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From YouTube: Standing Committee on Environmental Protection, Water and Waste Management, November 17, 2020
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Standing Committee on Environmental Protection, Water and Waste Management, November 17, 2020 - meeting stream.
Agenda and background materials can be found at http://www.ottawa.ca/agendas.
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So
item
number
one
is
our
our
budget
for
tax
and
rate,
so
we
will
hold
that
with
presentation,
of
course,
and
delegations
number
two
is
the
financial
statements
for
in-house
solid
waste
collection.
Our
external
audit
results
for
2020..
Now
we
don't
have
any
speakers
not
sure
if
we
have
anyone
wishing
to
speak
to
that
or
hold
it
to
ask
questions.
A
Right,
thank
you.
So
much
so
item
number
three
is
funding
cost
effective
energy
evolution
projects?
We
have
a
speaker
on
that.
One
hold
that
we
have
a
speaker
on
number
four,
which
is
divestment
from
fossil
fuels,
an
increase
in
sustainable
assets.
Actually
it's
like
it's
angela
keller
herzog
on
on
all
of
them,
so
she's
like
a
special
guest.
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B
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G
F
Awesome,
thank
you,
chris.
That
looks
great
all
right
good
morning
to
the
members
of
the
standing
committee
on
environmental
protection,
water
and
waste
management.
My
name
is
shelly
mcdonald
and
I'm
the
acting
director
of
solid
waste
services,
and
I'm
pleased
to
be
with
you
here
today
to
deliver
the
draft
2021
budget.
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H
Jasmine,
you
so
I'll
yeah
I'll
just
move
to
the
next
slide
right
away,
so
this
slide
provides
an
overview
of
the
proposed
budget
for
these
four
tax,
supported
service
areas,
infrastructure
services
and
is
increasing
by
hundred
ninety
five
thousand
over
the
previous
year.
This
is
an
increase
of
six
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
in
expanded
in
expenditures
offset
by
an
additional
two
hundred
thirty
five
thousand
in
recoveries,
primarily
from
capital
projects.
H
Resiliency
in
natural
systems
policy
is
increasing
expenditures
by
157
000,
which
is
offset
by
an
increase
in
recoveries,
primarily
from
user
fee
revenues
for
a
net
increase
of
37
000.,
solid
waste
services.
Expenditures
are
increasing
by
8.66
million,
which
is
offset
by
an
additional
4.9
million,
primarily
from
an
increase
in
the
garbage
fee
and
other
user
fees
and
the
net
increase
is
3.7
million
forestry
services.
Expenditures
are
increasing
by
685
000,
which
is
offset
by
380
000
tree
permit
revenues
for
a
net
increase
of
305
thousand.
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F
F
As
outlined
in
the
approved
report
to
council
in
april
2019,
the
user
fees
for
waste
collection
are
increasing
in
2021..
The
city's
competitive
procurement
process
has
ensured
that
residents
and
property
managers
are
receiving
good
value
for
their
tax
dollars
when
the
capital
requirements
for
the
landfill
and
facilities
are
added.
The
total
user
fee
for
curbside
residents
is
increasing
by
83
cents
more
per
month,
or
an
annual
increase
of
10
for
multi-residential
property
owners,
including
both
the
contract
elements
and
the
capital
elements
there.
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F
In
addition,
the
budget
includes
two
million
dollars
for
natural
area
acquisitions.
The
city
receives
several
requests
for
rural
land
purchases
each
year,
the
official
planned
policies
authorize
the
city
to
secure
and
conserve
natural
environment
areas
and
other
rural
natural
heritage
system
lands
through
a
variety
of
needs,
including,
but
not
limited,
to
managed
committee
agreements.
Partnerships
and
acquisitions,
not
including
this
chart,
is
an
additional
2.6
million
from
the
hydro
ottawa
dividend
surplus
that
will
be
used
to
advance
energy
evolution
projects
to
reduce
energy
consumption
in
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
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H
Next
slide,
so
the
rate
budget
includes
water,
wastewater
and
storm
water
services,
which
are
primarily
funded
by
revenue
from
the
water
bill
and
storm
water
charge.
The
various
components
of
the
water
bill
are
increasing
at
different
rates,
but
for
the
average
urban
property
consuming
180
cubic
meters
of
water
a
year,
the
overall
average
increase
is
4.5
or
37
annually,
or
three
dollars
and
eight
cents
per
month
for
the
average
rural
non-connected
single
family.
That
does
not
get
water
bill
and
only
pay
the
storm
water
charge.
H
H
Drinking
water
services
expenditures
are
increasing
by
5.2
million,
with
offsetting
revenues
from
user
fees.
This
represents
an
increase
of
2.7
expenditures.
Overall
wastewater
services
expenditures
are
increasing
by
5.8
million,
with
offsetting
revenues
from
user
fees
of
the
same
amount.
This
represents
an
increase
of
3.4
percent
in
overall
expenditures.
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H
F
The
budget
includes
an
adjustment
for
potential
2021
cost
of
living
increases
increments
and
benefit
adjustments.
The
budget
also
includes
an
increase
to
the
contribution
to
capital
of
595
000
for
water,
2.577
million
for
wastewater
and
5.309
million
for
storm
water.
I
will
now
pass
the
remainder
presentation
over
to
korea
next
slide.
Please.
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I
I
I
The
city
would
invest
about
218
million
to
renew
and
grow
water
infrastructure.
This
will
be
funded
by
reserves:
155.3
million
debt,
52.8
million
development
charges,
9.7
million
and
revenue
250
000.
between
2021
and
2024.
The
city
would
invest
1.1
billion
in
renew
to
renew
and
grow
water
infrastructure.
I
There
is
about
105
million
in
the
budget
for
integrated
road,
water
and
wastewater
infrastructure.
63.8
million
falls
under
the
transportation
committee
mandate,
18.2
million
to
renew
integrated
water
and
wastewater
infrastructure,
including
14
million
to
repair
rehabilitate
and
improve
sewers
next
slide.
Please.
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When
you
look
at
the
big
picture,
part
of
the
budget,
you
see
the
two,
the
two
pie,
charts
that
show
3.94
billion
dollars
in
in
spending
and
expenditures.
We
show
reserves.
We
show
that
we're
spending
a
significant
amount
of
money
in
reserves
we
always
forget
to
highlight
is
on
the
other
side,
which
is
the
the
revenue
side,
there's
a
section
that
says
capital
formation
costs
and
in
that
is
what
we
contribute
to
reserves:
every
single
every
single
year.
A
So
actually,
at
the
end
of
this
at
the
end
of
the
budget
year,
what
we
project
is
that
the
reserves
at
the
city
will
actually
go
from
475
million
dollars
to
492
million
dollars.
So,
even
though
the
presentation
today
makes
it
look
like
we're
rating
reserves
and
spending
200
million,
that's
how
we
front
end
the
cost
of
the
projects,
and
then
we
backfill
it
later
on
it's
just
it's
it's
a
bit
of
a
it's
a
bit
of
a
misconception.
A
I
think
that
we
we
we
unfortunately
presented
in
a
way
that
we
don't
explain
it
properly,
but
that's
that's.
I
just
noticed
those
are
the
two
biggest
pots
on
those
on
those
pie.
Charts
was
reserve
spending
two,
I
think
before
we
get
to
delegations
which
we'll
go
to
right
away.
Two
is
a
one
of
the
key
things
of
this
term
of
council
and
and
and
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
had
a
discussion
at
the
start
of
this
term
on
the
name
of
this
committee.
A
Was
that
don't
look
to
this
committee
for
all
climate
change
initiatives?
They
belong
everywhere
and
they
you
will
find
them
everywhere.
You
will
find
them
in
all
of
our
budgets
across
the
city.
This
is
not
the
be
all
end-all
committee
for
spending
on
initiatives
directed
at
climate
change.
You'll
find
a
transportation
budget
you'll
find
in
the
transit
budget.
A
These
types
of
things
are
are
everywhere,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that's
clear
as
well
that
while
we
do
have
some
of
those
initiatives,
energy
evolution
obviously
is
is
an
important
one,
and
why
it's
why
we
worked
so
diligently
to
ensure
that
the
the
dividend
surplus
money
was
was
protected
and
preserved
for
the
purpose
that
we
highlighted
it
would
be
for,
but
there
is
certainly
other
spending
going
on
at
the
city
this
year
next
and
beyond.
That
will
contribute
towards
our
our
climate
change
initiatives
and
goals.
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G
Motion
hi,
thank
you,
scott,
and
thank
you
for
mentioning
that
climate
change
initiatives
are
sort
of
everywhere
in
the
budget.
I
think
that's
important,
but
I
think
that
also
speaks
to
the
some
of
the
larger
issues
that
I,
on
behalf
of
horizon
ottawa,
will
be
briefly
mentioning
so
first
off.
I
think
it
has
to
be
said
that
any
sort
of
climate
change
initiatives,
regardless
of
where
they
are
in
the
budget,
have
to
be
considered
alongside
council's
decision
earlier
this
year
to
expand
the
urban
boundary.
G
There
is
no
new
money
for
climate
change
in
the
2021
budget.
There's
a
re-announcement
of
hydro
surplus
dividends
from
2019
that
were
released
in
may
2020,
and
there
was
a
renouncement
of
3
million
in
city
building
energy
efficiency.
Investments
that
was
also
there
in
the
2020
budget
was
then
clawed
back
mostly
because
of
coveted
mitigation,
and
now
is
back.
G
G
The
other
thing
that
I
wanted
to
mention
is
that,
on
june,
8th,
the
ncc
and
the
city
of
ottawa
did
release
a
climate
projections
report
projecting
shorter
winters,
more
extreme
heat
events
and
more
precipitation.
Generally,
this
report
is
meant
to
help
inform
a
climate
resiliency
strategy,
but
where
is
the
money
for
developing
this
strategy?
G
We
have
the
information,
so
what
are
we
doing
with
it
this
year?
Furthermore,
the
city
is
supposed
to
be
doing
a
vulnerability
assessment
with
the
help
of
oph,
which
is
speaks
right
to
your
point,
scott,
but
the
dif.
The
problem
is
that
the
city
has
not
given
a
bunch
of
increase
to
oph
while
we're
in
a
pandemic,
even
though
the
oph
has
a
deficit,
and
I
misspoke
story
that
it
has
given
it
a
very
minor
budget
increase,
but
compared
to
something
like
the
ottawa
police
services,
it's
negligible.
G
G
A
E
Thanks
very
much
chair
and
thank
you
emma
for
being
here,
I'm
wondering
with
regard
to
the
the
funding
of
of
climate
change
initiatives,
if
you
would
be
in
favor
of
ensuring
that
we,
because
it's
hard
to
find
it's
hard
to
find
funds
in
the
budget.
Obviously
moving
things
around
is
what
we
we
would
like
to
do
here
and
there
where
it
makes
sense,
and
certainly
my
my
my
approach
to
it
on
spending
on
certain
areas,
but
another
emotion
that
we
have
later
on
today.
E
G
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Councillor
menard,
I
don't
know
if
I
can
really
speak
to
great
detail
to
that,
but
I
would
say
that
energy
efficiencies
excuse
me
in
city.
Buildings
is
very
clearly
part
of
the
like
a
big
part
of
the
city's
plan,
and
I
would
say
that
my
my
interest
in
that
would
be
focused
on
whether
that
is
going
into
like
ottawa
public
housing
infrastructure
to
ensure
that
there
are
any
energy
efficiencies
in
those
buildings.
G
A
A
C
C
Our
presentation
today
is
entitled
searching
for
climate
finance
in
budget
2021
next
slide.
Please
we'd
like
to
remark
that
the
context
of
this
budget
certainly
is
not
a
budget
crisis.
We
are
looking
at
a
growth
budget.
The
province
has
been
making
us
whole
and
interest
rates
are
at
an
all-time
low,
which
favors
that
debt
rolling
over
is
costing
us
less
and
there's
room
for
capital
project
debt
financing
with
while
respecting
conservative
debt
service
ratio
requirements
next
slide.
C
So
that's
what
we'd
like
to
unpack
today,
a
little
bit
more
next
slide,
please.
So.
The
honorable
mayor
in
his
draft
budget
speech,
told
us
that,
with
a
contribution
of
2.6
million
provided
through
the
hydro
ottawa
dividend,
11
million
will
be
provided
to
support
energy
evolution
and
he
also
references
leveraging
federal
and
provincial
funds
and
the
goal
to
invest
in
positive
return
projects.
C
Next
slide,
please
so,
as
emma
has
already
referenced,
the
surplus
hydro
dividend
of
2.6
million
it
came
from
operating
year
to
2019
entered
the
city
finances
in
about
may,
with
the
audit
completed
was
briefly
clawed
back
was
then
returned,
and
then
there
was
a
detailed
spending
plan
approved
by
this
committee
and
council.
So
the
conclusion
of
that
we
have
is
that
that
ship
has
sailed
and
that
this
money
shouldn't
be
in
budget
2021
next
slide.
C
Please
so
then
the
question
is
what
about
the
surplus
hydro
dividend
for
2021,
and
I
think
this
video
isn't
going
to
work,
but
there's
a
video
there
of
the
ceo
of
ottawa,
hydro,
bryce,
conrad,
actually
reporting
to
the
city
that
there
will
not
be
a
surplus
dividend
in
2021
because
covet
is
taking
its
toll
on
them
as
well.
Next
slide,
please!
C
So
our
best
guess-
and
and
this
is
where
we
need
your
help-
is
that
there's
an
11
million
capital
project
authority
that
will
come
into
play
when
the
detailed
project
descriptions
for
the
20
energy
evolution
projects
are
approved
or
when
municipal
counterpart
funds
are
required
for
federal
or
provincial
climate
finance
that
that
leveraging
mechanism
next
slide.
Please
so
then
unpacking
some
more.
We
know
from
our
emissions
profile
that
we
need
to
look
for
the
transportation
and
building
sector
to
be
reducing
emissions.
C
So
when
we
examine
draft
budget
2021
for
the
fleet
vehicle
and
equipment
plans,
we
see
a
spending
plan
for
23.2
million
dollars,
which
is
not
pocket
change,
167
vehicles,
zero
of
them
are
electric.
We
also
know
that
the
electric
bus
pilot,
thank
you
of
2020,
has
not
proceeded
and
that
building
refurbishments
aside
from
the
3
million
beam
funding
are
not
giving
us
assurance
that
there
are
retrofits
at
all
next
slide
please.
C
C
C
E
Okay,
okay
and
then
on
the
11
million
I'll,
follow
up
with
staff
after
your
presentation
unless
they
want
to
answer
it
now.
But
I
probably
we
can
do
that
during
the
discussion
on
what
that
was
indicating,
whether
it
be
current
staffing
levels
or
something
else,
because
I
know
you've
raised
that
and
it's
a
it's
a
good
point
to
get
clarification
on.
E
A
All
right,
thank
you,
yeah,
I
think.
There's
you
know
what
I
think
most
of
people
here
realize
I'm
a
bit
of
a
realist.
I'm
not
gonna
lie
to
anyone.
I
mean
I
think,
there's.
I
think
we
know
that
the
budgets
this
term
of
council
have
not
been
predominantly
focused
on
climate
change,
like
we
know
that
I
think
the
intent
of
this
committee
and
the
work
that
I've
been
trying
to
focus
on
working
with
accounts
from
other
members
of
of
this
committee
and
council
is
to
set
council
up
for
the
long
term.
A
The
climate
change
master
plan
is
a
big
piece
of
that.
How
it
feeds
into
the
other
documents
that
we
have
the
energy
evolution
report
that
we
approved
last
month
at
council
unanimously
at
council
last
month.
