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From YouTube: Committee on Commerce and Economic Development 6-2-2022
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The Committee on Commerce & Economic Development of the Council of the City of Philadelphia held a Public Hearing on Thursday, June 2, 2022 to hear testimony on the following item:
220424
Resolution authorizing the Committee on Commerce and Economic Development to hold hearings to examine the economic impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on professional services, specifically barbershops and beauty salons; to assess the impact of the SABER grants administered by the Commerce Department; and to explore the creation of a new specialized grant program for barbershops and beauty salons.
B
Due
to
the
continuing
threat
of
public
health,
health
and
covert
19
city
council
committees
are
currently
meeting
remotely
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teams
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B
C
B
Thank
you,
mr
mcmonachel,
exploring
the
committee
as
president
and
the
hearing
is
now
called
to
order.
This
is
a
public
hearing
on
the
committee
of
commerce
and
economic
development.
Regarding
resolution
number
two:
two:
zero.
Four,
two:
four,
mr
mubarak,
will
you
please
read
the
title
of
the
resolution.
B
Resolution
number
two:
two:
zero.
Four.
Two
four
resolution
authorizing
the
committee
on
commerce
and
economic
development
to
hold
hearings
to
examine
the
economic
impact
of
the
covet
19
pandemic
on
professional
services,
specifically
barber
shops
and
beauty
salons,
to
assess
the
impact
of
the
saber
grants
administered
by
the
commerce
department
and
to
explore
the
creation
of
a
new
specialized
grant
program
for
barbershops
and
beauty.
Salons.
B
Before
we
begin
the
hearing,
testimony
from
the
witnesses
we
have
for
today,
everyone
who
has
been
invited
to
the
meeting
to
testify
should
be
aware
that
this
is
a
public
hearing
being
recorded,
because
the
hearing
is
public
participants
and
viewers
have
no
reasonable
expectation
of
privacy.
By
continuing
to
be
in
the
meeting,
you
are
consenting
to
being
recorded
additionally
prior
to
recognizing
members
for
the
questions
or
comments
they
have
for
the
witnesses.
B
I
will
know
for
the
record
at
this
time
that
we
will
use
the
chat
feature
available
in
microsoft
teams
to
allow
members
to
signify
that
they
wish
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be
recognized
in
order
to
comply
with
the
sunshine
act,
and
the
chat
feature
must
only
be
used
for
this
purpose
before
we
call
the
panel
mr
mcmonaval,
do
we
have
any
comments
from
any
of
the
board
members
councilmember
parker?
Did
you
want
to
make
a
statement
before
we
started.
F
Yes,
thank
you
so
very
much
chairman
squilla.
Let
me
just
start
by
saying
that
traditionally-
and
you
mentioned
this-
a
chairman
squilla
prior
to
us,
starting
that
barbershops
and
beauty
salons-
particularly
black
and
brown
own
barbershops
and
beauty
salons,
they
have
served
as
more
than
just
cosmetic
institutions.
F
At
the
onset
of
the
covet
19
pandemic,
barbershops
and
beauty
salons
suffered
tremendous
economic
setbacks
and
businesses
were
forced
to
close
these
types
of
professional
services.
They
were
severely
limited
due
to
the
structure
of
their
service
delivery
in
open
spaces,
with
with
little
or
no
ability
to
isolate.
According
to
the
bureau
of
labor
statistics
between
february
and
april
of
2020,
the
number
of
jobs
at
employment-based
salons
plunged
a
whopping
84,
even
as
the
industry
began
to
gradually
recover.
F
F
F
F
They
observed
the
economic
impact
of
the
pandemic
on
this
particular
industry,
and
then
they
acted
the
commerce
department
in
partnership
with
the
office
of
community
empowerment
and
opportunity.
Ceo,
I
think
mitch,
is
here
see
karen
a
vested
in
entrepreneur,
works
and
ppia
established
the
salon
and
barbershop
emergency
relief
program.
We
refer
to
it
as
saber,
which
provided
159,
hair
care
businesses
with
small
grants.
F
Now
this
program
was
designed
to
provide
financial
relief
to
businesses
in
the
hair
care
industry
that
were,
among
the
most
adversely
impacted
by
the
city's
sort
of
pandemic
related
restrictions.
However-
and
this
is
important
due
to
the
limited
resources
in
the
sabre
program,
access
was
limited
to
just
17
zip
codes
in
the
city.
Excluding
an
extensive
number
of
business
owners
who
were
equally
at
risk
of
losing
their
businesses,
their
storefronts,
their
clientele
and,
to
be
quite
frank,
lifelong
investments,
barbers
and
stylists.
F
They
continue
to
navigate
the
pandemic,
they're
hoping
for
an
economic
recovery
but
they're
still
facing
challenges
such
as
inflation
and
supply
chain
issues.
You
know
think
about
those
who
are
saying.
Can
I
get
gas
or
do
I
go
get
a
cut?
You
know
many
have
not
reached
pre
pandemic
revenue
levels
and
they
continue
to
face
challenges:
tackling
professional
and
personal
debt
that
they
accumulated
during
the
pandemic,
while
trying
to
rebuild
their
clientele,
rebranding
their
business
services
and
fighting
to
support
their
families,
barber
shops
and
beauty
salons.
F
They
are
instrumental
in
communities,
they
help
stabilize
neighborhood
business
corridors
in
their
roles
as
destination
services,
bringing
people
to
quarters
who
then
patronize
other
nearby
businesses,
including
apparel
shops
and
restaurants,
which
ultimately
have
a
positive
impact
on
the
overall
stability
of
our
neighborhood-based
commercial
quarters.
