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From YouTube: PSF TC Meeting 11.10.21
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Technical Steering Committee Meeting for Nov. 11, 2021
A
There
we
go
and
we
should
be
live.
Let
us
know
in
the
chat,
if
you
can
hear
us
or
not
welcome
to.
B
A
It's
it's
bi-weekly
twice
a
week.
How
do
you
say
every
other
week
just
every
other
week,
I.
A
A
C
Yeah
I'll
go
for
it.
I
welcome
everybody
to
the
permissionless
software
foundation,
technical
steering,
midi
committee
meeting.
It
is
november
10th
I
am
chris
troutner.
I
helped
found
the
psf
looks
like
cool
cleaner
is
out
today.
C
Let's
go
ahead,
go
around
and
do
a
brief
introduction.
Stoian
you
want
to
introduce
yourself.
A
All
right
me
next
sure
my
name
is
aaron
shoemaker
and
I
am
working
with
nft
development
and
integration
with
psf
pay
to
write
database
and
also
when
we
get
time
on
the
development
school
that
we've
been
talking
about,
but
I
think
we've
all
been
pretty
busy
lately
so
david.
I,
like
the
background
there.
E
I
I
am
david
r
allen
and
I
am
acting
as
an
advisor
to
the
guava
project
and
it's
it's
a
project
that
takes
into
account
a
lot
of
the
work
that's
being
done
by
the
psf,
both
on
bch
avex
and
on
ecash
right
on.
C
Are
we
looking
on
your
in
there
aaron,
looking
good,
okay
great?
So
as
our
usual
schedule,
what
we're
gonna
do
is
go
through
the
agenda
items
first.
This
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
celebrate
our
technical
achievements
over
the
last
couple
weeks
and
then
we'll
enter
into
a
roundtable
discussion.
C
I
know
aaron's
got
something
he
wants
to
share
around
the
the
metaverse
and
nfts
there.
We've
also
got
an
item
on
sort
of
dow
governance
structure.
I
wanted
to
continue
the
conversation
that
stone
and
I
had
in
the
vip
channel
and
just
sort
of
pick
up
where
we
left
off,
but
before
we
get
there,
let
me
go
through
the
the
the
technical
items
in
the
agenda
and,
as
always,
feel
free
to
interrupt
me.
If
someone,
if
you
guys
spot,
I
won't
be
watching
the
questions
on
youtube.
C
If
something
comes
up
in
the
permissionless
software
foundation,
telegram
channel
I'll
see
it
on
my
screen
and
we
can
that's
a
great
way
for
people
to
sort
of
interact
if
they're,
not
here
in
the
zoom
call
but
yeah.
Please
interrupt
me
if
you
have
a
comment
or
question
on
what
I
cover.
A
And
I
can
post
the
chat,
I'll
grab
a
window
and
we
can
post
it
up,
so
everybody
can
see
it.
Nice.
C
Well,
he
I
think
he's
contributed
both
in
bitcoin
cash
and
ecash,
but
he
contributed
a
pr
this
week
to
bch
api
to
tap
into
some
of
the
new
rpc
calls
that
the
ecash
full
node
is
offering
like
get
currency
info,
which
they
had
a
re-denomination,
which
it's
now
a
little
harder
to
support,
ecash
and
bch
at
the
same
time,
because
ecash
now
has
a
new
prefix
and
a
new
denomination.
C
So
I
was
really
grateful
to
see
this
pr
because
it's
gonna
help
while
it's
more
easily
switch
between
the
two
blockchains
and
I
needed
to.
I
need
to
apologize
to
him
because
I
have
not
been
able
to
adequately
review
his
pull
request
and
submit
it,
and
part
of
the
reason
for
that
is
that
I'm
still
in
the
process
of
separating
the
full
stack
back
cash
production
infrastructure
from
the
permissionless
software
foundation.
Code
repositories
like
right
now,
they're
they're
too
tightly
coupled
and
I
need
to.
C
I
need
to
separate
them,
so
I
I
wanted
to
sort
of
address
that
here
with
this
item
so
november,
15th
is
in
a
few
days
that
is
traditionally
when
bitcoin
cash
has
had
a
six-month
network
upgrade.
C
This
is
the
first
time
that
it
will
not
be
undergoing
a
network
upgrade,
but
ecash
is
still
on
schedule
for
their
network
upgrade,
so
the
full
stack.cache
infrastructure
has
been
updated
and
it's
it's
ready
for
that
upgrade
all
the
full
nodes
have
been
updated
and
that's
part
of
the
reason
why
I've
been
so
slow
to
merge
this
pr.
C
My
plan
is
to
move
the
code
that
actually
is
pushed
to
production
for
fullstack.cache,
separate
that
from
the
psf
code
repositories.
By
doing
that,
we
can
be
a
little
more
liberal
with
our
approvals
and
code
reviews
and
getting
code
into
the
code
base.
I
definitely
want
to
to
make
it
easy
for
for
pull
requests
to
land
in
the
code
base
after
a
proper
review
and
the
thing
that's
really
kind
of
holding
me
back
from
that
is
the
worry
that
okay.
C
Well,
this
is
immediately
going
to
get
pushed
into
production
once
it's
proved
into
the
master
branch
and
I
need
to.
I
need
to
sort
of
remove
that
fear
and
so
by
decoupling
them
I'll.
Be
able
to
do
that.
So
that's
that's!
Probably
a
couple
weeks
away
and
this
whole
network
upgrade
has
been
a
good
excuse
for
me
to
just
sort
of
audit
that
infrastructure.
C
Also
another
thing
worth
noting
is
that
there's
an
example
shell,
so
for
people
who
are
trying
to
run
the
bch
api
rest
api,
for
instance,
if
they're
trying
to
fulfill
some
of
the
bounties
that
we
have
for
for
running
a
running,
an
api
access.
You
have
to
set
up
bch
api
and
there's
this
example
shell
script,
and
it
was
missing
some
of
the
newer
environment
variables
and
so
I've
seen
a
couple.
C
People
struggle
with
that,
and
so
I
finally
had
the
time
yesterday
to
review
that
and
get
those
get
that
example,
shell
script
updated.
So
it
should
be
a
little
easier
to
set
up
bch
api
now
and
then
finally,
daniel
upgraded
gatsby,
ipfs
web
wallet
to
gatsby
version
4..
They
just
had
a
major
release.
So
that's
good!
So
it's
good
to
keep
that
up
to
date
and
we're
making
really
good
progress.
C
Sweet
yeah,
I'm
excited
about
it
yeah
and
then
the
token
decks
to
bring
everybody
just
to
remind
everybody.
Ava
labs
has
given
a
grant
to
the
psf
to
develop
a
decentralized
exchange
on
their
x
chain,
which
is
a
utxo
based
chain.
C
So
gary
is
working
on
that
he's
taken
the
bch
psf
bch
wallet,
which
is
our
sort
of
quality,
controlled,
cli
wallet
and
our
command
line
wallet
and
and
we
forked
it
into
psf
avex
wallet
and
he
is
pulling
out
the
bch
stuff
and
replacing
it
without
avalanche,
specific
stuff,
refactoring
it
and
we've
already
got
the
whole
maker
taker
acceptance.
C
Workflow
of
the
swap
protocol.
We've
already
got
that
ported
over
to
the
exchange.
So
we
already
know
it's
working,
so
this
dex
is
going
to
be
implemented
fairly
quickly
into
the
command
line,
wallet
and
and
then
and
then
it's
going
to
take
a
little
more
time
to
push
it
out
into
a
an
actual
web
user
interface
so
that
you
know
normal
people
can
use
it
just
by
visiting
a
web
page.
