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From YouTube: Transportation Committee - 4 December 2019 (2/2)
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A
B
Right
Thank
You
chair,
so
we're
here
today
to
talk
about
the
terms
of
council
priorities
tied
to
the
transportation
services
department.
So
just
a
bit
of
background
November
6,
the
proposed
priorities
were
table
to
council
we're
here
today
at
Standing
Committee
to
consider
them,
and
then
next
Wednesday
will
be
approved
by
council
suppose,
specifically
for
transportation.
There's
four
actions:
there's
a
transportation
master
plan,
implement
mobility,
safety
initiatives,
a
temporary
traffic
ami
measure
program
and
work
on
the
autonomous
vehicles.
B
C
Sure
I
think
you've
covered
a
lot
of
this
at
the
beginning.
Already,
when
you
kicked
off
our
the
announcement,
if
they
start
a
fire
transportation
master
plan,
so
it
is
a
very
important
exercise,
an
important
document
for
the
planning
and
managing
of
growth
and
how
we
serve
that
growth
through
transportation.
C
So
this
work
is
already
starting
and
we
will
be
finished
by
April
of
2022.
We
have
a
lot
of
data
that
we've
been
gathering
all
through
the
years
different
sources,
but
one
of
the
key
ones
is
the
origin
destination
survey,
so
that
will
be
starting
next
next
fall
and
it
will
take
about
a
year
to
clean
the
data,
make
sure
it's
all
in
place
and
calibrate
our
model,
and
that
serves
us
a
check
to
see
where
we're
going
with
our
trends
and
so
on.
So
with
the
TMP.
C
The
previous
excuse
me,
the
previous
vision
and
the
principles
will
likely
remain
intact,
and
so
now
we
would
proceed
with
some
of
the
newer
issues
that
we
have
to
do
with
the
TMP
autonomous
vehicles
for
one
equity
lens
for
another
and
then
the
different
modes
of
how
transportation
is
morphing.
Because
of
that
last
mile,
and
perhaps
we
can
use
other
technologies
to
help
us
with
that,
so
that's
that's
it
in
a
nutshell,
there
will
be
plenty
of
consultation
included
in
this
process
and
we
will
be
also
updating
our
website.
Tmp
update,
comm,
dot,
CA.
B
In
terms
of
mobility,
safety
initiatives,
so
the
the
first
one
is
tied
to
the
existing
programs
behind
the
last
term
of
council,
such
as
the
pxo
program,
the
pedestrian
safety
evaluation
program,
the
cycling
safety
program,
the
accessible
push,
pedestrian
signals
and
also
safe
roads
ottawa.
So
those
programs
have
been
carried
over
the
the
next
item
to
temporary
traffic
calming
measures.
B
That's
the
the
$50,000
that's
allocated
to
each
ward
councillor
to
implement
temporary
measures
such
as
our
flex
posts
or
our
paper
markings
and
a
new
one
for
this
term
of
council
is
the
work
that
we're
doing
in
the
autonomous
vehicle
group.
So
we've
started
to
participate
on
on
projects.
We
had
our
eco
Drive
that
we've
been
doing
last
few
years,
also
work
with
technology
so
that
we
can
communicate
with
autonomous
vehicles
and
connected
vehicles
at
our
traffic
lights.
We're
also
participating
on
the
l5
at
the
l5
site,
as
well
as
the
kinetic
test
track.
A
D
Whereas,
inter
provincial
bridge
crossing
planning
design,
construction
operations,
funding
are
under
federal
jurisdictions
and
the
connections
to
provincial
highway
systems
are
the
responsibility
of
the
rest
of
respective
provinces.
Whereas
the
tunnel
option
connecting
the
417
to
McDonald
Kelsey
bridge,
would
resolve
the
City
of
Ottawa
issues
of
having,
inter
provincial
trucks,
going
through
our
downtown
streets.
Whereas
the
tunnel
option
is
the
responsibility
of
the
Ministry
of
Transportation
Ontario,
as
per
their
mandate
to
connect
400
I
ways
to
intrapreneur
crossing,
which
was
never
achieved
in
Ottawa.
D
Therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
the
City
of
Ottawa
reaffirm
and
identifies
this
downtown
heavy
truck
traffic
issue
as
a
term
of
council
priority.
That
is
in
dire
need
of
a
solution
and
further
further
further
it
be.
It
resolved
that
the
City
of
Ottawa
work
closely
with
the
federal
government
on
its
reinitiation
of
the
new
provincial
court,
a
new
interprovincial
crossing
study
and
other
related
studies
pertaining
to
the
strategic
transportation
planning
between
the
two
provinces.
A
E
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
I'm,
here
on
behalf
of
the
FCA,
the
FCA
transportation
community,
did
review
the
term
of
council
priorities
for
integrated
transportation
and
wanted
to
bring
two
issues
to
your
attention
that
they
felt
that
should
be
included
in
the
list
of
term
of
council
priorities.
One
deals
with
inter
provincial
transportation,
the
other
deals
with
getting
the
trucks
off
King
Edward.
As
you
know,
maybe
she
just
talked
about
the
transportation
master
plan
and
you
can
expect
through
the
transportation
master
plan.
E
Certainly
the
issue
of
inter
provincial
transportation
transit
connections
would
be
part
of
that
process
and
that
is
in
part
of
your
term
of
council
priorities.
Parenthetically.
Mr.
chairman
I'd,
like
to
thank
staff
city
staff
for
helping
us
hold
a
workshop
for
FCA
members
on
the
transportation
master
plan
update.
It
was
a
very
useful.
Saturday
morning
we
spent
at
Tom
Brown
Arena,
going
over
the
all
the
premises
of
developing
a
new
transportation
master
plan.
But
as
as
you
know,
mr.
E
chairman,
ten
years
ago,
more
than
ten
years
ago,
the
NCC
did
conduct
a
federal
provincial
province
of
Ontario
province
of
Quebec
City
of
Ottawa
city
of
Gatineau.
Interprovincial
bridge
study,
where
they
did
identify
that
this
region
needed
two
more
bridge
crossings.
Unfortunately,
that
study
crashed
and
burned
when
the
government
of
Ontario
pulled
out,
but
we
now
know
today
that
the
federal
government
has
mandated
the
NCC
to
refresh
that
study
and
therefore
it
is
absolutely
timely,
never
mind
a
transportation
master
plan.
E
That's
looking
out
to
I
think
is
2046,
but
as
a
term
of
council
priority
to
have
this
listed
amongst
those
priorities
that,
because
we're
10
years
out
of
date
already.
Secondly,
the
with
respect
to
getting
trucks
off
King
Edward
that
has
been
a
long-standing
sore
in
this
city
for
decades.
Upon
decades
and
I
know,
the
previous
council
struggled
with
this
came
up
with
a
feasibility
study
which
identified
an
options
and
possible
options
in
in
order
to
have
better
goods
movement,
but
also
more
safer
goods
movement.
E
So
in
the
bottom
line,
mr.
chairman
is
we're
very
pleased
to
see
councillor
flurry
introduce
this
motion.
It
is
I
think
or
on
behalf
of
the
FC
Transportation
Committee,
certainly
worthy
of
support.
It
is
an
are
two
important
issues
that
the
city
needs
to
address.
So
thank
you
for
that.
Mr.
chairman.
F
F
F
Opportunities
to
add
more
details
within
the
term
of
council
priorities
specifically
related
to
transportation.
I
know
in
the
election
this
past
fall
none
other
than
the
mayor
had
a
plan
to
get
an
electric
bus
pilot
project
going
in
Ottawa.
We
were
very
supportive
of
that
and
it's
good
to
know
that,
there's
a
small
pilot
being
planned.
We
know,
given
the
climate
crisis,
that
we
need
to
electrify
the
bus
fleet
much
more
quickly
and
so
I
wondered
if
there'd
be
any
appetite
for,
perhaps
including
a
specific
reference
to
that.
F
So
perhaps
there
there
may
or
may
not
be
appetite
for
integrating
some
type
of
a
commitment
to
that
in
there.
Maybe
it's
too
last-minute
to
add
to
what's
being
proposed
today,
but
maybe
between
now
and
when
this
rises
to
council.
Some
thought
could
be
given
to
that.
The
other
thing
I
just
wanted
to
reflect
on
was
it
seems
like
there's
a
lot
of
interest
in
autonomous
vehicles.
F
We
don't
have
those
yet,
but
it
seems
staff
time
is
being
dedicated
to
working
with
stakeholders
on
that
there
may
come
a
time
when
those
are
a
reality.
There's
some
really
disturbing
ideas
coming
out
of
the
business
interests.
Promoting
that
idea,
which
is
that
you
know
sidewalks,
could
be
fenced
off
to
prevent
people
from
walking
out
across
a
road
so
that
the
autonomous
vehicle
would
be
less
likely
to
hit
people
unless
the
autonomous
vehicle
was
sort
of.
You
know
specifically
keyed
into
those
safe
crossing
areas.
F
Much
rather
see
a
commitment
into
the
term
of
council
priorities
to
re-establishing
a
bike
sharing
program
in
Ottawa
than
putting
too
much
time
or
energy
into
autonomous
vehicles
in
the
current
term
of
council,
because
I
think
we
know
bikes
are
a
proven
technology
that
have
been
with
us
for
many
many
decades,
whereas
autonomous
vehicles
do
not
really
exist.
So,
there's
a
hole
right
now
in
the
transportation
network
in
Ottawa.
F
And
if
we
were
to
you
know,
commit
in
the
term
of
council
priorities
to
creating
a
network
that
that
was
for
safe
streets,
healthy
streets,
Complete
Streets,
specifically
for
buses
for
people
walking
using
wheelchairs.
I.
Think
we
would
increase
the
economic
opportunities
of
Ottawa's
businesses
and
make
it
a
much
more
attractive
place
for
employees
of
Shopify
and
others.
A
H
Thank
you
and
I'll.
Keep
it
relatively
brief.
I
actually
just
want
to
pick
up
on
a
point
that
mr.
Hoshi
is
just
raised.
