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From YouTube: PSF TC Meeting 2/2/22
Description
Technical Steering Committee Meeting for Feb. 22, 2022
A
2022
this
is
the
permissionless
software
foundation,
technical
steering
committee
meeting.
I
am
chris
troutner.
I
helped
found
the
psf.
Let's
go
ahead
and
do
a
quick
round
of
introductions.
Aaron
shoemaker.
Why
don't
you
start.
C
E
Go
ahead:
cool,
cleaner,
hey,
aaron,
simon
here,
I've
loved
the
psf,
I've
been
a
part
of
it.
You
know
following
everything,
and
I've
decided
recently,
I'm
also
going
to
make
sure
that
I
stand
up
and
support
it
from
a
hardware
perspective
and
the
network
perspective,
because
I
feel
like
this
is
important
to
have
it
be.
E
Have
it
work
like
it
does
and
as
inexpensive
from
a
fees
perspective
as
as
the
psf
and
the
bch,
avex
and
ecash
are,
but
also
have
it
be
permissionless,
because
if
it's
not
permissionless,
it's
not
really
going
to
be
a
long
term
play
it's
going
to
be
something
that
gets
shut
down.
So
I'm
excited
to
be
a
part
of
this.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
aaron.
That
is,
that
is.
A
A
How's
that
looking
on
your
end,
aaron,
we
could
see
it
just
fine
okay.
So
if
anybody
wants
to
is
watching
this
live
and
wants
to
participate,
I
recommend
you
go
to
our
telegram
channel.
That
is,
let
me
pull
up.
T
dot
me
slash
permission
list.
Underscore
software
we
can
chat,
live
the
youtube
chat,
doesn't
work
as
well.
If
you
really
want
to
get
your
thoughts,
hurt,
that's
the
place
to
put
them
go
ahead
or.
A
A
Yeah,
so
our
typical
agenda
is
we'll
go
through.
We
have
a
written
agenda
that
we'll
go
through,
which
is
our
opportunity
to
just
sort
of
celebrate
our
technical
achievements
over
the
last
couple
weeks.
Once
we
get
through
that
we'll
open
it
up
to
a
round
table
where
it's
sort
of
free
to
discuss
anything
we
want
so
for
people
who
want
to
find
this
agenda
and
the
links
that
are
in
it.
A
A
Let
me
just
show
this
here,
so
this
is
at
psfoundation.cache
video.
If
you
click
on
the
the
menu
there's
also
a
link
to
the
to
the
videos
page
and
this.
So
these,
if
you
for
some
reason,
want
to
watch
these
previous
tsc
meetings.
They
are
they're
in
this
first
section.
A
This
beginner's
video
section
right
now
just
has
a
placeholder.
This
is
going
to
have
like
very,
very
basic
stuff.
Around
wallet.fullstack.cache,
like
create
a
wallet,
send
bch
send
tokens.
You
know
very
basic
stuff
like
that.
That's
coming
this
beginner
javascript
developer
section
is
for
people
who
want
to
dip
their
toe
in
the
water
of
development,
particularly
javascript
development,
and
everything
that
is
posted
in
this
section
is
based
on
the
pi
400,
which
is
a
100
computer
with
four
gigabytes
of
ram.
A
It
runs
ubuntu
linux
and
these
videos
these
first
few
videos
show
how
to
set
them
up
and
walk
through
them.
Yeah
and
set
up
screen
sharing
and
I'm
gonna
be
adding
more
videos
here
then
there's
this
devops
section,
and
this
is
also
going
to
get
expanded,
because
the
mission
of
the
permission,
the
software
foundation,
is
to
help
individuals
protect
their
privacy,
circumvent
censorship
and
engage
in
economic
activity.
So
devops
is
a
very
important
part
of
that.
A
So
right
now
I've
got
videos
up
there
on
how
to
do
end-to-end
encrypted
chat
using
pidgin,
which,
and
then
I'm
gonna
have
an
additional
video
showing
how
to
do
end
and
encrypted
messages
using
the
psf
bch
wallet
with
that
sent
up.
Yet
I
just
posted
this
video
on
how
to
install
electron
cash
with
cash
fusion
in
order
to
anonymize
your
bitcoin
cash.
A
These
are
also
based
on
the
pi
400
100
mini
computer
and
then
at
the
bottom.
Here
we've
got
this
more
advanced
infrastructure,
devops
and
infrastructure,
and
so
this
this
shows
step
by
step
how
to
install
the
entire
global
back
end
of
the
cache
stack.
It's
the
reference
implementation
is
a
400
computer
with
32
gigabytes
of
ram
and
a
one
terabyte
ssd
hard
drive
it
walks
through
how
to
install
ubuntu
set
up
a
bch.
A
E
Yeah,
well,
I
just
want
to
shout
out
chris
because
that
content,
not
only
did
you
learn
how
to
do
this
particular
thing,
but
you
also
learn
a
lot
about
the
specifics
of
docker
of
how
to
put
it
all
together
I
mean
I,
I
think
you
have
really
achieved
a
lot
in
just
putting
on
what
you've
done,
as
well
as
it's
available
to
the
entire
world
that
can
access
the
internet
so
well
done.
I
just
want
to
say.
A
A
Well,
so
the
next
video
I'm
going
to
do
is
how
to
use
a
vpn
to
circumvent
geofencing,
and
so
that
video
is,
it
will
be
illegal
in
russia
and
china
and
north
korea
are
the
are
the
the
top
ones.
I
know
that
that
information
is
illegal,
so.
A
B
E
So
david
part
about
it
is
anything
that
you
want
to
do
privately
is
often
scorned
by
governments.
Even
just
you
know,
just
not
being
able
to
like
spy
on
you,
for
some
reason
is
considered
a
bad
thing.
I
I
feel,
like
it's
not
shouldn't,
be
controversial,
that
people
should
be
allowed
to
have
a
level
of
privacy,
so
I
mean
I,
I
think
it's
odd,
that
it's
actually
we
have
to
defend.
