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From YouTube: Committee on Finance 11-16-2017
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The Committee on Finance of the Council of the City of Philadelphia held a Public Hearing on Thursday, November 16, 2017, at 1:00 PM, in Room 400, City Hall, to hear testimony on the following item:
160111 An Ordinance amending Chapter 12-2800 of The Philadelphia Code, entitled "Administrative Adjudication of Parking Violations," to establish an amnesty program for fines, fees and penalties on parking violations; all under certain terms and conditions.
Committee on Finance
Chair: Councilwoman Jannie Blackwell (3rd District)
Vice Chair: Councilman Bobby Henon (6th District)
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B
A
C
A
D
A
G
A
Thank
you
very
much.
We
note
that
we
introduced
this
a
while
ago,
maybe
around
February
or
something
we
finally
got
to
the
point
where
we
think
that
we
have
enough
information
and
that
there
are
enough
folks
who
want
to
testify.
There's
enough
information
out
that
we
think
it's
ready
for
us
to
have
a
serious
hearing.
I.
A
So
the
reason
for
parking
management
in
any
city
or
town
is
to
provide
those
who
do
business
in
the
city
with
convenient
curbed
and
curbside
parking
for
short
visits
to
the
city
area
area
or
business
district
people
come
to
Center
City
Philadelphia
to
do
business,
including
our
own
residents
and
visitors
alike.
People
come
to
visit
our
world-class
universities
to
seek
metal
advice.
A
Others
come
seeking
a
great
education
and
visit
hundreds
of
restaurants
and
entertainment
businesses
only
to
mention
a
few
lately
I'm
hearing
horror
stories
about
parking
tickets,
all
parking
tickets
that
are
becoming
a
deterrent
to
people
visiting
and
doing
business
in
Philadelphia
many
people
and
businesses
are
jammed
with
financial
debt
due
to
parking,
fines
and
penalties.
My
constituents
are
from
all
walks
of
life
they're
extremely
concerned
that
they
and
their
family
members
have
made
mistakes
in
the
past
by
not
responding
to
parking
tickets.
A
These
mistakes
have
multiplied
in
many
cases
and
now
a
simple
fine
has
to
become
a
farm
for
less
extreme
penalties.
This
has
multiplied
many
times
for
the
same
person,
the
same
family
or
the
same
business
and
have
become
impossible
to
remedy
and
has
become
a
gruesome
financial
burden.
An
amnesty
program
will
give
all
these
individuals
a
chance
to
manage
this
debt,
be
granted
some
amnesty
for
past
mistakes
and
allow
people
to
have
a
new
beginning.
Their
fear
of
the
dreaded
quote.
A
Unquote
boot
will
be
gone
for
some
of
those
who,
for
those
who
participate
in
this
amnesty
program.
I
believe
this
program
will
bring
many
into
compliance
with
their
parking
fines.
These
people
will
be
able
to
begin
to
come
back
to
Center
City,
to
begin
to
feel
safe
on
their
blocks
in
their
neighborhoods,
the
vitality
bar
sitting.
These
businesses
would
grow
the
notion
today.
Other
places
will
be
much
much
better
and
we
believe
people
could
move
around
without
being
afraid
of
a
boot
and
without
feeling
victimized
by
the
parking
authority.
A
We
believe
we
have
a
plan
that
could
be
a
win-win
for
us
all
for
visitors,
residents,
students,
businesses
and
that
we
can
move
forward
together.
We
have
many
other
things
we'd
like
to
talk
about
in
the
city
there.
There
are
many
questions
we're
going
to
ask.
We
receive
so
much
information
information
like
in
the
last
two
months,
there's
been
an
increase
in
booting
by
a
hundred
and
fifty
percent
that
crews
have
gone
from
to
there
five
crews
working
at
night
in
residential
neighborhoods,
to
try
to
get
people
and
try
to
catch
them.
A
We're
tired
of
hearing
that
in
certain
neighborhoods
poor
neighborhoods,
especially
and
minority
neighborhoods,
they
go
down
there.
They
boot
they
find
a
way
and
they
and
they
check
all
the
cars
and
boot
block
after
block
after
block
in
the
same
neighborhoods
and
they
choose
which
neighborhoods
they
want
to
boot
and
unfairly
victimizes
our
people.
We
don't
know
what
the
motivation
is
we
would
like.
A
We
believe,
as
this
bill
says,
that
if
we
allow
for
five
years,
20
13
14,
15,
16
and
17,
that
they
be
allowed
to
pay
10%
down
and
then
give
be
given
24
months
to
pay
it
off,
and
then
everything
else
wiped
out
that
people
have
an
opportunity
to
move
forward
with
a
clean
slate
and
that
everybody
wins
everybody
can
win,
because
we
believe
the
city
will
bring
in
extra
dollars.
People
will
have
a
clear
slate
and
it's
never
been
tried
before.
A
So,
for
all
those
who
say
we're
gonna
hurt
schools,
we're
gonna,
hurt
the
bus,
we're
gonna.
This
is
that
that
has
not.
It's
never
happened
before
it's
a
new
idea.
It's
a
way
to
help
us
feel
good
about
our
city
again
make
us
feel
not
afraid
to
move
around,
and-
and
we
hope
that
representing
the
parking
authority
that
you
will
consider
this
bill
and
that
we
can
move
forward
after
this
together.
Is
there
anyone
else
on
the
panel?
Who
would
like
to
make
a
comment?
A
Let
me
note
that
we
have
a
quorum
to
my
right,
Councilwoman
Cindy
bass
to
her
right,
the
vice-chair
bobynin
to
his
right.
Councilman.
Mark
Squealer
to
my
left,
councilman
bill
Greenlee
and
to
his
left,
Councilwoman
Blondell,
Reynolds
Brown
any
comments.
Thank
you.
Okay.
Then
we
will
open
the
ask
you
to
introduce
yourself
for
the
record
and
open
it
up
for
your
comments
and
testimony.
G
Is
it
on
yes,
Thank
You
councilman
blackwell?
My
name
is
a
good
afternoon.
My
name
is
Christine
during
aglow
PEZ
on
the
chief
administrative
officer
for
the
city
of
Philadelphia.
I
am
here
to
testify
on
bill
number
one:
six
zero
one,
one
one.
The
administration
is
committed
to
supporting
our
residents
and
deeply
respects
Councilwoman
Blackwell's
goal
of
helping
individuals
of
limited
means.
To
that
end,
we
have
proposed
a
parking
amnesty
program
that
relieves
undue
burdens,
while
balancing
potential
impacts
to
the
school
district.
G
Specifically,
we
have
proposed
a
ten
year
amnesty
accessible
through
a
10%
down
24
month
payment
plan.
This
means
that
for
tickets,
more
than
ten
years
old
participants
would
have
the
significant
late
penalties
that
accrue
as
well
as
most
boot,
toe
and
storage
fees
forgiven.
The
unfortunate
truth
is
that,
in
spite
of
any
bump
in
revenue,
some
participation
in
the
amnesty
amounts
forgiven
under
this
program
will
inevitably
translate
into
school
district
losses.
We
would.
A
G
Would
respectfully
provide
the
most
accessible
payment
plan
terms
possible
and
protect
district
revenues?
Nevertheless,
we
here
the
Councilwoman
steadfast
call
for
an
amnesty
and
are
open
to
a
balanced
approach.
Ori
Monson,
chief
financial
officer
for
the
School
District
of
Philadelphia
will
be
testifying
and
can
provide
additional
information
on
the
financial
impact
from
this
bill
to
the
school
district.
The
majority
of
Philadelphia
residents
do
do
pay
their
parking
tickets.
In
fact,
23,000
constituents
are
currently
in
a
payment
plan
based
on
the
council
women's
concerns.
G
We
are
ready
to
provide
far
more
accessible
payment
plan
terms,
in
addition
to
working
out
amnesty
or
other
provisions
that
balances,
hardship,
fairness
and
the
imperative
of
protecting
funding
for
schools.
We
remain
committed
to
finding
a
path
forward.
This
concludes
my
testimony.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
appear
before
you
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
G
E
Good
afternoon,
chair
Blackwell
vice
chair
Heenan
and
other
members
of
City
Council's
Finance
Committee,
my
name
is
Larry
Monson
I'm,
the
chief
financial
officer
for
the
Philadelphia
School
District
I'm
pleased
to
present
testimony
regarding
bill
number
one,
six,
zero
one,
one
one
regarding
the
establishment
of
an
amnesty
program
for
fines,
fees
and
penalties
on
parking
violations
and
the
potential
impacts
on
the
annual
payments.
The
school
district
receives
from
the
parking
authority,
as
I've
testified
previously
before
council,
the
school
district
effectively
receives
any
surplus
funds.
The
parking
authority
recognizes
at
the
end
of
its
fiscal
year.
E
I've
also
noted
that
the
school
district
has
no
control
over
any
of
its
revenues
and
we're
most
concerned
that
our
revenue
sources
be
recurring
and
predictable
to
allow
for
proper
planning
and
investment
in
our
schools.
I'm
unable
to
attain
prior
information
on
how
much
the
parking
authority
collects
annually
for
tickets
that
are
more
than
three
years
old
I
for
the
most
recent
three-month
period
about
2.3
million
dollars
was
collected
for
these
tickets,
but
I
can't
account
for
seasonality
of
collections
or
the
impact
of
the
parking
authority's
new
enforcement
efforts.
E
Projecting
the
extent
of
the
impact
on
school
district
revenues
is
further
exacerbated
by
the
opaque
nature
of
the
financial
information
which
is
provided
to
us
by
the
parking
authority.
I
do
want
to
thank
City
Council
again
for
getting
the
school
district
to
seat
at
the
table
during
the
periodic
financial
update
meetings
with
the
parking
authority
in
the
city.
This
has
provided
some
insight
into
the
trends
the
parking
authority
is
seeing
during
the
year.
E
Although
the
level
of
detail
and
explanation
of
anomalies
remains
vague,
effectively
we're
given
a
check
at
the
end
of
the
year,
with
a
high-level
summary
of
how
that
figure
was
achieved.
This
new
initiative,
which
will
result
in
an
undetermined
loss
of
revenues
to
the
parking
authority,
serves
only
to
provide
a
handy
justification
for
future
unexplained
reductions
in
school
district
funding.
For
this.
For
these
reasons,
I
oppose
the
adoption
of
bill
number
one,
six,
zero
one
one
one.
That
concludes
my
testimony
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
at
the
conclusion
of
the
panel's
testimony.
B
A
A
B
B
As
counsel
is
aware
of
the
Philadelphia
Parking
Authority
is
an
agent
of
the
city
of
Philadelphia.
We
were
tasked
with
the
duty
of
carrying
out
the
traffic
code
within
the
city
of
Philadelphia.
This
includes
the
issuance
and
collection
of
all
parking
violations
and
filings
to
give
you
some
insight
of
ticket
revenue
in
2016,
79
million.
Sixty
thousand
five
hundred
fifty
four
dollars
was
collected
from
payments
of
parking
violations.
In
addition,
twenty
four
million
six
hundred
eight
thousand
five
thirty
six
is
still
outstanding.
B
Just
from
that
year,
when
averaged
a
ticket
less
than
three
years
old,
has
a
collection
rate
of
eighty
eight
percent.
As
previously
stated
an
agent
of
the
city
of
Philadelphia,
we
support
the
city
testimony
of
moving
forward
in
creating
the
program
in
which
we
all
can
support.
Thank
you
and
I
will
take
any
questions.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
We
note
that
parking
authority
gives
that
one
point
one
point:
five
in
this
past
year:
1.6
million
tickets
a
year-
that's
some
serious,
Series
tickets
are
all
of
you
finished
with
your
testimony.
Yes,
all
right
and
we
would
say,
and
we're
going
to
move
quickly
before
I
call
on
Councilman
Greenlee
that
we
know
that
you
all
are
offering
instead
of
five
years
and
this
the
ten
year,
and
we
don't
know
how
people
can
pay
off.
A
We
had
someone
who
came
to
last
year,
who
was
talking
about
their
car
being
taken
and
a
bill
for
ten
thousand
dollars
and
they
had
to
go
to
the
banking
people.
It's
just
so
much
money
and
I.
Don't
know
how
people
are
going
to
take
ten
years
and
pay
off
that
amnesty
in
24
months.
I,
don't
think
it's
we
think
five
years
is
high.
That
was
a
concession
on
my
part
because
we
had
down
two
or
three
years.
A
So
we
ended
up
to
to
try
to
get
my
colleagues
to
agree
with
five
years,
but
ten
years
is
too
much
money
to
expect
people
to
be
able
to
pay
in
24
months
and
that's
my
thing.
Somebody
else
has
another
opinion,
of
course,
they're
free
to
give
it
and
I,
don't
know
how
we
can
do
that.
Nor
you
know
this
is
something
you
all
just
came
up
with.
Nor
has
the
this
panel,
the
this.
This
Finance
Committee
had
any
time
to
consider
that
Thank,
You,
councilman
Greenlee.
I
Thank
you,
ma'am
chair,
I'm,
just
trying
as
much
as
possible
to
kind
of
get
down
as
much
as
a
figure
as
possible
that
mr.
Munson,
you,
you
said
that
would
the
school
district
could
possibly
lose
through
this.
You
so
give
me
those
figures
again.
You
said
it
could
be
between
what
and
what
I
believe
so.
E
I
E
If
you
assume
that
as
the
minimum
I
don't
know,
if
that
is
it
see
the
first
seasonality
reasons
if
that's
higher
or
normal
than
usual
and
I,
don't
have
any
other
data
that
I
would
normally
have
to
be
able
to
check.
But
if
you
assume
that
is
the
minimum,
if
you
annualize
that
over
the
year
be
close
to
7
million.
So
that's
just
the
range
I
gave
I'm
working
off
the
data.
I.
Have
it's
not.
I
I
I
Of
the
amnesty
besides
having
certain
tickets
forgiven
is
hoping
people
come
forward
just
like
they
did
with
the
the
real
estate
tax
amnesty
many
years
ago.
