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Transportation Committee meeting – March 2, 2016 – Audio Stream
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A
B
So
before
we
launch
into
the
the
formal
agenda
of
the
meeting,
I
just
like
to
take
an
opportunity
to
thank
our
snow
removal,
crews
that
were
out
again
at
work
last
night,
the
first
half
of
this
winter
was
was
great.
The
second
half
is
proving
to
be
quite
a
challenge
in
terms
of
the
intensity,
volume
and
regularity
of
these
storms.
B
We
got
a
little
bit
lucky
last
night
in
the
sense
that
we
didn't
get
as
much
snow
as
we
anticipated.
We've
got
about
12
centimeters
overnight.
As
of
about
6:30.
This
morning,
it's
still
falling
out
there.
The
staff
have
been
out
since
the
beginning
and
will
continue
to
be.
A
residential
plow
resident
repair
run
started
at
7
o'clock
this
morning
and
will
continue
until
we've
got
all
the
residential
streets
done.
B
But
again,
I
want
to
thank
staff.
As
I
said,
it
has
been
a
challenging
second
half
to
this
winter
and
I
think
that
they've
risen
to
the
challenge
and
I
would
send
the
same
positive
comments
out
to
OC
as
well.
Not
my
committee,
but
I
still
think
that
they've
done
an
excellent
job
in
getting
people
across
the
city.
B
In
very
difficult
weather
circumstances,
whether
it
be
freezing
rain
or
rain
or
snow
or
drizzle,
or
all
three,
sometimes
or
four
in
the
same
in
the
same
event,
so
I
just
wanted
to
acknowledge
that
and
thank
staff
for
the
work
that
they're
doing
it's
much
appreciated.
So
now
we'll
go
through
the
agenda.
B
B
B
Thirdly,
is
the
Bradley
estates,
Community
Association,
on
our
road
proposal
staff
review
and
we
have
a
delegation
on
that.
So
we'll
have
that
as
well.
Number
four:
is
the
temporary
outdoor
patio
encroachment
a
two
hundred
Elvin
Street?
We
have
no
delegations
on
this.
Can
we
carry
this
item?
Okay.
Thank
you.
Number
five
is
the
Ottawa
Road
174
Prescott
Russell
17
trim
Road
to
Canyon
Road
environmental
assessment
study
and
we
do
have
a
public
delegation
on
that.
B
There
are
some
people
in
my
community
that
want
to
create
sharing
libraries
in
the
neighborhood
by
setting
up
little
enclosures
to
pick
up
and
drop
off
books,
and
in
order
to
do
that,
they
need
a
waiver,
the
the
the
bylaw
to
be
on
the
sea
right-of-way,
even
though
it's
actually
going
to
be
on
their
on
their
lawns.
You
know
in
effect,
but
on
our
part
of
their
lawns.
So
if
there's
no
objection,
can
we
carry
that?
Okay,
thank.
B
Ahead
well,
it's
facilitated
in
a
sense
accounts
that
I
did
speak
to
to
staff
and
unfortunately
it
has
to
be
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
depending
on
what
the
location
is.
That
I
can
tell
you
from
working
with
staff
on
this.
It's
it's
a
very
simple
matter
to
to
go
out
with,
and
next
is
a
matter
for
counts
from
a
Kenny
business.
B
B
C
Is
the
so
I've
worked
with
staff
on
this
motion?
We've
recognized
the
efforts
of
Public
Works
and
the
fleet
group
to
bring
in
vehicles
and
think
that
a
greener
that
are
that
are
similar
in
price
range,
and
what
we've
noticed
is
that
in
this
case
it
says
client
service.
So
when
the
group
goes
out
and
works
with
the
different
departments,
the
departments
come
up
with
their
priorities
and
the
vehicles
and
work
with
the
fleet
staff,
but
there's
nothing
mandating
staff
to
use
to
purchase
equal
or
fair
value
vehicles
that
are
friendlier
to
the
environment.
C
Obviously,
on
the
green
fund
on
the
on
the
fleet
side,
they
push
it,
but
it's
not
mandated.
So
as
part
of
this
motion,
we
mandate
that
you
know
it's
it's
all
in
line
with
a
climate
change
plan,
it's
an
instant
line
also
with
purchasing
strategies
of
the
city.
So
it's
really
making
sure
that
as
part
of
this
and
I'll
be
there
therefore
be
it
resolved
so
that
everyone's
clear
it
was
all
that
transportation
committee
recommend
that
City
Council
approve
the
green
fleet
plan
on
the
understanding
that
the
Public
Works
Department
will
purchase
hybrid
electric
vehicles.
C
B
So
my
concern
about
this
motion
is:
is
this
mr.
Wylie?
Maybe
you
can
alway
that
concern,
so
you
what
get
your
operational
needs
and
you
need
for
you
snowplows,
for
example,
for
Zamboni's,
whatever,
whatever
the
vehicle?
Is
you
look
at
your
budget
and
you
have
the
money
to
buy,
for,
let's
use
the
term
regular
conventional
vehicles
or
you
have
the
money
to
buy
two
hybrids
or
electrical
or
whatever.
How
is
this
motion
that
impact
on
you
and
still
be
able
to
meet
operational
needs?
The.
B
Well,
until
you
run
over
a
half
a
million
dollars,
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
find
out
I'm
trying
to
fail
from
staff.
If
he,
if
you
exhaust
your
Green
Fund,
what's
the
impact
of
this
motional
purchases
going
forward?
Does
it
mean
you
have
to
take
your
regular
fleet
replacement
money
and
spend
it
on
green,
which
is
not
necessarily
a
bad
thing?
