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From YouTube: Committee on Licenses and Inspections 2-16-2021
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The Committee on Licenses and Inspections of the Council of the City of Philadelphia will hold a Public Hearing on Tuesday, February 16, 2021, at 10:00 AM, in a remote manner using Microsoft® Teams to hear testimony on the following item:
200618 An Ordinance amending Chapter 9 4200 of The Philadelphia Code, entitled “Donation Bins,” to modify the locations at which donation bins shall be permitted; all under certain terms and conditions.
A
Good
morning,
philadelphia
good
morning,
colleagues
and
good
morning
to
all
who
have
joined
us
here
for
the
committee
of
license
inspections
today
february
16th.
I
understand
that
state
law
currently
requires
that
the
following
announcements
be
made
at
the
beginning
of
every
remote
public
hearing
as
follows.
A
I
note
that
the
hour
has
come.
Mr
brazell,
would
you
please
call
the
roll
and
take
attendance
of
members
that
are
that
are
in
attendance?
Would
you
please
indicate
that
you
are
present
when
your
name
is
called
also,
please
say
a
few
brief
words
when
responding
to
the
image
that
will
be
displayed
on
your
screen
when
you
speak,
mr
brazil,.
A
Thank
you,
sir.
Before
we
begin
to
hear
testimony
from
the
witness
that
we
have
for
today.
Everyone
who
has
been
invited
to
the
meeting
to
testify
should
be
aware
that
this
is
a
public
hearing
and
this
hearing
is
being
recorded
because
the
hearing
is
public
participants
and
viewers
have
no
reasonable
expectation
of
privacy
continuing
to
be
in
this
meeting,
you
are
consenting
to
being
recorded
additionally
prior
to
re
recognizing
members
for
the
questions
or
committees
they
have
for
any
of
the
witnesses.
I
will
note
for
the
record
at
this
time
will
be
used.
A
We
will
use
the
chat
feature
available
in
microsoft
teams
to
allow
members
to
signify
that
they
wish
to
be
recognized
in
order
to
comply
with
the
sunshine
act.
The
chat
feature
must
only
be
used
for
this
purpose
and
before
we
call
the
witness
the
first
witness
for
bill
number
two:
zero
zero
six
one
eight
would
any
of
my
colleagues
like
to
make
an
opening
comment
or
remark
regarding
this.
B
I
If
enacted,
the
bill
will
prohibit
donation
bins
from
being
placed
on
any
property.
The
department
of
licenses
and
inspections
is
prepared
to
make
adjustments
to
our
existing
operating
procedure.
To
accommodate
the
proposed
change,
the
department
will,
on
a
complaint
basis,
inspect
the
property
and
if
a
donation
bin
is
found,
we'll
cite
the
property
owner
and
the
bin
owner,
if
known.
Accordingly,
the
department
of
licenses
and
inspections
has
no
objection
to
this
bill
and
is
prepared
to
enforce
its
provisions.
Should
it
become
law.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
provide
the
department's
testimony.
A
Let
me
start
off
by
saying
this
has
been
a
an
ongoing
problem
and
an
issue
for
I
guess
almost
the
past
six
years,
and
I
understand
the
concern
of
an
outright
band
it
may
band.
It
may
go
a
little
too
far,
but
here's
the
problem
right
now.
The
code
has
very
reasonable
code
requirements
that
simply
are
not
being
met.
Bins
have
to
be
placed
on
private
property.
Bins
have
to
be
away
from
property
lines.
Bin
owners
need
to
have
written
consent
from
property
owners
to
place
bins,
bins
have
to
have
a
company
contact.
A
Information
bins
have
to
be
maintained
by
the
companies
that
own
them,
they
can't
be
covered
with
graffiti,
and
they
need
to
be
regularly
serviced
to
avoid
short
term.
None
I
mean
none
of
this
happens.
All
you
need
to
do
is
drive
around
the
city
and
it's
been
almost
six
years
since
we
create
the
regulations
from
the
beginning.
