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Committee on Public Safety July 18,2023
A
A
C
A
C
I
hope
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
walk
out
of
here
understanding
better
what
we
are
going
to
do
from
now,
hopefully,
through
the
end
of
the
year,
what
we're
going
to
do
different
I
hope
that
everyone
understands,
because
I
I
believe
my
office
has
reached
out
to
each
one
of
you
who
are
testifying
today
and
that
you
understand
that
we're
very
clear
about
what
each
and
every
one
of
you
do
on
a
daily
basis.
We
know
what
you're
doing.
Today's
purpose
is
not
to
not
for
you
to
repeat
that
to
us.
C
We
we
know
that
we
want
to
know
what
you're
planning
to
do
moving
forward.
That
is
different
from
what
you're
currently
doing.
That
will
help
us
change
and
improve
the
quantity
of
life
in
the
Kensington.
Harrogate
Community
and
I'm
and
I
I
mean
that,
with
a
lot
of
respect
for
the
work
that
you
all
do,
I'm
not
saying
that
what
you're
doing
is
not
good
enough.
C
D
I
represent
the
whole
city
and
I,
say:
there's
little
kensingtons
all
over
the
city,
just
not
as
crazy
as
it
is
here,
but
there's
little
spots
in
South,
Philadelphia,
West,
Philadelphia,
northeast
Roxborough,
where
they
go
and
congregate
and
get
high,
and
you
know
as
not
only
to
a
councilman
but
as
a
resident
enough's
enough.
My
residents,
my
neighbors,
are
good
people,
they're
just
scared,
and
they
should
be
able
to
come
out
of
their
house.
The
kids
should
be
able
to
play.
D
D
A
We
were
having
a
robust
conversation
with
some
folk
and
the
issue
was
east
of
Market
and
what
it
would
take
in
order
to
rejuvenate
whether
you're
for
moving
a
stadium
there,
whether
you're,
not
but
they
recognize
that
there's
some
fundamental
problems
dealing
with
safety.
Some
people
were
concerned
about
aggressive
panhandling.
Some
were
concerned
about
prostitution.
Others
were
concerned
about
juvenile
unrest
at
night
and
lawlessness
that
was
in
there
and
I
said
to
them.
A
How
can
we
be
so
concerned
about
this
strip
of
land
and
not
be
as
concerned
about
Kensington
about
what
goes
on
here
every
day?
And
so
when
we
start
to
look
at
budgets
when
we
start
to
look
at
limited
resources
and
where
we
apply
those
resources,
we
will
not
leave
this
neighborhood
behind.
So
today
we
don't
want
to
be
expert
articulators
of
the
problem,
even
though
I
watch
somebody
shoot
up
on
my
way
here.
Watch
them
shoot
up.
A
But
until
it
bothers
you
as
much
as
it
bothers
the
people
who
have
to
deal
with
this
every
day,
you
don't
feel
it
only
takes
a
couple
of
times
to
come
down
here
to
see
that
that
we,
as
a
city
have
to
do
something
about
it.
So
I
don't
want
to
believe
it
a
point.
What
I
want
to
do
is
hear
some
articulation
of
what
your
area
of
expertise
is.
What
your
wheelhouse
of
information
is,
but
go
right
straight
at
solutions
that
you
can
recommend
to
us
to
change
the
condition
of
Kensington
Mister
Cohen.
E
Hi
good
evening,
everyone
good
evening,
chairperson
Jones
and
members
of
City
council's
Committee
on
Public
Safety
I,
am
Noel
poison.
Director
of
the
opioid
Response
Unit
for
the
city
of
Philadelphia
I
will
provide
testimony
on
behalf
of
the
administration
joined
by
key
leadership
from
the
administration.
Who
will
address
any
questions
raised
during
public
testimony.
We
submitted
a
longer
version
to
city
council
for
the
record.
We
thank
the
students,
School
staff
and
residents,
who
bravely
shared
their
testimony
with
us.
In
the
previous
hearing.
E
We
hear
and
acknowledge
the
hurt
and
suffering
that
has
been
felt
by
your
community.
A
generation
of
children
and
their
families
have
grown
up
witness
to
activities.
No
child
should
be
exposed
to
while
going
to
school
playing
in
the
park
or
walking
their
neighborhood.
We
share
your
frustration
and
remain
committed
to
improving
the
quality
of
life
in
Kensington
until
your
community
feels
safe
and
set
up
to
thrive.
E
I
want
to
thank
the
Committee
on
Public
Safety
for
convening
this
series
of
hearings
on
public
safety
concerns
in
Kensington
and
Harrogate.
We
appreciate
the
partnership
of
council
members
Lazada
and
squilla
and
their
focus
on
seeking
Solutions
through
these
convenings.
In
the
past
two
years,
we've
met
regularly
with
Community
leaders
and
residents
and
continue
to
be
inspired
by
your
Insight
creativity
and
tenacity
to
restore
safe
and
healthy
environment
for
all
residents
in
your
community.
E
Today
we
continue
this
important
dialogue,
listen
and
respond
to
your
concerns.
The
testimony
we
provide
tonight
is
in
response
to
the
priorities
voiced
by
your
community
and
offers
key
updates
on
the
city's
progress
to
support
local
schools
and
Parks
increase
Public
Safety
and
improve
quality
of
life
in
Kensington.
E
The
managing
director's
office
is
investing
7.5
million
in
funds
from
the
national
opioid
settlement
through
the
Kensington
Master
planning
process
towards
support
to
keep
residents
in
their
homes
and
improvements
for
parks
and
schools
in
the
Kensington
area.
Recognizing
the
toll
the
opioid
epidemic
has
had
on
local
schools.
The
managing
director's
office
is
investing
2
million
for
the
national
opioid
settlement
to
help
support
the
students
and
faculty
in
six
public
schools
in
the
Kensington
area.
E
The
managing
director's
office
is
investing
six
hundred
thousand
for
the
national
opioid
settlement
to
support
six
Kensington
Area
Parks.
Each
Park
will
receive
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
towards
programming,
site
improvements
and
community
building
activities
by
the
fall
of
2023
and
kcdc,
and
impact
have
begun
a
participatory
decision-making
process
with
residents
in
Harrogate,
Park,
hissy
playground,
hope,
Park,
McPherson,
Square,
Park,
Scanlon
recreation
center
and
Trenton
Auburn
playground
and
Park.
E
E
29
guns,
including
two
ghost
guns
police,
made
175
arrests
and
made
27
referrals
to
police,
assisted
diversion
and
issued
46
code
violation,
notices,
police
seized,
1.4
million
in
narcotic
street
value
and
77
000
in
U.S
currency.
As
of
July
11th,
only
three
arrestees
had
charges
dropped
by
the
District
Attorney's
office
in
November
of
2022
police
launched
the
city's
first
Behavioral
Health
Unit
to
provide
a
Citywide
co-responder
model
for
vulnerable
residents
who
encounter
police.
E
The
bhu
includes
the
crisis,
intervention
response
teams
and
police
assisted
diversion
or
pad
Crisis
Intervention
response
teams
or
cert
paid
pair
PPD
pair
Philadelphia
Police
Department
officers
with
civilian
Mental,
Health
Service
Providers,
to
respond
to
Residents,
experiencing
mental
health
or
emotional
distress.
Since
November
of
2022,
certain
teams
have
engaged
412
vulnerable
residents
and
only
two
percent
of
encounters
required
use
of
force
by
an
officer
and
less
than
one
percent
resulted
in
arrest.
E
1388
individuals
were
diverted
through
police,
assisted
diversion
at
the
point
of
arrest
and
two
of
three
pad
participants
accepted
the
offer
to
enroll
in
treatment.
There
was
a
re-arrest
rate
of
8.5
percent
among
pad
participants
in
calendar
year,
22.
a
small
percentage
compared
to
the
Statewide
recidivism
rate
of
65
percent.
E
Most
diversions
take
place
in
Kensington
and
involve
a
rest
for
retail
theft,
prostitution
and
low-level
drug
charges.
The
police
department
and
Parks
and
Recreation
continue
to
enforce
Park
regulations
in
Kensington
Park,
Rangers
Patrol,
McPherson,
Square
and
Harrogate
Park
five
days
a
week
from
9
30
a.m
to
5
PM.
Additional
Ranger
coverage
is
provided
for
McPherson
on
weekends,
Park,
Rangers
and
police,
enforce
no
camping
and
no
drug
use,
while
police
enforce
the
curfew.
E
Parks
and
Recreation
Place
Boulders
around
the
perimeter
of
McPherson
last
summer
to
restrict
vehicle
access,
and
then
the
third
section
of
updates
is
around
improving
quality
of
life.
To
address
quality
of
life
concerns.
The
city
is
taking
proactive
measures
to
address
the
presence
of
mobile
service
providers,
strengthen
enforcement
against
illegal
and
dumping,
and
coordinate
regular
cleaning
and
sanitation
in
Kensington
public
spaces.
E
We
are
aware
that
mobile
service
providers,
some
not
funded
by
the
city
of
Philadelphia,
have
been
operating
in
the
Kensington
area
through
the
Kensington
planning
efforts
led
by
nkcdc
and
Impact
Services,
with
the
support
of
council
members,
ketsy,
Lazada
and
Mark
squilla
mdo
will
help
facilitate
a
process
involving
City
agencies,
Community
residents
and
mobile
service
providers
to
identify
and
agree
upon
appropriate
locations
for
services.
Consolidation
of
schedules
to
minimize
duplication
of
efforts
and
assure
sanitation
is
coordinated.
E
Police
streets
department
and
Law
Department
meet
regularly
to
streamline
illegal
dumping
enforcement
and
maximize
efforts.
As
of
July
14
2023,
the
city
has
brought
14
legal
actions
in
the
Philadelphia
Court
of
Common
Pleas,
for
some
sorry
that
the
city
has
brought
32
civil
legal
actions
in
the
Philadelphia
Court
of
Common
Pleas.
To
date.
This
has
resulted
in
judgments
totaling
over
72
thousand
dollars.
Thirty
two
thousand
a
recoup
cleanup
costs
expended
by
the
city
and
forty
thousand
and
fines.
Six
additional
cases
are
awaiting
trial
and
one
is
pending
a
contempt
petition.
E
Hearing
Parks
and
Recreation
cliff
and
public
health
teams
provide
regular
cleaning
and
sanitation
support
in
Kensington
area
parks
in
FY,
23,
Parks
and
Recreation
funded
two
additional
operations.
Crews
Public
Health
supports
environmental
cleaning
five
days
a
week
in
Kensington
and
coordinates
with
clip
and
Parks
and
Rec
to
address
problem
areas.
As
of
June
30th.
The
teams
have
removed
61
115
syringes
through
needle
pickups
and
block
to
block,
has
removed
1197
bags
of
trash.
E
In
addition,
clip
provides
a
sanitation
support
around
McPherson
Square
library
five
days
a
week
and
has
cleaned
2
343
vacant
lots
and
sanitized
1
671
blocks
in
Kensington
through
June
2023
I.
Do
want
to
add
that
today
we
did
join
a
a
walk
around
with
council
member
Lazada
with
the
police
department,
streets
department
and
myself
and
nkcc
an
impact,
and
there
was
an
agreement
to
start
a
pilot
that
will
we're
trying
to
get
to
24
hours
a
day
pilot
in
a
Target
area,
and
we
can
answer
more
questions
on
that
in
a
second.
E
There
is
more
to
be
done
to
improve
conditions
in
Kensington
and
we
are
committed
to
working
in
partnership
with
community
members
I'm
joined
today
by
leadership
from
within
the
managing
director's
office,
Health
and
Human
Services
Community,
Services,
Police,
Department
license
and
inspections,
streets,
department,
Parks
and
Recreation
Commerce
clip
Department
of
Behavioral
Health
and
intellectual
disability
services,
office
of
homeless
services
and
public
health.
We
are
now
available
to
answer
your
questions.
A
Well,
thank
you
for
that
comprehensive
testimony,
I'd
like
to
also
recognize
that
we
have
officially
established
a
quorum
and
remember
Kenyatta,
Johnson
and
member
gutier.
Thank
you
for
for
being
here.
If
I
were
to
describe
your
role
with
all
of
the
other
component
sub-components
that
are
a
part
of
this
panel
you're
the
Orchestra
conductor,
for
all
of
that.
That
kind
of
gets
that
to
blend
in
to
what
the
treatment
plan
for
this.