B
D
B
D
Think
what
motion
does
Joe
is
that
it
does
make
us
more
aggressive
toward
buying
more
green,
as
the
cost
of
hybrids,
for
instance,
comes
down
and
starts
to
meet
the
cost
of
regular
vehicles.
We
should
be
purchasing
more.
In
addition,
I
think.
The
other
thing
it
does
is
makes
the
goofy
team
transparent
for
council.
So
each
year
they
look
at
the
report,
I'll
replace
in
a
report.
B
B
A
Councillor
Bray
thanks
very
much
so
I
appreciate
that
the
intent
and
spirit
of
motion
is,
as
you
described,
I
always
get
caught
in
the
conundrum,
though
it's
great
while
you're
here
and
it's
great
well,
maybe
ten
of
the
people
in
this
room
continue
to
be
here.
But
what
happens
you
get
hit
by
a
bus
tomorrow
and
your
replacement?
Your
replacement,
interprets
the
motion
in
a
different
way.
So
is
there
a
way
to
finesse
it
in
such
a
way
that
it
doesn't
lead
to
the
outcomes
that
that
councilor
Engel
I
was
talking
about.
A
B
I
would
agree
at
that
because
I
the
motion
again
after
you
answer
the
questions
we
don't
talk
about.
We
attack
the
defeat
plan
that
we
member
referenced
the
green
fee
fund,
so
if
it
counts
for
four
years,
okay
with
that
is
essentially
a
friendly
amendment.
If
the
court
could
amend
the
motion
that
okay
counsel
for
yes,
okay.
A
Mister
I
have
all
their
questions
when
assessing
the
the
the
options
for
purchasing
green
vehicles.
You
know
for
motor
vehicles
is
probably
they're
an
easy
there's:
lots
of
industry
standards
and
the
consumer
acceptance
and
etc,
but
for
non-traditional
vehicles.
What's
the
evaluation
process
for
their
efficacy
and
efficiency
in
delivering
what
they
need
to
do.
You
know
we
had
obviously
a
very
unfortunate
situation.
Natosi
transfer
where
certain
green
vehicles
did
not
meet
the
standards
on
the
financial
recovery
side
that
were
expected,
and
so
what
processes
are
gone
through,
evaluate
you
know
a
Zamboni
or
snow
power.
D
A
B
A
Say
I
just
want
clarification,
also
on
you
know
the
OC
Transpo
experience
and
the
actual
real
savings
and
efficiencies
weren't,
but
one
we
are
investing
in
the
hybrid
models
too
and
I
just
I,
don't
understand
the
the
motion
seems
too
redundant
to
me
because
I
think
we've
already
give
this
direction
and
in
the
plan
that
we
have
for
the
green
fleet,
so
am
I
wrong.
In
that
assumption.
D
Jeff
I
think
again
is
not
to
be
myself,
but
what
the
motion
does,
in
my
mind,
is,
makes
it
much
more
transparent.
So,
for
instance,
if
we
go
to
a
client
group
and
offer
a
green
option
and
they
give
us
an
operational
reason
that
they
can't
go
with
a
green
option,
that's
going
to
be
something
that
cancers
will
see.
The
challenge
the
department
heads
on.
A
F
Thank
you,
I
do
see
the
value
in
bumping
this
up,
if
you
will,
in
terms
of
its
transparency
and
and
suppose
the
clarity
that
we
will
always
look
at
these
options,
won't
necessarily
choose
them,
but
we'll
look
at
them
in
a
report
as
to
why
we
did
or
didn't
didn't
choose
them.
I'm.
Certainly
an
advocate
of
only
making
these
kinds
of
purchases
when
there
is
either
no
no
in
terms
of
cost
or
financial
savings
over
the
long
term.
D
F
To
pick
up,
then,
on
counselor
base,
point
and
I
think
a
number
of
others
sentiment
as
well
is
that
we
did
have
an
unfortunate
experience
with
a
hybrid
bus
at
hybrid
buses.
I
think
we
can
all
not
agree
that,
given
that
the
real
used,
the
the
runs
that
OC
Transpo
does
and
where
the
hybrid
buses
were
supposed
to
it
offered
a
benefit,
didn't
end
up
matching,
very
well
with
the
distances
and
the
highway
driving,
and
that
sort
of
that
sort
of
thing.
F
B
C
C
The
first
therefore
being
resolved
I
just
want
to
clarify,
with
with
you
or
Kevin,
that
under
existing
condition
at
equal
price.
So
just
for
sake
of
discussion,
if
we
were
buy
a
Honda,
Civic
and
Honda
Civic
Hybrid
is
the
same
price.
That
amount
of
money
would
not
come
from
the
green
plan.
It
would
come
from
regular
fleet
spendings.
Is
that
correct.
D
C
I
just
want
to
highlight
to
two
little
segments
so
on
the
Zamboni
front.
I
think
that
the
derivatives
of
costs
are
important
to
know
as
well,
so
the
a
non
electric
Zamboni
requires
us
to
do
many
dampers
and
many
systems
filter
in
the
arena's
that
are
actually
very
expensive
to
do
when.
So,
when
you
look
at
just
the
cost
of
the
Zamboni,
it's
it's
a
dis
descent
of
to
go
to
the
electric
Zamboni.
C
But
when
you
look
at
the
overall
cost
of
the
operation
of
the
arena,
my
understanding
is
that
there
might
be
might
be
a
significant,
a
reduction
in
price,
so
I'm
just
saying
out
there,
because
I
think
it's
important
to
recognize
that
it's
not
simply
the
vehicle,
the
the
those
derivatives
and
there's
benefits
elsewhere.
