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Standing Committee on Environmental Protection, Water and Waste Management Meeting - 19 October 2021
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G
Okay,
perfect
thanks
everyone.
My
name
is
janice
ashworth,
I'm
with
the
climate
change
and
resiliency
unit
at
the
city
of
ottawa,
just
to
give
a
summary
here,
I'll,
be
speaking
about
the
better
buildings
ottawa
strategy
and
its
associated
program,
which
we're
calling
the
benchmarking
and
auditing
program.
G
So
you
can
go
ahead
to
the
next
slide
chris,
so
here
you're,
seeing
a
graph
of
where
are
the
reductions
within
the
part
3
building
space.
So
when
we
say
part
3,
we
mean,
as
defined
under
the
ontario
building
code,
so
that's
buildings
that
are
higher
than
three
stories
or
higher
than
four
stories
I
should
say
so.
It
includes
apartments,
office,
buildings
and
commercial
buildings,
as
well
as
industrial
and
institutional
buildings.
G
When
we
look
at
ottawa's
portfolio
of
buildings
in
that
part,
three
definition:
we
see
that
this,
this
green
bar
at
the
top,
the
wide
and
wedge
at
the
top,
are
predominantly
office
buildings.
So
ottawa
has
a
lot
of
office
and
commercial
space
more
so
than
apartments
or
condominiums,
and
and
that's
really
where
we
need
to
be
focusing
our
our
efforts
on
reductions,
because
this
wedge
represents
where
the
reductions
will
come
from.
G
G
So
what
this
is
saying
is
that
by
2040
effectively
all
the
buildings
within
our
portfolio,
so
95
or
98
of
private
buildings
in
ottawa
need
to
be
retrofitted
to
a
deep
level.
So
what
we
mean
by
deep
in
that
case
is
60
thermal
reductions,
so
50
to
60
heat
and
energy
savings,
as
well
as
30
electrical
savings
before
any
sort
of
fuel
switching
of
our
heating
load.
G
So
that's
very
deep
retrofits
and
right
now
we're
only
seeing
you
know
less
than
one
percent
retrofit
rates
per
year
and
we
need
to
be
achieving
about
five
percent
per
year
in
order
to
to
achieve
these
targets.
So
that's
a
significant
increase
in
the
in
the
retrofit
rate
per
year
and
as
well
as
the
depth
of
those
of
those
energy
conservation
measures.
So
that's
where
the
city
is
able
to
focus
its
efforts.
G
We've
broken
this
down
as
well
by
by
heat
pumps,
equipment
that
needs
to
be
installed,
in
particular
heat
pumps
and
electric
hot
water
heaters.
So
we've
got
fairly
significant
numbers:
83
000
heat
pumps
installed
in
apartments
by
2040
and
about
73
percent
of
heating
load
being
met
by
heat
pumps
across
the
commercial
and
industrial
space
by
2050..
G
So
next
slide
in
developing
our
strategy.
We
followed
the
market
transformation
theory
approach
and
what
that
really
means
is
to
start
with
voluntary
targets
and
voluntary
measures.
As
you're
building
momentum,
you
get
those
early
adopters
on
board.
When
you
get
to
mass
adoption,
you
move
to
regulatory
approaches,
regulations
and
standards,
so
we
can
use
incentives,
support
and
financing
in
order
to
sort
of
shift
that
curve.
G
G
We've
done
consultations
on
this
strategy
and
we've
had
presentations
and
meetings
starting
back
in
two
years
ago,
or
so
we've
been
having
discussions
as
well
as
during
the
energy
evolution
sounding
board
conversations
this
these
types
of
topics
came
up,
but
specifically
on
the
strategy
for
the
last
couple
of
years.
We've
done
two
public
surveys.
In
that
time,
we've
circulated
drafts
of
the
rip
of
the
strategy.
We've
targeted
that
engagement
at
building
owners,
property
managers,
building
occupants
and
service
providers,
and
so
far
generally
support
has
been
support,
has
been
generally
positive.
G
G
So
in
summation
of
the
strategy,
it's
made
up
of
five
steps:
benchmarking
and
disclosure,
marketing
and
education
and
training,
coordinate,
coordinating
and
supporting
accelerated
retrofits.
So
through
financing
and
and
bulk
arrangements,
number
four
is
energy,
retrofit
standards
and
regulations
and
then
number
five
is
senior
government
engagement.
So
we've
got
a
program,
that's
targeting
the
first
three
of
these
steps,
so
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna,
speak
about
that
in
a
moment
and
the
strategy
that
we're
bringing
forward
with
the
recommendations
to
council
is
also
targeting
number
five.
G
G
Sorry
for
all
these
steps,
but
I
like
things,
numbered,
I
guess
so
the
five
steps
of
the
program
it
starts
with
buildings,
we're
focusing
on
buildings
over
20
000
square
feet
are
invited
to
will
they'll
be
invited
to
join
the
better
buildings
ottawa
network
and
and
by
joining
that
network
they're,
committing
to
benchmarking
and
disclosing
their
energy
and
water
consumption.
We're
using
a
a
tool
called
energy
perform
energy,
star
portfolio
manager,
that's
a
free
national
tool
for
for
doing
that.
Disclosure.
G
If
you
know
about
the
ontario
program,
that's
already
in
place
to
do
some
of
this.
We're
extending
that
program
in
a
couple
of
ways,
and
one
is
by
focusing
on
or
inviting
buildings
much
smaller,
so
20
000
square
feet
instead
of
the
100
000
square
feet
threshold
that
the
provincial
program
has
right
now
we're
also
proposing
to
disclose
energy
performance
at
the
address
level
rather
than
in
aggregate,
because
we
think
that
that
builds
a
culture
of
transit
of
of
transparency.
That's
really
important
from
a
market
transformation.
G
How
effective
that
is
in
helping
drive
some
of
the
building
envelope
retrofit
work
that
we're
not
seeing
enough
of
yet
in
the
in
the
regular
market
market
marketplace.
So
we're
looking
to
sort
of
focus
on
that
thermal
energy
component.
That
we
know
is
a
significant
piece
of
the
emissions
pie
for
this
particular
segment
of
buildings.
G
Number
four
within
steps
of
the
program
are
that
all
participants
will
be
offered
capacity,
building
workshops
and
collaboration
opportunities.
So
peer
learning,
as
well
as
learning
from
experts,
will
be
facilitated
by
participation
in
the
program
and
step.
Five
is
to
use
the
data
collected
to
help
develop
a
financing
program
for
deep
energy
retrofits.
G
So
right
now
there
are
performance
standards
for
energy
consumption
mandated
in
new
york,
city,
st
louis
and
washington
dc,
as
well
as
in
vancouver.
Vancouver
is
phasing
them
in
over
the
next
few
years.
Toronto
announced
a
report
last
or
approved
a
report.
A
few
months
ago
that
is
committing
them
to
exploring
their
authority,
so
it
appears
so
far
that
the
ontario
municipal
act
has
given
municipalities
authority
to
implement
these
kinds
of
regulations,
but
it
has
yet
to
be
tested
in
the
province.
G
That
same
regulation
applies
both
to
the
city
of
toronto
act
as
well
as
in
the
ontario
municipal
act.
So
we're
working
closely
with
toronto
to
explore
that
this
strategy
recommends
that
voluntary
policies
be
in
place
until
2024,
at
which
point
we
we
implement
mandatory
requirements
pending
the
authority
conversation
as
well
as
pending
what
the
province
might
do
in
the
meantime,
so
regulations
that
will
be
considered
include
standards
for
benchmarking,
auditing
and
energy
and
emissions
performance
for
buildings.
G
The
final
step
of
the
program
is
to
engage
senior
levels
of
government,
because
we
know
that
the
municipality
can't
do
this
alone,
so
we've
got
requests
for
the
ontario,
the
government
of
ontario,
the
ontario
energy
board
and
independent
electricity
system
operator,
as
well
as
for
the
government
of
canada,
to
incentivize
retrofits
in
ways
that
they
can
to
promote
net
zero.
Retrofit
codes
to
provide
me
authority
to
municipalities
where
needed
and
to
provide
mandates
for
benchmarking
and
disclosure,
if
not
given
to
us
to
municipalities
for
authority.
G
A
H
So,
if
you
looked
on
the
the
cover
of
the
strategy,
you
may
have
recognized
the
buildings
as
being
on
kent
street
downtown
and
you
may
think
of
them
as
as
buildings
that
really
fit
in
with
this
strategy,
because
they
could
benefit
from
retrofits
to
reduce
their
greenhouse
gas
emissions,
but
as
a
volunteer
with
safe
wings.
I
look
at
those
buildings
and
I
see
something
very
different,
because
those
buildings
are
among
the
worst
in
ottawa
for
collisions.
H
H
H
Right
and-
and
this
is
something
this
is
through-
something
that
we've
already
come
up
with,
and
I
know
many
of
you
were
very
supportive
of
ottawa's
bird,
safe
design
guidelines
and
we're
already
seeing
some
really
great
outcomes
with
that,
such
as
gladstone
village.
It
is
committed
to
being
bird
friendly
and
following
these
bird
safe
design
guidelines,
and
while
you
might
think
of
the
guidelines,
as
mainly
for
new
buildings,
they
can
still
be
applied.
The
same
principles
can
be
applied
to
existing
buildings.
H
H
H
Great
thank
you,
and
so
we
would
like
to
reduce
emissions
and
save
birds
with
this
strategy,
and
we
think
that
this
is
possible
through
tying
some
of
those
incentives
of
financial
incentives
that
we
were
talking
about
or
hearing
about
just
on
that
previous
presentation,
two
buildings
following
the
bird
safe
design
guidelines-
and
we
have
a
really
great
example
of
this
here
in
ottawa
already.
This
is
160
elgin
in
the
picture
and
it
went
under
a
major
renovation
in
the
past
few
years
and
they
are
now
leed
certified
gold.
H
So
we
know
that
they
have
greatly
reduced
the
emissions
from
this
building
and
while
it's
maybe
not
clear
from
this
picture,
this
is
also
bird-friendly
glass.
So
we've
also
seen
a
huge
decline
in
the
number
of
birds
colliding
with
this
with
this
building.
So
this
is
really
for
us.
This
is
an
example
of
how
we
can
make
this
program
work
to
take
advantage
of
overlaps
between
energy
efficiency
and
bird
safe
design.
So,
for
example,
fritted
glass,
often
it
has
more
insulative
capacity
than
regular
glass.
I
I
How
often
do
you
get
reached
out
to
safe
wings
by
builders
by
the
city
by
federal
government
when,
when
they
are
retrofitting
a
building
changing
a
building
or
someone
is
designing
a
building
like
happened
with
gladstone
village?
How
often
the
safe
wings
get
reached
out
to
at
this
point
like
are?
Are
people
do
you?
Do
you
get
the
sense
that
there
is
a
seriousness
in
terms
of
bird-friendly
design.
H
H
We
think
because
there
have
been
a
number
of
instances
where
builders
have
gone
ahead
with
what
they
think
are
bird
friendly
designs
and
aren't,
and
the
nac
is
a
great
example
of
the
where
the
the
standards
were
not
followed
and
something
that
was
probably
is
not,
and
so
we
we
do,
encourage
it
and
we
are
starting
to
see
it
more
and
more,
but
you
know,
of
course,
we
still
have
a
ways
to
go.
We
we
would
like
to
see
it
more
yeah.
I
Of
course
just
want
to
let
you
know
and
chair,
I
do
have
a
direction
that
I
worked
on.
My
office
worked
on
with
with
janice
around
around
the
bird
friendly
designs
and
and
this
better
building
strategy.
