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A
Good
morning,
Evan
mausoleums
inertia
the
other
new
Iranian
committees,
committees
along
the
Illinois
deportation
climatic,
the
DS,
Maguire
demean
disease.
Welcome
to
the
native
environment,
climate
protection
committee
for
19th
of
June
2018
we
have
quorum.
I
would
like
to
go
through
the
consent
agenda
first
and
I'm,
going
to
propose
a
few
changes
to
it.
A
For
starters,
do
we
have
any
declarations
of
interest,
seeing
none
confirmation
of
minutes
for
Tuesday
the
15th
of
May
2018
those
received
carried?
Thank
you
item.
1
energy
evolution,
Otto
s,
community
energy
transition
strategy,
phase,
2
update.
We
do
have
a
presentation
on
that
and
as
well
as
delegation,
so
we
will
hold
that
one
item
to
2017
drinking
water
quality
management
system,
annual
management
review
report
we
received
perfect
marks
again.
Does
anyone
wish
to
ask
questions
are
not
at
a
Holmen.
B
A
A
We
then
have
an
information
previously
distributed
IPD
proposed
corporate
greenhouse
gas
emissions
reduction
target.
I
would
like
to
lift
that
item
on
to
the
agenda
and
I've
asked
Steve
Willis
to
be
able
to
answer
some
questions
on
specifically
and
given
that
he
had
a
previous
commitment
he's
been
called
out
of
he's
agreed
to
be
here
if
we
could
move
that
to
put
this
onto
the
agenda
and
move
it
to
the
start
of
the
agenda,
if
that's
agreeable,
I
guess,
first
of
all,
I
need
to
get
motion.
A
Pursuant
to
subsection
89
three
of
procedure,
bylaw
2016,
377,
that
the
environment
climate
protection
committee
approved
that
the
rules
of
procedure
be
waived
to
allow
for
the
consideration
of
the
item
list
that
is
IPD
a
proposed
corporate
greenhouse
gas
emission
reductions
target.
Is
that
carry
few
general
yes
and
then
we
we
also
have
to
so.
We
will
deal
with
that
up
front,
but
we
have
two
motions
which
require
a
procedural
move
here.
One
was
the
yes
okay,
the
letter
regarding
landfills
that
got
considerable
discussion
at
Council
and
then
was
referred
back
to
committee.
C
A
D
Thank
You
mr.
chair
where's.
This
is
the
last
meeting
of
the
committee
before
the
summer.
Legislative
break,
therefore
be
resolved
with
the
Environment
and
climate
protection
committee
approved
the
addition
of
this
item
for
consideration
at
today's
meeting
pursuant
to
subsection
89
three
of
the
procedure:
bylaw
2016
3,
7
7
and
the
the
issue
is
requesting
to
initiate
formal
consultation
with
special
events,
organizers
regarding
the
introduction
of
the
requirement
to
provide
recycling
an
organic
waste
collection
at
all
special
events
having
an
expected
attendance
of
at
least
500
participants.
A
Thank
you
little
more
changes
of
agenda
than
normal,
but
that's
fine,
so
what
we
then
have
in
front
of
us.
We
will
go
straight
to
the
the
lifted
IPD
item
then
or
through
the
agenda
in
order
and
then
take
those
two
new
items
that
have
been
added
in
the
order
in
which
they
were
or
read
will
do
the
letter
first
and
then
the
recycling,
organic
sub,
festivals,
all
right,
I,
think
I
follow
that,
okay.
A
A
A
So
my
questions
for
you,
mr.
Willis,
we
have
been
through
our
carbon
six
one
three
membership.
It's
expected
that
we
have
a
corporate
greenhouse
gas
reduction
target,
a
short-term
one.
We
already
have
our
80
percent
reduction
by
2050,
which
is
a
fairly
standard
target
across
the
country.
Even
my
concern
and
I
absolutely
support
that.
We
move
forward
with
the
target
that
is
being
proposed
here,
but
the
question
would
be:
why
is
it
necessary?
Is
it
necessary?
Can
we
not
move
that
target
right
here
today.
B
Mr.
chair
I
think
there's
no
barrier
the
committee
moving
the
target
should
it
accept
it.
I
mean
we've
already
councils
already
made
a
commitment
to
have
a
long
term
target,
as
well
as
a
short-term
target.
We
were
directed
to
benchmark
a
short
term
target.
We've
done
that
recommendation
in
the
IPD
memo.
A
A
A
Right
so,
if
I
interpret
that
we
can
in
fact
adopted,
but
a
future
council
could
choose
to
overturn
it
all
right.
Okay,
that's
useful
one
item
that's
raised
here
is
that
this
city
is
supposed
to
be
carrying
out
an
inventory
of
its
greenhouse
gas
emissions
new
already,
we
only
report
every
four
years
as
a
city
which
some
consider
to
sporadically
or
occasionally
to
get
the
real
understanding
of
how
well
we're
doing
on
a
progress
if
we
only
know
every
four
years,
but
furthermore,
it
looks
like
that's
now
going
to
go
into
2019.
A
This
report
tells
us
that
a
consulting
firm
has
been
hired
to
do
that
work
for
us.
If
I
understand
correctly,
to
re-establish
our
or
perhaps
get
more
accurate
baseline
numbers
here.
Could
you
explain
the
rationale
for
I
guess
going
outside
for
that
advice?
In
the
first
place,
do
we
not
have
staff
resources
sufficient
to
do
that
work
and
then
why
that
long
time
lag
in
a
sense
failing
to
meet
our
for
your
reporting.
B
So
mr.
chair,
we
were
beginning
the
process
of
replicating
a
previous
review
of
the
inventory
based
on
the
methodology
we
use
before.
But
at
the
time
we
retired
retained
SSG
to
do
the
work
for
the
energy
evolution
Phase
two.
We
learned
that
they
an
updated
version
of
their
modeling
system
for
the
City
of
Toronto,
and
we
have
asked
that
we
take
a
look
at
a
modeling
methodology
in
light
of
how
other
municipalities
were
actually
doing
this
and
we
thought
that
they
added
value.
B
If
we
could
look
at
the
methodology
through
the
work
that
they
did
plus
it
would
be
actually
unhelpful
if
we
had
done
a
staff
projection
arrived
at
one
method
through
one
methodology
and
arrived
at
one
number
and
they
through
energy
evolution
phase
two
had
arrived
at
a
different
number.
We
thought
it
was
prudent
for
the
sake
of
a
few
months
to
get
one
consultant
doing
at
one
way
in
establishing
an
updated
methodology
for
us
for
the
future.
So
we
felt
it
was
an
actually
good
use
of
resources.
He'll,
be
it's
a
few
months
delay.
B
A
How
about
going
forward
then,
where
what
seems
to
me
now
we
don't
have
staff
capable
of
with
expertise
in
in
absolutely
everything,
because
some
fields
require
an
expert
that
you
wouldn't
normally
have
a
staff
person.
You
know
capable
of
doing
that
on
as
a
full-time
employee.
Is
this
a
field
where
would
make
sense
to
go
out
to
a
consultant
each
time
we're
supposed
to
reporters
is
something
we
should
be
nurturing.
If
you
will
be
in-house
capability
to
do
it.
B
A
A
That's
very
important,
as
you
know
more
scene,
to
the
public
who
do
watch
these
issues.
Not
everyone
does,
but
to
those
who
do
to
be
slipping
without
without
question
in
one
area
is
we
are
the
Federation
of
Canadian
Municipalities
partners
for
climate
protection?
We
are
also
a
member
of
the
Global
Covenant
of
Mayors.
Have
we
submitted
our
emissions
and
climate
change
hazard
report
to
the
Global
Covenant
of
Mayors,
yet.
A
I
am
gathering,
there
is
no
penalty
for
late
reporting
in
this
case
or
anything.
So
it's
just
me
may
not
look
good
on
the
city,
but
otherwise
it's
a
voluntary
membership,
all
right,
so
Lister
care,
while
I
and
I
think
a
lot
of
other
people
in
encourage
that
we
be
on
time
with
our
report
cards
at
least
there
won't
be
a
penalty
for
that.
A
Finally,
from
now,
as
you
see
my
line
of
questioning
around
staff
resources,
this
is
something
that
came
up
when
we
had
our
energy
evolution
debate
and
pasture
phase.
One
of
that
of
that
plan
has
there
been
any
progress
in
terms
of
developing
more
staff
resources
to
support
our
if
energy
evolution
and
air
quality
and
climate
change
management
plan
are
almost
interchangeable
for
a
lot
of
us
they're
targeting
the
same
sort
of
energy
efficiency
and
conservation
and
renewable
energy
work.
A
B
There
are
two
parts
to
that.
One
is
is
that
we
are
leveraging
an
interdepartmental
working
group
and
providing
additional
capability
and
other
groups.
For
example,
a
finance
department
is
getting
much
more
involved
in
measuring
and
monitoring
our
energy
usage.
So
they've
devoted
Ischl
additional
staff
time
from
existing
resources
to
support
that
in
our
own
department,
planning
infrastructure
and
economic
development,
we
intend
to
create
a
new
position.
We
will
be
creating
one
new
position
to
support
this.
A
So
at
worst,
we
would
need
to
push
for
that
to
be
as
counselors.
The
hut
would
need
to
push
for
that
to
be
included
in
me
in
the
budget,
if
staff
have
not
already
done
that,
but
is
there
a
possibility
that
that
the
funding
said
mechanism
for
finding
that
funding
any
other
way?
Then,
through
voting
a
new
budget
item
for
at.
B
This
point
in
time,
if
we
had,
if
we
were
able
to
do
some
reclassifications
of
positions
within
the
department
as
a
result
of
staff,
departures
and
openings,
we
might
be
able
to
free
up
the
budget
room
within
our
existing
budget
to
top
up
the
budget
we
have
for
the
FT.
We
have
to
make
it
happen
during
this
fiscal
year
and
that's
what
we're
going
to
try
to
do.
B
A
D
D
A
Is
the
last
committee
meeting
prior
to
our
council
break
it's
to
be
determined,
so
whether
one
is
held
during
the
well?
It's
it's
likely.
There
would
be
one
in
the
calendar
year,
yes
or
whether,
whether
it's
prior,
whether
it's
part
whether
the
eight
September
eighteenth
one
happens,
based
on
whether
there's
substantial
items
and
as
everybody
knows
it's
in
the
middle
of
an
election
period
with
a
whole
variety
of
restrictions.
So
that
remains
to
be
determined,
but
there
will
be
at
least
one
in
this
County.
Okay,
that.
D
B
So
mr.
chariot
essence
she's
been
retired
retained
for
energy
evolution
and
an
updated
greenhouse
gas
inventory.
So
it's
separate
from
the
EQ
CMP
update.
We
will
be
reporting
on
a
QC
CMP
update
in
the
beginning
of
2019
as
planned.
It's
just
our
greenhouse
gas
inventory,
update,
which
we'd
hoped
would
be
towards
the
tail
end
of
the
summer,
is
going
to
take
a
few
more
months
to
get
done
because
of
the
retaining
SSgt
and.
D
The
benefit
of
keeping
on
track
for
this
report
is
that
it
will
inform
the
next
council
before
they
identify
their
strategic
priorities.
They
need
to
have
that
information
so
were
scheduled
for
that,
and
just
a
request
from
some
environment
groups
in
my
ward
is
about
the
frequency
of
GHG
emissions
reductions,
the
type
of
energy
use
that
is
being
used
in
the
city
and
the
availability
of
data
they're,
an
intent
to
make
this
information
available
on
an
annual
basis.
B
Mr.
chary
I
hear
the
remarks
last
time
at
this
time
about
increasing
the
frequency.
While
we
maintain
that
many
municipalities
use
the
four-year
cycle,
we
believe
this
new
methodology
will
make
it
easier
for
us
to
collect
the
data
and
I
think
we
are
examining
a
two-year
frequency
of
this
to
address
the
concerns
that
we've
heard
and.
D
I
think
we
all
agree
that
getting
data
every
four
years.
If,
if
the
committee
wants
to
tweak
its
direction,
wants
to
react
to
something
that
maybe
is
not
achieving
targets
that
we
need
data
much
more
frequently
than
every
four
years.
Finally,
will
there
be
specific
targets
for
departments
within
the
city
to
contribute
towards
that
GHG
reduction
target.
B
Mr.
chair,
as
I
understand
it
it's
more
organized
towards
emissions
sources
as
opposed
to
Department,
so
we
would
have
you
know:
vehicle
related
emissions
building
related
emissions,
those
sorts
of
things
of
the
way
it's
broken
down,
rather
than
on
a
department
by
department
basis,
which
is
an
easier
way
to
measure
in
monitor
as
well.
So.
B
Mr.
chair
altum
Utley,
the
our
department
is
responsible
for
coordinating
the
strategy
and
gathering
information
from
each
of
the
departments
and
reporting
to
committee.
Ultimately,
committees
or
committee
has
oversight
on
this
issue
and
the
broader
administration
of
the
city
is
responsible
for
implementing
the
plan.
Okay,
Thank.
G
Thank
You,
chair
I
suppose
that
it's
it
makes
sense
that
many
of
us
in
the
community,
when
this
table
are
skeptical,
that
we
are
going
to
reach
anywhere
near
our
targets.
We
didn't
in
the
past
and
the
fact
that
we're
not
reporting
out
every
four
years
raises
just
so
many
questions.
We,
you
know
approved
the
council.
The
last
council
approved
in
2014
the
air
quality
climate
change
management
plan.
B
So
mr.
chair,
we
do
know
that
the
phasing
out
of
coal
wobble
will
have
had
a
large
effect
on
a
number.
One
of
the
biggest
changes
that
will
be
going
forward
we
will
see
is
that
the
conversion
from
the
diesel
bus
fleet
to
electric
vehicles
on
the
light
rail
transit
system
will
be
one
of
the
next
big
milestones
that
will
cause
a
fairly
significant
change
in
those
numbers,
but
to
the
councillors
point
historic
in
the
last
number
of
years,
the
change
in
the
electricity
supply
itself
has
been
a
big
contributor.
B
Charrington,
it's
a
fair,
characterization
I.
Think
we've
done
in
a
number
of
different
areas.
A
number
of
energy
demand
management
practices
that
have
been
significant.
We've
done
work
in
the
street
lighting
program,
auto
Community
Housing
has
done
a
fair
bit
in
terms
of
energy
demand
management
in
their
portfolio
and
those
are
all
continuing.
I
accept
that
that
there
will
be
people
who
feel
that
we
could
have
done
more
and
more
areas,
and
that
is
not
without
saying
that
we
have
made
progress
in
number
areas.
We
have
room
to
do
more.
B
We
have
written
to
do
more
on
managing
energy
operations
of
this
of
this
of
this
city.
