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Transportation Committee - 4 May 2022
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Okay,
wonderful,
so
on
that
we
will
hold
the
item.
So
this
is
the
only
item,
I'll
just
double
check
on
the
agenda
and
I
do
believe,
let's
go
through
this
real
quickly
here,
yep,
so
that
so
I
guess
we're
on
item
number
two,
so
the
first
up
would
be
but
it'd
be
ray.
One
railing.
You
have
five
minutes.
C
In
order
to
do
this,
we
must
update
the
bylaws
and
policies
that
do
not
align
with
or
encourage
these
goals
being
met.
Guidance
on
the
right
of
way
would
mitigate
climate
change,
and
an
update
to
the
bilo
would
be
a
small
step
toward
the
city,
taking
concrete
actions
towards
its
climate
change,
master
plan
goals.
C
Canada-Wide.
There's
a
movement
to
stop
using
turf
grass
on
right-of-way
areas
and
to
replace
it
with
locally
appropriate
plants
and
gardens.
Municipalities
such
as
mississauga
toronto,
guelph,
vancouver,
kitchenette
and
halifax
have
already
adopted
active
boulevard
garden
programs
with
great
success.
This
has
been
done
before
and
we're
asking
that
otto
will
follow
suit.
C
These
cities
offer
recommended
plant
lists
and
have
regulations
around
plant
heights
to
preserve
sight
lines
and
address
safety
issues.
This
type
of
garden
involves
soft
scaping,
only
meaning
just
plants,
residential
gardening
on
boulevards
would
create
habitat
and
provide
food
sources
for
pollinators
at
at-risk,
bumblebees,
butterflies
and
songbirds,
thus
protecting
biodiversity.
C
C
C
They
reduce
dependence
on
fossil
fuels,
used
for
maintaining
turf
grass
with
gas-powered
mowers
and
trimmers,
and
reduce
the
need
for
fertilisers
with
their
high
carbon
footprint.
They
increase
equity
to
access,
green
space
and
gardening.
For
some
of
our
under-resourced
communities
in
ottawa,
they
enhance
community
ties
and
beautify
our
neighborhoods.
C
Using
the
boulevard
and
right-of-way
areas
for
gardens
is
a
very
simple
and
effective
change
to
allow
in
terms
of
climate
change
mitigation
right
now,
city
resources
are
being
used
inefficiently,
as
bylaw
officers
must
visit
any
such
garden,
which
has
received
even
one
complaint.
It's
simply
a
waste
of
city
money
and
time,
allowing
these
gardens
would
be
an
opportunity
for
education
and
also
to
create
clarity
and
consistency
for
residents
and
organizations
who
wish
to
take
steps
to
address
the
urgent
climate
and
biodiversity
crisis
and
to
contribute
to
the
beautification
and
naturalization
of
ottawa.
C
A
E
I've
been
suggesting
that
to
city
staff
for
a
number
of
years
and
sent
them
some
photographs
from
oakville
and
other
places
that
have
beautiful
sponsored
boulevards
by
different
companies
that
operate
in
those
municipalities
that
take
on
the
boulevard
planting
and
it
really
beautifies
the
city,
and
I
think,
as
you
rightly
point
out,
it's
great
for
the
environment.
So
I
would
love
to
see
a
program
like
that
get
underway
in
ottawa.
E
I
think
the
more
problematic
one
just
in
my
very
limited
experience
is
the
right-of-way
in
front
of
people's
homes,
and
I
I
agree
with
you,
and
I
agree
with
the
point
that
allowing
residents
to
to
landscape
and
beautify
those
areas
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
It
also,
I
found
out
conflicts
with
our
winter
operations
and
I
had
one
one
family
that
had
a
lot
of
their
very
expensive
landscape
taken
out
by
a
plow.
C
Well,
the
city
itself
actually
offers
free
trees
to
feed
for
to
people
to
plant
on
these
city-owned
areas.
So
the
city
itself
is
already
there's
a
program
called.
I
can't
remember
the
name
of
it,
something
for
trees,
but
people
are
already
getting
city
trees
planted
in
these
right
away
areas
at
the
front
of
their
gardens
and
what
we're
suggesting
is,
is
you
know
if
you
have
a
list
of
recommended
plants,
for
example,
perennials,
there's
not
going
to
be
any
interference
with
the
plow
like
in
winter.
C
These
things
just
die
down,
we're
not
suggesting
rocks
or
anything
like
there
would
be
a
regulated
list
of
of
approved
plants
that
would
simply
not
interfere
with
winter
operations.
I
mean
I
have
a.
I
have
a
garden
that
goes
right
down
to
my
I'm
on
a
laneway
in
new
edinburgh.
My
garden
goes
right
down
to
the
the
road
because
we
have
no
curb.
We
have
no
sidewalk,
but
this
the
plow.
C
That
would
be
part
of
the
education
that
this
is
city
land
and
that,
if
there's
you
know,
if
there's
a
need
to
dig
or
so
on
you,
you
really
should
just
be
prepared
for
that.
