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Standing Committee on Environmental Protection, Water and Waste Management meeting - June 18, 2019 - Audio Stream
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A
Jean
coochie
just
said
out
with
DeRoos
in
with
King,
may
be
a
future
mayoral
race.
Have
you
good
that'd,
be
a
good
slogan,
so
welcome
to
the
third
Standing
Committee
on
Environment,
Protection,
water
and
waste
management's,
my
name
is
Scott
Moffitt's
and
I
will
be
your
chair
for
this
morning's
proceedings.
In
case
you
were
unaware,
my
name's
right
there
sheriff
izybelle
here
it
is
I.
A
B
A
That's
a
rule:
I
don't
want
to
make
exceptions,
even
though
it's
for
Olsen
I
just
want
to
be
clear
on
that.
So
people
don't
think
I'm
cherry-picking
when
it
comes
to
what
I
allow
cheering
for,
because
a
lot
of
times
to
be
like
always
the
only
the
only
carry
they
don't
cheer
against
you,
no
no
I
allowed
it
all.
It
would
just
we'd,
be
here
forever.
A
A
A
The
cut
off
button
works
like
that
yeah
there
you
go,
he
learned
I
have
no
problem
doing
that
so
welcome.
This
is
our
third
meeting
of
the
term.
We
had
to
cancel
our
May
meeting,
unfortunately,
but
we
have
two
meetings
back
to
back
this
month,
so
just
water
should
mention
councillor
hubely
and
councillor
de
Roos
sent
their
regrets
for
this
morning's
meeting.
Declarations
of
interest
see
none
confirmation
minutes
for
our
meeting
from
Tuesday
April
16th
those
carried
you
can't
carry
those
because
you
were
out
there.
A
You
weren't
officially
a
part
of
us,
but
now
we've
sucked
you
in
welcome
to
the
dockside.
What
oh
she's
talking
amongst
ourselves.
One
meeting
going
on
here:
Catherine
one
meeting:
do
you
want
to
talk
to
Riley?
You
can
talk
to
him
after
the
meeting
or
you
can
just
leave.
I'll
have
quorum
without
you,
so
be
gone.
I
do
want
to
do
want
to
highlight
first,
oh,
this
is
full.
Am
I
okay
I'm,
always
fine
I
get
a
lot
of
sleep,
so
I
do
want
to
I.
A
Do
want
to
highlight
that
we
have
these
great
water
bottles
here.
I,
drink
tap
water,
so
at
the
at
the
doors,
open,
Ottawa
I,
believe
Tammy
is
here.
We
handed
in
a
number
of
these
at
Lemieux
island
at
the
mule
of
EU
Island
plant
and
as
well
as
the
we
have
pins
as
well.
The
I
drink,
tap
water
pins.
So,
of
course,
as
we
always
indicate
here,
we
have
the
best
drinking
water
in
the
world
which
will
feed
in
to
an
agenda
item
this
morning.
A
A
Alright,
so
item
number
one
status,
update,
Standing
Committee
on
Environment,
Protection,
water
and
waste
management
acquires
emotions
for
the
period
ending
June
7th
2019.
That
item
received.
Thank
you.
Item
number
2
is
the
Eastern
subwatersheds
stormwater
management,
retrofit
study.
We
do
have
a
presentation
on
that
one.
A
A
So
item
number
three
like
we
have
presentation
on
that
to
you
with
my-
was
taken
a
2018
2020
to
City
of
Ottawa
energy
conservation
and
demand
management
plan,
so
hold
that
an
item
number
four
is
a
councilors
item:
single-use
plastic
bottles
at
city
facilities.
That
was
a
originally
inquiry
which
came
to
the
April
16th
meeting,
but
is
now
on
the
agenda
and
I
know.
Councillor
McKinney
has
a
motion
to
deal
with
that,
and
we
also
have
speakers
on
item,
so
we
will
go
back
to
well.
We
have
another
item
G.
A
If
you
want
to
go
right
now,
yeah.
We
have
another
item
to
just
in
follow-up
to
our
April
meeting
about
the
climate
change
sponsor
group.
So
Wow,
it's
move
by
Councilman
Eric,
but
I'll
just
get
right
to
it.
Instead,
no,
it's!
Okay!
It's
just
it's
just
really!
It's
just
adding
the
members!
So
it's
a
so
pretend
I'm
like
super
tall
right
now.
So
therefore
be
it
resolved
that
Standing
Committee
on
Environmental,
Protection
and
water
and
waste
management
recommend
Council
approved
the
following
membership
for
the
council,
climate
change,
sponsors
group,
councillor,
Scott
Moffitt's.
A
That's
me
a
chair
of
actually
not
me
because
I'm
not
moving
it
as
Sean.
That's
moving
it!
Sorry,
chair
of
the
Standing
Committee
on
Environment,
special
water
and
waste
management,
as
the
representative
for
the
Stan
Canadian
Environmental
Protection
water,
and
which
Management,
Council
or
dude
us
as
the
representative
for
Planning
Committee,.
A
I
want
to
make
sure
that
before
we
approve
the
addition
that
we
all
know
what
exactly
we're
approving
councillor
Matthew
flurry
as
a
representative
for
Transportation
Committee
councillor
genocides
as
a
representative
for
Transit
Commission
councillor,
Teresa
Kavanagh,
is
represented
for
the
Ottawa
Board
of
Health
and
councillor
Sean
Bernard,
as
the
counselor
liaison
ask
for
the
emotion
so
I
prove
that
we
add
the
item
on
the
agenda:
okay
and
then
on
the
motion.
Any
questions
about
the
membership.
A
So
we
a
question
from
Council
Brockton.
How
do
we?
We
circulated
social?
The
clerk's
office
circulated
interest,
so
the
motion
itself
did
prescribe
councillor
Menard
as
a
member,
and
then
we
circulated
the
interest
for
the
other
committees
and
a
number
of
counselors
brought
forward
their
interests
for
tea
committee,
and
we
worked
that
so
on
that
on
that
motion.
B
A
D
Jemma
Fett,
my
name
is
Lohan
Julia
I
am
the
water
resource,
engineer
and
I
work
for
the
stormwater
operation
unit
in
Public,
Works
and
Environmental
Services
at
the
table
with
me
today
is
Chris
Rogers
program
manager
for
the
infrastructure
Planning
Unit
in
the
planning
department.
I
am
now
going
to
give
a
five
minute
presentation
on
the
eastern
seaboard.
Stormwater
management,
retrofit
study.
D
The
eastern
subwatersheds
stormwater
management
retrofit
study
is
one
of
the
17
project
that
comprised
the
Ottawa
River
action
plan
or
app
adopted
by
council
in
2010
all
identified
that
the
impacts
of
uncontrolled
stormwater
runoff
must
be
addressed.
Key
objectives
of
all
app
are
to
reduce
beach
closures
and
maintain
a
healthy
aquatic
ecosystem.
A
similar
retrofit
study
was
completed
for
the
Pine
Crest
Creek
Westborough
sub-watersheds
and
endorsed
by
Council
in
2011.
D
The
study
area
covers
a
total
of
approximately
15,000
hectares,
including
the
following,
so
watersheds
Voyager
Creek,
bilberry,
Creek,
Taylor
Creek
and
the
urban
tributaries
of
greens.
Creek
most
of
the
area
was
developed
prior
to
stormwater
management
requirements,
meaning
that
very
little
or
no
storm
water
management
control
is
provided
within
the
study
area.
D
In
order
to
mitigate
the
impact
of
uncontrolled
development,
a
stormwater
management
retrofit
plan
was
developed.
The
retrofit
plan
consists
of
adding
measures
into
established
older
neighborhoods
that
were
built
without
the
infrastructure
to
properly
manage
the
water.
Retrofit
measures
are
designed
to
capture
the
runoff
filtrate.
It
infiltrated
and/or,
slowly,
release
it
to
the
receiving
system.
D
Retrofit
measures
are
typically
classified
in
three
categories,
depending
on
their
location.
The
first
line
of
protection
is
what
we
call
lot
level
measures
which
are
small
scale
measures
such
as
rain
gardens,
permeable,
pavers
or
downspout
redirect
those
measures
are
located
at
the
source
of
the
runoff
or
at
the
lot
level.
D
The
second
type
of
measures
is
called
conveyance
measures.
Those
measures
are
implemented
where
the
water
is
conveyed
between
the
lot
and
the
outlet,
usually
along
the
municipal
rate
of
way.
Examples
of
convenience
measures
are
by
retention,
infiltration,
trenches
and
grass
wells.
The
third
type
of
retrofit
measures
is
called
end
of
pipe
measures.
There
are
larger
scale
facilities
that
receive
the
runoff
collected
by
the
conveyance
system.
They're
located
just
upstream
of
the
outlet
to
the
receiver
example
that
a
vendor
pipe
measures
are
typically
wet
ponds,
infiltration,
galleries
and
or
oil
grid
separators.
D
The
preferred
retrofit
scenario
to
the
eastern
sea
water
sheds
is
based
on
a
50-year
horizon
and
includes
the
implementation
of
lot
level
measures
on
30%
of
private
and
public
properties
and
implementation
of
conveyance
measures
on
50%
of
public
right
of
ways.
It
also
includes
a
number
of
stream
restoration
measures.
D
The
proposed
retrofit
plan
is
intended
to
provide
directions
to
achieve
a
long
term
vision.
That
said,
the
initial
focus
will
be
on
moving
forward
in
five
years
increments.
To
do
so,
we
have
developed
an
initial
five-year
implementation
plan
that
includes
the
remediation,
our
15
priority
erosion
sites,
the
promotion
of
lot
level
measures
and
a
number
of
investigations
to
track
the
source
of
e.coli.
The
total
cost
estimate
for
the
the
initial
five-year
plan
is
four
point:
twenty
three
million
dollars
and
we
expect
to
use
existing
budget
authority
existing
available
for
this
implementation
once
implemented.
D
D
From
a
consultation
point
of
view
we
reached
out
to
the
public.
At
three
occasions
we
presented
the
preliminary
results
at
a
water
roundtable
event
in
June
2014
and
presented
the
results,
a
burst
of
the
study
during
to
online
information
sessions
in
2014
and
2018,
we
establish
direct
communication
with
community
associations
in
the
study
area
and
our
records
shows
that
there's
been
over
1,300
views
on
the
study's
web
page.
Although
minimal
feedback
was
received.
D
Following
council
approval,
a
notice
of
completion
will
be
posted
for
30
day
review
period,
according
through
the
Ontario
class
municipal
class
Year
process.
We
will
then
begin
the
implementation
of
the
initial
five-year
plan,
and
we
expect
to
report
back
to
committee
by
2024
to
provide
a
status
update.