We
have
written
to
do
on
energy
management
and
in
buildings
and
energy
performance
and
buildings,
and
we
have
more
to
do
in
other
areas
in
terms
of
fleet
and
and
the
electrical
supply
which
related
the
transportation
system
as
well.
But
these
are
all
opportunities
we've
identified
for
the
future.
G
So
class
your
professional
opinion
and
if
we
don't
have
clear
targets-
and
we
aren't
especially
if
we
aren't
looking
at
today-
what
we've
achieved
and
and
we're
not
reporting
out,
how
do
we
know
that
we're
actually
moving
towards
our
targets
and
how
do
we
know
when
it
will
be
too
late
between
now
and
and
late
fall?
2018?
G
Is
there
a
point
where
we
can
say
honestly
that
we're
not
going
to
reach
our
targets?
We
haven't
had
the
reporting,
so
we
don't
know
we
don't
know
where
we're
at
anywhere
close,
but
probably
not.
But
my
concern
is
that
at
some
point
it
would
be
to
eight
we're
not
going
to
meet
them.
We
know
we're
not
going
to
meet
them,
but
we're
not
taking
the
actions
needed
to
meet
them
or
take
them
at
making
that
decision.
As
a
council
body
to
say,
look,
we
know
we're
close,
but
we
don't
have
that
information.
G
B
Chair
that
is
a
more
rhetorical
question,
but
perhaps
I
can
answer
it
in
the
way
councillor
brockington
just
framed
it
is
it.
We
are
doing
an
inventory.
We
will
report
this
year.
We
will
report
at
a
time
at
which
that
information
will
be
available
to
income
and
counsel
to
inform
it
on
its
priority
setting,
and
we
will
be
reporting
on
the
strategy
in
2019
and
it
should
counsel
decide
to
make
revisions
change
at
that
point,
there
will
be
an
opportunity
at
that
point.
H
G
B
Mr.
chair
I
think
in
the
context
of
the
term
its
council
strategic
priorities,
we
can
put
options
on
the
table
for
the
incoming
council
on
different
scenarios.
I
think
that's
the
appropriate
place
to
place
that
information
and
then,
at
from
the
process
of
looking
at
the
strategic
priorities
of
council
that
will
inform
the
budget
process
during
the
budget
process.
The
way
we
know
it
doesn't
present
the
options
methodology
that
the
term
council
strategic
priorities
does
thank.
G
You
and
that's
that's
a
problem
without
budgeting.
That's
not
your
problem
so,
but
I
do
appreciate
that
that
we
will
have
the
opportunity.
The
next
council
will
have
the
opportunity
to
the
tournament
council
priorities
to
make
that
decision,
whether
we're
going
to
abandon
our
targets
essentially
or
I,
do
everything
we
can
with
that
a
robust
plan
and
the
budgetary
requirements
to
actually
meet
those
targets.
So
I
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
very
much
mr.
chair
and
apologize.
If
some
of
these
questions
are
perhaps
redundant
or
history
lessons
for
somebody
for
myself,
can
you
recall
to
me
how
the
targets
were
established?
So
why
was
2012
chosen
as
the
target
date?
Was
this
recommendation
from
staff
so
experts
in
our
staff,
or
was
this
something
thrown
out
on
the
table
by
a
politician.
B
H
Chair
the
2012
based
on
mr.
Danner's,
that
was
the
year
that
we
had
the
most
robust
data
as
opposed
to
the
1990
baseline.
If
we
had
previously,
which
unfortunately
had
we
found
some
errors
in
that
baseline,
the
short-term
target
that
2012
by
2024
was
approved
as
part
of
the
air
quality
and
climate
change
management
plan
and
the
80%
by
2050
target
was
approved
by
a
motion
that
Catherine
so.
B
The
short
term
plan,
though,
was
recommended
by
experts
as
part
of
the
staff
report
to
committee
and
counsel
at
the
time
that
effect.
Okay
is
the
this
is
a
corporate
plan,
so
this
is
not
to
account
for
all
individuals,
citizen
use
of
emissions,
etc
is
for
Ottawa
as
an
institution.
Okay-
and
we
include
police
slide
like
what's
the
breadth
of
what
we
include
in
that
mr.
H
B
B
And
so
you
know
I'm
thinking
about
it.
Since
2012
we've
built
three
new
rec
centers,
several
new
fire
stations,
several
new
outdoor
sporting
facilities
that
are
fully
wet
community,
centers,
I'm
sure
across
the
city
for
us
to
actually
have
a
reduction,
but
all
those
buildings
have
to
be
Net
Zero
and
then
we
will
have
had
to
renovate
old
buildings
to
reduce.
On
top
of
that,
right
am
I,
am
I
wrong
in
my
kind
of
assumptions.
B
So
mr.
Jarrell
counselor
has
a
point
that
when
you
have
a
additional
facilities
of
adding
to
the
overall
inventory,
that
is
part
of
that
we
do
need
in
order
to
achieve
these
targets
to
find
efficiencies
in
other
areas
and
that
will
come
in
forms
of
changes
in
the
fleet.
As
I
said,
the
move
from
diesel
to
electric
in
terms
of
transit
will
be
a
big,
significant
change.
When
that
comes
in
play
later
this
year,
it
also
often
comes
from
building
renovations
and
changes
and
other
reductions
throughout
the
system.
B
Sure
I
appreciate
that,
but
I'm
guess
I'm
asking
do
our
targets
include
or
should
they
include
changes
to
account
for
growth,
because
all
of
our
new
buildings
are
not
Net
Zero,
like
many
of
them,
are
getting
LEED
standards,
but
no,
not
here
LEED,
Platinum
senators
are
most
aren't
and
they're,
certainly
not
Net
Zero.
So
how
do
we
actually
accommodate
for
two
to
three
percent
population
growth
and
reduce
emissions?
At
the
same
time
reduce
raw
data
emissions
I?
B
Think
mr.
chair
I
think
the
council
is
raising
an
interesting
point
of
a
point
about
how
you
would
report
absolute
GHG
emissions
and
GHG
emissions
on
a
per
capita
basis,
sort
of
some
measure
of
will
aid.
Your
growth
I
think
it's
a
fair
question
and
that's
something
we
should
ask
the
consultants
to
assist
us
and
see
what
their
recommendations
on
how
we
do
it.
So
we
could
present
both
pieces
of
data.
I
mean
I.
Think
the
global
objective
is
the
communities
in
general,
reducing
the
amount
of
GHGs
emitting,
but
in
a
growth
context.
B
That
is
a
bit
of
a
challenge.
Horse
no
I,
appreciate
I
think
would
be
helpful
to
get
them
in
both
because
if,
if
the
goal
is
to
achieve
it
on
a
baseline
level
that
every
new
building
has
to
be
Net
Zero
right,
because
we
can't
possibly
increase
emissions
and
find
enough
renovations
in
our
buildings
to
decrease
like
it's
in
Pollock,
you
know
unless
you
got
a
tree,
that's
printing
money
somewhere,
it's
just
not
going
to
happen.
So
what
is
the
other
than
science
has
changed?
And
data
capability
has
changed.
B
B
So
one
of
the
things
that
has
happened
the
last
number
of
years
mr.
chair,
is
that
the
data
is
becoming
easier
to
get.
It
used
to
be
a
very
laborious
manual
process
to
get
it.
One
of
the
pieces
that
we're
doing
internally
is
the
finance
department
is
starting
to
consolidate
the
staff
who
are
actually
tracking
energy,
related
expenditures,
money
on
electricity
payments,
natural
gas,
the
diesel,
another
propane,
all
those
other
sorts
of
emissions,
we're
actually
getting
better
data
into
our
own.
B
B
B
B
In
a
staff
report,
we
have
financial
implications,
legal
implications,
I
thought
there
was
an
environmental
implication
sessions,
perhaps
I'm
wrong,
but
would
it
be
valuable
for
things
that
we
know
are
going
to
change
greenhouse
gas
emissions
to
have
an
item
within
the
report
articulating
that
so
we're
approving
a
new
ex-senator?
This
is
how
it's
going
to
change
ghgs
we're
approving
the
purchase
of
27
new
ambulances.
This
is
how
it's
going
to
change,
ghd's,
etc.
B
A
Thank
you
and
that's
a
very
interesting
point:
you're
a
counselor
Blair,
that's
something
that
some
cities
do
perhaps
not
a
lot
where
it's
quite
standard
that
there
would
be
greenhouse
gas
implication,
emissions
implications
of
any
major
policy
decision
or
purchase
or
that
sort
of
thing.
So,
while
that
isn't
something
that's
within
our
mandate
to
approve
today,
it's
certainly
something
we
should
be
thinking
about.
A
B
You,
chair
and
I
would
just
preface
it
by
noting
councillor
Blea
is
asked
the
same
question
that
I
have,
which
is
the
absolute
versus
relative
increase
in
greenhouse
gases,
but
what
I
think
is
important
to
notice
that
be.
The
climate
itself
has
thresholds
at
which
once
we
reach
the
temperatures
rise,
and
we
cannot
make
the
assumption
that
we
can
continue
down
a
status
quo
path.
If
we,
if
we
don't,
have
some
fundamentally
big
changes
in
the
amount
of
emissions
that
were
putting
out,
we
are
as
a
going
to
reach
those
thresholds.
B
We
cannot
make
the
assumption
that
we
can
just
leave
things
the
status
quo.
We
have
to
actually
do
an
absolute
reduction
in
the
number
of
greenhouse
gases,
particularly
if
the
city
is
going
to
continue
to
grow.
I
think
the
denominator
is
critical.
I
have
heard,
and
I
chatted
with
a
few
colleagues
around
the
table
this
afternoon,
that
there
is
an
appetite
to
do
this
before
the
next
term
of
Council,
and
so
I
would
like
to
put
a
motion
on
the
floor.
Mr.
B
chair
that,
whereas
it
is
the
stated
intention
of
staff
to
recommend
as
part
of
the
2019,
a
QC
cm
review,
GHD
reduction,
target
of
20
percent
below
2012
baseline
levels
and
whereas
the
proposed
20
percent
target
is
consistent
with
the
Federation
of
Canadian
Municipalities
partners
for
climate
protection
programs
recommended
target
setting
and
the
targets
of
other
comparable
Canadian
Municipalities,
whereas
the
proposed
2012
baseline
but
aligned
with
the
council,
approved
short
and
long
term.
Community
GHG
emission
reduction
target
and
whereas
the
proposed
2024
end
date
would
align
with
the
council,
approved
short-term
GHG
reductions.
B
A
Thank
you
if
we
have
no
further
questions
for
staff
on
this
item,
particularly
mr.
Willis,
who
I
committed
to
trying
to
get
out
the
door
back
to
where
he
was
supposed
to
be
as
soon
as
possible.
If
that's
acceptable,
I'm
think
I'm
sure
it's
for
coming
and
then
we
can
carry
on
perceiving
this
and
potentially
and
debating
the
motion.
That's
in
front
of
us,
so
we
do
have
a
motion.
I
saw
no
other
further
speakers,
certainly
to
asking
questions
at
this
point.
Would
anyone
like
to
speak
to
Council
leapers
motion?
A
Okay,
seeing
none
I
would
speak
briefly,
then
that
it
seems
only
logical.
This
is
on
the
downside.
This
isn't
making
the
city
any
more
ambitious.
Cinna
currently
is
because
we've
already
adopted
an
80%
by
2050
target.
This
is
simply
setting
an
interim
target
which
we
did
commit
to
when
we
joined
urban
six
one
three.
A
All
members
of
that
group
have
set
their
own,
whether
the
banks
or
stores
or
even
the
bed-and-breakfast
rate
denture
have
have
adopted
targets
and
the
city
was
was
beginning
to
stand
out
for
not
having
adopted
an
interim
or
a
shorter
term
target.
So
counselor
Libre
has
moved
that
we
do
adopt
that
it
is
I
would
say
on
the
curve
towards
where
we
have
already
committed
to
go
so
I
think
there's.
It
is
only
logical
that
would
that
we
approve
this
I
guess
we
motion
carried
okay,
all
right.
Thank
you
all
right.
A
We
now
move,
then
I
see
miss
Clark
to
say,
moved
in.
We
move
to
a
related
agenda.
Item
number
one
on
our
list,
which
is
energy
evolutional.
Finally,
no
it's
here
you
have
a
short
presentation
for
us,
so
we
could
start
by
by
going
to
the
presentation,
and
then
we
do
have
some
delegations
signed
up
for
this
I
would
to
take
this
moment
to
remind
anyone
who
is
in
the
audience
who
may
like
to
speak
to
to
this
item
and
has
not
already
registered.
Please
do
that.
E
You
mr.
chair
members
of
committee,
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
present
today
with
energy
evolution
phase
one
in
December
last
year
of
staff
war
were
asked
to
come
back
and
q2
of
this
year
to
report.
So
that's
why
I'm
here
today,
as
a
bit
of
a
refresher
from
phase
one,
this
vision
for
energy
evolution
was
created
by
the
sounding
board.
E
That
was
a
one
hundred
hundred
fifty
members
of
of
the
publicly
mainly
businesses
that
have
gotten
together
to
create
this
vision
for
Ottawa
I'm
mad
as
Otto's
a
a
thriving
city
powered
by
clean
renewable
energy,
and
there
was
a
three
pronged
approach
to
get
to
this
vision
on.
The
intention
was
to
reduce
energy
use
through
conservation
and
efficiency,
to
reduce
the
supply
of
renewable
energies
through
local
and
regional
production
and
to
prioritize
the
procurement
of
clean
renewable
energy.
That
is
the
basis
and
fundamental
arm
framework
for
division.
E
Also,
the
Celso
direction
to
to
do
this
project
required
that
the
look
at
the
current
state
of
energy
supply
and
demand
and
complete
a
baseline
analysis,
and
that
we
did
that
in
phase
one
that
also
directs
that
opportunities
the
assess
the
community
partners
for
renewable
energy
generation,
energy
conservation
and
energy
efficiency,
energy,
energy,
energy
generation
window
very
key.
We
also
addressed
in
phase
1,
so
that
mean
gives
us
two
component
pieces
for
the
space
for
efficiencies
and
conservation,
also
a
bit
of
a
liner.
E
It's
really
discussed
that
in
the
previous
IPD
item,
Council
in
2016
directed
a
target
for
Ottawa
and
it's
community
partners
to
reduce
GHG
emissions
below
2012
levels
are
80
percent
by
2050,
and
this
is
not
an
uncommon
targets
of
the
province.
The
federal
government
in
many
many
Canadian
cities
also
have
this
target.
E
With
the
approval
of
the
phase
1
energy
evolution
in
December,
there
were
33
actions
that
came
out
of
that.