That's
another
big
piece
of
that
setting
up
the
stage
for
for
where
we
go.
It's
not
just
it's
not
gonna
happen
overnight.
You
know
the
points
you
raise
about
the
budget
money
being
spent
on
things
that
aren't
necessarily
climate-related
you're,
not
wrong.
You
know,
I
think
the
climate
lens,
the
equity
lens,
those
come
later.
A
Those
come
like
in
december.
We
put
those
in
place,
so
it's
it's
to
look
at
what
we
can
do
right
now
to
set
the
stage
to
equip
future
councils
to
make
decisions
that
we're
asking
to
be
made,
and
I
I
recognize
that
will
likely
fall
short
in
the
short
term,
but
the
long
term.
I
feel
it
will
be
much
better
off
based
on
the
work
of
this,
this
committee
and
the
the
counselors
that
are
here
today.
So
thank
you
for
that.
Our
next
speaker
from
ecology,
ottawa
rob
burns.
J
Good
morning
chair,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
having
me
here
today.
So
I'll
keep
things
fairly
brief.
To
a
certain
extent,
some
of
the
others
have
gone
over
some
of
the
points,
but
I'll
start
on
the
tree
file.
Again,
you
know
referring
back
to
the
mayor's
statement.
The
marisa's
budget
2021
includes
1.5
million
dollars
to
plant
125
000
trees,
that's
great!
That's
a
nice
consistent
number
and
a
nice
consistent
level.
J
We're
also
pleased
on
the
tree
file
to
hear
that
there
are
three
new
forestry
positions
that
will
be
in
place
to
implement
the
new
tree
bylaw
and,
as
you
might
know,
from
our
previous
communications,
we
think
the
urban
forest
management
plan
is
an
excellent
plan
and
we
understand
that
the
tree
protection
bylaw
is
really
vital
for
the
future
of
our
city.
So
we're
encouraged
around
that.
J
So
so
that's
on
the
tree
file
on
on
the
climate
action
file.
I
would
echo
some
of
the
concerns
of
the
other
speakers
and
it's
more
of
questions.
You
know
looking
for
that.
11
million
dollars,
I
think,
is,
has
been
something
that
we've
also
tried
to
do
independently.
We
haven't
found
it
yet.
I
don't
know,
but
the
intricacies
of
where
the
2.6
million
dollars
come
from,
it
seems
like
angela's
analysis
is,
is
probably
the
most
possible
that
that
we've
read
so
far.
J
You
know
in
terms
of
which
hydro
dividend
it
comes
from,
but
on
the
broader
picture,
there's
a
long-term
concern
about
you
know:
where
are
we
getting
money
for
these
vital
climate
action
projects
right?
Is
it
from
a
dividend
that
sometimes
occurs
and
that
is
held
by
an
arms
length
agency
of
the
city
of
ottawa?
Or
is
it
part
of
the
city
budget
and
and
chair?
I
take
your
words.
J
You
know
I
I
I
take
them
well
in
the
sense
that
that
you
know
there
is
an
effort
to
kind
of
set
us
up
for
the
long
term.
Absolutely
and
and
commend
you
on
that.
Concern,
of
course,
is
always
every
year
matters
the
emergency
is
now.
The
united
nations
tells
us
we
have
10
years
to
act
to
avoid
climate
catastrophe
from
a
realist
lens.
J
Obviously,
the
city
of
auto
was
not
going
to
do
it
alone,
but
cities
really
have
a
position,
an
opportunity
to
lead
and
so
really
encourage
the
city
of
ottawa
to
kind
of
step
up
and
be
more
ambitious
here.
More
broadly
too,
just
to
remind
the
committee
and
and
taking
the
chairs
notes
off
the
top
in
mind.
You
know
the
the
kind
of
overall
budget
that
energy
evolution
calls
for
is
is
quite
large
right,
621
million
dollars
a
year,
obviously
for
multiple
committees.
J
So
it's
complex:
it's
not
going
to
be
a
single
line
item
in
the
environment
committee
budget
that
tells
us
whether
or
not
we're
meeting
our
commitments
on
climate
action
and
obviously
energy
evolution
was
approved
only
recently.
But
you
know
the
question
for
this
committee
is:
is
how
can
we
ensure
that
that,
over
the
long
term
and
and
to
a
certain
extent,
the
short
term
that
we're
leveraging
those
pots
of
money
from
other
jurisdictions
that
we're
stepping
up
our
game
on
climate
change
and
leading
from
from
this
committee?
J
And
then
also,
I
think
I
think
one
tangible
near-term
step
was
just
is
just
to
bake,
that
regular
energy
evolution
money
into
the
environment
committee
committee's
budget,
so
that
it's
not
an
extra
add-on
that
comes
whenever
you
know
the
city
is
fortunate
enough
to
be
in
a
position
to
receive
a
hydro,
autoid
dividends.
So
I
think,
as
usual,
you've
heard
me
say
this
before
we
urge
council
to
move
faster
and
further
on
the
climate
file,
it's
an
emergency
time
matters
and
on
the
tree
file
we're
plotting
ahead.
E
Thanks
again
chair
and
thank
you
rob
for
being
here
and
your
presentation,
the
the
one
thing
I
wanted
to
raise
with
you
is
around
the
shifts
necessary
in
the
budget,
and
I'm
wondering
if
ecology
ottawa
has
something
in
in
the
works
that
would
show
where
shifts
could
take
place,
and
it's
not
necessarily
you
know,
a
bunch
of
new
taxes
or
something
but
the
the
shifts
within
the
budget
where
we're
spending.
Now
that
should
and
could
be
switched
to
other
areas
that
may
lower
emissions
and
save
funds.
E
So
I
just
I
wonder
if
there's
something
like
that,
if
you
have
ideas
for
us
now
or
in
the
future,
to
come
back
with
with
a
piece
like
that,
because
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
in
terms
of
where
we
need
to
go
next.
You
know
starting
this
year
next
year
and
and
next
term.
What
that's
going
to
look
like
so
is
that
something
on
your
under
radar.
J
Yeah,
thank
you
for
the
question.
I
mean
it's
it.
You
know.
I
think
that
it's
a
it's
a
long-standing
concern
and
you've
heard
you
know,
I
think,
I'm
sure
all
the
members
of
this
committee
have
heard
members
of
of
the
the
environmental
kind
of
community
loosely
speaking
talking
about
this
right.
We
we
see
this
ongoing
investment
in
roads.
We
often
see
a
justification
for
road
growth
and
expansion
projects
using
language
that
we
know
is
simply
untrue.
The
idea
that
it
will
somehow
relieve
congestion.
J
I
understand
that
every
single
counselor
faces
pressures
from
their
constituents
and
and
groups
like
ecology
ottawa
need
to
do
a
better
job
to
talk
about
the
phenomenon
of
induced
demand,
which
obviously
makes
the
eyes
glaze
over
as
soon
as
you
say
it,
but
it's
so
critical
right,
suburban
communities
will
not
see
their
congestion
relieved
with
new
new
roads
and
the
day
that
this
council
acknowledges
that
and
starts
shifting.
The
funds
dramatically
from
the
road
budget
to
climate
action
will
be
a
very
important
significant
day
on
council.
J
We're
seeing
other
cities
move
in
this
direction.
They're
entertaining
policies
like
road
diets,
they're
they're,
using
congestion
charges
basically
disincentivizing
driving,
and
I
understand
that
that's
like
kind
of
the
third
rail
of
municipal
politics,
but
that's
something
that
we'd
like
to
see
the
council
move
in
the
direction
of.
I
know
that
there's
already
support
among
some
members
of
council.
I
think
the
challenge
is
not
so
much.
I
mean
it's
one
thing
to
get
leadership
from
counselors
themselves,
but
also
to
work
in
the
constituencies.
J
E
Thanks
very
much
for
that,
and
I
I
think
it's
important
to
to
raise
that,
and
I
mean
the
more
documentation
we
have
on
that
in
terms
of
specifics.
As
you
know,
road
spending
on
the
development
charges
it's
a
complicated
piece
that
those
those
shifts
slowly
as
as
it's
perceived
of
what
what
was
used
in
previous
years
and
how
those
development
charges
work.
So
that's
all
mixed
up
in
that
as
well,
but
it's
a
it's
a
vitally
important
discussion.
E
I
think-
and
I
think
the
chair
is-
is
right
when
he
says
we've
set
up
a
plan
to
really
meaningfully
shift
the
city
and
we
have
to
we
have
to,
and
we
will
follow
with
actions
on
that
on
that
plan
we're
starting,
but
that
plan,
I
think,
is
a
very
good
one
and
the
chairs
and
the
community
has
led
that
and
now
we're
at
a
point
where
we
do
need
to
see
that
shift.
So
I
appreciate
you
being
here
and
keep
pushing.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
Thanks,
I
think
you
know
one
thing
just
on
that.
One
of
the
challenge
you
have
and
emma
spoke
to
earlier
is
engaging
the
public
and
and
she's
right
a
sector.
A
sector
of
the
public
is
absolutely
engaged,
and
we
know
that
it's
yourself,
it's
angela,
it's
emma
they're
here,
that's
not
the
sector
of
the
public
that
we're
trying
to
engage
it's
that
broader
public.
It's
that
it's!
A
It's
really
the
majority
they're
out
there
and
they
aren't
engaged
in
this
and,
unfortunately,
what
they
believe
what
they
perceive
is
that
it's
it's
a
war
on
them.
It's
it's!
It's
that
that
war
on
cars
that
we
hear
it's.
You
know
what
you
just
said
about
disincentivizing
driving,
that
is
a
red
flag
for
the
majority,
and
it's
it's
trying
to
balance
that
as
that's
what
we
try
to
do.
A
I
think,
even
in
that
energy
evolution
project
everything
we
did,
there
was
trying
to
balance
that
and
and
present
a
plan
that
can
be
accepted
by
the
people
as
as
a
positive
as
a
good
which
it
is.
But
it's
just
about
the
messaging
and
sometimes
we
we
get
lost
in
that
and
we
are
our
own
worst
enemies
when
it
comes
to
messaging,
sometimes
but
appreciate
again
appreciate
all
your
efforts
and
and
being
here
today.
Thank
you.
K
K
I'm
here
today,
I'm
a
family
physician,
I'm
here
to
speak
from
the
health
perspective
of
climate
change,
and
I'm
not
just
representing
myself
here
today.
I
have
colleagues
all
across
ottawa
who
are
extremely
concerned
about
the
climate
emergency
and
the
planetary
health
emergency
that
we
are
currently
in
not
just
in
ottawa,
but
worldwide.
K
We
know
that
ottawa
has
declared
a
climate
emergency
and
from
a
international
perspective,
the
world
health
organization
has
declared
that
climate
climate
change
is
the
greatest
health
threat
facing
the
world
in
the
21st
century,
and
it
compels
us
as
physicians,
to
take
action
to
try
to
protect
the
health
of
of
those
in
our
society,
particularly
those
who
cannot
speak
for
themselves.
The
most
vulnerable
are
children
and
generations
to
come,
all
of
whom
will
be
most
affected
by
by
climate
change.
K
So
for
me,
in
my
practice,
I
see
people
affected
by
climate
change
every
day.
Extreme
heat,
lyme
disease,
mental
health
impacts
from
being
displaced
from
extreme
weather
events
smoke.
I
worked
in
vancouver
for
a
number
of
years
and
there's
the
impact
of
the
wildfire
smoke
is
you
need
to
experience
it
yourself
to
believe
it?
K
So
in
terms
of
the
health
impacts
of
climate
change,
you
heard
me
speak
to
air
pollution,
so
this
is
wildfire.
This
is
pollution
from
our
industry.
This
is
pollution
from
cars
and
all
this
increases
asthma,
which
can
be
life-threatening
for
many
of
our
youngest,
particularly
when
combined
with
extreme
heat,
which
is
another
impact
of
climate
change.
K
It's
as
mentioned,
it
leads
to
increased
heart
attacks,
increased
stroke,
especially
from
air
pollution
alone.
You
heard
me
speak
to
lyme
disease
and
I
don't
need
to
tell
anyone
here
how
prevalent
this
is
and
and
how
it's
just
impacting
further
displacement
of
populations
again
from
wildfire
flooding.
Tornadoes
we've
seen
that
here
and
the
mental
health
impacts
that
come
from
that
internationally.
As
we
see
increased
flooding,
drought,
food
insecurity,
we
do
have
civil
strife
and
and
and
health
income
health
outcomes
are
worsened
as
people
are
displaced
away
from
their
health
infrastructure.
K
K
And
importantly,
you
know-
I
heard
you
know
of
course,
kovid
coming
up
a
few
times
over
and
thinking
that
we're
not
going
to
be
having
covered
in
our
budgetary
concerns
for
next
year,
but
covid19
is
not
separate
from
climate
from
climate
change.
Cova
19
is
a
symptom
of
climate
change.
It
is
a
zoonotic
disease
that
has
occurred
specifically
because
we
have
taken
too
much
from
nature.
K
Without
dramatic
action.
Now
we
will
be
facing
more
frequent
and
recurrent
pandemics.
This
will
be
the
tip
of
our
iceberg
and
none
of
us
want
to
live
in
this.
That
is
certain
right,
but
we've
also
seen
that
when
faced
with
this
health
threat
with
this
with
this
crisis,
we
have
acted
dramatically
cohesively
together
to
prioritize
health.
We
have
shown
that
we
are
able
to
step
up
and
make
significant
changes
when
our
health
is
is
threatened,
and
that
is
what
we
are
looking
at
going
forward.
K
So
the
same
level
of
action
needs
to
be
applied
to
addressing
the
underlying
cause
of
of
colby
19,
climate
change,
our
loss
of
biodiversity,
our
air
pollution,
our
water
pollution
and,
as
mentioned
already,
every
file
needs
to
be
prioritizing
this,
and
this
is
our
future.
This
is
our
children's
future.
K
K
E
K
No,
I
am
saying
that
our
changing
climate
is
contributing
to
increasing
pandemics
worldwide.
Over
the
past
three
decades,
we've
had
a
dramatic
increase
in
the
number
of
zoonotic
so
animal
to
human
viruses
that
have
been
that
have
been
transferred.
This
includes
zika,
ebola,
mers,
sars,
hiv
and
now
kovid19,
so
our
our
behaviors
that
drive
climate
change.
Let's
put
it
that
way.
Our
behaviors
that
drive
climate
change
contribute
significantly
to
this
to
the
opportunities
that
allow
for.
K
K
A
E
A
E
A
L
Thanks
chair,
I
have
more
than
one
first
of
all
to
staff.
Thank
you
for
the
work
that
went
into
this.
It's
very
challenging
to
be
able
to
accurately
predict
in
a
worldwide
pandemic.
What
next
year's
going
to
look
like,
and
maybe
this
section
of
our
budget
is
a
little
more
stable
than
others,
but
I
just
want
to
start
off
by
thanking
staff
for
all
the
work
that
went
into
this.
L
H
Too
so
the
water
bill
includes
the
three
services
water,
wastewater
and
storm.
Previously
it
was
all
in
one
water,
and
then
it
was
a
sewer
charge
now
they've
actually
been
split
out
into
the
three
services
and
the
revenues
associated
with
those
goes
towards
the
operating
costs
of
each
of
those
services,
debt,
servicing
and
then
capital
contributions.
L
L
Okay,
so
I
I
just
want
to
say
I
go
out
in
the
public.