So
in
the
term
accounts
of
priorities
on
page
20,
we
speak
to
the
role
of
autonomous
vehicles
under
our
transportation
priorities
and
for
those
who
may
not
have
read
it.
The
action
is
to
support
our
stakeholders
in
the
advancement
of
the
city's
autonomous
vehicles,
initiative,
I,
think
I'm
on
the
same
page
as
mr.
Hoshi.
H
In
terms
of
wanting
to
hear
more
from
the
city
about
how
we're
thinking
about
autonomous
vehicles
within
our
transportation
network,
the
AV
test
track
that
we
have
is,
by
all
accounts
world-leading.
It
is
generating
significant
economic
activity
in
the
city.
I
congratulate
the
everyone
who
is
involved
with
that,
but
it
strikes
me
as
being
something
that
is
best
put
under
our
finance
and
economic
development
priorities.
How
are
we
going
to
develop
the
the
economy
of
this
city
as
opposed
to
a
transportation
priority?
H
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
us
who
would
assert
that
our
transportation
priority
for
the
city
needs
to
be
public
transit,
walking
cycling.
Those
are
the
keys
to
achieving
a
sustainable
transportation
system
in
Ottawa,
what
our
transportation
staff
thinking
about
the
role
of
a
v's
in
our
transportation
system
and
trying
to
make
that
more
sustainable,
because
I
I
don't
want
to
take
I,
don't
want
to
look
too
far
into
the
future,
because
the
technology
is
still
very
it's.
If
you,
you
know,
we
see
some
pretty
alarming
stuff
around
a
V's.
C
Chair
I
believe
the
the
response
to
your
question.
Counselor
comes
in
two
parts,
so,
on
the
higher
level
transportation
planning
aspect
through
the
TMP
we're
going
to
look
at
this
technology,
it
is
coming
down
the
it's
going
to
be
here
in
the
future,
so
we're
gonna,
look
at
and
establish
the
framework
how
we
can
pick
out
the
benefits,
the
value
of
that
technology
and
how
it
can
help.
C
The
second
part
of
your
question
relates
to
actually
the
the
work
that
the
city
is
doing
on
technology
and
why
it's
in
the
transportation
side,
rather
than
economic
development,
but
they
all
link
together
with
economic
development,
but
because
of
the
the
lead
in
the
the
what
you
see
here
in
the
term
of
council
a
priority
I'm
going
to
pass
it
over
to
mr.
Landry.
Do
you
respond
so.
B
In
terms
of
the
initiatives
that
were-
and
whites
in
this
group
is,
is
the
intent
was
to
ensure
that
you
know
we
have
a
state-of-the-art
traffic
control
system
that
communicates
with
all
our
traffic
lights,
and
we've
spent
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
to
ensure
that
we're
always
at
the
threshold
or
beyond,
where
where
most
municipalities
are
so
we
know
this
is
coming
down
the
pipe
and
at
this
point,
where
we're
putting
in
resources
to
test
the
technologies.
So
we
were
the
our
city's
a
live
test
infrastructure
from
a
traffic
light
to
a
vehicle.
B
So
we
want
to
continue
to
work
on
that
because
we
see
opportunities
in
the
future
where
a
vehicle
may
talk
to
our
traffic
signal.
So,
instead
of
having
detectors
in
the
road,
you
won't
need.
One
it'll
know
that
the
you
know
the
vehicle
it'd
be
a
bus
or
a
car
or
whatever
is
approaching
the
intersection,
so
it'll
it'll
reduce
potential
cost.
From
that
perspective,
we
also
you
know
it's
got
a
big
economic
development
like
you
mentioned,
and
we
want
to
ensure
that
you
know
we
are
participating
on
that.
B
We've
got
our
infrastructure
there,
so
we
want
to
provide
that
support,
because
there's
not
many
cities
in
the
in
the
world
that
have
that
ability
to
in
real
time,
provide
information
to
to
manufacturers
in
the
industry
and
we're
also
going
to
be
piloting.
I
know
in
the
Kannada
test
track
we're
going
to
be
having
a
smart
intersection
where
we
have
companies
coming
in
with
their
products.
B
At
our
traffic
light
to
be
able
to
detect,
you
know,
pedestrians
or
cyclists
or
vehicles,
we'll
have
some
things
that
are
in
the
asphalt
to
detect
temperatures
and
they're
all
connected
to
one,
so
it
all
becomes
an
ecosystem.
So
those
are
the
kind
of
projects
that's
focused
in
here.
This
also
ties
into
our
traffic
transportation
system
management
plan
is
approved
back
in
2012
or
2013,
where
one
of
the
emphasis
areas
was
working
with
technology
and
innovation.
So
this
aligns
very
well
with
with
that.
Okay.
H
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
as
the
years
go
by
we're,
not
we're
not
painting
a
lot
of
hopes
on
autonomous
vehicle
technology
and
associated
technologies
to
make
our
transportation
systems
sustainable
and
safe,
because
there
are
a
couple
of
references
to
it
as
well
in
a
row
safety
action
plan,
but
that
we
continue
to
keep
our
eye
on
the
ball
of
well
designed
streets
and
getting
cars
off
the
road
through
public
transit,
walking
and
cycling.
All
right
thanks,
Jeff.
G
Thanks
Jeff,
just
to
the
the
point
made
about
the
bike
sharing
program,
it's
a
disappointment
that
that
is
no
longer
in
our
city.
Now
you
give
me
information
on
and
how
we
might
get
a
bike
share
program
back
in
Ottawa
and
operating
I
know
that
the
the
scooters
we're
looking
it
looks
like
something
like
that
may
come
eventually.
But
can
you
give
me
more
information
about
how
we
can
facilitate
the
return
of
a
bike
share
program
in
the
city.
C
Chair
RTMP,
the
current
one
and
probably
the
next
one
too,
will
continue
to
have
the
policies
to
support
those
kinds
of
modes
of
transportation.
So
it's
just
that
we
are
not
putting
into
dollars
and
to
manage
and
be
responsible
for
the
program
because
there
are
private
in
the
private
sector.
There
are
those
that
can
provide
that,
so
our
focus
has
been
to
dedicate
the
funding
towards
building
the
infrastructure
and
having
somebody
else
provide
the
the
service
and
operate
it
and
maintain
it
and
so
on
for
those
bikes.
C
G
C
G
Just
seems
to
me,
if
all
of
our
goals
are
to
try
to
get
people
again
walking
biking
taking
transit.
It
may
make
strategic
sense
for
us,
especially
if
it's
fairly
cost
neutral
strategic
sense
for
us
to
try
to
set
something
up,
because
then
we're
not
at
the
whim
of
a
corporation
who
may
or
may
not
want
to
stay
here
or
place
them
in
certain
areas
where
we'd
like
to
see
them
in
other
areas.
C
If
I
can
just
step
back
and
history
and
just
give
you
a
bit
of
a
background,
how
the
first
pilot
Pro
check
that
pilot
bike-share
pilot
program
began,
so
the
NCC
took
that
on
and
but
before
they
did.
They
brought
in
an
expert
young
gal
from
Copenhagen.
He
came
and
he
looked
at
the
city
and
he
said
that
we
have
a
very
high
bike
ownership
here
already
in
the
city,
and
he
said
that
we
should
be
focusing
our
funds
on
building
the
safe
infrastructure.
C
The
NCC
went
ahead
to
test
the
pilot
program
for
bike
share
and
it
was
supposed
to
last
for
five
years
and
only
lasted
for
three
I
believe
and
then,
and
then
they
sold
that
to
to
the
other
vendor
who
continued
on
for
a
while.
So
it
does
require
funding
to
to
operate,
particularly
in
the
first
few
years
and
from
what
I
know
from
other
cities
that
it
is,
it
continues
to
require
funding,
it's
not
really
a
break-even
and
well.
C
We
would
like
to
see
bike
share
actually
in
the
suburbs
as
part
of
that
last
mile,
whereas
a
lot
of
companies
like
to
have
it
in
the
downtown
because
that's
where
the
people
are
and
but
in
the
downtown,
it's
already
walkable
and
we
have
good
transit
service.
So
so
we
will
try
to
develop
policies
to
encourage
this.
But
right
now
we
don't
have
a
plan
to
take
this
on,
but
that
let's
see
how
the
TMP
unfolds
and
how
we
can
get
people
to
move.
G
C
G
Yes,
Jericho
advised
that
we've
been
approached
by
three
three
bike
sharing
companies.
In
the
last
year,
we
had
two:
they
were
interested
in
operating
this
year,
but
ultimately,
as
Miss
she
said
chose
not
to
to
pursue,
despite
the
fact
that,
as
you
recall,
we
did
put
work
in
front
of
committee
earlier
this
year
that
would
provide
those
companies
to
operate
on
our
right
away.
G
Okay,
I
just
think
if
it's
a
bit
of
a
cost
for
us,
it's
worth
it
in
some
cases,
if
more
people
start
to
bike,
because
it's
such
a
savings
for
us
when
people
do
that
right,
taxpayers
save
money
when
people
bike,
so
it
it
is
something
I
think
we
should
potentially
look
at
bringing
in-house
III.
Think
I,
don't
think
we
should
continue
want
to
say
if
at
a
company's
whim,
it
should
be
something
we
do.
G
If
I
work
with
you
and
talk
with
you
some
more
about
this
and
just
see
if
we
can't
look
at
a
potential
change
and
that,
if
has
to
bring
emotion,
that's
fine
I'll
work
on
it,
but
leaving
it
up
to
one
company
to
decide
yay
or
nay.
This
doesn't
seem
to
make
sense
when,
especially
in
the
suburban
areas,
there's
a
lot
of
areas
where
we
could
use
this
type
of
infrastructure.
So
I'd
like
to
work
with
you
some
more
on
that
thanks
thanks
chair.
A
Councillor
Flores
motion
therefore
be
resolved
that
the
City
of
Ottawa
reaffirms
and
identifies
this
downtown
heavy
truck
traffic
issue
as
a
terma
council
priority
that
is
in
dire
need
of
a
solution
and
further
be
resolved.