That
also
need
to
be
financially
accounted
for,
and,
finally,
I
think
that
we
should
be
careful
around
low
gas
prices,
because
2016
15
2016
roll
gas
prices
when
we
buy
a
car
or
a
vehicle
for
five
years.
C
C
We
have
seen
a
reduction
but
overall
I
think
the
investments
and,
as
highlighted
by
by
Kevin,
that
hybrid
vehicles
have
become
a
lot
more
competitive
in
prices
and
I
recognize
that
in
our
fleet
services
we
have
vehicles
that
are
that
do
very
heavy
duty
work
and
that's
different.
But,
for
example,
by
law,
cars
should
all
be
very
fuel-efficient,
they're,
always
on
the
road.
They
always
stop
start.
So
there's
there's,
there's
similarities
there.
So
I'm
really
speaking-
and
this
motion
really
targets
the
VQ
fleet
that
we
have,
but
we
expanded
across
across
the
entire
review.
G
H
H
D
H
That's
the
timeframe
for
that
pilot
project.
That's
correct!
Yeah
thanks
and
my
other
question
will
be
on.
We
did
a
pilot
on
on
a
paramedic
and
we
put
install
some
equipment
that
will
it
doesn't
necessary
right
now
we
can
run
the
to
help
decrease
the
idling
time.
Can
you
give
us
quick
how
this
is
going
and
and
the
timeframe
of
implementing
the
whole
project
on
that
matter?
H
E
We've
done
two
things
with
the
paramedics:
the
one
is
putting
additional
heating
systems
that
are
separate
from
the
actual
vehicle,
so
you
don't
draw
the
battery
that
was
in
first
pass
and
all
that
ambulance
has
been
equipped
with
that
now.
The
second
phase
we're
referring
to
there
is
a
full
comprehensive
at
the
idling
system.
B
You
any
other
questions
on
the
main
report:
Carrie
Kelly.
Thank
you,
I
think
we'll
jump
ahead
to
number
7
on
the
agenda,
because
the
vice
chair
is
now
in
the
room
and
she's
indicated
she's
got
no
concerns
about
the
item
and
miss
admin.
I
understand
that
specimens
Toria
as
much
as
we
enjoy
your
company
I
understand
that
if
this
this
is
going
to
pass
that
you
don't
don't
need
to
present.
Does
anybody
have
any
concerns
about
this
item?.
D
D
We're
definitely
a
better
pricing,
also
improve
delivery.
Timelines
was
an
anticipated
benefit
having
the
right
part
at
the
right
time
and
also
decreasing.
You
know
we
were
paying
an
administration
fee
to
decreasing
in
administrative
costs,
because
we
found
an
efficiency
of
12
F
teams
at
the
time
from
the
sleep
arts
area.
D
D
One
of
the
big
issues
with
the
contract
was
that,
where
the
model
I
should
say
that
didn't
work
so
well
is
that
the
Napa
inventory
system
could
not
be
reconciled
with
the
city's
inventory
system,
and
this
is
an
issue
because
it
continually
resulted
in
wrong
parts
being
delivered
to
our
mechanics
and
that
resulted
in
two
day
delay
of
vehicles
and,
of
course
we
need
the
vehicles
on
the
road.
For
days
like
today,
yes,
I
found
that
the
inventory
stock
was
not
being
managed
proactively.
D
D
In
2015
receipt
services
contract
at
Bronson
consultant,
and
they
conducted
the
review,
the
findings
of
the
review
that
they
compared
prices,
the
city
paid
to
Napa
versus
the
standard
industry
prices,
and
they
did
find
that
we
are
receiving
very
fair
pricing
from
Napa.
However,
they
also
mention
that
the
mark-up
could
be
avoided
if
we
went
directly
to
the
vendors.
So
as
a
result
of
that,
the
city
requests
that
the
city
issued
a
request
for
information
to
look
at
different
fleet,
part
supply
matters,
and
we
contacted,
and
we
went
directly
to
the
vendors.
D
As
I
said,
the
I
have
I
looked
at
various
service
models
available.
Our
our
primary
interest
was
to
remain
was
that
the
parts
inventory
remaining
with
the
vendors
so
that
we
could
avoid
that
we
purchasing
in
two
parts.
However,
the
results
of
the
RFI
showed
where
the
study
showed
that
no
single
vendor
ability
to
undertake
the
full
program,
because
we
have
such
a
large
variety
of
fleet
vehicles
and
equipment.
Nobody
has
the
expertise
to
manage
all
those
parts,
mostly
those
man
that
supported
the
existing
service
model
without
some
sort
of
variation
and.
D
The
RFI
confirmed
an
in-house
management
with
appealing
allowing
two
market
segments
not
going
back
to
the
300
buggers,
but
to
choose
a
discrete
number
of
market
segments
would
be
the
best
model
going
forward.
We
do
have
the
expertise
to
manage
the
parts,
and
this
is
the
common
practice
in
most
municipalities
that
we
benchmarked
against
to.
D
We
are
anticipating
doing
the
new
system
with
5
ft
s
will
have
need
new
FTS
we're
going
to
be
doing
it
within
our
conch
allotment
and
the
less
effort
less
lefties
are
required
because,
as
I
said,
not
going
back
to
the
300
vendor
contacts,
we
anticipate
with
the
new
system
just
using
dealing
with
four
vendors
in
four
discrete
segments
and
the
segment's
are
laid
three
parts:
heavy
fleet
parts,
bulk
fluids
and
potentially
specialty
items
by
leaving
it
just
with
four.
We
think
that
we'll
be
able
to
do
with
a
lot
less
stuff.
D
I
wanted
to
mention
a
few
additional
steps.
As
councils
are
aware,
we
have
paused
for
2016
on
a
replacement
plan
that
we
do
absolutely
operational
review.