I
get
a
lot
of
grief
that
the
water
bill
rates
are
at
what
they
are
and
they've
been
that
for
many
years
before,
and
they're
projected
to
be
well
above
the
rate
of
inflation
going
forward,
so
my
understanding
has
always
been.
We
have
significant
infrastructure
challenges.
L
M
Mr
chair,
perhaps
I
can
answer
that
question
and
build
on
what
ms
jasmine
had
said.
So
in
infrastructure
services,
we
prioritize
the
rehabilitation
works
for
all
of
the
buried
infrastructure
every
single
year,
based
on
a
risk
management
model.
We
measure
both
the
number
of
free
and
frequency
of
breaks
in
any
particular
area
and
with
high
frequency
of
brakes.
You
know,
there's
low
frequency
of
brakes,
it's
cheaper
to
go
in
and
just
do
a
repair,
but
if
there's
a
high
frequency
of
brakes,
we
go
in
and
look
at
replacement.
M
We
also
look
at
the
age
of
the
infrastructure
in
the
area,
so
you'll
notice
in
this
budget.
A
very
large
amount
of
money
goes
into
integrated
renewal
projects
and
integrated
renewal
projects
are
where
we're
going
and
replacing
the
entire
system
of
underground
infrastructure-
and
we
are
just
at
that
age
of
a
city
where
our
oldest
water
mains,
some
of
which,
like
the
elgin
street,
was
over
100
years
old
and
we
have
ones
in
the
market
that
are
in
that
range
as
well.
M
They
do
need
life
cycle
replacement
and
some
of
the
infrastructure
that
was
built
in
the
rapid
era
of
post-war
growth
wasn't
built
quite
as
durably
as
that.
Early
city
infrastructure
was,
and
it
needs
replacement
at
the
same
time
too.
So
we
are
spending
a
lot
of
money
right
now
in
renewing
that
asset,
those
assets
and
that's
to
ensure
the
integrity
of
the
system,
because
it's
the
backbone
of
our
water
supply
and
water
management
system.
M
Chair,
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
in
any
given
year
we
take
the
money,
that's
available
to
us
from
the
long-range
financial
plan,
and
we
prioritize
that
to
the
projects
of
the
greatest
need
and
also
with
other
coordination
opportunities.
Do
we
have
every
dollar?
We
would
like?
No,
that's
not,
unfortunately,
where
we're
at,
but
we
certainly
take
what
council
has
allocated
to
us
and
prioritize
them
to
the
projects
with
the
greatest
need.
M
L
A
I
think
just
I
just
want
to
jump
in
and
sorry
on
the
on
on
the
tax
thing,
though,
on
that
on
that
increase
above
inflation,
you
have
to
remember
that
in
2008,
2009
2010,
the
water
rate
went
up
by
nine
percent.
We
went
up
by
three
point:
nine
percent
in
2010,
which
was
kind
of
a
fake
thing
that
the
council
I
was
elected
on
did
to
make
it
look
like
we
were
making
it
lower,
but
then
come
2011,
2012
2013.
A
We
went
by
nine
percent
and
eight
percent
every
year
and
we
continued
that
until
2016,
when
we
did
the
the
the
restructuring
of
the
water
rate,
which
made
that
fixed
rate
that
fixed
aspect
of
it,
because
that
was
the
problem-
that's
what
we
weren't
capturing
was
that
fixed
aspect
of
the
cost,
because
there's
an
operating
cost
to
this
and
we
were
doing
it
entirely.
Our
budget
was
structured
entirely
on
consumption,
which
wasn't
wasn't
manageable.
A
L
I
wanted
to
make
sure:
are
we
addressing
our
higher
priority
infrastructure
projects
and
is
that
the
revenues
from
the
rate
increase
going
to
that
staff
say?
Yes,
I
move
on.
I
do
want
to
move
on
to
the
landfill
completely
different
topic
for
staff.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
and
get
staff
to
comment.
I've
been
quite
outspoken.
I
have
no
desire
for
the
city
to
build
another
landfill
20
22
years
from
now.
F
F
The
investments
that
are
that
are
listed
in
in
this
year's
budget
will
help
support
our
existing
asset
in
order
to
make
sure
that
we're
meeting
our
regulatory
requirements
through
the
master
plan.
There
are
a
number
of
component
projects,
multi-rights
diversion
for
example,
and
so
since
we
started
the
the
the
new
contract
on
multi-res,
we've
seen
an
increase
in
in
diversion
and
more
of
those
properties
taking
on
green
bins,
and
so
we've
seen
a
six
percent
increase
since
june.
F
L
F
Yes,
so
in
in
the
budget,
we
tend
to
take
a
conservative
approach
when
we're
estimating
our
revenues,
because
we
know
that
the
markets
are
quite
volatile,
so
we
typically
take
an
average
of
the
last
five
years
in
order
to
to
set
our
budget.
So
right
now
we're
targeting
nine
million
dollars
primarily
from
those
recyclable
revenues
and
and
that
that
way,
we're
able
then
to
should
there
be
shifts
or
adjustments
in
market,
then
we're
more
conservative
in
our
approach.
L
A
L
L
F
Sure
so,
at
a
high
level,
we
do
receive
advance
notice
when,
when
contractors
are
planning
to
bring
asbestos
into
the
landfill
that
way
we're
able
to
to
work
with
our
operations
in
order
to
take
all
of
the
necessary
health
and
safety
provisions.
In
order
to
to
place
that
material,
there
is
a
requirement
for
us
to
be
engaging
with
the.
L
Okay,
so
the
cost
is
that's
cost
recovery,
correct,
yes,
okay
and
I
just
chair
switch
over
to
the
water
side.
Looking
at
the
projected
revenues,
page
two
of
the
water
section
last
year,
2020
we
budget,
188
million
20
20
194
million-
that
I
think
is
reflective
of
the
the
rate
increase.
Is
staff
not
seeing
an
increased
demand
for
water
from
households
because
more
people
are
at
home
and
does
the
budget
accurately
estimate
revenues
factoring
this
in.
H
I'm
so
I
I
can
respond
to
a
chair
in
terms
of
what
happened
in
2020.
So,
yes,
there
was
a
higher
consumption
on
the
residential
side,
but
there
was
a
drop
in
the
commercial
side,
especially
government
buildings
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
it's
offset
and
we're
actually
tracking
towards
our
forecast
volumes.
L
H
L
The
last
section
chair
is
just
on
some
projects
in
my
award.
Can
staff
just
talk
to
me
about
the
carlington
heights
pumping
station?
This
is
the
reservoir
under
carlington
hill.
This
was
a
infrastructure
project
identified
the
last
term
of
council.
It's
been
postponed
a
number
of
years.
Are
we
I'm
looking
at
some
design
money
in
2021
and
some
some
big
money
in
future
years?
Is
this
project
finally
going
to
get
off
the
ground.
M
Chair
just
we'll
commit
to
the
counselor
I'll,
get
you
a
more
detailed
answer
offline,
but
the
short
answer
is:
if
we
are
moving
into
the
design
stage,
that
is
the
essential
step
of
getting
everything
started
and
we
typically
take
a
year
to
design,
and
then
it
puts
it
into
a
tinder
ready
position
for
future
year.
We'll
confirm
the
spend
plan
for
future
years,
which
we'll
be
able
to
go
to
iran.
M
A
We
don't
replace
strat
culverts
under
language
that
those
are
as
per
2008
bylaw.
Those
are
the
property,
those
are
the
owner.
Sorry
you're
gonna,
that's
the
responsibility
of
the
of
the
property
owner,
so
those
are
just
road
culverts
and
they're,
mostly
replacement
of
road
culverts
in
predominantly
the
rural
area.
But
karina
can
add
to
that.
I
Thank
you
chair,
yes
councillor.
I
can.
I
can
answer
to
that.
So,
yes,
those
are
the
typical
culvert
replacement
that
we
do
under
the
road.
So
the
budget
usually
includes
money
for
design
for
the
culverts
that
we
are
going
to
replace
next
year
and
money
for
construction
for
the
culverts
that
have
been
designed
the
previous
year
and
to
confirm
what
the
chair
has
said.
We
do
not
replace
the
culverts
at
the
entrance
of
homes.
L
E
All
right
thanks
very
much
chair
just
I
just
have
three
quick
questions:
comments
on
the
presentation
from
one
of
the
delegations.
Angela
herzog
mentioned
11
million
dollars
in
the
mayor's
budget
speech
for
energy
evolution,
I'm
just
hoping
staff.
Can
you
comment
or
clarify
on
on
that
and
what
it
was
referring
to
if
it
was
a
total
budget
or
staffing
or
something
else,
if
you
were
able
to
to
bring
that.
B
B
Chair,
I
might
be
able
to
help
here.
The
11
million
dollars
is
an
allocation
to
to
my
department
to
the
building
engineering
group.
It
is
it
serves
it's
it's.
It
was
originally
approved
as
three
million
in
each
year
of
this
term
of
council
and
the
with
a
million
dollars
removed
from
the
2020
because
of
pandemic
and
the
impact
on
being
able
to
deliver
projects
this
year
it
serves
in
each
year
to
deliver
about
a
hundred
and
between
100
and
150
projects.
B
Everything
from
building
automation
to
conversion,
to
led
lighting
to
mechanical
upgrades,
to
facilities
to
insulation
window
replacements
at
glebe,
community
center,
counselor,
you're,
probably
aware
of,
was
funded
through
through
this
same
beam
initiative.
So
in
the
in
the
current
budget
there
is
the
2021
budget.
There
is
three
million
dollars
set
aside
and
a
significant
list
projects
go
against
against
that
list
as
we
complete
20.
What
what
is
left
of
the
2020
and
2019
project.
E
M
Mr
mr
chair,
through
the
count
in
the
last
committee
meeting
when
and
council
meeting,
when
the
hydro
dividend
surplus
was
approved
for
spending,
there
were
a
number
of
additional
positions
in
our
climate
change
group
that
were
approved
as
term
positions.
We
are
not
as
a
department
asking
for
any
permanent
ftes
in
any
budget
in
any
standing
committee
this
year
because
of
our
fiscal
situation,
but
we
did
have
additional
term
positions
approved
in
that,
and
I.
M
E
M
E
That's
helpful.
Thank
you.
I
mean
I
get
at
that
because
I
think
what
we
need
to
make
sure
is
that
we've
got
the
capacity
the
fdes
within
the
climate
change
team
necessary
to
understand
to
apply
for
advocate
for
and
capture
significant
new
climate
change,
related
funding
streams,
particularly
at
the
federal
level,
but
also
our
friends
at
fcm
and
and
other
provincial
streams
and
non-government
pieces
as
well,
so
that
that's
really
where
my
focus
is
for
a
portion
of
that
team.
E
I
know
we
do
this
on
a
number
of
levels
within
the
municipality,
but
I
think
that
team
is
uniquely
positioned
to
help
us
in
that
regard,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we've
got
the
capacity
there
on
the
last
question.
Chair
is
around
our
rate,
supported
budgets,
our
water
and
our
our
storm,
water,
our
drinking
water
and
our
sewer
surcharge
for
sanitary
stormwater,
and
I'm
raising
this.
I
think
our
municipality
is
actually
lower
than
a
lot
of
other
cities
and
towns
in
terms
of
what
we
charge
for
these
these
services.
E
They
have
been
going
up
quite
a
bit
lately,
bringing
us
more
in
line,
but
one
area,
and
I'm
not
talking
about
the
total
bill
or
anything
like
that.
It's
the
it's
the
incentive
to
to
save
and
we've
got
categories
of
of
up
to
six
cubic
meters.
Then
we
go
up
to
25
cubic
meters,
and
then
we
really
jump
and
from
that
six
to
25
it's
it's
a
doubling
of
the
rate,
and
so
I
think
it
would
be
nice.
What
I'm
trying
to
get
at
is
for
for
individual
folks,
individual
residents.
E
The
incentive
to
save
water
may
be
incentivized
further
by
putting
in
another
category
between
that
six
and
that
25
that's
a
that's
a
larger
jump
and
then
the
the
bigger
ones
that
I
see
there,
the
the
fees
don't
differentiate
very
much
they
go
up
slightly,
but
that
six
to
25
it
doubles
on
the
sewer
and
the
and
the
water
drinking
water
piece.
So
I
think
it'd
be
nice
to
to
start
this
conversation
a
little
bit
more.
I've
talked
a
couple
times
with
finance
about
it,
but
just
to
keep
it
going
around.
E
H
So
I
can
comment:
actually
we
are
planning
next
year
to
come
back
with
a
long-range
financial
plan
that
revisits
the
rate
structure
as
part
of
the
previous
report,
we
committed
within
the
term
of
council
to
review
the
right
structure
now
that
we've
got
two
years
under
our
belt
to
see
how
it
actually
is
working.
We've
got
much
better
data
to
understand
how
we
can
structure
it
going
forward,
so
that
will
be
part
of
the
lrfp
review
next
year.
N
Thank
you
for
for
the
engagement.
I
think
it's
it's
very
helpful
with
additional
context
to
you
allow
in
terms
of
the
sharing
of
the
meeting
so
want
to
go
in
the.
I
have
a
number
of
questions
not
too
long
ago,
but
in
the
rate,
in
the
rate
budget,
on
page
27
of
the
the
large
the
full
version,
we
have
a
reduction
in
wastewater
billing
expenses
and
a
revenue
story,
and
I
just
wanted
to
understand.
N
H
N
And
that
relates
to
covid
sort
of
folks
staying
at
home.
I'm
not
sure
I
understand
that
fully.
So
if
I
flush
my
toilet,
there's
there's
a
there's
clean
water,
that's
in
which
is
a
consumption
component,
that's
in
the
water
bill,
but
then
we
don't
calculate
the
amount
that
is
flushed.
So
I
didn't
understand
how
that
how
that
revenue
is
shifting.
H
N
N
I
don't
know
how
colleagues
feel,
but
I
always
get
annoyed
when
it
becomes
a
trip
hazard
on
a
sidewalk.
It
becomes
a
a
pothole
on
a
street,
so
you
know
mr
willis
court
and
rob
mclaughlin
are
quite
involved
in
the
review.
I'm
I'm
happy
that
they're
reviewing
that
side
of
the
business,
but
I'm
curious
to
see.
Where
does
the
revenue
out
of
that
fund?
Go.
M
So
chair,
currently
the
that
those
fees
are
actually
under
review
right
now,
we
we
did
an
initial
stage
of
review
in
terms
of
road
activity
bylaw.
We
have
a
further
stage
coming
in
2021
to
council,
which
we'll
have
again
a
review
of
those
fees.
Historically,
those
fees
have
were
much
lower
and
raised
very
little
money
and
basically
funded
the
operations
of
inspections.
M
Now
that
the
fees
have
increased
a
little
bit,
we've
for
the
first
time
turned
money
over
to
the
asset
management
group
for
reinvestment
and
road
infrastructure,
and
that
was
only
possible
this
year
because
in
the
last
year,
so
more
work
to
be
done
for
sure,
and
certainly
that's
the
intent
of
where
it
will
go.
But
it's
it's
a
work
in
progress.
M
The
project
was
somewhat
delayed
because
of
the
covet
emergency.
We
haven't
been
able
to
do
some
of
the
work
on
this
because
of
other
priorities,
but
the
goal
is
still
to
try
to
get
this
this
term
of
council
to
get
an
update
in
this.
I'm
hoping
it
can
be
done
in
2021
if
it
drifts
a
bit
into
the
into
the
following
months.