Is
there
a
way
to
kind
of
figure
out
because
there's
some
people
that
might
not
pay
at
all
and
accept
that
they
they
are
offered
amnesty?
Am
I
making
sense
yes,
so
I
mean?
Is
there
any
way
to
kind
of
figure
out
or
have
you
given
any
thought
to
you
know
you're
saying
it
could
be
some
money
lost,
but
could
there
be
some
money
at
least
up
front
made?
B
So
it's
believed
that
once
the
amnesty
is
always
offered
that
you
do
see
that
up,
it's
believed
that
once
an
amnesty
is
offered,
you
do
see
that
uptick
for
that
short
amount
of
time,
because
you
will
have
people
come
in,
but
then
in
the
years
to
follow.
If
you're
gonna
take
an
amnesty
and
take
a
certain
year
where
you're
gonna
wipe
the
slate
clean
as
we're
calling
it
right.
J
B
K
B
I
B
G
G
G
I
G
I
G
I
I,
don't
know
everything's
different
I
understand
that
you
know
it's
a
different
dynamic
here
with
parking
but
I'm,
just
thinking
they're
there,
or
at
least
would
be
some
bump
originally
and
I
guess
we
have
to
figure
particularly
on
depending
how
far
back
we
go
with
the
amnesty.
You
know
how
much
money
could
be
lost
and
obviously
none
of
us
want
to
lose
money
for
the
schools.
Guys
I
think
we
all
agree
with
that
because
we
know
what's
facing
us.
Okay,
all.
L
A
I
A
You
very
much
let
me
note
that
we
were
told
from
your
folks
that
less
than
four
point
five
percent
was
collected
after
five
years,
so
that
makes
a
difference.
We
were
also
called
told
by
the
controller
that,
when
Joan
krajewski
did
a
tax
amnesty
program
that
some
eight
some
eighty
five
million
dollars
was
realized.
Let
me
ask
you
and
then
I'm
calling
woman
squirrel
what
percentage
of
this
all
and
all
my
colleagues
and
Councilwoman
Reynolds
Brown.
What
percentage
of
this
goes
to
the
school
district
and
what
goes
to
the
city.
B
A
B
So
so
this
year
alone,
the
fiscal
year
that
just
ended
the
city
received
almost
39
million
and
the
school's
received
10
million
every
year
that
baseline
changes.
That's
what
I
was
trying
to
claim
this
year.
It
could
be
once
that
gross
revenue
goes
up.
The
baseline
changes
of
what
the
city
is
going
to
receive,
and
then
what's
the
school
and
whatever
is
left
over,
is
what
the
school's
will
receive.
So
this
year
the
baseline
goes
up
to
40
million.
Whatever
is
left
over
is
what
the
schools
will
received.
A
M
You
thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
I
guess
I'm
a
little
bit
trouble
well,
not
even
a
little
bit
little
quite
a
bit
trouble
that
we
can't
speak
more
precisely
in
terms
of
how
much
the
school
district
is
losing,
but
that's
the
primary
argument
for
why
this
bill
shouldn't
be
considered.
So
so
it's
kind
of
hard
to
reconcile.
M
B
Answer
to
that
sure,
so,
every
year
the
school
district
does
not
receive
the
portion
of
the
payment
until
the
books
are
closed
at
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year.
So
as
we
issued
the
check
to
the
city
photo
that
happens
on
a
monthly
basis,
so
as
they,
the
gross
revenue
happens
and
then
that
a
check
is
sent
over
to
the
city
every
month
once
that
money
is
sent
over
over
every
month,
as
I
said
by
state
code,
we
follow
that
that
formula
of
what
has
to
go
to
the
city
first.
B
So
what
is
left
is
what
goes
to
the
school
and
what
we're
trying
to
testify
is
with
the
amnesty
program.
If
less
revenue
comes
in
and
we
meet
say
that
forty
million,
but
we
only
brought
in
forty
five,
were
before
the
amnesty
we
probably
would
have
brought
in
fifty.
So
whoever
is
going
to
see
that
less
money
is
going
to
be
the
school
district.
That
is
what
I
believe
with
what
mr.
Monson
was
trying
to
relate
to
you
that,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
who's
going
to
get
hurt.
First,
is
the
schools
and.
M
And
I
can
understand
that,
but
at
the
same
time,
I
think
a
reasonable
estimate
should
be
provided
to
the
council
to
the
committee.
I
think
that
it's
not
that
difficult.
You
know
to
come
up
with
an
estimate,
because
this
is
not
something
that
we're
doing
that's
new.
The
amnesty
would
be
something
though
I.
Actually
let
me
back
up
and
ask
a
question:
has
there
ever
been
an
amnesty
program
through
the
parking
authority.
M
Then
everyone's
like
1990,
so
when
we
talked
about
amnesty
programs,
what
we
were
talking
about
were
real
estate
taxes,
business
taxes,
City
wage
taxes,
things
of
that
nature,
which
are
completely
separate
and
can
be
a
very
separate
audience
from
those
who
are
paying
parking
tickets.
Would
you
agree?
Yes,.
M
M
M
These
are
citizens
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia,
black
and
white,
in
our
neighborhoods
working
folks.
Folks,
who
get
up
every
day,
go
out,
work,
hard,
pay
their
bills
and
then
end
up
jammed
up
with
a
parking
ticket.
Maybe
they
got
it?
Maybe
it
wasn't
on
the
windshield,
maybe
they
got
two
or
three
or
whatever,
and
whether
we're
talking
about
you
know
the
parking
authority
coming
through
and
clearing
out
an
entire
block.
You
know
towing
cars,
ticketing,
cars,
booting
cars,
you
know
coming
through
our
neighborhoods.
M
It
really
does
feel
like
again
like
a
particular
and
targeted
population
pays
for
so
much
of
what
happens
with
our
school
district
and
with
our
kids,
and
so
you
know,
I
think
that
we
can
do.
Amnesty
I
think
that
it's
not
unreasonable
and
I
think
that
the
parking
authority,
if
they
wanted
to,
could
go
back
to
the
table
and
help
us
to
figure
this
out,
because
I
think
that
the
bill
likely
has
support
from
this
committee
and
probably
wouldn't
move
forward.
And
so
I
would
urge.
M
B
M
C
C
Information
that
we
need
to
make
informed
decisions
now
two
council
members
colleagues
have
asked
for
information
where
they're
still,
at
least
for
me,
a
blur,
and
one
has
to
speak
with
the.
We
know
bottom
line
that
all
of
us
want
and
expect
that
the
school
district
will
continue
to
be
a
beneficiary,
because
that's
the
number
one
two
three
priority
for
those
of
us
who
pay
taxes
when
those
dollars
follow
their
way
to
the
school
district,
where
our
loss
is
and
what
might
be
helpful
with
regards
to
Councilwoman
bass
requests.
C
If
we,
if
you
could
provide
the
last
five
years,
history
of
how
much
money
has
come
in
the
parking
authority
and
then
you've
mentioned
a
baseline
and
how
that
fluctuates
year
to
year
and
then
from
that.
What
amount
that
we
know,
because
it's
based
on
history,
goes
to
the
school
district
that
at
least
gives
us
a
picture
of
the
financial
operations
over
there
at
the
parking
authority.
So
that
would
be
helpful
to
know.
Secondly,
the
question
was:
do
you
know
if
there
has
ever
been
an
amnesty
offered
by
the
parking
authority?
C
C
C
In
response
to
the
proposed
policy,
changes
and
I'm,
quoting
here
in
order
to
maintain
the
amnesty
reductions
potential
amnesty
reductions,
citizens
must
remain
compliant
with
future
parking
tickets
over
the
term
of
their
payment
plans.
So
what
does
come
compliant
mean?
Does
that
mean
no
tickets,
or
does
that
mean
tickets
with
payment?
So.
B
B
B
C
G
C
All
right
and
then
lastly,
we've
learned
that
from
the
city's
experience
with
the
amnesty,
which
ultimately
ended
up
being
a
good
thing,
there
was
an
uptick
is
the
word
that
was
used
for
a
short
amount
of
time,
so
define
for
me.
A
short
amount
of
time
is
that
three
months
there
was
an
uptick
or
six
months.
There
was
an
uptick
where
you
saw
a
benefit
from
that
initiative.
G
C
G
Currently,
so
if
you're,
it's
your
first
time
in
a
plan
or
if
you've
completed
up
a
plan,
its
25%
down
and
then
the
balances
in
12
months
for
booted
or
towed
it's
50%
down
and
the
balance
in
12
months.
And
then
if
the
Constituent
happened
to
be
a
default
in
their
plan,
its
50%
down
in
the
balances
in
12
months.
Okay,.
C
A
D
D
B
I
B
H
B
When
you
first
receive
a
notice,
you're
gonna
receive
about
5
notices
when
you
first
receive
a
parking
violation,
if
you
don't
pay,
you
you
receive
about
five
notices.
I
think
is
the
audience
by
the
ration.
If
you
have
a
ticket,
that's
like
15
years
old
you're
not
going
to
get
keep
getting
a
new
two
seventy
three
weeks.
That's
just
not
something
that
happens
so,
basically
that
that's
the
answer
things.
D
B
Tickets,
you're
going
to
get
notices
as
you
get
into
the
pool
eligible.
We
file
you're,
going
to
get
a
a
notice
to
that.
So
every
ticket
gets
seven
to
eat
notices.
Once
you
get
a
parking
violation,
then
you
don't
pay
that
parking
violation,
but
as
that
ticket
gets
five
ten
years
old,
you're
not
going
to
keep
getting
a
notice
every
two
months.
What.
P
B
B
A
D
You,
madam
chair
I,
guess
one
of
the
shortcomings
of
letting
I
guess
collegiate
courtesy
is
some
of
the
questions
were
asked,
but
let
me
start
off
by
you
know
acknowledging
that
you
know
the
Councilwoman
our
chair
of
chairperson,
chair
lady,
really
represents
a
hurt
district,
phenomenal
and
really
is
looking
after
you
know,
people
who
need
to
need
some
support
and
some
some
help
from
from
government.
So
I
want
to
applaud,
applaud
her
for
her
ingenuity
here
in
coming
up
with
an
amnesty
program.
For
me,
I
have
a
lot
of
I.
D
D
B
B
D
B
B
B
D
B
B
B
D
So
right
now
you
know
and
they're
it's
unclear
on
who
has
the
right
numbers,
so
we
can
make
an
informed
decision
here
and
what
goes
to
the
city,
what
revenues
this
parking
authorities
collect
and
what
the
city
is
getting
with
the
school
districts
getting
so
one
two
five
years:
there's
a
hundred
and
eighteen
million
dollar
outstanding
in
delinquency
sec.
Is
that
correct.
B
D
Okay,
and
if
we
forgive
so
mean
just
like,
we
are,
and
your
II
would
notice,
with
pensions
right
or
our
unfunded
liability,
you
assume
that
everybody,
that's
how
you
come
up
with
the
unfunded.
Everybody's
gonna
collect
the
benefit
at
once.
Alright,
so
if
everybody
enrolls
in
the
program
of
118
million
dollars,
that's
outstanding
after
five
years,
what
is
for?
What
is
being
forgiven?
Do
you
have
that
about.
B
D
A
B
B
It's
actually
more
than
that,
if
you,
so
we
get
we're
discussing
that.
If
we
go
back
ten
years
every
every
year,
you're
looking
at
eighteen,
twenty
million
as
I
get
older
and
I
get
into
the
yet
like
a
year,
2000
there's
about
twenty
five
million
outstanding.
So
it's
actually
more
money
outstanding.
As
a
ticket
gets
older
and
older,
it
gets
harder
to
collect
so.
D
B
B
D
B
B
A
C
Q
C
D
Ever
we
do
this,
have
at
I
I,
provide
you
with
a
list
of
questions.
Okay,
all
right
that
I
will
run
by
this
committee,
and
we
could
you
can
respond
at
a
chair
because
I
will
you
know
at
the
will
of
this
committee
depending
upon
with
what
their
will
is
on
Windows
bill,
but
I'm?
One
final
passage:
I
am
NOT
going
to
be
committed
to
anything
until
I
get
the
information
that
we
request.
I
her.
I
I
Different
things,
you
know
was
taxes
but-
and
I
understand
where
you
have
to
base
certain
figures
on
thinking-
everybody's
want
to
participate,
but
it's
probably
also
not
realistic
that
everybody's
going
to
participate
Christine.
Do
you
know
how
many
percentage-wise
of
people
who
weren't
delinquent
in
the
tax
actually
participate?
What
you
have
anything
like
that
or
don't.
I
I
And
I
understand
when
you
give
these
estimates,
you're
basing
it
on
everybody
participating,
cuz,
yeah,
I,
guess
you
you
have
to
assume
that,
but
also
realistically,
not
everybody's
gonna
do
it.
You
know
that
either
by
not
knowing
about
it
or
not
one
too
whatever,
so
those
figures
may
be
a
little
bit
different
too.
You
know
so
and
I
know
it's
hard
to
get
exact
figures.
We
we
understand
that,
but
we're
trying
to
get
as
much
information
as
we
can
I
guess.
Alright.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
My
chair,
thank.
A
You
and
let
me
note
that
the
administration
wanted
us
to
all
this.
We
just
heard
on
our
way
in
they
wanted
to
change
the
bill
and
have
us
not
put
so
many
details
in
it,
so
they
would
have
the
wherewithal
to
do
that
now.
How
can
we
do
that
when
they
don't
have
the
information
we
asked
them,
so
we
try.
A
We
try
to
do
all
we
could
as
much
detail
as
we
could
to
be
fair
to
all
sides,
but
but
they
didn't,
they
don't
have
the
information
and
they're
the
ones
who
are
holders
of
the
information.
So
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
have
to
do
what
we
think
is
best
and
I'm
also
told
that
not
that
not
all
of
the
figures
they're
giving
us
our
correct
figures,
I'm
told
that
now
as
well.