The
City
of
Ottawa
work
closely
with
the
federal
government
on
its
reinitiation
of
a
new
interprovincial
crossing
study
and
other
related
studies
pertaining
to
strategic
transportation
planning
between
the
two
provinces.
So
motion
carried
carried,
thank
you
and,
on
the
term,
accounts
priorities
varied.
A
The
next
item
is
number
three,
which
is
the
budget
and
we
do
have
a
presentation
is
Belle
Jasmin,
the
deputy
treasurer
vvg,
director
of
transportation
planning,
Phil
Landry,
director
of
traffic
services,
Lela
Gibbons,
director
of
roads
and
parking
services,
Public
Works
and
environmental
services
and
Helene
gone
Shea.
Who
is
the
director
of
infrastructure
services.
J
So
the
total
operating
budget
for
this
committee
is
305
million
dollars
in
expenditures
for
a
net
tax
requirement
of
188
million
point
six.
If
we
go
line
by
line
the
gem
business
support
services,
the
net
tax
requirement
is
ten
point:
seven
million
Road
services,
which
includes
winter
and
road
maintenance,
has
expenditures
of
131
point
two
million
and
there's
recoveries
primarily
from
parking,
stormwater
and
transit
for
a
net
requirement
of
117
point.
Seven
parking
services
is
on
a
hundred
percent
cost
recovery
basis
the,
but
the
expenditure
budget.
For
that
one
is
17
million
transportation
planning.
J
I
So,
overall,
the
roads
budget
is
increasing
by
seven
point:
nine
million
dollars.
Some
of
the
key
highlights.
The
proposed
roads
budget
include
a
1.2
million
dollar
adjustment
for
compensation
for
the
2020
cost
of
living,
wage
and
salary
increments,
and
benefit
adjustments,
1.3
million
dollars
in
inflationary
increases
to
contracted
services,
materials
supplies
and
fleet.
There's
a
three
point:
$1,000,000
base
adjustment
to
the
winter
maintenance
budget,
which
includes
adjustments
for
road
modifications
and
the
site,
cycling
Network
program.
I
There's
a
six
hundred
thousand
dollar
base
budget
increase
to
the
ashphalt
repair
program,
bringing
the
total
budget
for
the
program
to
nine
point:
eight
million
dollars.
The
2020
draft
budget
also
includes
one
point:
one
point:
five
million
dollars
in
growth
funding
for
additional
maintenance
of
roadways,
sidewalks
and
pathways.
There
are
seven
point
three
for
FTEs
associated
with
this
growth,
along
with
nine
hundred
thirty
thousand
dollars
in
capital
funding
for
new
vehicles
and
equipment.
I
Looking
at
parking
services,
the
draft
budget
includes
1.1
million
dollars
in
growth
funding,
which
will
be
offset
by
increased
revenue.
As
with
the
2019
municipal
parking
management
strategy
refresh
and
the
governance
review
report
that
was
recently
brought
to
committee
and
council,
including
this
draft
budget
or
three
FTEs,
which
will
be
key
contributors
in
establishing
a
program
as
we
developed
the
bike
parking
strategy
so
specifically
for
Road
services,
winter
operations,
there's
a
5.6
million
dollar
budget
increase
for
2020,
bringing
the
total
budget
for
winter
operations
to
seventy
eight
point:
three
million
dollars.
I
This
represents
a
seven
point:
seven
percent
increase
when
compared
to
the
2019
budget
moving
into
2020.
If
the
draft
budget
is
passed
as
it
is
presented,
the
winter
operations
budget
will
be
adequately
funded
to
reflect
the
actual
expenditures
over
the
past
three
years,
so
2016
to
2018,
there's
also
one-time
funding
commitment
of
$250,000
contained
within
the
draft
budget.
These
funds
will
be
used
to
begin
the
review
of
the
winter
operations,
maintenance,
quality
standards,
which
will
focus
on
residential
roads
and
our
sidewalk
network.
J
So
the
total
draft,
a
budget
for
capital
for
this
committee,
is
337
point
four
million.
Seventy
three
percent
of
that
is
for
renewal
projects,
primarily
in
fleet
transportation
and
integrated
roads,
water
and
wastewater.
The
next
area
is
for
gross
in
primarily
for
transit
and
transportation
services
and
then
there's
a
six
boat,
6.8
million
dollars,
which
is
two
percent
of
the
overall
capital
budget
for
service
enhancements.
J
So
this
reflects
the
overall
funding
sources
of
the
337
point
four
million
dollars,
because
this
is
primarily
renewal.
A
lot
of
seventy
five
percent
of
the
budget
is
for
renewal
projects.
Much
of
it
comes
from
cash
reserves.
So
sixty
two
point:
two
percent
comes
from
cash
reserves
and
those
are
funds
that
are
contributed
to
the
reserves
as
part
of
the
operating
budget
each
year,
debt,
seventeen
point
three
percent
and
then
development
charges
on
the
growth
projects
of
twenty
point,
five
percent
or
sixty
nine
point:
three
million
dollars.
C
Okay,
this
slide
is
about
the
accounts
that
are
under
transportation
planning,
so
it's
mostly
about
they're
all
growth.
The
big
items
are
the
41
million
to
continue
funding
the
Strand
heard
Drive
widening
and
4.2
million
was
the
last
installment
that
we
need
to
keep
funding
to
finalize
the
funding
for
the
Kannada
south
link.
So
it
can
continue
with
its
construction.
Seven
point:
two:
five
million
is
for
intersection
of
control
measures
and
network
modification
program.
So
that's
the
helping
improve
capacity
around
intersections
where
growth
is
happening
for
development
and
then
thirteen
point.
C
Nine
million
is
for
transit,
priority
networks,
transit
corridor
protection,
Park
and
Ride
facilities
and
and
planning
studies,
so
that
is
related
to
the
transit
signed.
Nine
point:
1
million
we've
earmarked
for
active
transportation,
and
that
includes
a
whole
bunch
of
different
programs
that
you
see
listed
there
and
the
major
structures
program.
We've
got
funding
there
of
1.95,
it's
being
bundled
with
the
stage
2
project
for
the
Rideau
river
crossing
at
carleton.
You
know
versity,
then
the
last
one
that
I
have
here
is
two
million
for
traffic
calming
for
neighborhoods
of
local
streets.
C
B
In
terms
of
the
capital
Haley's
for
the
traffic
services
area,
so
there's
the
four
million
dollars
one-time
funding
for
the
road
safety
action
plan
that
was
approved
earlier
today,
we
have
2.4
million
for
the
new
traffic
control
devices.
So
this
allows
to
do
construction
at
barnesdale
and
prince
of
wales
as
well
as
hon,
Tamar
and
Richard
side
Road
next
year,
as
well
as
pedestrian
signal
at
Laurier
and
Percy.
We
have
just
over
a
million
dollars
for
safety
improvement
programs.
B
Then
we
have
600,000
for
the
audible
and
pedestrian
countdown
signal
programs,
foreign
and
20,000
for
safe
roads,
Ottawa,
380
thousand
for
the
pedestrian
safety
program,
one
hundred
and
five
thousand
dollars
for
cycling
safety,
which
allows
us
to
make
enhancements
to
10
locations.
We
also
have
the
pxo
program
for
half
a
million
dollars
and
then
there's
the
50
million
sorry,
the
$50,000
per
ward
LED
temporary
traffic
measures,
I'd
also
known
our
operating
budget.
We
also
last
for
10
growth
for
10
new
crossing
guard
locations.
K
So,
from
an
infrastructure
services
perspective,
the
transportation
assets
are
valued
at
over
13
billion
in
value
in
that
accounts
for
approximately
6,000
kilometers
I
wrote,
650
bridges,
2,700
kilometers
of
sidewalks
and
pathways,
and
the
facilities
are
required
to
support
the
delivery
of
quality
transportation
services.
These
emphasis
on
security
tie-ins
up
you
know
in
who
knew
zoning
that
first
adjust
on
the
risk.
If
they
don't
scale,
you
clearly
taste,
but
the
news
in
four
starts
only
please
thank
you
in
terms
of
managing
the
vast
transportation
network.
K
We
do
apply,
recognized
industry
practices
and
we're
continuing
and
looking
at
ways
of
improving
how
we're
building
roads,
maintaining
roads
and
also
renewed
renewing
those
assets.
So
a
few
highlights
that
I
wanted
to
point
out
in
terms
of
what's
in
the
Transportation
Committee
budget,
we
have
51
million
that's
allocated
for
resurfacing
of
roads,
which
also
includes
preservation,
treatments,
rural
road
upgrades
and
guide
rails,
and
about
half
of
those
investments
are
in
our
rural
wards.
We
have
35
million,
that's
allocated
to
renewing
existing
bridges,
and
those
are
bridges
that
cut
across
the
city.
K
K
Finally,
we
have
a
hundred
and
eleven
million
that's
allocated
for
the
reconstruction
of
roads.
That's
basically
integrated
projects
where
we're
reconstructing
the
road,
the
road,
the
water
mains
and
the
and
the
sewers.
The
most
significant
project
in
2020
is
Montreal
Road
from
essentially
North
River
Road
to
San
LeBron
Boulevard,
a
multi-year
project
below.
We
also
have
a
number
of
other
projects,
as
listed
on
this
slide.
That
covers
different
parts
of
the
city.
A
K
We've
allocated
about
$1,000,000
for
the
stabilization
of
the
170
for
the
section.
That's
along
your
water
river,
that
over
the
2017
and
2019
floods
has
seen
significant
erosion
impacts
where
we
were
able
to
address
on
an
emergency
basis.
But
after
the
water
receded
or
additional
areas
that
were
identified
in
terms
of
continued
erosion
that
we
need
to
address
and.
A
K
A
L
L
Okay,
thank
you.
I'm
Ken
Holmes,
a
resident
of
West
Carlton
I,
remain
concerned
about
the
deteriorated
condition
of
our
roads
for
three
main
reasons.
