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A
That
is
that
we
can
see
barnhaven
what
crazy,
anyway,
what
time
is
it?
Oh,
it's
right
on
the
money,
I'm
gonna
do
a
roll
call
now.
So
so
we
no
hang
on
I've
gotta,
I
gotta
get
organized
just
a
minute.
I
gotta
get
myself
a.
A
Full
screen
all
right,
so
I'm
going
to
call
for
quorum
of
the
planning
committee
members
council
brockington
morning
good
morning,
counselor
cliche.
B
C
A
Is
counselor
alcinteri
joining
us
today?
I
think
I
I
I
forget
what
he
said.
I
don't
see
him
right
now.
Vice
chair
goward.
C
A
And
I'm
here:
okay!
Well,
we
definitely
have
a
forum.
This
is
a
public
meeting
to
consider
the
proposed
comprehensive
official
plan
and
zoning
bylaw
amendments
listed
as
items
one
to
four
on
today's
agenda.
For
the
items
just
mentioned,
only
those
who
make
oral
submissions
today
or
written
submissions
before
the
amendments
are
adopted
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
local
planning
appeal
tribunal.
In
addition,
the
applicant
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
local
planning
appeal
tribunal.
A
If
council
does
not
adopt
an
amendment
within
90
days
of
receipt
of
the
application
for
zoning
and
120
days
for
an
official
plan
amendment
to
submit
written
comments
on
these
amendments
prior
to
their
consideration
by
city
council
on
june
23rd,
please
email
or
call
the
committee
or
council
coordinator,
and
in
our
case
we
have
the
great
good
fortune
of
having
missed
melody.
Definitely
and
if
anybody
has
any
emotions
that
they
haven't
presented.
A
Yet
if
you
would
finally
send
them
over
to
melody
so
that
we
can
all
see
them
that
so
that
the
delegate
any
delegates
can
see
them
and,
of
course,
the
applicant
as
well.
Are
there
any
declarations
of
interest
nope
confirmation
of
minutes
from
the
may
27th
2021
meeting?
Is
that.
B
A
Okay,
so
I
just
want
to
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
because
we've
been
you
know
we
were
pioneers
in
ontario,
at
least
if
not
beyond.
In
sticking
to
the
business
of
planning
our
city,
when
coveted,
first
shut
down
many
things
march
16th,
I
think
it
was
of
2020
and
we
really
set
the
bar
for
our
other
people
could
go
proceed
and
we're
always
looking
at
how
we
can
make
it
just
a
little
bit
better.
A
One
thing
that
we
do
know
for
sure
is
that
more
people
have
been
able
to
join
us
and
participate
in
their
city
than
ever
before.
You
know
they
when
you
think
about
it.
All
the
people
who
were
you
know
we
used
to
hear
you
know
my
paratranspo
didn't
bring
me
here
on
time.
Didn't
pick
me
up,
didn't
never
came
back
to
get
me
once
I
was
finished
my
my
delegation
speaking
and
you
know
parking
child
care
all
of
those
things
we
just.
A
We
really
have
a
dynamic
group
of
different
people
now
that
are
participating
and
that's
great,
but
you
know
how
can
we
make?
A
They
also
are
new
to
the
planning
process
and
and
how
can
we
make
it
more
transparent
for
them
on
what
we're
doing
so
after
the
last
meeting
got
me
thinking,
because
we
received
a
question
from
somebody
saying:
well,
I
waited
for
this
many
hours
and
then
you
know
I
I
spoke
and
then
I
didn't
know
and
there
people
had
their
didn't
weren't
showing
their
faces
and
they
weren't
doing
this,
and
you
know
I
I
didn't
even
know
that
the
vote
happened.
You
know
and
so
the
lingo
that
we
use
like
carrie.
A
What
does
that
mean?
So
it
got
me
thinking
and
I
I
had
a
little
chat
with
melody
and
then
I
I
talked
to
katelyn
soldier
mcdonald,
and
I
said
you
know:
how
can
we
you
know
here's
some
things,
I'm
thinking
about.
What
are
you
thinking
about?
A
Take
it
back
to
your
team
that
you
know
works
all
of
the
committees
and
then
I
went
to
all
the
chairs
of
the
standing
committees
and
said
you
know:
what
do
you
guys
think
even
things
like
we
don't
have
commonality
in
the
start,
time
of
the
meetings
or
when
the
last
about
you
know
what
I'm
just
going
to
read
my
notes,
because
I'm
probably
talking
about
some
of
them-
and
you
know
they
prepare
these
things
for
me
to
make
sure
I
don't
skip
a
beat
so
registration
deadlines
for
delegations
since
moving
to
virtual
meetings
in
2020.
A
However,
the
city
clerk's
office
has
advised
me
that
the
instructions
and
deadlines
in
that
agenda
annex
have
varied
slightly
between
committees,
so
to
avoid
confusion
in
this
regard,
the
instructions
and
language
in
the
annex
has
been
updated
and
standardized
to
provide
additional
clarification
to
delegations,
and
we
will
all
use
this
approach
going
forward.
So
thank
you,
chairs
for
your
concurrence.
A
Delegations
who
do
not
want
to
present
visuals
can
register
by
email
up
until
one
hour
before
the
meeting,
and
this
is
a
big
difference
in
that,
because
we
were
half
an
hour
before
the
meeting,
arguably,
and
usually
with
the
largest
number
of
people
coming
out
to
speak,
depending
on
what
the
the
items
were,
and
so
some
people
were
cutting
off
a
sign
up
the
day
before.
