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From YouTube: Planning Committee – February 9, 2016
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Planning Committee meeting – February 9, 2016 – Audio Stream
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B
All
right,
good
morning,
everyone,
this
is
a
public
meeting
to
consider
the
proposed
comprehensive
official
plan
and
zoning
bylaw
amendments
listed
as
items
1,
2
3
on
today's
agenda
for
the
items
listed
above.
Only
those
who
make
all
submissions
today
for
written
submissions
before
the
amendments
are
adopted
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
interior
municipal
board.
In
addition,
the
applicant
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
interior.
Municipal
Board
of
council
does
not
adopt
an
amendment
within
120
days
of
receipt
of
the
application
for
zoning
and
180
days
for
an
official
plan
amendment.
B
Conformation
of
minutes
from
January
26
any
changes
are
they
Carrie?
Thank
you
and
item
number.
One
is
zoning
bylaw
amendment
900
Marable
Road,
and
we
are
going
to
have
a
presentation
on
this,
so
we'll
hold
that
one
number
two
is
a
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
324
Cambridge
Street
north
in
Somerset
Ward.
We
do
have
plant
architect,
Inc
is
represented
by
Chris,
Palmer
and
Chris
is
here.
If
we
have
any
questions,
do
we
have
any
questions
on
this
one?
One
question
to
stop:
oh
okay,
so
is
is
Kimberly
Baldwin
here,
okay!
C
Regarding
the
parking,
madam
chair,
it's
189
units.
Now
it's
proposed
to
go
to
200
units
with
a
net
parking
allotment
of
73
spaces.
The
staff
report
is
actually
favorable
of
this,
but
I
just
want
to
confirm
our
residents.
They
don't
own.
Cars
is
not
sure
what
type
of
building
this
is,
whether
it's
an
och
building
or
not,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
going
into
the
future.
There
isn't
going
to
be
some
demand
that,
were
they
landlord
or
the
building's
not
going
to
be
able
to
absorb.
A
Through
the
chair,
yes,
that
is
correct.
The
proposed
Ian
accountant
is
going
from
proposed
to
go
to
from
189
to
200
units
and
the
existing
parking
today,
there's
78
parking
spaces
and
there
will
be
59
proposed,
and
the
department
also
requested
additional
bicycle
parking
to
help
offset
the
removal
of
some
vehicle
parking
and.
C
B
B
Main
street
70,
friendly
Crescent
and
74
hearts
mayor
drive
now
just
for
your
information.
This
is
actually
technically
because
we
haven't
changed
wards
in
Mito
Goulburn
board
when
it's
within
the
urban
boundary.
So
that's
why
we've
added
it
slow,
because
obviously
the
people
who
live
in
Statesville
believe
that,
and
rightly
so,
that
councillor
Qadri
is
their
counselor.
So
that's
why
you
see
that
that
way,
you
probably
didn't
even
realize
that
it
wouldn't
have
been
instead.
B
So
unless
you're
in
that
situation,
does
anyone
have
any
questions
we
do
have
in
the
audience
we
have
Erin
O'connor
who's,
a
regional
group
and
Cynthia
Jacque
and
Marie
there.
If
this
committee
is,
is
ready
to
carry
this
on
consent,
do
you
still
need
to
speak?
Where
are
you
ok?
Thank
you.
Does
anyone
have
any
questions
on
this,
or
can
we
carry
it
so
Kerry.
D
B
Very
much
and
thanks
for
coming
out
today
and
then
we
have
the
development
charge
agreement
for
servicing
within
the
village
of
magnetic,
and
this
has
gone
to
the
I-rack
already
and
it's
here
before
us,
because
development
charges
are
dealt
with
that
top
planning
committee.
Does
anyone
have
any
questions
on
this.
E
It's
just
a
technical
amendment,
madam
chair.
It's
in
front
of
you
I'll
dispense
reading
this
entire
long
sheet,
but
it's
to
amend
the
recommendation
in
order
to
clarify
the
agreement.
It
was
subject
to
the
approval
and
executed
by
the
acting
general
manager,
planning,
growth
management
and
the
city,
clerk
and
solicitor.
Thank.
B
You
and
Susan
Murphy
is
here
from
mento
Susan.
Do
you
need
to
speak
on
this
item?
Does
anyone
have
any
questions
of
staff
or
of
Minto?
No
is
this
item
is
the
motion
as
presented
by
vice
chair
tyranny?
Is
that
Carrie
and
is
this
item
carried
as
amended?
Thank
you
and
then
we
are
holding
number
five
for
a
discussion
on
the
update,
the
smart
growth
for
our
communities,
Act
2015,
and
then
we
have
the
semi
annual
performance
report
which
is
going
to
all
of
the
standing
committees.
B
The
piece
before
us
today
is,
as
it
relates
to
planning
committee.
Does
anyone
have
any
questions
so
we'll
hold
that
item?
Okay,
so
we'll
go
back
to
the
beginning
and
the
beginning
is
900
Melville
Road,
and
on
that
we
have
four
people
who
are
doing
the
presentation.
We
have
Christine
shalat,
who
is
with
lloyd,
phillips
and
associates?
B
A
A
B
D
D
Looking
at
the
location
map
of
the
property,
it's
the
site
of
the
Carlington
community
health
center,
which
provides
health
and
mental
health
services
to
the
community.
The
site
is
located
south
of
carling
avenue
on
Maribelle
Road
in
the
Carlington
community.
It
is
specifically
at
the
southwest
corner
of
Merrivale,
Road
and
cold
ray
a
Venusian
aerial
photo.
You
can
see
the
site
outlined
in
red.
It
is
2.
