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Transportation Committee - Agenda 19 - Wednesday, May 5, 2021 - live stream
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A
A
C
C
C
E
A
And
chair,
thank
you
of
course
president
thanks
a
lot
kell
appreciate
that
we
have
no
regrets,
no
declarations
of
interest.
Can
I
get
the
confirmation
of
minutes
minutes
17
april
4th?
Are
these
confirmed
all
right?
Thank
you.
I'm
just
going
to
go
through
the
consent
agenda
here.
What
we
have.
The
first
item
is
a
summary
boulevard,
transit,
priority
corridor
environmental
assessment
study.
We
have
no
presentations,
no
delegations,
no
correspondence
on
this
one
is
this
item
carry.
A
Okay,
great
so
we'll
hold
that
item
item
number
two:
the
intelligent
transportation
and
connected
automobile
vehicle
updates
2021.
This
is
a
really
exciting
presentation
we
do
have
here.
Quite
excited
about
this.
Ottawa
should
be
proud,
so
that
item
will
be
held.
Item
number
three,
always
stop
control
at
the
intersection
of
queen
mary
and
vera
street.
We
have
no
presentations,
delegations
or
correspondence
on
this.
Is
this
item
carried
okay?
A
Okay
item
number:
four
speed
reduction
gateway
zones
in
lower
town
sandy
hill
in
beignet
we
do
have
one
presenter.
The
delegation
tell
is
aaron
cunningham
in
the
room
he
just
was
promoted
great,
so
aaron,
I'm
not
sure.
If
you
can
hear
me,
we
have
a
bit
of
a
lengthy
presentation
at
item
number
two
today.
If
this
item
is
supported
by
committee,
you
feel
the
need
to
speak
today.
G
A
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you
committee.
I
I
want
to
thank
the
city
staff
and
and
the
community
specifically
robert
charbonneau
and
and
phil
landry,
just
tremendous
to
to
work
with
on
bringing
this
report
forward
and
supporting
our
community,
and
I
I
want
to
thank
community
groups.
I
know
that
each
in
each
of
our
community
we
put
seasonal
traffic
calming
measures
and
obviously,
with
the
new
gateway
measures,
they
they've
helped
us
bring
some
more
coordinated
strategies,
so
I
want
to
thank
community
groups
for
their
engagement
as
well.
B
B
So
yeah
with
respect
to
the
gateways,
whereas
the
transportation
services
department,
commenting
counselor
flurry's
report
on
the
speed
reduction
gateway
zones
in
lower
town
sandy
hill
and
vanier
references
just
lost
it.
Six
supporting
documents
outlining
the
speed
survey
results
were
zones
one
through
six,
which
were
unintentionally
omitted
from
the
report,
therefore
be
it
resolved.
The
transportation
committee
amend
the
counselor's
report
to
add
supporting
documents
one
to
six
as
attached
to
this
motion.
A
Great
and
just
all
technical
on
that
item
is
that
item
carried
great.
Thank
you,
kel.
We're
satisfied
on
that
one
great
going
back
to
the
agenda.
The
final
item
always
stop
control
at
the
intersection
of
sweetland
street
and
osgood
street
osgood
street,
and
it's
invading
okay
on
this
item.
There's
no
delegations.
A
C
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
to
staff.
I
just
want
some
a
bit
of
clarification,
so
there
at
this
committee.
I
believe
it
was
maybe
the
last
time
or
the
time
before
we
we
were
all
very
excited
to
see
the
ea
for
the
eastern
portion
of
montreal
road
and
blair.
I
know
councillor
dudas
and
tierney
and
councillor
king
were
all
engaged
on
that
specific.
C
I
I'm
just
curious
to
see
how
they
all
all
tie
in.
So
we
have
the
montreal
road
construction
west
of
sailor.
We
have
the
ea
east
of
east
of
sailor
along
montreal
road.
We
have
the
reconstruction,
that's
happened
south
of
innis
on
san
loren,
and
I
just
can
you
maybe
share
with
us
kind
of
the
the
game
plan
and
how
those
are
all
being
being
considered
as
one
one
one
portion.
I.
I
guess
that
wasn't
clear
to
me
in
the
report.
B
B
C
All
right,
that's
good,
that's
great,
to
hear
a
question
relating
to
future
bus
routes,
so
I
know
that
both
ralston's
community
and
my
community
have
been
working
closely
to
over
the
years
to
continue
to
improve,
transit
and
routing
in
the
area.
What
will
that
be
kind
of
intertwined
in
that?
Because
our
team,
our
community,
is
working
with
oc
transpo
on
on
those,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
as
well
that
they're
they're
simultaneous
so
that
one
one
is
considered
as
a
whole.
A
Okay,
great
so
on
that
item
is
item
carried
great.
Thank
you.
Everyone,
okay,
great
we're
on
to
item
number
two,
which
is
really
exciting.
We've
got
a
great
presentation,
get
comfy
folks,
that's
a
bit
of
a
lengthy
one,
but
there's
so
much
to
be
proud
of
here
in
this
city
about
what
we
do.
So
at
this
time
we
have
omar
that's
going
to
be
giving
us
the
presentation,
so
I'll
turn
the
floor
over
to
you
guys.
F
Thank
you
chair
for
for
that,
and
we're
really
pleased
to
be
here
today
to
give
you
an
update
on
what
we've
been
doing
on
the
intelligent
transportation
system
area,
as
well
as
connecting
an
autonomous
vehicle,
so
omar
chaudhry
is
here,
he's
our
project
lead
for
all
this
area
within
our
service
area
and
he's
going
to
provide,
provide
you
with
an
update
on
that
work.
I'll
pass
it.
Oh
my
god,
thanks.
E
Great
thanks,
phil
so
good
morning,
minister
chair,
mr
vice
chair
members
of
committee
and
council,
as
phil
said,
I'm
omar
chowdhury,
I'm
project
lead
in
transportation
system
management
and
on
behalf
of
my
colleagues
in
trans
traffic
services.