A
So
we
will
all
be
respecting
the
one
hour
before
the
meeting
time,
while
we
were
previously
allowing
delegations,
like
I
just
said,
and
in
fact
for
what
in
person
meetings,
we
were
permitting
sign.
Ups
right
until
the
meeting
started,
we
have
discovered
that
remote
meetings
are
more
complex
with
all
of
us
in
separate
locations
and
with
bearing
technical
challenges.
Closing
the
registration
for
speakers
an
hour
before
the
meeting
will
provide
clerk
stop
time
to
update
the
speakers
list,
communicate
it
to
the
chair
and
members
provided
the
provided.
A
This
zoom
details
to
participants
and
support
all
participants
in
joining
the
meeting
and
dealing
with
any
technical
difficulties,
and,
as
always,
the
opportunity
will
remain
to
provide
written
comments
after
the
stated
deadlines
up
until
the
matter
is
considered
by
council.
Second
thing:
calling
a
reported
vote
on
held
items.
A
A
I
do
not
intend
to
do
this
with
every
agenda
item,
in
particular
those
during
the
consent
agenda
following
roll
call,
but
where
I
sense
that
extra
clarity
might
be
needed
for
the
public.
I
will
ask
for
your
indulgence
and
of
course
the
procedural
bylaw
allows
any
member
to
call
for
a
reported
vote
on
any
item
as
you
as
you
are
aware.
A
So,
let's
get
on
to
today's
work,
but
I
hope
send
me
a
note
after
and
let
me
know
what
you:
what
do
you
think
this
is
a
good
idea?
Okay,
what
your
thoughts
are,
I
mean,
as
you
know
too,
when
I
talked
about
the
technical
issues
I
mean.
A
How
many
times
have
you
heard
me
say?
Well,
you
know:
are
you
in
bar
haven,
because
it's
so
awful,
so
there's
that
consistency.
So
sometimes
I
don't
have
my
my
screen
on
either.
The
first
item
before
us
today
is
the
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
1800
and
1830
trim
road,
we're
not
having
a
presentation.
We
do
have
a
speaker-
and
we
have
the
applicant
here
as
well,
so
we'll
have
to
hold
that
item.
A
And
we
have
no
one
here
to
speak
as
a
delegation
we
do
have
the
applicant
here.
Does
anyone
have
any
questions
on
180
metcalf.
A
Okay,
so
to
bria,
aired
and
paul
black
from
foten.
Are
you
needing
to
speak
if
we're
prepared
to
carry
this
item.
A
Thank
you,
everybody.
The
next
item.
We
have
a
technical
amendment
on
this
one.
It's
the
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
78,
84,
86
and
88
beechwood
avenue
and
69
73,
77,
81,
85,
89
and
93
barrett
street
in
in
council,
flurries
ward,
and
we
do
have
a
couple
of
speakers
as
well
as
the
applicant,
so
we'll
hold
that,
but
vice
chair
gower.
How
about
introducing
that
technical
amendment
so
that
we
have
that
the
technical
amendment.
C
While
the
development
application
calls
for
eighty
percent.
Therefore
be
it
resolve
that
the
details
of
recommended
zoning
in
document
two
be
amended
to
add
item
three
b.
Eight
as
follows:
clause
198.8
does
not
apply
residential
uses
within
a
building
which
faces
barrett
street
are
permitted
to
occupy
a
maximum
of
80
percent
of
the
ground
floor
area
and
be
it
further
resolved
that
no
further
notice
be
provided
pursuant
to
subsection
3417
of
the
planning
act.
A
Thank
you
so
we'll
deal
with
that
when
we
come
back
to
that
held
item.
Item
number
four:
is
the
zoning
by-law
amendment
for
42.75,
sorry,
47-25
and
part
of
4623
spratt
road?
That's
in
councillor
means
gloucestershire
ward.
We
don't
have
anyone
here
registered
as
a
delegate.
We
do
have
vincent
denme
here
from
clara
jones.
Should
you
have
any
questions?
Does
anyone
have
any
questions.
A
A
Thank
you
very
much
so
committee
members
is
the
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
47.25
and
part
of
4623
sprat
road
carried.
A
Thank
you
and
the
last
one
is
the
exemption.
This
is
a
counselor
cliche
report
and
it's
the
exemption
to
the
permanent
signs
on
private
property,
bylaw
mural
at
1365
bank
street
and
he's
asked
me
yesterday.
If
I
would
ask
you
to
be
kind
enough
to
allow
the
artist
to
speak
for
one
minute
before
we
look
to
carry
this
item.
So
with
that
in
mind,
counselor
kluche,
would
you
like
to
introduce
your
artist.
B
Madam
chair,
thank
you
very
much
and
and
thank
you
planning
committee
members
for
indulging
me.
I
expect
that
this
will
will
carry
on
on
consent.
I
would
encourage
you
to
to
give
your
support
to
this
report
and
and
a
rousing
encouragement
to
claudius
algero,
and
many
of
you
know
her.
She
is
a
community
engaged
and
passionate
artist
about
murals
and
and
that
carry
meaningful
messages
in
our
community
and
in
my
ward,
she's
got
murals
on
and
another
location
on
bank
street
at
charles
health
school
on
russell
road
at
sandalwood
park.
B
E
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
opportunity
good
morning.
Everyone
I
wanted
to
say
in
a
very
short
sentences
of
what
the
wisdom
mural
mean
to
me
and
there's
a
phrase
that
really
describes
it
and
is
we're
one
with
nature
and
one
together,
and
this
is
what
the
wisdom
mural
is
about:
indigenous,
with
indigenous
wisdom,
from
canada
and
from
around
the
world,
invite
us
to
reconnect
with
mother
nature
and
in
a
very
conscious
way.