Acres
in
size,
has
a
narrow,
frontage,
long
Merivale
road
and
extends
approximately
200
meters
along
coal
tree
Avenue.
D
Looking
at
a
bird's-eye
view
of
the
site,
you
can
see
the
existing
building
on
the
property.
It's
formerly
a
school
which
is
built
in
1922
in
the
rear
of
the
building,
are
currently
55
parking
spaces
and
behind
that
is
a
community
garden
which
contains
approximately
150
garden
plots.
The
community
garden
has
been
on
the
property
for
over
20
years
and
is
supported
by
just
food,
which
is
a
nonprofit
organization.
D
D
This
is
to
the
south
again,
there's
a
place
of
worship
to
the
south
and
low-density
residential
and
commercial
uses
along
Miravalle.
This
is
an
image
of
the
residential
dwellings
to
then
on
the
north
side
of
coldly
Avenue,
which
is
opposite
the
site
and
across
from
Merivale
Road
is
residential
dwellings
along
Clair
Avenue.
D
D
This
is
a
plan
view
of
the
proposal
you
can
see
the
existing
building
and
the
proposed
addition
to
the
rear.
The
addition
is
proposed
to
be
directly
behind
the
existing
building
to
be
connected
by
a
single-story
link,
which
will
also
serve
as
the
new
location
for
the
main
entrance
to
the
building,
which
will
be
on
the
street
side
as
well
as
on
the
parking
lot
side
of
the
building.
D
D
D
The
community
health
and
Resource
Center
use
is
permitted.
Currently,
though,
provided
it
does
not
exceed
30%
of
the
gross
floor
area
of
the
building
in
which
it
is
located.
The
zoning
amendment
will
remove
the
existing
size
limit
to
allow
the
use
to
expand.
The
expansion
of
Health
Services
on
the
site
are
not
intended
to
serve.
The
seniors
exclusively
on
the
site
is
also
in
response
to
growing
demand
for
services
in
the
community.
D
The
project
is
located
within
the
traditional
Main
Street
designation
within
the
Official
Plan.
The
traditional
Main
Street
designation
permits
a
mix
of
land
uses
within
areas
that
are
easily
accessible
by
walking
cycling,
driving
or
public
transit
staff
has
reviewed
the
proposed
project
against
the
land,
use
policies
applicable
to
the
site,
as
well
as
we've
examined
the
structure
and
function
of
the
proposed
uses
on
the
site.
The
proposed
dwelling
units
are
compatible
with
the
surrounding
residential
area,
impose
undue
adverse
impacts
on
the
area.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
staff
for
the
presentation
and
your
work
on
this
file.
To
date.
It
certainly
is
a
very
interesting
project,
certainly
one
that
I
support.
The
hub
model
is
something
that
we
in
Holland
across
the
province
need
to
look
at
more
seriously.
I
think
when
you
can
link
a
medical
and
social
service
centre
with
seniors
or
other
demographics
within
the
community
who
tap
into
these
types
of
services
is
certainly
where
we
as
a
society
need
to
to
aim
towards,
and
certainly
something
I
support.
C
So
I
just
want
to
applaud
the
vision
to
amalgamate
this
type
of
seniors
center
or
seniors
residential
building
with
the
health
center.
I
think
that
is
to
be
applauded
than
something
I
strongly
support.
So
I
certainly
support
the
request
to
rezone
this
piece
of
land
and
property
and
and
support
the
the
project
as
it
goes
forward.
But
as
I
noted
in
the
staff
report,
there
have
been
a
few
concerns
raised
by
the
community
that
I
just
want
to
raise
today.
C
It
adds
to
the
diversity
and
the
value
of
this
community
and
we've
had
a
senior's
building
in
the
past
converted
for
other
purposes
and
the
communities
just
ask
that
if
this
is
going
to
be
marketed
and
and
zoned
to
permit
residential
and
if
the
hope
is
to
have
seniors
in
there
that
there
be
a
long-term
vision
for
seniors
and
that's
been
emphasized
in
what's
been
told
today.
So
I
applaud
the
35
year
goal.
Our
plan
for
that
and
the
other
major
concern
is
with
respect
to
the
community
garden.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
There's,
a
funding
proposal,
that's
being
submitted.
There's
a
garden
committee.
That's
been
established
and
they're
working
with
the
owner
of
the
property,
so
it's
the
Carlington
community
health
center.
So
together
they're
they,
the
garden
committee
and
Carlington
community
health
center,
are
putting
together
a
funding
proposal
which
is
going
to
be
submitted
to
the
city
as
well
as
just
food,
which
is
the
non
nonprofit
organization.
D
C
Is
have
to
go
through
a
regular
application
process,
but
other
community
groups
who
are
interested
in
starting
their
own
community
garden
or
is
there
again
see
that
these
gardeners
will
have
a
space
somewhere
in
the
local
area
and
we're
just
going
through
the
the
various
steps
to
find
an
adequate
accessible
local
location.
Now
correct.
D
So
they're
going
through
the
process
of
trying
to
find
a
replacement
site,
they
believe
they
found
a
site
and
they
are
contemplating
the
you
know
if
there's
any
constraints
to
that
site,
so
right
now
they're
if
they
believe
they've
chosen
the
right
site,
but
it's
to
be
determined
whether
that
will
be
confirmed.
Okay.
C
D
C
F
C
Right:
okay,
very
good,
okay
and
just
the
last
thing
about
the
gardens.
Are
there
any
timelines
that
we're
aiming
for?