I'm
really
excited
to
provide
you.
This
update
on
the
work
that
has
been
undertaken
over
the
last
couple
of
years
in
the
connected
and
automated
vehicles.
So
cab
and
its
are
intelligent
transportation
system
projects
so
kelly.
If
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
E
So
the
first
project
I'd
like
to
highlight
is
a
project
that
you've
heard
before
in
previous
updates.
You
would
have
heard
more
about
the
operational
and
maintenance
cost
savings
that
have
been
achieved
as
a
result
of
reduced
energy
use
and
how
that's
impacting
the
reduction
in
greenhouse
gas
emissions,
but
from
a
technology
standpoint,
what's
actually
exciting
to
me,
is
the
opportunity
that
this
asset
actually
provides
us.
One
of
the
challenges
we
do
face
is
the
access
to
reliable
power
and
communication
capabilities.
E
Although
and
there's
a
there's
a
nascent
industry,
that's
sort
of
forming
now
about
the
sensors
and
tools
that
could
be
actually
used
to
connect
through
through
these
traffic
or
these,
these
street
lights,
to
be
able
to
provide
us
access
to
the
sensors,
such
as
trap,
traffic
speeds
and
and
so
forth,
and
all
of
that
information
is
connected
through
a
wireless
mesh
network
that
enables
the
back
hall
of
that
data
to
our
communication
center
next
slide.
Please.
E
E
And
then
another
asset,
of
course
we
have
is,
is
our
traffic
signals
across
the
city
we
have
about
1200
of
them,
and
so
normally
operations
based
on
traffic
and
turn
movements
change
throughout
the
day,
and
so
those
we
create
signal.
Timing
plans
that
try
to
optimize
the
performance
of
the
of
the
intersection
based
on
that
the
known
or
expected
travel
volumes.
E
For
example,
we
were
monitoring
and
observing
that
the
system
was
actually
making
an
appropriate
decision
as
it
needed
to
based
on
the
volumes
that
it
would
see.
So
we've
actually
taken
that
as
an
extension,
we
extended
that
all
the
way
from
the
blackburn
hamlet
bypass
through
to
saint
laurent
boulevard
and
found
positive
results.
It
was
making
the
right
decisions
at
the
right
time
as
what
our
staff
would
normally
do.
E
E
And
then,
of
course,
there's
a
number
of
things
that
happen
behind
the
scenes
that
that
we've
been
undertaking.
So
one
of
the
the
efforts
is
converting
the
system
to
move
to
a
new
platform
similar
like
when
you
have
to
move
something
from
a
windows
7
to
a
windows
10.
There
may
be
changes
we're
in
the
process
of
doing
that,
and
that'll
also
allow
us
to
provide
us
some
additional
security
and
operational
benefits
as
part
of
the
road
safety
action
plan
that
you
heard
about
recently,
or
that
was
presented
to
a
committee
recently.
E
E
So
often
in
the
past,
you'd
have
a
device
in
the
vehicle
and
then
something
at
the
roadside
that
would
communicate
and,
and
that
was
used,
often
for
either
emergency
service,
present,
preemption
or
or
transit
preemption,
and
so
we're
looking
at
now.
How
can
we
use
gps
information
as
the
buses
are
all
getting
wired
with
gps
to
be
able
to
use
that
for
for
preemption
and
transit
priority,
and
then
the
last
one
which
is
kind
of
more
futuristic,
I
guess
I'll,
say
or
moving
us
towards
the
future?
E
Is
the
ability
for
the
traffic
control
software
to
output?
What's
called
spat
data,
so
that's
signal
phase
and
timing,
and
essentially,
what
that's
doing
is
it's
a
digital
description
of
what's
happening
at
the
intersection,
so
that
in
the
future,
supported
connected
and
automated
animated
vehicles
can
actually
understand
what's
happening
and
what
this
is
happening
at
the
signal.
E
So
if
kelly,
if
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide
now
our
operational,
our
traffic
operations
staff,
because
I
don't
think
any
of
us
speak
hexadecimal,
what
we've
actually
been
able
to
do
is
create
a
visualization
tool.
So
it's
actually
able
to
receive
the
information
and,
as
you
can
see
here,
the
colors
are
changing
for
the
lanes
through
the
intersection
and
it's
a
little
small,
but
there's
a
number
inside
that's
showing,
and
that
would
be
counting
down
as
to
how
much
time
there
is
left
in
that
phase
or
cycle.
E
And
the
blue
lines
are
just
the
description,
what's
known
as
the
map
data
and
it's
essentially
where
the
center
line
of
the
road
and
how
wide
each
of
the
roads
or
lanes
are,
and
that
includes
cyclist
lanes,
pedestrian,
crosswalks
and
so
forth,
and
so
being
able
to
digitize
this
information
and
provide
it
into
the
car
of
the
future.
That
car
will
know
that
there's
a
green
light
and
it
can
pass
or
it's
red
light
and
should
not
tap
and
all
that
information
right
now
through
this
project
is
being
broadcast
out
by
a
technology.
E
That's
called
dsrc
or
dedicated
short-range
communication
and
in
the
industry
there's
also
now
a
follow-on
which
is
called
cb2x,
which
is
essentially
a
5g
technology,
and
so
this
this
is
currently
operational
at
terry,
fox
and
and
march
road
out
in
canada,
and
if
kelly,
if
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
one
of
associated
with
that
project
is
the
whole
idea
of.
How
can
we
get
information
out
to
the
car?
So
this
project
was
a
transport
canada
funded
research
project.
E
Otherwise
we
could
be
here
for
an
hour
or
two.
So
we
we
ran
through
with
seven
traffic
management
staff
over
218
days
worth
of
data
collection,
24,
000,
kilometers
of
driving
and
almost
30
000
signals
driven
through,
and
what
we
found
was
that
we
could
actually
achieve,
on
average
about
a
5
savings
in
fuel,
but
we
actually
had
one
staff
that
was
able
to
achieve
a
14
savings
in
fuel
and
the
fuel
savings
is
achieved
because
of
the
difference
and
reducing
the
variability
and
speed.