A
Privacy
right
and
that's
why
we're
all
here
I
mean,
ultimately
that
is
the
mission
of
the
psf
we're
all
here,
because
we
believe
in
personal
freedom
that
our
money
is
our
money
and
it's
nobody
else's
business.
What
we
do
with
it
that
our
information
is
our
information
and
it's
under
our
control
and
no
one
gets
to
tell
us
what
we
can
and
can't
do
with
it.
A
So
I
added
a
few
more
videos
here
on
how
to
set
up
the
ipfs
service
provider,
which
is
also
a
much
simpler
thing
to
set
up,
even
though
it's
at
the
end,
we
need
more
circuit
relays
just
like
we
need
people
running
these
infrastructures,
there's
bounties
for
both
there's
actually
like
a
video
cut
off
here,
but
daniel's
working
on
fixing
that
and
then
lastly,
there's
this
section
on
dev
culture.
So
this
gets
into
javascript
development
test,
driven
development,
some
of
the
testing
practices
that
you'll
you'll
interact
with.
A
If
you
go
through
our
code,
clean
architecture,
which
is
a
design
pattern
that
we
we
use
and
an
introduction
to
sort
of
the
the
trello
board
and
the
remote
work
that
we
do
for
people
who
really
start
to
get
into
collecting
bounties
and
working
with
the
psf
as
we
hopefully
grow
and
become
more
of
a
doubt
so
yeah
more
video
lots
of
videos.
More
videos
coming
encourage
everybody
to
check
that
out.
A
Okay,
well
I'll
get
into
the
these
other
three
sections
here
so
in
with
regard
to
the
psf
core
software,
which
is
bch
api
bchjs,
our
gatsby
web
wallet,
psf
bch
wallet,
which
is
our
command
line
wallet
and
and
now
the
psf
slp
indexer.
A
So
the
majority
of
my
focus
over
the
last
few
weeks
has
been
on
phasing
out
slp
db
and
psf
slp
indexer.
It's
it's
been
amazing
to
watch
the
death
throes
of
slpdb
like
every
time.
I
stand
it
up
it.
The
the
amount
of
time
it
stays
up
is
decrease
is
decreasing
exponential.
A
It's
to
the
point
where
I
can't
get
it
to
run
for
more
than
a
day,
and
so
I'm
very
very
quickly
trying
to
phase
out
slpdb
and
say
is
in
the
psf
slp
indexer,
which
is
running
good
the
latest
and
because
you
know
I
won't
bring
up
the
cache
stack,
but
I've
done
that
plenty
of
times
before.
So,
if
you
can
visualize
the
the
cache
stack,
the
indexer
is
like
way
at
the
bottom,
so
this
is
kind
of
like
picking
up
a
house
and
replacing
the
foundation
it's
a
messy
process.
A
So
it's
taking
a
lot
of
time,
it's
very
disruptive,
but
just
recently
I
pushed
an
update
to
the
slp
indexer.
A
So
there's
a
blacklist
and
there's
also
nfts,
and
it
was
not.
It
was
just
kind
of
ignoring
those,
and
so
when
that
percolated
up
the
stack
to
the
wallet
that
meant
that
the
wallet
would
just
spend
those
those
utxos
like
like
normal
bitcoin
cash,
which
would
burn
them
and
that's
not
good.
So
I
just
pushed
an
update
so
that
those
transactions
are
marked
as
like
null
rather
than
true
or
false.
There's
like
a
null
value.
A
So
it's
like
three
values
and
so
the
the
command
line,
wallet
and
I'm
in
the
process
of
pushing
this
up
to
the
web
wallet
will
now
or
actually
it's.
I
should
mention
it's
really.
What
it
comes
down
to
is
this
utxo.get
in
bchjs
is
it
will
retrieve
these
hydrated
utxos
from
the
indexer
and
then
now,
if
it
encounters
an
nft
or
a
token,
that's
on
the
blacklist
like
flex
usd
those
utxos
will
get
put
into
this
null
utxo
array,
and
so
that
allows
the
wallet
to
just
ignore
those
utxos.
A
It
won't
burn
them,
but
it
also
just
won't
do
anything
with
them.
They
won't,
they
won't
show
up,
and
at
least
they're
safe.
So
so,
if
someone
imports
their
wallet
into
one
of
our
wallets
and
they
have
flex
usd
or
nfts
in
it,
it
won't
burn
them.
They
just
won't
show
up.
Oh
okay,
yeah,
so
yeah.
I
figured
that's
kind
of
the
best
of
both.
You
know
the
happy
medium
there.
A
Exactly
exactly
like,
we
will
add
support
for
nfts,
that's
on
the
road
map,
but
it's
it's.
We
have
limited
resources,
so
we
have
to
do
what
we
have
to
do
right
now.
A
B
A
No,
they
they
I
mean
they
do
and
they
don't.
You
got
to
keep
in
mind
that
bitcoin.com
is
a
marketing
company
they're,
not.
A
Push
the
marketing
push
the
marketing
push
the
marketing
yeah,
and,
and
so
I
don't
think
they
care
that
you
can't
use
flex
usd
with
any
wallet
other
than
theirs
and
I'm
pretty
sure
it's
causing
a
lot
of
trouble
with
their
wallet.
So
you
know
more
power
to
them.
Yeah.
B
B
Well,
I
saw
that
and
I
was
like
I've:
I've
been
in
the
ps,
psf,
slp,
indexer
telegram
and
I've
seen
the
chats
on
flex
usd.
I
understand
you
know
what's
going
on,
but
it's
like
a
lot
of
people
don't
get.
You
know
how
intensive
it
is
on
the
indexer
and
the
problems
you're
running
into
with
that,
and
it's
not
that
we
hate
it.
It's
just.
We
want
things
you
you
want
things
to
work
well
with
the
other
slp
tokens
right.