Thank
you
for
your
attention.
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
presentation
and
it
was
important
to
highlight
this
year
today.
I
know
that
through
the
Auto
River
action
plan,
we
get
a
lot
of
focus
on
the
combined
sewer
sewer
tunnel,
but
there's
obviously
a
lot
of
other
projects
as
a
part
of
that
act.
Plan
that
help
us
achieve
the
goals
set
out
by
Council
many
years
ago,
especially
when
you're
talking
about
feature
island
and
some
of
the
challenges
we
have
there
every
summer.
Any
questions
yes
counselor
brockington.
E
Thank
You
mr.
chair,
and
thank
you
for
the
presentation
with
your
indulgence.
My
question
is
somewhat
related,
but
but
not
exact
to
the
report,
and
that
is
with
respect
to
the
creeks
in
my
ward
that
actually
do
not
flow
into
the
Ottawa
River
but
flow
into
the
Rideau
River.
The
sawmill
creek,
there's
uplands
Creek,
there's
three
stormwater
ponds,
sort
of
in
the
south
end
of
River
word:
the
sawmill
creek,
which
we
now
call
the
windy,
Stewart
ponds,
the
quintero
river
would
stormwater
ponds,
which
is
right
beside
the
river
and
there's
a
little
one
by
Hackett.
E
D
Chair
at
Moffitt,
an
in
spirit
to
that
question,
we
I'll
provide
two
to
side
of
the
answer.
First,
we've
completed
a
retrofit
study
for
the
eastern
subwatersheds
area
and
as
well
for
the
Pine
Crest
Creek
area.
Moving
forward.
We
expect
to
complete
a
citywide
retrofit
study
for
the
remaining
of
the
urban
core,
the
city
and,
as
part
of
this
exercise,
we
are
going
to
monitor
the
water
quality
in
the
creek,
assess
the
erosion
and
and
provide
the
recommendation
to
in
the
same
nature
of
what
was
done
for
the
eastern
serve
water
shed
study.
D
The
other
side
is
the
performance
of
the
each
individual
stormwater
management
facility.
The
city
is
monitoring
every
facility
that
we
own
and
we
are
maintaining
it
monitoring
operating
it
and
in
case
of
deficiency
we
have
a
team.
We
have
staff
or
going
back
and
trying
to
retrofit
these
infrastructure
to
ensure
they
are
meeting
their
objectives.
E
D
General
fit
and
in
response
to
that
question
we
monitor
each
pond
to
a
different
level.
Sometimes
we
only
monitor
the
amount
of
sediments
in
the
pond.
Sometimes
we
do
more
extensive
monitoring
in
ships
of
water
quality
when
there's
a
need
and
we
will
take
measures
to
to
empty
those
sediments
as
required.
F
Very
much
chair
thanks
for
the
presentation,
looks
good
to
me.
I
just
there's
one
question
around
lot
level
measures
that
I
had
for
you
I
think
that's
important.
We
says
we're
going
to
encourage
private
homeowners
or
renters
to
increase
their
lot
level,
measures
which
is
sort
of
the
first
phase
that
we
can
tackle.
F
D
Chair
in
response
to
that
question
in
the
in
the
staff
report,
we've
included
a
table
with
the
detail
or
I
would
say
a
high-level
approach
of
what
we
will
be
doing
moving
forward
in
order
to
promote
a
lot.
The
implementation
of
lot
level
measures
and
the
item
two
on
this
table
indicates
that
we
will
complete
demographic
analysis,
social
marketing,
market
research
and
the
development
of
comments.
Princip
outreach
program
to
support
implementation
of
lot
level
control
in
terms
of
incentive.
D
We
do
recognize
that
this
is
an
important
aspect
that,
in
moving
forward
there's
a
good
chance
that
we
will
have.
We
will
need
to
put
a
program
incentive
program.
We
are
not
just
not
there
yet.
The
recommendations
are
from.
The
report
are
a
very
high
level,
but
based
on
experience
from
other
municipalities
in
Ontario,
it
seems
like
incentive
program,
might
be
very
useful
in
trying
to
promote
those
a
lot
level
matters.
Yeah.
F
This
would
be
helpful,
so
I
think
as
part
of
maybe
the
climate
changed
emergency
sponsors
group.
We
can
raise
that
there
as
well,
because
I
think
these
are.
These
are
really
important
things
to
be
doing
that
are
just
very
simple
and
low
cost
for
the
municipality
that
has
returns
for
for
our
for
the
city
and
homeowner.
So,
thanks
for
the
report.
B
A
B
A
Right
so
that
we
approve
the
preferred
Eastern
still
watch
that
storm
water
management
retrofit
plan,
as
described
herein
and
list
as
document
eight,
and
to
approve
the
filing
of
the
Eastern
subwatersheds
stormwater
management.
Retrofit
study
for
30-day
public
review
period
in
accordance
with
Ontario
environmental
assessment,
Act.
B
A
G
Good
morning,
chair
mojo
mr.
dizzy
da
good
morning,
members
of
the
committee
I'm
here,
presenting
today
on
the
city's
new
plan,
the
next
five-year
plan,
as
well
as
a
report
on
our
our
accomplishments
over
the
last
five
years
with
me,
is
Blake
Stratton,
who
is
one
of
the
small
team
working
in
our
in
our
beam
group
on
energy
projects.
A
lot
of
the
work
that
you'll
hear
today
was
was
largely
done
through
the
beam
group.
G
As
an
overall
comment,
I
can
tell
you
that
the
2014
plan
had
a
very
much
more
pronounced
focus
on
saving
energy
costs
and,
less
so
on
greenhouse
gas
emissions
and
initiatives
to
reduce
that
bear
in
mind.
This
was
in
the
context
of
energy
management
and
provincial
directions.
However,
for
the
new
plan,
what
we're
proposing
for
the
coming
five
years,
we
have
attempted
to
strike
a
better
balance
between
energy
reductions
and
greenhouse
gas
emission
reductions
as
well,
so
that
it's
a
little
bit
more
robust
on
both
sides
of
that
and
so.
G
The
report
that
you
have
before
you-
and
that
is
included
on
the
slides
reports
out
that
over
the
last
five
years
we
have
reduced
the
city's
total
energy
use
by
five
point.
Eight
percent
I
can
say
just
from
recent
recalculations
of
this
number
that
we're
actually
exceeding
that
we
are
closer
to
the
six
point:
seven
percent
reduction
with
electricity
coming
in
at
seven
point:
two
percent
reduction
and
gas.
At
six
point
three,
we
will
be
revising
the
report
that
we
post
on
the
city
website
for
provincial
purposes,
to
reflect
this.
This
accomplishment.
G
Bear
in
mind
that
the
reductions
that
were
achieved
over
the
last
five
years
were
in
the
context
of
a
city
that
is
growing
and
even
though
our
energy
reductions
have
have
declined,
we
have
added
some
fairly
large
energy
intensive
facilities
to
the
city's
inventory
in
that
time,
places
like
the
rich,
rich
craft,
recreation,
complex,
mental
bar
Haven,
Francoise
Dupree,
the
new
Auto,
Art,
Gallery
and
so
on,
and
so
the
accomplishment
is
in
spite
of
those
increased
energy
demands
for
new
facilities.
We
have
nonetheless
been
able
to
accomplish
some
reductions
through
energy
management
initiatives.
G
We
have
worked
very
closely
with
in
vari,
which
is
part
of
our
hydro
Ottawa,
as
our
partner.
They
have
undertaken
just
under
a
hundred
projects
on
our
behalf
as
part
of
a
Master
Agreement
that
we
have.
That
goes
well
beyond
just
the
street
lighting
conversion
program
that
you
may
be
aware
of,
and
very
undertaking
into
building
retrofits
building
improvements
to
achieve
these.
These
savings
last
term
of
council
is
part
of
your
strategic
term
of
council
plan.
You
had
approved
1
million
million
dollars
per
year
as
part
of
the
term
of
council
strategic
plan.
G
G
G
G
Excuse
me:
a
centralized
control
system
for
environmental
controls,
so
systems
that
centrally
will
control
things
like
HVAC
lighting
and
and
key
operating
systems
to
allow
the
optimization
of
energy
the
platform
currently
and-
and
this
is
a
essentially
a
baked
at
home
type
system
that
has
taken
what
at
amalgamation
and
then
from
our
past,
took
35
different
vendors,
15
different
control
companies
and
put
them
all
on
one
platform.
We
currently
have
a
hundred
and
twenty
two
sites
on
this
platform
with
plans
to
add
more
as
part
of
our
new
plan.
G
A
new
initiative
during
this
term
was
the
reduction
of
water
for
water
use
from
splash
pads.
The
city
invested
fifty
thousand
to
realize
a
hundred
and
forty
seven
thousand
annual
water
savings
through
retrofitting
of
our
splash
pads,
cut
down
water
use
by
thirty
seven
thousand
cubic
meters,
and
then
of
course,
energy
evolution
has
been
a
key
piece
of
not
only
the
city's
work
in
managing
energy,
primarily
led
by
our
Planning
Group,
but
it
has
been
able
to
harness
up
to
50
community
groups.
G
A
hundred
different
individuals
in
terms
of
community
community
action
to
reduce
overall
energy
city
is
participated
in
photovoltaic
cysts
solar
systems.
We
now
have
them
on
twelve
of
our
larger
buildings
that
is
now
producing
two
thousand
five
hundred
kilowatts
of
clean
hydro
into
the
provincial
grid.
G
What
you
see
here
is
perhaps
a
reflection
that
in
2014
we
were
not
very
good
at
predicting
targets
over
a
five-year
period.
As
you
will
see,
we
in
terms
of
electricity,
we
achieved
twenty
fold.
Our
original
target
in
terms
of
reducing
electrical
electrical
needs,
natural
gas
and
water
also
were
successfully
over
achieved
their
targets
in
terms
of
reductions
in
use.
G
The
next
slide
that
you
see
is
any
energy
performance
index.
This
this
chart
shows
you
the
results
of
monitoring
energy
performance
at
336
of
the
city's
buildings,
essentially
any
building
over
a
hundred
square
meters,
a
thousand
square
square
feet,
so
anything
from
a
small
field
house
up
to
large
complexes.
And
what
this
shows
is
that,
overall,
under
this
energy
performance
index,
we
have
reduced
our
estimated
kilowatts
usage
significantly
over
those
years
from
380
to
358.
G
This
is
the
first
slide
that
addresses
electricity
and
gas
and
our
recommendation
to
you
to
increase
the
payback
on
energy
projects
from
what
was
approved
in
2014,
which
was
five
point
five
years,
with
the
real
focus
on
electrical
savings
and
reducing
our
electricity
bills
to
an
eight-year
payback
period.
