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From YouTube: PSF CommComm Meeting - 02/10/2021
Description
Agenda for this meeting:
https://github.com/Permissionless-Software-Foundation/community-committee/issues/5
The PSF Community Committee discusses the new voting mechanism for funding operations, using SLP token on the Bitcoin Cash blockchain.
A
B
A
It's
live
now.
You
can
never
tell
like
exactly
when
it
starts,
but
if
people
out
there
in
youtube
land
are
watching
this,
we
are
going
to
get
this
started
shortly.
I'm
doing
a
little
sending
out
the
link
a
little
bit
and
your
musical
interlude
yeah.
A
Cool
all
right,
we're
live
and
ready
to
go
david.
Why
don't
you
kick
us
off.
C
Hi
welcome
to
the
next
meeting
of
the
communications
committee.
I
guess
communications
community
committee.
C
And
I'll
just
introduce
myself
and
then
we
can
go
around
I'm
david
r
allen
and
I'm
helping
with
the
business
development
for
the
permission
software
foundation.
So
maybe
we
could
go
to
you
next.
Chris.
A
Sure
yeah
I'm
chris
troutner,
I'm
the
founder
of
the
permissionless
software
foundation.
I
also
manage
fullstack.cache
infrastructure
and
just
helping
to
to
grow
this
community
don.
You
want
to
introduce
yourself.
B
Yeah,
I'm
don
wonton,
a
cryptocurrency
enthusiast.
I
work
as
a
general
manager
at
ava
labs
and
I
have
the
first
bitcoin
cash
and
the
first
avalanche
tattoos
on
my
left
arm.
That's
what
I'm
known
for
so
all.
A
A
D
You
want
to
introduce
yourself.
My
name
is
jacob.
I
am
bulgarian
living
in
japan,
helping
with
bsh
javascript
libraries,
testing
and
development.
It's
all
for
me.
A
Right
on
that's
great
I'm
going
to
go
ahead.
This
is
going
to
be
a
pretty
short
meeting.
Let
me
go
ahead
and
share
my
screen.
A
Here's
the
agenda
for
today,
as
always,
it
can
be
found
on
github
at
the
permissionless
software
foundation
group
under
the
community
committee,
and
it's
we
filed
them
as
issues.
If
anybody
wants
to
see
them
the
agenda
for
today,
there's
only
this
one
item
so
to
introduce
this
there.
A
We
have
been
going
through
a
change
in
governance,
and
that's
what's
led
to
these
these
bi-weekly
meetings
that
we
have,
and
we
had
our
very
first
sort
of
private
meeting
for
vip
members,
which
are
people
who
have
enough
tokens
with
enough
merit
to
get
access
to
our
vip
telegram
room
and
the
idea
there
is
that
they're
they're
the.
A
Let
me
just
bring
up
the
blog
post
that
visualizes
our
governance,
because
a
big
part
of
this
reason
we
televise
these
and
record
them
on
youtube-
is
just
for
posterity,
so
that
we're
leaving
like
a
trail
of
like
why
we've
done
the
things
we've
done
and
and
how
it
you
know,
ultimately
leads
to
our
success
or
failure,
but
anyways
this
governance
change
that
we've
been
undergoing
puts
these
token
holders
at
the
top
of
the
sort
of
economic
pyramid,
because
any
new
projects
that
we
fund
will
come
at
the
cost
of
diluting
the
the
value
of
the
existing
token
holders.
A
So
what
we've
been
discussing
and
undergoing
is
this
very
first
funding
proposal
so
at
the
direction
of
the
vip
members?
What
we
agreed
on
in
that
meeting
and
what
we've
discussed
in
previous
comcom
meetings,
is
that
everybody
really
likes
the
token
airdrop
voting
system
that
we
had
before.
Where
you
you
can
you
can
be
anonymous
and
still
be
an
economic
actor
in
this
community,
and
you
get
those
those
airdrops
of
those
voting
tokens
and
use
those
to
vote,
and
it's
everything's
proportional
to
the
amount
of
merit
that
you
have
or
like.
A
Basically,
your
your
economic
skin
in
the
game,
and
so
this
is
the
very
first
proposal.
It's
intended
to
be
an
obvious
proposal.
It's
gonna
fund,
our
ongoing
infrastructure,
and
so
we
need
to
fund
this
otherwise,
like
we
have
to
completely
rethink
what
we're
doing
so.
