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From YouTube: Standing Committee on Environmental Protection, Water and Waste Management - 20 October 2020
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Standing Committee on Environmental Protection, Water and Waste Management meeting of October 20, 2020
Agenda and background materials can be found at http://www.ottawa.ca/agendas.
A
Good
morning,
everyone
just
want
to
confirm
with
chris
that
we
have
quorum.
It
looks
like
we
do,
but
just
want
to
confirm.
B
We
can
go.
A
A
It's
actually
the
weather,
it's
not
very
great,
but
it's
great
in
here,
because
we're
all
on
zoom
all
right.
So
welcome
to
the
standing
committee
on
environmental
protection,
water
and
waste
management
for
this
tuesday
october
20th
2020
the
year
that
keeps
on
giving
this
is
agenda
11
of
this
term
of
council,
so
declarations
of
interest,
none!
Does
anyone
have
a
declaration
of
interest
against
climate
change
like
they
would
benefit
from
climate
change
action,
anyone
that
would
benefit
directly
from
climate
change
action?
No
one!
Okay,
jacker
is
interesting.
There's
none.
A
A
You're
carried,
I'm
sure
you
all
went
through
it
with
fine
tooth
comb,
communications,
response
to
inquiries,
residential
front
yard,
gardens
an
expansion
of
community
gardens.
I
believe
that
was
counselor,
brockton
and
clean
water
supply
and
private
wells
from
counselor
king,
so
we've
all
received
that
so
that's
good.
A
So
our
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
from
our
advisory
committee:
environmental
stewardship
advisory
committee,
which
is
the
environmental
stewardship
advisory
committee
2020
to
2022
work
plan.
Now
I
don't
believe
I
thought
I
was
anticipating
that
perhaps
we
might
have
a
representative
from
the
standing
from
the
advisory
committee
speak
here
tape.
I
don't
believe
we
do.
A
No
worries
no
worries
so
we'll
we'll
simply
just
approve
it
so
that
the
standing
committee,
environment,
protection,
water
and
waste
management
approve
or
recommend
that
council
approve
the
2020
to
2022
environmental
stewardship
advisory
committee
work
plan
as
detailed
in
document.
One
is
that
item
gary.
Do
you.
E
Carry
it
in
chair,
if
I
may,
I
just
if
I
could
just
say
one
quick
word
about
this.
A
E
Wanted
to
to
thank
these
members
as
well,
they
they've
I've
been
attending
their
their
meetings,
as
vice
chair
of
the
committee
and
and
just
want
to
thank
chair
chris
nanda
and
all
the
members
of
this.
This
group,
who
have
you
know
dedicated
their
volunteer
time
to
to
assisting
our
own
work
plan
and
advising
us.
So
I
just
wanted
to
big
thank
you
to
to
all
those
folks
for
putting
together
this.
This
work
plan
thanks
chair.
A
E
Yes,
that's
that's
right
chair,
so
I
can
read
through
it,
whereas
the
standing
committee
on
environmental
protection,
water
and
waste
management
agenda
11
was
distributed
to
members
and
published
to
ottawa.ca
on
october
8th
and
the
report
for
this
item
was
distributed
and
published
on
october.
A
All
right,
I'm
carried
carrie.
Thank
you
very
much.
So
that
is
the
agenda,
so
it
is.
This
is
our
obviously
our
main
item.
B
Sheriff
let
me
interrupt,
there
are
also
a
technical
motion
to
correct
one
of
the.
E
Okay,
I'm
just
loading
it
up
here,
okay,
so
this
is
a
just
a
technical
amendment,
whereas
report,
whereas
this
report
presents
the
energy
evolution,
ottawa's
community
energy
transition
strategy,
including
the
energy
and
emissions
modeling,
results,
financial
analysis
and
overview
of
the
20
supporting
projects
and
a
proposed
spending
plan
for
the
2019
hydro,
auto
dividend
surplus
and
whereas
the
financial
section
of
the
executive
summary
contains
a
clerical
error.
E
Therefore,
be
it
resolve
that
the
standing
committee
on
environmental
protection,
water
and
waste
management
recommend
to
counsel
that
the
sentence,
the
financial
analysis
projects
that,
in
order
to
meet
the
100
scenario,
cumulative
community-wide
investment
from
2020
to
2050
will
total
52.6
billion.
With
the
present
present
value
of
29.7
billion
on
page
8
be
replaced
with
the
financial
analysis
projects
that,
in
order
to
meet
the
100
scenario,
cumulative
community-wide
investment
from
2020
to
2050
will
total
57.4
billion
with
a
present
value
of
31.8
billion.
A
A
Okay,
so
we're
gonna
have
a
presentation
on
this.
We
have
speakers
as
well,
has
also
been
if
you
should
have
been
copied
on
some
of
the
submissions
from
members
of
the
public
as
well,
so
we
have
about
over
a
dozen
or
so
submissions
that
have
been
submitted
to
us
that
won't
be
speaking
today,
but
they
are
important
to
to
look
through
and
to
read
so
we'll
go
ahead
with
the
presentation.
A
At
this
point
I
know
we
had
pretty
a
pretty
decent,
lengthy
presentation
on
the
9th
of
october,
when
we
first
introduced
this
at
the
technical
briefing.
So
I've
asked
staff
to
kind
of
come
back
and
do
a
bit
of
a
brief
or
summary
of
that,
but
still
covering
the
the
salient
points
of
the
of
the
report
and
then
we'll
move
to
to
delegations
and
then
to
questions
from
members
of
committee.
A
So
I
believe
we
have
our
energy
evolution,
team
and
jen
brown,
I
believe,
is
doing
the
presentation.
F
F
So
this
morning,
as
the
chair
mentioned
I'll,
be
providing
a
shortened
version
of
the
presentation
given
during
the
technical
briefing
for
energy
evolution
on
october
9th
for
those
that
were
unable
to
attend
the
technical
briefing
and
wish
to
hear
the
full
presentation.
Please
visit
the
city
of
ottawa's
youtube
webpage,
so
today's
presentation
will
include
a
brief
overview
of
the
staff
report,
recommendations,
an
overview
of
what's
included
in
the
energy
evolution
strategy
and
reporting
and
next
steps
next
slide.
Please.
F
This
list
is
a
high
level
overview
of
what
is
included
in
the
final
strategy
at
the
core
of
energy
evolution
is
an
energy
and
emissions
model
and
financial
analysis
that
projects
the
scale
and
scope
of
action
and
investment
required
to
achieve
the
city's
long-term
target
to
reduce
greenhouse
gas
emissions
by
100
by
2050
or
it's
staff
referred
to
in
the
strategy.
As
the
100
scenario
based
on
the
model,
20
community
and
municipal
projects
have
been
identified
to
accelerate
action
and
investment
within
the
next
five
years.
F
F
To
achieve
the
100
scenario,
actions
are
required
in
five
sectors:
land
use
and
growth
management,
buildings,
transportation,
waste
and
renewable
natural
gas
and
electricity.
Four
to
the
five
sectors
are
represented
here.
Land
use
is
embedded
throughout
based
on
the
model.
The
buildings
and
transportation
sectors
are
projected
to
account
for
roughly
75
of
greenhouse
gas
reductions
in
2050..
F
Next
slide,
a
total
of
39
actions
were
modeled,
of
which
these
five
actions
rose
to
the
top
as
having
the
most
significant
cumulative
greenhouse
gas
emission
reduction
potential
to
achieving
the
100
scenario,
the
top
five
actions
are
to
electrify
personal
vehicles.
Retrofit
residential
and
commercial
buildings
divert
organics
from
the
landfill
and
uses
organic
material
to
create
renewable
natural
gas
and
transition
to
zero
emission
commercial
fleets.
Collectively
these
five
actions
combine
for
roughly
eighty
percent
of
projected
cumulative
greenhouse
gas
emission
reductions
required
next
slide.
F
The
next
few
slides
identify
the
20
projects
be
undertaken
over
the
next
five
years.
Most
of
these
projects
are
to
be
led
by
the
municipality
and
are
to
be
undertaken
in
collaboration
with
community
partners
within
land
use.
Staff
will
integrate
energy
and
climate
mitigation
priorities
into
the
new
official
plan
and
supporting
master
plans
within
buildings.
Staff
will
undertake
projects
that
accelerate
and
finance
energy
efficiency.
F
Retrofits
in
residential
and
commercial
buildings
addresses
infrastructure
and
utility
requirements
for
new
ways
of
heating
buildings,
improve
building
design
and
construction
through
the
introduction
of
a
high
performance
building,
standard
or
development
standard
story
and
improved
building
energy
performance
in
municipally
owned
buildings.
Next
slide
within
transportation
staff
will
undertake
projects
that
encourage
personal
electric
vehicles
and
zero
emission
vehicles
for
the
commercial,
municipal
and
transit
fleets,
and
it
will
also
undertake
projects
that
shift
personal
vehicles,
vehicle
trips
to
more
cycling,
walking
and
transit
trips.
F
If
we
switch
the
waste
and
renewable
natural
gas
sector
staff
will
undertake
projects
that
divert
organic
waste
from
landfill
to
reduce,
reduce
the
emissions
from
managing
waste,
as
well
as
explore.
Creation
of
renewable
natural
gas
next
slide
and
within
electricity
staff
will
undertake
a
strategy
to
develop
local
or
regional
renewable
electricity
supplies
and
to
advance
zero
emission
generation.
At
the
provincial
level,
staff
will
also
be
exploring
projects
that
enable
greenhouse
gas
emission
reductions,
such
as
coordinating
communications
with
senior
levels
of
government
utilities,
stakeholders,
the
broader
community
and
other
ontario.
F
Next
slide,
a
community-wide
financial
analysis
was
undertaken
to
analyze
actions
that
have
financial
impacts.
The
financial
information
presented
in
the
strategy
represents
high
level
or
class
d
estimates
that
are
currently
uncommitted
and
unfunded
capital
operational
needs.
The
municipality
alone
will
not
accomplish
the
scale
of
investment
required.
F
F
There
is
a
net
financial
benefit
to
society,
starting
in
2032
when
the
net
annual
savings
and
revenues
exceed
the
annual
investments.
In
the
short
term
annual
community-wide
capital
costs
are
higher
as
upfront
investments
in
buildings,
vehicles,
energy-related
equipment
and
renewables
are
made
that
will
lead
to
long-term
savings.
G
F
Staff
are
also
recommending
that
comedian
council
approve
a
proposed
spending
plan
for
the
2.6
million
hydro
ottawa
dividend
surplus.
The
spending
plan
will
be
used
to
support
energy
evolution,
priority
projects,
leverage
federal
provincial
funds
where
possible
and
implement
energy
efficiency
conservation
and
renewable
energy
generation
projects.
F
These
risks
range
from
insufficient
financial
support
to
regulatory
barriers
and
compliance
issues
to
competing
priorities
in
aggressive
timelines,
as
well
as
changes
in
behavior
policy
and
best
practices
related
to
covid19
next
slide
to
mitigate
these
risks.
The
energy
evolution
project
team
will
continue
to
work
with
staff
and
community
partners
to
build
out
energy
evolution
projects,
information
and
recommendations
to
support
project
implementation
will
be
shared
with
the
tiger
team
comprised
of
the
city's
senior
leadership
team.
F
The
climate
change
council
sponsors
group,
the
environmental
stewardship
advisory
committee,
a
community-wide
governance
structure
and
community
partners
to
align
and
coordinate
priorities,
work
plans,
budgets,
communications
and
advocacy
efforts.
Additionally,
the
energy
evolution
project
team
will
continue
to
work
with
our
municipal
colleagues
across
the
country
to
share
information,
best
practices
and.
H
F
Learned
next
slide
staff
intend
to
bring
forward
an
annual
status
update
on
the
energy
evolution
projects
and
any
recommendations
to
advance
those
projects
as
part
of
the
climate
change
master
plan.
Annual
updates
staff
also
intend
to
rerun
the
energy
and
emissions
model
in
five
years
time
to
assess
how
the
city
and
the
community
are
tracking
towards
achieving
the
100
scenario
and
to
determine
what
actions
should
be
prioritized.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
jen
appreciate
that
presentation
and
thanks
as
well
to
to
yourself
and
to
the
team
for
all
the
work
that
you've
done
to
get
us
to
this
point,
and
I
know
it's
been
four
years
and
a
lot
of
dedication
and
commitment
on
behalf
of
you
and
your
team,
andrew
flowers
and
the
whole
group
over
there,
so
we're
going
to
move
to
to
delegations.
I
will
first
thank
those
who
submitted
comments
as
well
of
support.
We
have
them
from
array
of
of
groups.
A
Noted
groups
in
the
area,
including
you
know,
marco
pagani,
provided
us
something
from
the
ottawa
community
foundation.
We
have
correspondents
of
support
from
hydro,
one
hydra
ottawa,
the
canada,
green
building
council,
the
ottawa
board
of
trade.
We
also
had
a
letter,
so
we
have
to
get
windmill
development
and
enbridge,
but
we
also
had
a
letter
just
this
morning
from
the
treasury
board,
which
to
me
is
pretty
much
a
blank
check
for
50
billion
dollars.
I
mean
it
doesn't
say
it.
A
But
if
you
read
between
the
lines
you
see
it's
there
like
the
50
billion
dollars.
Is
there
it's
just
a
matter
of
us?
You
know
crossing
some
t's
and
dotting
some
eyes.
It's
in
the
letter.
I'm
sure
nick
zenos
knew
that
when
he
wrote
it
to
us
so
we'll
move
right
to
our
delegations
and
our
first
one
is
rob
burns
with
ecology,
ottawa.
G
Good
morning,
chair
and
committee
nice
to
see
you
this
morning,
thanks
for
your
time
today-
and
I
just
want
to
start
my
quick
presentation
by
giving
a
hats
off
to
the
team
at
the
city
for
working
so
hard
on
this.
As
the
chair
mentioned,
this
has
been
years
in
the
making
and
is
obviously
a
product
of
a
lot
of
work
and
a
lot
of
detail,
and
so
we're
really
excited
about
the
level
of
detail
here,
especially
with
regards
to
this
the
long-term
savings
which
jen
just
covered
in
a
presentation.