So,
as
we
move
forward
from
the
covet
19
pandemic,
although
cases
are
going
up
so
I
won't
say
forward
I'll
say
through
and
it's
economic
fallout,
the
city
must
explore.
F
Mr
chairman,
new
ways
to
support
these
institutions
special,
thank
you
to
chairman
squilla
to
your
team
and
who's
clerking
for
us
today,
sean
mcgonagall-
and
I
look
forward,
mr
chairman,
to
hearing
from
these
business
owners
firsthand
what
it's
like
to
walk
in
their
shoes
and
why
the
city
must
make
investing
in
them
a
priority.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
F
B
B
D
B
B
G
B
D
My
name
is
karen
fegley
deputy
commerce
director,
I'm
here
to
testify
today
on
resolution
number
two,
two
zero
four
two
four
I
feel
like
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
repeat
some
of
what
the
councilwoman
parker
already
said
and,
and
I
think
so
is
and
and
mitch-
and
I
are
also
talking
from
some
of
the
same
points
so
I'll-
try
to
bridge
a
little
bit.
You
know
as
a
result
of
mandated
business
closures
and
reopening
restrictions.
D
As
council
knows,
and
with
your
support,
commerce
has
been
involved
in
multiple
business
relief
programs
since
march
2020,
including
a
citywide
small
business
relief
fund,
a
citywide,
restaurant
and
gym
relief
program,
a
statewide
small
business
relief
grant
a
statewide
hospitality
industry
relief
program
and
in
2021
commerce,
partnered
with
the
office
of
community
empowerment
and
opportunity
vested
in
an
entrepreneur
works
to
develop
saber.
The
concept
and
funding
for
sabre
came
from
our
colleagues
at
ceo.
D
The
recipients,
as
was
stated,
comprised
159
business
owners.
They
were
pre-selected
from
a
pool
of
businesses
that
had
already
applied
for
the
city
and
state
programs,
and
that's
because
we
didn't
want
small
businesses
to
have
to
fill
out
yet
another
application
without
confidence
that
they
would
be
awarded.
The
eligible
businesses
also
had
to
be
located
in
one
of
17
priority.
D
Zip
codes
with
with
the
highest
poverty
rates
entrepreneur
works
vested
in,
and
the
pa
professional
image
alliance
were
critical
in
guiding
the
businesses
to
access
these
relief
dollars
of
the
159
awardees
99
were
minority
owned
and
60
were
women-owned
businesses
saber
was
certainly
very
necessary
and
well
received.
However,
there
were
challenges
as
the
complexity
of
the
industry.
D
D
B
Karen,
thank
you
so
much
for
your
for
your
testimony
and
one
just
quick
question
before
we
go
to
mitch
during
the
process
of
the
pandemic
and
when
we
were
reaching
out
to
a
lot
of
these
small
businesses.
Did
we
see
that
these
any
of
these
small
businesses
were
able
to
take
advantage
of
that?
Or
is
there
something
that
we
could
have
done
differently
to
maybe
have
attracted
the
interest,
or
at
least
the
knowledge,
or
to
share
the
knowledge
of
how
to
apply
to
these
programs
that
we
had
during
the
pandemic?
Yeah.
D
I
think
we
we,
I
mean
we
certainly
attempted
with
with
everyone,
and
we
learned
as
we
went
about
some
sort
of
tips
and
tricks
about
doing
it,
but
you
have
to
build
in
that
time
and
and
like
sort
of
paid
assistance
for
outreach,
you
need
folks
who
can
really
go
out.
I
mean
we
knew
before
the
pandemic
that
businesses,
small
businesses,
don't
always
have
all
their
paperwork
together
and
so
forth.
So
this
this
was
certainly
eye-opening
for
many
of
them
and
we
have.
D
There
are
a
lot
of
services
that
exist
for
that,
but
it
just
needs
to
be
really
on
the
ground
and
it
needs
to
be
from
trusted
sources
from
folks
who
are
sort
of
their
colleagues
or
peers
in
the
industry
or
or
you
know,
part
of
some
ident.
You
know
thing
that
they
identify
with
whether
it's
a
neighborhood
organization
or
an
ethnic
or
cultural
organization
or
a
trade
organization,
and
and
we
need
time
I
mean
we
did
this
right
from
beginning
like
it
should
never
be.
First
come
first
served
right.
D
B
But
it's
also,
we
have
a
lot
of
these
small
businesses
that
aren't
a
part
of
a
commercial
carter,
so
maybe
somehow
as
commerce
as
we
work
with
commerce
to
build
some
type
of
link
or
form
with
these
businesses
that
are
not
part
of
a
commercial
car
that
actually
send
that
information
out
to
them
and
get
to
them.
How
do
we
then
reach
them?
I
don't
know
the
answer,
but
maybe
that's
something
we
could
work
on.
You
know
throughout
the
summer
to
be
able
to
better
adapt
to
that.
So
thank
you
so
much
we'll.
B
H
It's
a
pleasure
to
be
here
today,
like
karen
said,
you
know,
I
feel,
like
I'm
a
part
of
the
choir
today,
because
we're
all
we're
all
singing
on
key
here
about
this
sort
of
very
important
issue.
So
some
of
my
comments
today
might
complement
some
of
what
you've
already
heard
today,
just
as
a
reminder,
ceos
the
city's
community
action
agency
and
our
mission
is
to
provide
leadership
on
economic
issues
of
justice,
advancing
racial
equity
and
inclusive
growth,
so
that
all
philadelphians
might
share
in
the
city's
prosperous
future.