A
You're
right,
that's
what
I
mean
by
on
the
chain
like
it's
just
it's
just
if
you,
if
you
I
mean
it's
totally,
I
should
point
out
it's
totally
possible
to
run
rs
up
the
indexer
with
flex
usd,
but
your
database
will
be
four
times
bigger
and
it
will
take
four
times
longer
to
to
sync
the
database
yeah
or
to
sync
the
indexer.
So
I
I
didn't
feel
it
was
appropriate
to
force
that
extra
effort
on
every
single
user
of
the
indexer.
A
Instead,
just
by
default
it
blacklists
flex,
usd
anybody
can
add
it
in
if
they
want,
but
no
one
is
required
to
pay
this
computational
debt.
If,
if
flex
usd,
is
not
something
that
they
care
about.
E
The
interesting
thing
about
the
flex
usd
airdrops
is
like
all
these
numbers
of
utxos
right.
So
if
it
was
an
account
based
thing
like
an
evm
chain
or
something
well,
no
big
deal,
they
go
into
an
account
and
it
doesn't.
But
when
you're
a
ux
utxo
chain-
and
you
just
throw
that
much
out
there-
it
really
requires
all
of
the
hardware
to
go
crazy,
trying
to
deal
with
it
and
it
seems
like
it
seems
like
they.
They
got
to
start
thinking
about
that
at
some
point,
because
they're
going
to
run
into
something
it's.
A
Similar,
you
know
when,
when,
when
anybody
talks
about
negative
externalities,
which
is
an
economic
concept,
the
typical
analogy
is
like
the
factory
that
poisons
the
water,
and
then
you
have
a
town
downstream
drinking
that
poisoned
water.
That's
a
negative
extra
net
like
who,
whose
issue
is
it?
Well?
We
can't
stop
flex
usd
from
poisoning
this
water,
but
what
we
can
do
is
divert
their
water
somewhere
so
that
we
can
just
drink,
clean
water
and
that's
effectively
what
we've
chosen
to
do.
A
Yeah,
so
so
the
cash
strap
page
here
at
full
stack
dot
cash,
slash
cash
drop.
These
have
all
been
updated.
This
I
will
be
pushing
an
update
to
this
to
this
slp
indexer
database
snapshot
in
the
next
few
days.
That
will
include
all
the
flex
usd
transactions
and
all
the
nft
transactions
that
have
ever
been
created
right
now,
they're
just
there.
A
They
don't
even
exist
in
the
database,
so
I'm
syncing
one
right
now
and
it'll
have
that
new
feature
where
they're
marked
as
null,
and
so
your
wallet
can
at
least
identify
that
this
is
a
utxo
that
I
should
not
spend.
E
E
E
E
A
week
to
sync
from
genesis
the
rest
of
them
went,
you
know
the
bch
node
was
pretty
quick,
and
so
it
was.
But
I
I
understand
it
is
parsing
a
lot
of
data.
So
I
appreciate
that
you
were
doing
that
for
us.
Yeah
yeah
cheers
thanks.
B
A
A
Yes,
unfortunately,
he
wasn't
able
to
make
it
today.
So
this
is
just.
This
item
is
just
what
I
said
about
bch
utxo
get
now
it
puts
those
those
blacklisted
utxos
in
a
null
array.
A
Let's
see,
miner
bug
fix
an
ipfs
cord
okay,
so
I
found
a
bug
in
ipfs
cord
and
this.
This
library
is
like
this
small
critical
piece
of
our
infrastructure,
because
it's
what
allows
all
of
these
computers
to
coordinate
over
ipfs
and
what
was
happening
is
that
it
was
every
the
way.
The
way
all
the
all
the
ipfs
nodes
communicate
is
that
they
have
a
database
called
an
orbit
date
orbit
db
database
that
they
all
share,
and
so
anytime
somebody
wants
to
communicate
with
somebody.
A
They
drop
the
encrypted
message
into
the
orbit
database
for
that
peer,
and
then
all
the
peers
like
coordinate
to
to
they
all
work
together,
to
get
the
message
to
that
peer
and
to
prevent
these
databases
from
growing
too
big.
They
they're
supposed
to
be
abandoned
every
hour
and
a
new
database
created
and
because
they're
just
they're
just
there
really,
because
what
happens
is
what
you
find
is
peers
on
ipfs.
A
They
don't
just
stay
connected,
they're,
constantly
falling
off
and
reconnecting
yeah,
and
so
these
these
orbit
databases
are
what
allows
the
the
peer
to
get
the
message
if
they
were
offline
at
the
moment
when
it
was
trying
to
come
through,
you
know
people
will
be
like.
Oh
hey,
this
message
arrived
for
you
while
you
were
gone
and,
and
so
that
was
just
causing
the
problem
as
your
as
your
node
stayed
online
for
a
long
period
of
time.
A
It
would
just
accumulate
these
these
databases
and,
more
importantly,
these
pub
sub
connections,
and
so
it
was
just
growing
and
growing
growing.
So
I
just
fixed
this
bug,
which,
which
properly
deletes
and
disconnects
the
the
the
older
databases
so
kind
of
an
important
thing,
so
so
there's
another
good
reason
to
update
ipfs,
bch
wallet,
server
service
or
the
ipfs
bch
wallet
consumer
or
the
circuit
relays.
A
Those
things
all
use
ipfs
cord.
So
it's
a
good
time
to
update
those
bch
wallet-
consumer,
oh
yeah.
So
so
I
think
you
guys
are
familiar
with
bchjs.
That's
our
sort
of
go-to
core
javascript
library,
bch
consumer
is
a
javascript
library,
so
bch
consumer
bchjs
is
to
bch
api.
A
A
And
so,
if
you
go
to
this
this
minimal
or
if
you
go
to
npmjs
and
download
this
this
package
in
the
readme,
I've
got
instructions
on
how
to
instantiate
it.
How
to
check
a
balance.
Utxos,
send
a
transaction.
Get
transaction
history,
get
details
about
a
transaction,
look
up
a
public
key
for
an
address
which
is
used
for
intent
encryption.