It's
kind
of
an
aw
it's
intended
to
be
obvious,
and
it's
tended
for
everyone
to
just
kind
of
go
through
the
motions,
and
it's
also
setting
up
the
patterns
and
the
processes
that
we're
gonna
use
going
forward.
A
I
definitely
want
to
foster
discussion
around
these
ideas
and
this
process
in
the
telegram
channel.
Nothing's
locked
in
stone,
yet
everything's,
still
just
a
conversation,
but
to
introduce
this
sort
of
format
of
a
proposal
is
that
there
would
be
an
overview,
a
scope,
a
budget,
so
scope's
really
important.
It
sort
of
sets
like
this
is
where
it
starts,
and
this
is
where
it
ends,
and
this
is
what
we're
going
to
do
in
the
middle.
That's
the
scope,
and
so
in
this
pro
for
specific
proposal.
This
is
for
ongoing
infrastructure.
A
So
this
is
easy,
because
I
can
just
look
back
at
the
last
three
months
of
our
of
our
overhead
expenses
and
sort
of
forecast,
what
it's
going
to
be
and
then
ultimately
things
that
get
funded
will
get
funded
in
tokens
and
so
because
the
token
our
psf
tokens
hanging
out
around
25
cents
per
token
and
that
that
that
number
can
fluctuate
because
it's
it's
we're
actually
loosely
pegged
to
bch
and
then
bch
has
is
loosely
pegged
to
fiat.
A
So
it's
very
hard
to
estimate
expenses
in
u.s
dollars
based
on
these
tokens
who
that
can
fluctuate
wildly.
So
what
we
talked
about
in
our
vip
meeting
when
we
were
discussing
this
process,
was
it's
good
for
us
to
over
budget
to
overestimate
how
many
tokens
we're
going
to
need
everything
will
be
tracked.
Everything
will
be
transparent
and
at
the
conclusion
of
a
project,
anything
left
over
can
be
burned.
A
It's
it's
sort
of
a
problem.
If
we
don't
have
enough
tokens
to
meet
the
budgetary
needs,
it's
not
really
a
problem.
A
If
we
have
too
many
tokens,
we
can
always
burn
tokens
if
they're,
if
they're
unused
and
whereas,
like
in
a
government
situation
that
might
lead
to
sort
of
bloat
and
inefficiency,
because
we're
a
community
funded
by
the
community
working
for
the
community
tracked
by
the
community,
there's
just
a
lot
more
transparency
and
accountability
in
our
process
versus
like
what
you
would
think
of
in
the
terms
of
like
a
government
and
taxes
and
and
and
things
like
that,
so
anyways.
This
is.
A
This
proposal
is
really
just
an
attempt
to
take
like
here's,
our
expenses,
the
last
three
months.
Here's
a
forecasted
estimate
of
what
of
what
we
think
the
next
three
months
is
going
to
look
like
based
on
our
growth,
taking
the
current
price
of
the
token
here's,
an
estimate
of
what
that
cost
is
going
to
look
like
in
tokens,
and
then
we
talk
about
sort
of
adding
a
20
error
margin,
and
it
also
includes
two
hours
of
administrative
work
per
week:
I'm
actually
just
paying
bills
tracking
it
on
spreadsheets.
A
So
this
is
essentially
the
bear
minimum
infrastructure
we
need
in
order
to
maintain
operations.
That's
why
this
proposal
should
be
pretty
much.
You
know
obvious.
C
David,
you
had
a
question
yeah
just
I
wanted
to
point
out.
If
you
go
back
up
a
little
bit
the
the
total
for
that
line.
Item
forecasted
february,
20
21,
the
total
is
about
550
552
or
something
just
just
so
you
can
get
the
context
of
how
much
money
we're
talking
about.
A
Yeah,
it's
a
small
amount
of
money,
we're
really
small
and
and
we're
not
generating
a
lot
of
business
right
now.
So
that's
why
it's
good
to
get
these
processes
in
place
while
we're
still
small
we
can
afford
to
make
mistakes.
There's
not
large
sums
of
money
on
the
table,
thanks
so
anyways
good
to
go
back
to
like
the
general
over
our
structure
structure,
because
I'm
hoping
that
this
proposal
will
inspire
additional
proposals.