This
means
that
we
have
greater
need
to
make
sure
that
we
get
parts
in
a
timely
fashion
because
the
vehicles
have
to
stay
on
the
road
us
were
not
replacing
them.
They're
gonna
be
older.
It's
important
that
our
staff
continue
working
through
as
they
maintain
there
will
be
more
efficiencies
in
the
service
review.
B
B
D
B
D
D
I
I
D
I
What's
the
base
time
I
get,
there
are
no
systems
in
place?
Is
it
have
we
used
an
IT
system
upgrade
like
how
do
we
just
have
that
many
less
staff
I
understand
you're
gonna,
try
and
use
those
vendors,
but
it's
still
a
major
fleet.
It's
a
huge
fleet.
It's
lots
of
geography.
There's
like
how
do
you
get
to
five
people.
D
E
Want
to
make
the
point
you
actually
have
staff
who
remain
behind
after
the
last
Starscream
I
took
place
when
that
was
outsourced.
So
we
still
have
our
expertise
in
how
so
you
have
so
it's
not
just
five
taking
us
over
there
joining
the
group
that
already
exists
that
we're
supporting
the
Napa
contract
from
the
city
side.
I
Reserve
since
we're
taking
another
four
and
a
half
million
dollars,
so
you
said
something
that
you
wanted:
that
kind
of
Concerned
me.
You
said
that
not
a
lot
of
old
stock
that
was
being
kept
and
not
utilized
so
is
the
four
and
a
half
million
dollars
that
we're
buying
back
the
old
stock.
That
is
out
of
date,
and
we
won't
be
able
to
use.
I
E
E
D
But
it's
almost
like
a
floating
reserve.
As
you
tender
vehicles,
you
get
them
at
a
lower
price.
Then
you
have
more
money
that
floats
from
your
two
year,
so
we
do
anticipate
after
we
do.
Our
operation
was
you
that
the
consultant
will
come
back
and
and
cancel
accept
a
level
of
investment
in
our
fleet.
That'll
remain
constant.
What
we're
talking
about
here
is
over
above
that,
okay.
I
E
J
J
D
We
did
and
if
I
can
maybe
categories
at
a
different
way,
contract
was
only
part
of
the
transformation
and,
like
I,
said
in
the
presentation
at
the
time
it
kind
of
triggered
other
efficiencies
that
we
were
able
to
gain.
Looking
back,
we
think
we
can
do
better
and
that's
what
this
report
is
about.
We
think
we
can
do
better
with
the
fleet
parts
and
achieve
over
and
above
the
3.9
that
we've
already
achieved.
J
B
D
You
collect
you
and
I
think
to
answer
the
count.
Sir.
That's
it
speaks
to
the
operational
efficiency
reviews
that
we're
on,
but
we're
undertaking
right
now.
It's
not
doing
the
same
thing
better.
It's
doing
something
different
and
that's
what
we're
doing
here
we're
doing
something
different,
we're
not
dealing
with
300
vendors
and
the
administrative
nightmare
that
that
presents
we're
dealing
with
four
vendors
in
four
distinct
Supremes,
four
vendors
that
are
very
well
versed
and
very
capable
of
managing
the
parts
and
the
fluids
that
they're
to
manage.
D
D
J
G
D
The
the
will
be
capable
of
delivering
on
those
four
streams
of
parts
I
should
have
mentioned
at
the
outset.
The
the
difference
in
the
more
the
big
difference
in
the
model
is
that
currently
Knapp
manages
the
city
stores
in
the
city
buildings,
so
the
parts
come
in
to
them
and
there's
exchange
at
the
counter,
and
that's
where
we're
having
trouble
with
it.
The
language
is
talking
the
two
systems
talking
together
and
also
the
timely
delivery
of
parts.
D
In
the
new
model,
the
four
vendors
will
deliver
to
our
dock,
the
parts
that
we
order
and
then
our
staff
will
take
over
and
put
them
in
the
system
and
then
deliver
them
to
the
mechanics.
I
think
that's
a
much
more
effective
way
of
doing
you're
not
dealing
with
multiple
handoffs
you're,
just
dealing
with
one
hand
off
at
the
loading
dock.
Any.
G
D
We
don't
know
until
we
go
to
tender,
but
from
what
Bronson
and
the
Bronson
consulting
report
found
was
that
we
will
we
can
achieve
in
the
market
in
a
competitive
process
similar,
if
not
better,
pricing
they're,
not
what
was
giving
us
less.
Of
course,
the
ten
percent
mark
markup
that
not
report
on
parts
in.
G
D
G
Terms
of
remember
back
in
2010,
the
reason
why
I
went
to
the
current
model
sort
of
is
the
fact
that
we
were
having
difficulty
managing
number
of
units
or
number
of
parts
that
we
were
dealing
with.
Every
time
there
was
a
change
in
technology
in
a
service
vehicle
we
had
to
get
rid
of
the
old
Nitori.
Can
you
see
that
similar
problem
with
this
model.
D
G
I'm
talking
about
when
we
set
up
our
own
system
and
the
SKUs
that
were
listing,
let's
say
we're
listing
300
different
items
and
all
of
a
sudden,
as
we
heard
this
morning
in
the
previous
item,
over
demanding
change
in
terms
of
a
better
vehicle
or
more
efficient
vehicle.
That
obviously
would
put
pressure
on
the
system
that
you're
working
with
any
idea
what
what
percentage
of
that
system
would
be
obsolete
in
terms
of
number
of
SKUs.
So.
D
G
E
Sense
or
less
depending
on
the
market
can
compete
with
us.
So,
for
example,
we
outsource
the
oil
changes
on
light
vehicles
because
it
was
more
effective
for
them
to
do
it.