E
Area
is
yeah
sure
a
multi-conductor
I
like
that.
That
sounds
very
orchestral,
so
I'm,
the
coordinating
body
so
I'm
placed
within
the
managing
director's
office
and
I
work
with
all
the
operating
departments
to
carry
out
their
mission,
and
so
we
try
to
do
it
in
a
coordinated
fashion.
We're
making
sure
that
we're
all
working
together.
We
have
a
single
plan
I'm
there
to
help
them
work
through.
If
there's
issues
where
they're
not
getting
enough
resources
or
if
they
need
a
certain
department
at
the
table,
we
convene
regular
strategy
meetings
with
them.
A
Is
a
Herculean
tennis,
but
so
we're
not
we're
here
today
to
try
to
pull
out
of
you.
If
you
had
the
resources
you
need,
what
would
be
those
resources?
How
do
we
is
it
a
question
of
bringing
things
up
to
scale?
Is
it
a
question
of
coordination?
What
are
tangible
things
that
we
can
help
you
with,
because
that's
what
type
of
hearing
this
is
today
that
if
you
could
tap
into
unlimited
resources
and
do
the
things
you
really
wanted
to
do,
what
would
be
those
things.
E
Also
on
that
walk
around
I
had
a
really
good
conversation
with
a
couple
of
the
police
officers
that
were
there,
and
some
of
them
have
been
working
in
this
beat
for
a
while
for
years
right,
and
they
were
talking
about.
My
one
officer
said
that
you
know
things.
It
felt
more
helpful
during
the
resilience
project
and
I
reminded
him
that
I
was
like
Hey,
like
I
was
actually
around
during
that
and
and
but
then
I
pointed
out.
E
The
difference
between
the
resilience
project
and
now
is
that
we
had
shelter
beds
that
came
online
like
specifically
to
support
that
right,
and
so
the
was
a
lot
of
and
can't
resolution
that
was
going
on
that
was
tied
directly
to
having
placements
available
for
people
so
I'd
say.
That's
definitely
something
that
would
be
really
helpful
in
the
space
is
just
having
more
housing
opportunities
and
there
are
ones
that
we're
bringing
online
through
the
settlement,
but
we
can
always
use
more
of
those
and
I
think
also
just
Public
Safety.
E
C
E
I
think
that's
a
really
important
question.
It's
something
we
take
very
seriously.
We
did
just
start
a
planning
process
with
the
community
and
the
mobile
providers
and
City
departments
specifically
to
address
the
quality
of
life,
concerns
around
mobile
service
provision.
We
had
our
first
meeting
last
week.
E
The
city
has
a
lot
of
homework
that
we
need
to
do
to
come
back
to
this
space,
specifically
around
what
we're
able
to
do
when,
in
regards
to
enforcement
permitting
and
whatnot
I'd,
say,
there's
sort
of
like
four
buckets
of
mobile
service
provision
that
we're
seeing
in
the
community
right
now
meal
service.
I
wish.
We
saw
a
lot
of
Today
Medical
Services,
donated
goods
and
I'd,
say
like
sanitation
and
sort
of
like
showers
and
whatnot,
and
so
as
part
of
this
planning
process.
There's
a
discussion
with
the
community
to
figure
out.
E
You
know
like
what
are
our
standards
like
where,
like
I
personally
I,
think
like
we
should
not
be
offering
services
in
front
of
a
school
or
in
front
of
a
daycare
center
or
like
right
at
a
transit
station
and
so
figuring
out
like
what
are
the
best
locations
for
those
with
the
recognition
that
there
are
people
that
desperately
need
these
Services
as
well,
and
so
we
need
to
make
sure
that
they're
still
accessible.
So
that's
the
community
conversation.
E
That's
part
of
the
planning
effort
like
they're,
going
to
help
us
figure
out
exactly
like
what
what
are
the
no-go
areas
and
then
how
can
we
work
together
to
figure
this
out?
There's
also
part
of
that
planning
effort
is
with
the
providers,
so
there
are
providers
that
we
fund
and
the
ones
that
we
fund
we're
able
to
say
like.
E
Please
don't
set
up
in
front
of
the
daycare
center,
but
those
ones
that
we
don't
fund
right
now,
there's
not
really
a
mechanism
to
to
have
them
come
in
line
with
us
and
so
we're
hoping
through
this
planning
process,
we'll
be
able
to
do
that,
especially
the
homework
piece.
That
I
was
saying
for
for
this.
For,
for
the
city,
part
of
the
planning,
like
really
figuring
out
like,
are
there
tools
that
are
available
to
us
around
enforcement
that
we're
not
using
right
now,
and
why
are
we
not
using
them,
and
can
we
bring
those
online?
E
Do
we
need
more
people,
those
types
of
things,
and
so
that's
that's
something
it
just
started
last
week
we're
all
committed
to
working
on
it
together.
August
is
supposed
to
be
everybody's
meeting
in
their
groups
individually
doing
stuff
and,
like
I
said,
the
city
has
a
lot
of
homework
to
do
in
that
space
But
the
whole
group's
coming
back
together
in
September.
C
E
E
For
that
Community
conversation,
because
I
think
it
is
really
important
to
have
that
voice
at
the
table.
Up
until
this
point,
the
last
time
we
had
really
concerted
discussions
with
the
community
about
placement
of
services,
I
would
say:
I
was
a
couple
years
ago.
It
was
typically
around
when
we
had
affordable
restrooms
in
the
community
as
part
of
the
hep
C
response,
and
they
had
input
then,
but
we
haven't
really
done
a
large
process
like
that.
Since
then
about.
E
Does
someone
have
that
drop
in
their
heads?
There's
there's
a
lot.
I
I
can
share
the
list
of
those
that
have
agreed
to
come
to
the
meeting
we
we
did
include
it
was.
It
was
not
limited
just
to
mobile
providers.
We
also
had
like
brick
and
mortar
providers
and
health
systems,
were
there
too,
because
we
are
trying
to
do
a
real
like
holistic,
look
at
the
provision
of
services
and
so
Esperanza
Health
Center
was
there
Episcopal?
Was
there
a
Temple?
Was
there
we
are
trying
to
get
everybody
at.
E
G
A
E
They
have,
and
we
have
started
part
of
that
planning
effort
is
getting
a
schedule
of
where
they
are
right
now,
but
we're
trying
to
be
very
clear
that
this
isn't
the
city
hasn't
like
approved
the
schedule.
This
is
just
sort
of
like
where
you're
providing
Services
now
and
what
these
you're
out
there
now
and
then
through
this
process,
providing
a
way
of
like
approving
the
schedule,
but
right
now,
but
we
do
have
a
good
sense
of
like
where
folks
are
that
have
a
regular
schedule
and
what
services
they
are.
E
E
E
C
And
so
you
know,
I
think
that
we
have
plenty
of
community
groups
in
in
every
part
of
Kensington
Harrogate.
You
know,
as
we
kind
of
work
our
way
out.
There
are
many
many
groups
who
bring
Community
residents
together
and
who
should
be
a
part
of
the
conversation
regarding
where
these
mobile
providers
should
be
set
up.
C
C
We
never
have
a
a
accurate
number
of
how
many
people
were
serving
right,
and
so,
if
we
can
tell
that
the
number
is
higher
in
the
summer,
then
let's
figure
out
how
we
spread
these
mobile
providers
out
that
are
providing
the
same
Services
into
different
parts
of
the
neighborhood.
So
they're,
not
they're,
not
concentrated
in
in
one
specific
area,
I'm
going
to
continue
to
say
that
my
priority
over
the
next
few
months
is
to
break
up
concentration
in
the
Kensington
Harrogate
community
and
I
want
your
help.
C
I
need
everyone's
help
to
be
able
to
get
this
done,
while
understanding
that
sometimes
folks
are
not
going
to
go
in
to
get
the
necessary
services
in
the
mobile
units
are
really
important,
but
we
can
have
them
continuing
to
affect
negatively
negatively
impact
community
of
life
in
that
in
those
residential
areas.
Thank
you.
A
C
Yes,
there
should
be
a
disbursement
of
services
to
different
parts
of
the
neighborhood,
especially
if
they
overlap
and
they
should
not
be
in
residential
neighborhoods.
We
have
Lehigh
Avenue,
we
have
Kensington
Avenue,
we
have
Aramingo
Avenue.
We
have
a
lot
of
wide
spaces
that
are
less
than
80
percent
residential,
where
some
of
these
Services
can
be
drawn
to
right,
and
that
would
not
impact
directly
children
and
families,
and
so
again,
I
want
to
recognize
that
these
services
are
necessary.
They
just
can't
be
in
the
same
place
all
at
the
same
time.
E
So,
just
specifically
on
this
project,
specifically
on
the
sighting
of
mobile
services.
Yes,
but
there's
there's
always
been
planning
discussions
with
the
community
going
on,
but
this
one
specifically
is
really
intentionally
focused
exactly
I'm
like
what
councilmember
Lazada
was
asking
us
to
focus
on,
and
so
what
is
the
appropriate
location
for
these
mobile
services
that
are
needed?
A
E
The
city's
budget,
yeah
I,
so
I,
don't
want
to
since
I'm
on
the
record.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I
get
back
to
you
on
that
piece
specifically
and
so
I'll
provide
a
list
of
the
providers
that
we
know
are
providing
mobile
services
that
are
attending
this
planning
effort
and
what?
What?
What
percentage
of
them
like
that
the
city
is
providing
them
payment
for.
A
E
I
think
that's
something
that
we
we
can.
We
can
work
together
on
to
get
that
there
are.
There
are
various
Outreach
and
engagement
teams
out
there
that
do
keep
a
census
of
who
they're
dealing
with.
There
is
the
point
time
count
that
happens
every
year,
and
so
that's
that's.
One
of
our
data
points
that
we
look
at,
but
I
think
that's
definitely
something
that
we
can
between
our
teams
come
up
with
a
number,
because
there's
there's
a
weekly
account.
E
E
So
that's
the
piece
that
we're
looking
into,
and
so
there
are
the
the
city
providers
so,
for
example,
wound
care
the
the
wound,
care
van,
that's
out
there,
that
the
city
is
funding
that
we
have
the
contract
with
them
to
provide
this
service.
They
are
permitted
and
licensed
to
provide
that
service.
What
we're
looking
into
is!
C
What
happens
to
mobile
units
that
show
up
in
our
community
that
are
not
working
directly
with
the
city
of
Philadelphia,
who
don't
have
permits?
Who
are
these
community
do-gooders
and
who
don't
follow
any
of
the
rules?
What
happens
with
them?
Who
is
responsible
for
enforcing
them?
Removing
them?
Yes,.
E
Addressing
them
so
so,
depending
on
what
service
they're
providing
in
the
community
there's
different
answers
around
the
enforcement
piece
and
so,
for
example,
meal
provision,
every
provider,
that's
serving
meals,
is
required
to
get
a
permit
from
the
health
department
and
they
have
to
go
through
a
surf
safe
course.
But
it's
not
necessarily
the
permits
not
necessarily
providing
approval
to
provide
the
service
at
a
specific
location
and
that's
a
piece
that
the
city
is
trying
to
figure
out
like
how
can
we
do
a
better
job
around
permitting
tied
to
locations
for
donated
Goods?
E
There's,
no,
there's
no
ability
to
enforce
around
that
right.
Now.
We've
looked
into
it
with
Ellen
I
in
the
Law
Department.
If
they
were
selling
the
goods,
then
there's
the
then
it's
considered
vending
and
then
there's
enforcement
around
that,
but
someone
who's
pulling
up
and
just
donating
Goods
there's
really
not
not
anything.
We
can
do
specifically
around
that.
E
That's
not
to
say
that
the
police
department
doesn't
ask
people
to
stop
or
just
sort
of
explain
like
what's
going
on,
like
hey
you're,
dropping
off
all
this
stuff
in
the
middle
of
a
Park,
where
kids
are
going
to
be,
do
you
think
that's
a
good
idea,
there's
a
lot
of
those
kinds
of
conversations
with
providers,
but
from
a
enforcement
piece.
Like
that's,
that's
part
of
this
planning
effort.
That's
part
of
us
like
really
coming
back
to
the
community
with
really
clear
answer.
E
H
Start
by
commend
the
wrath
of
work
that
you're
doing
with
the
opioid
Response
Unit.
It's
just
an
incredible
amount
of
work,
and
you
know,
as
council
member
Jones
said,
you're
also
like
leading
the
the
orchestra
right
so
I
think
that's
commendable.
