►
From YouTube: Planning Committee - February 11, 2021 (part 1 of 2)
Description
Planning Committee - Thursday, February 11, 2021 - video stream
Agenda and background materials can be found at http://www.ottawa.ca/agendas.
A
Real
quick
I'll
run
through
the
quorum
check
morning,
everybody
good
morning.
Everybody
smiling
after
a
long
one.
Yesterday,
oh
wow,
so
like
I
always
say
it's
like
the
gift
that
keeps
on
giving
counselor
tierney
president
counselor
suds
here
counselor.
Oh
sorry,
we
have
regrets
from
counselor
moffat.
A
B
C
A
Hello,
so
we
do
have
corn,
let's
get
the
show
on
the
road.
This
is
a
public
meeting
to
consider
the
proposed
comprehensive
official
plan
and
zoning
bylaw
amendments
listed
as
items
one,
two,
three,
four:
five:
seven,
ten
twelve
and
thirteen
on
today's
agenda
for
the
items
just
mentioned.
Only
those
who
make
oral
submissions
today
or
written
submissions
before
the
amendments
are
adopted
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
local
planning
appeal
tribunal.
A
In
addition,
the
applicant
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
local
planning
appeal
tribunal.
If
council
does
not
adopt
an
amendment
within
90
days
of
receipt
of
the
application
for
zoning
in
120
days
for
an
official
plan
amendment
to
submit
written
comments
on
these
amendments
prior
to
their
consideration
by
city
council
on
january
27th,
please
email
or
call
the
committee
or
the
counselor
coordinator,
any
declarations
of
interest,
seeing
no
hands
confirmation
of
minutes.
From
our
meeting
on
january
14,
2021
report,
35.
A
D
A
Okay,
the
first
item
up
is
a
postponement.
It's
a
sorry!
It's
a
deferral
from
the
last
meeting.
It
is
847
woodruff
avenue
this
was
this
was
deferred
because
someone
had
not
been
correctly
notified.
If
you,
if
you
will
recall-
and
we
do
have
a
speaker
on
this-
so
this
item
is
held
item
number
two
is
a
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
300,
milwaute
private,
and
we
do
have
speakers
on
that
as
well.
A
So
we'll
hold
number
two
number
three
we're
having
a
presentation
so
that
one's
going
to
be
held-
and
we
have
a
fair
number
of
speakers.
This
one
is
the
east
urban
community
phase,
three
area:
community
design,
climb
secondary
plan,
master
servicing
study,
master
transportation,
study,
mud,
creek,
cumulative
impact,
study,
area
parks,
plan
and
official
plan
amendments.
A
Item
number
five
is
a
zoning
bylaw
amendment
574
576,
byron
avenue
and
411
415
419
423,
425,
427,
raven
hill
avenue
it's
in
kitchissippi
ward.
We
have
only
the
applicant
to
speak.
Mr
chown
are
you
here?
Are
you
in
the
room?
E
A
Coming
through
there
yeah
because
he's
he
is
on
here
a
lot,
so
I
know
for
sure
he's
attending
murray.
Are
you
there?
How
do
you
see
him
at
all
melody,
yeah.
A
A
All
right,
so
we
don't
have
anyone
to
speak
in
opposition.
Are
you
do
you
still
need
to
speak
if
we're
prepared
to
carry
the
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
byron
and
raven
hill.
A
A
I
don't
see
any
I'm
not
going
to
put
my
other
other
part
of
my
machine
on
here.
No
we're
good!
So
am
I
receiving
this.
I
don't
have
all
of
my
or
am
I
is
it
a
receiver
or
is
it
a
carried
storage
here?
Let
me
just
I
don't
have
my
book
open,
so
I
will
open
mine.
I.
G
A
Thank
you
and
number
seven
is
being
going
to
be
held.
It's
1705,
carling
avenue.
It's
a
zoning
bylaw
amendment
in
councillor,
leeper's
ward,
again,
we've
got
a
bunch
of
speakers
and
we'll
be
holding
it
number.
Eight
is
development,
charge,
complaint,
500,
preston
street.
We
do
have
speakers
and
we
are
holding
it.
Therefore,
item
number
nine
is
application
to
alter
100
argyle
avenue,
a
property
designated
under
part
5
of
the
ontario
heritage
act.
A
It's
in
council
mckinney's
award,
as
was
the
previous
one,
and
I
see
that
councilor
mckinney
is
here.
I
don't
have
anyone
other
than
the
applicant
to
speak
on
the
application
for
the
for
the
designation,
I'm
sorry
to
alder
100
argo,
which
is
a
a
designated
property
under
the
ontario
heritage
act.
So
miguel
are
you
there,
miguel
chamberlain,
I
am
do
you
need
to
speak
if
we're
prepared
to
carry
this
item.
A
Number
10,
so,
yes,
I
know
so
just
hang
in
so
counselor
mckenny.
Do
you
see
any
reason
to
hold
this?
No,
no
chair!
No!
Not
at
all!
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
is
this
item
carried
all
right,
so
if
we
were
holding
it,
we
would
deal
with
it
probably
along
with
item
number
10
at
the
same
time
which
we
have
before
us
its
official
plan
and
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
that
same
address,
100
argyle
avenue.
A
I
don't
want
to
minimize
how
much
work
has
gone
into
this
one,
but
I
I
don't
have
anyone
to
speak
on
this
item
miguel.
You
don't
need
to
speak.
I
don't
see
you
here.
I
think
that
you
were
listed
for
both
of
them.
Probably
yes,
you
are.
I
see
that
so
do
you
need
to
speak.
If
we
don't
need
to
ask
any
questions.
A
G
And
everybody
worked
very
hard
on
this
one
to
get
where
we're
where
we're
at
today
it
it
is
going
to
be
really
good,
infill
intensification.
You
know
the.
J
G
To
consider
there
was
a
heritage
to
consider
and
how
that
all
had
to
work
together
and-
and
it
was
one
that
quite
frankly,
I
wanted
to
work.
And-
and
so
I
want
to
just
thank
the
the
applicant,
the
community
and
staff
for
just
continuing
to
come
around
till
we.
We
found
that
sweet
spot,
where
this
is
going
to
really
significantly
enhance
that
that
part
of
argyle.
G
All
of
that
together,
I
think
we're
going
to
see
what
I
think
will
be
a
significant
development
in
this
on
the
street.
So
thank
you,
everyone,
and
thanks
to
thanks
to
the
committee
members
thank.
A
K
A
A
The
next
item
is
item
number
11,
which
we
will
be
holding
along
with
item
number
12,
and
the
address
is
5
93
laurier
avenue
west.
This
is
another
one
of
those.
A
Projects
that
has
taken
a
while,
I
think
it
was
on
the
agenda
when
first
we
started
up
the
built
heritage
subcommittee
or
in
the
early
days
of
it
anyways.
So
this
is
another
one
that
a
lot
of
work
has
gone
into,
so
we're
going
to
hold
both
of
those
items.
A
I
told
you
it's
going
to
be
a
long
day.
Item
number
13,
191
norris
street
in
council,
shirelli's
award.
We
don't
have
anyone
signed
up
to
speak.
Does
anyone
have
any
reason
to
ask
questions
or
okay?
Is
this
item
carrie?
A
Thank
you
there.
Okay,
now
we'll
go
back
to
the
beginning
and
the
beginning
is
847
woodrow
avenue
we're
not
having
a
presentation
on
this
item.
This
is
a
zoning
bylaw
amendment
and
it's
in
councillor
kavanaugh's
warrant
and
I
see
councillor
kavanaugh's
here
we
have
one
speaker
and
we
have
the
applicant,
so
our
speaker
is
john
archibald.
A
John,
are
you
here?
I
also
will
say,
and
you
probably
noticed
we've
had
you
know
a
fair
amount
of
written
communication
as
well
is
john
here
jonah's
here
he's.
A
M
Okay,
I'm
a
little
nervous
here,
so
I'm
just
gonna
read
off
something
that
I've
got
written
out.
Okay,
good
morning,
members
of
planning
committee.
I
would
like
to
thank
you
all
for
the
opportunity
to
address
my
concerns
with
regards
to
the
storm
monitor
management
proposal
for
this
site.
My
neighbors
and
I
are
extremely
worried
that
the
infield
development
will
increase
the
storm
water
that
accumulates
in
ponds
in
our
backyard,
especially
during
winter
storms.
M
My
neighbor
and
I
both
have
patio
doors
located
at
the
rear
of
our
homes
and
are
extremely
worried
about
contaminated
storm
water
from
the
proposed
development,
new
parking
lot
raining
off
onto
our
properties
and
into
our
homes.
I
hope
you
have
all
had
time
to
read
the
email
that
I
sent
to
the
committee.
It
outlines
the
concerns
with
the
stormwater
management
plans
referred
to
in
the
report
being
considered.
Today,
I
was
going
to
spend
my
time
this
morning
defending
the
claims
made
in
my
email.
M
However,
on
tuesday
counselor
cavanaugh
and
the
developers
both
reached
out
floating
a
new
grading
plan
that
appears
to
address
some
of
the
concerns
that
identified
in
my
email
in
a
telephone
conversation
with
councillor
kavanaugh
and
the
developers.
They
are
now
saying
that
it
is
their
intention
to
contain
all
the
storm
water
on
the
site
and
have
it
conveyed
to
a
city
storm
sewer
on
woodruff
avenue.
The
new
grading
plan
that
was
presented
to
us
appears
to
address
our
concerns
about
stormwater
and
contaminated
drainage
being
drained
off
onto
our
properties.
M
The
new
proposal
is
a
has
a
containment
wall
that
is
now
being
proposed
for
the
perimeter
of
the
site,
and
it
shows
that
all
the
storm
water
is
being
directed
into
drains
inside
the
new
containment
wall
in
their
discussion
with
the
developers.
They
assured
me
that
the
height
of
the
proposed
containment
wall
will
be
a
minimum
of
six
inches
above
the
parking
lot
and
drains
to
be
installed
when
I
asked
if
their
parking
lot
would
fill
up
with
six
inches
of
water
before
any
storm
water
fluid
over
the
wall.
M
M
It
was
also
some
discussion
about
a
large
holding
tank
that
would
also
be
installed
and
to
collect
additional
storm
water.
I
assume
this
tank
is
the
largest
hatched
area
in
the
parking
lot,
but
it's
not
labeled
on
the
plant.
Will
new
grading
plans
detail
this
new
feature
and
could
someone
please
explain
to
me
how
it
works?
M
D
M
And
any
approvals
be
done
at
the
planning
committee
level,
I'd
like
to
know
who's
responsible
to
ensure
that
new
grading
plans
are
submitted
for
approval
and
that
the
site
will
be
developed
in
accordance
with
these
new
plants.
I'd
like
to
know
what
kind
of
enforcement
mechanisms
would
be
in
place
should
the
developer
deviate
and
not
adhere
to
the
terms
and
conditions
of
new
grading
plans
approved.
M
The
report
today
also
lays
out
some
solutions
to
our
concerns
with
regards
to
snow
removal,
garbage
storage,
etc.
The
report
states
that
snow
is
to
be
removed
from
the
property
and
it
lays
out
how
garbage
is
to
be
stored.
I'd
like
to
know
who
is
responsible
for
ensuring
the
terms
and
conditions
such
as
snow
removal
from
the
site,
fencing
garbage
storage
locations,
etc,
that
are
being
approved
by
planning
committee.
M
M
What
enforcement
procedures
are
in
place?
Should
the
developer
deviate
and
not
adhere
to
the
terms
and
conditions
approved
by
planning
committee?
In
conclusion,
should
the
new
storm
water
management
plans
be
approved
and
the
solution
and
the
solutions
regarding
fencing,
snow
removal
and
garbage
storage
be
approved
and
enforced,
it
would
appear
that
my
concerns
have
been
addressed.
I
would
really
like
to
thank
everyone
involved
to
help
resolve
these
issues
that
have
been
brought
to
your
attention.
Thank
you
very.
A
Much
thank
you,
mr
archbald.
I
see
that
hang
on
a
minute,
because
I
see
that
councilor
kavanaugh
has
her
hand
up
councilor,
cavanaugh.
J
Yes,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
appreciate
you
coming
out
today,
john.
I
know
you've
been
you've
been
talking
about
this
since
the
summer.
Since
the
proposal
first
came
out
and
we
had
that
meeting
in
your
backyard
and
with
the
neighbors,
and
you
were
very
clear
on
on
your
concerns,
so
you
feel
that
you're
that
these
have
been
satisfied.
