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Planning Committee meeting – January 20, 2015 – Audio Stream
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B
D
D
And
because
this
is
the
first
meeting
of
our
planning
committee
for
this
term,
I'm
going
to
speak
a
little
bit,
but
first
of
all,
I
wanted
to
do
some
housekeeping
just
for
the
future.
So
you
know
what
to
expect.
So.
This
is
for
people
who
tend
to
come
here,
often
as
delegations,
people
who
are
within
the
media,
people
that
are
elected
people
that
are
staff
everyone.
D
D
If
we
have
a
large
agenda
or
even
an
agenda
that
had,
we
expect
a
lot
of
delegations,
we
will
be
holding
that
in
Andy,
Hayden
Hall
in
Council
Chambers,
it's
easier,
I
think
certainly
for
us,
but
it's
certainly
easier
for
the
delegations
that
come
the
development
community.
That
comes
the
media
that
comes
etc
to
have
serene
the
room.
Won't
heat
up
so
much
they'll
be
far
more
collegial
as
we
go
forward.
So
that's
it
on
the
housekeeping
anything
to
add
to
our
base
chair
to
me.
E
D
Collaborate
of
equina
keep
OC
solid,
IC
v
building
blocks
for
planning
in
ottawa
in
this
term
of
Council;
first,
a
strong
city
building
agenda;
second,
fair
and
efficient
approval
decisions;
third,
increased
development
certainty;
fourth,
better
public
engagement
and
fifth
innovation.
First
on
the
importance
of
city
building
agenda:
this
is
next.
This
is
an
exciting
time
for
planning
in
Ottawa.
The
city's
population
is
going
to
reach
1
million
over
the
next
decade.
D
Just
think
of
what
our
downtown
is
going
to
look
like
at
the
end
of
this
term
of
council,
with
the
completion
of
the
Confederation
Line
project,
the
revitalization
of
the
Rideau
Center
and
the
NAC
are
streetscaping
plans
on
Reno
and
Queen
Street
and
finally,
development
or
lebreton
flats
and
ashati
air
islands.
Through
this
investment
of
careful
planning,
we
are
hope,
helping
to
create
the
buzz
and
the
beat
that
our
downtown
has
needed.
D
Because
of
this,
the
surrounding
urban
core,
like
West
Bell
and
Hintonburg
River
in
every
Chinatown
and
Vanier
and
Red
Mill
among
others,
are
thriving.
We
will
need
to
protect
attractive
and
reasonable
development
in
these
destination
neighborhoods,
but
city
building
extends
beyond
the
downtown.
It
also
is
about
recognizing
that
the
suburban
way
of
life
is
still
the
dream
and
top
lifestyle
choice
of
many,
and
to
this
end,
the
suburban
growth
will
continue
and
it
should
continue.
D
This
council
will
complete
the
work
of
the
previous
one
in
ensuring
that
the
goals
of
intensification
and
our
balance
on
the
on
the
ground
realities
of
life
in
the
suburbs
city,
building
in
Ottawa
means
as
well
that
our
royal
way
of
life
is
preserved
and
our
village
is
strong.
That
is
why
we
have
and
continue
to
have
the
agricultural
nail
Affairs
Committee,
but
the
decisions
that
this
committee
will
make
will
inevitably
impact
the
rural
area
just
the
same.
D
In
this
being
the
case,
every
decision
that
we
make
here
around
this
table
at
this
committee
must
be
done
with
an
eye
to
every
corner
of
the
2800
square
kilometers
in
our
similar
Ottawa.
In
the
last
term
of
council,
we
developed
and
approved
forward-looking
new
master
plans
for
land
development
and
transportation
for
the
entire
city.
The
work
on
the
Official
Plan,
the
infrastructure
plan
and
the
transportation
master
plan
and
the
pedestrian
recycler
think
plans
involve
an
unprecedented
level
of
public
engagement.
We
now
have
the
task
of
putting
these
plans
into
effect.
D
It's
about
implementation
through
local
plans,
updated
zoning
accounts
of
decisions
that
implement
that
official
plan.
We've
got
the
plans
in
place.
Well,
that's
good
building!
Now,
under
the
second
row,
they
walk
a
fair
development
review
process.
We
want
to
be
clear,
fair
and
firm
with
the
developers
who
are
building
this
city.
The
development
of
you
process
needs
to
be
timely.
The
city
needs
to
be
clear
and
consistent
about
its
requirements
and
developers
need
to
respect
City
plans.
We
won't
seize
the
opportunity
of
this
city.
D
If
we
are
adversaries,
we
need
an
environment
of
trust
and
respect.
So,
let's
work
together.
The
third
building
block
is
a
greater
development
certainty.
The
city
is
bringing
the
ideas
and
guidance
of
the
master
plans
down
to
the
neighborhood
level,
with
local
plans
that
provide
increased
certainty
for
residents
and
developers.
A
large
block
of
implementing
zoning
has
been
prepared
for
key
development
areas
in
Ottawa.
This
zoning
package
implements
the
rules
that
were
set
out
in
the
Official
Plan,
which
was
approved
by
council
in
2013.
D
The
new
zoning
package,
if
approved
by
council
next
month,
would
mean
less
red
tape,
shorter
timelines
and
reduced
costs
for
businesses
and
for
residents
who
will
be
able
to
build
without
applying
for
a
zoning
change.
Further
implementing
zoning
will
be
before
committee
this
year
and
next
planning
committee
approved
making
a
design
plans
for
pestle,
Carling
and
scott
streets
in
2014
and
nine
other
communities.
I
fans
are
also
in
a
development,
and
we
had
many
other
competitors
complete
and
on
the
books
again,
these
local
plans
provide
clarity
and
fewer
instances
of
divisive
planning
fights.
D
Infill
development
guidelines
are
being
designed
to
be
easy
to
understand
and
implement
for
developers
and
residents
that
still
a
work
in
progress.
The
fourth
building
block
is
better
public
engagement.
In
the
last
two
years,
we
have
significantly
move
the
yardstick
forward
on
public
engagement
like
most
other
Canadian
cities,
and
indeed,
cities
around
the
world
planning
is
the
single,
most
contentious
issue.
D
Most
can
sing
the
most
contentious
area
of
consultation
and
information,
sharing
planning
can
be
changed
and
then
change
is
often
difficult.
Planning
can
mean
disruption
in
their
lives,
but
planner
can
also
mean
preservation
and
planning
can
mean
better
neighbourhoods
which,
for
too
long
planning
has
been
seen
as
a
negative
in
this
building
and
in
our
community,
partly
due
to
uncertainty
in
the
rules
of
the
game
and
partly
due
to
poor
communications.
This
began
to
change
last
term,
so
we,
how
did
that
change?
D
We
opened
the
doors
to
the
urban
design
review
panel,
we're
undertaking
a
Pyatt
and
concert
in
Chile's
capital,
ward.
With
respect
to
pre-application
consultation.
We
have
updated
our
report
templates
to
committee
for
readability.
We
reviewed
many
of
our
touch
points
with
the
public,
with
the
goal
of
ensuring
that
everything
is
in
plain
language
and
fully
accessible.
The
most
obvious
to
the
average
resident
was
the
over
revue
signs
and
I'm
pleased
to
say
that
we
won
an
award
for
that
change.
D
The
dazzling
notice
award
we
wanted
at
the
end
of
last
year,
and
this
was
for
the
signs
of
you
now
see
around
the
community,
which
actually
shows
what
the
project
might
look
like
in
the
next
few
months.
We
will
be
launching
some
new
ways
in
which
the
public
will
receive
information
and
be
engaged.
I
also
know
that
many
of
my
colleagues
around
the
table
and
residents
have
other
ideas
on
how
we
can
further
collaborate.
I
look
forward
to
those
conversations.
D
My
fifth
and
final
building
block
is
innovation,
we're
moving
ahead
with
the
building
better
and
smarter
suburbs
project
to
look
at
how
we
can
improve
suburban
design
involving
all
City
apartment
departments.
Utilities
and
school
boards
will
also
review
our
employment
lands
to
ensure
that
they're
in
the
right
places
responding
to
market
forces
and
helping
to
create
communities
where
people
can
live,
work
and
play.
The
city
wants
to
see
continued
improvement
in
the
design
of
new
buildings.