E
So
if
a
double
of
speed
is
actually
four
times
the
amount
of
energy
you
require,
and
so
that's
where
you
can
actually
see
the
savings
and
in
discussions
with
the
federal
highway
administration
down
in
the
u.s,
they
actually
have
done
some
computer
analysis
that
they
think
that
the
car
of
the
future
could
maybe
see
if
up
to
20,
to
25
fuel
savings.
If
it
actually
is
automating
the
the
speed
adjustment.
So
kelly
next
slide.
Please!
E
So
we're
really
quite
pleased
this
project
gave
us
or
we
achieved
the
two
national
awards.
One
is
through
the
transportation
association
of
canada,
the
other
for
large
municipalities,
provinces
and
the
federal
government
through
intelligent
transportation
systems
of
canada
and
because
you
can't
win
them
all.
E
We
received
an
honorable
mention
for
the
city's
own
environmental
excellence
award
in
the
internal
category
and
I've
just
actually
learned
just
in
the
last
week
or
so
that
we
we
had
submitted
a
paper
to
the
u.s
national
academy
of
sciences,
the
transportation
research
record
and
in
cooperation
with
dr
rata
khan,
out
of
carlton
university.
Our
paper
is
going
to
be
published
in
that
journal
as
well.
So
we're
really
quite
excited
about
that,
but
we
don't
want
to
rest
on
our
laurels.
E
Winning
a
few
is
good,
but
let's
keep
on
keep
the
keep
the
momentum
going,
and
so
we've
been
actually
making
some
adjustments
and
modifications
to
that
at
the
screen
that
you
saw
there
so
in
a
moment,
I'll
get
kelly
to
start
the
slide.
But
what
you'll
see
is
the
original
screen
that
you
saw
with
the
with
the
signal
heads
the
video
starts
just
after
the
green
light
has
the
light
has
turned
to
green,
but
the
car
isn't.
E
Please
so
we're
actually
in
the
process
of
looking
at
how
we
can
actually
start
testing
this
new
interface
testing
it
with
other
departments
and
branches,
because
what
we
want
to
understand
is
how
does
this
technology
and
how
do
different
driver
use
cases
if
they're
stopping
frequently,
if
they
have
longer
long
trips?
How
can
they
actually
achieve
better
savings?
E
E
Businesses
and
small
businesses
grow
here
in
the
city,
but
it
also
provides
us
with
the
first
case
view
of
what
the
technology
is
and
what's
possible
out
there,
and
so
some
of
the
equipment
that's
going
to
be
out.
There
will
be
able
to
record
wind
and
precipitation
road
conditions
so
that
we
can
know
whether
the
road
surface
is
wet
or
snow
covered.
Is
it
starting
to
ice
and
then
other
information
such
as
travel
times,
speeds
of
vehicles
and
so
forth,
and
so
we're
hoping
to
launch
this
project
soon.
E
Unfortunately,
kovid's
made
it
a
little
bit
of
a
challenge
and
to
be
able
to
run
some
proper
testing,
but
we
were
hoping
to
do
that
too.
Kelly.
Next
slide,
please
and
then
speaking
about
area
x.o,
they
would
invest
auto,
provided
an
update
to
fedco
back
in
november.
I
believe
it
was,
and
we've
been,
traffic
services
has
been
working
with
investor
ottawa
to
both
support
small
businesses
who
want
to
deploy
and
test
their
equipment
here
in
ottawa,
but
also
being
able
to
provide
access
to
infrastructure.
E
Our
network
modification
group
actually
wanted
to
do
some
testing
to
get
a
better
feel
and
understanding
about
maneuverability
and
turning
radii
of
fire
trucks,
and
we
were
able
to
use
the
facility
for
that
next
slide,
please
kelly,
and
so,
when
speaking
about
shuttles
in
2019,
we
started.
We
did
our
first
pilot
working
with
area
x.o.
It
was
in
the
marsh's
golf
course,
which
was
following
our
mantra
of
walk.
Before
you
run.
E
We
wanted
to
run
it
in
a
safe
and
and
comfortable
location
and
start
to
learn
how
these
different
technologies,
lidar
radar
gpf,
will
handle
different
conditions.
So,
as
you
can
imagine
on
the
golf
course,
it's
a
winding
wiggly
road.
We
had
to
avoid
some
golfers
and
golf
carts,
but
it
provided
us
an
understanding
of
how
that
sort
of
technology
would
work
and
allow
us
to
start
to
move
forward.
So
the
next
step
is
very
next
slide.
E
Kelly
was
then,
in
october
or
sorry
november,
of
2020
in
west
ottawa,
through
some
funding
from
transport,
canada
led
a
pilot
of
a
shuttle
that
you
can
see
up
on
the
top
right
hand,
side
there
around
tony's
pasture
and
all
three
organizations
had
different.
You
know
reasons
for
being
able
to
do
this
transport.
Canada,
wanted
to
learn
and
un,
develop
some
policy
guidelines
on
how
to
run
and
test
these
things.
E
Invest
ottawa
certainly
wanted
to
increase
their
expertise
in
running
these
sort
of
shuttles
and
pilots,
and
we
wanted
to
understand
how
they
operate
in
a
more
real
world
environment,
so
there's
parking,
bicyclists,
pedestrians,
crosswalks
and
so
forth,
and
over
time
there
was
about
700
passengers
that
actually
ran
through
the
during
this.
The
shuttle
and
next
slide
please
go,
and
so
we
also
talked
about
you
know.
E
I
was
just
mentioning
about
interacting
with
the
public,
which
was
the
first
project
really
with
the
shuttles,
but
we're
also
interacting
with
public
in
how
we
manage
and
operate
our
roads.