First
of
all,
as
a
taxpayer,
I've
invested
in
inventory
that
we
now
assess
at
a
value
of
about
13
billion
I
want
that
value
retained
automotive
Association's
advise
me
that
the
deteriorated
condition
of
our
roads
is
costing
me
as
a
car
owner
an
additional
three
hundred
dollars
a
year
in
maintenance
and
repair.
And
thirdly,
the
further
delays
in
conducting
routine
and
preventive
maintenance
is
resulting
in
cause.
L
L
L
Had
we
dealt
with
these
roads
at
an
earlier
stage,
he
had
we
sufficiently
budgeted
for
that
activity.
Routine
maintenance
could
have
helped
extend
their
life
at
a
fraction
of
the
investment
that
will
now
be
required
to
rebuild
the
road
and
some
estimated
a
cost
increase
approaching
400
percent
of
what
routine
maintenance
would
be,
as
we
were
regularly
reminded
by
the
national
capital.
Heavy
construction
Association
pay
me
now
or
pay
me
later
after
many
years
of
deferred
maintenance,
we
must
now
heavily
pay
or
we
must
now
pay
heavily
as
a
consequence.
L
One
of
their
useful
guides
is
a
yardstick
to
estimating
the
annual
reinvestment
required
to
maintain
the
roads
infrastructure.
In
an
over
simplification,
they
say
that
about
2
percent
of
the
value
of
the
infrastructure
needs
to
be
reinvested
on
an
annual
basis
if
we
hope
to
avoid
a
decline
over
the
long
period
since
amalgamation
we've
only
invested
about
half
that
amount.
Is
it
any
wonder
that
much
of
our
road
inventory
is
in
poor
condition.
L
Looking
at
some
benchmarks,
the
average
Canadian
city
is
spending
about
1.1
percent
of
the
value
of
their
roads.
Infrastructure
Ottawa
would
likely
have
to
spend
more
than
the
average
due
to
our
difficult
winters
and
as
long
as
we're
playing
catch-up
from
years
of
neglect
of
the
roads.
So
how
much
does
road
maintenance
budget
for
Ottawa
or
how
does
it
compare
with
other
cities?.
L
From
the
from
the
draft
budget
and
information
the
staff
has
given
me,
I
can't
definitively
determine
how
much
money
is
being
directed
strictly
to
road
maintenance,
as
the
budget
document
rules
up
roads,
sidewalks
and
other
structures
into
a
single
item.
Looking
at
the
red
arrow
well
have
encourage
of
the
budget.
This
year
is
the
third
consecutive
budget
that
allocates
a
notable
increase.
L
We
are
still
only
spending
about
half
of
the
Cir
a/c
recommended
amount,
a
glance
at
the
blue
arrow.
That's
the
long-range
financial
plan.
2002
figure
shows
a
plan
to
fund
road
maintenance
at
1.5%.
I
have
confidence
in
that
figure
because
it
was
developed
as
a
result
of
review
of
the
detailed
documents
from
the
11
former
municipalities.
If
we
were
estimating
we
needed
1.5
percent
15
years
ago,
how
can
we
do
with
1/3
less
today?
L
To
conclude,
I
do
not
have
confidence
that
we
have
brought
that
we
will
be
able
to
bring
up
most
of
Ottawa's
roads
to
a
good
standard
within
7
to
10
years.
We
don't
have
a
focal
plan
that
I
can
see
to
do
so.
We
have
a
comprehensive
asset
management
plan
and
that
provides
excellent
overall
management
for
the
city's
infrastructure,
but
we
need
focus.
L
My
main
recommendation
today
is
that
we
need
an
approved
plan
to
properly
manage
the
return
of
our
roads
to
an
acceptable
condition.
We
need
a
roads,
get
well
program
that
prioritizes
the
work
across
all
the
areas
includes
a
good
set
of
measurable
performance
targets
and
is
adequately
funded.
Such
a
plan
would
lately
be
part
of
the
comprehensive
asset
management
plan,
but
it
would
allow
residents
and
staff
the
benefit
of
focus
on
a
major,
significant
deficiency
in
the
city.
The
condition
of
our
roads.
M
Thank
you,
Thank
You
mr.
chair,
and
thank
you
mr.
Holm,
for
making
making
the
journey
to
present
to
the
committee
today.
Obviously,
we
heard
your
presentation
before
and
some
of
the
number
I'm
not
sure
if
but
I
would
ask
staff
with
your
permission,
mr.
chair,
to
verify
some
of
the
number
we
seen
because
there
is
an
increase
in
the
road
budget
year
after
year.
I
believe
we
do
have
a
plan.
We
can
reach
it
in
seven
years.
Mr.
Holm
was
in
my
budget
meeting
and
asked
specific
to
a
staff.
So
if
mr.
K
Yet
charity,
in
terms
of
the
plan
that
councils
are
already
approved
in
2017,
which
is
the
comprehensive
asset
management
plan
that
mr.
Holm
referenced.
That
document
is
very
much
aligned
with
the
long
range
of
an
agile
plan
and
what
that
what
the
asset
management
plan
shows
that
it
there
is
a
shortfall
in
terms
of
investments.
K
So
the
plan
that
council
already
has
is
a
plan
to
get
them
to
you,
stability
and,
where
we're
able
to
catch
up
with
the
rate
of
deterioration
it
doesn't,
but
it
doesn't
mean
that
suddenly,
all
the
roads
are
going
to
be
have
been
removed
in
all
immaculate
condition.
It
just
means
that
we're
able
to
manage
the
rate
of
deterioration
at
that
point.
Okay,.
M
Thank
you,
mr.
Godsey,
mr.
homn
I
have
asked
you
before
and
I'll.
Ask
you
again?
Do
you
have
any
idea
about?
You
know
cost-saving
measure
where
we
or
do
you
have
an
idea?
How
much
we
know
we
can
spend
more,
which
you
serve
all
day
long.
We
can
spend
a
lot
more
when
we
are
spending
on
everything,
but
there's
enough
for
affordability
in
place
as
well.
L
Think
the
challenge
is
not
just
to
the
the
residents
and
the
taxpayers,
but
it's
also
to
counsel
and
the
councillors
to
have
an
array
of
options.
So
if
we
recognize
and
I
think
as
a
result
of
discussions
that
I
heard
at
the
last
election,
the
majority
of
the
councillors
and
the
mayor
are
acknowledging
that
our
roads
are
in
bad
shape
and
need
to
be
improved.
L
Well,
that
needs
to
be
translated
and
transferred
the
appropriate
staff
to
get
concurrence,
that
there
is
a
problem
to
recognize
and
accept
what
are
reasonable
objectives
and
goals
and
then
have
the
staff
present
some
options.
I
know
the
staff
has
has
changed
some
of
their
technical
solutions
to
to
repaving
the
rural
roads,
and
that
seems
to
be
a
good
solution.
It
is
workable
and
it
is
cost-saving.
We
probably
have
other
advantages
that,
but
that
needs
to
be
all
part
of
a
package
that
staff
can
present
back
to
the
Transportation
Committee
back
to
Council.
L
To
say
here
are
some
options
that
you
can
consider
amongst
which
to
choose
the
best
solution.
It's
not
reasonable
to
come
to
the
average
taxpayer
and
say
you
know:
what
is
your
solution?
That's
why
we
have
a
huge
city
staff
at
a
competent
council
chamber
to
understand
those
problems,
they're
aware
of
options
and
make
decisions.
Mr.
M
Home
staff
did
give
us
the
option
and
Council
and
the
mayor
choose
to
seal
that
at
three
percent
tax
increase
and
I.
Think
most
of
us
can
live
with
that,
but
at
the
same
time
the
affordability
plan
has
to
be
in
place.
But
since
you
don't
have
any
idea
I
thank
you
for
coming
and
give
us
your
presentation.
Thank
you,
sir.
A
A
N
Drivin
Ottawa
and
we've
really
been
having
a
lot
of
trouble
in
the
last
few
winters
with
the
city
and
sidewalk
clearing.
We
try
to
be
patient
and
understanding
if
it's
still
snowing,
but
you
know
we
take
a
B
to
school
in
a
wheelchair
and
it's
really
a
struggle
to
get
her
there.
A
lot
of
mornings
and
no
longer
the
sidewalk
clearers
wait
the
more
the
ice
builds
up.
Then
it
gets
a
little
melty
and
it's
just
it's
really
difficult
to
get
her
to
school.
Abby
loves
school
and
it's
disappointed.
N
Go
so
yeah,
do
you
like
school?
Who
brings
you
to
school,
mom
Bergen,
see
to
school
yeah?
So
sometimes
it's
really
a
struggle
to
get
her
there
socially
to
get
her
there
on
time,
and
you
know
we
just
I
think
that
it's
not
just
us.
There
are
a
lot
of
people
out
in
the
city
that
have
that
have
mobility
issues.
Excuse
me,
there
are
a
lot
of
people
in
this
city
who
struggle
with
mobility
and
who
can't
get
out
of
their
houses.
N
They
can't
do
the
things
that
they
need
to
do
in
the
day,
so
I
would
love
for
the
city
to
really
prioritize
our
sidewalks
and,
and
you
know,
take
better
care
of
their
citizens.
You
know
this
week
was
really
a
struggle
so
far,
and
it's
just
starting
I
mean
it's
the
middle
of
November,
so
you
know
I'm,
already
tired
thinking
about
the
struggles
that
it's
gonna
be
this
winter.
If
the
city
isn't
better
at
getting
the
sidewalks
cleared
more
quickly,
so
that
people
can
get
out
and
live
their
lives
and
contribute
to
their
communities.
F
So
yeah,
just
such
a
great
video
that
basically
emphasizes
the
fact
that
we
need
to
do
more.
We
need
to
do
better
and
I
know
that
people
here
at
City
Hall
aren't
bad
people,
but
I
humbly
submit
that
sometimes
bad
decisions
are
being
made
and
one
of
them
is
to
prioritize
at
a
higher
degree
of
a
service
standard,
the
roads
over
the
sidewalks
in
terms
of
snow
clearing.
So
we
know
that
to
bring
the
sidewalks
up
to
the
same
standard
would
cost
about
seven
million
dollars
a
year
which
isn't
actually
much
money.