You
talked
about
a
deadline
within
the
winter,
but
are
we
hoping
to
have
a
garden
ready
this
calendar
year
or
will
the
gardener's
be
permitted
to
continue
the
garden
on-site
in
2016
through
the
season
I've
seen
communication
to
the
governor's
when
it
says
the
gardens
closed,
but
the
very
next
sentence
says:
if
you
wish
to
garden
in
2016,
you
take
that
risk
B's,
we're
not
exactly
sure
when
construction
will
start.
B
You
and
20
years
ago,
when
they
they
started
the
allowing
on
this
land,
the
the
gardens.
You
know
we
find
from
with
planning
applications
that
people
are
get
used
to
using
somebody
else's
land
to
do
stuff.
I
think
do
you
have
any
concept
of
what
rules
might
have
been
at
play
or
if
indeed,
there
were
any
back
in
those
days
at
all
versus
what
there
would
be
today.
There
would
have
to
be
some
agreement
that
okay,
we
have
a
new
site
for
you.
However,
you
must
sign
recognize
that
this
is
not
necessarily
permanent.
D
B
B
Well,
come
forward
and
we'll
see
if
there's
any
questions
and
who
are
you
coming
forward
with
Oh
whole
bunch
of
people?
Please
everybody
it's
coming
together
and
also
in
staff
and
you're,
not
even
in
those
for
your
1/5,
so
Baron
at
Meijer,
hopper
who's
with
Ottawa
community
housing,
Cameron,
McCloud,
Carlington,
community
health
center,
okay,
so
which
one
and
anthony
leaning
so
who
is
not
here.
A
B
You
are
here
for
questions
and
then
some
of
you're
here
for
presentations,
okay,
so
normally
I,
wouldn't
have
the
whole
crew.
You
know
Tula
gang
up
here
so
but
I
think
it's
an
opportunity
to
ask
questions
and
anybody
that
you
need
to
answer
it
will
be
here.
Are
you
making
a
presentation
again
you're
here
for
questions
right,
you're
here
for
questions?
Yes,.
A
G
B
So
we
have
everyone
that
we
need
to
have
four
before
us
here.
I
personally
think
it's
a
great
opportunity
and
I
actually
went
in
1955
when
Kingston
Avenue
was
a
brand
new
Street,
and
that
was
before
I
started
school
at
w/e
gallery
and
I
lived
on
Kingston
Avenue
and
the
IGA
was
there
I
mean
it
was
I,
know
that
community
really
really
well
and
I
think
that
this
is
exciting.
What's
happening,
it's
a
Renaissance.
If
you
will
the
start
of
a
renaissance
with
some
other
partners
that
are
also
interested
yeah,
it
counts.
Your
paper.
G
Thank
you.
No
just
share
shareholders
excitement
Atlas.
This
is
a
fantastic
opportunity.
Congratulations
for
pulling
it
together!
I'm
struck
in
the
report.
The
comment
that
the
center
is
at:
that's
the
Carlington
community
health
centers
at
capacity.
What
is
your
ability
to
further
expand?
The
services
jacket
of
Somerset
y
West,
Community
Health
Center
has
done
something
which
I
think
is
also
extremely
excited
and
having
incorporated
the
Parkdale
food
center
into
into
that
hub
on
Roosevelt
Avenue.
G
Do
you
have
some
spare
capacity
to
start
looking
it's
particularly
in
light
of
the
fact
that
the
community
garden
is
gonna,
have
to
be
relocated
somewhere
that
food
security
piece
of
sustainable
cities
is
diminished
somewhat
in
in
much
in
what
you're
doing
I
would
love
to
see.
You
know
the
food
bank
for
oil
be
able
to
move
in
or
similar
types
of
social
services.
Are
you
gonna
be
at
capacity
the
moment
you
expand.
H
We're
going
to
be
getting
close,
madam
chair,
we
currently,
we
are
actually
turning
program's
away
just
due
to
lack
of
space
which
breaks
our
heart,
knowing
what
we
are
facing
in
terms
of
relocating
our
health
services.
Our
our
new
health
proposed
health
services
on
the
main
floor
will
accommodate
only
our
primary
care
and
our
allied
health
services
and,
if
I
have
my
way,
we'll
actually
actually
have
dental
care
in
there,
too
yeah
in
the
expansion
we're
still
looking.
We
have
some
limitations
just
because
of
the
building
design
with
design
in
1922.
H
We
have
some
limitations
in
terms
of
what
we
can
put
into
the
new
building
in
terms
of
our
own
staff,
space
and
other
services.
We're
gonna
optimize
that
space
and
work
with
our
architect,
and
we
do
envision
inviting
other
services
in,
but
we
can't
do
it
while
compromising
our
current
services.
So
we
do
have
a
small
baby
cupboard
right
now.
It
would
be
great
to
expand
that
to
allow
for
more
food
security
offerings,
but
there's
also
partnerships
through
one
leverage
up
in
Coldwell,
Family,
Center
and
those
and
down
it.
H
H
Of
the
limitations
will
be
what
funny
we
have
available
to
do
so.
Ideally,
we'd
love
to
have
someone
down
there,
because
we
really
see
that
Scott
Hill
van
Lang
areas
as
a
needy
area
and
with
lots
of
opportunity.
If
that
opportunity
does
raise
itself
absolutely
we're
not
sure
what
agreement
will
be
in
place
with
the
new
field
house,
in
terms
of
who
can
actually
live
there.
But
once
that's
worked
out,
if
we
see
opportunities
will
be
all.
G
The
Carlington
is
offering
to
try
to
again
to
echo
councillor
brockington
hub
a
lot
of
these
services
together,
because
the
synergies
that
we're
seeing
coming
out
of
that
colocation
of
Parkdale
food
with
Somerset
West
have
been
absolutely
fantastic
in
a
model
that
I
hope
you'll
look
at
subject
to
having
the
resources
necessary.