So
one
of
the
things,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
was
that
getting
access
to
power
and
communications
is
a
challenge
for
us
and
so
as
we're
leveraging
the
construction
of
lrt
stage
two
to
actually
put
the
necessary
groundwork.
E
So
both
power
and
fiber
connections
along
the
174
corridor
that
we
actually
use
to
outfit
with
traffic
counters,
speed,
detection,
increase
our
camera
capability
and
visibility
to
be
able
to
identify
incidents
and
then
be
able
to
start
to
put
out
dynamic
message,
signs
to
be
able
to
describe
road
conditions,
link,
blockage
and
so
forth,
and
that
project
will
really
start
to
feed
into
what
is
really
a
larger
city-wide
strategy
of
providing
this
kind
of
similar
infrastructure
around
elsewhere
around
the
city.
Kelly
next
slide,
please.
E
But
one
of
the
ways
that
we
have
traditionally
been
interacting
with
the
public
is
through
our
interactive
traffic
map,
and
that
was
originally
built
in
2007
and
received
some
upgrades
over
time.
But
we've
been
undertaking
an
overhaul
of
that
in
in
the
last
couple
of
months
and
so
next
slide
kelly
to
steal
my
thunder
for
the
next
time
when
we
actually
present
the
and
roll
it
roll.
This
out.
E
We
also
it
allows
us
to
provide
dynamic
sizing
to
adjust
for
any
types
of
screens,
and
it's
also
mobile
friendly,
and
it
all
have
some
additional
improved
accessibility
components
to
it.
So
we
looked
forward
to
launching
a
beta
of
this
later
on
this
summer
and
then
we'll
run
it
for
a
number
of
months.
E
Receive
feedback
and
comments
from
the
public
make
some
changes
and
roll
it
out
officially,
hopefully,
by
the
end
of
the
year
and
while
visuals
are
great,
there's
a
number
of
back
end
improvements
that
were
that
we're
undertaking,
which
will
actually
improve
the
flexibility
and
and
our
capability
of
reporting
things
to
the
public
fly,
please
kelly
and
so
we're
in
the
process
of
moving
towards
what
I
call
a
mobility-centric
system.
So,
instead
of
right
now
we
have
the
information
in
different
places,
we're
wanting
to
centralize
all
of
our
incident.
E
E
But
maybe
one
of
the
more
exciting
ones
is
actually
the
enabling
different
traveler
groups.
So,
as
you
can
imagine
something
that
impacts,
a
cyclist
doesn't
actually
maybe
have
the
same
impact
on
a
driver
and
similarly,
someone
who
has
mobility
issues
may
be
more
interested
in.
What's
going
on
with
the
sidewalk,
and
if
we
can
provide
that
information
to
allow
them
to
not
get
into
a
place
where
they
walk
down
a
road
and
then
realize
that
they're
that
they
can't
cross
at
that
location
or
there's
they
have
mobile
mobility
challenges.
E
And
then
our
on
the
traffic
side
of
things,
our
traffic
operations
staff
have
been
working
with
a
startup
based
here
in
ottawa.
That's
actually
allowing
them
to
monitor
travel
times
on
various
segments
of
roadway
and
that's
sort
of
an
exciting
opportunity,
because
certainly
providing
travel
time.
Information
for
our
local
and
arterials
and
so
forth
is
something
that's
of
value.
E
But
probably
one
of
the
things
that's
changing
fastest
in
the
industry
is
actually
not
related
to
traffic
per
se,
but
it's
actually
the
computer
vision
technologies
and
what
we,
what
we
would
call
at
the
edge
computing.
So
now
today,
even
on
your
your
own
mobile
phone,
when
you
turn
on
your
camera,
you
can
actually
have
tools
that
will
actually
identify
objects
that
it
sees
in.
E
In
its
view,
and
instead
of
having
to
take
the
video
bringing
it
back
to
headquarters,
running
it
through
a
giant
processor
to
extract
the
information
it's
able
to
just
re
in
real
time
identify.
Oh,
there
was
a
truck.
There
was
a
car.
There
was
a
there
was
a
person
and
report
that
infra
information
back
on
a
minute
by
minute
basis,
so
that
we
can
actually
track.
E
This
is
william
and
george,
as
you
can
see,
and
the
device
that
you
see
there
connects
to
the
traffic
the
the
street
light
I
should
say,
and
is
able
to
in
real
time
count
the
number
of
either
pedestrians,
cyclists
vehicles
or
actually
the
parking
spot
usage
or
availability,
and
we
wanted
to
be
able
to
test
in
a
location.
I
live
nearby.
E
So
even
in
a
in
a
blizzard,
I
can
throw
on
my
white
parka
run
through
the
lights
and
see
whether
it
actually
sees
me
and
that
opportunity
is
something
that
we
want
to
be
able
to
test
over
four
seasons
that
really
understand
what
this
technology
can
do,
and
there's
very
few
places
in
the
city
that
have
this
amount
of
traffic,
pedestrian,
cyclists
and
so
forth.
All
within
such
a
tight
stretch
that
we
can
actually
test
everything
all
together
and
then
kelly
next
slide,
please.
E
That's
been
done
through
the
official,
the
new
official
plan,
the
work
that
the
vivi
cheese
group
is
doing,
and
the
transportation
master
plan,
the
road
safety
action
plan
work
and
then
also
interaction
with
all
of
our
colleagues
and
other
in
other
departments
who
are
working
and
are
related
to
the
movement
of
either
people
or
goods,
and
we
expect
to
be
able
to
deliver
this
report
in
early
2023
to
the
20th.
And
with
that,
thank
you
very
much.
I
lost
track
of
how
long
I
was
going,
but
hopefully
it
wasn't
too
long.
Thank
you.
E
A
Wow,
that
was
that
was
a
great
presentation,
wow,
very,
very
good.
First,
we
do
have
a
couple
of
questions,
but
before
I
get
to
that
members
of
committee,
if
you
haven't
seen
the
traffic
control
center,
it's
something
to
you'll
definitely
want
to
see
at
some
point
and
post
covid.