Do
you
want
me
to
just
you
want
me
to
read
that
out
as
direction
now,
and
we
can
discuss
it
later
or
you
can
accept
it
now.
What.
I
E
I
There
is
significant
overlap
between
energy
efficiency,
retrofits
bird,
safe
design,
changes
such
as
replacing
existing
windows,
glass
surfaces
and
lighting
upgrades,
and
there
are
financial,
environmental
and
wildlife
conservation
benefits
and
efficiencies
achieved
by
integrating
bird
safe
design
measures
into
a
building
retrofit.
I
guess
that
should
have
been
my
reverse,
but
give
the
direction
first
on
the
rationale
for
it.
Second,
but
you
know
we
did
hear
that,
certainly
that
there
are
both
financial
and
environmental
benefits
to
retrofitting.
A
J
Our
network
of
members,
as
most
of
you,
know,
spans
rural,
suburban
and
urban
areas
of
ottawa.
So,
first
of
all,
thank
you.
Counselors
for
your
work
on
the
environment
committee.
I
think
we're
all
a
bit
exhausted
from
the
op
deliberations
and
I
think
many
of
you
would
have
worked
the
whole
weekend
through
and
into
the
evenings,
and
I
want
to
thank
staff
as
well.
Who's
been
obviously
part
of
this
gargantuan
effort.
J
J
This
document
and
the
proposed
motions
are
a
brilliant
example
of
leadership
and
calls
for
collaboration,
and
I
would
very
much
like
to
thank
those
of
you
who
have
worked
on
it
and
those
of
you
who
have
supported
it
thus
far.
I'd
like
to
highlight
three
reasons
like
janice,
I
like
to
number
things
why
I
think
that
this
effort
is
really
laudable.
J
First
of
all,
there
is
a
sense
of
urgency.
The
benchmarking
and
auditing
programming
is
looking
at
launching
in
q4
2021
boom,
not
just
a
two-year
time
horizon
before
some
pencil
will
be
sharpened,
but
we
want
to
get
going
just
give
us
the
thumbs
up
and
and
staff
will
start
to
make
things
happen.
I
think
that's
great.
Second
of
all,
I
see
this
as
a
real
example
of
leadership.
J
Sometimes
one
player
has
all
the
power
and
authority
and
can
dictate
completely
what's
going
to
be
for
lunch
on
saturday,
but
more
commonly
and
with
complex
public
policy
issues
like
climate
all
manner
of
players
have
a
part
to
play,
and
really
nobody
really
controls
it
all
more
and
more.
In
the
climate
literature,
there
has
been
a
recognition
of
the
huge
importance
of
the
local
municipal
level
and
because
that's
where
emissions
really
come
from,
but
clearly
the
city
of
ottawa
does
not
fully
control
large
private
building
management
in
ottawa.
J
The
city
does
not
own
large
buildings
that
this
emission
reduction
program
is
aimed
at
and
not
all
enabling
policies
by
other
level
of
government
are
set
and
not
all
the
financing
is
lined
up,
but
rather
than
saying
this
is
not
under
our
control.
We
can't
do
anything
this
time.
The
city
is
saying
hey,
there
are
things
that
we
can
do
and
we're
going
to
reach
out
to
the
other
players.
J
We
invite
you
and
you
to
do
this
to
contribute,
and
we
call
on
others
to
do
this
in
this
little
bit
and
here's
a
proposed
path
forward
to
achieve
what
we
need
to
achieve.
We
can
only
do
it
together
and
third
reason
why
I
love
this.
Is
it
practical
and
it's
smart?
It's
an
engagement
and
partnership
approach
looking
to
work
in
stages,
so
I
hope
that
this
proposed
program
receives
full
support
from
this
committee
council.
The
mayor,
fcm
and
the
provincial
government
cafes
is
not
a
large
building
owner.
J
A
A
K
Thank
you,
chair
yeah,
just
want
to
thank
staff
for
the
comprehensive
report.
It
is
nice
to
have
this
in
front
of
us.
Building.
Retrofits
are
really
one
of
the
main
areas
we
need
to
go
in
terms
of
meeting
our
own
goals
and
the
conversations
we've
been
having,
I
think
internally
around
our
own
municipal
buildings,
will
drive
very
well
with
what
we're
seeing
in
front
of
us.
K
So
congratulations
to
staff
on
on
the
work
to
bring
this
forward,
the
consultations
that
have
gone
on
and
and
our
push
to
to
meet
our
own
goals
that
we've
set
out.
I
guess
my
my
one
question
is
what
do
incentives
look
like
for
these
types
of
programs?
You've
mentioned
multi-unit
residential
as
being
an
area
that
may
suit
those
types
of
incentives.
G
Sure,
thanks
for
the
question,
councilor
menard,
as
you've
heard,
we
present
that
this
plan
is
or
this
first
step
of
the
program
is
to
get
us
ready
to
be
able
to
launch
a
financing
mechanism,
and
we
think
that
that,
in
terms
of
the
resources
that
municipalities
can
tap
into
the
best
opportunity
for
us
right
now
is
to
be
a
flow
through
for
funds
from
the
canada
infrastructure
bank.
In
order
to
achieve
you
know
flow
those
through
to
to
private
building
owners
in
ottawa.
G
You've
also
heard
us
talk
about
an
opportunity
or
potential
community
improvement
plan
that
would
be
for
energy
conservation,
we're
still
working
on
that
idea
and
we'll
come
back
to
council
when
we've
got
a
better
proposal
in
place,
but
but
the
funding
mechanism,
for
that
is
not
yet
clear.
We
haven't
yet
identified
either
a
grant
a
source
of
grant
funds
that
we
can
flow
through
or
enough
savings
on
the
tax,
increment
funding
or
tax
increment
to
be
able
to
allow
us
to
offer
those
upfront
grants.
So
so
we're
looking
at
that
opportunity.
G
K
I
appreciate
the
answer
and
just
given
where
we're
at,
I
think
I
mean,
I
think
you
know,
I
think
we
all
know
low-cost
financing's
not
going
to
get
the
job
done
for
having
the
five
percent
turnover
that
we
need
per
year
for
those
deep
retrofits.
I
think
everyone's
probably
aware
of
that.
I
think
back
to
the
the
you
know,
provincial
programs,
where
there
was
significant
funding
for
things
like
window
replacement
and
other
switches
to
things
like
heat
pumps.
K
I
believe
there's
a
there
is
a
another
grant
program
of
that
sort
as
well.
That
is
really
what
we
need
ottawa
can't
do
that,
just
on
its
on
its
own.
Of
course,
we
need
partners
to
do
it,
but
I'm
I'm
surprised
I
haven't
seen.
I
saw
the
5
000
rebate
to
individual
folks
at
the
federal
level,
but
I'm
surprised
I
haven't
seen
the
federal
government
or
provincial
government
do
more
to
partner
with
municipalities
in
this
regard,
given
our
own
goals,
because
to
me
given
buildings,
are
our
largest
source
of
emissions.
K
This
is
the
only
thing
that's
going
to
get
that
job
done
is
is
straight
grants
and
incentives,
partnering
with
cities
and
communities
across
the
country
to
retrofit
deep,
retrofit
residences
and
commercial
buildings
as
well.
So
the
more
we
can
push
and
you're
on
you've
got
the
right
direction
in
here
and
and
and
steps
to
do
that
in
your
report,
the
more
we
can
push
other
orders
of
government
to
partner
with
us
to
get
those
incentives,
the
more
we
can
meet
our
goals,
because
without
those
it
just
won't
happen.
I
Thank
you,
chair
thanks
janice
and
all
staff
who
worked
on
this.
This
is
very
good
news
and,
and
certainly
a
positive
way
forward
that,
where
we
can,
you
know
we
can
kind
of
measure
the
the
you
know,
the
the
success
as
as
we
move
along
and
get
reported
back,
because
it
really
is
probably
one
of
our
most
important
energy
evolution
goals,
because
we
know
that
you
know
heating
costs
and
and
energy
costs
and
the
contribution
to
greenhouse
gases
is
is
immense.
I
So
so
thank
you
for
that.
I
just
have
a
quick
question.
The
you
know
you.
I
know
that
you
talked
about.
You
know
federal
government,
buildings
and
and
working
you
know
with
the
federal
government,
but
I
guess
you
weren't
really
specific
like
and
has
the
federal
government
come
to
us
like
they
are,
I
guess
are
the
at
least
owner.
I
think
they
own.
Probably
they
certainly
lease,
but
they
own
the
majority
of
large
commercial
buildings
in
the
downtown.
I
G
Yeah,
that's
a
great
question:
counselor
mckinney
and
thanks
for
that
and
you're
right,
the
federal
government
is
the
single
biggest
land
owner
in
the
city
and
especially
for
this
target
building
sector
that
we're
that
we're
looking
at
the
office
building
space
in
particular,
we
have
been
chatting
with
them
extensively.
You'll
see
it
in
this
report,
though
we
specifically
don't
focus
on
the
federal
buildings
or
the
public
buildings
in
general,
owned
by
any
level
of
government,
because
they
have
their
own
mandates
and
in
most
cases,
including
the
federal
government.
G
Their
mandate
is
already
in
place
to
become
net
zero
over
time
they
have
the
greening
government
strategy
that
treasury
board
is,
is
has
mandated
and
is
rolling
out,
and
you
know
be
just
as
is
responsible
for
a
large
number
of
those
buildings
in
ottawa
and
we're
learning
a
lot
a
great
deal
from
from
that
work,
because
they've
been
leading
a
fair
bit
by
example.
Of
course,
they
still
have
lots
of
work
to
do,
but
but
there's
quite
a
bit
of
data
coming
out
of
their
retrofit
work.
G
Where
we've
made
arrangements
already
with
the
federal
government,
the
the
folks
under
the
the
treasury
trevory
board
the
greening
government
services
to
provide
some
of
their
experience
and
and
knowledge
as
well
as
template
policies.
Green
leases,
those
kinds
of
things
to
our
network
participants.
So
we
can
so
we
can
all
learn
from
their
experience
and
we're
also
working
with
them
on
on
doing
some
modeling
for
or
learning
from
their
experience,
at
least
when
it
comes
to
sort
of
shadow
carbon
price
and
how
they're
implementing
a
carbon
lens
across
some
of
their
decision.
G
Making
and
asset
management.
You'll
hear
more
about
that
from
my
colleague
jen.
In
a
few
minutes,
but
that's
been
helpful
for
us
to
have
those
dialogues
and
we're
also,
you
know,
leaning
on
them
in
terms
of
some
of
the
work
that
they've
done
with
regards
to
low
carbon
building
materials
and
steel
and
concrete
mandates
so
they're.
They
haven't
yet
announced
those.
But
we've
been
having
conversations
to
date
with
them
about
things
that
we
can
learn
from
them
as
they
as
they
do
those
those
studies
and
then.
G
Finally,
I
suppose,
as
you're
quite
aware,
there's
quite
a
lot
of
discussion
back
and
forth
between
the
city
and
the
federal
government
with
regards
to
district
energy
and
how
their
network
of
district
energy
can
be
made
lower
carbon
as
well
as
how
it
can
help
feed
other
buildings.
So
that
is
a
little
bit
adjacent
to
this
particular
program
and
strategy.
But
it's
very
much
because
it's
being
dealt
with
under
another
community
heating
strategy
by
my
colleague,
but
but
it
is
very
much
influential
on
the
outcomes
of
this
strategy.
L
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
janice
for
the
in-depth
report.
Like
my
other
colleagues,
I
I'm
really
excited
about
the
release
of
this
strategy
for
buildings,
since
we
are
engaging
with
the
private
sector
and
we
know
the
amount
of
greenhouse
gas
emissions
that
really
emerge
from
the
built
environment.