And
what
this
chart
shows
is
that
our
total
electric
electricity
costs
are,
you
is
quite
a
bit
higher
than
then
our
gas
costs.
G
However,
in
terms
of
greenhouse
gases
directly
produced
by
the
city,
the
bulk
of
what
we're
producing
is
through
our
use
of
gas,
not
our
use
of
electricity,
and
what
this
really
means
is
that
we
need
to
shift
away
from
simply
doing
electrical
retrofits
and
some
of
the
easy
projects
in
the
earlier
years
or
easier
projects
was
conversion
to
LED
lighting.
And
we
did
a
lot
of
those
but
doing
some
of
the
more
expensive
projects
that
take
a
little
bit
longer
to
recover.
G
Things
like
building
control
systems
and
retrofitting
buildings
are
more
expensive,
but
have
a
more
direct
impact
on
reducing
greenhouse
gases.
And
so
what
we're
recommending
is
that
for
the
next
five
years,
we
increase
the
the
payback
period
from
five
five
point
five
years
to
eight
years,
and
that
doesn't
mean
that
all
our
projects
will
be
eight
years,
that
this
is
a
blended
basket
of
projects,
some
that
take
one
or
two
years,
some
that
could
take
ten
or
twelve
years
or
even
beyond,
but
that
on
average
we
look
at
at
an
eight-year
period.
G
So
just
a
simple
demonstration
of
going
from
electricity
cost
savings
to
GHG
reductions.
We
think
this
is
more
in
line
with
where
council
is
going
with
its
initiatives
and
with
the
the
climate
change
initiatives,
energy
evolutions,
and
we
also
think
it's
critical
to
start
heading
in
this
direction.
If
we
are
going
to
meet
the
goals
that
council
is
set
for
itself
in
terms
of
greenhouse
gases,.
G
G
Now,
we're
also
looking
at
in
some
cases
where
we
have
gas
boilers
moving
to
electric
boilers
in
Class
A
buildings,
because
now,
with
the
rate
structure
of
buildings
and
the
city
only
has
a
few
of
these
but
Class
A
buildings.
At
some
periods,
it's
actually
cheaper
to
switch
to
electricity
for
those
periods
of
time.
So
we
have
some
plans
to
do
that.
G
G
Look
at
the
projects
that
we're
undertaking,
and
so
we
have
assembled
a
group
of
internal
partners
to
develop
some
some
priority
lists
for
the
projects
that
we'll
be
doing
not
just
for
2019.
Some
of
those
projects
have
already
started,
but
also
for
the
next
four
years,
based
on
the
twelve
million
dollars.
G
That
council
was
approved
and
also
based
on
the
likelihood
that,
like
in
the
previous
term,
we
will
qualify,
we
will
certainly
apply
and
will
likely
qualify
for
federal,
provincial
FCM,
a
variety
of
possible
sources
for
energy,
retrofits
and
GHG
projects
that
that
could
benefit
the
city.
So
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
If
you
have
questions
all.
A
Right,
thank
you
and
just
I
know
in
vari.
You
mentioned
in
very
just
for
those
who
may
not
know
in
various
formally
known
as
energy
Ottawa,
so
they
are
part
of
our
Ottawa,
which
is
a
wholly
owned
subsidiary
of
the
City
of
Ottawa.
So
we
we
fully,
we
fully
owned
and
very
and
we've
worked
with
them
previously
on
the
LED
conversions
across
the
city
and
I
do
believe,
there's
more
opportunity
to
work
with
them
on
some
of
these
building
retrofits.
A
Obviously
we
can
do
some
in-house,
but
possibly
work
with
them
to
coordinate
some
more
advancing
some
more
works
going
forward.
You
mentioned
that
as
well.
Just
before
we
get
to
questions
the
splash
pad
for
reduction.
That
are
we
looking
at
that
further
and
only
in
the
City
of
Ottawa
we
have
117
splash
pads
yeah,
it's
it's
quite
significant
and
oddly
enough,
splash
pads
are
somewhat
environmentally
unfriendly,
whereas
other
cities
have
like
Syracuse,
which
greatest
Syracuse
area
is
about.
A
G
We
would
like
to
do
another
series.
This
was
a
pilot
just
to
see
how
well
it
would
strike
a
balance
between
saving
water
and
still
being
a
fun
piece
of
equipment
in
parks,
and
the
modifications
that
were
made
did
not
seem
to
to
impact
in
any
way
the
play
value
of
these.
So
yes,
the
the
opportunity
and
the
return
on
investment
is
I,
think
threefold
in
terms
of
the
initial
capital
outlay
versus
the
the
water
savings,
and
so
yes,
we
are
looking
to
expand
that.
A
That's
good
because
I
mean
I
think
obviously
lennick,
that
a
lot
of
our
residency
benefit
in
those
splash
pads
we'd
hate
to
get
to
a
situation
where
we
just
organize
staff
to
throw
water
balloons
at
people
to
save
water.
That's
an
option,
but
anyway,
so
so
questions
everyone
pretty
much
all
right,
I'll
just
pick
and
choose
who
I
want
to
coach
you
first
councillor,
cliche.
B
G
Some
of
our
very
large
splash
has
that
that
are
very
busy,
probably
have
comparable
water
use,
I'm
thinking
of
some,
whether
the
larger
district
splash
pads,
certainly
the
smaller
ones
that
are
the
nice
thing,
is
that
the
water
is
only
activated
when
it's
in
when
somebody
wants
to
use
it,
and
so
by
and
large
yes,
but
there
are
some
exceptions
where
the
larger
more
district
base
that
are
very
busy
and
use
a
lot
relatively
more
water,
probably
get
into
a
comparable
zone.
Okay,.
G
B
Just
too
high
okay,
thank
you
and
messy
profit
is
not
a
CEO.
The
in
2014,
the
expected
payback
was
five
point
five
years
and
I
recognized
that
they
were
simpler
projects,
the
low-hanging
fruit
that
we
might
call
it,
but
that
we
overachieved
on
that
on
those
on
that
payback.
Could
you
tell
us
what
the
payback
actually
was?
The
payback
period.
G
G
G
You
know
whether
it
was
paid
back
through
savings
because
then
you're
down
to
analyzing
a
particular
project,
the
energy
used
before
and
the
energy
use.
After
for
that
specific
location
or
piece
of
a
quote,
we
have
not
done
that
level
of
analysis,
so
I
could
not
tell
you
with
any
degree
of
certainty.
G
What
we're
recommending
now
to
go
to
eight
is
to
allow
for
the
blend
of
projects
to
include
some
more
of
the
deeper
retrofits,
so
that
the
expectation
on
returns
is
a
little
bit
longer.
Allows
us
to
invest
a
little
bit
more,
but,
in
addition
to
potentially
saving
energy
also
allows
us
to
reduce
greenhouse
gases.
More.
B
Does
that
take
into
account
and
hydro
Ottawa
has
the
show
JA
Falls
and
we
produce
electricity,
but
most
of
our
electricity
comes
from
OPG,
correct,
Ontario,
Power
Generation,
and
does
it
take
into
account
the
ghd's
that
they
in
their
water
and
nuclear
and
renewal,
but
they
also
have
natural
gas
plants
that
that
produce
electricity?
Does
it
take
that
into
account?
A
B
Factors
we
use
are
based
on
provincial
numbers,
so
they
would
take
into
account
the
electricity
mix
that
we
do
have
that's
applied
to
us
provincially,
not
necessarily
exactly
what
we
get
in
in
Ottawa,
perhaps
but
on
a
provincial
basis.
Yes,
so
the
full,
the
full
environmental
impact
of
producing
that
unit
of
energy.
Yes,
thank
you
very
much.
G
Chair
not
a
number
that
we've
been
asked
before.
Generally,
these
systems
are
installed.
Then
the
priority
has
been
for
our
larger
buildings,
where
there
is
some
value
in
investing.
We
have
about
eight
hundred
buildings
in
the
city,
but
everything
from
thousand
square
foot
buildings
to
two
hundred
thousand
square-foot
buildings,
and
obviously
this
we
have
started
with
the
larger
ones
and
most
of
them
now
have
some
portion
or
all
of
the
building
on
the
system,
but
I
I,
guess
I.
G
Certainly
something
I
could
get
back
to
you
on
I,
don't
know
at
which
point
in
terms
of
smallness
of
building.
We
would
stop,
and
so
I
don't
think
it's
122
out
of
800
and
maybe
122
out
of
500
or
400.
That
piece
I,
don't
know
hadn't
up
and
asked,
but
we'd
be
happy
to
give
you
at
least
an
estimate
of
it.
I'd.
B
G
G
Design
issues
we
probably
could
achieve
more.
There
is
in
this
report
mention
of
retrofits
and
retro-commissioning
of
buildings.
We
have
a
lot
of
buildings
that
were
intended
for
one
purpose
award
garage
or
something
like
that:
a
fire
station
that
have
been
turned
into
a
community
center
or
an
admin
center
and
in
those
buildings
simply
because
the
design
was
not
for
what
the
intent
currently
is.
G
There
are
probably
some
limits
in
just
what
we're
able
to
control
with
building
and
building
controls,
but
certainly
we
want
to
look
at
those
sites
and
look
at
how
to
improve
that
and
that
will
likely
be
through
for
the
retrofits
of
those
buildings
and
and
in
some
cases,
recommissioning
what
has
been
done
to
the
building,
to
put
it
into
his
current
state.
Excellent.
Thank
you.
Thank.
E
G
Our
understanding
is
that
this
has
always
been
an
internal
report
of
the
city's,
essentially
tombstone
data
on
accomplishments
we
were,
and
so
I
don't
think
we
ever
thought.
This
was
something
that
that
the
public
would
have
input
on.
It
is
essentially
the
data
that
has
accumulated
over
the
last
five
years.
G
E
G
E
G
We
are
still
in
discussions
for
City,
Hall
and
I.
Believe
the
main
library
is
people
working
on
the
main
library
are
also
talking
about
it.
At
this
point,
there
are
still
some
issues
to
resolve
in
terms
of
upfront,
capital
costs
to
connect,
City
Hall
and
the
actual
performance
of
the
system
versus
our
current
costs.
A
Forward
and
just
to
jump
in
on
that
so
I
know,
Steve
Willis
has
been
working
on
that
as
well,
and
just
to
be
clear,
it's
not
just
the
cost
concerns.
There
are
also
environmental
concerns
that
it's
not
as
good
as
what
we
might
think
it
should
be.