I
have
a
related
question
about
Community
engagement
and
Community
touch
points.
H
I
know
that,
even
when
we're
doing
a
ton
of
work,
there
can
be
a
mismatch
between
what
the
city
is
delivering
and
what
people
and
communities
actually
need,
or
people
in
communities
getting
a
particular
service
in
the
way
that
they
need
it
or
where
they
need
it.
When
we
were
here
the
first
time
a
couple
of
months
ago,
we
heard
a
lot
of
a
requests
from
the
community.
A
lot
of
it
was
basic
quality
of
life
services,
and
so
that
has
me
wondering
what
are
our
touch
points
right?
H
I
would
want
to
see
in
a
crisis
situation
that
that
we
have
clear,
transparent
and
very
frequent
communication
with
people
who
are
impacted
about
what
it
is
that
we're
doing
how
that's
working,
what
might
need
to
be
tweaked
and
changed.
So
I
wanted
to
hear
a
little
bit
about
those
touch
points
and
how
the
orchestra
is
getting
feedback
from
the
people
who
actually
live
in
in
the
community
as
well
as
a
lot
of
folks
that
are
out
here
trying
to
do
service
provision.
What
do
those
touch
points
look
like
and
how
frequently
do
they
happen?
H
E
So,
thank
you
for
that
question.
I
actually
take
that
piece
really
importantly,
because
I
think,
especially
with
with
the
city's
response
around
this
piece,
I,
think
the
the
community
often
voices
that
they
have
felt
sort
of
Left
Behind
and
that
all
of
our
services
are
not
focused
on
them,
and
so
that's
definitely.
I
have
four
strategies
for
my
plan
and
one
is
just
focus
on
the
community
for
Community
Support
to
make
sure
that
we're
really
intentional
around
that
how
we
get
that,
and
so
so
we've
been.
E
We
work
really
closely
with
the
Civic
leaders
and
CDC
leaders,
and
so
that's
been
that's
sort
of
that's
been
our
way
of
doing
it.
What
I
like
about
this
Kensington
plan,
effort
that
nkctc
and
impact
are
pulling
together
is
that
it's
getting
more
voices
to
the
table,
which
I
think
is
really
important
and
just
through
you
know
a
couple
of
the
meetings
I've
been
in
and
just
hearing
additional
perspective
on
things
and
and
also
just
the
level
of
empathy
from
these
Community
residents
like
the
the
stuff
that
they're
experiencing
like
I.
G
E
I
do
have
to
give
a
shout
out
to
all
the
departments
in
this
room,
because,
while
I'm
sort
of
the
conductor
like
they're
the
ones
that
have
to
actually
do
the
work
right
and
so
they're,
the
ones
that
should
get
credit
where
credit's,
due
for
things
that
are
working
and
and
help
support
them
stuff
and
so
like
I,
can
do
any
of
my
work
without
all
the
people
that
are
sitting
behind
me.
So.
H
Absolutely
thank
you
and
I
didn't
mean
to
leave
out
all
of
the
all
of
our
folks
at
agencies
that
are
carrying
out
this
incredible
work.
I
respect,
cdc's
Civics,
you
know,
I
come
from
that
world
prior
to
council.
I,
do
think
that
there's
a
difference
between
sort
of
Engagement
that
involves
Community
leaders
and
engagement,
that's
for
everybody
I
would
would
want
to
see
in
a
situation
like
this.
H
You
know
what,
if
we
had
a
standing
meeting
or
a
standing
engagement
that
people
who
live
here
can
come
and
hear
about
what
the
city
is
doing
and
comment
on
how
that's
working
for
them.
I.
Think
you
know
if
we're
working
around
the
clock
on
this
issue
here
in
Kensington
and
people
here,
don't
know
what
we're
doing
or
don't
feel
like
they're
being
noticed
by
the
city.
That's
a
problem
right,
and
so
a
piece
of
that
is
is
engagement
and
I.
Don't
think
that
we
can
just
lean
on
a
specific
core
group.
H
A
You,
member
I'm
gonna,
are
you
all
right
before
we
go
to
member
Harrity
recommendations
on
one
of
them,
I
want
our
scribe,
write
them
down.
There
was
a
question
of
the
distribution
of
resources
that
we
need
answered.
The
question
I
always
ask,
is
how
many
and
how
much
did
it
cost?
How
many
people
did
we
serve?
How
much
did
it
cost
and
and
so
that,
whether
it's
our
city
dollars
State
dollars,
Federal,
we
have
to
be
accountable.
If
we,
if
it
ain't,
measured
it
ain't
managed
and
I
went
to
public
school.
D
Leading
me
right
in
there
Madam
conductor,
since
you
like
that
title,
and
you
know
my
questions
fairly
simple.
You
heard
us
up
here
when
we
started
our
chairman,
Jones
district
council
person,
Lazada
and
myself
say
that
what's
been
going
on
is
not
working
since
you're.
The
conductor
I'd
like
to
just
know
that
a
you
agree
with
that
statement
and
if
so
give
me
one
example
of
something
that
isn't
working,
that
you
plan
on
changing
and
then
I'll
have
another
question.
After
that:
okay.
E
And
so
I,
it's
not
that
I
think
that
things
aren't
working.
I,
think
that
things
are
not
at
the
scale
that
they
would
need
to
be
at,
and
so
a
great
example
is
just
around
the
quality
of
life.
There's
six
different
teams
that
are
out
there
every
day
cleaning.
It
does
not
feel
like
that
to
the
community.
E
That's
not
the
experience
that
the
community
is
having
that's
not
the
experience
that
they're
seeing
but
there's
there
is
a
lot
of
cleaning
activity,
that's
happening
and
I
think
about
the
I
think
about
the
residents
and
what
they're
experiencing,
but
then
also
the
workers
on
those
Crews
and
just
how
demoralizing
that
is
for
them
to
you,
know:
they're,
cleaning,
up
illegal
dumping
spots
and
then
they're
dumped
again
like
on
the
same
day
and
so
I
I.
Think
that's
a
great
example
of
we
have
a
lot
of
activity
happening
in
the
space.
E
We
have
multiple
teams
that
are
doing
this
work
in
this
space,
but
yet
we're
still
not
making
a
difference,
and
so
I
mean
councilmember.
Lazada
walked
us
through
a
plan.
Today
of,
can
we
look
at?
Is
it
so?
We
have
all
this
activity.
Is
it
that
it's
not
the
right
schedule?
Are
we
not
doing
it
at
the
right
time?
E
Is
it
do
we
have
the
right
equipment
and
so
just
trying
to
do
that
analysis
of
what
we're
doing
and
see
if
we're
able
to
get
to
scale
with
the
current
resources
we
have,
or
does
it
require
a
resource
request
to
get
more
and
I
just
think?
That's
like
a
really
good
example
of
just
sort
of
the
scale
that
we're
at.
D
D
Being
from
the
community,
what
you're
doing
is
not
helping
not
working
and
not
in
the
slightest
bit
appeasing
the
residents
of
this
area?
Thank
you.
You
know
Madam
conductor,
as
you
say,
it
comes
all
down
to
your
coordination
and
you
know.
I
just
would
like
to
see
some
better
coordination
and
maybe
some
more
feedback,
and
maybe
some
more
Community
groups.
I,
don't
know
if
my
wife
Marty
have
you
got
any
information
from
them
from
Kika
for
or
to
Kensington
Independence
to
the
group,
people
that
are
actually
in
the
neighborhood.
D
Another
thing
has
my
my
district
council
person
handed
to
these
people
that
are
down
there,
giving
out
food
and
service
trying
to
service
these
people
without
their
permits
and
doing
it
illegally
are
creating
a
lot
of
that
trash
that
they're
having
to
come
out
and
pick
back
up
again.
You'll
see
them
pull
up
with
a
van
at
Kensington
Avenue
and
they
sit
there
and
they
give
out
fruit
and
they
give
out
food,
and
then
they
leave
all
their
crap
sitting
there.
The
residents
are
tired
and
we
get
listen.
D
D
No
disrespect,
but
if,
if,
if,
if
I
got
to
pick,
somebody
that's
on
my
list
you're
on
my
list
because
I'm
not
seeing
it
I'm,
not
feeling
it
I've,
been
here
for
a
minute
now,
complaining
and
I
haven't
seen
no
difference
in
what
my
Neighbors
have
to
deal
with
with
our
children.
You
have
to
deal
with
it
so,
and
you
know
I'll
I'll
give
it
a
break
on
that
because
you
know
I'm
I'm,
just
a
little
emotional
kind
of
guy.
It's
the
Irish
in
me,
but
I
have
some
honest
questions.
D
I
I
Thank
you
thank
councilman,
trying
to
make
sure
I'm
close
enough
to
Mike.
My
name
is
Eva
glidestein
first
Deputy
managing
director
I
wanted
to
do
two
things
with
regard
to
the
first
question,
councilman
Harrity
I
want
to
make
sure
the
record
is
clear
that
I
do
not
believe
Noel
poisoned
the
director
of
our
overdose
Response
Unit
said
we
are
satisfied
with
what's
happening.
I
We
understand
and
I
think
she
expressed
our
dissatisfaction,
but
what
she
talked
about
was
one
example
where
we
could
improve
by
scaling
up
certain
activities
and
we'll
continue
to
talk
throughout
the
evening
about
ways
we
can
improve
what
we're
doing
and
see
better
results.
With
regard
to
your
second
question
about
Police
recruitment,
there
was
one
million
dollars
that
was
received
through
thank
you
to
city
council
to
a
mid-year
transfer
ordinance,
and
that
was
fully
expand.
I
Within,
maybe
two
months
on,
and
you
might
have
seen
SEPTA
advertising
a
lot
of
social
media
and
some
Billboards
and
to
appoint
councilman
Hardy.
Even
though
we
had
very
little
time,
we
did
make
sure
that
there
were
Billboards
that
were
an
I-95
towards
at
least
towards
other
communities
where
we
could
recruit.
Now
there
is
three
million
dollars
available.
We
have
begun
to
meet
to
plan
that
the
expenditure,
those
funds
based
upon
what
we
have
learned
from
the
one
million
dollars
I
personally,
was
in
the
last
meeting
on
that.
I
The
answer
is
absolutely:
yes:
we're
looking
at
trying
to
analyze
how
people
who
responded
to
this,
which
I
think
is
still
open
right
now,
up
until
the
16th,
oh
just
close
and
then
and
then
targeting
the
recruitment
going
forward.
We
did
ask
people
how
they
heard
about
the
campaign
and
who
they
heard
it
from
Etc
and
we'll
be
using
that
data
for
the
next
set
of
resources.
For
that
matter,
and.
D
J
User
Eric
good
evening
here
we
go.
Thank
you.
Danielle
outlaw
police,
commissioner,
we're
still
actually
Gathering
the
data
from
this
campaign
that
just
ended
on
the
16th.
We
look
at
that
as
a
good
opportunity
to
not
only
treat
it
as
a
pilot
project,
but
to
really
see
how
impactful
it
was
to
Circle
back.
Yes,
we
did
make
sure
that
we
hit
all
areas
not
just
to
ensure
diversity,
and
you
know
the
things
that
we
can't
change
but
to
make
sure
that
we
reach
all
people
from
all
walks
of
life.
J
Answer
is
yes
to
that
and
including
Lincoln
and
Cheney
I
think
the
one
we've
talked
about
this
upon
my
arrival
here.
We
have
to
build
a
pipeline
right
and
we're
also
competing
not
just
with
other
law
enforcement
agencies,
but
with
other
just
businesses
in
the
private
sector
who
offer
the
ability
to
work
from
home
and
pay
more
money
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
the
military
is
actually
even
having
recruiting
issues
now
as
well.
J
So
it's
not
just
us
so
I
think
the
points
that
you
make
are
valid
in
that
we
have
to
present
ourselves
and
Market
ourselves
in
a
relatable
way,
but
then
also
develop
a
pipeline
simultaneously.
So,
yes,
we
are
doing
that
and
we
also
recognize
that
you
know
officers,
not
you
know
it
might
be
white
shirts,
but
our
police
officers
that
are
on
the
ground
are
some
of
the
best
recruiters
as
well.
So
it's
not
just
I
think
it's
shouldn't
us.
It
shouldn't
just
be
us
looking
at
incentivizing
those
who
want
to
come.
J
D
They
do
it
all
over
the
place
in
all
kinds
of
businesses.