H
H
H
I
employed
the
commerce
department
for
how
swiftly
they
acted
in
those
early
days
to
get
financial
assistance
out
to
shuttered
businesses
on
our
neighborhood
commercial
corridors,
and
so
ceo
wanted
to
contribute
to
those
efforts,
and
so
we
allocated
a
million
of
our
federal
community
services.
Blank
community
services
block
grant
dollars.
Our
cares
act
funding
to
create
the
sabre
program.
H
Research
before
the
pandemic
had
already
showed
that
businesses
owners
of
color
are
routinely
treated
worse
than
white
business
owners
when
applying
for
bank
loans,
leading
to
a
disparity
in
business
lending
and
a
lack
of
adequate
capital.
Investment
in
businesses
of
color,
giving
this
inequitable
treatment
and
access
we
wanted
to
support
those
business
owners
who
were
already
at
a
disadvantage
and
needed
investment
to
weather
this
unprecedented
crises.
H
As
you
know,
salons
and
barbershop
has
a
higher
percentage
of
employees
of
color
than
most
other
businesses
in
all
businesses.
In
the
us,
only
about
12
percent
of
employees
are
black
about,
18
percent
are
latino,
and
only
about
6
percent
are
asian.
As
you
can
see
from
the
chart.
My
testimony
a
whopping
39.4
percent,
the
barbershop
employees
are
latino
and
salons
and
barbershops
have
a
greater
share
of
black
and
asian
employees
as
compared
to
all
other
businesses.
H
H
So
there's
a
council
member
today
who
might
mention
that
we
we
often
see
each
other
in
the
barber
shop,
and
he
sees
me
with
my
son
there
and-
and
my
son
gets
his
hair
cut
by
the
same
guy,
who
cut
my
hair
for
fifth,
since
I
was
14
years
old
and
it's
important
to
have
such
a
space.
So
culturally,
as
a
lifelong
philadelphian.
H
B
Thank
you
mitch,
a
great
testimony
and
thank
you
for
your
work
here
before
we
go
into
questions.
I
see
that
we're
having
some
problem
with
a
couple
people
trying
to
to
log
in
council
support
has
asked
the
participants
to
try
to
log
in
again
if
they
could
do
that.
Hopefully
we
could
get
them
in.
If
not
let
us
know
and
council
support
will
work
at
least
on
them.
I
think
daryl
and
tania
tanya,
who
aren't
able
to
log
in
council
member
parker.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
mr
chairman,
one.
I
want
to
go
back
on
the
record
again
and
say
a
special
thank
you
to
both
karen
and
mitch
for
being
here
today,
each
of
your
respective
departments
have
been
heavily
vested.
You
know
in
this
issue.
I
appreciate
your
documenting
the
ingenuity
and
the
speed
through
which
the
city
responded
like
everything's,
not
right
and
everything's,
not
perfect,
but
when
we
do
get
something
right
right,
when
we
do
it
right
and
we
act
together
to
get
it
done.
F
F
That
was
the
purpose
of
my
wanting
to
make
sure
that
we
put
on
the
record
of
the
issues
that
were
brought
to
us,
that
we
use
this
budget
process
as
an
advocacy
effort
to
secure
additional
funding
to
support
this
this
industry,
and
with
that
in
mind
karen,
you
said
the
important
thing
you
said:
listen
any
new
relief
funds
need
to
be
carefully
designed,
and
you
talked
about
three
important
things.
The
first
thing
you
said
was
administrative
staffing.
F
F
Every
time
I
hear
people
talk
about,
you
know
just
the
neighborhoods,
where
we
have
the
deepest
level
of
poverty.
In
my
mind
here
we
go,
you
know
pitting
the
have
nots
versus
those
who
have
just
a
little
bit
right
and-
and-
and
I
don't-
I
don't-
want
the
city
of
philadelphia
to
have
to
sort
of
penalize.
F
You
know
a
small
business
that
is
thriving
in
another
community
and
we
pit
them
against
one
another.
That's
what
I'm
hoping,
mr
chairman,
we
can
address
of
this
time,
because
so
many
people
and
neighborhoods
get
left
out
of
the
mix
karen
quantify
for
me
to
the
best
of
your
ability,
I'm
not
expecting
anything
exact
when
you
talk
about
administrative
staffing,
because
it
has
to
be
somebody's
job
at
commerce
to
manage
this.
D
D
In
some
cases
it
was
pidc
and
this
in
the
case
of
sabre,
we
used
to
invest
it
in
because,
as
you
know,
for
the
city
to
cut
those
checks,
would
you
know
to
cut
159
and
actually,
I
think,
we're
trying
to
talk
about
more
than
that.
That
would
be.
That
would
be
a
big
challenge
so
and
those
organizations
tend
to
get
some
percentage
of
of
what
the
total
dollar
amount
is
or
based
on
how
many
grants
they're
going
to
process.
H
Yes,
I
think
that's
a,
I
think,
that's
a
pretty
accurate
assumption.
I
I
think
that
you
know
part
of
karen's
comments
was
focusing
on
the
administrative
piece,
but
I
also
think
that
that
the
the
other
piece
in
which
he
talked
about
that
outreach
piece
is
extremely
important,
and
that
comes
at
a
at
a
cost
to
to
to
get
people
out
in
those
streets
and
vehicles
to
knock
on
doors,
to
expand
on
established
relationships
or
just
see,
seem
trusted
and
knowledgeable
of
the
issue
that
folks
can
respond
to.