M
Well,
I
really
haven't
seen
a
set
of
approved
plans
and
I
just
saw
that
little
back
end.
That
was
shown
to
me
there's
no
elevations
on
the
wall
or
anything.
It's
just
in
a
discussion
that
I
had
with
with
peter
and
mr
hume
there
and
and
mr
sterling
that
they
would.
They
would
try
to
address
this
kind
of
a
thing.
But
you
know
talk
to
steve
I'd
like
to
see
you
know
something
that
I'm
just
trying
to
defend
my
property
here
and
you
know
I've
lived
for
30
years.
J
J
Something
we've
never
had
before
thanks
mr
archibald,
I'm
going
to
ask
the
chair.
If
I
can
ask
staff
these
questions,
and
particularly
mr
mark,
because
we
we
asked
if
it
was
possible,
if
we
could
include
somehow
the
a
guarantee
for
for
mr
archibald
and
the
neighbors
that
this
could
that
what
is
being
proposed
by
mr
and
mr
sterling
is
actually
going
to
be
followed
through.
J
A
A
M
G
G
This
morning,
as
councillor
kavanaugh
has
indicated,
and
mr
archibald
indicated,
we
met
on
site
with
mr
archibald
in
july
last
year
to
hear
his
concerns
about
grading
and
drainage
in
the
area,
and
we
understood
exactly
what
he
was
talking
about
in
the
current
situation,
approximately
65
of
our
site
drains
into
a
old
swale
in
the
that
runs
through
the
back
of
his
property
and
other
properties,
and
we
understood
his
concern
and
we
committed
that
we
would
alleviate
his
concerns.
G
Since
then,
we
have
been
working
with
our
engineers
and
city
staff
and
we
finalized
a
plan
last
week
with
our
engineers
that
97.7
of
the
water
on
site
will
flow
directly
from
our
site
to
the
woodruff
system,
and
2.3
percent
of
it
will
stay
in
a
small
hydro
bioswale
at
the
back
of
the
property
and
be
evaporated
off.
None
of
our
water
will
go
to
the
adjacent
neighbors
site.
G
With
that
we
feel
we
have
accommodated
and
addressed
all
the
concerns
the
residents
have
have
raised.
We
will
obviously
continue
to
be
good,
neighbors
and
work
with
them
in
the
future.
We
have
submitted
this
plan,
I
believe,
to
the
city
for
approval
as
part
of
our
building
permit
application.
G
We
have
explained
in
the
past
to
the
resident
how
the
process
works
with
the
city
approving
the
grading
plan.
We
do
the
works.
We
have
to
do
an
as
built
demonstrate
to
the
staff
of
the
city
that
we've
done
exactly
what
the
grading
plan
shows
and
it's
graded.
In
accordance
with
that.
G
Contrary
to
mr
archibald's
comments,
the
plan
we
showed
him
last
earlier
this
week
has
all
the
elevations
on.
It
shows
the
exact
elevations
of
all
the
grading
that
we're
proposing,
including
the
eight
cubic
meter
storage
tank
that
we're
putting
in
so
we
believe
that
we
have
listened
to
the
concerns
of
the
residents,
worked
with
the
counselor
on
this
and
come
up
with
a
solution
that
takes
65
of
the
water
draining
to
his
property
historically,
for
the
last
probably
decades
to
now
nothing
zero.
G
A
Anything
else,
peter.
G
A
Good,
so
any
questions
for
mr
sterling
or
mr
hume.
J
Cavanaugh
no
yeah-
I
just
want
to
thank
them
for
for
for
this
extra
effort
in
reaching
out
to
the
community.
It's
it's
been
a
lot
of
back
and
forth
and
I
think
it's
appreciated
very
much.
But
so
when
can
I
ask
staff
about
how
will
the
song,
as.
A
Soon,
as
soon
as
we're
as
soon
as
yeah
now
you've
taken
your
hand
down,
then
no
one
else
has
put
theirs
up.
So
thanks,
gentlemen,
just
everybody
might
as
well
hang
around
there
for
a
minute.
So
we
your
questions
were
to
mr
mark
primarily
to
start
off
with
correct,
and
I
see
him
front
and
center
go
ahead.
Counselor
kavanagh.
J
Thank
you
very
much.
Yes,
so
you've
heard
the
request
and
we
sent
it
to
you
the
other
day
to
to
find
out
how
we
can
give
assurance
to
the
neighbors
that
this
is
not
just
talk,
that
there
is
something
in
the
words
something
written
down
to
give
them
assurance
that
this
this
drainage
will
be
carried
out.
G
Madam
chair,
as
spoken
to
by
the
delegation
for
the
applicant,
they
will
be
submitting
grading
plans
to
the
city.
They
will
be
viewed
as
part
of
the
part
lot
control
application
that
I
understand
will
be
coming
forward,
as
well
as
a
building
code
to
be
certain
that
they
they
do
what
they're
supposed
to
do
and
the
city
does
have
a
bylaw
that
requires
that
drainage
on
properties
b
in
accordance
with
approved
trading
plans.
G
I
I
I'm
sure
that
the
applicant
will
do
what
it
said
it's
going
to
do,
but
if
in
case
there
were
a
problem,
then
we
can
use
proceed
with
enforcement
under
the
bottom.
J
My
question
is:
is
this
is
over
and
above
what
is
required
by
the
city?
This
is
because
we
saw
the
staff
report
and,
and
it
did
not
satisfy
the
community
and
that's
why
there's
a
concern
this
is
over
and
above
what
is
normally
required
by
the
city
bylaws.
So
how
do
we
make
that
happen?.
N
G
G
J
Okay,
okay,
so
so
they
will
have
that.
So
how
do
they
get
copies
of
it
or
or
officially.
G
Madam
chair,
my
expectation
is
that
this
is
a
document.
The
grading
and
drainage
plan
is
a
document
that
we
can
release
without
the
the
first
delegation
having
to
do
an
access
to
information
request.
I'm
relative,
I'm
not
completely
certain,
but
I'm
relatively
certain
that
that
is
the
case.
If
force
came
to
worse
and
then
access
to
information
requests
could
be
done,
but
I
don't
think
that's
going
to
be
required.
J
Okay,
I
think
that's
important
that
they
that
they,
they
have
a
copy
of
it,
so
that
they
can
see
what
has
been
submitted
and
what
being
held
too.
G
G
A
You
everybody
so
committee
members
on
the
zoning
bylaw
amendment
847
woodruff
avenue.
Is
it
carried.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Okay,
we'll
go
on
to
our
next
item,
which
is
zoning
by
law.
Amendment
300,
milwaute
private.
We
do
have
a
this
is
again
it's
a
busy
day
for
councilor
mckinney.
We
do
have
a
motion
from
vice
chair
gower.
It's
a
technical
motion.
If
you
just
want
to
introduce
it
and
then
we're
going
to
go
to
our
first
speaker,
dr
peter
stockdale,
voice
check
hour.
D
As
a
result
of
the
motion,
if
approved,
therefore
be
it
resolved
that
the
following
changes
be
made
to
the
staff
report.
Document
4
of
report
of
the
report
be
replaced
with
the
following
revised
schedule,
and
the
motion
includes
a
map
demonstrating
the
revision.
Be
it
further
resolved
that
there
be
no
further
notice
pursuant
to
section
34
17
of
the
planning
act.
A
So
our
first
speaker
is
our
first
delegation
is
dr
peter
stockdale.
I
see
you,
I
see
you,
sir.
You
have
five
minutes
start
whenever
you're
ready.
Thank
you
for
attending
today.
A
You're,
sir,
your
speaker,
you
have
to
take
your
mute
button
off.
G
B
B
This
all
began
long
long
before
queen
victoria,
we're
here
to
consider
the
fate
of
one
of
the
sacred
islands
for
all
nations.
That
grandfather
william
commander
in
presented
to
us
in
the
beautiful
vision
of
his
to
this
committee
in
2010,
but
the
name
muati
private
means
private
and
we
keep
being
told
it's
a
done
deal.
B
B
This
building
is
contrary
to
the
well-established
public
purpose
of
the
islands.
Entrenched
in
the
1854
ordering
council,
the
bna
act,
the
federal
act,
respecting
works
on
the
ottawa
river
and
the
federal
taking
back
to
parts
of
the
island
for
public
purposes
in
1860,
the
1880s
and
in
1926
it
was
for
the
common
wealth.
B
B
This
is
the
cute
halloween
indian
costume,
the
red-faced
red
washed
face
of
white
supremacy
in
ottawa
gatineau
today,
and
we
are
all
complicit
by
relying
entirely
on
the
algonquins
of
ontario
for
cover
making
them
the
only
requirement
for
algonquin
consultation
in
the
official
plan.
The
city
of
ottawa
has
no
credibility
with
status.
Indian
communities.
B
This
reconciliation
is
not
credible,
as
the
council
is
increasing
the
finding
out.
This
is
true.
Despite
driving
the
nearest
substantial
algonquin
communities
at
least
150
kilometers
away
from
their
own
mother
river
ganges,
despite
being
paid
federal
employees,
the
chiefs
and
councils
are
less
willing
to.
Let
us
get
away
with
their
coming
to
terms
for
hundreds
of
years
and
our
own
sloppiness
will
cost
us.
B
The
shoddier
islands
are
known
for
their
voids.
Some
of
the
developers
warhols
seem
to
stop
after
they
get
to
bedrock.
Ncc
boreholes
were
deeper
and
one
showed
a
void
below
bedrock.
We
will
pay
dearly
for
ignoring
algonquin
petitions
for
over
150
years,
not
dealing
with
the
federal
legislation.
The
underlying
federal
lease
is
taken
from
the
algonquin
and
nipissing
pretending
that
the
fake
deeds,
with
their
many
conditions,
are
freehold
with
half
albert
island
not
being
patented.
The
tax
rolls
not
matching.
B
B
You
are
being
asked
to
approve
for
toronto's
dream
corporation,
this
new
american
building,
just
two
more
stories
to
25
stories
reaching
as
high
as
parliament
and
the
city
agreed
to
ensure
there
would
be
affordable
housing
here.
No
ten
story:
quid
pro
quo
was
established
and
you
know
the
other
buildings
on
this
island.
A
A
I
Yes,
I
am
good
morning.
Can
you
hear
me
morning
thank.
I
Thank
you
very
much
for
inviting
the
public
to
have
a
expressing
of
our
concerns.
Today.
I
I
am
a
wife
and
a
mother
and
a
grandmother
and
an
elder
with
lived
experience
in
six
cultures,
and
I
will
be
speaking
today
from
the
human
context
and
the
emotional
spiritual
pain
of
not
just
our
algonquin
friends
and
sisters
and
brothers,
but
for
many
citizens
of
this
ottawa
gatineau
region
as
the
executive
director
of
owl,
which
stands
for
which
way
wellness
learning
center.
I
We
are
a
not
profit
organization
that
has
been
working
with
the
grandmothers
and
a
single
muslim
mother
from
many
diverse
cultures
and
as
many
people
will
know,
I've
been
walking
with
the
free.
The
falls
group
since
the
first
planning
committee
took
place
many
years
ago
concerning
these
sacred
islands.
I
Now,
when
we
look
at
history,
the
past
and
the
present
is
very
relevant
to
the
future,
and
it
is
very
important-
and
I
want
to
thank
all
of
you
counselors
for
the
hard
work
you
do
in
listening,
trying
to
listen
intently
in
the
year
2021
as
the
planet
goes
through.
Not
just
planetary,
cosmic
change
to
climate
change,
but
we're
going
through
a
change
of
a
very
significant
pollution
of
our
environments
and
the
ecology
and
the
wisdom
and
the
knowledge
of
the
first
peoples
of
all
countries
is
very
relevant
for
the
times
we're
living
through.
I
And
I
know
that
the
hard
work
that
counselors
do
in
trying
to
listen
to
the
needs
of
paying
the
bills
is
very
significant
to
the
choice
making
of
these
times.
But
it's
important
to
honor
that
the
perspectives
and
the
knowledge
of
the
indigenous
peoples
and
their
relationship
with
the
earth
and
how
they
work
with
nature,
not
against
nature,
is
very
significant
to
the
vision
of
william
commander
for
not
just
his
people
but
for
all
citizens
of
canada
and
the
planet.
I
I
I
We
can
hear
their
pain.
My
concern
is
in
hearing
a
person's
pain.