But
work
on
the
decks
is
progressing
really
really
well.
C
C
It's
almost
completed
indexing,
the
entire
blockchain,
the
bitcoin
cash
blockchain
and
so
that's
been
that's
been
a
very
slow
process
because
it's
been
like
you
let
it
run
until
it
finds
a
transaction
that
makes
it
sort
of
fall
over
and
then
you
figure
out
like
why
it
fell
over
and
you
update
the
code
and
then
you
run
it
again
and
you
just
keep
doing
that
and
iterating.
So
it's
been
a
very
slow
process
to
get
to
the
the
tip
of
the
blockchain,
and
so
that's
that
that's
progressing
really
good.
I
think
it's
on.
C
I
just
checked
on
it's
on
like
block
685
000
and
we're
currently
at
like
seven
hundred
and
fifteen
thousand.
So
so
I
expect
in
the
next
couple
days
it
should.
It
should
finish:
indexing,
the
blockchain
and
and
what's
really
cool
about
this
is
once
it
completes
the
full
blockchain
there's
still
a
lot
of
work
to
do
to
get
it
to
work
like
as
an
indexer,
because
then
then
I
have
to
figure
out
how
to
make
it
work
with
block
reorgs
how
to
handle
those
and
how
to
handle
unconfirmed
transactions.
C
C
I
don't
know
how
fast
it's
going
to
be
yet,
but
it's
going
to
be
like
a
matter
of
hours
as
opposed
to
a
matter
of
days,
and
so
that's
going
to
be
really
advantageous
because
people
will
be
able
to
hack
this
index
or
customize
it
for
whatever
their
business
use
case
is
and
then
re-index
it
very
quickly.
And
so
that's
that's
going
to
be
a
huge
value.
Add
compared
to
the
existing
slp
db,
indexer.
A
Yeah,
I'm
very
excited
about
this
sort
of
thing.
I'm
so
glad
that
you're
working
on
this
and
you're,
making
it
more
lightweight
and
because
it
would
be
great
to
be
able
to
shrink
the
size
of
the
hardware
in
order
to
make
this
work
and
I'm
excited
for
some
possibilities
of
what
can
be
done
with
the
slp
tokens.
You
know
having
this
robust
database,
so
that's
awesome,
keep
up
the
good
work.
C
Thanks
aaron
thanks
yeah
yeah
people
are
pretty
excited
about
this
another
thing,
one
of
the
big
sort
of
big
things
that
I
put
in
that
flip
starter,
that
I
wasn't
totally
sure
if
I
was
going
to
be
able
to
achieve
was
I
wanted
to
improve
the
memory
by
10x.
So
slpdb
requires
a
minimum
of
32
gigabytes
of
ram
in
order
to
operate
and
this
thing's
using
about
2
gigabytes
in
order
to
index,
so
that
I
I
am
actually
achieving
more
than
a
10x
improvement
in
memory
consumption.
C
Yeah,
I'm
using
level
db,
which
is
what
the
full
node
uses,
and
I
I'm
looking
forward
to
getting
to
the
point
where
I
can
do
a
benchmark
test
between
rocksdb
and
leveldb
they're,
both
fairly
comparable
databases.
C
Some
people
just
are
really
adamant
that
rocksdb
is
better,
but
you
know
we'll
wait
and
see
what
the
what
the
you
know
benchmark
tests
say:
yeah,
it's
very
small,
the
fully
indexed
I
mean
it's
not
fully
indexed
yet,
but
but
right
now
the
database
is
pushing
two
gigabytes,
and
so
I
expected
by
the
time
it
finishes.
C
Alright,
with
that,
let's
move
into
this
round
table
discussion
on
down,
I
should
have
increased
my
screen
size
on
dow
governance
structure.
We
had
a
really
good
discussion
on
the
vip
channel
so
for
people
who
aren't
familiar
with
that,
it's
psf-vip
on
telegram
and
you
have
to
have
a
certain
amount
of
psf
tokens
staked
in
order
to
speak
in
the
room,
and
if
you
are
interested
in
finding
out
more
about
that
you
can
anybody
can
join
the
room.
C
You
can
click
on
the
pinned
message
to
read
more
about
how
you
actually
get
the
right
to
talk
in
this
room,
but
we
discussed
the
shape
shift
dow,
and
I
want
to
just
sort
of
bring
us
up
to
speed
and
and
summarize
the
conversation
that
we
already
had.
C
I
have
some
notes
here
that
I
took
so
just
to
this
is
less
about
the
psf
and
more
about
just
admiring
this
evolving
dow
model
and
what
other
people
are
doing
out
in
the
world
in
terms
of
successfully
applying
it,
and
I
think
shapeshift
right
now
is
one
of
the
leaders
in
this
space,
certainly
not
the
only
one
but
but
one
of
the
top
ones,
and
at
a
at
a
very,
very
high
level
up
here
at
the
top,
you've
got
the
fox
token
holders
and
they
vote
on
everything
and
there's.
C
Actually
we
won't
go
too
deep
into
this
right
now,
but
there's
actually
like
a
four-tier
voting
system
in
order
to
prevent
voting
fatigue,
which
is
really
important
in
a
dow.
You
don't
want
to
like
have
everybody
vote
on
everything
all
the
time,
because
people
will
just
stop
paying
attention.
C
This
is
a
very
real
phenomenon,
and
so
they
have
a
system
of
where
proposals
sort
of
get
like
what
do
they
call
it
soft
consensus
they
get
sort
of
soft
consensus
before
they
move
up
the
ladder
and
get
actually
voted
on
to
get
hard
consensus.
So
that's
an
interesting
idea
just
in
and
of
itself.
Another
thing
that's
really
interesting
about
dow
is
they've
got
these
partnerships
on
the
right,
so
they
already
have
a
cash
flow,
a
significant
cash
flow
from
partnerships
and
existing
products.
C
A
To
the
main
zoom,
so
chris
we
lost
chris
and
for
those
in
the
chat,
I
got
a
chat
window
up.
So
let's
take
that
off,
we
lost
chris.
We
were
talking
about
the
dowels
and
when
he
comes
back
on
we'll
talk
about
that
a
little
bit
more
before
he
does,
you
know
stoyan,
you
always
are
able
to
blow
our
minds
with
stuff.
Do
you
want
to
take
that
away
while
we're
waiting
for
chris
to
get
back.
D
D
C
C
Yeah,
I
think
I
was
on
the
wrong
wi-fi
hotspot.
Let
me
get
back
to
where
I
was
okay,
so
I
talked
about
their
the
voting
and
the
voting
fatigue
and
the
partnerships
and
the
cash
flows.
Let
me
talk
about
these
work
streams.
So
they've
got
these
different
work
streams
and
what's
great
about
these
work
streams.
So
a
lot
of
what
people
vote
on
when
they
vote
is
they're
voting
on
budgets
for
these
work
streams.
C
So
each
work
stream
has
a
leader
a
work
stream
leader
and
they
raise
their
hand
and
they
say
I'm
going
to
be
a
work
stream
leader
I'll,
be
responsible
for
product
development,
here's
a
budget
and,
and
then
people
vote
on
the
budget
and
then
the
work
stream
leader
is
ultimately
like
accountable
and
right
now,
they're
they're
free
to
sort
of
it's
a
it's,
a
sort
of
a
free
for
all.