So
we
spend
contracting
at
about
7
million
dollars
a
year
on
our
77
million
dollar
budget,
some
of
those
for
small
call-ups,
and
so
we
do
the
percentage
I'm
not
sure
this
year.
G
Okay,
just
coming
back
to
the
private
vendors
in
terms
of
servicing
our
vehicles,
any
give
me
one
example
where
you
would
send
a
vehicle
out
for
servicing
to
somebody
versus
in-house
servicing,
and
is
it
because
of
parts
lack
of
parts,
or
is
it
because
the
service
requires
that
much
more
expertise?
What
is
it
typically.
D
E
G
H
You
mr.
chair
I
have
a
few
concern
and
one
of
them
is
relate
to
the
question,
but
councillor
Dean's
asked
I
know:
do
we
have
an
inventory
we
have
to
buy
back.
Do
we
have
expertise
enough
in
our
with
our
team
right
now
to
making
sure
when
we
have
this
takeover
making
sure
or
not
getting
stock
that
it's
not
belong
to
us
and
stock
has
been
sitting?
There
is
any
mechanism
at
this
point
that
we're
not
getting
more
stuff
from
Napa,
so
we're
not
gonna
be
end
up
on
the
hook
for
the
4.5
million
dollar.
H
H
H
Proper
parts-
and
we
have
so
many
emergency
vehicles
and
things
like
that
and
flooding
the
garage
and
will
not
be
able
to
put
them
back
on
the
road
in
a
timely
fashion
and,
as
you
know,
we
have
five
months
left
for
that
contract
and
if
somebody,
if
a
vendor
knows
that
he's
losing
contract.
So
we
already
have
a
challenge
with
the
service
and
do
we
have
assurance
or
we
have
a
plan
B
are
we
gonna
burn
all
our
budget
from
now
to
July
so
be
able
to
take
over
and
have
that
soft
transition?
H
D
H
Thank
you
and
I,
just
at
the
end,
I
just
wanna
I
did
myself
visit
the
garages
and
Don
took
me
on
the
tour
I,
encourage
all
my
counselor
colleague
to
go
out
I'm,
really
happy
to
see
that
the
process
is
coming
back
and
I
hope
you
learned
something
from
the
past,
because
I
know
this.
The
system
was
in
house
before
and
we
learn
our
lesson.
I
hope
we
can
learn
from
this
process
and
moving
forward.
We
are
more
efficient.
Thank
you
very
much
for
being
here.
A
Thank
you,
I
just
want
to
pick
up
on
that
and
on
the
operations
perspective,
cuz
I'm
not
very
familiar,
whether
we're
talking
about
4500
vehicles,
265
thousand
parts.
So
how
do
we
with
the
additional
five
FTEs?
Do
we
rotate
those
people
or
do
we
locations
set
up
where
mechanics
go
there
and
rotate
between
different
sites?
Can
you
explain
the
operations
just
a
bit
so.
E
A
E
E
A
D
B
K
K
Mr.
chair
councillor,
medic
councillors
and
members
of
the
committee,
thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
the
opportunity
to
speak
this
morning.
My
name
is
Danilo
and
I'm.
One
of
the
directors
on
the
Bradley
estate
community
association
board
I,
could
spend
the
next
five
minutes.
Speaking
to
you
about
the
numbers,
the
ten
thousand
vehicles
that
use
Brunel
Road
on
a
daily
basis
or
the
seven
other
vehicles
each
hour
during
peak
hours
or,
most
importantly,
the
seventy-five
percent
of
the
vehicles
that
use
are
in
a
road
to
get
to
the
south
of
the
city.
K
We
all
have
these
these
these
numbers
as
data,
so
we'll
share
with
you.
The
impact
that
these
numbers
have
on
our
on
our
neighborhood
traffic
in
our
community
is
a
very
serious
issue
that
continues
to
dominate
our
AGMs
in
all
of
our
community
forms.
We've
totally
over
the
years
with
our
city
councillors,
both
past
and
present,
to
install
a
wide
variety
of
traffic,
calming
measures
in
our
community
exponential
lines
painted
medians
children
that
play
signs
and
flex
signs
just
to
name
a
few.
K
K
Commuters
wanting
to
go
east
wanting
to
go
west
from
east
and
south
are
now
choosing
to
bypass
the
long
line
and
they
actually
go
into
our
community
streets
in
order
to
join
later
on,
avoiding
lineups
because
of
this
Bradley
estate,
community
association
decided
to
look
at
the
root
of
the
problem
where
no
road
has
become
one
of
the
most
important
commuter
corridors
in
Orleans
for
East
South
traffic.
These
been
day
traffic
calming
measures
will
continue
to
have
little
to
no
effect.
K
The
174
sinkhole
that
we
all
remember,
during
which
time
the
city
recommended
render,
was
an
alternate
route,
even
providing
a
police
officer
to
direct
traffic
to
our
neighborhood,
the
intersection,
but
that
police
officer
eventually
left.
But
the
traffic
along
with
the
dangerous
side
effects
remain,
and
people
took
notice
that
the
wars
are
not
into
the
road.
And
finally,
the
Anderson
Road
the
boat,
which
has
been
extremely
effective
about
optimizing
traffic
flow
at
the
ones
very
problematic
intersection,
but
having
the
reverse
effect
on
traffic
in
our
neighborhood.
K
That's
right
thing,
even
more
commuters,
more
aggression,
more
road
rage,
more
noise
and
so
forth.
The
Hunt
Club
exchange
on
the
417
also
showed
an
increase
in
traffic,
making
it
very
convenient
for
Lin's
commuters
to
get
to
the
south
of
this
city
and
there's
more
and
more
people
wanting
to
go
in
that
direction.