Can
we
begin
to
look
at
the
compassion
that
we
all
have
in
making
decisions
when
we
look
at
the
constant
rising
up
of
condos
and
cement,
replacing
the
green
space
on
these
sacred
islands
that
were
once
an
ancient
indigenous
spiritual
meeting
place
for
north
america?
Nomadic
peoples
to
come
here
and
give
thanks
and
gratitude
for
the
land
of
which
we
are
blessed
to
live?
I
Are
we
at
a
time
where
ottawa,
citizens
and
counselors,
and
this
public
that
are
listening
to
us
today,
can
take
the
time
to
read
the
long?
And
the
short
report
of
my
call
to
have
us
understand
have
us
understand
something
significant
that
if
we
are
going
to
have
a
sacred
healthy
democracy,
we
all
have
to
be
at
the
table
supporting
our
counselors
supporting
our
elected
leaders,
both
at
the
federal
and
provincial
governments,
to
begin
to
understand
that
democracy
will
only
be
as
healthy
as
all
of
us
seek
to
make
it.
I
I
F
A
To
thank
you,
miss
matheson.
A
We
went
way
longer.
It
was
very
interesting
what
you
were
saying
we
were.
I
could
looking
at
everyone's
faces.
I
could
see
that
we
were
listening
in
rapt
attention.
I
lost
track
of
time
and
therefore
my
committee
coordinator
had
to
remind
me
thank
you
for
coming
out
today.
A
Next
up,
we
have
speaking
for
the
applicant
paul
black
paul.
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
actually
think
I'm
here
joined
today
with
ronnie
wilts
from
thea
partners
and
architects
for
the
project.
Sean
lawrence
and
tomer
diamond
actually
pass
it
to
rodney.
If
that's
is
all
right
with
you,
madam
chair,
just
to
provide
some
background.
K
Man
thanks.
Thank
you
for
the
chance
to
speak
very
briefly,
I'm
respectful
of
the
time
I
commend
ms
matheson
and
mr
stockdale
on
on
their
persistence
and
passion.
That's
for
sure
they
have.
They
have
stuck
to
their
guns
in
terms
of
their
opposition
to
the
project.
Certainly,
these
issues
that
they
raise
have
been
raised
at
every
step.
They've
been
adjudicated
at
at
the
omb
were
further
appealed,
at
least
two
lawsuits
all
summarily
dismissed
and
with
comments
about
our
exemplary
level
of
consultation.
K
Certainly
one
of
the
things
that
I
find
really
encouraging
is
that
there
is
more
public
access
to
the
site
and
to
the
falls
now
than
there
has
been
at
any
time
in
living,
history
and
living
memory,
and
so
that's
something.
That's
really
encouraging
and
we're
really
just
getting
started.
We're
incredibly
proud
of
our
algonquin
collaboration.
We
have
community
benefits
agreements
in
place.
K
We
we
have
memengueshi
council,
which
is
an
advisory
council
of
algonquin
women
and
leaders
who
have
been
advising
us
in
every
step
of
the
way,
an
algonquin
workforce
on
site,
including
a
significant
chunk
of
our
remediation
team.
So
these
are
things
that
we're
we're
all
quite
proud
about.
I
would
encourage
both
mr
stockdale
and
ms
matheson
to
get
in
touch
with
me.
K
K
So,
in
short,
we
don't
believe
that
there's
anything
new
here
that
they
have
raised
these
issues
have
been
considered
and
we're
always
up
for
for
further
dialogue,
but
but
there's
nothing
new
here
that
we
think
should
stand
in
the
way
of
of
moving
forward
with
this.
This
project.
A
G
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Just
a
quick
comment,
mr
wilts.
I
hope
you
will
never
tire
of
hearing
the
perspectives
of
others
whose
perspective
might
differ
than
yours
with
respect
to
this
land.
I
am
aware
of
the
of
the
of
the
past
history,
but
I
certainly
do
appreciate
being
reminded
that
there
are
many
voices
in
in
this
debate
and
and
it's
important
that
we
hear
them,
and
I
hope
you
share
that.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
I
see
no
further
hands
up
so
on
the
on
the
report
before
us,
which
is
the
motion
first
here.
Oh
yes
on
the
motion,
which
we
heard
we
didn't
hear
yet
did
we
we
did
yeah.
I
thought
we
did
okay,
so
on
the
motion
that
was
put
forward
by
vice
chair
gower,
to
kerry,
aired
and
on
the
report.
Zoning
by
law,
amendment
300,
milwaukee
private,
as
amended,
is
it
carrie.
G
A
Next
up
we
have
a
presentation:
it's
the
east
urban
community
phase,
3
area,
I'm
not
going
to
read
all
the
things
it
includes,
but
I
know
that
counselors,
judas
and
kids
have
been
darn
busy
with
it
and
and
it's
a
very
important
piece
of
work
and
that's
why
we're
having
a
presentation
today
coming
from
rob
and
and
john
lonnie.
A
So
with
that
go
ahead,
gentlemen,
whenever
you're
ready.
O
Thank
you,
madam
chair
fellow
counselors.
The
presentation
is
just
coming
up
on
screen.
O
I
won't
go
over
the
entire
title.
We
went
over
a
little
bit
earlier.
This
has
a
lot
of
studies
all
together
the
mud,
creek
study.
It
also
included
the
the
vanguard,
the
vanguard,
road,
ea
and
quite
a
number
of
applications
that
took
place
during
the
period.
So
it's
had
a
long
gestation
in
history
and
we're
quite
glad
to
finally
bring
it
for
you
today.
O
O
Next
slide,
please:
this
is
a
copy
of
the
demonstration
plan.
Quite
a
bit
of
work
went
into
this
when
it
went
into
this
particular
plan
and
there's
certain
features
that
I
believe
are.
O
It
looks
like
a
conventional,
perhaps
a
series
of
subdivisions,
but
what
I
wanted
to
emphasize
is
that
we've
integrated
bbess
quite
extensively
into
it.
So
there's
a
lot
of
interconnectivity
into
the
into
this.
So
it's
a
fully
connected
offset
grid
wherever
possible.
O
O
What
we're
kind
of
proud
about
is
that
the
amount
of
connectivity
that
we
were
able
to
keep
in
this
in
this
and
the
chair,
I
think,
knows
as
well
as
anybody
else
that
vbss
are
relatively
discreet,
things
that
happen,
but
they're
relatively
just
discreet
things
that
we
do
in
subdivision
planning,
but
they
make
a
big
difference
to
the
people
that
live
there.
So
we're
happy
about
that.
O
The
overall
densities
are
going
to
be
the
highest
in
the
orange
areas
along
frank,
bender
and
brian
coburn,
at
up
to
80
units
per
hectare.
The
rest
of
these,
the
rest
of
the
area
will
achieve
at
least
a
minimum
of
34
units
per
hectare.
O
O
The
municipal
snow
disposal
facility
is
along
mare,
blow
road
and
on
the
east
side
of
mare
blow
road,
we've
had
a
couple
of
applications
come
forward.
We
have
the
mall
for
health,
health
club
and
I
believe
the
the
black
sheep,
the
black
sheep
lands
with
the
tumblers
facility,
was
another
application
that
we
had
or
we
dealt
with
during
this
process,
and
you
can
see
the
vanguard.
O
This
I
wanted
to
show
this
to
you
just
to
emphasize
the
amount
of
interconnectivity
for
pedestrian
and
cycling.
This
is
this
will
be
very
different,
or
at
least
very
distinct
from
some
other
conventional
subdivisions
that
we've
done
in
the
past.
There
was
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
time
put
into
the
pedestrian
connectivity,
so
those
connections
between
just
foot
connections
between
different
neighborhoods,
so
the
neighborhood
is
set
up
to
be
able
to
allow
people
to
get
where.
O
O
The
jobs,
because
they're
our
employment
lands
and
and
mixed
use
lands
are
estimated
to
be
in
the
three
3
300
to
4
700
range,
and
this
is
a
very
long
and
very
very
a
very
complicated
process
that
we've
been
through,
and
I
know
that
there
may
be
questions
on
various
aspects,
and
I
know
that
we
have
a
couple
of
delegations
of
which
we
can
speak
to
as
well.
Thanks.
A
Thanks
very
much
robin
appreciate
that,
and
it
looks
like
we
do,
have
a
question,
but
before
we
do
that,
we
do
have
a
technical
amendment
that
the
vice
chair
is
moving.
So
let's
introduce
that
and
then
we
will
go
to
counselor
kits
for
questions.
D
Hey
thank
you
melody
for
putting
that
up,
whereas
the
report-
east
urban
community
phase
three
area,
community
design
plan
secondary
plan,
master
servicing
study,
master
patient
study,
mud
creek
cumulative
impact
study
area
parks
plan,
an
official
plan
amendment
seeks
council
approval
for
the
adoption
of
phase
three
of
the
east
urban
community
and
whereas
developers
have
requested
minor
modifications
to
document
six
of
the
report.
Since
it
was
published
to
the
public
on
january.
29.
D
2021,
therefore
be
it
resolve.
The
planning
committee
approved
that
in
document
6
on
page
14
of
the
official
plan
amendment
and
secondary
plan,
section
4.0
policy
11
that
the
following
text
be
deleted.
I
think
we
can
scroll
down
and
I'll.
Just
read
the
replacement
text
for
this
and
be
replaced
by
the
city
will
require
each
owner
to
demonstrate
that
it
has
executed
the
funding
agreement
and
any
applicable
cost
sharing
agreement
or
the
other
owner's
consent
to
the
owner.
D
Proceeding
in
advance
of
the
cost-sharing
agreement
being
executed
as
a
condition
of
approval
for
all
draft
plan
of
subdivision
and
condominium
site
plan
and
severance
applications
in
the
secondary
plan
area,
a
development
condition
shall
require
notification
from
the
administrator
of
the
euc
phase,
three
area
land
owners
group
that
the
owner
is
party
to
the
relevant
agreements
and
has
paid
their
share
of
any
cost
pursuant
to
the
agreements
prior
to
registration
in
document
6.
On
page
19,
the
official
plan
amendment
and
secondary
plan
section
6.0
policy
3
be
deleted.
D
I
won't
read
that
paragraph
but
I'll
read
what
it's
replaced
by
consistent
with
official
plan
section
5.3.5
cost
sharing
agreements.
The
city
will
require
each
owner
to
demonstrate
that
it
has
executed
the
funding
agreement
and
any
applicable
cost
sharing
agreement
or
the
other
owner's
consent
to
the
owner.
Proceeding
in
advance
of
the
cost,
sharing
agreement
being
executed
as
a
condition
of
approval
for
all
draft
plan
of
subdivision
and
condominium
site
plans
and
seven
applications
in
the
secondary
plan
area.
A
development
condition
shall
require
a
notification
from
the
administrator
of
the
euc
phase
iii
area.
A
Thank
you
before
we
go
to
counselors,
kitts
and
judas
for
questions
of
staff.
We're
going
to
go
to
our
delegations,
as
is
our,
as
is
typical,
and
we
have
heather
buchanan
up.
First
heathers
representing
the
bradley
estates,
community
organization,
and
you
have
a
presentation.
A
N
Morning,
hello,
how
are
you
good
thank
you
for
joining
us
today
right?
So,
since
I
only
have
five
minutes,
I
think
we
could
probably
get
right
into
the
slideshow
if
possible.
I'm.
A
N
Perfect,
thank
you
so
much
for
giving
us
time
to
talk
today
so
I'll
I'll
begin.
Now,
if
that's
possible.
N
Yes,
please
so
bradley
estates,
community
association
represents
phases,
one
and
two
of
the
east
urban
community
and
we'd
like
to
make
sure
that
we
are
considered
as
part
of
the
interconnected
whole
with
these
phase
three
plans,
while
the
subdivision
itself
is
enviable
for
its
design,
and
I
commend
the
the
planning
of
it,
we
still
have
concerns
and
comments
that
we
would
like
to
have
considered
particularly
the
recommendations
from
the
master
transportation
study
recommendation
1c.
N
The
report
says
that
the
transportation
study
addresses
traffic
impacts,
primarily
through
possible
increases
to
the
arterial,
roadway
capacity
and
connectivity
in
the
orleans
area.
If
we
go
to
slide
two,
please,
this
is
kind
of
a
lofty
goal
in
that
we
are
still
waiting
for
phase
one
and
phase
two
recommendations
made
about
this
to
actually
occur.