A
The
reason
why
we
have
codes
the
reasons
why
we
have
regulations
the
reasons
why
we
as
a
legislative
and
policy
body,
you
know,
go
back
and
take
a
look
at
some
of
the
issues
and
concerns,
especially
when
it
comes
to
workers,
rights
and
other
adjustments
is
because
it
is
a
problem,
and
this
is
severely
adding
to
the
the
fall
of
the
quality
to
life
that
we
have
in
some
of
our
neighborhoods
right.
So
none
of
these
happen.
It's
not
that
difficult.
A
We
do
it
with
property
managers
where
they
have
to
have
a
managing
agent
and
or
property
maintenance
code.
Here
is
similar.
You
have
to
have
an
authorized
agent.
I
don't
nobody
knows
who
that
is
you
try
making?
You
know
phone
calls
you
can't
get
through
to
anybody
all
right.
It
becomes
a
breeding
ground
for
for
sure
dumping.
Everybody
just
you
know
follows
the
lead
and
it
and
it
just
you-
know
mountains
into
something
that
you
know.
A
We
should
not
be
proud
of
same
thing
when
we
had
these
bandit
signs
on
our
on
our
polls.
All
right.
We
addressed
the
same
exact
issue
with
banded
signs
and
no
way
to
contact
anybody.
So
what
did
we
do?
We
started
holding
the
companies
a
little
more
accountable.
We
started
holding
the
people
who
were
hanging
the
signs
a
little
more
accountable
to
address
these
issues
and
they
and
it
was
a
priority.
So
these
companies
they
don't
create
jobs
in
the
city,
philadelphia.
The
donation
items
are
usually
sold
for
profits
overseas
right.
A
There
is
no
benefit
to
allowing
these
exist
under
the
current
conditions,
the
department
of
license
and
inspections
and
streets.
Don't
have
a
clear
enforcement
strategy
right.
They
don't
have
the
time
to
chase
down
owners
of
these
bins
and
get
them
removed.
Why
should
it
be
the
responsibility
of
the
citizens
and
and
in
our
neighborhoods
in
our
community
groups?
That's
that's
a
good
question.
A
Why
I
received
hundreds
of
calls
these
companies
had
six
years
to
get
their
act
together
and
they
hadn't
these
bins
should
be
prohibited
unless
we
can
figure
out
a
way
to
hold
them
accountable
and
figure
a
way
to
have
a
serious
and
priority
enforcement
which
we
have
not
right.
If
we
wait
another,
if
we
wait
longer
right,
then
it'll
be
a
decade
we
deserve
better.
A
So
that
will
be
my
opening
saving
with
these
bills
and-
and
I
am
in
response
to
my
community
and
other
calls-
I
get
you
know
throughout
the
city
of
philadelphia
regarding
these,
these
bins
right.
I
think
it's
a
disgrace
and
we
deserve
better.
So
that
being
said,
I'm
going
to
open
up
to
any
committee
members
that
wishes
to
make
a
a
statement
and
or
have
any
you
know,
suggestions
or
concerns.
H
G
Because
that
is
the
area
that
is
under
served
and
is
going
to
be
a
problem.
I
do
not
like
that
sign
being
hung
on
many
of
our
neighborhoods
when
these
unkept
bins
are
allowed
to
send
that
signal
to
people
who
might
invest
they
buy
a
home
may
want
to
eat
at
a
restaurant
in
these
respective
neighborhoods.
G
A
Well,
thank
you,
council,
councilmember
jones,
and
you
know
it
just
you
know
as
you're
speaking
I
mean
that
is,
and
that's
pretty
powerful
when
people
are
looking
for
homes
and
looking
for
you
know
a
place
that
you
know
they
they
want
to
later
have
for
a
while,
and
that
is
one
of
the
telling
signs
you
know,
donation
bids.
I
mean
it
to
me:
it's
willful
neglection
all
right
and
disregard
to
anybody
who
lives
in
that
neighborhood
and
and
we
we
deserve
better.