A
This
is
all
free,
this
is
leveraging
our
collective
community
global
back-end
infrastructure,
and
so
this
is
free
if
people
want
to
write
apps
and
for
the
bitcoin
cash
blockchain,
and
they
don't
want
to
pay
for
anything.
This
is
the
library
they
should
use
awesome
yeah
this
will.
This
will
tap
into
our
community
infrastructure.
B
Well,
I
think
it's
it's
great,
the
more
that
we
can
use
ipfs
and
you
know
as
more
and
more
people
use
ifs
it.
It's
gonna
get
better
and
better,
and
I
love
that
that
we're
doing
this
and
I
look
forward
to
finding
ways
to
integrate
this
into
business.
B
For
those
who
are
looking
to
start
a
business
out
there
figuring
this
stuff
out
would
be
great
because
they're
going
to
be
so
many
businesses
that
want
to
onboard
into
the
crypto
universe,
it's
more
than
just
cryptocurrency,
but
there
there
will
be
a
huge
business
opportunity
just
for
people
that
specialize
in
taking
this
older
business
and
bringing
them
into
the
future
of
technology
through
stuff
like
the
ipfs
core
library
and
bchjs.
A
Yeah
so
just
to
I
wanted.
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
point
out
here
is
in
this
section
on
instantiation,
so
by
default.
It'll
use
this,
which
freebch.fullstack.cache
just
like
a
five
dollar
vps
that
I
have
set
up,
which
will
route
traffic
to
one
of
what
one
of
the
global
backends
on
the
network.
And
but
if
you
are
running
your
own
instance
of
ipfs
vch
wallet
consumer,
you
can
point
this
library
at
that
one,
and
so
you
can
use
your
own
local
infrastructure.
So
just
to
sort
of
refresh
this
is
our
web3
cache
stack.
A
So
we've
got
this
global
backend
we've
got
the
local
backend,
which
is
ipfs
bch
wallet
consumer,
which
is
connecting
to
the
global
backend
through
ipfs,
and
then
this
bch
consumer
library
sort
of
goes
goes
right
in
here.
It
would
be
the
very
first
front,
frontend
library
that
you
would
use
and
you
connect
it
to
ipfs
bch
wallet
consumer
either
by
default,
you'll
use,
freebch.fullstack.cache
or
if
you're
running
your
own
local
backend.
You
can
just
change
the
url
to
this
and
you'll
connect
to
your
your
locally
running
instance,
so
that
you're
not
like.
B
So
could
a
a
business
if
they
want
to
accept
tokens
or
accept
bch.
This
way
they
could
run
their.
I
could
set
up
one
of
those
400
machines
in
their
business.
That's
running
the
the
cash
stack
and
they
could
set
it
to
their
local
host
right
so
that
as
transactions
come
through
they're
processing
them
their
node
and
then
sending
them
to
the
blockchain
and
so
and
then
they
could
potentially
take
that
service
and
sell
it
to
businesses
around
them.
A
Yeah,
like,
if
you
I
mean
and
in
the
one
business
could
certainly
do
that.
But
if
someone
like
you
wanted
to
act
as
a
sort
of
I.t
specialist
for
your
local
community
and
local.
A
You
know
anyone
can
set
this
up
and
set
up
a
domain.
Just
like
I
did
and
again
like
this
is
like
a
five
dollar
a
month,
cost
and
and
then
and
then
you
know,
and
then
all
they
need
is
the
url
and
then
and
then,
if
anything
goes
wrong,
they
can
call
you
or
email
you
and
you're
in
charge
of
that
global
backend
and
keeping
that
running
and
all
their
software
needs
is
the
right
url.
B
B
A
All
right,
my
nephew
is
eight
and
it
was
so
funny
to
see
his
eyes
light
lit
up.
When
I
told
him
I'm
like,
I
gave
him
fifty
dollars
for.
A
B
Exactly
and
so
it's
it's
great
to
see
that-
and
you
know,
I'm
I'm
hoping
that
these
younger
kids
can
see
this
as
business
opportunities,
because
we
don't
live
in
a
world
anymore.
Where
you
know
you
go
to
college
and
you
get
this
steady
job
and
like
it
doesn't
work
that
way
anymore,
I
say:
go
out
and
start
a
business
and
here's
a
great
way
to
do
it.
You
know
get
a
lot
of
experience
at
the
same
time,
all
right
I'll,
shut
up
and
let
you
keep
talking.
A
I
think
we're
almost
through
this
so
yeah
it
was
bch
consumer
library,
quick
update
on
the
token
decks.
Gary
has
completed
two
of
the
three
phases
of
the
swap
trade,
so
you
can
make
an
offer
and
you
can
take
an
offer
and
then
the
third
phase
is
accepting
an
offer.
The
original
maker
accepts
the
final
offer,
so
he's
working
on
that
right
now,
daniel's
starting
on
the
graphical
user
interface.
A
So
the
way
this
is
going
to
roll
out
there
won't
be
some
global
website
that
you
go
to
in
order
to
trade
tokens,
because
that
would
be
like
way
too
sketchy
from
a
legal
standpoint.
This
is
going
to
be
software
that
you
run
on
your
own
computer
and
the
graphical
interface
is
going
to
be
in
a
web
page
again,
you
run
on
your
own
computer
and
everything
is
on
your
own
computer
and
and
then
we
use
these
protocols
to
for
traders
to
communicate.
So
so
that's
just
want
to
set
expectations.
B
A
And
yeah
so
hopefully
I'm
hoping
to
get
as
much
progress
as
we
can
in
the
next
couple
months
and
then
mostly
just
focused
on
avalanche
and
then
we'll
I'll.
Take
that
software
and
fork
it
the
graphical
user
interface
and
everything
over
it
to
ecash
and
and
then
and
then
we
need
to
build
a
bridge
from
ecash
to
avalanche.
B
Once
you
do
that,
we're
like
we
have
a
channel
the
metaverse
watchers
on
discord.