So
I
think
this
is
working
in
other
municipalities
like
mississauga,
and
so
on
that
also
have
a
lot
of
snow
and
guelph
in
guelph.
They
even
the
city
offers
garden
plans
like
suggested
plans
for
the
boulevards
in
the
right-of-way.
So
I
think
we
can.
C
E
E
I
agree
with
you,
I'm
willing
to
support
this
and
take
a
look
at
it,
but
I
do
think
that
it's
probably
more
problematic
for
this
city,
because
people
will
they
will
put
rock
gardens
and
everything
else
and
they'll
hardscape
and
then
they're
they
will
make
a
claim
against
the
city.
So
I
I'd
like
to
hear
what
the
city
staff
have
to
say.
Mr
chair,
should
we
ask
them
to
do
that
now
or
do
you
want
to
wait
till
after
questions
to
the
delegation
yeah.
A
F
Thank
you,
chair
and
I'd
really
like
to
thank
ray
wind
for
her
advocacy,
actually
bringing
this
to
to
my
office
and
working
with
our
staff,
so
that
we
could
work
with
city
staff
and
also
councillor
dude
has
to
really
see
this
motion
come
to
fruition.
So
I
really
want
to
thank
you
for
the
advocacy
and
I
was
just
curious.
You
did
describe
the
challenges
around
city
resources
being
allocated,
especially
by
law
enforcement
around
these
gardens.
F
I
know
you
know
one
of
my
first
forays
into
this
issue
did
occur
in
new
edinburgh,
and
this
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
we're
we're.
Having
this
conversation,
I'm
just
wondering
if
you
could
describe
you
know
we
don't
want
to
out
the
neighbor
or
the
property
or
his
name,
but
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
describe
the
challenge
that
a
certain
new
edinburgh
resident
had
which
really
set
off
this.
This
conversation.
C
Well,
we,
yes,
we
have
a
neighbor.
Well,
there
are
many
such
boulevard
gardens
already
in
new
edinburgh
ezra
all
over
the
city,
including
down
the
middle
of
sussex,
like
this
is
something
that's
being
done
on
a
big
scale,
but
we
had
a
neighbor
with
it
with
a
small
boulevard
garden
with
like
literally
two
plants
in
it,
and
someone
was
going
around
making
complaints
against
the
boulevard
gardens.
C
Then
it
triggers
a
process
where
the
bylaw
officer
has
to
come
to
the
house
and
issue
issue
a
fine,
because
technically
it's
illegal
and
you
know,
and
just
set
up
a
whole
waste
of
time
and
then
the
the
resident
did
not
want
to
pull
out
his
garden
because
he
couldn't
see
what
damage
it
was
doing.
So
he
had
to
get
in
touch
with
councillor
king
and
councillor
king
visited,
and
you
know
all
this
is
just
taking
up.
C
You
know
I
think
councillor
king
got
a
stay
of
the
ticket
and
he
was
allowed
to
keep
his
garden,
but
the
amount
of
time
and
energy
and
effort
and
waste
of
city
resources,
something
that's
very
innocuous
again.
There's
no
hardscaping
involved
and,
quite
frankly,
I'd
be
happy.
If
people
were
ticketed
for
hardscaping,
that's
not
what
we're
we're
not
advocating
for
that.
C
So
you
know
there
was
a
lot
there's
a
lot
of
feeling
in
the
community
about
this,
because
it
is
one
of
the
things
that
makes
new
edinburgh
a
lovely
place
to
live,
and
it
just
seems
wholly
unfair
that
one
complaint
can
trigger
this.
Whereas
I
see
people
with
astroturf
on
their
city,
land
plastic,
killing
the
soil
completely
allowed.
C
You
know,
educate
people
and
and
make
this
a
norm
that
where
people
understand
what
the
rules
are
and
then
I
think
we
can
just
have
a
more
efficient
use
of
city
resources,
because
it
really
and
also
that
you
know,
there's
people
who
have
boulevard
gardens
that
may
not
have
the
know-how
to
contact
the
councillor
and
then
they're
being
fined,
and
I
think
you
know
it
really
is
an
equity
issue
as
well.
Great
thank.
F
A
And
thank
you
for
the
delegation
and
you
probably
noticed
all
the
counselors
heads
doing
this,
because
speeding
is
the
number
number
one
complaint
in
offices
and
the
number
two
is
neighbor
wars.
I
think
I'll
start
a
tlc,
a
show
about
that
for
councillors,
neighbor
wars,
but
anyway,
I'll
have
to
say
thank
you
for
your
delegation
today.
Next
up
and
I'm
getting
some
coaching
from
one
of
my
colleagues
is
it
is
it
briony?
Am
I
pronouncing
that
correct.
A
D
Perfect,
thank
you
very
much
so
hello,
everyone,
my
name
is
bryony
wharf
and
I'm
representing
a
local
environmental
group
in
ottawa
called
ottawa
south
ecoaction
network.
We
work
with
neighbours
in
riverward,
altivista,
ward
and
gloucester,
southgate
ward,
to
improve
our
local
environment
and
make
our
city
more.