So
this
is
not
something
that
we're
gonna
jump
into
just
from
a
cost
perspective.
It's
also
to
make
sure
that
it
makes
sense
environmentally
for
the
city
and
that
it
is
efficient
and
that
it
doesn't.
E
B
Chair
is
part
of
library
project
and
our
commitment
to
counsel.
We
are
looking
at
the
business
case
of
including
or
considering
district
energy
we're
still
going
up
through
that
process.
Right
now,
but
as
mr.
Cheney
indicated,
there
are
challenges
with
what
district
energy
is
at
this
stage,
and
also
the
commitment
that
we
made
to
counsel
as
part
of
library
project
in
terms
of
achieving
LEED
Gold
certification
as
a
minimum
which,
in
its
current
state
district
energy,
would
not
allow
us
to
be
able
to
achieve
those
targets.
F
Much
mr.
chair,
so
this
is
this-
is
very
exciting.
Work
I'm
excited
by
it,
because
it's
one
of
the
only
things
in
the
municipality
where
you
can
do
an
upfront
capital
expenditure
and
have
some
savings
later
on,
while
having
social
good
to
come
with
it
as
well,
and
so
this
is.
This
is
the
type
of
thing
we
need
to
be.
Investing
in.
So
I
commend
your
work
thanks
for
for
what
you've
done
over
the
last
five
years,
how
many,
how
many
people
are
actually
on
the
beam
team?
What
does
a
total?
G
F
And
one
of
the
interesting
thing
in
other
cities
around
the
country
is
some
of
them:
they
recoup
savings.
It
goes
into
a
central
plot.
Essentially
you
know
from
savings
from
that
team
and
then
they're
able
to
use
those
savings
to
do
other
retrofits.
That
would
then
reduce
our
emissions
further
and
and
save
us
more
money,
and
so
do
ours.
Just
go
back.
G
Currently,
the
savings
go
to
essentially
the
energy
bottom
line,
which
happens
to
be
in
my
department
as
well,
so
in
a
sense,
I
do
get
to
keep
the
savings
and
reflect
it.
However,
it
doesn't
go
back
into
capital
investments
into
in
into
more
energy
projects.
At
this
point,
the
city
has
created
a
new
centralized
Energy
Office
that
will
look
at
the
financial
model
for
the
city's
utilities,
how
we
pay
the
bills
and
how
we
finance
all
of
this.
That
is
something
that's
just
being
set
up
right
now,
and
you
know
alternative
ways
of
approaching.
F
That's
that
return
is
fantastic,
so
it
we
need
to
be
doing
a
lot
more
of
this
and
I
think
their
investment
needs
to
be
there
as
well
and
there's
other
ways
to
do
where
the
city
isn't
necessarily
investing
the
capital,
so
I
know
hydro
Ottawa
has
made
you
know
and
all
further
leaves
they've
said
to
us
look.
It
will
do
some
deep
retrofit
for
you
on
some
buildings
and
I.
Think
I
think
we
should
be
potentially
looking
at
that.
F
If
we
don't
want
to
invest
the
capital
ourselves
with
our
low
interest
rates,
they'll
have
a
bit
higher
interest
rates
than
we
do.
We
should
still
be
looking
at
that
as
a
you
know,
this
term
and
I
suspect
our
counselor
sponsors
group
will
talk
about
it,
but
that's
certainly
one
of
the
initiatives
that
we
should
be
looking
at.
First,
I'm
up
I'm
for
the
costs.
F
The
top
two
emissions
in
the
City
of
Ottawa
are
transportation,
so
mostly
our
transit
fleet
and
at
our
buildings
right.
So
this
is
why
I
think
this
is
our.
This
is
our
huge
opportunity
here
to
to
both
to
savings
and
and
lower
GS
geez.
It's
not
just
the
street
lighting
either.
It's
also
traffic
lights.
Is
that
correct?
We're
converting
traffic
lights
to
LED
I
believe
I've
I
was
at
the
facility
not
too
long
ago
and
I
think
they
also
mentioned
that
chair.
G
Not
on
your
program,
although
I
think
some
of
that
may
be
happening,
we
are
looking
at
streetlights
parking,
lot
lights,
sports
field
lights,
so
those
kinds
of
pathway,
Park
lighting,
those
kinds
of
things
we
haven't
gone
into
the
traffic
domain,
because
that
that
has
been
primarily
mr.
Landry
and
and
his
team.
But
we
are
looking
at
just
about
everything
else
in
terms
of
interior
and
exterior
of
buildings.
Parkland.
F
Okay,
yeah
no
I
think
they
have
started
converting
some
of
the
street
lights.
There
is
an
issue
with
because
of
the
snow
and
melting
the
snow
and
the
other
lights
were
hot
and
these
ones
are
not
so
they
had
to
put
a
cover
anyway,
but
I
think
they
are
doing
that.
I
just
want
to
get
back
to
the
notion
of
the
cost-benefit
here
too,
because
we
sort
of
said
well
we're
switching
from
things
like
switching
over
to
natural
gas
to
save
some
cost
and
moving
to
some
electricity
output
for
for
lower
GHG
emissions.
F
I
think
we
need
to
make
sure
we're
focusing
on
on
both.
It
really
is
important
to
look
at
things
like
air
source
heat
pumps
right.
You
know,
those
are
those
are
it's
equivalent
to
natural
gas.
They
make
them
in
cold
climates
now,
tube
down
to
minus
25
won't
work
everywhere,
but
in
a
lot
of
our
facilities,
those
are
the
sorts
of
things
that
that
I
want
to
see,
and
so,
when
you're
talking
about
deep
retrofits
to
buildings,
what
is
our
barrier
right
now
to
doing
that?
I
understand.
There's
a
closure
of
facilities
to
do
deep!
G
It's
a
variety
of
things,
depending
on
the
inventory
you're
talking
about
some
of
it
is
to
try
to
coordinate
it
with
lifecycle
projects
so
that
we're
not
replacing
too
much
of
the
city's
equipment
or
headed
way
ahead
of
time,
because
we've
had
a
fairly
aggressive
life
cycle
program,
some
of
our
boilers
and
air
exchangers
and
those
kinds
of
things
have
been
replaced,
but
are
not
necessarily
they
could
use
to
be
retrofitted
for
better
energy.
But
often
we
are
pacing
it
to
make
sense
with
the
life
cycle
program.
G
Some
of
it
is
taking
too
many
facilities
out
of
out
of
commission
too
quickly.
We've
talked
to
hydro
Ottawa
about
that,
because,
with
their
more
aggressive
borrowing
program
to
finance
some
of
this,
it
really
does
put
a
pressure
on
things
like
swimming
pools
and
arenas
and
community
centers,
where
you
can't
have
them
all
or
half
of
them
closed
at
one
time.
F
F
The
FCM
programs
that
are
online
now
some
of
them
are
for
affordable
housing,
retrofits
others
are
direct
to
renters
and
homeowners
as
my
understanding
through
municipalities.
So
it's
important
with
these
programs
to
be
on
the
first
rush
of
new
money
that
comes
in
it's
the
the
first
application
trash.
So
as
the
city
is
a
city
working
directly
with
with
FCM
staff
and
then
the
municipal
fund
program
to
make
sure
that
we're
on
the
first
go-around
of
applications.
G
We
are
just
starting
to
we've
had
a
look
at.
It
appears
that
there
are
two
phases
to
their
application
process.
An
August
first
phase
to
essentially
pre
apply
to
give
them
an
idea
of
what
what
we
would
propose.
So
that's
for
August,
first
and
then
an
October
first
one
for
projects
that,
as
I
understand,
will
be
by
invitation
in
that
on
August.
G
First,
we've
convinced
them
that
what
we
want
to
do
is
aligns
with
what
their
priorities
are,
and
then
you
are
invited
to
apply
we're
still
trying
to
understand
the
there
appears
to
be
a
loan
and
grant
portion
to
what
they
are
doing
and
we're
still
trying
to
understand
what
the
loans
are
at,
what
interest
rates
and
how
it
turns
into
a
grant,
possibly
so
we're
working
out
the
finer
details.
We
are
aware
that
there
that
that
the
right
there
and
that
there
is
a
deadline
looming,
okay,.
F
Yeah
I
mean
normally,
they
combine
a
loan
in
the
grant.
If
you
have
a
lower
interest
rate
overall
for
doing
it,
it'd
probably
be
fairly
low.
It's
it's
a
pretty
good
model,
but
okay,
so
thank
thanks
very
much
for
all
you're
doing
and
would
love
to
I'd
love
to
work
with
you
more
on
this,
particularly
around
your
the
building,
envelope,
work
and
and
URM.
Sorry.
F
Actually,
for
that
one
question:
do
you
have
a
list
of
buildings
in
your
inventory
that
you
know
exactly
what
needs
to
be
done
of
them
and
sort
of
have
a
of
the
eight
hundred
buildings?
Here's
number
one
two
three
are
one
through
a
hundred
that
we
need
to
do
right
away.
These
are
our
biggest
energy
sucks.
These
are
ones
that
are
wasting
water.
Let's
get
those
done
first,
in
a
deep
rut,
your
fit
program.
Do
we
have
that?
Yes,.
G
Or
is
a
list
between
us
and
and
the
infrastructure
services
life
cycle
list?
There
is
a
fairly
comprehensive
list
to
the
deep
retrofit
of
older
buildings.
As
you
may
have
read.
In
hee
we
are
looking
at
the
Glebe
community
centers
as
one
to
look
at
the
envelope
and
try
to
not
only
make
it
more
energy-efficient,
but
to
make
make
it
actually
more
comfortable
for
occupants
in
the
building.
So
a
building
in
your
ward
is
should
be
one
of
our
first.
H
Yeah,
just
just
very
quickly,
Dan
we've
sort
of
been
talking
about
the
rapport
up
here
somewhere.
So
for
the
benefit
of
the
people
in
the
gallery,
can
you
sort
of
walk
us
through
practically
what
happens
so
we
have
a
building.
It
needs
a
roof
repair,
for
example,
as
part
of
the
you're
talking
about
trying
to
keep
it
in
sync,
with
with
life
cycle
maintenance,
for
example,
so
it
needs
a
roof
repair.
So
what
would
be
the
steps?
Do
we
go
in
there
and
we
say:
well,
this
roof
needs
to
be
repaired.
H
G
Chair
very
practically,
and
the
reason
that
it's
within
the
beam
group
is
within
my
department
is
that,
first
of
all,
we
try
to
identify
the
needs
of
the
building
from
people
who
live
them
every
day,
so
our
maintenance
and
repair
people
like
then
are
able
to
identify
every
day
what
specific
buildings
need.