All
of
those
those
projects
Nighy
are
underway
and
a
few
examples
of
the
the
more
I
find
interesting
ones,
high-profile
ones
that
anyway,
as
the
Community
Energy
Innovation
Fund,
which
fundaments
approved
by
council
last
year
for
$500,000,
we
receive
20
applications
for
this
fund.
It's
been
highly
successful
and
over
subscribe
to
the
value
being
over
for
those
applications,
a
staffer.
We
were
hearing
those
over
the
next
few
weeks
and
determine
who
how
this
this
funding
is.
E
Alabama
I'm
allocated
all
those
endless
staff
and
a
couple
of
community
partners.
We
listed
on
a
committee
to
determine
that
I
know.
Another
interesting
project
is
Godstone
Village.
Many
of
you
are
aware
of
this
project
and
they're
still
in
the
scoping
phase
out
in
the
community.
Housing
is
taking
charge
of
this
also
partnering
with
the
city
and
federal
governments
to
to
be
able
to
provide
a
mixed
income,
low
carbon
community,
so
that'll
that
could
possibly
on
a
district
energy
like
they
have
for
LED
lighting
insulated
to
a
much
higher
standard.
E
Some
of
the
are
elf
och
is
other
projects.
The
Clementine
house
that
we
built
two
passive
house
standards.
So
there
are
they
already
experienced
in
this
type
of
developments
and
have
opportunities
as
a
nonprofit
and
Housing
Corporation
to
also
get
funding
from
from
the
province
and
the
federal
government's
for
that
as
a
bonus
to
this
development.
It's
it's
a
growth
way,
so
real
in
densities
are
in
a
sky.
There's
a
lot
of
potential
for
high
density
at
this
location.
Being
an
LRT
stop
as
well.
E
Biogas
is
another
opportunity
for
city
facilities.
Planning
is
working
with
Public
Works
to
develop
a
biogas
optimization
study,
so
we
have
good
potential
to
use
biogas
acidity
facilities
and
and
through
that,
reduce
the
city's
GHG
emissions,
enhance
our
energy
security
and
also
support
our
world
biogas
producers
in
Ottawa.
E
Catalyst
projects:
this
was
in
2017
an
amount
of
$300,000
approved
by
council
for
projects,
seven
of
which
were
were
taken
through
from
start
to
finish
last
year,
when
each
of
them
had
the
opportunity
to
increase
energy
literacy
and
they
also
piloted
emerging
technologies
and
innovative
approaches
in
Ottawa.
Some
of
these
included
the
climate
wise
retrofit
project
och
is
tenant.
E
E
E
So
phase
two
event
of
your
evolution
will
address
primarily
energy
conservation
and
efficiency,
as
I
mentioned
before,
and
primarily
to
do
with
buildings,
transportation,
energy
storage
and
base
management.
All
we
know,
especially
that
transportation
in
buildings
account
almost
90%
of
Ottawa's
GHG
emissions,
so
they
will
be
scrutinized
very
closely:
we've
hired
SSG,
sustainable
sustainably
sustainability
solutions
group
and
what?
If
to
work
on
the
project
for
us
this
work,
these
tiers
worked
on
dozens
of
municipal
renewable
energy
strategies
across
Canada,
including
on
Turner's,
transform
team
project
and
markers
getting
to
zero
municipal
energy
plan.
E
So
they
will
be
a
be
very
helpful
to
have
them
on
board
with
us
one
key
piece
of
work
they
may
be
doing
once
they're
completed
the
phase,
1
phase,
2
pathways.
Studies
and
analysis
is
to
merge
phase
wanted
to
those
pieces
together
to
identify
one
or
two
alternative
scenarios
then
help
us
quantify
the
potential
impacts
associated
with
different
actions
and
approaches.
So
then
we
can
help
identify
and
prioritize
where
you
need
to
put
our
efforts.
E
Eight
pathways
will
be
studied
through
this
phase,
2
of
the
project,
the
first
minute,
the
Electra
of
transport
on
the
or
include
things
like
a
city,
buses,
school
buses,
service
vehicles,
inner-city
freights
and
our
light
truck
seats,
and
the
second
pathway
would
be
transportation
optimization.
So
we
look
at
the
mated
shift
according
to
the
transportation
in
the
next
time
highs,
and
there
will
be
a
consideration
all
with
vehicles.
E
7
will
include
a
look
at
energy
storage
and
demand
management
that
will
include
things
like
thermal
storage
managing
the
summer
in
winter
peaks,
electricity
storage
and
demand
management.
Also,
battery
storage
for
large
buildings
or
feeder
lies
local
demand
response
any
use
of
circle
service
base
made
for
thermal
so
that
just
to
make
that
what
it
will
not
look
at
is
energy
storage
on
transmission
or
sub
transmission
infrastructure,
energy
storage
for
emergency
backup
or
fuel
storage.
E
Besides
the
pathways
technical
workshops
using
the
developed
path
wave
as
well
as
the
consultant,
mount
modeling
will
be
used
to
go
out
the
short-term
and
medium-term
actions
for
the
strategy.
We
use
this
methodology
enough
things
one
and
it
was
very
successful,
working
with
our
community
partners
to
overcome
barriers
and
develop
partnerships
and
ultimately,
the
the
action
plan.
So
we'd
like
to
do
that
again.
E
Community
partners
are,
of
course,
vital
to
our
process,
and
that
includes
internal
and
external
working
groups.
The
internal
working
group
is
comprised
of
both
affected
city
departments.
On
the
exhale
okay
view
is
a
subset
of
subject
matter:
experts
from
the
sounding
board,
so
we've
got
the
technical
experts
around
the
table
to
discuss
how
the
plan
is
developing
all
the
different
documents,
products
developed
by
the
the
consultant
before
they
go.
E
E
So,
overall,
when
you
look
at
this
program,
we
hope
to
have
the
strategy
completed
by
June
of
next
year,
at
which
time
it
would
go
public,
we'll
go
set
online
for
comment
and
then
come
to
committing
September
or
October
next
year
is
our
objective
and
what's
next
right
now
we
have
our
consultants
working
on
data
gathering,
so
they
are
first
developing
a
summary
paper
on
the
modeling
methodology.
It'll
be
quite
a
technical
document
that
will
put
those
out
to
you,
our
working
groups
and
then
your
developer
business
is
planned.
E
Technical
paper
start
development
on
the
pathways.
The
technical
papers
from
the
fall
staff
will
start
developing
the
cafe
X
platform
or
our
sounding
board
in
working
groups.
So
it's
a
tighter,
easier
way
to
get
dispersed
information
to
people
that
we
need
to
get
feedback
from
staff
also
continue
working
on
the
phase,
one
actions
and
the
Hydra
dividend
surplus
projects
as
well.
The
eight
that
are
coming
out
of
that
and
then
we'll
can
also
be
approval
of
their
community
energy
improvement
fund
projects.
E
B
E
My
data
collection
is
primarily
focused
within
the
City
of
automated,
but
recognizing
that
how
we
implement
our
strategy
could
have
effects
on
adjacent
neighbors
and
adjacent
municipalities.
So
that
is
a
concern
and
consideration
and
they,
as
consultants
have
experienced
that
as
well.
So
we're
going
to
be
working
very
closely
with
them
to
see
if
there
are
certain
areas
that
do
affect
external,
you
know
our
neighbors
or
Ontario
did
we
have
to
look
a
bit
a
deeper
or
how
could
we
manage
that?
So
that
would
be
explained
through
that
process.
That.
B
E
A
A
If
there's
others
who
are
want
to
be
on
the
list,
please
to
sign
up
register
at
the
at
the
desk,
please
all
right,
Thank
You,
mr.
smart
I'm,
not
sure.
If
you've
appeared
before
committee
before
but
standard
procedure
is
you
have
five
minutes
to
to
speak,
and
then
members
of
the
committee
may
have
questions
for
you
afterwards.
Thank
you.
Please
go
ahead
and
press
the
button
in
front
of
your
microphone
should
go
red.
B
Yes,
good
morning,
my
name
is
Josie
law
and
the
old
town
residents
for
the
last
24
years,
and
counting
I
am
here
today
to
inform
this
committee
that
the
City
of
Ottawa,
knowingly
and
in
foot
complicity
allow
an
extra
two
million
cars
a
year
to
enter
the
city
and
pollute
the
environment
of
his
citizens
on
a
daily
basis.
That
is
over
8,000
curves
that
contribute
to
the
city's
growing
carbon
footprint
when
their
occupancy
ought
to
be
taking
public
transit.
B
Why
are
they
running
in
instead
of
taking
the
bus
because
they
have
access
to
cheap
little
parking
on
the
residential
properties?
This
situation
results
from
the
fact
that
city
management
stubbornly
refuses
to
enforce
his
own
bylaws
number
2008
250
Section,
54
55
1
in
100
that
private
sauce
practice,
namely
the
illegal
public
rental
of
parking
spaces
within
residential
areas
of
the
city.
Reference
appendix
a
this
information
kept
my
attention
further.
A
complaint
I
made
on
October
15
2010
to
the
city
in
my
counselor,
much
a
flurry
about
the
violation
that
the
previously
mentioned
sections.
B
This
was
confirmed
by
six
different
myths
for
forty's,
familiar
with
the
city
bylaws
and
enforcement,
and
also
confirm
in
an
Ottawa
Citizen
article
published
by
you,
atomy
or
March
9
2013
reference
appendix
B.
It
has
been
seven
long
years
since
my
original
complaint,
which
is
still
unresolved
to
this
day.
I
conducted
my
own
investigation
via
the
Access
to
Information
Act
of
the
City
of
Ottawa
and
Gatineau
records,
going
back
10
years
to
determine
if
these
vials
are
been
enforced
and
if
I
could
pinpoint
the
trend
in
regards
to
violations.
B
No
records
were
found
for
the
City
of
Ottawa
houses
for
the
city,
Ola
got
to
know
it
has
been
aggressively
and
successful,
enforcing
identical
bylaws
with
a
period
of
one
year,
other
than
30
illegal
parking
sites
were
identified
for
a
total
of
1020
parking
spaces.
This
enforcement
has
altered
in
211
charges,
which
29
cases
representing
108
charges
were
ruled
by
a
judge
generating
v
$1000
in
final
court
cost
in
so
doing
the
CTO
gadget.
Oh
he
made
it.
The
Cabot
put
printer
must
see.
A
Mr.
smart
I
do
need
to
remind
you
environment
and
climate
protection
committee
debating
the
evolution
plan
at
the
moment
you
do
appear
to
have
some
significant
concerns
and
some
complaints
about
bylaw
enforcement,
but
I
did
let
that
go,
but
the
city
of
Gatineau
has
nothing
to
do
with
what
we
are
today.
If
you
could
bring
this
back
to
our
quest
to
become
a
energy-efficient
city,
then
I
can
let
you
continue,
but
otherwise,
at
the
wrong
forum.
Well,.
B
A
B
A
B
In
Cydonia
city
again
delimited
the
covered
footprint
of
all
these
vehicles
that
follow
on
the
investigation
revealed
that
most
violators
were
not
using
public
transit
to
go
to
work
again.
My
question
here
is:
why
is
the
city,
water
law
and
discovered
footprint
to
take
place
on
this
totally
another
forcing
its
own
violence
does
not
have
the
mandate,
and
you
need
to
do
so,
does
not
have
their
total
imposes
on
violence.
B
Reference
Appendix
C
by
not
limiting
this
current
footprint
or
the
negative
repercussions
are
affecting
the
management
of
this
city,
where
between
11
and
14
million
dollars
being
lost
each
year,
which
is
transporting
weather
deficit
due
to
low
riding
ridership
at
least
8,000
users
a
day
and
of
the
mind
is
expected
weather
new
by
millions.
This
has
been
confirmed
by
councillor
Stephen
black
chair
of
OC
Transpo
in
Ottawa
Citizen
article
there
may
25th
to
reset
17.
B
Therefore,
first
quarter
of
2017
OC
transfer
on
the
shop
is
expected
revenue
by
3.9
million,
for
which
the
mobile
people
taking
the
transit
play
a
major
role
appendix
D.
This
country
has
a
power
to
them.
They
discovered
footprint
for
the
health
and
financial
benefit
of
all
all
our
citizens,
by
asking
questions
to
the
mayor
by
Councillor
maturity
and
councillor
die
and
Dean
chair
of
the
community
apathy
services
on
the
road
as
possibility.
The
enforcement
of
this
dialogue
falls
under
as
to
why
the
city
hasn't
been
deliberately
enforcing.
All
of
the
city's.
B
Only
bylaws
number
two
thousand
eight
to
15
allowing
discovered
footprint
to
persist,
and
this
over
the
last
10
years.
I
don't
mean
this
company
owner
arbitrarily
discard
by
information
as
people's
or
unreliable
without
first
checking
the
facts
presented
and
doing
your
own
investigation
as
I'm.
Confident
you
will
find
my
information
reliable,
important
or
like
to
inform
disk.
B
A
B
C
A
brief
comments:
you
said
some
featured
by
said
instead
of
you,
instead
of
pretty
off
this
package
of
nine
papers
to
each
one
of
us
because
you
seem
Elvis,
just
you
don't
mean
that
which
I
reduced.
That
paper
leaves
here
at
me
and
I,
know
you're
big
on
reducing
carbon
different.
So
hearing
DMS
is
big
massive
package.
Everything
here
could
just
easier
than
email
to
us.
I'm.
B
A
A
H
So,
on
the
occasion
of
the
energy
evolution
update,
as
this
term
of
council
is
coming
to
a
close
I
think
it's
a
good
time
to
ask
ourselves
and
council
some
questions
and
councillor
McKenney
in
her
earlier
comments
was
hinted
in
this
direction.
Also,
so
we
want
to
know:
are
we
on
track?
Are
we
on
track
to
meeting
our
greenhouse
gas
reduction
target?
Are
we
on
track
to
shift
into
a
lower
carbon
economy?
What
does
the
evidence
tell
us?
H
Did
Ottawa
emissions
go
up
or
down
over
this
term
of
counsel
that
you
have
been
good
enough
to
provide
your
local
leadership?
I.
Think
it'd
be
interesting
for
all
of
you
to
write
your
private
answer
on
a
piece
of
paper
and
compare
those
we
don't
have
time
for
that,
but
I
don't
think
it's
obvious
at
all.
What
the
answers
would
be
hello
trouble
with
this
clicker
many.
This
will
work
so
this
okay,
so
that
will
go
one
by
one.
All
right,
so
very
much
welcome
the
presentation
of
the
energy
evolution
strategy
update.
H
It's
excellent,
that
we
are
getting
more
detailed
information
on
how
the
catalyst
projects
are
doing
the
energy
evolution
phase,
one
actions
and
congratulations
to
staff
on
the
timely
launch
of
the
seed
fund,
which
we
expressed
some
concern
about
that
that
would
be
slow.