G
I
think
that's
a
really
important
consideration
with
climate
change,
as
as
we
know
you
know,
the
the
costs
of
an
action
are
always
dwarfed
or
basically,
the
costs
of
action
are
always
dwarfed
by
the
long-term
cost
of
inaction,
and
in
this
case
too,
there's
this.
This
benefit
that
you
can
see
where
the
city
will
will
reap
billions,
and
the
community
will
read
billions
if
it
makes
the
right
investments
upfront.
So
that's
really
encouraging.
I
just
want
to
point
out
a
few
issues
with
with
the
with
the
document
as
well.
G
Just
so
that
the
committee
understands
that
you
know
we
can
take
this
with
a
certain
grain
of
salt,
especially
the
modeling.
I
think
that,
obviously
it's
really
important
it's
really
complex
and-
and
our
hope
is
that
future
iterations
of
the
model
will
capture
some
of
these
important
details.
That
I'll
mention
one
is
that
there
are
gaps
with
regard
to
land
use
in
in
the
model
and
in
the
strategy.
G
We
can
see,
for
example,
that
the
authors
recommend
integration
of
energy
and
climate
mitigation
policies
into
the
new
official
plan
and
supporting
master
plans,
but
there's
no
policy
detail
in
this
area.
Obviously
that's
for
council
to
sort
out
right
and
so
we're
encouraging
council
to
be
bold,
with
the
new
official
plan
and
related
master
plans
to
ensure
that
climate
is
as
strong
as
possible
and
that
intensification
targets
are
strong
because
our
land
use
policy
is
our
transportation
policy
is
our
climate
policy.
Those
things
are
so
tightly
interconnected
and
we
can't
forget
about
that.
G
Second,
I
would
just
also
point
out
the
lack
of
analysis
on
what's
called
embodied
carbon,
which
is
the
the
carbon
that
goes
into
making
things
like
new
developments.
New
highways
new
buildings-
this
is
common.
You
know
this
isn't
the
the
model
is.
Is
you
know
world
class,
as
I've
been
told
by
the
staff,
but
even
world-class
models
have
their
gaps
and
an
analysis
by
clean
energy.
Canada
writes
one
instance
where
they
did
an
analysis
on
a
uk
highway
widening
project
where
76
of
the
project's
total
carbon
footprint
resulted
from
embodied
carbon.
G
So
it's
our
hope
that
the
future
analyses
when
they
rerun
the
model
will
take
this
into
account,
because
I
think
it'll
it'll
be
a
really
important
factor
as
council
considers,
which
project
should
go
ahead
and
tries
to
use
that
climate
lens.
If
the
climate
lens
is
missing,
something
so
critical,
we
might
come
to
the
wrong
decisions
collectively.
G
Third,
I
would
just
caution
again
for
those
of
us
who've
gone
through
the
document.
A
lot
of
the
policy
recommendations
hinge
on
things
outside
of
council's
control.
Obviously,
cities
only
control
so
much
in
terms
of
jurisdictional
power.
But
when
we're
talking
about
a
rapid
uptake
in,
for
example,
electric
vehicles,
we
understand
that
council
only
has
limited
power.
I
would
encourage
council
to
do
all
that.
It
can
and
also
to
leverage
the
advocacy
function
and
ask
the
provincial
and
federal
governments
to
come
to
the
table
to
fund
some
of
these
important
investments.
G
G
As
as
we
know,
the
targets
are
highly
ambitious
and
this
will
require
an
all
hands
on
deck
approach.
So
we
need
to
stop
having
moments
like
we
did
this
summer,
where
we
were
worried
about
whether
or
not
2.6
million
dollars
would
be
clawed
back
from
the
climate
team
and
start
thinking
comprehensively
and
holistically
about
how
we
insert
this
systematically
in
every
budget
going
forward
and
how
we
take
out
of
the
budget.
Some
of
these
things
like
costly
road,
widening
projects
that
do
long-term
damage
to
our
ability
to
to
mitigate
climate
action.
G
A
B
Thanks
rob
for
your
for
your
response.
I
just
had
one
quick
question
in
terms
of
embodied
carbon
is:
are
there
any
specific
models
or
calculators
that
that
you
would
suggest,
based
on
on
your
research,
that
the
city
should
actually
utilize
to
to
to
make
those
calculations.
G
I
don't
have
anything
off
the
top
of
my
head
and
again
counselor
king
in
in
our
discussions
with
the
city
staff.
It's
our
understanding
that
the
ssg
model
is
best
in
class,
so
so,
as
I
said,
even
even
these
great
models
lack
that
lack
this
this
element,
I
can
do
further
research
and
follow
up,
though
I'd
be
very
happy
to
do
research.
I
know
groups
like
clean
energy,
canada
and
some
academic
experts.
G
The
university
of
ottawa
and
elsewhere
have
done
that
kind
of
deep
dive
analysis
on
which
models
have
which
elements,
and
it
would
be
happy
to
bring
that
back
to
to
the
climate
team,
as
well
as
to
your
office.
That'd.
E
Thanks
very
much
chair
thanks
for
all
for
your
presentation,
I'm
curious
to
know
your
your
opinion.
Your
view
on
on
the
20
projects
that
have
been
selected,
the
20
different
projects
that
are
in
there
are.
Are
there
any?
Are
we
missing
some
that
you
think
should
be
in
there?
Are
these
the
right
priorities
that
we've
got
now
that
are
in
this
plan?
Do
you
have
some
feedback
on
that.
G
Yeah
I
mean,
I
think,
based
on
the
analysis,
that's
provided,
I
think
I
think
they're
solid
and-
and
you
know
in
our
in
ecology,
ottawa's
response
to
the
climate
team
we
mentioned
as
much
I
mean
I
think,
that
they're
comprehensive.
They
cover
a
wide
range
of
aspects.
You
know
cover
all
of
the
points
of
our
our
missions,
our
community
emissions,
and
so
I
think,
we're
focusing
on
a
lot
of
the
right
areas.
As
I
said
in
the
presentation,
I
think
there's
a
missing
detail
on
some
of
the
ones,
especially
the
ones
that
are
that.
G
Are
you
know
beyond
the
control
of
this
committee,
which
is
always
a
problem
right
with
siloed
action
at
the
city
level,
and
and
so
so
it's
it's
really
important
that
we
incorporate
a
level
of
detail
and
and
analysis
in
our
land
use
planning
and
our
transportation
planning
that
that
really
understands
that.
But,
given
the
analysis
and
given
the
limitations
of
the
model,
I
understand
the
model
wasn't
meant
to
solve
all
the
problems
right.
The
model
is
is,
is
delineating
a
certain
path
to
get
there.
G
E
Yeah,
I
think
that
the
next
five
years,
you
know
that
that's
what
these
20
projects
are
targeting.
This
is
a
long
term
plan
of
2050,
but
the
those
20
projects
are
really
the
next
five
years.
So
that's
what
we
see
kind
of
in
the
immediacy
so
yeah.
I
appreciate
that
and
thanks
for
being
here
as
always.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
counselor
yeah,
I
think
with
you
know,
when
you
look
at
some
of
the
the
outside
impacts
right
I
mean
when
you
I
mentioned
it
during
the
technical
briefing,
but
the
federal
government
of
the
british
government
investing
in
ford
canada
and
their
operations
in
oakville
to
expand
their
production
of
electric
vehicles
and
what
that
what
that
means
and
what
that'll
contribute
to
the
market
to
make
it
more.
You
know
more
likely
that
these
things
increase
on
the
market
and
then
there's
the
the
charging
aspect.
A
I
know
one
of
the
one
of
the
submissions
we
got
was
sort
of
suggesting
that
well
in
order
to
encourage
that
the
city
needs
to
put
in
more
electric
vehicle
charging
stations,
but
it's
not
just
the
city.
There's,
there's,
there's
a
private
sector
component.
To
that
too,
the
city
doesn't
own
any
gas
stations
in
the
city
of
ottawa,
yet
cars
have
no
problem
getting
around
and
getting
gas.
So
it's
not
all
on
the
city
to
go
out
there
and
start
installing
charges
everywhere.
A
I
know
like
one
of
the
first
petro
canadas
that
I
saw
with
the
charging
station
was
in
napanee.
I
know
the
one
in
brockville
has
one
now:
that's
starting
the
supercharging
station,
so
that's
coming
along
and
these
the
tesla
charging
stations
in
kingston
they're
everywhere.
A
So
it's
there's,
there's
a
lot
of
private
sector
input
to
this
too,
that
we
we
need
to
start
seeing
as
well
across
the
province
to
help
to
help
with
that
and
to
provide
that
that
ability
to
charge
easily
the
city
has
some.
We
know
we're
doing
some
more,
but
certainly
it's
not
us
alone.
So,
thank
you.
Rob
appreciate
your
input
this
morning.
A
I
You
thank
you
very
much
for
letting
us
speak
today.
Are
the
slides,
ready.
I
I'd
like
to
speak
about
community
ownership,
not
just
private
and
not
just
municipal.
At
the
start
of
this
session,
the
chair
mentioned
or
asked
people.
If
anyone
was
going
to
benefit
from
climate
change
or
climate
action,
there
are
many
people
who
see
themselves
as
wanting
to
invest
and
potentially
benefiting
from
serious
climate
action,
and
I
represent
a
thousand
people
who
have
invested
their
money
in
such
action.
Can
I
have
the
orex
slides,
please.
I
Fix
that
okay,
basically
just
I
won't
be
getting
into
too
much
background,
there'll-
be
a
number
of
slides,
five,
five
or
six
slides
each
with
a
picture
of
a
project
that
oreck
has
financed
through
our
membership.
I
We're
a
relatively
new
model
for
canada,
but
proven
model
in
europe
and
parts
of
the
u.s.
Northern
europe
and
parts
of
the
us
there's
over
700
renewable
energy
cooperatives
in
germany
and
the
largest
in
the
world
is
in
belgium,
with
over
50
000
members
and
millions
of
dollars
of
operating
renewable
assets
owned
by
those
members
there.
We
are
okay,
so
next
slide.
Please.
I
So
community
owned,
solar
or
community-owned,
renewable
or
community-owned
energy
retrofits
are
a
proven
way
to
bring
new
capital
to
bear
to
climate
action.
There's
an
urgent
need
to
act
now.
You've
set
very
serious
five-year
targets.
Five
years
is
only
four
years
away.
We
basically
we're
into
the
first
year
already.
I
It's
our
view
and
we've
proven
through
what
we've
done
over
the
last
10
years,
that
there's
a
lot
of
money
sitting
in
people's
wallets
in
people's
bank
accounts
that
are
looking
for
projects.
This
project
is
the
marissa
point
high
school
in
southern
canada,
owned
by
the
french
catholic
school
board.
The
asset
on
the
roof
is
owned
by
our
next
flight.
I
Urec
was
founded
10
years
ago
to
enable
members,
our
members
to
own
and
finance
community
owned
renewable
generation
in
their
community.
We
now
have
over
780
residents
of
ottawa
in
eastern
ontario
as
members
of
rec.
Those
members
have
invested
all
of
the
money
that
we
put
to
bear
in
our
21
projects.
There
are
19
operating
now
and
two
in
the
final
stages
of
construction.
At
this
moment
they
should
be
finished
by
the
end
of
this
month.
I
The
orac
projects
are
on
a
plethora
of
school
board
sites,
one
federal
crown
corp,
affordable
housing
providers,
local
businesses
and
some
farms
next
slide
that
site
that
you
see
is
in
pressland
in
the
banya
samurai
area.
I
What
we're
proposing
is
a
zero
capital
cost
opportunity
for
the
city
this
the
picture
you're
seeing
there
now
is
a
museum
of
science
and
technology.
It's
a
site
that
we
install
finished
construction
on
in
july
of
2019.
It's
been
operating
for
over
a
year
now
there
was
no
capital
expenditure
by
the
gym.
I
They
approved
the
project
as
a
operating
expense,
so
we're
delivering
electricity
to
the
building
on
a
30-year
contract
with
predictable
costs
and
effective
and
driving
down
their
costs,
but
they
have
an
effective,
a
predictable
cost
structure
for
their
electricity
for
the
next
30
years.
We're
also
driving
down
the
peak
demand
in
that
neighborhood.
I
So
the
san
juan
area
is
a
constraint,
is
a
great
constrained
area,
there's
not
enough
lines
and
generation
in
the
area.
You're.
Looking
at
upgrading
that
so
by
having
solar
generating
power
during
peak
demand,
we're
reducing
that
pressure
on
the
local
grid,
which
is
good
for
all
the
rate
payers
in
the
city,
so
that
site
has
been
financed
completely
by
orec
by
our
members
and
the
museum
is
simply
paying
an
operational
cost
to
purchase
the
power
from
us
next
slide.
I
I
This
is
going
to
require
a
lot
of
political
capital
from
city
council
from
the
city
bureaucracy,
to
find
new
ways
to
collaborate
with
players
in
the
community
and
find
ways
to
create
action.
Sooner
than
later,
there
are,
as
somebody
mentioned
earlier,
there's
lots
of
silos,
there's
lots
of
ways
to
defer,
delay
and
avoid
action,
you're
going
to
have
to
find
partners
that
are
ready
and
able
to
build
and
implement
with
public
support
quickly.
I
So
we've
taken
the
liberty
to
look
at
some
of
your
sites
and
sketch
what
a
urex
site
would
look
like.
This
is
the
stittsville
cal
cardell
rec
center.
It's
just
down
the
road
from
the
pierre
demera
school
that
we're
building
solar
on
right
now
in
stittsville.
Stitchville
is
also
a
grid
constrained
area.
There's
a
serious
problem
with
the
power
lines
in
that
area
and
the
ratepayers
are
faced
with
a
significant
cost
upgrade
or
cost
increase
to
expand
the
grid
and
new
transmission
stations
in
the
area.