Obviously,
congratulations
again.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
C
You
just
a
question
for
mr.
Gale
regarding
the
B
units
themselves.
The
42
units,
because
of
the
fact
that
this
would
be
exclusively
for
seniors
seniors,
will
have
varying
mobility
and
physical
challenges.
Could
you
just
describe
the
accessibility
component
of
units?
How
will
those
units
be
built
to
correspond
to
the
needs,
the
physical
challenges
of
those
who
are
going
to
live
there.
I
Absolutely
one
of
the
first
settlement
that
was
important
for
our
community
housing
was
to
serve
the
current
and
future
needs
of
our
citizens
and
agents.
Citizens
in
terms
of
accessibility,
there's
two
elements
that
are
important
to
recognize.
There
is
visit,
visit
ability,
factor
and
the
accessibility
factor,
so
the
entire
building
will
offer
visit
ability
what
it
means.
It
means
that
people
will
be
able
to
go
through
hallways
and
many
areas
and
also
access
the
units
with
a
world
share
in
terms
of
accessibility.
I
So
this
is
where
it's
specifically
designed
type
of
units
that
will
accommodate
someone
living
on
a
wheelchair
and
those
type
of
units,
and
we
will
have
12
actually
part
of
the
design
are
really
configured
and
designed
to
ensure
that
wheelchair
will
have
full
accessibility
in
the
washroom
in
the
control
cabinet
will
be
also
adjusted
in
terms
of
height
and
as
well.
You
have
other
elements
like
you
know:
charging
stations
for
the
one
that
they
are
electrical
worldshare
and
that
will
be
provided.
I
I
So
it's
about
2,500
right
now
and
42
is
already
a
good
start,
but
obviously
you
know
there's
more
to
come,
and
this
is
also
a
landmark
a
landmark
for
Ottawa
and
thank
you
for
the
leadership
of
everyone
who
participated
in
this
fire
because
again,
this
is
innovative,
where
we
are
actually
receiving
interest
from
other
municipalities,
other
groups
here
in
Ottawa,
because
it
can
be
done
elsewhere
in
Ottawa
and
it
can
be
also
expanded
across
the
province.
So
again,
thank
you
for
the
leadership
and
the
great
work
of
the
team
we'll
work
on
this
one.
E
Oh,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
Just
real
quick,
you
see
it
a
real
cams
gonna
be
doing
some
work
up.
The
road
at
Westgate,
they're,
gonna,
put
some
very
large
towers
and
I
think
that's
gonna
be
great
within
the
community.
Do
you
see
this
impacting
this
project
at
all?
Is
this
going
to
do
something
from
a
community
perspective.
I
And
actually
they
are
enables
to
ensure
that
we
have
mixed
communities
and
that
we
have
people
coming
from
different
areas
of
the
community
from
low
income,
middle
income
and
a
different
needs
as
well.
Medical
help
needs,
but
also
to
ensure
that
you
have
access
to
services.
Real.
Can
development
actually
will
provide
an
extender
services
and
the
other
aspect?
The
Carrington
Health
will
actually
attract.
Also
the
people
from
you
can
to
come
over,
so
we
ensure
better
blend
in
the
community
as
well
and.
E
B
B
B
John's
going
to
do
a
small
presentation
on
the
very
little
bit
that
we
know
at
this
point
as
I
think.
Most
of
you
know
at
the
end
of
March
or
the
third
week
of
March,
there's
going
to
be
further
information
available
through
a
session,
that's
being
planned
in
Kingston
I've
asked
if
that's
one
that
would
be
open
to
elected
officials
if
they
were
interested
in
it's
not
it's
for
staff.
Only
so
we'll
be
looking
for
yet
another
report
after
that
from
I.
Think.
Are
you
going
to
that
meeting?
John.
J
J
There
are
only
four
provisions
in
the
planning:
act
are
in
full
force
and
a
factor
and
those
provisions
relate
to
obligations
on
the
part
of
the
province.
So,
for
example,
previously
the
province
was
required
to
update
the
provincial
policy
statement
every
five
years.
That's
now
extended
to
ten
years.
J
All
the
changes
to
development
charges
are
in
effect,
they
came
into
effect
when
the
Act
was
approved
in
early
December,
and
the
remaining
provisions
in
the
Planning
Act
were
awaiting
for
proclamation
from
by
the
left-handed
governor
and
we're
also
waiting
for
regulations
to
be
developed
by
the
province
to
give
some
clarity
around
what
some
of
those
changes
were.
Planning
Act
are
really
all
about
on
what
the
provinces
expectations
are
for.
Moving
forward
with
implementation,
so
the
next
couple
of
slides
are
key.
J
Changes
were
planning
out
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
all
of
these,
but
maybe
just
highlighting
a
few
of
them.
So
whether
one
of
the
things
was
that
there's
no
longer
an
ability
to
appeal
an
entire
new
Official
Plan,
this
only
applies
to
a
new
comprehensive
plan,
urban
design,
I
think
after
many
years,
many
municipalities
seeing
this
as
an
important
element
of
planning,
is
now
identified
as
an
area
of
provincial
interest.
J
In
terms
of
our
official
plan
since
amalgamation,
and
then
there's
also
an
ability
to
extend
time
periods
for
decisions
with
respect
to
official
plan
and
them
at
applications
and
those
are
through
negotiations
with
the
applicant,
those
changes
don't
really
require
us
to
do
a
lot
of
work
to
give
effect
to
it,
but
again
we're
waiting
for
some
clarity
through
the
regulation,
some
of
the
key
ones.