E
So
we
can
secure
a
better
future
for
our
generations
to
come,
and
this
is
what
I'm
trying
to.
This
is
what
I'm
trying
to
be
an
instrument
to
right
to
to
put
those
voices,
those
voices
out
there.
I
have
created
more
than
four
murals
for
the
communities
in
ottawa
and
I
can
tell
you
that
the
impact
in
the
participants
of
the
creation
of
my
murals
and
the
communities
around
it
is
huge,
their
sense
of
belonging,
there's
a
self-esteem
increase,
there's
a
interaction
within
the
community
and
and,
of
course,
embellishment.
A
A
We'll
go
back
to
the
beginning
to
the
first
held
item,
which
is
the
first
item,
and
that
is
the
zoning
by
law,
amendment
for
1800
and
1830
trim
road
in
cumberland
board
and
in
council
kits
area.
We
do
have
one
person
speaking,
that
is
elizabeth
palazzo.
A
Okay,
what
time
is
it
9,
47.
yeah?
Well,
then,
I
think
that
we
can
I'm
not
going
to
call
it,
but
we
only
have
the
one
speaker
and
then
we
have
the
we
have.
The
applicant
here
is
represented
by
julie,
carrera
from
foten,
emily
coyle,
botan
and
connor
sutherland
from
mattamy.
So
do
any
of
you
have
any
questions
on
the
on
this
item
in
counselor,
kit's
area,
ward,.
A
No,
I
don't
see
any
okay,
I
don't
see
any
hands
up
so
and
oh
no
melody,
while
I'm
talking
and
offering
the
applicant
if
they
are
prepared
to
have
us
vote
on
this
item
without
speaking.
Just
let
me
know
if
you
see
alexa
palazzo
come
forward
and
if
she
doesn't
so
if
she
does
not
we'll
reach
out
to
her
to
prepare
a
written
submission
if
she
would
like
that
would
be
great
okay.
That
would
be
great,
so
julie,
emily
and
connor.
A
Do
you
need
to
speak
if
we're
prepared
to
carry
this
item?
No,
madam.
A
Okay,
thank
you
julie,
so
on
the
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
eighteen
hundred
and
eighteen
thirty
trim
road
is
that
carried
carried.
A
D
D
D
D
D
So
for
reference,
the
metro
grocery
store
is
located
west
of
the
subject
sites
and
the
eight-story
st
charles
market
development
is
located
to
the
east,
and
the
site
is
predominantly
surrounded
by
low-rise,
residential
and
commercial
buildings.
Next
slide,
please.
D
So.
The
image
shown
here
is
of
the
latest
site
plan
and
the
proposed
development
is
for
a
nine-story
mixed-use
building
with
227
residential
dwelling
units
and
four
retail
spaces
are
proposed
at
grade
along
beechwood
avenue.
D
Next
slide,
please
so.
Here's
the
latest
perspective
drawing
of
the
proposed
development
looking
south
from
beechwood
avenue
and
you'll
notice,
a
series
of
three
smaller
brick
buildings,
which
establishes
a
consistent,
three-story
datum
line
along
the
frontage,
and
this
wasn't
to
encourage
and
maintain
a
pedestrian
scale
at
the
street
level
and
to
respect
the
heritage
building
located
at
98
beechwood,
which
is
pictured
on
the
left
side
of
this
image.
D
So
here's
another
perspective
image
from
beechwood
avenue,
looking
south
with
a
better
view
of
the
mid-block
connection
on
the
left
side
of
the
building.
This
image
also
includes
the
eastern
facade,
which
is
the
applicant
further
articulated.
Following
the
udrp
and
staff
recommendations,
you
also
notice
a
number
of
step
backs
included
in
the
design
at
the
fourth,
seventh
and
ninth
stories
on
the
on
this
frontage,
and
the
upper
portions
of
the
masking
will
include
a
lighter
material
to
take
away
some
of
the
emphasis
of
the
upper
portions
of
the
building
next
slide,
please.
D
D
D
So
through
this
development,
we
did
secure
section
37
contributions
in
the
amount
of
738
thousand
dollars
which
will
be
provided
through
this
development
and
through
discussions
with
the
ward
councillor,
the
monies
collected
will
be
attributed
to
the
completion
of
the
beechwood
cycle
track
and
any
amounts
left
over
will
be
directed
to
the
ward,
12,
cycling
and
pedestrian
improvement
fund
next
slide.
D
And
then
there
are
a
number
of
non-cash
contributions
which
the
applicant
will
be
providing
through
the
associated
site
plan,
application
and
I'll
just
list.
A
few,
so
they'll
be
providing
and
maintaining
a
mid-block
pedestrian
pathway,
connection
between
beechwood
and
barrett,
and
this
will
have
a
public
access
easement
so
that
anyone
can
freely
walk
through
this
area.
D
Building
at
98,
beechwood
avenue
they'll
also
be
including
a
minimum
of
one
to
one
ratio
of
units
to
bicycle
parking
spaces,
they'll
be
providing
traffic
calming
measures
along
brett
street
in
the
form
of
a
bulb
out
and
the
owner
will
provide
opportunity
for
car
sharing
on
site
and
then
finally,
the
owner
intends
to
seek
leed
certification,
which,
through
discussions,
I
understand,
is
a
strong
lead,
silver
certification
with
a
potential
for
actually
gold,
certification
and
next
slide.
D
Okay,
so
I
welcome
any
questions
that
you
may
have
at
this
point.
A
I
don't
see
any,
but
I
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
It's
we're
going
to
go
to
the
delegates
that
are
here
to
speak
first
and
then
there
might
be
some
questions
as
well.