I
It
would
be
good
for
all
of
us
all
the
ratepayers
and
taxpayers
if
there
was
less
new
power
lines
required
in
that
area.
Putting
this
solar
system
in
place
would
reduce
that
pressure
and
would
enable
power
to
be
generated
on
site,
especially
during
the
peak
summer
months,
without
incremental
new
costs.
Oreck
would
be
would
love
to
finance
that
site
next
slide.
I
Also
in
this
samurai
area,
the
bus
station
would
be
an
ideal
location
that
again
is
across
the
street
from
our
museum
of
science
and
technology
facility
and
also
would
address
the
grid
constraints
of
that
neighborhood.
There's
a
lot
of
new
expansion,
that's
happening
in
that
area,
so
those
two
sites
should
this
city
find
a
way
to
proceed
with
us.
I
We
could
have
them
both
installed
by
next
year,
if
you,
if
we
are
able
to
work
together
on
such
a
such
an
initiative,
there
are
other
sites
as
well,
but
we
thought
we
would
find
two
we'd
present
two
sites
that
were
straightforward,
we'd
love
to
do
something
on
the
train
lines
on
the
new
lrt
system.
The
maintenance
facility
would
be
ideal,
but
there
are
other
issues
that
are
probably
delaying
any
change
of
scope
on
that
contract,
but
that
would
be
another
ideal
opportunity.
I
J
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
becker,
I
I
get
very
excited
when
I
see
a
presentation
like
that,
with
the
possibilities
it
just
sort
of
brings
it
down
to
reality
of
of
what
we
can
do
and
we've
had
conversations
about
the
lrt
stations
for
stage
two
about
possibility
of
doing
that.
I've
asked
staff
about
it
and
they're
still
looking
into
it.
What
what
is
you
were
talking
about
silos?
What
is
it
that
that
stops
these
things
from
from
you
know,
coming
into
fruition,
you
know
government
layers,
there's
there's
always
silos.
We.
I
In
the
solar
world
there
are
building
issues
and
owners,
there's
change
of
use
of
buildings,
there's
the
location
of
where
equipment
is
put
on
the
roof.
So
all
those
things
are
little
things
that
are
set
to
cause
delays.
I
There's
the
timing
of
our
winter
and
summer
spring
and
fall.
You
can't
build
in
winter
here,
there's
heavy
rain
in
the
spring
and
late
fall
so
that
constrains
the
construction
period.
There's
the
interconnection
with
the
hydro
company.
When
we
build
a
net
metering
project
for
self
consumption
on
the
building
we
still
have
to
connect
to
the
grid,
because
the
grid
is
effectively
a
backup
is
the
battery.
I
So
all
of
that
has
to
all
of
those
things
have
to
be
timed
together
and
to
be
fair
to
our
friends
at
hydro
ottawa.
They
are
in
a
changing
world.
The
electricity
system
has
really
not
changed
dramatically
since
it
was
started
100
years
ago.
It
has
gotten
bigger
and
faster
and
there's
more
power
being
delivered,
but
the
idea
of
a
centralized
monopolistic
power
grid
from
big
power
sources
distributed
to
millions
of
small
consumers.
I
New
york,
new
england,
are
moving
much
faster
than
ontario
and
quebec
because
we
still
are
thinking
of
small
remote,
big
power
facilities,
centralized
facilities,
distributing
power
in
one
direction
down
very
long
long
lines
and
the
the
pension
funds
and
the
big
investors
are
looking
at
the
government
to
backstop
all
their
investments.
I
So
ontario
has
60
of
its
power
coming
from
three
nuclear
sites
in
the
province.
That's
a
very
un,
flexible
system,
northern
europe,
belgium
and
germany.
Oh
denmark
and
germany
are
much
more
distributed,
much
more
decentralized
for
a
whole
bunch
of
political
and
cultural
reasons,
but
we
will
go
that
way.
We
must
go
that
way
and
the
hydro
companies
are
slowly
moving
that
direction.
J
Okay,
so
we
need
to
work
with
hydro
ottawa
too,
to
convince
them
more
that
this
is.
This
is
the
future
that
we
need
for
for
climate
change,.
J
A
Thank
you
counselor.
I
don't
see
any
more
questions,
so
appreciate
your
your
submission
today
and
I
believe
we
got
the
an
email
submission
from
your
from
your
group
as
well.
So
thank
you
for
that.
Thank
you.
Great
all.
Right.
B
Thanks
good
morning,
everybody
thank
you
for
the
time
this
week
before
the
committee
today.
Our
submission
goes
into
detail
on
a
lot
of
items
and
I
just
want
to
reinforce
a
few
points
there.
This
morning,
energy
evolution
identifies
a
number
of
actions
and
strategies
that
involve
or
are
related
to,
residential
construction
and
innovation.
B
Global
urges
that
whenever
considering
action
in
this
area,
especially
as
these
various
proposed
programs
become
more
concrete,
that
housing
affordability
continues
to
be
a
priority
along
with
environmental
objectives,
the
top
three
actions
identified
in
the
modeling
as
having
the
largest
cumulative
impact
on
greenhouse
gas
reductions
on
all
impact
housing,
whether
it's
electronic
personal
vehicles,
retrofitting
residential
buildings
or
diverting
organics,
and
using
renewable
natural
gas.
C
B
Expect
to
address
with
staff
and
other
stakeholders,
as
programs
are
developed,
there's
not
enough
appreciation
of
the
energy
efficiency
of
a
home
built
today,
even
just
to
building
code
standards
along
with,
nor
that
residential
energy
performance
can
see
constantly
improving
through
better
design
and
innovative
products.
B
Improving
energy
performance
becomes
exponentially
more
expensive,
the
better
the
housing
it
gets,
and
that
really
leads
me
to
the
item.
I
want
you
to
take
away
from
today
and
that's
the
need
to
properly
support
the
residential
retrofit
accelerator
program.
It's
one
of
the
programs
within
the
module.
I
expect
that
the
high
performance
development
standard
to
receive
a
lot
of
staff
effort
and
resourcing,
but
it's
only
modeled
to
account
for
six
percent
of
greenhouse
gas
reductions.
B
Retrofitting
existing
buildings,
meanwhile,
is
modeled
have
three
times
as
much
impact.
We
build
approximately
7
500
homes,
a
year
of
which
a
portion
is
going
to
fall
under
the
high
performance
development
standard.
There
are
over
400
000
existing
homes
across
ottawa.
The
biggest
opportunity
to
reduce
greenhouse
gas
emissions
and
improve
energy
performance
in
the
housing
sector
is
to
renovate
existing
homes.
Our
resources
and
our
efforts
should
focus
on
the
energy
evolution
projects
that
revealed
us
the
biggest
results,
and
that's
really
the
biggest
point
I
want
to
make
today.
A
A
I
don't
see
any
I
mean,
I
think
your
your
points
on
this
came
up
the
notion
of
housing,
affordability.
A
It
came
up
in
our
discussions
at
the
planning
advisory
committee
as
well
when
we
discussed
you
know
this
and
other
things
with
our
with
our
members
of
the
planning
project
committee,
and
you
know,
I
think
one
of
the
things
I
try
to
reiterate
is
it's
not
just
that
that
upfront,
housing
costs
also
that
long-term
cost
of
owning
a
house
right
and
what
that
operating
cost
would
be,
and
if
there's
ways
to
to
you
know,
maybe
you
might
spend
a
bit
now,
but
your
long-term
investment,
your
long-term
ongoing
your
mortgage
might
take
up
a
bit
more,
but
your
your
your
housing
costs,
your
your
heating
and
energy
costs
will
be
a
little
bit
less
and
it'll.
A
A
You
know
commercial
properties
as
to
where
you
would
benefit
from
from
city-owned
facilities,
but
certainly
with
that
retrofit
program
as
well
is
one
of
the
key
things,
because
we
do
know
that
that's
existing
housing
is
inferior
to
to
new
housing
when
it
comes
to
energy
energy
benefits.
So
thank
you
again
for
your
for
your
comments.
I
don't
see
any
questions
for
you,
so
let
you
go,
but
I
appreciate
you
coming
today
and
providing
your
comments
thanks
for.
A
Thank
you.
So
our
next
speaker
is
the
executive
director
of
the
ottawa
climate
action
fund,
so
he's
likely
bringing
money.
I
mean
this
is
like
he's
only
here
to
say:
I've
got
money
for
you
just
spend
it
free
will
steve
winkleman.
A
K
Fair
enough
chairman
of
committee
members
good
morning
and
thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
present
my
name
is
steve
winkelmann,
I'm
the
incoming
executive
director
of
ocaf,
the
ottawa
climate
action
fund,
which
is
being
incubated
by
the
ottawa
community
foundation.
K
We
see
adoption
of
the
energy
evolution
strategy
as
a
critical
step
toward
implementation
of
actions
that
will
protect
our
environment
and
economy
in
the
coming
decades.
Implementation
of
energy
evolution
will
enhance
sustainable
economic
opportunities
for
ottawa
businesses
and
create
a
net
positive
return
for
the
whole
community.
It
ably
reflects
the
latest
scientific
and
economic
assessments
that
point
to
the
high
opportunity
costs
of
delayed
climate
action.
We
cannot
afford
to
wait.
K
The
ottawa
community
foundation,
in
addition
to
granting
to
local
charities,
has
been
a
national
leader
in
impact
investing
and
has
a
keen
interest
in
establishing
new
backbone
organizations
to
help
drive
positive,
systemic
and
sustainable
change
in
our
community,
which
is
why,
in
early
2021,
we'll
be
launching
ocaf
with
a
mandate
to
unlock
scalable
climate
solutions
for
ottawa
next
slide.
Please
ocaf
is
part
of
a
national
network
of
seven
lc3
centers
low
carbon
canadian
cities
with
a
20
million,
not
billion.
I'm
sorry
endowment
from
the
federal
government
granted
through
the
federation
of
canadian
municipalities.
K
The
ghg
reduction
targets
that
you
set
in
january
will
require
collaboration
across
many
sectors.
As
is
well
explained
in
the
strategy,
the
ottawa
community
foundation
is
willing
and
ready
to
play
a
role
in
that
collaborative
approach.
In
may,
we
signed
an
mou
with
the
city
committing
to
work
together
to
accelerate
greenhouse
gas
reductions
in
the
coming
weeks.
Councilor
moffat
we'll
be
formally
inviting
you
to
serve
on
our
okaf
advisory
committee.
I
hope
you'll
join
us
next
slide.
K
The
deep
analysis
and
extensive
stakeholder
engagement
that
went
into
energy
evolution
is
a
stellar
example
of
the
significant
climate
change
work
already
underway
in
ottawa,
and
we
know
that
energy
evolution
goals
require
more
effort,
more
investment
and
more
coordination
to
catalyze
the
rapid
change
and
deep
transformation
necessary
to
realize
broad
communal
dividends.
We
need
better
alignment
between
public
and
private
and
civil
society
actions.
This
is
why
ocaf
is
being
created
to
align
potential.
K
Our
mission
is
to
scale
impactful
low-carbon
solutions
to
their
full
potential
in
ottawa.
We're
here
to
help
align
carbon
reduction
with
community
benefit
by
enhancing
collaborative
capacity
and
cultivating
investment
opportunities
next
slide,
what
we
build
where
and
how
determines
whether
we
will
thrive
or
suffer
in
the
face
of
climate
change?
We
must
ask
the
climate
question
of
public
and
private
actions,
projects,
plans,
policies,
investments,
do
they
make
it
better
or
worse,
do
they
increase
emissions
or
decrease
them?
Do
they
enhance
resilience
or
increase
vulnerability,
and
do
they
advance
social
inclusion
or
exacerbate
inequities?
K
We
must
answer
the
climate
question
by
collectively
creating
the
conditions
where
public
and
private
spending
is
steered
toward
and
attracted
to
low-carbon,
resilient
and
equitable
solutions.
Next
slide,
ocaf
will
help
stimulate
scallop
of
win-win
solutions
for
businesses
and
the
community
through
grants,
investments,
capacity,
building,
communications
and
advocacy.
K
We
will
support
the
private
sector
in
developing
and
financing
impactful
projects
that
inform
and
inspire
replication,
we'll
partner
with
and
support
ngos
in
civil
society
to
advance
strategic
initiatives
to
overcome
barriers
to
scale-up
and
we'll
share
ottawa
successes
with
and
leverage
best
practices
from
our
partners
in
the
national
lc3
network.
Next
slide,
ocaf's
key
focus
areas
align
well
with
energy
evolution,
priorities.
K
My
final
slide,
one
minute:
smart
approaches
to
achieving
ottawa's,
aggressive
and
essential
greenhouse
gas
reduction
goals
that
are
designed
to
also
solve
for
employment,
mobility,
equity,
affordability
and
environmental
quality
dovetail
with
the
ottawa
community
foundation's
aspiration
to
contribute
to
making
ottawa
all
it
can
be.
Okaf
looks
forward
to
partnering
with
you
to
help
bring
energy
evolution
from
an
impressive
plan
to
impactful
actions.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
steve
appreciate
that
submission
and
look
forward
to
the
invites
for
the
advisory
committee.
So
do
you
have
any
questions
for
mr
winkleman.
A
L
Excellent
excellent
so
good
morning
to
you,
chair
and
counselors:
congratulations,
first
of
all
to
seeing
this
strategy
home,
I
think
it's
been
a
long
road
and
nobody
will
be
able
to
claim
that
ottawa
has
not
done
its
homework.
L
Several
thousand
pages
of
analysis
and
reports
six
years
spanning
two
terms
of
council,
so
I
have
for
you
several
messages
from
cafes
community
associations
for
environmental
sustainability.
Actually,
four
messages:
one
implement
it's
great
to
have
a
well-considered
strategy,
a
good
plan
so
now
that
we
have
that
now
is
the
time
to
implement.
Now
is
the
time
to
turn
the
corner
on
that
emissions
graph
and
counselors.
I
think
this
is
your
steering
wheel
to
turn
two
urgency.
L
A
friend
of
mine
pointed
out
to
me
that
we
expect
emergency
vehicles
to
move
a
lot
faster
than
the
regular
flow
of
traffic.