It
is
easy
for
see
future
irreversible
spikes
in
volume,
the
next
leg
of
the
brian
corbin
extension
navin
road
and
the
continuous
construction
of
thousands
of
home
to
the
east
of
where
we
are
in
Baddeley
estates.
K
When
a
road
is
an
extremely
opponent
east
south.
Can
you
record,
or
even
consular
Blair
correctly
pointed
out
there,
that
Brunner
Road
serves
as
a
major
artery
for
Orleans
residents,
traveling,
west
and
south,
which
choose
to
avoid
the
rush-hour
gridlock
on
Innes
or
the
Queensway,
and
he's
absolutely
correct.
Many
homeowners
relied
on
our
CDP
to
ease
their
fears
of
the
ever-increasing
volume
in
traffic.
It
states
in
the
CDP
that
it
aims
to
reduce
cut
through
traffic
in
the
Greenbelt
along
run,
a
road
and
reduce
the
number
of
Mud
Creek
crossings.
K
K
Thus,
our
community
would
continue
to
look
at
this
degrading
effects
and
the
high
volume
of
community
traffic.
The
realign
that
the
rural
road
has
proposed
to
connect
with
Anderson
Road
meets
the
obvious
needs
of
all
these
mirrors
for
an
East
South
Corridor,
as
well
as
east-west
corridor,
which
are
currently
being
met
by
Road
with
dangerous
to
ninety
degree
curves
and
passes
through
a
bustling
neighborhood
ours
with
parts
and
school
and
kids.
K
B
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
for
coming
coming
out
this
morning,
I
understand
when
you
say
the
last
phase
of
the
Ryan
coburn
out
to
mer
bleue
how
that
would
have
led
to
more
traffic
on
line
no
Road
as
they
head
south
and
then
and
then
less
than
in
the
city.
I.
Don't
understand,
though,
why
the
next
stage,
the
extension
to
Navin,
will
make
that
worse,
because
those
wanting
to
go
west
we'll
continue
on
Brian
:
out
to
Navin,
as
opposed
to
going
south
and
then
West
again
on
Renault,
etc,
etc,
etc.
A
K
K
Those
who
are
coming
to
renault
right
now
coming
from
from
Wei,
East's
and
all
liens,
and
all
this
they
would
see
very
little
benefit
for
them
to
go
north
and
that
bypass
and
then
returning
backtracking
to
go
back
to
the
today
to
the
nice
around
about
that.
We
have
now
at
Enderson
row
and
then
for
going
south.
This
is
where
the
growth
is
going
right
now
yeah.
This
is
why
these
people
will
still
want
to
go
that
way.
Yeah,
okay,.
A
A
K
Like
I
mentioned
there
Bradley
estates
we
take
we're
known,
60%
of
residents
live
south
of
Renault
and
40%
live
north.
We
have
beautiful
parks,
on
the
north
hand,
side
our
hockey
rink
is
there
right
now
and
for
the
kids
basically
to
go
and
play
in
those
parks.
They
have
to
cross
RINO
right
now.
The
parents
basically
will
not
let
them
go,
they
will
not
let
them
were
walked.
K
It
will
not
let
them
bite
to
the
respect,
because
the
very
we
have
on
another
no
and
that
one
at
the
section
there
that
you
have
to
take
your
life
in
your
hands
when
you
want
to
cross
there
at
Joshua
and
and
or
no
parents
will
not
do
that
was
mentioned
there,
that
we
have.
We
have
a
school
elementary
school
I
know.
I,
know
nobody
walks
to
that
school.
Nobody
bikes
to
that
school.
Everybody
is
out
there
bussed
or
driven
to
that
school.
K
For
the
same
reason,
and
if
you,
if
you,
if
you
stay
outside
on
during
the
day
on
and
listen
to
the
traffic
on
the
road,
in
fact,
some
some
traffic
data
was
was
gathered
on
this
saying
over
a
24-hour
period.
The
the
average
speed
on
the
50-kilometer
road
was
74
and
he
was
talked
as
high
as
130,
because
it
is
a
straight
stretch
that
we
have
there.
So
the
volume
of
traffic
will
continue
to
be
that
it's
noise,
its
pollution,
but
it
is
most
importantly,
safety
for
kids.
K
Then
people
who
want
to
use
the
part
that
we
have
there.
We
have
a
beautiful
trail,
/
Scott
Russell's
trail
there.
Unfortunately,
the
the
trail
is
crossed
twice
by
Renault,
Road
and
believe
me,
you
do
not
cost
that
run
or
coming
on
the
trail
without
getting
off
your
bike
and
making
sure
that
the
traffic
is
going
through
and
it
happens
twice
during
at
the
end
right
in
those
two
money
degree
turn.
K
A
B
B
L
B
L
L
L
L
The
main
takeaway
points
are
got
from.
The
study
was
the
local
jobs
for
one
and
three
role:
employees
and
the
rest
huge
to
suburban
urban
jobs.
Only
one
on
20,
where
travelers
have
transit,
passes
adults
here
to
use
in
the
parkin
ride,
and
the
city
has
projected
rapid
growth
in
both
owners
and
Rockland.
L
Using
the
American
EPA's
formula
for
annual
passenger
vehicle
emissions
are
estimated
that
1,000
more
cars
commuting
from
Auckland
to
audience
will
create
4400
metric
tons
of
carbon
dioxide
each
year,
urban
sprawl
comes
at
a
cost
and
we
should
be
aware
of
greenhouse
gas
emissions
from
our
commuters
travel
to
the
core.
