
down
when
we
break
down
the
units,
jock
fails
on
par
saint-denis
on
par
forwards
on
par
they're
around.
I
K
Yes,
chair:
there's
one
reason
that
there's
a
big
difference
in
in
the
cost,
and
this
again
this
is
the
amount
funded
because
some
projects
are
financed.
So
the
financing
piece
does
not
show
up
in
these
tables.
So,
for
example,
jockvale
that
would
be
financed
by
och
and
part
of
the
rents
would
pay
for
that
financing
over
a
20
or
30
year
period,
for
example.
K
I
just
do
want
to
say
that
och
we're
looking
at
eight
hundred
dollars
a
month,
for
you
know
a
unit
that
can
house
households
with
children
and
echoes
it's
supportive
housing
for
women,
so
they're
small
studio
units
with
eccles,
though
there
are,
there
is
another
funding
source.
I
believe
that
that
is
in
there
and
so
that
that
that
unit
cost
will
probably
be
just
as
high
as
as
the
others,
but
typically
it's,
because
the
financing
is
not
included
in
the
funding
cost
that
we
provide.
In
these
reports
to
council.
I
Okay,
I
want
to.
I
want
to
applaud,
even
if
it's
small,
it's
small.
I
do
think
that
the
black
led
family
unit
initiative
is
a
good
start.
I
I
think
this.
This
council
and
staff
should
stay
on
top
of
the
growth
potential
and
should
really
focus
on.
How
can
we
support
we've
seen
large
black
families,
particularly
in
motels,
for
a
long
time
as
you're
aware,
and
you
know
if,
if
this
could
be
a
sustainable
and
growth
model,
I
I
would
would
encourage
it.
K
Good
chair
with
respect
to
al
wooden
and
dunbar
we've
allocated
up
to
as
7.2
million
for
dunbar.
We
will
continue
to
do
work
with
nepean
housing
to
develop
those
costs.
It's
still
fairly
early
in
the
process,
woodhouse
we're
in
the
pre-development
stage
at
this
time.
So
we
we
may
have
high
level
class
d
estimates,
for
example,
but
we
really
don't
have
any
reliable
costs
right
now.
K
I
I
always
struggle
with
this
committee
in
this
report
because
I,
my
head
is
so
cps
focused,
but
we
we
were
talking
at
the
time
of
rooming
houses
and
I
remember
we
were
reviewing
standards
and
one
of
the
programs
we
were
looking
to
tap
into
was
the
ontario
renovates
and
and
we
were
struggling
to
spend
the
amount.
So
I
see
in
this
report
that
there's
an
additional
1.2
million
for
ontario
renovates,
as
have
things
shifted,
are
we
are
we
seeing
the
benefits
of
that
program?
Are
they
being
fully
utilized.
K
Chair,
I
think
we
could.
We
could
do
better
with
interior
renovates.
We
did.
The
program
did
slow
down
considerably
throughout
the
pandemic,
with
individual
households
and
and
with
our
efforts
to
reach
out
to,
for
example,
roaming,
house
landlords
with
this
with
this
fund.
So
we
we've
learned
some
lessons
with
small
landlords
and
rooming
house
landlords.
We've
built
some
better
relationships
with
some
of
these
private
sector
landlords
who
do
house
very
vulnerable
populations,
and
we
want
to
see
how
we
can
you
know,
make
the
interior
renovate
program
work
better
for
them.
K
K
I
I
So
so,
just
on
a
more
macro
level,
so
as
part
of
the
10-year
housing
and
homelessness
plan
review,
we
gave
a
clear
kind
of
financial
objectives.
I
think
you
referred
to
one
third
one.
Third,
one
third
earlier
and
appreciate
you
saying
that
this
we
would
have
passed
the
first
year
last
year
and
we're
in
the
second
year
of
that
that
those
objectives,
if
my
mind,
if
my
memory
serves
me
well
so
last
year,
unless
I'm
wrong,
but
it
was
around
20
million
that
we
were
looking
for
senior
levels
of
government.
I
K
I
think,
with
respect
to
the
funding
from
the
provincial
government,
it
it
is
less
than
what
we
have
been
expecting.
So
we
we've
received
the
amount
is
in
the
report.
I
believe
it's
4.7.
I
just
I
can't
see
it
on
my
screen
in
the
ontario
priority
housing
initiative
funding.
So
we
we
have
not.
You
know
this
year
we
haven't
seen
additional
capital
from
the
from
the
province.
Last
year
we
did
receive
capital
through
the
social
service
relief
fund,
which
was
allocated
to
some
of
the
support
of
housing
projects.
K
So
I
would
say
the
funding
we
we
had
expected
was
realized
with
the
federal
government.
We
are
awaiting
to
find
out.
If
we're
going
to
be
further
allocated
funds
this
year,
it's
a
little
bit
tricky
with
the
with
the
cmhc,
because
they
do
allocate
funding
directly
to
projects,
sometimes
without
necessarily
working
with
the
city.
I
Okay,
but
for
the
2021
I'm
trying
to
one
of
the
things
that's
important
for
council
is
to
stay
on
top
of
its
plan
so
did
year,
one
realize
itself
in
terms
of
capital
funding
needs
outside
of
the
city,
because
I
think
we
the
amount
we
had
affirmed,
we
actually
exceeded.
With
the
last
report,
which
came,
I
guess
last
last
month.
K
Yes,
chair,
I
think
if
we
account
for
ssrf
and
the
rapid
housing
initiative
that
that
we
would
have,
we
could
say
yes,
that
we
received
what
was
expected,
although
these
were
very
you
know,
exceptional
circumstances
as
well
that
nobody
anticipated
and
the
project
costs
were
very
different
to
than
what
we
had
anticipated
in
the
long
range
financial
plan.
That's
the
only
caveat
that
would
add
to
that.
I
K
So
chair
we
were,
we,
I
think,
the
5
million
you
are
probably
referring
to
the
the
ontario
priority.
Housing
initiative
amount,
but
I
was
also
counting
the
rapid
housing
initiative
funds
and
the
social
service
relief
funds
that
were
allocated
towards
the
the
support
of
housing
that
was
funded
last
year
as
well.
So
I
would
need
staff
to
to
pull
together
those
numbers
quickly,
but
just
quick
estimates.
We
would
you
know
I
it
from
from
our
recollection.
They
we've
received
that
amount
of
funding
from
provincial
federal
governments.
I
I
K
Yes
chair:
we
we
have
the
amounts
in
the
report,
but
we
can
break
them
out
specifically
by
year,
so
that
we
can
map
out
for
council
what
we
received
each
year
and
whether
it
met
our
expectations.
I
think
one
of
the
challenges
too,
though,
is
that
we
are
funding.
We
have
more
units
underway
also
that
can
be
funded
as
well.
So
when
we
look
at
our
long-range
financial
plan,
it's
the
cost
of
units
exceeds
what
we
had
projected
when
the
plan
was
brought
forward.
I
E
The
city
portion
was
15
million
provincial
and
the
ofi
was
2.58,
an
11.3
in
social
services
relief,
so
about
13
in
the
federal
government,
through
rapid
housing
was
31.9
and
in
2021
our
investments
were
52.1
million.
15
million
from
the
city
to
3.69,
from
ofi
10.5
from
social
service
relief
and
feds
were
about
22.4.
I
I
I
want
you
to
know
that
och
and
the
city
are
working
closely
and
we
were
successful
in
getting
a
loan
program
for
capital,
repairs
which
are
securing
the
och
capital
needs
for
the
next
nine
years.
I
believe
say
you
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
that
came
to
council
late
last
or
at
the
beginning
of
this
year.
If
I
recall
so
from
an
och
perspective,
council
brockington
I'd
be
glad
to
give
you
an
update
and-
and
maybe
that's
a
bit
of
the
challenge
chairs
when
we
review
governance.
I
Getting
both
in
cps
and
planning
is
starting
to
be
really
wonky,
specifically
with
the
support
side
and
then
the
capital
side,
and
then
you
have
och
that
are
in
both.
So
I
would
strongly
encourage
council
members
to
take
a
deep
look
at
the
the
housing
governance
for
next
council,
but
councillor
brockington,
your
your
your.
If
your
question
relates
to
och,
I'm
glad
to
share
with
you
the
report
for
capital
and
capital
repairs
for
och,
which
was
done
in
partnership
with
the
city
and
and
we
received
confirmation
yearly
amounts
from
cmhc.
I
N
Thanks
jared
I'll,
be
quick
just
coming
back
to
to
that
point,
one
c,
just
in
terms
of
a
pilot
project-
I
guess,
are
we
seeing
this
studies
on
this
that
have
shown
this
is
this
is
working
in
ontario
or
other
municipalities
that
are
reallocating
capital
dollars
to
private
sector
builders
in
in
this
way?
Just
in
terms
of
the
the
backing
of
you
know,
the
the
1c
clause.
K
Chair
we,
we
do
see
it
in
other
municipalities,
so
each
city
of
course
is
different
and
in
ottawa
we're
very
lucky.
We
have
a
strong
community
housing
sector,
strong,
not-for-profit
and
charitable
sector,
maybe
maybe
even
stronger
than
most
other
cities.
So
that's
why
that's
one
reason
why
we
continue
to
invest
in
in
those
sectors.
K
We
do
see
other
municipalities
such
as
toronto,
for
example,
they
do
invest
quite
heavily
in
the
private
sector,
with
respect
to
building
their
affordable
housing
and
other
municipalities
as
well
in
the
gta
in
other
parts
of
ontario,
do
rely
on
the
private
sector
too.
So
we
do
see
this
work
successfully.
K
It
doesn't
mean
that
that
we
we
need
to
follow
suit
either
because
other
municipalities
do
look
at
us
and
they
do
you
know
they.
They
are
perhaps
envious
of
the
sectors
that
we
get
to
work
with
here
in
ottawa,
but
again
it's.
This
is
also
really
to
attract
more
federal
dollars
and
more
affordable
housing
units
in
the
cities.
So
we
don't
see
it
really
as
an
incentive
for
the
private
sector,
but
as
an
incentive
for
the
city
to
bring
in
more
cmhc
funds
into
the
city
of
ottawa.
N
Okay,
I
appreciate
how
forthright
you
are
and
presentation
side
great
to
have
you
as
part
of
the
city.
I
really
can't
thank
you
enough
for
just
what
the
work
you
do
and
your
team
and
the
the
entire
team
working
on
this
so
you've
got
to
celebrate
the
wins.
There
are
a
bunch
of
good
things
in
here
I
am.
N
The
the
project
in
you
know,
as
we
say,
expected
to
to
explore
fee
relief
in
this
case,
or
tax
increment,
equivalent
grants
to
developers
to
exchange
for
affordable
units.
So
I
just
before
allocating
very,
very
precious
capital
dollars
in
this
way.
I
want
to
see
how
the
cip
project,
unrolls
and
so
I'll
just
be
dissenting
on
that
on
that
one
I
have
here
so
I'm
happily.
A
Thanks
counselor,
I
had
a
few
comments
and
a
few
questions
for
staff,
maybe
building
on
where
counselor
fleury
started
off
on
governance.