So
I'm
also
really
pleased
that
we
are
undertaking
an
energy
audit
process
that
will
aggregate
the
data
so
we'll
be
able
to
ultimately
benchmark.
L
I
think
that's
important
as
well
just
wanted
to
ask
questions
around
maybe
innovation
and
technology,
and
even
engagement
of
our
of
our
local
technology
industries
and
other
industries
that
would
be
involved
in
intelligent
buildings
in
a
previous
life.
I
was
a
advocate
for
for
intelligent
building
technologies,
and
I
was
really
excited
by
the
fact
that
we
are
doing
benchmarking
in
that
previous
life.
We
did
benchmarking
around
intelligent
building
technologies
as
well
that
dealt
with
energy
efficiency,
but
also
looked
at
a
different
myriad
of
technologies.
L
You
know
such
as
a
controlled
energy,
recovery,
ventilation,
dynamic,
blinds
and
windows
dedicated
outside
air
supplies.
You
know:
we've
been
talking
about
new
heat
pumps,
so
ground
source
heat
pumps
but
and
low
lighting
power
density
occupancy
sensors.
So
I'm
just
wondering
if
you
could
speak
to
some
of
the
technologies
that
would
actually
be
engaged.
G
That's
not
really
done
much
yet
and
is,
as
our
modeling
has
shown,
really
needs
to
be
part
of
the
bigger
solution,
mechanicals
and
lighting
and
ventilation
all
the
stuff
that
you've
just
mentioned
in
terms
of
smart
buildings.
All
of
that
is
part
of
the
solution
as
well
and
is
typically
incorporated
into
a
typical
ashtray
level.
G
Two
audit
that
has
been
funded
or
incentivized
through
the
utilities
for
for
a
number
of
years,
but
what's
not
usually
touched
on
yet
is
the
envelope
work
and
our
modeling
is
showing
that
that
a
number
of
the
buildings,
the
majority
of
buildings,
will
need
some
sort
of
envelope
improvement
in
order
to
achieve
the
thermal
savings
that
we
need.
We
can't
just
do
it
through
fuel,
switching
and
changing
the
mechanicals
and
changing
the
the
electrical
equipment
and
and
controls.
We
also
need
to
look
at
envelopes.
G
So
we
need
to
see
mass
scale
up
to
bring
down
the
cost,
but
also
incentives
in
order
to
to
encourage
those
types
of
upgrades,
not
not
brushing
off
any
of
the
the
the
mechanical
and
ventilation
equipment
that
you've
mentioned
and
smart
controls.
That's
that
will
be
part
of
also
our
our
energy
scorecards,
our
insight
suggestions
and
that
we
see
through
the
virtual
audits,
as
well
as
the
education
and
capacity
building
program.
G
That
will
be
that
we'll
be
running
we'll
be
talking
about
different
technologies
like
thermal
like
like
building
automation,
systems
like
ventilation
systems
and
some
of
the
the
controls
that
we
can
see.
You
know
all
of
those
those
lower
cost
solutions,
but
we'll
also
be
adding
in
the
component
of
building
retro
building
envelope,
work.
L
Well,
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
you're
going
to
be
looking
at
both
sides
of
the
coin,
and
I
really
appreciated
the
fact
in
this
report
that
we
were
as
a
city
really
looking
at
retrofit
cost
reduction
measures
and
performance-based
rebates
for
improving
energy
and
emission
performance.
So
I
think
we're
on
the
right
track
very
pleased
with
this
report
and
I'll
be
very
pleased
to
support
it.
Thank
you
for
all
the
hard
work
on
it.
A
A
Three
direct
the
council
sponsors
group
to
work
with
the
mayor
to
request
the
government
of
ontario
to
a
amend
the
province
is
reporting
on
of
energy
consumption
and
water
use,
regulation
to
mandate,
industrial,
commercial,
institutional
and
multi-unit
residential
buildings
of
1850
square
meters
or
larger
and
other
building
types
to
report,
their
energy
consumption
and
water
use,
and
to
expand
the
scope
of
the
regulation
to
include
energy,
water
and
greenhouse
gas
emissions
to
closure.
At
the
address
level
b,
implemented
net
zero
retrofit
code
c
provide
authority
for
municipalities
to
mandate
an
emissions
performance
standards.
A
Should
the
government
of
ontario
not
amend
its
energy
consumption
and
water
use
regulation,
a
d
create
grant
and
or
rebate
programs
to
improve
the
business
case
for
deep
retrofits
with
longer
paybacks
for
all
building
types
and
e
demonstrate
leadership
through
deep
retrofits
and
provincially
owned
or
released
buildings
in
ottawa.
Four
direct
staff
to
report
back
to
council
on
the
city's
legislative
authority
implementation
plan
to
require
the
following
for
existing
commercial,
institutional
and
multi-residential
buildings
of
1850
square
meters
or
larger.
A
Should
the
government's
hero
not
abandon
energy
consumption
and
water
use
regulation,
a
mandatory
annual
energy
water
and
greenhouse
gas
emission
benchmarking
and
disclosure
b,
mandatory
energy
and
emissions
audits
and
or
recommissioning
reports
in
retrofit
plans
and
c
mandatory
emissions
or
energy
performance
targets?
Five
direct
counsel,
sorry
direct.
A
The
council
sponsors
group
work
with
the
mayor
to
request
the
government
ontario
to
direct
the
ontario
energy
board
and
independent
electricity
system
operator
to
a
implement
rate
structure,
changes
that
favor
electrification
and
fuel
switching
rate
for
natural
gas
b
fund
electrical
service
upgrades
that
are
required
for
greenhouse
gas
reduction
purposes
through
the
rate
base
c,
develop
utility
mechanisms
to
help
support
and
invest
deep
emissions.
Retrofits
and
d
continue
to
retrofit
cost
reduction
measures
such
as
performance-based
rebates
for
improved
energy
and
emissions
performance.
A
The
model
release
that
model
retrofit
code
that
aligns
with
the
targets
set
in
the
paris
agreement
b,
set
standards
for
low,
embodied
carbon
materials,
including
concrete
and
steel
and
low
global
warming
potential
refrigerants
see
continue
its
commitment
to
carbon
pricing
via
the
greenhouse
gas
pollution
pricing
act
d,
create
expand,
grant
programs
and
tax
incentives
to
improve
the
business
case
for
deep
retrofits,
with
long
payback
periods,
e
work
with
municipalities
to
ensure
rebates
and
financing
for
deep
emissions.
Retrofits,
including
include
providing
a
loan
backstop
for
municipal
retrofit
financing
programs
for
private
buildings.
A
M
M
So
staff
recommend
is
part
of
the
report
that
the
standing
committee
on
environmental
protection,
water
and
waste
management
recommend
that
council
1
receive
the
annual
status
update
on
the
climate
change
master
plan,
including
the
2020
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
Inventories
attached
as
document
1
and
updates
on
the
climate
change
master
plan,
8
priority
actions
and
2
approve
that
the
2020
hydro,
auto
dividend
surplus
of
800
thousand
dollars
be
used
to
fund
the
proposed
spending
plan,
as
summarized
in
the
staff
report
next
slide.
Please,
so
I
will
start
with
a
snapshot
of
the
2020
emissions.
M
We'll
start
with
the
community,
which
are
all
those
emissions
that
are
within
the
geographic
boundary
of
ottawa,
similar
to
previous
years,
we're
seeing
a
trend
that
roughly
90
of
our
emissions
come
from
the
buildings
and
transportation
sector
with
the
waste
agricultural
making
up
the
remaining
emissions
we
go
by
source.
Natural
gas
is
the
largest
emitting
source
followed
by
gasoline
and
diesel.
M
Next
slide,
please
on
the
corporate
slides
all
those
emissions
that
are
attributable
to
municipal
operations.
You
see
that
fleet
is
our
largest
emitting
sector,
which
can
be
further
broken
down,
with
transit
fleet
being
the
highest
emitting
sector
at
44
directly
correlated.
You
can
see
that
diesel
is
the
highest
evading
source
at
roughly
half
of
our
emissions
next
slide,
please.
M
So
this
slide
is
to
provide
a
bit
of
a
refresher
of
our
what
our
greenhouse
gas
emission
reduction
targets
are
both
for
the
community
as
well
as
the
corporation,
and
this
is
all
based
off
a
2012
baseline
level.
I
think
most
of
us
are
quite
familiar
with
our
with
our
long-term
targets
for
both
the
community
corporation,
but
it's
always
good
to
get.
E
M
But,
as
we
are
all
very
well
aware,
2020
was
a
unique
year
in
which
we
experienced
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic,
which
led
to
increase
in
remote
work
as
well
as
remote
learning.
This
led
to
buildings
and
businesses
being,
in
some
cases,
temporarily
shut
down,
and
there
was
also
a
decrease
in
personal
vehicle
trips,
and
so
the
influence
of
the
pandemic
was
seen
most
clearly
on
the
transportation
side.
M
F
M
And
what
it
takes
to
meet
our
short
and
midterm
targets,
the
community
will
need
to
reduce
emissions
by
five
to
six
percent
per
year
over
the
next
five
to
ten
years
and
staff.
Don't
expect
that
the
drop
in
community
emissions
due
to
the
pandemic
will
be
sustained
once
the
virus
center
is
under
control
and
that
further
action
and
investment
will
be
required
to
achieving
your
targets.
N
M
M
M
M
If
we
look
at
this
month,
it's
been,
I
think
we
are
all
well
aware
that
the
new
official
plan
was
was
recently
brought
to
joint
committee,
and
this
had
climate
considerations
embedded
throughout
as
well
as
janice
just
presented
on
the
better
building
ottawa
strategy.
Additionally,
later
this
month,
staff
will
look
to
launch
the
better
homes.
Ottawa
loan
program,
which
will
is,
is
a
program
that
will
provide
financing
to
homeowners
to
make
energy
efficiency
retrofits
in
their
home.
M
Continuing
on
the
key
achievements:
there
are
staff
of
security,
significant
funding
and
external
loans
and
grants
to
support
climate
change
mitigation
efforts,
including
the
aforementioned
zero
emission
buses
and
the
better
homes
ottawa
loan
program.
Additionally,
four
additional
funding,
application
and
nine
letters
of
support
were
submitted
to
encourage
private
action.
M
If
you
look
at
what's
coming
ahead,
there
are
a
number
of
reports
that
are
scheduled
to
come
before
the
end
of
next
year.
This
includes
the
high
performance
development
standard
and
the
green
building
policy,
update
the
climate,
vulnerability
and
risk
assessment.
The
update
to
the
municipal
greenfleet
plan,
the
personal
electric
vehicle
strategy
and
electric
vehicle
policy
update
the
carbon
accounting
framework.
The
drafts
all
lewis
master
plan
part
one
of
the
transportation
master
plan
update,
as
well
as
for
asset
management
plans.
M
So,
finally,
we
will
end
on
the
hydro,
auto
dividend
surplus
spending
plan
I
previously
mentioned
there's
800
thousand
dollars,
which
will
be
used
to
advance
six
of
the
20
energy
evolution
projects
where
possible.
This
will
be
used
to
leverage
federal
and
provincial
funding
and
examples
of
projects
that
have
been
cited
for
funding,
include
municipal
building
energy
conservation,
efficiency
and
fuel,
switching
projects,
public
and
municipal,
electric
vehicle
charging
infrastructure,
the
district
energy
at
gladstone
development,
solar
panels
at
municipal
buildings
and
further
education
and
outreach
staff
for
climate
change.