You,
the
council,
have
declared
a
climate
emergency.
So
now
we
expect
you
to
drive
this
emergency
vehicle
much
faster
than
the
regular
flow
of
business
at
city,
hall
and
counselors.
This
is
your
pedal
to
step
on
and
there
are
projects
under
the
control
of
the
municipalities,
and
we
do
have
regulatory
instruments
on
the
table.
L
Three
money
and
I'll
unpack
this
a
bit
more
because
I
think
we
are
also
in
the
pre-budget
period.
We
would
like
to
see
assurance
that
city
staff
will
make
strong
efforts,
no
best
efforts
to
leverage
funding
from
all
available
sources
to
fund
energy
evolution.
L
This
is
our
ask,
and
I
I
can
unpack
that
a
little
bit
a
no
money
should
be
left
lying
on
the
table
at
fcm,
as,
for
example,
was
the
case
for
the
e-buses
or
perhaps
still
is,
or
at
federal
ministries
that
are
trying
to
fund
green
infrastructure.
No
proposals
to
other
funding
facilities
should
be
left
unwritten.
There
are
international
sources
philanthropists
and
not
forgetting
our
own
community
investors
such
as
the
orex
and
the
ocaf
that
we
just
heard
from
we
look
forward
b.
L
We
look
forward
to
climate
action
funded
in
budget
2021,
and
I
think
that
you
need
to
get
the
climate
funding
off
the
unpredictable
surplus,
hydro
dividend
and
on
to
the
city
budget
itself
c.
We
look
forward
to
a
long
range
financial
plan
for
making
the
capital
investments
that
energy
evolution
calls
for
d.
L
Fourth
and
last
cafes
would
ask
for
your
leadership
and
attention
to
make
sure
that
this
long-range
plan
to
2050
this
plan
to
move
ottawa
onto
a
low-carbon
development
path
will
receive
policy
support
in
the
new
official
plan.
We
need
your
leadership
to
ensure
that
the
city
does
not
invest
in
fossil
fuel
infrastructure,
henceforth,
but
switches
to
a
low
carbon
path
and
avoids
climate
risk.
This
requires
a
carbon
lens
and
an
equity
lens
at
the
same
time,
and
we
need
to
do
this
at
every
level
from
the
official
plan
right
down
to
our
procurement
policies.
L
So
let's
do
it
for
the
kids
future
generations
of
ottawa
residents
that
we
hope
will
thrive
here
at
the
intersection
of
three
rivers
we
are
on
this
journey
together.
Cafes
can
very
much
help
to
engage
the
public,
the
community
associations
and
the
residents
and
we're
happy
to
offer
you
our
partnership
in
getting
on
this
path.
A
C
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair.
First
of
all,
just
to
comment
the
beginning
of
the
presentation,
you're,
making
a
lot
of
analogy
to
emergency
vehicles
and
us
being
behind
the
wheel,
and
I'm
assuming
that
was
all
in
electric
vehicles.
Correct.
C
Just
just
just
glorifying-
and
I
want
to
I
want
to
pick
up
on
your
last
point,
though
your
your
offer
for
cafes
to
assist
the
city,
I'm
wondering
if
you
could
flesh
that
out
a
little
bit.
How
do
you,
how
do
you
see
cafes,
assisting
on
on
the
you
know,
moving
energy
evolution
forward?
What
what's
you
know
what
what
concrete
things
or
what
proposals
do
you
have
that
that
staff
could
look
at
and
say
yeah?
No,
this
may
work,
and
this
this
would
be
a
good
initiative
or
good
partnership.
L
L
So
at
the
at
the
practical
level,
what
we
are
working
on
is
a
strategy
where
we
would
be
engaging
with
community
associations
and
citizens
associations
and
and
offered
to
familiarize
and
present
to
them
what
the
city
has
been
cooking
up,
because
I
mean
with
respect
to
read
through
the
thousands
of
pages
of
supporting
documents
and
energy
evolution,
there's
very
few
people
that
have
achieved
this
feat
and
are
now
standing
on
top
of
that
mountain
of
paper
looking
into
the
bright
future,
so
we
would
be
in
a
position
to
represent
familiar
rise,
communicate
some
of
this
good
work.
L
We
are
currently
working
actually
on
a
proposal
to
environment
and
climate
change,
canada
because,
as
you
know,
there's
federal
money
on
the
table,
we'll
see
whether
we
can
get
their
support
to
run.
What
sounds
like
a
zillion
workshops
in
all
these
different
neighborhoods,
where
we
have
connections
to
community
associations,
and
we
would
then
partner
also
with
the
city
and
the
city
staff
to
to
do
this
at
so
so
some
of
that
public
engagement
and
communications
work
we
can
roll
out
into
neighborhoods
at
a
more
strategic
level.
L
We
like
to
think
that
we
monitor
and
keep
an
eye
on
on
what
is
happening,
the
pace
at
which
happening.
When
there's
delays,
we
try
to
to
wave
our
hands
and
say:
hey.
You
were
supposed
to
quote
table
this
at
q4
and
we're
not
seeing
it.
L
Where
is
it
please
to
hopefully
keep
things
on
track
and
keep
the
whole
climate
change
master
plan
integrated
also
with
the
other
master
plans,
there's
a
lot
of
complicated,
sideways
work
and
then,
lastly,
in
terms
of
the
I
don't
know,
if
you
want
to
call
budget
staff
account
strategic,
but
it's
certainly
an
important
piece.
As
I'm
sure
all
of
your
counselors
are
very
aware.
E
Thanks
very
much
chair
and
for
being
here
angela
and
great
work.
As
always,
we
are
going
to
need
you
and
your
help
in
in
rolling
this
out,
and
particularly
around
you
know,
the
ambassador
network,
the
that
is
one
of
the
key
projects,
one
of
the
20
projects
under
energy
evolution,
and
I
see
cafes
as
a
major
component
of
that
I
I
am
curious,
and
this
is
where
I'm
most
seized
with
those
20
projects,
because
it's
the
actual
action
we're
going
to
see
moving
forward
in
the
next
few
years.
E
It's
not
going
to
be
20
years
out.
This
is
this
is
the
here
and
now
so
I
am.
I
am
wondering
what
folks
views
of
are
those
of
those
projects
are
and
and
what
you
you
see
as
if
there's
anything
missing
in
those
projects.
If
you'd
like
to
see
something
added
or
or
you
know,
promoted
there,
there
are
those
projects
there
under
energy
evolution,
that's
our
next
step
and
that's
what
I'm
I
most
want
to
focus
on
in
the
next
little
while
so
getting
those
you
know
fun
to
getting
those
actions.
L
Absolutely
so
so,
first
of
all
I
mean
it
it's
it's
pretty
huge.
The
changes
so
breaking
the
the
findings
of
the
model
and
the
analysis
down
into
20
pieces
makes
it
a
bit
more
manageable.
So
to
some
extent,
what's
what's
called
a
project
in
some
cases
is
really
like
a
sub
sector
strategy.
L
What
I'm
a
little
bit
afraid
of
in
terms
of
these
projects,
is
that
we'll?
Well?
Okay?
So
now
we
have
broken
it
up
into
20
pieces.
So
now
what
we're
going
to
take
two
years
to
develop
a
strategy
for
1
20th
of
the
piece
and
after
that
it'll
come
back
again
to
committee
and
break
it
down
into
20
little
further
pieces
and
then
we're
just
we're
going
to
run
out
of
time
right,
I
mean
we'll
be
in
in
the
third
term
of
council
without
seeing
implementation.
L
So
that's
a
little
bit
of
a
fear,
so
I
would
urge
that
once
there's
a
decent
plan
for
a
project.
You
then
delegate
it.
You
then
say:
okay
get
the
show
on
the
road.
We
want
this
to
happen,
make
it
so
right,
and
rather
than
keep
this
like,
hamster
wheel
of
breaking
it
further
down
and
and
asking
for
more
detail
and
having
another
year
of
delay.
L
So
I
think
yes,
I
support
the
20
projects,
but
let's
get
on
with
it.
In
terms
of
your
question
on
on,
what's
missing,
I
mean
we've,
we've
done
very
earnest
work,
and
not
just
me,
but
but
I've
had
input
from
lots
of
members
and
we've
sent
very
detailed
comments
in
august
to
the
team.
Let
me
just
point
out
two
things
that
that
aren't
really
there
and
one
is
this
concept
of
having
a
financial
vehicle.
L
I
think
that
again,
if
we
break
everything
into
small
small
financial
pieces,
what
we
miss
is
the
opportunity
for
ottawa
to
do
to
use
the
municipal
leverage
that
we
have
to
do
capital
project
financing.
L
Some
of
those
projects
are
big,
so
we
need
project
finance
for
that,
so
that
that
whole
finance
area
and
bringing
it
together
into
a
vehicle,
I
think,
is
missing.
There
has
been
a
little
bit
of
talk
about
a
revolving
fund
behind
the
scenes.
The
other
thing
that
I
think
is
really
an
underutilized
regulatory
tool
is
the
the
whole
use
of
community
improvement
plans.
L
I
think
that,
as
as
an
economist,
I
look
at
incentives
and
disincentives
pretty
much
as
as
flip
side,
but
the
same
kind
of
thing
so
sure
the
municipality
can't
levy
a
carbon
tax.
We
don't
we
don't
have
that
ability,
but
the
community
can
very
much
link
a
rebate
to,
for
example,
energy,
efficient
buildings.
L
So
if
we
had
a
community
improvement
plan
that
provided
incentives
and
set
us
a
bar
of
rewarding
building
owners
for
having
highly
energy
efficient
buildings,
that
would
that
could
be
huge.
So
I
think
that
that's
something
that
could
be
looked
at
and
and
obviously
the
city
is
ideally
placed
to
make
that
intervention,
because,
if
you're
sitting
at
the
infrastructure
bank
of
canada
and
you
have
a
huge
bag
of
money.
Well,
how
exactly
are
you
going
to
reach
a
particular
homeowner
or
commercial
building
owner?
L
E
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
for
that
that
detailed
answer,
I
think,
that's
helpful,
particularly
you
know
either
revolving
fund
or
some
type
of
where
you
know
you
see
savings
from
what
you're,
what
you're,
starting
with
in
terms
of
building
retrofits
or
lighting,
changes,
etc
and
roll
those
back
into
to
more
investments.
I
think
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
I'll
have
a
notice
of
motion
later
today.
That
does
speak
as
well
to
some
of
some
of
those
pieces.
So
thanks
for
that.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
I've
never
been
sitting
at
anywhere
with
a
big
bag
of
money,
sock
full
of
pennies,
but
that's
a
story
for
a
whole
other
day
that
I
don't
want
to
get
into.
So
thank
you,
angela
for
your
for
your
contribution
today
and
previous
contributions
and
future
contributions.
J
M
To
meet
you
all
and
to
congratulate
you,
as
other
speakers
have
done,
on
the
good
work,
that's
been
done
and
the
leadership
that
you've
provided
in
the
community
I
represent.
Well,
they
don't.
I
represent
a
a
small
committee
at
the
first
unitarian
congregation,
that's
looking
at
earth
and
what's
happening
on
the
earth
environmental
action
working
group
I
have.
M
What
I
would
like
to
offer
is
to
echo
just
as
what
angela
was
speaking
about
the
need
for
nimble
delegated
projects.
I
was
fortunate
enough
this
last
week
to
attend
the
economist.
Had
an
interview
conference,
world
finance
people
got
together.
Mark
carney
was
the
opening
speaker.
M
What
they
spoke
about
was
the
importance
right
now
of
having
nimble
teams
of
people
to
action,
to
to
write
for
reporting
to
be
crisp
for
authorities
to
be
delegated.
We
know
what
needs
to
be
done.
I
I
I
encourage
implementation
at
that
level.
M
They
also
spoke
about
which
what
we
all
know
is
that
climate,
that
climate
risk
is
financial
risk,
so
that
beautiful
graph
that
you
showed
what
happens
in
2032
could
add
to
the
bag
of
pennies
scott
that
you're
talking
about
for
the
city,
I'm
just
an
individual
taxpayer
and
they,
they
ward,
very
proud
of
the
work
that
you've
done
to
protect
the
bay
coming
into
andrew
hayden
and
along
the
cross.
M
Canada
trail
excellent
work,
pulling
the
sand
out
of
britannia
bay
beach,
another
mitigation
that
had
to
be
done
as
an
impact
from
climate
emergency,
but
our
little
our
little
group
of
people
is
working
at
the
first
unitarian
to
raise
awareness
of
these
issues.
We've
focused
four
years
of
our
congregational
life
to
address
climate
emergency
and
how
we,
as
a
small
community
in
the
west
end,
can
work
with
our
neighbors
to
again
increase
resiliency,
and
I
guess
the
last
thing.
I
wanted
to
say
that
this
plan
is
bold.
M
It's
good,
please
run
with
it
you're
providing
leadership,
and
our
committee
is
very
proud
of
the
work
you've
all
done.
So.
Thank
you.
No
questions.
Please.
M
Okay.
Okay,
sorry,
I'm
no
expert!
You
are
impressive!
All
of
you,
the
work
you're
doing
is
amazing.
Run
with
that
ball.
You
know
the
community's
behind
you.
Oh
the
other
thing
they
said.
Oh,
this
is
great
integrated
thinking
seriously.
These
were
people
from
europe
everywhere
they
were
there.
You
zoom
talking
about
integrated
thinking,
so
health,
social
housing,
climate
transportation
and
that's
what
you've
pulled
together
in
the
plan
so
keep
running
with
that
ball.
Thank
you.
J
J
It
takes
groups
of
people,
small
groups
of
people
to
in
a
community
to
to
make
change,
and
I
think
you're,
a
very,
very
good
example.
The
unitarian
church
has
has
done
a
lot
of
good
work
on
that.
J
I
want
to
commend
them
and
please
continue
to
to
talk
to
us
about
your
ideas
and
my
door's
open
to
to
to
listen
because
that's
where
the
best
ideas
come
from
frankly,
and
we
have
to
continue
to
listen,
I
don't
think
we'd
be
here
today
having
these
conversations,
if
like-minded
people
like
yourself,
did
not
come
forward.