I
do
think
the
next
german
council,
through
the
governance
review.
I
agree,
council
fleury.
We
should
be
bringing
everything
related
to
affordable
housing
within
the
same
committee.
I
think
I've
said
before
planning
and
housing
committee
might
be
a
good
name
for
a
future
for
future
councils
committee
structure.
A
Okay,
so
there's
a
number
of
numbers
that
I
think
would
be
really
helpful
for
counselors
to
be
able
to
track
year
by
year.
That's
one
of
them.
Obviously
the
report
references
the
per
unit
cost
of
400
to
500
000
per
unit.
I
think
that's
very
helpful
because
as
counselors
you
know
when
it
comes
to
budget
time
or
when
it
comes
to
giving
direction
to
staff.
A
We
really
need
to
understand
that
number.
If
there's
12
000
families
on
a
waiting
list
and
the
cost
per
unit
is
500
000
that
be
6
billion
in
investment.
Now
I
realize
it's
not
all.
All
of
those
homes
are
not
going
to
come
from
community
housing
or
public
housing
partners,
and
there
there
will
be
a
need
for
private
sector.
There
will
be
a
need
for
units
through
inclusionary
zoning,
all
sorts
of
policies,
but
that's
a
staggering
number
six
billion
dollars.
A
If
you
were
actually
you
know,
commit
money,
public
money
towards
building
all
of
those
12
000
homes
that
we
need
and
then
earlier
there
was
a
reference
to
25
to
35
increase.
I
guess
it's
in
a
year
over
what
we
would
have
seen
last
year.
So
I
think
that
per
unit
cost
overall
is
really
important
for
us
to
see
and
track
year
over
year
and
as
counselor
fleury
had
asked
for
as
well
just
to
see
what
kind
of
value
we
are
getting
from
different
projects
and
different
partners.
That's
helpful.
A
The
other
number
I
think
is
interesting.
Is
that
1
346
units
in
pre-development
planning
or
construction,
and
that's
a
number
that
kind
of
rolls
over
from
year
to
year?
So
if
that's,
where
we're
at
today
do
we
know
where
we
were
a
year
ago,
if
we're
at
13
46
today,
where
were
we
a
year
ago
with
that
number.
K
Oh
chair,
I
I
need
staff
to
to
get
that
number
for
me.
We,
you
know,
presumably
we're
adding
to
that
each
year.
I
think
the
challenge
this
year
is
we
we
might
have
added
more
to
what
we
call
the
pre-development
pipeline,
because
we
we're
we're
moving
or
keeping
gladstone
village
sort
of
on
on
that
path,
whereas
before
we
may
have
had
it
on
the
other
path.
K
So
so
you
know
it
it
there's
we're
going
to
shift
the
numbers
and
we
do
have
to
think
of
a
way
to
better
present
those
numbers
to
council.
It's
always
a
little
bit
tricky
for
us.
We
have
units
funded
units
under
construction
units
within
the
planning
phase
units
in
pre-development
and
and
so
forth,
and
and
then
even
the
units
funded.
What
we're
finding
is,
we
need
to
add
considerably
more
funding
to
those
units
now
to
to
see
them
realized
and
see
them
completed.
K
So
we
are
we're
we're
trying
to
figure
out
the
best
way
to
report
those
numbers
to
you
and,
as
donna
suggested,
we
do
have
a
progress
report.
That's
going
to
be
released
near
the
end
of
this
month
and
and
we
could
come
back
very
soon-
I
mean
within
like
the
day
or
later
today,
with
you
know,
with
a
breakdown
of
those
of
those
numbers
for
you
and
other
counselors.
A
L
A
So
we
have,
we
have
money,
we
have
partners,
we
have
obviously
a
need.
What
capacity
is
there
out
there
both
from
partner
agencies
and
also
from
the
construction
industry
is?
Is
there
a
lot
of
capacity
available
to
increase?
Could
we
could
we
increase
by
500
a
year
or
a
thousand
a
year?
Are
there
some
or
are
there
some
structural
limitations
to
where
we
could
actually
build
right?
Now?
I
don't
know
if
you
have
a
sense
of
that
saeed
or
lauren.
Oh
council,.
K
Chair
I'll
try
to
answer
that
and
lauren.
If
she
wants
to
add
anything
to
it,
please
please
do
so.
I
I
think
what
we're
seeing
especially
during
the
pandemic
is
it
does
depend
on
the
type
of
housing.
So
early
on,
the
federal
government
insisted
that
we
undertake
modular
construction
for
projects
that
increased
the
cost
and
complexity
to
a
lot
of
the
projects
that
we
were
looking
at
because
in
the
ottawa
region.
K
We
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
expertise
in
that
specific
area
and
there
are
different,
unique
building
code
requirements
for
modular
construction
that
are
even
different
from
toronto's
that
we
we
have
to
contend
with,
and
the
sector's
not
used
to
dealing
with
even
on
the
national
level,
so
that
increased
cost
and
complexity
there.
If
we're
looking
at
new
construction
infill
sites,
that's
going
to
vary
from
acquisition
and
rehabilitation
of
other
sites,
so
you
mentioned
warland.
K
K
So
the
projects
are
moving
along
a
bit
more
quickly,
but
it's
again,
I
I
don't
have
a
simple
answer
for
you
on
that.
I
I
think
depends
on
the
the
type
of
project,
the
type
of
construction,
that's
being
utilized,
the
trades
that
are
required
and
availability
of
supplies.
Where
you
know,
although
we
see
pressure
across
the
board,
some
projects
are
being
hit
harder
than
others.
K
A
Okay-
and
I
guess
a
bit
of
a
follow-up
on
the
same
topic-
och,
obviously
a
major
partner
in
the
presentation
lauren
mentioned
shepherds
of
good
hope
and
cornerstone
over
the
past
few
years.
Are
there
any
general
trends?
Are
we
seeing
an
expansion
of
the
number
of
housing
providers
that
we're
working
with,
or
is
there
a
greater
variety,
any
any
trends
or
significant
information
in
that
regard?.
K
Okay
chair,
I
I
think
the
two
big
trends
that
we
see-
one
och-
has
definitely
ramped
up
capacity,
so
you
know.
Even
so,
you
know
we
were
looking
at
300
units
a
year.
They
will
have
capacity
for
that
or
or
more
most
likely
and
their
only
limitation
will
likely
be
funding,
and,
I
would
say,
capacity
in
the
development
sector
right
just
to
support
them
in
a
competitive
manner
with
respect
to
supportive
housing.
K
I
think
the
other
big
trend
is
that
we
are
seeing
the
transition
from
shelters
to
supportive
housing,
especially
with
shepherds
of
good
hope,
cornerstone
housing
for
women.
The
ottawa
mission,
we've
they've,
all
been
very
successful
and
they've
been
very
good
partners
for
us
to
work
with
both
because
they
provide
exceptional
supports.
I've
also
got
a
there's
other
providers-
john
howard
society,
maltfall
renaissance.
K
They
provide
exceptional
support,
they're
able
to
leverage
charitable
donations,
which
helps
us
manage
the
risk,
the
financial
risk
to
see
these
projects
again
realized
and
constructed.
So
all
of
these
you
know
areas
where
we
are
seeing
significant
growth,
and
you
know
within
the
sector
we're
having
stronger
partnerships
with
our
community
agencies.
I
think
that's.
That's
what's
really
important.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
folks
who
are
interested
in
this
topic
a
reminder.
Next
thursday,
we
have
a
joint
cpsc
planning
committee
meeting
and
the
main
item
is
inclusionary
zoning,
so
another
big,
very
important
policy
piece
when
it
comes
to
affordable
housing,
and
I'm
glad
we've
taken
the
time
on
this
today,
because
investments
in
housing,
it's
the
most
important
and
most
impactful
thing
we
are
doing
as
a
council
right
now.
So
thanks
to
colleagues
for
the
discussion,
councillor
fleury,
you
have
a
direction
and
emotion.
I
A
Q
I
K
M
I
A
I
An
homelessness
plan
has
a
wide
spectrum
of
priorities
and
we
want
staff
to
focus
on
on
housing,
permanent
housing
and
supports
and
and
those
conversations
I
think,
sayed's
talked
about
the
the
growth
of
supportive
housing.
Particularly
there
are,
there
is
unique
opportunity,
so
we
just
want
to
to
bring
focus
because
there's
a
lot
in
the
10-year
homelessness
plan.
So
when
we
address
and
when
we
speak
to
the
provincial
and
federal
government,
it's
important
that
we
we
prioritize
what
we
want
to
bring
to
their
attention.
A
E
A
A
A
Okay,
we'll
move
on
to
something
completely
different
item
number
two
is
a
site
plan:
control
for
2020,
walkley,
road
and
2935
conroy
road
in
gloucester
southgate
we
will
have
a
short
presentation
from
city
staff
and
then
we'll
have
a
short
presentation
from
the
applicant
and
then
we
have
five
delegations
who
are
registered
so
we'll
go
to
delegations
after
that.
So
we'll
begin
with
mr.
D
Chair
presentation:
yes,
just
on
a
point
of
order,
one
of
the
delegations
who's
been
waiting
all
morning.
The
president
of
the
hunt
club
park
community
association
has
a
scheduling,
conflict
and
has
to
leave
at
11
15..
I
was
wondering
if
there
would
be
an
opportunity
for
him
to
be
able
to
speak
before
he
has
to
leave.
D
A
P
E
A
E
E
And
I
really
appreciate
you
making
the
accommodation
for
me.
I
do
apologize,
but
it's
an
important
issue,
and-
and
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
talk
earlier
I'll,
be
brief,
because
we
have
connie
from
our
association
and
working
from
our
neighboring
association,
also
on
the
call
just
to
lay
out
the
facts.
E
E
A
E
P
Thank
you
chair
and
counselor
deans.
I
am
moving
these
on
behalf
of
councillor
deans
and
who
is
the
ward
councillor,
but
not
not
a
member
of
planning
committee
and,
and
so
they
are.
If
I
can,
they
are,
I
think,
mutually
exclusive.
If
one
is
passed
and
the
other
two
do
not
need
to
pass
so
I
will
that
they're
on
the
screen,
you
can
read
the
whereases.
P
The
first
motion
is
be:
it
resolved
that,
with
respect
to
the
report
that
is
before
us
as
a
condition
of
site
plan,
we
add
a
new
requirement
to
read
prior
to
registration.
The
owner
acknowledges
and
agrees
to
enter
into
roadway
modification
agreement
for
the
design
and
construction
at
the
sole
cost
of
the
owner,
a
fully
segregating
cycling
facility,
along
conroy
road
frontage,
from
waukee
road
to
san
juan
boulevard,
for
a
distance
of
approximately
300
meters,
all
to
the
satisfaction
of
the
general
manager
planning,
real
estate,
economic
development.
A
P
P
Be
it
resolve
that,
with
respect
to
the
report,
that's
before
us
the
conditions
of
site
plan
approval,
add
a
new
requirement
to
read
prior
to
registration.
The
owner
acknowledges
and
agreed
to
enter
into
a
roadway
modification
agreement
for
the
design
and
construction
at
the
sole
cost
of
the
owner
of
cycling.