A
A
This
is
what
the
community
is
going
to
receive
at
the
end
of
you
know
when
everything's
done
and
everything's
paid
for
and
then
there's
a
voting
section,
and
so
what
we
talked
about
in
the
past
is
so
we'd
create
a
new
token
we'd
airdrop
it
based
on
merit,
and
I
can
go
into
details
on
the
merit
thing
if
people
want
but
there's
going
to
be
a
like
a
address
for
yes,
votes,
an
address
for
no
votes
and
then
an
address
for
abstaining.
So
really,
this
is
just
like.
A
If
you
don't
care-
and
you
just
want
to
get
rid
of
your
tokens-
like
nothing
happens
by
sending
the
tokens
here-
you
can
hold
on
your
tokens
if
you
want
to,
but
it's
just
it's
there
for
people
who
want
to
you
know,
get
rid
of
their
tokens
essentially,
at
the
these
tokens
won't
have
any
value
and
at
the
end
of
the
vote,
they
won't
be
useful
for
anything
and
the
votes
will
be
tallied
like
on
a
they'll,
have
like
a
specific
block,
height
cut
off
so
where
everything
will
be
tallied.
A
So
it
won't
matter
if
people
vote
after
that
block
height
those
votes
won't
be
counted,
but
that's
the
basic
idea
of
these
proposals.
It's
not
too
dissimilar
to
the
to
how
we've
done
it
in
the
past,
except
that
it's
mostly
timing,
is
the
main
difference.
A
We
we
used
to
do
these
and
we
did
a
whole
bunch
of
grants
all
at
once,
whereas
this
process
is
going
to
allow
us
to
propose
new
proposals
at
any
point
in
time
and
we
can
vote
on
them
at
any
point
in
time,
and-
and
this
is
more
in
line
with
this
healthy
bitcoin
blog
post,
where
I
introduced
this
idea
of
the
committees
and
how
like
anybody
in
the
community
can
can
submit
a
proposal
and
we
can
discuss
it
as
a
community
and
then
eventually
it
would.
A
Someone
on
one
of
the
the
technical
steering
committee
or
the
community
committee
would
would
sort
of
be
the
champion
a
liaison
for
it
and
would
be
ultimately
answerable
and
represent
the
the
economic
actors
in
the
vip
channel
and
then
sort
of,
and
then
ultimately
the
the
voting
tokens
you
get
would
be
proportional
to
your
merit,
so
your
skin
in
the
game,
so
it
so
you
get
to
have
you
know
more
say
on
what
gets
approved
or
not
is.
Does
anybody
have
any
questions?
How
and
just
in
general?
How
do
people
feel
about
this
process?
B
A
Yeah,
I'm
a
little
worried
just
with
like
fatigue
with,
if
we
have
a
bunch
of
proposals
going
and
that's
why
I
think
it's
it's
important
to
have
the
abstain,
one,
because
if
people
just
don't
care,
they
don't
have
to
be
engaged
right,
yeah.
So
that's
the
one
thing
that
I'm
a
little
worried
about.
I'm
glad
you
guys
feel
it's
simple
and
straightforward,
because
that's
definitely
what
we're
going
for.
D
A
Oh
yeah
good
question
so
yeah,
so
the
full
stack
dot
cash
is
where
the
the
I
sent
out
a
financial
report
to
all
the
the
vip
members
and
so
stoian.
I
want
to
get
you
in
on
that
group
and
because
you've
definitely
shown
merit
and
and
deserve
to
be
there.
So,
let's,
let's
work
on
that
offline
and
get
you
a
copy
of,
but
that's
that's
one
of
the
perks
of
being
a
vip
member.
A
Is
you
get
to
join
the
this
sort
of
private
meeting
once
a
month
where
we
check
in
and
and
then
I'll,
be
preparing
monthly
financial
reports
and
sending
them
out
to
the
vip
model.
D
I
I
didn't
want
to
ask
about
the
details,
just
so
the
the
meaning
of
the
column
right.
A
Right,
yes,
sorry,
yeah,
so
that
that
column
is
the
infrastructure,
that's
dedicated
just
for
servicing
the
client.
So
it's
pretty
important
because
that's
where
the
money
is
coming
from
to
fund
all
of
this,
and
so
the
bchn
column
is
for
infrastructure
dedicated
to
the
bitcoin
cash
network.
Bcha
is
the
infrastructure
dedicated
to
the
abc
chain?