A
J
Hi
there
hi
again,
so
it's
very
useful
to
have
this
annual
occasion
for
a
climate
progress
report
to
take
stock
of
where
ottawa
is
on
climate
action.
The
climate
situation
is
dire.
I
think
globally,
we're
not
doing
great
or
to
be
more
honest,
it's
a
terrible
situation
and
locally
municipally.
I
think
we're
also
not
doing
great.
J
J
There
was
a
provision
that
all
cl
all
council
and
committee
motions
should
have
a
climate
implication
section
that
was
watered
down
to
be
voluntary,
and
I
think
that
if
we
took
stock
of
how
many
council
and
committee
decisions
actually
had
climate
implications
drawn
out,
I
think
that
the
reports
at
this
present
meeting
are
the
first
time
I'm
noticing
that
section
to
be
filled
in.
I
might
be
wrong.
J
J
J
We
will
encourage
you
to
do
better
and
we
will
also
try
to
partner
and
support
anything
that
the
city
is
doing
last
comment,
I'm
I'm
pleased
to
say
and
I'll
end
on
a
very
positive
note,
that
we
have
excellent
communications
and
I
thank
you
counselors
for
always
being
open
to
communicate,
as
with
staff
very
much
appreciated.
Thank
you.
A
J
A
Yeah-
and
that
was
that
that
was
the
intent
of
our
what
we
did
and
we
know
we
know
that
it
wasn't.
You
know
if
we
have
a,
we
have
a
report
on
like
I
don't
know
if
it's
in
the
school
bus
camera
pilot,
but
I'm
not
sure
you
necessarily
need
to
put
it
on
every
report,
and
that
was
the
intent
with
that
that
changing
it
wasn't
necessarily
watering
it
down.
A
It's
just
saying
we
want
to
make
sure
that's
put
in
where
it
belongs
and
where
it's
the
most
important
and
obviously
on
a
on
a
realignment
project
for
for
a
road,
that's
obviously
an
important
factor,
and
it's
there
that
was
the
intent.
It's
not
it's
not
to
make
sure
that
we
staff
don't
do
it,
and
staff
were
clear
on
that
when
we,
when
we
did
that
through
the
governance
report
earlier
this
this
term,
council
menard
has
a
question
for
you.
K
Thank
you
chair
thanks
angela
for
your
presentation.
The
funding
issue
is
a
certainly
a
challenge
for
for
me
as
well.
I
know
we've
brought
motions
in
the
past
about
looking
at
what
kind
of
savings
we
could
achieve
through
innovative
financing
debt
financing,
for
example,
for
things
that
save
us
money
like
retrofits
and
how
we
can
move
that
forward.
K
So
I'm
hoping
with
the
vulnerability
assessment,
our
resiliency
work,
the
new
official
plan
directions.
We
keep
moving
in
that
direction,
but
you
are
absolutely
right
about
the
financing
piece.
So
what
do
you
think
is
the
solution
to
that?
What
do
you
see
it
as
a
reallocation
of
of
funds
within
the
budget?
Do
you
see
it
as
a
as
an
increase
to
tax
base?
J
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
question.
Counselor
menard,
I
okay,
I
don't
think
there's
a
one
silver
bullet,
I
think
clearly
having
a
critical
mass
and
and
growing
number
of
of
competent
dedicated
staff
is,
is
part
of
increasing
the
city's
capacity
right.
So
so
that
needs
to
be
on
the
books,
and
I
I
should
say
compared
to
where
we
were
five
six
seven
years
ago.
We
are
in
a
much
better
place
now,
so
so
we
should
increase
that
trajectory
in
terms
of
the
the
capacity
of
of
staff.
J
J
Okay,
but
okay,
so
where
I
think
that
the
huge
huge
gap
is
is
actually
in
in
financial
management,
financial
planning
and
and
like
the
higher
levels
of
making
things
happen
right
and
like
when
you're
talking
about
commingling
different
streams,
especially
in
the
capital
budget.
Right
where
you're
saying,
okay,
we're
gonna,
borrow
1.5
billion
dollars
and
we're
going
to
do
a
green
bond
financing
and
then
we're
going
to
commingle
those
funds
with
loans
from
the
infrastructure
bank,
which
is
going
to
be
guaranteed
by
something
else
and
doo
doo
doo
doo
doo.
J
That
kind
of
work
is,
I
think,
outside
the
competency
and
capacity
of
the
current
climate
team.
So
what
you
would
need
is
dedicated
human
resources
again,
I
think
in
the
finance
department
that
that
are
seriously
given
the
challenge
of
saying:
okay,
we're
serious
about
achieving
the
climate
targets
of
the
city
of
ottawa
and
here's
the
financial
plan
and
sure
some
of
it's
going
to
be
estimates
and
some
is
going
to
be
contingent
on
what
federal
political
party
we
have
in
power
10
years
down
the
road.
J
But
we
need
to
have
a
plan
and
right
now
we
don't
have
a
financial
plan,
so
that's
kind
of
like
clue
number
one,
and
I
think
that,
like
we,
we
have
these
kinds
of
people
in
the
city
of
ottawa.
So
but
you
know
getting
one
or
two
staff
in
finance
tasked
them
to
do
that.
I
think,
and
and
possibly
putting
in
place
a
structural
solution.
So
you
know
in
the
same
way
that
hydra
hydro
ottawa
is
a
fully
owned
corporation.
J
K
Okay,
no
thank
you
for
that.
I
appreciate
it.
I
I
think
that
the
financing
piece
is
outstanding,
because
I
I
do
we.
There
is
a
lot
that
we've,
I
think,
accomplished
this
term
on
on
our
objectives
here,
but
that's
not
sustainable
without
what
you're
talking
about,
which
is
that
baseline
financial
investment
every
single
year
that
can
usually
bring
back
savings.
I
know
other
municipalities
have
set
it
up
where
the
savings
achieved
are
actually
reinvested,
so
they
actually
create
a
fund
from
the
savings
of
things
like
led
lights.
We
do
we
do
it
differently
here.
K
You
know
I'm
happy
to
see
ropec
as
well
have
the
type
of
investment
that
it
did
recently
and
the
type
of
you
know,
reduction
in
emissions,
and
you
know
net
zero
that
that
can
bring
as
well
and
our
waste
diversion
to
our.
I
think
we're
we're
on
the
right
track.
There
greener
buildings
we're
on
we're
on
the
track
to
do
better.
I
think
you're,
absolutely
right
about
that
finance
or
really
just
appreciate
your
contributions
to
this
point,
a
lot
more
to
do
so.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
a
lesson
in
taking
things
out
of
context.
I'm
going
to
I'm
going
to
take
the
quote
that
councilman
are
just
said.
The
financing
piece
is
outstanding,
I'm
just
going
to
quote
that
throw
it
over
there.
It's
a
great
quote,
no
see
that's
what
you
can
do,
that's
what
that's
politics
right.
People
can
be
jerks.
Take
things
out
of
context.
I
wouldn't
do
that
to
sean.
C
Hi,
thank
you
very
much.
I
don't
see
that
my
video
is
on,
but
that's
okay.
I
hope
you
can
hear
me.
Thank
you.
My
name
is
peter
crowell,
I'm
from
capital
ward,
and
I
want
to
thank
the
committee
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
about
the
greenhouse
greenhouse
gas
annual
report
that
is
being
presented
today.
I
appreciate
the
work
that
you've
done
so
far
on
this.
My
overarching
comments
refer
to
funding.
C
Angela
has
spoken
about
this
and
I
won't
repeat
what
she
has
said:
the
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
is
woefully
inadequate
and
a
financial
plan
is
needed.
My
next
comments
address
the
priorities
identified
in
the
climate
change
master
plan.
With
respect
to
the
energy
evolution
strategy.
I
know
that
city
staff
have
been
working
hard
and
congratulate
them.
C
This
is
too
late
to
properly
inform
the
official
plan
or
the
asset
management
master
plan.
With
respect
to
the
climate
lens
to
the
new
official
plan,
the
official
plan
mentions
climate
change
throughout
its
text.
What
is
not
clear
is
what
climate
lens
is
being
used
to
do
this.
The
climate
lens
must
be
available
to
the
public
for
comment.
C
The
official
plan
doesn't
provide
adequate
land
use
or
development
direction
to
achieve
the
2050
carbon
neutrality
targets.
The
climate
lens
also
is
needed
for
asset
management
and
capital
projects
as
well.
The
vulnerability
assessment
is
needed
to
support
the
climate
lens
and,
lastly,
the
climate
lens
must
have
tiered
linkages
to
the
official
plan,
the
ccmp
and
environmental
evolution.
C
C
C
The
fact
that
this
is
an
annual
plan
points
to
the
lack
of
an
overall
strategy
and
note
that
the
city
will
be
developing
an
overarching
advocacy
strategy
for
energy
evolution
projects.
I
hope
that
this
bodes
well
for
this
work
without
stable
and
adequate
funding
for
public
outreach
and
education.
How
can
the
city
expect
to
reach
its
greenhouse
gas
community
reduction
goals?
C
With
respect
to
governance,
the
ghg
report
states
that
a
new
climate
implications
section
has
been
added
to
the
standard
report.
I
note
that
there
is
a
tiger
team
of
senior
managers
in
meetings
with
various
stakeholders,
but
what
ties
these
efforts
together
into
a
cohesive
framework?
Where
is
the
diverse,
influential
and
impactful
governance
structure
that
was
to
be
done
by
2020?
According
to
the
climate
change
master
plan?
C
C
My
comments
now
are
on
the
g
specifically
to
the
greenhouse
gas
report
in
order
to
meet
ottawa
short
term
and
midterm
targets
to
reduce
emissions
by
forty
thirty
percent
by
twenty
twenty
five
and
sixty
three
percent
by
twenty
thirty
respectively.
The
community
will
need
to
reduce
emissions
by
five
to
six
percent
per
year
over
the
next
five
ten
years.
The
delays
and
lack
of
funding
that
we've
pointed
out
raised
the
elephant
in
the
room.
How
is
this
supposed
to
happen?
C
I
note
that
a
commitment
to
ghg
reporting
on
the
impacts
of
intensification
has
been
added
to
the
official
plan
and
this
as
a
positive
move.
The
report
is
not
written
in
a
style
that
well
reflects
a
true
climate
emergency.
The
report
is
weak
on
forecasting
ghg
remissions
pegged
to
population
growth
of
the
city.
I
note
that
the
province
and
ontario
differ
in
population
forecasts
by
100
000
residents.
C
The
ghg
report
mentioned
the
high
performance
development
standard,
but
this
is
only
applicable
to
high-rise
development.
Green
standards
are
needed
for
all
other
residential
development.
There
are
threats
to
reaching
targets
not
identified.
For
example,
the
shutdown
of
the
lrt
due
to
design
issues
is
a
greenhouse
gas
issue
and
the
city
plans
to
buy
up
to
40
electric
buses.
This
is
this
is
good,
but
there
are
countless
scenarios
that
could
prevent
this
from
happening.
C
C
Lastly,
the
analysis
and
how
covid
will
affect
greenhouse
gas
emissions
is
weak.
Covet
is
changing
transportation,
residential
and
office
work
needs.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
attention.
I
hope
these
comments
are
useful
to
you.
Good
luck
with
your
work
that
lies
ahead.
It
is
so
important
for
current
and
present
generations
if
we
truly
wish
to
have
a
healthy,
prosperous
and
livable
neighborhoods
and
a
sustainable
city
city.
Thank
you
very
much.
K
K
K
C
Thank
you
very
much
counselor
menard.
I
just
wish
to
say
that
my
comments
are
not
spoken
in
isolation.