I
have
a
question
for
miss
adamo.
I
So
the
total
number
of
violations-
I
don't
have
handy,
but
I
have
already
asked
our
our
team
to
pull
a
report
on
that.
So
I
should
have
that
very
shortly.
It
there
are
about
five
different
violations
that
we
could
have
issued
under
the
current
code.
So
from
the
time
that
the
bill
in
2015
was
enacted
to
now
I
can
pull
a
report
on
that
information
and
get
that
to
you
very
quickly.
I
A
Okay,
so
in
the
current
regulations,
which
is
which
is
law
owner
has
to
have
a
authorized
agent
all
right,
so
we
can
contact,
and
I
wasn't
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
if
it's
similar
to
when
you
know
somebody
has
an
investment
property
and
you
have
these
neglectful
and
unscrupulous
slumlords
in
in
our
city.
Philadelphia,
who
totally
disregards,
are
our
citizens
and
and
their
communities
which
destroys
our
property
value,
which
we
have
proven.
A
I
I
There
are
also
other
pieces
of
legislation
that
have
either
recently
been
introduced
or
are
in
the
works.
That
would
require
us
to
collect
additional
contact
information
when
owners
are
our
llc's
or
you
know,
any
type
of
ownership
other
than
a
natural
person's,
so
that
should
also
help
us
get
to
the
get
to
the
bottom
of
some
of
the
the
owners
that
are
kind
of
unreachable
to
us.
The
other
question
that
you
had
was,
if
we
know
you
know
who
these
bin
operators
are
and
how
many
of
them
there
are.
I
Unfortunately,
we
don't
know
because
the
bins
that
are
legally
placed
right
now
they
don't
require
permits,
they
don't
require
licenses.
So
there's
really
no
mechanism
for
these
bin
operators
to
have
been
in
our
system
prior
to
this
time.
So
if
a
bin
is
legally
placed,
even
if
it's
maintained
perfectly
and
and
abiding
by
all
the
rules-
l,
I
simply
doesn't
know
who
they
are.
We
don't
have
that
information
in
our
database.
A
E
Yeah,
thank
you,
mr.
I
just
had
a
point
of
information
from
sarah
if
she
can
clarify
so
why
aren't
these
companies
regulated
to
you
know
place
these
bins
on
on
city,
streets
and
properties,
and
the
reason
why
I
say
streets
because
I
know
there's
one
in
graves
ferry:
that's
not
on
private
property.
It's
like
you,
know
on
the
side
of
the
street
and
that's
the
one
I
get
complaints
about
in
south
philadelphia.
So
is
there
a
reason
why
there
isn't
a
permitting
process,
so
we
can
actually
really
regulate
or
provide
oversight.
I
I'm
not
sure
if,
if
there's
a
reason
why
there
isn't
a
permit
process,
but
just
based
on
the
way
the
the
code
currently
reads,
you
don't
need
a
permit.
You
don't
need
a
license.
You
just
need
to
to
follow
this
set
of
rules
right
now.
One
of
the
rules-
that's
very
clear,
is
that
they
are
not
permitted
on
the
street,
so
our
current
operating
procedure
is
that
if
we
get
a
complaint
about
a
bin,
that's
on
the
street,
we
would
go
out
and
inspect.
It
would
be
our
vending
unit.
I
I
E
E
I
have
had
complaints
in
south
philly
as
recently
I
think,
as
last
month.
I
have
seen
them
and
they
are
eyesore.
So
I
do
admit
to
that.
I
guess
probably
my
my
slight
concern
about
the
total
ban
is
simply
for
the
fact
that
you
know
if
these
are
charitable
services
that
help
those
in
need
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
not
sending
a
total
message
of
not
being
empathetic
or
sympathetic
of
those
most
in
need.