So
I
think
that
you
have
to
continue
to
do
that.
There's
there's
plenty
of
ideas
and
some
of
them
are
small,
but
that's
that's!
Okay!
That's
good!
J
We
just
heard
from
other
presenters
that
it's
a
whole
bunch
of
small
ideas
that
make
a
difference
together.
So
thank
you
for
that.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Ms
glass
appreciate
your
submission
today
and
for
being
here,
so
that's
it
for
our
our
delegations,
so
just
want
to
thank
everyone
who
who
did
come
today
on
our
on
our
zoom
to
to
provide
comments
and
support
as
well
as
again.
The
folks
I
mentioned
before
that
have
previously
submitted
correspondence
to
us
very
much
appreciated,
not
just
coming
here
and
speaking
of
support,
but
also
the
offer
of
collaboration,
and
you
know
different
kinds
of
support.
A
Like
actual
meaningful,
you
know
cooperation
with
us
to
help
us
move
this
forward
because,
like
we
said
multiple
times
like
you,
many
of
you
said
this
is
not
something
that
the
city
does
on
its
own.
This
has
to
be
done
with
multiple
groups
pulling
in
the
same
direction.
I
know
we
had
one
one
email
I
just
got
this
morning
from
from
someone
who
had
said
that
all
asking
the
federal
government
for
this
much
money
for
such
a
small
population.
A
What's
the
point?
Okay,
like
I,
don't
even
have
a
response.
The
notion
was
just
that.
Why
why?
Why
would
you?
Why
would
you
bother
asking
for
for
any
money
because
they're
not
going
to
give
it
to
you,
because
it's
just
it's
just
too
much,
it's
just
too
much
for
the
cost
and
it's
interesting
argument,
especially
for
someone
who
is
a
noted
opponent
of
landfills,
because
in
reality,
a
lot
of
the
steps
that
we
take.
A
A
lot
of
the
things
that
are
in
the
climate
changes
master
plan
are
part
of
this:
go
through
every
every
department
at
the
city.
A
They
impact
the
transportation
master
plan,
the
solar
waste
master
plan,
the
official
plan,
it's
all
there,
it's
all
embedded
in
the
other,
in
the
other
plans
that
we're
currently
developing
we're
currently
working
on
to
make
sure
that
this
is
something
that
kind
of
infiltrates
everywhere
and
has
an
impact
everywhere,
including
on
ensuring
we
don't
create
new
landfills.
But
just
some
some
perspectives
are
fascinating.
So
we'll
move
now
to
questions
and
comments
from
members
of
the
committee
and
other
counselors.
A
Of
course
I
know
councilor
hart
has
joined
us
this
morning,
which
appreciates
councillor
judas.
Of
course,
we
heard
from
council
cavanaugh
councillor
fleury
is
here
who
aren't
on
the
committee
but
have
joined
us
today,
so
really
appreciates
you
taking
the
time
to
to
be
here
with
us
as
well,
so
we'll
go
ahead,
we'll
start
and
counselor
menard
is
the
first
one
up.
E
Okay,
thanks
very
much
chair,
and
I
I
just
have
a
you
know,
a
fairly
simple
question
and
it
you
know
in
the
words
of
jed
bartlett.
What's
next,
what
are
we?
E
What
are
we
doing
to
advance
the
next
steps
here
and
if
you
could
just
be,
you
know
succinctly,
let
us
know,
I
understand
we're
going
to
each
standing
committee
as
a
project's
developed
and
that
standing
committee
based
on
its
you
know,
authority,
will
consider
these
projects
of
these
20
projects
for,
but
I
you
know,
there's
some
urgency
in
terms
of
our
own
ghg
reduction
targets
by
2025
to
see
a
43
reduction,
and
so
that's
five
years
away.
E
So
how
are
we
accelerating
these
projects
to
the
to
the
to
the
team
staff
team
and
what
it?
What
is,
what
are
the
next
steps
that
you
see
critical
steps
and
timeline
thanks,
chair.
H
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Well,
the
good
news
is
that,
as
was
pointed
out
by
some
of
the
speakers
today,
we
are
at
a
critical
point
to
move
into
implementation
and,
as
we
heard
from
the
speakers,
we've
got
partners
in
order
to
do
that,
and
not
only
are
the
partners,
our
external
partners,
many
of
which
we
receive
letters
of
support
from,
but
also
the
very
robust
internal
city
team
that
we
have
with
us
today.
So
what's
next
implementation,
and
the
good
news
is
that
we
are
well
on
our
way.
H
In
some
of
these
cases,
we
will
continue
to
do
the
work
of
embedding
climate
considerations
through
the
key
plans,
policies
and
projects
which
the
corporation
is
bringing
forward.
We
will
continue
to
partner
with
external
partners,
like
some
of
those
here
today,
by
providing
letters
of
support
by
providing
information
by
providing
technical
advice
where
possible
and
of
course,
we
will
work
with
them
on
both
the
community-led
projects
or
the
ones
where
the
city
could
benefit
from
their
technical
expertise.
E
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
This
works
very
important.
Thank
you
for
what
you've
done
to
advance
this
file.
There's
there's
a
lot
that
can
be
gained
by
the
city
here
and
those
those
projects
you've
identified.
I
was
asking
people
to
identify
gaps,
there's
not
many
in
that
those
20
projects
you've
identified.
I
think
those
are
the
right
ones.
We've
picked
the
right
one,
so
you
know
we
we
do
need
to
move
now
and
just
appreciate
all
your
work.
On
this
I'll
hand,
it
back
to
you,
chair.
A
Thank
you,
mr
vice
chair,
so
we're
gonna
be
technically.
Riley
is
next,
but
counselor
harder
is
with
us
today
and
she
is
only
on
the
call
for
a
little
bit.
So
I'm
going
to
let
her
go
next.
Also
she's
been
here
longer
so
riley
sorry
go
ahead.
Counselor.
N
Yeah,
I'm
kind
of
my
own
ecology,
with
the
being
the
oldest
people
by
a
person
by
a
long
shot
on
council,
and
I
mean
a
long
shot.
We've
even
had
kind
of
like
tests
about
that
over
the
years,
eli
being
one
of
them
listen.
I
think
this
is
great.
I
I'm
here
today
I
have
an
appointment
with
our
newest
counselor
in
five
minutes
and
that's
why
I
appreciate
you
letting
me
go
next.
N
I
think
this
is
really
really
important
work
and
I
don't
think
that
all
of
you
and
definitely
people
in
this
city
are
aware
of
some
of
the
other
things
that
are
going
on
that
are
absolutely
not
just
trend
setting,
but
certainly
unique,
and
I
would
I
would
cite,
for
example,
a
tour
of
a
plant
that
the
mayor
and
I
took
on
boris
o'kane
last
friday,
it's
called
abec
and
it's
going
to
be
remarkable
in
the
development
industry.
N
So
right
now,
for
example,
a
building
a
single
house
produces
about
two
20-foot
dumpsters
that
we
take
to
west
carlton.
Of
course
you
know
we
have
our
own
trail
road,
but
that's
not
the
stuff
that
goes
there.
N
N
The
fight
that
cause
that
chair
moffatt
and
I
have
been
putting
forward
to
fight
for
barn
sale
interchange
will
be
game
changing
on
reducing
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
Just
imagine
having
every.
N
I
would
love
to
come
back
and
do
a
presentation
on
on
some
of
those
things
and
including
what
we're
doing
at
our
smart
farm
in
the
north,
like
across
the
street,
from
bar
haven
on
the
ncc
fields.
It
is
remarkable
and
we're
doing
it
in
a
pan
canadian
approach.
N
So
if
you
have
time
and
subsequent
meetings,
let
me
know
and
I'll
be
happy
to
come
back
for
those
purposes,
because
I
think
you
know,
we've
got
to
celebrate
the
things
that
we're
doing
that,
aren't
costing
us
a
lot
of
money
but
are
going
to
have
a
significant
impact.
So
thanks
very
much
for
letting
me
speak
and
thanks
everybody
for
today.
A
Thank
you,
councillor
harder.
You
know,
I'd
be
happy
to
have
you
on
a
future
agenda.
I
I
could
even
hold
a
special
meeting
just
for
you,
no
okay.
She
said
that.
N
A
N
A
Okay,
fair
enough,
no,
I
appreciate
that.
I
think
you
know
the
the
comments
about
burnsdale
are
important
as
well,
because
it's
it's
not
just
you
know,
we
heard
rob
speak
about
widening
roads
and
what
that
does-
and
you
know
are
we
are
we
making
the
most
out
of
our
existing
infrastructure?
You
know:
are
there?
Are
there
tweaks
that
we
can
make
to
our
existing
infrastructure
to
make
them
better
to
take
pressure
off
of
other
roads?
That
would
reduce
the
need
for
those
large
winding
projects.
A
Prince
of
wales
has
been
one
for
years.
I've
kind
of
you
know
pushed
forward
said
we
need
it,
but
I
the
more,
I
think
about
it.
The
more
I
realized
that
is
there.
Are
there
other
opportunities?
You
know
we
need
other
road
connections
rather
than
enlarging
the
ones
we
already
have,
and
certainly
through
the
pandemic
and
the
shift
in
people's
work
habits.
A
The
pressure's
off
those
roads
and
you
know,
can
we
can
we
maintain
that
that
reduction
in
pressure?
Because
if
we
maintain
that
that
itself
is
a
game
changer
in
terms
of
what
we're
talking
about
for
future
investment
into
our
roads
and
making
sure
that
we're
prioritizing
the
projects
that
we
desperately
need
for
24
hours
a
day
and
not
just
for
the
three
hours
of
peak
traffic
a
day?
So
no
good
comments,
and
I
appreciate
that
so
councillor
brockington.
B
Thank
you,
chair
and
good
morning
to
you
thank
you
for
staff,
two
staff
for
their
presentation
today,
but
for
their
years
of
work
getting
us
to
this
place.
I
think
the
first
group
of
local
environmentalists
I
met
with
happened
to
be
angela
and
other
ottawa
south
residents,
so
it's
it's
funny.
Six
years
later,
seeing
this
come
together
in
on
some
working
groups,
last
term
of
council,
where,
quite
frankly,
there
was
frustration
expressed
by
the
lack
of
progress.
So
we've
we've
certainly
moved
forward
and
very
happy
to
see
this.
B
The
cost
of
of
not
doing
this
is
far
greater
than
the
cost
that
we
see
outlined
in
the
report
is
not
just
a
financial
cost.
It's
sort
of
the
long-term
health
and
social
costs
that
our
communities
will
see
by
ignoring
the
real
threats
of
of
climate
change
and
inaction,
really
cannot
be
even
a
consideration.
We
must
do
what
we
can.
The
real
change
is
going
to
be
made
by
cities,
municipalities
across
the
planet,
that
we
have
a
great
ability
to
to
effect
change,
and
we
have
to
demonstrate
that
we're
ready
to
act.
B
So
it
absolutely
is
a
bold,
ambitious
plan.
A
few
questions,
mr
chair
and
I
I
want
to
repeat
them,
because
I
think
they're
very
important
to
help
the
public
better
understand
this
project
and
one
is
I'll.
Ask
it
exactly
as
I
did
at
the
briefing,
and
that
is
the
independent
analysis
that
has
been
done
that
has
been
contributed
all
along
during
this,
this
pro
project
to
make
sure
that,
what's
before
us
is
reasonable,
it's
achievable
that
we're
living
in
reality.
B
Certainly
a
lot
of
critics
have
criticized
this
plan
as
being
not
realistic,
not
achievable,
so
I
would
like
staff
to
to
list
the
the
independent
analysis
that's
been
done
so
I'll
just
yield
the
floor
at
this
point.
H
Thank
you
for
the
question.
As
we
discussed
at
the
technical
briefing,
we
have
worked
with
technical
experts
from
the
beginning
of
this
process,
so
starting
in
2015,
we
established
a
series
of
working
groups.
We
established
those
working
groups
to
affect
the
major
areas
where
we
know
our
emissions
come
from
and
we
worked
with
those
working
groups
over
the
last
number
of
years
to
do
a
series
of
technical
pathway
studies
which
described
both
where
the
emissions
came
from
and
some
of
the
opportunities
that
we
should
be
looking
at
in
order
to
meet
council's
targets.
H
L
H
Development
industry
in
the
architect
industry,
we
worked
with
community
organizations
like
envirocenter,
who
has
done
countless
audits
and
supported.
Many
residential
retrofits
worked
with
organizations
like
hydro
ottawa
and
infari
on
understanding
where
some
of
the
opportunities
may
be
not
only
at
residential
levels,
but
also
at
a
commercial
level
on
the
transportation
side
of
things.
Obviously,
we've
worked
with
our
colleagues
in
transportation
services,
both
the
transit
team,
as
well
as
a
transportation
planning
team.
We've
worked
with
federal
agencies
like
nrcan,
where
we've
applied
for
funding
or
sought
their
expertise
on
a
range
of
topics.
H
We've
worked
with
community
organizations
like
the
electric
vehicle
council
of
ottawa
and
virtual
or
now
kimi
noto
for
different
perspectives
there.
So
I
could
go
on
with
other
examples
like
that,
but
it
gives
a
it
gives
a
flavor
of
the
type
of
organizations
that
we
have
worked
with
separate
from
that.
H
The
model
itself
has
been
developed
based
on
a
global
model
by
the
world
resources
institute
with
several
partners.
So
it's
a
global
protocol
for
this
kind
of
work
and
those
technical
experts,
either
our
internal
partners
or
our
external
partners
provided
local
input
where
possible
to
improve
the
assumptions,
the
best
practice,
research
or
the
academic
research.
That
was
used
as
the
foundation.
B
H
Absolutely
well
energy
evolution
is
part
of
is
one
of
eight
priorities
outlined
in
ottawa's,
climate
change,
master
plan
under
the
climate
change
master
plan.