F
F
Would
that
be
finding
an
entity
within
the
the
barbershop
beauty
salon
industry
that
would
then
be
funded
and
responsible
for
taking
a
message
about
the
availability
of
this
new
product
or
any
you
know
an
extension
of
the
product
that
we
have.
They
would
be
responsible
for
getting
it
to
people.
You
know
across
the
city
on
corridors
across
the
city
and
council,
member
squirler.
You
said
something
that
I
also
don't
think
about
a
lot
of
people
thought
about
that.
Some
of
the
salons
are
not
on
major
commercial
quarters.
F
Some
of
them
are
like
by
by
themselves
on
a
corner,
and
then
it's
just
residential
properties.
You
know
surrounding
them,
so
we've
got
to
make
sure
we
don't
leave
them
out.
So
what
is
that?
What
we
were
thinking-
and
we
were
thinking
about
the
barber
shop
and
beauty
salon?
You
know
trade
organization
that
we
would
fund
them
and
then
they
would
do
the
work
of
getting
to
them.
Is
that
what
we're
thinking.
D
D
There's
always
details
to
be
worked
out,
but
that's
all
that's
all
surmountable
yeah
and
you
know
what
we've
done
before
is
we
had
like
a
number
of
trusted.
I
mean
we
could
figure
it
out.
One
way
we
did
it
before
we
had
a
number
of
organizations
and
anybody
that
helped
somebody
with
an
application
was
then
eligible
like
got
reimbursed
on
the
back
end,
but
the
other
way
to
do
it
would
it
would
be
nice
to
maybe
fund
somebody
on
the
front
end
so
that
they
are
out
there
really.
D
H
F
So,
chairman
squirrel,
I
just
want
to
close
with
this
again.
Thank
you
mitch.
Thank
you
karen
for
expressing
your
sentiments
here
today.
The
last
part
of
karen's
testimony
karen
this
hit
me
when
you
talked
about
setting
that
criteria
for
eligibility
and
preference
to
ensure
that
the
funds
reach
the
target
audience
to
support
and
not
waste
the
time
of
our
vital
small
business
community
for
the
benefit
of
the
viewing
public
before
we
started.
F
Officially
this
morning
I
was
sharing
with
a
chairman
squilla
that
I
had
noticed
that
more
of
the
salons
that
were
chain
based
like
franchise
out-
and
I
mentioned
the
one
that
I
knew
of
and
I'm
sort
of
not
just
picking
on
this
one,
but
I
want
you
to
have
a
framework
of
what
I'm
describing
the
hair.
Cuttery
was
like
a
chain
that
you
could
see
in
strip
malls
across
the
city.
F
So
you
know
when
chairman
squirler,
when
you
acknowledge
very
early
on
that,
it
would
seem
like
the
bigger
guys,
were
much
more
prepared
had
their
taxes
in
order
there
all
of
their
records,
the
banking
in
order
they
were
prepped
to
apply
for
the
ppp
loans
and
everything
else
that
was
coming
out,
because
their
administrative
capacity
and
technical
capacity
was
at
a
different
level,
and
that
is
what
we
really
need
to
take
into
consideration
as
we
move
forward.
So
again,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
hearing
the
next
panel.
B
G
So,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
I
want
to
thank
of
this
first
panel
for
taking
a
deeper
dive
into
commercial
corridors
and
recognizing
the
importance
of
barbershops
and
beauty
salons.
It's
where
it
goes
down.
It
is
our
physical
dm.
If
you
would-
and
you
can
gain
information,
you
can
distribute
information
from
those
outlets,
so
they
are
far
more
than
just
small
businesses
and
places
where
people
get
haircuts
and
hairdos.
G
G
D
Yeah,
I
mean
you
know,
you're,
absolutely
right
and
commerce.
Like
I
said,
we've
been
working
on
these
issues
since
pre-pandemic
and-
and
I
won't
say
the
good-
I
don't
want
to
say
anything
good
thing
about
pandemic,
but
it
has
made
businesses
realize
that
they
need
that.
This
is
really
important.
So
we
have
a
number
of
service
providers
that
can
address
these
kinds
of
things
we
brought
on.
We
just
expanded
our
biz
coach
program,
which
is
the
one-on-one
service.
D
Now,
instead
of
one
term,
if
one
firm
we've
had
jt
goldstein
we're
going
to
add
another
firm
to
serve
more
businesses,
we
also
have
some
of
our
ta
providers,
who
have
accountants
and
bookkeepers
on
board
to
help
people
one-on-one
with
that.
So
we
really
encourage
people
to
call
us
at
commerce
our
office
of
business
services
215-683-2100,
and
we
can
hook
you
up
with
some
of
these
organizations
that
provide
this
kind
of
assistance.
G
The
one
thing
one
of
us:
it's
not
the
only
thing,
one
of
the
things
that
let
me
know
that
the
world
was
not
topsy.
Turvy
is
when
they
were
able
to
start
cutting
again
so
keeping
them
a
part
of
our
communities
is
an
essential
aspect
of
keeping
the
fiber
of
our
community
together.
So
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
B
B
We
have
I'll
just
read
the
next
three
names
and
if
they're
available
we'll
start
from
the
first
one,
ann
turner,
daryl,
thomas
and
talia
torres
and
we'll
start
with
you
and
then
we'll
go
down
just
say
state
your
name
for
the
record,
and
then
we
could
proceed
with
your
testimony
using
your
mr
chair.
Yes,
councilmember.