When
we
get
out
of
this,
we
can
schedule
some
tours
and
check
that
place
out
the
the
amount
of
the
intelligence
that
we
have
in
the
city
around
this
big
thanks
to
omar
to
the
team
on
this
one.
A
B
B
B
This
presentation,
you
know,
certainly
the
beginning
of
it-
focused
a
lot
on
technologies
that
are
being
developed
for
mitigating
or
improving
the
flow
of
private
automobile
traffic,
and
we
could
probably
spend
all
day
talking
about
how
long
is
the
private
automobile
going
to
be
a
focus
for
cities
versus
what
we
know
we
need
to
do,
which
is
to
focus
on
active
transportation
and
mass
public
transit?
Where
you
know
I
was
struck,
there
was
a
a
slide
that
you
showed
of
the
canada
smart
intersection.
B
B
At
what
point
do
we
have
technology
that
compares
the
volume
of
pedestrians
on
a
sidewalk
versus
the
number
of
people
who
are
driving
down
a
block
and
saying
we
need
to
reduce
speeds
and
reduce
volumes
of
cars,
because
the
pedestrian
demand
is
so
high,
where,
where
is
the
pedestrian,
the
cyclist,
the
train
and
the
bus?
And
all
this.
E
Well,
thank
you.
Vice
chair,
that's
a
that's
a
great
question.
I
will
say
that
industry
has
traditionally
focused
on
the
private
automobile,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
you
know
the
technology.
For
example,
that
was
showing
you
about
being
able
to
identify
the
number
of
people
walking
across
the
road
and
so
forth,
can't
actually
be
applied
for
pedestrians
and
and
and
cyclists,
for
example,
and
then
being
able
to
use
that
data
to
be
able
to
identify.
E
For
example,
do
we
need
bigger
and
wider
sidewalks
to
allow
pedestrians
to
travel
and
so
forth
and
part
of
it
is
really
the
lack
of
data?
I
would
I
I
would
say
at
least
from
my
standpoint
I
spent
most
of
my
career
actually
working
down
in
the
u.s,
and
so
the
road
and
the
car
is
the
big
thing,
but
you
know
it.
E
It
doesn't
provide
a
a
livable
city,
there's
a
there's,
a
number
of
great
programs
that
I've
seen
on
tvo
and
so
forth,
about
livable
cities
and-
and
we
want
to
certainly
be
able
to
collect
information,
to
be
able
to
allow
and
make
better
decisions
on
how
to
support
pedestrians
and
so
forth.
I'm
not
sure
if
that
asks
your
question
and
maybe
phil
might
want
to
chime
in.
F
You
know
the
the
smart
shuttles
that
we're
doing
the
autonomous
vehicles
and
things
like
that
again,
the
goal
and
we're
following
and
being
in
line
and
trying
to
be
in
line
with
the
official
plan,
the
transportation
master
plan-
and
I
mean
baby-
wants
to
talk
a
bit
about
from
the
planning
perspective.
But
you
know
our
goal
right
now
is
to
stay
ahead
of
the
curve,
and
we
were
very
cognizant
and
we've.
F
We
pushed
to
have
some
some
measures
put
in
like
lamar
talked
a
bit
about
today
in
the
presentation
focused
on
pedestrians
focused
on
on
cyclists,
because
we
know
that
that's
where
we
want
to
go,
especially
to
be
a
sustainable
city.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
we
want
to
get
ahead
of
the
curve
and
being
able
to
to
deal
with
all
the
things
that
are
coming
at
us
versus
being
behind
the
times
and
trying
to
catch
up.
And
that's
what
this
program
is.
B
You
know,
let's,
let's
make
sure
that
we're
developing
the
technology
as
neutrally
as
possible.
Anticipating
you
know
the
shift
that
our
official
plan
contemplates,
for
instance,
the
second
question
omar
is,
and
you
you
alluded
to
it-
the
data
that
we're
creating
we're
creating
a
huge
amount
of
data.
How
can
we
make
that
public
for
for
residents
to
use
when
they're
doing
you
know,
citizen
analyst
type
work
around
policy
choices.
E
Yeah,
so
I,
I
guess
I'll
say
a
number
of
the
the
the
data
that
we
actually
do
provide
is
available
through
the
open
data
portal
that
the
city
has,
and
that
includes,
for
example,
as
I
was
saying,
we're
updating
the
way
we
collect
data
for
our
interactive
traffic
map.
But
that's
also
as
I
I
wanted
to
sort
of
tie
that
back
to
the
last
question
that
you
had
was
it's
not
only
going
to
be
about
traffic,
but
it's
about
about
oc,
transpo
and
transit.
E
B
Platform-
I
think,
that's
you
know,
that's
obviously
a
key
consideration
of
mine,
I'm
I'm
very
focused
on
on
making
this
data
available
to
people
because
it
can
generate
some
very
creative
exercises.
The
and
I
to
that
point
I
also
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
necessarily
reinventing
the
wheel
in
some
instances.
B
E
Absolutely
I
mean
what
you
know.
Our
philosophy
is
where,
where
the
information
is
available,
it
doesn't
really
matter
where
it
comes
from.
It
needs
to
be
equality.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
it's
maintained
and
accurate,
because
that's
the
one
thing
that
can
throw
you
down
the
wrong
path,
but
you
know,
if
there's
a
data
source,
that's
available
out
there
that
can
actually
provide
us
information.
We're
happy
to
pull
that
in.
B
I
mean
ideally
volunteers
would
need
to
do
it
to
be
maintained
at
the
at
the
city's
cost.
Obviously,
no
this
is
it's
really
exciting,
stuff,
omar,
the
you
know
I
I
don't
want
to
get
too
distracted
by
the
fact
that
this
technology
may
be
focused
on
this
mode
of
transit,
etc.