C
It's
up
to
the
work
stream
leader
on
how
they
organize
this
work
and
how
they
spend
the
money,
but
ultimately
they're
accountable
for
the
outcome
when
they
come
back
to
get
another
budget
and
right
now.
Some
of
these,
like
so
I've,
been
focusing
most
of
my
attention
on
these
work
streams.
One
thing
again
at
a
high
level
that
I
really
like
about
these
is
that
the
dow
itself
is
not
too
dependent
on
any
one
work
stream.
C
If,
if
one
works
like
and
there
can
be,
there
could
be
multiple
development
work
streams
with
multiple
leaders,
and
so
you
kind
of
get
this
coopetation
going
on,
and
the
end
result
is
that
the
dow
itself
is.
It
has
many
legs
to
stand
on,
it's
not
too
dependent
on
any
one
work
stream
or
work
stream,
leader
working
out,
and
I
think
that's
a
very
resilient
model.
C
On
the
other
hand,
some
of
the
stuff
I
want
to
get
into
that
stone
pointed
out
is
this
idea
of
having
dow
contracts
for
a
work
stream?
I
think
that
would
be
an
improvement
over
what
I've
seen
in
terms
of
the
execution
at
shape-shift
right
now.
So
let
me
go
over
some
of
my
notes,
oh
and
then
okay.
So,
finally,
let
me
one
last
thing
and
I'll
go
into
my
notes
is
so
down
here
at
the
bottom.
C
Are
individual
contributors
and
so
individual
contributors
they're
free
to
sort
of
bounce
around
the
different
work
streams
and
it's
ultimately,
the
work
stream
leaders
that
sort
of
dole
out
rewards
and
so
in
that
that
or
the
organization
behind
that
is,
is
up
to
the
work
stream
leader.
So
that's
how
shape
shift
works.
C
So
some
of
the
notes
I
took
during
our
discussion
in
the
vip
channel,
I
talked
about
voting
fatigue.
I
talked
about
the
treasury
and
this
treasury
is
kind
of
the
ultimate
score
card
because
it
it's
the
price
of
the
token
and
the
number
of
tokens
held
in
the
treasury.
That's
at
any
moment
in
time.
You
can
kind
of
use
a
quick
market
cap
analysis
to
sort
of
understand
how
the
the
the
dow
is
doing
in
terms
of
its
financial
health.
C
Multiple
work
streams,
not
dependent
shape
shift,
has
existing
cash
flows
so
stoin
you
gave
a
great
breakdown
of
some
of
the
tools
they're
using,
so
they
use
gnosis
safe
for
their
treasury,
which
is
really
like.
You
said
just
a
multi-signature
wallet
snapshot
and
safe
shot.
These
are
ways
to
vote
with
erc
20
tokens
that
don't
result
in
an
actual
on-chain
transaction.
C
That's
not
really
something
we're
worried
about
in
bitcoin
cash
and
east
specific
and
then
colony
was
something
you
called
out,
that's
sort
of
where
the
the
smart
contracts
around
the
dow
come
from
and
and
as
you've
as
you
gave
a
demo
a
few
meetings
ago
about
the
the
near
near
protocol
and
their
near
dow
stuff,
and
that
was
very
impressive,
those
those
contracts
that
they
had
available
there.
C
And
then
we
also
talked
about
how
this
idea,
if
each
work
stream
had
a
dow
or
if,
if
each
work
stream
had
dow
contracts
to
sort
of
help
with
the
management
of
the
funding
within
the
work
stream.
That
fits
in
really
nicely
with
this
node.js
governance
model
that
we've
adopted,
which
is
like
that's.
Why
this
technical
steering
committee
exists
and
then
as
we
grow,
and
we
get
interest
in
specific
areas
like
maybe
slp
or
or
metaverse,
or
something
like
that.
C
We
will
we're
supposed
to
spin
off
work
groups
and
that's
that's
the
node.js
governance
model,
and
so
that
fits
in
really
well
with
this
concept
of
work
streams
and
using
these
dow
contracts
to
manage
them.
So
with
that
I'd
like
to
open
this
up
to
your
guys's
thoughts
and
discussion,
I
also
just
what
I
want
to
point
out
with
a
caveat:
it's
not
really
worth
getting
too
deep
into
the
weeds
with
this
stuff
right
now.
C
Now
I
mean
we
all
know
that
there's
a
an
ocean
of
money
in
in
decentralized
exchanges
and
so
we're
already
kind
of
pursuing
that
goal,
and
I
think
that
as
we
develop
a
product
that
matures
that
and
in
particular
the
dexes
that
we're
building
are
leveraging
the
pay
to
write
database,
which
is
a
unique
technology
to
our
organization,
and
so
I
think
that
that
is
the
for
me
at
least
that's
the
obvious
cash
flow
to
pursue.
C
Hopefully
there
will
be
others
in
the
future,
but
right
now,
that's
like
the
clear
low
hanging
fruit
to
me,
and
I
think
that
you
know
we.
We
can't
really
get
too
crazy
with
the
government
structure.
Until
you
know
we
have
our
cash
flow
nailed
down
and
then
we
and
then
we
actually
have
money
to
pay
for
things,
and
then
we
can
really
get
serious
about
this
structure.
That's
at
least
my
initial
still
thought.
So
let
me
kick
it
off
there.
You
know
stoin.
Do
you
have
anything
that
you
want
to
cover?
C
I
don't
I
don't
want
to
represent
you
incorrectly.
D
A
C
A
D
You
see
this
one
yep
okay,
so
when
we
talk
with
chris,
I
wanted
to
see
this.
What
is
this
gnosis
safe?
I'm
gonna.
F
Guys?
Okay,
okay,
should
we
wait
for
you?
Maybe
yes,
yeah
I'll,
be
right
back
musical
interlude,
erin.
A
Yeah,
that
was
great.
That
was
great.
Let's
see
here,
let's
come
back
to
the
main
zoom
I
wait
for
chris
to
come
back.
I
mean
I
like
this
idea
of
the
work
streams.
A
I
I
think
it's
it's
kind
of
one
thing
like:
if
you
head
up
a
work
stream,
you
kind
of
live
and
die
by
it.
It
sounds
like
we
got
multiple
of
chris
here.
Oh.
A
Yeah
all
right,
I'm
going
to
have
to
re,
rearrange
everything
now.
Oh
sorry,
no
you're
good
you're
good.
So
you
know
there
is
a
way
to
do
a
webrtc
chat
through
like
a
decentralized
one.
You
know.
Maybe
somebody
should
look
into
that.
That's
in
the
psf,
because
we'd
love
to
use
that.
C
I
actually
just
started
looking
into
that,
but
I
don't
want
to
derail
the
conversation.
D
Okay,
so
when
we
thought
we
with
chris
about
the
shapeshift
dao,
I
decided
to
research
how
they
are
doing
all
this
stuff.
So
one
of
their
central
tools
is
this
gnosis,
safe
and
in
the
beginning
I
was
very
skeptic
about
it.
I
thought
it
was
just
like
how
to
see
some
specific
way
to
avoid
feast,
but
in
fact
this
is
the
to
go
wallet
for
every
ethereum
based
project,
all
of
them
just
stop
using
other
multi
sikh
wallets
they're,
just
using
this
one.
D
So
it's
a
very,
very
central
tool
and
in
fact
every
dow
needs
multiseek
for
treasury
or
something
per
war
stream
and
we're
missing
these
twos
in
both
smart
bch
and
bch.