I
work
with
seven
other
individuals
called
the
citizen
climate
council
and
we're
an
informal
group
of
retired,
professional,
federal
managers
and
consultants,
and
we've
been
working
with
angela
and
and
cafes
and
another
few
other
groups,
and
we
we
want
to
work
in
the
spirit
of
cooperation
and
not
criticism
and
I'll,
bring
your
comments
to
our
group
and
we'll
see
what
we
can
do.
A
F
Thanks
cher
can
staff
just
touch
upon
more
of
the
2020
data
that
they've
presented
for
years
going
forward.
2020
is
going
to
have
an
asterisk
beside
it
for
all
data.
It
was
a
year
that
is
like
no
other
or
west.
Like
no
other
and
no
dispute
ghgs
went
down.
There
was
far
less
of
everything
going
on
except
trips
to
walmart,
because
that
was
the
only
place
to
get
toilet
paper
I'd
like
to
know
from
staff
if
they
are
able
to
estimate.
F
If
you
exclude
the
reductions
directly
related
to
covit.
If
there
are
estimates
available
to
what
our
reductions
were
like
in
2020
there's
going
to
be
a
rebound
once
we
come
out
slowly
coming
out
of
coed
and
the
goal
is
to
temper
increases
to
ghgs.
We
want
to
extend
this
reduction
as
long
as
possible
and
as
deep
as
possible
so
that
we
can
get
our
ghgs
damning.
We've
got
some
very
ambitious
targets,
so
I
just
want
staff
to
comment
on
2020.
First.
M
M
F
F
O
Thank
you
counselor
through
you
chair.
We
know
that
the
funding
is
a
significant
challenge
with
this
we've
all
spoken
about
the
fact
that
we
need
other
levels
of
government
to
support
funding
on
this.
Yes,
as
you
pointed
out,
the
hydro
ottawa
dividend
surplus
is
available
in
this
term
of
council.
We
will,
of
course,
have
to
revisit
that
decision
for
the
next
term
of
council,
council
will
also
have
decisions
to
make
through
the
annual
budgeting
process
and
through
the
long-range
financial
plans
it
will.
O
It
was
mentioned
earlier
that
we
don't
currently
have
a
long-range
financial
plan.
Of
course,
we
have
several
long-range
financial
plans
and
the
aspects
and
the
climate
considerations
will
need
to
be
embedded
systemically
in
each
of
these
long-range
financial
plans
as
they're
developed
and
so
through
a
previously
approved
motion.
There
is
direction
for
the
section
manager
of
the
climate
who's
willing
to
unit
to
participate
in
those
processes,
and
we
have
been.
We
have
been
in
regular
discussions
with
finance
about
how
we
can
move
this
forward.
O
You've
also
mentioned
that
there's
the
business
case,
and
we
certainly
think
that,
as
we
look
at
the
carbon,
the
escalating
carbon
crisis
through
the
federal
government
up
to
2030
that
some
of
these
decisions
will
become
more
apparent
and
that's
some
of
the
work
that
we've
committed
to
doing
throughout
the
rest
of
this
year
and
into
next
year.
As
part
of
the
carbon
accounting
framework.
F
Conversely,
if
you
cut
certain
programs
or
initiatives,
here's
the
impact
not
just
in
one
year
but
again
long
term,
so
again,
I'll
we'll
park
that,
for
my
colleagues,
we're
going
to
be
immersed
in
the
budget
very
soon
and
obviously
we'll
be
hosting
our
own
public
delegations
and
our
awards,
but
also
this
committee
and
I'm
sure
this
will
come
up,
but
surely
to
goodness
a
4.5
billion
organization.
We
can
find
more
funding
to
allocate
in
this
area.
So
thanks
chair
for
the
opportunity
to
chat.
K
Thanks
very
much
chair,
I
do
want
to
come
back
to
the
delegation
and
ask
staff
how
the
the
climate
lens
and
the
application
to
the
climate
implications
section
in
the
reports
is
going.
It's
a
new
initiative.
I'm
sure
it's
a
lot
more
work
as
a
result
of
having
to
review
these
pieces
and
that
individual
departments
take
it
on
as
well
as
as
your
team.
So
I
just
I'm
wondering
how
it's
going,
what
you're,
seeing
in
any
trends
for
yourselves
workload,
that
sort
of
thing,
if
you
can
comment
on
that.
M
M
They
are
to
come
to
the
climate
change
resiliency
unit
if
they
meet
the
requirements,
first
being
if
it's
a
significant
plan
or
policy
so
like
something
like
the
official
plan
or
master
plans,
long-term
financial
plans,
if
there's
a
significant
production
of
reduction
of
greenhouse
gas
emissions
as
well
as
if
there's
significant
vulnerabilities
or
risks,
as
well
as
resiliency
measures
included
in
in
the
project.
So
in
terms
of
of
workflows.
So
far,
there's
there's
been
a
steady,
a
number
of
reports
that
have
come
forward.
M
Some
are,
it
is
optional
for
those
other
reports,
some
have
come
forward
to
complete
the
section
that
are
optional,
so
it's
still
to
be
determined.
I
guess
the
as
it's
still
an
early
initiative,
just
the
the
volume
we'll
say,
but
maybe
I'll
just
take
this
opportunity,
also
just
to
mention
it's
not
the
only
area
that
a
climate
lens
is
is
being
applied
within
the
city.
M
In
terms
of
in
the
climate
change
master
plan,
it
was
identified
as
two
of
the
eight
priorities
was
to
apply
a
client
lens
to
the
official
plan
and
supporting
master
plans
and
apply
climate
lenses
to
the
asset
management
plans
and
capital
projects.
So
so
that
work
as
being
is
being
done.
We've
also
identified
the
need
to
develop
a
carbon
accounting
tool
which
would
be
brought
in
at
the
development
phase
of
a
project
to
determine
the
ghd
impacts,
potentially
at
the
project
level.
M
O
K
K
So
obviously
I
I
you
know
I
you
know
the
chairs
work
to
get
that
dividend
to
this
project
was
also
is
also
notable
and
was
was
done
early
in
the
term,
and
I
think
before
people
expected
not
knowing
how
much
it
would
actually
be,
but
it's
turned
out
to
be
helpful
in
many
cases.
Obviously,
there's
a
lot
more
needed.
I
have
just
two
follow-up
questions,
so
one
is
on
the
lens
d:
do
you
prefer
a
road
expansion,
for
example,
or
a
road
widening?
K
K
That's
disappointing
those
are
one
of
our
biggest
costs
and
obviously
the
the
new
traffic
that
they
generate.
Because
that's
what
happens
you
induce
demand
those
those
should
be
included,
so
maybe
I'll
work
with
you
offline
to
figure
out
how
those
can
be
included
because
there
is,
there
is
a
an
effect
given
transportation's
high
in
our
list
in
terms
of
emissions
corporately
anyway,
as
well
as
city-wide.
So
I
will
maybe
follow
up
with
you
to
see
how
that
could
be
included.
K
I
also
wanted
to
ask
on
the
hydro
ottawa
dividend
surplus.
As
I
say
that
has
been
a
positive.
How
would
having
a
reliable
source
of
funding?
Aside
from
that
that
dividend
surplus
changed
the
planning
and
implementation
process?
For
you
know,
projects
like
enter
within
the
energy
evolution
portfolio
would
a
reliable
source
of
funding
help
you
in
terms
of
implementation,
doing
your
jobs
to
a
greater
degree,
I'm
just
wondering
what's
missing
here
and
how
much
it
could
help.
O
Thank
you
for
the
question,
certainly
with
more
funds.
We
can
leverage
more
provincial
and
federal
funds.
We
can
build
capacity
both
internally
through
staff
and
through
partnerships
with
our
external
partners,
certainly
with
more
funding,
we
can
make
more
concrete
projects
happen
and
what
you
see
before
you
as
part
of
the
hydro,
auto
dividend
surplus,
is
a
prioritized
list,
and
so
at
any
point
in
time
we
have
a
prioritized
list
around
where
additional
funding
could
be
used.
O
If
I
go
back
to
the
climate
lens
as
an
example,
certainly,
we've
seen
other
other
plants
we
saw
yesterday
with
the
official
plan
you'll
hear
about
it.
The
solid
waste
report,
the
parks
and
rec
master
plan,
the
transportation
master
plan
that
comes
forward.
Our
colleagues
themselves
have
are
taking
these
climate
considerations
and
thinking
about
how
to
integrate
them
into
their
projects,
both
through
the
planning
processes.
K
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
That's
really
really
helpful.
I'm
wondering.
Are
we
expecting
any
source
of
funds
in
the
2022
budget
to
come
forward?
That
would
accomplish
what
we've
been
talking
about
even
minor
in
nature.
I'm
just
wondering
if
that
is
maybe
the
chair
knows
or
otherwise,
or
is
that
slated
to
come
in
addition
to
the
dividend
surplus
that
we've
seen.
O
Thank
you
counselor.
Generally
speaking,
there
is
no
additional
funding
other
than
the
annual
operating
budget
for
the
climate
resiliency
team
embedded
in
the
2022
budget.
There
is,
of
course,
off
budget
through
the
hydro
ottawa
dividend
surplus
and,
of
course,
there
are
a
wide
range
of
projects
through
the
through
other
departments.
O
Things
like
the
bean
team
fleet
ongoing
work
in
the
planning
department,
et
cetera.
So
I
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
that
there
are
a
range
of
projects,
many
of
which
have
climate
considerations
as
a
component,
but
no
additional
capital
asks
specifically
for
the
climate
change
resilience
team
in
the
2022
budget.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
maybe
a
direction
just
when
you,
when
you
report
to
us
on
the
budget.
One
of
the
things
we
do
we've
always
done.
Iraq
is
a
lot
of
our
stuff
in
the
rural
area,
is
actually
funded
out
of
other
budgets,
so
our
iraq
budget
is
actually
incredibly
small.
It's
probably
the
smallest
budget
in
the
entire
of
any
committee.
Well,
it
is
it's
like
2
million.
A
So,
but
what
we
do
is
we
have
staff
report
on
what
else
is
going
on
in
the
in
the
corporation
other
reports,
other
committees
that
oversee
rural
items?
I
wonder
if
it
wouldn't
hurt,
when
you
report
on
our
budget,
that
you
touch
on
what
some
of
these
other
things
are
going
on
throughout
the
corporation,
because
that's
the
whole
point
I
mean
that's
the
whole
point
of
the
start
of
the
start
of
the
term.
This,
isn't
there
isn't
a
climate
committee
every
committee
has
has
climate
impacts.
A
Okay
thanks
so
just
before
I
read
the
the
report,
so
I
just
want
to
thank
staff
on
this.
You
know
we.
I
think
this.
I
personally,
I
think
this
committee's
come
far
away.
I've
been
on
this
committee
since
we
created
it
in
2010
and
I
think
we've
moved
the
bar
on
environmental
policy
far
more
in
this
term
than
any
of
the
eight
years
combined
prior
to
this
term,
and
I
just
want
to
thank
the
team
because
it's
a
lot
a
lot
of
us
do
with
staff
our
team.
A
You
know
we
kind
of
had
you
buried
away
under
another
department
somewhere
tucked
away,
but
this
term
we've
brought
you
sort
of
up
and
and
created
the
resiliency
and
climate
change
unit.
Just
want
to
thank
andrew
flowers,
mike
fletcher
julia
robinson
jen
brown,
rebecca
hagan
mitchell
house,
janice
ashworth
emma
langham
we've
seen
she's
been
involved
in
some
some
things
that
we've
done
on
communications
and
wise
and
simon
and
greenland
smith
also
melissa.
George
conway
melissa.