Our
first
speaker
is
chris
greenshields
he's
the
vice
president
of
the
vanier
community
association.
Chris
welcome.
A
H
Excuse
the
technical
difficulties
yeah.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
The
vending
community
association
supports
this
application,
but
not
in
its
entirety.
We
joined
with
other
members
of
the
beechwood
village
alliance
in
expressing
disappointment
that
the
recommendations
of
the
urban
design
review
panel
were
not
fully
implemented,
especially
with
respect
to
to
heights.
H
That
said,
this
has
been
a
long
journey
and
we
thank
minto
and
kevin.
Harper
is
here
for
its
engagement
with
the
vania
community
and
its
efforts
to
address
community
concerns
about
the
adjoining
heritage
property,
the
design
approach
on
beret
commercial
space
on
beetwood,
together
with
the
setbacks
and
the
step
backs
there.
The
approach
along
buret
serves
to
better
integrate
the
development
into
this
historic
r4
residential
area
venue,
with
the
mid,
lock,
mid
block
garage
entry
and
loading
dock,
the
active
street
entries
the
setbacks
with
front
yards
and
again
the
step
backs.
H
H
H
The
recent
incident
with
serious
injuries
to
the
kids
at
the
taber
luxury
apartments,
which
is
a
as
you
very
well
know,
a
city,
family
shelter,
illustrates
this
urgent
need,
for
example,
to
address
the
adjoining
sandini
type
or
parquet,
which
has
been
neglected
for
years,
in
which
we
are
hopeful.
Now
that
the
city
will
address
each
with
village
alliance
letter,
which
I
hope
you
have
received,
addresses
the
major
concern
about
the
permitted
height
and
shadowing
defects,
particularly
to
the
north,
in
linden
lee.
H
H
Unfortunately,
the
beechwood
cdp
has
no
statutory
effect
in
the
end,
and
such
heights
would
not
have
been
permitted
added
in
a
secondary
plan.
This
experience,
the
impact
on
the
character
of
of
beechwood
and
the
resulting
shadowing
effects
illustrates
illustrate
why
vanier
and
the
beechwood
area
need
a
secondary
plan.
In
addition
to
the
existing
rockcliff
park,
secondary
plan
which
emerged
after
amalgamation
pca
has
proposed,
with
our
council
of
support
such
a
secondary
plan
to
build
on
the
montreal
road
district
secondary
plan
to
cover
all
areas
of
banyi
and
all
our
traditional
main
streets.
H
A
I
Hi,
okay,
welcome.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I'll.
Just
go
straight
into
it,
I'm
a
resident
of
beechwood
community
and
while
I
support
the
idea
of
intensification
generally,
I
think
that
it
is
vitally
important
that
it
be
done
in
a
thoughtful
manner
in
order
for
it
to
work
for
the
community.
I
find
that
the
report
before
us
is
unbalanced
and
accentuates
the
developer's
proposal,
as
opposed
to
being
as
opposed
to
providing
an
objective
opinion.
I
I
The
other
midsize
mid-rise
buildings
along
beechwood
were
granted
greater
heights
due
to
the
fact
that
they
occupy
corner
lots
which
allow
for
greater
heights
to
be
requested.
The
proposal
in
front
of
us
is
not
on
a
corner
lot:
it
is
a
mid-block
development.
It
is
a
nine-story
building
that
occupies
nearly
half
a
city
block
and
that
has
no
other
buildings
on
that
block
higher
than
three
story
with
the
majority
being
one
and
two
stories,
I
am
at
a
loss
to
understand
who
would
think
that
such
this
proposal
would
be
suitable
for
this
community.
I
In
that
nine
story
building
would
be
generally
comply.
That
would
generally
comply
with
a
low-rise
community.
In
fact,
the
proposal
would
be
better
suited
to
san
lorenzo
maryvale,
innis
or
strandheard,
with
curb-to-curb
measurements
that
match
our
apparent
right-of-way
of
24
meters,
not
a
winding
main
street,
that
is
approximately
13
meters
across
in
a
low-rise
established
community.
I
I
For
example,
the
barrett
side
of
the
development
is
not
overbearing
as
and
is
in
fact
human
in
scale
at
six
stories
or
approximately
20
meters
in
height.
It
has
relatively
large
setbacks
of
8.5
meters
on
the
6th
floor,
7.2
on
the
west
side
of
the
building,
and
the
step
backs
and
heights
of
the
barrett
side
allow,
for
the
45
degree
angular
plane,
which
is
a
planning
tool
used
to
assess
the
appropriate
height
transition
between
the
proposed
and
existing
low-rise
buildings.
I
Unfortunately,
these
positives-
I've
just
noted
on
the
beret
side,
do
not
translate
into
the
beechwood
side
and
are
in
fact
not
consistent
at
all
with
the
cdp,
which
calls
for
lower
level
buildings
of
up
to
four
stories.
More
significant
step
backs
for
higher
floors,
as
well
as
the
breaking
up
of
the
facades
to
provide
more
of
a
village
feel
just
to
remind
you.
The
beechwood
side
is
proposed
at
nine
stories
or
approximately
30
meters,
not
including
the
mechanical
building
buildings,
which
would
bring
the
total
height
to
above
34
meters.
I
It
would
be
the
tallest
building
directly
facing
beechwood
the
step
backs
on
this
much
higher
section
of
the
building
range
from
1.1
to
4.2
meters.
Up
the
ninth
floor.
This
is
a
far
cry
from
8.5
meters.
On
the
sixth
floor
on
the
barrette
side,
I
must
ask
why
the
brett
side
is
consistent
with
the
intent
of
the
provision
or
the
guidelines,
and
yet
not
on
the
beechwood
side.