That,
in
fact,
are
going
to
have
some
impact
on
how
we
do
business
is
documenting
of
reasons
for
decisions.
J
So
this
speaks
to
having
to
account
for
how
oil
and
representations
to
committee
affected
or
influenced
the
decision
of
planning
committee
and
council
planning.
Advisory
Committee
is
probably
the
most
significant
thing.
That's
been
introduced
through
the
legislation,
we're
not
really
sure
exactly
what
the
expectations
from
the
province
are
on.
That
will
help
you
get
more
information,
as
we
have
further
discussions
and
again
that
should
be
clarified
through
regulations,
but
this
is
basically
an
advisory
committee
that
is
required
to
have
one
member
of
the
public
also
be
part
of
that
committee.
J
Some
changes
to
the
casualty
of
parkland
and
and
then
the
other
key
one,
is
the
ability
for
council
to
actually
adopt
additional
criteria
that
the
committee
of
adjustment
needs
to
give
consideration
to
with
respect
to
minor
variance
applications,
and
those
would
be
in
addition
to
the
four
tests
that
are
now
set.
I've
been
the
plan
acts
so
there's
an
ability
for
council
to
actually
define
some
additional
parameters
which
state
which
council
might
feel
important
for
minor
various
applications.
J
K
John
I'm
going
to
identify
five
key
changes
to
the
development
charges
Act
and
bring
those
to
your
attention.
These
are
changes
that,
as
John
mentioned,
are
already
in
effect,
and
the
first
one
is
the
removal
of
the
mandatory
ten
percent
capital
cost
reduction
for
transit,
and
previously
municipalities
were
required
to
apply
a
ten
percent
or
in
ottawa's
case
a
thirty
five
point:
1
million
mandatory
reduction
after
all,
the
other
deductions
in
the
calculation
process,
were
made
to
determine
the
total
of
eligible
growth
related
capital
costs.
So
that's
a
that's
a
key
provision.
K
The
next
one
is
the
ability
to
use
a
ten-year
planned
level
of
service
for
transit
versus
that
tenure,
historical
level
of
service.
So
this
change
means
we're
looking
ahead
as
opposed
to
looking
behind,
and
this
will
build
on
ridership
forecasts
and
capacity
for
all
modes
of
transit,
as
well
as
excess
capacity
in
the
system.
The
city
also
has
to
determine
whether
a
new
ridership
is
coming
from
existing
or
planned
development,
and
this
detailed
analysis
will
come
through
the
master
planning
process.
K
The
next
item
is
a
new
requirement
to
establish
asset
management
plans,
so
this
means
the
development
charge.
Background
study
must
contain
an
asset
management
plan
for
every
type
of
asset
that
you
are
going
to
include
in
your
development
charges
that
the
capital
costs
must
a
sorry
for
all
the
assets
where
capital
costs
will
be
included
in
the
development
charge
bylaw,
and
we
have
to
demonstrate
that
all
of
those
assets
are
financially
sustainable
over
the
full
lifecycle.
K
Right
now.
Only
transit
services
has
a
prescribed
asset
management
plan
in
regulations,
but
it's
expected
that
all
other
services
will,
along
with
a
guide
for
a
municipal
asset
management
plan
that
was
established
by
the
province
in
2012,
fixed
timing
for
payment
of
development
charges.
So
in
the
case
where
a
building
permit
is
issued-
and
there
may
be
a
number
of
different
phases-
the
development
charges
will
be
collected
at
the
first
issuance
of
the
building
permit
and
that's
intended
to
provide
some
certainty
to
the
industry
in
terms
of
the
cost
of
their
development
charges.
B
B
J
Again,
this
is
an
area
that
were
waiting
for
clarity
on
the
regulations,
but,
as
we
understand
it
at
this
point
in
time,
the
modifications
are
used
to
be
that
the
alternate
requirement
where
cash
to
move
the
change
basically
permits
one
hectare
of
park
land
for
every
500
Hector's.
Instead
of
the
current
one
actor
of
land
for
every
300
actors.
Okay,
there
is
clearly
an
implication
in
terms
of
the
amount
that
would
be
dedicated
for
parklands
with
respect
to
cash
in
lieu.
J
It
applies
mostly
in
the
urban
area,
not
so
much
in
the
suburban
area
and
in
the
urban
area.
You
would
do
have
the
cap
of
10%
that's
established,
so
we
don't
anticipate.
There
should
be
significant
change
in
the
urban
area,
but
again
by
putting
out
these
directions
and
the
changes
of
the
legislation
more
often
than
not.
You
need
that
additional
clarity,
so
we're
gonna
be
seeking
some
additional
clarity
from
the
province
on
some
of
these
items.
So.
G
G
The
two-year
moratorium
on
variances
following
a
site-specific
rezoning
I.
Does
that
mean
what
I
think
that
means
that,
once
you
have
a
site-specific
rezoning,
you
know
the
the
the
owner
cannot
come
forward
for
a
period
of
two
years
to
the
committee
of
adjustment,
with
a
request
for
variances.
That's.
J
Correct
not
as
of
right
council,
would
have
to
give
approval
if
an
owner
is
seeking
them
an
event
or
seeking
a
further
modification
after
minor
variance
has
been
approved.
The
same
thing
applies
if
there's
a
site-specific
or
if
there's
a
citywide,
comprehensive
zoning,
bylaw
established
there's
a
moratorium
for
two
years
for
site-specific
amendments.
Unless
council
authorizes
the
same
thing
applies
to
comprehensive
official
plans,
there's
a
two-year
moratorium
unless
council
authorizes.