D
An
area
where
Ottawa
saw
a
huge
improvement
in
the
last
term
of
council
will
help
make
that
happen
through
the
continued
good
work
of
our
talented
in
her
staff
and
the
urban
design
review
panel
and
our
excellent
developers
who
will
bring
a
lot
of
their
talent
to
the
table
as
well.
Ultimately,
I
will
judge
whether
or
not
I
have
served
this
committee
well
as
chair.
If
we
can
accomplish
what
I
have
set
out.
D
Many
of
you
know
me
to
be
an
honest
broker,
one
who
has
to
get
the
job
done
and
who's,
not
necessarily
big
on
on
policy
and
procedure.
I,
just
don't
want
to
get
in
my
ways
what
I'm
saying
I
know
it's
important,
however,
I
look
forward
to
four
years
of
implementation
with
you
changing
the
channel
and
how
we
talk
about
planning
in
Ottawa
and,
ultimately,
I'm
building
this
beautiful
Capitol
thanks
very
much.
Everybody
I
hope
that
that's
going
to
set
us
in
the
right
direction.
Thank
you
to
mr.
D
D
This
is
a
public
meeting
to
consider
the
proposed
comprehensive
official
plan
and
zoning
bylaw
amendments
listed
as
I
was
5
and
6
on
today's
agenda
for
the
items
listed
above,
only
those
who
make
for
submissions
today
or
written
submissions
before
the
amendments
are
adopted
may
appear
the
matter
to
the
Antonio
municipal
board.
In
addition,
the
applicant
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
into
the
interior
ministry
board
of
counsel
does
not
adopt
an
amendment
within
120
days
of
receipt,
the
application
for
zoning
and
180
days
to
foreign
official
plan
amendment.
D
So
committee
members,
do
we
have
any
declarations
of
interest?
No
confirmation
of
minutes
and
just
for
the
record,
you
have
to
have
been
at
this
meeting
as
a
as
a
living
member,
I'm,
sure
I
would
think,
usually
with
minutes
November
25th,
so
vice-chair
Chaney
carried.
Thank
you.
Okay.
The
first
item
today
is
the
application
alter
the
Charles
building
house
at
187,
Billings
Avenue,
the
property
designated
part
for
the
interior,
Heritage
Act.
We
do
have
speakers,
so
we
will
be
holding
that
and
we
have
a
presentation
as
well.
D
Number
two
is
the
application
to
demolish
140
Howard
Street,
a
property
designated
in
part,
five
of
the
interior
Heritage
Act
and
located
in
the
rocker
Park
Heritage
Conservation
District.
Is
there
anyone
to
speak
on
that?
No
does
anyone
our
committee
wanna
vote
for
that
item?
No,
is
it
carried
then?
Thank
you
number
three
is
the
status
update
planning
committee
inquiries
to
city
1?
Have
any
questions
or
one
of
us
or
is
it
received
received?
D
Thank
you.
Then
before
is
the
planning
committee
terms
of
references
pretty
much
the
same
as
the
last
term,
with
one
small
exception
on
DCs
for
the
world?
Does
anyone
want
to
hold
this
item?
We
have
no
delegations
as
a
carry.
Thank
you
number
five
I'm
going
to
go
to
best
chair
attorney
on
this
one.
He
has
a
motion
to
defer.
C
Thank
You
chair
header,
that
the
Planning
Committee
approved
the
agenda
item
number
five,
comprehensive
zoning,
bylaw
2008
250
anomalies,
minor
corrections
to
the
q1
2015
be
deferred
to
the
Planning
Committee
meeting
of
the
10th
of
February
2015,
as
those
incorrect
version
appear
within
the
agenda.
Thank.
D
Yes,
what
it
was
is
that
the
incorrect,
a
different
version,
the
wrong
version,
went
out
with
the
agenda
as
opposed
to
the
one
that
is
the
one
that
were
that
we
should
be
approving
and
so
for
the
public
to
have
a
chance
at
at
seeing
the
corrected
version.
We're
holding
off
for
one
meeting
that
carrying
okay.
D
All
right,
so
that
is
deferred
so
number
six
we're
going
to
hold
that
for
presentation,
and
the
reason
is
that
you
know
this
is
a
setting
a
new
stage.
I
think
in
suburban
development
and
I
think
that
from
information
piece
for
everyone
in
the
room,
I
think
that
it's
a
it's
good
to
have
a
chat.
I
know
that
Chelsea,
looper
and
I
were
chatting
earlier
about
it.
So
I'm
sure
that
you
all
have
a
couple
of
comments
at
that
time
too.
D
Okay,
so
before
you
get
to
number
seven
I
wanted
to
which
begins
the
the
tour
of
under
the
under
the
jurisdiction
of
our
chief,
petty
officer,
Elaine
Gregoire,
or
is
she
31
and
so
before?
We
start
that
before
I
go
through?
Those
I
wanted
to
just
wanted
to
note
that
this
is
the
very
last
planning
committee
meeting
for
arlene
Gregoire,
our
chief
building
official
and
director
of
Building
Code
services
as
she's
retiring
at
the
end
of
this
month.
After
30
years
of
public
service.
D
D
She
is
known
in
City
Hall
as
a
no-nonsense
manager
who
cares
deeply
about
the
city
and
is
dedicated
to
protecting
the
public
interest.
Her
calm
approach
and
capacity
for
hard
work
is
highly
regarded.
We're
gonna
miss
our
way
that
she
starts
the
next
stage
of
her
life
and
she's
already
been
test
driving
it
a
little
bit,
but
we
won't
so
where
I
understand
some
ambitious
expeditions
by
foot
I
mean
we're.
D
Gonna
miss
you
for
sure,
but
thank
you
for
all
your
hard
work
over
these
years
and
for
the
job
that
you've
done
on
behalf
of
all
the
taxpayers
in
the
City
of
Ottawa.
So
before
we
let
you
go
as
I
say
we
do
have
a
few
committee
reports
to
wind-up
and
so
I'm
going
to
go
to
them.
Number
seven
is
the
waiver
to
the
way.
While
we
have
you
in
the
room
and
number
seven
is
the
waiver
to
permanent
signs
on
private
property.
This
one
is
at
38,
twelve
North
bozo
Road
and
do
I.
D
Have
any
speakers
I
don't
do.
Does
any
one
way
to
hold
this
item
is
the
stop
recommendation
to
refuse
Kerry
Kerry?
Thank
you.
I
know
that
council
medic
was
supporting
the
recommendation
as
well,
and
then
we
have
a
street
name
change,
Avenue
and
Founder
Avenue
to
Avenue
Robert
Grant
Avenue
instead
fell.
Did
you
want
to
hold
a
Adam
I
just.
C
C
I
just
have
a
comment
on
item
number.
Eight,
just
a
short
comment.
Yes,
thank
you
very
mature
and
I
just
want
to
thank
all
the
staff
and
my
community
for
recommending
that
name
number
one
and
for
today
hoping
to
have
that
item,
carry
the
on
consent
and
obviously
at
the
council
to
be
approved
also
because
I
think
from
a
community
perspective.
It
is
an
important
name
in
the
community
and
beyond
that.
C
D
It's
a
grand
story
really
for
those
in
the
audience.
If
you
haven't
read,
why
we're
doing
this,
it
really
is
a
good
story.
Is
that
Carrie
Carrie?
Thank
you
so
now
on
tomorrow
and
there
were
nine
minor
variances
to
permanent
signs
on
private
property.
3105
in
this
road,
I
have
no
speakers.
Anybody
want
a
holder
to
have
questions.
Is
it
Carrie,
then?
Thank
you
in
permit
signs
on
private
property
amendment
for
permanent
real
estate
information
signs.
D
F
F
Guys
so
maybe
I
should
just
explain
this
yeah.
So
the
question
was
on
this
matter:
we're
being
asked
to
approve
the
if
the
allowance
of
condos
to
fix
a
vacancy
or
a
rental
sign,
and
the
permitted
sign
according
to
the
staff
report,
was
1.5
square
meters,
and
my
question
was:
is
that
a
change
from
the
existing
size
of
what
those
units
can
presently
place
in
residential
zones?.