We
started
as
like
roots,
app
change,
the
name
here
and
there,
but
we
are
going
to
do
that,
live
so
for
anybody
that
wants
to
watch
that
once
that's
up
we're
going
to
create
tokens,
we're
going
to
swap
them
on
avalanche
and
then
we're
going
to
also
take
them
across
the
bridge.
I've
been
wanting
to
cross
that
bridge.
A
A
To
go
across
yeah
yep
yep,
it's
that's
a
big
difference
between
code,
complete
and
production,
ready,
oh
yeah.
I
know.
A
Oh
okay
and
then
finally
yeah
sam,
just
surprised
us
with
the
screenshot.
He
has
been
working
on
a
browser
extension
so.
C
A
Mean
this
was
literally
like
10
minutes
like
10
minutes
before
we
started
the
this
this
broadcast.
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
playing
with
that,
I
mean
look
at
this:
he's
even
got
the
psf
logo
in
the
browser
extension.
A
A
Yeah
yeah,
it's
awesome.
I
can't
wait
to
play
with
this
thing
so
yeah,
it
just
looks
like
it's
a
prototype.
It's
just
a
screenshot
but
yeah
like
I
didn't
think
it'd
be
that
hard
to
to
to
do
a
browser
extension.
It's
just
one
of
those
things
that
was
like
so
far
down
the
pipeline,
like
I
have
never
been
able
to
even
entertain
getting
into
so
I'm.
This
is
the
kind
of
initiative.
B
This
is
great,
just
yeah.
Thank
you,
sam,
thank
you
and
you
can.
You
could
create
rudimentary
nfts
with
this.
You
know
if
you
just
put
the
decimal
to
zero
for
people
out
there,
yeah.
A
This,
this
create
token,
is
actually,
if
you
go
to
wallet.fullstack.cache
right
now,
it's
there,
but
it
doesn't
work
where
this.
A
That
this
work
is
being
funded
by
launchpad
ip
and
and
so
that's
something
that
daniel's
working
on.
But
you
still.
B
Can't
have
the
ability
you
still
can
create
it
with
the
the
bch
js.
Examples
live
repository
right,
yep.
C
B
A
So
short
and
sweet
today
is
great
yeah.
Is
there
anything
that
you
guys
would
like
to
discuss.
B
Well,
you
know
stewie
and
I
have
been
doing
episodes
every
week
and
we're
doing
episodes
on
the
metaverse
nfts
stuff
like
that
and
really
taking
a
deep
dive.
So
anybody
that
is
interested
in
that
stuff.
We
have
a
discord,
metaverse,
watchers
and
I'm
sure
steyn
can
drop
an
invite
to
that
and
the
psf
social
chat
so
yeah.
We
we
talk
about
what's
going
on
in
crypto
and
then
we
get
into
code.
B
So
we
have
been
more
on
the
ethereum
and
evm
contract
side,
but
I'm
waiting
for
this
work
to
get
done
with
the
psf
so
that
we
can
dive
into
the
bch
avex
and
ecast
side
as
well.
So.
A
Nice
yeah
yeah
I've
been
watching
those
twitter
feeds.
You
guys
have
put
out
a
lot
of
videos,
yeah.
C
The
thing
that
now
aaron
mentioned
is
this
metaverse
watchers
club
discord
and
I'm
trying
to
keep
it
simple.
So
we
will
talk
about
three
stuff,
nft,
dao
and
coding.
There
will
be
no
giveaways,
trivia,
stuff
and
stuff
like
this
on
so
like
on
the
coding
stuff.
Everything
is
okay.
I
just
put
in
here
now
the
the
hackathons,
because
they
coming
very
frequently
so
this
is
a
nice
place
to
have
them
on
one
list
and
you
can
shoot
some
projects
if
you
have
something-
and
this
is
all
about
coding-
now
still
nothing
there.
C
I
just
want
to
mention
this
juno
network,
it's
one
of
the
gems
for
for
this
week
you
know
they're,
like
dao,
for
interoperable
contracts
on
the
cosmos
blockchain,
so
they
but
they're
very
focused
on
dao
stuff.
So
this
week,
in
the
previous
week,
they
created
several
very
nice
services.
If
you
like
dao,
it
was
like
juno
mint.
I
think
you
can
create
your
token,
like
with
just
a
small
form.
C
Daw
for
everybody,
so
just
click
on
the
button.
You
have
dao
with
your
own
token,
with
multisig
wallet
with
proposals,
everything
so
very,
very
slick
interface,
also
like
nothing
fancy
just
boom
boom
boom,
and
everything
of
this
is
open
source.
They
have
everything
from
their
github
repository.
C
That's
why,
like
that
token,
was
doing
great.
C
Like
if
you,
if
you
take
a
look
on
the
this
token
price
list,
only
these
guys
are
green,
so
everybody's,
like
very
excited
about
them,
but
see
this
one
is
how
one
dao
looks.
So
I
have
some
proposals
they
executed.
When
you
make
a
new
proposal,
you
can
attach
this
to
spend
some
money
or
to
meet
new
stuff
or
something,
and
you
just
vote
with
you-
stake,
stake
tokens
and
yeah.
Just
this
one
simple,
very,
very,
very
nice.
A
C
But
I
told
you
like
aaron
broke
me
with
his
shows,
so
now
I'm
all
nft.
So,
but
what
I
found
interesting
was
somebody
mentioned.
You
should
treat
every
nft
like
a
company
not
like
an
art
so
because
recently
I
also
want
to
see
issued
my
my
own,
very,
very
fancy.
Pictures
on.
C
Yeah
but
but
what
changed
my
perspective
was:
every
nft
is
a
dub
or
company,
but
because
it's
distributed
means
every
nft
set
down
means
it's
not
what
they
like
their
art.
But
what
is
what
kind
of
services
is
connected
to
this
nft?
Yes,.