I
The
planner
has
used
the
planning
tool
for
the
45
degree,
hang
angle,
angular
plane
to
assess
the
appropriate
height
transition
between
the
proposed
and
existing
low-rise
buildings,
but
not
on
the
north
side.
This
makes
no
sense
to
me
throughout
this
report.
The
the
development
is
referred
to
being
generally
consistent
with
the
guidelines,
with
ample
setbacks
and
step
backs
being
provided
to
create
human
scale
and
reduce
shadowing
impacts.
I
Well,
I
agree
with
the
statement
for
the
barrett
side,
but
not
at
all
for
the
beechwood
side.
In
fact,
I
find
that
the
shadowing
piece
on
the
beechwood
side
indicates
that
the
shadows
would
disappear
in
the
wintertime
by
11.
Am
I
believe,
this
to
be
factually
incorrect
and
and
further
evidence.
That
report
is
inaccurate
and
downplays
the
reality.
I
I
Also,
I've
heard
from
residents
characterizing
the
impact
of
having
this
this
development
on
our
main
street
as
being
a
container
ship
or
a
cruise
ship
dropped
in
the
middle
of
our
community.
I
So,
to
conclude,
I
asked
that
you
denied
the
zoning
request
and
asked
the
developer
to
come
back
with
a
more
modest
design
on
the
beechwood
side
of
the
development,
something
that
is
more
in
line
with
the
barrett
side.
We
go
a
long
way
to
satisfying
myself
and
the
impacted
residents
of
beechwood
avenue.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
A
Thank
you,
sir,
and
your
counselor
has
his
hand
up
counselor
fleury.
J
Just
to
be
clear,
counselor
harder,
mikalos's
counselor
would
be
counselor
king,
where
our
our
boundary
is
right
on
beachwood
and,
I
think,
presents
the
north
side
here.
So.
A
Did
you
did
you
tell
me
that
necklace
that
you
were
I
mean
like
they
are?
They
are
brushed
up
against
each
other.
We
have
that
all
over
the
city.
I
didn't
hear.
J
A
wonderful
main
street,
I'm
sure
yes,.
A
J
Okay,
go
ahead.
My
question
to
you
is:
we
we've
seen
we've
seen,
beechwood
continue
to
transform
and
I'd
say.
Generally
from
my
perspective,
it's
been
really
good
additions.
The
domicile
at
the
kavanaugh
has
been
great.
The
st
charles
market
has
been
applauded.
The
mentos
first
development
was
well
received.
J
What
do
you
feel
is
so
different
with
this
one,
because
I
actually
think
from
a
design
point
of
view
that
minto
really
stepped
it
up
in
in
from
from
what
from
what
we've
seen
along
the
corridor.
So
I
get
the
technicality
that
you're
describing
and
just
from
what
we've
seen
over
the
last
you
know,
last
10
years
there's
been
some
really
good
addition.
I
think,
from
my
perspective,
this
one
does
add,
does
does
align
with
those
the
the
goal.
So
can
you
maybe
speak
to
what
issues
you've
seen
with
the
previous
development?
I
Thank
you
matthew.
Well,
I
I
find
that
I'm
not
sure
that
the
those
other
developments
you
mentioned
have
actually
been
well
received.
I
think
they've
been
maybe
well
received
by
the
development
community,
but
I'm
not
sure
of
the
actual
residents
who
live
there.
I
know
that
the
rockcliff
residents
fought
the
kavanaugh
development.
I
know
that
people
were
not
happy
with
the
saint
charles
development
going
up
and
it
seems
to
be
going
up
higher
than
was
originally
proposed.
I
I
thought
it
was
supposed
to
stop
at
six
or
seven
stories,
and
now
it's
gone
to
eight,
the
minto
one
as
we
call
it.
That's
right
against
the
street.
There's
no
setbacks.
The
sidewalk
is
not
as
as
wide
as
we
had
hoped
the
step
backs.
There
are
no
step
backs
until
you
reach,
I
think,
the
fifth
or
sixth
story
and
that's
about
a
meter
or
two.
I
The
new
edinburgh
residence,
I
think,
is
a
better
example
of
a
development
that
is
very
tall,
but
it
has,
I
don't,
know
the
exact
metrics,
but
it
must
be
15
to
20
meters
back
the
tower
part
from
the
actual
main
street
so
that
on
the
main
street,
it's
about
a
two,
it's
about
a
two
story:
height
building,
and
then
it
goes
far
far
back
before
it
starts
to
rise
again.
The
issue
with
this
building
is
that
it's
sort
of
a
tale
of
two
cities.
It's
the
barrett
side,
which
I
agree
with
it.
I
It
looks
I
think
it
fits
it's.
It's
stepped
back
quite
substantially,
as
I,
as
I
mentioned,
it
rises
up
to
a
maximum
of
six
stories
on
the
beachwood
side.
It
doesn't,
it
basically
goes
straight
up.
Yes,
it
go.
There's
a
few
step
backs
at
about
up
to
four.
I
think
I
said
four
meters
just
over
four
meters,
but
it's
basically
straight
up
to
the
from
from
the
street
and
that's
causing
a
huge
shadowing
effect.
It
is
a
massive
building,
it's
bigger
than
the
minto
one
building
in
terms
of
the
the
length.
I
As
I
mentioned,
it's
the
largest
building
on
the
footprint
on
on
the
street,
it's
a
main.
It's
a
mid-block
development,
whereas
all
the
others
are
on
corners,
they're
on
corner
lots
which
permitted
slightly
higher
heights.