It
also
suggests
that
transit
lanes
on
arterials
such
as
innis
road
should
be
explored
to
address
transportation
issues
in
that
the
developments
are
primarily
south
of
innis
and
coburn
transit.
N
N
We
have
the
public
comments
from
the
2014
open
houses
and
the
development
concerns
only
refer
to
concerns
about
traffic
on
navin,
merblo
and
renault.
So
essentially,
what
we're
seeing
is
renault
is
being
ignored
in
these
plans.
Next
slide,
please
phase
three
impacts
on
the
traffic
are
not
well
addressed
in
the
report
at
all.
It
fails
to
recommend
option
seven
or
any
of
the
other
options
of
the
the
brian
coburn
extension
as
a
primary
solution
to
address
the
traffic
volume.
N
That's
going
to
be
generated
by
all
these
developments,
and
you
can
see
that
we're
looking
at
8,
200,
more
homes
and
vehicles,
adding
to
our
gridlock
we'd
like
to
point
out
too,
where
the
lrt
is
located
relative
to
our
neighborhoods
next
slide.
Please,
current
traffic
patterns
indicate
that
the
all
the
euc
lands
so
far
are
so
far
removed,
rather
from
the
lrt
and
from
the
main
highways
that
we
are
a
car
centric
area
by
design
and
certainly
not
by
choice,
commuters,
put
enormous
pressure
on
our
local
community
roads
and
this
map.
N
It
shows
you
basically
that
we've
got
18
000
vehicles
using
the
renault
road
as
a
cut
through
the
green
belt.
It
crosses
mud
creek
three
times,
something
that
we
would
like
to
obviously
rectify.
As
with
all
city
planners
and
the
option,
seven
route
is
provided
there
for
you
for
your
reference
next
slide.
N
Please
critical
concerns
from
phase
one
and
two
still
have
not
been
addressed.
We're
talking
about
13
years
and
we
are
still
looking
at
volumes
of
traffic
and
patterns
that
are
are
not
not
addressed
from
that
time
period.
I'm
actually
behind
a
slide,
so
I'm
gonna
go
to
the
next
one
slide.
Please,
no
sorry
can
we
go
back.
I
mess
it
up
thanks
next
slide
too
far.
Let's
go
to
the
slide
six.
Thank
you
ray
next
one.
I'm
gonna
give
you
a
little
there.
N
Go
all
right,
so,
basically,
we
want
to
point
out
that
without
a
better
option,
all
the
vehicles
are
using
these
routes
and
the
one
highlighted
in
yellow
the
map
in
the
bottom
corner
shows
you
that
much
of
the
traffic
is
heading
to
the
walkley
employment
hub,
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
when
we're
talking
about
this
phase
three
community,
that
we
are
planning
for
the
extra
volume
that's
going
to
be
put
onto
these
roads
and
to
the
next
slide,
please
you
can
see
how
already
how
many
vehicles
are
using
renault.
N
This
is
daily.
Well,
I
mean
this
is
obviously
private
pre-code,
but
this
is
a
daily
event
morning
and
night
on
on
renault
and
is
untenable
next
slide,
please,
you
can
see
that
we
have
total
craft
traffic
collapse
community
collapse
when
there's
any
kind
of
accident
minor
snowfall.
What
have
you
other
pictures
show
in
this
road
is
equally
as
backed
up
what
this
means
for
the
communities
in
phase.
One
and
two
is
that
traffic
volume
has
created
a
gridlock
for
us.
N
We
have
idling
vehicles,
bumper-to-bumper
traffic,
dangerous,
illegal,
passing,
speeding,
accidents,
we've
had
fatalities,
three
of
which
are
recent,
and
the
reality
is
that
this
is
a
farm
road,
even
though
it's
designated
a
collector
being
knows
used
as
an
arterial.
The
phase
three
study
does
not
at
all
reflect
on
any
of
these
aspects.
Last
slide.
N
In
summary,
basically,
we,
the
report,
fails
to
address
the
phase
one
and
two
deficiencies
we
would
like
to
have
that
recommended
other
than
what
is
captured
in
counselor
kits
comments.
Nowhere
in
the
recommendations
to
the
planning
committee
is
it
recommended
that
option
7
be
explored
as
a
primary
solution
to
the
traffic
concerns.
N
A
Thank
you
thank
you,
heather,
and
I
know
that,
in
addition
to
the
comments
you
talk
about
from
counselorkitz
councillor
dudas
and
I
have
had
many
of
the
conversation
on
this
really
important
project,
I
see
that
catherine
councillor
kitts,
has
got
some
questions
for
you
and,
as
does
counselor
leeper,.
L
L
I'm
gonna
make
some
some
comments
after
all,
the
delegations
to
that
effect,
but
I
think
it
was
very
impactful
for
the
committee
to
you
know,
see
the
photos
and
the
maps
and
get
a
better
understanding
of
the
serious
transportation
infrastructure
concerns
we
have
in
this
area.
So
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
for
an
excellent
presentation.
H
Thank
you
and
heather.
Thank
you
very
much
for
an
informative
presentation.
You
were
under
a
time
limit
there.
Obviously,
with
the
the
five-minute
presentation,
I'm
wondering
if
you
can
go
back
to
your
last
slide
melody.
Can
you
pull
that
up
and
heather?
I
just
want
to
give
you
a
couple
more
or
a
chance
to
discuss
this
with
a
little
bit
more
time
option.
Seven!
H
H
So
that
would
mean
what
widening
it
and
just
giving
it
more
capacity.
N
No
renault
road
is
is
designated
a
collector
road.
It
has
two
90-degree
turns
that
are
the
site
of
major
accidents
weekly,
it's
a
dangerous
road.
It
travels.
It
was
originally
a
farm
road
and
has
now
become
the
highway
for
east
west
transit
transport.
N
What
the
recommendations
have
been
and
which
are
significantly
supported
by
all
four
east
end
councillors,
the
mp
the
mpp.
The
mayor
is
that
option:
seven,
which
is
a
route
that
would
continue
from
the
roundabout
on
navin,
would
connect
directly
to
renault,
the
second
90
degree
corner.
If
you
will,
and
that
would
also
have
the
the
brt
the
the
bus
rapid
transit
lanes
would
align
with
that
same
route
and
connect
people
to
anderson
75
of
the
vehicles
that
are
using
renault
turn
left
on
anderson
road.
H
N
N
It
minimizes
the
impact
to
mud
creek
takes
out
all
the
crossings,
you're
talking
about
mud,
creek
studies
in
your
report
and
the
the
fact
that
you
have
to
we're
talking
about
spending,
6.5
million
or
whatever,
to
to
shore
it
up
and
change
it.
Would
some
of
that
would
be
solved
by
this
alignment
in
that
we
would
give
more
of
a
buffer
from
the
road
to
the
creek
area
as
well.
H
Okay,
sorry
melody,
there's
a
a
map.
N
H
No,
there
was
sorry
there
was
a
map
melody
that
showed
not
that
one
there
we
go.
Okay.
Thank
you.
This
is
a
yeah.
This
is
the
one
I'm
looking
for,
and
so
I
take
it,
though,
that
option
seven.
H
N
H
N
I
don't
know
the
map
is
not
so
hot.
I
did
try
my
best
here,
but.
N
The
so
brian
coburn
connects
at
nav,
and
I'm
not
sure
if
you
know
where
that
is-
and
I
wish
I
could
point
to
it
for
you
but
okay
and
then
what
the
intent
is
is
to
take
that
road
extend
that
directly
across
to
the
the
second
90
degree
cur
curve
and
that
takes
all
of
the
cut
through
traffic
through
five
communities:
bradley
ridge,
bradley
estates,
trails,
edge,
eastborough
cream,
all
of
those
communities
that
would
see
the
traffic
move
to
brian
coburn
as
it
was
intended
and
take
people
to
the
to
anderson
road.
N
Eventually,
the
priority
is
as
miss
duda
and
these
kids
know
and
they
support.
This
is
going
to
connect
to
the
the
walkie
extension
to
the
417.
So
what
has
to
be
done
is
that
route
needs
to
be.
We
have
to
convince
the
ncc,
which
is
digging
in
their
heels,
that
that
route
is
necessary
and
a
priority
for
all
of
the
south
end
of
ottawa,
not
to
mention
in
discussions
with
rainer
blous.
N
Before
you
know,
predecessor,
to
laura
and
and
and
mitic,
it
was
discussed
that
they
could
swap
the
land
for
this
farm
road
renault,
in
a
replacement
for
having
the
road
stretch
across
as
per
1999
recommendations.
In
fact,.
G
N
So
we're
talking,
like
you
know,
30
years,
we've
had
of
this
of
development
and
and
nothing
has
been
done
to
bolster
the
road
infrastructure
so
like
the
euc
study
is
for
phase
three
is
so
enviable.
It
has
all
the
things
that
phase
one
and
two
don't
have,
and
you
know
we're
still
waiting.
I've
lived
here
for
almost
14
years,
and
I
have
to
be
honest.
I
back
onto
renault
road
and
my
quality
of
life
has
has
dropped.
H
A
lot
of
discussion
about
thanks
to
your
presentation,
I
will
leave
it
there
sheriff.
Thank
you
very
much.
That
was
very
useful.
A
Thank
you
last
questioner
is
counselor
dude,
hello,
laura.
E
Hello,
thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
heather
for
your
presentation.
I
think
you
know
pitchers
speak
a
thousand
words
and
yes,
you
know
I
I've
myself
and
now
katherine
kitts,
counselor,
kitts
and
councillor
luloff
and
council
blade
before
we've
all
been
saying
for
so
long
that
this
area
has
an
infrastructure
deficit
in
terms
of
our
transportation
system,
and
I
think
that
that
really
helped
bring
that
to
light
councilor
lieber.
E
E
You
spoke
a
lot
about
some
of
the
bigger
pictures,
but
I
think
if
you
could
explain
a
little
bit,
you
spoke
about
the
fact
that
navin
and
renault
are
rural
roads,
and
I
really
want
everybody
around
this
table
to
understand
the
impact
of
what
5
200
new
households,
potentially
10
000
new
residents
would
have
on
these
roads.
Can
you
describe
what
you
mean
when
you're
saying
that
nav
and
renault
anderson
or
rural
roads,
can
you
tell
me
a
little
bit
about
what
those
roads
look
like
right
now.
N
Thank
you,
yes,
and
in
fact,
and
we
do
abso,
absolutely
appreciate
the
support
that
you
counselor
kitts
and
the
all
the
east
end
counselors
have
given
to
improving
the
road
structure
in
our
end
of
town.
In
terms
of
the
the
way
the
roads
look,
innis,
sorry
navin,
renault
in
particular,
they
still
have
not
yet
been
fully
urbanized.
N
That
was
promised
back
in
phase
one
that
we
would
have
full
sidewalks
proper
waiting
places
for
bus
transit
stops
that
we
would
have
that
lanes
that
potentially
near
blue
would
be
extended
realigned
to
meet
navin
road
in
four
lanes
versus
two,
and
so
those
two.
Those
things
have
not
yet
even
happened,
and
so
this
is
why
we're
skeptical
when
it
says
oh
well,
we're
gonna
improve
the
road
structure.
Well,
we've
been
waiting
for
that
forever.
N
Navin
road
is
particularly
troublesome.
It
serves
as
a
major
truck
route
and,
as
such,
you
have
barreling
garbage
trucks
to
go
to
the
waste
waste
site
and
you
have
snow
removal,
trucks
and
you
have
every
manner
of
trucks
that
use
that
road
traveling
90
kilometers
an
hour
while
kids
stand
next
to
a
in
a
ditch,
basically
waiting
for
a
bus.
So
as
a
rural
road,
it's
a
rural
road,
that's
being
used
as
a
an
industrial
road.
Let's
put
it
that
way.
N
Renault
road,
as
soon
as
it
enters
the
green
belt
is,
is
completely
without
sidewalks
sharp
shoulders.
The
deep
the
sharp
corners,
which
I
indicated
are
sites
of
accidents
and
crosses
of
absolutely
through
significant
wetlands.
So
we
have
I'm
not
sure
what
I
wanted
where
I
was
going
with
that.
But
basically
you
have
traffic
using
all
of
these
roads,
roads
which
were
not
built.
N
Traffic
being
used
as
highways.
E
E
One
of
the
I'm
going
to
have
lots
of
concerns
for
us
or
questions
for
me
for
city
staff
in
respect
to
some
of
the
larger
scale
transportation
elements
of
this
plan.