A
Okay,
thank
you
councillor
glutes,
so
I
believe
the
main
concern
we're
going
to
hear
is
around
the
cycling
safety.
So
there
are
three
potential
solutions:
the
fully
segregated
cycling
facilities
is
motion,
one
the
cycling
ride,
overs
with
flex
posts
and
thermoplastic
is
motion.
Two
and
removal
of
one
of
the
proposed
entrances
is
motion.
Three
and
counselor
deans
will
give
you
an
opportunity
to
speak
to
these
also,
obviously,
but
let's
go
to
our
staff
presentation,
I
think
that's
sean
moore
good
morning,
sean.
F
Yes,
so
this
is
a
site
plan,
control
application
for
2020,
walkley
and
2935
conrai
road
next
slide.
Please,
the
site
has
street
frontage
on
walkie
road,
conroy,
road
and
sailor
moon
boulevard,
as
shown
in
the
location
map
and
staff,
are
here
before
planning
committee
on
the
basis
of
a
non-concurrence
for
a
site
plan,
control,
delegate
authority
report
on
cycling
facility
conditions
and
staff
are
seeking
endorsement
of
the
site
plan
and
related
conditions
with
delegated
authority
returning
to
staff.
Currently,
the
official
plan
designates
the
site
urban
employment.
F
The
new
op
also
has
a
mixed
industrial
type
of
employment.
Designation
and
the
site
is
zoned,
light
industrial,
permitting
warehousing
for
each
building
to
be
up
to
ten
thousand
square
meters
in
geo
gross
floor
area,
and
we
had
a
zoning
bylaw
amendment
that
came
before
planning
committee
back
in
november,
8th
of
2021
to
add
that
warehouse
use
and
cap
each
individual
building
at
10,
000
square
meters
and
that
went
to
committee
council
and
no
appeals
were
received
next
slide.
F
Please
so
here's
the
site
plan,
the
site
plan
is
for
the
construction
of
three
one-story
warehouse
buildings.
As
you
can
see
on
the
slide.
There's
two
existing
buildings
on
the
property
that
would
ultimately
be
demolished
in
the
phasing
and
each
of
the
buildings.
As
mentioned
before,
is
under
the
10
000
square
meter
gross
floor
area
cap.
F
In
total
there
will
be
about
265
parking
spaces
and
about
49
loading
docks
the
access,
there's
four
different
accesses,
there's
a
new
right
in
right
out
only
on
to
walkley
where
it
used
to
be
a
or
it
is
a
full
movement.
There's
an
existing
write-in
right
out
on
conroy.
There
will
be
a
new
write
in
right
out
access
on
conrai
south
of
the
existing
one
and
a
new
full
turning
access
on
sale
around
boulevard
next
slide,
please
so
the
site
fronts
onto
two
arterial,
roads,
conroy
and
walkley.
F
Improvements
to
these
arterial
roads
are
generally
city
responsibility
through
the
development
charge
bylaw
and
its
background
study,
cycling,
improvements
and
or
road
improvements
for
conrad
road
are
not
identified
in
the
affordable
network.
In
this
tc
background
study
the
next
slide,
please,
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that
the
frontage
of
along
the
site
along
conroy
is
part
of
the
city's
crosstown
bikeway,
as
shown
in
the
image.
This
is
schedule
c
of
the
official
plan
being
the
primary
urban
cycling
network.
Next
slide.
Please
just
wanted
to
show
the
existing
cycling
facility.
F
F
Next
slide,
please,
the
wackley
road
corner
road
intersection
has
no
specific
cycling
improvements
to
connect
from
conroy
across
walkway
to
the
existing
crosstown
bikeway,
which
travels
north
on
the
north
side
of
walkway,
westward
and
northward,
and
then
the
bottom
right
image
just
shows
that
that
north
connection
to
the
cycling
facility
on
the
north
side
of
walkway
next
slide.
Please
so.
F
Staff
are
recommending
the
developer,
install
thermoplastic
markings
at
the
entrances
to
both
the
existing
and
proposed
write-in
right
out
on
conroy
road,
and
these
would
be
similar
to
the
images
that
I've
provided
in
the
slide
on
churchill
and
laurier
staff
are
not
seeking
off-road
cycling
facilities
or
intersection
improvements
as
part
of
the
site
plan.
Approval
conditions
next
slide,
please.
F
A
J
Good
morning,
mr
chairman
yeah,
I
will
lead
the
presentation
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
introduce
to
the
committee.
The
people
are
with
me
this
morning
who
will
be
available
to
answer
questions
if
we
could
do
that
before
we
start
the
clock
and
then
I'll
go
into
the
presentation.
If
that's
satisfactory
to
the
chair
in
the
committee.
J
So,
thank
you
very
much,
mr
chairman,
members
of
the
committee.
My
name
is
murray
chown,
I'm
the
director
of
planning
development
at
nova,
tech
and
I
have
been
the
lead
consultant
with
respect
to
the
applications
for
the
zoning
and
site
plan.
Applications
that
have
been
processed
by
the
city
with
me
this
morning
is
jeff
kelly,
a
planner
on
my
team
colleague
with
my
team,
who
will
be
available
to
assist
if
there
are
any
detailed
questions
with
respect
to
the
applications.
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
It
is
not
referenced
in
the
background
report
for
the
development
charges
bylaw,
it
is
not
identified
in
the
2031,
affordable,
cycling
network.
There's
nothing
anywhere
to
suggest
that
a
cycle
track
a
segregated
cycle
track
is
an
appropriate
facility
or
a
required
facility
on
conroy
road
and
to
ask
for
it
through
a
site
plan
application
when
there's
it
has
no
status
in
the
city,
we
believe
is
unreasonable
and
inappropriate.
J
The
second
motion
speaks
to
ride
overs
flex
posts
and
the
thermal
treatment.
This
is
an
option
which
we
have
discussed
in
a
number
of
meetings
with
the
counselor,
and
it
was
never
indicated
to
us
that
that
was
a
option
that
was
acceptable
to
the
counselor.
We're
disappointed
that
it's
now
being
flagged
as
an
option
when
we
were
prepared
to
have
that
discussion
previously,
but
it
was
not
considered
acceptable.
J
J
So,
with
respect
as
the
time
click
takes
down
here,
we
would
ask
that
the
committee
turned
down
all
three
motions
that
have
been
tabled
on
behalf
of
the
counselor.
We
would
ask
the
committee
to
approve
the
recommendation
recommendations
from
staff
to
firstly
endorse
the
site
plan
application
and
the
conditions
attached
to
the
report
and
return
delegated
authority
to
staff.
J
D
But
the
the
discussion
here
and
the
the
difference
of
opinion
is
around
cycling
safety
and
we
do
have
zlatko
who
has
worked
on
this
file
and
I
think
his
perspective
is
an
important
perspective
for
this
committee
to
hear
in
their
decision
making.
So
if
the
committee
would
be
willing
to
ask
letco
to
attend,
I
would
very
much
appreciate
that.
A
Q
Good
morning,
I
wasn't
sure
if
I
could
control
my
yes,
okay,
I
got
my
video
now.
Okay,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
this
morning.
I
think
most
of
my
comments
will
complement
the
motions
have
been
tabled
by
chancellor
dean's,
not
because
I
was
coerced,
but
just
so.
I
think
we're
on
the
same
page.
Here
I
represent
south
keys
people
as
the
president
of
community
association.
Q
Many
of
our
residents
commute
from
a
northerly
direction
to
this
area,
along
with
an
increasing
number
of
residents
from
developments
to
the
south,
including
finley
creek.
So
it's
a
major
artery
up
into
the
city
which
is
itself
already
creating
concern,
so
the
the
addition
of
large
track
traffic
truck
traffic
in
this
area
is
the
primary
concern,
particularly
respect
to
the
cyclists
in
the
the
application
that
was
approved.
Originally
there's
a
lot
of
discussion
about
the
low
percentage
in
truck
traffic
increase.
Q
Q
Q
We're
also
very
concerned
because
the
developers
manulife
and
on
their
website
they
state-
and
I
quote,
with
nearly
7
million
square
feet
of
active
development
projects
in
the
pipeline.
Our
buildings
are
woven
into
the
fabric
of
our
communities
and
sustainably
designed
to
create
opportunity
of
foster
innovation.
Q
Q
Q
Sorry,
the
plan
they
talk
about
a
need
for
a
second
entrance.
In
fact,
if
you
look
at
the
plan,
the
first
phase
of
development
is
going
to
be
supported
by
the
entrance
on
san
loren
phase.
Two,
which
is
the
middle
building,
is
going
to
be
supported
by
the
new
entrants.
But
in
fact,
if
that
center
building
was
oriented
the
other
way
around
to
the
north,
it
would
be
adequately
serviced
by
the
one
entrance
that
already
exists.
Q
Q
If,
in
fact,
the
committee
is
not
prepared
to
adopt
any
of
the
motions,
but
I
would
also
like
to
refer
to
the
conveyance,
that's
part
of
the
agreement,
but
developers
conveying
land
to
the
city
for
development,
road
winding
at
conroy
and
walkley,
and
my
suggestion
would
be
the
last
stitch.
Effort
would
be
for
the
planning
committee
to
require
the
city
to
use
that
land
for
a
segregated
bike
lane
if
we
can't
get
it
any
other
way.
So
there
is
an
opportunity
to
build
that
into
this
update.
Q
I
also
want
to
draw
attention
to
the
city's
declared
intentions
to
encourage
active
transportation.
I
believe
this
is
an
opportunity
for
the
planning
committee
to
be
proactive
and
look
at
the
opportunity
to
include
in
this
development
why
it's
being
built,
which
has
to
be
the
most
important,
cost-effective
way
of
doing
it,
not
after
the
fact.
A
B
Good
morning
and
thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity
to
address
the
committee
on
this
topic
as
you're.
No
doubt
aware,
conroy
is
one
of
the
few
places
east
of
bank
street
to
get
across
the
rail
line
going
north
south.
It
joins
up
to
the
bike
path
that
runs
through
the
allotment
gardens
to
the
general
hospital
and
bicycle
commuters,
often
go
on
from
there
to
herdman
and
all
the
way
downtown
along
the
rideau
river.
B
The
green
borough
and
alta
vista
communities
cross,
walk
lee
and
take
conroy
for
the
purposes
of
schooling,
employment
and
recreation,
and
the
city's
new
official
plan
aims
to
better
accommodate
cyclists
and
pedestrians
of
all
ages
and
abilities
as
part
of
preparing
for
a
carbon
constrained
future
making
way
for
truck
traffic
at
the
expense
of
cyclists.
At
this
crucial
intersection
risks
undoing
all
of
the
stated
goals
of
the
official
plan.
B
I
strongly
urge
the
planning
committee
to
take
cyclists
needs
seriously
at
this
intersection,
all
the
more
so
in
that
there's
no
alternative
route
to
take
and
I'll
just
add.
My
understanding
of
the
official
plan
is
that
a
road
like
walkie
is
meant
to
develop
in
the
near
future,
into
an
urban
street
accommodating
trees,
bike
lanes,
transit
and
street,
facing
retail
single-story
warehouses
with
265-car
parking
lot
serving
large
truck
traffic
sounds
like
the
reverse
of
what
I
had
understood
to
be
the
future
of
walkley.