George
conway
is
a
planner.
She
she
used
to
work
in
our
planning
group
on
regular
planning
files.
A
A
A
We
moved
to
item
number
three
residual
waste
management
strategy.
I
meant
to
queue
up
a
video
at
the
beginning
of
this
meeting,
but
it
pertains
to
trail
road
and
staff
have
created
a
video
involved
or
sorry
about
a
trail
operations
and
garbage
collection
in
general.
So
I
just
ask
with
the
committee's
indulgence
that
staff
provide
that
video
for
for
the
committee.
P
P
The
collection
vehicles
crush
materials
to
reduce
load
volume
and
decrease
trips
to
the
landfill
when
trucks
are
full,
they
head
to
the
trail
road
waste
facility
southwest
of
bar
haven.
All
trucks
are
weighed
when
they
arrive
and
again
when
they
leave,
so
the
city
can
track
how
much
waste
is
entering
the
facility.
P
At
the
small
loads
area,
materials
can
be
dropped
off
for
reuse
or
recycling.
There's
no
charge
for
glass,
metal,
plastic
tires,
scrap
metal
and
electronic
waste
brush
and
cardboard
are
accepted
for
a
small
fee.
Any
vehicle
that
brings
in
a
load
for
disposal,
big
or
small,
gets
directed
to
the
tipping
face.
P
E
P
Once
an
area
is
full,
it
is
sealed,
with
a
raincoat
like
barrier
in
various
layers
of
soil,
then
topped
with
grass,
the
trail
road
landfill
opened
in
1980
and
the
area
that
is
now
full
is
much
bigger
than
the
active
area.
The
overall
waste
footprint
is
85
hectares,
more
than
150
football
fields
wide,
but
how
much
space
is
left
in
2021
we
learned
that
our
landfill
could
reach
capacity
as
early
as
between
2036
and
2038.
If
we
keep
doing
what
we're
doing.
P
P
Groundwater
is
monitored
carefully
and
leachate
is
collected
and
pre-treated
right
at
trail
leachate
or
garbage
juice
in
layman's
terms
is
a
mix
of
liquids
from
wet
waste
and
added
rain
or
snow
after
24
hours
in
a
settling
basin
tankers.
Take
it
to
ropec
the
city's
wastewater
treatment.
Plant
powertrail
is
a
private
public
partnership
that
generates
electricity
from
landfill,
gas
powering
6000
homes
and
businesses,
co2
and
methane
form
when
organic
matter.
P
Decomposes,
in
the
absence
of
oxygen
wells
capture,
these
harmful
greenhouse
gases
to
prevent
them
from
entering
the
atmosphere
at
an
outdoor
composting
facility,
leaf
and
yard
waste
is
turned
into
potting,
soil
and
then
sold
to
residents.
So
they
can
reuse
it
in
their
own
yards
or
community
gardens.
P
After
a
long
day,
they
are
stored
in
the
garage
at
seven
a.m.
The
next
morning,
the
waste
facility
will
open
again
and
the
collection
crews
will
bring
in
more
garbage
your
garbage
good
news.
If
you
make
full
use
of
your
green
bin
and
recycling
bins,
you
can
keep
75
percent
of
your
waste
out
of
the
landfill,
but
the
best
way
to
reduce
waste
is
to
avoid
creating
it,
buy
less
repair,
more
choose,
reusable
containers,
refuse
unnecessary
packaging,
sell,
swap
donate
re-gift
or
repurpose.
A
P
A
Of
it
have
some
free
time:
okay,
so
we're
gonna
get
into
our
residual
waste
management
strategy,
and
we've
got
andrea,
gay,
farley,
shelley
mcdonald.
Here,
if
you
recall,
during
our
june
environment
community
meeting
when
we
were
talking
about
solids
master
plan,
staff
did
introduce
that
they
would
be
coming
back
to
us
with
this
residual
waste
managed
strategy
strategy
story
with
regard
to
a
trail,
road,
the
life
of
trail,
road
and
next
steps.
So
andrew
here
shall
we.
E
Along
with
kevin
and
myself,
we
have
two
key
members
of
the
team
present
leading
the
strategy
is
andrea
g,
farley
program
manager
of
program
planning
for
solid
waste
services
in
the
development
of
the
strategy.
Andrea
worked
really
closely
with
nicole
hoover
bienesh
a
familiar
face
to
this
committee,
who
is
leading
the
long-range
planning
team
currently
undertaking
the
solid
waste
master
plan
development
together.
We're
pleased
to
be
here
with
you
today
to
share
the
residual
management
strategy.
Our
plan
for
extending
the
life
of
the
trail
waste
facility
I'll
now
turn
the
presentation
over
to
andrea.
E
D
D
As
mentioned
in
the
video
the
trail
waste
facility
landfill
is
owned
and
operated
by
the
city.
It
began
receiving
waste
in
may
1980
and
originally
had
an
expected
life
of
20
years.
However,
there
have
been
multiple
efforts
to
extend
the
life
of
the
landfill
past
that
1980
date,
mainly
by
increasing
capacity
by
creating
new
cells
and
vertical
expansion
of
current
cells.
D
In
order
to
regularly
estimate
the
remaining
life
of
the
landfill,
the
city
has
relied
on
a
methodology
used
for
annual
compliance
reporting
to
the
ministry
of
environment,
conservation
and
parks.
As
reported
during
the
phase
ii
report
of
the
solid
waste
master
plan,
current
compliance
estimates
indicate
that
there
is
approximately
30
capacity
remaining
at
the
landfill.
D
Two
actions
specific
to
today
resulted
from
the
findings
of
that
phase
two
report.
First,
it
was
determined
that
the
compliance
methodology
calculation
was
not
suitable
for
long-term
planning
purposes,
as
it
did
not
take
into
consideration
any
dir
variable
parameters
such
as
population
growth
or
divergent
efforts.
D
The
strategy,
as
detailed
in
the
report,
is
meant
to
be
actioned
quickly,
ahead
of
the
work
being
done
through
the
solid
waste
master
plan,
but
very
much
in
line
with
that
work.
Next
slide,
please,
as
council
will
recall
phase
two
of
the
master
plan,
included
the
vision,
goals
and
guiding
principles
for
the
plan.
One
of
the
approved
goals
of
the
master
plan
was
to
extend
the
life
of
the
landfill,
given
the
importance
and
urgency
of
that
goal.
D
Short-Term
strategies
are
being
employed
ahead
of
the
final
approval
of
the
master
plan,
so
we
can
start
working
on
increasing
diversion
and
extending
the
life
of
the
landfill.
Now
the
residual
waste
management
strategy,
along
with
the
curbside
diversion
options,
project
and
the
multi-residential
strategy,
are
all
component
projects
of
master
plan
and
which
can
be
actioned
in
the
short
term
ahead
of
the
final
master
plan,
but
very
much
in
step
with
the
plan
to
help
extend
the
life
of
the
landfill.
D
D
D
D
Staff
are
also
seeking
direction
to
develop
a
best
practice:
landfill
life
calculation
methodology
to
better
estimate
remaining
capacity
of
the
landfill
for
planning
purposes.
And,
lastly,
the
strategy
seeks
direction
to
investigate
whether
the
waste
capacity
at
trail
road
could
be
increased
by
further
expansion
within
the
property
boundaries.
D
F
D
Secondly,
it
calls
for
the
development
of
a
landfill
life
calculation
methodology
suitable
to
use
for
long-term
planning
purposes
and
third,
it
seeks
direction
from
council
to
explore
the
potential
of
expansion
of
the
landfill
within
the
boundaries
of
trail
road.
Each
opportunity
identified.
The
strategy
will
be
evaluated
based
on
four
main
criteria,
including
how
much
capacity
is
gained
or
preserved
financial
and
environmental
impacts
and
outcomes
of
a
risk
analysis
assessment
for
each
opportunity.
D
The
first
opportunity
identified
in
the
report
is
limiting
the
types
of
waste
received
at
trail.
Road
staff
will
look
at
limiting
two
types
of
waste
bulky
waste
such
as
mattresses
and
furniture,
and
limiting
non-residential
waste
received
at
the
gate
of
the
landfill
staff,
will
conduct
market
research
and
a
municipal
scan
to
identify
and
evaluate
best
practices
and
explore
opportunities
to
partner
with
local
companies
to
divert
specific
items
from
the
landfill.
D
As
part
of
this
opportunity,
we
will
ensure
there
are
alternative
disposal
options
for
any
item
we
consider
restricting
at
the
landfill
so
that
there
is
still
a
viable
option
for
the
disposal
of
that
waste
staff
will
need
to
assess
the
financial
implications
of
limiting
non-residential
waste
received
at
the
gate
versus
the
cost
of
the
landfill
space.
It
occupies
and
create
a
robust
communication
plan
for
informing
residents
of
any
proposed
changes.
D
Staff
plan
to
return
to
this
committee
by
the
end
of
c1
2022,
with
recommendations
for
this
opportunity.
Next
slide.
Please
tipping
fees
are
used
at
trail
road
as
a
means
of
charging
for
waste
brought
directly
to
the
landfill.
Tipping
fees
are
set
based
on
the
type
and
weight
of
material
as
a
landfill
operator.
The
city
has
the
ability
to
set
fees
which
is
done
and
updated
on
an
annual
basis.
D
This
opportunity
will
involve
the
city
exploring
a
tipping
fee
strategy
that
would
create
an
incentive
to
reduce
waste
disposal
of
difficult
to
manage
items.
This
could
include
increasing
tipping
fees
for
certain
materials
to
discourage
generators,
from
disposing
of
these
materials,
increasing
tipping
fees
for
non-residential
waste
and
increasing
tipping
fees
for
those
materials
that
have
other
disposal
options.
D
A
residual
waste
management
lens
will
be
created
for
the
view
of
the
tipping
fees
and
will
be
in
place
for
the
2023
tipping
fee
review
cycle
next
slide.
Please,
the
third
opportunity
explores
redirecting
waste
to
private
landfills,
though
the
province
is
predicting
a
landfill
shortfall
throughout
the
province.
The
eastern
region
of
ontario,
including
the
city
of
ottawa,
is
comparatively
landfill.
D
Next
slide,
please,
as
a
city,
we
are
very
fortunate
to
have
knowledgeable
operational
staff
at
our
landfill.
The
staff
at
trail
road
have
been
long
committed
to
landfill.
Optimization
in
the
past
staff
have
made
beneficial
changes,
including
recovery
of
airspace
in
stages,
one
two
and
three
fill
sequence:
planning,
specialized
equipment,
selection
and
operator,
support
and
training.
D
As
part
of
the
residual
management
strategy,
we
will
complete
a
current
review
of
a
current
review
of
current
and
new
landfill
processes
and
equipment.
Looking
for
improvements
to
increase
the
quantity
of
waste
that
can
be
deposited
within
the
approved
contours
of
the
landfill
staff
will
continue
to
consider
methods
of
optimizing
landfill
operations
to
increase
the
remaining
capacity
and
extend
the
life
of
the
landfill.
D
D
D
The
last
opportunity,
as
presented
in
the
report,
identifies
the
development
of
a
framework
for
implementing
a
potential
future
technology
pilot
program.
This
would
include
a
current
market
scan
for
existing
potential,
planned
and
operational
residual
waste
technologies
and
facilities.
The
framework
will
also
detail
the
steps
to
establish
a
pilot
program
and
outline
financial
and
permitting
requirements.
D
D
The
methodology
will
take
into
consideration
factors
such
as
evolving
landfill,
operational
practices,
population
growth,
expansion
of
diversion
programs
or
increased
diversion
and
changing
consumption
habits
once
in
place.