C
C
C
A
Thank
you.
We
note
here.
I
did
not
read
this
I
was
supposed
to
yesterday.
I
have
information
here.
The
PPA
has
issued
an
estimated
7.5
million
tickets
since
2012
zip
codes,
like
one
nine
one,
two
one:
two
one
and
Lord
North
Philadelphia
raked
up
over
a
hundred
and
twenty
thousand
parking
tickets
since
2012
and
and
the
neighborhood's
one
nine
one,
four.
A
A
A
A
D
Yes,
I
excuse
me.
People
before
before
you
leave
I
know,
there's
a
lot
of
confusion.
A
lot
of
cross
talk
on
requests
for
information,
I
hope
we
can
go
back
to
the
transcripts
here
and
maybe
you
know,
will
compile
a
very
concise
list.
All
right,
that's
specific
that
make
it
easier
for
new
requests.
I
have
a
lot
of
information
that
I
want
to
request
and
again
I
will
support.
D
A
A
Right
we're
going
to
ask
that
you
wait
sit
to
the
side
while
we
ask
panel
to
Michael
Court
if
you're
Esquire,
Richard,
Huy,
Esquire,
Joe,
Joe,
Volvo,
Esquire,
Stephen,
Cottrell's,
and
then
after
that,
would
what
Rochelle,
Bulow
and
we'll
deal
with
public
from
there
on
all
right.
Gentlemen,
and
ladies
thank
you
thank
you
for
being
here
with.
A
Michael
cord
may
have
gone
richard
hoi,
joseph
volvo
steven,
Cottrell's
in'
and
rochelle
Bulow,
and
again
we're
asking
the
first
panel
to
wait
so
that
you
may
hear
these
concerns.
Just
in
case,
you
don't
know,
thank
you
feel
free
to
introduce
yourself
for
the
record
and
make
your
testimony.
Thank
you
so
much
for
being
here
absolutely.
N
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
joseph
Valvo
I'm
here
today
to
testify,
with
respect
to
the
bill.
I
apologize
to
the
panel
that
I
did
not
write
down
the
particular
numbers
of
that
bill.
I
would
ask
that
they
be
provided
to
the
record
by
someone
who
has
it
in
front
of
them
now.
What
I
came
here
today
to
testify
and
discuss,
is
going
to
be
in
just
a
moment,
a
case
study,
which
is
an
actual
parking
dilemma.
N
If
you
will
of
an
individual
in
this
city
who
I
represented
pro
bono,
but
before
I,
do
that
I
have
to
comment
just
a
little
bit
on
some
of
the
testimony.
I
heard.
As
we
know,
we
talk
a
lot
about
the
map
and
I.
Think
it's
important
to
note
that
when
we
talk
about
these
figures
at
least
as
I
understand
it
a
hundred
million
118
million,
etc.
N
We're
talking
about
accounts,
receivable,
we're
talking
about
the
collections
of
monies
that
someone
says
is
owed
we're
not
talking
about
dollars
in
pocket
that
are
being
spent
and
I
say
that,
because,
at
the
end
of
the
case,
study
I
present
I
will,
at
the
end
of
the
case,
study.
I
present
I
will
tie
into
the
fact
that
I
think
the
technique
being
used
of
taking
very
low
value
vehicles
off
the
street
is
effectively
enhancing
the
accounts.
N
Receivable
problem
that
the
department
continually
points
to
as
the
critical
item
that
causes
it
to
be
necessary
to
take
the
actions
they
are
in
a
courtroom.
We
would
call
it
bootstrapping
and
from
the
perspective
and
an
independent
case
study,
we
suggest
the
following:
I
was
contacted
by
an
individual.
That
individual
must
rename
remain
nameless,
as
I
have
not
had
the
opportunity
to
ask
them
if
I
could
present
their
data,
but
with
respect
to
their
case.
N
N
That
I
cannot
detail,
but
I
accepted
at
the
time
as
true
I
made
clear
to
the
individuals,
then
that
that
person
would
simply
not
be
able
to
pay
that
amount
at
this
time
or
at
any
time
in
the
foreseeable
future,
and
offered
a
copy
of
the
original
title
of
the
vehicle
to
parking
authority
and
said.
Please
take
this
now:
do
not
charge
storage
fees
on
the
vehicle
sell
it
immediately.
So
100%
of
the
proceeds
can
go
toward
the
debt
owed
on
the
citations.
N
Approximately
$1,300
I
was
responded
to
take
it
up
with
a
higher
administration
which,
as
counsel
I,
did
and
I
will
say
that
I
did
get
some
access
up
the
food
chain
in
parking
authority,
and
they
explained
to
me
that
there
a
collections
agent
for
the
city,
that
there
is
no
mechanism
to
take
a
title
and
they
weren't
interested
in
that
action.
They
then
sold
the
vehicle
at
sale
as
a
net
result.
N
The
client
received
a
bill
not
for
the
tickets,
but
for
the
storage
and
the
towing
for
one
thousand
and
fifty
dollars
still
owes
one
thousand
and
seventy
dollars
against
the
citations.
Despite
the
sale.
That
means
that
a
thirteen
hundred
dollar
debt
was
turned
into
a
twenty
one.
Hundred
dollar
debt
by
the
action
of
taking
the
vehicle
I
suggest
that
this
causes
a
number
of
problems.
Number
one
there's
an
obvious
human
factor
here
at
play.
That
seems
to
be
lost
on
our
prior
witnesses,
who
testified
I
concede
as
a
private
businessman.
N
That
collections
of
receivables
is
one
of
the
most
frustrating
elements
of
business.
However,
the
kind
of
cold,
businesslike
approach
to
the
human
issues
that
obviously
exists
was
a
bit
disheartening
for
counsel,
as
I
sat
here
and
listened.
The
second
problem
that
comes
is
that
they
have
now
as
a
result
of
this
action
again
selling
the
motor
vehicle
against
the
will
of
this
individual
increased
that
individuals,
debt
increase
their
own
bottom
line,
receivables
which
they
hold
out
to
you
as
the
problem
that
exists.
N
N
It
seems
to
me
that
when
you
know
as
the
agency,
not
only
with
respect
to
the
human
factors
of
the
people
who
you
are
in
charge
to
serve,
but
even
basic
collection
law
principles,
we
do
not
collect
and
use
collection
techniques
to
harass
or
punish.
They
are
supposed
to
be
designed
to
satisfy
the
debt.
If
you
know
as
the
agency,
it
costs
approximately
$1,000
for
towing
and
storage,
and
you
have
the
exact
number
of
the
debt
with
respect
to
the
tickets.
N
N
They
own
it
for
its
practical
value
because
it
could
take
them
to
the
doctor
because
it
could
take
their
children
to
school
because
it
allows
them
to
go,
get
their
groceries
and
when
you
take
that
from
them
without
any
real
ability
to
diminish
the
debt
that
they
owe
you,
you
have
punished.
You
have
not
collected
and
I
suggest.
That
is
intolerable.
N
L
E
L
L
When
you're
stopped
live,
stop
in
the
city,
get
your
cars
immediately
taken,
and
you
wind
up
wind
up
in
traffic
court
trying
to
get
your
traffic
ticket
straightened
out,
but
then
you've
got
to
go
over
to
the
parking
window
after
traffic
court
fleeces
you
to
the
parking
authority,
they
have
no
criteria
up
there,
they
want
their
money
and
they
want
it
now
or
you're,
not
getting
your
car
back.
This
is
part
of
their
problem.
They
have
no
amnesty,
they've
never
had
anything.
L
They
don't
want
anything
because
it's
gonna
cause
them
to
get
less
revenue
in
they
don't
want
they
want.
They
got
the
little
guy
there
at
traffic
court
and
they're
gonna
twist
it
out
of
them
or
he's
not
getting
his
car
back
and
he's
not
going
to
be
able
to,
like
joe
said,
go
to
work,
get
his
children
to
the
doctor's,
get
his
mother
to
the
doctors
and
he's
gonna
wind
up
just
giving
up
the
car.
But
do
you
know
how
he
goes
and
gets
a
new
car,
a
parking
authority?
L
L
And
I
tell
you
why
that's
the
law
in
the
state
of
Pennsylvania,
you
have
three
years
statute
of
limitations
on
every
ticket
and
all
the
counties
of
Pennsylvania
except
Philadelphia.
Philadelphia
does
a
little
smartass
thing.
They
do
they
put
a
date
certain
when
you
get
a
ticket
and
then
when
you,
if
you
don't
come
in
for
your
first
hearing,
they
found
you're
guilty
and
abstence
eeeh
and
then
the
statute
of
limitation
ends,
but
the
rest
of
the
counties
in
Pennsylvania
still
have
statute
of
limitations.
L
Philadelphia
doesn't
because
the
Philadelphia
traffic
court
got
smart
and
they
backs
up
the
all
the
tickets.
We
need
a
three-year
statute
of
limitations
back
with
parking
tickets,
because
at
one
time,
parking
tickets
and
there's
a
couple
on
the
council
here
would
know
this
and
you
about
something
like
well.
There
used
to
be
criminal
matters
at
one
time,
okay
and
we
decriminalized
them.
L
Now
we
make
them
money
matters
totally
money
matters,
you
know,
Philadelphia
traffic
court
at
least
I
will
give
them
credit
for
one
thing:
if
you
need
a
payment
plan
and
Philadelphia
traffic
court,
you
can
go
in
and
sit
with
them
and
and
and
get
a
payment
plan.
They
don't
felishj
it.
They
don't
kill
you
for.
In
the
payment
plan
thing
they
they'll
take
five
percent
down
or
something
like
that
and
they'll
give
you
some
time
to
yeah,
sometimes
some
time
to
pay
it
off
much
better
than
what
they're
suggested
here.
Much
better.
L
The
only
problem
with
Philadelphia
traffic
court
is
they
have
in
excess
of
two
hundred
and
twenty
five
million
dollars
out
on
the
streets
of
Philadelphia
that
they
haven't
collected
and
they
only
go
through.
Maybe
forty
or
fifty
payment
plans
a
day
with
one
person.
Okay,
this
is
going
to
need
a
restructuring
of
the
parking
authority.
If
they're
going
to
do
what's
necessary
to
help
these
people
they're
going
to
have
to
sit
down
and
look
at
individual
cases,
because
you
have
people
coming
in
that
are
on
Social
Security
SSI.
L
They
don't
have
the
money
to
pay
these
things.
They
will
pay
something
each
month
and
they
will
make
an
effort,
but
they
don't
have
what
they
expect:
25%
down
50%
down
honor
because
you're
taking
a
$35
traffic
ticket
or
parking
ticket,
and
now
it's
90
dollars
it
and
they're.
Just
they
should
take
that
off
and
start
off
with
that
figure,
but
they
don't
want
to
do
this
and
I
and
and
I
can
see
right
now
how
they're
gonna
fight
this
all
the
way.
L
A
L
Will
provide
for
our
school
children
whether
it's
do
the
parking
authority
or
through
something
else
we
will
provide
for
them,
so
just
don't
keep
throwing
out
we're
not
gonna
you're,
not
gonna,
give
any
money
for
the
school
children.
If
you
do
this,
these
people
will
all
benefit,
and
no
all
that
is
very
rare.
Kids.
That's.
A
Mr.
Steven
Cottrell's
in
Michael
quarter
not
here,
and
let
me
know
that
in
our
bill
we
talked
about
towing
and
storage
fees
for
vehicle,
where
we
asked
for
30%
30%
payment
and
70%
wiped
out.
We
even
are
dealing
with
that,
but
that's
why
they
don't
want
to
deal
with
the
rest
of
our
bill,
because
we
tried
to
deal
with
all
issues
that
people
have
to
consider
and
they
don't
want
to
do
that
and
they
claim
they
don't
understand
what
we
have
so
we'll
move
ahead.
A
A
A
J
J
J
Some
of
my
taxes
go
to
the
school
I
pay
taxes
on
water,
I
pay.
What
y'all
call
the
storm
drain
charge?
I
pay
taxes
on
everything
in
this
city
day
in
and
day
out,
and
if
we
gotta
pay
taxes
more
for
our
children
in
school
I
guess
we
have
to
suck
it
up
when
I
ain't
got
a
child
in
the
school
board.
But
what
I
am
offended
about
is
them
to
come
here
and
bring
the
school
board
here,
like
cowards.
J
Holding
the
child
up
in
front
of
them,
whether
it's
selling
the
shooting
at
them
don't
shoot
me
I
got
I
got
the
childhood
from
me.
That's
an
embarrassment,
that's
offensive,
stop
doing
it,
stop
doing
it,
and
then
they
not
listening
good
Elvin
on
the
corner
on
the
phone.
They
don't
really
care
about
what
we
have
to
say
here
today,
but
I'm
gonna
tell
you
this.
J
J
J
J
Let
me
let
me
go
get
on
to
females.
She
had
to
leave.
Our
crowd
is
dwindling
down,
because
a
lot
of
people
took
off
their
lunch
break
to
come
over
here
and
thinking.
We
was
going
to
start
at
one
o'clock.
They
took
time
off
the
work
to
set
up
here,
and
so
they
got
to
run
back
to
work,
so
I
need
to
make
sure
I
hit.
What
one
of
our
members
said
that
one
of
the
people
here
said
today.
J
So
if
the
partner
Karthik
is
going
by
people,
houses
issuing
tickets,
don't
get
out
of
the
car
to
put
them
on
the
ticket
and
let
you
know
they
got
them
and
then
they
pull
off
and
then
they
claim
that
they
let
you
notice,
and
then
they
said
also
in
their
conversation
that
sometimes
they
just
stopped
notifying
anybody
of
anything.
But
who
let
us
know
that
they
was
going
to
start
cross-referencing,
your
name
or
any
tag
that
you
got
to
whatever
ticket
you
had
going
back
as
far
as
1976.
J
We
make
the
administrative
decision
to
go
cross
reference
cross
reference.