D
So
one
of
the
maybe
first
thing
when
we
start
thinking
more
seriously
about
the
dao
should
be
some
way
to
have
a
multi-sick
wallet
and
I
tried
to
in
fact
this
is
just
a
open
source
contracts,
so
they
have
like
solidity
contracts
and
react
component.
D
So
I
tried
to
just
deploy
them
to
smart
bch,
but
they
have
some
very
low
level
instruction
inside
some
assembly,
something
something
and
it's
it's
working
on
some
blockchains
like,
for
example,
if
you
take
a
look
here,
they
have
it
already.
On
the
this
bc
bss
on
the
polygon
on
x,
die.
They
even
have
it
on
phantom,
but
unfortunately,
when
I
tried
to
deploy
to
smart
pch,
there
was
an
error,
so
we
cannot
use
this
directly.
D
So
we
need
to
find
our
own
way.
I
found
some
close
stuff,
but
not
as
good
as
this
one,
because
this
one
it's
ready
and
it
have
you
can
it
have
also
the
javascript
api.
So
you
can
have
your
own
project
to
supplies
transactions
to
this
one
for
for
signing
and
because
of
this
they
have
a
ready
application.
D
D
So
in
fact,
it's
great
application,
but
like
for
bad
luck,
it's
not
working
on
smart
bch.
I
I
hope
they
will
fix.
Maybe
the
I
don't
know
what
is
the
problem
yeah
so.
B
D
I
tried
avalanche
also,
also
not
working,
at
least
on
fuji,
it's
working
on
phantom,
which
is
another
network
so
and
some
other
one,
but
not
on
on
avalanche
and
not
on
smart
bch,
but
it's
maybe
just
some
fixing
the
contract.
It's
not
some
huge
change,
but
still
we
need
multi-sig
wallet
and
other
thing
that
we
need
is
some
way
to
to
do.
Proposals
and
this
the
whole
ethereum
world,
including
shape
shift
they're
using
this
tally
stuff,
which
is
they
give
you
some
api
or
something.
D
D
D
So
it's
I
think,
like
api
for
for
governance
and
gnosis
is
just
a
multi-sig
wallet,
so
they
have
maybe
some
applications
or
small
code
to
interact
with
this
tully.
But
italy
is
independent,
okay,
something
yeah,
see
they
doing
doll
stuff
and
on
the
governance
we
don't
need
to
use,
tally
like
100
percent.
D
D
You
don't
need
so
you
don't
need
to
do
any
stuff,
it's
already
written
and
it's
audited
and
everything.
So
they
can
do
the
governance
with
tokens.
You
can
see
they
have
like
votes
and
everything
already
done
in
their
contracts
and
they
even
already
using
this
for
their
own
site.
Like
this
defender
that
I
show
you
before,
like
zeppelin
defender,
they
have
also
in
their
wizards.
You
can
create
this
kind
of
governance
contract
for
one.
Second,
it's,
like
just
click,
click
click
and
you
have
your
governance,
but
it's
just
a
small
part
of
the
dao.
C
C
Because
you
said
you've,
you've
yeah,
you
showed
us
how
to
deploy
these
open
and
step
on
contact
contracts
to
smart
bch.
So
I
like
this-
I
really
like
this
as
a
as
a
possible
avenue
for
us
is
using
tally
and
open
zeppelin
on
smart
bch.
That's
essentially
the
gist
of
what
you're
saying
right,
yeah.
D
And
other
one
thing
that
I
just
wanted
to
just
several
minutes.
Like
five
minutes,
I
have
a
small
like
replace,
not
replacement,
but
I
think
that
can
be
useful.
This
scaffold
stuff
that
I'm
always
using
they
have
a
multi-seek
example.
But
the
interesting
thing
is
in
order
to
have
a
multi-seek
wallet.
D
You
need,
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
requirement,
but
you
need
to
send
back-end
server
to
keep
the
signature
until
everybody
signed
the
transactions
and
now
they're
using
some
shitty
back-end,
just
a
small
like
express
stuff,
but
I
think
the
pay
to
write
database
will
be
a
great
replacement
here
to
have
also
those
decentralized
stuff
for
this
one.
D
The
api
is
looking
very
much
like
this
gnosis
site
just
several
seconds
until
it's
compiled,
so
this
one
we
can
maybe
develop
it
a
little
to
to
how
to
see
to
use
it
like
a
multic
wallet
with
a
nice
backend
from
the
pay
to
write
database.
D
So
in
general
it
will
look
like
this
one.
This
is
the
this
multi-wallet
address
and
you
can
have
several
wallets
and
several
owners
and
you
can
add
the
owner,
but
we
need
like
signatures
of
these
guys
so
when
and
you
can
create
the
different
transactions
for
pretty
like
transfer
funds.
So
if
you
want
to
fund
this
guy
with,
I
don't
know
like
how
much
it
have
like
0,
10
or
something
it
will
create
these
transactions.
But
it's
still
not.
You
need
to
sign
it.
D
D
Yes,
this
guy,
maybe
don't
have
permissions,
but
but
this
behind
this
thing
is
running
this
back
end
and
you
can
see
there
is
some
data
going
inside
if
we
replace
it
this
with
peter
writes
database.
This
can
be
pretty
decent.
Multi
seek
wallet.
D
C
Yeah
yeah,
I
like
this
idea
like
you're
right.
We
need
to
solve
this
multi-sig
thing
and
I'm
open
to
it,
either
being
on
smart
bch
or
using
native
slp
stuff
or
doing
the
sort
of
higher
level
multisig
program
that
I
I've
sketched
out.
However,
we
solve
this,
I
mean,
I
think
I
think
any
of
those
will
work.
C
I
like
what
you're
p
proposing
here
about
like
if
we
built
a
bridge
for
the
psf
token,
between
bch
and
smart
bch,
then
we
could
leverage
smart
bch
for
a
treasury
and
the
multi-stig
and
the
voting
and
all
the
stuff
that
we
do
now
manually
could
be
done
automatically
and
and
a
little
more
transparency.
It
would
achieve
more
transparency.
C
That's
not
really
a
problem.
The
the
biggest
problem
we're
facing
really
is
is
administrative
cost.
It
would
remove
a
lot
of
that
administrative
cost,
because
we
wouldn't
need
a
human
being
figuring
all
this
stuff
out.
It
would
just
be
a
smart
contract.
D
Yeah,
but
like
we're
talking
the
channel,
we
can
still
keep
the
main
treasury,
the
current
pcf
token
to
be
like
now,
because
it's
important
so
it
can
still
be
managed
like
now,
because
it
will
be
maybe
one
time
in
year
to
send
the
budget
to
these
work
streams
and
they
they
can
do
some
smart
contracting,
whatever
they
want.
So
in
this
case
there
will
be
no
big
changes
from
the
current
state
and
still
the
the
current
people
can
help
see,
keep
the
whole
setup
that
we
have
with
this
electron
cash.
D
D
C
A
I
I'd
like
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
work
stream
leaders
and
the
work
stream
teams,
because
I
do
like
this
idea
that
you
come
with
an
idea
to
the
dow
and
you
say,
here's
my
idea
and
they
say:
okay,
we'd
like
it
and
here's
the
funds
now
you're
responsible
for
putting
together
and
managing
a
team.
A
It's
very
it's
got
a
very
entrepreneurial
aspect
to
it
where
you
know
I'm
a
go-getter.
I
want
to
do
this,
I'm
funded.
If
I
fail,
I
may
not
get
funding
again
from
the
dow.