You
get
a
little
bit
of
this
bonus
if
you
bring
some
somebody
in
they
last
longer
than
so
many
months.
In
our
case
past
the
academy
or
something
like
that,
and
that
that
that
is
a
great
idea,
and
you
know
anything
we
can
do
to
get
the
word
of
mouth
out
there
and
to
make
it
like.
It
was
a
good
job
with
good
people
just
trying
to
protect
and
serve
and
get
home
to
their
families,
and
you
know.
A
Yes,
sir,
so
if
I
before
I
recognize
member
Johnson
so
and
and
you
can
fill
a
book
two
books
with
what
I
don't
know
about
tactics
in
law
enforcement,
however,
what
I
would
question?
Is
it
a
question
of
more
officers
or
a
slight
change
in
policy
about
what
is
acceptable
behavior
in
our
neighborhood
and
what
is
offensive?
Actionable
law
enforcement
actionable.
A
A
A
Is
there
a
sea
shift
of
change
that
needs
to
happen?
That
says
that
for
you
to
walk
in
and
take
Goods
off,
the
shelf
is
is
not
acceptable
and
so
whether
we
have
more
police
on
the
streets
in
that
situation
or
less,
would
that
change
the
Dynamic
here
and
I
know
that's
a
tricky
question,
but
answer
it
in
a
way
that
would
be
recommended
to
us
to
be
helpful
to
you.
I.
J
Think
the
answer
is
both
right,
so
whatever
the
strategy
is
you're
going
to
need
the
Personnel
to
enforce
whatever
it
is.
The
biggest
thing
is
we're
the
we're
the
entryway
We're
The
Gatekeepers
into
the
criminal
justice
system
right.
So
we
make
an
arrest
there's
a
large
ecosystem,
that's
beyond
the
police.
Once
we
make
the
arrest
beyond
the
DA's
office,
Beyond
and
so
forth,
we
all
have
to
be
on
the
same
page
as
to
what
we're
prioritizing.
So,
if
we
say
look
today
or
wherever
city-wide,
it's
not
okay
to
do
whatever
it
is
we're
talking
about.
J
Everybody
needs
to
be
in
agreement
that
it's
not
okay.
To
do
this,
because
my
folks
are
out
here
day
in
and
day
out,
we
can
do
narcotic
sweeps,
we
can
do
whatever
it
is
and
we
can
make
the
arrests.
We
have
the
tables,
we
show
the
guns,
we
show
the
drugs
we
do
all
of
this,
but
if
somewhere
later
down
the
road,
it
falls
apart
because
it's
not
prioritized
in
the
same
way
and
I'm
not
talking
about
any
one
particular
entity
at
this
time.
J
We
have
to
make
sure
that
we're
focusing
on
the
back
end
right.
So
when
we
come
in
what
are
we
doing
to
sustain
the
efforts
right
because
we
can't
have
police
on
the
corner,
24
7.?
What
are
we
doing
to
make
sure
that
if
this
person
is
going
to
be
out
of
custody,
that
there's
something
to
sustain
that
enforcement
effort
and
to
make
sure
that
they're
not
revisiting
right?
And
we
heard
about
the
recidivism
rates
earlier?
But
we
all
everybody
in
the
room
has
a
part.
We've
all
been
working
together,
but
I
think
to.
J
D
C
That
has
to
end
I'm
going
to
use
an
example
before
you
respond
I'm
going
to
use
an
example,
we
had
no
tense
going
up,
we
somehow
or
another
opioid
dollars
got
distributed,
got
dispersed.
We
started
to
see
all
of
these
Community
groups
got
groups
got
funded,
we
start
to
see
noon,
tents
popping
up
everywhere.
We
ask
police
and
get
rid
of
these
tents.
They've
not
been
up
for
72
hours.
We
need
to
get
rid
of
them
immediately.
They
start
to
do
the
work
and
then
get
told
by
somebody
Stand
Down.
Why.
J
Why
so
here's
the
answer
to
that?
This
is
the
very
real
answer
to
that.
There
isn't
a
somebody
what
we
see
we
we're
human
beings,
so
if
we
make
an
arrest-
and
we
see
that
this
person
is
back
out
on
the
street
after
so
many
arrests
and
so
many
returns
back
on
the
street
human
beings
are
going
to
shut
down
and
say:
well,
you
know
what
maybe
this
isn't
the
way
I'm
supposed
to
be
doing
it,
there's
not
a
Direction
coming
from
the
sky
saying
all
right.
You
are
not
to
do
this.
J
You
are
not
to
do
that
right
as
it
relates
to
to
certain
things.
The
laws
are
what
they
are.
We
enforce
the
laws.
Now
we
have
been
told
you
know
when
it
comes
to
certain
things
with
using
drugs
on
the
street,
or
you
know
open-air
drug
use,
and
there
are
people
behind
me
that
can
attest
to
this
that
deal
with
this
every
day
that
we
do
have
parameters.
J
There
are
certain
things
that
we
need
to
do
in
order
to
test
drugs
and
make
sure
that
they're
drugs
before
we
make
this
arrest
so
on
and
so
forth.
Right,
so
it's
not
again,
this
isn't
a
pointing
of
fingers,
but
I
think
folks
have
to
be
very
clear
when
we
say
we're
prioritizing
when
I
say
I'm
going
out,
my
people
are
going
out
and
they're
doing
a
sweep.
That's
because
we
prioritize
open-air
drug
use.
We
prioritize
guns,
we
prioritize
all
the
illegal
things
that
you
see.
J
So
that
means
that
the
expectation
is
that
later
on
down
the
road,
as
it
goes
through
the
pipeline,
that
everyone
else
shares
the
same
priority
and
there's
consequences
for
that.
That's
just
the
UN
there's
not
a
voice
coming
from
the
sky,
saying
that
this
isn't
going
to
happen.
This
isn't
or
this
not.
You
know
this
is
going
to
happen.
It's
when
we
see
these
people
back
out.
We
fear
we
all
walk
away
and
we
figure
well
I
guess,
but
we're
going
to
keep
at
it.
J
L
There
you
go
one
two
I
just
want
to
appoint
a
clarific
point
of
information
before
I.
Ask
my
own
questions
regarding,
and
it
goes
along
the
lines
of
what
the
chairman
talked
about.
Regarding
businesses
in
this
community
and
the
threshold
of
how
much
you
can
steal
and
get
away
with
right.
So
can
you
clarify
the
actual
policy
and
I
know
going
pre-pandemic
I
think
we
kind
of
relax
like
going
after
individuals
going
inside
stories,
but
I
think
we
just
lost
a
wild.
M
Good
evening
Council,
my
name
is
Frank
vernorman,
the
Deputy
Commissioner
of
Investigations,
so
our
policy,
as
far
as
how
what
we
do
has
never
changed
if
we're
called
and
we
arrive
and
some
we're
told
someone's
stolen
something
from
the
business.
We
arrest
them
and
we
followed
a
state
statute.
Now
what
it's
all
that
does
is
it
it
goes
in
and
it
gets
processed.
What
happens
after
that
is
at
our
control.
So
you
know
the
state
statute
is
pretty
clear.
M
M
I
could
look
at
that.
I
could
do
a
little
analysis.
We
have
been
doing
a
project
in
in
Center
City
really
looking
because
they
were
one
of
the
high
areas
in
the
city
for
retail
theft
and
we've
really
increased
our
communication
with
the
DA's
office
with
the
businesses
in
getting
the
prolific
people
identified
and
removed
out
of
the
game,
we're
moving
that
into
South
Philadelphia
now
and
we're
starting
to
work
with
the
same
businesses,
because
a
lot
of
them
are
shared.
M
D
No
stores,
no
disrespect
and
I
apologize,
I'm,
a
very
respectful
guy
to
police,
see
that,
but
please
don't
fall
as
smoke
as
they
would
say.
You
understand,
I.
We
need
something
to
happen.
We
need
it
to
happen
now,
I'm
out
on
the
street
every
day,
I
talk
to
these
business
people.
They
say
they
call
they're
told
that
they
can't
do
nothing
about
it,
because
they're
not
going
to
be
they're
not
going
to
come
out.
I
I
I,
while
we're
trying
to
get
to
a
thing
is,
is
where
is
the
breakdown?
Where
is
the
lapse?
D
M
M
I
say
start,
let
me
clarify,
let
me
clarify
what
I
said:
we're
we're
working
in
the
same
way
we've
always
had
when
we
get
called.
We
make
an
arrest
when
I
say
look
at
it,
I'm
talking
about
analytic
analytics.
How
can
we
do
it
better?
How
could
we
zero
in
on
the
people
that
are
terrorizing
the
businesses
and
that's
what
they're
doing
in
Center
City.
L
You
Mr,
chairman
and
I'll,
be
brief.
That
was
part
of
my
point
of
information
and
I
want
to
thank
the
district
council
member
Ketch
lizada
for
leading
the
charge
and
for
more
and
reinvigorated
and
passed
around
and
wrapping
our
arms
around
this
issue.
Collectively,
I
just
want
to
get
an
idea
from
this
Noel
one.
When
did
the
Kensington
plan
begin
to
what
is
the
metrics
that
are
being
used
right
and
the
goals
that
you
are
focusing
on
and
how
you're
measuring
success
in
this
particular
area?
L
That
makes
the
Kensington
plan
that
you're
working
on
different
than
any
other
planet
we're
working
on
across
the
city
of
Philadelphia
and
then
last
but
not
least,
what
I
believe
is
the
most
important
part
of
the
question
is:
how
often
are
yourself
and
the
other
agencies
are
y'all
meeting,
Weekly,
right,
quarterbacking
and
addressing
this
issue,
because
that
will
reflect
there's
a
sense
of
urgency
and
addressing
this
issue
and
we
recognize
as
leaders
in
government,
we
can
come
together
with
something
that's
important.
We
just
saw
I-95,
you
know
certain
businesses
along
the
quarter.
L
This
is
about
primarily
black
and
brown
people
right
and
people
of
color
right
that
live
inside
this
community
right,
and
so
what
is
the
sense
of
urgency
in
terms
of
how
we
address
the
issues
of
Kensington
and
so
I
want
to
get
an
idea
of
when
did
y'all
start?
How
are
you
measuring
success
in
terms
of
how
you're
going
to
be
moving
forward.
E
E
A
sternographer,
oh
sure,
Noel
poison,
director
of
the
API
Response
Unit
managing
director's
office.
So
specifically
on
Kensington,
we
meet
weekly
City
Department
leadership
is
meeting
weekly
on
Kensington
on
Public
Safety.
We
have
a
every
Friday
weekly
meeting,
specifically
on
Kensington
Public
Safety,
at
that
public
safety
meeting.
It's
the
Philadelphia
Police
Department
District
Attorney's
Office
SEPTA,
the
school
district,
Town
watch
office
of
Criminal,
Justice
I'm,
probably
missing
some
people,
but
so
specifically
in
public
safety.
E
We're
meeting
weekly
on
that-
and
we
will
definitely
be
taking
things
back
from
this
hearing
back
to
that
meeting
and
seeing
how
we
can
operationalize
the
things
that
have
risen
up
today
around
that
space.
You
asked
about
the
Kensington
plan.
I
want
to
be
clear.
The
Kensington
plan
is
not
my
plan.
It's
not
a
plan
that
the
city
is
owning
at
all,
and
the
plan
hasn't
it's
in
the
process
of
starting
and
so
there's
not
a
plan.
That's
been
written,
it's
not
documented.
It's
not!
They
are
starting
from
a
point
where
they
looked
at.
E
They
each
had
a
plan
already,
so
they
did
an
analysis
of
that
plan.
They
looked
at
where
they
overlapped
and
now
they're
launching
the
planning
process.
The
planning
process
is
being
started
now.
The
city
is
participating
in
the
plan
where
we're
making
sure
that
we're
bringing
resources
and
supporting
it.
The
first
two
efforts
that
they
were
taking
up
as
part
of
the
planning
process
was
looking
at
the
parks
and
the
schools
just.
L
E
That's
because
I
want
to
make
sure
that
people
like
know
about
it,
because
they're
still
trying
to
get
additional
voices
to
the
table
and
I
try
to
promote
it
as
much
as
possible,
but
it's
definitely
not
I'm,
not
leading
this
planning
effort
I'm
just
part
of
it
separately,
the
abood
Response
Unit.