Sustainable.
D
Municipal
councils
have
a
huge
role
to
play
in
mitigating
the
effects
of
climate
change
and
improving
the
equity
of
access
to
green
spaces,
and
because
of
this,
we
fully
support
this
motion
by
councillor
dudas
to
allow
planting
on
the
front
yard
and
boulevard
portions
of
the
city's
right
of
way.
This
motion
could
be
a
very
simple
but
impactful
step
towards
making
our
city
more
resilient
to
the
effects
of
climate
change.
D
As
the
previous
delegate,
raymond
mentioned,
ottawa
has
bold
targets
in
order
to
meet
our
municipal
climate
change
objectives,
as
well
as
its
own
climate
change
master
plan
and
allowing
residents
to
create
gardens
on
the
boulevards
adjacent
to
their
homes
and
the
entirety
of
their
front
yards
is
an
easy
and
effective
way
to
get
closer
to
achieving
those
goals.
As
mentioned
by
rayrin,
cities
across
canada
are
utilizing
their
public
green
spaces
and
having
positive
results.
D
On
that
city's
right
of
way,
the
city
will
be
taking
clear
action
on
all
of
these
issues
and
will
be
providing
its
own
residents
tangible
actions
that
they
can
take
to
be
part
of
climate
solutions,
which
would
not
only
empower
citizens
and
help
combat
climate
anxiety,
but
also
reduce
the
work
that
the
city
would
need
to
do.
The
people
of
ottawa
want
to
be
part
of
this
change
happening
across
the
nation,
and
this
opportunity
will
allow
us
to
do
that.
D
My
group
is
fully
aware
of
the
climate
biodiversity
crisis
we
are
in
and
we
received
funding
from
the
city
of
ottawa
itself
to
run
a
program
helping
residents
in
ottawa
south
to
create
pollinator
patches
in
their
yards.
We
would
be
very
excited
to
be
able
to
say
in
our
bylaw
presentation
to
the
participants
of
the
program
that
the
green
space
at
the
front
of
their
property
is
now
available
for
planting
for
pollinators
and
when
we
imagine
the
thought
of
these
long
connected
pollinator
corridors
that
could
result
from
this
motion.
We
are
filled
with
hope.
D
Some
communities
do
not
have
much
green
space
other
than
boulevards,
and
so
the
planting
of
gardens
could
be
a
step
towards
improving
current
and
inequitable
access
to
green
space
in
our
city.
During
the
isolation
of
cobit,
19
boulevards
were
my
main
source
of
green
space,
and
I
know
my
mental
health
would
have
been
greatly
impacted
by
the
sight
of
colorful
flowers,
pollinators
and
a
sense
of
community
and
pride
in
my
neighborhood
from
boulevard
gardening.
D
The
use
of
soft
scaping
in
the
city's
right-of-way
can
be
easily
managed
to
ensure
that
the
safety
issues
are
addressed
and
the
city
maintenance
can
be
performed
without
hindrance.
The
city
already
knows
how
to
inform
participants
of
safety
and
maintenance
issues
on
the
right-of-way,
via
their
adopt-a-road
and
beautification
program
and
as
well.
There
are
many
great
examples
of
bylaws
in
ontario
cities
that
the
city
could
reference,
so
we're
confident
in
the
city's
ability
to
create
a
well-worded
bylaw
to
educate
residents
on
soft
scaping
so
as
to
avoid
hazards
and
issues.
D
This
bylaw
amendment
has
a
great
potential
to
help
with
the
education
of
naturalization,
by
focusing
on
native
plants
that
are
salt
and
drought
resilient
and,
as
mentioned
by
rayon,
improve
water
retention,
provide
carbon
sequestration,
reduce
the
need
of
maintenance
by
fossil
fuel
machines
and
create
habitats,
food
sources
and
places
for
pollinators
to
raise
their
young.
When
ocean
thinks
of
the
immediate
and
long
lasting
impacts,
the
simple
change
could
make,
especially
as
the
city
works
towards
making
ottawa
more
walkable.
We
are
excited
and
hopeful.
D
A
Terrific
delegation,
thank
you
very
much
for
coming
out
today.
I
see
no
questions.
Thank
you
again
for
coming
out
and
at
this
point
we'll
turn
the
floor
over
to
questions
to
staff
on
the
board.
Oh,
we
got
a
few.
Oh
just
hopping
around
there.
First
off
it's
councillor,
king,
then
dean's
then
kavanaugh.
F
Thank
you
chair,
and
I
was
just
wondering
if
staff
could
briefly
confirm
that
there
is
a
current
informal
process
to
evaluate
requests
and
support
residents
who
are
interested
in
right-of-way,
naturalization
and
beautification.
Obviously
we
have
a
motion
here
before
this
committee
that
would
deal
with
more
of
a
long-term
review
and
analysis
for
a
substantive
policy,
but
I'm
just
wondering
in
the
interim
is
there
an
informal
process
to
evaluate
such
requests?.