The
the
kavanaugh,
which
is
the
highest
one,
is
actually
in
between
two
streets
right
and
it
is
set
back
further
as
well.
J
I
appreciate
you
what
you're
saying
thank
you
me,
post
man,
I'm
sure
I'll
I'll
hold
my
comments
till
the
end
and
certainly
speak
to
to
why
I
feel
it.
It
is
a
an
important
improvement,
but
I
I
appreciate
what
you're
saying
equals.
Thank
you.
A
Yes,
thank
you
very
much,
sir,
for
coming
out.
Next
up
we
have
paul
black
is
here
from
foten
and
kevin
harper
from
mento
paul.
F
Thank
you
melody.
Yes,
good
morning,
madam
chair
members
of
committee,
my
name
is
paul
black.
I'm
a
senior
planner
at
photon
plan
design
here
with
me
this
morning,
is
kevin.
Harper,
director
of
infill
adminto
we'd,
like
to
thank
staff
john
for
his
presentation.
F
I'll
keep
our
presentation
fairly
brief
and
just
address
some
of
the
comments
that
you've
heard
from
members
of
the
community
here
this
morning,
minto
through
kevin
harper
has
er
engaged
significant
or
extensively.
I
should
say,
with
the
community
over
the
course
of
this
zoning
amendment
application
with
the
community
associations,
as
well
as
the
beechwood
village
alliance,
with
the
public
through
public
meetings,
the
urban
design
review
panel
city
staff
and
with
local
councillors.
F
The
result
of
those
meetings
has
resulted
in
significant
changes
to
the
building
since
its
original
inception
and
results
in
the
building
before
you
today,
which,
in
my
opinion,
is
highly
articulated
and
contextually
sensitive
building,
that's
appropriate
for
the
site
and
will
provide
a
significant
intensification
along
a
target
area
for
intensification
within
the
city.
F
Next
slide,
please
thank
you.
So
we
heard
from
we
heard
from
john
on
the
location
of
the
site.
It
is
along
the
I'll
call
it
the
south
side
of
beechwood
avenue
between
loya
and
st
charles.
It
is
a
mid-block
site,
as
we've
just
heard,
but
it
is
along
a
corridor
that
is
experiencing
significant
change
and
next
slide.
F
So
the
proposal
is
a
nine-story
building
227
units
with
158
underground
parking
spaces.
It
is
divided
into
sort
of
two
wings
with
a
connecting
element
with
wings
on
beechwood
and
barrett
street.
Here
you
can
see
the
corridor
yellow
buildings
represent
buildings,
either
under
construction
in
the
case
of
saint
charles
market
or
already
built.
So
those
include
the
kavanaugh,
the
minto
minto
one.
I
guess
as
well
as
some
other
more
older
buildings
that
have
been
in
existence
and
are
taller.
F
F
The
site
is
a
designated
traditional
main
street,
which,
as
we've
heard,
is
a
target
area
for
intensification.
It
also
in
the
official
plan
is
recognized
as
supporting
mid-rise
building
heights
of
five
to
nine
stories,
and
it
calls
for
developments
to
be
compact,
mixed-use
and
pedestrian-oriented.
F
The
property
is
also
subject
to
the
beechwood
cdp
and
is
within
the
village
mixed
use
area,
and
the
cdp
speaks
to
buildings
generally
being
within
four
to
six
stories,
as
we've
heard,
but
does
recognize
that
greater
intensification
is
will
be
considered
in
certain
conditions
and
those
were
aligned
in
the
staff
report
as
well,
but
include
things
like
access
to
sunlight,
being
maintained,
complementing
the
character,
the
village
character,
as
well
as
vertical
distinctions
within
the
building.
Next
slide,
please
so,
as
we've
seen.
F
If
this
is
the
beechwood
avenue
frontage
of
the
building,
which
is
highly
articulated
with
setbacks,
like
was
mentioned
above
the
third
story
above
the
six
story
and
above
the
eight
story
setting
the
nine
story
portion
of
the
building
back,
a
total
of
nine
meters
from
the
property
line.
The
ground
floor
of
the
building
also
features
a
four
and
a
half
meter
setback
to
accommodate
a
cycle
track
and
wide
pedestrian
sidewalk.
F
So
addressing
some
of
the
comments
that
the
last
speaker
noted
to
create
a
really
what
we
hope
will
be
an
excellent
public
realm
along
the
frontage
with
retail
spaces,
animating
the
sidewalk
and
and
a
specifically
a
retail
space
at
the
at
the
corner
of
the
building
adjacent
to
the
heritage,
building
at
98
beechwood
and
then
proposed
mid-block
connection
through
to
brett
street
in
terms
of
shadow
impacts.
Just
looking
at
the
next
slide.
F
So
we
have
examined
the
shadow
impacts
as
with
any
development
application,
with
fair
bit
of
detail,
specifically
with
the
properties
along
command
away
and
douglas
avenue.
Here
you
can
see
in
the
fall
and
spring
shadows.
Those
properties
are
out
of
shadow
by
10
am
next
slide
in
the
summer
months
or
sorry
in
the
winter.
Those
properties
are
out
of
shadow
by
by
noon
approximately
and
then
looking
at
the
north
side
of
beechwood
avenue
on
the
next
slide
and
the
sidewalk
there.
F
F
I
believe
that
was
my
time
melody.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
on
any
of
these
points
or
others.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Counselor
leaper,.
G
A
quick
question:
paul:
can
you
show
me
the
west
elevation
we've
been
taking
a
look
at
beechwood,
but
I
just
want
to
try
to
understand
those
setbacks.
A
bit
better.
F
So
I
am
afraid
I
don't
have
that
in
my
presentation.