We
have
an
action
plan
that
we
put
together
every
year,
specifically
in
four
areas:
around
prevention,
treatment,
Public,
Safety
and
Community
Support,
there's
multiple
action
items
that
departments
are
assigned
and
that
we're
working
on
each
year.
E
E
We
are
the
units
Focus
Citywide,
but
we
do
spend
a
majority
of
our
time
focused
on
Kensington
because
it
is
the
epicenter,
but
it
might
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
say
that
overdoses
are
rising
in
every
neighborhood
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia,
specifically
impacting
black
and
brown
communities
outside
of
Kensington
as
well.
So
my
job
is
making
sure
that
we
don't
take
our
foot
off
the
gas
at
all
in
Kensington,
but
trying
to
figure
out.
How
can
we
also
increase
Outreach
and
engagement
and
education
around
overdose
risk
in
other
communities
as
well?.
L
And
last
but
not
least,
and
because
the
opioid
response
team
is
specifically
focusing
on
Kensington
from
the
administration
standpoint,
are
we
investing
additional
dollars
and
resources
around
this
particular
issue
totally
separate
than
what
we're
doing
across
the
city
in
terms
of
us
addressing
this
from
a
state
of
emergency
approach,
because
again,
what's
taking
place
in
Kensington
has
been
taking
place
in
all
parts
of
the
city
of
Philadelphia
irregardless
of
what
people
look
like
in
their
neighborhoods,
it's
not
taking
place
across
the
city
of
Philadelphia.
It's
like
intent.
L
Can
you
can
have
us,
has
a
special
treatment
where
you
can
kind
of
do
what
you
want
to
do
right
and
so
I'm
trying
to
figure
out.
Are
we
aggressively
saying
we're
being
intentional
about
investing
resources
and
support
in
this
particular
part
of
the
city
of
Philadelphia,
because
it
is
a
crisis
nationally
and
even
globally,
people
point
the
Kensington
as
an
example
of
what
not
to
do
in
terms
of
operating
and
moving
forward
in
the
city,
so
I
just
want
to
see.
Is
there
like
a
special
treatment
for
this
area?
Yeah.
E
There's
definitely
been
medicinal
funding
identified
for
it.
We
can
always
use
more
funding,
though
I
mean,
as
it
was
talked
about
like
just
to
get
additional
people
and
services
and
resources
out
there.
I
don't
think
we're
at
scale
for
most
of
our
programs.
I,
don't
think
we
have
enough
resources,
that's
needed
for
for
the
crisis.
L
A
The
reason
why
remember
Lazada,
member
Harrity
member
squilla
introduced
the
Kensington
Marshall
Plan
is
so
that
we
would
intensify
double
down
on
what
resources
are
uniquely
needed
for
here,
because
if
these
streets
aren't
safe,
nowhere
is
safe
and
yeah.
We're
going
to
look
at
other
parts
of
of
the
district.
A
A
Yes,
there
is
a
problem
city-wide,
but
it's
intensified
right
here
and
that
a
lot
of
times
people
will
go,
get
orders
they'll
go
into
a
Tavern
say
what
do
you
need
out
of
CVS?
What
do
you
need
a
I'm
going
shopping
for
you,
personal
shopping?
We
we
have
to
send
a
signal
that
we
care
about
people's
human
needs.
A
I've
got
I,
got
members
that
fight
for
that
kind
of
resource,
but
we
also
have
to
fight
for
the
small
business
that
takes
their
treasury.
How
do
they
pocket
their
life
investment
to
make
sure
that
they
don't
I
talked
to
a
gentleman
outside
who
has
to
think
about
whether
or
not
this
is
even
worth
it
to
him
and
his
family,
like
I'm,
investing
all
my
money
and
it's
going
right
out
the
door.
So
this
plan
we
don't
have
forever
and
as
member
Johnson
talked
about,
we
have
to
start
measuring
it.
I
Thank
you,
councilman
Jones,
just
as
an
example
of
some
of
the
things
that
we've
done
differently
in
Kensington
would
be
the
establishment
of
the
new
police
district,
which
is
now
several
years
old.
At
this
point,
the
cleaning
schedule
which
we
all
think
is
inadequate,
is
well
beyond
what
we
do
in
any
other
neighborhood
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia
and
the
investment
that
that
was
that
we
have
made
prior
to
the
opioid
settlement
and
with
the
opioid
settlement
is
again
far
different
than
we
do
in
other
neighborhoods.
I
C
In
all
honesty,
is
this:
the
conditions
that
you
would
let
your
family
walk
around
in
foreign
and
I'm
working
with
Noel,
because
I'm
really
trying
to
be
respectful
to
who
I
believe
are
my
colleagues
in
the
city
right
I,
don't
want
to
embarrass
anybody.
That's
not
my
goal
here,
but
there
are
over
seven
or
eight
different
entities
that
get
a
lot
of
money
to
clean
this
community,
many
of
their
services
or
many
of
their
times
overlap.
I
That
money,
so
let
me
be
clear
we
we
have
already
agreed
today.
It
is
not
working
I
think
people
are
working
very
hard.
You
don't
see
the
results
of
that
work
because
we
either
have
to
scale
it
up,
change
the
schedule
or
do
both,
but
I
want
to
be
clear
that
that
70
million
dollars
is
not
only
going
towards
cleaning
it's
going
to
other
resources
as
well,
and
so
I
don't
want
that
to
be
misunderstood
either.
We.
C
Needed
to
go
to
cleaning,
we
need
to
start
peeling
back
on
all
of
the
issues
that
we
have
in
this
community
and
some
of
the
low-hanging
fruit
that
we
discussed
in
the
last
meeting
that
was
requested
by
the
people
of
this
community
was
trash
collection
right.
We
we
have
agreed
that
we
will
do
a
pilot
right
and
then
we
will
work
on
24-hour
cleaning,
but
I've
been
asking
for
that
since
November.
I
We
welcome
your
partnership
with
this
I
just
want
to
respect.
As
you
do
I
know,
everybody
in
Council
does
the
hard
work
of
the
people
who
are
behind
those
trash
trucks
who
are
out
there
in
the
park
and
out
there
on
the
streets.
They
are
working
hard,
they're
doing
things
that
I
don't
do
and
I
you
know
and
I
know.
Many
of
us
would
find
very,
very
difficult
to
do.
O
O
Every
time
we
go
to
a
meeting,
we
hear
the
same
ideas
about
how
we're
doing
it
I,
don't
care
how
much
resources
you
put
in
to
what
we're
doing
for
not
addressing
the
problem.
It's
not
going
to
fix
the
situation.
The
problem
is
the
people
that
are
on
the
street
that
are
addicted
to
drugs.
Are
we
looking
at
long-term
Continuum
of
Care?
Are
we
looking
at?
How
do
we
get
these
people
into
treatment
when
they
are
endangering
themselves
and
the
people
around
them?
O
O
What
are
we
doing
to
address
the
problem
to
get
them
off
the
street,
and
if
people
cannot
make
the
decision
for
themselves,
what
are
we
doing,
working
with
the
state
or
others
instead
of
a
302
or
something
else
that
we
could
then
commit
them?
We
created
something
called
amp
Court,
that's
supposed
to
be
able
to
help
people
to
be
able
to
go
into
treatment
and
to
be
done
by
a
judge
that
that
is
something
to
be
able
to
help
people.
We
spend
a
lot
of
time
and
resources
putting
that
together.
How
is
that?
O
How
are
we
working
in
that
organization
in
that
in
those
steps
to
get
people
into
court
and
get
people
sometimes
into
treatment,
even
though
they
don't
want
to
go
we're
tired
of
hearing
that
we
went
and
engaged
them?
Our
folks
do
a
great
job
and
our
cleaning
people
do
a
great
job,
but
I
don't
care
how
much
money
we
put
in
the
cleaning
when
we
allow
other
people
to
come,
throw
trash
on
the
street
after
they're
done
cleaning.
They
got
to
come
back
and
do
the
same
thing.
O
So
the
problem
is
the
people
on
the
street
and
how
are
we
getting
them
off
the
street
instead
of
saying
that
it's
okay
for
them
to
stay
on
the
street
because
they
don't
want
to
go
anywhere?
That
is
not
an
answer.
We
have
failed.
They
said
time
and
time
again
we
do
the
same
thing
over
and
over
again
and
we
expect
a
different
result.
The
reason
why
the
streets
are
the
way
they
are
is
because
we
allow
people
to
live
on
the
street
and
he
said
because
they're
they're
not
hurting
themselves.
O
They
are
killing
themselves
slowly.
This
is
a
a
Public
Health
crisis.
When
we
had
covid
right,
we
closed
stores,
we
closed
shops.
We
did
whatever
we
do,
so
people
can't
go
out
right,
so
we
could
protect
them.
What
are
we
doing
to
the
people
on
the
street
that
are
killing
themselves?
Slowly,
we're
not
doing
anything,
no
we're
doing
we're,
giving
more
help
to
stay
on
the
street.
That's
what
our
policy
has
been
and
our
policy
has
failed.
O
O
All
right,
but
a
Public
Health
crisis,
we
close
doors.
We
close
businesses
kensington's
in
a
Public
Health
crisis
right
not
only
with
mental
health
and
addiction,
but
then
you
have
defecation
urination
everything
else.
That's
going
on
that
our
kids
have
to
walk
through
needles
all
over
the
place
right.
Why
don't
we
close
the
streets
and
say
hey?
Where
do
you
live?
You
live
here
all
right,
you
could
go.
If
not
you
got
to
go
into
treatment.
You
can't
be
on
the
street
sleeping
in
the
streets.
O
Let's
help
these
people,
let's
work
with
the
state
and
work
with
others
to
get
them
the
assistance
they
really
need,
instead
of
continuing
to
enable
them
to
kill
themselves
and
I.
Think
I.
We
want
to
hear
from
Health
what
we're
doing
in
that
aspect,
and
not
only
the
the
nice
sound
quotes
of
how
many
people
we
assisted.
We
have
open
beds,
but
people
don't
go.
Why
don't
they
go
right?
We
have
medical
assistance,
treatment
that
we
have
roving
Vans
now
giving
mat
out
right,
but
we're
still
enabling
people
to
stay
on
the
streets.
O
A
P
P
Sorry
shall
I
repeat
what
I
just
said:
the
laws
in
the
state
of
Pennsylvania
about
the
provision
of
Medical
Care
against
somebody's
will
are
very,
very
strict
and
Dr
Bowen
can
talk
more
about
the
302
process,
but
essentially
providing
Medical
Care
to
somebody
against
their
will,
except
in
a
very
narrow
circumstance,
is
considered
to
be
assault.
So,
while
we
might-
and
there
are
many
situations
where
we
desperately
want
to
provide
medical
care
to
somebody
who
is
saying
no-
we
have
to
convince
them.
P
O
P
O
Q
A
R
R
She
first
started
out
about
302
we've
actually
about
Fourth
Street
when
we
basically
about
putting
him
in
front
of
a
judge.
This
Administration
is
not
going
to
do
that.
So
this
is
something
that
I've
sat
through
six
years.
We've
all
in
this
community
attendees,
it's
different
Council
people,
the
Redstone
players,
have
played
the
same,
but
you
should
meet
with
us
and
we
can
help.
You
walk
you
through
what
we've
been
through
for
six
years
and
the
answers
that
we
had.
These
are
asking
questions.
R
We
already
have
the
answers
too:
they're
not
taking
tents
down,
because
the
city
created
a
policy,
it's
not
because
they
don't
want
to
take
them
downside
because
they
can't
take
them
down.
They
only
play
24
hours
and
I
can't
read
from
the
city
solicitor.
I
was
there
when
she
told
mayor
Kenny
who
was
surprised
by
it.
This
Administration
created
30-day
encampments
30-day
eviction
processes.
They
keep
everything
here
and
they
spread
it
out.
So
it
stays
here.
R
This
doesn't
happen
in
any
other
part
of
the
city,
but
yet
I
see
tents
pop
up,
but
they're
growing
within
hours.
They
don't
let
them
sleep
on
the
sidewalk.
They
need
treatment,
they
need
help.
The
other
thing
you
should
be
looking
at
is
the
money
that's
put
in
the
Kensington.
It's
rather
than
looking
at
70
million,
see
where
it
goes,
because
you
have
providers,
you
paid
a
monthly
fee,
they
don't
have
to
bother
to
fill
their
beds
with
users
because
they
get
paid
the
same
amount
of
money
every
month.