N
Okay
appreciate
that
yeah,
the
one
of
the
things
that
hasn't
stopped
through
covetous
construction,
so
it's
important
for
us
to
to
keep
on
top
of
of
the
damages
that
are
that
we
undertake
on
in
our
infrastructure
further
down
on
page
13
same
thing,
so
there's
a
tree
fee,
and
I
know
that
there's
changes
coming
into
the
tree
bylaw
the
tree
protection
bylaw
in
january,
which
is
great.
I
think
everyone's
happy
with
that.
But
but
I'm
curious
to
understand
where
the
those
the
funds
for
that
pocket
go
again.
N
M
So
chair,
I
don't
know
if
any
of
my
colleagues
from
public
works,
environmental
services
are
on
the
line.
If
they
are,
I
will
yield
to
them
because
this
money
goes
into
the
forestry
operations.
I
see
martha's
on
the
call
and
she
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
right
now.
The
the
fees
that,
as
they
are
structured
today,
are
really
cost
recovery
for
our
forestry
operations
related
to
this
permitting
activity.
As
we
go
into
subsequent
stages,
there
are
new
compensation
systems.
M
O
Thanks
so
much
steve
sorry,
I
waited
there
because
I
I
thought
that
maybe
luke
was
online
to
take
some
of
these
questions,
but
yeah
the
the
new
application
fees
that
will
come
into
play.
As
of
january
1st,
when
the
new
bylaw
comes
into
effect,
they
will
cost
recover
these
three
positions
that
you
see
for
forestry
and
those
three
positions
are
specifically
to
help
implement
the
the
new
bylaws.
N
N
A
So
if
you
remember,
we
approved
that
three-year
extension
of
our
collection
contracts.
That's
what
this
is.
It's
that
it's
that
extended
contract
and
that
was
renegotiated
with
with
our
with
our
internal
group
as
well
as
our
outside
provider,
which
is
now
only
miller
because
waste
management
we
moved
on
from
and
then
it's
built
in
over
the
next
two
years.
A
F
A
N
You
yeah,
I
know
I
appreciate
the
clarification
and
then
my
final
one
is
on
page
38
and
that
refers
to
the
green
fleet
segment.
So
can
can
you
refresh
my
mind?
I
understand
that
a
year
number
of
years
ago
we
created
a
green
fleet
which
then
the
fleet
services,
when
they
purchased
vehicles,
would
offset
any
other
any
additional
expenses
for
the
purchase
of
a
vehicle
or
or
suv
if
it
was
a
of
korean
goals,
is,
is
that
still
how
that
works,
or
with
the
energy
evolution?
N
M
P
N
Hey
in
your
consideration
for
a
green
fleet,
can
we
can
we
sort
of
tie
in
those
worlds,
because
I,
with
the
energy
evolution,
it's
very
clear
that
transportation
and
purchases
of
our
own
fleet
as
a
a
big
indicator
of
the
the
ghg
and
emission
impact?
So
how
do
you
see
that
plan
take
take
structure
like
what
are
the
frameworks?
Is
there
a
big
shift
happening
as
I
predict.
N
How
do
we?
How
do
we
create
that
momentum
in
our
procurement
for
future
fleet
purposes
to
meet
that?
I
think
the
committee
chair
was
was
what
was
quite
right
earlier
when
he
described
the
energy
evolution
where
it
would
it
anchors
future
decision
making,
and
I
see
that
as
a
fundamental
one
in
how
we
purchase
equipment-
and
I
I
I'm
not.
I
find
the
the
approach
to
create
a
green
fleet
fund
to
be
quite
quite
old
and
mindset.
P
P
I
think
we
brought
in
more
than
50
vehicles
last
year
that,
where
hybrids
are
electric,
there's
a
lot
more
available
on
the
market,
we're
finally
getting
to
the
point
that
the
world
is
tipping
and
we're
getting
options
that
will
meet
the
operations
of
our
services,
which
has
always
been
a
stumbling
block.
So
the
technology
is
just
evolving
so
rapidly.
We
probably
do
need
to
adjust
a
little
bit,
so
we
have
a
more
agile
plan.
Absolutely
so
that's
that's
where
we're
at
now,
and
we
do
hope
to
come
forward
with
something
in
2021
and
again.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
yeah.
I
think
on
that.
Just
back
on
that
that
surcharge
thing,
I
think
the
way
it
generally
works
is,
I
think,
if
I'm
wrong,
I
think
it's
117,
so
the
sewer
surcharge
is
117
of
the
consumption
it
gets.
It
gets
confusing
when
you
go
to
a
place
like
richmond,
where
they're
only
on
sewer,
predominantly
and
most
of
the
village
is
on
on
well,
but
it's
well,
but
a
sewer
system
that
was
installed
back
50
years
ago
and
they
actually
have
to
factor
in
because
you
can't
meter
sewage.
A
You
actually
have
to
do
it
based
on
average.
So
it's
kind
of
you
know
that
that's
actually
an
area
where
you
know
a
large
family
like
mine
would
get
a
benefit
because
it's
done
on
an
average
family,
whereas
a
single
resident
ends
up
paying
a
bit
more
because
it's
really
the
only
way
to
factor
in
how
to
charge
for
just
sewer.
A
B
I
just
wanted
to
take
this
opportunity
to
make
a
quick
comment
wearing
my
chair,
public
health
hat
and
and
thank
the
the
staff
that
might
be
on
the
line
now
for
the
emerging
role
they're
playing
in
the
fight
against
kobit
in
providing
very
helpful
data
to
the
city.
So
I
just
wanted.
I
know
it's
not
budget
related,
but
I
want
to
take
the
opportunity,
as
I
figured
staff
for
likely
on
the
line
and
it's
it's
it's
a
different
approach
to
collecting
data,
but
it's
turning
out
to
be
a
very
helpful
one.
B
B
Trees,
of
course,
are
very
important
by
ward.
They
always
have
been,
but
have
become
much
more
so
since
the
impact
of
the
tornado
a
number
of
years
ago-
and
I'm
just
wondering-
I
see
martha's
on
the
line-
perhaps
she's
the
best
one-
to
answer
the
question
going
into
our
our
budget
year
for
2021
what
programs
and
how
much
money
is
set
aside
for
the
planting
of
of
new
trees
in
the
city.
O
B
Thank
you
for
the
question
chair,
we'll
I
I
can
certainly.
I
can
certainly
provide
you
with
some
some
offline
details
on
that
counselor,
but
the
the
I
think,
steve
willis
alluded
to
the
2021
budget
is
around
cost
living
increases
and
whatnot,
and
our
our
our
fiscal,
our
fiscal
issues
around
2021,
but
we'll
continue
to
have
the
the
the
same
planning
programs
that
we've
had
in
the
past.
I
can
certainly
I
can
certainly
take
it
offline
and
provide
us
more
details.
B
What
could
happen
in
in
ward
9?
I
I
was
not
particularly
in
ward
9
but
the,
but
that
breakdown
would
be,
would
be
nice
as
well.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that,
with
everything
going
on
that,
we
haven't
lost
sight
of
the
importance
of
of
replanting
in
the
city
and
wanted
to
make
sure
those
programs
were
still
available
for
people
like
trees
and
trust
to
to
apply
and
and
again
luke.
B
B
B
A
Thank
you
all
right.
Thank
you.
I
mean
keep
an
eye
on
your
inbox,
because
every
year
we
always
get
updates
our
tree
planting
update
tracy.
The
schwetz
is
always
good
to
send
us
an
update
per
award
of
where
tree
planting
is
carrying
on
in
our
in
our
own
wards.
So
thank
you,
councillor,
egleck,
thank
you.
Luke
catherine
mckinney.
Q
Thank
you
chair.
Just
a
couple
of
quick
questions
just
want
to
clarify
following
up
on
the
green
fleet
procurement,
I
guess,
if
I'm,
if
I'm
looking
at
the
budget
here
for
fleet
costs,
you
know
in
forestry,
solid
waste
infrastructure
services,
natural
systems
do
do
those
budget
numbers
take
into
account
the
probability
of
electrifying
most
of
our
fleet,
or
is
it
still
is
it
still
business
as
usual
until
we
until
we
move
forward
with
with
a
new
procurement
policy,.
P
P
P
Q
O
Hi,
okay,
so,
basically,
as
we
said,
this
is
the
the
three
positions
that
are
in
there
are
for
the
specifically
for
implementing
the
tree
bylaw,
and
so
it's
the
nutri
like
it
will
cover
the
that
decrease
to
30
centimeters
from
the
motion
and
and
all
the
items
related
to
the
new
tree
bylaw
in
terms
of
the
urban
forest
management
plan.
As
a
bigger
item
that
really
has
that
tree
bylaw
part
of
the
urban
forest
management
plan
has
been
our
focus
right
now
right,
and
so
that's
what
we've
that's
what
we've
pushed
forward.
O
That
was
our
sort
of
big
request
for
this
year.
We
have
a
few
more
items
that
we're
going
to
be
working
on
once
we
get
past
this
january
first
date
that
are
part
of
the
first
management
period
of
the
urban
forest
management
plan,
and
we
actually
will
be
coming
back
to
this
committee
next
fall
because
we're
coming
to
the
end
of
the
first
management
period,
so
we'll
be
reporting
on
where
we
are
with
everything
we've
been
working
on
and
where
we
plan
to
go
into
the
second
management
period.
O
One
of
the
big
items
that
is
still
to
be
done
that
we'll
be
starting
in
the
winter,
is
a
look
at
our
tree,
planting
programs
and
basically
it's
sort
of
like
the
tie
together
piece
so
to
tie
together.
The
canopy
cover
work
that
we've
been
doing
the
the
tree,
bylaw,
of
course,
which
stands
on
its
own
doing
the
true
protection
thing
and,
and
with
you
know,
new
policies
in
the
official
plan
around
urban
forest.
O
How
we
can
tie
all
that
together
and
make
sure
that
our
tree
planting
programs
are
meeting
what
we
need
to
be
meeting.
So
we
talked
before
about
that
idea
of
like
prioritizing
tree
planting
and
how
we
prioritize
it
and
where
we're
doing
it,
taking
into
account
our
canopy
cover.
That's
the
kind
of
work
we're
going
to
be
doing
moving
forward
and
we'll
be
coming
back
to
council
with
sort
of
a
summary
of
what
that
is,
and
essentially
like
how
we
plan
to
meet
any
new
targets
we
may
have
into
the
future.
O
M
Sheriff
I
may
briefly
add
to
what
martha
said.
Another
significant
thing:
that's
in
the
is
in
the
planning,
infrastructure
and
economic
development
department
is,
we
have
a
term
position
which
is
a
new
position
for
us
to
have
a
forester
focused
on
committee
of
adjustment
applications,
and
I
know
councillor
kavanaugh
and
councillor
egleye,
and
I've
had
long
conversations
about
the
need
to
put
more
effort
into
that
particular
area.
Q
B
A
A
D
I
just
really
wanted
to
confirm
in
in
terms
of
a
project
of
my
ward
with
staff
in
terms
of
the
brittany
drive
water
pumping
station
timelines.
I
just
wanted
to
confirm
whether
those
timelines
have
been
or
have
not
been
negatively
impacted
by
the
colvin
19
budget
adjustments.
I
know
in
in
the
summer
I
was
advised
by
the
treasurer
that
there
would
be
capital
deferments.
M
Chair
we're
just
verifying
the
information
and
we
will
again
commit
to
give
the
council
more
detailed
information
on
the
project
schedule,
but
we
looking
through
our
information
we
have
here
that
the
project
has
not
been
affected.
It
was
planned.
It's
on
it's
on
the
budget.
It's
in
the
timeline.
We
anticipated.
D
I
appreciate
that
that
was
the
primary
question
I
had,
especially
since
that
pumping
station
will
be
serving
10
000
new
residents
within
within
the
ward
within
the
former
rockcliff
air
force
base
environment.
So
I
just
wanted
to
ensure
that
that
project
was
on
schedule
and
and
on
point.
Thank
you
chair.
B
I
I
L
Thanks
jerry,
I
just
wanted
to
ask
ms
mcdonald
about
the
recycling
or
lack
thereof
in
our
city
parks,
an
issue
that's
been
raised
for
a
few
years
now,
and
I
know
the
waste
management
plan
is,
is
coming
back
and
this
may
be
embedded
in
it.
What
is
the
plan
in
2021,
particularly
for
our
major
parks
like
muniz
bay?
L
This
was
a
great
year
in
that
particular
park
for
visits,
obviously
with
covet
and
limited
options
to
do
and
the
closure
of
the
beach
at
britannia
we
had
when
you
remove
the
festivals,
I
think
record
numbers
from
all
the
years.
I've
lived
here,
but
what
I
saw
consistently
every
weekend
were
garbage
cans
filled
with
recyclable
material.
F
Oh
great,
thank
you
for
that
question
so
happy
to
report
and
as
part
of
the
budget
presentation
that
we're
planning
to
expand
the
recycling
and
parks
program
in
2021
looking
to
have
up
to
20
parks
and
one
destination
park.
So
we
will
be
connecting
with
counselors
in
order
to
understand
better
from
you.
What
parts
that
you
would
like
us
to
consider.
F
So
then,
that
way,
we're
able
to
put
together
a
plan
that
that's
going
to
be
well
received
by
by
the
residents
and
wanting
to
make
sure
that
we're
hitting
on
the
areas
that
you
feel
are
important
so
that
that
is
our
approach
for
2021..
As
you.
As
you
know,
ipr
regulation,
the
draft
regulations
have
come
forward
and
that
will
cause
some
changes
starting
in
in
2023.
F
So
we're
wanting
to
use
2021
as
further
data
gathering
and
information
in
order
to
help
support
the
solid
waste
master
plan,
which
will
come
back
with
a
more
formal
approach
for
recycling
and
parks.
But
we
didn't
want
to
do
nothing
in
2021,
so
we
have
endeavored
to
to
put
forward
an
extension
of
our
parks
pilot,
including
at
destination
park.
L
L
L
Thank
you.
Can
you
also
talk
to
whether
the
city's
open
to
letting
community
groups
who
want
to
take
on
recycling
in
parks
that
don't
have
the
facilities
there
to
do
it
themselves?
Meaning
people
have
approached
me
and
said:
listen.
We
are
willing
to
put
our
gloves
on
and
literally
go
through
the
garbage
and
extract
recyclables
which
either
they
want
to
recycle
or
even
though
they
could
have
value
if
they
bring
them
over
to
gatineau,
but
is
the
city
open
to
that
or
is
covid
throwing
a
monkey
wrench
in
us
endorsing
such
a
plan.
F
L
Yeah,
I'm
very
keen
for
us
to
stop
having
recyclables
go
into
the
trash.
You
know
in
all
parks,
let
alone
these
bigger
perks
that
I
have
in
my
award
there's
just
the
quantity
is
so
big
and
to
work
with
staff
on
I
understand
the
logistics.
I
completely
understand
the
logistic
challenges
of
collecting
this
and
making
sure
it's
sorted,
but
mr
chair,
as
I
said
before,
it's
2020
and
I'm
I'm
very
much
looking
forward
to
seeing
a
plan
from
staff
fairly
soon
so
I'll
connect
in
that
regard.
A
A
Okay,
that'll
solve
the
problem
and
it'll.
You
know,
resolve
the
whole
requirement
for
the
hunger
games,
auto
audition.
Okay,
thank
you.
So
thank
you
to
everyone.
Council.
Thank
you
to
staff,
so
I'll
just
run
through
the
okay.
So
councilman
already
read
out
the
the
full,
the
two,
the
two
robot
motions:
does
anyone
actually
want
to
hive
off
any
piece
of
the
road
map,
or
are
you
okay
with
just
carrying
the
two
motions,
as
they
are
all
together?