But
one
of
the
pieces
that
I
just
wanted
to
ask
you
about.
Heather
is
when
paget
was
closed
prior
to
me
being
on
council
part
of
the
intent,
and
the
plan
was
to
have
the
extension
that
is
indicated
in
the
in
this
plan
through
fern
casey,
frank
bender
that
bell
court
extension
done.
Can
you
I
have
a?
E
I
have
some
concerns
about
the
timing
of
that.
I
wanted
to
get
an
understanding
from
you
what
the
closure
of
paget
meant
for
your
community
in
terms
of
you
being
able
to
access
the
amenities
on
innis
road.
N
Oh
such
a
good
question,
so
I
actually
had
other
maps
I
wanted
to
include
in
my
presentation,
but
given
five
minutes,
I
I
I
you
know
discarded
about
20
of
them,
so
one
of
the
maps
indicated
for
us
to
connect
to
urban
areas
by
foot,
for
example,
and
I'm
in
bradley
estates.
It's
a
55-minute
walk
to
get
to
the
closest
grocery
store,
which
is
sobey's
on
10th
line
by
car,
it's
another.
N
N
By
cutting
off
pages
at
brian
coburn,
we
are
forced
to
travel
through
chapel
hill
north
along
orleans
boulevard
to
access
innis,
or
we
use
renault
going
through
the
school
zone,
two
schools
on
either
side
the
high
school
and
the
elementary
school
to
get
to
marble
and
from
there
up
there
are
no
other
pathways
for
us
to
use
our
vehicles
by
bicycle.
N
We
have
to
use
partly
unfinished
roads.
So
you've
got
navin
which
isn't
finished
renault,
which
is
not
has
no
sidewalks
for
the
full
length
of
it
to
access
again
a
store
like
a
sodi's,
so
we're
talking
again
a
20-minute
bicycle
ride,
which
is
not
a
practical
way
of
accessing.
N
You
know
for
for
families
to
do
their
grocery
shopping.
Let's
say
if
you're
talking
about
a
15-minute
community,
we
are
by
far
nowhere
close
to
a
15-minute
community
and
the
and
the
cutting
off
of
pages
before
having
this
link
has
put
us
at
great
disadvantage.
N
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Heather.
Next
up
we
have
murray,
chown
and
ryan
bolton,
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
looking
at
the
the
faces
of
the
people
on
the
planning
committee
looking
at
well,
I
lost
the
faces
so
but
let's
see
counselor
kitts,
counselor,
suds,
counselor,
judas
council
vice
chair,
gower,
counselor
hubley,
a
large
number
of
us
live
this.
Also.
A
Every
day
the
strand
heard
that
you
hear
one
of
the
inner
urban
counselors
throw
out
every
chance
he
gets
was
supposed
to
be
completed
in
2007.,
it's
going
to
be
finished
in
2024,
and
we
finally
just
started
it
so
key
to
all
of
this
is
the
transportation
master
plan
which,
as
you
all
know,
has
been
delayed,
but
one
of
the
things
that
the
the
chair
of
transportation-
and
I
are
razor
focused
on-
is
priorities.
A
Okay,
because
in
the
past
we've
always
had
to
go
with.
Who
is
next
on
the
list,
which
is
not
necessarily
what's
best
for
the
taxpayer?
What's
best
for
the
investment,
remembering
that
you
know
all
of
our
our
roads,
the
majority
of
it
are
paid
through
development
charges,
whereas
when
we
fix
elgin
every
taxpayer
in
the
city
paid
it
okay,
I
mean
that's,
that's
just
the
way
that
it
is
main
street
main
street
that
doesn't
serve
a
very
large
area.
It's
a
great
benefit,
but
making
it
a
complete
street
was.
A
The
footbridge
we
paid
for
all
of
us,
19
million
so
anyways
over.
I
just
want
to
count
chair
of
transportation
tim
to
just
make
a
comment,
because
this,
because
this
this
could
be
a
community
design
plan
in
any
of
our
suburban
communities,
we've
got
to
find
a
way
to
do
it
better.
A
Chair
tyranny.
G
Yeah,
thank
you.
Thank
you
to
her
you're,
quite
correct
in
what
you're
saying
and
I
think,
as
we're
doing
our
you
know
safely
distance
road
tours
we're
seeing
it
firsthand.
I
do
want
to
thank
the
last
presenter.
I
think
the
counselor
for
the
area
is
quite
correct.
A
picture
is
worth
a
thousand
words
and
it
says
it
all
right
there.
G
What
we're
dealing
with
is
our
fourth
level
of
government
in
the
city,
which
is
the
ncc
and
there's
some
difficult
negotiations,
different
discussions
and
it's
not
unprecedented.
We've
actually
dealt
with
ncc
on
land
swaps
and
different
things
in
the
past.
G
The
conversations
continue,
but
I
do
feel
that
there
is
a
level
of
political
work
that
has
to
be
done
to
make
them
see
the
light,
and
the
commitment
is
certainly
there,
especially
in
the
east,
but
I'm
also
seeing
people's
heads
shaking
saying
yeah
this.
This
has
been
a
long
standing
issue.
G
A
Thank
you
very
much
so
murray,
sorry
for
the
delay.
I
see
you
there,
murray
you're
here
with
ryan
fulton.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
further
to
discussions
or
email
communications
I
had
with
you
and
mr
harwer
last
evening
I'll
try
to
be
brief.
Thank
you
melody.
If
I
could
go
to
the
next
screen,
please.
F
Madam
chair
members
of
the
committee,
I
represent
an
owner
of
lands
within
the
study
area
for
the
cdp
and
secondary
plan
highlighted
by
the
asterisk
on
this
slide.
You'll
note
that
the
properties
immediately
north
of
the
planned
rapid
transit
station
and
the
bus,
rapid
transit
route
and
the
station
at
mayor
blue
road
next
slide.
F
Excuse
me,
urban
employment,
which
significantly
limits
the
mix
and
scale
of
development
that
would
be
permitted
in
close
proximity
to
that
brt
station.
If
I
go
to
the
next
slide,
please
we
raise
those
concerns
with
staff.
At
the
time
of
the
adoption
of
official
plan,
amendment
180,
an
appeal
was
filed
and
with
respect
to
official
plan
180
on
behalf
of
our
clients
that
appeal
was
withdrawn.
F
Once
we
received
a
written
commitment
from
mr
smith
on
behalf
of
the
city
indicating
and
I'll
read
this
out
specific
to
the
lands
under
appeal.
We
understand
your
client's
need
for
supportive
residential.
We
acknowledge
the
proximity
of
the
lands
under
appeal
to
the
planned
brt
station
at
mayor
blue.
We
confirm
the
city's
desire
to
develop
a
mix
of
uses
at
relatively
higher
densities
in
close
proximity
to
brt
stations.
F
The
city
pledges
to
work
with
your
client
on
these
issues
in
2019
and
beyond,
and
with
your
client
acknowledging
that
staff
cannot
make
commitments
on
behalf
of
council
if
I
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
Please,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee,
this
is
a
schedule
from
the
draft
official
plan
that
was
released
in
november.
F
F
If
I
go
to
the
next
slide,
please,
so
this
is
the
same
figure
that
staff
had
presented
to
you
in
their
presentation.
You
can
see
that
these
lands
are
proposed
to
be
designated
employment
in
the
secondary
plan,
and
so
our
concern
is
quite
simple:
that
policies
and
designations
in
a
secondary
plan
always
trump
the
policies
and
designations
in
the
parent
official
plan.
So
the
approval
of
this
secondary
plan
designating
these
lands.
F
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chown,
council
leaper
has
a
question
and
before
you
do
robin
and
robin
just
be
prepared
to
make
a
comment
on
on,
I
mean
probably
easier
if
we
just
had
that
happen
now,
but
because
we
have
a
routine
that
we
follow
I'd
like
you
to
comment
on
it.
Are
you
aware
of
it
or
is
it
or
john
don
you're
there,
okay,
you're
there,
okay
good!
So
just
take
note
if
you
could
speak
to
that.
Okay,
council,
libra,
yeah.
H
F
So
this
is
a
matter
that
we've
discussed
with
the
consultant
team
previously
on
this
on
the
secondary
plan.
It
didn't
resonate
well
with
either
the
consultants
or
staff
at
the
time
they
can
speak
for
themselves
in
terms
of
why
they
weren't
comfortable
with
designating
this
property
for
mixed
use
as
part
of
the
secondary
plan.
F
H
Okay,
I'll
be
I
I
see,
councilor
deutsch
has
got
her
hand
up
so
I'll,
listen
to
those
comments,
but
it
does
seem
odd
that
if
you
have
direction
from
staff
that
they
will
change
the
designation
once
the
op
designation
changes-
and
this
becomes
a
hub
that
we
wouldn't
simply
do
that
today.
A
E
Yes,
thank
you
and
I
think
probably
these
will
end
up
falling
into
robin
or
dawn's
lap
in
terms
of
answering
but
marie.
I
guess
just
for
clarification.
I
have
the
same
question.
So
this
is
a
this.
Is
a
landowner's
led
report
that
city
staff
has
been
feeding
into
it's
been
coming
for
years
for
years
and
years
and
years
there
was
a
lot
of
delays,
a
lot
of
back
and
forth
in
regards
to
coming
to
a
plan
on
this.
E
Every
version
I've
ever
seen
in
the
last
two
years
has
included
this
land
in
this
designation.
So
why
now,
are
you
bringing
this
up?
Why
wasn't
this?
I
know
you
just
tried
to
explain
it
to
councillor
lieber,
but
I'm
still
failing
to
understand
why
this
isn't
something
you
would
have
addressed
at
an
earlier
stage,
and
I
also
have
concerns
too
in
that
you
know
in
the
east
end
we're
constantly
building
houses.
We
lack
the
employment
that
we
need.
E
We
lack
the
certain
designations
to
see
anything
except
for
a
a
residential
or
a
big
box
store
in
south
orleans.
So
I'm
trying
to
wrap
my
head
around
how
waiting
would
make
sense
for
you
and
what
it
ultimately
means
to
see
this
changed.
F
So,
to
be
clear,
this
is
not
the
first
time
we've
raised
it.
I
think
that
the
consultant
team
and
staff
will
acknowledge
that
we've
raised
this
earlier
in
the
discussions
about
the
secondary
plan
and
the
cdp,
we
were
frustrated
in
terms
of
those
submissions
to
the
consultant
team
and
staff
at
the
time.
F
To
be
honest,
I
didn't
even
know
this
report
was
coming
forward
until
the
agenda
was
released
last
week,
and
only
then
did
we
react
to
it
in
a
formal
way,
but
our
position
has
been
clear
for
years
with
respect
to
our
preference,
for
these
lands
to
be
identified
for
a
mix
of
uses
at
a
higher
density
than
what's
what
the
employment
area
designation
permits.
That
are.
That's
on
the
record,
we're
at
a
point
now,
where
you
know
we
could
continue
to
push
aggressively
to
to
get
the
fix
today.
F
F
A
Thank
you,
murray.
That's
it
for
this
item,
for
you.
A
Oh,
I
know
like
a
bad
penny,
as
the
very
old
saying
goes
so
next
up
we
have
the.
A
Okay,
no,
the
applicant's
us
anyway,
okay,
so
the
first
person.
These
are
the
people
I
have
left.
So
I'm
sure
that
you've
organized-
I
see
julie
already
has
her
her
video
on.
So
maybe
that
you
can
help
me
out,
but
we
have
farouz
wahab
from
richcraft
julie,
carrera
from
foten,
laura
maxell.
A
K
A
May
have
okay,
so
you're
not
doing
your
presentation,
no
okay,
so
we
might
actually
have
some
questions
then
so,
who
we
have
here?
I
I
read
it
out,
but
I
will
tell
you
who
the
people
are.
Anyone
who
would
like
to
ask
questions
of
the
of
those
who
were
involved
with
the
developer-led
cdp,
put
your
hands
up
while
I'm
just
announcing
them
again:
faroozwa
foruz,
julie,
carrera,
laura
maxwell,
arthur
gordon
kelly
roberts
and
their
environmental
planners
kelly
roberts
is
environmental
planner
at
morrison,
hirschfield,
arthur
gordon,
is
principal
castle.
A
Glenn
consultant
sets
on
transportation,
laura
maxwell,
client
manager,
david
schaefer
engineering
julie,
is
with
folk
chan,
and
you
already
know
that
for
roses,
rich
crap,
laura
you
have
questions
of
any
of
these
people,
so
counselor
dude
is
up.