Is
this
way?
Let
me
caution
everybody,
and
even
you,
if
you
got
a
child
in
this
city,
your
child,
you
go
get
your
child,
a
car
use
edge
or
insurance
since
16,
which
I
have
so
quiet
legend.
My
name
is
gonna,
be
on
my
child's
car.
She,
my
name
or
her
car.
She
gets
a
car
she's
going
to
work,
her
car's
a
20-17
car.
J
She
nearly
had
no
tickets,
but
the
department
parking
authority
is
going
to
cross
with
him
because
my
name
is
on
her
car
this
until
her
car.
So
she
can't
go
to
work
like
I've
been
saying
most
of
our
children
work
outside
of
the
city,
because
they
can't
get
a
job
in
the
city.
So
now
she
can't
go
to
Langhorne
where
she
can
work
and
earn
a
decent
living
more
than
725
an
hour
that
that
chop
like
pays
them
with
no
benefits.
So
she
goes
out
of
the
city.
J
I
J
J
I
said
oh
I
better
get
out
here
and
get
some
more
time,
so
I
go
out,
put
some
more
money
in
the
Kia
which
my
time
here
and
out
yet,
but
I
get
some
more
put
it
in
a
Kia
get
another
ticket
put
it
in
in
my
car.
Go
back
to
my
event.
The
event
ends:
I
come
out.
I
got
about
30,
more
minutes
on
my
time
and
from
the
Kia,
but
there's
a
ticket
on
my
car.
J
The
guys
walking
down
the
street
I'm
yo-yo
come
back
here.
What
I
opened
my
car
I
go
in
and
I
get
the
ticket.
I
said.
Why
would
you
give
me
a
ticket
I
got
30
more
minutes.
Oh
well,
I
said
call
your
supervisor
supervisor
gets
on
the
phone.
He
said
when
she
got
a
ticket
they
give
more.
I
must
have
made
a
mistake.
He
says
well,
I
can't
come
over
there
until
30
45
minutes
to
an
hour
well
who
to
go
and
wait
around
for
another
hours
for
somebody
to
come
and
early.
J
J
One
thing:
I
ain't
is
stupid:
I
took
a
copy
of
that
and
the
ticket
then
I
stapled
it
and
sent
it
in
now
in
the
$38
ticket
that
I
got
30
days
later
went
to
a
hundred,
and
one
dollar
and
I
got
a
summons
in
the
mail
to
come
down,
because
my
I
need
to
do
a
hearing,
because
this
ticket
then
went
up
to
a
hundred
and
one
dollars.
Now,
then
what
I
was
instructed
to
do?
I
go
to
the
hearing.
I
make
a
turn
for
the
hearing.
J
My
hearing
time
is
at
11
o'clock,
I
get
there
10:30
and
I
said
for
two
and
a
half
hours
for
a
hearing
I
get
into
the
hearing.
She
says
this
one
is
I
said
well,
I
explained
her
what
happened
and
here's
my
copy
I
said:
I'd
stapled
it
and
sent
it
in.
They
don't
have
it
well.
If
you
got
the
ticket,
you
have
to
get
it
because
it
was
staple,
they
don't
have
it
so
I
show
them
my
sticker
and
a
copy
of
the
ticket.
J
In
five
minutes
the
ticket
was
dismissed,
but
in
this
process
I
found
out
that
there
was
tickets
on
a
vehicle
that
I
know
me
aware
of
because
my
car
was
stolen.
It
was
crashed
up
one
time
so
I'm
not
aware
this
and
from
1986
now
they
never
asked
me
did
I
want
to
make
a
payment
plan.
She
just
said,
but
this
ticket
is
dismissed
and
that's
all
I'm
dealing
with
and
I
walked
out
of
it.
That's
the
second
third
thing:
I'm
gonna
get
to
one
more.
J
And
they
threw
around
85
million
107
million.
What
the
poor
kids
are
not
going
to
get
for
the
school
of
the
of
the
leftover
money.
I've
talked
to
people
who
walked
in
there
and
they
told
them
that
they
wanted
them
to
give
them
ten
thousand
dollars,
which
is
supposed
to
be
half
of
whatever.
The
fines
and
penalties
are
old
ain't
no
interest,
but
the
fines
and
penalties
on
five
ticket.
This
woman
had
from
1992
went
to
$10,000.
J
$10,000,
all
the
tickets
together
came
to
250
dollars
later
to
get
the
ten
thousand
ballast
parking
authority
or
thugs
and
we're
here
today,
this
one
was
filled
up
before
everybody
had
to
go
off,
but
we
got.
We
are
sticking
together
on
this
one.
We
will
do
whatever.
Whenever,
however,
and
however
much
cost
to
finish
up
this,
we
say
three
years.
We
don't
even
want
to
give
him
five
years.
We
say
we
are
support,
a
build
number
one,
six,
zero
one,
one
one
as
it
is
stated.
Thank
you.
A
Q
Pa
the
parking
authority,
what
you
know
you
got
to
know
something
about
a
history,
because
you
know
everything
happens
in
history
way.
It
started
when
they
came
in
they
came
in
was
they
was
going
to
help
the
school?
Then
they
came
in
start
doing
different
things
and
now,
all
of
a
sudden,
the
poor
people,
everybody
who
lived
working.
You
know
you.
You
want
to
know
why
the
city
is
so
poor.
The
parking
authority
is
a
part
of
making
this
city
one
of
the
poor
city
in
the
country
because
of
parking
authority.
Q
Q
Because
it's
about
the
money
and
the
parking
authority
right
now
are
planning
to
do
part-time
workers,
so
you
get
part-time
workers,
they
have
more
people
to
just
strip
it
around
and
get
more
money,
but
unit
you're,
not
paying
this.
The
same
amount,
but
you
getting
a
part-time,
so
you
can
double
the
capacity
that
you
would
do
with
a
full-time.
Q
So
the
system,
right
now
with
the
parking
authority,
is
gangsters
and
is
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia
I
bought
them
in
and
they
have
no
control
over
them
there
because
they're
in
anytime
something
big
like
this
happened
and
they
gave
us
in
the
right
people
down
here
with
the
information.
That's
disrespectful
and
the
people
they've
been
running
the
city
to
poor
people.
People
have
been
here
for
years
and
years,
and
then
they
see
this
is
what
the
parking
authority
do
to,
and
this
is
what
the
city
did,
because
it
can't
be
all
about
money.
Q
He
got
to
be
about
the
people
who
started
and
was
he
fighting
for
things
to
get
better
and
then,
on
the
other
end
that
they
no
longer
being
used
or
needed.
It's
the
same.
The
way
the
parking
authority
comes
off
the
way
they
come
on.
When
you
go
to
try
to
deal
with
the
parking
authority,
you
can't
really
get
nothing.
Do
because
want
people.
My
president
say
this
and
another
person
say
yeah.
So
you
know
you
don't
know
who
to
talk
to
about
a
ticket
or
anything
else.
Q
That's
my
statement
for
today
and
I
hope,
there's
I,
hope
two
years
and
be
satisfied
for
those
that
come,
but
when
the
parking
authority
heavy
down
for
hearing
they
know,
eighty
percent
of
the
people
ain't
coming
through
here
only
the
20
percent
that
comes
right
when
some
of
their
money
bad
and
it's
not
the
parking
authority.
Money
is
the
people's
money,
but
they
act
like
there's
money
older,
though
from
you
that's
my
statement.
Q
Afternoon,
Councilwoman
Arnett
what
all
NW
community
solutions
inside
of
your
chambers.
Today,
you
have
community
leaders
from
across
this
city,
representing
not
just
your
constituents,
but
our
constituents
also
because
we
work
for
them,
and
we
are
here
because
we
are
tired
of
the
poverty
rate
being
the
highest
in
the
country
for
big
cities,
and
we
know
what
drives
it
and
what
feeds
it.
Q
And
there's
organizations
and
operations
just
like
this,
when
a
person
wakes
up
in
the
morning
to
go
to
work
and
they
come
out
of
their
home
with
their
car
to
put
their
children
in
the
car
to
go
to
work,
and
they
cannot
go
to
work
because
that
boot
has
been
car
twelve
o'clock
at
night.
They're
not
expecting
that
in
the
morning,
if
those
everybody's
day
off
the
children
can't
go
to
school,
so
forth
and
so
forth.
Q
But
the
number
that
we
also
want
to
know
is
this
lawyer
that
sat
here
a
minute
ago
told
you
about
an
operation
inside
of
this
operation.
That
is
totally
illegal
and
we
also
might
be
of
staging
a
class
action
lawsuit
against
some
Fortis,
because
when
they
take
and
sell
those
vehicles
and
then
they
don't
give
the
constituents
and
the
people
that
they've
taken
these
vehicles
from
they
give
them
no
credit
towards
the
money,
that's
old
towards
those
tickets.
They
keep
every
dime
of
it.
That's
criminal.
Q
Q
A
Q
When
they
take
your
car
and
they
boot,
your
car,
like
the
lawyer,
stated-
and
they
take
an
impounded
it-
you
can't
get
your
car
back.
If
you
don't
have
the
money
to
get
your
car
back
and
they
take
it
to
the
auction
and
auction
it
off.
You
get
no
credit
towards
your
tickets,
so
you
still
owed
a
full
amount
for
the
tickets
to
penalties
everything
they
deduct,
nothing.
That
is
robbery
and
it's
been
going
on.
Since
the
parking
authority
has
been
in
existence.
Q
Q
O
Q
So
we
would
like
to
know
that
number
also.
Another
thing
that's
happening
that
they're
not
talking
about
is
once
these
people
get
on
this
payment
plan
and
they
can't
maintain
that
payment
plan.
Their
registrations
are
being
voided
by
PennDOT
and
then
they
have
to
pay
to
get
that
reinstated
also,
and
it's
making
it
harder
for
people
to
be
able
to
go
to
work
because
now
their
registration
is
suspended.
Q
That
practice
needs
to
stop,
because
it's
disenfranchising
people
and
it's
keeping
people
from
these
low
income
communities
disenfranchised
and
unincluded,
because
they
can't
go
to
work
so
they're
not
included
in
the
process
of
going
to
work.
They
can't
get
their
children
that
they
care
they're,
not
included
in
the
process,
and
it's
all
about
inclusion.
Also.
We
want
to
be
included
and
we
want
to
be
included
in
this
whole
process.
We
will
not
go
away
on
this
issue.
We
promise
you
that.
A
A
P
Good
afternoon,
chairman
Blackwell
members
of
the
Finance
Committee
Councilman,
asked
me
today
to
look
into
the
city's
tax
amnesty
program
that
was
sponsored
by
Councilman
Krajewski
back
in
2009,
and
at
the
time
there
were
about
a
billion
dollars
in
uncollected
taxes.
The
the
collection
was
about
for
the
city
placed
put
in
place,
an
amnesty
that
was
in
effect
for
45
days,
which
would
have
allowed
people
to
pay
their
delinquent
tax,
with
forgiveness
of
the
a
hundred
percent
of
the
penalties
and
fifty
percent
of
the
interest
it
brought
in
in
excess
of
40
million
dollars.
P
There's
it's
just
a
philosophy,
question
about
whether
that
money
would
have
come
in
eventually
or
not.
This
was
modeled
after
a
program
in
New
Jersey,
which
produced
about
six
hundred
million
dollars
in
collections.
I
was
very
supportive
of
what
Krajewski
did
my
view.
Was
it's
theoretical
whether
or
not
it
would
have
come
in?
Otherwise,
one
of
the
problems
is
that
these
things
tend
to
pile
up
in
the
same
way
that
payday
loans.
Do
you
get
a
ticket
from
the
parking
authority?
P
If
you
don't
pay
it
within
30
within
15
days,
then
you
get
go
to
the
next
level
and
then
after
30
days
and
pretty
soon
you're
paying
several
hundred
dollars
in
something
that
may
have
originated
as
a
$25
ticket.
So,
given
the
the
hardship
with
which
the
people
who
are
impacted
by
this
have
in
raising
that
kind
of
money,
I
think
would
be
more
efficient
to
provide
an
opportunity
periodically.
P
I
P
P
We
thought
10%
would
come
in
four
and
a
half
percent
came
in
the
the
work
done
by
our
office,
since
that
time
is
indicated
that
the
real
level
of
collectable
unpaid
taxes
is
more
like
two
hundred
to
three
hundred
million
dollars,
not
a
billion
dollars,
it's
kind
of
like
the
billion
dollars
in
uncollected
bail
that
turned
out
to
be
like
a
million
dollars.
So
no.
I
Reason,
I,
the
school
district
and
the
administration
was
basing
their
numbers
on
the
impact
of
this
bill
and
I
know
this
is
done
usual.
This
is
usual
way
to
do
it.
They
were
facing
that
everybody
would
participate,
they
could,
which
is
obviously
now
realistically
not
going
to
happen,
because
some
people
may
not
be
with
us
anymore.
They
could
participate.
So
I
was
just
wondering
if
and
it's
even
though
it's
a
different
program.
I
was
wondering
if
there
was.
P
A
K
A
A
Up
and
for
coming
one
of
my
folks
just
a
copy
of
a
resolution
that
happened
on
John
Street
era,
where
they
talked
about
20
million
dollars
for
people
who
lost
their
license
and
Mike
stack
in
Harrisburg,
who
looked
that
up?
So
there's
an
ongoing
issue
with
the
public
being
victimized
by
our
authorities
who
charged
them
all
this
money
and
he
asked
them.
He
urged
John
Street
did
the
Commonwealth
to
establish
an
amnesty
program
so
we're
not
out
of
order.
A
We
in
order
for
trying
to
do
something
to
make
life
difference
for
all
of
you
who
live
and
work
here
and
who
are
trying
to
survive
so
I.
Thank
you,
Jeff
for
giving
us
this
info
I'll
pass
it
around,
make
copies
and
pass
it
around
as
all
to
all,
and
let
me
tell
our
controller
that
we
will
also
give
them
copies
of
this
information.