As
mr.
Gong
Jays
team
prepares
life
cycle,
renewal
of
those
buildings,
whether
it
be
an
arena
or
a
pool,
so
we're
going
to
do
the
roof.
The
beam
team
will
often
move
in
and
say,
while
you're
up
there
and
the
building
is
closed.
G
G
H
I
just
want
to
piggyback
on
on
one
of
the
comments
you
made
about
making
the
buildings
also
more
comfortable
for
the
people
in
them,
so
I,
think
of
sort
of
the
old
Nepean
mall.
You've
got
a
lot
of
those
sort
of
cinderblock
kind
of
field
house
/,
community
buildings,
they're
cold
in
the
winter
they're
hot
in
the
summer.
G
Chair
we're
looking
at
things
like
building
envelope,
retrofits,
so
windows
and
doors,
some
of
them
are
not.
The
best
quality
often
were
put
in
without
energy
concerns
when
they
were
when
they
were
first
built.
Certainly
in
the
example
in
councilman
arts,
the
Glebe,
it's
a
very
old
building
with
you
know,
with
with
with
a
lot
of
air
infiltration
and
a
lot
of
issues,
but
it
could
be
other
things.
It
could
be
supplemental
heating
on
the
floors
to
make
it
more
calm.
When
there's
children
playing
it
could
be
better
air
circulation
in
the
building.
A
A
A
G
Sir,
my
department
provided
the
response,
because
we
are
the
department
that
administers
the
city's
pouring
rights
contract
with
coke.
The
relevance
of
that
is
that
plastic
beverage
bottles
are
probably
one
of
the
highest
volume.
One
use
consumable
plastic
products
in
city
facilities,
if
not
the
most,
and
certainly
one
of
the
most
of
particular
attention
in
terms
of
this
matter,
is
that,
of
course,
part
of
that
vending
does
include
plastic
water
bottles
as
well
as
other
other
soft
drink
products.
G
G
The
other
portion
of
this
is
to
encourage
drinking
of
tap
water,
City,
tap
water,
and
we
have
taken
initiatives
in
city
buildings
to
add
as
many
water
fountains
as
we
can
possibly
install
as
well
as
floral
logos
and
signage
and
any
opportunity
to
profile
the
availability
of
municipal
drinking
water.
We
have
gone
to
models
of
drinking
fountains
that
now
allow
the
filling
of
bottles,
water
bottles
and
continue
to
do
so
through
a
program
that
as
much
as
possible.
We'll
add
at
these
units
to
facilities.
A
G
A
G
G
A
A
It's
a
mild
addiction.
So
what
I
want
to
do
is
first.
So
thank
you
for
that.
I
will
yeah
this
there's,
not
vanilla,
coconut
water,
while
it's
brisk
iced
tea,
the
I
want
to
get
to
the
the
delegations
first
and
then
we'll
go
to
questions
from
members
accounts
the
members
the
committee
should
I
yeah,
maybe
first
what
we'll
do
is
counselor
mechana.
You
can
introduce
your
motion
and
then
I'll
rule
it
out
of
order
and
then
we'll
move
on
no
I.
I
I
Whereas
on
April,
24th,
2019,
Ottawa,
City
Council
voted
to
declare
a
climate
emergency
in
order
to
deepen
our
commitment
to
protecting
our
economy.
Our
ecosystems
in
our
community
and
whereas
city
staff,
members
of
council
and
the
community
are
about
to
develop
a
new,
solid
waste
master
plan
for
the
City
of
Ottawa
to
guide
waste,
diversion
and
waste
reduction
measures
for
decades
to
come,
and
whereas
the
city
should
lead
by
example,
in
all
waste
diversion
and
reduction
measures
and
where
possible,
ensure
that
it
follows
circular
economy
and
green
procurement
practices
in
all
its
services
and
programs.
I
Balance.
Of
this,
of
course,
was
taken
at
the
time
by
2029
thousand
five
hundred
and
sixty
three
cases
equivalent
to
seven
hundred
nine
thousand
five
hundred
and
twelve
bottles
to
meet
the
minimum
sales
volume.
Commitment
in
the
contract
with
coca-cola
Canada.
As
of
December
2018,
therefore
be
it
resolved
at
the
Standing
Committee
on
environmental
protection,
water
and
waste
management.
I
Resolved
that
staff
be
directed
to
examine
the
feasibility
to
incorporate
the
elimination
of
discretionary
single
use
in
foam
plastic
and
all
of
its
contracted
services,
with
specific
options
related
to
finding
alternatives
to
the
current
contract
with
coca-cola,
when
the
minimum
sales
volume
commitment
is
fulfilled
and
be
that
further
resolved,
that
the
City
of
Ottawa
refresh
its
public
education
programme
on
the
quality
and
accessibility
of
municipal
water.
To
dispel
the
misconception
that
bottled
water
is
of
a
higher
quality,
the
municipal
water.
A
You
very
much
so
I.
Imagine
that
will
be
the
outcome,
but
for
now
we
just
wanted
to
introduce
that
and
I
just
wanted
to
commend
councillor
McKenna,
because
there's
a
lot
of
important
points
in
this
and
a
lot
of
times.
We
talk
about
single-use
plastics,
but
we
don't
necessarily
consider
all
the
ramifications
of
that.
So
understanding
that
there's
accessibility
concerns
in
these
types
situations
as
well
is
importance
and
also
just
the
availability,
and
we
need
to
recognize
that
too.
So,
it's
not
stuff
that
we
can
it's
not
necessarily
a
knee-jerk
reaction.
A
A
You
know
coming
up
with
other
ways
to
provide
options,
so
people
can
actually
comport
our
water
I
know
speaking
to
said
Tammy
Rose,
who
was
director
of
water
services,
the
city
yesterday,
something
that
this
University
of
Ottawa
had
done,
which
was
actually
have
vending
machines
that
sold
aluminum
aluminum
water
bottles,
such
empty
water
bottles.
Now
question
a
cost.
We
have
to
make
sure
that
that
cost
is
is
affordable.
We
don't
want
to
price
ourselves
out
of
the
market.
A
We
need
to
make
sure
that
the
water
that
we
serve
at
the
city
is
is
readily
available
to
our
constituents.
I
know
that
if
I
was
ever
to
be
asked,
you
know,
what's
my
family
doing
to
reduce
plastics
I'd,
probably
be
able
to
quickly
answer
something
like
aluminum
water
bottles.
We've
tried
those
water
box
bottle
things,
but
I
find
the
water
just
pours
right
through
them.
J
Much
my
name
is
Eric
Schiller
I'm,
a
member
of
the
Ottawa
water
study,
action
group,
otherwise
known
as
OSAC
I'm
sitting
here
asking
myself.
Is
there
anyone
in
this
room
that
doesn't
know
that
we
got
a
plastic
waste,
garbage
problem
on
their
hands
and
the
answer
is
probably
not
every
day
we're
hearing
me
stories
about
plastic
disasters
were
seeing
whales
dying
of
eating
plastic
plastics
washing
up
in
the
shores
and
we're
trying
to
get
rid
of
our
unused
plastics
overseas,
and
they
keep
sending
it
back
to
us.
J
Giving
us
very
badly
advertisement
for
Canada
China
doesn't
want
it,
Indonesia
doesn't
want
it.
Maize
doesn't
work.
What's
going
on
here.
It's
not
just
an
environmental
problem,
anymore
business
people
are
concerned.
The
business
people
have
said.
If
we
keep
doing
this,
the
whole
ocean
will
be
full
of
plastics.
Ending
in
2050
will
be
more
plastics
in
the
water
than
fish.
This
is
a
financial
problem
and
the
you
know
the
European
Union
has
passed
a
law.
J
They
passed
it
already
to
get
rid
of
single-use
plastics
by
2021
and
Canada
said:
hey,
we'll
do
the
same
thing
now:
it's
not
all
plastics
that
are
bad
I
think
we
should
straight
this.
It's
the
single-use
plastics
that
are
thrown
into
the
environment.
There's
good
things
you
can
do
with
plastic.
You
can
make
smart
phones
out
of
them.
You
can
make
it
parts
of
the
car,
they
don't
rusted
and
crowed
they
last
a
long
time
about
13
years
ago,
sag
discovered
knowing
that
our
municipal
tap
water
is
excellent
and
well
regulated
and
a
great
quality.
J
We
were
surprised
to
see
the
rise
of
more
and
more
people
drinking
water
from
single-use
plastics,
and
we
consider
this
a
classic
example
of
the
unnecessary,
excessive
use,
single-use
plastics,
which
got
be
changed
and
I'm
when
I
say
that
I
I
know
that
people
can
say
well,
wait
a
minute
how
we
can't
live
without
plastics,
their
hygiene
they're,
convenient
and
we'll
just
we
can.
There
are
alternatives
and
I'm
gonna
end
this
very
short
presentation
by
saying
there's
two
things
to
answer
people
who
say:
well,
this
isn't
practical
to
get
rid
of
similar
use.
Plastics.
J
The
answer
can
be
and
is
only
suggesting,
reusable
water.
When
I
was
young,
we
got
our
milk
and
reusable
water
bottles,
and
you
remember
what
you
used
to
drink
beer
and
reusable
bottles,
and
now
we're
going
to
plastic.
Reusable
glass
can
be
at
one
of
the
answers.
Another
is
paper.
You
can
use
paper
for
all
kinds
of
wrappings
I
used
to
buy
fish
and
chips
wrapped
in
paper.
You
can
do
make
paper
for
a
lot
of
the
wrappings
and
most
of
all
make
reusable
containers
of
all
kinds.
J
In
other
words,
there
is
an
alternative
to
the
successive
unnecessary
use
of
single
use.
Plastic.
There
is
an
alternative
we
can
find
it.
The
second
thing
is
I
want
to
answer
people
say:
oh
I
would
just
recycle
them
all.
You
know
our
recycling
rates
are
abysmal
people.
That
really
study
this
objectively
say
we're
recycling
about
10%
of
our
plastics
90%
are
not
being
recycled.
Even
though
the
Canadian
Beverage
Association
gives
much
more
exaggerated
figures.
They
can't
be
right.
The
other
objective
studies
say
we
are
not
recycling
properly
you'd
say
well
now.
J
Maybe
we
should
just
get
proper
biodegradable
and
recycle.
Even
if
we
get
a
really
good
recycling
program,
we're
still
taking
fossil
fuel
material
out
of
the
ground
and
using
it
for
things,
we
don't
need
to
unnecessary,
excessive
use
of
single
plastics.
We
got
to
stop
this
I
love
this
motion,
because
it's
written
all
over
it
is
we're
going
to
eliminate
the
single-use
and
foam
classics
and
city
programs.