B
A
N
N
Is
this?
Is
this
kind
of
the
primary
concern
you're
trying
to
bring
out?
Is
that
there's
been
a
change
in
number
of
large
trucks
and
vehicles
here
and
that
or
will
be,
and
that
this
is
the
primary
reason
why
you're
seeking
this
change
or
is
there
is
it?
Has
it
been
a
long-standing
issue
prior
to
the
change
in
in
zoning
by
law,
amendment
for
that
warehouse
that
that
that's
coming.
A
N
Here
one
second:
let's
try
something
one!
Second,
okay,
can
you
hear
me?
Okay?
Is
that
better
or
no,
I
think
that's
better?
Is
that
better,
okay
see
how
this
goes,
so
I
just
I
just
trying
to
get
to
the
the
crux
of
the
issue
for
you
around
the
zoning
bylaw
amendment
that
was
changed
around
warehousing
in
this
area
and
is
that
the
primary
concern
you're
raising?
B
Yeah,
no
I'm
concerned
about
the
not
just
about
the
bike
path,
but
the
whole
the
presence
of
single-story
warehouses
along
walkway.
My
understanding
is
that
walkway
was
supposed
to
be
developing
in
the
opposite
direction
that
it
was
supposed
to
be
urbanizing.
It
was
supposed
to
be
housing,
smaller
lots
that
faced
the
street
that
supported
local
businesses
and
encouraged
a
mix
of
uses
along
wackley,
so
yeah.
I
I
don't
go
far
back
on
this
issue.
B
A
E
Good
morning,
thank
you
for
having
me.
Yes,
I'm
going
to
speak
in
support
of
the
cycle,
track
and
dedicated
cycle
track,
and
the
reason
is,
it
would
allow
us
to
more
safely
and
easily
transition
from
the
multi-use
path
that
is
currently
following
conroy
road
at
samara
to
get
onto
the
existing
psychopath.
That's
at
the
intersections
of
conrad
and
walk
league
that
go
north
of
walkway
currently
and
today,
and
this
might
answer
sean's
question
a
bit
that
he
had
for
janet-
is
that
it's
already
quite
busy
at
that
intersection.
E
So
what
people
tend
to
do
is
sometimes
travel
on
the
sidewalk,
but
then
you
have
conflicts
with
pedestrians,
and
so
I
I
know
personally,
I
just
avoid
the
intersection
and
don't
use
that
pat
that
way
of
getting
on
to
the
existing
bike
path.
On
walkway
I
tend
to
detour
around
it
and
go
through
parking
lots
and
tim
horton,
driveways
and
so
forth.
E
So
really,
I'm
just
speaking
from
a
personal
standpoint
for
cycling
around
that
area
that
I
today
avoid
it.
I
think
it's
going
to
become
even
more
so
an
intersection
to
avoid,
because
there's
going
to
be
more
in
and
out
traffic
and
bigger
trucks,
and
then
you
feel
vulnerable
not
being
able
to
know
what
the
traffic
is
coming
behind
you.
A
E
E
While
she
was
cycling
and
she
died,
I
don't
need
to
tell
you
about
the
enormous
ripple
of
grief
that
goes
through
families
and
colleagues
and
communities
when
something
like
that
happens,
and
I
don't
want
to
see
it
happen
here
as
a
cyclist
in
this
area.
I'd
love
to
see
stronger
measures
taken
to
help
decrease
the
truck
driver,
reliability,
the
increase,
the
safety
and
the
visibility
for
cyclists
and
pedestrians
that
better
serve.
E
This
often
used
connection
between
two
really
excellent
bike
path:
networks
from
the
altivisa
side
and
the
greenbro
side,
and
just
ultimately
make
it
safer
to
this
increase
in
massive
truck
traffic.
That's
being
proposed
earlier,
the
applicant
mentioned
the
cost
that
they
would
have
to
undertake,
and
I
would
just
like
them
to
maybe
think
about
how
much
it
would
cost
them
if
a
cyclist
or
a
pedestrian
was
struck
or
killed.
E
E
N
N
This
is
the
type
of
thing
that
developers
should
be
looking
at
when
they're
putting
up
buildings,
that'll
affect
more
traffic,
affect
city
services
and
safety
for
people,
and
so
in
other
instances.
In
other
examples,
we
are
seeing
some
developers
working
to
to
do
this
sort
of
thing.
So
I
hope-
and
I
expected
your
answer-
would
be-
that
you
feel
that
there
should
be
the
same
type
of
investment.
E
I
would
say
I
I'm
happy
to
hear
that
there's
changes
being
proposed
and
supported
by
the
new
developments
that
are
coming
into
that
area
because,
as
mentioned
you
know,
one
of
these
is
is
too
many
and
we
don't
want
to
see
more
of
them,
and
so
I
would
expect
the
same
out
of
the
applicant
for
this
area
as
well.
If
you're
making
such
significant
changes
to
this
area,
that's
going
to
affect
people's
safety
and
and
lives.
N
A
D
D
My
thinking
and
I
wanted
to
give
zlatko
an
opportunity
to
explain
his
thinking
from
the
city's
active
transportation
perspective
about
the
changes
that
have
been
made
through
the
zoning
of
this
site
as
warehouse
and
how
we
can
ensure
the
safety
of
cyclists.
So
whenever
you
think
that
time
is
appropriate,
I
will
do
that.
M
Thank
you
chair.
It's,
it
is
frustrating
being
here
today
in
that
this
is
a
site
plan
application.
We
don't
have
a
statutory
authority
to
require
building
a
cycle
track.
This
is
a
stretch
that
clearly
requires
one
and
you
know
we're
putting
a
lot
of
onus
on
a
single
development
to
improve
and
upgrade
the
infrastructure
on
a
key
city,
spine
route
that
frankly,
the
city
should
be
doing.
M
J
J
We
agreed
to
do
that
at
the
time
that
committee
and
council
dealt
with
zoning.
Not
only
did
we
agree
to
provide
the
green
thermoplastic
treatment
at
the
two
entrances.
We
also
agreed
to
apply
that
treatment
where
the
cycle
lane
crosses
the
right
turn
lane
at
the
intersection
at
walkley
and
conride.
So
that's
already
a
done
deal.
J
J
J
J
It
is
there's
two
answers
to
that
question
and
one.
If
the
committee
will
indulge
us
I'll
ask
jennifer
to
speak
to
the
comments
about
the
number
of
additional
truck
trips
or
truck
movements
that
will
be
generated
by
this
development
and
they're
actually
minimal.
One
of
the
delegations
use
the
term
massive
increase
in
truck
traffic.
That
simply
is
not
the
case,
but
it
is
so
one
we're
not
talking
about
a
lot
of
trucks.
J
J
We
want
to
be
able
to
bring
the
trucks
in
and
out
of
the
site
in
a
safe
and
efficient
manner.
You
know
we're
talking
about
bicycle
safety,
but
we
also
have
to
talk
about
the
safety
of
the
people
on
the
site.
We
don't
want
to
encourage
trucks
to
be
meandering
all
the
way
through
the
site
when
they
can
get
in
and
out
of
the
site
safely
using
the
accesses
on
conroy
road.
It
is
very
much
a
functional
question
and
you
know
for
the
record.
J
You
know:
city
staff
have
not
raised
any
concerns
with
respect
to
the
introduction
of
the
sentence.
Second
entrance
on
conroy
road,
so
functionally
it's
the
only
way
the
site
works.
If
you
allow
ms
long
just
to
comment
briefly,
there
really
aren't
that
many
additional
truck
trips
being
added
in
the
first
place.
E
Yes,
in
the
traffic
study
that
was
prepared,
we
had
identified
overall
all
trips
for
the
development
or
in
the
order
of
45
vehicles,
an
hour
which
is
a
big
reduction
compared
to
the
existing
uses
on
site,
but
the
truck
component
itself
of
that
45
trips.
We
had
identified
that
during
the
am
and
pm
peaks
when
traffic
is
the
busiest
on
the
roads,
it's
likely
to
be
in
the
order
of
five
to
ten
trucks
per
hour.
M
Every
single
one
of
those
garages
is
a
potential
conflict
every
morning
every
afternoon
when
I'm
going
by,
but
I
also
do
understand
that
it
would
create
some
significant
safety
issues
within
the
site
if
you
have
trucks
trying
to
to
maneuver
around
each
other.
I
I
guess
my
my
strong
urging
to
the
to
the
applicant
is
to
tell
us
that
they
agree
with
the
with
the
second.
M
R
Thanks,
I
might
just
be
building
on
what
council
libra
was
touching
on,
because
I
think
some
of
the
points
were
actually
covered
by
that.
I
think
we
have
a
you
know.
I
know
the
counselor
wants
to
have
zlatan
talk
about
cycling
safety
and
I
think
we
we
veer
away
from
site
plan
when
we
do
that,
because
I
think
there's,
I
don't
think,
there's
a
question
here
about
merit,
but
it's
about
what
is
an
applicant
responsible
for
and
what
leads
to
them
being
responsible
for
such
an
improvement
at
their
entire
costs.
R
As
council
liberty
pointed
out
that
there
are
obligations
of
the
city
that
we
should
be
doing
in
certain
areas
across
the
city.
We
had
this
another
site
plan
application
where
we
were
talking
about
improvements
of
a
safety
issue,
three
kilometers
away
from
a
site
where
the
applicant
was
was
building.
You
know,
I
think,
there's
recipe
within
reason,
but
just
on
the
comment
about
when
an
applicant
brings
forward,
something
that
has
a
traffic
impact
and
an
increased
traffic
impact
and
the
bank
and
riverside
example
was
was
brought
up.
R
R
So
we're
asking
we're
asking
an
applicant
to
make
a
to
make
an
improvement
based
on
traffic
concerns,
but
there's
no
actual
increase.
It's
actually
decrease
in
the
overall
traffic
on
the
site.
I
think
that
that
makes
a
challenge
that
makes
our
position
challenging.
I
think
if
this
was
fully
bill,
109
was,
in
effect.
This
was
fully
on
delegated
authority.
R
So
it's
interesting.
We
find
ourselves
here
because
I
think
we
could
have
avoided
being
here
at
committee
if
there
was
a
willingness
to
accept
that.
Second,
that
second
motion-
that's
in
front
of
us,
which
is
really
a
substitute
motion
to
the
first
one.
If
the
first
one
doesn't
doesn't
succeed,
so
many
interesting
anyways,
I
appreciate
jennifer
the
the
information
about
the
traffic,
the
traffic
piece
thanks.
D
I'm
finding
the
process
a
little
difficult,
because
I
would
like
to
lay
out
my
thinking
at
some
point.
But
okay
we'll
go
to
questions
to
staff,
and
I
think
the
the
main
question
to
zlatko
is
to
to
explain
to
the
committee
his
rationale
for
why
this
should
have
a
cycling
track,
and
I
just
want
to
be
clear:
I'm
not
asking,
as
you
may
have
been
left
the
impression
after
murray
spoke.