J
J
Depending
on
what
the
focus
of
the
changes
it
could
be:
internal
consultation
with
other
departments
that
might
be
involved,
consultation
with
industry
representatives
or
the
broader
community,
but
we're
gonna
have
to
go
through
a
process
of
mapping
nado
to
understand
how
we're
going
to
move
forward
and
again,
a
lot
of
this
really
ties
into
a
better
understanding
what
the
regulations
are
provided
to
us.
So.
G
That's
an
area
where
I
would
be
seeking
sort
of
a
fairly
high
level
of
consultation
with
with
community
and
with
residents
as
well
the
overall
the
consultation
plan.
So
when
might
when
do
you
expect
to
see
regulations?
And
then,
when
you
see
you
our
view
on
what
we
should
be
consulting
on
and
what
that
consultation
will
look
like,
we.
J
Have
not
to
then
give
an
indication
of
timing,
I'm,
anticipating
probably
the
latter
part
of
the
spring
I'm
sure
that
we'll
have
additional
information
or
once
we
attend
the
ministry
sort
of
educational
program
that
they
have
in
Kingston.
That
counsel
harder
spoke
to
in
March
and
we'll
get
a
better
sense
from
a
timing.
Point
of
view
on
that.
But
at
this
point,
I'm
expecting
probably
made
you
in
territory.
Okay,.
J
G
A
couple
of
a
couple
of
questions,
the
new
minor
variants
criteria-
that's
something
I
think
you
know,
councillors
respond,
McKenney
and
I
wrote
to
the
to
the
province
and
I,
don't
recall
seeing
this
as
part
of
the
original
discussion,
it
looks
interesting
I
mean
to
go
beyond
the
four-part
test.
That's
the
sort
of
criteria
that
might
there
be-
and
maybe
this
is
a
question
I'd
like
to
hear
from
mr.
mersey
on
as
well.
G
What
could
those
additional
criteria
will
be?
My
first
thought
upon
seeing
that
is:
could
we
add
consideration
of
trees,
for
example,
to
the
to
the
Committee
of
adjustments
criteria
and
then,
whatever
criteria
we
developed
be
appealable
to
the
entire
municipal
board
by
those
who
would
seek
other
criteria.
M
Madam
chair,
this
item
undoubtedly
relates
to
what
we
call
the
quantity
question.
It's
been
discussed
for
a
couple
years
in
the
in
planning
world
and
and
with
MPs
on
this
matter,
and
that
is
that
some
municipalities
have
asked
for
quite
a
while
to
go
beyond
the
current
for
test
that
a
committee
of
adjustment
member
must
have
regard
for
when
they
render
a
decision
and
those
four
tests
are
meets.
The
intent
of
the
Official
Plan
meets
the
intent
of
the
zoning
it's
desirable
and
it's
minor
in
their
opinion.
M
Madam
chair
haven't
talked
to
a
number
of
colleagues
in
the
field
on
this
particular
matter.
I
think
the
general
feeling
is
that
it
takes
away.
It
potentially
could
take
away
from
the
judgment
component
to
a
committee
of
adjustment
members
role,
and
so
some
concerns
have
been
raised
about
the
quantity
issue
and
that's
why
it
has
never
appeared
in
the
planning
act
before
so.
Should
this
council
or
a
council
of
another
municipality
want
to
establish
as
a
criteria
such
a
quantity
measure,
he
would
be
a.
G
M
G
G
You
and
I
only
have
one
other
question,
madam
chair
for
me
and
again
I.
Think
I
want
to
hear
from
mr.
Muzi
on
this.
The
planning
advisory
committee
is
obviously
really
intriguing,
I,
don't
know
exactly
what
that
looks
like
mr.
Muzi
has
worked
in
Toronto
a
number
of
years
where
they've
had
planning
advisory
committees.
What's
what's
been
the
Toronto
experience
of
that.
M
Madam
chair,
at
this
time
there
are
very
few
planning
advisory
committees
in
any
news
palace
in
this
province.
There's
a
couple,
but
there's
not
many.
Currently
there
is
a
planning
advisory
committee
at
the
City
of
Toronto,
but
ironically
enough,
it
doesn't
do
what
I
think
this
piece
of
legislation.
Intents,
the
planning
advisory
committee
currently
in
Toronto,
is
a
committee
of
30
people
from
the
public
that
advise
the
chief
planner
or
the
equivalent
of
myself
on
specific
or
important
planning
matters.
It's
not
a
subcommittee
of
counsel,
however.
M
In
the
past
years
ago
the
City
of
Toronto
did
have
a
planning
advisor
committee
that
reported
to
its
its.
What
was
then
called
land-use
committee,
and
that
committee
was
similar
to
our
built
heritage
subcommittee
and
that
it
was
chaired,
and
the
vice-chair
was
a
citizen
rep,
but
there
was
council
representation
on
it
and
they
met
very
regularly
in
sync,
with
the
agenda
of
the
planning
committee
to
advise
on
specific
types
of
application,
that
criteria
or
threshold
was
set
fairly
high.
B
J
B
B
G
B
But
I
don't
think
it's
unless
I'm
totally
wrong.
I
would
be
very
doubtful
that
this
would
be
a
Q&A.
What
do
you
think
kind
of
thing?
I
think
that
there
probably
will
be
that
next
step,
but
it
wouldn't
be
that
this
meeting,
because
if
it
was,
we
would
likely
be
able
to
participate
and
they
and
the
public
as
well.
J
I'm
sure
I
mean
the
the
notice
that
was
sent
out
by
the
ministry
was
an
educational
series
for
planners
in
Eastern
Ontario,
three
items
that
were
on
the
agenda
for
discussion
bill
73.