It
will
be
impossible
to
meet
at
greenhouse
gas
emission
targets
pursuing
business
as
usual.
L
Business
is
usual
approach
of
building
more
and
more
roads
to
the
outer
reaches
of
the
city,
with
only
which
always
encourages
urban
sprawl.
I
suggest
the
transportation
committee
consider
requesting
a
further
analysis
be
done
in
an
environmental
assessment
study
to
include
greenhouse
gas
emissions,
whether
its
term
of
council
priority
street
strategic,
objective
and
initiative.
Ps1
everyone
wants
less
congestion.
That
is
what
we
are
doing
and
wider
roads
help
accommodate
more
drivers,
congestion,
temporarily
Canada's
eco
fiscal
commission
think
congestion.
Congestion
pricing
is
the
missing
piece
of
the
puzzle.
Road
use
is
free
what
traffic
is
expensive.
A
A
L
A
That's
that
is
perfectly
fair
point
at
present,
if
you're
a
clearance,
Rocklin
residents
resident,
the
bus
passes
upwards
of
two
hundred
and
eighty
dollars
and
you're
stuck
in
a
single
lane
on
a
bus
in
gridlock
traffic.
So
the
incentives
to
use
transit
are
not
very
high.
It's
slow
and
it's
exceedingly
expensive,
as
we
extend
my
rail
to
Arlene's
and
possibly
even
to
trim
and
if
we
provide
a
free-flowing
transit
lane
for
these
buses
operate
in.
L
A
Think
that's
a
fair
point.
I
think
the
recommendations
are
important,
certainly
as
the
council
for
the
area
and
I'm
speaking
with
the
other
counselors
that
are
impacted
by
this
I
think
we're
all
right
in
the
same
right
in
the
sandbox
here
and
in
terms
of
how
to
make
this
work
and
why
we're
really
doing
this.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
presentation.
H
F
Actually
I
realize
it's
perhaps
more
thanks
than
I
than
a
question.
I
do
for
colleagues
who
might
not
have
had
time
to
look
at
miss
Biggs
presentation,
I
I'm
a
little
bit
funny
that
way,
I
made
time
for
the
for
this
one.
It's
a
particular
interest
of
mine
and
my
item
coming
shortly,
ties
into
the
possible
study
of
congestion
pricing.
Thank
you
for
a
lot
of
useful
information
to
feed
into
all
of
our
decisions
on
our
transportation
networks
and
some
recent
studies
on
on
pricing.
What
isn't
isn't
working
in
in
various
venues,
so
I?
F
B
B
F
Guess
I
have
a
question
just
staff
on
the
whole
report
em
and
stemming
from
the
point
that
miss
Biggs
made
to
what
degree
does
an
environmental
assessment,
so
the
mandated
process
take
into
account
greenhouse
gas
emission
reductions,
increases
and
mommy
will
ask
you
to
answer
that.
Venoms
do
I
follow
up.
M
In
every
environmental
assessment
study,
there
is
an
analysis
of
air
quality,
so
particulates
particulate
matter,
nitrogen
dioxide
and
carbon
monoxide.
Those
are
all
assessed
and
those
are
the
things
that
come
out
of
vehicle
exhaust,
and
this
study
shows
that,
even
with
the
widening,
we
are
still
within
the
acceptable
limits
recognized
by
the
the
province.
Ghg
itself
is
not
a
component
of
the
EA,
because
that's
on
much
that
should
be
dealt
with
in
a
broader
area
rather
than
just
individual
projects,
because
it
ties
into
major
transportation
as
well
as
land
use.
M
F
Interesting
I
guess
there
you're
growing
societal
recognition
and
obviously
councils
recognition
with
a
recent
passage
of
new
targets
and
higher
goals
that
knowing
our
emissions
and
opportunities
to
reduce
them
and
definitely
not
increase
them.
Where
would
you
say,
is
the
best
place
to
insert
that
perhaps
new
lens,
perhaps
new,
mandatory
reporting
so
that
we
have
that
information
when
we
make
a
decision
that
would.
M
Tie
into
our
master
plans
and
our
official
plan,
so
they
deal
with
the
the
city
develops
and
where
it
develops.
We
can
certainly
do
that
analysis
with
the
TMP
with
our
trans
model,
looking
at
the
different
types
of
land-uses
or
the
road
network,
and
what
the
impact
would
be
so
for
future
to
to
address
future
needs,
then
we
look
at
how
do
we
minimize
that,
through
what
types
of
transportation
facilities
do
we
build
more
transit,
less
a
fewer
roads,
more
active
transportation
corridors?
Those
kinds
of
things
will
help.
M
F
Good
to
hear,
because
my
sense
quite
a
strong
sense,
the
signals
are
both
provincially
and
federally.
There
will
be
a
very
green
tinge
to
and
greenhouse
gas
reduction
tinge
to
infrastructure
funding
coming
forward.
We
don't
know
the
specifics
yet,
but
to
be
able
to
make
a
for
Ottawa
to
be
able
to
make
a
case
that
certain
projects
qualify,
I
think
would
be
very
helpful.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you.
Any
other
questions
for
staff
report.
Carry
this
amendment.
Okay,
thank
you
back
onto
the
agenda.
Then
the
we
have
no
in
camera
items.
The
information
is,
as
previously
distributed
to
committee
members
go
for
items
see.
Counselor
mishchenko
would
like
to
lift
the
studying
the
best
practices
of
road
pricing
and
requires
two-thirds
in
order
to
do
that.
So
do
we
do
allow
him
to
do
that
correct?
Yes,
please.
B
B
F
Introduce
as
I
understand
it,
yes,
please
and
I
think
this
is
simpler
than
it
looks.