B
C
For
example,
that's
why
I
first
subscribed,
for
I
don't
know
how
many
like,
I
think,
10
of
this
discord
stuff
everybody
is
there
like
doing
something:
it's
crazy
work
like
wild
jungle,
and
I
don't
have
the
money
or
time
or
anything
to
do
with
them.
But
after
this
I
start
focusing
on
the
the
on
the
discords
and
nfts,
which
are
connected
to
some
something
like
a
dao
which
are
doing
something
with
the
nft
and
this
one
start
to
become
interesting.
C
So
I
found
several
interesting
like
organizations
that
are
usually
using
this
dow
tools
and
what
they
are
mostly
doing
is
because
all
of
this
crazy
jungle
stuff
they
have
something
like
a
common
flow
of
a
release
of
these
tokens.
C
C
So
these
two,
for
example
here
these
are
some
indonesian
guys-
and
this
is
a
pretty
big
project
on
on
solana,
so
they're
providing
a
tools
for
you
can
check
this
grapes,
grapes,
grapes
network,
so
they
coincide
decentralized,
social
networking
but
they're
providing
gates
to
to
medium
sites.
C
So,
for
example,
you
have
your
discord
and
you
want
just
the
people
which
have
some
means
some
token
to
have
access
to
some
channels
and
depends
on
how
much
they
pay.
They
can
access
other
channels,
yeah.
C
Roles
like
all
of
these
discord,
this
about
assigning
roles
to
people,
so
this
I
think
now
it's
a
huge
niche
for
the
programmers
to
create
the
nft
access
to
media
gates.
C
So
this,
if
you
see
this
like
this
near
five
me
so
near
the
other
one
also
yeah.
C
Yeah
on
near
blockchain,
these
guys
they
they
created
very,
not
so
fancy
but
simple
dow,
and
they
they
sell
them
for
cheap
or
more
expensive.
C
It
depends
how
much
you
want
to
pay,
but
they
become
a
second
one
on
this
paris,
which
is
something
like
open
sea
on
near
they.
F
C
Second,
top
collection
with
their
just
simple
membership
dolls.
Maybe
I
can
found
them
here.
Maybe
not
everything
is
sold
at
this
one
near
nft
down,
so
you
just
send
several
like
levels,
vip
level,
one
two,
three,
four
four!
So
if
you
have,
for
example,
level
one
you
can
access
this,
this
is
this
channel.
B
A
Yeah
this
is
this
is
inspiring,
because
we
can
definitely
do
this
on
bitcoin
on.
You
know,
on
the
on
the
three
block
chains
that
we
support.
C
C
C
So
in
the
current
like
payment
model,
it
will
be
not
very
easy,
but
if
you
do
something
with
this
membership
nfts
and
some
gate,
it
will
be
like
bringing
some
money
to
the
pcf
dial
or.
A
Yeah,
so
you
know
this
isn't
the
same
thing
you're
talking
about,
but
on
a
similar
I've
been
thinking
about
writing
a
specification
for
this
idea.
That's
been
going
around
my
head,
where
it
really
doesn't
have
anything
to
do
with
nfts,
but
it's
similar
in
how
they're,
using
nfts
here
to
control,
essentially
a
paywall
where
so
right,
so
fullstack.cache
right
now
used
as
jot
tokens
to
control
the
rate
limit
access.
In
a
jot
token,
it's
part
of
the
web3
standard
and
what
it
is,
is
it's
the
it's?
A
It's
just
a
json
object
and
part
of
it's
encrypted.
It's
like
a
self-certified
thing.
We
could
do
a
similar.
I
was
thinking
about
people
who
are
donating
infrastructure
to
the
community
by
running
a
global
backend.
A
One
way
we
could
sort
of
very
indirectly
make
people
pay
for,
for
access
to
or
maybe
premium
access
would
be
something
like
a
jot
token.
Where
in
the
header
you
would
pass
an
ipfs
hash
to
cid
and
that
cid
would
resolve
into
a
json
object.
That
would
have
an
address,
a
signed
message
and
a
tx
id
which
would
show
that,
like
you
burned
like
one
psf
token,
and
that
gives
you
access
to
any
any
computer
that
that
honors
the
system
would
give
you
access
for
like
24
hours.
A
After
that
token
burn
happened,
and
so
it's
it's
like
a
drop
token
in
that
you
would
pass
something
in
the
http
header.
But
it's
not
like
a
jot
token.
That's
pretty
much
where,
where
it
ends,
but
basically
it
would
just
be
a
very
concise
piece
of
json
data
with
three
key
values
and
it
would
allow
a
computer.
A
You
know
running
a
global
backend
to
verify
that
this
address
owns.
You
know
did
in
fact
make
this
transaction
and
they
did
in
fact
burn
a
token
so,
like
okay
go
for
it,
so
it'd
be
a
way
to
to
grant
access,
and
that
you
know
I
was
thinking
in
terms
of
like
you
know,
api
calls,
but
I
mean
that's.
Essentially
all
this
is
or
that's
essentially
all
the
paywall
is
so
any
sort
of
paywall
application
could
could
use
that.
But
I
I
love.
C
We
may
be
talking
about
the
different
layers
you're
talking
more
about
the
like
lower
yeah
model,
yeah.
D
C
I'm
talking
more
about
the
more
application
level
where
we
can
restrict
taxes,
for
example.
I
I've
done
this
for
free
with
this.
I
opened
this
discord
mostly
to
experiment
with
it,
so
these
two
channels
on
the
bottom
they're
protected
with
nft,
with
this
unlock
protocol
that
we
talked
about
before
yeah.
C
This
one
can
be
done
pretty
easy,
it's
just
not
cool,
because
they
they
providing
all
of
the
tools.
And
it's
not.
I
don't
getting
any
profit
from
this,
but
if
we
have
some
dao
related
nft
like
these
guys,
they,
for
example,
the
other
one
that
I
wanted
to
show
they.
They
also
something
like
dao.
C
They
mentioned.
You
know
souls
dao.