Thank
you.
Wonderful.
E
I
just
have
one
quick
question
because
I
have
most
of
my
questions
for
staff.
One
of
the
one
of
the
items
that
was
mentioned
in
this
report
is
the
establishment
of
a
landowner's
group
in
terms
of
working
out
the
cost
sharing
aspects
of
this.
As
the
chair
just
right
out.
There's
multiple
players
at
this
table.
There's
multiple
people
working
on
projects.
We
also
have
glenview
right
next
to
it
and
then
kaivan,
which
is
also
just
a
little
bit
adjacent
as
well.
E
So
we
have
a
myriad
of
groups
that
are
invested
in
this
land.
My
question
is,
and
I'm
not
quite
sure
who
would
be
better
to
answer
it.
Is
it's
wonderful
that
the
group,
the
landowners
group
will
be
working
out
who's
spending
money
on
which
and
how
they're
going
to
be
coming
up
with
the
money
and
when
how
will
you
be
working
together
to
ensure
that
there
is
a
cohesive
plan
in
terms
of
the
integration
of
construction,
the
integration
of
the
street
networks
as
based
on
what
this
plan
entails?
E
K
Not
sure
froze
did
you
want
to.
I
can
go
over,
maybe
just
a
brief
overview
that
there
are
various
agreements
that
will
be
created
and
then
maybe
froze
could
go
over
the
more
specifics
from
a
demo
developer
perspective.
K
K
And
then
there
are
other
agreements
such
as
the
parkland
dedication
agreement
and
then
there'll
be
other
separate
agreements
where
there
are
two
or
more
developers
who
are
sharing
infrastructure,
so
they
would
have
their
own
individual
agreement.
So
it
is
it's
a
lot
going
on.
There
will
be
administ
an
administrator
of
the
landowners
group
who,
I
assume
would
assist
a
lawyer
froze.
Do
you
have
anything
to
add
on
the
actual
implementation?
P
So
within
each
of
the
development
communities,
your
parkland
dedication
should
sort
of
be
what
you're
required
to
give
and
through
your
plans
of
subdivision,
you
would
develop
those,
so
it
wouldn't
be
done
in
a
piecemeal
sense.
It's
actually
been
thought
of
quite
a
bit
through
just
the
through
the
development
of
the
demonstration
plan.
P
For
the
most
part,
there
won't
be
tons
of
cost
sharing,
because
witchcraft
owns
a
majority
of
the
land
and
there's
a
little
bit
that
glenview
will
and
so
any
sort
of
infrastructure
of
someone
doing
through
someone
else's
property
or
having
to
connect
through
there
will
be
private
landowner
agreements
that
will
be
done
to
ensure
that's
done.
P
It's
though
you
know
you
pay
when
you
connect
connect,
sort
of
thing
in
terms
of
how
the
development
is
going
to
move
it'll
likely
move
from
west
to
east,
because
that's
where
the
storm
fund
is
that's
where
all
the
outlets
are,
and
so
that's
how
you
will
see
the
piece
to
the
north.
E
Okay
and
just
one
more
quick
question
froze
you
might
be
the
best
then,
to
answer
this
as
the
primary
landowner
in
terms
of
the
timeline
we're
looking
at
5200,
roughly
residential
units
in
the
report,
it
states
that's
going
to
happen
somewhere
before
2036..
Is
that
an
accurate
timeline?
I
know
that
in
past
discussions
with
staff,
they've
said
that
it
could
be
a
little
bit
further
out.
Could
you
is
that
what
we're
looking
at
in
terms
of
the
the
presumed
date
for
completion.
P
Yeah
also,
my
current
estimate
is
2041.
When
I
look
at
my
current
timeline
right
now,
but
that's
sort
of
a
bit
of
a
moving
target.
It's
a
function
obviously
of
sales
in
the
area.
It's
a
function
of
a
lot
of
things
which
craft
is
typically
a
better.
You
know
in
an
area
like
this
probably
build,
maybe
70
units
a
year
and
we
do
have
a
lot
of
room.
P
So
I
don't
want
to
be
held
to
a
timeline
specifically,
but
we
typically
are
sort
of
one
of
the
the
smaller
larger
track
home
builders
in
the
area,
so
we
wouldn't
be
as
aggressive
as
say
the
kaivan
or
glenview,
so
it'll
kind
of
develop
over
time
and
as
you're
aware,
we
have
quite
a
bit
of
land
already
in
trail's
edge
phases,
two
and
three,
and
we
have
a
subsequent
phase
out
of
the
hydro
hydro
corridor.
A
Their
audio
on
we
can
hear
a
lot
of
background
if
you
could
just
turn
it
off.
I
think
it
might
be
one
of
the
people,
one
of
the
consultants,
anything
else,
any
other
questions.
No.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Vice
chair,
gower
has
a
question
vice
chair.
D
Thank
you
chair,
so
I
introduced
a
technical
amendment
at
the
start
of
this
item
and
it
was
prepared
by
staff,
but
I
believe
it
was
at
the
request
of
the
applicant.
I
was
just
wondering
if
you
could
briefly
explain
what
those
tweaks
to
the
text
around
funding
and
cost
sharing,
actually
means
and
why
it's
required.
K
Robin
was
the
one
who
was
making
those
tweaks,
so
I'm
not
sure
if
he
could
speak
to
the
final
text
that
came
forward.
O
Actually,
I
wasn't,
I
was
tangled
up
with
the
growth
management
strategy
yesterday,
so
go
to
defer
to
john
lonnie,
who
was
a
little
more
active
on
the
file.
G
Area
land
owners
that
private
cautioning
agreements
will
be
a
condition
of
future
planning
approvals.
The
former.
K
G
Was
erroneous
and
it
suggested
these
agreements.
G
A
Thank
you.
I
think
this
is
all
right.
I
don't
see
any
any
other
questions
for
you,
but
just
in
case
there's
a
need
don't
go
too
far.
Okay,
because
now
we're
going
to
go
back
to
questions
of
of
staff,
I
see
a
whole
bunch
of
staff
that
are
here,
but
I
have
a.
I
have
a
question
of
my
own
before
we
get
into
it
and
it's
for
mr
herwire.
Are
you
there,
john?
G
It
needs
to
be
done
through
the
the
op
process,
a
comprehensive
review,
certainly,
I
think,
we're
all
aligned
in
terms
of
the
directions,
we're
heading
with
the
new
op.
But
it's
it's
it's
that
issue
that
that
change
can
only
happen
through
the
larger
op
process,
not
the
secondary
plan.
A
So
really
we're
a
good
month
away
a
good
year
away
from
the
final
of
that
I
mean
I
imagine
has
to
wait
until
after
it
goes
to
the
province
and
sometime
next
february,
it
comes
back.
I
mean
we'll
be
doing
our
part
in
september
at
a
joint
committee
and
a
council
in
september,
and
I
mean
that
doesn't
sound
far
away
what
kind
of
impact
in
not
doing
this
in
this
time
frame.
What
is
the
impact
to
to
what
you
know
what
investment
looks.
G
Like
I
think,
you've
summarized
the
timing.
Well,
madam
chair,
in
terms
of
the
impact,
I
believe
in
discussions.
F
With
mr
town
yesterday,
they
acknowledged
the.
G
Issue-
and
I
think
that
would
be
a
better
question
for
the
landowner
to
respond
to,
but
they
seem
they
seem
content
with
the
approach.
A
A
Okay,
all
right,
I
think
we're
getting
muddier
and
muddier
yeah,
counselor
kits
and
then
counselor
judas
questions
of
stat.
L
Thank
you
chair.
I
have
a
couple
comments
and
then
I
I
do
have
a
couple
questions.
I'll
be
honest,
I
don't
think
what
I'm
about
to
say
will
illustrate
as
well
as
heather.
Buchanan's
presentation
did
about
the
transportation
issues
at
play
in
this
area,
but
I'm
really
grateful
that
you
all
had
the
opportunity
to
see
those
photos
and
get
a
better
visual
for
what
myself
and
counselor
dudas
our
eastern
colleagues
and
all
those
who
have
come
before
us
have
been
talking
about
when
it
comes
to
transportation
infrastructure
in
south
orleans.
L
The
bus,
rapid
transit
network
expected
to
feed
the
lrt
system
from
east
end
community
south
of
innis
road
is
planned
to
run
alongside
the
brian
coburn
extension
two
blair
road.
This
long-awaited
extension
is
currently
stalled
by
a
breakdown
of
negotiations
between
the
city
and
the
ncc
for
the
use
of
ncc
lands
between
chapel
hill,
south
and
blair
road.
L
In
this
context,
the
best
laid
active,
transportation
and
transit
plans
will
only
feed
cyclists
and
transit
users
into
a
network
of
inadequate
former
rural
roads
just
outside
of
the
cdp
area.
The
situation
will
inevitably
add
more
cars
to
the
road,
create
more
congestion.
I
mean
walking,
walking
cycling
and
transit
conditions
even
more
untenable.
L
A
A
A
L
G
Thanks,
madam
chair
I'll
I'll
start
with
that,
certainly
received
an
update
from
our
transportation
colleagues
who
couldn't
join
us
today
for
the
meeting,
and
I
know
I
think.
G
Judas
and
kitts
are
are
very
familiar
with
this
issue,
just
for
the
benefit
of
the
rest
of
the
committee,
and
it's
also
come
up
in
the
urban
expansion
discussion
for
lands
further
to
the
east.
So
in
terms
of
maybe
I'll
just
put
a
brief
picture
on
the
plan
timing
and
then
focusing
on
brian
goldberg,.
G
Certainly
through
that
process
projects
will
be,
you
know,
prioritized
by
staff
using
a
framework
and
that
that
will
also
have
an
affordable
lens
in
terms
of
long-range
financial
plan.
Well,
that
will
come
to
a
new
committee
and
council.
You
know
in
that
time
frame,
so
I
expect
there'll
be
a
lot
of
discussions
from
the
priorities
and
projects
for
sure
in
terms
of
the
brian
colbert
extension
ea.
G
G
O
Yeah,
yes,
thank
you
don.
I
think
we've
heard
throughout
the
process.
I've
been
involved
with
the
project
since
2016
traffic
and
congestion,
where
one
of
the
primary
primary
things
that
we
heard
throughout
it,
one
of
the
one
of
the
things
that
ms
buchanan
mentioned
was
connectivity
through
to
innis
road
that
it
is
discussed
in
the
report.
O
The
with
the
closure
of
page
road,
some
of
the
relief
valve
for
folks
to
get
up
to
the
to
the
shopping
district
was
not
there
and
it
became
more
pronounced
that
there
frank,
bender
and
fern
casey
needed
to
be
extended
and
made
there.
The
reasoning
is
that
actually
brian
coburn
and
mayor
blow
are
the
arterial
roads
and
that's
where
that's
intended
to
take
most
of
the
traffic.
O
Now
when
we
deal
with
the
broader
network
there,
we
did
actually
spend
a
very
long
time.
Looking
at
the
overall
traffic
network,
there
was
a
lot
of
transit
priority
measures
that
we
discussed.
We
got
into
discussions
with
oc
transpo
relating
to
the
the
forthcoming
lrt.
The
lrt
in
orleans
will
be
there
in
2024,
which
will
mean
desire
lines
for
folks
getting
to
the
downtown
business
district
will
be
north
to
the
lrt,
hopefully
on
on
buses
and
then
and
then
downtown,
rather
than
rather
than
by
automobile.
O
What
I
would
like
to
do
as
well
is
I'd
like
to
bring
arthur
gordon
online.
Arthur
has
quite
a
bit
of
history
within
the
city
and
in
the
east
end
we
had
asked
arthur
to
look
very
carefully
at
not
only
transit
measures
and
transit
priority
measures,
but
the
overall
transit
network
to
understand
where
those
where
those
could,
just
where
the
points
of
congestion
are,
I
think,
and
if
you'll
madam
chair,
if
you'll,
if
you'll
give
us
a
few
minutes.
I'd
like
to
have
arthur
gordon
speak
a
little
bit
about
the
overall
transit
network.
O
C
Hello,
first
of
all,
I
want
to
congratulate
counselor,
kitts
and
counselor
dudas
in
addressing
issues
that
go
back
to
the
late
80s.