A
A
A
So
it's
the
idea
of
you
know
looking
at
opportunities
to
fund
energy
evolution
projects
in
the
future.
That
would
that
would
help
the
city
long
term.
Finding
up,
I
mean,
I
think
the
the
best
example
in
the
past,
of
course,
is
the
led
lighting,
something
that
we
went
invested
in
put
money
in
working
with
a
partner
which
is
energy
ottawa
now
and
vari,
I
believe,
is
the
name
they
go
by
now
on
replacing
the
lights
and
seeing
that
return.
Investment,
so
it'd
be
a
similar,
similar
idea
to
this.
A
C
C
The
comments
I
think
are
not
well
taken
and
behind
our
delegations
stand
a
lot
of
people
a
lot
of
volunteer
time
and
represent
hundreds
of
hours
of
work
and
expertise
in
terms
of
trying
to
understand
the
budget
and
some
of
these
specialized
climate
finance
issues.
It's
our
the
presentation
that
I'm
bringing
to
this
committee
represents
the
work
of
dozens
of
people
in
community
associations
and
hundreds
of
hours
of
expertise.
A
A
I
enjoy
your
presence
at
this
committee
and
I
enjoy
the
fact
that
you
take
the
time
all
the
time
to
come
out
to
this
committee
and
speak,
and
I
know
that
you
speak
on
behalf
of
the
group
that
you
represent,
which
is
a
myriad
of
community
associations
focusing
on
and
environmental
sustainability.
I
fully
recognize
that
I
was
just
having
fun
this
situation
that
that
we
we
have
you
here
with
us
and
for
these
three
items
of
the
five.
That's
merely
all
it
was,
and
I
I
think
you
know
rob.
A
C
Okay,
so
let
the
clock
start
speaking
to
the
motion
regarding
funding
of
cost-effective
energy
evolution
projects.
I
am
speaking
in
favor
of
the
motion,
and
I
have
three
observations.
First
of
all,
now
is
an
excellent
time
to
invest
in
capital
projects.
As
you
have
heard,
the
majority
of
climate
projects
proposed
by
energy
evolution
has
a
positive
return,
and
some
of
these
returns
over
the
longer
term
is
like
is
multi-multi-year,
and
the
city
has
access
to
very
low
cost
finance
at
this
time.
C
So
if
you're,
borrowing
in
2021
for
half
a
percent
and
compared
to
borrowing
say
two
years
down
the
road
for
one
percent,
if
you
lock
in
today's
rates
that
debt
service
cost
will
be
half
so
very
much
welcome.
The
second
point
is
that
the
energy
evolution
plan
calls
for
a
city
contribution
of
seven
billion
dollars
to
the
financing
of
the
energy
transition,
so
we
most
certainly
need
a
long-range
financial
plan.
C
It's
clear
that
an
asset
of
the
city
is
our
capacity
on
the
human
resources
side,
where
we've
seen
very
prudent
and
innovative
financial
management
on
the
financial
side,
the
city
is
able
to
borrow.
The
city
is
also
able
to
lend
and
we
have
the
proposal
for
the
better
home
energy
retrofit
program
and
the
city
is
also
able
to
blend
financing
from
in
terms
of
grants
and
loans
from
other
levels
of
government.
C
A
All
right,
thank
you
for
that
suggestion.
I'm
not
yeah,
I'm
not
sure
if
we've
considered
something
like
that
per
se,
but
it's
certainly
something
that
happy
to
speak
to
staff
about
and
I'm
sure
other
members
of
committee
will
we'll
look
into
that
demonstration.
Often
we
try
to
work
with
with
with
existing
partners
like
like
the
situation
of
venvari,
a
partner,
that's
fully
equipped
to
be
able
to
to
undertake
certain
initiatives
on
our
behalf.
A
I
don't
think
we
have
any
specific
questions
for
you
on
this
on
this
specific
item,
but
I
will
have
council
bernard
speak
to
the
item
and
the
genesis
of
it
before
coming
here.
So
thank
you,
angela
appreciate
it
so
cancer.
Do
you
wanna.
I
mean
I
probably
should
have
asked
you
to
kind
of
intro
it
before
we
went
to
delegations,
but
I
figured
I'd.
Give
you
that
opportunity
now.
E
Thanks
jared,
if
you
want
me
to
read
it,
I
can
it
it's
long,
but
I'll,
just
intro
it
for
now,
and
you
tell
me
what
you'd
like
after
that,
but
essentially
I
want
to
thank
city
staff,
so
climate
change,
team,
isabelle
jasmine,
in
particular
from
from
treasury,
for
helping
to
to
draft
this.
We
went
back
and
forth
on
on
how
this
could
work
and,
I
think,
have
a
good
motion
in
front
of
us
now.
E
E
It's
not
all
city
based,
there's
a
lot
of
other
orders
of
government
that
have
to
do
this,
but
we
have
a
a
role
to
play
in
all
of
this
and
we're
counting
on
on
other
orders
of
government,
but
makes
sense
to
do
what
we
can
on
the
municipal
side
and
so
looking
at
the
the
interest
rate
environment
right
now.
The
opportunity
to
invest
up
front
for
long
term
or
short
term
savings
and
returns
is
is
what
this
is
all
about.
Some
of
the
examples
are:
are
municipal
building
retrofits.
E
They
they
pay
for
themselves.
There
used
to
be
a
five-year
return.
I
think
now
we're
at
an
eight-year
return.
Significant
amounts
of
of
ghg
reduction
emission
reduction,
other
projects
that
generate
revenue
like
selling
waste
heat
from
sewage.
These
are
the
sorts
of
things
that
we
would
look
at
and
there's
a
number
of
other
examples
that
the
the
energy
evolution
team
climate
change
team
has
has
come
up
with.
E
So
it
makes
sense
if,
if
we're
gonna
see
savings
as
a
city
over
time
to
to
look
at
low
interest,
borrowing
to
achieve
greater
savings
and
that
borrowing
costs
it's
it's
rare
and,
I
think,
a
municipality
where
you
know
you
invest
and
it
pays
you
back.
It's
not
just
a
service
output,
but
there's
a
payback
and
that's
what
we're
we're
speaking
about
here
today,
those
items
that
can
pay
back
while
also
lowering
our
emissions.
So
I
think
with
that
chair
I'll
I'll,
send
it
back
to
you.
A
B
H
So
we
have
room
from
a
credit
rating
perspective.
The
impact
is
on
our
annual
debt
servicing
costs.
So
that's
why
it's
important
to
line
it
up
with
the
overall
long-range
financial
plan,
because
it's
an
affordability
issue.
We
can
increase
debt,
but
it
has
an
impact
on
our
annual
debt
servicing
and
it
has
to
fit
into
the
overall
framework
in
terms
of
what
is
affordable.
P
A
Just
just
to
be
clear,
just
to
jump
in
the
what's
in
front
of
us
is
asking
us
to
direct,
was
prince
directing
staff
to
consider
the
affordability
of
raising
the
debt
ceiling.
We
aren't
today
asking
council
to
raise
the
debt
ceiling,
whatever
decision
we
make
from
this
report
from
council
monarch
on
both
one
and
two
will
result
in
the
coming
back
to
us
to
discuss
further
before
we
implement
anything,
we
aren't
making
decisions
today
that
will
impact
the
debt
ceiling
or
the
credit
rating.
B
A
P
If
I
may
chair
just
to
add
to
that,
I
think
in
terms
of
of
what's
being
asked
here
today,
counselor
cliche
is
is
some
work
that
we're
doing
already
and
quite
frankly,
work
that
we're
doing
more
holistically
across
the
city,
so
not
just
related
to
energy
evolution
and
dealing
with
sort
of
that
financial
piece
and
answering
that
question.
We're
endeavoring
to
review
a
number
of
our
long-range
financial
plans
and
you're
going
to
see
them
come
back
over
the
next
year
or
so.
So.
B
A
You
thank
you,
council
clutches,
so
in
my
in
my
haste
I
didn't
update
my
speakers
list
from
a
previous
one.
I
was
working
on.
We
do
have
a
second
speaker
on
this,
so
I'm
just
going
to
jump
them
right
into
there
in
between
counselors
and
we'll
go
to
david
wilson
with
the
ottawa
south
ecoaction
network.
B
Mr
chair
and
counselors,
I
am
speaking
on
behalf
of
osean
the
ottawa
south
echo
action
network.
We
serve
the
federal
and
provincial
ridings
of
waterloo
and
we
encompass
the
wards
of
the
river
alta
vista
and
a
small
piece
of
gavel
award,
and
I
saw
canceling
beans
earlier
in
the
the
zoom
meeting.
So
we
have
all
four
of
our
representatives
at
the
virtual
table
today.
B
B
I
believe
that
the
city
has
done
a
thorough
job
of
analyzing,
the
ghg
situation
and
coming
up
with
a
plan
to
attack
the
greatest
problem
are
lifetimes.
It
is
indeed
an
emergency
even
greater
than
the
pandemic.
The
only
problem
is,
will
it
be
funded
as
many
canadian
and
international
advocates
pushed
governments
to
build
back
better?
We
as
a
city
can
take
advantage
of
the
funding
flowing
to
pandemic
relief
to
do
just
that.
B
Only
if
we
are
seriously
in
the
game
will
significant
funds
flow
from
other
levels
of
government,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
funds
available
knows
that
people
must
change
to
combat
climate
crisis
and
we
are
ready
to
help
the
city
we
and
other
community
groups
represented
here
today
can
help
the
city
with
advocacy
several
of
the
energy
owners
and
products.
Detailed
and
the
documents
submitted,
come
under
advocacy,
but
do
not
have
a
price
tag.
B
B
B
A
Thank
you,
mr
wilson
appreciates
you
being
here
today
speaking.
I
know
I
have
a
couple
counselors
that
are
ready
to
speak
to
the
report
itself.
Does
anyone
have
any
questions
for
mr
wilson
I'm
seeing
none?
I
just
want
to
thank
you
again,
sorry
for
the
delay
in
getting
to
you
but
appreciate
you
coming
here
today.
D
Thank
you
chair.
As
we
know,
ontario
municipalities
traditionally
do
fund
their
investments
from
property
taxes,
user
fees
and
transfers
from
higher
levels
of
government,
but
these
sources,
as
we
know,
will
not
be
sufficient
to
fund
both
current
expenditures
and
future
capital
needs
to
address
the
necessary
investments
to
really
mitigate
the
climate
challenge.
D
As
a
consequence,
I
do
support
councillor
menard's
motion
to
have
city
staff,
explore
climate
financing,
opportunities
that
include
debt
limit
adjustments,
bonds
and
and
loans,
such
as
green
bonds
and
the
limited
use
of
reserve
funds.
I
did
note
during
the
discussion
with
it
with
our
deputy
ms
keller
herzog,
that
there
were
different
type
of
model
that
that
was
suggested
in
terms
of
a
corporation
that
could
deal
with
investments.
P
Thank
you
counselor
for
the
question.
I
think
that's
something
we
really
need
to
understand
in
terms
of
what's
being
asked
and
what
kind
of
kind
of
setup
that
would
be
and
how
arm's
length
it
would
be
from
there
we'd
have
to
take
a
look
at
the
appropriate
legislation
in
the
municipal
act
in
terms
of
what
we
can
and
can't
do
around
investments
to
determine
if
that's,
truly
feasible
or
not.
D
Okay,
I
I
would
just
love
to
see
that
exploration,
if
possible,
in
this
exercise.
As
we
know,
the
the
federal
government
is
has
established
an
infrastructure
bank.
I
just
want
to
know
whether
this
would
be
the
most
efficient
model
to
potentially
apply
for
the
the
large
range
of
of
initiatives
that
they
will
support,
whether
it's
around
clean
power
or
whether
it's
around
large
scale
building
retrofits.
D
So
that's
something
ideally
I'd
like
some
consideration
at
two,
and
hopefully
this
motion
can
speak
to
that,
because
I
do
believe
that
the
use
of
debt
financing
is
a
logical
choice
for
capital
projects
requiring
sufficient
upfront
investments
as
market
liquidity.
Right
now
is
is
definitely
plentiful.
D
Current
interest
rates
are
extremely
low
and,
and
obviously
borrowing
is
a
logical
choice
for
capital
projects,
as
we've
seen
with
the
lrt
that
requires
significant
upfront
investment
as
a
city.
So
if
we
could
get
a
little
bit
more
detail
in
the
report,
I'll
I'll
look
forward
to
that
chair,
thank
you.
A
A
E
I
can
comment
thank
you,
chair
and,
and
thanks
for
raising
this
counselor
king,
it's
an
important
one
within
the
energy
evolution
document
there
are.
There
is
a
section
around
the
municipal
budget
implications
and
it
goes
through
various
municipal
sources
of
funding
that
could
be
explored.
It's
in
section
4.6
and
the
motion
does
speak
to
it
in
one
of
the,
whereas
clauses
not
in
a
be
it
resolve
clause,
but
it
speaks
to
financing
opportunities
either.
E
You
know
in
terms
of
debt,
limit
adjustments,
bonds,
loans,
as
you
mentioned,
green
bonds,
reserve
funds,
but
within
that
document,
and
indeed
with
the
the
climate
change
team
they're
certain
from
what
my
conversation
they're
very
open
to
different
models
that
could
achieve
this
and
to
the
delegation's
comments,
certainly
open
to
it.
So
I
think
within
the
whereas
clause
we're
covered
within
that
clause.
If,
if
staff
are
saying,
we
need
something
additional
to
say,
look
at
other
mechanisms,
I
would
put
it
in
the
motion
and
be
completely
friendly
about
that.
D
A
L
Thanks
chair
just
a
few
questions,
first
of
all
to
counselors
counselor,
clutches
question:
where,
when
you
intervened
and
said,
this
is
basically
about
giving
a
mandate
to
study
further.
This
is
what
that
is
right.
Counselor
menard
is
asking
staff
to
do
the
work,
come
back
to
fedco
and
we'll
decide
what
to
do
at
that
point.
But
my
I
want
to
focus
on
clause
1
first,
so
I
have
a
question
to
staff,
and
that
is
once
council
endorsed
the
the
master
plan,
the
climate
change
master
plan.
L
Was
it
not
already
part
of
their
plan
to
do
what
is
outlined
in
item
one,
and
that
is
look
at
projects
that
they
can
put
resources
towards
that
generate
income
or
savings
to
the
city?
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
whether
council
menard's
motion,
you
know,
there's
greater
nuance,
he's
specifically
looking
at
projects
that
will
generate
income
or
save
us
money.
Is
this
new
or
were
staff
already
planning
to
do
this?.
M
Here
I
don't
know
if,
if
I
should
answer
this
or
counselor
menard
should
answer
this,
but
I
I
think
the
difference
between
what
council
menards
put
forward
in
this
report
versus
the
original
energy
evolution
report
is
council
does
have
a
business
case
process
that
we
can
bring
forward
at
any
time
a
proposed
investment
that
would
save
us
money.
I
think
what
the
difference
between
that
which
the
energy
evolution
report
does
refer
to
and
councilman
argenpartner
council,
please,
council,
menard,
correct
me.
M
E
Oh
you're
correct
that
that
is
the
intent
and
we've
also
been
talking
for
some
time
now
with
you
know,
hydro,
ottawa
and
bari,
and
talking
about
that
type
of
borrowing
to
get
those
other
projects
done.
This
furthers
council's
direction
to
look
at
that
type
of
a
situation.
So
that's
the
hope
with
this
it
is,
it
is
narrowing
in,
and
the
mr
willis
is
correct
in
the
interpretation
so.