There
was
an
issue
with
respect
to
a
rule
and
I
forget
there
was
one
other
issue,
but
it
is
basically
an
educational
type
of
a
series
to
keep
the
profession
or
the
professional
planners
informed
of
things
that
I
happen
so
clearly,
I'm
sure
there's
opportunity
for
some
QA,
but
that's
not
the
focus
of
it.
So.
B
What
I'm
going
to
suggest
is,
after
that
meeting
with
whatever
you
learn
and
we
have
an
update
at
Planning
Committee
in
April.
I.
Think
that
one
thing
I'd
like
to
know
is:
does
the
province
intend
to
have
any
kind
of
public
outreach
on
it,
post
decision-making
for
clear
understanding,
and
if
not,
that
we
will
plan
to
have
that
offer
that
session
ourself?
B
G
B
N
You,
chair
I'm,
just
two
questions:
one
relating
to
the
official
plan
portion
of
bill
C
73.
It
wasn't
clear
to
me
what
the
difference
is
between
there
was
I
guess,
a
distinction
made
between
a
new
official
plan
and
an
amended
official
plan
and
I
guess
it
just
raised
the
question
in
my
mind,
at
what
point
is
an
amended
official
plan,
a
new
official
plan.
So
I
don't
know
if
you
understand
the
difference
at
this
stage
between
those
two,
this
madam
chair
and
mr.
J
Mark
might
want
to
offer
his
thoughts
as
well,
but
a
new
official
plan
is
basically
developing
a
brand
new
official
plan
for
the
municipality.
So
it's
not
relying
on
a
current
official
plan
and
looking
at
introducing
changes
or
modifications.
So
the
processes
that
we've
gone
through
in
the
past,
with
amendment
76
and
with
OPA
150,
they
were
amendments
to
an
official
plan.
J
So
if,
if
council
at
some
point
in
time
decided
it
was
appropriate
to
move
forward
with
a
brand
new
official
plan,
and
that
would
also
then
also
need
to
do
away
with
all
the
existing
secondary
plans
that
have
been
approved,
then
you're
into
the
arena
of
following
under
the
provisions
of
the
Act
with
respect
to
a
new
official
plan,
and
you
don't
have
to
do
that
every
10
years,
if
you're
doing
update
some
amendments,
it's
every
five
years,
the
continuation
of
the
climbing
process
that
we're
into
right
now.
So
there's
nothing
changes
for
us.
J
N
Okay,
thank
you,
and
the
second
question
just
is
about
this
definition
of
the
planning.
Advisory
Committee,
don't
know
who
I'm
asking
this
question
to,
but
by
one
read
of
the
definition
of
a
planning,
Advisory
Committee
up
until
bill
73.
Did
this
committee
satisfy
the
definition
of
a
planning,
Advisory
Committee?
No,
madam.
L
Madam
chair,
until
bill
73
I'd
say
there,
the
planning
advice
committee
is
completely
undefined,
so
I
I
would
still
say
this
was
not
a
planet
advise
committee.
This
is
a
standing
committee
of
Council
that
provides
recommendation
to
Council
on
all
planning
applications
within
the
urban
area
and
I
would
not
have
seen
it
as
a
planning
advisory
committee
within
the
meaning
of
the
new
section
8
of
the
Act
okay.
F
You
very
much
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
for
the
presentation
this
morning.
Just
question
regarding
one
of
your
slides,
well,
I
think
it's.
The
five
points
that
were
being
discussed
includes
a
inclusion
of
waste
diversion
as
an
eligible
service,
and
you
mentioned
that
during
the
presentation
that
does
not
include
incineration
or
other
diversion
techniques.
Am
I
correct
nut
or
it
would
not
include
those
so.
K
F
You
for
that
now
coming
back
to
diversion
in
terms
of
those
four
items
that
you
mentioned
and
as
a
stream
would
collection
be
part
of
that
charge.
If,
let's
say
due
to
technology,
there
was
a
better
technical,
better
technology
to
collect
waste
from
residents
or
from
commercial
areas.
Would
that
include
be
included
in
this
waste
and
diversion.
F
I'm
sure,
just
for
clarification
with
the
committee,
the
reason
I'm
asking
that
question
is
back
in
2009.
I
did
put
a
motion
forward
in
committee
about
something
called
an
vac
collection
system,
so
I'm
just
wondering
if
that
kind
of
new
system
would
be
included
in
this
new
process
of
development
charges.
O
So
when
you
say
technology,
it's
it's,
there
is
a
criteria
place
that
says
that
if
it's
computer
related
or
whatever
it
is
ineligible,
it
still
is
an
ineligible
service
for
the
collection
of
development
charges,
but
I've
sent
an
email
to
Dixon
Weir
and
to
his
staff
to
inform
them
of
the
changes
and
that
I
guess
when
they,
when
we
start
preparing
the
city,
starts
preparing
the
level
of
service.
This
will
have
to
be
looked
at
in
conjunction
with
the
consultant
and
I'm
sure.
O
There's
going
to
be
other
municipalities
looking
at
it
at
that
time
and
to
see
what
exactly
the
the
what
costs,
but
it's
gonna,
have
to
be
growth.
Related
capital
costs
certainly
is
the
the
basic
criteria
with
development
charge,
and
then
there
is
a
definition,
a
pre-existing
definition
in
the
act
that
outlines
what
that
would
mean,
and
that
would
be
able
to
whether
that'll
be
eligible
for
DC
funding
or
not
so.
F
Mister
Baker,
thank
you
for
that
clarification,
but
it's
just
a
question.
Coming
back,
you
mentioned
about
growth.
Related
charges
am
I
correct,
so
in
terms
of
new,
let's
say
greenfield
development,
where
a
new
service
like
an
vac
systems,
could
be
incorporated
into
that
new
neighborhood.