F
When
you
consider
multiple
billion
dollar
budget.
We
know
that
the
city
has
this
commitment
to
equity
and
inclusion,
and
the
equity
and
inclusion
lens
should
be
applied
to
every
single
decision
made
here
at
City
Hall,
and
so
it's
unclear
how
that
was
made.
With
regard
to
these
two
level
of
standards,
we
have
been
suggesting
that
the
city
could
take
a
more
equitable
approach
to
bring
the
sidewalks
up
to
this
higher
standard.
F
We
know
that
many
of
us
visited
City
Hall
in
March,
so
the
story
on
the
left
there
was
from
the
2019
budget
discussions
at
this
committee,
and
many
of
us
left
feeling
disappointed
that
we're
gonna
have
to
wait
three
years
for
this
service
standard
review
to
take
place.
We
were
grateful
that
the
draft
budget
included
a
commitment
to
spend
2.9
million
dollars
more
on
the
sidewalks.
We
just
need
another
4.1
million
to
bring
it
up
to
the
class
1a
standard.
F
So
that's
what
I'm
aging
this
committee
to
voice
their
support
for
and
to
make
it
happen.
I
know
that
with
political
will,
this
money
could
be
found.
I'm,
urging
all
of
the
people
on
this
committee
with
the
power
to
bring
that
political
will
to
the
table.
To
do
so
will
benefit
greatly
from
hearing
from
Steven
later
who's
highlighted
in
this
Ottawa
Citizen
story
on
the
right.
He
had
an
awful
experience
last
winter
and
John
Woodhouse
who's
on
the
board
of
the
healthy
transportation
coalition.
F
He
was
here
previously
as
well
today
and
he's
often
having
to
take
his
motorized
wheelchair
onto
the
road,
because
the
sidewalks
are
in
pop
and
passable
literally
putting
his
life
at
risk.
This
is
another
story
from
this
past
February.
We
know
it
was
a
bad
winter
and
we
know
that
when
standards
aren't
the
same
for
the
roads
and
the
sidewalks
people
that
face
multiple
barriers,
their
lives
are
made
even
worse.
F
F
There
is
a
commitment
to
equity
in
Ottawa
at
City
Hall,
which
is
great.
It
would
be
great
if
Ottawa
had
learned
from
what
Stockholm
is
doing,
which
is
that
they've
decided
to
emphasize
and
prioritize
the
clearing
of
sidewalks,
because
it's
a
gender
issue,
a
gender
equity
issue
for
them.
So
we
would
urge
Ottawa
to
adopt
a
similar
policy
and
many
people.
Hundreds
of
people
have
voiced
their
support
for
these
needed
improvements.
We
had
other
budget
priorities,
some
of
them
were
addressed,
but
I've
run
at
a
time,
so
I'll
just
leave
it.
There.
G
F
Kevin
Wiley
and
I
had
some
correspondence
via
email,
because
I
found
it
frustrating
as
a
resident
not
getting
clear
answers
from
the
good
people
here
in
the
past
on
how
much
it
would
cost
to
actually
fix
the
situation
and
through
that
correspondence,
I
learned
that
it's
around
seven
million
I
think
you
know
it's
not
a
hundred
percent
accurate
and
it
might
take
years
before
we
get
a
hundred
percent
accurate
number,
but
that's
the
best
guess
and
I
think
we
should
take
the
next
best
step
and
we
should
do
this.
Yeah.
G
F
That's
my
understanding,
I'm,
not
a
sidewalk
clearing
maintenance
expert,
but
my
understanding
is
that
it's
the
same
standard
as
what's
being
applied
to
the
roads,
and
it
would
basically
just
mean
that
whenever
there's
a
heavy
snowfall,
crews
are
out
quickly
clearing
that
snow
and
they're,
not
letting
it
accumulate
and
they're
bringing
it
down
to
yeah.
It's
close
to
a
bare
surface
as
possible.
Okay,.
F
You
know
I'm,
aware
of
the
things
that
you've
just
mentioned
happening,
I'm,
aware
that
there's
a
desire
to
improve
things
from
from
where
things
were
at
last
winter,
which
was
horrendous,
I'm
aware
that
there's
an
extra
two
point:
nine
million
dollars
proposed
in
the
budget
budget
specifically
for
improving
sidewalks
I,
think
to
get
to
where
we
need
to
go.
We
need
that
seven
million
dollars,
so
it's
4.1
million
dollars
more
than
what
was
proposed
in
the
draft
budget.
F
P
The
chair
would
indulge
I'm
wondering
if,
if
mr.
Landry
might
be
able
to
spend
a
moment
talking
about
the
review
that
was
done
this
summer
and
what
upgrades
to
our
to
our
program
when
it
comes
to
clearing
sidewalks
has
accomplished
over
the
course
of
the
summer
and
what
we're
about
to
embark
upon
this
winter.
Hi.
I
I'll
actually
take
that
one
that
was
through
Road
services,
so
we
did
complete
a
service
delivery
review
this
past
summer.
We
did
hear
loud
and
clear
from
our
residents
from
the
counselors
on
the
concerns
that
we
have
had
over
the
past
years,
particularly
through
the
extreme
winter
conditions.
Last
year
we
did,
we
did
come
to
committee
with
a
number
of
changes
that
we're
going
to
be
putting
into
place
this
year
ahead
of
the
maintenance
quality
standard
review.
I
Some
of
it
is
we've
redeployed
over
50
staff
to
ensure
that
we
now
have
24/7
coverage
on
our
sidewalk
networks.
During
and
after
a
storm,
it
is
still
within
our
maintenance
quality
standards.
So,
yes,
the
class
one
is
bare
pavement.
Other
classes
are
a
snow
pack,
but
with
with
having
the
redeployment
to
overnight
services,
we
are
able
to
get
onto
the
sidewalk
networks
sooner
during
an
event
to
hopefully
not
get
to
the
conditions
that
we've
seen
in
the
past.
Some
of
the
other
things
that
we're
doing
we've
moved
away
from
a
one-size-fits-all
approach.
I
We're
now
empowering
our
supervisors
to
make
the
decisions
on
when
to
deploy
based
on
the
conditions
that
they're
seeing
in
their
areas
as
well
as
creating
hotspots.
So
we
initially
started
to
look
at
just
catch
basins
and
we
quickly
realized
that
we
need
to
add
in
areas
where
there
are
mobility
concerns,
seniors
homes,
schools,
things
like
that
and
we're
documenting
it
on
our
hotspot
map,
so
that
we
can
offer
some
additional
care.
During
those
events.
I
Absolutely
what
we're
getting
away
from
doing
reviews
and
making
the
changes
and
then
shelving
it
for
us,
it's
it's
a
terms
of
continuous
improvement.
We
want
to
hear
what
the
concerns
are.
We
want
to
hear
from
our
residents,
particularly
through
the
consultation
process,
that
we
will
be
starting
next
year
for
the
maintenance
quality
service
review.
We
will
ask
individuals
to
come
out
talk
to
us
about
what
what
they're,
seeing
what
they're
wanting
so
that
we
can
come
back
to
Council
with
a
very
fulsome
report.
Let's.
Q
Good
afternoon
mr.
Chaplin
and
all
the
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
Christine
Saturday
I
am
a
resident
of
Vani,
a
member
and
a
volunteer
with
Kiwi
City
for
all
woman
initiative
and
the
healthy
transportation
coalition.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
2.9
million
more
for
winter
maintenance
in
the
City
of
Ottawa
draft
budget
2020
that
was
dedicated
to
sidewalk
clearing,
but
today,
I'm
here
to
infinite
to
invest
4.1
million
more
to
bring
the
snow
clearing
at
a
grace
class-one
a
standard
for
all
sidewalk
in
Ottawa.
Q
Q
I
was
worried
about
my
safety
as
a
pedestrian
and
was
worried
about
getting
injured
due
to
a
falling
or
slipping
during
the
winter
of
2018
and
19
was
trapped
a
few
times
in
my
house
unable
to
access,
transit,
grocery
stores
and
other
services
due
to
a
lack
of
snow
removal
and
salt
or
sand
on
the
sidewalk.
Last
year.
There's
no
bang
were
sometimes
two
feet,
I
or
and
more
in
front
of
the
bus.
Q
Stop
had
to
ask
someone
to
ask
me:
enter
the
bus
and
to
get
out
of
the
bus
to
make
sure
I
didn't
fall.
Snow
ice
clearing
severely
impact
my
ability
to
move
around
the
city
during
the
winter.
This
is
what
I
would
like
to
see
from
the
Transportation
Committee
bring
the
snow
clearing
standard
of
the
sidewalk
in
the
City
of
Ottawa
to
a
klase
class.
1-A
standard
commit
a
seven
million
a
year
to
bring
winter
sidewalk
maintenance
to
a
class
one
a
standard
each
year,
starting
in
the
budget.
Q
2020
take
an
equitable
approach
to
snow
clearing,
redevelop
the
snow,
clearing
settle
to
prioritize
sidewalk,
clearing,
/
Road
clearing
and
prioritize
the
mobility
of
Ottawa
most
venerable
resident.
Thank
you
for
listening
and
I'm
waiting
for
the
your
decision.
In
respond
to
my
concern
and
a
concern
of
my
community
committee
community.
Thank
you.
A
R
J
R
R
R
120
event
we
encouraging
viz.
Yet
we
are
the
prepare
for
this
charity.
It
doesn't
mean
whoever
went
to
write
that
everywhere.
We
could
be
covered
in
January,
but
we
has
to
be
prepared
for
the
worst.
So
I
very
well
work
increased
customer
standard
chasm
for
the
past
7
years
that
the
gentleman
this
morning
I
had
the
tape
the
roads
we
get
there
safe
and
now
I
want
appointed
inspector
and
does
anyone
have
any
one
to
give
me
a
one-word
description
of
that
pitching.
R
R
R
A
O
You
very
much
for
your
presentation
and
I
agree
with
you
be
common
sense
for
this.