F
F
You
asked
what
we
would
do
if
we
had
that
kind
of
support,
so
I
would
like
to
respond
to
that
as
well.
If
I
may,
okay,
so
in
in
terms
of
how
do
you
get
people
into
treatment,
so
I
want
to
say
that
what
we
want?
What
we
all
want
is
for
people
to
be
off
the
street
in
treatment
and
the
goal
is
long-term
recovery.
F
F
It's
successful
for
some
of
the
people
that
made
it
into
treatment
and
into
housing
and
are
having
a
life
now
that
they
wouldn't
have
otherwise
had
we
talk
about
harm
reduction.
From
our
point
of
view,
harm
reduction
is
step
one.
It's
not
step
done,
because
it's
not
just
saving
a
life,
it's
having
a
life
that
you
live,
that's
a
quality
of
life
that
means
getting
into
treatment
getting
into
services,
but
there
are
problems
along
the
way
and
that's
what
we
are
focusing
on
now
intensively
are:
what
is
the
access
problem
to
getting
people
into
treatment?
F
Some,
yes,
some
say
no,
but
sometimes
they
say
no
and
then
they
say
no
and
then
they
say
yes,
so
you
never
stop
right.
You
keep
you
keep
going
and
then
you
look
at
what
is
it
that
is
blocking
really
rapid
access
of
late?
It's
been
those
wounds
that
have
blocked
people
from
being
able
to
get
into
reborn.
F
Access,
so
let
me
finish:
it
blocks
access
because
it's
such
horrific
wounds
that
it
needs
medical
care
before
they
can
get
onto
the
rehab
unit.
So
what
we
built
for
the
first
time
ever
the
state
is
very
interested.
The
feds
are
very
interested
because
nobody's
done
this
before
anywhere
is
that
we
created
in
a
rehab
program
that
comes
directly
connected
with
the
post-acute
services,
so
you
can
get
medical
treatment
and
begin
the
rehab
and
shift
over
it's
not
been
done
before
we
created
a
sustainable
model.
Now
the
question
is.
F
F
Sources
who
makes
the
regulations
the
regulations
are
usually
State
regulation,
but
you
can
work
through
them
and
find
a
way
through
and
we
did
the
problem
is
we
now
have
a
program,
that's
really
effective
and
we
need
quite
a
bit
more
of
it.
What
would
work
and
would
be
helpful
in
terms
of
the
question
to
counsel
is,
is
to
scale
up
what
is
effective,
where
we
are
seeing
things
that
are
working
and
when
I
say
working
I
mean
working.
F
What
would
work
for
the
community
and
work
for
the
individuals
who
are
on
the
street
is
to
get
off
the
street
that
works
for
everybody,
so
anything
that's
effective
doing.
That
has
to
be
scaled
up.
When
we
talk
about
recovery
houses,
where
people
can
go
and
there's
not
enough
of
them,
we
still
have
a
waiting
list
for
people
to
get
into
recovery
houses.
That
would
be
a
place
well.
F
F
We
do
not
have
a
waiting
list
for
treatment
beds.
The
question
you
ask
council,
member
Harrity
last
time
was
about
the
treatment
beds
and
we
do
not
have
a
waiting
list
to
get
into
treatment
beds.
It's
over
2
000
beds.
We
we
answered
I,
think
we
sent
you
that
response
it's
over
2
000
beds
in
our
system.
Today
we
have
56
beds
available.
We
do
have
access
into
our
treatment
system.
What
I'm
talking
about
is
the
recovery
housing
to
get
people
off
the
street.
F
We
need
low
barriers
so
that,
even
if
they're
not
completely
ready,
they
can
come
in
and
it
went
and
we
need
the
regular
recovery
houses
so
that
they
can
come
in.
But
here's
what
happens,
because
I
want
to
really
be
clear
that
we're
talking
about
system
change
here.
If
we
really
want
to
have
change
it's
not
about
each
individual
program,
it's
about
system
change
right.
What
happens
when
somebody
comes
out
of
a
recovery
house
and
they've
gone
through
treatment
and
they
go
back
out
and
they
don't
have
housing
and
they
don't
have
a
job.
D
Be
doing
yes
right,
yes,
part
of
the
Kensington
plan
it
is
to
accomplish,
and
housing
is
definitely
a
number
one
priority,
not
only
for
us
but
for
the
new
mayor.
I
know
that
I've
spoke
to
her
on
numerous
occasions.
She's
looking
at
thirty
thousand
I
think
it's
ambitious,
but
I'll
take
it
30
000,
affordable
housing
units.
That
would
be
phenomenal,
but
you
know
to
that
end.
I
I
have
read
some
studies
coming
out
of
Houston,
who
had
a
very
bad
problem
with
homelessness.
D
At
one
point,
almost
66
of
their
residents
were
homeless
because
of
mental
illness,
and
it
was
shocking
because
most
of
their
homelessness
wasn't
because
of
drug.
It
was
part
of
it,
but
it
wasn't
thing
it
was
partially
because
of
their
cost
of
living
and
how
much
housing
cost
there
and
by
by
installing
a
housing
first
method,
they
were
able
to
drastically
redrop
that.
So
what
what's
saying
is
if
we
think
about
it
on
a
line
well,
like
you
said,
once
they
get
out
of
treatment.
Where
are
they
going
to
go?
D
F
F
F
Well,
even
the
halfway
houses
can
is
treatment
right
because
that
those
are
those
Asam
levels,
you'll
made
here
level,
3.5
level,
3.7
level
4.0,
depending
on
what
the
needs
are
of
the
person.
So
that's
a
that's
an
actual
treatment.
That's
billable
through
you
know,
managed
care,
that's
a
treatment.
What
a
recovery
houses?
That's
not
treatment!
It's
not
billable!
The
city
covers
those
at
the
costs
for
some
of
them
right,
for
we
have
about
500
beds,
I
mean
it's
not
a
small,
it's
not
a
small
amount,
but
we
need
hundreds
more
right.
F
So
those
those
beds
are
not
treatment,
bad.
So
to
to
be
clear.
What
happens,
then?
Is
people
come
from
treatment
and
can
go
into
those
beds,
and
then
they
have
opportunity
to
to
get
further
along.
So
at
some,
some
more
long-term
recovery
not
go
back
out
on
the
street
and
then
back
out
on
the
street
and
back
out
on
the
street.
But
what
happens
when
they
get
through
that
process?
Is
there
needs
to
be
another
process?
We
have
to
pay
attention
to
the
impact
of
those
social
determinants:
poverty,
housing,
jobs.
F
D
F
Thank
you
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia.
We
we
do,
we
have
we
have
of
job
programs.
Specifically,
we
have
job
training.
All
of
this
is
integrated
into
that
Recovery
House
house
experience
and,
and
some
of
them
do
come
out
even
while
they're
in
that
kind
of
recovery
experience,
some
of
them
are
working.
Okay,.
I
S
A
T
Sorry,
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
give
my
testimony.
My
name
is
Sonia
Bingham
I'm
a
resident
here
at
Harrogate.
Many
of
you
know
me
I'm
a
balls
and
Strikes
type
of
girl,
I
call
it
like
I,
see
it
Noel
Liz
Jill
we've
been
working
together.
You
know,
you
continuously
tell
me
how
much
you
appreciate
my
advocacy
in
the
community,
but
you
don't
right.
The
Kensington
planned
meeting
happened
last
week.
Shannon
asked
why
I
wasn't
involved.
It's
because
I'm,
not
solution
based
oriented
right
have
Solutions.
We
have
Solutions
in
the
room.
T
The
problem
here
is
your
conflicted
commitment
right,
you're
conflicted
in
your
commitment,
because
what
has
happened
here
is
we,
as
Community
residents
now
have
to
have
a
stake
in
someone's
recovery
we
have
to
have
a
stake
and
whether
someone
has
a
home,
but
no
one
has
a
stake.
Whether
our
children
make
it
to
school
safely.
No
one
has
a
stake
in
how
they're
processing
all
of
the
things
that
are
happening
around
them,
but
we
have
to
be
concerned
with
people
who
do
not
have
the
right
to
occupy
the
spaces
that
they
are.
T
Those
are
ours
right,
I'm.
The
president
of
the
friends
of
Harold
Gate
Park
group,
what
we've
been
left
with
is
the
police
officers
to
help
us,
because
none
of
you
have
we've
been
talking
about
the
same
thing
over
and
over
and
over
again,
and
to
say
you
spent
70
million
dollars.
You
are
getting
a
return
on
your
investment
because
you
are
not
investing
in
US.
It
is
not
happening
not
at
the
scales
in
which
you're
investing
in
Needle,
Exchange
and
making
sure
resources
are
being
brought
here.
We
don't
have
the
same
commitment
from
you.
T
T
And
we
don't
need
70
million
dollars.
You
know
we
need
the
same
principle.
I
run
my
house,
you
you,
my
kids
told
me:
oh
I
want
to
smoke
pot.
You
can
smoke
all
the
pots
you
want,
but
you
won't
smoke
it
here
and
that's
what
we
do
in
the
park
and
that's
why
we
don't
have
the
influx
like
they
do
in
the
other
Parks,
because
you
can't
do
that
here.
That
behavior
is
unacceptable
and
I
don't
care.
T
Because
of
your
failure
and
we're
here
again
at
another
meeting
where
you
feign
these
same
answers,
you
try
to
color
it
with
a
new
tagline
on
a
new
initiative
and
it's
I
call
Bull.
It's
the
same
thing
and
all
you
have
to
do
is
say:
disrupt
the
behavior
they'll
get
tired
of.
We
have
to
move.
We
have
to
go,
that's
it
that
doesn't
cost
a
lot
of
money.
You
can't
be
here,
you
do
it
everywhere
else
in
the
city,
you
can't
be
here,
but
they
can
be
here.
You
need
to
ask
yourselves
why.
T
Why
are
you
telling
me
about
why
how
many
beds,
and
why
should
I,
have
to
care
I?
Don't
have
a
drug
problem?
Are
you
worried
about
my
bills
being
paid?
Are
you
worried
about
my
lights
on?
Are
you
trying
to
help
me
pay
my
daughter's
tuition,
because
these
are
my
real
life
problems?
Are
you
gonna
meet
me
where
I'm
at
nobody
wants
to
meet
us
where
we're
at,
but
we're
being
consistently
asked
to
meet
people
where
they're
at
without
care
for
our
livelihood
and
I'm
over
it
solution
based
do
your
job,
there's,
no
accountability!.
T
I
mean
like
I,
don't
understand
and
the
nerve
of
you
to
say
that
you're
having
a
community-based
new
group
meeting-
and
you
didn't
call
upon
the
content
experts
because
I'm
not
solution
based
I'm
Not,
Your
solution
based
how
dare
you
stifled
the
voices
of
the
community?
So
you
guys
can
purport
your
own
agenda
because
that's
what
you
did
you
took
my
voice
away
from
me
because
I
don't
agree
and
align
with
yours
with
your
Solutions.
T
How
dare
you
come
here
and
say
you're
concerned
when
you're
not
I've
been
to
every
meeting
I've
done
everything
you've
asked
us
to
do.
I've
stood
in
the
front
line,
I've
partnered
with
you.
Everything
you've
asked
us
to
do.
I
communicated
with
the
community
put
myself
In
Harm's
Way.
My
house
was
firebombed
someone
broke
into
my
garage.
You
have
you're
gonna,
not
invite
me
to
a
meeting
to
tell
you
about
the
concerns
of
the
community
that
I
represent.
T
T
A
U
U
U
U
U
U
A
V
I'm
sorry,
in
addition
to
Mr
listenby
I'm,
also
here
with
Curtis
crosston
from
our
community
engagement
unit
and
I'm.
Also
here
with
Jeff
hosnowski
Mr
hosnowski
is
an
assistant
district
attorney
in
our
homicide,
non-fatal
shooting
unit
at
40
years
of
age.
He
has
become
a
very
young
assistant
supervisor
in
that
unit.
V
V
I'll
come
back,
I
will
come
back
again,
I
will
say
more
I
was
here
last
time,
I'm
here
today,
I'll
come
back
again,
but
I
hope
you
will
give
Mr
hosnowski
an
opportunity
to
do
what
I've
asked
him
to
do,
which
is
talk
to
you
specifically
about
three
cases.
He
prosecuted
that
involve
violence
that
occurred
in
in
this
area
in
the
Kensington
area,
all
of
them
prosecuted
successfully,
because
that's
the
kind
of
work
that
he
does
I
don't
mind
coming
back.