E
D
D
G
B
D
A
good
point,
and
and
as
councillor
Sher
Ali
said
when
he
was
speaking
his
support
for
miss
Gregoire
on
two
occasions
in
particular,
we
really
had
content
contentious
situations,
but
we
work
very
well
nice
on
these
and
it's
sudden
it's
been
a
lot
of
work,
but
part
of
the
problem
is
the
fear
that
something
chieftains
going
to
change
count.
Sorry
yeah.
C
I
just
wanted
to
say
that,
and
also
it
requires
council
members
to
show
some
real
spine
on
some
of
these
occasions.
You
know
I
have
to
Hadley
streets
in
my
ward
yeah
and
on
different
occasions.
The
wrong
vehicles
have
gone
to
the
wrong
streets,
and
this
is
a
very
unsafe
situation.
Miss
Gregoire's
pointed
that
out
and
some
people
are
going
to
want
their
street
name
changed,
but
it
in
the
end
it
doesn't
matter.
We
have
street
names
to
help
people
find
places.
C
D
C
D
Just
closing
on
that
I
think
contentious
to
a
great
degree,
because
there
were
so
many
in
municipalities
that
were
already
fighting
the
fact
that
we
had
amalgamated
and
so
now
we're
later
into
the
process
and
I
think
people
are
seeing
a
greater
Ottawa
and
I
think
that
that
will
be
helpful
as
well.
They
know
more
about
their
neighbors
right,
so
is
that
that
informations
received?
Thank
you?
H
Good
morning,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
Lesley
Collins
and
I'm,
one
of
the
heritage
planners
in
the
planning
and
wealth
management
department.
The
application
before
the
committee
today
is
to
alter
the
Charles
Billings
house
at
187,
Billings
Avenue,
which
is
designated
under
part
4
of
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act.
H
Just
to
give
you
some
context,
the
property
is
located
at
the
end
of
Cavendish
Street
sort
of
at
the
intersection
of
Billings
and
Cavendish
in
the
Alta
Vista
neighborhood.
This
is
an
older
aerial
photo,
but
the
building
was
a
an
l-shaped
building
on
quite
a
large
lot.
You
will
notice
that
it
doesn't
have
a
door
facing
Billings
Avenue
its
front
door
faces
faces
away
from
the
street,
and
that's
because
the
house,
in
fact,
actually
predates
the
street
pattern
here.
So
is
madrier
to
the
street
pattern.
H
This
is
a
current
picture
of
the
house.
Taken
last
fall,
you
can
see.
Some
of
the
additions
on
the
house
have
been
removed,
as
I
just
mentioned.
Here
is
the
front
door
of
the
building
again
facing
away
from
the
street.
The
house
was
built
in
the
1850s
sorry
prior
to
the
1850s.
The
evidence,
the
historic
record
is,
is
a
little
bit
fuzzy
earlier
than
1850s,
but
we
do
have
evidence
that
it
existed
prior
to
1857
when
an
addition
was
built
on
the
house.
H
H
For
those
of
you
know,
the
estate
of
Bradish,
Billings,
Bradish
and
lemare
Billings
is
nearby
and
is
a
National
Historic
Site
and
a
museum
that
is
run
by
the
city
of
Ottawa.
This
is
the
rear
of
the
house.
It
has
had
several
additions
that
have
been
removed
over
the
last
few
months
that
were
not
included
in
the
Heritage
designation,
which
is
why
it
doesn't
look
so
great.
H
Also
the
building
is
vacant,
and
so,
as
such,
the
owner
has
boarded
up
the
windows
and
and
secured
the
building
against
entry,
Purvi
and
property
standards
by
law
for
vacant
buildings
that
are
designated.
So
the
property
was
designated
on
the
prep
for
voluntary
Heritage
Act
in
2013,
and
this
application
is
before
the
committee
today,
because
applications
to
alter
designated
heritage
buildings
require
the
approval
of
City
Council.
This
application
was
heard
by
the
built
area
subcommittee
at
their
meeting
of
January
the
13th.
H
This
is
a
site
plan
for
the
proposal.
I've
flipped
it
around
just
so
I
can
make
it
bigger,
so
we
have
Billings
Avenue
actually
running
along
the
right-hand
side
of
the
screen.
So
this
is
the
gable
end
of
the
house
that
faces
Billings
Avenue.
This
is
the
original
front
door.
This
is
the
proposed
addition.
H
It's
a
two-story
addition
at
the
back,
and
then
this
area
here
that
is
hashed
is
the
area
of
the
building
that
is
proposed
for
demolition
in
order
to
accommodate
the
new
addition
that
has
been
proposed
so
just
to
show
you
some
elevations,
so
the
North
elevation.
So
this
is
the
rear
of
the
building.
The
bottom
image
is
the
east
elevation.
So
the
back
of
the
original
house
is
here
it's
sort
of
a
confusing
sight.
So
you
can
see
there
is
a
one-story
glass
link
proposed
between
the
existing
building
and
the
new
addition.
H
H
So
this
elevation
on
the
top
here
is
the
South
elevation.
This
is
what
you'll
see
billings
avenue.
The
end
of
the
house
is
is
what
you
currently
see,
and
then
this
is
the
little
front
vestibule
that
I
pointed
out,
and
then
this
is
looking
from
the
west,
so
standing
in
the
yard
looking
at
at
the
historic
building-
and
this
is
the
side
of
the
new
addition
and
again,
this
is
the
other
side
of
that
one-story
glass
link.
I
was
referring
to
just
a
few
renderings.
H
Just
to
give
you
an
idea
of
how
the
property
might
look.
If
the
development
is
approved,
there
would
be
a
new
driveway
coming
in
off
of
Billings
avenue,
which
would
open
up
this
sort
of
forecourt
in
front
of
the
house
right
now.
The
site
is
quite
overgrown.
It
was
vacant
for
I,
think
probably
about
three
years
prior
prior
to
its
sale
to
the
current
owner
and
and
had
been
in
in
the
years
prior
to
that
had
not
been
well-maintained.
H
So,
as
part
of
the
designation
by
law,
the
City
of
Ottawa
City
Council
passed
a
statement
of
cultural
heritage
value
which
has
included
as
document
three
of
the
staff
report,
and
this
document
is
used
to
assess
the
proposed
alteration
and
and
its
impact
on
the
cultural
heritage,
value
of
the
property.
So
it
was
designated
as
a
reverent.
H
Vernacular
example
of
the
Ontario
cottage
style
associated
as
I
said,
with
the
the
Billings
family
and
the
development
of
the
village
of
Billings
bridge
in
the
nineteenth
century,
and
it
has
interesting,
contextual
value
for
its
orientation
away
from
the
street,
which
indicates
the
early
settlement
of
the
property
along
with
that
statement
of
cultural
heritage.
Value
are
a
list
of
heritage
attributes,
and
these
are
the
physical
elements
of
the
building
that
reflect
its
cultural
heritage
values.
So
it's
one
and
a
half
story:
height
side,
gabled,
roof
with
central
gable.
H
The
other
document
that
staff
used
in
assessing
these
applications
is
the
Parks
Canada
standards
and
guidelines
for
the
conservation
of
Historic
Places
in
Canada,
and
this
document
has
been
approved
by
City
Council
as
the
standard
for
assessing
heritage
applications.
So
the
relevant
standards
here
are
standard,
one
conserve
the
heritage,
value
of
an
historic
place,
and
in
this
instance
we
are
looking
at
retention
of
80
percent
of
the
original
building.
Protection
of
the
heritage
attributes
and
the
location
of
the
addition
at
the
Rio
protects
the
contextual
value
that
I've
talked
about.
H
Secondly,
a
standard
10
repair,
rather
than
replace
character,
defining
elements,
the
existing
wood,
cladding,
red,
brick
chimney
and
diamond-shaped
windows
will
all
be
repaired,
restored
and
retained.
As
part
of
this
project,
Senate
11
can
serve
the
Heritage
value
when
creating
any
new
additions.
So
in
this
instance
the
addition
is
compatible
through
its
massing,
its
materials.
H
The
historic
building
remains
the
dominant
presence
on
the
site,
because
the
addition
is
set
back
at
the
rear
and
the
glazed
link
provides
a
clear
differentiation
between
new
and
old
and
then
standard
12,
creating
any
new
additions,
so
I've
paraphrased
a
little
bit.