They
passed
out
that
we
here
is
not
in
fact,
true
and-
and
so
we
want
the
controller
to
look
at
where
they
talk
about
this
18.
What
did
they
say?
A
J
Rochelle
Bulow,
we
was
here
at
the
meeting
that
was
cancelled
yeah
there
was
an
agreement
made
with
the
parking
authority
not
to
be
going
up
blocks
and
and
in
Boonton
box
of
blocks
of
cars.
Well,
the
parking
authority
rerd
up
their
cross,
referencing
and
and
their
rearing
up.
They
almost
like
the
retaliation
targeting
now
they
done
reared
up
there
we
hit
a
nail
out
in
full
force
after
we
had
that
little
agreement
with
them.
So
they
have
you
stop
they
are
more
enforcing.
J
So
that's
a
tell
you
that
I'm,
clear
and
most
people
know
where
I
live.
That
and
I
got
a
camera
front
and
back
of
my
house
and
guess
who
I
see
lurking
around
my
house
in
the
middle
of
the
night,
the
targeted
people
they
want
to
target
my
car,
but
I
like
come
on
my
property
and
you
got
a
problem.
Does
mine
is
on
my
property,
not
city
property,
so
they
wear
their
ugly
heads
up.
J
A
Thank
you.
While
we
ask
new
yeri
parks,
Carl
Jones
dairies
in
the
Tao
pastor,
Pam
Williams,
to
come
forward.
We
will
note.
Yes,
they
agreed
to
not
tell
more
than
two
from
a
block
because
they
would
tell
them
blocks
blocks
and
blocks
and
neighborhoods
and
neighborhoods
and
neighborhoods,
and
they
agreed
not
to
do
it.
During
this
the
two
weeks
we
had
to
wait
for
this
year.
A
R
I'm,
sorry,
hello,
everybody,
my
name
is
Cole
ng
Hashim
I'm,
a
lifelong
resident
of
Philadelphia
I've,
actually
lived
in
two
other
states
as
well
for
a
short
period
of
time,
and
just
with
my
experience
from
traveling
up
and
down
the
East
Coast
I've
never
seen
tactics
for
retrieving
money
for
parking
tickets.
The
way
that
Philadelphia
Parking
Authority
does
it's
just
the
fact
that
I'm
currently
actually
on
a
payment
plan
from
tickets
from
2003?
And
the
thing
is,
is
that
Councilwoman?
You
could
look
at
my
name.
R
My
name
is
not
a
typical
name:
it's
not
Michael
Brown
or
something
it's
African,
slash
Islamic
name.
However,
when
I
present
my
information,
it's
on
my
license
is
documented,
as
spelled
correctly
so
with
that
being
said,
my
car
was
booted
in
2014
for
tickets
or
whatever
so
well.
My
car
was
immobilized.
You
basically
have
to
pay
whatever
you
owed
outstanding
from
whatever
year
as
it
is
before
they
release
your
vehicle.
R
So
at
that
time,
when
my
car
was
released,
I
paid
off
everything
that
was
under
my
name
for
to
my
knowledge
and
they
presented
to
me
during
that
time
they
released
my
vehicle
I
want
to
say
three
weeks
three
months
ago,
my
car
again
it
was
a
live
stopped,
so
I
went
through
the
whole
process.
Do
with
my
car
being
live,
stop
going
to
traffic
court
on
spring
guard
and
paying
them
off
sitting
in
basically
judge's
chambers
or
whatever.
That's
basically
going
through
the
process,
do
to
get
my
car
release.
R
Lo
and
behold
before
I'm
able
to
leave
the
building,
I
have
to
see
Big,
Bad
PPA
and,
of
course,
they
have
tickets
from
2003
that
I
supposedly
old
for
I'm,
so
flabbergasted
the
fact
that
it's
$2,000
worth
of
tickets,
but
the
thing
is,
is
that
I
know
for
a
fact
in
2014
I
paid
off
everything
that
was
under
my
name,
meaning
that
it
shouldn't
have
been
no
other
tickets
under
my
name
I'm,
so
flabbergasted
about
paying
$2,000
I'm
asking
for
questions.
They
can't
bring
in
the
right
supervisor
to
provide
me
the
information
that
I
need.
R
I
leave
leaders
direct
me
to
go
down
to
temp
and
Philbert
the
next
day,
so
the
next
day
I
happen
to
look
at
the
paperwork
as
I'm
leaving
they
spelled
my
name
wrong.
So
basically,
I
have
tickets
under
my
name,
but
it's
spelt.
Three
letters
are
missing
out
of
my
name
now.
This
is
not
a.
This
is
a
clerical
error.
This
is
not
an
error
on
my
behalf,
because
when
I
sign,
my
name
I
sign
my
name
correctly.
What's
on
my
state-issued
ID
is
my
name
spelled
correctly.
However,
this
is
a
mistake
on
PPAs
behalf.
R
R
Then,
when
I
presented
that
that
to
them,
then
they
said
well,
despite
the
fact
it
was
a
clerical
error,
I'm
still
responsible
for
paying
for
the
tickets
from
back
in
2003,
and
it's
just
like
how
can
I
pay
for
something
when
my
car
was
immobilized
three
years
prior
and
I
was
told
at
that
time
that
everything
was
clear
under
my
name,
however,
they
made
a
mistake
and
he
misspelled
my
name,
which
is
no
fault
of
mine,
I'm
still
responsible
for
paying,
for
that
I
mean
I.
Just
feel
like
that.
R
A
A
You
and
we
have
about
after
this,
we
we
probably
have
two
groups
yet
to
call
I'm
trying
to
hold
on
the
Councilman
Reynolds
Brown.
So
can
you
all
try
to
limit
it,
as
one
of
my
colleagues
said?
Maybe
do
two
minutes
if
we're
not
being
unfair
and
we
can
get
everybody
in.
Thank
you
very
much.
Reverend
Pam
Williams.
F
Councilwoman
Pamela
Williams,
better
known
as
pastor
Pam
I,
want
to
first
applaud
you
Councilwoman
mr.
Heenan
and
mr.
Fenton
in
your
office
will
tell
you
that
I
have
called
your
office
several
times
for
several
of
my
vehicles.
The
parking
authority
owes
me
money.
I
ought
to
file
the
parking
authority
on
my
taxes,
the
what
happened
to
me
and
I
have
proof
is
unconscionable.
F
Councilwoman
Reynolds.
The
parking
authority
needs
to
be
completely
and
unequivocally
audited.
My
vehicle
and
one
month
was
towed,
routed
and
towed
on
three
separate
occasions.
I
know
that
I
hope
architects
I
have
gone
down.
Trying
to
negotiate,
it
is
not
is.
It
is
substance
to
me
that
they
do
not
have
a
plan
for
ministers
and
pastors
in
this
city
and
each
time
you
go
to
the
hospital.
Are
you
dropping
somebody
also
you're
doing
something
they're
giving
me
a
ticket,
so
I
don't
remove
myself
from
the
fact
that
I
have
tickets
council
Councilwoman?
F
The
fact
is
that
they
are.
How
can
I
say
it
they
gangsters,
they
are
really
gangsters.
They
are
thieves.
Every
time
I
go
I,
make
a
payment
plan,
I
give
them
about.
Two
grand
were-
and
you
can
you
could
check
my
record
about
two
grand
and
they
do
it.
Cuz
sistent
Lee,
around
income
tax,
return
time,
they'll
come
out
and
they'll
build
a
whole
block
of
cars.
You
can
go
down
from
53rd
and
Spruce
Street
to
54th
Street
Councilwoman
in
your
district
and
you'll,
see
a
row
of
cars.
F
Just
booted
go
down
and
turn
down
lucky
street.
You
see
another
five
cars
booted
go
down
to
55th
Street.
You
see
another
three
cars
booted,
it's
just
like
it's
a
science
with
them
and
it's
wrong
Councilwoman.
These
miss
Philadelphia,
Parking
Authority,
and
you
know
that
they
have
been
inundated
with
mismanagement
and
financial
mismanagement
and
corruption
and
everything
else.
It's
a
damn.
Shame
what
they
do
and
I
know
I
just
cursed
because
I'm
mad
as
hell,
because
they
did
it
to
me.
F
Just
for
example,
they
told
one
of
my
cars
and
night
I
love
cars,
I'm
y'all
might
as
well
know
that
about
me,
so
I
might
had
three
or
four
at
a
time
because
I
know
they
might
be
Hootie's
whatever,
but
I
love
cars.
So
they
told
one
of
my
cars
on
the
set
on
the
3rd
of
July
and
while
I'm
at
a
ministerial
conference,
they
told
another
car
and
booted
I
go
to
retrieve
my
car.
The
only
way
I
can
get
my
car
back.
F
So
the
fact
that
the
matter
is
they
towed
my
car,
the
17th
of
July,
why
I'm
out
of
town
and
I
said
to
heck
with
I'm,
not
gonna
work,
I'm
not
go
saying
bye
down
there,
I'll
come
back
in
town,
go
down
there
and
try
to
retrieve
my
car
call
my
attorney.
He
said.
Well,
if
you
don't
have
$8,000,
then
just
file
bankruptcy
and
file
bankruptcy
and
get
it
all
off
for
youth
right
now
then
we'll
deal
with
it
so
I
did
that
went
down,
showed
them
the
form
that
I
filed
bankruptcy.
F
They
wouldn't
release
my
car
saying
that
the
tag
that's
on
the
car
was
not
registered
in
the
state
of
Pennsylvania
help.
My
hostage
head
up
my
vehicle
hostage
for
one
solid
move.
One
month,
I
had
to
go
to
the
Pennsylvania
State
Police
I
had
to
go
to
the
Pacifica
Ford
dealer
and
I
had
to
wait
to
get
a
new
tag.
I
asked
the
world
you're
saying
that
my
tag
doesn't
match,
but
it
is
registered
instead
at
state
preservation.
Why
can't
I
told
my
vehicle
out,
they
told
me
I
could
not
better
yet.
F
Let
me
tell
you
why
you
need
to
order
them
and
I
have
all
my
evidence
right
here.
They
sent
me
a
letter
in
the
mail
on
the
after
30
days,
telling
me
that
my
vehicle
would
be
told
within
that
30-day
period
and
I
want
y'all
to
listen,
because
sometimes
y'all
councilmen
don't
care
about
what's
affecting
people
but
I'm
telling
you
Councilwoman.
F
You
did
a
great
thing
now,
because
this
one
I
got
because
they
have
taken
seven
cars
from
me
seven
and
they
took
one
two
weeks
ago
and
I
was
too
weak
and
too
depressed
to
fund
it.
But
they
took
my
vehicle
from
in
front
of
my
door
that
only
had
two
tickets
on
it,
but
because
they
wanted
my
money,
they
told
my
vehicle
sent
me
a
letter
and
said
that
we
want
to
let
you
know
that
your
car
we'll
sold
their
auction
I
asked
them.
F
Could
I
go
back
now
and
say
I'm
there
at
the
parking
authority
or
Essington
Avenue
trying
to
retrieve
my
vehicle
I
asked
them.
Can
I
go
back
and
empty
the
items
out
of
my
vehicle
I'm
standing
there
with
a
letter
saying
that
they've
sold
my
car
auction
I
go
back
to
get
my
stuff
out
my
vehicle
and
take
pictures.
My
vehicle
is
sitting
in
the
back.
It
has
not
been
auctioned,
that's
why
they
need
to
be
audited
because
they
sent
me
a
letter.
That
was
a
lie.
F
So
my
thing
here
is
I
know
amnesty
and
yes,
you
should
do
amnesty,
you
should
cuz
I
got
the
bills.
I
got
I
got
things
in
here.
I
never
lived
in
some
of
these
addresses,
but
they
holding
it
to
my
account
and
they
don't
want
to
listen
to
you
when
you
go
down
there
and
then,
when
you
get
indignant,
they
want
to
call
the
shots
and
put
you
out
and
it's
wrong.
So
I
stay
I'm
here
today
for
the
people
and
I'm
fighting
because
I've
been
through
this
and
it's
wrong.
It's
a
travesty.
It's
unfair!
F
It's
illegal!
You
can't
help
my
my
property
and
you
can't
you
can't
confiscate
my
property
without
a
legal
bound
binding
and
they
didn't
have
a
legal
binding
to
hold
it.
So
this
is
what
happens
in
our
city
and
so
I
asked
you
to
enter
a
moratorium
against
the
Philadelphia
Parking
Authority.
Mr
Hayden.
You
don't
need
to
ask
for
no,
no
all
that
stuff
they
wrong.
They
don't
have
it
she'd
been
there
27
years
and
I'll
do
respect
to
her.
F
If
you
can't
come
here,
prepare
when
somebody
tells
you
they're
gonna
pass
a
bill
on
you,
then
he'll.
You
got
a
problem
when
you
ask
me
to
come
down
to
talk
about
my
tax.
Amnesty
I
have
to
bring
my
ID
I
have
to
bring
my
our
peaceful
proof
of
income.
I
have
to
bring
my
utility
bills
and
I
have
to
rather
to
sit
at
the
table
to
make
a
deal.
They
ain't
ready.
So
we
need
a.
F
We
need
a
moratorium
or
them
do
it
anything,
get
them
off
the
street
I,
don't
care
about
them,
patroness
jobs
that
they
give
people
this
wrong,
they're,
walking
on
streets
and
they're,
stalking
our
citizens
and
they
are
creating
a
bad
environment
for
people
just
for
a
dog,
all
parking
tickets.
It's
more
guns!
We
should
be
worried
about
this.
Some
dog
parking
tickets
and
yeah
I'm
gonna
tell
you
that
I
wanted
to
say
this.
F
We
need
to
shut
the
parking
authority
down
from
issuing
tickets
boots
are
tolling
and
auctioning
off
people's
cars,
and,
let
me
tell
you
so
y'all
know
this
part
to
Blondell
cuz.