They
also
have
this
dao
access
pass,
but
he's
giving
you
access
not
only
to
their
discord,
because
everybody
is
doing
this
one,
but
also
it's
giving
you
access
to
the
two
tools
that
they're
creating.
C
So
if
you
see
they
have
several
like
blockchain
related-
and
this
is
the.
A
Primary
the
primary
use
case
here
is
access
to
a
discord
channel.
C
Oh,
no,
that's
why
this
is
one
of
the
benefits,
but,
for
example,
if
you
want
to
use
some
of
their
tools,
they're
mostly
browser
related,
so
you
can
check
rarities
of
nfts
or
something
something
you
will
use
them
only
if
you
have
this
nft
pass.
B
Yeah,
let
me
piggyback
off
of
what
stoian's
saying,
because
I
do
like
this
is
part
of
where
my
company's
business
mall
is
gonna
head,
and
I've
learned
that
nfts
are
more
than
just
artwork.
It's
about
community
and
you're,
paying
to
be
a
part
of
community
and
different
levels
of
access
that.
So
how
does
this
work
in
a
brand
say?
You
are
a
a
furniture
manufacturer,
you
manufacture
hand,
crafted
furniture
and
you
sell
your
furniture
and
everybody
that
buys
your
furniture.
Like
you
say.
B
First
thousand
people
that
buy
this
chair
get
the
chair
nft.
So
it
could
be
an
nft
where
the
the
nft
itself
is
a
3d
object
of
a
chair.
You
can
3d
print,
it's
got
functionality,
you
can
take
it
in
the
metaverse,
but
the
nft
itself
gets
you
access
to
content.
Maybe
the
the
actual
builder
is
going
to
sit
down
and
he's
going
to
talk
about.
This
is
the
grit
of
sandpaper
I
use
this
is
the
lacquer
I
use
this.
B
Is
this
the
people
that
get
that
nft
are
concentrated
a
type
of
consumer
one
that
is
actually
interested
in
that?
And
it's
a
way
for
companies
to
verify
that
and
then
not
only
that,
but
if
that
becomes
valuable,
they
can
sell
their
access
to
other
people.
So,
like
a
better
idea
for
this
would
be
like
a
whiskey
company,
jack
daniels.
C
B
Release
an
nft
and
they
say
all
right-
we're
going
to
release
10
000
jack,
daniels,
nfts,
and
maybe
we're
going
to
do
it
randomly
so
check
your
bottle
cap
right,
something
like
that
and
then
you
get
these
nfts.
What
these
nfts
give
you
is.
If
you
come
to
the
jack
daniels
factory,
you
get
a
free
tour.
Through
you
get
free
whiskey,
you
get
the
chance
to
buy
merchandise
that
nobody
else
can
get.
You
get
the
chance
to
have
discussions
with
the
master
distiller.
B
That's
where
the
value
of
that
comes,
because
it's
about
building
community
and
what
I've
been
telling
people
is.
If
you
look
at
web
one
web,
one
was
very
much
a
one-way
street.
You
know.
Web
2
was
all
about
building
brands,
build
your
own
brand,
build
your
own
brand
with
this
product,
build
your
own
brand
as
a
person.
Web
3
is
all
about
building
communities
around
the
products.
So
instead.
C
B
Saying
we
got
a
product
here,
it's
like!
Let's
get
together,
let's
talk
about
the
product.
Let's
talk
about
you
you're
a
cook.
Let's
talk
about
different
way,
recipes,
different
pots
and
pans.
Let's
have
discussions
on
this
and
by
the
way,
here's
my
product,
because
what
what
happens
when
you
do
that
is
people
start
to
see
your
expertise?
They
start
to
trust
you.
B
They
start
to
say
you
know
what
I
don't
have
time
to
make
a
meal,
but
I
know
this
person
over
here
makes
a
great
meal
and
I'm
gonna
buy
from
them
in
in
my
time,
and
so
nfts
are
starting
to
shape
this
and,
like
stillian,
is
saying,
give
different
levels
of
access.
You
know
that
in
that.
A
Way,
you
know,
let
me
piggyback
on
what
you
just
said,
because
there's
something
I've
been
working
on
for
launchpad
ip,
that
it
is
this
this
this
I've
talked
in
the
past
about
the
slp
mutable
data
library,
which
is
gonna.
Allow
token
icons,
yeah.
B
A
We're
working
on
this,
this
is
sort
of
like
a
debug
tool
for
people
who
use
that
library.
It's
it's
not
it's.
It
will
be
here
at
token
token.fullstack.cache,
but
this
is
a
screenshot.
I'm
sharing
it's
not
functional
right
now
at
the
moment,
but
what
it'll
do
is
when
you
create
an
nft
we're
talking
about
so
that
mutable
data
spec,
is
all
about
creating
mutable
data,
changeable
data.
The
tokens
already
have
immutable
data.
A
So
what
this
tool
lets
you
do
is
in
an
slp
token,
there's
the
document
url
and
there's
the
document
hash
and
the
document
url
is
usually
like
the
website
of
the
company
that
issues
it.
But
if
that
document
url
is
instead
a
cid,
an
ipfs
hash
that
that
resolves
into
a
json
document
it'll
get
displayed
in
this
immutable
data
section
which
translation
error
daniel
called
it
in
immutable.
A
I
had
to
go
through
and
fix
all
of
his
all
of
his
code
comments
because
he
kept
going
immutable
and,
but
basically
so
like
what
you're
saying
about
you
know
the
carpenter
who
documents
like
the
the
grade
of
sandpaper
that
he
used,
like
I'm
thinking
like
jill
bliss
who's,
a
local
artist
that
I'm
working
with
she
does
these
mushroom
medleys,
and
so
this
in
this
immutable
data.
She
could
put
you
know
the
date.
It
was
created
the
types
of
mushrooms
that
went
into
this
collage.
A
You
know
any
other
sort
of
details
about
the
art.