Auxiliary
is
like
other
things
like
the
the
the
web,
apps
wallet.fullstack.cache
and
message.fullstack.cache,
and
then
there's
the
clients,
which
is
the
infrastructure
specifically
dedicated
to
clients.
A
I
I
should
really
put
this
in
the
article
and
then
the
google
drive
is
just
a
google
drive
that
we
used
for
for
storing
content
and
sharing
content
for
the
community.
A
These
numbers
are
going
are
in
the
process
of
changing
the
bchn
and
bcha
columns
are
going
to
get
smaller
and
the
client
column
is
going
to
get
bigger
in
terms
of
the
the
numbers
because
we're
bringing
on
more
clients,
we're
spinning
up
more
infrastructure
to
service
those
clients,
and
I'm
I'm
in
the
process
of
streamlining
all
of
our
infrastructure
for
for
both
bch
and
abc.
D
A
Yeah
that'll
probably
go
in
the
auxiliary
column,
because
it
will,
it
will
actually
service
all
the
blockchains
and
it
will
be
well
bcha.
I
plan
to
build
the
bridge
for
b,
bcha
h
and
a
b
c,
h
and
and
avalanche
so
have
be
able
to
transfer
token
across
all
three
blockchains
and
that'll,
be
mostly
a
web
app.
So
that
would
go
into
the
that
auxiliary
column,
yeah,
good,
good
question,
real
good
question,
and
you
know,
and
that
that
brings
up
a
an
important
thing
like.
A
A
And
I'm
also
thinking
like
a
two-week
window.
So
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
wanted
to
introduce
the
proposal
in
this
meeting
is
sort
of
to
set
up
a
timing
like
now
that
we've
had
a
chance
to
discuss
this.
We
could
probably
have
like
say
another
two
weeks
to
discuss
it
in
the
telegram
channel
among
the
community
and
in
the
vip
room
and
then
we'd
probably
like.
A
So
I
could
probably
do
the
token
drop
say
tomorrow
for
voting,
but
then
we'd
have
like
the
cut
off,
maybe
the
the
thursday
after
the
next
community
meeting,
and
so
that
would
give
us
two
opportunities
to
discuss
it
before
the
votes
are
actually
tallied.
A
B
A
Yeah
yeah
definitely
I
mean
because
we're
gonna
get
we're
gonna
get
the
people
who
feel
strongly
about
things,
but
don't
necessarily
have
any
economic
skin
in
the
game
and
then
we're
gonna
get
people
who
have
economic
stim
in
the
game
and
just
don't
really
care
don't
want
to
be
engaged
so
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna
get
you
know
we're
then
we're
gonna
get.
Those
are
the
extremes
and
so
it'll
be
interesting
to
see
how
that
plays
out
and
how
we
deal
with
that.
But
giving
giving
enough
time
to
have
a
discussion.
A
B
I'm
sorry,
okay,
quick
question.
This
would
be
my
first
token
airdrop
and
you
know
voting
process
question.
Let's
say
there
are
like
two
proposals
per
two
week
or
whatever
period.
Are
you
using
the
same
tokens
to
vote
either
or
on
either
projects,
or
is
it
like
a?
Are
you
getting
a
token
for
each
proposal?
Is
it
you
know?
Is
it
like
yes
or
no
for
each
one
or
is
it
you?
Have
this
amount
of
voting
power
distributed
among
various
projects.
A
One
voting
token
per
proposal
and
which
so
the
token
itself
would
change
from
proposal
to
proposal.
We'd
only
have
one
to
consider
at
a
time,
and-
and
so
it
would
be,
it
would
be
much
more
serial.
That
way
did
that.
A
In
in
this
specific
one,
because
that
is
a
good
question
in
this
specific
one
there's,
so
I
already
created
the
token
there's
a
link
here
where
you
can
see
it
on
the
block
explorer.
A
I
created
ten
thousand
of
the
tokens
and
there's
no
minting
baton,
so
yeah,
there's
ten
thousands
have
been
created,
no
minting
baton
and
I
called
it
psf
vote
001.
So
like
the
next
proposal
would
get.
002
would
be
a
different
token,
and
so
each
proposal
would
have
this
sort
of
basic
information,
so
it
would
get
air
dropped
and
let's
talk
about
the
merit,
because
right
now
things
are
pretty
skewed.