B
E
Yes,
come
on.
My
name
is
ann
turner,
I'm
the
owner
of
head
of
your
salon,
I'm
also
the
president
of
the
pa
professional
image
alliance,
which
is
the
beauty
and
barber
alliance.
Some
of
our
team
leads
have
been
trying
to
get
on
since
they
were
actually
on
at
8
45,
so
some
of
them
were
on
early
and
I
don't
believe
they
could
get
on
now.
So
these
are
some
of
the
things
that
have
happened
to
us
as
small
businesses.
E
As
an
example,
we've
been
pushed
out
like
this
today,
some
of
our
team
leads
we're
going
to
testify.
I'm
not
sure
if
they're
able
to
do
so,
but
I
wanted
to
say
some
of
the
things
that
I
appreciate
miss
karen
from
the
commerce
department
we've
worked
with
the
vested
in
as
well
as
entrepreneur
works.
There
have
been
major
challenges
with
the
saber
grant
in
the
very
beginning,
and
I
say
that
to
say
we
had
to
contact
the
city
because
some
of
the
businesses
wasn't
getting
access
to
the
information
when
it
was
being
released.
E
So
when
it
did
come
to
fruition
a
large
number
of
beauty
and
barber
shops
in
certain
districts
that
I'm
familiar
with,
received
the
grant,
then
just
most
recent,
they
received
the
email
and,
unfortunately,
a
lot
of
people
didn't
want
to
do
the
docusign
and
they
had
to
call
us
as
business
owners,
which
is
I'm
the
president.
They
would
say,
and
should
we
sign
it?
E
We
think
this
is
spam,
and
so
I
think
the
technical
support
is
really
crucial
when
it
comes
to
our
team
administering
information,
but
also
we've
partnered
up
with
so
many
different
entities
to
make
sure
that
our
businesses
get
the
resources
like
the
comcast
rise,
like
the
google
cameras
from
the
urban
league,
I'm
working
directly
with
the
chamber
of
commerce
the
front
the
problems
that
we're
having
as
small
businesses
is
that
we
do
get
pushed
out.
We
do
get
minimized
as
if
we
don't
pay
quick
books
and
things
of
that
nature.
E
So
we
did
the
covet
initiative
and
we
were
able
to
get
direct
funding
from
the
city
with
philly
council,
as
well
as
the
university
of
penn,
to
keep
our
businesses
safe,
as
well
as
our
client
safe.
So
we
always
took
the
precautionary
measures
of
small
business
owners,
because
sanitation
is
first
in
our
industry
when
it
comes
to
license
being
licensed
by
the
state.
So
we
had
to
make
that
clear
in
the
very
beginning
that
we
were
first
to
close
and
last
to
reopen
and
they
deemed
us
as
being
unsafe.
E
We've
learned
that
we
are
the
smaller
fish
in
the
pond,
so
we
do
get
disrespected
as
small
businesses,
but
we're
more
than
just
business
owners
like
councilwoman,
sharrelle,
parker
and
curtis.
Mr
councilman
jones
alluded
to
we
deal
with
the
gun
violence.
We
deal
with
the
anxiety
we
deal
with
the
voting
issues
and
we
are
very
transparent
to
small
businesses
that
don't
want
to
vote
as
well
as
their
customers
that
don't
want
to
vote
and
things
of
that
nature.
E
So
everything
that
we
do
within
our
alliance
is
not
just
eternity,
get
highlight
and
get
a
personal
paycheck.
It
really
is
for
the
businesses.
So
just
most
recent
we
receive
funding
and
all
of
our
businesses
receive
resources,
because
they've
done
personal
training
to
help
better
their
community
and
their
small,
their
family,
as
well
as
their
friends,
and
we
still
have
other
initiatives
waiting
to
be
compensated
for
to
continue
to
do
the
things
that
we've
been
fighting
to
do,
and
that
is
to
keep
our
businesses
open
and
thriving.
E
So
when
it
comes
to
the
state
funding,
we're
working
on
a
business
accelerator
and
we're
waiting
for
our
resources,
we're
also
waiting
for
other
additional
funding,
and
these
are
things
that
they
said.
Oh,
we
promise
you
we're
going
to
get
those
things
that
we're
going
to
expedite
it.
However,
those
things
haven't
come
to
fruition,
we're
always
very
hopeful
and
our
team
leads
have
been
on
calls
from
the
very
beginning
of
the
pandemic
for
hours.
E
I
know
a
lot
of
the
councilmedic
district
as
well
as
some
of
the
senators,
and
I
know
that,
because
of
this
pandemic,
I've
had
relationships,
but
never
had
the
x
for
the
government's
support
to
keep
our
businesses
thriving.
So
during
this
hearing,
if
you
can
hear
anything,
you
will
hear
that
my
children
matter
to
me
the
next
generation
of
wealth
matters
to
our
black
and
brown
businesses.
E
Taylor
is
one
of
the
leaders
who
is
hispanic
a
part
of
our
organization,
so
we
have
a
very
diverse
group
and
she
was
able
to
relate
to
some
of
the
hispanic
businesses
the
importance
of
being
not
just
a
part
of
our
alliance,
but
understanding
don't
be
afraid
to
grow.
Your
business
and
give
information,
so
we
have
been
a
trusted
messengers.
Throughout
this
pandemic,
we've
always
been
the
person
that
people
go
to
to
get
their
car
fixed
their
funeral
homes
and
things
of
that
nature.
E
So
if
we
need
to
do
things,
we
have
been
able
to
do
it
on
our
own
and
within
our
consortium.