We
have
committed
to
doing
annual
reports
on
each
of
the
eight
priorities,
so
we
will
come
back
and
do
an
annual
report
on
energy
evolution
and
the
status
of
those
20
projects.
How
it's
moving
forward,
separate
from
that
to
gauge
the
progress
that
we're
making
on
how
we're
tracking
towards
our
targets,
we
will
bring
forward
the
annual
community
and
corporate
greenhouse
gas
emission
inventories.
H
As
part
of
that
annual
report
council
approved
that
climate
change
master
plan
in
january,
and
we
aim
to
bring
forward
the
first
annual
report
and
those
corporate
and
community
greenhouse
gas
inventories
this
december.
So
we
will
be
back
in
front
of
you
by
the
end
of
the
year
to
provide
an
update
on,
on
the
other
eight
priority
on
the
other
priorities.
H
We
have
also
committed,
through
this
staff
report
and
the
strategy
to
rerun
the
model
in
five
years
and
in
the
model
we
identify
some
of
the
gaps
which
have
been
identified
earlier
today.
Rob
barnes,
for
instance,
spoke
about
the
gap
related
to
embodied
carbon,
and
we
have
ourselves
identified
that
as
a
gap,
something
to
be
considered
when
we
rerun
that
model
in
five
years
and
to
our
colleagues
across
the
corporation
who
are
working
on
the
official
plan
and
supporting
master
plans.
B
We,
or
at
least
I
did
received
an
email
the
other
day,
focusing
on
heat
supply
and
economic
opportunities
for
the
city.
In
this
regard,
and
the
I'll
just
say,
letter
writer
was
critical
that
the
city's
plan
is
short
on
heat
supply.
Can
you
comment
on
this?
Please.
H
Well,
what
I
would
say
is
that
one
of
the
20
projects
we
do
identify
community
heating
strategy
as
a
as
a
core,
a
core
area
for
us
to
consider
over
the
next
five
years.
The
the
issue
that
you
identify
is
related
to
heating
using
biomass,
so
typically
using
as
an
example,
a
type
of
wood
to
create
heat.
H
We
have
steered
away
from
that
intentionally.
We
had
conversations,
and
our
consultants
had
conversations
about
biomass
through
the
technical
pathways
studies
and
the
individual
that
you
identified
has
been
involved
in
this
process
since
the
beginning.
So
a
combination
of
recommendations
from
our
consultants,
based
on
best
science,
international
best
practices
and
academic
research,
suggests
that
we
should
not
consider
biomass
because
it's
not
necessarily
carbon
neutral.
H
So
our
consultants
made
that
recommendation,
we
accepted
it.
We
also,
we
also
left
it
out,
because
carbon
sequestration
is
part
of
the
climate
change
master
plan,
it's
another
of
the
eight
priorities
which
has
been
identified
and
also
in
conversation
with
potential
partners
in
the
city
like
pspc
through
the
federal
government.
We
found
that
they
were
moving
away
from
biomass
because
of
concerns
related
to
carbon
neutrality
and
so
a
combination
of
global
science,
best
practices,
consultant
recommendations
and
local
context
left
us
to
leave
biomass
out
now.
H
That
said,
given
that
we
have
community
heating
as
one
of
our
20
projects,
we
will
be
looking
at
a
range
of
options,
and
although
we've
proposed
these
20
projects
over
the
next
five
years,
we
are
certainly
not
married
to
them
as
they
are
currently
written.
They
will
be
further
developed
and
refined,
as
the
process
continues.
B
B
I
don't
expect
an
answer
today,
but
I
I
do
want
to
plant
the
seed
that
we
need
to
develop
some
sort
of
outreach
campaign
with
our
colleagues
provincially
and
federally
and
think
of
a
way
how
both
myself
and
counselor
tyranny
can
advocate
and
push
our
strategy
at
amo
and
fcm
respectively.
So
I
just
want
to
plant
that
with
you
and
happy
to
discuss
further.
A
Yeah,
no,
I
think
that's
that's
a
good
idea.
I
mean
why
not,
why
not
make
an
attempt
with
the
three
of
us
and
whoever
else
is
interested
to
set
up
a
meeting.
Obviously
virtually
it
makes
it
somewhat
easier
with
the
with
our
local
we
we
can
do,
except
when
we
can
do
local,
fps
and
local
mps
whatever,
but
yeah.
That's
a
good
idea
to
bring
that
out
and
to
present
this
to
them
with
even
get
you
know,
jen
or
andrea,
to
be
a
part
of
that
and
present
this.
A
I
think
that
would
be
a
smart.
This
is
a
plan
that
we
need
them
on.
Absolutely.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
bert
counselor,
clutier.
D
Thank
you
very
much
and
scott.
Thank
you
for
your
leadership
on
on
this
issue
and
to
the
vice
chair
also
and
staff.
Thank
you
for
your
tireless
work
on
this.
It
is,
it
is
long
time
and
to
the
community
stakeholders
that
that
who
spoke
today
and
and
who
have
written
to
us.
Thank
you
for
your
advocacy
and
your
work
and
simply
put
it
is
crystal
clear
to
me
that
we
need
to
achieve
this.
D
This
is
one
of
the
most
important
reports
we're
going
to
consider
in
in
this
term
of
counsel
and
and
but
the
fact
is
we're
doing,
making
serious
decisions
that
are
going
to
hold
future
staff
and
future
councils
to
commitments
down
the
road.
It
sets
a
course
of
action
to
to
about
2050
and,
of
course,
as
was
said
that
the
cost
of
not
acting
is
unfathomable.
D
The
the
report
calls
in
real
dollars
in
current
dollars
about
30
billion
dollars,
and,
and
we
have,
we
don't
have
that
money
in
the
bank
and
and
staff.
If
I
think
on
slide
11
this
year,
I
just
want
to
set
the
table
the
financial
table.
D
D
I
think
that's
the
financial
environment
that
we
are
setting
up
just
in
the
next
term
of
counsel,
and
as
the
chair
said,
I
don't
know
if
you
said
it
today
in
the
technical
briefing
and
it's
quite
clear:
we
can't
do
it
alone.
We
cannot
do
this
without
the
federal
and
the
provincial
government
at
the
table
actively
and
with
other
organizations,
certainly
not
with
the
tax
structure
that
we
have
with
with
municipal
taxes.
D
Ms
keller
herzog
and
I
believe
miss
glass
alluded
to
the
they
use
the
word
being
nimble
and
having
the
capacity
to
take
advantage
of
the
opportunities
that
will
come
forward
and
higher
levels
of
government.
I
believe
will
come
forward
with
the
stimulus
programs
to
recover
and
we
will
need
to
jump
on
those
opportunities
when
they
become
available.
So
my
question
to
staff
is:
how
can
we
arrange
our
departments
affairs
staff
to
be
able
to
jump
on
those
opportunities?
D
We
need
to
be
ready
and
certainly
cities
all
across
canada
is
where
climate
change
action
will
be
will
have
the
most
impact
it's
where
90
of
our
populations
live
in
canada.
D
So
if
staff
can
address
how
we
can
be
ready
to
jump
on
those
opportunities
to
react
within
weeks
or
months
when
those
opportunities
come
from
the
federal
and
the
the
provincial
government,
because,
again
with
the
financial
picture
that
I
painted
a
little
bit
and
with
the
reality,
we
cannot
do
this
alone,
and
we
want
this
to
succeed,
and
I
believe
that
is
where
the
the
the
rubber
hits
the
road
with
respect
to
getting
things
done.
Can
staff
comment
on
that.
H
Absolutely
thank
you
for
the
question.
Well,
I
think
what
we
have
right
now
is
a
plan
before
you
which
positions
as
well
to
take
advantage
as
opportunities
arise.
We
have
established
relationships
with
our
colleagues
internally
across
the
corporation
so
that
we
are
well
positioned
to
support
them.
If
and
when
they
identify
opportunities,
we
ourselves
are
monitoring
and
taking
advantage
of
any
opportunities
that
we
identify.
H
We
have
submitted
a
number
of
funding
proposals
to
a
range
of
organizations
to
advance
this
work.
We
have
identified
projects
specifically
for
economic
recovery
and
stimulus
funding.
When
and
if
available,
we
have
established
internal
working
groups
with
staff
and
external
partners
to
move
things
forward.
On
the
project
front,
we've
established
a
tiger
team
of
general
managers,
including
the
direct,
the
chief
financial
officer,
ottawa,
public
health,
the
director
of
the
city
manager's
office
and
included
the
mayor's
office
as
an
optional.
H
But
there
are
also
health
benefits,
economic
development
benefits
in
terms
of
job
creation,
equity
and
inclusion
considerations
and
ideally
benefits.
So
there's
a
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
co-benefits
that
we
want
to
be
able
to
be
nimble
enough
to
take
advantage
of.
So
we
feel
that
we
have
some
of
our
key
infrastructure
and
kind
of
our.
H
You
know
relationship
infrastructure
in
place
in
order
to
be
able
to
move
this
forward,
but
we
know
it
won't.
Stop
there.
One
of
the
climate
change
master
plan
priorities
is
to
establish
a
governance
structure,
a
community-wide
governance
structure
to
be
able
to
mobilize
align
and
scale
up
ottawa's
efforts,
because
we
know
that
we
can't
do
it
alone,
and
although
the
climate
change,
resiliency
team
works
with
colleagues
across
the
corporation
to
provide
technical
support
and
to
advance
their
own
projects,
we
also
do
the
same
for
our
community
partners
and
where
they're,
providing
or
applying
for
funding.
H
We
provide
letters
of
support.
By
after
today,
I
will
be
submitting
four
more
letters
of
support
to
the
the
environment
and
climate
change
funding
proposal
that
was
identified
earlier.
So
we
will
be
working
closely
with
those
community
partners
and
ideally
establishing
a
community-wide
governance
structure,
because
we
know
that
we
can't
do
it
alone,
and
we
know
that,
having
a
way
in
a
systemic
way
to
coordinate
conversations,
align
efforts,
establish
priorities
and
identify
resources
to
move.
This
forward
will
be
critical
to
its
success.
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that
reassurance
and
those
details.
Indeed,
it
is
the
resources
it
is.
The
is
a
delegated
authority
to
act
and
to
to
to
make
sure
we
seize
those
opportunities.
Because
again
we
can't
do
it
alone
and
to
the
chair's
comments.
Earlier
today,
with
the
letter
of
support
from
the
treasury
board,
I
went
I
looked
at
it.
D
There
was
no
check
attached
we're
going
to
have
to
fill
in
a
couple
of
forms
before
we
get
money
from
from
the
federal
government,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
that
that
we'll
get
that
support
that
will
get
those
those
real
dollars,
because
again
a
mere
two
six
years
from
now
there's
2.5
billion
dollars
that
needs
to
be
found
somewhere
somehow
to
to
to
fund
the
initiatives.
H
And
thank
you
for
the
reminder.
Counselor.
I
I
neglected
to
say
that
we
have
been
in
direct
conversation
with
federal
departments
such
as
infrastructure,
canada,
about
funding
that
may
be
available.
We've
also
had
conversations
about
resourcing
and
staffing
with
nrcan,
and
we
are
in
continuous
conversation
with
the
federation
of
canadian
municipalities
about
the
range
of
funding
streams
which
we
hope
to
apply
for
and
have
already
applied
for,
as
well
as
the
ministry
of
energy
at
the
provincial
level.
D
Noted
again,
thank
you
staff
for
for
your
work
on
this.
I
will
absolutely
be
supporting
the
report.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
A
It's
only
going
to
go
up
the
need
to
to
invest
into
fine
savings
and
be
more
efficient.
Is
today
and
that's
what
we're
here
for
today.
So
you
know,
I
think
it's
important
to
have
that
perspective.
A
N
Good,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
this.
I
appreciate
the
immense
amount
of
work
that
went
into
this.
It
was
a
lot
just
to
read
it,
let
alone
develop
it
and
think
it
through.
So
thank
you
to
everyone
who
was
involved
it
really.
N
It
really
is
something
I
I've
I've
now
printed
it
off
and
it's
it's
gonna
get
dog-eared
over
the
years
and
and
we
can
continue
to
go
back
to
it
and
think
about
it.
N
That's
that's
the
brilliance
of
this
document.
It's
going
to
come
with
me
tomorrow
to
transit
commission
and
it's
you
know
when
we
talk
about
electrifying
our
bus
fleet,
because
I
don't
think
we're
doing
that
quite
quick
enough,
but
it's
it's
a
lens
and
it's
and
it's
not
just
a
lens.
It's
actually
a
document
with
measurements
that
we
can
use
everywhere.
We
go
now
so
so.
Thank
you
for
that.
N
N
And
you
know-
and
I
know
we're
going
to
look
at
this
through
the
tmp
going
forward,
but
the
the
plan
seems
to
just
commit
more
thought
or
more
action
towards
electrifying
vehicles,
so
continues
to
focus
on
on
on.
N
You
know,
transportation
via
vehicles,
and
when
we
look
at
the
the
targets
for
active
transportation
modeshare,
I
think
it's
looking
back
21
by
2030
and
you
know
most
by
2046
and
and
2030
really
is
around
the
corner,
like
I
hate
using
that
term
now
that
it's
being
used
down
south,
but
it's
it's
not
far
off,
so
you
know
I
just
I
just
I
look
at
that
and
I
think
about
you
know
some
of
the
conversations
we
had
over
this
past
few
months
around.
N
You
know
widening
sidewalks
during
covet
taking
out
parking
lanes,
and
I
really
hope
that
you
know
we're
going
to
consider
those
targets
when
we're
having
those
discussions
again
because
they're
very
important.
If
we
don't
give
people
space
to
walk,
if
we
don't
start
widening
the
public
space
for
people,
those
targets
are
going
to
be
impossible
to
me
not
almost
they
they
will
be.
N
So
I
just
I
just
wanted
to
just
make
that
that
comment
and
then
my
question
is-
and
you
can
respond
to
that
if
you'd
like
but-
and
I
know
that
that
will
be
a
conversation
going
forward
in
the
tmp-
which
I
very
much
look
forward
to
my
question.