When
I
was
involved
in
the
region
of
ottawa
carlton,
the
east
urban
community
has
suffered
from
a
deficit
of
infrastructure,
as
you
referred
to
it,
counselor
dudes
for
many
decades,
and
as
it
continues
to
grow,
yes,
infrastructure
has
been
added,
but
not
at
a
rate
that
would
satisfy
the
concerns
of
residents
and
the
infrastructure
has
taken
place
and
will
continue
to
take
place.
C
One
of
the
comments
was
that
this
study
did
not
look
at
the
overall
regional
perspective.
Let
me
assure
you
that
staff,
the
consulting
group,
as
well
as
everyone
involved
in
the
project,
are
very
aware
of
what
this
community,
how
it
integrates
with
the
overall
regional
fabric,
modeling
was
undertaken.
Intersection
capacity
analysis
was
undertaken.
Public
outreach
was
undertaken.
We're
well
aware
of
the
regional
impacts
associated
with
growth
on
different
corridors.
C
The
people
along
renault
road
believe
me.
My
heart
goes
out
to
them
chair.
With
regard
to
empathy,
I
was
involved
in
the
community
association
long
ago.
I
live
in
your
riding
chair
and
I
empathize
and
understand
what
strand
her
drive
means
to
my
community
is
what
new
roads
are
also
required
home
to
this
community.
C
Can
I
share
my
screen:
how
do
I
do
this?
I
cannot
okay.
In
short,
I
have
a
picture
of
the
alternate
route
that
was
being
described.
That's
debated
with
the
ncc.
A
corridor
is
definitely
needed
further
off
the
east.
This
community
is
roughly
two
two
and
a
half
kilometers
from
renault
road
and
renault
road
is
suffering
the
upstream
effects
of
traffic
heading
to
this
potential
community.
It's
understood
outright
that
a
solution
is
needed.
C
It's
understood
that
the
city
is
embarked
upon
a
major
environmental
assessment
study
to
determine
a
route
to
resolve
this
issue,
and
there
are
all
sorts
of
regional
plans
that
are
currently
being
undertaken
to
address
these
issues
and
downstream
effects
on
the
community
staff
is
aware
of
it.
The
consulting
group
was
aware
of
it
and
we've
integrated
the
plans
for
the
community
with
this
infrastructure.
C
C
Further
off
to
the
west
of
the
community
to
be
able
to
accommodate
that
demand
and
whether
it
be
through
new
roadways,
additional
lanes,
enhanced
transit
improvements,
all
of
these
plans
have
to
come
together
in
order
to
allow
this
to
develop
over
time.
So
it
has
been
looked
at
it's
an
old
problem.
Infrastructure
will
be
put
in
place
and
the
community
will
be
able
to
form
an
integral
part
with
the
existing
developments
that
currently
currently
are
there.
C
In
short,
a
lot
of
effort
has
gone
into
this.
The
community
as
a
whole,
I
think,
has
been
planned
and
designed
for
the
overall
integration
with
pedestrian
pathways
transit.
It
integrates
well
with
all
of
the
plans
that
are
put
forward
now.
I
believe
the
concept
is
if
we
are
happy
with
the
plan,
how
does
that
integrate
with
the
future?
How
we
make
this
happen
and
that's
the
challenge
for
all
of
us.
L
L
So
you
know
I
I
don't
want
to
diminish
the
great
work
that's
been
done.
I
think
that
you
know,
as
as
you
heard
ms
mccann
say
as
well,
that
the
plan
is
enviable.
It's
a
good
plan.
I
think
it's
just
contingent
for
the
success
of
the
plan
to
have
you
know
the
appropriate
transportation
infrastructure
in
place
so
I'll
leave
it
there.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
But
you
know
again
it's
great
that
you
point
that
out
because
and
well
you
know
we
do
these
massive
community
design
plans
for
all
of
our
growth
areas.
We
just
updated.
A
I
think
the
riverside
south
one
in
the
last
year-
maybe
but
definitely
we've
done
the
the
same
fern
bank
design
plan
the
bart,
the
bar
haven,
community
design
plan
in
the
south
nepean
community
design
plan
that
were
approved
in
2006
both
of
them-
and
you
know
I
have
frank
from
you-
know
one
who
reports
to
vivi
excellent
guy,
but
he
always
tells
people
that
the
greenbank
realignment
that
was
to
be
constructed
in
2016
is
now
going
to
be
2030,
something
it's
a
real
crowd.
A
Please
here
I'll
tell
you,
but
thank
you
and,
and
so
all
the
more
reason.
That's
why
I
had
counselor
tierney
who
shares
transportation,
speak
it's
yeah,
you
know,
there's
it's
tough,
not
having
that
updated!
Tmp
counselor,
do
ask
questions
and
then
wrap
up.
Certainly.
E
I
find
it
slightly
ironic
that
we're
we're
talking
so
much
about
the
area
around
this,
this
designated
area
and
the
impacts
on
traffic,
and
I
will
get
to
that.
But
I
do
have
questions
about
the
eu
p.
Specifically,
I
wanted
to
ask
I
referenced
in
my
questions
to
mrs
buchanan
that
for
casey,
frank
bender,
that
is
going
to
be
an
essential
component
to
alleviating
some
of
the
traffic
concerns
and
giving
a
connection
from
the
south
to
the
north
and
vice
versa,
as
well
as
a
transit
corridor.
O
Thank
you,
counselor
the
fern,
casey
and
frank
bender
are
both
are
both
collectors?
They
are
intended
to
carry
traffic
from
one
area
to
another
and
to
collect
traffic
through
from
local
streets.
Both
will
have
full
connectivity
with
cycle,
psychotrax,
mops
and
and
sidewalks.
O
The
intent,
however,
is
to
as
to
for
the
urban
design
of
this
community
is
to
really
parallel
the
rest
of
the
communities
around
it.
It
is
a
it
is,
not
a
it's
not
intended
to
be
a
a
thoroughfare
arterial.
This
is
this.
Is
this
area
is
intended
to
house
residences
and
a
safe
fashion?
I
don't
want
to
speak
too
much
about
the
40
kilometer,
the
40
kilometer
speed
limit
on
a
on
a
stretch.
I
think,
over
a
stretch
like
that.
O
I
do
think,
however,
though,
that
they
given
the
desire
lines
to
to
get
in
this
road
the
few
seconds
it
would
take
for
folks
to
drive
down
brian
coburn
through
the
roundabout
and
up
to
mayor
bleu,
would
be
the
safest
and
most
efficient
route
you
know,
and
that
we,
I
think,
a
lot
of
other
councillors
deal
with
through
traffic
through
residential
neighborhoods.
O
I
don't
think
that
anybody
would
want
to
start
the
principle
of
having
a
a
very
having
a
subdivision
or
a
development
area
such
as
this,
that's
torn
into
by
by
a
high-speed
corridor,
so
we
were
reluctant
to
take
that
on.
In
that
way,
I.
E
O
O
Oh
okay,
I
can't
speak
to
the
timing
priority
of
fern
casey
because
the
the
fern
casey
crossing
is
developer
driven.
Perhaps
ms
mohab
can
speak
to
when
richcraft
would
do
that
and
I
believe
the
the
southerly
frank
bender
will
be
rebuilt
much
more
early
to
service
the
glenview
lands.
O
P
As
I
said
at
this
point
in
time,
we're
gonna
be
focusing
on
our
phase
two
three
and
four
lane
south
of
the
hydro
corridor.
So
I
don't
have
a
timeline
for
the
extension
of
friend
casey
up
to
frank
bender,
so
we'll
just
have
to
kind
of
come
at
a.
N
P
E
So
that
that
component,
that
north
south
connection
will
go
a
long
way
to
providing
whether
it's
40
or
30,
it
still
is
going
to
be
used
predominantly
by
residents
in
the
area.
So
just
I
guess,
I'm
flagging
it
for
further
conversation
with
stop
and
and
with
the
landowners
group
and
ridgecraft,
and
that
that
will
continue
to
be
a
priority
it
will.
I
would
like
to
see
that
certainly
prioritized
before
we
start
putting
in
all
the
houses
on
the
peripheries,
so
that's
just
a
flag.
E
I
I
did
want
to
note,
too
that
I
was
very
pleased
to
see
that
the
mixed
use
area
providing
employment,
institutional
residential,
would
was
being
considered
as
a
new
hub
in
south
orleans
to
kind
of
take
away
some
of
the
pressures
off
of
innis
that
hasn't
always
panned
out
in
the
past
in
previous
incarnations
of
lands
in
this
area,
there's
been
employment,
designations
or
institutional,
and
it's
been
reverted
to
residential.
O
Certainly,
three
men
of
chair,
the
the
lands
just
on
the
east
side
of
mareblo
have
been,
and
I've
been
in
an
employment
designation
for
quite
some
time.
The
original
thinking
behind
it
was
that
the
bus,
rapid
trance
away
in
the
station
would
would
create
a
fairly
decent
nexus
for
employment.
O
The
first
employment
land
use
of
the
heavy
industrial
land
use,
which
we
called
a
traditional
industrial
and
freight
and
the
new
and
the
draft
new
heat,
is
the
snow
da.
Is
the
snow
disposal
facility
those
that
that
area
does
have
a
heavy
industrial
setback
under
the
d6
guidelines
around
it.
So
we
it
does
foster
more
employment
around
it.
O
Speaking
to
speaking
towards
the
future,
we
we
will
have
a
different
relationship
with
employment
office
will
no
longer
be
considered
an
employment
use,
it's
going
to
be
spread
throughout
the
city
and
residential
and
an
office
can
coordinate
together
very
well,
and
I'm
sure
that
mr
miklez
can
explain,
explain
the
new
op
in
a
great
degree.
That
way,
there's
certainly
a
lot
of
potential
in
that
area
and
what
we
see
coming
forward.
O
As
you
know,
we
can't
change
the
employment
designation
under
the
provincial
policy
statement
through
this
through
this
process,
but
we
can
see
some
change
happening
through
our
new
through
our
new
op
and
the
new
policies
in
there.
E
O
There
is
no
timeline
for
to
to
take
that
out,
and
I
know
there's
sensitive
about
it
in
that
in
that
that
section
of
the
city
they
like
to
call
it
it's
no
disposal
facility.
It's
not
there.
D
O
It's
not
like
a
trail
or
anything
like
that.
We
would
like
to
see
it
there
and
it
plays
an
important
function
in
the
east
end
in
in
snow
clearing
and
especially
on
those
local
streets
where
they
have
to
be
collected,
and
I
see
a
foresee
of
being
there,
at
least
for
another
another
few
decades.
E
And
then
my
final
question
is,
I
have
to
say
I
I
was.
I
was
a
little
disappointed
that
there
wasn't
a
little
bit
more
emphasis
given
in
the
report
itself,
although-
and
I
have
to
say
robin
you
and
I
have
had
lot
lengthy
discussions
about
the
impact
of
traffic
and
transit
needs
in
this
area.
It
was
a
little
disappointing.
It
wasn't
reflected
in
this
report.
The
report
does
speak
to
the
future
brt.
E
It
speaks
to
the
eventual
extension
of
brian
colburn,
but
just
in
generalities
it
speaks
to
potentially
using
arteries
such
as
innis
for
bus
lanes,
which
right
now
isn't
conducive
to
that.
I'm
trying
to
understand-
and
I
I
think
I
appreciated
very
much
mr
gordon's
comments
about
how
all
this
was
taken
into
account.
How
can
we
ensure
that
you
know
when
this
is
approved,
because
I
do
support
this
plan?
I
think
it's
a
wonderful
plan,
just
the
area
around
it.
That's
got
some
issues.
E
How
can
we
ensure
that
in
the
tmp
those
needs
are
going
to
be
addressed,
that
we're
prioritizing
option?
Seven
that
we're
prioritizing
the
improvements
to
the
rural
cross-section
roads
that
are
adjacent
to
this
development?
That
we're
prioritizing
the
cumberland
transitway
that
has
been
sitting
on
the
books
and
runs
directly
through
this
site.
How
can
we
make
sure
that
infrastructure,
transportation
infrastructure
keeps
up
with
the
building
of
homes.
O
Thanks
counselor,
that's
a
great
question
and
I
see
chomping
at
the
bit
to
answer
it.
K
You,
madam
chair,
so
I
think
that's
a
really
key
question
and
mr
gordon
certainly
provided
a
good
overview
of
what
they've
studied
when
they
looked
at
this
community
and
there's
a
couple
of
things
here.