G
Good
morning
chairs
curry,
here
from
right
away:
yes,
counselor.
There
are
a
variety
of
ways
that
these
come
in
right
now,
some
on
our
city
lands,
our
city
parks,
typically
done
through
our
real
estate
office
and
some
through
through
my
office,
in
the
right
of
way
for
for
right-of-way
lands
coming
out
of
the
conversation
that
we've
we've
heard,
particularly
the
last
few
months
related
to
this.
G
F
I
was
also
wondering,
since
the
motion
stipulates,
that
staff
will
return
this
report
in
2023,
given
that
a
few
months
can
make
a
large
difference
when
it
comes
to
gardening
activities.
Are
staff
able
to
aim
for
q1
or
early
q2
next
year
to
support
a
full
growing
season
in
terms
of
seeing
that
this
might
reduce
the
necessary
steps
on
counselors
offices,
residents
and
staff
throughout
the
spring
and
summer.
G
So
chair,
as
staff's
intention,
is
to
begin
work
on
this
review.
Should
it
be
the
will
of
council
later
this
year
in
time
to
bring
it
forward
to
the
new
council
early
in
2023,
of
course,
when
it's
brought
forward
in
2023,
we'll
be
subject
to
the
legislative
agenda
and
the
priorities
of
the
new
council.
But
certainly
it's
understood
the
interest
of
having
clarity,
greater
clarity
ahead
of
next
year's
growing.
F
E
Yeah,
thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
court
for
being
here
I
mean,
I
think
this
is
a
really
good
idea
of
thought.
It's
really
good
idea
for
a
long
time,
but
I
know
that
the
city
has
looked
at
this
in
the
past
and
there
are
some
challenges,
both
legal.
I
think
safety
challenges
when
it
comes
to
planting
some
boulevards
on.
You
know
busy
roadways
like
imagine,
hunt
club
road.
How
do
you
protect
the
safety
of
people
that
might
be
doing
planting
in
that
boulevard?
How
do
you
water?
G
Counselor
I'll
provide
an
answer
to
the
best
of
my
abilities,
and
I
have
colleagues
from
my.
I
have
colleagues
online
here
from
public
works.
That
may
wish
to
add
further
to
my
answer.
So,
certainly
in
your
question
and
in
your
comments
to
the
first
delegation,
you
raise
a
lot
of
good
points.
There
are
a
lot
of
considerations
that
will
go
in
developing
a
formal
program
for
the
city
of
ottawa.
G
Already
I
can
advise
the
last
few
weeks
as
we've
reviewed
the
motion
brought
forward
by
councillor
dudas
we've
had
staff
from
our
natural
systems
group,
our
bylaw
group,
our
parks,
maintenance
and
forestry
right
away.
My
group
real
estate
legal,
it
spans
across
the
organization,
roads
and
parking
services.
G
Of
course,
what's
clear
is
the
city's
current
regime
is
out
of
alignment
with
our
environmental
goals,
the
environmental
goals
that
council
has
set
for
biodiversity
for
climate
change,
storm
water
management
for
place
making,
so
our
two
bylaws,
our
property
standards
by
law
and
our
use
in
care
of
roads
by
law
are
very
conflicting
to
our
other
other
council-approved
environmental
goals.
So
what
we'll
be
spending
time
on
is
looking
at
how
we
can
resolve
those
conflicts?
G
What
bylaw
changes
would
need
to
be
made
what
resources
would
be
required
and
then
certainly
the
operational
considerations,
so
those
for
our
roads
and
parking
are
parks,
maintenance
and
forestry
staff,
but
also
access
to
fire
hydrants
in
the
right-of-way
sight
lines,
traffic,
invasive
species
etc.
So
a
holistic
review
will
be
done,
but
that
being
said,
as
the
delegations
indicated,
there's
some
good
precedent
in
ontario
that
we
hope
to
to
use
as
as
a
template
for
ottawa.
A
Yeah
great
questions
for
sure,
and
forgive
me
I
did
go.
I
allowed
counselor
king,
even
though
he's
not
on
committee,
but
since
since
this
is
a
very
small
item,
I'm
just
going
to
proceed
with
whoever
had
their
hands
up
first,
unless
many
members
of
the
committee
object
to
that,
I
don't
think
so.
We
like
you
teresa
so
counselor
cavanaugh,.
H
Thank
you
very
much
yeah.
No,
I'm
very
interested
in
this
because
I've
always
had
people
inquire
about
right-of-ways,
but
I've
also.
I
I'm
gonna
ask
the
hard
questions
too,
because
I
understand
that
there's
a
perspective
from
the
city,
and
that
is
in
terms
of
when
people
take
these
on
and
then
they
you
know,
move
on
or
abandon,
or
there
is
no
one
to
look
after
it.
So
do
they
sign
a
contract
or
they
make
a
commitment
yearly
when
they
take
something
on
because
it's
not
just
the
first
year.
H
G
So
chair,
currently
we
undertake
the
regulation
of
of
the
community's
use
or
residents
use
of
their
right-of-way
through
agreements
through
permits,
with
a
range
of
options
leading
up
to
removal
of
those
assets
or
those
those
undertakings
in
the
right
of
way.