We've
been
strong
enough
to
maintain
our
level
of
sanity
during
this
crisis,
but
if
we
can
get
the
support
in
reference
to
this
new
bill,
that
would
be
very
helpful
to
strengthen
not
just
our
businesses,
but
also
the
training
that
we're
doing
moving
forward.
B
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
testimony,
much
appreciated
and
it
really
goes
to
show
the
more
effort
we
need
to
do
here
in
government
to
make
sure
we
do
that
outreach
necessary
to
make
sure
everyone
is
included.
Next,
we
have,
I
don't
know
if
daryl
thomas
is
available.
I
know
he
was
one
of
the
ones
trying
to
connect.
B
E
Good
morning,
xena
johnson,
patrick
I'm
an
owner
and
operator
here
for
you,
I'm
hair
salon.
I've
been
in
business
for
28
years.
I
too
did
not
receive
the
idle
loan
funding
ran
out
before
I
was
able
to
receive
it.
My
business
has
not
been
the
same
since
covid
hit
my
on
south
street.
Everything
has
gone
up.
My
rent
bills
utilities,
while
my
income
has
income,
has
decreased.
E
Clients
are
more
reluctant
to
come
to
the
shop
because
of
their
obstruction
in
the
city,
because
the
parking
the
parking
is
horrible
because
we
have
these
eateries
out
front.
My
view
is
obstructed
from
the
street.
You
cannot
see
my
salon
from
the
street
view,
but
that
doesn't
make
a
difference.
I
still
have
to
pay
and
do
what
I
have
to
do
to
stay
afloat
and
because
of
the
fact
that
my
zip
code
is
19146,
I
was
not
able
to
receive
the
saber
grant.
E
We
definitely
need
your
help
and
vice
president
of
ppia,
along
with
miss
ann,
we
came
together
because
of
daryl
thomas
at
this
time
of
the
pandemic,
to
help
businesses
to
do
what
they
had
to
do,
to
stay
afloat
and
for
the
businesses
that
did
not
have
their
their
stuff.
We
were
their
technical
support.
We
volunteered
for
that.
We
all
came
together
and
put
together
their
paperwork
to
help
them
get.
B
I
I
just
wanted
to
speak
to
the
fact
that
I
was
actually
one
of
the
businesses
that
did
receive
the
saber
grant,
which
was
helpful
to
my
business.
It
wasn't
enough
to
help
the
entire
business
in
terms
of
some
of
the
other
people
that
are
in
my
barber
shop.
So
I
host
barbers,
multiple
barbers,
also
hosts
a
nail
tech
and
also
hosts
hairstylist
in
the
barber
shop
covert,
has
is
dramatically
impacted
my
business
and
the
businesses
in
our
communities,
I'm
also
a
part
of
ppia,
and
I
represented
the
barber
shops.
I
One
of
the
things
that
you
know
we
wanted
to
push
for
was
for
all
of
our
small
businesses
to
be
able
to
benefit
from
these
resources
that
are
coming
out.
So
just
like
xena
said
you
know
she
wasn't
able
to
get
the
saber
grant
for
us.
You
know
any
of
us
that
aren't
supported.
You
know.
That
is
something
that
is.
Our
mission
is
to
try
to
make
sure
everyone
that
is
in
our
small
businesses
and
our
communities
are
supported
because
everyone
counts.
I
You
know
our
businesses
come
together
as
communities,
we
support
communities
so
when
one
section
of
our
community
is
suffering,
it
impacts
us
all.
I'm
familiar
also
with
with
brother
curtis
jones,
with
the
barbershop
that
he
was
speaking
of
espn
hair
zone
espn
hair
zone
is
on
the
other
side
of
west
philadelphia
around
the
master
street
side
and
maximum
level.
My
barber
shop
is
on
the
other
section,
which
is
the
hatford
street
side.
I
We
had
a
major
conflict
between
young
men
in
our
communities,
so
so
brother,
mike
from
espn
arizona
and
myself
we
got
together.
We
spoke
to
some
of
the
youths
that
were
a
part
of
this
major
friction
that
they
had
between
the
two
communities
and
we
were
able
to
get
some
balance
based
on
us.
Having
you
know
a
a
position
of
leadership
in
our
communities
based
on
us
having
relationships
with
our
youth.
These
are
things
that
are
are
behind
the
scenes
that
are
helping
our
communities.
I
You
know
in
so
many
different
ways.
So
when
you
think
of
a
barber
shop
and
when
you
think
of
a
beauty
salon,
it's
a
lot
that
people
in
other
positions
just
don't
understand,
and
so
that's
why
it's
important
for
the
people
in
the
the
actual
industry
to
be
those
people
that
are
the
leaders
when
it
comes
to
making
sure
other
barbershops
and
salons
or
other
small
businesses
in
our
urban
community
are
supported.
You
know
they
would
know
about
zenith
shop,
which
is
on
a
major
corridor,
but
it's
still
a
small
business
in
itself.
I
So
in
particular,
I
have
one
student
that
just
that
was
actually
working
in
my
shop
since
he
was
in
middle
school
sweeping
here
and
this
young
man
on
december
29th
got
his
barber
license
and
on
april
14th
got
his
own
barber
shop
and
that
just
happened
of
this
year.
This
young
man
got
his
own
barbershop
and,
and
it's
a
beautiful
thing,
these
are
the
things
that
we
do
behind
the
scenes.
They
don't
get,
they
don't
get
hurt,
they
don't
get
seen,
but
these
are
the
things
that
resonate.