The
store
plates
will
not
be
impaired
if
the
new
work
is
removed,
so
we
are
looking
at
demolition
of
approximately
four
meters
of
the
length
of
the
house,
and
this
will
have
a
negative
impact
on
the
massing.
H
However,
the
building
will
still
be
able
to
read
as
a
distinct
entity
because
of
the
proposed
glass
link
between
the
two
and
therefore
has
deemed
to
be
appropriate,
has
been
deemed
to
be
appropriate.
A
cultural
heritage
impact
sermon
was
requested
as
part
of
this
project
it.
The
complete
cultural
heritage
impact
statement,
is
included
as
document
seven
of
the
staff
report,
and
it
concludes
that
the
development
proposal
presents
an
overall
positive
impact
for
the
heritage
resource.
H
The
the
cultural
heritage
impact
statement
talks
about
demolition
of
approximately
30
percent
of
the
original
structure,
but
after
the
as
a
reaction
to
both
staff
comment
and
the
comments
from
the
cultural
heritage
impact
statement,
this
amount
has
been
reduced
to
20
percent
consultation.
Counselor
Cloutier
is
aware
of
the
application
heritage.
Ottawa
was
notified
of
the
application
and
it's
comments
are
included
in
the
staff
report
and
I
believe
Leslie
Maitland
is
here
to
speak
today
as
well.
H
Neighbors
within
30
meters
of
the
property
were
notified
and
the
fair
crust,
Heights
and
Alta
Vista
community
associations
were
notified
of
the
application.
So
the
recommendation
today
is
to
approve
the
application
to
alter
issue
the
heritage.
Permit
was
a
two-year
expiry
date
and
delegate
authority
for
minor
design,
changes
to
the
general
manager
of
planning
and
growth
management.
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
the
committee
might
have
on
this
application
to.
D
D
E
E
We
were
going
to
lose
a
hundred
percent
of
this
building
it
the
the
addition,
as
is
a
clever
design.
There
is
no
other
place
to
put
a
parking
or
a
parking
facility,
Armas,
probably
except
where
it
has
been
proposed.
So,
on
the
balance
of
pros
and
cons
in
an
ideal
world,
you
would
save
a
hundred
percent,
that's
true,
and
that
indeed
may
be
what
your
decision
is.
But
having
done
this
for
many
decades,
I
guess
I'm
a
half-full
kind
of
person
or
in
this
case
an
80%
full
kind
of
person.
E
So
that
was
our
position
with
this
one.
One
of
the
other
concerns
raised
at
the
both
headed
subcommittee
is
that
while
the
building
is
being
jacked
up
to
replace
the
foundation,
it
will
be
vulnerable.
Yes,
that's
true.
When
buildings
are
being
renovated,
they
are
vulnerable.
It's
a
fact,
but
I
think
we
may
confidently
rely
upon
the
expertise
and
the
reputation
and
the
experience,
the
architect
we're
hoping
to
make
sure
this
is
a
successful
redevelopment.
E
You
can't
do
better.
My
other
concern
is
how
we
arrived
at
this
decision.
As
mrs.
Collins
noted,
this
was
designated
a
part
for
designation
in
2013,
so
very
recently,
and
as
she
noted
at
the
built
heritage
subcommittee,
it
was
done
fairly
quickly
and
perhaps
the
identification
of
the
character
defining
elements
was
not
as
perfectly
done
as
she
might
have
hoped,
as
we
might
have
hoped.
E
It
speaks
to
the
fact
that
we
are
in
a
perpetual
reactive
situation
with
respect
to
heritage,
and
this
is
because
the
city
is
under-resourced
in
terms
of
staff
and
financing
in
this
function.
If
this
is
an
ongoing
problem,
the
Heritage
reference
list
hasn't
been
updated.
We
talked
about
that
for
years.
The
City
of
Ottawa
website
is
weak
on
its
guidance
on
heritage
conservation
and
heritage.
Ottawa
has
committed
to
working
with
the
city
so
that
our
website
will
do
a
lot
of
what
the
public
needs
to
have.
We
will
do
this.
E
E
If
the
the
age
of
this
building,
the
fact
is,
it's
wood,
a
wooden
building
and
has
clearly
undergone
many
permutations,
would
have
warranted
a
building
report
by
an
engineer
or
a
heritage
architect
and
again,
because
the
city
is
under-resourced
in
these
areas.
That
was
not
done.
This
is
this
is
unfortunate.
It's
it.
It
sounds
like
I'm,
criticizing
staff.
I
am
NOT,
I
am
I,
am
a
hundred
percent
supportive
of
staff
and
hope
that
going
forward
you
will
be
supportive
of
them
as
well.
E
D
G
I,
thank
you
for
listening
to
me
speak
about
the
transporting
sabot
building.
Today
we
I
live
in
a
neighborhood
and
very
very
excited
to
have
a
heritage
building
right
in
our
neighborhood.
It's
very
excited
nice
to
have
an
1800s
early
eighteen,
hundreds
construction,
it's
a
beautiful
it's
in
its
original
location.
It's
got
built
with
local
material
and
it's
a
fine
example,
but
the
building's
legacy
was
not
just
limited
to
the
Bronx
estate.
G
G
We
can,
even
if
we
truncate
and
try
to
build
later,
it's
just
a
reproduction.
This
is
the
original
building,
it
doesn't
work,
but
we
are
able
to
make
those
buildings
up
to
date
and
there
will
be
a
beautiful
building.
I
feel
strongly
about
preserving
the
whole
building,
and
the
third
I
believe
is
missing
from
the
report
is:
why
are
we
I'm
creating
20%
of
the
building?
Why
are
we
not
preserving
100%
and
it
doesn't?
If
you
look
at
the
site
plan
it
references,
you
can
see
that
it's
tight
and
the
Heritage
subcommittee.
G
There
was
motion
of
preservation
of
a
tree
behind
it,
but
it
still
doesn't
explain
why
you
have
purposely
lose
the
integrity
and
the
symmetry
of
an
old
pioneer
building.
Why
would
we
want
to
demolish
any
part
of
the
buildings?
The
question,
so
this
I
plan
also
shows
that
is
to
accommodate
a
large
addition
twice
as
large
as
the
existing
building.
G
The
addition
of
2,700
square
feet
in
addition
to
the
heritage
building
would
make
first
large
3,800
square
foot
home
the
size
limitation
doesn't
represent
the
true
scenario
that
the
heritage
building
sits
currently
on
a
very
large,
lock,
the
widest
lot
on
buildings.
The
space
is
limited
because
the
developer
chose
to
cut
the
parcel
into
so
he
can
build
another
building
beside
it.
So
the
plant
24
2700
square
foot
addition
will
crowd
us
the
heritage
home
and
then
only
to
be
further
crowded
by
a
new
addition
being
built
on
their
Lots.
G
G
G
Currently,
the
property
is
a
bit
of
an
eyesore.
The
building
is
partially
the
maoist
of
types
covering
inside
the
windows
are
boarded
and
there's
a
tall
metal
construction
fence
around
it.
Some
people
may
support
the
proposal
because
it's
an
improvement
to
what
it
is
today,
however,
there's
wonderful
potential
for
this
site,
but
this
proposal
does
not
come
near
its
potential
and
it
does
not
preserve
the
heritage
asset
because
there's
so
much
Landstar
in
the
building.
There
is
no
need
to
damage
the
heritage
builder
at
all.
G
100%
of
it
could
be
maintained,
there's
no
maintained
no
need
to
crowd
the
heritage.
Building.
There
are
three
recommendations.
I
would
like
to
share
with
the
committee.
The
first
recommendation
is
when
servants
for
a
heritage
property
is
proposed,
that
they
said
that
the
heritage
subcommittee
is
circulated
and
that
they
approve
only
with
the
condition
that
none
of
the
purchased
building
can
be
demolished
due
to
space
limitations,
and
the
second
recommendation
is
to
make
sure
that
people
who
buy
heritage
properties
are
true,
stewards
of
the
heritage
property
and
the
third
recommendation.
G
The
most
important
at
this
time
is
for
the
this
committee
to
throw
down
this
current
proposal,
because
it
does
not
max
make
the
most
of
the
potential
of
this
site.