It's
very
early
days
and
all
of
what
you're
working
on
is
going
to
be
useful
moving
forward.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
an
exciting
presentation.
C
What
I
didn't
hear
omar-
and
I
I
wonder
if,
if
there's
been
some
reflection
there,
there
is
in
relation
to
reporting.
So
you
know
when
you
look
at
the
311
data,
a
lot
of
it's
seasonal,
around
potholes
or
winter
maintenance
around
slippery
roads
or
so
are
we
do
we
see
a
future
for
that
piece
to
simplify
our
operations
and
to
maybe
automate
some
of
our
responses
to
to
our
network.
E
Yeah,
absolutely
I
mean,
I
think,
that's
the
biggest
thing
that
that
that's
a
challenge
is
having
a
concerted
and
I'll
call
it.
A
data
warehouse
for
lack
of
a
better
word
where
all
the
different
data
pieces
come
into
a
location
where
we
can
then
actually
use
that
to
I'll
differentiate
data
from
information
right.
So
data
is
the
it's
it's.
This
is
the
temperature.
This
is
the
wind
speed
and
so
forth.
The
information
is
deriving.
All
of
that
to
say.
E
Oh,
it's
going
to
be
a
beautiful
saturday
to
be
able
to
go
for
a
barbecue,
and
that
actually
is
the
sort
of
information
so
being
able
to
take
all
this
information
to
generate
kpis.
So
we
can
actually
monitor
how
how
travel
is
operating
on
our
arterials
or
in
a
particular
community,
by
using
all
the
different
data
sources
that
we
want
to
be
able
to
start
to
pull
in
it's
very
early
days
still.
C
Do
we
see
legal
environments
or
challenges,
as
it
relates
to
say,
say,
a
transit
operations
was
to
put
a
particular
monitoring
of
potholes
or
an
individual.
You
know
a
vehicle
operators
say
was
willing
to
put
that
pod
where
every
time
there's
a
particular
movement
vertical
movement
on
on
their
driving.
We
know
there's
a
certain
depth
of
a
pothole
or
so
on.
Is
there
a
has?
There
been
legal
involvement
in
in
seeing
that
through,
because
I
I
know
where
we
want
to
go,
I
see
the
benefits
of
it.
E
Yeah
I'll
be
on
legal,
hasn't
been
involved
at
this
stage
and,
as
I
said,
it's
really
early
days,
the
information
that
we're
typically
getting
are
are,
you
know,
counts
of
information,
whether
it's
pedestrian
counts,
cyclist,
counts,
and
you
know
the
regular
automobile
vehicle
counts
and
speeds,
but
the
ability
to
gather
more
information
in
a
privacy,
the
privacy.
What
I'd
like
to
use
is
there's
a
term
that
the
former
privacy
commissioner
of
ontario
uses,
which
is
privacy
by
design.
E
So
it's
a
focus
on
collecting
the
data
that
you
need,
but
the
data
that
adopts
and
adheres
to
the
maintaining
the
privacy
of
the
individuals
who
are
out
there
on
the
road.
And
if
you
don't
need
to
collect
that
data,
you
don't
need
to
collect
something
specific
you're
able
to
go
and
gather
that
information,
and
so
the
privacy
issue
is
taken
care
of.
But
there
are
we
haven't
involved
legal
at
the
station.
C
Has
there
been
engagement
with
say,
ops,
for
example,
on
the
speeding
front,
because
I
you
know
as
a
counselor
we're
always
there
supporting
our
community,
but
ultimately,
if,
if
the
data
drove
the
the
enforcement
around
where
actual
speeding
is,
is
occurring
it
it
would
you
know
if
we
would
be
able
to
automate
that
it'd
be?
We
could
be
a
a
little
more
removed
from
from
the
the
political
involvement
of
of
enforcement?
If
you
will.
E
Though
that
those
discussions
haven't
been
had
yet
because
we
don't
have
the
real
speed
information
available
to
us
to
be
able
to
make
a
true
decision,
we
might
have
it
for
one
spot
location.
Certainly,
the
the
automated
enforcement
devices
that
we
have
out
there
now
are
able
to
collect
information
and
be
able
to
identify
that.
But
we
don't
have
that
on
an
aggregate
where
we
could
actually
make
provide
that
to
ops
for
making
operational
decisions
on
where
enforcement's
required.
E
F
I
just
wanted
to
add
that,
although
we
don't
have
it
in
this
in
this
area,
we
do
work
with
ops
very
closely,
so
they
do
get
all
our
data
from
the
speed
boards.
They
get
the
data
from
where
we
do
traffic
counts
and
traffic
speed
studies
and
then,
when
they
get
complaints
they
have
a
database
that
they
can
go
to
to
check
to
see
if
there's
issues
there
based
on
the
data
and
then
also
enforce
specific
times.
F
C
What
sort
of
direction
would
you
need
if,
if
we
wanted
to
pursue
what
else
described
as
operational
improvement,
say
the
example
of
the
pothole?
So
if
we
wanted
the
team
to
advance
an
automated
pothole
reporting
efforts
like
that,
how
would
we
go
about
as
committee
to
to
advance
that
in
the
work
plan.
F
Well,
I
I
think
we
would
have
to
work
with
public
works,
environmental
services,
and
so
we
can
take
that
back.
I
can
talk
to
eileen
boncier
and
see
what
they're
doing
today,
because
we're
we
are
in
different
departments
and
we
sort
of
have
a
high
level
of
what
they're
they're
doing
but
to
see
if
this
is
something
specific
and
how
we
can
assist
them
from
that
perspective.
So
I
can
take
that
back
and
we
can
get
back
to
you.
C
Yeah
the
potential
of
data
isn't
under
a
and
possible
like
it's
unreal
right,
so
I
I
really
want
to
thank
you
for
for
your
presentation.
I
think
it's
great
I'm
I'm
just.
I
want
to
see
how
we
can
operationalize
this,
and
I
know
that
chair
is
interested
in
the
way
we
can
minimize
potholes
and
automate
bottles.