You
know
I
may
have
to
just
go
back
to
working
on
stuff
or
working
under
other
work
streams,
but
I
do
like
this
idea
because
I
think
it
can
help
the
merit
rise
to
the
top
you
know,
but
there
there's
also
that
danger
that
there's
a
lot
of
hype
and
people
get
sold
on
hype.
A
You
know,
and
so
how
do
we
defend
against
something
like
that?
An
over
hyped
idea
from
somebody?
That's
a
really
good
salesman,
but
maybe
can't
carry
through.
C
Yeah,
that's
exactly
what
I'm
watching
shape
shift
down
like
like
how
are
they
handling
this
exact
same
thing?
And
there
is
this,
because
there
is
so
much
excitement
out
the
gate
and
it
was
kind
of
like
you
know
you
could
get
any
idea
funded
and
I
I
almost
threw
something
out
there
just
just
because
I
knew
that
strike
while
the
iron
is
hot
kind
of
thing.
C
C
He
owns
five
percent
of
the
total
supply
of
tokens,
which
is
actually
a
pretty
big
step
down
from
owning
a
third
of
the
company
and-
and
I
think
his
other
founder
also
probably
owns
five
percent
and
and
then,
but
the
at
least
like
at
least
a
third.
I
think
it's
more
like
45
percent
of
the
of
the
supply.
So
unlike
psf
shapeshift
has
a
fixed
cap.
I
think
they
have
like
a
billion
tokens
or
what
there's
some
whatever
the
number
is:
it's
it's
fixed.
They
can't
bring
new
tokens
into
existence.
C
Unlike
us,
we
have
a
minty
baton
and
we
can
just
make
more
tokens
as
needed,
and
so
the
treasury,
I
think
at
this
time,
has
about
45
percent
of
all
the
tokens
in
circulation
and
then
there's
a
system
and
and
there's
also
a
protection
in
place
where
they
can
only
spend
so
much
like
per
year
or
something
like
that.
C
So
so
there
are
protections
in
place
in
case
you
know,
people
just
go
hog,
wild
and
and
tank
the
price
of
the
token
they'll
at
least
be
forced
to
do
it
slowly
and
but
but
really
it's
the
role
of
these
large
token
holders,
who
essentially
the
whales
who
have
an
outsized
proportion
of
the
voting
power
to
pay
attention
to
the
hive.
C
So
in
that
sense
it's
no
different
than
an
executive
in
a
company
or
or
a
board
of
directors
of
a
company
like
their
job,
is
to
pay
attention
to
the
high
level
stuff,
not
the
low
level
details.
You
know:
what's
the
income,
what's
the
outgo?
What
are
the
assets,
what
are
the
liabilities
and
track
those
over
time?
That's
what
a
good
executive
team
does,
and
so
it
so
that
that
idea
doesn't
change.
In
a
dow,
the
dao
is
still
dependent
on
its
wales
to
essentially
use
their
voting
power
to
make
financially
responsible
decisions.
So.
A
B
A
To
board
it's
something
that
you
that
you
have
in
financial
investment
in
what
about
ways
to
earn
that
place.
You
know,
because
we
we
talk
a
lot
about
developers
that
are
in
poorer
countries.
You
know.
C
Well,
you
know,
I
think,
that's
participating
in
a
work
stream
is
the
way
to
do
that.
Like
I
participated
in
some
of
the
earlier
engineering
stuff
with
shape
shift,
I
wasn't
so
busy.
I
I
still
would
there's
so
much
opera.
I
encourage
anybody
who
wants
to
earn
earn
crypto
go
participate
with
shapeshift,
they
have
money
and
or
they
have
tokens
and-
and
so
the
question
becomes,
do
you
need
to?
Are
you
earning
tokens
to
then
cash
them
out
and
pay?
C
You
know
and
feed
yourself,
or
are
you
earning
them
to
then
hold
them
and
with
the
hope
that
they'll
accrue
and
value,
because
those
are
two
very
different
mentalities?
But
but
essentially
that's
that's
how
you
know
the
system
is
supposed
to
work.
Is
people
participate
in
in
the
work
stream?
They
accrue
tokens?
Hopefully
they
don't
cash
them
out,
they
accumulate
them
and
that's
how
you
rise
from
just
one
person
participating
in
work
stream
to
one
of
these
sort
of
executive
level.
C
So
we
right
now
have
to
focus
on
people
who
want
to
you
know
fulfill
bounties
and
then
retain
those
tokens.
Those
are
the
people
that
we
need
to
prioritize
for
our
own
survival
as
a
tao
at
this
moment
in
time,
and
so
that's
just
that's
just
an
economic
reality,
but
but
the
principles
over
the
long
term
are
the
same.
A
Yeah
yeah
I
can,
I
could
see
you
know,
there's
always
going
to
be
human
issues.
I
can
see
human
issues
with
the
principal
token
holders.
You
know
saying
I
like
this
project.
I
don't
like
this
project,
they
vote
on
it.
It
doesn't
go
through,
but
one
of
the
guys
is
a
big
enough
whale
that
he's
like
well
I'll
fund.
It
myself.
You
know
and.
A
A
C
Well,
it's
not
they've
been
very
careful
to
tiptoe
around
the
very
vague
definitions
of
the
howie
test,
so
they've,
never
as
a
company.
They
never
sold
the
token
like
like
for
money
like
they.
They
rewarded
it
as
like
reward
points,
but
they
never
sold
it
for
money.
There's
you
know.
So
what
the
howie
test
is
a
common
enterprise
with
like
a
central
figure
as
the
the
person
who's
like
sort
of
makes
this
thing
profitable
and
an
expectation
of
profits.
C
C
It's
not,
I
mean
they
have
a
treasury
and
they
can
control
what's
in
their
treasury,
but
they
have
no
control
over,
what's
not
in
their
treasury
and
so
yeah.
It's
really
interesting,
but
also
by
being
decentralized,
it's
sort
of
now.
If
a
regulator
wants
to
go
after
them,
they
have
to
go
after
all
the
individuals
there
is.
No,
you
know
the
like.
C
There
is
no
ceo,
there
is
no
board,
there's
just
token
holders
and
those
work
stream
leaders
are
just
individuals,
volunteering
to
do
things
and
get
reimbursed
in
these
tokens,
and
now
I've
strongly
encouraged
them
to
move
away
from
dollar
based
budgets.
It's
a
difficult
thing
to
do,
especially
if
you're
hiring
americans,
who
expect
to
be
paid
in
competitive
salaries,
but
I've
just
something.
I've
thought
a
lot
about,
and
I've
had
a
chance
to
kind
of
discuss
it
with
some
of
the
the
work
stream
leaders
at
shapeshift
is.
C
A
Any
any
more
on
the
subject,
or
can
I
show
some
stuff
in
the
nft
world.
A
Now
go
for
it
aaron!
Okay,
I'm
gonna
share
my
screen
here.
This
is,
and
let
me
make
sure
I
screen
sharing
weird.
It
won't
share
my
screen
on
there.
I
wouldn't.
A
That's
weird:
let
me
do
this,
I'm
just
going
to
share.
B
A
What
it
looks
like
horizon?
Okay,
that's
what
it's
supposed
to
look
like,
so
let
me
go
ahead
and
share
my
screen
again
all
right
and
I
want
to
make
sure
we
can
see
this
online
because
for
some
reason,
obs
is
not
showing
up.
So,
let's
see
here
I'll.