It
unnecessarily
destroys
the
heritage
building
and
it
will
resolve
the
unnecessary
crowd
and
because
and
because
there
are
better
options
available.
Thank
you.
D
G
I
You
all
pleasure
to
speak
before
the
newly
constructed
planning
committee
I'm
not
going
to
comment
reinforce
what
the
Heritage
report
Alessa
Collins
has
spoken
about,
nor
miss
Maitland,
because
I
agree
with
that
100%.
What
I
want
to
do
is
to
bring
some
balance
to
the
discussion.
The
very
first
thing
is
when
this
property
is
acquired,
there
was
proactive
discussion
with
a
heritage
branch
about
what
might
happen
and
how
we
might
save
the
existing
building.
So
this
isn't
a
case
of
suddenly
acquiring
a
heritage
building
and
then
wanting
to
basically
compromise
it.
I
Just
the
opposite-
and
this
is
actually
a
very
good
news
story
in
Leslie's
report.
She
refers
to
the
form
of
the
building
being
a
shelter
or
a
cottage
form
from
that
time
in
history,
and
it
makes
it
important
to
realize
that
when
you
actually
make
a
valiant
attempt
to
preserve
that
scale
and
form
that
actually
has
implications.
I
Images
are
the
ones
at
the
top
to
that.
You
see
there.
Yes,
there
is
an
addition
on
the
back
and
the
reason
that
there's
an
addition
on
the
back
excuse.
You
have
to
purchase
better
the
scale
of
the
front
and
so
that
scale
of
the
front
is
actually
incredibly
modest.
You
can
actually
program
and
use
bedrooms
in
the
second
level,
even
though,
but
in
a
in
2015,
it's
not
possible
to
do
that,
and
so,
when
you
look
at
the
actual
scheme,
what
you
see
is
actually
everything
is
about
the
Heritage
part
of
the
building.
I
I
That's
incredibly
important
I
find
it
odd
that
listening
to
CBC
news
this
morning,
while
I'm
having
my
morning
coffee
that
somehow
this
got
on
to
be
a
big
news
item
in
Ottawa,
but
in
that
little
news
clip
those
discussions
about
cladding
about
stone
foundation
at
lunch
about
film
and
I.
Think
realistically,
this
is
the
overall
story
realistically
over
the
course
of
the
eights
life
for
this
building
that
have
to
be
repaired
with
the
modest
wood
exterior,
it's
the
ongoing
repairs,
the
red
exterior
would
have
been
part
of
the
maintenance
of
any
building.
I
Basically,
what
we
have
is
the
kind
of
reinvention
of
a
heritage,
building
a
celebration
of
what
it
was
managing
and
designing
any
new
upgrades
to
form
and
to
program
so
there
at
the
back
of
the
site,
and
you
can't
appreciate
them
and,
as
Leslie
pointed
out,
the
glass
link
speaking
to
true
heritage
conservation
strategies
that
you
can
differentiate
between
what
was
important
and
what
was
the
historic
part
and
what
is
being
added.
So
those
are
my
my
simple
points.
D
B
B
The
the
centrality
of
the
the
central
gable
struck
me
in
all
the
material
that
I've
been
reading
to
date.
This
is
an
example
of
early
Ontario
cottage
style,
and
everything
that
I
have
read
so
far
indicates
that
the
symmetry
of
the
space
is
is
part
of
riotous
exemplary
of
that
style
when
we
lop
20%
of
the
building
off
on
the
way,
and
we
remove
that
symmetry.
Is
it
still
a
representative
example,
a
rare
example
of
a
particular
style.
I
The
street
was
no
big.
Deal
was
actually
first
created,
but
the
notion
of
the
forecourt
in
front
of
it
be
able
to
provide
bathing
space
around
the
existing
building.
Those
are
all
relevant
things.
I'm,
not
so
much
focused
on
the
sea
area
front
to
back
as
I
am
to
the
symmetry
that
we
now
experience
as.
B
And
then
a
second
question:
when
I
take
a
look
at
the
the
cultural
heritage
impact
statement,
it
indicates
that
it,
the
statement,
should
look
at
alternative
development
approaches
that
results
in
compatible
development
and
limit
negative
impacts.
I,
don't
see
any
indication
in
the
cultural
heritage
impact
statement
of
what
some
of
those
alternative
development
approaches
might
have
been
that
could
have
left
the
whole
building
here.
It
doesn't
sound
like
many
different
configurations
of
the
lot
were
looked
at
or
if
they
are,
they
haven't
been
presented
to
this
committee
or
to
staff.
I
Definitely
not
to
this
committee
and
definitely
not
to
built
heritage,
but
definitely
to
staff,
because
there
wasn't,
it
was
an
iterative
process.
We
never
staff
in
advance
before
the
property
was
acquired.
We
presented
schemes
to
staff
for
the,
and
basically
this
is
the
balance
of
that.
The
last
nuance:
it
was
to
increase
the
retention
of
the
existing
building
that
was
previously
proposed.
I
C
C
Hoban,
is
to
comment
why
the
proposal
why
or
what,
how
you
considered
this
site
and
why
why
it
was
not
possible
to
build
further
back
on
the
site
to
retain
100%
of
the
building
instead
of
the
20%
compromise
that
we
have
before
us,
was
it
not
possible
to
build
the
expansion
of
the
house
and
maintain
100%
of
the
existing
structure?
Well,
I
mean.
I
Think
the
last
presenter
talked
about
the
rate
that
someone
might
put
on
someone
who
purchases
heritage,
building
and
part
of
it
and
engaging
with
someone
who
would
want
to
take
it
on
would
be
able
to
solve
the
functional
programmatic
issues
of
house
in
a
really
great
neighborhood
on
a
sizeable
piece
of
land,
and
so
it's
it's
yeah
I
guess
you
could
say
if
we
just
made
the
house
would
buy
it
that
I
would
save
the
existing
house.
So
again,
it's
a
matter
of
balancing
off
these
two
things.
I
The
other
part
is
that
there's
a
rather
significant
tree
in
the
backyard
where
we
didn't
want
to
encroach
on
that
tree.
We
considered
that
to
be
an
important
part
of
the
planning,
so
it's
not
just
a
matter
of
retention
of
the
existing
Heritage
property.
It's
actually
creating
something,
that's
of
value
in
terms
of
what's
what
is
being
added
to
the
house,
so
it
all
makes
sense,
and,
quite
frankly,
the
internal
workings
of
the
house
demanded
that
that
removal
to
make
the
rest
of
it
functionally
work.
So
that
would
be
my
simple
response.
C
C
C
Initiated
the
call
when
we
were
contemplating
purchasing
the
property
and
contacted
the
heritage
department
of
the
city
of
Ottawa
and
we've
had
been
proactive,
as
he
said,
to
make
sure
that
we
retained
every
part
of
the
house
that
was
workable,
went
through
a
good
working
relationship
with
with
mr.
Alvin
and
his
columns
here.
We've.
We
think
we've
come
up
with
a
very
good
proposal
here
for
the
property.
C
D
C
F
You
children,
as
we've
heard
this
morning,
this
issue
was
considered
by
the
gulfarium
subcommittee
last
week.
I
just
thought
I
would
mention
a
couple
of
things.
The
first
is
miss
Dekker
raised
three
points
that
she
felt
should
be
considered
in
the
consideration
of
this
matter
and
I
simply
wanted
to
say
that
her
first
point
the
issue
of
the
severance
of
that
law
and
the
fact
that
the
building
subcommittee
did
not
play
an
active
role
in
that
severance
did
not
comment
on.
It
did
not
have
actually
the
jurisdiction
of
the
terms
of
reference
to
do.
F
There
I
think,
and
it's
something
to
both
Harwich
subcommittee
plans
to
take
up
and
will
bring
to
council
before
the
1st
of
April
in
terms
of
seeing
whether
or
not
there
is
more
engagement
from
the
heritage
point
of
view
that
can
be
considered
in
the
context
of
situations
like
that,
where
you
have
a
severance.
So
that
was
my
first
point.
The
second
point
is
I
thought.
Miss
Maitland
said
it
well
that
I
don't
think
anybody
around
the
both
her
subcommittee
felt
that
this
was
a
perfect
solution.