Should
they
not
be
maintained,
you
can
think
of
arrangements
that
we
have
with
bias
and
with
community
groups
in
your
awards
that
we've
undertaken
over
the
past
to
undertake
that
type
of
regulation.
So
those
will
be
the
the.
G
If
there's
a
consideration
of
looking
at
how
to
do
this
on
a
citywide
scale.
Those
will
be
the
considerations
that
we
undertake
over
the
next
year
in
terms
of
what
tools
we
use
to
regulate
versus
what
is
voluntary
in
terms
of
public
education,
we
can
provide
residents
to
just
go
ahead
and
do
things
and
be
a
good
neighbor,
be
a
good
resident,
be
a
good
property
owner
versus
what
actually
needs
to
be
papered
up
so
that'll
be
part
of
the
analysis.
H
G
G
H
Yeah,
I
I've
approached
them
about
it,
so
I
think
they
will
have
an
answer,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
hear
because
sometimes
there's
a
temptation
when
it's
on
somebody
else's
right
of
way
to
go
there
and
then
there's
there's
conflicts.
So
I
would
like
to
to
have
an
I
think.
Everybody
needs
that
answer
actually,
but
it
does
happen.
So
I
just
wanted
to
find
out
what
what
the
ruling
is
on
that.
I
don't
know
if
any,
but
nobody's
here
from
legal.
I
guess
here
today,
no.
A
No
counselor
kavanagh,
I'm
sure,
they'll,
take
that
back
and
as
counselors.
I
think
we
all
want
to
know
people
get
upset
when
people
park
in
front
of
each
other's
houses
on
public
roadways.
You
can
only
imagine
if
suddenly
you're
planting
all
these
different
flowers
in
front
of
somebody
else's
home,
so
terrific
question
and
I'm
sure
they'll
get
back
to
you.
Of
course,.
H
I
G
G
So
if
you
have
a
property
and
a
sidewalk
and
a
little
strip
of
grass
and
then
the
road
that
is
also
referred
to
the
boulevard,
so
you
raise
I,
I
know
where
you're
headed
with
your
line
of
questioning
here,
you
raise
very
good
questions
about
public
safety
for
folks
that
may
wish
to
attend
to
the
to
the
boulevard,
and
that
will
certainly
be
something
that
we
consider
through.
This
review
is
what
can
be
permitted,
recognizing
that
these
are
actively
used
roads.
I
Okay,
and
so
thank
you
for
that
court.
So
in
your
recommendations,
you
could
perhaps
provide
some
clear
language
on
that,
so
that,
if
we're
not
encouraging
people
to
go
out
into
the
middle
of
the
road
that
we
say
that
that
area
is
exempt
from
this,
because
the
right
of
way,
the
the
piece
in
the
front
yard
makes
total
sense
what
they
want
to
do.
G
Councilor
good
good
question,
I
think,
as
I
as
I
indicated
earlier,
the
the
regime
around
around
these
gardens
or
these.
These
beautification
projects
is
a
bit
unclear
and
it
depends
whether
you're
a
group
or
a
resident
is
wanting
to
use
the
property
right
in
front
of
their
house
as
counselor
kavanaugh
indicated,
or
perhaps
somebody
else's
what
they
what
they
see
as
a
city
property
from
someone
else's
house.
Is
it
a
city
park?
Is
it?
G
Is
it
city,
owned
lands
or
not
a
park,
and
there
are
different
ways
that
residents
come
in
whether
this
republic
works,
whether
it's
through
right-of-way,
whether
it's
through
our
real
estate
group?
So
right
now
we're
what
and
we've
got,
of
course,
the
houston
care
bylaw
that
that
really,
quite
frankly,
prevents
anyone
on
a
voluntary
basis
from
from
landscaping
their
the
right-of-way
in
front
of
their
house.
So
we've
got
conflicting
bylaws
and
we've
got
conflicting
goals
in
some
of
our
in
some
of
our
documents.
G
Quite
frankly,
our
bylaws
have
not
kept
up
with
council's
goals
with
respect
to
the
environment
as
an
unseen
in
the
recent
official
plan
and
climate
change
plan.
So
this
will
be
really
reconciling
all
of
all
of
that
providing
business
processes
and
some
clarity
for
the
public
and
then
and
for
our
enforcement
folks
and
for
operational
folks
and
getting
to
the
bottom
on
some
of
those.
Some
of
those
issues
that
you've
raised
in
terms
of
public
safety,
those
of
councillor
kavanaugh,
doing
something
in
front
of
someone
else's
property.
G
I
G
So,
council
I
haven't,
haven't
we
haven't
completed
the
review
yet,
but
certainly
the
precedent
that
we
have
in
our
existing
agreements
is
that,
where
a
community
group
or
resident
can't
honor
the
agreement
signed
with
the
city
of
ottawa.
Yes,
remediation
is
done
by
the
city
and
it
is
built
back
to
the
signatory,
whether
it's
on
the
tax
roll
or
through
refined.