D
So
I
I
just
wanted
to
ask
zlatko
to
to
frame
this
out
for
the
committee
to
explain
you
know
we
went.
I
was
told
early
on
this
process
by
the
proponent
that
this
was
not
a
well-used
active
transportation
corridor
such
as
not
the
case,
and
I
I
want
slideco
to
explain
how
how
busy
this
this
corridor
is
for
active
transportation,
the
challenges,
especially
at
that
corner
for
cyclists
and
for
safe
cycling,
and
why
the
right
solution
would
be.
The
first
motion
that
counselor
clute
introduced
on
my
behalf
so
zlatko
over
to
you.
C
Thank
you
to
the
chair,
I'd
like
to
just
focus
my
comments
on
what
what
the
current
cycling
plan
indicates
and
what
some
of
the
design
guidance
is
so
to
the
question
of.
Would
we
if
we
were
reconstructing
walkway
if
we
were
building
parmie
conroy
road
again,
there's
no
question
that
a
road
of
that
class
would
be
given
protected
bike
facilities,
including
treatments
around
entrances
and
intersections
that
provide
what
we
call
some
buff
some
space
to
mitigate
right
turn
hazards
that
sort
of
guidance
can
be
found
not
only
in
the
2013
cycling
plan.
C
If
you
look
at
page,
44
exhibit
4.7
for
a
road
of
that
class.
It's
also
appeared
in
book
18,
including
the
latest
revision
of
book
18,
which
is
to
say
that
a
road
with
that
speed
and
that
traffic
volume
level
we
would
not
in
the
future
if
we
were
building
a
roadway,
put
a
painted
bike
lane
in
there.
C
So
I
think
all
our
guidance
is
clear
that
you
know
what
we
see
there
today
was
the
thinking
of
the
past
many
years
ago,
and
the
thinking
going
forward,
even
as
of
2013
cycling
plan,
is
clearly
suggesting
some
different
solution.
Going
forward
to
the
question
of.
Is
this
an
important
route
for
cycling?
C
D
C
A
Thanks,
I'm
glad
zlatko
mentioned
that
mop
on
the
west
side
of
conroy
goes
from
hunt
club
to
wackley,
and
it's
separated
entirely
doesn't
have
a
center
line
down
and
it
maybe
is
not
quite
as
wide
as
some
of
the
current
ones,
but
there
is
a
good
alternative
on
the
west
side
for
cyclists
as
well.
Councilor
moffitt,
chair
moffett,.
R
Thanks,
I'm
just
trying
I
mean
we're
supposed
to
be
in
the
context
of
a
site
plan,
but
just
out
of
curiosity
to
zlatko,
I
could
turn
this
camera
off.
You
just
raised
a
bunch
of
comments
about
the
of
hunt,
club
and
conroy
road.
Sorry,
walkley
and
conway
wrote
what
what
plans
does
the
city
have
to
address
those
that
you've
just
identified.
M
Forgive
me
this
might
have
been
for
the
applicant,
but
I'll
ask
the
city
staff
instead
in
terms
of
the
modifications
that
will
be
done
to
the
roadway,
I'm
assuming
the
roadway
is
not
going
to
be
touched
in
the
course
of
constructing
this
building.
Obviously
a
new
egress
will
be
built,
so
that's
going
to
be
fresh
asphalt
and
can
be
constructed
with
a
ride
over
relatively
inexpensively
is
the
existing
entry
egress
going
to
be
modified
at
all.
F
Co-Chairs
we
had,
we
had
alta,
provide
some
costing
for
for
staff
on
these
options,
so
the
the
the
egress.
If
the
question
is
the
egret,
the
egress
would
be
existing.
One
would
be
altered
for
in
case
of
the
motion,
two
the
ride
over
and
and
the
second
right
in
right
out
entrance
south
of
that.
So
yes,
that's.
What
motion
two
would
would
require
it
require
the
existing
egress
to
be
to
be
altered,
but
under
the
current
site
plan
proposal,
it's
it's
not
proposed
to
be
to
be
altered.
M
M
Yeah
and
zlatko,
can
I
just
ask
since
we're
in
this
realm,
like
we're
well
beyond
what
the
statutory
authority
of
the
site
plan
process
provides.
What
is
our
opportunity
to
take
a
look
at
conroy,
because
I
I
I'm
hearing
from
the
cyclists
and
I'm
coming
to
grips
with
the
importance
of
this
intersection?
C
The
the
big
opportunity
that's
coming
up
in
the
short
term
is
we
are
taking
the
active
transportation
plan
project
list
for
2024
to
2046
to
committee
and
council
in
q1
of
next
year.
There's
been
extensive
consultation
on
it
up
to
this
point
that
particular
project
or
the
potential
of
a
project
along
walk
lee
to
upgrade
either
the
corridor
or
the
pardon
me
on
conroy
for
either
the
corridor
or
the
intersection
with
walkway
was
not
currently
on
there
as
a
project.
D
Thank
you
very
much
councillor
gower
and
thanks
to
the
committee
for
hearing
this
site
plan
issue
today.
I
know
that
it's
a
it's
a
dilemma,
because
the
city
bylaws
have
not
kept
pace
with
the
city's
views
in
terms
of
active
transportation
and
the
priority
that
should
be
given
to
active
transportation
going
forward.
You
know
where
our
dc
bylaw
was
established
in
2013
and
didn't
include
this,
and
so
that
is
the
impediment
to
actually
requiring
now
the
cycle
track,
which
is
the
city's
current
standard.
D
They
felt
that
conroy
road
is
a
very
important
transportation
corridor
for
commuters
of
all
types
car
road
users,
as
well
as
cyclists
and
pedestrians,
and
that
allowing
truck
traffic
more
truck
traffic
at
that
busy
intersection
of
conroy
and
walkley
would
create
unsafe
situations.
But
of
course
those
were
site
plan
issues.
So
the
notion
was
to
pass
the
zoning
approval
and
address
the
very
real
safety
concerns
of
the
community
through
the
site
plan
process.
D
D
But
what
you
didn't
hear
from
the
proponent
is
the
traffic
right
now,
primarily
from
that
site
is
from
the
city's
social
services
building,
it's
people
that
come
in
to
work
and
go
out
in
their
cars
and
their
primary
access
point
is
on
walkway,
not
on
conroy.
So
what
we're
doing
is
perhaps
taking
some
traffic
off
walkley
road
car
traffic
and
adding
truck
traffic
at
the
very
busy
intersection
of
conroy
and
walkley,
where
cyclists
are
using
that
road
to
as
commuters
to
go
downtown,
and
that
is
that
is
the
dilemma.
D
D
When
we
looked
at
all
of
the
solutions,
the
the
the
actual
correct
solution
would
be
a
cycle
track
along
the
frontage
of
that
property,
with
signal
work
at
the
intersection
so
that
pedestrians
know
or
or
cyclists
would
no
longer
have
to
cross
two
lanes
of
traffic.
At
that
busy
intersection
to
a
floating
bike
lane
to
go
around
the
corner.
I
mean
it
is
very
dangerous.
D
I
I
personally
as
a
pretty
novel
novel
cyclists
would
would
not
even
attempt
that
at
that
intersection,
but
that
the
city
provided
costing
of
all
these
options,
that
cost
was
seven
hundred
and
fifteen
thousand
000.
I
recognized
that
that
was
probably
excessive
to
ask
the
proponent
to
cover,
and
so
we
didn't
go
with
that,
but
the
costs
for
the
cycle
tracks,
which
are
the
correct
solution.
The
costing
range
was
290
000
to
325
000.,
something
that
I
think
is
affordable
and
reasonable.
D
D
I
I
did
not
feel
that
I
could
accept
that
as
the
right
solution
for
the
community,
because
it's
not
the
best
solution,
I
mean
part
of
it-
is
flex
stakes.
We
all
know
those
are
seasonal.
This
is
not
just
a
seasonal
area,
so,
of
course,
to
counselor
leapers
a
very
good
point.
This
is
better
than
nothing
but
it
it
is
not
the
real
the
correct
solution
for
this
busy
intersection.
D
D
If
we
don't
have
a
safe,
cycling
solution-
and
I
don't
think
you
should-
and
you
heard
from
the
president
of
south
keys,
greenberg
community
association
this
morning
say
well,
you
could
easily
do
with
one
if
you
just
flipped
the
building
so
that
the
the
truck
entrance
was
facing
north
instead
of
south
and-
and
that
is
quite
correct-
I'm
you
know
I'm
I'm
not
here
to
ask
you
to
revisit
the
zoning
or
even
to
you
know,
oppose
the
site
plan.
I'm
asking
you
to
consider
the
safety
of
our
citizens.
D
Our
cycling
citizens
recognize
that
cycling
has
grown
in
popularity,
even
in
suburban
communities
like
the
one
that
I
represent,
as
gas
prices
increase,
more
and
more
people
are
choosing
cycling
as
a
commuting
option.
This
is,
as
I
said,
the
super
highway
of
cycling
for
the
south
end
of
the
city
and
with
the
rail
tracks
that
run
through.
D
There
are
very
few
other
options
available
to
cyclists.
So
getting
this
correct
is
very
important
and
that's
why
I
asked
the
committee
to
prepare
to
consider
this
this
morning,
so
I
I
really
feel
the
correct
solution
is
the
first
motion
we
put
forward.
If
that
loses,
I
would
ask
you
at
the
very
minimum
I
do
believe
there
is
some
willingness,
especially
for
manulife.
They
have
expressed
to
me
in
meetings
that
they
recognize
the
importance
of
cycling
safety
and
I
think
martin
neely
from
the
community
association
pointed
out
even
on
their
own
website.
D
A
Thanks,
thank
you,
counselor.
I
wanted
to
ask
a
quick
question
to
staff.
If
I
could
do,
we
know
a
ballpark
of
what
development
fees
are
applicable
for
a
site
like
this.
Are
we
talking
tens
of
thousands
or
hundreds
of
thousands?
I
just
I'm
trying
to
for
my
for
myself,
trying
to
put
in
context
300
000
what
that
means
in
terms
of
other
fees,
they're
paying
here
or
even
even
the
70,
to
80
000
for
the
for
the
thermoplastin
ride
overs.
What
what's
the
order
of
magnitude
for
development
churches.
F
A
E
The
chair,
the
warehouse,
what
would
the
founder
the
category
of
industrial
buildings,
which
are
typically
the
over
ten
dollars
per
square
foot?
I
believe
the
the
dc
has
been
increased
multiple
times
over
the
past
year
and
the
most
recent
was
in
april
first
on
april.
First,
and
then
there
will
be
another
increase
on
october
1st
totaling
17
increase
from
the
current
rate.
A
Okay,
thank
you
so
so,
even
even
the
ride
over
solution
is
is
a
fairly
significant
above
and
beyond
contribution
to
what
we
would
normally
require
for
development
charges
which
do
indirectly
fund
city
infrastructure
projects
that
would
include
would
include
cycling
as
well,
although
not
in
this
immediate
location,
directly,
okay!
Well,
let's,
let's
go
through
the
motions,
then
motion
number
one
from
counselor
deans,
which
was
introduced
by
counselor
klutiev.
We
can
bring
that
up
on
the
screen.