N
Is
this
and
it's
the
only
when
we
look
at
the
the
the
the
modeling,
the
energy
emissions
and
finance
modeling
you,
you
said
in
the
in
your
presentation
that
you
would
be
reporting
back
on
that
every
five
years,
so
that
would
bring
us
to
2025,
and
I
just
wonder
if,
when
we
look
at
the
short
term
targets
in
community
ghgs,
we
want
to
see
a
reduction
of
43
by
2025.
Is
that
correct
and
then
30
for
corporate
by
2025?
N
And
I
just
I
just
wonder
if
we're
coming
back
only
in
five
years
with
the
modeling,
what
happens
if
we're
not
there,
what
happens
if
we're
far
off
what
happens
to
the
everything
going
forward.
H
Thank
you
I'll
address
the
first
one.
First
around
the
transportation
side
of
things,
so
we've
been
very
blessed
that,
throughout
the
process,
our
colleagues
in
transportation
services
have
have
been
very
involved
and
they've
been
involved
in
a
range
of
ways.
Since
the
beginning
of
the
project,
perhaps
most
notably,
is
that
much
of
the
foundational
data
to
develop
the
model
itself
was
provided
directly
by
the
transportation
services
team
it
it.
The
model
itself
is
a
geographically
based
model
and
it's
on
transportation
zones.
H
So
we
worked
very
closely
with
the
transportation
team
in
the
in
the
very
foundational
pieces.
They
of
course
participated
through
working
groups,
technical
working
groups
over
the
development
of
the
pathways,
and
they
have
provided
a
significant
amount
of
input
into
those
20
projects
which
have
been
identified
beyond
that
the
transportation
master
plan
and,
and
notably
the
solid
waste
master
plan
as
well-
have
of
course
taken
note
that
there
are
very,
very
aggressive
metrics
within
the
model
and
based
on
a
number
of
conversations
with
staff
leading
those
solid
waste
and
transportation
master
plans.
H
On
the
second,
the
second
point
on
your
concern
is:
is
a
good
one,
reset
very,
very
aggressive
targets
in
the
short
term,
and
I
want
to
assure
you
that
we
are
coming
back
on
an
annual
basis
to
report
on
our
community
and
corporate
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
So
we'll
see
year
by
year,
how
we're
tracking
to
those
five-year
targets
we
won't
have
to
re-run
the
model
in
five
years.
H
We
won't
have
to
rerun
the
model
in
five
years
to
see
if
we're
on
track.
I
think
the
important
part
in
five
years
is
we're
actually
going
to
want
to
see
in
five
years
that,
after
we
have
made
it
through
these
other
very
important
documents,
such
as
the
official
plan
and
master
plan,
that
our
business
as
planned
model
changes
that
we
want
to
see
that
that
curve
is
coming
down,
as
well
as
the
corporate
and
community
ghg
emission
inventories
that
we
will
bring
forward
on
an
annual
basis.
N
Okay;
okay,
that
that
that
that's
certainly
that
certainly
answers
my
concerns
about
you
know
making
sure
that
we're
we're
tracking.
So
thank
you.
Thanks.
A
B
Well,
at
least
I'm
not
the
only
newbie
chair,
I
I
I
there's
a
new
newbie,
which
is.
B
I
appreciate
the
the
opportunity
really
to
thank
staff
for
the
great
work
that
they've
done.
Obviously,
climate
change
is
the
most
serious
challenge
really
confronting
us
as
a
city
as
a
society
in
in
all
elements.
So
I'm
very
gratified
by
the
work
that
has
been
undertaken.
I
did
note
in
the
report
that
there
was
a
section
that
dealt
with
equity
and
inclusion,
and
so
I
do
have
some
questions
to
staff
around
that
concerning
the
role
of
everyone.
You
know
playing
a
part
to
reduce
a
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
B
It
has
been
noted,
of
course,
that
issues
of
poverty,
affordable
housing
and
climate
change
are
are
inter,
are
interrelated
and
are
are
challenges
that
are
that
are
that
are
wrapped
up
with
this
process,
and
I
know
that
the
report
identified
the
potential
use
of
a
tool
of
an
energy
poverty
and
equity
explorer
tool
to
to
really
understand
the
equity
and
inclusion
challenges
around
implementing
climate
programs,
like
the
one
that's
proposed.
B
So
I
was
just
wondering
if
staff
could
comment
on
the
potential
application
of
the
tool,
because
there
wasn't
much
comments
about
that.
There
was
comments
about
the
existence
of
a
tool,
but
not
its
specific
application.
To
this.
H
Strategy,
thank
you
for
the
question.
The
tool
that
you're
referring
to
the
equity
and
sorry
the
energy
and
equity
tool
was
developed
as
a
partnership
across
the
country.
We
work
with
17,
large
and
leading
municipalities
across
canada
through
a
network
called
cusp
or
the
canadian
urban
sustainability
practitioners
network,
and
we
meet
every
two
weeks
with
that
network
collectively
across
the
country
we
have.
H
A
national
tool
was
developed
that
looks
at
very
detailed
data
across
a
range
of
considerations:
financial
household
income
ratio
between
spending
and
income,
race,
language,
education
levels,
gender
housing,
typology,
renters
owners
versus
the
type
of
the
typology,
the
housing
itself,
and
that's
been
done
across
the
country.
So
any
postal
code
in
canada
to
could
go
and
find
out
information
for
their
area.
H
H
Beyond
that,
we
recognize
that
we
have
to
have
more
conversations
with
people
with
lived
experience
in
these
equity
and
inclusion
or
vulnerable
communities,
and
one
of
the
letters
of
support
I
will
be
providing
later
today
is
to
the
ottawa
community
foundation
and
to
the
ottawa
climate
action
fund.
We
heard
from
the
executive
director
steve
winkelmann,
who
is
proposing
to
actually
build
some
of
that
social
infrastructure
to
to
catalyze
more
conversations
about
this
issue.
Specifically,
so
we
recognize
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done.
B
That's
excellent.
I
appreciate
that
and-
and
I
hope
that
the
work
of
the
new
anti-racism
secretariat
will
also
factor
in.
I
do
know
that
the
the
new
anti-racism
office
will
be
undertaking
some
public
consultation,
engagements
or
action
planning
in
november
around
multiple
issues
and
obviously
the
environment
is
a
major
consideration.
B
B
Sorry
about
that
another
another,
I
suppose
question
I
had
really
emerged
from
some
of
the
discussion
that
was
that
emerged
from
ecology
ottawa
around
the
idea
of
of
factoring
embody
carbon
into
our
analysis.
Can
you
speak?
Can
staff
really
speak
to
how
that
might
be
undertaken
if
any
thought
has
been
given
to
that
and
what
that
might
look
like
as
we
move
forward.
H
Thank
you.
We
have
identified
that
embodied
carbon
is
a
limit
in
the
model
right
now.
The
direction
that
we
were
given
as
part
of
this
exercise
from
council
is
to
establish
how
we
are
going
to
meet
the
targets
which
council
set
and
we
relied
on
global
protocol
through
our
consultants
through
input
as
we
developed
the
model
itself.
H
One
of
the
areas
which
is
still
an
emerging
area
is
the
protocols
and
is
the
research
around
embodied
carbon,
and
so
I
appreciate
both
the
question
earlier,
as
well
as
ecology's
ottawa's
response
that
they
would
do
some
digging
into
more
more
about
that.
That's
an
ongoing
question
and
we've
had
discussions
with
some
organizations,
including
infrastructure,
canada
and
they've
they've.
Let
us
know
that
through
their
climate
lens,
it's
also
something
that
they're
struggling
with
infrastructure.
H
Canada
does
a
climate
lens
on
significant
projects,
those
over
10
million
dollars,
and
they
have
you
have
to
provide
information
and
they
themselves
exclude
embodied
carbon.
They
are
looking
to
develop
some
local
information,
specifically
with
the
ncc
for
the
regional
context
and
they're,
also
looking
at
how
what
kind
of
additional
guidance
they
can
provide
across
the
country
about
incar
embodied
carbon
as
a
general
area.
H
We
are
aware
that
sort
of
rough
numbers
from
our
consultants
is
that
about
25,
more
emissions
may
be
kind
of
in
play
if
we
were
looking
at
embodied
carbon
and
it's
something
that
we
isn't
precluded
from
us,
considering
as
we
go
through
the
development
of
projects
for
the
efficiencies
around
responding
to
the
the
direction
that
council
gave
us
to
come
back
on
how
we're
going
to
meet
our
targets
and
to
stick
within
sort
of
best
practices
related
to
the
modeling
work
that
has
been
done,
we
have
left
it
out
for
now.
H
We
will
consider
it
at
the
five-year
mark
when
we
do
the
full
re-run
of
of
the
model.
One
of
the
considerations,
a
core
consideration
for
us
at
that
time,
will
be
that
it's
very
detailed
and
therefore
very
expensive
to
calculate
so
we
we
may
have
some
trade-offs
as
we
come
into
that
five-year
review
around
what
the
priorities
are
and
how
we
scope
it
accordingly.
B
Thank
you
for
that.
I
think
that
their
their
question
was
very
important,
because
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
consider
the
full
life
cycle
costs
of
carbon
and
its
full
costs,
not
just
the
the
end
use.
So
that's
important.
I
do
have
one
final
question
and
it
does
revolve
around.
I
clean
the
creation
of
clean
industries
in
in
ottawa.
B
I
know
that
it
was
pointed
out
that
there
are
a
number
of
companies
that
might
have
might
be
able
to
develop
synergies
based
on
this
plan
in
terms
of
moving
it
forward.
I
was
just
wondering
if
you
could
speak
to
the
connections
with
industry,
especially
clean
energy
industry
in
ottawa,
and
how
they
might
be
a
benefit
to
this
plan.
H
We
know
that
it's
on
the
rise
nationally
and
we
we
are
heartened
to
see
that
in
some
cases
it
is
also
on
the
rise
locally.
So
we
we
see
that
there
are
certainly
lots
of
potential
and
ottawa
has
a
tremendous
environment
in
which
these
kinds
of
technologies,
clean
industries
and
green
tech
can
thrive.
And
so
we
are
obviously
looking
for
partners
in
a
range
of
in
a
range
of
areas,
because
climate
change
touches
so
many
different
aspects.
H
Certainly,
a
high-tech
sector
that
we
that
we
want
to
be
able
to
build
on,
and
the
notion
that
has
had
some
traction
with
council
is
the
notion
of
the
smart
city
and
there
are
tons
of
opportunities
and
counselor
kane.
We've
had
some
conversations
in
the
past
where
you've
identified
some
opportunities
for
smart
buildings
and
smart
transportation.
H
We
heard
from
councillor
harder
earlier
today
alluding
to
some
of
the
smart
farm
and
some
opportunities
there.
So
we
certainly
know
that
there
are
it's
a
burgeoning
and
growing
and
important
industry
for
us
to
capitalize
on,
and
we
look
forward
to
working
with
partners
and
and
having
those
ident
ident
opportunities
identified
for
us
so
that
we
may
be
able
to
take
advantage.
If
and
when
the
opportunities
arise.
I'll
just
pause
and
ask
if
don
her
wire
wanted
to
add
anything
from
an
economic
development
perspective.
B
B
The
smart
firm
is
obviously
key
as
we
as
we
shift
in
terms
of
you
know:
smart
agriculture,
one
other
program
I
could
see
applying
is
you
know
we
have
an
innovation
pilot
program
in
our
economic
development
group
that
takes
in
ideas
from
the
private
sector
and
this
year
we
we
shifted
our
focus
to
things
that
would
help
us
in
terms
of
the
kovitz
situation,
but
I
could
see
an
expanded
program
there
in
terms
of
technology,
and
you
know
things
that
would
help
the
city
respond
in
terms
of
that
emerging
technology,
so
lots
of
opportunities.
B
Well,
thank
you
for
that
that
comment.
Those
are
all
my
questions,
but
I
primarily
wanted
to
focus
on
the
idea
that
this
should
be
a
a
virtuous
cycle
as
well
there's
a
lot
of
spending
that
needs
an
investment
that
needs
to
be
undertaken,
but
ideally
we
want
to
ensure
that
that's
also
growing
green
industry
and
that's
growing
green
industry
in
our
city.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Chair.
A
A
E
J
I
am,
I
spoke
earlier
to
some
of
our
guests,
but
not
to.
E
You're
on
the
list
officially.
J
Go
ahead,
thank
you.
Thank
you
now
I
appreciate
all
the
work
that's
been
done.
This
is
I'm
very,
very
happy
that
we're
moving
this
direction
and
much
has
been
asked
by
previous
counselors,
and
I
appreciate
their
questions.
I
guess
I
just
want
to
ensure
that
that
we
continue
to
to
work
with
communities.
J
I
was
very
encouraged
to
hear
from
miss
glass
and
also
just
in
terms
of
cafe
and
and
just
the
idea
that
there
are
people
in
the
community
who
really
really
want
to
do
things,
and
I
appreciate
the
intervention
from
our
economic
development
team
in
terms
of
you
know,
listening
to
new
ideas,
because
I
do
get
those
and
I
I
want
to
be
assured
that
that
we
have
a
place
to
to
talk
about
them
with
with
our
team,
because
that
I
think
that's
where
the
great
ideas
come
from.
J
It
is
from
you
know,
from
from
residents
gathering
together
and
thinking
about
things
about
what
we
can
do
better.
So
I
just
want
to
ask
about
the
well
what
the
process
is,
so
that
we
can
encourage
people
out
there
to
say
you
know
you
can
go
to
your
counselor.
J
You
can
you
know
we
will
have
a
network
to
to
talk
about
your
ideas
of
what
we
can
do
in
the
community,
because
once
we
have
buy-in
from
the
from
the
residents
and-
and
I
see
that's,
one
of
the
risks
that
we
have
is
is
not
having
buy-in
from
residents,
but
if
they
own
a
piece
of
it,
if
they
feel
like
it's
something
that
they're
doing
in
their
community
will
definitely
get
more
feedback,
and
you
know
interest
in
the
big
projects
as
well.