You
seem
really
interested
what
you
do
is
when
you
go
and
they
don't
when
they
auction
your
car
off
at
the
auction
centers.
They
got
four
auctions
in
our
biggest
for
three
or
four
across
the
city.
F
So
when
they
auction
your
car
off,
what
they
do
is
they
have
people
at
the
auction
who
are
people
who
go
and
resell
your
cars
at
dealerships
so
so
hustle
and
we
can't
get
a
good
deal
or
a
good
bid
on
a
car
cuz.
These
people
are
there
that
puck
is
full
of
money.
We've
already
got
the
call
that
we're
auctioning
off
for
2006
Mercedes.
We
auction
it
off
for
Tahoe.
We
auction
this
off
and
they're
they're
ready.
F
F
Q
Are
you
doing
a
counselor
chairwoman?
Well,
my
name
is
Carl
Jones
and
I'm,
a
representative
of
the
one,
nine
one,
four,
zero
shooting
zip
code,
and
what
we're
seeing
here
is.
Basically,
you
know,
purposeful
oppression
of
the
targeted
disenfranchised
group
I
think
it's
been
well
Illustrated
just
by
the
members
of
the
people,
that
of
the
community
that
came
out
today
about
who's
being
affected
by
these
draconian
policies
that
have
been
put
in
place
by
the
parking
authority.
Q
Now
there
was
an
article
recently
in
the
Philadelphia
Daily
News,
where
the
interim
deputy,
the
interim
director
clerk
lorina
Thompson,
reinstituted
this
policy
recently,
where
they
would
go
back
and
trace
the
tickets
for
all
the
you
know:
different
tags
for
the
cars
that
belonged
to
different
owners
for
the
last.
However
long
you
own
the
car,
and
so
with
this
what's
been
going
on,
is
heaven
on
witch-hunt
in
our
neighborhoods
in
our
communities,
whereas
the
sisters
just
stated
clearly,
you
can
go
up
and
down
the
blocks
of
North
Philadelphia
Northwest
North,
Philadelphia,
West,
Philadelphia,
Southwest
Philadelphia.
Q
You
know
the
parts
of
South
Philadelphia
that
are
predominantly
black
and
brown
neighborhoods,
and
you
will
see
the
enforcement
of
the
park
of
the
third.
You
will
feel
their
presence.
However,
you
go
to
other
neighborhoods
in
this
community.
You
can't
go
if
you
go
south
of
Broad
Street
on
Washington
Avenue,
you
could
park
in
the
middle
of
the
street
and
nobody
your
offer
your
ticket.
In
fact
those
tickets
would
get
rescinded.
Q
So
what
you
have
is
you
know
that
they
have
this
booting
blitz,
going
on
where
the
booting
cars
in
our
communities,
but
yet
and
still
I,
just
have
a
question.
The
part
of
the
30.
Do
they
pay
taxes,
they
pay
taxes
every
year,
my
correct
the
you
pay
taxes.
So
as
a
business
that
pays
taxes
whenever
a
business
has
losses,
don't
you
write
those
taxes
off?
Don't
you
write
those
losses
off?
What
are
you
doing?
Sending
people
builders
for
the
kids
that
you
have
already
written
off
and
that
are
accounted
for
by
the
IRS
see?
Q
So
what
you
have
here
is
a
Ponzi
scheme
where
they
doubling
down
on
their
money
and
see.
This
is
why
they
can't
come
forth
and
tell
you
about
what's
going
on
in
their
books,
because
they
don't
know
when
it's
been
written
off
and
what
they're
counting
two
times.
So
these
are
some
of
the
things
that's
happening
and
we
have.
This
is
the
brother
was
taking
a
lot
of
phantom
tickets,
because
I
too
was
buted
in
2006
and
then
received
another
ticket
on
that
car
later
that
year?
Q
Q
The
payments
that
have
been
made
that
there's
that's
not
showing
up
in
their
system
because
they
may
have
misspelled
somebody's
name
or
because
they
may
have
written
down
the
wrong
number
somehow
and
then
so
they're
putting
those
things
on
to
us
and
what
you're
doing
you're
talking
about
bringing
these
issues
to
the
community.
Bringing
these
issues
to
the
community
because
supposedly
this
is
about
protecting
the
children
in
the
school
district.
Q
But
how
can
you
protect
the
children
in
the
school
district
when
you're
killing
a
community
that
supplies
the
children
for
the
schools
with
these
bills
and
you're
doing
it
at
a
time
of
the
year?
That
we
all
know
is
the
most
sinful
and
stressful
time
of
the
year
where
people
are
suffering
on
a
spike
in
mental
health.
Mental
illnesses
and
crisis
is
this:
is
documented
and
you're,
adding
another
tax
burden
to
them
or
shut
off
notice
of
sort
that
that
causes
people
anxiety,
because
you
can't
pay
any
of
your
bills.
Q
If
you
can't
get
to
work,
you
can't
pay
any
of
the
back
payments.
If
you
can't
get
the
work
and
then
they
want
to
talk
about
not
giving
amnesty
when
they
can't
even
come
up
with
accurate
figures
who
what
they
up
for
what
we
owe
supposedly
speaking
and
the
numbers
that
you
can
see,
they
just
put
the
numbers
out
of
the
year,
so
I'm
calling
for
a
freeze
on
the
beating
and
all
texts
are
an
amendment,
a
moratorium
or
all
of
their
policies.
Q
From
this
day
forward,
I'm
hoping
we
can
get
an
injunction
from
a
judge
sometime
in
the
next
few
days
to
stop
the
parking
authority
from
from
going
around
and
with
this
beauty
blitz.
That's
obviously
a
ploy
from
Corina
Thompson,
the
new
Deputy
Director
in
order
to
get
to
become
a
full-time
director.
This
is
what
she's
doing
to
boost
revenue
for
the
parking
authority
and
I'm,
saying
that
you
know
we
need
to
call
off
the
witch
hunt
until
you
know
we
can
get
some
resolution
on
this
issue.
Thank.
F
L
A
A
It's
Sarah
Moore
here
no
Sarah,
Moore,
Angela
Smith.
All
right
you'll
be
the
second
group
Adam
Roach
Rotch
right,
okay,
Deborah,
Willis,
okay
and
Robert
Stroud,
more
I
promise
I
knew
you
had
to
go
I'm,
sorry!
So
those
are
the
last
two
groups
and
we
thank
you
all
for
your
patience.
Councilwoman
Reynolds
Brown.
Yes,.
C
B
B
B
B
You
so
sometimes
when
a
person
purchases
a
vehicle,
they
get
a
title
to
that
vehicle,
but
they
don't
play
follow
through
and
I'm,
not
saying
that
happening
this
time,
I'm
just
saying
what
could
happen,
they
think
if
they
do
not
take
that
title
to
a
local,
PennDOT
and
transfer
it
suppose,
you
sold
me
your
car
that
in
and
assign
a
plate
to
it.
Then
it's
not
going
to
be
properly
registered
in
the
state
of
Pennsylvania.
L
C
B
F
B
Don't
know
I
don't
know,
I
would
have
I
think
we
would
have
to
take
that
history
because
I'm
confused
myself
I
agree.
If
your
plate
is
getting
tickets,
then
that
has
to
be
a
sign
of
naming
the
address
or
sending
you
notices.
It
wouldn't
come
up
that
what
they
caught.
They
call
it
a
plate
that
when
a
a
letter
goes
down,
it's
returned
that
that
owner
doesn't
exist
that
doesn't
get
into
the
beautiful
status.
Now
a
factly,
that's
not
registered
to
anybody
parks
and
say
no
stop
in
a
rush
hour.
B
You
could
get
what
we
called
street
tude
and
it
could
end
up
in
the
appellant
lot.
It's
not
necessarily
booted.
So
it's
a
pet
there's
a
million
circumstances,
and
in
order
to
answer
that
question
I
think
we
need
to
sit
down
with
the
lady
and
find
out
what
exactly
happened,
because,
as
we
see
you're
gonna
have
a
big
record.
You've
been
booted
into
that
on
several
occasions,
so
we're
gonna
have
to
look
through
a
lot
of
stuff
and
see
how
that
happened.
I'm.
B
Just
a
lot
of
times
in
the
orbit
to
answer
a
question
because,
as
we
see
today,
a
lot
of
people
have
unique
stories
of
what
happened
and
how
it
happened
and
how
many
cars
they
have,
and
sometimes
you
have
a
father
with
this
unseen.
First
and
last
name,
it
doesn't
have
a
junior
or
senior
assigned
to
it,
so
you're
confusing
John
McLaughlin
with
John
McLaughlin
who's,
the
son
and
as
that
gentleman
testified,
he
was
only
14
in
1988.
B
So
of
course
it's
not
him,
but
as
when
you
go
down
the
bureau
of
administrative
adjudication,
they
have
to
decipher
that
and
figure
out.
It's
a
lot
of
history.
Behind
a
lot
of
these
tickets.
I
don't
think
we've
had
a
single
person
today
show
up
that
said:
I
have
one
ticket
and
I
didn't
pay.
These
are
all
that
have
multiple
plates,
multiple
cars,
multiple
tickets,
a
lot
of
history
behind
it.
So
we
can't
just
answer
this
vanilla
answer.
This
is
what
happens
down
there.
C
B
L
D
B
D
A
A
A
Right
we
got
Wayne
Williams,
John,
Evans,
Kim,
Chapman
and
Robert
William
stancy
come
forward.
After
that
we
have
one
other
group
Councilwoman
Reynolds
Brown.
We
know
you're
going
to
the
school
district,
so
you'll
have
to
fill
me
in
on
what
happens
when
they
agreed
to
step
down
I'll
call
you
later
or
tomorrow.
Thank
you.
A
A
Q
Q
Not
only
should
it
be
the
amnesty
agreement,
but
for
those
people
like
myself,
who
paid
off
an
agreement
from
1992
to
be
reimbursed
I
want
my
money
back,
I
went
for
it.
I
tested
the
hospital
when
I
came
out.
My
car
was
gone
and
I
thought
I'd
miss
this
place.
The
car
forgot
where
I
parked
when
he
actually
was
told
it
just
happened
to
be
a
new
car,
so
I
had
a
new
car.
Q
So
when
I
went
to
pay
the
ticket
off
just
told
me:
I
hold
a
whole
lot
more
money
and
when
I
went
from
the
parking
authority
to
pick
the
car
up,
they
had
a
totally
different
figure.
So
I
had
to
take
out
exhaust
a
credit
card,
take
out
a
loan
and
then
start
working
for
we
were
to
pay
the
payments
through
I
agreements.
I
think
that's
totally
unfair.
Q
The
tickets
from
1992
we're
talking
about
a
quality
of
life
issues,
it's
not
something
that
that
we
took
from
the
parking
authority,
wheel,
parking
or
streets
that
were
free
and
they're
charging
us
for
parking
on
the
streets.
So
we
don't
really
all
the
money.
Think
it's
just
a
matter
of
the
city,
oh
brother,
you
love
showing
brotherly
love
instead
of
a
brotherly
snob
and
sisterly
rejection.
These
are
quality
of
life
issues
and
we
should
not
be
gangster
eyes
and
hell
victim
by
the
parking
authority.
D
O
Know
my
name's
John
Evans
I
just
heard
about
the
amnesty
program.
Last
night,
I
was
sent
to
text
so
I
came
down
here
at
12:30
1:00
o'clock
I
was
trying
to
figure
out
what
was
going
to
be
done,
because
I
also
had
a
run-in
with
PPA
after
coming
out
of
prison
in
2008,
and
it
was
a
situation
where
they
told
me
that
I
had
14
thousand
dollars
worth
four
tickets
accumulated
from
1993
all
just
from
1993.
O
O
Do
you
know,
dispute
everything
regarding
my
issue
and
I
was
told,
get
on
a
payment
plan
XYZ,
so
I
got
on
a
payment
plan
in
2008
and
I've
been
on
a
payment
plan
since
2008,
but
I've
been
back
and
forth
to
the
penitentiary
which
resulted
and
maybe
another
six
years
and
I've
been
home
33
days
and
I
still
owe
a
debt
of
$12,000
to
date
and
I
think
that's
totally
ridiculous
and
we
can
go
back
to
night,
2008
and
Brie
dispute.
How
was
it
possible
that
I
accumulated
14,000
dollars
worth
of
debt
in
the
year?
O
O
That's
basically,
you
know
what
I'm
trying
to
explain,
and
so
anything
like
regarding
amnesty
program.
I
just
need
to
be
a
part
of
it,
because
I
got
a
heavy
debt
on
my
hair
right
in
hell.
You
know
just
coming
home
again
and
it's
like
something
need
to
be
done
about
this
parking
authority,
because
they've
been
reckless
I've
seen
a
lot
hurt
a
lot
and
it's
like
something
needs
to
be
done
so
I'm
grateful
if
anything
y'all
could
do.
Regarding
the
people
Philadelphia.
You
know
I'm
saying
regarding
these
personal
issues.
Thank
you.
O
S
Name
is
Robert
Stoughton,
okay
and
like
most
of
the
people
here,
who
are
citizens
I,
believe
I'm
here,
because
there's
a
problem
with
the
parking
authority,
we
don't
need
to
go
over.
The
specifics.
I
have
a
whole
litany
of
specifics
that
people
in
the
council,
some
of
them,
are
aware-
and
they
look
at
me
and
go
I,
don't
have
an
answer.
The
bottom
line
is
I've,
been
talking
to
the
Philadelphia
Parking
Authority
for
weeks
and
I
can't
even
get
a
firm
number
to
pay
the
bill,
and
my
cars
are
on
the
boot
list.
S
S
That
includes
City
Council.
That
includes
the
state
that
includes
the
county
of
Philadelphia,
because
all
of
you
have
a
piece
of
this
when
I
go
to
the
parking
authority,
they
say
well,
the
city
said
this
and
then
I
come
back
and
they
say
well.
Yeah,
that's
true,
but
the
county
said
this.
Oh
wait
a
minute.