E
E
If
we
go
down
this
path,
I
would
I
would
just
ask
that
you
and
your
team
figure
out
how
we
beef
up
our
efforts,
rabbits
with
salvation
army
or
the
incredible
organizations
that
do
take
donations,
that
that
are
provided
to
individuals
who
are
in
need,
and
so
I
have.
I
will
be
voting
yes
to
get
it
out
of
committee.
A
Thank
you,
council,
remember
johnson,
and
I
totally
agree
with
you.
I
mean
I
would
love
for
somebody
to
say
hey.
We
are
here
right
and
we
are
accepting.
You
know,
clothing.
You
know
for
the
betterment
of
our
local
people,
like
you
know,
credible
organizations
like
the
salvation
army
and
goodwill,
they
have
physical
shops
and
they
have
bins.
I
believe
you
know
at
their
locations
and
as
as
drop-offs,
which
is
you
know
to
your
point
serving
the
need
of
of
of
folks
in
in
our
communities.
A
When
we
had
the
hearing
you
know
six
years
ago
I
mean
they
were
they
were
talking
about.
You
know
whenever
they
cleaned
it
up,
whoever
cleaned
it
up.
You
know
these
bins.
You
know
just
like
balance
put
them
in
in
a
bell
and
then
sending
them
out.
They
didn't
even
wash
them.
You
know
I'd
love
to
keep
it
local
and
have
these
conversations
even
with
our
dumpsters,
and
maybe
this
is
directed
more
to
misadamo.
You
know
even
our
dumpsters
have
medallions,
which
are
you
know,
registered
and
recorded.
A
So
you
know
maybe
some
of
these
conversations
councilman.
You
know
we
can
have
once
it
gets
out
of
committee,
you
know,
but
you
know
we
need
to
send
a
message
that
we're
serious
and
you
know,
then
you
know
the
these
outfits
coming
in
here
and
and
and
exploiting
our
neighborhoods
and
you
know,
creating
short
dumping
grounds
is
is
unacceptable.
I
mean
unacceptable
they're
only
supposed
to
have
two.
They
got
like
four
all
right.
It's
overflowed.
A
We
can't
get
a
contact
with
anybody,
and
next
thing
you
know
tvs,
mattresses
and
and
anything
else
and
construction
debris
is
being
dumped
right
and
on
you
know
our
publix
right
away
and
and
private
property
we're
not
even
sure
what
the
arrangement
is,
because
we
don't
check.
So
that's
all
I
have
on
this
off.
I
think
you
get
my
point
on
where
it
is
and
again
I'm
responding
to
the
people.
I
represent,
I'm
responding
to
the
citizens
of
the
city
of
philadelphia,
any
other
member
have
any
other
chair
recognizes
councilmember.
or
oh.
F
A
H
H
Secondly,
my
concern
was
around
the
goodwill
stores
and
also
the
salvation
army.
I
remember
years
ago
this
is
at
least
35
years
ago.
My
mom
would
go
shopping
on
kensington
or
frankfort
avenue,
and
there
was
a
large
thrift
store
there
at
an
old
supermarket
and
they
would
keep
some
of
their
bins
outside.
So
I
just
wanted
to
ensure
that
this
would
not
impact.
You
know
those
type
of
stores,
and
those
are
my
only
questions.
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
chair.
A
Thank
you,
council
member,
and
I
appreciate
you-
you
know
talking
about
that
publicly,
because
that
is,
you
know
some
of
some
of
the
conversation
that
we've
had
leading
up
today's
hearing
and
you
know
no
better
way
to
talk
about
your
own
experience
so
so.
Thank
you.
So
much
chair
recognizes
a
council
member.
F
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
chairman.
I
I
think
this
committee
is
expressing
pretty
much
its
knowledge
of
this
issue
and
I
will
be
voting
in
favor
of
this
legislation,
but
I
too
am
hoping
that
there
will
be
some
amendments
and
other
opportunities
because
of
my
concern
as
well
that
that
a
ban
throughout
the
city
may
be
too
large
of
of
of
a
a
response
when,
in
fact
the
issue
is
one
of
enforcement.