D
District
attorney
there's
no
doubt
that
you're
Prosecuting
murders
and
you're
prosecuting
those
charges.
What
we'd
like
to
know
about
is
the
quality
of
life
issues
that
we're
facing;
there's
no
doubt
that
you're
you're
you're,
going
after
the
murders
you're
going
after
the
figures.
Nobody
has
a
doubt
about
that.
D
What
we
would
like
to
know
is
that
what
the
stuff
is
that
affects
us,
which
is
our
quality
of
life,
which
happens
to
be
partially
retail
theft,
drug
use,
as
my
chairman
drug
sales
for
sure,
and
as
our
chairman
said,
you
know,
people
shooting
up
he's
seen
it
just
coming
here
within
a
couple
of
minutes
of
being
here,
our
children
have
to
see
it
every
day.
Councilman.
D
District
attorney,
please
calm
down,
I'm,
not
going
after
you
I'm
asking
you
an
honest
question:
I'm
being
calm,
I
have
not
even
raised
my
voice,
yet
council
member.
So
what
I'm
asking
all
I'm
asking
is:
what
are
you
going
to
change
differently
to
deal
with
our
quality
of
life
issues
here
in
Kensington?
It's
not
I'm,
not
I'm,
just
asking
what
you
were
doing.
We've
had.
D
We've
had
civil
conversations
where
the
two
of
us
have
talked
and
and
have
come
to
agreements
on
things
all
I
want
to
know
is
what
now
that
you
have
some
numbers
and
facts
of
what's
going
to
happen
here
in
our
neighborhood
I'm,
not
trying
to
beat
up
anybody,
I'm,
not
trying
to
single
anybody
out
you've
seen
I
asked
the
police
commissioner
and
them
to
heart
questions
too.
All
we
want
to
know
is
what
are
you
going
to
change?
D
V
A
V
But
I
want
to
be
clear:
I
will
come
back.
I
will
answer
this
question
today
and
in
much
more
detail
later,
because
last
time
I
checked
you're
running
out
of
time.
Part
of
the
reason
I
was
hoping
hochnowski
could
do
his
talking,
so
he
doesn't
have
to
come
back
because
he's
got
homicide
cases
to
prosecute
and
it's
part
of
my
job
to.
D
V
I'm
sorry
too
I
do
want
you
to
know,
I.
Consider
your
friend
and
an
ally,
I
supported
you
in
this
last
election
we
have
had
civil
conversations
and
and
if
I
am
even
half
as
assertive
as
you
are,
sir,
it's
only
because
I
think
the
problem
is
is:
is
retail
theft,
it
is
drug
use,
it
is
drug
dealing,
but
it's
also
shootings
and
it's
also
homicides.
V
We
are
dealing
with
an
area
that
comprises
almost
50
percent
of
the
locations
that
have
the
most
shootings
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia,
and
it's
all
interconnected,
and
you
and
I
know
this:
the
illegal,
the
illegal
drug
trade,
the
poverty,
the
addiction
all
of
these
things
go
together
and
they're
part
of
the
reason
that
it
drives
the
violence.
If
what
you
are
saying
is
that
Mr
hoganowski's
testimony
is
not
necessary,
then
let
me
move
on
and
then
maybe
there'll
be
another
occasion
for
that.
V
Solutions
is
what
I
heard
and
those
Solutions
do
include
a
lot
of
the
issues
that
you're
talking
about.
So
here
is
a
solution
with
reference
to
retail
theft.
It's
something
we
have
discussed.
There
has
been
a
very
long
history
of
retail
theft,
prosecutions
being
about
individuals
and
the
truth
about
retail
theft.
Prosecutions
of
individuals
is
that
about
70
80,
90
percent
of
the
time
they
fail.
Why
do
they
fail
because
the
witnesses
don't
come
and
because
the
defendants
don't
come
a
lot?
Do
we
prosecute
it?
Yes,
we
do.
V
We
prosecute
it
with
summary
charges
that
are
subject
to
90
days
in
jail
or
other
periods
of
time
in
jail
and
when
we
have
prolific
offenders
or
people
who
keep
offending,
which
is
a
very
small
portion
of
the
ones
who
are
arrested.
We
are
perfectly
willing
to
go
after
felonies
to
go
after
misdemeanors
to
put
them
in
state
prison.
We
have
done
that.
V
We
are
willing
to
do
that,
but
there
is
a
new
idea,
because
the
ideas
in
this
area
have
failed
for
60
years.
There
is
a
new
idea:
it's
called
a
retail
theft
task
force
and
the
idea
is
that,
instead
of
going
for
all
the
minnows,
you
also
in
addition
to
that,
you
go
for
the
shark
and
what
is
the
shark?
The
shark
is
the
warehouse
that
is
collecting
the
stolen
goods.
V
D
Lot
of
a
lot
of
the
small
guy,
then
we
can
get
him
to
give
up
the
big
guy,
but
the
bottom
line
I
get
it
and
I
get
what
that's
trying
to
accomplish
I
get
that
I
I
respectful
of
it.
But
what
I'm
trying
to
say
to
you
is
those
little
guys
that
you're
considering
little
guys
it's
the
reason
we
have
no
stores
I
mean:
where
would
you
like
my
neighbors
to
buy
their
groceries
or
their
prescriptions.
V
Well,
what
I
would
like
is
something
that
works
and
what
I
know
does
not
work
from
nearly
40
years
in
criminal
justice
is
ignoring
the
big
guys.
Yes,
we
do
need
to
pursue
the
little
guys
in
ways
that
are
appropriate.
Yes,
we
do
that
when
there
is
an
arrest
on
a
summary
we
pursue
it
and
those
people
are
subject
to
up
to
90
days
in
jail
when
there
is
an
arrest
for
a
prolific
offender
we
pursue
it.
We
put
them
in
state
prison.
We're
willing
to
do
that.
V
V
So
this
was
a
part
of
my
budget
request
and
I
want
to
tell
you
I'm,
very
grateful
for
what
council
did
in
terms
of
supporting
our
new
carjacking
unit
as
you
as
I'm
sure
you
know,
carjacking
numbers
are
getting
better
and
in
supporting
our
getting
gun
violence
prosecutors
like
Jeff
hodginowski
out
in
the
community,
which
is
where
he
is
now
I'm-
very
grateful
for
that
support.
But
there
are
other
areas
that
don't
cost
that
much,
because
that
could
make
a
really
big
difference.
V
So
one
of
those
areas
is
to,
in
addition
to
going
after
the
little
guys,
trying
to
flip
the
little
guys
trying
to
get
the
info
off.
The
little
guys
is
to
go
after
the
people
who
are
really
profiting
from
it,
because
it's
no
fun
to
steal
anymore.
If
you
can't
get
any
money
off
the
stuff
that
you
stole
and
if
you
are
addicted
to
drugs
and
many
of
them
are,
you
have
to
be
focused
on
getting
that
money.
V
So
if
you
can
take
away
the
fences,
in
other
words
the
people
who
receive
the
stolen
goods
and
then
resell
them
for
millions
of
dollars,
you
have
taken
a
big
dent
out
of
the
motivation
and
the
energy
that
will
go
into
that
kind
of
activity
by
people
who
are
addicted
to
drugs.
So
that
is
a
new
idea.
It's
something
that
has
never
been
done
in
Kensington.
It's
something
we
want
to
do
and
all
I
would
ask
from
you
is
to
consider
at
the
mid-year.
V
If
we
come
to
you
for
funds,
please
consider
and
a
reasonable
amount.
Please
consider
supporting
a
retail
theft
task
force
that
will
not
just
focus
on
the
minnows,
but
will
also
go
for
the
sharks.
When
we
talk
about
drugs,
it's
a
similar
situation.
Our
this
office
vigorously
pursues
and
prosecutes
people
for
drug
dealing.
Okay,
we
do
what
we
can
with
that,
but
the
true
history
of
how
there
has
been
enforcement
around
drugs
in
Kensington
has
been
its
mostly
grab-and-go.
V
It's
mostly
getting
young
people
on
the
corner
who,
after
they're
arrested,
are
replaced
within
24
hours
by
another
young
person
on
the
corners
and
the
people,
making
the
real
money,
the
family
that
has
on
that
block
for
two
decades
and
rents
out
pieces
of
that
block
to
other
drug
dealers.
Those
people
for
the
most
part
get
away
with
it,
except
when
you
engage
in
serious
enforcement
against
that
family,
so
that
I
will
give
you
an
example
of
a
success
that
we've
had
a
success.
V
I
would
like
to
do
more
and
more
in
Kensington
and
elsewhere,
which
was
taking
down
drug
activity
at
KIPP
and
Cambria.
This
was
a
couple
of
years
ago.
It
was
a
bus
where
we
used
wiretaps
so
we're
listening
to
people
who
are
professional
drugs
dealers
doing
the
drug
dealing.
This
is
not
just
watching
three
kids
on
the
corner
sell
three
packages
on
a
corner.
This
is
getting
the
real
owners
of
the
operation,
the
arrest
involved
over
60
people.
They
were
all
professional
drug
dealers
to
the
best
of
my
recollection.
V
Every
single
one
of
them
was
convicted
and
the
drug
activity
in
that
area,
which
was
multi-generational
ownership
by
a
particular
family,
took
down
two
generations
and
it
it
brought
a
lot
of
improvement
to
that
area
for
a
very,
very
long
time
all
I
need,
for
that
is
wiretaps.
Okay,
an
issue
I've
been
raising
now
for
four
years
within
city
government,
not
necessarily
with
all
of
you,
but
with
some
of
you.
What
I
need
is
wiretaps.
That's
a
little
bit
more
money
for
people
who
listen
to
the
wires
all
day.
V
It's
a
little
money
to
make
sure
some
of
them
speak
the
appropriate
language
that
might
be
involved.
It's
a
little
bit
more
equipment,
but
this
is
not
an
incredibly
expensive
thing
and
it
is
not
only
good
for
dealing
with
Big
Time
drug
dealers.
It's
really
good
for
dealing
with
people
who
are
shooting
people.
V
That
is
something
that
we
ought
to
be
able
to
do,
and
it's
not
a
terribly
expensive
thing,
and
that
is
different.
That's
not
how
it's
been
done
now
in
terms
of
Big
Time
drug
dealing.
I
can
tell
you
you
know
we
were
hearing
earlier
about
a
sweep
where
seventy
seven
thousand
dollars
were
obtained
and
I
think
I
heard
about
a
million
dollars
worth
of
drugs
in
street
value.
V
To
give
you
an
example
of
power
of
using
wiretaps,
my
office
for
two
and
a
half
years
pursued
some
drug
dealing
that
went
all
the
way
back
to
the
Sinaloa
cartel
in
Mexico,
we
eventually
were
able
to
involve
DEA
some
of
the
foreign
deas.
There
were
moments
in
that
investigation
when
a
tractor
trailer
was
at
the
side
of
the
road
with
a
million
dollars.
Cash
wrapped
in
cellophane
being
pulled
out
of
the
cab
and
hundreds
of
kilos
of
incredibly
dangerous
drugs
were
being
taken
at
a
time.
V
That
case
was
so
huge
that,
even
though
it
was
our
investigation,
we
eventually
allowed
the
feds
to
prosecute
it,
because
it
was
that
big.
We
can
do
big
things
and
we
can
do
big
things
in
terms
of
enforcement
and
we
can
do
those
big
things
for
not
a
whole
lot
of
money.
All
we
have
to
do
is
admit
that
not
everything
has
worked
in
the
last
60
years
in
Kensington.
V
If
we're
willing
to
do
things
a
little
bit
differently-
retail
theft,
Task
Force,
if
we're
willing
to
use
wiretaps
in
ways
to
try
to
get
at
the
drug
dealing
but
also
get
at
the
shootings
that
are
going
on,
we
can
make
a
big
difference
in
terms
of
some
other
quality
of
life
issues.
We
have
an
elder
Justice
unit
that
didn't
used
to
exist,
which
is
there
to
protect
seniors
from
all
the
different
kinds
of
frauds
that
are
brought
down
on
them.
We
could
use
a
little
help
with
that.
V
We
have
tremendous
lawyers
working
on
house
theft
and
deed
theft,
which
is
rampant
in
this
city.
It's
an
absolute
plague
in
this
city.
The
only
limitation
I
have
is,
if
I
have.