A
C
H
A
A
A
R
P
A
H
A
R
A
A
Okay,
now
we'll
proceed.
So
this
item
is
number
three
on
the
agenda.
The
official
plan
amendment
and
zoning
amendment
for
70,
richmond,
road
and
376
island
park
drive
we'll
start
with
a
short
staff
presentation
and
then
a
presentation
from
the
applicant
also,
hopefully
short,
and
then
we
have
four
public
delegations
registered.
So
jc
renault
is
here
from
planning
and
we'll
get
your
slides
up
on
screen
and
you
can
begin
when
you're
ready.
S
So
the
property
in
question
just
get
adjusted
here.
Properties
in
question
is
located
at
the
southwest
intersection
of
richmond
road
and
island
park
drive
within
the
westborough
neighborhood
next
slide.
Please
that's
the
close-up
view
of
the
two
properties,
one
franticon
richmond
and
the
other
fronting
on
island
park
drive
next
slide.
Please,
and
this
is
an
overhead
shot,
bird's
eye
view
of
the
location,
the
identified
blue
star
to
the
right
of
your
screen,
as
well
as
the
surrounding
context.
S
S
The
current
zoning
on
the
property,
the
70
richmond
road
property
is
zone,
tm
83,
with
a
height
limit
of
15
meters
and
the
island
park.
Drive
property
is
zoned,
r1
mm
exception
2501,
so
the
traditional
main
street
zone,
like
I
said,
currently
permits
heights
up
to
15
meters
and
exception.
83
permits
additional
automobile
related
uses.
Such
as
a
gas
bar
and
an
auto
dealership,
the
r1
zone
mainly
permits
detached
dwellings
and
its
exception.
2501
establishes
a
minimum
lot
area,
minimum
rear
yard
setback
and
minimum
front
yard.
S
The
zoning
schedule
would
establish
setbacks,
step
backs
and
maximum
height
for
the
building.
The
site-specific
exception
would
permit
an
enclosed
rooftop
amenity
space
to
be
considered
as
permitted
projection
would
include
a
minimum
width
of
a
driveway
of
5.4
meters,
which
reflects
the
current
width
of
the
existing
the
existing
public
easement.
S
It
would
permit
a
mezzanine
on
the
first
floor
to
not
be
considered
as
a
story,
and
the
next
two
are
included
in
order
to
protect
the
residential
neighborhood
to
the
south.
So
no
commercial
unit
or
sorry
commercial
units
would
only
be
permitted
within
the
first
30
31
meters
of
the
property
starting
at
richmond
road
and
no
commercial
units
would
be
permitted
to
have
an
active
entrance
facing
island
park
drive
and
the
last
thing
would
be
section:
197
13
does
not
apply,
and
that
section
is.
S
It
just
relates
to
the
provisions
of
active
entrances
being
towards
the
main
street.
In
this
case,
residential
units
would
face
island
park.
Drive
next
slide,
please
so
just
a
brief
overview
of,
or
just
a
view
of,
the
proposed
site
plan.
The
different
shades
of
gray
highlight
the
different
stories
and
show
transition
towards
richmond
road
towards
island
park
drive
but,
more
importantly,
towards
the
neighborhood
to
the
south.
S
Next
slide,
please,
a
heritage
permit
has
been
submitted
to
alter
the
former
champlain
oil
committee
service
station.
The
alterations
include
the
on-site,
relocation
and
rehabilitation
of
the
services
of
this
service
station.
Sorry
and
its
integration
into
the
proposed
building
heritage
staff
are
of
the
opinion
that
the
design
and
proposed
development
is
compatible
service
station
and
that
the
relocation
of
the
building
will
maintain
the
resources
cultural
heritage.
Value
consultation
with
the
build
heritage
subcommittee
has
taken
place
on
may
10th
2022
next
slide
in
accordance
with
the
council,
approved
guidelines
and
discussions
with
the
word.
S
Counselor
benefits
have
been,
or
will
be
secured
in
a
section
37
agreement
and
consist
of
a
cash
contribution
of
750
000
towards
improvement
to
the
island
park,
drive
and
richmond
road
intersection,
as
well
as
a
cash
contribution
of
just
under
195
thousand
dollars
to
be
put
into
the
ward,
15
ward,
specific,
affordable
housing
fund
next
slide.
Please
and
just
a
brief
policy
overview.
S
So
the
proposal
is
consistent
with
official
plan
policies,
both
in
the
current
and
the
new
official
plan.
It
is
also
consistent
with
the
richmond
road
westboro
secondary
plan
policies
consistent
with
the
urban
design
guidelines
for
transit,
oriented
development
and
the
proposed
zoning
bylaws
supports
the
intent
of
the
zoning
viola.
A
A
A
O
O
The
context
provided
by
by
mr
renault
was
helpful.
The
only
thing
I
want
to
point
out
and
google
images
street
view
and
ariel
hasn't
quite
caught
up
yet,
but
the
mizrahi
development
is
on
the
northeast
corner
of
the
richmond
road
island
park
or
wellington
street
west
intersection
just
on
the
east
side
of
rockhurst
road,
and
that
is
a
12-story
condominium
building
under
construction.
O
If
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
we
can
see
what
those
instances
are
so
when
the
building
conforms
to
prevailing
building
heights
or
provides
a
transition
between
existing
buildings,
where
the
development
fosters
a
gateway
at
a
corner
location
or
where
there's
opportunities
to
support
transit,
where
the
development
incorporates
facilities
such
as
section
37
items
and
things
like
heritage
preservation,
as
noted
in
section
521
of
the
official
plan
and
where
the
urban
design
objectives
and
criteria
of
the
official
plan
are
met.
So
in
our
opinion,
this
site
is
suitable
for
greater
height.
O
Given
all
these
criteria,
we
we
are
of
the
opinion
that
we
satisfy
all
of
these
criteria.
Actually,
in
that
we
are
preserving
heritage
on
the
site.
We
are
providing
section
37
benefits,
as
noted
by
staff.
This
site
is
a
gateway,
location
and,
and
the
architecture
in
our
in
our
opinion
recognizes
that
the
heights
in
the
area
are
mixed,
ranging
from
two
to
twelve
stories,
but
the
the
prevailing
form
is
to
be
four
to
six,
so
that
has
been
accounted
for
in
that
development,
with
step
backs
and
setbacks.
O
As
noted
and
then
in
our
minds,
we
do
meet
the
urban
design
objectives
of
the
city
for
traditional
main
streets,
transit,
priority
corridors,
as
well
as
the
compatibility
criteria
for
development
in
terms
of
transition
and
height,
as
well
as
amenity
areas,
and
that
sort
of
thing
next
slide.
Please
so
there's
two
main
concerns
we
heard
from
the
community.
O
Through
the
last
year
and
a
half
of
consultation,
we
actually
initially
had
a
meeting
with
stat
with
the
community
in
2019,
when
we
could
do
it
in
person
presented
some
options,
and
then
we
did
have
a
virtual
meeting
in
december
after
submitting
the
application.
In
december
2020.,
I
would
say
the
most
notable
concern
we
heard
was
about
transition.
The
initial
application
did
include
just
70
richmond
road
after
the
first
round
circulation.
O
The
other
concern
we
heard
was
about
the
setback
from
island
park
drive,
and
so
this
blue
line
is
just
demonstrating
our
efforts
to
step
back
the
building
facade,
ranging
from
a
zero
meter
setback
closer
to
richmond
road
to
a
six
meter.
Setback
on
the
376
island
park
parcel
to
the
7.6
meters
on
island
park
drive,
the
7.6
was
established
through
site-specific
zoning.
A
E
T
T
So
we
originally
came
from
maine
and
maine,
with
foe
tennis,
planner,
buying
richmond
road
and
proposing
a
single
story:
drive-through
coffee
shop,
keeping
a
heritage,
gas
station
soil,
remediation
and
25-foot
setbacks
as
a
profitable
development
and
now
to
an
11-story
high
building.
Demolishing
364
island
park
drive
disrespecting
the
setbacks,
because
the
trinity
is
saying
it's
not
feasible
to
do
anything
less
so
by
the
way,
I'd
like
to
encourage
the
city
to
consider
doing
a
drive-through
cycle
coffee
shop,
but
would
probably
be
the
first
in
canada,
they're
big
in
europe.
T
Trinity
now
is
asking
for
85
units
that
will
arguably
sell
for
a
conservative,
600,
000
or
51
million
to
justify
developing
the
lot.
Surely
a
smaller
development
is
workable
for
the
sake
of
resident
safety.
At
this
intersection
and
maintaining
the
history
of
island
park
drive,
the
city
has
the
power
to
set
a
new
duty
of
proof
for
developers
asking
that
they
can
justify
the
cost
to
doing
excessive
development
area.
Specific
zoning
when
we
did
apply
for
area
specific
zoning
to
replace
the
expiring
covenants
four
corner
lots
we're
not
sure
why
they
were
missed.
T
As
the
city
surely
developed
was
worthy
enough
for
harvard
to
publish
his
paper
and
it
I
found
a
copy
of
it
in
the
harvard
school
of
urban
planning
library,
and
we
strongly
feel
that
allowing
any
developer
to
circumvent
the
spirit
of
the
original
covenant
signed
by
land
owners
and
the
ncc
is
disrespectful
to
the
algonquin
anishinabe
nation,
whose
ancestry
and
love
of
the
land
was.
What
inspired
the
ottawa
improvement
commission
to
line
island
park
drive
with
the
native
great
oaks
setting
a
precedent
for
island
park.
Drive's
future.
T
It's
worth
noting
that
any
town
homes
on
or
commercial
activity
that
is
on
island
park
drive
will
absolutely
set
a
precedence
that
will
be
used
by
other
developers.
If
we
don't
think
that
townhomes
on
our
park
drive
will
set
a
precedent.
Perhaps
I
can
explain
that
when
I
testified
at
the
mizrahi
omb
hearing
I
cited
circumventing
that
community
design
plan
will
set
a
precedent.
T
T
T
T
A
A
G
Let's
begin
remember,
thank
you
for
having
me
the
members
of
ipca
oppose
the
proposal
at
70
richmond
in
376..
Some
of
what
I
say
will
echo,
which
I
just
said-
we're
not
opposed
to
intensification.
We're
not
here
to
complain
about
property
values,
we're
here
to
ask
for
two
modifications:
a
larger
setback
from
the
parkway,
a
greater
separation
from
the
neighboring
house.
G
It
was
stressed
at
trinity's,
first
public
meeting
that
there
were
setbacks
along
island
park,
drive
or
a
defining
feature
of
the
neighborhood
worth
preserving,
and
we
couldn't
agree
more
with
that.
As
jen
said,
the
parkway
is
a
hundred
years
old,
designed
by
todd
a
celebrated
architect
and
advocate
of
the
city,
beautiful
movement
as
part
of
his
plan
to
beautify
the
city,
make
it
a
world-class
capital
and
promote
the
health
of
its
residents.
G
So
the
ncc
rightly
notes
that
it's
a
cultural
landscape
and
provides
a
gateway
to
the
region
and
beautiful
perspectives
on
the
capital
and
the
link
from
the
experimental
farm
to
hampton
park
and
the
ottawa
river
along
island
park
is
no
less
worthy
of
protection
than
any
other
part
of
the
parkway
slide.