The
state
mandate
says
something
different
today,
we're
gonna
go
by
that
when
you
lose,
we
just
go
around
and
round
and
round
and
round
and
round
until
the
people
of
this
country
stand
up
and
hold
their
elected
officials
accountable.
S
H
H
S
Revived
this
is
exactly
what
I'm
trying
to
address.
I
may
have
been
specifically
off-base,
but
I
don't
feel
that
I'm
wrong.
We
in
this
country,
we
are
failing
as
citizens
to
hold
our
elected
officials
accountable,
and
it
starts
on
our
blocks
in
our
wards
in
our
council.
If
we
can't
solve
the
problems
with
the
parking
authority
with
our
school
districts,
how
can
we
have
the
moral
authority
to
have
a
foreign
policy
in
this
world?
That
makes
sense?
S
It
starts
at
the
bottom
and
we
as
individuals
need
to
stand
up
and
I
want
to
thank
Council
for
having
this
hearing
of
this
meeting,
because
what
you
refer
to
is
exactly
where
the
problem
really
stems
from
and
that's
why
what
you're
talking
about
is
why
all
these
people
go
down
there
and
all
they
get
is
go
this
way.
Go
that
way.
Go
this
way
come
back
again.
S
The
bottom
line
is
a
month
plus
in
I
can't
even
pay
the
bill
if
I
wanted
to,
and
they
have
tickets
against
me
for
vehicles,
I
never
owned
a
plate
that
was
stolen,
since
why
do
they
not
have
a
responsibility
to
look
at
the
plate?
Look
at
the
car
and
go
oh,
it
doesn't
match
and
find
out
the
plates
stolen.
No
I
reported
the
plate
stolen.
They
still
write
a
ticket.
I
get
the
thing
when
I'm
in
bed
from
an
injury
22:7
for
months.
Nothing
got
done
personally.
S
S
Like
I
said:
I
have
a
litany
of
things
that
went
wrong,
there's
no
sense,
bringing
you
the
specifics.
You've
heard
all
the
specifics.
We
need
to
restructure
this,
so
it
stops
happening.
I
want
to
thank
you
again
and
thank
you
for
the
information
that
you
gave
me.
Sir.
I
was
I
was
remiss
I,
don't
think
I
was
totally
off-base,
but
I
was
I,
was
off
target
a
little
bit
and
I
appreciate
your
efforts,
particularly
miss
blackwell
and
a
few
others
who
are
aware
specifically
of
what
I'm
going
through.
But
what
am
I
supposed
to
do.
S
A
A
All
right,
we
want
to
make
sure
we
get
everybody
who
hasn't
testified
so
identify
yourself
for
the
record,
everybody
whose
name
I
mentioned
we
did
most
of
you
so
I
think
I
called
everybody
did
not.
My
name
is
Robert
strong
and
Deborah
Willis
Adam
Rock,
though
we
just
did
actually
Anna
Smith,
Sarah
Moore,
and
we
already
heard
from
the
others,
Robert
William,
Dancy,
Kimberly,
Chapman,
John,
Evans
and,
of
course,
Wayne
Williams,
so
everybody
who
and
anybody
else
who
wants
to
testify
now's
your
time
to
come
forward.
This
is
our
last
opportunity.
A
A
Thank
you
and
please,
if
you
give
her
your
name
in
number
two,
she
will
make
sure
and
you
all
know
us
heading
to
guard
exhibit
Lee.
She
is
not
worried,
she's,
not
afraid
anybody
and
she
will
make
sure
we
get
information.
You
have
John
here,
but
you
have
Rochelle
Bulow,
give
her
your
numbers
and
we're
happy
to
get
back
to
any
of
you
and
she
will
give
us
a
copy
or
the
petition
all
right.
Thank
you.
Sorry
to
hold
you.
Please
begin
your
testimony.
A
O
Name
is
Robert
Walter,
my
test
dancy,
my
issue.
My
issue
with
the
parking
authority
is
I
heard
about
this
building
I'm
taking
cars
I
went
to
the
park
in
32.
Ask
them
to
give
them
my
information
to
how
many
tickets
I
had
they
told
me
I
need
my
license.
My
birth
certificate
and
everything
so
I
went
back
and
gave
them
my
license
and
my
birth
certificate.
They
gave
me
a
three
page
three
pages
of
paper,
only
ten.
O
In
order
to
get
my
car
off
the
boot
and
soleus,
just
like
she
said,
I'm
not
responsible
for
anything,
that's
not
my
name,
but
this
paper
still
each
states
that
none
of
these
names
are
mine,
but
ten
of
them,
and
they
still
trying
to
make
me
pay
so
I
need
to
know
how
can
I
resolve
this,
because
I
have
six
kids
and
I
need
to
work
and
I'm,
always
getting
cool
motorcycle,
not
working
anymore.
So
I
could
drive
my
vehicle,
therefore,
back
and
forth
to
work.
B
A
A
H
I'm
here,
because
of
concerns
with
the
philosophy
parking
authority
I
have
paper
here,
stating
that
there
was
forty,
seven
thousand
forty
seven
hundred
dollars
worth
of
tickets.
That's
with
forts
acts
where
to
tags
were
stolen.
The
cars
two
of
the
cars
were
taken
by
the
fellow
free
parking
authority
during
the
first
amount
of
two
thousand
dollars
worth
four
tickets.
I
applied
for
a
job
with
the
school
crossing
guard,
I
got
the
job.
H
I
came
in
to
try
and
get
help
because
they
said
I
could
not
name
work
because
I
owed
tickets
I
tried
to
do
all
that.
I
could
I
didn't
have
the
money
at
the
time
to
get
this
job
to
get
these
tickets
taken
off
so
I
can
make
a
payment
plan
in
order
to
get
it
taken
out
and
I
didn't
no
longer
have
the
car.
They
told
the
car,
since
that
I
was
not
able
to
work.
I
got
a
job
with
the
school
district.
H
Now
near
sitting
up
here
saying
about
monies
with
the
school
district
school
just
I
was
a
bus
manager
had
a
job
as
a
bus
monitor
the
bus
was
in
an
accident.
I
was
hurt.
I
could
not
work.
They
fired
me
from
my
job.
These
buses
are
not
fit
for
these
children
to
be
on.
If
I
had
children,
I
was
riding
a
bus
to
schools.
District
buses
I
would
not
allow
them
to
ride
them.
They
are
unsafe.
I
have
evidence
of
that.
H
So
where's
the
money
going
for
these
children,
because
the
children
are
not
getting
back
the
forth
to
school
safe
when
these
buses,
my
car,
was
just
recently
boot
and
told.
Within
the
last
week
I
came
I
called
actually
at
that
particular
time.
They
said
I
needed
ninety
one
dollars,
which
was
350
plus
with
I,
did
over
phone.
There
was
an
app
they
told
me
to
go
to
for
paid
six.
It's
called
I
paid
the
ninety
one
dollars.
I
went
to
my
sister
had
her
paid
the
ninety
one
dollars
over
the
phone
for
these
tickets.
H
They
said
my
car
would
be
released
to
me
so
that
I
can
make
arrangements
for
these
tickets.
I
sat
in
the
car
156
of
Market
Street
area
waiting
for
them
to
come
and
release
my
car
for
four
hours.
They
said
maybe
take
six
hours.
Call
back.
I
stayed
in
the
car
until
11
o'clock,
because
I
really
wanted
to
just
not
have
them
come
and
still
boot
the
car
because
they
say
they
didn't
have
no
seat
of
the
pay
chicks.
H
Now
this
for
my
sister
credit
card
well
loan
with
the
hole
I
get
down
here,
they
have
no
recognition,
no
receipt
of
the
payment.
Being
me,
I
had
to
call
the
corporate
headquarters
in
order
for
them
to
say
after
three
days
that
they
did
have
the
payment.
I
came
down
to
try
to
get
an
agreement.
They
said
I
needed
two
thousand
dollars.
I
didn't
have
two
thousand
dollars.
I
left
I
called
to
see
if
I
can
get
an
attorney,
no
attorneys
that
I
spoke
with
said
that
they
could
help
me.
Basically,
it
was
no.
H
We
can't
do
anything
with
the
Philadelphia
Parking
Authority.
It's
not
going
to
be
worth
it.
The
young
man
I
spoke
with
at
the
parking
authority
said
it
would
be
a
waste
of
your
time
and
money
to
try
and
get
a
lawyer.
You
might
as
well
take
that
money
and
pay
for
the
tickets
for
cars
that
you
have
taken
from
me
for
money.
You've
taken
from
me
and
I:
don't
have
a
car,
don't
have
a
job,
and
my
car
is
blue.
H
Tint,
oh
now
mind
you,
I
have
half
of
a
certain
percentage
of
the
monies
most
8x4
seventy-five
percent.
It
wasn't
fifty
percent
that
they
wanted
up
to
four
thousand
dollars.
I
didn't
have
for
the
next
day.
They
told
me
to
come
in
if
I
go
in
the
next
day.
I
could
speak
with
another
person
to
for
them
to
make
a
judgment
on
how
much
I
would
need.
H
But
why
can't
you
tell
me,
while
I'm
here
right
now
today
with
the
same
amount,
that's
going
to
be
presented
to
you
the
next
day
to
the
next
person
for
them
to
feel
like
they're,
going
to
tell
me
that
I
need
of
the
whole
hundred
percent
I.
Don't
have
it
I
need
my
car
at
stake
here.
Two
old,
ladies
on
my
block,
I,
can't
go
to
the
stores
for
them.
I
can't
get
them
to
the
hospitals.
I
can't
do
anything
right
now
and
you
lied
to
me.
H
It
told
me
if
I
paid
their
hundred
dollars
right
then,
and
I
waited
for
this
monies
and
for
them
people
to
come,
and
they
told
me
they
could
not
come
to
that
block
unless
there
was
five
or
more
cars
that
was
booted.
There
was
not
coming
within
that
time
and
there
was
thirty
three
more
hours
that
my
car
was
going
to
sit
there
with
that
boot
on
it.
That
I
could
not
do
anything
about
and
you
can't
find,
even
though
hundred
dollars
I
paid
to
get
payment
arrangements
for
him.
H
Eight
hundred
dollars
word
for
tickets,
which
will
happen
within
two
other
tags,
but
these
tickets
are
from
nineteen
87
to
1996.
They.
They
are
demand
and
I
pay
at
one
time,
after
not
being
able
to
get
a
job,
because
I've
had
tickets
with
the
school
crossing
guards
and
lost
my
job
with
the
school
district,
because
there
was
an
accident
and
I
could
not
go
to
work.
It's
not
fair.
I
went
to
them.
H
D
A
H
H
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
Deborah
Willis
I
am
a
minister
of
Church
of
God
in
Christ,
a
chosen
generation
I'm
here,
because
I
can
hear
the
hurt
and
the
people
that
come
up
here
and
testify.
However,
what
I'm
seeing
is
a
total
neglect
of
the
human
factor
concerning
the
parking
authority.
I
understand
that
fact
that
it
is
a
business
and
I
hear
the
figures
that
are
being
mentioned.
However,
I
do
not
hear
anything
that
is
pertaining
to
the
hardship
of
the
people
here
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia.
H
H
That
is
not
really
considered
when
it
comes
down
to
parking
authority
and
other
municipalities
I
suggest,
because
I'm
not
going
to
sit
here
and
pose
a
problem
without
a
solution.
But
I
do
suggest
that
we
have
a
hardship
entity
added
to
these
kind
of
situations
that
occur
in
the
parking
authority.
They
do
not
have
any
consideration
for
the
lordship
now,
if
you're
making.
Seventy
thousand
to
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year.
H
You
can
pay
a
thirty
dollar
parking
ticket
right
online
that
day,
if
you're,
waiting
for
public
assistance,
if
you're
waiting
for
any
kind
of
Social
Security
if
you're,
unemployed
and
barely
getting
by
that,
is
not
possible.
And
if
you
get
fifteen
days
for
it
to
repeat
itself,
it
becomes
even
more
out
of
reach
for
those
people.
If
you
can
take
a
few
minutes
to
add
a
clause
that
will
include
the
humanity
of
the
policies
just
enough,
so
that
these
people
can
pay
what
they
need
to
pay.
H
It's
not
so
much
that
we
don't
want
them
to
do
what
it
is
they're
supposed
to
do
in
terms
of
parking
and
getting
tickets.
I
understand
that
part
of
it,
but
we
have
to
understand.
We
are
talking
about
the
people
we,
the
people
have
to
be
able
to
be
able
to
live
and
function
in
a
community
that
is
accepting
us
for
who
we
are.
H
We
need
to
have
a
human
component,
add
it
on
to
the
parking
authority
procedures
and
that-
and
that
is
the
most
essential
thing
that
I
want
to
say,
but
concerning
the
budget
and
the
school
district,
it
had
already
been
decided
that
they
did
not
want
to
have
an
int
amnesty
program.
It
was
clearly
stated
underneath
the
voices
that
was
said
up
here
on
the
panel.
The
problem
with
that
is
that
if
our
children,
our
children,
are
being
neglected
it
not
by
cars,
we
did
not
pay
our
parking
ticket.
H
If
our
children
are
not
getting
the
proper
education,
it
is
not
because
we
did
not
pay
our
parking
ticket.
Our
children
are
being
neglected
because
they
are
not
appropriately
designating
the
proper
funds
to
where
it
is
supposed
to
be.
If
they're
having
87
million
dollars
a
year
coming
in
and
the
school
district
is
only
getting
7
million
of
that
87
million.
H
H
Good
afternoon
Council
my
name
is
Angela
M
Smith
I
am
committee
person,
10th
division,
61st,
Ward,
1,
9,
1,
2,
0,
zip
code,
and
my
complaint
is
kind
of
sort
of
the
same.
They
come
through
the
park
and
the
authority
comes
through
and
at
2
o'clock
in
the
morning,
booting
blocks,
of
course,
like
over
the
past
month.