It's
been
fast
and
the
energy
evolution
Phase
two
plans
sound,
very
good,
and
it's
good
to
note
about
the
hydro
service
spending
plan
information
that
was
all
information
presented
and
for
this
agenda
item.
H
We
also
very
much
welcome
the
rollout
of
the
planned
energy
evolution
website,
which
will
be
a
webpage
of
the
City
of
Ottawa
they're
hoping
this
can
become
a
bit
of
an
Ottawa
Knowledge
Center,
where
we
can
then
continue
to
learn
about
the
lessons
learned
of
these
demonstration
and
pilot
projects,
because
it's
one
thing
to
have
these
little
projects.
It's
another
thing
for
all
of
us
to
then
benefit
and
learn
the
lessons.
H
However,
he
cannot
assume
that
just
because
we
have
an
impassive
list
of
small
demonstration
projects
and
adults
at
hoc
opportunities
that
have
been
seized,
that
this
will
be
enough
to
set
us
really
on
a
path
to
meet
the
target.
We
don't
currently
have
a
plan
that
will
get
us
to
the
target.
What
we
have
is
we
have
a
number
of
very
excellent
building
blocks
in
terms
of
strategy
work,
but
we
don't
have
a
plan.
So
in
this
context,
we
very
much
warmly
welcome
that.
H
The
energy,
the
ocean
Phase
two
consultants
will
also
work
on
a
more
robust,
modeling
and
assessment
tool
to
help
council
staff
and
community
partners
determine
where
to
prioritize
efforts
over
the
medium
and
long
term
and
in
the
detailed
reporting.
There's
also
mentioned
that
they
will
put
forward
a
longer-term
roadmap.
So
these
are
the
pieces
that
that
we
need
as
a
city
and
as
a
community
and-
and
we
are
very
very
pleased
that
these
big
pieces
haven't
been
dropped.
H
I'm
also
that
they
one
day
to
be
able
to
get
the
terms
of
reference
for
this
consultancy.
I
think
that
kind
of
information
would
be
useful
to
everyone.
We
also
welcome
the
state
major
engagement
in
education
strategy
that
staff
has
obviously
spent
quite
a
lot
of
time
on,
and
we
also
appreciate
this
that
note
that
city's
senior
management
is
now
engaged
on
this
climate
action
file.
That's
that's
really
a
good
sign.
H
We
have
three
concerns
and
I'm
very
happy
that
some
of
these
concerns
were
actually
discussed
in
the
earlier
discussion
on
the
agenda
item
which
initially
wasn't
on
the
agenda,
and
we
said
the
three
concerns
are
the
lack
of
out
of
our
emissions
reporting,
the
delay
in
spending
city,
corporate
emissions
target
and
timeliness,
the
risk
of
delay
of
deliveries
that
will
cause
confusion
and
a
poor
start
to
the
strategic
carriage
setting
of
the
next
tournament.
Pencil
I
have
three
slides
that
come
unpack.
H
These
concerns
a
bit
more
so
in
terms
of
carbon
emissions
reporting,
we
had
an
inventory
since
2012.
So
when
the
city
says
our
standard
is
every
four
years.
Well,
it's
now,
nearly
six
years
later,
if
I
come
the
simple
math
and
in
the
earlier
discussion
we
heard
that
the
consultants
would
have
the
information
by
later
this
year,
but
I'm
still
not
totally
clear
and
when
it
would
enter
the
public
domain,
but
I
think
it's
very
promising
that
the
work
is
now
getting
done
and
they
have
an
emissions
report.
H
I
think
it's
disappointing
for
us
counselors
that
over
your
atomic
counselor.
How
so
you
essentially
have
not
had
this
information,
so
you
don't
know
if
Ottawa's
emissions
are
going
up
or
down
during
your
watch.
The
second
concern
is
regarding
the
city
corporate
emissions
target.
So
thank
you
very
much
councilor,
leaping
for
introducing
the
motion
earlier
and
thank
you
to
this
committee
for
your
support.
H
I
would
like
to
add
very
related
to
this
that
if
you're
going
to
set
up
corporate
emissions
target
us
for
the
city,
it
would
be
very
useful
to
take
this
target
into
area
and
departmental
sub
targets
so
that
it's
clear
who
is
actually
responsible
for
managing
this.
The
whole
point
of
measuring
and
having
targets
is
so
that
we
will
then
get
traction
and
manage
things.
So
that
would
be
a
useful
thing.
H
The
other
interesting
in
the
context
of
the
corporate
emissions
is
that
the
City
of
Ottawa
already
produces
an
annual
report
on
this,
except
that
it's
not
in
the
public
domain,
except
that
you
probably
haven't
seen
this
report,
and
this
is
in
the
context
of
the
city
reporting
to
carbon
six
one
three.
So
again,
this
is
an
issue
of
at
a
governance
and
transparency.
H
The
third
concern
was
regarding
timeliness
and
thank
you
very
much
councillor
brockington
for
raising
those
issues
earlier,
there's
already
quite
a
lot
of
confusion
about
what
is
the
air
quality
and
climate
change
management
plan,
all
about
which
was
created
in
the
previous
term
of
Council
and
what's
energy
efficient,
all
about
which
was
created
in
your
current
term
of
Council.
So
to
finish,
the
reporting
on
the
a
QC
CMP
for
the
next
council
to
prevent
be
informed
is
really
critical
and
we've
had
a
lot
of
slippage
on
the
climate
change
file.
H
Things
have
taken
longer
than
anticipated
under
your
watch,
so
I
think
that
checking
up
on
that
to
make
sure
that
we
get
that
reporting
if
there,
the
January
Environment
Committee
meeting
is,
is
going
to
be
quite
important
and
just
because
Christmas
is
right
before
it.
That's
something
to
be
already
anticipated
right.
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
those
reports,
and
then
hopefully
we
can
have
an
excellent
strategic
priority
setting
exercise
next
spring.
Thank
you.
A
H
Okay,
so
at
the
Mait
last
year
around
their
budget
discussions
for
budget
2018,
there
was
a
side
discussion
that
the
surplus
of
dividends
that
Ottawa
hydro
pays
to
the
City
of
Ottawa.
The
precise
amount
wasn't
known
at
the
time,
but
it
is
anticipated
that
there
would
be
some
revenues
and
it
was
then
agreed
provisionally
that
if
there
were
revenues,
two-thirds
would
be
spent
on
potholes,
and
that
was
council
harder
and
moving
priorities
and
then
counselor
chana
chenko
was
able
to
earmark
one
third
of
those
revenues
for
energy
efficiency
and
renewable
energy
projects.
H
G
On
the
hydro
board,
but
the
actual
amount
would
be
of
notice
that
they're
going
to
make
the
report
to
Council
on
July
the
11th
believe
and
I
know
what
it
is
well
I
can't
mention
until
we
get
the
publicly
open
and
receptive
council
to
that
every
year,
then
outlets
to
determine
from
that
varies
a
lot.
This
up
there's
a
basement
on
which
they
have
put
in
the
budget.
It
may
go
over
that
there
may
be
times
more
going
under.
G
We
have
to
actually
find
extra
mega
paid
based
minimum,
so
can't
count
on
every
year
how
we're
going
to
have
it
in
a
couple
of
good
years,
and
then
you
see
it
going
down
soon
because
we're
putting
so
much
money
into
developing
your
Bible,
let
the
plants
which
are
helping
amethyst
Venus
gas
things,
but
it
takes
money
to
do
that,
but
I
think
the
prep
site.
The
chair
could
ask
a
few
questions
of
the
board
of
either
Otto
and
it
makes
presentation
that
will
look
back
to
clear
thanks.
D
Thank
You
mr.
chair,
thank
you
for
your
presentation
this
morning
and
just
one
question.
The
the
corporation's
contribution
to
ghgs
is
a
fraction
of
all
ghgs
in
the
city,
and
we
focused
on
what
the
corporation
itself
can
do
with
its
own
assets,
buildings
and
vehicles,
but
we
fall
miserably
short
in
I,
think
a
major
contributor
that
our
households
and
businesses
and
what
the
role
the
corporation
can
play
in
educating
the
public
on
how
to
make
modifications
to
their
residents
or
to
landlords
what
they
can
do.
A
lot
of
homes
that
are
older.
D
H
Well,
I
think
that
public
education,
it's
it's
a
struggle
right
sold
so,
for
example,
B.
We
get
regular
flyers
in
terms
of
what
to
include
in
our
green
bin
and
black
box,
and-
and
we
still
know
that,
there's
a
long
ways
to
go
into
now
in
terms
of
knowing
what
item
to
put
in
what
box.
So
a
lot
of
it
isn't
just
a
one-time
delivery
of
information,
and
then
you
can
say,
oh
on
February
16th,
we
sent
around
a
flyer
to
all
households
and
told
them
that
styrofoam
should
go
in
the
garbage.
H
That
doesn't
mean
that
the
public
all
gets
it.
So
I
think
that
the
public
education
campaigns
need,
to
be
repetitive,
varied
a
variety
of
strategy
to
reach
a
variety
of
types
of
household,
so
I
think.
Sometimes
we
need
to
be
doing
a
better
job
of
targeting
I.
Think
that
there's
an
excellent
amount
of
work
already
and
probably
eventually
funded
that's
played
on
to
either
gas
billing
and
the
Hydra
billing.
H
So
I
regularly
get
all
kinds
of
fancy
analysis
from
hydro
telling
me
that
you
know
my
phantom
power
usage
uses
56
dollars
per
month,
and
I
really
should
do
something
about
that.
So
there's
quite
a
lot
of
information,
but
I
think
that
we
need
to
be
have
a
greater
breadth
of
the
kind
of
engagement
points
to
educate
homeowners
or
educate,
tenants
or
educate
young
people
or
educate
and
disadvantaged
populations,
and
I.
H
Think
that
there's
a
big
carbon
lens
that
could
also
be
applied
to
other
different
kind
of
policy
points
where
the
city
touches
on
what
happens
in
the
housing
sector
say,
for
example,
if
developers
got
some
kind
of
a
rebate
for
have
a
net
carbon
ZL
buildings
and
exceeded
the
requirements
of
the
Ontario
Building
Code,
there's
nothing
prevented
a
city,
for
example,
to
provide
education
and
incentives
to
the
development
community.
You
say
that,
certainly
on
the
new
dating
front,
we
could
get
a
much
more
rapid
option.
H
A
C
Look
yes,
I
would
be
speaking
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
Ecology
Ottawa,
an
Ottawa
ottawa-based
environmental
organization
working
to
make
our
city
of
the
green
capital
of
Canada,
and
we
work
across
a
variety
of
issues
and
obviously,
climate
changes
is
a
foremost
concern
and
really
feeds
into
all
of
the
work
that
we
do.
I
just
wanted
to
say
a
few
things
this
morning
comment
on
the
on
the
update.
First
of
all,
we
do
support
the
motion.
We
like
the
idea
that
the
city
is
moving
ahead
with
some
of
these
some
of
these
important
projects.
C
C
So
you
know
there
are
some
there's
some
good
things
in
there.
You
know
the
city
and
some
of
its
actually
going
to
be
applauded
for
making
progress.
We
would
like
to
use
this
opportunity,
however,
to
draw
attention
to
some
areas
of
concern,
which
are
you
know,
some
of
the
ones
that
have
already
been
mentioned
by
it,
by
other
stakeholders
and
by
councillors.
C
You
know
the
the
agendas
of
air
quality
and
climate
change
management
plan,
as
well
as
energy
evolution,
a
lack
of
conceptual
clarity
and
a
risk
that
you
know,
as
we
know,
air
quality
and
climate
change
management
plank
in
an
elastomer,
Council
and
energy
evolution
in
this
one
that
those
that
those
two
concepts
will
be
inflated
in
future
terms
of
council
and
that
we'd
really
like
to
make
sure
that
there's
some
clarity
there
in
terms
of
the
distinct
plans.
Also
under
clarity,
you
know
we're
really
looking
forward
to
more
frequency
of
reporting.
C
There
was
a
discussion
earlier
today
we're
calling
for
annual
community-wide
reporting,
and
so
you
know,
we
do
think
the
the
step
towards
a
two-year
frequency
that
you
know
Steven
Willis
mentioned
earlier
today-
is
a
positive
step
forward
at
the
very
least,
is
better
than
what
currently
exists,
which
is
every
four
years
or
longer
we're
also.
You
know
in
terms
of
clarity.
Looking
for
you
know,
performance
measures
and
break
down
by
sector
and
again
this
is
something
that
was
discussed
earlier
today.
The
trick
is
to
get
it
rolled
out.
C
You
know
quickly
and
efficiently
on
the
transparency
front,
I
think
that
there's
just
a
broad
concern
about
the
degree
to
which
the
public
is
aware
of
these
things.
The
public
is
aware
of
the
risk
of
us
not
meeting
our
timelines,
and,
of
course,
you
know
the
city
is,
you
know,
rolled
out
a
community,
a
stakeholder
engagement
and
education
process.
We
hope
that
that
is,
that
is
a
strong
one
and
that
there's
more
public
facing
communications
from
the
city
that
that
really
highlight
the
urgency
of
this
problem
in
what
the
city
is
doing
the
tackle.
C
C
Finally,
we're
in
addition,
we're
concerned
with
the
energy
evolution
process
itself.
We
understand
that
you
know
it's
been
broken
into
two
phases
and
the
next
one
is
in
2019,
but
we
would
like
to
remind
the
committee
that
this
is
a
delay
from
the
previous
stated
target
of
having
the
the
clean
energy
strategy
released
by
2016,
so
we're
falling
back
there.
Finally,
I
would
like
to
draw
attention
to
the
fact
that
you
know,
although
it's
good,
that
you
know
19
of
22
actions
from
energy
evolution,
phase
1
have
been
started
or
under
underway.
C
We're
concerned
that
the
other
three
these
are.
These
are
actions
slated
for
2017
2018,
so
we
we
would
like
to
urge
you
know
the
city
to
initiate
those
other
three
actions
as
well
to
make
sure
that,
whereas
on
track
as
possible,
all
of
this
is
in
the
context
of
energy
evolution,
phase,
one
which
frames
the
action
and
portrays
a
variety
of
scenarios
and
states
that
only
an
aggressive
scenario
is
is
the
one
that
we
must
use
in
order
to
attain
our
climate
reduction
targets.
C
And
so
the
question
is
you
know
from
what
we're
seeing
is
this:
is
this
on
track
with
a
with
an
aggressive
scenario,
and
the
concern
is
that
that
increasingly,
it's
known,
especially
because
of
the
timelines
concern.
So
you
know
this
points
to
broader
questions
or
SAP
resources.
Sufficient
of
is
funding
sufficient.
How
do
you
make
sure
that
going
forward?