A
A
A
You
know
by
like
the
that's
in
like
a
war
chest
or
like,
in
the
token
liquidity
app
those
those
are
ignored
in
this
list.
So
this
is,
this
is
essentially
a
breakdown,
so
the
left
column
is
the
calculated
merit
for
the
address.
So
each
each
row
represents
like
a
bitcoin
cash
address
that
holds
tokens
the
psf
token
and
the
left
column
is
the
calculated
merit
for
that
address.
A
So
merit
is
the
token
quantity
times
the
token
a
the
agent
days,
and
so
this
second
or
third
column
is
the
actual
token
quantity,
and
so,
if
you
take
all
the
merit
for
all
these
addresses,
I
think
I
looked
at
the
top
50
addresses
yeah.
The
top
50
addresses
this
is
the
this
second
column
is
the
percentage
for
that
address
so
like
the
top
address
holds
35
of
all
merit
because
it
has
a
huge
quantity
of
tokens
and
it's
super
old.
A
It
hasn't
moved
and,
and
so
it
follows
this
power
law,
which
is
what
I
was
expecting.
So
as
these
sort
of
tokens
move
around
they'll
they'll
lose
merit
and
then,
as
we
grow
as
a
community,
more
people
will
buy
tokens
and
stake
them
both
to
participate
in
governance,
but
also
to
unlock
other
token.
A
Only
features
like
tour
list.cash
will
allow
people
to
advertise
a
web
page
by
staking
psf
tokens
and
they'll
be
doing
that,
not
because
they
care
about
our
community
or
because
they
want
to
join
governance,
but
just
because
they
want
to
advertise
their
web
page
and
so
those
I
I
don't
think
the
power
loss
shape
is
ever
going
to
change.
A
I
think
that's
just
inherent
in
in
everything
that
is
crypto
has
that
appearance
and
but
but
but
the
the
amplitude
should
come
down
and
the
the
tail
should
should
widen
and
so
we'll
get
a
more
and
that
that's
how
I
ended
up
settling
on
10
000
tokens.
So
if
I
did
the
airdrop
according
to
this
spreadsheet,
like
that,
first
address
would
get
you
know
35
of
the
of
the
voting
tokens,
and
so
I'm
a
little
worried
at
how
at
how
sort
of
top-heavy
these
numbers
are.
A
A
But
I
thought
I'd
share
this,
because
some
people
do
like
to
geek
out
on
the
numbers
and
yeah
they're
interesting
numbers.
This
is
all
just
data
pulled
from
the
blockchain.
B
A
Yeah
yeah
I'll
I'll,
add
it
to
the
bottom
of
that
proposal
here
at
the
end
here,
that'd
be
a
good
thing
to
I
might
as
well.
I
think
I
guess
we
might
as
well
just
for
the
sake
of
transparency,
like
add
that
spreadsheet,
essentially
to
every
proposal
just
so,
we
can
see
how
it
changes
over
time.
A
Yeah
well
that
actually,
all
this
information
was
in
the
the
financial
report
that
I
sent
out,
oh
yeah,
so
if
you
haven't
seen
that
don
it's
it's
in
message.fullstack.cache
at
that
address
that
you
gave
me.
A
But
yeah,
I
I
don't
think
I
had.
I
had
the
a
pie
chart
in
there
of
of
you
know
where
the
tokens
exist
and
how
many
are
in
the
open
market.
But
I
didn't
include
that
table
that
I
just
showed
that
of
merit
and
sort
of
voting
token
distribution,
so
yeah,
that
is
new
information.
A
Okay,
well,
that's
pretty
much
the
only
thing
that
was
on
the
agenda,
I'm
hoping
that
we
can.
I
I
I
if
there's
anything
anybody
has
anything
left
to
say
or
talk
about
like.
Let's
do
that,
but
also
we'll
continue
to
have
this
conversation
about
the
proposal
in
the
telegram
channels
over
the
next
couple
weeks,
and
then
I
do
like
that
idea.
A
I
think
I
think
I
might
do
the
airdrop
tomorrow
of
the
voting
token,
and
then
we
could
discuss
everything
at
the
next
com
com
meeting
in
two
weeks
and
then
tally
the
votes,
the
the
following
day.
I
think
that
that'd
be
enough
time
for
discussion,
but
also
like
keep
things
moving,
because
we
do
have
bills
to
pay.