We
highly
support
this.
J
We
that
you'll
do
the
obvious
thing
and
pass
this
and
in
fact,
as
we
go
around
and
watch
people
were
been
in
festivals
and
community
things
and
getting
signatures
and
I'm
gonna
have
someone
bring
up
our
list?
We're
going
to
give
you
a
gift
of
about
2,000
signatures
in
which
we
gathered
over
a
couple
of
months.
J
A
E
J
Question
it's
convenient
like
I,
don't
have
to
worry
about,
you
can
gloat
and
then
just
buy
it
drink
it
and
what's
more
convenient
than
to
throw
it
over
your
shoulder
and
say
it's
gone,
I,
don't
care
what
happens
to
it
convenience
and
they
have
been
persuaded
that
this
water
is
better
quality
than
tap
water.
That's
the
real
killer!
I'm,
a
water
engineer:
I
studied
this
I
take
students
to
the
water
treatment
plant.
It's
not
better.
It's
fiddled
with
they
take
some
minerals
out,
put
some
minerals
in
and
say
it's
better.
J
It
is
simply
not
better
I
mean
I
could
go
through
all
the
statistics
and
the
minerals
and
what's
doing
what,
but
that's
the
main
reason
they
think
it's
a
better
quality
and
hey
it's
so
cheap!
Well,
yeah!
Well,
that's
two
dollars
for
a
half
later
and
that
makes
$4
liter,
which
is
more
than
gas.
That's
not
cheap,
but
if
you
go
to
Walmart
or
something
can
get
it
for
eight
cents
a
bottle,
but
you
know
what
the
price
of
your
water
under
the
top
is
a
quarter
of
a
cent
a
leader.
E
C
B
E
A
You
thank
you
very
much.
I
know
councillor
McCrae
when
she
chaired
this
committee.
She
always
whenever
we
had.
These
conversations
shows
me
sure
we
have
this
big.
This
big
cube.
It's
a
it's
a
cubic
meter
of
water.
We
should
always
have
it
on
display
with
the
price
of
what
it
costs
to
fill
that
key.
So
just
it
just
as
a
and
we
have
it
on
display
down
in
City
Hall.
It
was
before
at
some
point
as
well,
because
it's
a
good
message,
I
mean
it's.
A
K
Good
morning
to
the
chair
and
members
of
the
standing
committee,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
you
today.
As
mentioned.
My
name
is
Marianne
McDonald
and
I'm
here,
because
I
care
about
what
type
of
world
my
grandchildren
will
inherit,
I'm
speaking
as
a
member
of
and
with
the
full
support
of
water
care
allies
of
first
United
Church,
a
group
committed
to
working
in
collaboration
with
others
to
find
solutions
to
protecting
water
as
a
sacred
human
right.
K
In
nature
plants
using
co2
and
water,
with
the
help
from
the
Sun
become
miniature
powerhouses
producing
energy
and
oxygen
for
free.
You
don't
see
piles
of
dead
plants
and
animals
in
nature
because
they
are
efficiently
returned
to
the
earth
as
food
for
another
life
process
to
occur.
If
we
constantly
bombard
and
enter
and
interrupt
this
process
with
plastic
contamination,
then
eventually
the
earth
will
cease
to
be
able
to
provide
for
our
needs.
K
The
Trillium,
the
Ontario
provincial
flower,
once
carpeted
the
forest
floor.
It
seems
now
that
plastic
is
the
new
flower
in
the
forest.
We
are
choking
the
planet
with
plastic.
Classic
is
a
man-made
product
which
is
of
no
biological
use
in
the
natural
system.
It
cannot
be
broken
down
by
the
current
decomposers
in
nature.
K
Some
say
old,
but
plastic
bottles
are
recyclable,
that's
true,
and
yet
so
many
of
them
never
make
it
to
the
recycle
bin,
and
even
when
plastic
is
recycled,
it
is
still
plastic.
Eventually,
it
goes
to
landfill.
In
January,
2018
China
essentially
shut
down
the
recycling
programs
around
the
world.
The
cost
to
hauling
away
recyclables
continues
to
rise
burning.
The
plastic
as
energy
from
waste
is
not
the
solution
either,
since,
in
a
recent
study,
zero-waste
Europe,
even
state-of-the-art
incinerators
emit
dioxins
which
are
highly
toxic
and
can
cause
reproductive
and
developmental
problems.
K
There
were
over
a
thousand
cleaning
the
capital
projects.
This
spring.
From
my
experience,
up
to
50%
of
the
trash
collected
was
plastic
bottles,
I'm
sure.
As
a
councillor,
you
can
think
of
more
effective
ways
for
staff
and
volunteers
in
the
community
to
spend
their
time
than
picking
up
unnecessary
trash.
K
When
did
it
become
necessary
to
have
a
bottle
of
water
within
our
reach
and
if
it
is
necessary
than
a
refillable
bottle,
is
the
answer
I've
had
this
one
for
over
10
years
and
have
eliminated
the
need
for
over
3000
single-use
bottles
in
that
time?
When
did
it
become
a
trend
to
care
about
being
healthy
ourselves,
but
not
about
the
health
of
Mother
Earth?
You
can't
have
the
first
without
the
second,
this
isn't
about
convenience.
K
This
is
about
sick,
about
slick
advertisers,
giving
us
a
false
sense
of
what
is
healthy,
Peter
Gleick,
an
expert
on
water
policy
and
director
at
the
Pacific
Institute
in
Oakland
California
said
overall,
the
average
energy
cost
to
make
the
plastic
fill
the
bottle
transport
it
to
market
and
then
deal
with
the
waste
would
be
like
filling
up
a
quarter
of
every
bottle
with
oil.
That's
insanity,
local
aquifers,
are
being
depleted
by
multinational
companies,
making
outrageous
profits
with
no
respect
for
the
community
or
the
environment.
K
Bottled
water
is
one
of
the
biggest
marketing
scams
ever
foisted
on
the
people
of
Canada.
Our
cities
are
mandated
by
the
province
to
maximize
waste
diversion
the
water
care
allies
believe
we
need
to
eliminate
the
creation
of
that
waste
in
the
first
place.
One
logical
step
is
the
elimination
of
plastic
water
bottles
in
June
of
2018
Canada,
along
with
many
other
countries
adopted
the
ocean
plastics
charter
to
take
concrete
and
ambitious
action
to
address
the
problem
of
the
marine
plastic.
K
Litter
I
suggest
to
you
that
the
most
important
action
that
can
be
taken
to
protect
the
marine
environments
begins
right
here
at
the
municipal
level.
By
eliminating
the
source
of
the
plastic
waste
that
ends
up
in
the
Ottawa
River
and
eventually
in
the
oceans
leaders
link
that
they
value
to
how
they
behave.
If
they
value
a
healthy
environment,
including
clean
air
and
clean
water,
then
we
they
will
make
decisions
that
support
those
values.
K
All
the
answers
for
what
a
future
without
plastic
bottles
will
look
like,
may
not
be
immediately
obvious,
but
today,
I
am
hopeful
for
the
sake
of
my
four
grandchildren
that
the
members
of
this
committee
will
show
what
leadership
can
be
and
will
do
what
is
right
for
all
citizens
of
Ottawa.
By
adopting
this
motion
foot
put
forth
by
councillor
McKenney
as
a
first
step.
A
Much
positioning
you
mentioned
the
party
year
when
you
were
speaking
about
that
the
plastics
are
lining
there.
The
forest
floor
we
I
was
in
March,
I
was
driving
on
the
I-95
in
Virginia,
and
our
rooftop
carrier
popped
open
and
the
basketball
bounced
out
down
the
highway
in
the
middle
of
nowhere,
and
so
we
pulled
over
and
ran
back.
My
wife,
who
was
dead
once
right
inside,
ran
back
to
get
the
basketball
she's
faster
than
me,
so
the.
A
But
what
we
noticed
was
that
the
entire
highway
it
was
just
littered
with
with
garbage,
and
mostly
things
like
what
you're
mentioning
just
everywhere,
and
this
was
just
somewhere
in
the
middle
nowhere
between
Richmond
and
Fredericksburg
Virginia,
but
it
was
just
absolutely
there
with
garbage
and
along
the
waist
along
the
side
of
the
highway,
and
most
of
it
is
stuff
that
could
could
have
ended
up
dead,
buried,
recycled
glass.
Even
obviously
just
put
a
picture
up.
There
is
exempt
ec1.
A
A
C
It
was
pretty
crazy
how
overwhelming
the
every
single
issue
that
came
up
you
know:
I
had
to
tally
up
the
issues
and
everything
it
was
all
around
climate
change
pollution.
That
was
the
number
one
thing
that
the
youth
cared
about
and
because
they
were
afraid
you
know.
A
lot
of
the
youth
today
are
scared
about
the
future.
They're
scared
about
the
climate
and
I
think
that's
why
a
lot
of
the
reasons
that
they're
so
plugged
into
the
phone
is
because
there's
a
you.
C
It's
easier,
you
know
to
not
have
to
feel
like
the
impending
doom
that
that's
coming
up,
and
so
when
we
started
looking
at
addressing
some
of
these
issues
and
how
they
would
make
a
change,
you
know
we
came
up
with
some
ideas
of
like
certain
steps
and
moving
towards
it,
and
there
was
this
one
kid
there
during
during
a
class-
and
he
said
yeah,
you
know,
but
it's
not
going
to
do
anything
anyway.
It's
like
it's
not
going
to
do
it.
We're
all
gonna
die
yeah,
that's
okay!
So
we're
like.
C
Let's
talk
about
this,
so
we
we
started
discussing
like
it's
not
going
to
do
anything
and
he
had
no
idea.
He
had
no
concept
to
look
towards
right.
There
was
no
and
so
I
started,
throwing
in
all
different
stories
on
Martin
Luther,
King
Gandhi,
every
different
change
activists
of
how
people
overcame
challenges
that
they
didn't
think
were
possible
to
overcome
it
and
how
we
as
a
society,
stood
up
in
the
face
of
great
challenges
like
climate
change,
and
he
kind
of
was
he's
like
he.
C
He
got
soft
for
a
second
and
I
could
tell
that
some
of
what
I
said
landed
on
him,
but
there
was
still
this
kind
of
edge
there.
You
know
this
still
this
edge
that
he
still
needed.
Hope
you
know
he
needed
something
to
look
to.
You
know
he
needed
and
I
think
that
that's
what
we
can
do
right
now,
yeah,
where
we
can
give
our
future
generations
hope
you
know,
single-use
plastics
is
it's
one
step
right.