F
However,
the
enforcement
is
difficult
because,
in
speaking
to
some
of
the
locations
where
these
bins
have
ended
up
the,
for
example,
some
of
the
pharma
pharmacies
and
supermarkets
they've
expressed
that
it's
not
there
been
and
they
didn't
place
it
there.
Somebody
placed
it
there,
there's
something
you
know
like
there's
some.
Sometimes
they
don't
even
have
a
contact
information
on
the
bins
there
might
be.
F
You
know,
donation
and
in
fact,
as
chairman,
you
said,
they're,
not
charitable
organizations,
they
are
for-profit
organizations,
and-
and
so
I
think
that
is
a
challenge
for
elle-
and
I
you
know
if
we
can,
somebody
is
picking
this
stuff
up.
I
mean
they
don't
come
often,
but
there's
some
reason
why
they
took
the
time
and
trouble
to
places
there
and
and
again
it
is
you
know
if
we
cannot
come
up
with
something.
F
Unfortunately,
we
may
have
to
narrow
and
make
it
very
specific
about
this
exact
type
of
of
bin,
but
I
echo
the
sentiments
of
everybody
else.
You
know
the
community
does
not
want
it.
It's
out
of
control
the
the
people
who
own
the
property
cannot
control
it.
You
know,
where
does
a
city
who
do
they
find
who
they
enforce
it
with
and
if
it
becomes
a
city
expense
to
start
picking
this
stuff
up
and
and
disposing
of
it?
That's
yet
another
issue
of
of
bad
behavior
that
cost
the
taxpayers
money
they
shouldn't
spend.
A
E
I
want
to
also
thank
mr
chairman.
I
want
to
also
thank
you
for
educating
me
on
this
process
because
I
had
no
idea
was
for
profit,
so
I
how's
that
a
charity
if
it's
for
profit,
so
that
part
I
didn't
know
coming
into
this-
I'm
separate
from
addressing
it
from
a
quality
life
standpoint,
because
we
know
organizations
such
as
goodwill
organizations
such
as
the
salvation
army,
there's,
there's
also
another
organization,
there's
a
veterans
organization
that
I
actually
donate
my
clothes
to
right.
E
F
F
C
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thanks
for
your
work
on
this
issue
and
I
think
we're
all
getting
educated.
I
mean
I
usually
do
go
myself
to
salvation
army
or
goodwill.
Maybe
if
the
city
could
actually
let
people
know
those
non-profits
where
they
can
donate
their
things
to,
I
think
people
are
actually
believe
when
they
donate
their
things.
It's
to
a
non-profit.
C
I
don't
think
anyone
really
understood
that
these
places
were
for-profit,
so
whatever
we
could
do
to
support
the
salvation
army
football
other
non-profits,
we
should
do
even
to
the
point
of
I'd,
love
to
see
us
put
up
a
website
and
have
them
have
their
locations
on
the
website.
So,
like
you,
people
will
know
all
over
the
city
where
you
go
for
the
salvation
army
or
where
you
go
for
goodwill,
and
this
way
everyone
has
knowledge
of
where
to
donate
things.
D
I
I
That's
yes,
that's
already
built
into
the
bill.
We
can
do
that
now
and
that
part
of
the
code
section
will
remain.
You
know,
even
if
this
bill
is
passed
so
the
way
the
enforcement
works
is
that
it
is
primarily
complaint
basis.
So
if
we
get
a
complaint
l
I
goes
out
if
we
determine
that
the
bin
is
not
there
illegally,
we
place
a
sticker
on
it.
The
owner
is
really
responsible
for
the
maintenance
of
their
own
lot,
so
the
owner
is
responsible
for
removing
the
bin.
I
If
they
do
not,
then
a
violation
is
issued
to
the
owner
of
the
property
and
the
owner
of
the
bin.