So
if
the
chair
allow
maybe
Lila,
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
me
like
how
could
a
plow
come
down
there,
there's
no
place
for
the
plow
to
turn
around
without
completing
the
street.
So
how
could
something
like
this
happen?.
R
O
I
So
through
the
chair
we
did
there
were
a
few
incidents
that
came
in
during
our
first
event,
what
we're
doing
moving
into
this
year's
we're
having
pre
event,
meetings
and
post
event
meetings.
So
we
did
look
into
all
of
these
circumstances
that
were
brought
to
our
attention.
There
was
a
mix
of
of
concerns
whether
it
was
broken
equipment,
whether
it
was
new
staff
that
were
on
whether
it
was
training
issues.
We
are
looking
closely
at
what
the
cause
of
any
incidents
like
this
was
I
actually
believe.
I
This
one
was
a
piece
of
equipment
that
broke
down
on
that
corner,
but
we
will
be
doing
post
event
debriefs
all
the
time
to
look
at
some
of
the
concerns.
Contract
management
is
very
important
to
us.
We
have
done
some
recent
training
with
our
staff
to
ensure
that
we
are
holding
our
account.
Our
contractors
accountable,
as
well
as
holding
our
staff
accountable
for
the
works
that
they
do
so
we
are
taking
these
very
seriously
and
and
having
the
conversations.
Okay.
H
H
I
mean
it
just
if
that
was
plowed.
At
the
same
time,
then
there
would
have
been
absolutely
no
reason
not
to
have
these
last
couple
of
feet.
Feet
done
thanks
for
showing
that
I
know,
my
office
will
be
having
our
usual
snow
meeting
with
with
the
team
coming
up
soon
and
we'll
make
sure
that
this
is
raised
with
part
of
that
thanks
Steven.
I
We
have
a
process
in
place
that
we've
we've
had
pre
meetings
with
the
contractors,
so
that's
phase
one
and
that's
just
to
set
our
expectations
in
place
as
we
move
on.
If
there
are
concerns
with
contractors
and
I
can't
recall
if
this
was
a
contractor
or
not.
If
there
are
concerns
with
contractors,
we
bring
them
in
and
we
document,
and
then
we
have
the
ability
to
either
withhold
funds
or
pull
the
contracts.
I
D
D
M
B
I
You
basically
have
the
roads,
roads
and
parking
services
staff
who
manage
it
on
roadways,
sidewalks,
the
winter
maintenance
of
pathways,
and
then
you
have
park
staff
who
take
care
of
parking
lots
and
our
recreation
facilities,
fire
stations,
paramedic
posts,
libraries,
things
like
that,
so
I
believe
it
is
only
the
two
groups:
I,
don't
believe,
I'm
missing
any
unless
there's
another
group
that
does
it
just
for
their
particular
buildings.
There.
D
Think
I
think
there's
a
some
coordination
like
this
is
a
very
specific
case
but
I
think
I.
What
I've
seen
is
coordination
issues
between
even
internal
groups
and
external
group.
We'll
go.
Do
the
sidewalk,
then
someone
overnight
will
come
and
do
the
bus
stop,
which
creates
that
environment.
We
get
that
at
part,
City
parking
lots
to
where
we're
pushing
the
snow
in
spots
where
it
then
blocks
the
sidewalk.
G
C
G
I'll
ask
this
every
budget
on
Road
expansions
and
widening
x'
yeah,
we'll
talk
about
bike
lanes
too,
so
don't
need
to
get
upset.
I
also
want
to
just
discuss
with
you
around
the
the
issues
that
have
been
raised
with
the
snow,
clearing
budget
and
the
deficit
that
we
were
in
from
last
year.
So
I
just
want
to
clarify
the
deficit
from
the
snow
clearing
budget
last
year
was
it?
Was
it
15
million
that
I
saw,
or
was
it
a
different
figure
than
that
are.
G
I
G
I
Last
year
was
an
extreme
winter.
We
are
going
into
2020,
as
I
mentioned.
If
budget
has
passed
as
presented
with
the
7.9
million
dollar
increase
to
our
budget,
which
includes
both
base
adjustments
and
growth,
we
should
be
fully
funded
to
support
the
budgets
that
we've
seen
over
the
past
three
years.
So
the
seventy
eight
point,
three
million
dollars
actually
reflects
the
actual
expenditures
that
we
had
seen
2016
to
2018.
So
if
we
experience
a
winter
like
we
had
during
those
three
years,
we
should
be
on
budget
the
twenty.
I
If
we
do
see
extreme
weather
conditions
again
this
year,
there
is
a
potential
that
we
could
be
an
excess
again,
hoping
that,
with
the
changes
that
we've
made
through
the
service
delivery
review
and
how
we
have
changed
our
boundaries
and
the
way
we
deploy,
we
should
be
able
to
manage
the
budget
moving
into
2020.
Okay,.
J
G
It's
just
theoretically,
then,
if,
for
example,
we
we
went
forward
that
class
one
on
our
sidewalks
and
we
said
we
need
that
extra
four
million
to
get
there
and
that
came
from
the
tax
Stabilization
Reserve
that
I
guess,
theoretically,
that's
where
it
would
put
they
come
from
depends
on
the
motion
or
murder
yeah,
which
is
also
for
emergencies.
I,
understood,
I,
understand
we
have
side
conversations
happening
here,
you
can't
hear,
but
if,
if,
if
we
did
do
that,
would
in
your
estimation,
would
we
get
better
results
on
our
on
our
sidewalks?
G
I
Think,
with
some
of
the
changes
that
we've
made
this
year,
particularly
with
having
24/7
coverage
now
dedicated
staff
on
our
sidewalk
network,
we
will
see
a
difference
in
the
conditions
and
with
the
equipment
that
we
use
moving
into
2020
we're
actually
GPS
in
all
of
our
sidewalk
units.
So
we
will
be
able
to
have
better
data
to
determine
what
the
actual
costs
are.
G
It's
very
helpful
to
both
the
GPS
piece.
I
know:
you've
mentioned
that
to
us
as
well
beforehand,
I
just
think
to
myself.
If
we're
gonna
be
dipping
into
that
stabilization
reserve.
If
we,
if
there
is
an
overage,
does
it
make
sense
for
us
to
say,
invest
in
something
like
this
in
advance,
which
may
help
mitigate
any
problems
we
have
in
the
future,
because
I
guess
to
get
to
one
to
that
class
one
on
our
sidewalks?
What
does
that
take?
Is
that?
G
I
Would
absolutely
take
more
resources,
it
would
be
getting
onto
the
sidewalk
network
networks
sooner
and
more
often,
and
it
depends
on
the
we
also
in
our
yards
at
this
point
in
time-
have
access
to
salt
sand
and
grit.
It's
possibility
that
there
would
be
more
use
of
salt
on
our
sidewalks.
If
we
had
to
look
at
bare
pavement,
so
I
think
it's
really
again,
like
I,
said
more
prudent
for
us
to
come
back
with
a
fulsome
report
to
let
you
know
what
those
options
are
and
what
that
cost
would
be
going
forward.
G
Pleased
to
hear
about
the
overnight
piece
appreciate
that
and
I
guess:
I
guess
it's
just
the
suggestion
is:
is
there
anything
that
that
four
million
could
do
to
mitigate
some
of
the
problems
we
already
we've
had
in
the
past
winters
where
we've
gone
over?
Would
that
help
in
any
way
mitigate
some
of
the
other
costs
we're
seeing
on
thinking
in
front
of
for
freeze-thaw
cycles,
for
example,
or
in
front
of
bus
stops
or
areas
where
councillors
say?
Look
you
got
to
get
back
out
here
again.
G
I
Think
what
we
were
looking
at
continuous
improvement,
so
throughout
the
winter
we
are
going
to
make
sure
that
we
are
clearing
the
sidewalks
if
we
do
see
concerns
with
free
salt.
That
may
be
a
conversation
at
that
point
in
time
where
we
say
that
we
may
be
in
a
deficit
because
of
the
extreme
conditions
again
right
now,
it
is
an
add-on
to
for
us
to
schedule
on
top
of
the
changes
that
we've
made
to
schedule
additional
either
staffing
resources
or
contractors.
I.
I
Don't
think
that
we're
in
a
good
position
right
now
to
say
that
that's
what's
required,
I
do
want
to
see
how
these
changes
from
service
delivery
review
affect
our
sidewalk
network.
We
we
do
propose
that
it's
going
to
be
better
service,
that's
being
offered
moving
into
this
winter,
but
we
are
always
open
to
looking
at
other
ideas
as
the
conditions
change.
Okay,.
S
M
S
M
S
If
we're,
if
we're
looking
to
introduce
some
over
the
next
little
while,
including
in
the
next
short
term
budget,
do
we
have
money
put
aside
in
this
budget
or
do
we
have
plans
and
upcoming
budgets
to
provide
the
infrastructure?
Because
it's
not
just
the
vehicles
we
need,
but
it's
the
infrastructure
to
maintain
them.
M
So
far,
sorry,
so
how
we've
been
using
the
grid
grid
fleet
fund?
That's
been
funded
from
2016
to
2018.
We
still
have
money
live,
so
we've
been
using
that
for
the
four
vehicles
were
bringing
it
right
in
and
now
moving
forward
as
we're
going
to
build
that
fleet.
That
would
be
a
collaboration
or
infrastructure
to
build
these
facilities,
but
I
can't
say
we
had
those
conversations
yet
because
we
had
the
money
so
far.
You.
S
M
S
M
So
the
plan
in
December
is
gonna,
come
in
with
targets
that
we'll
have
to
achieve,
and
based
on
that,
we
will
update
our
plan,
see
how
we
can
get
there
with
the
technology
that
exists
today,
and
we
do
that.
We
still
work
in
the
details,
but
we
need
that
every
year,
based
on
the
development
of
what's
going
to
come
forward,
I.
S
Look
forward
to
some
more
concrete
and
I
know
you're
new,
so
no
pressure
on
you
right
now,
but
maybe
we
can
get
some
more
updates
on
where
we're
at
and
an
actual
plan
with
measurements
and
milestones
attached
to
it.