C
I
have
a
much
larger
thing
that
we
have
called
climate
change,
and
this
is
something
very
tangible:
it's
accessible,
it's
that
low-hanging
fruit
that
we
can
grab
right
now.
That's
very
easy
that
also
gives
people
that
momentum.
Anyone
people
have
hope
they
have
strength
and
that's
what
we
need
for
our
future.
So
thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
A
L
Okay,
thank
you
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
speak
here
and
voice
an
opinion
that
many
people
agree
with.
My
name
is
mylène
Briggs
I
started
living
a
zero-waste
life
in
2015
as
a
single
parent.
This
is
my
one
jar
of
garbage
in
which
I
created
in
a
year.
It
was
up
there
there.
It
is
and
chronicled
my
journey
on
a
blog
titled,
a
dream
lived
greener
today,
I'd
like
to
show
you
all
a
petition
which
I
created
that
has
almost
13,000
supporters
and
has
been
shared
over
2,500
times.
L
L
Ottawa
is
a
beautiful
city.
A
city
many
of
us
had
have
had
the
opportunity
to
witness
incredible
growth
and
change
over
the
years,
with
Ottawa
being
the
nation's
capital.
We
believe
that
we
should
be
a
city
that
leads
and
inspires
change
that
is
beneficial
not
only
to
its
citizens
but
to
our
community
around
us.
L
We
believe
that
it
is
our
responsibility
as
citizens
of
Ottawa
to
protect
and
care
about
our
city,
caring
for
it
and
protecting.
It
shows
great
respect
for
our
city
as
well
as
ourselves.
It
is
no
secret
that
we
are
facing
a
global
waste
issue,
but
we
believe
we
can
work
together
to
prevent
further
waste
and
long
lasting
and
impactful
change.
L
Currently,
our
landfills
are
full
with
our
city
growing
larger.
We
don't
have
the
capacity
to
hold
the
increasing
amount
of
waste
while
the
green
bin
and
recycling
is
helpful.
We
believe
we
can
further
reduce
our
waste
by
eliminating
the
use
and
sale
of
single-use
disposable
plastic
bags
and
bottles
bless.
You
banning
single-use
disposable
plastic
items
such
as
cutlery,
plates
and
cups.
L
Why
is
this
important
one?
It
will
help
to
reduce
plastic
waste
in
the
landfill
we
can
move
to
biodegradable
items
that
can
also
be
composted.
Plastic
is
not
biodegradable.
As
you
all
know,
it
supports
the
use
of
petroleum
blocks.
Drainage
systems
is
harmful
to
wildlife.
Most
of
us
have
seen
those
photos
with
all
the
sea
life
and
animals
with
their
bellies
full
of
plastic,
and
it
ruins
the
aesthetics
of
the
city,
streets
and
parks.
L
Plastic
also
has
a
global
detrimental
impact.
Places
such
as
my
homeland
in
the
Philippines
receive
Canada's
plastic
waste
and
they
are
not
properly
equipped
to
affect
to
efficiently
dispose
of
or
recycle
such
items.
This
means
much
of
that
plastic
then
finds
its
way
into
the
oceans,
rivers
and
water
supplies,
I've,
seen
firsthand
the
increasing
amount
of
plastic
pollution
and
the
oceans
where
my
family
still
lives
and
of
course
the
fourth
reason
is
everything
that
you
guys
have
stated
today
as
long
as
well
as
the
delegates.
L
Our
city
now
has
our
first
name
named:
zero
waste
grocery
store
new
grocery.
We
have
a
zero
waste,
Ottawa
resources,
Facebook
group
with
over
600
members,
and
we
have
a
plastic
free,
Ottawa,
Facebook
group
with
almost
200
and
still
growing.
We
have
over
12,000
supporters
of
this
petition,
which
was
I
was
going
to
show
you,
which
means
we
are
a
community
that
is
actively
seeking
an
alternative
solution
and
we
are
seeking
to
reduce
our
waste.
L
L
A
E
You
mr.
chair
I,
just
like
staff
to
dissect
the
three
therefore
clauses
and
just
explain
to
the
committee
what
they
understand
is
being
asked
and
the
feasibility
or
the
likelihood
that
we
can
implement
all
three
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
movers
intent
and
the
staffs
understanding
are
the
same.
G
Cherrylle
I
can
start
with
my
part.
Some
of
this
relates
to
the
waste
management
plan,
which
will
not
be
me,
but
Maryland,
is
here
and
can
help
with
that
in
terms
of
the
programming
and
operating
impacts.
I
I
see
no
issues
with
this
are
part
of
it.
I
think
is
relatively
straightforward
and
simple
elimination
of
single-use
plastics.
G
It
aligns
with
the
direction
we're
going
in
with
respect
to
things
like
the
pouring
rights
and
and
the
other
policies
that
we're
developing
and
so
from
the
their
fours,
as
it
relates
to
the
work
that
we're
doing
it's,
it's
consistent
with
the
direction
we're
heading
in
and
it
seems
to
be
reasonable
in
terms
of
timing
and
exceptions
for
circumstances
and
those
kinds
of
things.
My.
E
G
G
We
do
have
some
facilities
that
have
water
quality
issues
the
where
we
rely
on
water
bottles,
as
certainly
as
an
interim
solution
for
the
most
part
in
programs
and
the
the
foam
piece
of
this
is
is
perhaps
a
new
new
thing
that
I
want
to
have
a
closer
look
at,
but
by
and
large,
single-use
plastic
is
not
a
big
piece
of
our
programming.
This
calls
for
us
to
do
a
review
and-
and
we
will
and
I
suspect,
that
in
the
programming
context
there
are
good
alternatives.
G
You
know
whether
you're
talking
about
arts
and
craft
supplies
or
support
to
sports
activities
by
and
large,
there
appear
to
now
be
some
good
alternatives
to
those.
So
and-
and
it
appears
to
be
a
progressive
approach
here,
where
we
can
do
a
review
and
find
alternatives
and
implement
them
as
we
go
along,
and
so
therefore,
for
the
parts
that
my
department
is
responsible
for
seem
to
be
doable
in
in
the
course
of
time.
E
Okay,
I
do
believe
that
the
city
has
a
responsibility
to
to
take
action
and
even
though
it
may
be
a
small
minor
step,
it
is
in
the
right
direction
and
I
will
be
supporting
this
today.
I
was
telling
my
colleague
that
I
do
believe,
there's
some
responsibility
that
people
have
to
take
on
themselves
and
and
as
adults
and
and
even
older
youth.
E
There
are
choices
and
if
people
make
bad
choices,
that's
one
thing,
but
then
this
is
a
step
where
we
can
to
take
a
step
forward,
and
there
are
many
products
sold
in
our
city
that
come
in
plastics
that
used
to
not
come
in
plastic.
So
when
I
was
younger,
grocery
shopping
with
my
father,
so
does
salad
dressing,
you
name
it.
We
have
converted
the
old
ketchup
bottle,
trying
to
get
ketchup
out.
We
have
converted,
basically,
all
of
these
types
of
packaging,
from
glass
to
plastic
and
I
assume
it's
all
down
to
expense.
E
That
is
what
has
has
driven
this.
So
a
broader
motion,
a
more
even
bolder
motion
would
be
to
look
at
again
packaging,
and
maybe
you
can
explain
and
just
remind
this
committee,
about
the
provincial
onus.
That's
coming
to
make
producers
responsible
for
the
packaging
that
they
create,
that
it
must
be
recycled
that
they
are
going
to
be
contributing
towards
the
cost
of
recycling
in
this
province.
Can
you
just
give
a
brief
statement
on
that
item?.
K
E
I
do
think
this
is
significant.
This
was
an
initiative
started
by
the
former
provincial
government.
Current
one
has
embraced
it
thankfully,
and
are
moving
forward
on
that.
My
last
question
is
just
regarding
the
promotion
of
city
water,
drinking
water,
which
I
agree
with
the
chair
is
of
top
quality
best
in
the
world.
K
Through
you,
mr.
chair,
thank
you
for
the
question.
In
2019,
we
have
a
budget
of
$100,000
for
water
service
promotion
and
one
dedicated
staff
member
that
coordinates
various
innovative
ways
to
educate
the
community
about
our
exceptional
drinking
water.
Our
multi
prong
plan
focuses
on
building
on
our
successes
and
looking
to
the
future.
K
Our
plan
has
an
educational
component
with
a
goal
of
teaching
students
and
residents
about
our
water
process
to
build
an
appreciation
on
how
clean
and
safe
our
water
is
and
includes
inviting
residents
to
our
water
purification
plants
through
doors,
open
tours
and
virtual
experiences.
It
also
includes
promoting
the
quality
of
our
drinking
water
through
educational
tools
and
targeted
programs
such
as
water
bottle,
distribution,
I,
drink
tap,
water
buttons
and
a
cake
2/6
enhanced
school
program
planned
for
this
fall
all
in
an
effort
to
move
people
from
bottled
water
to
tap
water.
K
The
outreach
component
of
our
plan
includes
promoting
water
and
drinking
water
throughout
the
year
at
fairs.
Public
and
counselor
hosted
events
and
youth
activities
and
we're
also
looking
at
enhancing
our
use
of
technologies
and
to
support
our
campaigns
and
educational
activities,
including
Twitter,
Facebook
and
Ottawa
CA.
Finally,
but
not
least,
we
are
working
closely
with
our
city
partners
in
public
health
and
Recreation
and
Culture
and
facility
services
to
promote
tap
water
is
the
best
choice
for
all
residents.
Thank.
C
Councillor,
I
think
that's
a
really
good
question,
and
in
order
to
do
that,
we
would
like
to
take
some
of
the
funds
that
we
have
in
our
promotional
budget
to
do
to
do
a
survey
and
to
to
get
the
answer
to.
Why
do
people
choose
bottled
water?
So
currently
we
don't
have
survey,
result
or
statistics,
but
that
is
something
that
it's
important
for
us
to
have
in
order
to
build
a
robust
promotion
campaign.
So
we
know
what
it
is
that
we're
up
against
in
terms
of
messaging
and.
E
I
think
mr.
chair,
that
is
a
key
thing
for
me,
is
I.
Think
taking
the
step
today
on
the
motion
is
smart
and
wise
and
I
will
be
supporting
it,
but
if
people
say
well,
Walkerton
is
at
the
back
of
my
mind
and
I'm
really
afraid
that
some
of
the
issues
from
that
experience
could
happen
again
and
I
would
just
rather
buy
bottled
water.
A
H
Well,
I
think
the
First
Gentleman
had
it
right.
I
think
is
a
lot
to
do
with
convenience.