L
Do
I
understand
correctly
chair
through
you
that
the
staff
report
may
list
this
is
hypothetical
10
projects
that
would
be
debt
financed?
That
would
generate
income,
what
it
would
cost
and
then
what
the
return
on
that
investment
would
be.
And
then
you
would
enumerate
a
number
another
set
of
projects
that
we
would
debt
finance,
that
they
would
then
provide
savings
to
the
city,
and
you
would
estimate
those
savings
over
time.
Is
that
basically,
what
your
report
might
include.
E
M
Sheriff
I
could
be
helpful
to
account
to
respond
and
again
not
to
contradict
this
council
monarch,
because
this
is
his
report.
I
think,
as
energy
evolution
rolls
out
and
staff
in
various
departments
bring
forward
initiatives,
they
will
always
bring
the
business
case
forward.
That
addresses
the
points
that
you
refer
to.
You
know
what
is
the
cost?
What
is
the
payback
does
this?
Is
this
a
self-financing
project
or
is
additional
support
required?
That
would
be
our
intent
in
any
project.
M
I
think,
if
I'm
correct
again
in
interpreting
the
council
menards
report,
it
would
give
us
the
the
option
of
then
exploring
debt
to
to
kind
of
close
the
gap
or
extend
the.
What,
with
council,
normally
extend
the
business
planning
time
frame
or
shorten
really
shorten
it.
The
payback
period
would
be
closed
by
a
debt
solution
and
that
would
be
available.
Should
this,
should
the
treasurer's
work
prove
that
this
is
viable
within
the
debt
cap.
L
E
B
B
A
E
I
mean
that
that
is
certainly
the
intent
and
so
in
the
motion
in
that
first
clause,
the
beat
resolve
clause.
It
goes
through
projects
in
energy
evolution
that
either
generate
income
or
savings
for
the
city
that
will
have
to
come
back
and
be
approved.
We
won't
just
be
saying
it's
all
in
that
that
that
comes
back
to
us
and
that's
the
intent
of
the
motion,
and
it
is
specific
around
projects
that
will
generate
a
savings
for
the
city,
so
we'll
have
that
decision
to
make
later.
E
Fedco
will
also
have
a
decision
to
make
later
and
it
just
this
gets
the
ball
rolling
for
that
work
to
be
done,
and
in
some
areas
where
we've
been
kind
of
talking
about
it
doing
it,
it
brings
those
to
the
forefront
such
as
our
building
retrofits.
So
I
think
in
the
motion
it's
addressing
what
your
concern
is
and
the
intent
is
is
outlined
there
in
terms
of
coming
back
to
us
for
approval
of
lists
of
projects.
That
would
come.
So
I
think
I
think,
points
well
taken.
A
And
and
to
that
you
know
if
there's,
if
there's
some
need
to
clarify
intent,
because
obviously
we
govern
by
motion
and
not
by
intent.
If
there's
some
feeling
in
this
that
the
intent
is
not
being
recognized
properly,
you
know
I
can
work
with
council
menard
and
we
can
add
on
just
a
clarification
aspect
to
make
sure
it's.
It's
still
the
same
motion
that
the
concerns
about
intent
are
all
are
fully
covered,
and
I
know
councilman
are
to
be
amenable
to
that,
because
it
doesn't
change
anything,
but
it
would.
B
So
are
you
willing
to
do
that
now
so
that
the
motion
by
the
time
it
rises
to
council
and
gets
reported
out
to
the
public
after
this
meeting?
It's
clear
that
we're
not
looking
at
increasing
the
debt
load,
and
I
want
to
give
you
a
perspective
of
where
I'm
coming
from.
I
supported
your
road
map
on
the
climate
change
initiatives,
because
that's
what
you
explained
it
as
it
was
a
road
map
on
how
we
could
get
to
that
point.
B
If
we
choose
to
go
down
each
of
those
pathways
listed
in
the
report,
that
was
a
very
good
report
because
it
told
us
how
to
do
that
and
it
didn't
have.
It
was
reported
that
it
had
the
87
billion
dollar
ask,
but
there
was
no
motion
there
or
57
sorry.
There
was
no
motion
there
to
approve
57
billion
in
spending,
so
I
just
want
to
try
to
avoid
falling
in
that
same
trap,
because
I
think
it's
a
good
effort
here.
B
I
I
like
what
you're
trying
to
do
if
it's
done
the
way
you're
explaining
it.
So
if
you
could
just
add
a
sentence
at
the
end
of
that,
clarifying
that
what
we're
looking
at
is
coming
back
with
projects
that
will
have
a
good
return
on
them
so
that
we
can
fund
those
quicker
there's
other
things
that
won't
have
a
good
return
that
we
may
want
to
fund,
but
if
we're
voting
on
them
individually,
I
have
no
problem
with
that.
I
just
don't
want
a
blank
check
written
on
our
debt
load
here.
B
A
And
more
clear
yeah
the
points
well
taken.
I
I
think
this
goes
to
fedco,
so
this
will
be
on
the
next
agenda
fedco,
and
what
we'll
do
is
we'll
add
something
there
I
mean,
I
think
I
don't.
I
think,
I'd
like
to
talk
to
councilman
and
staff
and
make
sure
that
we're
putting
the
right
stuff
in
place.
The
fact
that
this
does
go
to
another
committee
before
it
goes
to
council
gives
us
that
opportunity
and
you're
on
fedco
with
me,
so
we'll
be
able
to
take
care
of
that.
B
A
We'll
get
there
all
right.
Thank
you.
That's
then
that's
fine
and
that's
I
mean
I
know
that's
you
know.
Council
weeper
often
takes
the
same
approach,
he'll
vote
against
certain
things
at
planning
committee
and
then
look
into
it
a
bit
further
and
get
get
clarification
and
then
vote
in
favor
at
at
council.
So
it's
perfectly
within
reason
to
take
that
approach.
So
thank
you
to
everyone.
Thank
you
to
the
delegates
and
and
council
menard
so
on
item
three.
Obviously
there's
one
and
two
so
on
on
the
item.
B
A
A
E
Yes,
absolutely
so,
the
the
city
currently
has
its
strategic
climate
lens
that
we're
going
to
be
considering
at
our
at
our
midterm
governance
review
and
in.
In
the
meantime,
we've
been
seeing
environmental
implications
come
forward.
What
we're
trying
to
do
here
is
align
our
investments
with
those
energy
evolution
goals
and
our
climate
change
master
plan.
E
We
have
an
endowment
that
the
city
has
that
is
invested
now
and
there's
been
community
discussion
for
many
years
in
terms
of
looking
at
ways
to
have
this
conversation,
while
the
city
is
working
on
getting
prudent
investor
status,
to
have
less
restrictive
rules
around
investment,
this
is
something
that
would
come
forward
and
look
at
our
investments
in
the
fossil
fuel
industry.
We
are
talking
about
a
relatively
small
portion
of
the
endowment
that
we've
got
invested.
It's
a
it's
a
it's
around
seven
and
eight
million.
E
E
The
bottom
line,
too,
is
I
mean
these
investments
haven't
done
well
for
us
at
all.
Lately,
and-
and
there
is
a
there-
is
a
need
to
start
to
shift.
It
makes
seems
to
make
financial
sense
as
well
as
environmental
sense,
given
the
goals
that
we've
just
set
out,
and
so
I
think
that
sets
it
up
well
for
the
conversation
chair
and
I
can
hand
it
back
back
to
you.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
I
mean
this
wouldn't
be
we
wouldn't
be
only
ones
doing
this.
I
think,
if
you
pay
any
attention
to
the
stock
market,
get
in
the
trading
and
buying
warren
buffett
is
currently
selling
off
shares
of
many
of
these
same
things
quite
rapidly,
all
right
so
we'll
go
to
our
delegation,
angela
keller,
herzog,.
C
C
That
makes
very
little
sense,
and
I
will
of
course
explain
to
you
why
we
think
that,
firstly,
the
city
of
ottawa,
if
the
city
of
ottawa
wants
to
divest
the
endowment
fund
from
fossil
fuel
investment,
all
that
needs
to
be
done
is
an
amendment
to
the
investment
policy
of
the
city
to
this
effect
bingo.
There
is
no
provincial
or
other
regulation
that
prevents
us
from
saying
that
we
will
not
invest
in
something.
C
The
prudent
investor
status
is
not
required
for
this.
That
relates
to
us
investing
in
additional
market
vehicles
and
having
more
freedoms,
so
it
has
nothing
to
do
with
divestment
really.
Secondly,
the
motion
proposes
to
sell
off
fossil
fuel
holdings
over
the
next
five
years.
This
is
not
timely.
The
canadian
energy
sector,
particularly
the
oil
sands
based
industries,
are
in
crisis.
C
C
This
money
should
be
used
to
capitalize
a
climate
capital
corporation
in
a
revolving
fund
that
can
invest
in
local
energy
projects,
include
renewable
energy
investments,
stimulate
our
local
economy
and
create
local
jobs.
The
economic
development
strategy
of
the
city
of
ottawa,
which
currently
does
not
mention
the
word
climate
or
energy
even
once,
should
be
brought
to
align
with
the
benefits
from
steering
towards
a
low-carbon
economy.
E
I'll,
just
just
briefly
understand
your
point
and
you
want
this
to
to
go
further
than
it
does
I
get
that
as
well?
This
is
one
where
we
had
to
work
with
staff
on
and
for
for
some
time
now
to
get
the
ball
rolling,
to
have
the
discussion
to
start
the
process,
and
I
understand
it
may
not
be
perfect
and
appreciate
your
your
view
on
that.
C
I
I
think,
the
if
the
point
is
that
we
want
to
divest
the
endowment
fund
from
fossil
fuels.
That
question
can
be
put
very
directly
and
if
there's
a
vote
on
it,
then
at
least
citizens
can
see
which
counselors
are
in
support
and
which
ones
are
against,
and
and
that
kind
of
clarity
can
also
be
useful,
but
to
be
proposing.
C
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Angela
appreciates
you
coming
here.
I
think
I
personally,
I
think
I
understand
what
councilman
art
is
striving
for,
and
I
think
I
go
back
to
a
month
ago
and
rob
barnes
had
said:
let's
not
perfect,
beat,
let's
not
let
perfect
be
the
enemy
of
the
good
when
it
comes
to
the
energy
evolution
project,
and
I
think
you
know,
there's
no
question
that
a
certain
motion
can
come
forward
and
you
could
find
out
which
counselor
supports
and
which
counselor
doesn't.
A
A
H
So
currently
we're
limited
in
terms
of
the
types
of
investments
we
can
make
and
prudent
investor
gives
us.
The
regulations
give
us
the
authority
to
expand
that
to
a
broader
portfolio
but
based
on
prudent,
and
so
you
need
flexibility
to
manage
prudently.
It
has
to
be
a
balanced
portfolio
and
if,
when
you
have
very
limited
options,
pulling
one
piece
out
impacts
the
entire
portfolio
and
it
has
to
be
a
balanced
approach
and
that's
why
prudent
gives
us
significantly
more
flexibility
to
review
this
as
part
of
our
strategy.
H
So
we
have
to
put
in
the
governance
structures
required
to
do
that.
It
requires
a
committee
of
external
advisors
and
it
also
requires
an
investment
strategy
to
be
developed.
Up
to
now,
we've
been
seeking
from
the
province
changes
to
the
regulation,
because
currently
the
regulations
are
very
onerous.
Toronto
is
the
only
one
who's
implemented.
H
L
Elevate,
the
city
of
ottawa's
investment
abilities
to
prudent
and
venture
status.
The
report
just
basically
says
here
are
some
of
the
barriers
we
are
in
coming
across
to
go
down
this
route
and
what
we're
doing
as
the
motion
says,
actions
taken
to
date
to
address
those
is
basically
a
status
update.
Is
that
correct.
H
H
L
H
L
Okay,
so
you'll
report
back
to
to
fedco
now,
mr
chairmai,
my
question
now
is,
and
I
will
support
clause
1
of
council
menard's
motion.
My
question
about
clause
2
says:
should
council
approve
a
direction
to
implement
prudent
investor
standards
for
the
city
of
ottawa,
blah
blah
blah?
Are
we
not
getting
ahead
of
ourselves?
Should
we
not
reflect
on
part
two
of
the
motion
until
we've
heard
back
from
staff
at
fedco
in
q2?
Should
we
not
first
hear
the
analysis
and
if
it's
decided
that
we
can
do
this,
then
we
entertain
part.
L
E
L
A
E
Okay,
I
can,
I
can
refer
to
that
counselor
brockington
part.
Part
two
is
the:
is
the
intent
the
barrier
to
that
intent,
as
it's
been
described
to
me
from
staff?
Is
that
prudent
invest
investor
status,
and
so
the
intent
of
the
motion
was
always
part
two
to
have
that.
Come
back,
give
us
the
analysis
of
what
this
would
mean
for
us,
what
other
investments
are
out
there
etc.
E
So
part
one
is
really
only
to
enact
part
two.
The
the
piece
that's
important
in
terms
of
our
our
actual
actions
here
around
around
divestment
in
this
case
is
part
two,
and
that
and
that's
why
it's
it's
phrased.
This
way
staff
have
pointed
out.
They
want
prudent
investor
status
before
we
move
there.
That's
why
that's
in
there.
So
it
is
important
that
that
you
know
part
two
move
forward,
which
was
the
original
intent
of
the
discussion,
but.
L
We're
not
going
to
do
anything
until
the
fedco
report
comes
out
at
q2
right,
we're
going
to
receive
that
and
debate
it,
and
that
report
might
have
recommendations
that
could
change
what
you
have
in
part.
Two
of
the
motion
today.
We
might
not
want
to
divest
fossil
fuels
over
the
next
five
years,
for
example,.
E
We
may
have
recommendations
that
do
differentiate
from
what
is
in
the
report,
but
we're
making
it
clear.
We
want
to
see
that
research
done
and
that's
okay
if
it
has
divergent
recommendations,
but
the
the
point
of
this
to
just
say
that
environment
committee
is
going
to
pass
this
piece
around
prude
investor
status
and
not
have
the
intent
go
along
with
it,
wouldn't
make
much
sense
to
me.
E
A
Mean
you
can
almost
you
can
almost
equate
it
to
to
a
holding
provision
in
planning.
You
know,
will
approve
a
planning
file
with
a
holding
provision.
It's
it's
a
condition
essentially
on
it
to
say
that
you
know
this
doesn't
happen
until
that
it's
approved
by
council,
but
this
doesn't
happen
until
this
happens
and
ultimately
too,
if
it
was
just
item
one.
It's
completely
out
of
our
terms
of
reference
for
this
committee.
L
Yeah
item
two
is
again
staffs
evaluating.
They
come
back
with
a
report,
we're
not
giving
the
marching
orders
to
do
anything.
I
I
just
think
that
whatever
comes
back
to
us
in
q2,
we're
probably
going
to
change
the
action
item
from
what's
before
us
in
item
two,
I
think
we're
gonna
say
we're
gonna
reflect
on
whatever
staff
report
and
we're
gonna
say
all
right
now.
With
that
information
on
hand,
we're
gonna
create
a
strategy
going
forward,
so,
but
it
does,
it
doesn't.
A
A
The
scope
of
this
review
will
include
an
assessment
of
the
following:
a
no
new
purchase
of
stocks
or
mutual
funds
with
coal
oil
and
gas
companies,
specifically
excluding
any
new
investments
in
the
200
largest
publicly
traded.
Fossil
fuel
corporations
and
b
sell
off
all
fossil
fuel
holdings
from
these
same
companies
over
the
next
five
years.