Quite
frankly.
So
we'll
certainly
look
at
at
the
levers
that
we
have
for
non-compliance
and
minimize
the
impact
on
the
taxpayer.
To
use
your
words.
I
J
G
So,
council
you're
raising
very
good
observations,
and
certainly
part
of
this
will
be
guidelines
in
terms
of
what
is
permitted
to
be
planted.
Types
of
species
height
for
sight
lines
and
clarity
over
over
maintenance
obligations.
And
you
know
your
point
about
utilities
is
a
sound
one
and
that
obviously,
this
the
city
has
statutory
obligations
beyond
the
city
of
ottawa
to
our
utilities
to
have
access
both
in
our
emergency
basis
and
on
a
maintenance
basis
for
our
right
of
ways.
G
So
we
certainly
will
be
underlining
in
whatever
amendments
that
we
make
that
that
that
obligation
is
paramount,
that
if
there's
a
need
to
bring
in
a
gas
line
or
a
data
line
or
a
rebuilding
project,
as
you
mentioned,
with
bell
et
cetera,
that
that
there
will
be
access
and
that
it
won't
be
at
the
cost
of
the
city
of
ottawa.
I'm
jumping.
I
Okay,
whatever
you
bring
back,
I'm
just
hoping
that
you,
you
have
language
in
there
regarding
this,
so
we
all
have
a
good,
clear
understanding.
I'm
sorry!
I
am
going
to
ask
you
one
more
one
of
the
delegations
mentioned
that
the
city
now
has
a
tree
program
for
trees
to
be
planted
in
the
right
of
way.
How
does
that
work
with
the
utility
corridors.
G
G
Certainly
they
can
speak
to
the
city
tree
planting
program,
much
more,
I
believe
than
I
can,
but
the
the
short
answer,
I'll
give
you
from
the
right
of
way
perspective
is
that
we
always
look
for
conflicts.
We
do
locates
and
we
ensure
that
there
are
where,
where
a
city
tree
is
planted,
does
not
conflict
with
any
infrastructure,
both
planned
like
a
sidewalk
or
a
cycling
lane
or
or
through
our
jew
information
center,
that
we
have
a
good
understanding
of
what's
underground
and
so
that
those
roots
will
eventually
not
conflict
with.
What's
installed.
I
K
So
I
think
chair
you're,
referring
to
the
treason,
trust
program,
and
there
is
a
number
of
criteria
that
is
followed
regarding
that
planting
and
it
relates
to.
Is
there
enough
space?
Are
there
other
trees
or
other
obstacles
that
at
a
minimum
would
have
to
be
seven
meters
away?
Are
there
overhead
or
underground
utilities?
In
the
way,
does
the
soil
quality
appear
to
be
acceptable
for
tree
growth?
Are
there
anything
else?
Is
there
any
other
conflicting
issues?
I
L
L
So
I
I
wonder
if
your
team
is
considering
those
those
environments
and
and
how,
how
best
to
notify
residents
like,
maybe
maybe
creating
a
gener
generic
notice
on
our
our
website.
The
city's
website
relating
to
you
know
garden
at
your
own
risk
and
when
we
come
we're
not
we're
not
we're,
certainly
not
losing
the
intent
of
creating
those
much
needed
sidewalk
spaces.
So
that's
one.
G
Should
there
be
an
infrastructure
project
that
comes
along
that
dislodges
that
that
project,
but
also
that
there's
reasonable
notice
so
that
certainly
a
resident
or
community
group
doesn't
undertake
significant
investments
or
have
pride
of
what
they've
done
and
then
six
months,
one
year
later,
the
city
comes
in
unless
you
know,
unless
it's
not
unplanned,
of
course,
and
removes
removes
all
that
hard
work
for
projects.
So
that
will
be
something
that
we
consider
as
part
of
this
review.
L
Okay
as
yeah,
because
I
I
mean
we've
seen
council
individual
council,
we're
all
to
blame
of
we'll
cut.
We
come
to
council
and
and
amend
some
of
our
bylaws
when
we
reduce
treats
particularly
to
driveways
and
stuff
and
curb
cuts
and
which
adds
to
the
kind
of
the
local
challenges
when
people
invest
in
their
front
yard.
That's
great!
When
we
come
along
as
a
city,
sometimes
the
goals
are
necessarily
aligned.
L
So
it's
difficult,
I
thought
counselor
hughley's
point
around
utilities
was
an
interesting
one
and
we
haven't
really
had
an
in-depth
conversation
at
the
city
relating
to
the
locates
and
locations
of
utilities.
I,
as
you
you're
aware,
I've
come
across
a
number
of
situations
where
utility
equipment
has
made
its
way
into
parks
and
impeded
our
ability
in
parks
and
at
the
same
with
hydro
poles,
on
private
property
or
in
that
space.
So
are
there
are.