I
won't
read
the
whole
motion,
but
essentially
what
I
am
I'll
tell
you
what
I'm
trying
to
do
and
what
I'm
not
trying
to
do.
I
am
NOT
trying
to
get
on
the
floor
right
now,
Council
to
agree
to
fund
a
study
of
congestion,
pricing
and
road
tolls,
etc.
F
What
this
motion
does
is
ask
that
staff
include
in
their
planning
for
the
next
transportation
master
plan,
a
study
that
would
essentially
inform
either
this
council
or
a
future
Council
of
what
the
best
practices
are
in
congestion
pricing.
What's
working
in
other
cities,
what
isn't
what
Ottawa
might
want
to
consider
and
because
I
think
that
would
be
a
useful,
useful
input
to
the
future
master
planning
so
I'm.
F
Essentially
at
this
point
it's
a
fairly
open
request
that
staff
come
back
at
a
future
budget
year
with
a
with
a
proposal
for
a
study
and
the
costs
associated
with
that,
and
we
at
that
point
would
debate.
We
would
know
the
proposed
cost
and
we
would
debate
actually
adopting
that.
So
perhaps
this
is
an
advanced
notice.
More
than
anything.
F
G
G
B
B
Qualify
for
a
second
here
as
the
as
the
court
pointed
out,
counselor,
chair,
Shango,
just
clarified
he's
not
asking.
This
is
a
notice
of
motion
to
be
dealt
with
later.
He
wants
to
dealt
with
today,
so
we
actually
have
to
vote
on
that
as
well.
So
are
we
okay
with
the
motion
preceding
day?
If
we're
not,
then
you
don't
need
to
ask
any
questions
because.
I
B
B
I
Personally,
I
have
two
minds
of
this
motion,
so
maybe
a
little
more
time
to
contemplate.
It
wouldn't
be
a
bad
thing
for
me,
but
normally
when
we
waive
the
rules
to
address
an
issue,
it's
because
it's
a
time-sensitive
issue,
so
I
guess
I
decide
to
here
for
the
move
of
the
motion.
What
is
the
time
sensitivity
around
this
issue?
Question.
B
F
I'm
glad
to
address
there
is
not
a
time
sensitivity.
It
was
simply
because
we
were
receiving
the
report
that
this
was
the
opportunity
to
lift
it
and
it
seemed
the
best
time
to
move
the
motion.
I
had
not
thought
of
it,
but
I'd
be
just
as
comfortable
with
it
being
a
notice
of
motion
and
that
we
properly.
I
B
B
I
Basically,
the
motion
is
around
signage
for
the
Children's
Hospital
of
Eastern
Ontario
youth,
not
program,
and
the
urgency
is.
The
program
is
already
up
and
running
and
they're
already
some
confusion
being
experienced
with
the
location
of
it.
So
they
need
this
signage
if
we
waited
until
the
next
meeting,
April
6
with
the
time
it
takes
to
prepare
everything
that
would
be
willing
to
made
before
they
could
get
the
signage
and
it's
a
problem
so
they've
asked
to
have
it
walked
on
to
this
agenda
is.
I
That
is
designed
to
promote
balanced
mental
health
and
reduce
stigma
surrounding
mental
issues
for
youth
and
whereas
many
of
the
youth
who
attend
the
program
arrive
using
public
transportation
and
whereas
Chia
has
identified
a
need
for
a
sign
directing
the
participants
of
the
CHEO
youth
net
program
to
their
facility
at
23:05,
Solano
and
Boulevard,
based
on
feedback
given
by
participants
from
the
layout
of
the
Ottawa
Business
Park
was.
The
sign
in
question
will
be
located
on
the
city's
right
of
way
and
the
sign
on
Sabo's
bylaw
number
20
2003,
a
520
section.
I
Therefore,
a
build
result.
That
committee
will
the
application
of
section
further
by
law
to
allow
jeers
youth
nuts
signed
to
be
located
at
the
entrance
of
the
23:05
700
boulevard,
provided
that
a
cheer
youth
met
and
turned
to
an
agreement
that
all
the
cause
for
the
fabrication,
installation,
ongoing
maintenance
and
eventual
remover
bacio
and
be
cheery.
I
You've
met
entering
to
agreement
that
a
fee
of
$75
is
to
be
paid
every
five
years
to
the
city,
to
Allah
the
sign
to
remain
within
the
city's
highway
and
to
stop
redirected
to
fabricate
and
install
the
agreed-upon
signage
template
at
Chelsea
at
that
facility.
So
mr.
chair,
she
approached
us
because
they
were
having
some
problems
with
identifying
this
location
within
the
Ottawa
Business
Park.
They
originally
asked
for.
I
I
This
week,
in
terms
of
being
one
of
the
best
employers
in
Canada,
did
send
a
message
basically
saying
this
Vista
lots
of
stigma
around
mental
health,
mental
illness
and
it
can
be
really
tough
for
a
team
with
depression
or
anxiety
to
scrape
the
courage
and
walk
into
a
mental
health
program
had
unclear,
welcoming
signage.
Making
it
not
easy
to
find
is
a
small
but
tangible
way.
The
city
can
be
a
part
of
our
collective
response
to
these
youth.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
support.
I
appreciate
it
I.
B
Any
other
business,
gentlemen,
okay
next
meeting
is
April
6
2016
and
again
it
promises
to
be
a
lengthy
one
and
even
longer
now
with
councilor
tuna
Schenker's
assistance.
But
that's
okay,
we'll
see
you
all,
then.
Hopefully
it
will
not
be
snowing
that
day
or
raining
or
freezing
rain
or
freezing
drizzle
or
any
of
those
options.
We'll
just
be
nice
and
bright
and
sunny.