F
In
the
end,
however,
the
subcommittee
did
approve
the
motion,
and
at
least
in
my
case
I
can
say.
I
was
informed,
certainly
by
the
staff
report
by
the
position
of
Heritage
Ottawa
by
the
cultural
heritage
impact
statement
by
the
position
of
councillor
couch
a
who
was
the
word
councillor
by
the
fact
that
the
community
associations
were
engaged
did
not
oppose.
They
had
some
interesting
questions
and
comments,
and
also,
in
the
end,
by
the
fact
that
of
a
majority
of
the
citizen
members
of
the
built
heritage
subcommittee,
who
our
heritage
experts
also
voted
in
favour.
B
Whether
you
agree
with
mr.
Hogan's
assertion
that
in
the
original
designation
report,
when
we
talk
about
the
importance
of
the
gabled
roof
with
the
central
gable
over
the
entrance,
which
really
speaks
to
that
symmetry,
that
that
is
less
important
than
the
end
that
faces
the
street.
D,
still
consider
that
this
building
with
the
the
loss
of
the
symmetry,
would
still
be
a
good
representative
example
of
the
Ontario
College
style.
H
The
the
original
building
was
actually
not
perfectly
symmetrical,
the
it
does
have.
We
call
it
a
central
gable
because
it's
pretty
close
to
being
central.
The
historic
record
as
I
said
in
my
presentation,
is
a
little
bit
fuzzy.
The
building
was
likely
built
sometime
in
1830s.
We
have
a
contract
agreement
between
Bradish,
Billings
and
Archibald
mckellar
from
1857.
That
notes
that
Billings
will
construct
an
addition
on
the
house
of
I.
Think
it's
approximately
nine
feet.
H
H
You
have
part
of
the
basement,
has
hand-hewn
large
Timbers
and
then
another
section
of
the
basement
has
sawn
Timbers,
which
presumably
would
have
been
the
later
addition,
but
because
the
historic
record
is
not
complete
its
surmising
so
based
on
our
best
guess,
the
building
was
never
actually
perfectly
symmetrical
and
maybe
when
it
was
first
constructed,
but
not
in
1850s,
which
is
the
portion
of
the
building.
We
believe
we
have
designated
and
so
I
think
that
the
preservation
of
the
gable
ended
structure
with
a
central
gable.
D
The
item
is
it
carried
okay.
Thank
you
very
much
thanks
very
much
for
your
presentation.
Things
are
with
delegations
tequila
and
now
we're
going
on
to
item
number
six,
which
is
the
official
plan
amendment
for
3288,
Green,
Bank,
Road
and,
while
I
said
that
we
were
holding
that
for
and
then
from
the
informative
presentation.
Since
that
time
we
do
have
a
delegation,
that's
in
opposition
as
well,
so
before
us,
we
have
mr.
Phil
petty,
welcome
back
Willie,
David
and
David
wise.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Presentation
I
believe
that
this
report
is
very
much
in
keeping
with
some
of
the
principles
that
the
chair
enunciate
at
the
outset
of
the
report
outside
of
the
meeting.
It
incorporates
an
important
piece
of
city
building
for
the
suburban
area
as
well,
that
we
believe
the
process
by
which
we
followed
was
a
good
one,
a
little
bit
of
compromise
on
all
parties
drawn
and
certainty
for
the
development
industry.
A
Certainly,
the
public
was
engaged
as
well
as
a
lot
of
the
surrounding
land
owners
that
we
believe
very
much
support
of
our
report
and
it's
quite
innovative
as
far
as
bringing
a
new
concept
or
newer
concept,
making
the
secondary
plan
in
the
in
the
town
center,
making
it
more
modern
and
something
that
we
as
a
whole,
as
a
committee
and
as
a
city
builders,
can
very
much
support.
So
I'll
ask
Lily
to
give
you
the
presentation
and
we'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
question
afterwards.
J
J
The
property
is
located
in
social
in
Towson
here
and
sure,
as
in
the
right
line
here
on
this
arrow
is
to
the
rest
of
the
game
by
Road
cells
of
a
Japanese
extension
and
a
yeast
of
the
existing
can
Punk
the
need
of
ceramic
area
companies,
mostly
vacant
urban
lands.
To
the
nurse
is
the
existing
strength
of
the
retail
district
of
large-format
retail,
as
well
as
commercial
service
uses
within
multi-tenancy
buildings.
J
The
first
is
to
change
the
land
use
designation
for
the
north
east
of
block
block
from
a
high-rise
mixed-use
to
mid
rise
mixed
years.
The
perimeter
of
the
building
Hyderabad
changer
to
phone
six
to
twelve
stories
to
afford
two
tall
stories
and
the
maximum
building
a
residential
building
coverage
will
be
removed
for
this
language
destination.
J
Staff
has
revealed
to
the
proposal
based
on
official
plan
policies,
especially
regarding
mix
two
centers
on
passenger,
as
well
as
a
principals
and
the
objectives
in
the
secondary
plan
for
this
area
and
affirm.
That
proposal
is
of
a
compact
urban
form.
It
provides
desirable
density
of
a
hundred
units
minimum,
but
not
hectare
or
approximately
150
people
and
the
jobs
pro-gross
factor
which
exceeds
it.
We
offer
your
plans
a
minimum
density
requirement
for
this
area.
J
The
proposal
will
provide
opportunities
for
mixed-use.
It
offers
a
range
of
job
and
housing
choices,
provides
over
of
low
medium
and
high
rise
building
forms
and
a
lost
minor
commercial
and
the
service
uses
as
well
as
live
work
units
as
a
ground
floor
around
public
streets,
especially
along
BMAC
road
and
a
chopper
news
drive.
J
The
proposal
maintains
a
great
pattern,
which
is
the
key
point
in
the
official
plan
to
allow
future
intensification
within
the
town
center
area.
It
supports
a
fish
in
the
moments
of
all
modes
of
transportation,
including
walking,
cycling
and
the
Trinity
use,
and
the
provides
a
pedestrian
and
bicycle
feminist
system
of
streets
and
blocks.
J
F
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
presentation.
My
question
relates
to
the
treatment
I
guess
of
Street
C,
with
the
addition
of
mixed
juice
on
the
north
part
of
that
package
above
the
park.
My
question
relates
to
whether
or
not
the
secondary
plan
could
consider
treatment
of
that
as
a
Main
Street
type
of
Street.
You
talked
about
the
importance
of
the
pedestrian
and
cycling
infrastructure.
F
Is
there
going
to
be
any
effort
in
there
to
create
something
where
residents
will
be
able
to
enjoy
some
kind
of
Main
Street
like
experience,
and
the
concern
is
on
the
north
side?
It
doesn't
look
like
you're
going
to
have
a
continuous
building
front,
so
I'm
just
wondering
how
you
intend
to
manage
that,
assuming
you
would
find
that
kind
of
approach
desirable
for
a
mixed
use
area
like
this.
J
A
Through
the
chair,
if
I
can
just
just
add
on
to
Lily's
point,
it's
a
question
of
character
as
well
too,
and
just
enunciated
here
is
that
the
primary
commercial
character,
the
primary
main
street
character,
will
be
focused
on
the
arterial
roads,
which
is
of
Lewis
said,
would
be
Chapman,
Moe's,
Drive
just
running
along
the
north
side
of
the
site
plan,
and
that's
one.
Where
indicated
that
we
would
have
strong.
Certainly,
we've
kept
the
option
open
for
ground-floor
commercial
activities
to
occur
along.
There
certainly
get
that
commercial
character
along
that
Street.
A
That's
also
the
primary
rate
as
well
to
of
where
the
future
BRT
bastrop
a
transit
system
will
be
running
through
there.
So
we
certainly
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
keep
that
flexibility
open
to
really
have
that
Main
Street
feel
there.
The
other
quarters
really
also
mentioned
was
the
Queen
Bank
Road
on
the
right
side.
Well,
again,
that's
going
to
have
more
of
that
Main
Street
characteristic,
what
the
building's
tucked
very
close
to
the
street
addressing
it
Street
C
is
very
much
of
a
more
residential
character.
Now
it
will
still
be
following
our
design
guidelines.
A
We
have
very
comprehensive
design
guidelines
for
in
for
communities
and
for
Greenfield
communities
where
that
one
will
be
the
site
plan
control.