I
can
tell
you
that
on
that
west
side,
the
building
does
feature
similar
articulation,
so
the
three-story
brick
podium.
That's
present
along
beechwood
wraps
around
the
corner,
with
a
setback
above
the
third
story
of
2.9
meters
and
above
the
six-story
of
2.4
meters,
up
to
the
nine-story
portion.
F
G
I
guess
my
what
I
was
hoping
to
see
was
the
beechwood
frontage
that
you're
showing
us
with
the
three-dimensional
rendering
seems
to
show
you
know
a
fair
bit
of
reticulation
on
there,
but
each
one
of
those
step
backs
at
least
as
far
as
the
zoning
schedule
shows
is
relatively
minimal.
You
know
it's
I'm
looking
at
it
a
meter
and
a
half
a
meter
and
a
half.
G
I'm
really
concerned
that
this
one
is
going
to
be,
as
mr
miklos
described,
going
up
nine
stories
almost
without
relief,
and
so
I'm
trying
to
get
a
feel
for
what
those
you
know,
1.6
and
then
1.5
step
backs
are
actually
going
to
feel
like
and
we're.
C
G
Getting
that
from
the
three-dimensional
rendering
that
we're
seeing
from
the
beechwood
side-
and
of
course
you
know-
this
is
an
even
narrower
right-of-way
than
we
have
on
wellington
street,
for
example-
and
you
know
we're
forever
trying
to
avoid
the
same
mistake
that
was
made
with
the
property
between
hillson
and
and
island
park.
I'm
worried
that
this
one
is
just
going
straight
up.
A
And
I
can,
I
just
suggest
I
think,
in
the
package
that
john
bernier
presented,
there
was
a
better
shot
from
the
west
side.
A
At
least
it
showed
the
heritage
building
to
the
left
to
the
west,
yeah
that
that
stuck
out
in
my
mind
as
giving,
I
think
you
know
a
good
concept
of
what
you're
asking
about
right.
Now,
council,
vapor.
G
Yeah,
it's
the
3d
is
always
tricky,
and
this
is
a
mid
block
at
nine
stories,
and
you
know
I
can
understand
nine
stories
at
the
at
a
gateway
corner
and
I'll
probably
be
supporting
one
of
those
it's
coming
up,
probably
relatively
soon
but
mid
block.
Nine
stories
is
a
lot
to
ask
the
street
to
take
particularly
on
such
a
narrow
right-of-way.
G
J
F
F
However,
the
building
is
like
I
mentioned,
set
back
a
fair
bit
from
and
providing
a
significantly
wider
sidewalk
than
would
exist
today,
and
then
the
really
the
three-story
datum
line,
we've
worked
through
with
udrp
and
with
staff,
is
intended
to
provide
that
sort
of
at
great
experience
of
pedestrian
character,
which,
as
you'll
note
council
leaper
in
the
traditional
main
street,
it
calls
for
a
setback
above
the
above
the
four-story
as
minimum,
so
we're
providing
that
at
the
third
story
and
then
in
certain
areas
that
setback
is
provided
at
a
almost
a
three
meter
step
back
in
other
areas.
F
It
is
reduced
to
1.25
and
that's
really
to
provide
further
articulation
to
the
building
and
to
provide
further
interest
in
the
facade,
but
it
does
provide
a
significant
separation
to
anything
above
six
stories.
So
there
is
a
three
meter
setback
to
anything
above
the
sixth
story,
pushing
and
pushing
even
further
back
for
the
ninth
story
as
well.
A
F
A
I
see
that
mr
bernier
had
his
hand
up,
but
I
can't
go
to
you
until
we're
we're.
You
know
we
just
have
our
rules,
so
I
will
go
to
you.
If
there
are
no
other
questions.
Are
you
is
that
it
for
you,
council,
leaper,
sorry
to
interrupt.
A
You,
okay
and
kevin
john
was
was
speaking
for
both
of
you.
A
C
Well,
yeah,
I
think
john
and
and
paul
have
have
covered
the
details
of
this
very
well
I'll,
be
very
brief.
I
have
I
have
a
couple
of
minor
comments,
so.
C
It's
also
expensive
and
it's
time
consuming
for
a
lot
of
reasons.
It
demands
strong
commitment
to
community
engagement.
It
demands
significant
contribution
to
the
public
realm.
It
demands
quality,
architectural
design
and
materials,
and
it
demands
an
appropriate
transition
to
the
surrounding
streets
and
buildings,
and
this
is
a
lot
to
demand
of
any
project,
and
you
see
this
every
other
week,
but
I
don't,
I
don't
think
that's
to
say
that
it
cannot
be
achieved
and
I'd
like
to
think
that
we've
dotted
the
eyes
and
and
crossed
the
t's
on
this
one.
A
I
don't
see
any
more
hands
up,
so
thank
you
for
everyone
who
is
speaking
today
and
now
I
I'll
go
to
john
bernier
the
planner.
He
had
something
to
say
and
then
go
ahead,
and
then
council
fleury
has
this
hand
up
john.
D
D
A
point
of
clarification,
the
madam
chair
of
the
council,
I
mentioned
the
setbacks
and
the
zoning
schedule.
Well,
these
setbacks,
sorry
step
backs
and
setbacks
actually
represent
minimums.
D
So
the
the
actual
design
of
the
building
itself
will
be
slightly
step
back
further
than
what's
shown
on
that
schedule,
obviously
not
used
by
a
significant
amount,
but.
J
E
A
We
have
vice
chair
gower
and
then
I'm
going
to
go
to
you
and
resp
and
and
questions
and
and
wrap
up
counselor
vice
chair
gower.