Three,
please
excuse
me.
G
Island
park
has
retained
its
character
for
almost
100
years
now
over
100
years,
but
not
by
accident.
It's
a
result
of
investments
by
residents
in
refurbishing
the
original
houses
and
when
they
rebuild,
they
have
preserved
the
exceptional
streetscape,
the
ncc,
for
as
long
as
it
had
jurisdiction,
regulated
development
by
enforcing
covenants
it
enforced.
It
provided
stone
gateways
and
cairns
and
street
signs
and
decorative
lighting
prohibited
commercial
vehicles.
Traffic
calming
and
has
maintained
the
tree
line.
Boulevard
slide
four.
Please
I'm
sorry
about
my
voice.
G
It's
also
worth
remembering
that
it
deliberately
kept
commercial
buildings
on
richmond
back
from
the
parkway
and
aligned
them
with
the
rear
of
houses
on
island
park.
Drive
grainy
photo,
but
you
can
see
it
there
slide
five.
Please
city
council
has
an
unblemished
record
of
protecting
the
parkway
when
the
covenants
expired.
It
was
planning
staff
that
had
devised
area
specific
zoning
to
preserve
the
various
setbacks
along
island
park,
drive
that
even
trinity
was
celebrating
at
its
meaning.
G
All
these
eff
investments
were
aimed
at
maintaining
the
look
and
feel
and
continuity
of
todd's
design
and
an
unobstructed
view
of
the
tree
line.
Boulevard
slide
six,
please.
The
trinity
proposal
undermines
all
these
investments.
The
magnitude
of
the
change
it
introduces
is
evident
in
their
need
for
relief
from
every
significant
regulation.
It
has
governed
use
density,
height,
setbacks
on
the
parkway
and
its
neighboring
sites
secondary
plan,
the
official
plan,
the
sections
dealing
with
special
streets,
mature
neighborhoods,
the
zoning
bylaw,
including
the
area
specific
zoning
passed
by
this
very
committee,
to
protect
the
parkway.
G
They
even
require
relief
from
the
very
tm
zoning
they're
asking
for
slide.
Seven,
please.
All
these
exceptions
come
at
the
expense
of
the
parkway
by
acquiring
376
island
park.
They
extended
the
frontage
of
their
site
along
the
parkway
to
52
meters.
That's
44
more
than
the
frontage
on
richmond
all
to
become
traditional
main
street
slide.
Seven,
no
part
of
the
building
respects
the
current
setbacks.
The
trees
delineating
the
parkway
from
the
commercial
uses
are
eliminated
slide
eight
place.
The
gas
station
is
to
move
from
behind
the
houses
to
well
out
in
front
slide.
Nine.
G
G
You
can't
see
the
clock,
so
I
hope
I
have
time
for
this,
but
regarding
the
rear
setback,
the
proposal
is
to
build
an
80
000
square
foot,
building
with
ground
level,
townhouse
units
that
face
the
adjacent
property,
not
just
the
street,
but
the
actual
house
next
door.
The
front
doors
of
these
units
will
be
3.9
meters
away
from
the
neighboring
residences
and
the
space
will
include
private
terraces.
G
This
is
half
the
distance
of
the
7.5
meters
required
in
tm
zones.
It
contrasts
sharply
with
the
mizrahi
building
separated
from
houses
on
garrison
by
a
two
lane
driveway
in
the
rear
yards
of
those
residences.
It
contrasts
with
the
ashcroft
building
separated
from
the
nearest
house
on
layton
by
a
two-lane,
driveway
private
fence,
a
tree
in
a
private
garage.
G
G
M
M
Our
suggestion,
early
in
the
process
to
consider
acquiring
that
property
was
to
provide
more
breathing
room.
This
doesn't
right
the
the
the
the
building,
rather
than
taking
advantage
of
some
increased
property
in
order
to
provide
a
better
transition
to
the
properties
to
the
south.
They
just
put
the
more
of
the
bulk
of
the
building
back
toward
the
south,
which
is
counter,
I
think,
to
what
many
of
us
had
hoped
to
see.
I'm
just
I'm
wondering
from
your
perspective.
M
One
of
them
is
the
lack
of
setback
to
the
property
to
the
south
and
you're
right
ordinarily,
on
a
traditional
main
street,
we
would
ask
for
seven
and
a
half
meters
of
buffer
to
the
properties
in
behind.
I
think
everyone
at
this
table
understands
why.
That
is
why
that
is
negative.
But
why
is
it
so
important
to
respect
the
setback?
That's
been
established
for
the
rest
of
island
park
drive
at
the
corner?
G
The
setback
long
island
park
right
now
long
island
park
yeah,
where
the
area
specific
zoning
ones
yeah
there's
two
things.
There
is
the
precedent
because
there's
the
eso
station
across
the
street-
and
I
know
john-
has
acquired
the
first
house
on
piccadilly
already,
so
we
we
could
easily
lose
one,
maybe
two
houses
on
that
side
of
the
street
and
secondly,
there
is
a
hundred
years
of
policy
here,
supporting
that
beautiful
boulevard,
and
this
puts
a
wall
that
really
does
cut
it.
G
G
G
The
setbacks
were
deemed
probably
among
the
most
significant
things
and
they're
being
lost
here
and
when
you
go
down
that
street
and
look
at
that
that
view
it's
going
to
be
building,
it's
not
going
to
be
this
beautiful
white
boulevard
and
that
slide
number
four.
I
gave
you
where
the
current
properties
are
lined
up
with
the
backs
of
the
houses.
That's
on
every
single
corner
and
mizrahi
preserves
that,
because
he's
going
to
have
a
parquet,
so
he's
lined
up
that.
That
was
part
of
the
original
vision.
G
M
G
If
you
recall
that
was
said
at
the
very
first
public
meeting,
but
that
was
a
defining
trait
really
important
to
preserve
and
it's
occurred
in
no
iteration
of
this
building
as
it
has
been
respected
and
it's
it's
really
kind
of
subset.
Obviously,
and-
and
I
think
it
is
intrinsic
to
the
parkway
that
if
you
just
brought
boulevard
one
last
thing
I
will
say
is
that
the
city
photos
that
were
presented
by
misha
brennan
renault
are.
A
G
G
Right,
so
they
don't.
What
you
need
to
do
is
stand
five
houses
back
and
just
see
that
beautiful
vista,
because
at
the
intersection
you
just
see
one
side
and
then
the
other,
but
that
continuity
and
my
last
slide,
I
tried
to
capture
it
with
the
line
you
see
where
the
fronts
of
the
houses
deeply
interrupted
by
the
extension
of
these,
even
that
little
bump
out
at
the
end,
I'm
not
even
sure
why
that's
there
I
mean
the
building
comes
out,
but
like
from
richmond
a
little
punch
out
and
just
almost
a
ton
of
slapping.
G
M
G
Recognize
the
realities
of
the
situation,
I
think
some
people
would
prefer
the
old,
the
first
iteration,
where
it
was
a
nine
story
building
even
but
preserve
the
house.
I
think
there's
some
bitterness
that
there's
a
mezzanine
being
counted
as
one
story
at
the
front
of
the
building,
but
it's
a
two-story
townhouse
on
the
south
end.
So
it's
really
two
stories,
but
it's
being
counted
as
one.
I
think
that
people
feel
that's
kind
of
double
dealing
too,
but
you
know
we
recognize
in
we're,
not
posting
intensification.
We
know
that
has
to
happen.
B
Hi
there.
Well,
I
don't
think,
am
I
on
mute?
No,
you
can
hear
me
so
cool
yeah,
so
jen
and
and
mark
and
paul
told
a
very
important
story
about
island
park,
drive
its
history
and
and
what
the
residents
want,
and
you
know,
as
paul
said,
we
acknowledge
that
this
corner
gonna
have
a
building
on
it.
If
that's
appropriate,
we're
looking
forward
to
having
the
new
neighbors,
you
know
when
they
come,
but
this
design
is
maybe
marginally
better
than
some
of
the
previous
iterations
it's.
B
So
it's
fair
to
say
that
right,
up
and
down
the
street
people
are
are
still
haven't
changed
their
minds
about
this
at
all.
I
so
I'm
not
going
to
reiterate
what
paul
and
jenna
mark
have
said,
because
it's
all
very
valid
and
it
represents
the
community's
point
of
view,
and
you
can
tell
there's
a
lot
of
passion
and
emotion
there,
especially
for
those
residents
that
live
close
there,
but
also
even
for
residents
along
the
street
because
of
its
implications
for
the
future.
B
So
I
at
this
stage,
I'm
going
to
focus
on
two
things
if
the
building
does
go
forward,
the
point
of
being
paying
very
close
attention
to
the
landscaping
and
site
planning.
Listening
to
the
last
discussion
there
on
up
on
on
the
bicycle
routes
and
the
and
the
and
the
issues
that
you
dealt
with
site
planning
and
the
previous
agenda
item,
it's
it's
an
example
of
where
how
important
the
site
planning
really
is
again.
B
B
Well,
the
ncc
has
been
you
know,
is
interested
in
this
and
and
they're
going
to
have
to
work
with
the
ncc
to
make
sure
it's
appropriate
for
the
boulevard
and
when
they
do
so,
we
hope
that
the
landscaping
will
be
appropriate
for
the
corner
and
for
useful.
You
know
use
of
the
residents
and
and
the
aesthetic
principles
of
the
boulevard.
B
The
other
thing
is
that,
as
as
as
noted
in
the
slides
money
has
is
going
to
be
attributed
here
for
this
to
upgrade
the
intersection
from
the
sections
30
37
benefits
we're
very
supportive
of
that,
and
we
would
hope
that
the
city
will
attribute
whatever
city
budget
and
ncc
budget
and
work
with
the
ncc
on
that
to
make
sure
that
those
those
improvements
to
the
intersections
don't
get
delayed.
It's
those
same
cycling
issues
all
these
other
things,
traffic
and
all
these
other
things.
B
This
building
will
put
pressure
on
that
intersection,
as
will
the
mizrahi
building
a
diagonal
across,
and
so
therefore,
we
need
to
have
an
appropriate
intersection
if
the
building
does
go
forward
to
make
sure
that
we
can
accommodate
the
increase
in
the
number
of
pedestrians,
cyclists
and
everyone
else
in
a
safe
way,
yeah
so
making
it
safe
and
attractive.
You
know
it.
A
lot
of
people
go
through
there
in
their
cars
and
their
bikes
as
pedestrians,
and
they
come
from
all
over
ottawa.
We
talked
about
the
in
the
again
the
previous
agenda
item.
B
This
is
a
big
corridor
for
the
city
of
ottawa,
and
so
it
should
be
preserving
the
value
of
the
the
beautiful
boulevard
and
the
the
the
parkway
system,
but
it
should
also
be
making
sure
that
it's
safe
and
practical
for
all
the
people
that
are
using
it.
So,
thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
make
a
presentation
on
behalf
of
residents
of
violin
park,
drive.