The
integrated
scenario
based
calculation
will
be
more
suitable
for
planning
purpose,
so
that
council
can
make
more
informed
decisions
both
with
regard
to
the
near-term
opportunities
to
preserve
life
at
trail
road
and
for
planning
purposes,
in
consideration
of
future
policy
recommendations
as
part
of
the
solid
waste
master
plan.
D
Lastly,
the
report
seeks
direction
for
staff
to
explore
the
possibility
of
further
expanding
the
landfill
within
existing
property
boundaries,
to
create
additional
capacity
for
more
residual
waste
staff
will
investigate
the
feasibility
cost
and
time
frame
to
expand
the
capacity
of
the
current
landfill
property.
Sorry,
within
the
current
landfill
property
and
report
back
to
council
on
the
findings
in
q2
2022
next
slide.
Please.
D
A
A
A
A
K
A
N
N
Whatever
decisions
are
taken
in
the
short
run,
the
city
must
not
take
its
foot
off
the
accelerator
and
identifying
developing
and
implementing
enhanced
reduction,
diversion
and
organics
programs
extending
the
life
expectancy
of
the
trail
road
landfill
and
avoiding
the
need
to
replace
it
at
a
very
high
environmental
and
financial
cost
must
become
a
core
element
of
a
solid
waste
master
plan.
Identifying
and
acting
on
opportunities
for
reducing
the
waste
going
to
trail
makes
sense
even
before
the
conclusion
of
the
solid
waste
master
plan
and
is
even
more
imperative,
given
how
close
for
new
closure
dates.
N
Are
that
said,
restrictions
on
the
acceptance
of
certain
types
of
waste
at
trail
and
a
revision
of
tipping
fees
to
discourage
for
delivery
of
certain
ways
cannot
be
done
until
there
are
adequate
opportunities
for
alternative
recycling
and
disposal
in
place,
and
mattresses
are
a
point.
I
think
I
heard
that
presented
by
by
staff
and
clearly,
if,
if
you're
going
to
ban
mattresses,
you
have
to
make
sure
that
there
are
proper
options
available
for
recycling.
Some
big
retailers
do
take
them
back,
but
a
lot
of
people,
I
think,
are
challenged
with
how
to
deal
with
mattresses.
N
So
it
has
to
be
addressed
before
you
close.
The
gate
that
trail
shifting
residential
waste
disposal
to
private
landfills
doesn't
address
the
fundamental
problem.
The
ottawa
garbage
is
half
full
of
recyclables
and
organics
and
that
these
things
so
clearly,
as
we
all
know,
need
to
go
into
the
blue
box,
the
black
box
or
the
green
bin.
It's
also
important
to
note
that
the
ontario
waste
management
association
has
documented
a
pending
crisis
in
private
landfill
capacity
in
the
province,
and
this
was,
I
think,
again
noted
in
the
presentation.
N
For
example,
waste
collected
in
orleans
has
to
travel
a
very
long
way
to
get
to
trail
road
in
curbside
collection,
trucks,
with
only
10
ton
capacity.
Delivering
that
waste
to
a
closer
approved
private
facility
in
the
east
end
is
definitely
worth
considering
reviewing
options
for
more
efficiencies
of
the
trail.
Road
landfill
itself
are
hopefully
part
of
the
ongoing
best
practice
and
remember
the
old
adage
in
in
the
landfill
business
was
that
a
landfill
is
like
soft-sided
luggage.
N
You
can
always
stuff
in
a
little
bit
more
improved
compaction
or
some
on-site
pre-disposal
processing
may
provide
some
space
gains,
and
it's
certainly
worth
looking
at
enlarging.
The
footprint
of
the
existing
landfill
within
the
current
property
should
be
approached
of
real
caution,
given
the
historical
challenges
of
leachate
migration
at
the
site.
N
In
addition,
such
an
expansion
would
conflict
with
a
primary
zero
waste
vision
and
send
the
wrong
signals
to
the
public
that
the
city
is
moving
to
accept
more
waste
rather
than
the
reverse
of
accepting
less
waste
and
diverting
more
wastewatch
ottawa
has
real
concerns
about
the
proposed
future
residential
waste
management
technologies
pilot
program.
We
sincerely
hope
that
this
is
not
a
back
door
to
allow
the
likes
of
plasco
or
some
other
unproven,
garbage
technology
to
jump
the
queue
and
ignore
and
undermine
the
solid
waste
master
planning
process
whatever
might
be
conducted
under
the
framework.
N
Finally,
we
need
to
change
public
attitudes
in
order
to
reduce
waste
generation
and
provide
the
systems
and
incentives
to
reach
attainable
waste
prevention
and
diversion
rates
consistent
with
a
zero
race
vision,
rather
than
looking
for
some
unproven
engineered
fix
and
for
my
hostile
comment,
I'd
like
to
to
to
volunteer
my
garbage
compactor
if
the
city
needs
a
little
bit
more
extra
work
and
help
at
trail
road,
I
have
a
small
garbage
compactor
here.
That
might
in
fact
help
in
some
small
way.
Thank
you
very
much.
K
Yes,
councilman
bernard
thanks,
chair
yeah.
I
have
about
a
million
of
those
in
my
house
from
the
kids
and
I'm
willing
to
donate
them
as
well.
I
will
I'll
crush
them
myself
if
they
don't
go
soon,
so
I've
crushed
a
few
just
by
accident.
So
thank
you
duncan
for
the
presentation.
I'm
wondering
your
thoughts
because
you,
this
is
a
helpful
delegation,
but
I'm
wondering
your
thoughts
on
on
something
I
had
posted
it
to
social
media.
The
comments
we
were
getting
back
around
our
waste
management
strategy.
K
So-
and
I'm
just
saying
this
because
the
comments
I
got
back
when
I
posted
those
three
curbside
options
were
really
there
was
trepidation
and
it
was
more
so
saying,
look
at.
Why
aren't
you
putting
green
bin
into
multi-residential
buildings?
First
and
foremost,
before
you
start
doing
any
curbside,
why
aren't
you
there
are
comments
about
piloting
some
type
of
technology?
K
Why
aren't
you
piloting
technology?
They
also
mentioned.
Why
aren't
you
going
to
producers
first
right?
It's
their
problem,
they're
the
packaging,
the
issues
that
are
coming
out
there,
so
I
was
getting
a
lot
of
that
feedback
when
I,
when
I
posted
that
because
people
are
reticent
on
their
own
side
of
things
and
they
want
to
make
sure
we're
doing
all
those
other
pieces.
K
I
see
this
as
a
a
potential
to
say.
Look
at
these
five
six
options.
We
are
doing
some
of
those
pieces.
Salt.
The
producer
pay
is
on
the
provincial
agenda
and
we've
been
grappling
with
that
and
implementation.
Our
city,
but
curbside
is
only
re,
is
very
relevant,
given
how
much
waste
comes
from
the
curbside
and
we
need
to
do
our
part
there
as
well
and
multi-res
will
be
part
of
that
as
we
move
along
the
solid
waste
master
plan.
K
So
I
see
I
see
this
as
a
the
framework
anyway,
the
beginning
of
that
discussion
to
be
able
to
say
look
it
we're
all
doing
our
part,
and
everyone
needs
to
contribute
to
this,
including
through
this
framework.
I
have
some
concerns
about
the
private
landfills,
for
example,
and
how
that
technology
would
work,
what
we're
looking
at
similar
to
what
you've
mentioned,
but
on
the
whole
of
it.
This
type
of
framework
to
me
is
important
to
to
push
that
sort
of
dialogue
into
the
right
direction,
which
is
we
all
need
to
contribute.
N
Well,
to
first
you
respond
to
the
to
the
options
on
collection.
I
think
the
city
needs
to
move
on
those
aggressively
as
soon
as
possible.
It's
not
on
either
or
it's
not
just
restricting
what
gets
put
out.
It's,
not
just
user
pay.
It's
these
things
all
all
together
and
limiting
what
in
fact
can
be
put
out.
N
I
think
that
needs
to
be
done
right
away,
and
I
think
the
sooner
the
city
adopts
those
kind
of
strategies,
the
the
better
clearly
organics
and
multi-residential
absolutely
critical,
and
I
think
again,
these
are
all
things
that
need
to
be
done
sooner
rather
than
later,
and
I
guess
that's
one
of
the
challenges
in
all
of
this
is
how
do
you
work
this
all
together,
I'm
giving
stars
with
resources
and
contracts
and
place
and
so
forth
the
piloting
technologies?
One.
As
I
said,
I
raised
some
concerns
about
this.
N
N
You
know
anaerobic
digestion,
systems,
I'm
not
at
all
convinced
you
need
to
invest
money,
time
and
effort
and
piloting
things
in
ottawa
that
I
think
frankly,
you
are
going
to
find
are
available
elsewhere,
certainly
do
a
scan
of
what's
out
there,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
you'll
need
to
do
anything
directly
and
operationally
here
in
ottawa,
because
I
think
you'll
find
there's
enough
evidence
and
experience
and
actual
operating
on
scale
facilities.
I
think
that's
one
of
the
criteria
you
need
to
put
in
mind
here.
N
I
mean
there
are
lots
of
great
ideas,
but
are
they
scalable?
Will
they
work
for
the
kind
of
challenge
we
have
and
the
volumes
we
have?
And
I
think
that's
where
you
need
to
look
at
what's
what's
working
and
when
I
would
argue
that
if
you're
going
to
develop
any
technology,
you
need
to
make
sure
that
it's
proven
at
scale
has
been
operating
successfully
for
a
minimum
of
five
years.
K
Yeah,
those
are
those
are
helpful
comments
and
I,
I
appreciate
them
very
much
one
other
point:
I
had
an
emotion
on
the
table
and
that's
for
a
meeting
like
that
would
take
place
next
week.
You're
on
the
the
sounding
group
sounding
board
group,
which
is
what
ottawa
is.
Are
you
free
next
week
to
take
part
in
that
meeting.
N
F
Thanks
jaren,
thank
you,
mr
bury
for
your
presentation,
always
appreciate
listening
to
your
insights
and
that
of
the
next
speaker.
I
think
I
heard
you
at
the
beginning
of
your
presentation
talked
about
the
need
to
concurrently
plan
for
both
today
and
increasing
substantially
diversion
rates,
which
is
a
common
thing.
We
theme
we've
had
for
many
years,
but
also
the
importance
of
planning.
For
tomorrow
there
there
is
a
finite
life
life
to
this
landfill.
F
Do
you
think
that
conversation
and
those
meetings
should
be
happening
now,
or
are
you
suggesting
that
all
efforts
should
be
made
to
no?
We've
still
got
lots
of
room?
We
still
have
a
lot
of
waste,
that's
not
being
diverted
that
can
be
diverted
from
the
landfill.
That's
where
energies
and
efforts
should
be
going.
N
N
That,
in
fact,
is
the
center
for
organics
management
and
so
on,
and
basically
the
disposal
of
those
things
which
cannot
be
diverted
elsewhere.
And
if
we
do
that,
if
we
get
to
that
kind
of
rate
of
65
70
80
waste
diversion,
we
will
extend
the
life
expectancies
of
that
landfill.
Well
belong
beyond
the
life
expectancy
of
anybody
on
this
call,
and
that
doesn't
mean
we.
A
A
B
B
It
doesn't
really
make
much
sense
if
you
think
about
how
the
strategy
so
far
has
been
using
and
frequently
referring
to
the
hierarchy.
Waste
hierarchy
where
we
should
be
starting
is
not
with
the
residuals,
especially
since
what
mr
berry
has
just
said.
We
we've
got
a
bit
of
time.