C
We
get
back
on
track
that
we
retain
that
we
fall
in
line
with
timelines
and
that
we
effectively
deliver
on
a
lot
of
the
good
ideas
that
are
contained
within
the
energy
evolution
report
and
finally,
I
guess
they're.
Just
the
final
point
to
add
is
that
all
obviously
this
hell
takes
on
a
different
tone
in
the
context
of
a
new
provincial
administration.
C
There's
a
broad
question
as
to
what
we're
going
to
do
energy
evolution
says
that
we
need
to
undergo
a
scenario
and
points
to
other
jurisdictions
and
the
apartment
that
they
that
they
also
wrap
up
ambition.
If
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
ambition
from
the
provincial
government,
will
we
sustain
or
increase
our
ambition
at
the
city
level?
Thank
you.
A
A
H
Little
bit
to
mr.
block
Linton's
question,
the
intent
part
of
the
issue
is
is
information,
but
I
also
think
that
when
you
people
are
doing
new
things
that
they
need
a
little
bit
of
assistance
and
I
understand
that
the
province
enables
municipalities
to
access
credit
and
municipalities
can
access
it
at
a
lower
cost,
and
this
could
be
made
available
to
homeowners
and
landlords
for
specific
upgrades
and
capital.
H
So
that
would
be
tied
to
the
house
and
would
go
to
the
house
and
when
it's,
when
it's
sold,
that
I'd
like
to
see
the
city
be
proactive
in
in
helping
people
to
move
forward
and
I.
Think
I'm,
not
sure
if
any
city
or
municipality
in
Ontario
is
taking
advantage
of
this.
One
legislator
that
the
province
has
put
forward,
but
I
think
it
would
be
interesting
way
of
moving
moving
things
forward.
H
So
I
was
really
interested
in
the
Phase
two
and
the
projects
that
are
moving
forward
and
that's
quite
exciting
to
see
but
I
think
in
spite
of
the
these
activities,
I
think
that
the
city
is
not
taking
climate
change
seriously.
It's
dragged
its
feet
for
years
and
it's
potential
resources
into
addressing
this
important
issue
and
I'm
concerned
that
that's
going
to
continue
unless
the
city
takes
some
action
to
put
things
back
on
track
and
to
up
its
game.
H
The
city
as
we've
all
talked
about
today,
is
not
produced
in
emissions
report
since
2012,
so
the
city
doesn't
know
the
emissions
are
going
up
down
or
sideways.
The
city
says
the
emissions
report
should
be
donated
before
years,
but
it's
not
even
meeting
minimal
target
and
I
think
this
is
an
example
that
really
highlights
that
it's
not
being
taken
seriously.
If
it's
within
one
term
of
council,
the
council
doesn't
even
understand
what's
happening,
it
can't
really
take
serious
action.
H
I
would
mention
that
students
in
school
are
graded
continuously
by
their
teachers,
and
then
that's
reported
three
times
a
year
to
the
parents
and
I
think
an
issue
of
climate
change
needs
this
sort
of
rigorous
a
page
with
the
minimum
of
annual
reporting
of
the
information
to
the
public,
and
not
just
that.
The
public
has
supposed
to
hear
that
the
reporting
has
been
done
and
the
City
of
Ottawa
is
a
member
of
the
Global
Compact
of
Mayors
and
it
hasn't
even
met
its
reporting
requirements
to
this
great
this.
H
So
we
know
the
energy
strategy
and
energy
evolution
strategy
and
air
quality
and
climate
change
management
plan,
D
all
important
things
to
have
been
done,
but
they've
Oh
being
understaffed,
under-resourced
and
they're
all
behind
on
their
deliverables.
These
the
energy
evolution
phase
and
the
projects
that
are
moving
forward,
their
building
blocks
an
important
but
they're,
not
a
plan,
they're,
not
a
pathway.
H
H
A
B
A
recent
study
from
the
City
of
Edmonton
shows
that
the
city
receives
twenty
nine
million
dollars
in
annual
benefits,
twenty
nine
million
dollars
in
annual
benefits
from
two
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
street
trees
in
the
city.
That's
a
calculation
based
on
the
US
Department
of
Agriculture
forestry
services,
methodology
for
calculating
energy
conserved
by
reduced
heating
costs
and
reduced
cooling
costs.
Trees
have
that
benefit
to
residents
and
to
the
public
at
large
of
reducing
those
costs,
as
well
as
reducing
heat
island
effects
well-known
in
cities.
B
So
those
types
of
benefits
that
are
present,
and
so
my
question
really
has
has
to
do
with
that
two
parts.
One
is:
why
has
does
the
strategy
not
consider
but
has
not
considered
landscape
and
trees
as
part
of
the
energy
transition
strategy,
the
enormous
benefits
that
can
come
from
reducing
energy
costs,
and
why
has
it
not
considered
the
declining
tree
inventory
in
the
context
of
the
greenhouse
gas
emissions
inventory
as
well.
A
Thank
you
very
much
if
that's
ended
your
presentation
and
do
have
any
questions
for
the
audition
now
seeing
none
that
you
do
raise
some
some
interesting
questions
which
we
will
make
a
point.
I
will
waster
and
others
may
want
to
make
a
point
of
asking
our
staff
exactly
where
and
if
and
where
that
green
infrastructure
is,
as
some
call
it,
you
refer
to
it
of
a
natural
spaces,
etc.
I'll
make
a
point
of
asking
that
question
to
staff
later,
but
councillor
Lieber.
Please
now
you.
B
It's
I'm
only
going
to
be
able
to
say
very
generally,
because
I
haven't
thought
about
it
enough
to
to
be
technical
about
my
about
how
it
might
be
reported,
but
certainly
you
know
any
kind
of
basic
economic
analysis.
One
looks
at
what
is
not
spent,
as
well
as
what
is
spent,
and
so
by
saving
energy
from
the
cooling
and
reduced
cooling
costs
and
reduce
heating
costs
from
an
asset
that
the
city
owns,
which
are
Street,
trees
and
other
trees
and
parts
etc.
B
B
But
it
seems
logical
to
me
to
see
as
part
and
parcel
of
that,
the
the
loss
of
things
that
are
preventing
those
emissions
from
going
even
higher
by
losing
the
green
infrastructure
in
the
city
that
that
could
be
connected
to
the
direct
measures
of
emissions
inventory
a
little
bit
vague.
But
this
is
for
staff
themselves
to
consider.
B
Certainly,
the
measures
that
we're
talking
about
in
the
urban
forest
management
plan
are
things
like
canopy
cover
and
the
inventory
of
trees
themselves
an
assessment
of
their
their
maturity,
because
we
know
that,
as
tree
goes
older,
its
GHG
benefits
increase
exponentially.
Those
would
be
some
of
the
measures
that
we'd
be
looking
at
putting
in
there
as
well.
B
It's
yes
and
so
connecting
the
urban
forest
management
plan
plan
to
the
energy
transition
strategy,
more
explicitly,
I
think
wood,
wood
may
for
a
more
comprehensive
and
coherent
approach
to
reducing
energy
costs
and
and
enhancing
energy
conservation,
and
the
city
can
can
play
an
important
role
in
that
because
of
its
large
asset
in
the
form
of
green
green
infrastructure.
Would
there
be
gaps?
Are
there
gaps
in
the
city's
measurements
of
what
we're
proposing
to
measure
on
trees
in
the
U
FMP
versus
what
would
be
required
to
measure?
B
If
we
wanted
to
understand
the
GHG
implications
of
our
urban
forests?
Are
there?
Are
there
measures
that
that
we're
not
going
to
do
as
part
of
our
UF
MP?
That
would
be
valuable
for
understanding
the
greenhouse
gas
implications
of
our
urban
forests
and
weather?
How
that's
contributing
to
overall
reduction
or
or
decrease
the
one
that
I
can
think
of
off
the
top
of
my
head
is
rate
of
loss
of
the
green
infrastructure.
We
will
have
hopefully
some
overall
assessment
of
baseline
of
the
but
little
information
on
the
past
and
no
clear.
B
So
the
question
is:
to
what
extent
can
we
measure
the
rate
of
loss
of
that
infrastructure,
because,
through
replacement
as
well
in
its
relationship
to
replacement
as
trees
are
removed,
we're
not
replacing
that
infrastructure
at
anywhere
near
the
the
rate
at
which
it's
lost,
so
the
relationship
between
replacement
and
loss?
It's
something
that
I
think
could
could
could
help.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Miss
focus.
That's
helpful
thanks,
sir.
A
Thank
you.
Seeing
no
other
questions.
Thank
you
for
calling
the
shoe
buckles
that
does
bring
us
the
end
of
our
public
delegation,
so
we'll
now
move
to
questions
for
staff
I
believe
we
had
just
started
down
that
list,
when
my
recall
by
should
have
gone
to
delegations,
I,
have
councillor
brockington
and
then
Blake
currently
on
the
list.
Please
let
me
know
if
you
wish
to
be
added.
D
Personal,
thank
you.
Your
report
I
appreciate
the
update
and
again
it
was,
in
my
opinion,
sort
of
corporation
focus,
so
I
just
wanted
to
ask
a
question,
but
I
asked
the
delegate
and
when
the
Harper
government
was
recently
elected,
one
of
the
things
that
to
spur
the
economy
and
to
address
a
number
of
issues
in
this
older
homes
was
to
provide
a
like
a
Tax,
Credit
renovation
tax
credit,
which
proved
to
be
very
popular
and
I.
D
Think
that
could
be
one
of
the
major
ways
to
to
get
people
to
invest
the
necessary
funds
to
upgrade
their
homes,
and
that's
just
one
example.
Can
you
just
remind
me
what
type
of
outreach
the
city
has
undertaken
with
our
residents
to
focus
on
their
own
homes,
their
own
buildings,
their
own
properties
and
I?
Don't
think
this
is
the
case,
but
there
been
any
formal
political
reach
with
the
other
levels
of
government
on
requesting
encouraging
them
to
consider
those
types
of
things:
tax
credits,
education
campaigns,
anything
to
get
people
moving
in
that
direction.
E
Mr.
chair,
we
have
not
yet
had
these
discussions
on
buildings
and
transportation.
Waste
management
and
building
storage
are
part
of
the
phase
two
components
of
this
plan.
Now
we're
aware
of
other
cities
that
have
done
these
lic
sees
these
kind
of
grants
to
homeowners
that
you
can
work
through
tax
solutions
and
such
the
Halifax
Toronto
you
could.
You
could
number
of
different
ways
that
other
cities
have
done
them.
E
So
you
know
we
will
be
looking
and
through
this
phase
two
as
to
what
you
know
what's
going
to
work
best
for
all,
because
we
don't
we
don't
know
yet
what
the
best
solutions
are
going
to
be
so
I
think
once
we
get
the
modeling
and
the
technical
papers
from
our
consultant,
we'll
have
a
very
much
clearer
idea
of
what's
possible
and
then,
through
our
technical
workshops,
go
through
the
barriers
constraints
and
how
we
can
move
some
actions
far
forward
and
I.
Think
that's
going
to
be
one
of
the
things
we'll
be
looking
at
so.
E
E
They,
the
energy
evolution,
is
probably
the
primary
tool.
I
think
we're
going
to
be
using
to
reduce
our
GHG
emissions
in
the
city,
because
there
are
so
many
component
pieces
sailing
actions
that
can
have
that
result
in
effective
lowering
emissions.
We've
seen
how
that's
laid
out
in
other
plans
on
the
new
Toronto.
They
can
use
other
cities,
it
is.
It
is
possible
and
the
there
is
an
adaptation
component
to
climate
change
as
well,
we're
starting
to
look
at
that
as
well.
E
E
We
are
doing
that
already
with
the
energy
component
of
it
with
the
phase
2.
We
are
at
a
closer
with
the
province
and
the
federal
governance
in
that
regard,
or
maybe
we'll
take
that
again
farther
with
our
cities
to
may
already
know
that
building
code
changes
that
are
happening,
then
let
cos
coming
by
2030
step
code
is
probably
coming
to
Ontario,
where
the
building
code
increases
every
few
years
as
a
requirement.
So
those
things
already
happening,
but
okay.
D
I'll
commit
to
me
with
you
over
the
summer.
I
do
think
this
committee
should
consider
for
meeting
again
in
September
and
if
provincial
and
federal
governments
you
know,
are
starting
their
budget
cycles
for
next
year
and
that
at
least
put
something
on
the
table.
I
do
think
there
are
some
opportunities
there,
where
the
provincial
and
federal
governments
can
provide
some
sort
of
financial
incentive,
far
greater
than
what
the
city
could
do,
and
we
really
we
don't
have
the
financial
capacity
to
do
that.
But
all
this
to
say
mr.
D
A
B
B
E
E
G
E
B
Do
fairly
quickly
chair,
the
mr.
buckles
has
challenged
us
to
think
about
the
energy
savings
associated
with
urban
tree
forest,
the
the
canopy,
the
the
the
benefits
that
those
have
is
that
we
in
our
energy
evolution
strategy
to
think
about
things
like
trying
to
preserve
our
tree
canopy
in
order
to
not
have
to
produce
energy
in
the
first
place,
because
it
has
those
conservation
benefits.
It's.
E
A
very
relevant
question,
certainly
because
it
trees
do
have
they
act
as
a
carbon
sink
and
then
do
cause
GHG
reductions
through
the
energy
evolution
strategy.
That's
probably
not
the
right
place
for
it,
but,
as
I've
mentioned
a
little
bit
earlier,
we
are
starting
to
look
at
adaptation
and
overall
resilience
for
the
city,
and
that
would
certainly
be
the
place
to
address
that
kind
of
I'm
concerned
and
we
are
working
on
a
canopy
cover
analysis
right
now.
E
Miss
South
America
doing
this
so
they're,
very
aware
of
energy
evolution
and
the
whole
GHG
considerations,
so
those
two
plants
in
or
energy
evolution
and
resilience.
We
really
need
to
establish
that
within
our
their
quality
climate
change
management
plan
outcomes.
When
you
do
the
five-year
review
for
next
year,
it.
B
Would
be
interesting
to
see
the
difference
in
energy
consumption
I
have
now
said
to
field
houses
in
Inca
City
of
similar
size.
One
is
tree
canopy
than
in
Champlain
Park
versus
some
that
are
just
out
there
baking
in
the
Sun.
It
would
be
interesting
to
find
out
what
the
difference
in
cost
for
running
those
are
and
whether
we
can
think
about
increasing
the
tree.
B
A
A
Resourcing
and
establishing
our
energy
evolution
plan
and
then
finding
funding
for
specific
projects
and
initiatives
and
I
think
we
would
all
like
to
be
further
forward
than
we
are
now,
but
we
are
making
progress
on
this.
It
is
clearly
established
as
a
priority
for
this
city
and
I'm
pleased
to
see
the
projects
now
rolling
out.