C
Yeah
I
just
haven't.
I
have
a
quick
question
about
the
section
37,
so
it's
738
000
that
will
go
towards
cycling
and
I
understand
part
of
that's
a
cycle
track
basically
in
front
of
the
building.
But
could
you
clarify,
like
I'm,
not
clear
on
where
exactly
the
cycle
tracks
going
to
be
installed?
Is
it
the
entire
block
or
just
part
of
the.
D
So
we
are
working
with.
A
D
A
D
Minto
is
going
to
be
building
entire,
their
entire
length
width
of
their
property,
plus
the
heritage
of
them.
C
And
just
procedurally
are
the
details
around
that
determined
through
this
zoning,
or
is
that
through
the
site
plan
or
what
stage
of
the
process
do
you
actually
determine
exactly
how
that
money
gets
spent
in
relation
to
the
psychopath
or
other
aspects
of
this.
D
That'll
be
determined
through
site
plan,
the
design
of
that
we
pretty
much
have
a
solid
design
selected
for
the
frontage,
we're
just
going
through
the
cycling
team
to
determine
how
the
cycle
track
should
look
like
look
in
front
of
the
quickie
building
to
the
west.
A
J
Madam
chair,
I
I
recognize
all
of
the
the
zoning
provisions.
I
I
I
take
a
bigger
look
at
the
corridor,
so
there
is,
as
beechwood
is
a
main
street.
There
is
a
protected
viewplane
from
poets
hill,
which
is
at
the
beechwood
cemetery
to
the
peace
tower
and
that
has
really
guided
and
will
guide
what
is
permitted
along
the
corridor.
We've
seen
where
developments
have
happened,
where
they're
happening,
how
buildings
are
shaped
and
so
on.
J
Based
on
that
viewpoint,
I
think
we've
generally
benefited
from
increase
in
commercial
spaces
ground
floor
we've
increased
the
population
along
beechwood
which
have
all
been
well
received
in
this
particular
context.
I
want
to
bring
to
your
attention
a
few
things,
one
which
is
the
current
status
of
the
property,
and
I
hate
to
go
back
pre-mental
ownership,
but
there
are
a
couple
of
properties
that
have
that
have
historic
consideration.
J
If,
if
you
recall
the
lozone
family,
which
unfortunately
is,
is
the
the
the
father
is
deceased,
but
he
was
the
they
were.
The
owners
of
that
site
there'd
been
a
number
of
vacancies.
There'd
been
a
number
of
vacant
vacant
sites
to
the
lot.
We
want
to
see
a
complete
main
street
with
commercial
ground
floor.
That's
what
that's
what
this
project's
all
about!
I'm
really
happy
to
see
that
minto
is
going
back
to
rental
environments.
This
is
a
rental
building.
J
This
is
a
rental
building
on
a
main
street,
a
very
desirable
main
street
in
ottawa.
The
provisions
of
you
know
there's
a
couple
of
additional
heights.
It's
to
make
the
proforma
work.
I
know
it's
mid-block,
but
there
is
a
protected
heritage
building
to
the
to
the
east,
so
there's
very
limited
development
rights,
and
you
know
I
was
worried
that
minto
was
trying
to
capture
it
because
you
didn't,
we
didn't
want
to
lose.
What
was
the
old
el
nison?
J
That
building
is
protected?
They
moved
it
back,
so
there's
also
a
plaza
in
between
that
heritage,
building
and
the
building
itself,
and
then,
on
the
other
side,
it's
a
quickie.
It's
a
one-story
quickie
with
front
yard
parking
so
that
that's
kind
of
the
southern
southern
components
to
the
lot.
It's
it's
an
important.
It's
an
important
service,
the
kind
of
grocery
corner
store
condition,
but
there's
limited
they
haven't
been
able
to
acquire
it.
J
So
you
know
I
there's
always
issues
with
applications,
but
I
I
wanna
I
want
to
applaud
kevin
and
the
group
I
think
they've
they've
made
this
project
work.
They've
worked
well
with
the
community
and,
from
my
perspective,
the
last
kind
of
tie-in,
which
was
I
was
super
happy
with,
and
I
want
to
thank
john
about.
J
A
Okay.
Now
ms
stephanie
was
I
reading
correctly.
The
note
that
we
got
from
alexander
that
is
there
a
change
to
the
technical
amendment.
C
Yes
discovered
a
typo
in
one
of
the
section
numbers,
so
it's
just
fixing
one
character,
but
it
doesn't
change
any
of
the
other
content.
C
A
Okay,
so
we
have
the
technical
amendment
with
a
very,
very
small
change
to
it
and
I'm
going
to
call
a
reported
vote
on
the
item
itself,
but
not
on
the
technical
amendment.
So
on
the
technical
amendment
committee
members
is
that
carrie.
A
Okay,
so
on
on
the
the
item
itself,
which
is
zoning
by
law,
amendment
for
78,
84,
86
and
88,
beechwood
avenue
and
69
73
77,
81,
85,
89
and
93
barrett
street,
and
that
is
as
amended,
I'm
going
to
call
it
for
recorded
vote
council
blockington.
G
J
H
A
I
don't
think
councilor.
Al
shanteria
is
here:
okay,
vice
chair,
gower,.
C
A
That
is
all
she
wrote
today,
so
we
have
no
one
camera
items.
Any
notices
of
motion
from
anyone,
no.
A
A
A
Melody
how
many
meetings
are
we
just
having
one
meeting
in
july
july
july,
8th
it's
on
the
horizon?
Okay,
everyone
have
a
great
day
thanks
jen.
Thank
you.
Everyone
good
day,
everyone.