We
will
be
looking
very
closely
for
the
applicant
to
address
that
Street
edge
with
very
strong
architecture
landscaping.
We
are
in
discussions
with
respect
to
how
we
treat
the
pedestrian
realm
in
the
cycling
realm
within
that,
because
it
will
be
of
a
residential
character
within
there.
Certainly,
the
the
town
center
community
design
plan
provides
direction
to
staff
on
how
the
pedestrian
and
the
cycling
network
is
to
operate
through
air
and
streets.
A
C
Thanks
just
to
stay
on
that
point,
a
little
bit
Street
see
where
all
three
of
the
main
streets
through
that
neighborhood
are
long
and
straight.
So
how
does
the
plan
envision
addressing
issues
relating
to
speed,
especially
because
we
do
have
a
park
in
the
area
and
long
and
straight
roads
in
the
suburbs,
or
you
know,
lace,
ways
and
I
think
I
work
on
the
suburban
building
better
suburbs
demonstrate
said
so
let
what's
in
the
plan
to
address
that
on
the
front
end.
So.
J
A
A
Just
just
I'm,
sorry,
just
just
to
get
to
I,
think
we're
well
I,
think
you're
going
and
then
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
here,
no
feel
free
but
well.
The
applicant
is
proposing
just
within
there
is.
He
is
proposing
an
18
meter
cross
section
for
some
of
those
interior
roads
which
would
be
a
reduced
drivable.
A
in
aft
meters
and
staff
is
certainly
working
with
them
to
see.
If
we
can
sort
of
make
that
happen
with
the
sidewalks
on
both
sides.
Okay,
that
would
be
the
ideal
and
the
interior.
C
A
The
neighborhood
yeah
I
see
what
you're
saying
and
that's
certainly
something
that
we
would.
We
would
address
this
the
applicant
if
the
opportunity
arises,
you
know
it's
a
reflection
back
on
its
building
form
a
configuration,
and
but
it's
certainly
something
that
staff
can
raise
when
we
get
to
the
subdivision
stage.
Sure.
D
D
It's
a
it's,
not
a
green
Bank,
Road
I
think
would
be
problematic
to
think
about
it
on
Green
Bay,
certainly,
as
you
recognize
Chapman
mills
will
have
eventually
the
BRT
going
right
down
the
middle
of
it,
but
roundabouts
are
extremely
popular
in
in
my
community
and
certainly
where
we
have
them
in
the
city.
Thank
you,
anyway,
to
have
any
other
questions.
Yeah,
I'm,
sorry,
coastal
Barrington.
Thank.
C
You,
madam
chair,
in
the
staff
report
on
page
three
there's
a
bulleted
list
of
what's
being
proposed
and
the
second-last
talks
about
shifting
the
location
of
the
school
block
to
the
south
by
approximately
25
meters,
while
maintaining
the
same
size
of
the
school
block,
which
is
good
to
read.
Is
that
block
right
in
the
bottom
right
corner?
Here
of
your
illustration.
J
C
Is
it?
Why
does
it
not
show
a
school
cited?
It
appears
to
me
that
those
are
those
are
buildings
there.
It
says
potential
school
site
in
the
bottom
right
corner
I
just
want
to
receive
some
confirmation.
When
does
the
decision
get
made,
that
this
will
become
a
school
site?
What
what
process
has
to
happen
for
that.
J
D
K
Chair
committee,
mortal
to
them
all
it's
about
their
to
be
here
today.
My
name
is
Chris
Lyon
I'm
with
SEMA
Canada
and
madam
chair.
If
I
may
I'd
like
to
present
some
concerns
regarding
the
application
and
hopefully
a
way
forward,
we've
had
a
chance
to
chat
with
the
the
applicant
and
I'm
hoping
that
a
draft
amendment
to
the
motion
could
be
considered.
But
let
me
present
first
some
questions
that
concerns
mr.
mark
Pavlik
and
mr.
Mike.
K
Brea
vac
are
owners
of
the
lands
of
three
to
eight
five
seater
view
road
on
the
opposite
side
of
the
Kennedy
Burnett
stormwater
management
facility,
their
lands,
along
with
the
subject
lands
before
you
today,
are
part
of
a
larger
catchment
area
that
relies
on
the
Kennedy
Burnett
drain,
the
Kennedy
Burnett
stormwater
management
facility
for
stormwater
management.
It
the
the
facility
itself,
is
designed
or
was
designed
to
both
hold
water.
K
So
it's
more
slowly
released
to
the
Joc
River
and
to
provide
for
a
better
quality
of
water,
that's
released
so
that
we
take
care
of
our
natural
resources.
The
Kennedy
Burnett
stormwater
management
facility
is
broken.
The
Ministry
of
the
Environment
has
ordered,
as
against
the
city,
to
find
a
solution.
A
long
environmental
assessment
process
has
been
undertaken
to
find
that
solution
and
none
has
been
found.
K
Before
you
today
is
an
application
for
an
official
plan
amendment,
the
document
in
your
agenda
does
not
address
the
engineering
servicing
study.
That's
behind
this.
It
is,
however,
published
on
your
city
website.
The
document
in
question
produced
last
January
identifies
that
stormwater
from
the
subject:
lands
we'll
go
to
the
Kennedy
Burnett
stormwater
management
facility,
which
will
be
enlarged
that
enlargement
is
no
longer
available
to
this
site
and
in
fact,
if
I
can-
and
this
is
important-
the
landowners
that
are
part
of
that
catchment
area
have
been
working
with
your
city
staff.
K
Now
for
more
than
a
year
meeting
on
a
regular
basis,
trying
to
find
a
solution.
The
Rideau
Valley
Conservation
Authority,
has
been
part
of
that
discussion.
The
engineering
side
has
been
there
trying
to
figure
out
how
the
pipes
can
work.
The
pipes
generally
speaking
are
underwater
and
the
pond
is
not
working
well
to
treat
quality
now
if
I
can
what's
before.
You
today
is
an
official
plan
amendment,
although
the
servicing
report
that
supports
this
amendment
is
old
and
solutions
are
not
current.
Nevertheless,
there
may
be
solutions
available.
K
K
All
these
various
clients
have
been
meeting,
which
means
time
has
gone
into
this.
They
have
had
their
own
engineers
look
at
solutions
and
look
at
impacts
on
their
lands,
which
means
they've.
Investing
money
on
this
they've
been
looking
for
a
common
solution
and
one
is
likely
available,
but
it's
not
on
the
table
yet
the
amendment,
if
I,
can
madam
chair
to
the
motion,
which
of
course
is
looking
for
someone
to
to
sponsor
it-
is
as
follows.
K
Of
course,
you're
being
asked
to
approve
the
motion
and
it
would
be
considered
as
follows,
and
that
staff
be
directed
to
bring
forward
a
solution
for
the
Kennedy
Burnett
stormwater
management
facility
and
related
stormwater
catchment
areas
as
a
condition
of
approval
of
the
plan
of
subdivision
for
these
lands.
The
solution
can
wait
to
the
next
level
of
planning
out
and
certainly
I.
Think
the
planning
department
needs
to
to
firm
that
whether
this
is
acceptable
or
not,
but
as
it
stands
right
now,
the
concerns
of
my
clients
is
that
another
change
is
being
made.
K
Another
expectation
of
the
Kennedy
Burnett
stormwater
facility
is
being
made
and
in
the
end
it
influences
their
impacts.
They
might
have
to
care
more
stormwater
in
their
site.
They
may
have
to
do
more
stormwater
cleaning.
It
could
be
additional
costs
to
them.
There
is
a
solution,
I
think
available
to
the
whole
area.
Your
staff
have
been
diligent
in
working
on
it.
If
I
can.
Madam
chair,
looking
for
a
way
to
have
that
solution,
still
held
as
part
of
the
conditions
for
the
site
is
something
that
my
clients
are
looking
for
through
the
amendment.
Thank
you.
K
D
Just
for
reference
to
the
people
around
the
table
that
don't
know
this
in
2007
the
service
that
was
supposed
to
have
already
gone
through
this
to
be
all
the
way
over
at
CW
and
strand
here
near
before
16.
This
is
the
work
done
for
a
very
long
time.