And
if
that
comes
as
part
of
the
climate
change
report,
then
that
would
be
beneficial,
but
it
would
be
good
to
have
that
at
least
for
next
budget
cycle.
Thank
you.
Yes,.
C
And
I
do
have
a
chair,
a
few
more
numbers
in
front
of
me
that
to
date
we
have
a
hundred
and
three
hybrid
vehicles
for
electric
ice,
resurfacer
x',
one
plug-in
hybrid
and
forty
three
hybrid.
On
order,
I'd
like
to
remind
the
committee
that
our
fleet
includes
heavy
vehicles,
fire
trucks,
ambulances
like
vehicles
and
specialized
equipment.
So,
for
example,
eighty
two
ambulance
is
105
fire
trucks.
Four
hundred
and
fifty
two
heavy
vehicles
which
at
present
are
not
candidates
for
greening.
Due
to
the
nature
of
the
vehicles.
C
A
O
You
mr.
chair
a
couple
of
questions
to
staff,
but
first,
if
I
could
ask
the
treasure
before
council
before
we
deal
with
the
budget,
would
it
be
possible
to
get
a
definition
of
what
the
tax
Stabilization
Fund
is,
so
that
folks
know
it's
not
like
a
cookie
jar
that
we
have
to
empty
out
that
it
comes
to
help
like
councillor,
Allison
theory
and
and
councillor
play
last
year,
had
real
emergencies
that
that
money
had
to
go
for.
J
O
That's
very
worrisome,
so
we'll
definitely
be
talking
about
the
reserves
at
budget
meeting
so
for
staff.
A
couple
of
questions
to
do
with
the
transportation
budget
I
noticed
in
there
that
you're
looking
for
a
twelve
point,
six
new
staff,
seven
point
three
will
be
four
I'm,
not
gonna.
Ask
you
how
you
get
the
point.
P
Kara,
so
this
some,
this
was
part
of
the
municipal
parking
management
strategy
refresh,
which
was
tabled
and
approved
in
October.
To
this
point,
staff
have
been
managing
by
parking
the
insulation
and
a
maintenance
of
bike
parking
more
or
less
on
the
side.
We
have
our
duties
within
parking
services
which
relate
to
maintaining
our
facilities
and
then,
as
we've
had
capacity
to
do
so,
we've
installed
and
maintained
a
bike
bike
parking
that
exists
and,
as
the
quantity
of
bike
parking
has
increased,
it's
been
harder
and
harder
to
keep
up
with
that.
P
So
the
intention
of
the
three
FTEs
that
were
identified
in
October
and
are
part
of
the
budget.
The
intention
is
to
start
to
define
a
designated
program
which
will
allow
us
to
better
to
stay
on
top
of
the
requirements
and
put
us
all
in
a
good
position.
We're
Delft
developing
a
bike
parking
strategy
so
to
start
to
execute
the
requirements
now
and
then
implement
the
strategy
when
it
comes
up
next
year.
So.
P
O
P
Here
the
the
staff
identified,
the
three
FTS
identified
would
be
located
within
parking
services
and
and
the
benefit
there
is
that
the
they
are,
the
cost
of
those
staff
come
out
of
the
parking
fee
revenues
and
there
will
be
cross
abilities
for
them
to
serve
other
purposes,
but
the
focus
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
fulfill
the
requirements.
We
have
around
the
bike
parking.
Okay,.
O
Thank
you
now.
My
other
question
is
to
do
with
the
16.8
million
to
replace
water
main
sue
in
Montreal
Road
from
North
River
Road
to
Saint
Laurent,
one
of
the
things
you're
listing
the
money
for
is
buried,
powerlines
and
I'm.
Just
wondering
why
we're
doing
that
when
in
Kanata
north
they
had
to
do
that
as
a
local
area,
improvement,
Church.
K
So
chair
as
part
of
the
2019
budget,
we
had
flagged
that
as
part
of
the
design
for
Montreal
Road,
because
there
were
accessibility
conflicts
in
terms
of
basically
providing
the
minimum
passes
of
travel
that
we
needed
to
for
technical
requirements.
There
was
a
need
to
bury
a
hydro
so
as
part
of
the
2019,
when
we
presented
the
first
phase
of
funding
for
Montreal
Road,
we
also
identified
the
need
for
hydro
burial.
O
K
O
B
Through
you,
mr.
chair,
so
this
year,
there's
29
locations
that
are
below
the
cutoff
line
and
the
gap
in
terms
of
funding
is
somewhere
between
40
and
50
million
dollars.
So
we
have,
there
is
funding
to
install
to
location
or
three
locations
went
on
Prince
of
Wales
and
barnesdale,
which
is
the
one
that's
got.
B
The
highest
number
of
collisions
I
think
there
was
twenty
three
over
three
year
period
as
well
as
Hut,
Martin
and
Richards
side
Rowan,
which
has
been
on
the
list
I
think
since
2010,
in
terms
of
meaning
the
warrants,
so
those
two
are
getting
done
as
well
as
a
pedestrian
signal
at
Lorien
and
Percy,
so
for
the
ones
below
what
we
are
as
part
of
the
row.
Safety
action
blind.
Two
of
the
pedestrian
signals
on
this
list
are
being
funded
through
that
for
installation.
B
O
D
You
mr.
chair
I'll
start
with
points
that
were
raised
before,
as
it
relates
to
snow
in
the
first
component.
I'm
interested
in
is
so
I
recognize
we're
we're
matching
we're
increasing
to
the
three-year
average
I.
Get
that
and
that's
good,
but
I,
don't
understand
how
we
factor
in
growth.
So
every
year
our
city's
growing
in
population
there's
growth
in
roads
and
I.
Don't
understand
how
I
guess
to
me:
they're
two
points,
one
which
is.
D
I
D
It's
a
dual
factor:
yes,
okay
on
snow,
again,
probably
the
last
one
on
snow
on
page
five
of
the
transportation
budget
snow
disposal
facility.
How
many
do
we
have
now
I
know
there's
one
near
Sanwa
and
why,
like
what's
the
purpose
of
that
15
percent
increase,
because
if
you
look
at
the
fee
components
we're
pretty
stable
everywhere
and
then
there's
fifteen.
Is
that
what
we
would
charge
private
contractors
because
certainly
we're
not
charging
ourselves
I?
Imagine
yes,.
I
D
Nice
and
clear,
okay
and
then
the
other
one
relates
to
councilor
dude
as
as
points
because
I
think
she's
on
to
something
very
interesting,
which
is
on
the
fleet
side
I'll,
preface
by
saying
we
should,
in
our
minds,
remove
all
of
the
emergency
vehicles
and
the
specialized
equipment,
because
that's
a
very
targeted
group
and
as
technology
becomes
available,
fine,
except
for
Zamboni's
and
I'm,
not
dropping
a
Zamboni
piece.
It's
a
it's!
The
easiest
to
electrify.
D
You
have
a
closed-loop
environment,
staying
on
site
that
really
works
15
minutes
out
of
an
hour
on
a
24
hour
cycle.
So
if
you
can't
make
electric
work
in
a
Zamboni
environment,
you
can
never
so
I'll
get
to
the
point
that
I
was
trying
to
make,
which
is
we
have
this
climate
change
council
group
we're
coming
with
a
plan
we
this
year
we
have
the
budget
coming
in
we're
funding
some
fleet
requirements
which
I
get,
but
then
we
have
some
procurement
components
that
are
tied
into
those
funding,
which
is
where
I'm
worried
the
Zamboni.
D
Last
year
we
got
caught
that
we
were
in
a
three-year
procurement.
We
were
procuring.
I
can't
remember
the
the
amount,
but
we
were
on
the
last
year
of
procurement.
We
were
procuring
nine
Zamboni's,
so
I
want
to
make
sure-
and
this
is
the
component
today-
that
I'm
interested
in
is.
Are
we
ensuring
that
our
procurement
going
forward
doesn't
tie
Council,
because
we're
gonna
make
important
decisions
going
forward
with
the
climate
change
action
plan?
And
this
all
relates
to
okay?
We
have
to.
C
You
chair,
so
yes,
we
are
committed
to
greening
the
fleet
of
the
vehicles
that
we
do
have.
There
are
nine
hundred
and
twenty
six
that
are
light
vehicles
and
for
those
AM
bonis.
We
have
acquired
for
electrical
electric
ice
surface
resurface
or
many
of
these
vehicles
have
lifespans
of
ten
years
plus.
So,
as
we
start
to
renew
the
fleet,
we
have
the
opportunity
to
replace
them
with
newer
technologies
where
they're
available
for
2020,
for
example,
we
are
projected
to
purchase
no
Zamboni's.
However,
two
ambulances,
some
larger
trucks,
a
tri-axial.
C
Trucks,
a
boom
arm
or
off
the
top
of
my
head,
I,
think
other
than
perhaps
the
sport
utility
and
pickup
trucks.
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
opportunity,
but
I
can
certainly
check
into
that,
for
you
and
I
want
to
again
give
the
committee
comfort
in
knowing
that
we
are
completely
committed
to
greening
the
fleet.
We
are
committed
to
greening
the
fleet,
no.
D
D
We
have
so
many
inspectors
at
the
city,
yet
they're
driving
f-150s.
They
never
use
the
bin
at
the
back
and
they're.
A
single
driver
but,
on
the
other
hand,
I
don't
want
to
undercut
the
public
works
team
that
picks
up
garbage
and
broken
broken
benches
and
stuff
like
that,
so
you're
putting
Council
in
this
committee
in
a
weird
spot
when
you
bucket
it
so
all
I'm
saying
for
this
year.
J
Absolutely
right,
councilor
and
contracts
in
the
past
have
been
a
problem
because
we've
gone
out
and
we've
procured
a
number
of
vehicles
over
a
period
of
time,
and
you
can't
actually
ignore
that
contract.
Just
because
technology's
changed
the
vendors
bid,
a
certain
price
understanding
that
that
was
the
number
of
vehicles
we
were
going
to
procure.