L
Is
there
an
appetite,
or
is
there
the
space
through
the
review,
to
look
at
what
are
the
utility
implications
and
if,
if
we
can
add
some
further
guidelines
to
where,
where
utility
corridors
should
rest,
because
I
think
it's
it's
that
weird
spot,
often
where
either
the
sidewalks
impacted
or
the
front
yard
of
the
resident.
And
then
we
don't
necessarily
have
all
the
authorities
or
tools
once
a
utility
service
is
in
place.
J
Through
the
chair
sorry
presentable
feedback
there
counselor,
certainly
as
as
cord
has
mentioned
in
response
to
counselor
hubley's
question.
We
will
be
looking
at
this
as
part
of
the
review
we'll
be
looking
at
the
conflict.
Potentials
we'll
be
looking
at
the
expectations
that
will
be
placed
in
relation
to
making
sure
that
if
there
is
beautification
done
it's
with
a
full
recognition
of
what
is
there
currently
and
making
sure
that
all
potential
conflicts
are
flushed
out.
L
Okay,
okay
and
then
maybe
on
a
final
question,
we've
seen
different
legal
environments
for
you
know
laneways.
I
remember
I
go
back
to
peter
clark
days
when
some
of
us
were
around
and
peter
clark
was
really
interested
in
those
lane
ways,
because
there
are
a
lot
in
rideau,
rock,
cliff
and
and
some
laneways
around
fencing
and
some
people
built
structures
and
so
on,
and
it
got
really
complicated
very
quickly,
specifically
on
our
legal
authorities.
L
As
to
you
know,
if
that
structure
was
in
place
prior
to
a
particular
year,
then
there's
rights,
acquired
and
so
on
is
that
are
all
of
the
legal
environments
relating
to
ensuring
that
we
don't
lose
right
of
way
or
intentionally
lose
right-of-ways
unintentionally
lose
right-of-ways
as
part
of
the
review.
I
I
I
think
that
that
would
serve
future
councils
and
decisions.
Well,
if
that
legal
scan
is
completed.
J
Sure,
thank
you
counselor.
So
certainly,
we
already
have
in
place
the
council-approved
lanes
policy
that
speaks
to
to
all
the
matters
in
relation
to
encroachments
within
within
lanes
and
how
those
are
dealt
with,
and
it's
not
the
intent
of
this
review
to
to
change
any
of
that
or
make
any
recommendations,
and
certainly
through
this
review,
the
the
intent
wouldn't
necessarily
be
to
give
up
right
away
space,
but
in
instead
to
look
at
how
residents
can
can
beautify
within
that.
Given
the
city
maintains
the
maintains
the
right-of-way
ownership.
L
And
rob
I
I
I'm
just
going
to
clarify,
I
I
didn't
mean
to
open
the
can
of
worms
around
laneways.
That
was
not
my.
I
was
giving
a
an
example
of
that.
I
guess
my
I
would
love
to
see
through
this
a
scan
of
legal
implication
at
all
levels
right.
If,
if
someone
does
invest
on
what
we'll
call
our
front
yard
as
a
city,
then,
if
the
plow
comes
and
damages
are
we
are
we
responsible?
L
J
Well,
that's
a
that's
a
fair
point:
counselor
we'll
take
that
back
as
part
of
the
review,
and
certainly
as
court
has
mentioned
in
in
his
previous
responses.
Part
of
this
is
not
just
around
setting
a
policy
and
recommendations
to
council,
but
looking
at
what
the
educational
tools
and
the
guidelines
for
residents
would
be
as
part
of
this
overall
exercise.
L
Great
and
then
finally,
just
as
a
wrap-up
I'll
be
supporting
the
motion,
I
think
it's
great.
I
think
we
have
to
empower
residents
to
do
beautify
our
city
to
to
to
again
invest
in
our
collective
front
yards
and
but
I
do
think
it's
important
for
us
as
council
members
to
have
the
right
diligence
to
protect
to
protect
the
city
assets
for
the
greater
good
of
of
of
this
of
the
city's
network.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
guess
councillor
dudas
and
councillor
king
for
the
motion.
B
Cheerleader,
thank
you
very
much.
I'm
just
wondering
if
one
of
the
potential
outcomes
here
can
simply
be
direction
to
bylaw
officers.
We
twist
ourselves
around
oftentimes
with
these
bylaws
in
an
effort
to
solve
what
is,
should
be
a
fairly
common
sense
problem.
The
problem
with
a
lot
of
these
issues
is
that
you
know
we
we
don't
exercise
common
sense
residents,
don't
necessarily
exercise
common
sense,
and
so
we
go
down
these
paths
of
really
twisted
bylaw
reviews.
B
I
went
through
this
with
little
libraries
there's
a
number
of
little
libraries
that
are
on
the
city
right-of-way
way,
and
I
started
going
down
a
path
of.
Can
we
create
a
permit
system
for
little
libraries,
and
you
know
it
became
fairly
clear
that
that
was
going
to
create
a
lot
of
bureaucracy
and
rules
and
red
tape
and
bylaw
largely
has
chosen
now
simply
to
exercise
discretion
when
they
hear
a
complaint
about
a
a
little
library-
and
you
know
as
long
as
it's
structurally
sound,
they
leave
it
alone.