This
is
an
answer
to
mr
brock.
Mister
councillor,
brockington's
question.
We
have
a
bit
of
time
and
I
sorry
I
guess
I
could
only
use
the
time
of
year
as
an
explanation
for
this,
but
it's
kind
of
gruesome.
B
But
what
this
puts
me
in
mind
of
is
imagine
an
emergency
room
in
a
big
city
and
they
get
a
guy
in
there,
who's
bleeding
all
over
the
place,
and
instead
of
these
staff
paying
attention
to
the
source
of
the
blood
and
cutting
that
off,
they
have
the
staff
directed
to
call
the
funeral
homes
in
the
morgue
I
mean
this
is
this
is
crazy.
We,
what
you
need
to
do
is
stop
the
flow,
that's
where
the
effort
should
be
going.
B
So
I
don't
like
the
idea
that
we're
going
into
some
detail
here
about
a
residual
strategy
as
if
that
was
the
the
problem.
The
problem
is
what's
going
in
now.
Mr
bury
has
just
referred
to
how
we
could
get
much
of
our
diversion
way
higher
than
it
is
now.
Why
are
we
not
seeing
that
going
on
now?
Instead
of
all
the
staff
time
being
spent
planning
and
planning
for
plans,
I
just
don't
get
it.
So,
just
let
me
read
to
you
something
that
counselors
that
you
have
received.
B
B
B
The
rationale
for
rushing
ahead
with
this
component
of
the
plan
ins
ahead
of
the
rest
of
the
urgency
of
trail
road
landfill
is
said
to
be
reaching
capacity
near
years
earlier
than
previously
thought.
Current
estimates
are
that
will
reach
capacity
by
2036,
even
though,
although
even
that
is
yet
to
be
confirmed
through
the
proposed
consultancy,
so
rushing
ahead
in
advance
of
more
fulsome
picture
may
be
premature.
B
B
These
would
be
the
priority
elements
earmarked
for
an
urgent
strategy
to
get
started
prior
to
the
approval
of
the
long-term
solar
waste
management
plan,
not
a
residual
management
strategy
which
should
only
come
after
all.
Other
options
have
been
fully
exhausted
so
back
to
the
emergency
room.
I
just
don't
see
it.
I
can
understand
why
you're
rushing
ahead,
because
I
think
a
lot
of
municipal
councils
have
been
fooled
by
the
same
thing
and
that
is
the
the
attractiveness
of
a
simple
facile,
expensive,
of
course,
solution
of
burning
this
stuff.
B
B
Thank
you,
oh,
oh,
by
the
way
mr
councillor
menard's
motion,
which
I
think
was
sort
of
like
walk-on,
about
sending
it
back,
sending
this
this
thing
back,
so
that
they
can
have
a
proper
review
by
the
team
that
duncan
bury
is
on,
and
he
can't
be
there,
but
somebody
else
will
be,
I
think,
is
really
really
a
very
worthwhile
way
to
go.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
and
just
to
be
clear.
The
intent
was
to
meet
with
the
stakeholders
group
later
on,
but
because
of
the
con,
I
guess
I
won't
talk
to
you
thanks
if
you're
going
to
laugh
at
me,
while
I'm
trying
to
respond
to
you.
Thank
you,
mr
tansy.
Any
questions
for
mr
tanty,
seeing
none
thanks
for
your
time.
A
K
Menard
thanks
thank
you
chair,
maybe
just
so
that
we've
got
a
good
understanding
of
where
we're
headed
on
the
framework.
That's
in
front
of
us,
because
you've
got
the
framework
you're
going
to
be
doing
some
work.
The
stakeholder
group
will
be
involved
and
you're
going
to
be
coming
back
with
recommendations
to
us
based
on
that
work
that
you've
that
you've
done.
K
D
Thank
you
for
the
question
council
bernard
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
clarify
the
residual
waste
management
strategy
is
setting
up
the
framework
for
if
the
solid
waste
master
plan
determines
a
pilot
program
is
required,
we
need
a
set
of
criteria.
We
need
all
the
considerations
that
might
be
in
place
that
we
should
ask.
Should
the
solid
waste
master
planning
process
determine
a
pilot
is
warranted.
E
So
further
to
what
andrea
had
mentioned,
the
intent
of
this
is
to
develop
that
framework.
So
in
such
time
when
the
solid
waste
master
plan
is
brought
forward
for
council's
consideration
in
early
2023
again
as
part
of
the
master
planning
process,
we
are
exploring
a
number
of
different
technologies
through
the
long
list
of
options
we've
identified.
K
Okay,
thank
you
just
two.
More
quick
points
is:
how
are
we
doing
on
the
feedback
for
the
three
different
curbside
options
that
we
had
put
out
there?
What
what
are
we
hearing
back
and
and
what
can
we
expect
from
that,
and
then
the
second
question
will
go
to
andrea
I'll?
Let
you
get
to
that.
First,
thanks.
E
Sure,
thank
you
counselor
through
you,
mr
chair.
We
are
we're
currently
in
the
process
of
compiling
all
that
feedback
and
analyzing
all
the
feedback.
We
are
tracking
towards
bringing
back
all
that
feedback
to
our
counselor
sponsors
group
for
discussion,
presentation
on
the
results
early
next
year,
so
planning
at
this
point
january,
in
which
we'd
be
in
a
position
to
move
forward,
bringing
forward
a
policy
recommendation
for
council's
consideration
by
the
end
of
q1
of
next
year.
K
Okay,
thank
you,
I'm
looking
for
more
insight.
Maybe
I'll
call
you
separately
and
and
chat
that
way,
but
I
understand
it
takes
time
to
get
the
recommendations
sorted
out
for
for
next
year.
I
guess
to
the
point
of
that
the
delegation
was
making
about
not
needing
a
pilot
for
any
type
of
technology
that
we've
got
a
lot
of
pilots
out
there
that
have
either
been
done
or
have
been
tested.
Previously.
K
E
So
as
that
waste
composition
changes,
there
may
be
opportunities
in
the
future,
not
necessarily
within
the
next
five
years.
It
might
be
within
15
years,
20
years,
depending
on
the
composition,
to
potentially
look
to
industry
and
facilitate
those
opportunities
to
pilot
as
a
municipality,
we
have
access
to
that
waste
stream.
So,
to
support
some
of
these,
these
organizations
that
need
access
to
that
waste
stream
to
be
able
to
support
some
of
these
technologies.
E
F
Thank
you,
chair
with
respect
to
the
communications
plan
that
is
being
contemplated.
I
do
support
education
plan.
You
wanted
to
focus
from
what
I
understand
on
the
landfill
itself.
Can
we
or
can
I
suggest
that,
in
addition
to
all
the
messaging
about
diversion
and
why
that's
important
and
we'll
get
to
that
in
a
second-
that
we
really
have
to
inform
taxpayers
that
another
landfill
is
a
quarter
billion
dollars?
F
Instead
of
these
three
streams,
we're
shooting
ourselves
in
the
foot,
we
do
have
an
easy
solution,
use
the
three
colored
streams
that
we
have
already
to
ensure
that
this
doesn't
go
in
the
garbage,
and
I
think
we
have
to
play
a
bit
here
and
basically
talk
to
the
people
who
are
living
in
multi-unit
dwellings
that
don't
have
green
bin
and
say
you
need
to
put
some
pressure
on
your
property
manager.
You
need
to
put
some
pressure
on
your
landlord
to
get
these
facilities
in
your
buildings.
F
I
was
in
the
federal
government
for
16
years.
No
organic
collection
all
anywhere
didn't
want
to
do
it.
So
it's
it's.
We
can
speak
to
our
residents
and
the
folks
whose
waste
we
collect,
but
we've
also
got
a
pressure.
I
think,
within
the
city,
the
other
industries,
because
we
will
not
make
it
without
everyone
rowing
in
the
same
direction.
So
just
a
few
comments
there.
My
question
to
the
past
speaker
about
planning
for
another
landfill
or
another
source
doesn't
mean.
F
F
D
D
F
A
Thank
you
very
much.
I
just
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
comments
about
stuff
people,
drawing
conclusions
about
what
the
hell
we're
doing
here
today,
but
the
report's
clear:
it's
got
three
things
in:
it
approved
framework
of
a
strategy
just
a
framework
of
strategy,
direct
staff
to
develop
landfill
life
calculation
methodology.
So
let's
refine
those
numbers.
A
Let's
make
sure
that
we
have
the
right
numbers
on
the
landfill
right
now
we
think
it's
2036
to
2038.,
let's
go
out
there
and
make
sure
those
numbers
are
right
and
direct
staff
to
report
back
on
the
feasibility
of
expanding
the
cap
capacity
of
the
trail
waste
facility.
Are
we
expanding
the
landfill
nope?
Are
there
any
recommendations
here?
Expand
the
landfill,
no
any
recommendations
here
that
are
actually
putting
our
garbage
and
other
landfills
nope.
Any
recommendation
here
to
fire
up
an
incinerator
in
the
city
of
ottawa?
No,
oh
yeah!
A
But
we
still
need
to
know
what
we
need
to
do
when
the
time
comes.
We
still
need
the
plan
in
our
back
pocket.
We
can't
just
go
develop
the
plan
when
the
time
comes.
You
know
like
toronto,
ten
years
shipping
their
garbage
somewhere
with
no
landfill,
so
they
can
have
to
go
out
and
find
another
landfill,
so
they
just
buy
a
landfill
and
summer
municipality
toronto's
garbage
going
to
somewhere
else.
A
That's
not
a
plan.
Sit
and
wait.
Is
not
a
plan.
Council
broken.
That's
right.
We've
all
said:
none
of
us
want
a
new
landfill.
None
of
us
want
a
landfill
everyone.
Every
rural
council
has
a
landfill
in
their
ward.
Some
of
us
have
two:
we
don't.
We
don't
want
them,
but
we
need
to
plan
to
where
we're
going
and
the
best
thing
we
can
do
is
plan
to
ensure
we
never
have
to
open
another
landfill
and
that's
what
it's
always
master
plan
is
about.
A
It
doesn't
mean
we
ignore
the
other
stuff
too.
So
the
report
in
front
of
us
I'm
seeing
it
for
the
questions
to
staff
the
first,
the
motion
from
a
council
member.
So
this
motion
directs
staff
to
to
go
ahead
and
meet
with
the
stakeholder
astounding
board
before
stakers
there
cut
me
off,
I
was
trying
to
say
that
we
were
going
to
be
the
staff
were
committed
to
bringing
this
forward
to
stakeholder
standing
board
later
on,
as
they
develop
the
framework
as
they
develop
the
framework
as
we're
directing
them
to
do.
A
Our
staff
have
been
meeting
with
these
stakeholder
groups
throughout
the
entire
development
of
this.
It's
always
master
plan.
So
that's
not
overly
surprised,
but
based
on
the
comments
that
we've
heard
today,
council
married
want
to
ensure
that
that
we
do
run
this
framework
development
by
them
before
it
goes
to
council.
So
we'll
do
that
and
if
there's
comments
made
at
that
meeting,
then
we
asked
staff
to
report
back
to
myself
and
the
vice
chair
should
we
need
to
make
any
refinements.
A
Thank
you.
So
the
report
in
front
of
us,
the
standing
committee
on
environmental
protection,
water
and
waste
management
recommend
the
council.
One
approve
the
framework
for
the
residual
waste
management
strategy,
including
scope
and
timelines,
to
extend
the
life
of
the
trail
road
trail
waste
facility
landfill
to
direct
staff
to
develop
a
landfill
life
calculation
methodology
to
use
more
predictive
indicators
to
accurately
assess
the
remaining
life
of
the
trail.