A
We
do,
however,
have
to
be
very
careful
about
fighting
for
more
funding.
To
be
to
be
blunt,
this
hydro
dividend
surplus
may
have
felt
like
it
dropped
from
the
sky.
It
didn't
really,
and
it
isn't
something
that
we
can
count
on
or
should
count
on.
That
is
a
bigger
and
perhaps
different
debate
than
we
can
be
having
here
to
environment,
climate
protection
committee.
A
But
what
it
does
mean
is
that
you're
going
to
have
to
we
in
the
future
Council
are
going
to
have
to
look
to
establish
a
quite
significant
base
funding
in
order
to
continue
to
make
progress.
Otherwise
it
really
will
be
these
small
and
n
piecemeal.
As
some
have
said,
projects
and
the
hydro
dividend
is
not
something
that
we
should
count
on
for
that
as
strategic
as
staff
have
tried
to
be
in
recommending
how
to
to
spend
that
dividend.
A
So
I
do
want
to
thank
staff
for
bringing
us
to
this
point
for
community
groups
and
individuals
of
of
all
kinds
who
have
continued
to
stay
with
the
city,
even
through
the
delays,
and
there
is
a
lot
of
work
to
do
very
important
work
to
do.
But
this
is
one
next
step
in
that
process.
I
am
very
much
looking
forward
to
the
engagement
with
this
consulting
group.
They
have
done
good
work
from
what
I've
seen
in
other
cities.
A
A
But
with
SSG
and
the
work
that's
going
to
be
done,
it
will
be
very
important
that
we
get
all
sectors
out
to
those
meetings
and
again
giving
us
their
best
ideas
and
being
part
of
this
set
this
partnership,
so
I
do
encourage
them
to
make
that
leap
of
faith
with
us.
One
more
time
on
this
item,
then,
is
this
report
received?
Thank
you
so,
moving
on
to
item
2,
councilor,
couch
I,
believe
you
had
questions
on
this
and
one
other
cancer
as
well.
I.
Think
so
please
go
ahead.
C
You,
chair
and,
first
of
all,
thank
you
to
staff
the
commitment
for
drinking
water
quality.
The
report
is
excellent.
It's
it's,
we
do
have
the
highest
highest
quality,
water
and
the
residents
of
the
city
should
be
very
proud
of
that.
One
of
the
items
that
is
is
the
level
of
nitrate
in
the
shadow
Ridge
communal.
Well,
what
is
the
source
of
that?
And
and
it's
it's
going
up,
it's
trending
up.
What
is
the
source
of
that
nitrate.
G
Mr.
chair
there's
there's
a
number
of
reasons:
why
there's
nitrates
in
groundwater?
It's
not
necessarily
an
uncommon
occurrence.
The
shadow
Ridge
source
wells
are
actually
in
a
shallower
aquifer,
and
so
it
is
much
more
subject
to
to
subsurface
or
over
the
surface
the
Infantry's,
but
these
like
septic
tanks,
agriculture
activity,
so
there's
a
number
of
different
sources
that
can
be
contributing
to
the
nitrates.
G
G
Would
be
what
is
going
on
above
the
surface
that
would
be
enemy,
we're
looking
at
agriculture
and
fertilizer
application,
and
you
also
have
well
septic
systems
which
are
longer
ground
as
well.
But
it's
closer
to
the
to
the
surface
is
where
you
would
get
a
tendency
to
that.
The
shallow
aquifers
that
you
tend
to
see
some
man
some
nitrates
and
is.
G
C
C
G
B
Take
your
chair,
the
I
am
absolutely
confident
in
the
the
water
that
we
have.
You
folks
produce
excellent
water.
I
did
see
one
red
flag
in
the
reports
and
I'd
like
to
get
a
general
sense
of
how
our
processes
work.
It
was
the
Britannia
be
water
mains,
I
believe
this
was
listed
in
the
the
actions
section
were
in
2017,
large
diameter
water
main
examination.
B
It
was
discovered
that
several
of
the
water
mains
showed
signs
of
distress,
I,
believe
a
further
examination
was
done
and
three
of
them
were
determined
to
be
in
need
of
immediate
repair
which
have
now
been
undertaken,
which
is
which
is
good.
My
question
is:
should
we
have
caught
that
sooner
I,
don't
like
looking
at
a
report
insane,
particularly
with
infrastructure,
that
is
this
critical
as
a
water
delivery
that
something
has
looked
at
and
it
turns
out,
needs
immediate
repairs
that
we
were
not
aware
of
previously
on
that
repair.
Should
we
have
caught
it
more
quickly?
B
G
H
Thank
you,
Miss
Rose,
mr.
chair
back,
in.
If
you
remember
a
number
of
years
ago,
we
had
the
water,
water,
main
failure,
and
after
that,
we
we
then
have
enacted
the
large
diameter
water
main
inspection
program.
So
we
are
proactively
going
in
and
inspecting
these
lines
in
order
to
try
to
avoid
a
catastrophic
failure.
H
Pipes
like
homes,
like
roads
deteriorate
over
time,
and
would
you
use
a
risk-based
approach
in
order
to
identify
those
pipes
that
we
should
be
going
and
and
assessing
in
advance
in
order
to
try
prevent
a
catastrophic
failure,
so
I,
think
by
identifying
these
pipes
and
and
going
through
a
planned
repair
is,
is
demonstrating
it
that
the
process
that
we
have
identified
is
working
and
we
will
be
continuing
to
undertake
these
inspections
and
where
we
need
to,
we
will
be
undertaking.
Those
repairs
is.
B
There
more
information
available
on
that,
particularly
one
because
the
the
wording
reports,
if
I
recall
and
I'm
sorry
I,
don't
have
it
in
front
of
me.
It
was
along
the
lines
of
needed,
immediate
repairs
and
I'm
just
wondering
like
house.
How
soon
did
we
catch
that
particular
one
and
we
can
take
this
offline?
Obviously
this
is
very
deep
into
one
particular
repair,
but
you
know
was
it
going?
It
was
an
imminent,
catastrophic
failure
that
we
should
have
caught
more
quickly.
H
So
through
the
charity,
the
inspection
technology
that
were
using
continues
to
revive
and
the
the
distress
that
was
noted.
This
was
something
that,
if
it
were
to
be
wire
breaks,
it
would
be
something
that
we
should
be
actioning.
So
is
the
recommendation
of
the
the
consultant
that
we
should
undertake
the
repair,
and
so
we've
done
that
we
haven't
put
that
pipeline
back
in
service.
We
have
enough
redundancy
with
the
existing
water
mains
that
that
we
have,
thankfully
and
work
it
is
now
underway
in
order
to
secure
that
repair.
Okay,.
D
You,
madam
chair
and
mr.
chairman,
thank
you
for
the
report
today.
Certainly
a
good
news
story,
we're
blessed
to
have
such
a
great
source
of
water,
the
main
source
being
the
Ottawa
River,
and
that
the
number
of
tests
is
above
the
provincial
recommended
number
and
the
quality
remains,
as
you
say,
Newport
the
best
in
the
world,
so
I
think
we
all
have
I
think
a
responsibility
to
share
the
good
news
with
our
residents
and
it
tastes
good
I
like
to
travel
but
I
like
to
come
home
and
enjoy
Auto
a
water
Auto
water.
D
My
one
question
is
this:
in
your
report,
page
four:
you
talk
about,
2017
was
the
lowest
year
on
record,
with
only
140
water
main
breaks,
probably
no
I'm,
going
with
my
question.
There's
a
a
micro,
neighborhood
and
web
award
that
over
a
two
month
period
had
ten
roughly
ten,
maybe
it's
nine,
maybe
it's
eleven
but
let's
say
ten
water
main
breaks
affecting
more
or
less
the
same
residence,
which
seems
very
unique.
What
is
the
plan
and
we've
had
discussions,
but
there's
a
need
to
get
this
on
the
public
record.
D
What
is
the
plan
for
this
particular
neighborhood
and
I?
Don't
know
whether
there
are
other
neighborhoods
that
have
similar
issue,
even
though
the
number
of
total
breaks
are
down
if
there
are
other
many
or
micro
communities
or
neighborhoods,
where
you
have
the
same
ongoing
issue
with
a
number
of
water
means,
maybe
it
was
the
same
vintage,
the
same
construction
type?
What's
the
plan
in
this
case.
H
So,
thank
you
cheerful
for
your
question
and
you're
like
how
so
we
have
gone
back
and
forth
this
winter.
It
was
a
particularly
tough
one
for
some
of
the
residents
in
your
ward.
We
do
follow
a
risk-based
approach
in
order
to
prioritize
the
renewal
strategy
and
with
the
number
of
water,
mains
or
water
main
breaks
on
some
of
the
streets
in
your
award.
H
The
plan
is
to
evaluate
the
sewers
in
order
to
determine
their
condition
and
then
determine
then
how
do
we
proceed
so
whether
it
would
be
an
integrated
project
will
be
the
replacement
of
the
road,
water
and
sewer
or
whether
it
would
be
a
water
main,
only
type
project
which
would
involve
replacing
the
water
main
and
then
a
trench,
reinstatement
and
then
follow
with
resurfacing.
So
we
are
looking
at
that
right
now
and
we
will
be
reporting
back
in
to
you
and
as
we
move
forward
with
defining
B
the
timeline
for
that
work,
to
be
done.
D
Okay,
I
appreciate
that
I
fully
support
doing
ace,
a
full
assessment
prioritizing
other
needs,
every
repair
cost
money.
When
you
have
ten
we're
now
over
a
million
dollars
potentially
and
even
though
the
neighborhood
is
about
65
70
years
old
and
maybe
lifespan
of
our
water
mains
is
longer
than
this
neighborhood.
We
shouldn't
expect
to
put
the
same
people
through
multiple
breaks
every
winter
for
a
number
of
winters
and
I.
D
Think
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
reinforce
is
that
I
completely
accept
the
need
to
assess,
like
I,
said
other
factors
other
variables,
the
cost
of
repairing
versus
the
cost
of
replacement,
but
I
just
think
in
this
particular
case.
It's
very
odd
that,
within
a
very,
very
small
geographic
area,
we've
had
the
number
of
breaks
that
we
have,
and
so,
if,
if
full
replacement
is
an
option,
then
certainly
I
would
urge
you
to
consider
that.
But
if
we
can
meet
at
some
point
to
discuss
what
the
plan
is,
I
would
accept
that
opportunity.
H
Through
the
chairs,
so
just
one
point
clarification.
The
the
cost
of
a
repair
is
anywhere
from
five
thousand
up
to
fifteen
thousand,
and
fifteen
thousand
would
certainly
be
on
the
high
end.
So
just
wanted
to
provide
that
clarity,
and
certainly
we
will
sit
with
you.
We
will
reach
out
to
your
office
in
order
to
discuss
the
plan
once
the
assessments
on
B.
The
suicide
have
been
completed
and
were
able
to
come
back
with
the
approach.
A
A
Three
was
carried
so
this
takes
us
to
the
letter,
as
you
will
recall,
from
the
council
meeting
in
your
week
or
so
ago
that
there
were
concerns
raised
about
what
the
resource
implications
were
for
asking
for
this
planning
authority
over
our
landfills
I'm.
Looking
at
the
mayor's
letter,
landfills,
you
should
have
received
by
circulation
the
draft
of
the
letter.
I,
don't
have
paper
copies
with
me,
but
they're
all
available
one
on
our
drives.
Do
we
have
any
questions
or
considerations
of
this?
Is
this
item
querida
carried
great
so
on
councillor
blocking
Tain's
motion.
A
Manners
letter
e
landfill
or
were
in
do
I
need
to
approve
separately
both
to
was
mayor's
letter,
re
landfills
and
approval
of
wording.
No
I
guess
one
was
just
the
putting
out
of
the
agenda.
Sorry
I'm
talking
to
myself,
those
are
approved,
so
a
councillor,
brockington
and
I
do
ought
to
thank
a
couple
of
members
of
the
events
industry
and
secretary.
We
will
have
been
here
through
a
along
the
very
interesting
discussion
of
all
sorts
of
issues.
That
may
not
be
why
you
came
out.
We
are
now
finally
getting
to
you,
council
Brockington.
D
You
mr.
mayor
mr.
chair
I'll
be
very
brief
here.
In
the
interest
of
time,
members
will
recall.
Last
month,
staff
tabled
replied
to
an
inquiry
I
posed
last
autumn
with
respect
to
recycling
in
city
parks
and
within
special
events
and
festivals,
and
that
led
to
a
conversation
at
that
committee
and
a
commitment
that
we
would
review
this
item
before
we
broke
for
the
summer
that
worked
collaboratively
with
the
chair
over
the
last
month,
and
yesterday
we
met
with
members
about
the
auto
festivals
Network,
who
are
registered
to
speak
to
this
item
in
a
few
minutes.
D
You
may
hear
some
some
concerns
today
from
the
industry
that
will
mean
to
reflect
on
in
this
motion,
but
I
wanted
to
table
it,
as
is
have
a
conversation
with
the
delegates
and
then
decide
if
there
any
tweaks
that
need
to
be
made
at
that
point.
So
mr.
chair,
just
a
very
brief
introduction
to
that
and
I
look
forward
to
discussion
with
members
of
the
committee.
A
F
So,
yes,
my
name
is
Carolyn
pigeon
and
I
am
the
executive
director
of
the
Ottawa
festival
network
and
for
those
of
you
who
are
not
aware
or
if
n
is
a
not-for-profit
member
service
organization
and
we
support
the
festival,
fair
and
special
event
industry.
We
do
that
through
research,
advocacy
and
education,
and
we
work
to
support
industry
excellence
and
to
work
collaboratively
with
many
different
partners
to
support
a
vibrant,
inspired
and
prosperous
Festival
City
I'm.
G
Nicola
Ives
Alyson
executive
director
of
the
auto
music
industry
coalition,
we
very
recently
partnered
with
the
City
of
Ottawa
to
develop
the
auto
music
strategy,
the
most
important
goal,
which
is
to
champion
music
industry
and
hope,
use
that
to
build
with
cities,
economic
and
social
prosperity,
Oh
Mike
and
the
Ottawa
festivals.
Network
worked
closely
on
many
initiatives
that
are
of
importance
to
our
community.
We
work
together
to
ensure
our
city's
events
are
sustainable,
safe
and
draining.
G
We
are
pleased
to
have
an
opportunity
to
be
teated
a
inter
met
yesterday,
with
councillors
turn
Shenko
and
bat
intend
to
discuss
the
genesis
of
this
motion,
the
desired
consultation
plan
and
process
to
support,
raising
the
bar
towards
improved
recycling
at
our
festivals
and
special
events.
So
in
many.