H
H
They
told
my
car
I
took
off
work
cars
out
of
work
because
my
mother's
birthday
came
outside
couldn't
go
to
the
cemetery
because
my
car
was
booted.
My
car
is
my
private
property.
You
know
I
mean
if
you
do
something
wrong
as
far
as
tickets,
they
put
liens
against
your
home
or
something
put
a
lien
against
my
car
it
in,
but
don't
take
my
car.
That's
my
personal
property
I
needed.
H
So
a
lot
of
people
are
looking
for
answers
and
solutions
on
what
we
can
do
to
limit
the
Philadelphia
Parking
Authority,
and
if
the
city
needs
to
take
it
back,
then
we
need
to
try
to
figure
out.
How
can
the
city
take
it
back,
because
the
state
is
out
of
control
evidently
something's
wrong?
We
need
a
medium.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
K
Hi,
my
name
is
Adam
Rock
and
I'm
not
trying
to
talk
about
the
issues.
I'm
sure
you
are
aware
of
every
single
issue,
but
I'm
trying
to
give
some
suggestions
number
one
I,
don't
think
so
or
any
of
the
citizens
of
Philadelphia
think
about
the
PPA,
should
police
our
street,
giving
us
tickets
for
registrations
and
inspections
and
not
related
parking
authority.
This
money
we
would
like
to
see
it
to
God,
would
like
to
see
this
money
going
to
the
Philadelphia
Police
Department.
K
They
deserve
it
because
they
need
maybe
more
training
more
better
equipment,
at
least
somebody
who's,
putting
their
lives
in
lines.
For
us
every
single
day.
That's
number
one
number
two
I
would
like
to
see
this
parking
authority
is
that's
for
sure.
Yeah
is
or
eliminate
the
parking
mirrors
in
some
of
the
businesses,
especially
the
poor
neighborhood.
K
Now
I'm
gonna
ask
I'm
gonna
talk
about
the
amnesty.
If
it
is
a
real
amnesty
they're
talking
about,
they
should
waive
every
single
ticket
for
the
past
year
for
every
single
Philadelphia
and
for
one
reason
one
reason
only
because
they
don't
owe
us
anything
they
destroy
us.
They
terrorize
us.
They
robbed
us
the
Smeal
for
them
if
they
give
up
whatever
people
owe
for
the
tickets.
K
Before
that,
that's
called
amnesty
and
for
me,
as
a
business
person,
this
amnesty
they
come
up
with
it's
another
way
to
get
their
money
fast
and
in
the
short
time,
because
they
couldn't
wait
anymore
because
they
couldn't
get
because
if
they
could
get
this
money
before
they
will
not
give
us
in
any
amnesty
PPI,
they
don't
believe
in
amnesty
and
and
they
don't
believe
in
the
humanity
they
don't
have
heart.
They
don't
know
anything
about
amnesty.
This
means
they
should
not
be
asking
anyone
to
pay
for
24
or
40
months.
K
Dinara
credit
cards
didn't
give
us
any
money,
even
the
credit
cards
they
will.
They
have
a
statute
of
limitation,
maybe
7
years
they
don't
call
you.
They
don't
come
up
to
you
anymore.
They
didn't
kick
us
off
the
street.
They
did
not
allowed
us
to
go
to
our
Center
City
and
enjoy
they
keep
the
college
students
from
enjoying
the
city
because
they
can't
afford
the
ticket
and
they
kick
the
visitors,
the
one
the
taxpayers
spent
too
much
money
to
bring
here
by
promoting
Philadelphia.
K
O
My
name
is
Tyrone
barber
I'm
really
not
going
to
drag
this
out.
Cuz
I
know
it's
been
late.
I
just
have
a
few
questions.
The
main
question
is:
if,
after
a
few
years
pocket
Authority
sells
your
tickets
to
a
collection
agency,
how
do
they
then
go
back
behind
you
and
boot
you
for
the
same
tickets,
if
they
no
longer
own
them,
hire
a
Buchi.
O
Cuz
I
have
my
own
thing:
I
was
I'm,
not
booted
I'm,
here
out
of
support,
because
I'm
gonna
boot
list
parking
authority
told
me
they
wouldn't
talk
to
me.
Basically
because
I'm
they
don't
have
my
vehicle,
so
they
don't
want
to
talk
to
people
unless
they
have
your
vehicle
and
they
can
extort
you
out
of
your
money.
I
tried
to
make
arrangements
with
them
before
they
got
my
vehicle
and
they
basically
told
me
we
can't
talk
to
you.
B
H
Name
is
Lenore
Sears
as
a
disabled
person.
One
of
the
problems
that
I
have
with
the
kiosks
are
located
very
far
away
from
the
disabled
parking
spaces.
So
sometimes
I
have
gotten
tickets
because
I
couldn't
get
to
the
kiosk
on
time
and
I
did
get
a
boot
one
time
and
I
said
well.
I'll
go
ahead
and
pay
the
fines
and
I
was
prepared
to
pay,
maybe
the
$200
for
the
legitimate
tickets.
H
But
when
I
got
there,
they
went
back
to
1991
on
every
single
vehicle,
I
had
owned
and
back
in
1991
as
I'm
sure
you
probably
remember
there.
In
the
crack
epidemic
and
I
was
married
to
my
husband
was
a
crack
addicted
person
and
he
ran
up
every
vehicle
that
we
had
at
that
time
got
tickets
and
by
the
time
they
added
up
all
the
tickets
that
he
had.
They
were
bent
up
to
like
$8,000.
H
In
order
for
me
to
get
my
vehicle
out
of
impound
I
had
to
pay
close
to
$8,000
and
most
of
those
tickets
were
in
collections.
So
I
had
to
scrape
up
all
this
money
and
mind
you
I'm
disabled
I,
had
to
borrow
money
from
my
family
members
to
get
my
van
that's
handicap
accessible
out
of
impound
and
I
got
my
vehicle
out
and
paid
the
collection
off,
and
then,
when
I
got
back
to
the
parking
authority,
they
said
oh
well.
H
Now
you
have
to
pay
us
another
three
thousand
dollars
for
these
other
finds
that
are
with
us
and
I
thought
that
was
ungodly
and
unfair.
That
I
thought
once
I
paid
the
eight
thousand
dollars
to
the
collection
agency
agency,
then
they
sprang
up
another
three
thousand
dollars
on
me
that
they
had
I
just
think
to
go
back
to
people
on
and
tickets
for
a
back
in
the
90s.
It's
just
so
unfair.
You
know
people
do
have
legitimate
tickets,
I,
don't
think
people
just
want
to
totally
dismiss
the
tickets.
H
I
did
you
to
me
Oh,
but
to
go
back
on
night
night
tickets
from
the
1990s.
This
is
so
unfair
people
had
circumstances
that
they
were,
you
know,
had
no
control
of,
like
my
husband
was
a
crack
at
addicted
person,
and
you
know
I
can't
be
held
responsible
for
something
that
somebody's
poor
actions
back
then
it
totally
bankrupted
me.
It
totally
bankrupt
me,
I'm,
left
penniless
now,
penniless.
I
H
A
H
My
name
is
Christine
Robison
I
just
wanted
to
know
with
this
amnesty
program.
What
does
it
want?
The
people
that
gets
on
a
payment
plan
is
they're,
gonna
get
off
the
bullets
because
they
have
an
option
so,
okay.
Well,
you
have
to
contact
the
collection
agency.
You
could
give
them
a
payment
plan
for
these
two
old
tickets,
but
that
won't
get
you
off
of
the
boot
list.
H
So
I
need
to
know
that
once
we're
in
this
program
or
once
we
get
on
the
payment
plan,
how
is
it
that
we're
able
to
get
off
the
boot
list
so
we
can
be
able
to
live
comfortably
I
parked
my
car
in
the
back
of
my
house.
I,
don't
even
want
to
park
in
front
of
my
house
because
I
don't
want
to
get
booted
and
I'm.
Gonna
have
no
boots,
I,
don't
even
know
tickets
for
the
car
that
I
have
now
all
my
tickets
are
old,
so
I
wanna
know
like.
A
That's
what
that's,
what
we
are
proposing,
that
amnesty
means
you're
not
only
bootless
and
that
you
have
24
months
to
pay
and
that
you're
off
bootless
net,
but
you
gotta
be
careful.
Hopefully
you
won't
get
more
tickets,
then,
because
it
deals
with
the
tickets
that
you
that
happened
when
you
make
the
agreement.
Okay,
so
we're
trying
to
do
that.
Yes,
sir,
and
this
is
it
how
soon
I'm
sorry
you
got
to
give
your
name
and
number
I
mean
name
and
you
have
to
come
to
the
mic.
She
can't
hear
you-
and
this
is
my.
Q
A
D
A
That
yeah
they're
saying
if
we
get
the
information,
because
my
colleagues
don't
want
to
consider
this
without
the
parking
authority.
Given
us
the
information
we
need,
but
we'll
make
sure
it's
all
in
the
news
we'll
make
sure
Bilal
knows
so.
You'll
know
when
we
have
public
hearings,
so
it
still
has
to
go
before
a
full
public
hearing
in
this
room
before
the
public
you'll
know
so
we're
talking
two
months,
maybe
maybe
all
right.
No,
no,
madam
parking
authority,
because
we
want
to
vote
everybody's
got
meetings.
A
B
So
normally,
when
a
vehicle
is
towed
or
booted,
so
suppose
you
park
on
rush
hour,
you're
going
to
get
a
$76
parking
ticket
plus
of
175
dollar
tophi
every
day
that
the
vehicle
sits
at
the
impound
lot,
it's
30
dollars
and
seventy
two
cents
of
storage.
Each
day
we
usually
sell
the
car
within
30
23
to
30
days
of
being
at
the
impound
a
lot.
We
then
sell
the
cars
that
the
PPA
auctions,
as
someone
has
mentioned
earlier,
sometimes
the
vehicles
only
sold
for
$300.
B
If
it's
in
1992,
maybe
Dotson,
it's
not
going
to
go
for
a
lot,
so
they
sell
for
300
with
intake
that
$300
after
we
pay
our
court
filing
fees
and
advertising
costs.
There
may
be
two
hundred
and
seventy-five
dollars.
We
then
have
to
break
out
the
money
that
we
have.
It
goes
to
the
tow
fee,
then
the
storage
fee,
then
parking
tickets
and
traffic
court
tickets
and
so
on.
B
I
B
I
A
I
A
B
When
a
collection
agency
has
that
file,
the
collection
agency
is
going
to
send
the
notices
to
the
individual.
Meanwhile,
your
file
is
still
if
it's
you
have
more
than
three
parking
or
red-light
tickets
you're
still
going
to
be
in
Abood
eligible
file.
So
if
you
get
booted,
then
you
are
going
to
come
down,
even
though
you
were
noticed
by
say
an
outside
vendor.
You
still
have
I
still
had
the
authority
to
boot.
You
I
saw
the
authority
to
tell
you
if
you're
on
the
rush
hour
blocking.
A
B
I
never
sell
the
old
tickets,
you
have
a
plate,
you
have,
you
have
five
parking
tickets
yeah.
You
have
five
parking
tickets
they're
over
four
years
old.
There's
five
parking
tickets
make
you
food
eligible.
A
collection
agency
will
start
work
on
those
files
because
I've
noticed
you
thirty
forty
times
and
you
have
not
responded.
While
that
is
happening,
that
collection
agency
can
be
noticing
you
I,
a
boot
truck
happens
to
be
driving
up.
Market
Street
sees
your
tag
and
can
still
boot
you
it's
dope
boot
eligible.
B
A
I
I'm
sure
if
I
could
just
add,
but
damn
miss
O'connor.
If
I'm
saying
that's
right,
you,
the
parking
authority
still
has
enforcement
power.
So
if
a
car
is
there
it's
still
bootable
by
by
by
a
parking
authority,
even
if
the
collection
agency
is
trying
to
collect
the
money.
Is
that
correct,
I
say
right?
Okay,
all
right.
O
B
Understand
what
he
said
we
say
when
you're
down
at
the
Bureau
of
administrative
adjudication.
If
you
have
out
of
the
five
tickets,
three
of
those
tickets
assigned
to
a
company
say
light
Smith
and
Smith
there.
We
were
not
when
I
say:
I
wasn't
going
to
say
vendors
name,
so
I'm
just
using
examples.
Okay,
so
they
would
say
you
have
to
kind
contact.
My
barber
I
will
clarify
that
and
I
will
make
sure
that
is
not
happening.
That
is
what
I'm
going
to
do
today,
because
they
should
be
able
once
served
day
on
at
baa.
J
I
I
A
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I'd,
like
to
make
a
statement
before
I
read
the
motion
on
the
amendment.
You
know
there
will
we
are
going
to
vote
out.
You
know.
Hopefully
you
know
with
a
unanimous
decision
to
vote
this
amendment
this
bill
out
as
the
amended
version,
and
there
will
be
more
amendments
on
the
floor
of
this
body
pending
the
information
that
we
requested
from
the
parking
authority
and
administration.
D
A
D
A
A
D
A
Is
removed
then
properly
seconded
the
bill.
Number
1,
6
0
1
1
1,
as
amended,
be
reported
from
this
committee
with
a
favorable
recommendation
and
further
move
that
the
rules
of
council
be
suspended
so
as
to
permit
first
reading
of
this
bill
at
our
next
session
of
council.
All
those
in
favor
of
this
motion
will
signify
by
saying
aye
opposed
the
eyes.
A
Have
it
and
the
motion
carries
a
building
of
the
1
6
0
1
1
1,
as
amended,
will
be
reported
from
this
committee
with
the
favorable
recommendation
and
a
request
that
the
rules
of
council
be
suspended
so
as
to
permit
first
reading
and
our
next
session
of
council.
Let
me
thank
everybody.
Let
me
thank
my
committee
part
issue,
but
an
important
one.
Thank
you
all
everybody
who
testified
and
everyone
who's
come.
Thank
you
all,
and
this
hearing
is
adjourned
thanks.