B
My
understanding
of
what
this
problem
is
is
that
people
have
front
lawns.
They
are
allowed
to
put
pollinator
gardens
on
them.
We
have
exceptions
in
the
the
property
standards
bylaw
that
allows
people
to
have
something
other
than
grass
and
it
sounds
like
they
want
to
continue.
You
know
pollinators,
pollinator-friendly
flowers
out
to
the
road.
Surely
this
issue
can
be
solved
simply
by
having
some
clear
direction
from
council
that
we
want
to
allow
that
do
we
need
to
create
an
entire
regime
around
this?
B
G
This
one
needs
a
program
as
light
to
the
touch
as
possible,
but
a
program
and
a
way
that
that
really
sets
the
sets
everyone
up
for
success
from
an
operational
point
of
view,
but
also
mitigates
neighbor
to
neighbor
issues.
Quite
frankly
that
I
don't
think
that
we
would
find
as
much
in
a
little
library
scenario.
If
I'm
going
to
use
that
analogy.
So
the
commitment
there
is
to
do
this
as
light
as
as
required,
but
to
do
it
thoroughly
to
set
it
up
for
success.
B
Okay,
I'm
not
sure
it's
the
it's
a
great
use
of
resources.
I
mean
this
if
somebody
wants
to
plant
a
bunch
of
bee
balm
at
the
edge
of
their
lawn
in
order
to
attract
bees,
and
somebody
complains
that
it's
not
grass,
it
seems
to
me
that
bylaws
should
be
saying.
We
took
a
look
at
it,
and
this
is
you
know,
we're
not
it's
not
in
the
public
interest
to
to
enforce
us,
but
I'll
be
very
interested
to
see
what
you
come
back
to
us
with.
A
E
A
Okay,
thank
you.
We
have
no
in-camera
items,
no
notice
of
motion.
We
do
have
two
enquiries.
The
first
one
is
actually
mine,
and
I
know
some
of
my
colleagues
have
questioned
and
scratched
their
heads.
So
this
inquiry
I've
worked
with
staff
they're
going
to
do
a
lot
of
background
research
and
if
I
can
get
chris
to
put
that
first
inquiry
up
just
give
him
a
second.
A
Thank
you
very
much
chris.
So
in
light
of
a
number
of
media
reports
shedding
light
on
the
red
light
cameras
and
automated
speeds
enforcement
fines
being
incurred
by
city
of
ottawa
staff
in
the
course
of
their
duties,
I
would
like
to
ask
legal
staff
and
fleet
services
to
one
contact
the
city
of
toronto
and
understand
how
they
attempt
to
recoup
the
cost
of
the
fines
from
their
employees
that
they
incur
tickets
and
the
levels
of
success.
Two
provide
an
overview
of
the
legislation
and
regulations,
including
collective
agreements,
impacts
that
govern
the
impact
on
this
process.
A
Three
provide
an
overview
of
the
disciplinary
approach
that
is
currently
in
place
at
the
city
of
ottawa
to
address
the
issue
and
four
offer
any
improvements
or
best
practices
identified
as
part
of
this
research
that
could
be
implemented
by
the
city
going
forward
to
enhance
safety
and
accountability.
So
I
look
forward
to
staff's
response
to
that,
one
for
sure,
and
we
have
a
second
inquiry
from
councillor
deans
and
if
I
can
get
chris
to
put
that
up
on
the
screen.
E
The
city's
infrastructure
is
aging
and
many
of
our
roads
are
in
a
state
of
disrepair.
While
there
is
limited
funding
for
road
resurfacing
each
year,
it
seems
that
our
local
roads
are
at
the
bottom
of
the
list.
However,
in
many
communities
and
in
particular
in
rural
areas,
the
local
road
also
serves
as
sidewalk
for
pedestrians.
In
these
cases,
when
the
local
road
is
deteriorating,
it
makes
it
very
challenging
for
residents
to
move
around
their
neighborhood,
especially
for
residents
with
mobility
issues
or
those
who
use
a
wheelchair.
E
A
A
If
you
live
in
the
east
end
of
the
city
or
plan
on
driving
to
the
east
end
of
the
city,
please
don't
they
have
to
close
the
highway
to
take
down
the
bus,
existing
bus
bridge
remaining
components
safely,
and
it
will
create
massive
traffic
impacts
in
my
community
on
ogilvy
road
and
council
dude
asses
on
innis
road
that
I'll
feed
the
east
end
of
the
city.
But
I
thought
it
was
very
important.
I've
been
watching.
My
eastern
colleagues
push
that
message
out
very
heavily,
but
we
also
have
to
remember.
A
There
are
people
from
the
west
that
we
do
allow
to
come
to
the
east
on
occasion
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
they're
well
informed
as
well.
So
that's
my
psa
of
the
day.
Our
next
meeting
will
take
place
monday,
the
30th
of
may
2022,
and
it's
adjournment.
So,
thank
you
very
much
everyone
for
coming
out
today,
thanks.