A
new
development.
Would
that
not
be
part
of
considered
as
growth
development
in
terms
of
garbage
collection
and.
O
To
be
honest,
yeah
I
think
they'll
have
to
be
looked
at
at
the
time
and
to
make
sure
that
it
is
I
know,
for
example,
on
the
on
the
library
side
of
things
were.
Certainly,
we've
changed
our
and
included
certain
types
of
Technology
in
the
development
charges
to
be
eligible
to
develop
developer
charge
funding.
So
certainly
there
there
are
instances
where
there
is
things
evolve
over
time
and
costs
that
were
initially
thought
to
be
ineligible
are
now
deemed
to
be
able
to
use
developer
charges
to
fund
them.
O
P
Thanks,
madam
chair
I'm,
just
I'm
reading
the
letter
relating
to
build
73
that
which
we
received
and
in
the
section
in
the
same
section
where
it
talks
about
removing
the
mandatory
ten
percent
discount
required
for
levying
a
charge
for
transit
services.
It
has
a
line
saying
creating
an
authority
to
identify
services
for
which
a
planned
service
level
calculation
would
replace
the
historic
10-year
average
service
level.
So
that
to
me
he
reads
as
they
would
allow
an
authority
to
review
so
that
we
can
do
for
all
other
services
as
they're
permitting
for
transit.
O
No,
as
part
of
the
changes,
they've
only
include
they've
only
moved
one
service
and
that
would
be
transit
into
that
category.
For
the
time
being.
What
the
problems
has
done
is
they've
moved
the
that
section
used
to
be
embedded
in
the
development
charges,
Act
itself
and
now
they've
moved
that
section
into
the
regulations,
but
the
only
service
that
they've
deemed
to
be
forward-looking
or
our
new
level
of
service
calculation
is
transit,
but
in
the
future,
they've
left
it
open
to
say
that
they
may
say:
okay
parks
or
recreation
or
leather.
P
O
O
It's
only
been
transit,
that's
the
only
service,
the
three
things
that,
as
Peggy's
pointed
out
that
the
problems
is
allowed.
This
is
for
looking
for
transit
plan
level
service,
that's
the
only
service,
a
10%,
the
removal,
timbers
and
statutory
reduction
and
the
waste
management
yeah.
Those
at
waste
diversion
I
should
say
yes,
I
understand.
H
L
Sure
I
agree
with
what
mr.
Baker
has
said.
The
authority
has
been
created.
The
minister
could
extend
a
similar
provision
to
transit
for
other
services
I'm,
not
aware
of
any
intent
on
the
part
of
the
minister
to
do
so
and
I.
Don't
believe
that
mr.
Baker
is
aware
of
any
intent
on
the
minister
to
do
so.
But
the
minister
does
not
that
power.
P
B
O
Bit
easier-
and
that's
Peggy
pointed
out
during
the
presentation,
so
when
they
change
the
problems,
changes
all
the
charges
act
in
1997
they
introduced
through
the
Act.
They
said
that
there's
only
certain
services
that
you
could
that
municipality
collect,
100
percent
development,
charges
for
and
transit
was
excluded
from
that
list,
along
with
all
soft
other
soft
services
like
recreation
parks,
childcare,
affordable
housing.
O
So
when
you
did
your
calculation
process,
when
you
came
to
when
you
did
all
the
deductions,
when
you
came
to
the
end,
you
had
to
say:
okay,
it
was
in
our
case
it
was
480
million,
but
was
growth
related?
We
had
to
take
another
10%
off
of
that,
so
that
was
the
this
the
so
the
basically.
The
problems
was
telling
municipalities
that
no
matter
how
you
calculated
10
percent
that
have
to
do
with
our
contribution.
B
J
B
N
Thank
You,
chair
and
I
recognize
that
this
is
a
council
wide
agenda
item
and
we're
only
dealing
at
this
meeting
with
the
planning
related
portions.
But
my
question
is
simply
how
we,
as
members
of
planning
committee,
will
have
access
to
the
type
of
data
which
is
currently
presented
in
the
semi-annual
report,
which
I
happen
to
find
very
useful
to
see
every
six
months.
But
if
we're
not
going
to
get
the
report,
I
guess
my
question
to
staff
is:
is
there
some
way
that
we
could
be
directed
to
it?
Or
can
there
be?
N
N
Madam
chair,
the
currently
the
three
reports
that
come
to
planning
committee
will
continue
to
come
to
planning
committee
which,
to
summarize
the
Building
Code
act
and
report
out
on
the
annual
program
work
program
within
PGM
I
would
have
to
work
work
with
mr.
Missy
with
respect
to
what
options
could
be
pursued
to
respond
to
the
the
councillors
inquiry.
I.
B
Mean
if
you
think
about
the
CIL,
for
example,
we
are
able
to
ask
a
question,
that's
tabulated
and
they
can
access
it
fairly
quickly.
So
I
would
imagine
it's
not
something
that
somebody
just
compiles
like
that.
It's
ongoing,
and
so
we
should
be
able
to
tap
into.
We
should
have
the
technology
to
tap
into
that
information.
Correct.
N
B
F
B
For
plant
of
the
planning
piece
of
the
report,
any
notice
of
motion-
none
any
other
business
well
you'll,
be
happy
to
know
that
the
next
meeting
is
February,
23rd
and,
and
we
will
maybe
not
have
to
order
pizza,
but
we'll
be
here
longer
than
we
are
today.
Maybe
I'll
make
a
cake
again:
okay,
anything
else,
we're
adjourned.
Thank
you
very
much
George.
Thank
you.