If
we
know
it
so
if,
if
the
bin
information
is
printed
on
the
side
of
the
bin,
you
know
we
know
who
the
operator
of
that
bin
is,
then
we
would
issue
a
violation
of
them
as
well.
If
it's
not
removed
l,
I
does
have
the
authority
to
remove
it
right
now
with
the
the
legislation.
I
The
way
it
is
yeah
we're,
there's
not
a
lot
of
bins
that
need
to
be
removed
because
a
lot
of
times
it's
it's
a
property
maintenance
issue.
It's
something
that
we
issue
a
violation.
We
tell
them
to
clean
it
up,
they
clean
it
up,
and
you
know
it's
a
cycle,
but
if
it
were
to
be
a
complete
ban
there
would
be
a
lot
of
bins
that
would
need
to
be
removed.
I
A
And
you
know
councilman
squiro,
I
think
you
know,
as
as
I
had
had
mentioned
in
in
passing
earlier.
Dumpsters
had
medallions,
that's
a
registry
and
that's
revenue.
You
know
for
administrating,
you
know
the
the
cost
of
enforcement.
If
a
department
chooses
to
enforce
it
and
I'm
not
saying
that's,
you
know
you
know
directed
solely
at
illinois,
but
once
you
get
a
a
you
know
a
violation,
whether
it's
a
cvn
or
an
nov,
and
you
have
five
days
then
it
you
know,
maybe
l
and
I
can
and
and
could
remove
it.
A
But
typically
it
would.
You
know,
get
kicked
over
to
the
streets
department
but
streets,
it's
not
a
priority
for
the
streets
department
and
I
don't
think
they
have
the
capacity
at
this
time
to
do
that,
and
you
know
if,
if
you
look
around
hence
you
know
the
purpose
of
this
bill
and
or
the
reason
for
this
discussion
is
because
nothing
is
happening
anywhere.
A
H
I
A
Thank
you,
council
member.
Are
there
any
other
questions
or
comments
for
members
of
the
committee,
I'm
looking
at
the
chat
if,
if
not
miss
adamo?
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
testimony
and
participate
in
today's
hearing.
I
look
forward
to
some
of
the
data
that
you
requested.
So
we
can,
you
know,
take
a
look
at
those
data
sets
and
figure
out
how
we
proceed
from
here.
So
thank
you.
So
much.
A
All
right,
so
this
will
conclude
the
hearing
and
we'll
go
into
our
public
meeting
there
being
no
further
questions
from
members
of
the
committee
and
no
other
witnesses
to
testify.
I
will
ask
if
there
is
anyone
present
in
this
hearing,
whose
name
that
we
have
found
the
call
and
that
wishes
to
offer
testimony
on
the
bill
here
today
be
considered
hearing
none.
A
I
want
to
thank
miss
adamo
for
participating
as
our
witness
today's
hearing,
we
value
your
opinions
and
we
invite
all
the
panelists
and
witnesses
to
please
disconnect
for
the
meeting
before
we
go
into
our
public
meeting.
We
will
now
pause
for
a
brief
moment
for
the
proceedings
to
briefly
wait
for
the
participant
to
exit,
which
I
believe
has
happened.
A
C
A
It
has
been
moved
properly.
Second,
that
bill
number
200
618
be
reported
from
this
committee,
with
a
favorable
recommendation
and
further
move
that
the
rules
of
council
be
suspended
to
permit
the
first
reading
of
this
bill
at
our
next
session
of
council.
All
those
in
favor
of
the
motion
signify
by
saying
aye.
A
This
concludes
the
oh,
so
this
will
be
rated
our
next
session
of
council,
as
I
had
stated,
and
this
will
conclude
the
business
before
the
committee
of
public
property
public
works.
I
want
to
thank
you
again
all
for
your
attendance
and
thank
you
for
having
a
conversation
and
looking
into
this
behalf
of
all
the
citizens
of
the
city
of
philadelphia.
Thank
you.
So
much
colleagues
have
a
great
day
being.