F
Ways
the
festival
industry
has
led
the
way
in
breeding
practices.
You
might
be
familiar
with
some
of
these,
so
the
precursor
to
city,
folk,
the
Ottawa,
Folk,
Festival,
washed,
attendee
dishes
city
folk
today
uses
compostable
beer,
cups
and
cup
suckers
and
garbage
cans
to
keep
cups
out
of
landfill.
Hope
volleyball
has
set
up
bike
racks
long
before
they
were
even
commonplace
and
the
Tim
Hortons
Dragon
Boat
is
actually
at
the
4th
of
environmental
leadership.
F
It's
the
first
carbon-neutral
festival
in
North
America
and
in
2007
it
initiated
a
full
recycling
program
and
became
the
first
equal
logo
certified
festival
in
the
world,
so
both
both
men
and
omec
welcome
opportunities
to
do
more
to
support
recycling.
At
events,
as
Nick
said,
we
must
have
will
ensure
that
organizers
and
organizations
that
support
them
have
the
resources
and
the
capacity
to
fully
engage
a
thorough
consultation
process
and
to
meet
the
implementation
requirements.
F
2018
is
is
an
unprecedented
year
for
consultation
in
the
industry.
There
are
at
least
ten
separate
consultations
that
have
been
initiative.
Sorry
that
have
been
initiated
or
will
be
launched
over
the
next
six
to
eight
months,
and
one
of
those
inquiries
will
be
spearheaded
by
event
central
with
Ottawa
festivals,
to
holistically,
examine
the
framework
that
exists
to
keep
all
event
safe,
accessible
and
enjoyable,
which
includes
minimum
requirements
and
the
way
in
which
the
city
services
support
them.
So
waste
management
could
be
a
part
of
this
review.
F
Opportunities
to
review
how
the
industry
can
improve
waste
management
and
contribute
to
a
greener
City
would
be
welcomed.
However,
we
want
to
ensure
that
we
are
setting
ourselves
up
for
success,
and
this
would
mean
not
having
a
comprehensive
study
initiated
during
this
already
extraordinary
period
of
industry.
Consultation
and
the
Ottawa
festival
network
and
olmec
would
be
pleased
to
continue
this
work
with
event,
central
and
other
city
partners.
To
this
end,
however,.
G
We
would
not
be
amenable
to
May
1st
2019
is
a
deadline
for
implementation,
given
that
the
full
car
city,
support
for
greener
festival
wouldn't
be
known
and
so
april
under
this
proposal
and
when
not
simply
would
not
provide
enough
lead
time
for
us
to
implement
successfully
as
the
event
season
hits
a
type
in
the
month
of
june.
So
planning
would
be
six
to
eight
months
out
from
that,
usually
starting
the
fall.
G
At
the
same
time
that
we're
trying
to
encourage
more
of
such
activity,
our
desire
is
to
continue
to
work
collaborative,
probably
with
event
central
in
our
other
city
and
community
partners
towards
reasonable
phased
in
actual
improvements
that
info
and
sustainable
change
towards
a
greener
industry
and
the
city.
Thank.
F
C
Dime,
just
a
quick
question:
I
think
you
guys
work
with
their
worship
there
and
those
were
things
and
real,
outlaw,
don't
see
them
clearly,
but
did
you
find
that
the
city
challenges
she
keeps
adding
more
and
more
regulation
to
how
fairs
and
festivals
and
events
throughout
the
city
go
on
every
single
year
every
single
year
in
the
amount,
a
new
application
goes
your
seat
that
there's
always
something
new
almost
every
year
that
we've
added.
That
is
an
extra
cost
to
a
lot
of
these
groups.
So.
F
As
it
pertains
to
the
city
I
guess,
sometimes
it
feels
that
way
globally
beyond
cities.
So,
for
example,
we've
seen
a
600
percent
increase
in
SOPs
for
dance
to
sell
alcohol
Durov
nth
right.
So
that
has
been
a
pressure
on
the
industry.
We're
going
to
see
the
marijuana
legislation
come
down
in
July
and
we
don't
really
fully
understand
the
impacts
or
the
opportunities
to
the
industry.
So
yes,
it's
it's.
You
know
we
have
potential
security
issues
that
are
coming
up
Nick.
F
You
might
want
to
speak
a
little
bit
more
about,
but
you
know
we'll
very
we're
sensitive
to
other
looming
pressures
for
the
industry.
So
yes,
it's
something
that's
always
on
the
later,
because
profit
margins
for
festivals
and
in
the
city,
99
percent
of
our
members
are
not-for-profit
organizations,
so
their
profit
margins
are
very
razor
thin
and
it's
something
that
they
have
to
manage
on
an
ongoing
basis,
especially
every
year
where
their
budget,
their
zero-based
budget.
F
So
every
year,
they're
starting
from
scratch
and
having
you
know,
one
way
to
successfully
implement
a
recycling
plan,
for
example
for
smaller
festivals
and
events,
could
take.
You
know
a
couple
of
years
before
they
can
actually
have
the
financial
traction
to
deliver
on
results,
and
so
that's
why
we,
you
know
we
would.
We
were
appealing
for
a
more
phased
and
approach
to
whatever
outcomes
might
come
out
of
an
eventual
study.
Exam.
C
F
And
you
know
our
we
spoke
to
both
councilors
cherish,
anko
and
Brockington.
Yesterday
about
some
of
the
you
know
not
so
kosher
practices
of
volunteers,
then
you
know
all
recycling
bins
in
order
to
you
know,
do
the
right
thing
and
was
like
and
collect
recyclables
and
then
actually,
you
know,
implement
them
and
they're
put
them
in
their
own
trash.
The
residential
trash
systems,
which
is
not
you,
know,
culture,
but
it
just
shows
that
there's
really
strong
goodwill
and
part
of
that
community.
So.
C
C
G
One
of
the
key
key
issues
with
the
motion
as
its
proposed
is
that
there
isn't
clarity
around
the
type
of
city
support
that
would
be
available
before
we're
having
a
work
towards
an
implementation
deadline.
So
if
we
don't
know
if
the
city
is
able
to
provide
additional
vanes
or
provide
funding
or
provide
some
sort
of
financial
support
to
ensure
that
private
waste
collection
is
possible,
even
that
there's
the
capacity
for
private
waste
collection
that
includes
organics
and
recyclables
on
weekends,
which
is
when
most
festivals
and
special
events
run.
G
C
A
My
question
is
actually
for
stapped
how
we,
okay,
let's
finish
delegation
sent
councillor
McCain,
also
to
staff
all
right?
Well,
my
not
are
they
will
be
to
staff
as
well,
but
so
I
certainly
hear
you
and
heard
you
yesterday
and
familiar
in
aqua
sea
event.
Industry,
as
you
know,
because
I
told
you
about
it
yesterday
and
many
may
not
I
consulted
in
this
world
of
major
medium,
two
major
sized
events
back
as
early
as
maybe
1994
or
1995.
A
So
on
the
one
hand,
it's
certainly
not
true
to
say
that
nobody
saw
this
coming
in
the
sense
that,
as
far
back
as
the
mid
90s,
it
was
becoming
to
do
to
run
a
green
event,
and
it's
surprising
at
this
to
this
far
along
that
not
everybody
is
already
doing
it.
On
the
other
hand,
the
fact
is
that
some
are
not,
and
some
are
absolutely
excellent
and
are
models
that
others
could
learn
from
so
the
place
that
we're
trying
to
get
to
believe.
As
a
committee
again
speaker
for
all.
A
My
colleagues,
of
course,
is
to
try
to
shift
the
all
events
to
where
they
would
normally
do
these
things,
but
in
a
way
that
is
as
little
a
burden
as
possible.
In
the
end,
we
will
often
get
the
the
laggards
who
will
have
to
be
forced
to
do
it
when
everybody
else
did
it
voluntarily
or
helped
to
do
it
and
I
think
that
the
general
sentiment
will
be
require
it
if
necessary,
but
only,
if
necessary,
to
to
acquire
it.
So
what
would
you
then
I
will
ask
staff
this
as
well?
A
What
what
better
timeline
then
help
me
understand
again
or
perhaps
reiterate
a
given
that
some
people
hearing
us
today
and
perhaps
reading
about
it
tomorrow,
will
think
you
know
really.
They
can't
do
something
as
simple
as
recycle
when
we've
been
going
in
that
direction
for
25
years.
That
can't
look
good
on
the
industry
to
say:
oh
hey!
This
can
way
too
fast,
but
on
the
other
hand
you
do
have
your
financial
and
volunteer
impediments
is.
Is
there
a
phased
rollout?
A
F
F
Just
a
very
recent
mini
survey
that
we've
conducted
with
our
membership,
95%
of
our
members
are
saying
that
they
already
have
some
only
recycling
in
place,
so
but
that's
only
a
small
sample
size
of
our
membership.
So
we
actually
took
the
initiative
and
did
a
very
simple
survey,
to
try
to
get
a
sense
of
where
people
might
be
at
so
in
terms
of
a
timeline.
F
We
would
be
hopeful
to
be
able
to
identify
some
low-hanging
food
opportunities
before
the
end
of
2019,
but
of
course
it
would
any
result
and
what
implementation
on
that
result
as
they
and
I
have
talked
about,
is
really
dependent
on
the
commitment
from
the
city
to
work
in
partnership
with
us
to
help
us
identify
resources,
or
you
know,
to
support
the
implementation
of
other
results
that
we
all
need
to
see.
That
would
come
out
of
that
implementation
of
the
study,
sorry,
consultation
study
and.
A
F
A
Assuming
that
the
intention
of
the
previous
government
carries
forward,
we
may
be
in
a
place
in
a
couple
of
years,
where
essentially,
it's
mandatory,
that
that
no
organic
material
can
go
into
and
fill
any.
For
example,
in
which
case
I
guess
it
would
be
goose
assaulter
to
start
thinking
about
how
that
might
be
implemented.
A
C
C
Manpower
that
is
required.
You
need
a
person
at
those
bins
to
help
people
direct,
because
you
end
up
getting
a
polluted
stream
of
a
waste
that
becomes
that
becomes
so
you
need
a
person
right
there,
the
bends
to
assist
persons,
people
who
are
attending
the
event
to
to
deposit
so
and
I
get
the
point
of
the
industry
that
we
want
to
set
this
up
first
for
success,
and
we
want
it
to
be
successful
in
that
will
require
additional
volunteer
manpower
at
the
events
that
that's
my
comment
there
further
to
yours,.
D
F
D
B
F
And
I'm,
neither
here
event
centrist
point
of
view
on
this
as
well,
but
I
think
that
if
we
could
start
discussions
about
what
you
know,
what
are
the
needs
and
what
are
the
processes
in
a
twenty
nine
twenty
nineteen
that
would
work
with
Auto
festivals,
work
plan
and
I
think
it
would
also
piggyback
nicely
on
some
of
the
discussions
that
we're
already
going
to
have
this
year
with
event
central
about
services
in
general
for
for
the
industry.
So
my.
B
F
B
D
Just
confused
on
the
need
for
a
year
of
consultation,
basically
I
envision
staff,
leading
a
consultation.
That's
for
those
of
you
who
are
recycling
in
organics.
How
are
you
doing
this?
What
are
your
costs?
How
do
you
make
this
successful
and
those
who
aren't
what
are
the
one
of
the
impediments
that
are
leading
you
to
make
this
decision,
and
so
I
don't
see
how
we
have
a
year-long
consultation
on
this?
D
The
questions
are
going
to
be
short
and
clear,
and
members
of
your
network,
whether
those
who
are
engaged
in
or
not
need
to
be,
you
know,
participating
to
give
that
feedback.
I.
Think
it's
misleading
to
state
95%
of
your
members
are
recycling
because,
that's
not
that's
not
true.
It
could
be
true
of
those
who
answered
the
survey
and
people
who
are
engaged
or
maybe
more
willing
to
admit
that
they
are
current
of
of
that
solution.
D
But
I
think
it's
fair
to
say,
and
we
need
to
to
state
here
today
that
95%
of
special
events
and
festivals
are
not
there.
It
could
be
50
percent,
but
to
suggest
and
to
have
the
media
report
that
only
5
percent
or
not
is
that's
not
an
accurate
statement
and
the
reason
why
I'm
bringing
this
is
because
I
attend
dozens
of
festivals
every
summer
and
there's
a
significant
number
who
are
not
recyclables
and
simply
going
in,
though
in
the
garbage,
and
that
is
why
this
matter
is
here
today.
A
F
So
I
I
did
make
an
error
and
it
is
seventy-seven
percent
and
you
write
council,
chair
mischenko.
It
is
a
very
small
sample
size,
but
at
least
it
gives
us
an
indication
that
many
festivals
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
that
many
festivals
are
recycling.
Now
that
the
you
know,
the
the
nuances
of
that
is
not
clear
nots.
What
we
haven't
been
able
to
get
into
and
that's
what
this
eventual
consultation
I
hope
would
do,
and.
G
G
We
hit
someone
Midway.
However,
we
still
need
that
on
land
and
there
needs
to
be
the
time
to
take
the
results
from
the
consultation
to
develop
an
implementation
process
that
works
and
then
once
the
implementation
process
is
clear
to
then
be
able
to
onboard
festival,
so
you
have
in
buy-in
right
away.
We
don't
want
to
do
this
in
a
way
that
festivals
are
not
going
to
be
successful.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
just
mediocre
at
recycling.
We
want
to
be
a
leader,
as
the
festival
industry
in
Ottawa
is
nationally
right.
G
A
Well,
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
thank
you
for
for
for
coming,
you've
certainly
been
heard
and
we're
going
out
to
take
all
these
use
into
considerations.
We
try
and
find
a
way
forward.
I
would
like
to
now
ask
city
staff
who
were
in
attendance
if
they
could
be
available
for
questions,
particularly
for
our
special
events,
event,
central
and
and
by
lon.
A
H
Thank
You
chair
in
terms
of
the
planning
process-
and
this
doesn't
speak
to
actual
infrastructure,
but
then
that
the
in
terms
of
the
intake
event,
applicants
are
asked
for
a
risk
management
plan
and
encouraged
to
access
some
of
the
resources
available
through
the
event
guide,
linking
them
to
a
toolkit
essentially
from
the
province
in
terms
of
actual
infrastructure
and
its
recreation
culture.
The
cities
available,
and
it
was
identified
in
in
the
response
last
time
where
a
certain
inventory
for
very
small
events
is
available.
So
essentially
it's
recycling
bins,
chair
and
they
add
to
that.
H
H
A
H
A
H
A
On
the
development
of
this
requirement,
it
was
certainly
brought
to
our
attention
by
the
main
organizers
of
the
Ottawa
Ukrainian
festival,
who
happens
also
to
be
a
regulator
with
a
lot
of
background
in
writing.