I
We
start
the
culture.
It
starts
to
influence
other
young
men
to
see
that
you
can
thrive,
you
can
still
be
who
you
are,
you
can
still
earn
and
do
something
positive
in
your
community.
These
are
the
people
that
we
need
to
have
at
the
forefront
to
have
resources
for
other
businesses
that
most
people
may
not
see
or
even
hear
from
that
are
doing
the
work
behind
the
scenes
in
urban
communities.
So
I
just
wanted
to
you
know
speak
my
piece
on
that.
I
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
have
the
people
that
have
been
doing
the
work,
with
no
compensation
that
have
been
doing
the
work
genuinely
that
have
been
doing
the
work
above
board.
I
think
it
only
makes
sense
to
have
those
people
as
the
leaders
when
it
comes
to
resources
for
the
other
businesses
that
are
in
our
communities.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
jamal.
Thank
you
for
your
testimony
and
it's
great
to
hear
too
that
even
you
know,
people
who
did
receive
the
grant
are
still
willing
and
out
there
advocating
for
others,
because
that's
important
for
all
of
us,
and
now
I
see
that
daryl.
I
know
we
had
skipped
daryl
and
he
is
now
online.
Daryl
just
want
to
state
your
name
for
your
for
the
record
and
then
begin
with
your
testimony.
J
Yes,
sir
daryl
thomas
owner
of
philly
cuts,
barbershop
4409
chestnut
street
testimony
goes
as
such.
We
we
opened
up.
We
broke
ground,
we'll
open
the
business
up
in
1997
september
1st
we,
through
the
help
of
councilwoman
jamie
blackwell.
We
achieved
our
our
home,
we
own
our
bricks
at
4409
that
was
2007.,
we're
very
forever
grateful
and
appreciative
of
her
and
state
road
state
representative,
jim
roebuck.
J
J
We
have
great
leadership
now
here
in
city
council,
I've
been
assisted
by
many
who
are
on
this
on
this
call
right
now,
when
the
pandemic
hit,
we
reached
out
to
individuals
in
the
in
the
political
realm
and
were
assisted
greatly
because
it
was,
it
was
a
dire
need.
This
was
probably
the
first
time
that
this
has
been
done
from
the
black
barbershop
and
beauty
salon
perspective.
J
We've
partnered
with
some
agencies
and
we'll
let
them
remain
remain
nameless
that
had
good
intentions
from
the
start,
but
the
follow-through
wasn't
quite
what
we
expected
it
to
be.
Many,
many
of
if
you,
if
you
ride
through
the
neighborhoods
you'll,
see
that
many
barbershops
and
beauty
salons
are
half
closed.
You
may
know
of
many
of
clubs
in
the
community.
J
We
know
particulars
of
who
who
didn't
make
it
through
the
pandemic.
At
this
current
point,
at
this
current
time,
numbers
are
down.
We
we
at
philly
cuts.
We,
we
house
about
18
chairs
and
our
numbers
are
down
tremendously,
so
the
assistance
that
has
been
afforded
to
us
by
the
saber
grants
and
other
grants.
It
has
been
tremendous,
but
I'm
very
optimistic,
I'm
I'm
optimistic
because
we
we
we
have
this
call
today,
I'm
not
to
mess
optimistic
with
the
intentions.
J
B
G
G
This
is
a
political
thing
during
the
democratic
presidential
republican
debate
and
you,
you
heard
some
real
commentary
that
needed
to
be
heard.
So
I'm
grateful
to
daryl.
I
also
used
to
cut
my
son's
hair
for
for
what
he
does,
not
just
as
a
barber,
but
as
an
entrepreneur
in
that
community.
So
thank
you,
sir.
B
F
B
A
My
company
has
a
network
of
over
50
000,
black
barber
shops
and
salons
all
across
the
nation,
and
I
work
with
barber
shops
and
salads
in
philadelphia
and
their
salon
owners,
and
it's
just
important.
I
mean
barber
shops,
barbers
and
salon
owners,
they
don't
just
shape
hair,
they
shape
the
culture
and
they
shape
the
community
one
cut
at
a
time
they're
the
incubators
of
the
culture
and
they're
the
cultivators
of
the
culture.
A
A
A
The
new
monoclonal
antibody
treatments
that
were
coming
out
and
we
really
were
able
to
educate
and
to
help
people
as
far
as
their
health
would
go.
So
I
mean
they're
even
important.
On
that
level,
I
put
together
programs,
for
you
know
different
brands
that
want
to
connect
with
the
african-american
community
and
and
they
actually,
these
brands
invest
they.
You
know
most
brands
want
loyalty,
but
I
teach
them.
You
have
to
gain
the
black
community's
respect
and
you
have
to
gain
their
trust
in
order
to
gain
their
loyalty.
B
Thank
you
so
much
and
well
said,
and
it
does
definitely
have
an
impact
on
how
these
businesses
are
able
to
operate
next
person
to
testify
the
association.
I
guess
there's
a
group
of
who's
going
to
represent
them
just
just
state
your
name.
You
can
state
your
name
and
organization,
but
also
state
the
name
of
the
person,
who's
testifying
and
then
we'll
go
from
there.
C
We
also
wanted
to
share
that
during
the
pandemic,
our
organization
was
able
to
help
our
community
through
donations
of
food,
also
helping
them
get
vaccinated
through
the
different
stages
of
the
vaccine
and
hopefully
open
our
hair
stylist
and
our
hair
salons,
applying
for
the
different
brands
and
applying
for
the
different
loans.
That's
the
other.