A
A
For
those
who
are
online,
I'm
going
to
transition
this
and
go
to
my
so
I'm
in
the
unity
editor
here
and
one
of
the
cool
things
I
found
out
is
that
you
can
actually
load
up
assets.
They've
had
it
for
a
while,
where
you
can
load
up
assets
from
the
web.
A
This
is
for
mobile
games
ar
vr,
so
the
packages
aren't
so
heavy,
but
I
did
find
out
that
you
can
load
up
these
assets
from
from
ipfs,
which
means
that
we
can
eventually
load
them
from
pay
to
write
database
and
that
sort
of
thing
so
over
here
I've
got
an
empty
game
asset
and
I've
got
a
script
here,
called
the
bundle
web
loader
script,
and
I
bring
up-
and
it's
just
this
simple
script
right
here.
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
can
see
it
because
I
am
sharing.
A
A
A
This
is
unity.
The
editor
this
is
the
unity.
Editor
runs
on
c-sharp
for
people
that
are
interested
in
that.
So
we
got
this
web
loader
script.
We
also
have
a
you.
You
have
to
create
a
bundle
asset
creator,
script
as
well,
and
I
think
that's
right
here.
So
what
happens?
Is
we
create
this
empty
game
object
and
I
uploaded
to
ipfs.
A
For
those
who
don't
know,
ipfs
does
have
a
desktop
client.
It's
really
easy
to
use,
literally
drag
and
drop
a
file,
and
then
you
can
get
a
shareable
link
and
a
cid
for
it.
So
I
uploaded
to
ipfs
and
put
it
into
the
bundle
url
with
the
name
and
let's
go
ahead
and
hit
play.
We
just
gotta
wait
for
a
little
bit
for
it
to
we're
in
the
game
window
now
and
it
should
be
grabbing
this
asset
from
ipfs
there.
A
It
is,
I
need
to
work
with
so
let's
take
that
into
the
scene
and
I'm
going
to
rotate
it.
So
you
can
see
it
better.
I
need
when
I
brought
this
out
of
my
3d
3df
zephyr.
It
was
a
little
bit
off,
but
you
can
see
the
asset
right
there.
It
is
literally
streaming
straight
from
ipfs
to
my
computer
and
the
cool
thing
about
this
is
this
could
be
on
the
pay
to
write
database.
This
can
be
in
a
one
step.
Further
is,
let
me
bring
up
my
web
browser
here
and
so.
A
It's
downloading
it
you
have
to
this
particular
one
is
not
like
an
obj,
so
you
have
to
create
it
in
unity
to
make
it
a
unity,
specific
file,
and
then
you
also
have
to
make
it
specific
to
device.
So
if
anybody's
going
to
do
this,
you're
going
to
have
an
ios,
you
haven't
have
to
have
an
android,
a
windows,
whatever
device
this
is
going
to
be
shown
on.
It
has
to
have
a
specific
call,
but
what's
cool
is
you
can
upload
the
whole
file
and
then
just
go
through
the
file
structure
to
pull
whatever
asset?
A
C
A
This
is,
this
is
chain
safe,
gaming,
sdk
and
stewie,
and
I
thought
you'd
be
pretty
stoked
about
this,
so
this
guy
just
released
videos
out
in
october
about
utilizing
nfts
made
on
ethereum
within
the
unity
game
engine,
and
so
it
will
go
out
and
literally
pull
in
nfts
on
marketplaces
like
openc,
and
then
you
can
load
them
into
your
game,
and
these
are
just
a
bunch
of
videos
on
how
he
does
that
sort
of
thing,
and
then
you
get
into
some
of
the
code
calls
and
right
now
the
chains
it
works
on
is
ethereum
avalanche,
binance,
moonbeam,
polygon
and
xda
die.
A
But
what
is
really
cool
about?
This
is
what
I've
been
talking
about
is
now
happening.
People
are
drawing
nfts
as
assets
into
their
game
and
how
they
do
it
is
they
create
wallets
within
the
game,
and
then
you
put
in
your
seed
phrase
or
whatever,
and
then
it
will
check
the
balance
and
if
you
have
a
balance
of
that
token,
it
will
load
that
token
asset
into
your
game.
A
A
So
I'm
gonna
stop
my
screen,
share
real
quick
and
come
on
and
change
the
back
to
the
main
zoom
here
and
where's.
The
main
zoom.
A
All
right
boom,
I
gotta,
adjust
this
again
so
yeah.
That
was
something
that
I
found
was
researching
stuff
yesterday,
which
was
really
cool.
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
work
with
creating
the
tokens,
because
right
now
it's
a
ethereum
base
or
avalanche
base,
so
I
got
to
get
into
that
there
there
are
tutorials
on
how
to
do
it
with
ethereum.
A
C
C
That's
great,
you
know
the
big
big
sort
of
challenge
I
see
there
or
the
next
the
next
challenge,
once
this
workflow
is
a
little
more
polished.
Is
this
idea
of
the?
I
think
this
is
in
line
with
the
trust
merchant
idea
that
we've
talked
about
is,
is
you
would
in
this?
So
in
the
use
case
for
fine
art
like
one
of
the
things
that
blows
me
away
about
open
c
right
now
is
how
people
are
putting
the
high-res
images
just
out
there
and
then.
B
C
You
actually
buy
the
nft.
All
you're
buying
is
a
record
on
the
blockchain
you're,
not
actually
buying
access
exclusive
access
to
the
resolution,
art,
which
is
the
thing
that
you
would
typically
buy
in
a
sale
like
that,
and-
and
so
this
is
really
like.
I'm
I'm
having
a
much
harder
time
with
this
idea
of
like
just
put
the
high
res
image
out
there
and
then
what
you're
actually
selling
is
like
something
that
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
actual
access
to
the
high-resolution
art.
C
A
A
So
whatever
nft
assets,
you
have
tied
to
your
wallet
if
they're
part
of
the
game
or
not
part
of
the
game,
they
can
be
brought
into
the
game
at
that
point
and
only
used
by
you,
which
is
which
is
pretty
cool,
keeping
that
secure
making
sure
nobody
gets
your
seed
phrase,
that's
something
that
needs
to
be
looked
into.
I
mean
I
would
run
this
stuff
on
test
net
right
now
and
not
use
any
actual
eath,
but
the
idea
of
it
is
really
really
cool
and
I
think
there's
going
to
be
further
development.
A
One
of
the
things
you
said
was
putting
the
hi-res
stuff
on
there,
a
solution
that
I'm
working
on
is
I
want
so
with
these
3d
assets,
I
can
create
a
html
file,
so
you
can
view
them
within
a
browser,
but
you
can't
use
the
ad
set
right.
So
the
idea
is,
I'm
going
to
create
an
ipfs
website
like
a
simple
website
where
that's
the
main
page
you
come
and
you
see
the
object
cool
you
can
move
it
around.
A
B
D
I
think
it's
already
solved.
I
think
some
of
the
sites-
maybe
not
open
c
but
they're
using
in
the
moment
something
named
lazy
minting,
which
means
that
the
asset
is
not
minted
until
the
the
first
guy
pay
for
it.
D
So
you
can
search,
I
think,
the
other
like
wearable.
What
was
the
this
one
of
the
big
site?
They
already
have.
This
lazy
minting,
I
think,
from
now
pretty
much
everybody
will
try
to
implement
it.
So
you
have
like
advertisement
for
this
nft,
but
until
the
first
time
somebody
purchase
this
thing.
It's
not
really
minted
and
when
you
mint
it
it's.
A
You
mean
you
need
it
when
you
say
advertising,
that's
another
use
case
for
this
sort
of
thing.