I,
don't
think
any
was
ever
died
of
convenience
or
inconvenience,
so
I'm
gonna
be
supporting
this
motion.
I
think
it's
it's
a
very,
very
positive
step
for
her,
but
I
have
a
couple
of
quick
questions
for
staff
machine.
You
talked
about
some
versus
facilities
where
water
quality
was
an
issue
and
therefore
we
may
use
bottled
water
at
those
facilities.
I
know
that
there
is
some
technology
out
there,
where
you
essentially
have
portable
water
stations.
H
For
example,
I
know,
there's
a
local
company
in
town.
Alcoholics
has
something
called
an
aqua
pod
which
allows
water
to
be
dispensed
much
like
our
water
fountains,
but
it
comes
in
a
in
a
cart
like
for
Matt
I'm,
just
wondering
if
we've
looked
at
some
alternatives,
such
as
that,
as
opposed
to
using
bottled
water
at
some
of
these
more
compromised
facilities
in
terms
of
the
water
quality
or
if
we,
if
we
haven't,
could
we.
G
Mr.
chair,
we
have
over
there
in
aqua
pods
is,
is
I,
think
a
relatively
new
design
for
these,
but
there
have
there
have
been
various
options
and
the
city
has
worked
with
them,
primarily
for
big
gatherings.
Things
like
festivals
and
I
know:
we've
had
it
here
at
Marian,
Dora,
Plaza
and
at
other
locations,
where
there's
been
large
festival
gatherings
and
increasingly
we're
finding
the
festival
community
is
buying
into
reducing
their
waste
and
reed
and
encouraging
that
use
the
facilities.
G
And
that's
where,
when
I
was
referring
to
water
bottles,
it
was
primarily
those
types
of
facilities
that
had
not
just
that
the
water
didn't
taste
good,
as
there
are
real
health
issues
with
with
drinking
it,
but
certainly
we're
interested
in
looking
at
aqua,
pod
and
other
variations
of
that
and
encouraging
them
for
when
people
use
city
facilities
for
large
events,
encouraging
that
used
to
minimize
the
waste
that
we
collect
here
when
those
kinds
of
things
happen.
Okay,
thank
you.
The.
H
Other
question
is,
and
maybe
a
little
bit
outside
of
this
report,
but
you
know
we've
said
repeatedly
that
that
our
water
is
the
best
water
in
North
America,
and
it's
tested
that
way
time
after
time.
One
of
the
things
that
that
I
personally
find
frustrating
is
when
visitors
come
to
Ottawa
and
they
stay
in
our
hotels.
H
One
of
the
first
things
you
see
when
you
walk
into
the
hotel
room
is
bottled
water.
You
know,
courtesy
of
whatever
hotel
enjoy
yourself.
Have
we
ever
done
any
kind
of
outreach
with
the
the
tourism
industry
to,
for
example,
work
up
a
program
that,
instead
of
a
water,
bottle,
there's
something
like
this
there
with
a
sign
that
says:
Ottawa
water,
the
best
in
North,
America
and
joy,
fill
fill
up
and
again
I.
Guess
it's
a
little
bit
out
of
the
support,
but
it's
it's
something
that
could
even
be
it
I.
C
Mr.
chair,
we
were
aware
a
number
of
years
ago,
where
Weston
hotel
actually
had
little
cars
saying
you
know
we
don't
we
don't
provide
bottled
water.
Our
city
delivers
a
excellent
excellent
drinking
water,
and
so
we
were
really
pleased
to
see
that
some
hotels
do
take
a
bit
of
a
leadership
approach
but
I
think
part
of
our
outreach
and
looking
at
ways
of
promoting
that
I.
Think
it's
a
good
suggestion
for
us
to
take
that
back
and
do
some
outreach
with
the
hotels
to
understand.
Do
they
have
water
quality
concerns
within
the
building,
as
mr.
H
Appreciate,
may
we
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
offline,
because
I
think
that
that's
a
little
hanging
fruit
that
we
might
be
able
to
take
advantage
of-
and
you
know
this
is
clearly
within
our
jurisdiction-
what
my
colleague
is
brought
forward
and
it's
a
great
idea,
but
that's
part
of
the
puzzle.
The
puzzle
is
much
bigger
than
that.
There's
a
lot
of
moving
parts
and
the
more
partners
we
can
bring
on
to
reducing
the
the
single-use
plastics,
the
better
we're
going
to
be
so
maybe
we
can
talk
a
little
bit
later.
Thank
you.
A
F
F
One
thing
that's
important
is
is
government's
acting
and
so,
in
this
case
we're
acting
internally
in
the
City
of
Ottawa.
But
of
course
the
bigger
challenge
exists
outside
of
our
walls,
and
so
maybe
you
could
walk
for
the
sake
of
the
gallery
and
everyone
else
is
walk
through
the
the
process
for
our
review
of
plastics,
single-use
plastics
foam
other
containers,
the
past
council.
The
past
committee
had
had
a
motion
that
came
forward.
F
K
K
We
will
be
seeking
approval
for
the
scope
and
framework
of
that
roadmap
of
that
master
planning
process
and,
as
part
of
that
master
plan,
we'll
be
opening
the
door
to
all
policies,
ideas,
concepts,
tools
that
we
can
use
to
further
our
waste
diversion
objectives
within
the
city,
so
it'll
be
a
three-phased
approach
and
we
will
be
reporting
back
to
council
throughout
that
master
planning
process.
It
will
involve
public
engagement,
public
consultation,
public
outreach
and
and
we'll
look
at
all
options
and
then
report
back.
Okay,.
F
So
you're
incorporating
the
motion
that
was
passed
previously
into
the
solid
waste
master
plan
discussions
that
will
go
on
that's
good
to
hear
because
I
think
you
know
some
producers
are
acting
on
their
own.
Some
facilities
are
acting
on
their
own
I
just
spoke
with
Oh
sake
and
Lansdowne
and
they're
going
to
be
eliminating
plastic
straws.
It
looks
like
from
some
of
their
facilities,
but
it's
only
so
much
that
they
do.
Unless
governments
act
and
say
you
need
to
do
these
sorts
of
things.
I
You
thank
you,
chair,
I,
do
want
to
also
just
take
a
quick
minute
to
thank
the
folks
that
came
out
today
from
Osage
and
and
others
who
have
been.
You
know
talking
about
plastics
and
what
they're
doing
to
the
environment
and
the
the
energy
and
waste
that
it
cost
even
produce.
Plastics
and
I
know
that
for
a
long
time
it's
been
a
lonely
discussion,
so
I
do
I.
Do
thank
you
for
your
persistence
and
for
being
here.
I
Do
you
want
to
thank
the
chair
for
his
leadership
on
this
I've
worked
with
him
over
the
last
couple
of
weeks
to
get
this
motion
on
up
for
debate
here
today
and
to
my
my
colleagues
for
all
of
your
questions
and
and
to
staff,
of
course,
and
of
course,
for
the
the
water
bottles,
which
were
a
nice
nice
surprise.
This
morning,
I
once
belonged
to
a
book
club
I
only
went
twice
but
and
I
quit
not
only
once,
but
one
of
the
books
that
they
that
they
suggested
reading
was
you're,
not
sick.
I
You
just
dehydrated
and
I
kind
of
laughed
at
the
woman
who
brought
it
up,
but
hope
she's,
not
here,
and
but
it
was.
It
was
interesting
because
from
that
moment
on
I
realize
just
you
know
what
you
know,
what
the
role
that
water
plays
a
in
our
in
our
lives
in
our
everyday
lives
and-
and
it
is
often
true-
you
know-
if
you're
not
feeling
great.
I
You
know
I
went
through
the
first
at
least
half
of
my
life,
not
really
thinking
about
water
and
thinking
about
you
know,
I
guess:
I
drank
it
when
I
needed
to,
and
now
we
really
are
kind
of
stuck
on
having
water
bottles
with
us
and
and
and
ensuring
that
we
are
drinking
enough
water
and
I.
Don't
think
that's
a
bad
thing!
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
a
good
thing.
There's
nothing!
Water
is
good
for
you,
but
you
know
it
when
it
took
that
extra
step.
I
It's
about.
You
know
examining
the
the
feasibility
to
to
eliminate
all
you
know,
discretionary,
single-use
plastic
and
foam
plastics
as
well.
I
think
that
you
know
people
want
to
be
able
to
come
to
our
city
facilities
and
expect
that
you
know
they're
not
using
foam,
for
you
know,
events
that
we're
not.
We
don't
have
water
bottles
or
selling
water
bottles
unnecessarily
outside
of
our
you
know,
hockey,
rinks
or
any
of
our
in
any
of
our
facilities,
and
it's
you
know
it,
but
it
also
is
about
making
sure
that
we
do.
I
We've
touched
upon
this
and
I.
Thank
my
colleagues
for
this.
The
public
education
piece,
cuz
I
know
we
have
a
dedicated
staff
person,
but
the
actual
amount
of
money
that
we
spend
on
our
education,
public
education
program
is,
is
you
know,
I
think
it's
like
point:
zero,
zero,
zero
one
percent
of
our
overall
budget,
and
we
can
do
a
little
bit
better,
so
I'm
here
arguing
for
a
little
bit
more
money
for
you
as
well
that'll.
I
You
know
that's
for
a
different
day,
but
but
we
really
do
we
really
have
to
make
the
effort
to
let
people
know
that
we
have.
You
know
the
the
best
drinking
water
that
you
can
get
and
that
it's
it's
actually
healthier
for
you
and
and
as
a
city,
we
have
to
take
pride
in
that
so
I.
Thank
you
all
for
for
the
discussion
today
and
and
look
forward
to
to
moving
forward
on
this.
Thank
you.
A
A
My
wife
was
was
big
on
chewing
ice
ships
leading
up
to
you
and
after
the
birth
of
our
son.
But
every
time
I
went
to
get
a
cup,
it's
just
a
stack
of
styrofoam
cups
next
to
the
ice
machine
at
the
hospital.
It's
just
something
as
simple
as
that.
Likewise,
that's
that's
what
they
have
there
and
then
just
with
the
every
time
I
had
to
get
this
this.
This
mangled
finger
that
I
have
changed.
It's
a
constant.
It's
a
constant
waste
that
everything's,
it's
all
single
you
stuff.
A
It
has
to
be
there's
medical
issues,
there's
different
things,
but
that's
to
your
point
is
that
is
that
there
are
exceptions,
but
the
industry
also
needs
to
whatever
industry
also
needs
to
look
at.
How
can
we
best,
you
know,
address
those
exceptions,
those
even
the
sanitary
issues,
but
not
create
so
much
extra
waste.