Here's
someone
to
mention
that
we
were
at.
We
were
kind
of
like
the
technical
support
for
the
hair
salons
in
our
community.
C
C
C
C
So
we
need
the
city
to
help
us
take
control
and
manage
the
the
hairstyles
that
are
working,
because
it's
not
the
same
and
the
requirements
and
everything
that's
required
to
provide
a
good
service
is
not
applied
from
the
home.
So
what
we're
asking
is
from
the
city
to
be
able
to
help
and
control
what's
going
on
in
our
community,
which
is
that
a
lot
of
hairstylists
aren't
just
working
from
home
and
I'm
not
working
for
the
salons.
K
C
We
mentioned
already
the
the
expense
that
you
have
to
use
at
the
salon.
It's
a
lot
more
to
be
able
to
provide
for
mass
sanitizer
cleaning,
ensuring
that
everything
is
up
to
gear
in
regards
to
the
health
and
safety
of
our
customers.
The
same
expense
is
not
used
and
is
not
utilized
from
at
home.
You
know
you
don't
have
to
do
any
of
these
things,
because
there's
no
regulations.
C
C
C
C
C
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
testimony
and
it
really
means
a
lot
to
hear
that
we
do
have
one
more
person
to
testify.
I
know
councilman
parker.
You
wanted
to
to
make
a
comment,
but
I
we
couldn't
get
miss
torres
on,
but
tonya
robinson,
I
think,
is
available
tonya
if
you're
there.
If
you
want
to
stay
your
name
for
the
record
and
give
your
testimony
as
the
last
person
to
testify.
B
F
F
The
time
is
running
together,
so
I
don't
remember
exactly
when,
but
I
do
remember
daryl
you
were
in
the
car
like
you
were
today
and
you
were
in
a
place
like
you
are
right.
Now
we
had
a
zoom
meeting
with
the
commerce
department
and
with
the
administration,
and
it
was
during
that
time
that
you
laid
out
for
me
an
issue
that
I
knew
that
all
of
my
colleagues
thought
was
important
in
their
respective
regions.
When
you
started
talking
about
the
barriers
to
access
about.
F
Thank
you
so
very
much
for
speaking
plainly,
I
didn't
have
to
decode
anything,
although
I'm
not
in
your
industry,
I
understood
clearly
of
the
barriers.
I
also
wanted
to
say
thank
you,
because
she
really
really
laid
it
out.
She
said
she
was
on
south
street
xena
when
xena
talked
about
b.
Xena
talked
about
basically,
mr
chairman.
She
was
getting
penalized
because
she
was
in
the
wrong
zip
code
because
she
wasn't
in
one
of
those
those
zip
codes
that
were
in
the
deepest
poverty
in
the
city.
F
Although
she
is
a
black
owned
business,
she
was
not
able
to
take
advantage
of
the
program
again
good
intentions,
chairman
squiller
and
councilmember
jones,
when
we
start
talking
about
who
we
want
to
impact,
but
because
of
the
way
it
was
designed
and
we
kept
focusing
on
areas
with
the
deepest
poverty.
We
created
a
system
of
haves
and
have-nots
about
those
who
are
owners
and
trying
to
survive
in
a
particular
industry.
F
So
you've
informed
us
today
that
we
in
essence
picked
winner
winners
and
losers
in
how
we
design
the
program
and
no
one
should
be
penalized.
If
they,
if
they're
trying
to
survive,
they
should
be
a
level
playing
field.
So
I
want
to
say
a
special
thank
you
to
each
of
you
and
in
particular
for
the
hispanic
association.
F
It
is
so
very
important
for
us.
It
was
important
for
us
to
hear
your
voices
here
today,
because
if
this
has
happened
to
the
overall
industry
nationwide
and
statewide
here
in
the
commonwealth,
you've
heard
the
saying
that
if
the
nation
you
know
has
a
cold
black
and
brown
folks
get
the
flu,
and
so
what
you
described
about
the
barriers
of
the
challenges
that
you've
experienced.
F
Right,
you
do
so
much
more
in
our
community,
but
people
won't.
You
won't
know
that
we
believe
you
are
essential
until
you
see
what
that
pot
looks
like
at
the
end
of
the
budget
negotiations,
how
what
the
pot
looks
like
how
streamlined
is
the
process
so
that
you
can
get
access
to
the
funding
and
then
how
many
more
and
I
want
to
say
to
karen
and
to
mitch
the
administration
is
listening.
I
want
to
be
laser
focused
on
making
sure
that
we
are
not
doing
what
xena
described.
F
Thank
you
xena
again
pitting
halves
and
have
nots,
because
somebody
is
in
the
right
neighborhood
I
mean
it
just
reminds
me,
councilmember
jones
of
people
saying
somebody
lives
on
the
wrong
side
of
the
tracks,
because
you
because
your
business
is
located
in
the
wrong
area.
Although
you're
struggling
the
same,
you
haven't
gotten
access
to
that
opportunity,
so
we
will
keep
you
keep
you
posted,
daryl
and
and
special.
Thank
you
to
you
for
saying.
We
need
to
get
this
on.
The
public
record
philadelphia
needs
to
know
what's
happening
in
this
industry.
We
did
that
today.
F
B
You
leader,
thank
you,
appreciate
you.
Thank
you
all
right,
thank
you,
everybody
who
had
testified-
and
your
testimony
was
very
well
received
and
since
there's
no
other
questions
or
or
members
to
testify,
this
will
conclude
the
business
before
the
committee
today
on
commerce
and
economic
development.