M
M
The
price
tag
is,
is
north
of
that,
but
my
sincere
hope
is
that,
by
putting
a
big,
big
chunk
of
what
is
required
into
it,
that
we
can
leverage
other
funding
in
order
to
accelerate
the
improvement
of
this
intersection.
According
to
the
plans
that
have
been
set
out
in
the
road
safety
action
plan
and
kathy,
my
commitment
obviously
is
to
continue
to
work
with
the
community
association
and
wider
community
through
the
site
plan
process.
M
M
A
A
H
H
I'm
the
owner
of
384
island
park
drive,
which
is
the
second
door
services
376
ipd,
which
is
part
of
the
proposed
work.
I've
written
three
letters
to
mr
renault
last
fall
and
none
of
the
items
in
my
letters
were
included
or
referenced.
In
the
report
for
this
committee,
I
wrote
to
mrs
crozier
your
coordinator
with
copies
of
the
letters
and
accepting
our
offer
to
pass
them
on
to
many
members.
H
First
item
is
my
ground
source
heating
system.
The
effect
of
this
application
will
reduce
the
effectiveness,
reduce
the
efficiency
or
damage
my
heating
and
cooling
system
in
july
of
2010.
I
changed
my
heating
and
cooling
system
to
a
ground
source
or
geothermal
heat
pump,
which
draws
and
rejects
heat
to
and
from
the
ground
by
three
drilled
holes
100
feet
deep
and
made
the
decision
based
to
do
this
based
partially
on
the
ground
conditions
existing
and
likely
to
exist
in
the
local
area.
H
All
three
of
my
letters
noted
the
likelihood
of
crippling
my
heating
system,
which
appears
to
be
ignored
in
the
application
and
by
the
city's
planning
department.
I
noted
to
mr
reynold
that
item
6.5
of
the
applicant's
geotechnical
report
has
a
statement
quote.
No
issues
are
expected
with
respect
to
groundwater.
Lowering
would
cause
long-term
damage
to
adjacent
structures
surrounding
the
proposed
building.
End
quote,
I
believe,
to
be
incorrect
in
the
circumstances,
because
there
will
be
short
and
long-term
effects.
H
The
existence
of
my
system
would
be
known
or
ought
to
be
known
to
the
applicant,
because
it's
my
understanding
that
it's
required
the
ontario
call
before
you
dig
system.
I
think
that's
the
ontario
one
call
system
now
when
a
senior
level
of
government
encourages
energy
efficiency
and
green
energy
sources.
Another
level
of
government
should
not
trash
that
effort,
as
this
application
proposes.
H
My
second
item
is
released
to
the
national
capture
commission
and
the
federal
crown
land
restrictions.
The
application
shows
doorways
and
walkways
on
the
ipd
side
of
the
proposal.
I've
not
found
the
approval
in
the
application,
as
required
by
the
national
capital,
commission's
traffic
and
property
regulations,
section
14.
H
voting
from
section
14,
the
permission
and
writing
of
the
ncc
is
required
for
any
private
road,
entranceway
gate
or
other
structure
facility
as
a
means
of
access
to
any
driveway
end
quote
by
driveway.
They
mean
in
this
case
island
park
drive
it's
the
owner's
obligation,
not
the
cities
to
get
the
written
approval
and
the
city
does
not
have
any
authority
or
role
in
getting
the
ncc
approval
for
the
applicant.
H
This
indicated
acceptance
by
this
committee
of
the
planning
rationale
included
in
the
report
and
some
history
it
provided
for
carrying
on
the
requirements
established
by
all
by
all
the
autumn
park
governments
or
agreements,
but
in
particular
the
agreement.
Three
five:
six,
eight
nine,
the
pin
from
december
of
1921,
because
at
the
time
of
the
that
planning
committee
meeting,
the
covenants
were
soon
to
expire.
H
This
covenant
apply.
This
specific
government
applies
to
all
properties
of
budding
ipd
from
the
grand
trunk
railway.
Now
the
queen's
way
to
richmond
road
and
provided
for
25
foot,
setback
of
buildings
and
fences
planning
committee's
intent,
then
was
to
maintain
the
streetscape
of
ipd
rationalist
ready's
report
is
approved
by
planning
committee
then
should
be
applied
to
reject
this
application,
which
trashes
this
committee's
intent
in
2018..
H
A
M
M
The
covenants
that
restricted
some
of
the
design
features
on
island
park
drive
expired
after
a
hundred
years
and
in
the
run-up
to
the
exploration
of
those
city,
council,
rezoned
or
added
new
provisions
to
the
zoning
for
the
r1m
zone
that
runs
along
island
park
drive
to
create
a
deeper
setback
from
the
property
line
than
we
would
normally
expect
to
see
in
an
r1.
So
the
setback
on
island
park
is
required
to
be
basically
what
it
is
today.
So
it
preserves
that
setback.
M
70
richmond
road
is
not
part
of
the
r1m.
It
was
part
of
the
tm,
so
it
wasn't
included
in
that.
But
the
property
immediately
to
the
south
is
an
r1mm
property
that
is
proposed
to
be
rezoned,
which
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
would
like
to
see
the
the
setback
that
we
created
for
the
r1m
preserved
in
in
this.
In
this
application
and
bruce
I
just
I
want
to
make
sure
I
know
the
applicant
is
listening
to
this
discussion.
M
I
will
endeavor
to
ensure
that
their
engineers
reach
out
to
you
to
talk
to
you
about
your
your
infrastructure,
on
your
property
and
then
yeah.
I
know
it's
important
and
the
final
piece
was
the
ncc
permissions.
So
what
we're
doing
today
is
zoning
the
property,
we're
not
giving
them
permission
to
build
the
property.
So
there
is
another
process
that
has
to
be
undertaken.
M
H
A
I
should
have
made
it
clear
off
the
outside
of
this
that
we
actually
have
two
two
items
in
the
agenda:
we're
combining
here
and
considering
it
once
it's
the
opa
and
zoning
bile
amendment,
but
there's
also
an
application.
Altar,
70
richmond
road
designated
under
part
four
of
the
ontario
heritage
act.
So
we're
considering
these
at
the
same
time.
So
we'll
move
now
to
questions
for
the
applicants
to
any
commitment
committee
members
have
a
question.
M
Thank
you
very
much,
so
I
guess
it's
it's
a
high-level
question
for
the
applicant.
When
you
initially
propose
this
building,
it
was
much
more
monolithic
and
the
heritage
treatment
was
also
a
little.
It
wasn't
optimal.
Let's
put
it
that
way.
The
community
and
I
suggested
look
you
know
in
order
you're
going
to
get
some
height
and
you're
going
to
get
density
at
this
site
in
order
to
help
it
breathe.
M
M
Why
were
you
unable
to
come
to
the
table
with
that
new
property
as
part
of
the
parcel
with
something
that
adhered
to?
What
the
community
was?
You
know
asking
for
which
was
a
significantly
better
transition
to
the
house
to
the
south
and
respecting
the
setback
to
island
park.
Drive
it
just
it
strikes
me.
It's
a
greenfield
parcel
at
that
point.
Why
not?
O
O
In
the
rare
yard,
in
that
seven
and
a
half
meter
setback,
so
I
believe
I
believe
we
did
provide
a
better
transition
and
resulting
in
the
nine
story
portion
of
the
building
and
really
the
upper
floors
of
the
building
all
being
well
over
10
meters.
From
that
south
property
line,
the
nine
story
portion
being
concentrated
solely
on
70,
richmond
road,
and
so
really
the
acquisition
of
376
was
really
utilized
entirely
for
stepping
down.
O
M
A
O
Yes,
thanks
for
the
question
chair
and
yeah,
the
udrp
reviewed
the
original
proposal,
which
was
the
70
on
the
70
richmond
parcel
and
their
main
concern,
I
would
say,
from
the
hearing,
was
a
vertical
glass
element
which
essentially
mimicked
the
garage
bays
of
the
heritage.
Building
straight
up
through
the
entire
the
whole
nine
story
portion
of
the
building
was
set
back
only
about
1.3
meters.
Through
the
revisions
we
we
actually
pulled
that
vertical
glass
element
back
about
five.
O
It's
about
5.2
meters
now
from
the
garage
bays
to
really
let
the
heritage
building
stand
out
and
stand
on
its
own,
so
other
changes
that
were
made
as
a
result
of
that
also
push
back.
The
new
portion
of
the
building
on
the
west
side
to
to
reveal
the
front
sort
of,
I
guess:
northwest
corner
of
the
heritage
building
as
you're
traveling
along
richmond
road.
A
S
So
that
was
essential
in
ensuring
that
it
remains
prominent,
and
it's
been
achieved,
like
I
said,
by
removing
the
massing
over
the
service
station
roof
that
was
initially
proposed,
and
that
was
nine
stories
and
also
reducing
the
masses
projection
on
stories.
Two
to
nine.
In
addition
to
that,
I
think
there
have
been
other.
S
A
M
B
M
M
M
S
Thank
you
for
the
question
through
you,
mr
chair.
Well,
we
have
well
it's
difficult
for
us
to
answer
without
seeing
any
conceptual
drawings,
but
what
I
could
say
is
that
the
traditional
main
street
designation
and
the
official
plan
allows
the
designation
to
extend
on
deeper
lots
up
to
200
meters,
away
from
the
traditional
main
street,
which
is
not
the
case
here.
This
we'd
be
looking
at
a
distance
around
45
meters.
M
Yeah
because
I
think,
with
the
inclusion
of
this
property
into
the
tm
zone
to
the
north,
it
kind
of
regularizes,
the
tm
line
and
at
the
tm
line
to
the
east
is
appropriately
located
in
line
with
the
rest
of
the
tm
zone
throughout.
I
don't
want
to
see
the
tm
start
to
jog
significantly
further
south
into
the
neighborhood.
M
So
you
know
I'm
I'm
I'm
sorry.
I
can't
show
folks
what
that
looks
like
on
the
map
here,
but
it
is
something
about
which
I
am
concerned,
I'm
not
opposing
this
building
on
the
basis
that
the
tm
has
moved
further
south.
I
know
many
residents
do,
though,
and
I
understand
their
discomfort,
but
I
don't
want
to
see
it
become
a
pro.
A
R
2022-P-I-E-P-S-0067
recommends
a
zoning
amendment,
an
official
plan
amendment
concerning
70
richmond,
road
and
376
island,
far
drive
to
permit
a
nine
story,
mixed-use
building
and
whereas
documents,
2a
and
2b
details
of
recommended
official
plan.
Amendment
current
and
new
incorrectly
identifies
the
subject
site
as
403
russian
road
and
389.
R
Roosevelt
avenue
on
pages
25
and
30
of
the
report,
therefore
be
it
resolved
that,
with
respect
to
report,
acs
2022
pie,
ps0067
the
address
403
richmond
road
at
389,
roosevelt
avenue,
as
contained
on
pages
25
and
30
of
the
report
under
the
headings,
one
purpose
not
to
be
confused
with
the
2016
justin
bieber,
album
of
the
same
name
respectively,
be
substituted
with
the
address.
70
richmond
road
and
376
island
park
drive
therefore
be
further
resolved
that
there
be
no
further
notice
pursuant
to
section
3417
of
the
planning
act.