Don't
make
any
mistake
about
it,
I
think
the
land
that
your
folk,
that
your
owners
have?
Is
it
not
floodplain
where.
D
K
Chair
one
of
the
main
drains
that
assists
water
and
getting
to
the
job
flows
across
my
clients,
lands
and
right
now
the
solutions
that
they're
looking
at
would
see
that
drain
widened
the
amount
of
land
coming
from
my
clients.
Increased
to
handle
stormwater
that
can't
be
handled
by
the
study
can
be
Burnett
to
stormwater
pond.
Well,.
D
As
you
said,
we
don't
know
that,
however,
what
the
rest
of
you,
many
of
you,
don't
know
some
of
you.
Do
we
approved
late
last
year,
a
phenomenal
servicing
agreement
with
all
of
the
landowners
in
the
south.
The
peon
urban
center,
including
regional,
which
owns
the
city
gate
lands
out
by
the
416,
because
they
need
that
to
be
to
happen
to
they
are
working
on
$7,000
for
a
design,
and
then
we
followed
by
seven
million
dollars
to
do
the
work
so
through
that
process.
They
have
to
find
this
anyway.
D
C
Just
following
up
on
that
point,
perhaps
mr.
petty
or
mr.
Moser
can
explain
for
those
who
are
not
as
familiar
with
Greenfield
subdivisions
the
process
once
the
OPA
is
approved,
master
service,
same
subdivision,
approval,
etc.
Just
so
that
the
members,
the
committee
can
be
I,
hope
us
waged
out
of
any
fears
or
concerns
they
might
have.
A
Just
if
I
may,
madam
chair
we've
had
an
assessment
process
going
on
in
the
Kennedy
Burnett
facility,
for
some
time
misses
being
led
by
the
infrastructure
policy
review
group
of
planning
and
growth
management.
Development
review
has
had
a
seat
on
the
technical
advisory
committee,
and
certainly
we
happen
fully
aware
of
the
development
that's
been
proposed
here
and
also
the
interests
that
have
been
there
and
those
have
been
fully
calculated
within
the
within
the
group.
A
That
concept
is
right
now
again,
it
is
a
preferred
approach.
It
is
not
finalized
by
the
desert
estate,
where
staff
is
comfortable,
that
we
have
the
structure
in
place
to
proceed
with
the
Official
Plan
amendment,
and
certainly
that
servicing
report
is
necessary
in
order
for
staff
to
approve
a
draft
plan
of
subdivision.
Certainly
a
draft
plan
of
site
division.
An
applicant
is
required
to
submit
an
adequate
adequacy
of
servicing.
They
must
show
responsible
management
of
water,
waste,
water
and
their
storm
water
on
site.
A
Before
draft
approval
can
be
granted
for
any
subdivision
put
in
the
green
filled
area.
Those
servicing
studies
and
reports
must
be
provided
by
the
applicants
consultant
and
it
must
be
approved
in
by
the
city,
and
so
when
the
applicant
comes
to
the
stage
of
coming
in
with
a
draft
plan
of
subdivision,
we
would
expect
those
reports,
and
certainly
those
reports
would
need
to
be
in
line
with
the
environmental
assessment
which
we
are
in.
The
process
of
finalizing.
D
G
D
L
Good
morning
my
name
is
Miguel
Tremblay
I'm
here
with
Frank
Cairo,
the
owner
of
the
lands,
rather
than
revisit
the
staff
presentation.
I.
Think
we're
simply
here
to
reinforce
our
support
of
the
findings.
Most
of
the
changes
in
the
OPA
and
again,
it's
simply
an
OPA.
It's
a
redistribution
of
building
form
a
refinement
of
that
original
vision
of
the
CDP,
which
is
almost
10
years
old.
Now,
a
tweaking
of
roadways
to
better
reflect
the
development
proposal
better
respond
to
some
of
the
existing
conditions
that
are
now
out
there.
L
There
have
been
developments
that
have
occurred
already
that
have
conditioned
the
lands
to
some
degree.
There's
been
coordination
on
behalf
of
Frank
Iero
and
the
city
with
a
budding
landowners
for
those
those
alignments
of
those
roads
and,
as
a
result
of
that,
there's
been
some
modifications
to
the
the
areas
not
the
size,
but
the
areas
of
the
school
site
and
the
park
all
to
better
meet
some
of
the
original
objectives
of
the
CDP.
The
densities
remain
the
same.
They
just
become
redistributed
on
the
lands
and
and
respond
a
little
bit
better
to
the
development
proposal.
L
But
again,
the
intent
through
the
OPA
is
to
reinforce
some
of
the
principles
of
the
CDP
and
redistribute
in
in
light
of
a
refined
vision,
a
vision
within
a
vision.
If
you
will
we're
here
to
answer
questions,
we
can
revisit
any
of
the
aspects
that
were
raised
earlier,
related
to
the
school
site
or
any
any
other
questions.
I.
B
D
And
thanks
very
much
for
those
comments,
but
I
just
you
know,
because
not
to
have
any
kind
of
competition,
but
just
that
you
know
we
are
doing
our
share
when
it
comes
to
the
density,
we're
achieving
in
fact
higher
density
than
in
the
urban
areas
already,
so
that
you
know
that's
something
that
we
have
to
have
more
talk
chats
about,
because
you
know
one
of
the
things
about
having
new
faces
around
the
table.
We
don't
know
each
other's
hubs
anymore.
D
We
haven't
spent
four
years
looking
at
things
and
I.
Think
that
that's
important,
because
one
of
the
problems
that
we're
having
with
the
building
better
smarter
suburbs
is
the
too
much
density
that
we're
trying
to
to
shovel
into
two
tiny
spaces
to
make
them
livable.
So
that's
really
a
goal
we're
going
after
and
and
developers
and
the
south
a
big
part
of
that
as
well
and
in
in
all
the
suburban
Mort
warrants.
But
thank
you
very
much
for
the
comments,
because
you
know
what
we
up
until
a
few
years
ago.
D
The
highest
building
in
bar
Haven,
for
example,
was
a
stat
town.
Okay,
now
a
little
bit
higher
than
that.
With
the
ampersands,
certainly
with
a
16-story
taga,
and
so
we
are
absolutely
but
the
density
we've
been
achieving,
you
can
imagine
if
it's
not
going
up.
It's
absolutely
not
going
out
this
way,
so
it's
meant
for
smaller
situations,
which
makes
it
more
difficult.
You
know,
as
we
were
talking
about
the
the
right-of-way
and
the
size
of
the
right
aways,
that
interior
street
there
is
actually
the
18
18
meters.
D
D
L
We
just
want
to
add
one
last
comment
related
to
the
previous
delegation
before
you
go
to
to
your
discussion,
but
given
that
this
is
really
just
a
policy
application
to
redistribute
what
densities
are
already
permitted,
we
wouldn't
have
any
appetite
to
support
additional
burden
in
the
OPA.
Knowing
that
there's
a
plan
of
subdivision
application
that
application,
as
mr.
Weiss
explained,
has
municipal
approvals.
It
has
other
layers
of
provincial
approval,
all
of
which
are
intended
to
deal
with
stormwater
issues
servicing
issues.
So
we
don't.
We
don't
see
a
need
to
burden
the
OPA
with
additional
language.
D
C
C
To
just
welcome
the
new
members
of
committee
and
to
congratulate
congratulate
everyone
on
committee
I'm,
looking
forward
to
review
with
all
of
you
in
the
next
tour
of
Council,
and
my
doors
open
and
they'll
be
very
accessible.
My
information
will
be
provided
so
that,
if
there's
any
questions
that
come
up
after
today,
I'll
come
and
meet
at
any
of
your
communities.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thanks
very
much.
D
D
Does
anyone
have
any
notices
of
motion
at
our
very
first
meeting?
We
should
have
talked
about
that.
Maybe
somebody
could
have
been
the
first
one
out
of
the
gate,
with
a
notice
of
motion,
no
challenges
for
the
next
meeting,
any
inquiries
and
the
employees,
no
any
other
business
other
than
to
say.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
think
it
was
a
good
first
meeting
and
a
great
start
to
the
next
four
years,
and
so
are
we
adjourned.
We
are
thank
you
very
much.
So
our
next
meeting
is
Tuesday
February.