L
Yep,
I'm
sorry
to
intervene
again
just
reading
my
notes.
I
hope
this
is
perceived
as
a
friendly
direction
to
staff,
but
in
the
report
back
to
us
at
the
end
of
q2,
could
they
also
have
some
information
in
the
report
that
generally
talks
about
our
overall
investment
strategy?
To
give
us
a
greater
context
of
what
our
object
objectives
are?
Obviously,
it's
to
have
a
return
on
investment,
but
could
that
be
included
in
the
report.
H
A
This
sounds
okay,
so
descent
from
counselor
hubley
and
counselor
deruse.
Otherwise
the
item
is
carried,
so
we
move
to
item
five,
which
is
new,
protect
new
tree
protection,
bylaw,
administrative
updates.
So
just
some
brief
history,
I
know
martha
cope
stake
is
here
with
us,
is
going
to
cue
this
up
as
well.
But
as
members
of
committee
know,
we
approved
the
new
tree
protection
bylaw
about
a
year
ago.
A
Then
the
intention
was
a
dual
implementation
date.
There
would
be
a
staged
implementation
date
that
didn't
occur.
Covid
threw
in
a
wrench
a
bit
to
that
council
mckenny
worked
with
with
staff
to
get
us
back
on
track
for
that
january,
1st
2021
implementation
date,
but
there
was
to
be
kind
of
a
step
in
between
the
two
implementation
dates
where
some
of
the
stuff
would
have
been
addressed.
A
So
we
didn't
have
that.
That's
why
staff
are
back
here
right
now
for
some
of
those
housekeeping
amendments
in
order
to
get
this
up
and
running
and
in
place
for
january
first
2021.
It
is
completely
in
line
with
the
previous
approved
tree
protection
bylaw
from
last
year.
Martha
did
you
want
to
just
queue
up
that
that
report,
the
what
you're
asking
committee
to
approve
today.
O
So
I
did
I
sort
of
added
some
notes
and
I
hope
you'll,
you
know
you
guys
are
okay
with
me,
taking
taking
a
chance
to
sort
of
explain
in
a
little
bit
more
detail
how
the
the
bylaw
applies,
and
what
we're
here
to
do
today.
So
just
want
to
note
that
we're
not
recommending
to
room
today
we're
not
recommending
to
remove
anything
that
was
approved
as
a
part
of
the
tree
protection
bottle
a
year
ago
in
january.
O
What
we're
doing
today
is
staff
is
proposing
additions
to
accommodate
this
industry
size
in
the
inner
urban
area.
So
that's
sort
of
what
we're
focused
on
today,
like
I
said
I'll,
go
into
more
detail
in
a
second
and
then
just
to
go
over
exactly
how
the
bylaws
structured
so
that
we're
all
on
the
same
page
and
and
we
it
it
can
be
kind
of
confusing
because
there's
different
stipulations
for
different
parts
of
the
city.
O
So
I'm
just
going
to
take
a
couple
minutes
or
a
minute
or
so
to
go
over
how
it's
how
it
works.
So,
basically,
the
new
tree
bylaw
functions
fundamentally
in
the
same
way
as
our
old
tree
bylaw
functions.
Sorry,
chris!
I'm
going
to
be
talking
on
this
for
a
little
bit
of
time,
so
we
can
stay
on
this
slide
for
a
while.
O
There
are
regulations
that
the
regulations
that
apply
to
urban
trees
on
private
land
are
based
on
property
size,
so
for
properties
greater
than
a
hectare
in
size
and
for
all
properties
that
are
going
through
site
plan
or
plan
of
subdivision
applications,
regardless
of
property
size,
a
trimer,
a
tree
permits
required
to
remove
trees
that
are
10
centimeters
in
diameter
or
greater
and
in
development
scenarios.
This
is,
which
is
mostly
how
this
is
implemented.
O
It's
implemented
through
the
review
and
approval
of
tree
conservation
reports
for
tree
retention
and
tree
removal
and
landscape
plans
for
tree
planting
on
the
site
in
compensation
for
what
we're
losing.
So
this
is
all
done
by
our
city,
foresters
here,
and
this
applies
urban
wide
in
the
inner
urban
area
and
in
the
suburbs.
O
The
new
bylaw
essentially
makes
no
changes
to
that
part.
We're
keeping
that
intact
as
it
is
because
we
believe
that
it's
working
very
well
so
for
properties,
one
hectare
or
less
in
size,
so
those
sort
of
smaller
residential
properties
in
the
urban
area,
a
permit
is
required
to
remove
distinctive
trees.
So
as
a
result
of
the
motion
on
the
bylaw
in
june,
the
distinctive
trees
will
now
be
30
centimeters
in
diameter
or
greater
in
the
inner
urban
area
that
used
to
be
50
centimeters,
and
that
was
in
place
for
about
11
years.
O
So
this
is
a
big
and
good
move
for
ottawa's
urban
tree
canopy
in
the
outer
urban
area
or
the
suburbs.
The
distinctive
tree
diameter
will
remain
at
50,
centimeters
or
greater
in
diameter,
and
this
part
of
the
bylaws
implemented
through
the
issuance
of
distinctive
tree
permits
for
residents
who
may
want
to
remove
a
tree
in
their
backyard
for
some
reason,
and
also
through
the
infield
development
processes
that
we're
putting
in
plate
have
in
place
and
are
improving
virgin.
O
As
of
january
1st,
by
reviewing
committee
of
adjustment
applications
and
building
permit
applications
and
looking
at
the
tree
impacts
of
those,
and
we
issue
tree
permits
where
necessary,
requiring
treat
and
we
require
tree
protection
where
necessary
and
tree
compensation,
so
the
major
trees.
As
most
of
you
know,
the
major
tree
issue
we've
seen
in
ottawa
over
the
last
many
years
is
a
loss
of
trees.
O
Review
that
we've
been
working
on
for
the
past
few
years
was
really
focused
on
solving
this
main
issue,
so
decreasing
the
distinctive
tree
diameter
within
the
inner
urban
area
staff
saw
as
a
key
component
of
addressing
that
major
tree
loss
that
we've
been
seeing,
and
we
believe
that
this
overall
change
will
result
in
the
protection
of
more
trees
and
infill
development
scenarios.
So
there's
just
my
bringing
us
all
back
up
to
speed.
So,
of
course
those
councilor
moffett
said
it
was
a
fruit.
The
new
tree
protection
bile
was
approved
at
council
last
january.
O
We
were,
it
was
intended
to
be
implemented
on
may
first,
but
that
became
impossible
to
do
because
of
the
pandemic.
So
in
june,
councilor
mckinney
brought
forward
a
motion
to
a
direct
staff
to
implement
the
new
bylaw
as
of
january
1st,
and
to
reduce
that
distinctive
tree
diameter
to
30,
centimeters
and,
of
course,
now
we're
here
to
just
do
these
administrative
updates,
and
on
january
1st,
we
will
bring
the
new
tree
protection
bylaw
into
effect,
which
we
are
all
very
excited
about.
O
So
I'm
going
to
take.
We
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
chris,
so
just
a
quick,
rapid
fire
round
of
some
of
the
big
huge
improvements
that
we
are
making
with
the
nutri
protection
bylaw
just
to
bring
everybody
back
into
a
loop.
I
guess
on
this
after
the
last
couple
of
months,
all
these
months
so
again
reducing
the
distinctive
tree
diameter.
Of
course,
pre-information
will
now
be
submitted
and
considered
through
the
committee
of
adjustment
application
process
and,
as
steve
willis
said
before,
we
have
a
new
infill
forester
in
place.
Who's
been
hired.
O
There
will
be
better
integration
of
tree
information
through
the
building
permit
process,
more
oversight,
better
tree
information
provided
closer
integration
with
building
code
services,
staff,
all
good
things.
The
new
bylaw
also
includes
clear
tree
protection
requirements,
so
this
will
give
staff
more
ability
to
have
oversight
over
tree
protection
and
the
ability
to
fine
based
on
inadequate
tree
protection.
O
And,
of
course,
what
I
think
is
the
most
important
aspect
we've
been
seeing.
We've
talked
about
this
over
sort
of
change
of
attitude
around
trees
and
we've
really
been
seeing
that
there's
been
a
big
change
on
that
front.
We've
had
lots
of
wins
over
the
last
year
that
we
wouldn't
have
had
before
we
started
these
conversations,
and
it's
very
positive
to
see
okay.
So
now
what
we're
here
actually
here
for
today,
chris,
you
can
change
to
the
next
slide
thanks.
O
So
we
have
four
changes
we
need
to
make.
The
first
is
pretty
simple:
we
just
need
to
basically
change
the
definition
of
distinctive
tree
to
decrease
the
size
within
the
inner
urban
area,
from
a
minimum,
50
centimeters
to
30,
centimeters,
dbh
or
greater
as
per
the
cancel
motion,
and
again
this
is
specific.
O
Oh
sorry,
that's
it!
That's
it
for
the
first
one.
That's
the
easy
one.
The
second
one
is
so
following
the
the
change
in
size
for
distinctive
trees,
staff
are
recommending
that
we
amend
the
tree
compensation
requirements
to
reflect
that
smaller
distinctive
tree
size.
So
this
is
specifically
for
trees
in
infill
development,
privately
owned
trees
and
infill
development
scenarios,
so
staff
recommend,
keeping,
as
I
said,
keeping
that
approved
compensation
ratio
for
50,
centimeters
or
greater,
but
and
which
is
three
to
one.
O
So
that's
three
trees
are
planted
for
every
single
tree
removed
and
we're
saying
that
we
should
add
a
second
replacement
ratio,
so
taking
sort
of
a
stepped
approach
for
trees,
30
to
49
centimeters
in
diameter.
So
that
would
be
that
new
ratio
would
be
two
to
one
so
we'd
have
so
two
trees
would
be
planted
for
every
single
tree
permitted
to
be
removed.
So
this
scaled
approach
is
is
a
tree.
O
We
often
get
photographs
like
this
now
and
they're
very
helpful
for
our
forestry
inspectors,
as
they're,
navigating
through
their
initial
review
of
files
and
such,
and
so
we
just
like
to
add
that
that
simple
requirement
to
get
a
photograph-
and
so
that's
in
schedule,
c
of
the
existing
bylaw
and
the
fourth.
The
fourth
thing
is,
is
not
entirely
related
to
the
tree
by
law,
but
it
isn't.
O
O
Basically,
what
happens
is
that
for
an
infill
development
the
fee
is
paid
and
when
some
they
plant
a
tree
on
site,
the
fee
is
refunded
to
them.
So,
given
that
we
have
the
new
sort
of
integrated
tree
compensation
requirements
in
the
tree
protection
bylaw
for
infill
developments,
we
feel
that
the
fee,
the
seven
hundred
dollar
fee,
is
now
redundant.
O
The
new
tree
compensation
requirements
in
conduct,
in
conjunction
with
the
new
infill
for
zoning
infill
zoning
for
soft
landscaping
requirements
are
going
to
help
to
ensure
appropriate
planting
in
a
way
that
we
never
had
before.
We
think
it's
going
to
work
a
lot
better
and
so
we're
recommending
that
effective
january
1st
when
the
new
bylaw
comes
into
effect,
the
planning
fee
by
law
be
amended
to
remove
that
refundable
tree
planting
deposit
and
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
Chris
thanks.
O
So
that's
about
it.
Thank
you
so
much
for
having
me
to
fill
you
in
on
the
administrative
changes
and
just
remind
everybody
what
this
bylaws
all
about,
and
we're
really
looking
forward
to.
Finally
putting
all
this
hard
work
into
play
on
january
1st,
it's
been
quite
a
long
road
and
I
think
everyone
everyone's
ready
to
go
on
this
one
thanks.
A
All
right,
thank
you
very
much.
Martha
appreciates
your
work,
obviously
on
this,
as
I've
noted
multiple
times
in
the
past,
it's
an
important
file
and
something
that
we've
all
been
pushing
for
and
supporting.
So
the
fact
that
we're
right
here
on
the
cusp
of
invitation
is
incredibly
important
and
just
to
that
end.
So
what
we're
dealing
with
today
is
not
a
rehashing
of
the
tree
protection
by
law,
but
dealing
with
the
administrative
updates
that
we
have
here
today.
A
R
Thank
you
very
much
chairman
and
thank
you,
ms
kopstik,
for
a
wonderful
presentation.
Oh
thank
you
christopher.
For
my
one
slide.
I
wanted
to
make
things
very
brief
and
short.
Today
I
wasn't
going
to
call
for
the
slide
quite
yet,
but
it
probably
looks
better
than
I
do
so.
I'm
happy
to
have
it
up
there
and
if
I
could
just
find
now
my
comments
we're
good
to
go.
R
So
thanks
for
the
introduction,
I
am
the
chair
of
the
canada
green
space
protection
coalition
and
I
live
in
ward
4
part
of
canada.
Our
not-for-profit
organization
is
now
approaching
2000
residents
in
canada
north
who
favor
the
protection
and
development
of
urban
open,
green
space
and
by
default
trees.
R
R
First
and
foremost,
dbh
decreased
specific
to
the
inner
urban
areas.
Only
hindsight
is
2020..
The
november
2019
staff
report,
approved
by
council
in
january,
apparently
differentiated
the
dbh
metric
between
inner
and
outer
urban
wards.
Our
volunteers
did
not
contemplate
it.
It
was
not
flagged
in
the
tree.
Action
now
priority
documents
as
a
result,
and
it
wasn't
raised
broadly
in
the
community,
and
so
we
are
here
today
to
speak
to
the
error
of
what
we
see
as
a
two-pronged
standard.
R
The
best
example
I
have
for
you.
I
hope
you
are
all
aware
of
the
singular
beaver
book
project
called
neighbor
woods,
which
uses
a
model
developed
by
dr
andy
kenney
at
the
university
of
toronto
to
create
neighborhood
tree
inventory,
using
train
volunteers,
the
precursor
to
an
urban
forest
management
plan
rob
mccauley.
R
Instead
of
protecting
only
18
of
our
trees,
360
with
a
dbh
greater
than
50,
we
would
actually
protect
1040
trees
or
52
with
a
dvh
of
30
centimeters.
Let
me
say
that
again:
360
trees
or
1040
trees.
That
is
essentially
a
three-fold
increment
in
canada,
north
alone,
probably
representative
in
canada,
south
possibly
riverward,
were
afforded
the
same
protections
as
city
view.
The
gleam
centertown
or
alta
vista
neighborhood
shows
us
what
we
all
know.
The
value
of
decisions
based
on
facts
and
specifics
are
better
than
those
on
generalization.
R
Neighborhood
tree
canopy
inventories
matter.
Now
we
understand
that
a
request
for
neighborhood
tree
canopy
data
and
targets
remains
outstanding
at
this
committee
and
is
being
contemplated
through
the
work
on
the
official
plan
and
we
hope
at
the
urban
forest
working
route
table
the
communities
of
beaver
brook
and
canada.
Lakes
are
master,
planned
around
trees
and
green
space.
R
R
Quite
simply
as
an
oversight
or
decision
taking
body,
do
you
choose
to
make
1
000
individual
efforts
to
protect
1
000
trees,
or
do
you
want
to
protect
those
1
000
trees
with
a
single
policy
and
a
lot
less
activity
in
management?
And,
of
course,
let's
be
honest,
woodland
stands
are
not
comprised
of
only
50
centimeter
trees.
They
are
in
perpetual
renewal
and
many
woodland
stands
are
on
small
hectares
of
property
in
many
neighborhoods
outside
of
ottawa
outside
the
greenbelt
like
beaverbrook
and
others.