So
we
did
have
contractual
agreements
that
we
had
to
honor
with
the
work
that
fleet
has
done
to
look
at
the
right
sizing
and
the
types
of
vehicles
that
we
have
and
what's
coming
out
there.
J
D
Music
to
my
ears,
okay,
other
couple
of
points,
so
this
one
is
a
reality
that
I'm
sure
we
all
face.
We
have
a
given
road
in
our
community.
It's
not
a
new
road.
We
have
I'll
describe
it
as
more
than
a
pothole.
It's
a
situation
where
Lila's
team
on
public
works.
Brighton
in
my
area
will
say
it's
just
too
big:
I
don't
have
the
equipment,
so
then
we
flip
it
to
ISD
and
I
as
Dee
says.
Well,
we
don't
have
the
money
for
it.
D
So
then,
for
me
specifically
on
this
budget,
it's
below
the
line,
which
is
fine
but
from
a
theoretical
point
of
view,
not
investing
on
that
pothole,
quick
enough
expands,
the
overall
cost
and
and
environment.
So
I
want
to
understand
how
from
Public
Works
to
ISD
from
a
from
a
public
investment
point
of
view.
How
do
you
figure
it
out
because
I'm
seeing
major
gaps
from
pothole
fix
to
to
a
road
repair
that
is
currently
unfunded.
K
So
check
a
couple
of
elements
to
that.
To
that
question
is
one:
is
we
do
work
very
closely
with
Lila's
group
and
Public
Works
in
terms
of
the
roads
that
are
in
need,
some
of
the
pressure
points
that
they're
seen
to
make
sure
that
the
tires
that
we're
putting
forward
that
they're
also
concurring
with
those
needs?
The
point
that
you're
highlighting
is
the
point,
that's
been
recognized
and
the
asset
management
lines,
and
also
in
long
range,
financial
plan
that
there
is
a
gap
between
what
we
need
to
be
spending
in
and
what
we
are
spending.
K
So
there
are
roads
out
there
that
we
should
be
attending
to.
Unfortunately,
the
funding
is
not
there
to
to
get
to
them
and
that's
why,
when
we
talk
about
applying
a
risk-based
approach,
it's
really
trying
to
look
at
what
is
the
impact
on
the
service
so
that
we
make
sure
that
basically,
we
are
allocating
the
funding
to
those
roads
or
nose
assets
that
pose
a
higher
risk
to
service,
which
means
that
there
will
be
some
streets
where,
ideally,
we
should
be
doing
interventions.
Unfortunately,
there's
no
there's
no
funding
available.
D
Well,
I'm
not
gonna,
follow
I'm,
not
gonna
fall
on
this
one
I
I'm
gonna
use
the
video
that
the
delegation
used
to
show
you
what
I'm
talking
about,
because
this
is
not
my
word
specific.
It
applies
across
the
city,
we're
not
responding
quickly
enough
to
pothole
fixing,
which
in
my
mind,
costs
us
a
lot
of
money
and
then
it's
too
big
for
one
team,
so
I
think
there's
like
something
that's
got
to
give
you
got
it.
D
You
have
to
give
Lyla
and
her
team
the
equipment,
that's
needed
to
do
the
bigger
patches
because
they
don't
have
I,
never
heard
a
complaint
about
funding
until
it
gets
to
ISD.
So
LYLAS
teams
not
about
funding
it's
about
equipment
and
the
range
of
that
equipment
and
then,
on
your
end,
I
get
its.
You
gotta
identify
pressures,
and
how
do
you
compare
a
road
redo
to
that
and
you
have
to
prioritize
but
I'm,
saying
as
we
wait
for
that,
because
it's
not
happening,
we
continue
to
it's.
K
I'll
hand
it
over
maybe
to
Lila
one
of
the
piece
that
we
are
looking
at
with
with
her
group
are
in
some
case
they
may
be
better
equipped
to
address
some
of
those
repairs
where,
instead
of
us,
managing
it
to
a
contract,
may
be
more
effective
for
them
for
us
to
provide
the
funding
for
them
to
undertake
it.
So
those
are
things
that
we
are
I,
see
Shelly
nodding
and
looking
at
trying
to
really
stretch
that
dollar
as
much
as
we
as
much
as
we
can
so.
I
So
we
will
be
moving
into
we're
going
to
do
some
pilots,
this
winter,
where
supervisors
will
be
out
on
the
roads,
taking
a
look
at
some
of
the
ones
with
the
worst
of
conditions
and
when
the
weather
conditions
and
ground
conditions
permit
we're
going
to
be
using
warm
mix
and
doing
more
of
a
proactive
view
at
pothole,
filling
and
road
maintenance
on
on
a
blitz
type
format.
So
we're
not
waiting
for
service
requests
to
come
in
and
try
and
pick
one
here,
one
there
one
there.
I
I
Looking
at
how
we
manage
those
potholes
as
well
as
working
with
Shelley,
and
that's
why
she's
she's
nodding,
we
just
met
yesterday
to
talk
about
what
is
that
middle
ground,
and
how
can
we
help
and
how
can
they
help
so
we're
trying
to
put
some
plans
together
where
we
can
manage
some
of
the
smaller
projects
on
their
end,
but
the
larger
projects
on
our
end
and
vice-versa,
using
the
talents
and
the
expertise
that
we
each
have
and
shared
funding.
So
we
are
looking
more
proactively
to.
D
Quick
other
points,
one
which
I
believe
is
in
your
group,
which
is
on
page
99
and
page
100.
I,
just
want
a
confirmation
that
both
the
parking
lifecycle,
renewal
and
the
life
site
lifecycle,
renewal
of
parking
once
four
million
and
once
2.5
million
that
those
are
coming
from
reserve.
It's
unclear
to
me
where
the
Rev
the
source
is
coming
from
yet
Scotts
telling
us
I
see
Scott
nodding.
So
that's
good,
okay,
okay
and
then.
My
final
question
relates
to
parks
and
ride.
So
yesterday
we
had
a
tremendous
presentation
on
phase
two.
D
A
lot
of
members
are
excited
around
phase
two
of
the
LRT
I
am
concerned
that
so
I
think
we
should.
We
all
share
a
common
goal
that
we
want
to
see
an
increase
in
ridership
and
we
want
to
see
an
increase
in
ridership
as
the
LRT
phase
2
opens,
and
one
of
the
growth
in
ridership
is
that
writer
that's
outside
of
the
perimeter
of
the
city
who
drives
in
and
we
want
them
to
stop
and
park
it
a
parking
right
and
jump
on
transit
because
then
they
start
paying
right.
D
They
start
paying
either
for
their
golden
card.
At
the
park
and
ride
and
they
start
paying
for
a
bus
pass,
which
is
our
desire.
So
I
just
want
you.
You
might
not
have
the
answer
today,
but
we
have
money
in
Scotts
account
as
it
relates
to
parking
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
road
mapping
of
what
we
need
to
do
in
terms
of
parks
and
ride
to
have
the
capacity
when
LRT
phase
2
is
open,
is
entirely
in
place
so
that
we
don't
miss
that
that
window
and
that
opportunity.
C
Chair,
the
parking
for
transit
would
come
from
the
transit
fund,
so
that's
how
we
we
fund
those
programs
and,
as
part
of
our
TMP,
we
are
looking
at
the
Park
and
Ride
lots
and
as
develop
reviewing
the
strategy
where
they
need
to
be
located.
So
that's
that
work
is
underway
so,
but
you're
talking
specifically
about
stage
2
and
whether
there's
going
to
be
expansion
of
the
nearby
Lots.
That
was
examined
as
part
of
the
stage
2
program
and
the
budget
is,
you
know
the
budget
is
what
it
is
and
I
don't
think.
C
D
We
ask
for
this
committee
or
I.
Don't
know
if
this
is
in
transit,
commission
or
our
committee,
but
can
the
analysis
be
done
as
to
the
growth
of
LRT,
as
it
relates
to
those
who
would
drive
and
pick
up
an
LRT
station
in
the
extreme
areas
and
have
a
report
on
that
because
forget
the
funding
for
a
second
from
a
theoretical
point
of
view
we
have
to
get
there.
So
can
we
just
have
a
mapping
of
what
is
from
your
planning
perspective
what's
in
place?
Yes,.
C
It
was
part
of
theme
offer
when
the
Kannada
LRT
EA,
so
every
every
time
we
do
an
EA.
We
look
at
the
ridership
and
how
are
they're
coming
through
whether
there's
a
park,
a
ride
needed
or
not.
The
same
thing
is
happening
with
the
barre,
Haven
LRT
EA,
that
that
includes
a
look
at
a
park-and-ride
lot
there
as
well
so
I
can
show
you.
The
link.
I
know
that
in
Kannada
they're
Kannada
Aero
LRT,
there
are
a
number
of
Park
and
Ride
Lots
being
proposed
as
part
of
that
project.
So.
D
C
A
Thanks
just
to
clarify
I
think
the
counselor
wants
to
know
for
Stage
two,
so
this
would
be
trim
Road.
Whatever
the
station
is
in
Riverside,
South
and
moody,
what
the
forecasted
demand
for
a
parking
right
is
versus
capacity
existed,
a
I
know.
The
trim
definitely
needs
an
enhancement.
So
as
part
of
that,
I
would
ask
what
kind
of
lead
time
you
would
need
to
build
a
parking
structure
at
rim
Road
or
these
other
two
Kannada
and
or
West
End
and
South,
in
order
to
have
it
open
for
the
opening
of
the
various
Stage
two
extensions.
A
A
If
a
parkade
is
going
to
take
four
years
to
design
and
improve
and
build,
then
I
guess
we
need
to
get
started
on
it.
We
have
the
land,
but
so
how
fast
can
you
build
a
parkade?
I
guess
is
my
point
right:
okay,
we'd!
Have
it
thank
you,
so
I
don't
have
any
other
speakers
on
the
list.
Okay,
seeing
none
we've
got
a
road
map
motion
here.
Is
anyone?
Do
we
have
to
vote
on
it?
One
by
one?
Is
anyone
intending
to
vote
against
any
part
of
the
budget
perfect?