I
know
people
don't
like
it
as
much,
but
imagine
you're
playing
a
video
game
and
the
you
could
have
a
billboard,
be
a
specific
nft
location
like
a
script
loader
and
you
have
your
wallet
address
in
there
and
then
you
could
get
advertisements
that
are
good
for
you.
You
know
something
that
that
you
want
and
then
your
ad,
your
the
advertisers
can
pay
for
that
place.
Or
maybe
you
know
it's
it's
not
specific
to
you.
A
Maybe
the
advertiser
is
just
playing
ping
and
say
it's
a
local
chain
and
people
are
playing.
The
video
game
within
you
know,
say
des
moines
and
there's
a
des
moines
chain
that
wants
to
advertise
to
their
people,
but
they
don't
want
to
advertise
the
entire
united
states.
Well,
here's
a
use
case
for
using
some
sort
of
nft
technology
to
sell
them
ad
space
within
the
game.
A
So
there's
there's
a
lot
of
really
cool
use
cases
for
this,
and
this
is
where
I
think
the
metaverse
is
headed
this
idea
of
being
able
to
take
your
assets
from
one
game
to
another
and
have
different
game
experiences,
and
I
do
think
that,
like
they
developed
open
xr
for
this
congealing,
the
x,
the
vr
mixed
reality
ar
platforms,
we're
gonna
see
a
lot
of
that
happen
in
game
development
period
where
there
is
just
like
javascript,
has
a
certain
way
of
writing.
A
C
Yeah
yeah
hell
yeah
yeah.
It's
definitely
this
is.
This
is
the
beginning
of
a
trend
I
mean,
like
you
and
other
people
have
been
predicting
it
now,
we're
actually
starting
to
see
it
happen
in
the
real
world.
It's
clunky,
but
it's
going
to
get
polished.
A
Yeah
yeah
and
it's
interesting-
I
mean
I'd
like
to
look
in
if
it's
working
on
evm,
I
think
it
should
work
on
b,
smart
bch,
so
you
know
I
need
to
get
back
and
study
some
of
the
stuff
you've
shown
us
toy
in
to
see
if
I
can
make
this
work
with
smart
bch,
because
that
would
be
really
cool.
A
I
I
think
it'd
be
very
cool
to
pull
in
slp
nfts
this
way
and
figure
out
a
way
to
do
that,
but
it
just
means
looking
at
a
different
code
base
or
finding
a
way
to
port
the
c-sharp
code
base
over
to
javascript.
They
do
have
a
webgl
type
of
thing,
so
I
gotta
look
in
that.
C
C
A
Yeah
and
so
the
the
thing
that
I
copied
and
I'll
just
post
in
the
telegram
here,
if
people
want
to
take
a
look
at
it,
this
chain
safe
software.
He
goes
through
several
videos
of
setting
up
the
nfd
and
he
does
a
very
simple
example
where
he
just
changes.
This
color
of
the
sphere,
so
he's
got
a
sphere
in
there
and
then
he
loads,
the
nft,
which
is
a
red
sphere
and
just
to
show
proof
of
concept.
Hey
you
can
do.
A
This
he's
got
a
red
sphere
on
open
c,
literally
loads,
it
from
open
c
into
unity,
very,
very
cool,
and
there
are
guys
doing
this
with
ar
they
aren't
utilizing
crypto
yet
but
same
concept
as
they're
pulling
the
ar
objects
off,
and
this
allows
you
to
change
things
and
going
into
the
mutable
data
spec.
A
B
A
F
C
Yeah,
it's
got
my
gears
turned
in
this
this
idea
of
of
essentially
so
I'm
I'm
really
focused
right
now
on
this.
C
This
sort
of
fine
art
use
case,
because
because
I'm
trying
to
commission
a
an
nft
for
myself
from
a
fine
artist
and
and
we're
talking
about
different
ways,
you
know
we're
we're
really
looking
at
openc
and
looking
at
how
other
artists
are
monetizing
their
stuff
right
now,
I'm
I'm
kind
of
thinking
like
if
there
was
a
smart
contract
or
or
possibly
just
an
encrypted,
regular
node.js
app
that
has
a
portion
of
it
that's
encrypted.
C
You
could
actually
what
we'd
in
order
to
this
idea
of
like
so
if
the
nft
had
a
say,
a
low
res
image
that
everybody
can
see
and
that's
like
the
token
icon
and
that's
what
what
gets
passed
around,
but
it's
only
the
holder
of
the
token
who
has
exclusive
access
to
the
high
resolution
image
yeah
when
you
sell
that
token
you've
got
a
problem,
because
now,
how
do
you
restrict
the
previous
owner
from
having
access
to
it?
And
how
do
you
grant
access
to
the
new
owner?
C
I
mean
that's
a
trivial
thing
to
do
if
you
just
set
up
like
a
centralized
server,
and
that
becomes
your
your
media,
you
know
host
and
everybody
just
has
to
go
to
that
central
party
to
to
get
the
you
know,
that's
what
checks
the
the
signatures
and
does
the
encryption?
That's
easy.
How
could
you
do
it
in
a
way?
That's
not
centralized!
That's.
A
The
hard
part-
that's
that's
the
big
question
that
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
as
well,
because
you
have
your
nfts
and
if
you
did
them
on
a
centralized
database
and
that
database
goes
away,
those
nsts
are
worthless.
You
do
them
on
a
decentralized
database
as
long
as
you
do
it
right,
they'll
stay
there.
A
You
know
right
now,
theoretically,
for
a
long
time,
don't
know
what's
going
to
happen
the
future,
but
the
problem
with
the
decentralized
database
is
the
security
it's
easier
to
secure
a
centralized
database
than
it
is
a
decentralized
database
to
keep
people
out.
So
how
do
you
keep?
I
think
when
it
comes
to
like
the
high
art
situation,
you
have
to
prevent
that
owner
from
being
able
to
download
it
so
his
ability
to
display
it
and
use
it
has
to
be
within
a
wallet
functionality
unless
that's
tied
to
a
contract
where
it's
like.
A
This
is
an
unsellable
asset.
You
know
almost
like
a
burn.
You
know
like
I'm,
going
to
sell
you
this
token
and
you
are
going
to
be
unable
to
sell,
sell
this
again
or
send
it
to
somebody
else.
So
that's
a
use
case
picture
type
thing
you
want
to
be
able
to
use
it
again.
Maybe
it's
something
where
okay,
you
can
view
it
through
the
wallet
or
ipfs
or
or
whatever,
but
you
can't
download
it,
because
how
do
you
prevent
this
person
from
downloading
the
asset
and
just
selling
it
a
bunch
of
times?
A
You
know
those
are
questions
that
have
to
be
answered
and
how?
How
are
you
going
to
go
about
doing
that?
I
think
the
market
will
answer
these
questions
as
people
go
around
and
say:
okay,
I'm
going
to
lock
this
up.
I
can
no
longer
see
it.
I
sold
it
to
you,
you
can
see
it
full
res,
but
it's
the
same
thing
with
what?
If
it's
music,
how
do
you
prevent
them
from
streaming?
A
You
know
from
downloading
you
know
so,
like
I
talked
to
a
guy
who's,
a
security
guard
friend
of
mine
here
and
he's
like
well.
In
that
case,
you
can
put
a
background
processes.
You
know
part
of
the
application,
so
when
it
streams
it's
also
checking
for
other
background
processes
to
see
if
they're
ripping
it
you
know,
and
then
it
would
cut
the
stream
so
it'd
say:
oh
you're
you're
actually
recording
I'm
going
to
cut
the
stream.