Tomorrow
is
also
here
today.
R
The
renovations
and
infills
are
moving
to
update
and
upgrade
these
developments
as
well,
and,
as
you
know,
the
trees
are
often
the
first
to
go.
The
kgpc,
as
well
as
cafes,
would
propose
that
great
work
on
the
tree
by
protection
bylaw
continue.
That's
why
I'm
here,
but
I'm
here,
to
request
that
the
distinctive
tree
status
be
amended
in
all
urban
areas.
From
50
to
50
centimeters
to
30
centimeters,
the
tree
compensation
requirements
be
maintained
at
three
to
one
in
all
urban
areas.
R
Next
steps
staff
are
rolling
forward,
the
integration
of
urban
forest
management
principles
and
policies
in
the
official
plan
and
to
prepare
the
imminent
rollout
of
the
new
bylaw,
and
that
is
well
and
good.
We
are
pleased
with
the
ongoing
development
of
the
urban
urban
forest
working
group.
This
is
a
good
thing
and
I
would
like
to
applaud
the
staff
for
their
efforts
before
I
sign
off.
I
want
to
salute
the
work
of
key
volunteers,
daniel
buckles
and
jennifer
humphries
on
this
file,
as
well
as
a
person.
R
A
A
A
You
so
I
will
just
ask
martha
if
you
could
just
I
mean
we're
here
today
to
talk
about
the
administrative
updates,
we're
not
here
to
reconsider
the
tree
protection
bylaw,
that's
that's
clear.
We
we
approved
that
unanimously.
Last
last
january,
all
of
council,
after
much
consideration
and
much
discussion
throughout
many
stakeholders
and
as
ms
ramsey
alludes
to
the
work
of
cafes
and,
of
course,
all
the
hard-working
volunteers
there.
But
martha.
O
O
O
We
saw
it
as
being
the
key
item
to
being
able
to
protect
more
trees
in
those
infield
development
scenarios
and
that's
why
we
focused
it
here
in
the
earth
here,
I'm
in
the
inner
urban
area
right
in
the
middle
of
the
city,
but
here
to
to
to
solve
that
problem
as
a
starting
point,
and
it
may
be
something
that
we
can
consider
moving
forward.
But
as
a
starting
point,
we've
start
we're
focused
on
the
inner
urban
area
for
that
tree
decrease.
So
I
hope
that
helps
to
clarify
a
little
bit.
A
Yeah,
it
does
certainly,
I
think
we
know
I
mean.
Obviously
we
we
heard
the
challenges,
I
know
the
counselors
in
the
core
of
ottawa.
They
see
it,
they
live
it
every
day
they
walk
by
it.
They
they
see
the
challenge
that
we
had
with
the
previous
bylaw,
and
why
we're
here
today-
and
I
know
the
mayor
too,
was
quite
steadfast
on
his
desire
to
see
this
updated,
bylaw
and
better
protection
of
trees
where
we're
losing
trees,
which
is
within
phil
in
those
urban
wards.
A
A
There
is
nothing
there
really
that
necessitates
the
requirement
for
a
tree
by
law
in
rural
ottawa,
but
there's
no
question
that
what
we're
doing
here
today
is
required,
and
I
think
the
only
people
that
oppose
it
in
the
urban
area
are,
you
know
the
people
that
want
to
cut
down
trees
and
not
pay
for
them.
So
with
that
just
to
go
to
our
members
of
committee
and
catherine
mckinney.
Q
Q
She
didn't
give
up
that
failed
and
because
of
who
she
was,
she
kept
pushing
and
and
had
50
plus
centimeter
diameter
approved
for
a
distinctive
tree,
and
even
with
that,
you
know,
we've
seen
over
the
last
well
eleven
years
and
more,
but
it
is
happening
more
and
more.
The
loss
of
trees
in
in
the
urban
area.
It
really
is
it's
alarming
and
well.
I
agree
that
trees
everywhere
in
the
city
need
to
be
protected.
Q
The
the
alarming
loss
really
is
is
in
our
urban
areas
and
and
we
are
we're
seeing
it
every
day
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
with
staff
martha.
I
thank
the
chair
for
outlining.
You
know
the
you
know
the
fact
that
we
do
lose
trees
in
the
urban
area
as
a
as
a
result
of
infill
development,
but
in
the
suburban
areas.
My
understanding,
then,
is
that
the
loss
of
trees
is
through
plans
of
subdivision
site
plan
and
development
applications.
O
Thanks
so
much
councillor
mckenney,
and
I
like
that
little
factoid
about
the
11-year
anniversary
as
well
so
yeah.
Basically
what
what
we
have
so
most
of
the
development
that
we
see
in
that
suburban
area
ends
up
coming
through
site
plans
and
plans
of
subdivision
and
those
are
obviously
bigger,
planning
act,
applications
and
what
we've
had
in
place
since
2009.
O
The
tree
conservation
report
guidelines
are
actually
included
within
the
tree
bylaws,
so
they're
in
this.
This
new
tree
by
law
as
well
and
the
process
is,
is
a
well
integrated
process
into
the
development
review
system
or
whatever,
and
so
in
order
for
a
an
application
to
be
deemed
complete
and
to
be
circulated
out
to
staff
and
and
counselors,
and
such
it
has
to
have
a
tree
conservation
report
and
a
landscape
plan.
O
So,
of
course,
in
those
scenarios,
trees
are
lost
for
sure,
so
development
and
trees
have
an
inherent
conflict.
So
we
all
have
to
sort
of
recognize
that
and
know
that,
if
we're
moving
forward
with
any
development,
we
are
likely
going
to
see
the
loss
of
trees.
It
would
be
a
very
unique
site
where
there
would
be
no
loss
of
trees,
but
we
do
have
these
processes
in
place
so
that
the
city
can
be
involved
because,
of
course,
before
the
bylaw
went
into
effect
back
in
2009.
O
What
would
happen
is
folks
would
come
in
and
say:
oh
there's
no
trees
on
the
site.
We
could
see
from
aerial
photos
or
from
knowledge
that
there
were
trees
on
the
site
five
days
ago,
but
now
they're
gone,
you
know,
and
now
we
don't
have
that
case.
We
have
an
opportunity
for
our
experts
at
the
city
to
weigh
in
on
what's
happening
on
the
site,
from
an
environmental
perspective
and
from
a
planning
perspective.
O
Those
kinds
of
things
so
so
that's
sort
of
our
process
for
the
suburban
type
development
and
and
that's
most
of
the
development
that
we're
seeing
coming
forward
is
in
the
suburbs
that
kind
of
process,
and
we
feel
it's
a
longer
process.
It's
a
more
detailed
process
and
we
feel
that
we
have
good
oversight
on
what's
happening
there.
But
I
will
also
say
that
that
sort
of,
like
culture
change,
that
we've
been
talking
a
lot
about
of
of
better
valuing
trees
and
better
understanding
why
the
royal
trees
play
in
cities
and
stuff.
O
That
isn't
just
for
infill
development
that
also
spans
over
into
these
other
kinds
of
developments
and
into
the
suburbs,
and
you
know
really
everywhere,
and
I
think
that
we
are
generally
seeing
and
we
will
moving
forward,
because
we
can
continue
to
push
for
this
to
see
more
tree
retention,
more
efforts
for
tree
retention
in
those
bigger
development
scenarios
as
well.
Although
we
do
feel
it's
working
quite
well
now
that
just
to
say
the
culture
change
thing
spans
the
whole
everything
really
yeah.
Q
Q
I
won't
name
them
long
time
ago,
leave
it
in
the
past,
but
came
in
and
raised
several
hectares
of
of
woodland
in
around
the
south
march
highlands
area
and
I'm
sure
councillor
studs
is
well
aware
of
it,
and,
and
we
did
we
just
you
know
it
was.
It
was
just
clear-cut
in
half
a
day
to
the
absolute
alarm
of
certainly
nearby
residents,
but
but
the
city
as
a
whole.
A
B
Yes,
mr
pleasure,
thank
you
very
much
and
martha.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
hard
work
in
for
several
several
years
on
on
this
and
and
on
our
on
our
tree
bylaws.
We
appreciate
it
very
much
just
wanted
to
check,
and
just
if
the
chair
could
indulge
me
for
for
a
moment,
because
not
specifically
with
this
report,
but
just
it
touched
on
the
report,
it's
it's
it's
coming
into
force
on
january
1st.
O
I
guess
that's
for
martha
yeah.
Thank
you
so
much
councilor
clutier
yeah,
that's
a
good
question,
so
I
think
it's
pretty
simple.
Basically
any
applications
that
come
in
before
january
1st,
it
would
be
the
applicants
for
a
tree
permit
that
come
in
before
january
1st.
It
would
be
our
old
rules
that
apply
and
anything
that
comes
in
after
january.
First,
our
new
rules
would
apply,
so
I
know
that
it
could
get
kind
of
complicated
if
you
have
say
like,
like
a
building
permit
application.
That's
spanning
the
two!
If
the.
O
If
the
tree
information
was
submitted
to
forestry
before
january
1st,
then
it
would
be
the
old
like
the
current
requirements
that
apply
and
if
the
tree
information
is
submitted
after
january
1st.
For
for
that
tree
permit,
it
would
be
the
new
ones
that
apply
and,
of
course,
for
the
site
plans
and
plans
that,
like
the
bigger
application
development
applications,
there
is
no
change,
so
it
it
will
apply
the
same
way.
A
A
So
the
standing
committee
on
environment
protection,
water
and
waste
management
recommend
that
council
one
approve
the
amendments
to
the
tree
protection
bylaw,
as
described
in
the
report,
to
approve
the
amendments
to
planning
fees,
by-law
2015-96,
as
described
in
this
report
and
three
delegate,
the
authority
to
the
general
manager,
planning
infrastructure
development
and
the
city
solicitor
to
make
the
amendments
described
in
this
report
and
to
bring
forward
the
bylaws
to
counsel
for
enactment.
Is
that
item
carried
all
right?
A
A
A
Do
the
that
same
committee,
environment
protection,
water
and
waste
management
suspend
the
rules
procedure
pursuant
to
subsection
89.3
of
the
procedure
by
law
being
bylaw
2019-8
to
permit
the
introduction
of
the
following
motion,
given
the
requirement
to
submit
comments
to
the
ministry
of
environment
conservation
and
parks
by
december
3rd
2020,
which
require
this
matter
to
be
considered
by
council
at
its
next
meeting
on
november
25th
2020..
Can
we
wave
the
rules.
E
Yes,
thank
you
chair.
I've
got
to
hear
separately
easier
for
me
here
so,
whereas
the
city
of
ottawa
is
required
under
regulation,
101.94,
recycling
and
composting
of
municipal
waste
to
establish,
operate
and
maintain
a
blue
box
waste
management
system
with
the
materials
to
be
managed
identified
in
schedule,
1
blue
box
waste
of
the
regulation
and
whereas
the
city
of
ottawa
currently
provides
residents
with
these
recycling
services
through
its
dual
stream:
blue
box,
glass,
metal
plastics
and
black
box
cardboard
and
fibers
programs.
E
E
E
Whereas
after
extensive
consultation
with
stakeholders,
the
ministry
issued
the
draft
regulations
to
make
producers
responsible
for
operating
blue
box
programs
on
october
19
2020.
With
the
comment
period
ending
on
december
3rd,
2020
and
whereas
city
staff
have
reviewed
the
draft
regulations
and
are
preparing
briefings
with
members
of
council
over
the
coming
weeks,
including
anticipated
impacts
to
ottawa
residents
end
of
the
city's
operations
and
what
is
known
and
unknown
at
this
point.
With
the
aim
of
answering
any
questions.
E
Council
may
have,
as
well
as
consolidating
a
list
of
comments
and
our
outstanding
questions
for
both
from
both
council
and
city
staff.
As
a
subject
matter.
Experts
and
whereas
the
time
between
the
release
of
the
draft
regulations
and
the
due
date
for
comments
will
not
allow
city
staff
adequate
time
to
repair
and
submit
draft
comments
for
committee
and
council
approval
before
submitting
to
the
province
by
their
deadline.
E
Therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
council
delegate
authority
to
the
general
manager
of
public
works
and
environmental
services
to
work
with
the
solid
waste
master
plan.
Council
sponsors
group
to
prepare
and
finalize
comments
on
the
draft
blue
box
regulations
on
behalf
of
the
city
of
ottawa
and
be
further
resolved.
That
city
staff
be
directed
to
provide
council
with
a
copy
of
the
comments
submitted
to
the
province
and
provide
an
update
to
committee
and
council
to
highlight
any
notable
changes
between
the
draft
regulations
and
final
regulations
once
they
are
registered
in
late
2020
or
early
2021..
A
All
right,
thank
you
for
that.
So,
as
you
see
in
the
motion
it
it,
it
asks
direct
staff
to
work
with
the
sponsors
group
that
is
myself
as
chair
sean
menard,
as
vice
chair,
as
well
as
regional
representatives
on
council
council,
real
shantiri
and
councillor
judas
they've
been
working
with
us
on
the
on
the
software's
master
plan
development
and
in
that
in
that
sponsors
group.
So
this
would
bring
us
back
to
to
that
group.
I
don't
know
if
we
have.
A
A
I
think
ottawa
is
in
a
pretty
good
spot
when
it
comes
to
how
we
manage
our
blue
box
program,
and
we
expect
that
what
happens
across
the
province
won't
be
overly
dissimilar
to
how
we
operate
ours
and
what
it
comes
down
to
is
how
how
it's
paid
for
and
who's
collecting
and
how
that's
going
to
work.
There
are
still
some
questions
that
remain
unanswered
and
nicole
has
sort
of
that
broken
down
and
can
provide
those
comments
and
what
we
know.
G
G
What
we
still
don't
know
about
the
transition,
as
well
as
a
high
level
overview
of
the
key
considerations
and
key
decisions
that
council
will
have
to
be
making
over
the
coming
months,
as
well
as
an
overview
of
the
work
that
staff
is
currently
undertaking
to
help
prepare
council
to
make
these
key
decisions
and,
as
the
motion
had
highlighted,
of
course,
the
feedback
from
these
briefing
sessions.
The
feedback
we
receive
from
members
of
council
will
make
sure
incorporated
in
the
city's
comments
that
will
be
provided
back
to
the
ministry.
A
All
right,
thank
you
so
much
nicole
for
your
for
your
work
on
this.
I
know
it's
been
a
long.
You
know,
just
in
addition
to
everything
the
province
is
doing
what
we
have
to
respond
to,
and
development
of
our
solids
master
plan.
I
know
it's
been
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
work
and
with
your
group,
so
I
see
no
questions
for
for
you.
So
on
the
motion.
Can
we
approve
that
motion
approved
all
right?
A
So
that
was
officially
our
last
item.
Item
seven.
In
camera
items
there
are
none
notices
of
motion
for
consideration
subsequent
meeting.
I
don't
believe
I
received
any
notice
of
motion,
so
I
have
none
so
no
inquiries,
none
other
business,
none
adjournments
carried
our
next
meeting
is
tuesday
december
15th.
Just
of
note,
we
will
likely
only
have
one
item
at
that
committee.
It's
likely
to
be
the
update
on
the
greenhouse
gas
emissions
which
we
promised
annually.
A
I
think
it's
important
to
hold
that
meeting
to
do
that
update,
because
that
is
exactly
what
we
committed
to
doing
to
our
to
our
residents.
So
we'll
have
that
meeting
and
we'll
go
from
there.
There
will
be
a
climate
change
master
plan
update
as
well,
subsequent
to
that,
but
it'll
likely
be
in
february.