So
let's
take
that
offline.
E
Yeah
and
I'll
just
mention
that
I
mean,
I
think,
one
and
part
of
the
the
the
work
to
update
the
trans.
The
tsm
action
plan
is
to
actually
meet
with
all
the
different
departments
and
understand
what
data
they're
collecting
and
what
data
they
might
need
both
now
and
into
the
future,
so
that
we
can
actually
provide
a
nice
good
ten
year
plan
as
to
how
to
move
forward.
So.
A
D
Thank
you
chair.
Thank
you,
omar
for
the
great
presentation.
I
just
have
a
couple
of
questions
for
you
this
these
like,
for
example,
the
intersection
in
canada.
That's
two-way
communication,
correct,
you're,
you're,
collecting
the
information
from
the
vehicles,
the
speed,
the
whether
they're
stopped
or
moving
whatever,
but
are.
Is
there
information
going
back
to
the
vehicles
as
well.
E
E
E
So
there's
a
there's,
a
number
of
different
fronts:
there's
a
lot
of
moving
parts,
but
certainly
the
the
ability
to
get
the
information
to
the
to
the
public
or
to
the
traveler
is
important,
because
then
they
can
make
their
decisions
as
to
how
to
get
to
their
destination
more
effectively
and
whether
it's
the
phone
ahead
to
say
you
know,
I'm
going
to
be
a
few
minutes
late
or
or
something
of
that
nature.
Even
that
is
important
for
us
to
be
able
to
get
that
information
to
the
residents.
D
Thank
you
and
to
take
that
even
further
out
to
follow
up
on
counselor
leeper's
comments,
if
you
weren't
to
try
to
focus
on
getting
that
information
out
to
the
vehicles
around
there,
if
you
were
just
trying
to
get
it
to
a
pedestrian
or
a
cyclist,
how
would
that
happen?
How
would
you
send
it
out
to
a
pedestrian.
E
Also,
I
mean-
I
guess
it-
you
know-
depends
upon
what
the
the
operation
that
the
pedestrian
is
is
undertaking.
For
example,
it
could
be
a
beacon
that
that
alerts
them
that
there's
a
large
truck.
That's
coming
that
may
run
the
red
light.
For
example,
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
sort
of
technology,
that's
at
the
cusp
that
people
are
trying
out
different
things
and
our
work
with
area
x.o
and
with
other
organizations
allow
us
to
sort
of
get
a
sense
of
what's
out
there
in
the
industry.
E
Not
everything
will
work
out
and
that's
why
we
undertake
the
idea
of
pilots
so
that
we
can
test
something
before
we
actually
want
to
deploy
that
in
a
larger
front.
But
you
know
if
it
could
just
be
like
a
mobile
app
that
goes
to
a
pedestrian
that
says
you
know
the
sidewalk
up
ahead
is
is
closed
and,
and
that
could
be
as
simple
as
that.
D
E
Yes,
we
I
mean
we
certainly
are
working.
You
know
or
oc.
Transpo
has
been
working
with
with
area
x.02
to
test
different
opportunities,
we're
working
with
them
to
identify
and
understand
what
the
technology
is,
because
it's,
for
example,
you
know
something
as
small
as
for
these
automated
shuttles,
something
as
small
as
the
lane
being
a
little
too
narrow
will
prevent
them
from
wanting
to
move
forward
because
they
have
such
safety
protocols
that,
if.
G
D
F
D
Technology
for
the
vehicles
is
being
produced
and
a
lot
of
the
testing
is
taking
place
here
or
over
in
barre
haven,
so
looking
at
how
that
would
apply
to
the
roads
you've
raised.
A
really
good
point
is
that
we
either
have
to
have
a
dedicated
track
for
these
autonomous
vehicles.
If
we're
going
that
route
or
hopefully,
if
they're
popular
enough,
we
could
actually
take
a
lane
of
the
road
and
come
and
designate
it
like.
We
do
today
for
bus
lanes.
We
could
actually
designate
those
lanes
for
autonomous
vehicles
and
move
more
people
around
correct.
D
E
So
the
the
the
canada
smart
intersection
is
really
a
test
environment,
a
real
world
test
environment.
So,
after
we've
been
able
to
validate
the
in
the
the
equipment
at
the
at
the
area,
x.o
private
track
we
and
and
our
staff
feel
comfortable
with
the
safety
considerations
of
the
the
devices
we
put
it
out
there
at
that
intersection.
But
that's
really
going
to
allow
for
everything
and
anything
that
we
want
to
test
at
that
location,
and
so
it
really
depends
upon.
E
You
know
what
is
the
goal
or
what
is
the
technology
that
you
want
to
apply
in
a
community
or
around
at
a
number
of
different
intersections?
It
won't
need
to
have
necessarily
all
wind
sensors.
All
you
know
the
precipitation
centers,
because
between
one
intersection
and
the
other
intersection,
it
probably
doesn't
make
a
big
difference,
but
maybe
speed
and
sensors
will
be
required.
So
it
really.
You
know
it
depends
upon
what
your
you,
what
goals
you
want
to
achieve
for
deployment-
I
guess
I'll
say,
but
it
won't
require
everything.
D
E
E
Well,
so
one
of
the
things
because
we
are
really
you
know,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
provide
an
environment,
but
it
will
also
make
sure
that
we're
maintaining
the
safety
of
our
own
traffic
network.
Our
tropics
signal
network
we've
actually
implemented
a
separate
cabinet
for
third-party
devices
to
be
able
to
test
it
in
as
well
as
a
separate
poll
for
them
to
be
able
to
test
it
in.
E
E
So
you
know
it
may
be
five,
ten
thousand
dollars
for
one
piece
of
equipment,
but
another
piece
of
equipment
like
a
camera,
that's
doing
ai,
that's
identifying
where
people
are
and
walking
that
might
be
50
to
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
So
it's
a
it's
a
sorry.