J
So
I
just
wanted
to
ask
if
we've
how
we're
how
we
can
go
about
to
sort
of
harvesting
those
ideas
out
there.
H
Chancellor
I'll
start
and
I'll
speak
more
generally
about
sort
of
the
climate
change
file
and
then
I'll
look
to
dawn
to
see
if
he
wants
to
add
anything
specific
on
the
ideas
about
economic
development
from
so.
We
agree,
of
course,
that
there
are.
There
have
been
already
many
great
ideas
that
have
come
from
our
technical
working
groups:
our
sounding
board
members,
members
of
staff,
both
those
who
have
been
directly
involved
in
the
projects,
as
well
as
those
who
have
reached
out
after
having
done
public
or
staff
by
internal
presentations.
H
We
are
blessed
on
our
team
not
only
to
have
technical
experts,
but
we
also
have
a
communication
and
outreach
staff
who
is
dedicated
to
this
and
who
has
already
built
a
climate
change
newsletter.
Following
of,
I
think,
we're
at
about
3
000
followers.
H
We
have
tremendous
support
from
our
public
information
and
media
relations
staff
and
from
ottawa
public
health,
who
also
want
to
share
and
promote
these
messages,
not
just
about
collecting
ideas,
but
perhaps
even
more
importantly,
about
how
individuals
can
take
action,
because
that's
something
we've
heard
many
times
that
because
the
plan
itself
covers
so
many
aspects
and
it's
so
technical
in
some
cases
and
very
detailed
in
others
that
people
want
to
know
what
to
do.
And
so,
as
we
make
this
switch
into
an
implementation
focus
going
forward.
J
All
right,
thank
you,
so
we'll
keep
them
coming.
I
just
want
to
get
your
comments
about
the
new
blue
box
program
that
the
province
is
putting
forward.
Does
this
fit
in
to
what
we're
doing
here.
H
Well,
we
are
again
blessed
to
have
a
roster
of
staff
on
the
call
we
have
staff
here
from
the
solid
waste
master
plan.
So
nicole,
could
I
pass
that
question
over
to
you.
F
B
Thank
you
very
much
counselor.
So
in
terms.
H
Of
the
impacts
of
the
city's
transition
or
the
provincial
transition
of
the
blue
box
to
individual
producer
responsibility,
it's.
G
J
Okay,
so
we'll
hear
more
analysis
soon,
I
guess
once
we
get
more
details,
then
absolutely
yes,
counselor,
fair
enough.
Well,
thank
you
very
much.
A
A
All
right,
thank
you,
counselor
kavanagh,
councillor
eglei,
is
the
last
on
my
list.
Unless
somebody
wants
to
jump
on
and
ask
more
stuff
go
ahead.
Cancer
regulate.
C
Well,
thank
you,
catherine
moffitt.
So
first
I
I
like
a
lot
of
my
colleagues,
want
to
thank
staff.
This
was
a.
This
was
a
major
undertaking
and
you
know
the
product
you
come
forward
with
is
is
a
progressive
and
substantive.
C
Action
item,
oriented
type
approach,
so
that's
appreciated.
I
have
a
question
I
did.
A
little
research
online
actually
was
waiting.
So
I
sort
of
know
the
answer.
But
but
I
have
a
question
that
I
think
is.
It
may
be
maybe
a
burning
question
for
many
of
many
of
my
colleagues
for
the
public.
Listening
you've
made
reference
several
times
to
the
tiger
team
and
that
sounds
really
cool
to
have
a
tiger
team
out
there
and
very
aggressive
and
sleek
and
efficient
and
everything
else.
H
Thank
you.
Well
I
we
certainly
did
not
name
it.
It
was
a
name
that
started
in
an
earlier
phase
of
energy
evolution.
So
over
the
course
of
the
project
there
have
been
two
separate
tiger
teams
established.
The
concept
of
the
tiger
team
is
that
it
engages
this
most
senior
management
levels
in
order
to
align,
coordinate
and
ideally
advance
the
priorities
which
have
been
established
and
so
having
a
forum
in
which
we
can
bring
cross-departmental
and
cross-corporate
considerations
to
the
the
most
senior
management
team.
C
Thank
you
for
that.
I
appreciate
that
my
second
question
has
to
do
with
with
me
kind
of
putting
on
my
chair
of
ottawa.
Public
health.
We've
talked
a
lot
this
morning
about.
You
know:
potential
savings
down
the
road.
C
It
sounds
like
it's
a
big
big
financial
ticket,
but
when
you
look
at
it
in
the
long
range
and
what
it's
going
to
produce
and
the
money
it's
going
to
save,
I
think
it's
pretty
obvious
to
everybody
on
this
on
this
committee
that
you
know
improve
our
environment
and
we're
going
to
improve
our
health
for
for
the
citizens
of
ottawa,
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
you
can
talk
to
that
a
little
bit
in
how
you
are
going
to
track
the
outputs,
if
you
will,
of
of
the
plan
going
forward
and
and
what
sort
of
goal
posts
you're
going
to
look
at
to
be
able
to
say
to
us
that
you
are
achieving
positive,
positive
results.
H
It's
an
insightful
question
counselor
and
we
agree
that
that
the
health
considerations
associated
with
climate
change
are
critical
and,
of
course,
they're
a
major
driver
for
why
we
need
to
make
change
in
this
file.
It's
so
important
to
us
that
we
have.
H
We
are
actually
seconded
one
50
staff
from
ottawa,
public
health
to
be
a
member
of
the
climate
change
and
resiliency
team,
and
that
has
really
helped
even
in
this
time
of
the
pandemic,
solidify,
where
our
messaging
and
where
our
opportunities
may
align.
So
the
question,
do
we
have
a
plan
to
sort
of
evaluate,
I
guess,
the
positive
health
outcomes?
H
I
think
we'll
work
we'll
continue
to
work
with
our
colleagues
in
ottawa,
public
health
to
identify
what
kind
of
metrics
they
use
where
we
might
have
some
opportunities
to
look
at
that
and
as
we're
developing
the
projects
themselves
further,
I
think
it
will
behoove
us
to
think
about
what
kind
of
health
indicators
and
successes
we
may
see.
For
instance,
the
phase
out
of
diesel
from
a
corporate
perspective
will
be
an
important
consideration
in
air
quality.
H
So
I
think
it's
an
insightful
question
and
one
that
we'll
have
to
take
away
as
we
further
develop
the
projects
to
go.
Go
forward
not
just
in
the
in
our
corporate
perspective,
but
also
in
a
community-wide
perspective,
because
combustion
of
anything
reductions
in
combustion
of
anything
will
also
lead
to
improvements
in
air
quality.
So
something
for
us
to
give
some
thought
to.
As
we
continue.
C
I
know
I
appreciate
that
and
the
reason
I
raise
it
is
because
you
know-
and
the
chair
alluded
to
this
in
in
his
earlier
comments-
there's
a
bit
of
a
sticker
shock
to
this
plan
when
you
look
at
it
initially,
and
I
think
one
of
the
ways
to
justify
the
proposed
expenses
over
the
over
the
next
number
of
years
is
to
focus
on
and
explain
some
of
those
non-financial
benefits,
those
benefits
that
are
going
to
impact
each
and
every
one
of
us
in
the
city
and
the
most
logical
one
that
comes
to
mind
to
me
is
you
know
the
air
is
cleaner
to
to
breathe
if
it's
easier
to
be
outside.
C
If
there's
promotion
of
of
different
ways
to
get
around
the
city,
all
those
things
are
going
to
impact
positively
on
people's
health.
So
I
appreciate
you
may
not
have
a
plan,
but
I
to
sort
of
come
back
and
speak
to
those
things
directly.
I
equally
appreciate
that
you're
going
to
take
that
away
and
have
a
look
at
that
and
find
a
way
to
do
it,
because
I
think
it's.
C
C
I
I
think
that
would
be
a
really
good
way
to
get
that
message
across
to
to
the
community
as
a
whole.
So
just
leave
that
with
you
and
and
maybe
we
can
talk
about
it
more
offline,
but
I
think
it's
a
good
thing
to
track
and
a
good
thing
to
to
use
as
a
as
a
an
indicator
of
the
success
of
the
plan.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you
appreciate
that,
and
everyone's
comments
and
questions
appreciate
staff's
time.
I
know
on
the
tiger
team.
I
was
secretly
lobbying
for
ralston
to
be
named
the
chair
of
the
tiger
team.
Just
so
I
could
refer
to
him
as
the
tiger
king.
A
All
right
so
on
the
item,
I'll
just
go
right
through
all
the
all
of
the
recommendations,
so
at
the
standing
committee
on
environmental
protection,
water
and
waste
management
recommend
the
council
one
receive
the
final
report
for
energy
evolution,
ottawa's
community
energy
transition
strategy
and
supporting
documents
attached
as
document
1
through
document
9
and
summarized
in
this
report
to
receive
the
list
of
projects
identified
as
documents
7
and
8
to
be
more
developed
by
staff
and
brought
forward
before
standing
committee
and
council
for
approval,
where
required,
three
direct
staff
leading
new
or
updates
to
city
plans,
strategies
and
policies
to
take
into
consideration
the
energy
emissions
model
and
the
city's
greenhouse
gas
reduction
targets
in
the
development
of
such
plans,
strategies
and
policies,
and
four
approve
that
the
2019
hydro
ottawa
dividend.
A
A
Emphatic
yes
from
council
cushion.
Thank
you
so
much
appreciate
again
your
time
today
you
need
everyone
that
came
out
to
speak
today
and
obviously
this
won't
be
the
end
of
it.
Well,
we'll
talk
about
this
more.
I
know
it
won't
be
the
biggest
story
in
the
news
today,
but
but
it's
important
it's
an
important
step
in
the
right
direction
for
the
city
of
ottawa
and
our
community
as
a
whole,
oh,
as
amended
carried
as
amended
as.
A
In
camera
items
there
are
none
information
previews
previously
distributed
a
update
on
the
new
island
water
purification
plant
project.
You
would
have
all
received
that
notices
of
motion.
E
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much
chair.
It's
timely
and
both
have
been
through
some
staff
posts.
I
really
want
to
thank
staff
for
going
through
and
helping
with
some
edits
to
these.
Like
do
you
want
me
to
read
them
both
out
in
full
or
just
to
be
be
it
resolve
that.
E
Yeah,
so
this
one
is
on
the
climate
change
master
plan,
energy
evolution,
ottawa's,
community
energy
transition
strategy,
final
report
and
it's
funding,
cost-effective
energy
evolution
projects
and
therefore
be
resolved
that
the
standing
committee
on
environmental
protection,
water
and
waste
management
recommend
to
the
finance
and
economic
development
committee
that
the
next
long-range
financial
plans
consider
the
affordability
of
raising
the
debt
limit
for
projects
in
energy
evolution
that
either
generate
income
or
savings
to
the
city
and
be
a
further
resolve
that
the
climate
change
team
participate
in
the
development
of
the
long-range
financial
plans
to
help
identify
new
funding
mechanisms
for
energy
evolution
initiatives
required
by
the
corporation
as
per
the
climate
change
master
plan
to
meet
the
100
emissions
reduction
scenario.
E
That's
a
notice
of
motion
there.
The
second
one
chair
relates
to
fossil
fuels
and
sustainable
assets.
We've
not
done
very
well
financially
with
with
these
investments
of
late
and
the
therefore
be
it
resolved.
E
That
staff
evaluate
the
prudence
of
divesting
of
fossil
fuels
as
input
to
the
development
of
the
investment
strategy
that
will
need
to
be
approved
by
council.
The
scope
of
this
review
will
include
an
assessment
of
the
following:
no
new
purchase
of
stocks
or
mutual
funds
with
coal
oil
and
gas
companies,
specifically
excluding
any
new
investment
in
the
200
largest,
publicly
traded,
fossil
fuel
companies
and
sell
off
of
fossil
fuel
holdings
from
these
sane
companies
over
the
next
five
years.
So
there'll
be
an
analysis
done
I'll
leave
it
back
to
you.
A
So
we'll
discuss
that
in
detail
then.
So
thank
you
for
that.
Let
me
get
back
to
my
agenda
here
right,
so
no,
I
don't.
I
haven't
received
any
further
notices
of
motion
from
anyone
else.
Inquiries.
B
A
Thanks,
did
you
share
that
with
with
chris?
Does
he
have
that?
I
will
type
it
up?
Okay,
oh
yes,
I
see
it
written
handwritten,
but
yeah
on
that
I
mean
just
on
this
year.
A
Okay,
yeah
well,
just
even
for
the
public
sake.
You
know
we
tried
to.
We
tried
to
come
up
with
solutions
to
to
better
serve
the
entire
city.
We
didn't.
I
mean
our
three.
Our
three
extended
household
hazardous
waste
depots
were
at
conroy,
carp,
road
and
now
bar
haven,
starting
tomorrow,
until
the
25th
from
eight
to
four
every
day,
and
it's
it's
just
because
we
did
the
extended
once
and
normally
our
preferred
downtown
area
location
would
be
chinese
pasture,
but
we
can't
get
it.
A
We
can't
do
it
for
for
five
straight
days
and
we
also
need
to
have
a
secure
site
so
hopefully,
which
we
couldn't.
We
couldn't
have
a
secure
site
at
at
at
tony's,
overnight
and
whatnot,
so
where
we
can,
we
we
can
clearly
at
the
city
works
yards
where
we
have
snow
dump,
facilities
chair.
A
A
So
thanks
for
that
inquiry
and
it'll
be
good
to
get
that
on
the
on
the
agenda
with
a
response.
No
further
inquiries,
I
don't
see
other
business,
none
germans
assume,
one
of
you
folks
is
moving
to
germany.
So
german,
is
that
carried
carried
great
thanks,
so
our
next
meeting
will
be
tuesday
november
17th
2020
and,
of
course,
the
report
from
today
will
go
to
council
on
the
28th
of
this
month.
So
look
forward
to
that.
Thank
you.
Everyone.