A
Let
me
go
to
screen
share.
D
Okay,
can
you
see
this
yeah
so
in
fact,
the
problem
that
you
are
talking
about?
It's
already
this
secret
network,
if
you
know
that's
from
long
time,
they're
doing
some
thick
with
privacy,
so
they
already
have
this.
You
can
have
private
metadata
on
the
secret
network,
so
I
will
just
post
somewhere.
Maybe
the.
B
C
D
Yeah,
so
this
one
they're
interesting
they're
working
a
lot
about
the
security
on
the
nfts,
not
only
nfts
tokens,
so
they
have
interesting
idea.
You
can
maybe
get
something
from
here
and
one
more
just
to
show
is
zora
in
the
beginning.
When
I
look
on
it,
it
looks
like
a
pretty
shitty
site
for
nfts,
but
in
fact
this
is
the
open
source
protocols
for
nft
and
they
so
the
repositories
github.com,
our
zora.
D
So
this
other
open
source
contract
they
how
to
see
extended
a
little
the
standard
to
have
a
little
more
functions
inside
the
contract,
but
it's
allowed
them
to
do
some
interesting
stuff
like,
for
example,
to
have
auctions
or
percent
to
go
to
the
creator,
all
this
to
be
inside
the
contract
and
they
also
have
some.
They
divided
the
metadata
url
in
the
token
url,
which
I
think
this
can
be
used,
and
this
one
is
changeable.
D
D
C
D
Yeah,
so
for
any
of
these
this
to
on
the
topic
that
we're
talking
in
the
moment,
secret,
nfts
and
zora-
and
I
just
wanted
to
show
you
also
one
more
about
the
indexer:
do
you
know
this
site
the
graph.
C
D
If
we
can
do
this
with
the
indexer
will
be
like
I
don't
know,
everybody
will
love
us
a
lot.
This
thing
this
thing
allows
you
to
to
create
a
small
indexer
per
contract
in
in
case
of
the
evm,
but
it
will
be
interesting.
B
C
Sites
yeah,
so
as
I'm
building
this
sop
indexer
that
that
thought
has
occurred
to
me
that,
like
man,
this
would
be
so
much
faster
if
this
would
be
so
much
faster
if
you
didn't
have
to
index
the
entire
blockchain,
if
you
had
some
way
to
like
hone
in
on
a
on
a
specific
like
a
white
list
or
a
black
list
or
or
a
graph
of
some
kind,
I
mean
it
would
just
be
100x.
Maybe
a
thousand
x
times
faster.
A
And
I
like
that
idea,
yeah
of
going
with.
C
D
Yes,
but
you
can
interesting
is
that
every
project
can
have
this
sub
graph,
so
you
just
need
to
tell
them.
They
have
a
tools
to
tell
them
which
events
or
what
contract
you
have
and
it
will
create
like
a
graphql
client,
especially
for
your
project.
So
if
you
have
a
site
with
nfts,
you
can
have
a
graphql
specifically
for
this
site,
so
ask
them
what
are
purchases
in
the
last
hour
or
what
are
the
music
nfts
only
and
you
don't
need
to
write
every
time,
javascript
code
for
every
particular
case.
A
See,
that's
that's
great
for
what
I'm
I'm
trying
to
do
with
digital
asset
capture,
because
that
tells
me
I
can
put
them
into
different
groups.
You
know
here's
action,
figures,
here's
trees,
here's.
D
C
Yeah
well,
I'm
in
terms
of
the
slp
indexer
that
I'm
building
right
now,
I'm
definitely
going
to
have
a
white
list
and
a
blacklist
feature
so
that
I
mean
the
really
the
hard
problem
to
solve.
There
is
making
a
general
purpose
index
or
they
can
index
the
entire
blockchain.
That's
the
hard
part
doing
a
whitelist
or
a
blacklist
is
makes
everything
easier
and
james
added
that
to
slpdb
he
added
a
a
white
list.
I
don't
think
he's.
C
I
don't
think
he's
added
blacklist
capabilities,
and
so
I
plan
to
do
the
same,
but
yeah
I
I
it'd
be
it'd,
definitely
be
worth
my
time
looking
into
the
graph
and
looking
at
their
api
and
just
sort
of
seeing
how
we
can.
C
D
I
I
thought
they
only
the
ethereum
like,
but
I
see
now
they're
using
koso.
They
indexes
also
the
near
blockchain,
so
I'm
not
sure
can
they
do
something
with
utxo
based
blockchains
like
bch,
but
we
can
ask
them.
I
don't
know
if
they
can
help
with
this.
It
will
be
a
great
way
to
I'm
not
sure,
because
how
to
see
all
of
this
near
and
ethereum
they're
contract
based.
So
you
can
tell
them
okay
index
just
this
contract,
which
is
not
it's
so
good
for
us,
but
yeah
that
is
different,
but
we
can.
C
Yeah
I
mean
so
there.
There
is
a
concept
of
a
graph
in
slp
there's,
that's
what
graph
search
plus
plus
that
jt
freeman
built.
That's
what
it
does
is
it
it
analyzes
the
the
the
general
graph
between
nodes
which
are
transactions,
and
then
slpdb
has
a
has
a
a
data
sub
database.
That's
just
a
collection,
that's
just
dedicated
to
understanding
the
graph,
the
connection
between
tokens
and
I'm.
I
guess
I'm
not
deep
enough
in
computer
science
to
really
understand
the
value
of
that
I
mean.
C
I
know
it's
valuable,
like
dags
are
extremely
valuable.
I
get
that
but
yeah
I
really,
and
I
this
is
just
I
guess,
I'm
thinking
aloud.
I
I
need
to
spend
more
time
understanding
the
graph,
because
I've
heard
a
lot
of
good
things
about
it.
It
seems
to
be
gaining
a
lot
of
popularity
in
the
industry,
particularly
with
evm
blockchain,
so
yeah.
If
there's
some
way,
we
can
tap
into
that.
That
would
be
a
good
thing
and
if
anybody
wants
to
you
know
watching
this
gets
inspired
and
wants
to
collaborate.
A
I'm
going
to
take
a
look
at
it
for
sure,
because
you
know
I'm
trying
to
develop
a
protocol
for
creating
these
digital
assets
and
how
to
store
them
and
how
to
you
know
categorize
them.
You
know
so
I'll
I'll,
take
a
look
into
it
in
the
next
few
weeks.
C
Great
all
right
well
we're
about
an
hour
and
20
minutes
in.
I
think
we
should
wrap
this
up.
Is
there
anything
that
anybody
wants
to
get
out
before
we
close
it
up.
A
C
Okay,
yeah,
I'm
glad
I
got
that
close-up
shot
of
it
all
right,
all
right
guys.
Well,
let's
go
ahead
and
wrap
this
up.
I
think
it's
been
a
good
day.
We've
covered
a
lot
of
topics.
Thank
you,
for
it
was
a
wonderful
conversation
about
the
dows
great
to
just
be
on
the
same
page
with
you
guys
and
be
asking
the
same.
Questions
and
kind
of
you
know
have
a
collective
understanding
of
what's
going
on,
at
least
with
shape
shift.
A
And
feel
free
to
contact
any
of
us
through
telegram.
If
you
want
to
talk
any
more
about
any
of
this
stuff,
you
know
I'm
always
willing
to
talk
about
vr,
the
metaverse
and
nfts
so
hit
me
up.