Bylaws,
and
she
reminded
us
that
you
can't
require
something.
If
there's
no
bylaw,
you
can
say
you
require
it,
but
it's
got
no
with
Scott
motif,
so
it's
really
a
waste
of
our
time
requiring
something
if
there's
no
by
law,
to
enforce
it
and
bylaw
staff
to
enforce
it.
A
What
would
your
recommendations
be
for
for
a
process
to
to
make
this
mandatory?
We
could
do
several
things
we
could.
We
could
do
something
optional
and
encourage
it
while
we're
doing
that
work,
for
example,
but
for
it
actually
to
become
our
requirement,
it
would
have
to
have
that
that
support.
Is
there
a
process
or
navona
environment.
D
Point
of
order
we
are
debating
whether
or
not
we
go
down
a
road
of
formal
consultation
which
will
yield
recommendations
you're,
asking
for
the
recommendations,
now:
okay,
you're,
asking
staff
to
tell
you
how
we're
going
to
implement
the
logistics
arming,
that's
not
debating
today
today.
It's
what
are
the
merits
of
going
down
a
road
of
formal
consultation,
which
will
include
a
formal
report
with
recommendations
so
asking
staff
to
give
us
the
recommendations
today
is
not
in
order.
It.
A
Is
my
interpretation
as
the
chair
when
I'm
done
speaking,
you
can
choose
to
challenge
me
as
the
chair.
It
is
my
interpretation
that
I'm
trying
to
find
a
way
that
we
move
the
event
industry
to
all
participate
in
recycling
and
composting
and
that
I'm
trying
to
clarify
what
the
best
and
most
rapid
way
of
doing
that
and
having
full
compliance
is
and
so
understanding
what
our
staff
resources
are
and
what
process
they
might
recommend
is
I,
don't
believe,
I'm
jumping
the
gun
there.
A
H
And
immature
in
terms
of
the
existing
practices
and
existing
provisions
available
to
us
under
the
current
Authority
and
under
the
special
them
on
public
and
private
property
by
law.
There
are
circumstances,
above
and
beyond
the
minimum
requirements
that
we
request
irrelevant.
So,
for
example,
a
site
plan,
an
emergency
plan
if
their
circumstances
that
arise,
whether
through
event,
monitoring
feedback
that
might
come
through
your
office
or
the
corporate
debriefing
process.
There's
a
mechanism
in
which
we
can
require
additional
plans
or
specifications
from
and
a
specific
situation.
So
a
specific
event
words.
A
C
H
You
Jeff
in
a
clarification,
say,
and
currently
as
I
understand
it.
There
is
a
council
approved
by
law,
whether
you
work
Quinn
and
if
they
are
to
proceed
by
with
the
consultation
in
the
timelines,
because
I
understand
that
we
would
have
to
look
at
the
prioritization
of
that
work.
Concurrently
and
another
option
available
to
us
is
based
on
the
fact
that
staff
and
have
initiated
conversations
with
the
festival
network
and
intend
to
come
propose
the
the
its
entirety
being
reviewed
in
the
next
terminal
council.
That's
another
option
available
to
us
are.
C
H
The
consultation
especially
I
think
we've
heard
that
has
bad
impacts
and
we
wouldn't
want
to
take
it
lightly.
We
would
want
to
reach
out
to
many
of
the
stakeholders
that
would
impact
at
potentially
other
areas
in
our
community
associations
BIA,
to
also
often
organize
events,
and
that's
something
that
we
would
want
to
hear
some
of
the
discussions
that
we've
had
here
today.
What
services
are
available
to
them
in
the
community?
What
services
could
be
made
available
to
them
through
the
city?
C
When
a,
if
we're
talking
about
that,
there
might
be
several
layers
to
the
recommendations,
comprehensive
recommendations
and,
and
so
I'm
I
wonder
about
an
implementation
date
of
May
20
19th
2019,
but
in
simple
terms,
if
a
source,
an
organic
source
or
recycling
source
is
corrupted
polluted.
What
happens
to
that
to
that
stream?
What
ends
up
happening
to
it.
H
The
markets
are
fairly
stringent
on
the
cleanliness
of
those
waste
streams,
so
recycling
it's
in
the
news
lately
about
you,
know
the
requirements
for
very,
very
being
recyclables
in
order
for
them
to
be
marketed,
and
the
same
goes
with
organics,
so
I
think
it.
It
would
require
some
due
diligence
on
the
festival
organisers
to
ensure
that
those
waste
streams
were
properly
sorted
and
and
kept
clean.
C
H
I
think
that
the
timelines
are
a
challenge
for
city
staff,
in
the
sense
that,
and
this
term
that
we've
heard
you
know
the
event
industry
is
in
the
prime
of
their
season.
The
consultation
probably
wouldn't
start
so.
The
follow
intro
and
the
fact
that
from
their
staff,
would
be
diverted
from
existing
priorities
plans
to
come
back
with
the
recommendations
in
the
to
counsel.
H
C
D
Given
the
testimony
that
the
festival's
network
has
provided
I,
do
I
certainly
do
not
want.
My
intent
is
not
to
negatively
burn
either
the
industry
or
any
particular
special
event
or
festival
I'm.
The
sensitive
and
empathetic,
with
some
of
their
own
pressures
that
they've
they've
provided
here
today.
So
I
just
want
to
share
with
you
what
I'm,
thinking
and
I'm
sharing
this
with
the
committee
to
think
of
that.
But
if
we
left
silent
an
implementation
date
that
the
motion
was
amended
to
remove
an
actual
date,
we
still
direct
you
to
go
through
the
consultation.
D
We
still
direct
you
to
engage
the
other
departments
within
the
city
and
we
ask
you
to
come
back
in
June
of
2019.
So,
let's
give
you
a
year
you
find
out
from
the
network
and
the
other
players
the
best
time
to
do
consultation
and
just
come
back
to
us
with
your
reported
recommendations
a
year
from
now,
and
then
the
committee
will
decide.
D
The
best
way
to
move
forward
seems
to
would
be
better
for
the
festival's
group
would
give
you
and
your
team
more
time
to
do
that,
consultation
and
flexibility,
and
whether
it's
staggered
or
all
together.
That
would
be
part
of
your
recommendation.
So
would
you
agree
that
that
would
be
a
better
course
to
go
at
this
point.
H
Thank
You
chair
and
yes,
that
does
that
does
leave
a
lot
of
opportunity
in
terms
of
staff.
Consulting
with
the
community
and
I.
Do
want
to
note
that
if,
if
the
Avenue
or
person
is
to
formalize,
the
that
would
have
to
be
through
an
amendment
to
the
bylaw
and
NIH,
if
we're
working
under
those
timelines
and
staff
can
report
back
before
next
week's
council
I'm
the
feasibility
of
the
proposed
motion,
which
also
needs
to
take
into
consideration
the
reprioritization
of
that
work
plan.
So.
D
Mr.
chair,
would
I
I'm
a
what
I'm
going
to
propose
is
that
this
motion
has
broken
into
three
parts.
The
first
part
the
words
with
an
expected
implementation
date
of
May
1st
2019
be
struck,
so
all
other
part
of
the
movie
that
recommendation
would
remain.
We
would
just
eliminate
with
an
expected
implementation
dated
May,
1st
2019
that
be
eliminated
and
then,
in
part,
three,
that
the
staff
report
come
back
to
us,
not
in
April
of
2019
but
June,
and
so
that's
the
amendment
I'd
like
to
make
to
my
own
motion.
I'll.
A
Seeing
yes,
I
see
no
difficulty
at
all
with
that.
That
sounds
like
it's.
It's
a
reasonable
compromise
that
will
get
us
to
where
we
want
to
make
sure
they're
amendments,
so
you
don't
need
support
others
too
many
emotion,
but
do
you
have
any
further
questions
then?
Or
clarification
at
this
point
be
a
counselor
tether
was
on
the
list,
so
certainly
I,
guess
that
that
is
now
the
motion
that
we
are
looking
at.
So.
D
D
Split
the
baby
here
and
say:
can
we
not
have
voluntary?
Can
we
not
have
voluntary
implementation
in
2019?
Yes,
Bend?
You
know
and
mandatory
implementation
in
2020.
Now,
yes,
that'd,
be
a
question
for
the
mover
he's
the
mover
in
amending
his
motion
is
kind
of
given
up
all
the
candy
because
he's
taken
out
the
implementation
date.
D
D
Just
briefly,
that's
implicit
from
day
one
and
I
think
there's
responsibility
on
the
festivals
Network
to
continuously
communicate
with
their
members
about
this
is
2018
and
there
are
heightened
expectations.
But
for
this
motion,
I'm
satisfied
with
how
it
we've
just
amended
it
and
I
would
prefer
that
we
commence
this
consultation.
Then
the
industry
knows
what
our
expectations
are.
We
are
moving
in
this
direction
and,
if
folks
can
voluntarily
go
in
that
direction,
this
year,
fantastic,
but
I'm,
satisfied
with
how
it's
been
amended
at
this
point.
A
Do
my
best
to
give
the
definitive
answer
to
that
question
as
we
discussed
yesterday
with
with
the
delegates
who
are
here
right
now?
No,
there
is
no
implication
here
that
the
the
festival
and
events
you
know
sector
is
the
only
and
the
worst
offender.
In
terms
of
you
know,
non-compliance
with
recycling
or
composting.
A
You
know
highlights
that
those
that
aren't
I
think
this
is
we
can't
there
yeah
in
the
sense
that
the
city
does
not
have
anything
close
to
full
government's
over
the
Iceni
sector,
which
is
really
what
you're
getting
at
I
guess,
because
so
much
of
what
we
do
with
with
tourism
and
events
as
part
of
a
partnership,
there's
there's
a
very
strong.
You
know.
City
involvement
in
these
events
send
it
and
it
does
come
down
to
to
the
visibility.
Is
there
a
definitive
answer
to
why
this
one
sector,
and
not
the
others?
A
B
But
the
visibility
it
just
highlights
the
general
problem
in
the
Iceni
sector,
because
the
reason
missus
visibles
you
have
say
7
or
10,000
people
gathering
in
one
location.
They
would
be
creating
the
same
amount
of
waste
if
they
were
dissipated
into
the
various
jobs
during
the
day
and
that
kind
of
thing
that
nothing's
expected
of
that.
No.
A
Well,
but
if
they
were
at
home
consuming
the
same
things,
there
is
an
expectation
from
the
city
that
they
would
be
streaming
these
out,
we're
not
getting
on
2
percent
compliance
or
either
that
are
know
working
on
it.
So
that
was
a
long
and
non
definitive
answer
from
me,
but
an
attempt
to
do
so,
oh
yeah,
so
I
think
without
without
definitive
answers
to
questions
like
that.
I
think
we're
looks
like
we
were
approaching
voting
on
this
now,
if
council,
Moffitt
yep
so.
C
I
call
on
the
sound
Hawkman,
but
the
questions
to
delegation
the
side
this
to
me,
regardless
of
the
implementation
date
and
obviously
that
you
know
having
a
motion
that
doesn't
presuppose
the
conclusion
that
presupposes
the
implementation
of
we
have
no
idea
was
concluding,
was
evolvable
so
appreciate
you've
taken,
but
this
is
every
special
events
over
500
people.
You
know
it
seems
that
in
this
moment
I
met,
but
that's
not
that
long
ago,
since
every
year
we're
asking
more
of
our
special
events
more
of
our
community
organizations
that
provide
these
events.
C
These
events
aren't
they
became
day
because
they
were
successful
in
communities.
The
Dixon,
deism
and
say
I
mean
the
Osman
medieval
festival.
The
current
fair.
These
are
things
that
every
single
year
would
have
seen,
meetings
and
every
single
year
there's
something
more
for
Dickenson
days
this
year
it
was
lighted
exit
signs
on
the
tent.
That
is
only
used
to
area
design.
That
was
something
they
had
to
add
this
year.
It's
an
extra
cost.
Dickenson
days
lost
a
thousand
dollars
this
year
they
would
lose
more
I
didn't
cover
the
cost
of
policing.
C
That's
probably
not
something
I
should
be
doing
or
should
have
to
do,
but
the
reality
is
that's
another
imposition
on
these
festivals
in
or
several
years
that
they
are
have
to
pay
for
their
precinct.
We
do
the
Santa
Claus
Parade
for
free,
so
so
Christmas
is
fine,
but
everything
else
we
cherish
so
I
just
see
this
going
down
that
road.
It's
just
another
thing
we're
asking
these
people
to
and
we're
imposing
something
on
them
that
we
don't
seem
to
really
care
about
doing
ourselves.
What
are
we
doing
with
multi
res
organic
discussion?
C
Anything
have
you
talked
about
a
community
at
all
this
term?
No,
not
really
so
we
receive
divorce.
We
do
nothing
substantive
in
terms
of
addressing
some
of
these
things
that
we
have
issues
within
our
own
situation,
the
things
that
we
can
control.
Yet
we
feel
it's
okay
to
go
and
impose
on
others
things
that
we
feel
they
should
be
doing.
C
I
have
a
big
issue
with
that,
and
it
seems
like
I
said
every
year
is
something
new
and
vegans
here
in
syndicate
all
we
wants
about
how
they
should
be
doing
as
the
base,
but
how
about
we
figure
out
what
we're
doing
first
before
we
go,
tell
them
what
to
do
when
we
know
that
many
of
them
are
doing
their
best
to
do
it
anyways,
because
they
know
it's
right.
So
I
won't
support
this,
we'll
see.
C
A
Any
others
to
speak
to
this
I
will
leave
the
closing
remarks
to
two
counselor
Washington.
If
he
wishes,
I
would
just
like
to
say
that,
yes,
there's
there's
an
element
to
that
accounts
from
of
it.
I
certainly
take
take
that
point.
Yes,
this
committee
has
deleted
two
organics
in
multi-residential
and
is
struggling
to
to
move
towards
that
being
mandatory
and
but
but
has
also
recognized
in
that
sector.
A
There
were
you
have
buildings
that
are
already
built
and
did
not
have
the
facilities
to
store
that
that
is
a
challenge
for
them
and
that's
part
of
the
reason
we
haven't
acted
too
quickly
are
not
making
it
mandatory
either.
So
I
think
this
committee
and
council
has
tried
to
be
sensitive
to
the
realities
of
the
kinds
of
expectations
that
we
have
for
for
others,
as
well
as
as
ourselves.
A
But
I
do
see
this
as
as
a
partnership
that
we
that
we
are
entering
into
and
I
think
that
the
amendments
that
have
been
made
reflect
that
so
I
will
be
supporting
this
amended
motion.
Council
barking.
Do
you
wish
to
close
any
mites,
nothing
down
so
we're
at
the
point
of
asking
the
question
before
I
am
asked:
when
are
we
finally
going
to
have
lunch?