That's
like
never
going
to
change,
because
it's
about
the
art
itself
and
then
in
the
mutable
data
section
is
the
same
thing
that
that's
that's
where
that
that
slp
immutable
data
library
comes
in
that
goes
into
the
document
hash
field
and
creates
a
breadcrumb
trail
that
eventually
resolves
into
a
json
document,
the
difference
being
that
json
document
can
be
updated
through
time,
and
so
that's
in
the
mutable
data
section
below.
A
So
what
you
just
said
like
is
like
this
is
this
is
sort
of
what
I've
been
working
on
in
terms
of
like
technically
realizing
that.
B
Oh
yeah,
and
so
like
it's
one
of
these
things
like
right
now,
how
do
you
monetize
your?
How
do
you
monetize
your
core
fan
base
right,
say
you
have
a
facebook
group
or
you
have
a
telegram
or
you
have
a
discord.
How
do
you
separate
the
wheat
from
the
chaff?
B
Because
and
if
you
have
a
product
you
probably
have
like
between
100
and
a
thousand
people
that
are
just
your
core
fan
base
and
would
purchase
an
nft
to
not
have
the
other
voices
and
have
people
that
are
just
concerned
with
you
know
this
thing,
maybe
maybe
they
are
like
to
use
your
friend
as
an
example,
maybe
they're
like
an
artist
and
creators
that
way-
and
they
just
want
to
talk
to
those
people
and
keep
that
discussion
out
that
then
she
wants
to
monetize
this
in
such
a
way
that
she
can
promote
her
product
this.
B
I'm
I'm
done
with
this
group.
I've
learned
what
I
want
to
learn,
I'm
going
to
put
the
membership
token
up
so
like
to
use
the
jack
daniels
example.
Again,
maybe
I
got
the
jack
daniels
token
for
free
well,
not
for
free,
but
I
bought
a
bottle.
I
got
the
token
the
token's
now
worth
ten
thousand
dollars
to
be
in
this
club.
B
C
Yeah
it's
difficult,
however,
with
tokens
like
this
one
to
implement
like
to
automate
some
payments
like,
for
example,
in
this
case,
with
the
artists
to
implement
royalties.
When
this
token.
F
F
C
Split,
for
example,
if
she's
not
the
only
owner,
but
if
we
all
of
us
own
this
nft
automatically
to
guess
part
of
this
royalties
without
having
fighting.
Why
you
not
pay
me
something
like
this
now.
A
Yeah,
so
I'm
glad
you
brought
that
up.
So
let
me
share
that
screenshot
again,
so
you
guys
can
see
visually
what
I'm
talking
about.
But
the
idea
here
this-
and
this
goes
back
to
this
trust
merchant
idea,
which
I
think
is
aaron.
I
I
got
from
aaron-
is
if,
if
this
was
an
nft,
so
imagine
that
little
circle
icon
was
an
actual
like
artwork
piece.
The
the
immutable
data
is
fixed
once
the
token's
created
and
nobody
can
change
that.
A
The
and
and
that
could
include
the
artwork
piece,
but
right
now
we're
putting
that
artwork
in
immutable
data.
A
But
the
there's
there's
two
wallet
addresses
here:
there's
the
address
that
holds
the
token
and
then
there's
the
address
that
controls
the
mutable
data,
and
so
she
would
retain
that
private
key
for
that
address,
and
so,
as
this
artwork
travels
around
and
changes
hands
and
gets
sold
in
secondary
markets
that
mutable
data
acts
as
like
a
certificate
of
authenticity,
and
they
have
to
come
to
her
to
update
the
data
because
she's
the
only
one
that
can
update
that
data
to
reflect
like
the
current
ownership
of
the
nft.
E
A
C
B
A
B
Yeah,
it's
it's
a
definitely
about
building
in
a
decentralized
banner
understanding
where
things
are
headed,
I
mean
the
meta
versus
well,
it's
not
new.
I
mean
like
I.
If
you
watch
the
last
roots-up
episode
that
story,
and
I
did
last
friday,
I
actually
went
through
a
metaverse
presentation.
B
I
put
together
it's
a
great
crash
course
for
anybody
and
I'll
drop
it
in
the
psf
social
and
but
you
can
really
get
an
idea
of
how
all
these
technologies
came
about,
how
they're
all
converging
to
make
what
we
have
now
from
crypto
to
photogrammetry,
to
lidar
to
ambisonic,
audio
and
vr,
like
all
those
things
are
converging,
and
I
think
it
might
be
a
snow
crash
course
right
since.
E
B
It's
a,
but
so
it
it'll
give
you
a
good
overview
on
what
that
is
and
where
it's
headed
and
we're
still
developing.
Now
we
don't
know
where
it's
where
it's
going
to
go.
There's
great
groups
out
there
like
mona
dot
gallery,
has
a
wonderful.
B
They
have
a
unity
asset
that
you
can
load
in
and
and
then
create
worlds,
and
you
can
populate
them
with
nfts,
and
this
I
I
do
think
I
keep
saying
this
what's
going
to
happen
in
the
future,
as
these
bridges
get
established,
nft
creators
and
community
creators
will
go
to
the
cheapest
chain
to
produce
these
things
it.
A
B
Right
and
let's
go
ahead
and
do
the
outro
and
for
anybody
out
there
be
in
the
chat,
talk
to
us.
I
know
I've
seen
richie
in
the
chat
he's
been
building
a
music
app.
It
looks
awesome.
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
really
look
into
it,
but
that's
that
is
great.
B
That
he's
doing
that
and
sam
has
been
just
on
fire,
so
great
great
to
see
that
sam
and
yeah,
if,
if
you
guys
want
to
check
out,
we
should
be
doing
another
roots
up
or
metaverse,
podcasts
or
stream
tomorrow
morning
around
this
time,
if
you're
cool
with
that
stoian
and
then
the
story
is
typing
away
and
yeah.
B
Oh
okay,
we
got
vr
stuff,
all
right
story
anymore.
Anything
you
want
to
show
us
man.
Let
me
get
to
your
screen.