Unfortunately,
it's
hard
to
really
kind
of
give
you
a
hard
number
as
to
you
know.
D
Oh,
you
gave
us
a
picture.
You
gave
us
a
good
picture,
so
it'll
depend
on
what
the
requirements
are.
My
last
question
to
this
was
in
other
cities
that
are
working
on
this
around
the
world.
I've
noticed
that
some
of
them
are
putting
the
specs
out
there
as
to
what
the
sensor
would
look
like
to
say,
for
example,
gather
the
the
speed
of
cars
or
that
kind
of
thing
and
they're
letting
the
community
build
these
sensors
and
then
the
the
municipality
installs
them.
E
Well,
so
I
guess
I'll
say
in
some
ways
we
are.
We
are
already
doing
that
in
our
working
with
invest,
ottawa
and
and
area
x.0,
because
anybody
who
wants
to
build
the
technology
that
wants
to
be
able
to
test
that
and
develop
a
product
can
actually
do
that
and
working
with
invest
ottawa
get
the
necessary
support
to
be
able
to
build
a
business
around
that.
Because
I
I
mean
I,
I
don't
expect
that
someone
will
want
to
do
this
as
a
as
a
hobby,
but
not
actually
pursue
it
even
farther.
E
And
but
we
are
through
the
area
x.o
test
track.
We
can
actually
properly
run
through
the
testing
validate
how
it
works
and
support
them
to
make
sure
that
they
understand
some
of
the
nuances,
for
example,
of
deploying
in
a
real
world
and
municipal
environment
and
be
able
to
support
them
in
that
way
and
be
able
to
move
forward.
G
Thanks
very
much
chair
and
just
two
quick
questions:
I'll
try
to
not
be
too
long.
The
first
is
around
and
great
presentation
by
the
way,
really
interesting
to
see
some
of
this
technology
come
to
work
and
and
potentially
be
be
implemented.
I
was
interested
on
the
revert,
reds
piece
you
had.
You
had
gone
over
that
I
wonder
if
you
can
go
into
a
bit
more
detail
about
how
that
would
work,
if
it's
possible
to
roll
that
out,
you
know
what
it.
E
E
Anyone
present,
who
requires
to
take
that
left,
turn
movement
and
or
move
through
the
intersection,
and
so
the
the
amber
lock
system
will
essentially
once
the
signal
gets
to
a
particular
point
of
time.
It
will
automatically
go
through
that
next
green
light
for
the
side
street,
which
will
prevent
the
the
the
red
reverse
kind
of
happening.
I'm
not
sure
if
that
answers
enough
of
the
question,
if
you
or.
F
I
would
just
add,
in
terms
of
where
we're
looking
at
implementing,
I
think,
discussions
with
yourself
and
other
counselors.
We
have
a
you
know,
and
we
talked
about
this
in
the
road
safety
action
plan
report
that
we
brought
forward
back
in
2019
is
looking
at
facilities
where
we
know,
there's
always
cyclists.
So
you
know
at
maps
and
and
pathways
and
also
on
the
road
where
you've
got
bike
lanes
and
also
you
know,
residential
areas
where
we
know
there's
cyclists
there.
F
And
it's
when
they've,
let
in
which
issue
is
once
the
detection
is
no
longer
there.
The
light
thinks
there's.
No
one
there
and
it
goes
back
to
green,
so
we
would
do
that
lock
at
the
end
of
the
amber,
because
for
the
most
part
we
don't
see
people
leaving
before
the
lights
changed
from
the
amber
to
the
red,
and
that
would
resolve
that
issue.
C
F
G
G
So
what
we've
been
talking
about
with
with
phil's
group
and
phil's
team
is,
can
we
update
the
technology
so
that
when
the
car
gets
a
green,
there
is
a
walk
signal
every
single
time
as
well,
so
that
that
would
eliminate
the
need
to
push
that
button?
At
least
when
a
car
is
there?
We've
implemented
other
initiatives
around
removal
of
of
of
big
buttons,
which
is
a
which
is
a
bit.
G
B
E
No,
you
haven't
missed
something
cancer
yeah
three
years,
your
chair,
sorry,
we
aren't
you
know
in
some
ways
we
aren't
actually
working
on
the
vehicles
themselves,
where
we
want
to
deploy,
for
example,
these
low
speed,
automated
shuttles,
for
example.
It
does
need
to
go
through
a
good,
significant
amount
of
testing
in
winter
conditions.
E
Even
the
computer,
ai
and
being
able
to,
as
I
said,
if
someone's
wearing
a
white
parka
walking,
does
it
actually
recognize
them
and
if
we're
using
that
to
actually
count
information
or
to
track
whether
or
not
from
a
safety
perspective,
we
need
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
it
can
actually
identify
that
in
a
in
a
winter
storm
or
a
blizzard
kind
of
condition.
So
winter
testing
is
important
and
there's
only
so
much
things
that
I
could
talk
about
for
sure
in
the
presentation.
E
Yeah
I
mean
like
some
of
the
technology
has
been
using,
for
example,
in
in
the
mountain
regions
of
france
and
in
in
switzerland,
for
example,
so
they
do
have
winter
weather
conditions
there,
but
we
haven't
really
got.
We
haven't
had
the
chance
to
really
go
through
and
do
a
longer
term
testing
of
the
technology.
Yet,
okay.
A
Great
thank
you
for
that.
I,
I
don't
see
any
further
speakers
so
I'll
just
add
a
couple
of
quick
comments.
First
of
all,
what
a
presentation,
whether
it's
a
fuel
savings
which
obviously
helps
save
our
environment
from
a
safety
perspective,
the
whole
discussion
around
speeding,
I'll
just
leave
it
here
with
a
one
line
from
timbuk3
that
the
future
is
bright,
gotta,
wear
shades,
so
thanks
a
lot
omar
for
all
this
tremendous
work,
and
so
on
this
on
this
presentation.
Is
this
a
presentation
and
item
received
great?