One
is
what
is
the
big
picture
with
respect
to
transportation,
in
other
words
the
folks
that
live
here
in
this
new
neighborhood?
Where
are
they
going
and
there's
two
types
of
trips,
there's
long
ones
and
short
ones
for
the
short
ones,
there's
a
whole
lot
of
work
that
we
did.
K
All
the
projects
that
we've
been
doing
through
chair
hardware's
leadership
and
through
all
the
working
groups
and
you'll,
see
the
policies
in
the
secondary
plan
that
talk
about
connectivity
and,
of
course,
the
other
thing
that
that's
a
big
piece
of
this
is
the
minimum
density.
There
is
a
minimum
density
that
applies
to
this,
but
actually
what
the
developers
of
this
neighborhood
are
are
putting
forward
is
actually
even
higher
than
the
minimum
density
so
right
away.
K
K
Definitely
the
frank,
casey
shortcut
is
going
to
be
there
for
everybody,
but
it's
really
going
to
help
for
the
people
who
actually
live
there,
because
it
can
get
to
innis
into
the
stores
quickly.
This
is
suburban,
infill
in
a
very
big
scale.
If
you
think
about
it,
it's
a
piece
of
land
that
got
completely
surrounded
and
now
we're
adding
10
000
people
to
it,
and
those
10
000
people
are
gonna,
add
to
the
population
of
the
general
neighborhood.
K
But
the
good
thing
about
it
is
that
they're
already
close
to
a
lot
of
the
things
that
they
they
need
in
daily
life,
and
we
made
sure
that
the
street
grid
lets
them,
get
there
in
a
variety
different
ways,
so
that
they're
not
necessarily
clogging
the
roads,
and
that's
really
a
key
piece
of
this
that,
I
think,
makes
it
different
than
an
a
new
subdivision
that
is
at
the
edge
of
the
urban
boundary.
This
is
much
more
of
in
the
middle
of
south
orleans
and
I
think
you
picked
up
on
this
counselor
dude.
K
That's
quite
well.
We
are
reserving
the
lands
that
are
around
the
station
at
the
stations
of
the
cumberland
transit
way
for
higher
density
and
we're
going
to
keep
talking
you'll
you'll
notice,
they're,
not
there's
not
a
lot
of
direction
in
the
secondary
planet,
but
the
vicinity
of
those
stations.
The
lands
are
just
kind
of
there.
K
We
want
to
keep
working
with
the
developers
of
those
lands,
as
the
time
comes
for,
first
of
all,
the
neighborhood
to
build
out
so
that
there's
a
demand
for
nearby
shops
and
stores
and
offices
and
the
place
for
those
will
be
at
the
transit
station,
so
we're
reserving
the
lands
for
when
the
day
comes,
and
of
course
we
are
going
to
be
working
with
our
colleagues
in
transportation
on
the
transportation
master
plan,
so
that
these
long
and
short
trips
are
addressed.
K
What
robin
said
earlier
is
true,
though,
that
there
will
be
a
shift
in
how
people
move
around
right.
Now
people
are
driving
to
through
renault
and
they're,
hitting
those
those
gridlocks
and
those
those
pinch
points
because
they're
trying
to
get
to
a
highway
if
you're
driving,
you
want
a
fast
way
into
town
right
and
so
they're
they're,
taking
the
417
and
they're
joining
the
417
at
a
place
that
flows
what's
gonna
happen
when
line
one
opens.
Is
that
all
of
a
sudden,
if
we're
running
buses
up
to
the
stations?
K
A
Thank
you,
elaine,
informative,
as
always
so
before
I
have
councilor
lieber
has
questions.
Counselor
dude
asks
before
you
go
to
your
wrap-up,
I'm
going
to
go
to
counselor
libra.
First,
okay!
Thank
you.
Councillor
leeper.
H
Thanks
and
it's
just
some
quick
comments,
I'm
I'm
thinking
very
much
about
the
debate
that
we
had
yesterday
on.
You
know
creating
a
large
new
community,
yeah
445
hectares
at
the
the
taywin
lands,
and
we
take
a
flyer
on
these
subdivisions,
and
we
say
that
you
know
everything
will
work
out
and
we're
seeing
here
the
transportation
issues
that
are,
you
know
literally
decades,
in
the
making,
in
bar
haven
the
transportation
issues
that
are
decades
in
the
making,
and
the
answer
is
always
more
roads.
H
It
seems
as
though
we
have
a
hard
time
building
the
roads
that
we
say
we
need
and
then,
even
when
the
roads
are
built,
they
don't
solve
the
congestion
issue
because
they
induce
more
driving
the
and
the
the
cost
of
maintaining
those
new
roads
falls
to
the
taxpayer.
Chair
harder,
you
were
talking
about
a
30
million
dollar
plus
reconstruction
of
of
main
street.
That's
that's
reconstruction
of
of
city
assets
that
have
to
be
done.
It's
it's!
H
Not
30
million
dollars
worth
of
cycling
infrastructure,
that's
reconstruction
of
city
assets
that
have
to
be
redone,
I'm
going
to
vote
in
favor
of
this
plan
today,
because
I
think
that
the
community
design
plan
is
is
a
is
a
good-looking
plan.
We
continue
to
evolve
how
we
think
about
suburbs,
we're
not
approving
development.
H
Today
we
are
setting
the
direction
of
what
that
development
needs
to
look
like
when
it
does
move
forward,
but
we
have
a
real
cautionary
tale
in
our
hands
here,
as
we
jump
with
both
feet
into
urban
boundary
expansion
about
what
the
long-term
effects
are
for
the
residents
who
have
to
live
in
neighborhoods
that
are
unserved
by
decent
transit
unserved
by
decent
trend,
transportation
infrastructure
and
where
the
cost
of
that
new
infrastructure
falls
on
taxpayers
right
across
the
city,
I'll
vote
for
it.
H
But
you
know,
I
think
we
should
have
yesterday's
debate
in
mind
as
we
as
we
move
forward
with
the
cdp.
A
Good
points,
which
is
why
yesterday
at
some
point
I
brought
up,
would
the
rating
have
been
have
benefited
from
being
mobility
as
opposed
to
just
transit?
I
think
it
would
have.
Certainly
you
know
you
mentioned
bar
haven
and
what
I
said,
but
the
fact
is
without
strand
hurt,
there
is
no
sidewalk,
there
is
no
cycling
lane.
There
are
ditches
and.
A
25
000
cars
a
day,
probably
more
than
that.
I
just
haven't
asked
recently
and
that's
why
it's
important
too,
getting
the
very
fundamentals
fixing
it
well,
that's
a
whole
other
star
story
that
any
of
us
could
share:
I'm
sure,
brothers,
bottles
or
whatever
right.
Okay
back
to
counselor
dude,
that's
for
wrap
up,
wonderful.
E
Thank
you,
sharon
and
I'll
keep
it
short.
I
I
wanted
to
just
start
off
by
expressing
my
absolute
gratitude
to
staff
city
staff
have
done
a
phenomenal
job.
This
has
been
a
very
lengthy
process.
It's
seen,
multiple
iterations
and
the
work
that
they've
put
into
it,
and
particularly
robin,
has
done
a
phenomenal
job,
no
pressure
robin
by
the
way.
Now
you
got
to
deliver.
E
I
think
that
the
work
that
has
been
done
as
well
too
with
the
landowners
group,
I
think,
there's
been
a
lot
of
interaction
that
so
what
we're
seeing
before
us
is
actually
a
really
good
plan.
I'm
going
to
be
supporting
it.
I
think
that
the
idea
that
the
concepts
of
it
is
what
we
want
to
see-
and
I
think
it
speaks
volumes
about
when
we
create
something
new.
E
It
has
opportunities.
It
lends
itself
to
15-minute
communities
where
we're
falling
flat
is
everything
around
it
and
that's
the
difficulty.
The
difficulty
is
we're
looking
at
this
new
community-
and
I
will-
and
I
said
this
moment
ago-
I'm
going
to
be
supporting
this.
I
think
it's
wonderful
and
I'd
love
to
see
more
of
this
type
of
forward.
Thinking
for
our
transportation
networks
for
our
employment
lands
for
our
mixed
use,
this
is
good
stuff,
but
what
I
have
concerns
about
is
all
the
impacts
it's
going
to
have
on
everything
around
it.
E
How
do
we
funnel
and
we
we
keep
saying
you
know
5
200
homes,
but
we're
not
we're
talking
about
almost
10
000
people.
So
if
every
person
has
a
car
and
a
half
and
I'd
love
to
say
that
people
will
have
bikes,
but
once
again
we
don't
have
cycling
infrastructure
in
the
east
end.
We
don't
we're
pushing
for
it,
but
we're
constantly
buying
and
going
to
the
same
pot
that
everybody
else
is
for
money
for
cycling
infrastructure.
So
we'll
continue
to
press
for
that.
E
But
it's
just
not
there
yet
transit
infrastructure
we're
going
to
see
improvements.
Of
course,
when
lrt
launches
in
2024.,
that's
going
to
be
a
huge
game
changer,
but
that's
going
to
do
a
lot
for
the
east
west
connection.
It's
it's
not
going
to
do
much
for
our
north
south
and
it
won't
do
anything
for
south
orleans.
So
we're
still
continuing
to
see
these
pressures.
E
So
I
I
really
wanted
to
to
point
to
the
fact
that
you
know
we're
not
this
this
planet
south,
what
we're
proving
today-
and
I
would
encourage
my
colleagues
to
approve
it
it's
out
of
it's
in
the
context
of
the
greater
conversation
that,
as
as
chair
harder,
said,
we're
kind
we're
all
facing
the
unusual
aspect
about
this
community
is
one
we're
abandoned
by
a
green
belt.
So
we
have
no
room
to
move
through
it
without
the
appreciation
and
approval
of
the
ncc
and
two
we're
not
just
fixing
old
roads
we're
playing
catch-up.
E
We
are
literally
looking
at
rural
roads
that
were
never
meant
to
be
used
for
the
high
traffic
and
volume
that
currently
exists,
let
alone
these
almost
10
000
vehicles
on
our
roads.
So
you
know
I
would
say
this
is
a
really
good
step
in
the
right
direction.
I
look
forward
to
seeing
how
this
one
will
unfold
and
I
am
approving
it
based
on
the
fact
that
we
have
you
know
in
the
report,
says
2036.
E
We
have
maybe
2041
before
we
start
to
see
the
development
actually
finish
and
complete,
so
we
have
time
to
work
on
it,
but
we
need
to
prioritize
transportation
infrastructure
at
the
same
time
or
even
before
we're
putting
in
our
homes-
and
I
know
it's
hard
under
the
current
development
charges
processes
I
get
that,
but
we
cannot
be
playing
catch-up
all
the
time
or
otherwise.
We
cannot
say
yes
to
residential
development
on
mass.
So
once
again,
thank
you.
Staff
amazing
work
phenomenal.
I
can't
wait
to
see
this
continue
in
the
process.
A
Thank
you
thank
you,
counselors
judas
and
counselors
kids
and
yes
to
robin
and,
of
course,
don
herwier
and
his
entire
team
make
a
lesson.
Looking
thanks.
Thanks
for
everyone
who
participated
in
the
conversation
today,
so
we're
asking
that
for
approval
of
the
east
urban
community
phase
three
area
and
all
the
work
that
went
into
that,
whether
it's
the
master
servicing
the
master
transportation,
the
parks,
the
environmental
assessment,
etc.
A
On
the
item,
let's
see,
do
I
have
a
motion?
Yes,
I
do
so.
The
we've
already
had
this
introduced.
It's
the
technical
amendment
that
vice
chair,
gower
moved.
Is
that
kerry.
A
And
on
the
report,
as
amended
carri,
thank
you.
So
I
have
a
question
for
you.
All.
The
next
item
is
going
to
be,
I
think,
we're
having
well.
I
know
we're
having
a
presentation.
We
have
one
two
three.
We
have
four
speakers
and
then
we
have.
A
Then
we
have
item
seven
that
we're
holding
and
that
one
is
also
in
council
leapers
work
bonus
day
for
council
labor
and
then
we
have
preston
street
development
charge,
complaint
being
held
and
then
our
last
item,
which
is
the
andrew
fleck
home
on
laurier,
so
normally
at
12
30
we
would
be
taking
a
break
or
going
through.
I
think
after
the
conversation
we've
just
had
now,
would
you
agree
that
and
we
don't
need
to
call
to
to
stop
for
half
an
hour?
How
about
we
take
10
minutes
right
now?