If
I
you
know,
if
I
have
only
a
couple
detectives
and
I
have
one
prosecutor,
how
many
houses
can
I
do.
This
is
a
this
is
a
community.
V
This
is
a
city
famous
for
home
ownership
and
yet
we're
allowing
people
to
steal
houses
and
we're
allowing
to
them
it
to
them
to
do
it
in
sweeping
ways
we
have
had
successful
prosecutions,
but
we
need
a
little
bit.
The
support
there
and
then,
of
course
this
brings
us
to
some
other
issues.
Another
thing
we
can
do
along
the
lines
of
the
issues
that
affect
this
community
is
we
can
work
with
SEPTA.
V
Just
this
morning,
I
was
sitting
in
a
room
with
Chief
Lawson
and
with
Leslie
Richards,
who
is
the
chief
of
SEPTA
among
other
people
from
her
team.
Septa
is
essential
to
this
community
and
it
needs
our
support.
We
have
already
discussed
ways
that
we
can
support.
Septa
and
frankly,
SEPTA
does
tremendous
service
to
this
community.
V
So
our
forensics
experts
can
go
pull
your
hand
print
and
those
are
real
examples,
I'm
not
making
that
stuff
up.
So
another
thing
that
we
can
do
is
to
see
what
we
can
do
to
work
with
SEPTA,
but
at
the
root
of
an
awful
lot
of
these
issues,
I
will
say,
in
addition
to
the
whole
prevention
side
and
I,
know
you're
short
on
time.
I
will
come
back
I'm.
V
I
was
under
the
impression
this
was
ending
soon,
but
if
not
I'll
stay
here
till
midnight-
and
we
can
do
that-
you
know
I
I
do
want
to
say
this,
though
I
think
it's
really
important
to
understand
that
what
happens
in
terms
of
gun
violence
affects
Kensington
profoundly
of
the
57
blocks
that
the
Philadelphia
Inquirer
described.
We
mapped
them.
28
of
them
were
right
in
and
around
Kensington
half
of
them
were
right
in
and
around
Kensington.
V
So
when
we
talk
about
gun
violence,
we
are
talking
about
Kensington
and
when
we
talk
about
Kensington,
we
are
talking
about
gun
violence
and
despite
the
fact
that
the
numbers
are
going
in
a
better
Direction
in
the
middle
of
this
terrible
crisis
that
is
affecting
so
many
people
so
adversely
there
is
an
enormous
thing
that
can
be
done.
That
frankly,
doesn't
cost
all
that
much
money.
That
would
make
a
huge
difference,
and
that
is
this.
We
need
forensics.
We
have
an
excellent
chief
of
forensics,
who
happens
to
be
in
a
room.
V
Dr
Garvey
he's
working
with
too
little.
He
is
working
with
too
little.
It
is
affecting
our
ability
to
put
consequences
on
crimes.
Let
me
give
you
just
one
example:
in
order
for
us
to
prove
our
cases
that
involve
shootings
and
that
involve
gun
possession,
we
need
Philadelphia,
Police
Department
Firearms
examiners
to
test
those
guns
to
examine
those
guns
to
measure
those
guns.
Not
that
long
ago
there
were
22.
V
V
Firearms
examiners
are
working
as
hard
as
they
can,
but
five
people
can't
do
the
work
of
22.,
so
we
are
going
to
lose
those
cases
and
we're
going
to
lose
those
cases,
because
we
cannot
produce
the
evidence
that
we
need,
or
a
judge
is
going
to
throw
it
out
because
we
didn't
have
it
now.
I
understand:
that's
not
the
sexiest
political
thing
to
talk
about
that.
We
need
more
Firearms
examiners
or
we
need
more
people
to
take
fingerprints.
V
It
might
not
be
the
sexiest
thing
to
talk
about
how
we
got
a
47,
000
square
foot
lab
and
we
need
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
square
feet.
But
what
that
actually
means
is
we
solve
a
lot
more
crimes?
We
solve
a
lot
more
crimes
in
Kensington.
We
have
cases
that
are
a
lot
stronger
when
people
get
caught
and
more
of
them
will
get
caught
more
of
them
going
to
plead
guilty
because
they
know
they
got
no
shot
at
trial.
The
trials
will
come
more
quickly.
V
The
convictions
will
come
more
quickly
and
we
will
also
have
more
certainty
that
we
got
the
right
people
that
the
guilty
people
got
caught
and
the
innocent
people
didn't.
That
is
absolutely
worth
every
penny,
and
it's
not
that
many
pennies
we
just
heard
recently
of
an
expenditure
of
250
million
dollars
for
police
overtime,
I'm
just
going
to
assume
that
was
all
necessary.
Well,
the
price
tag
for
a
complete,
state-of-the-art
forensics
lab
is
at
most
150
million,
and
if
you
use
an
old
building
at
retrofit,
it
it's
more
like
a
hundred
million.
L
L
So
what
are
we
doing?
Collectively
right,
your
team
and
their
team?
We're
not
even
talking
about
their
overtime.
Some
of
the
overtime
is
probably
Warren
it
just
based
upon
the
levels
of
gun
box
that
we
actually
sing,
but
we're
not
pointing
things.
We're
talking
about
getting
inside
the
room
because
you
said
Solutions
right
right,
not
with
their
getting
versus
what
you're
getting
right.
L
But
what
are
we
doing
collectively
around
this
issue
to
make
sure
the
detectors
are
doing
their
side,
the
police
in
the
door
on
their
side
and
the
DA's
are
saying
this
is
good
evidence.
So
when
you
Ada's
do
go
up
and
fight
a
case,
I
mean
because
it's
kind
of
embarrassing
to
say
that
they're
losing
basic
but
not
having
an
investment.
L
V
Happy
to
answer
that
question
council,
member
and
I
have
truly
enjoyed
working
with
you
in
the
past,
especially
along
with
council
member
Jones,
with
100
shooter
report
and
with
Public
Safety
efforts
on
the
part
of
city
council.
So
the
the
real
answer
is
that
we
work
hard
and
closely
all
the
time
and
that's
how
the
DA's
office
gets
close
to
a
90
percent
conviction
rate
for
shootings
and
for
homicides.
That's
reality,
I
understand
that
you
may
not
have
time
for
Mr
hosnowski.
He
would
have.
V
He
would
have
described
to
you
three
convictions
that
he's
obtained
in
those
serious
cases
in
in
this
area.
Unlike
other
cases
where
the
police
do
their
work,
and
then
we
do
ours.
When
it
comes
to
homicides,
the
coordination
is
much
closer
and
when
it
comes
to
some,
not
all
of
the
shooting
cases,
the
ones
that
are,
for
example,
done
by
our
gun,
violence
task
force,
which
does
use
more
forensics,
which
does
use
more
phone
technology
when
it
comes
to
that
kind
of
work.
V
That's
the
kind
of
work
that
is
actually
disrupting
shooting
groups
for
good
O2
to
4
is
getting
close
to
oh
to
the
no
more,
and
that
is
specifically
the
result
of
having
a
tool
kit,
a
toolkit.
We
fought
for
to
be
able
to
crack
phones
to
be
able
to
download
phones
and
be
able
to
get
at
these
forensics,
so
we
have
never
stopped
working.
The
police
department
has
never
stopped
working
I'll.
Just
give
you
an
example
of
this
kind
of
coordination,
so
it
used
to
be
our
homicide.
Prosecutors
were
separate
from
our
shooting
prosecutors.
V
I
made
a
decision
to
put
them
together
for
a
lot
of
reasons,
one
of
the
reasons
being
the
sharing
of
information,
because
people
who
shoot
are
sometimes
the
same
people
who
shoot
and
kill
right.
We
did
that
and
we
saw
some
real
positive
results
in
terms
of
our
results.
Well,
the
police
department,
not
too
long
after
that,
maybe
a
year
after
that
came
up
for
the
first
time
with
a
shooting
investigation
Group,
which
was
a
group
that
was
going
to
work
very
specifically
on
shootings.
V
We
weren't
going
to
all
over
the
city
doing
what
they
could
do
on
shootings,
we're
going
to
focus
it
in
one
place
and-
and
they
also
of
course,
have
invested
in
more
detectives
for
homicides,
which
is
wonderful,
that's
exactly
what
they
should
do
and
just
so
we're
clear,
I
didn't
say
they
shouldn't
have
their
overtime.
God
knows
these
homicide
detectors.
Yeah
I
got
you
well,
no
I
I
mean
that's
all
right,
okay,
well,
that
that
is
definitely
not
how.
A
A
A
Let's
talk
about
the
minnows
for
a
minute,
because
what
the
people
in
this
audience
want
to
talk
about
is
walking
down
the
Avenue
and
not
being
able
to
go
to
a
store
to
get
bread,
butter
and
cheese,
because
the
stores
close
they
want
to
talk
about
the
fact
that
they
have
to
navigate
in
between
people
shooting
up
people
selling
note
and
how
that
depresses
their
lives.
So
I
got
what
you're
saying
about
the
crime
lab
me
and
my
brother
Kenyatta.
We
working
on
that
money,
both
from
the
state
and
local.
A
V
So
here
you
know
I'm
going
to
give
you
the
most
honest
answer:
I
can
like
I
always
do
and
I
know
not
everybody's
going
to
love
it,
but
I'm
going
to
do
it.
The
reason
we
don't
have
Solutions
right
now
and
we
don't
have
solutions
for
60
years-
is
because
for
60
years
we've
been
acting
like
it's
a
one-year
problem.
It's
not
a
one-year
problem.
Okay,.
A
G
V
V
With
it,
you
know,
the
reality
is
most
of
the
people
sitting
up
on
the
stage
and
I
say
this
respectfully
are
younger
than
this
problem
is.
This
problem
goes
back
to
the
1960s
and
that
its
roots,
the
problem,
has
been.
The
only
kind
of
investment
that
is
made
around
here
is
in
locking
people
up.
It's
not
actually
investing
in
Opportunity.
It's
not
investing
in
economics.
It's
not
allowing
people
who
do
not
vote
at
high
rates
to
have
power.
V
So
let
me
give
you
an
example
of
what
taking
a
couple
years
looks
like.
There
is
another
city
where
they
had
5
000
heroin
users
living
on
the
street
5
000
heroin
units
living
on
the
street
20
years
ago.
They
now
have
one
thousand,
they
have
an
80
percent
reduction
and
yes,
I
know
everybody
would
prefer
that
there
was
nobody
on
the
street,
but
I.
Think
almost
everybody
in
this
room
would
tell
you
right
now.
If
we
could
reduce
the
on-street
drug-addicted
population
by
80
percent,
that
would
definitely
be
a
step
in
the
right
direction.
V
It
would
definitely
be
Improvement.
Well,
that
plan
didn't
come
from
government.
That
plan
came
from
a
doctor,
it
did
not
come
from.
Judges
did
not
come
from.
Lawyers
did
not
come
with
from
police,
although
police
were
involved
in
carrying
it
out.
That
came
from
a
doctor.
There
are
things
that
have
worked
and
simply
repeating
in
Kensington
what
has
not
worked
for
60
years
isn't
all
of
a
sudden
going
to
work
now
it
might
be
good
politics,
but
it
certainly
is
not
good
policy
and
is
not
going
to
improve
the
lives
of
people
and
Kensington.
V
V
They
were
older,
they
were
older
and
the
reason
they
were
older
is
because
you
don't
have
young
heroin
users
in
that
City
and
a
lot
of
the
older
heroin
users
you
had
were
actually
people
who've
been
off
the
stuff
for
seven
or
eight
years,
and
they
were
relapsing.
Well,
I
wish
I
could
say
that
about
Kensington
and
I
wish.
I
could
say
that
about
Philadelphia,
but
when
I
look
around
and
I
see
people
addicted
to
drugs.
What
I
see
is
an
approach
to
this.
That,
unfortunately,
has
not
served.
A
So,
let's
I'm
gonna
yield
the
mic
to
my
colleagues
because
they
are
chomping
at
the
bit
and
this
is
not
adversarial.
This
is
to
try
to
get
to
what
what
we
should
expect
and
so
we're
going
to
work
on
your
whales,
and
we
are
working
on
your
wells,
we're
looking
under
couches
and
pillows
to
make
sure
you
have
that
crime
lab,
because
we
agree
that
the
closure
rate
needs
to
be
addressed
on
a
number
of
crimes.
A
But
what
we're
here
to
talk
about
today
is
something
more
minnow
something
more
minute,
and
we
may
not
agree
that.
That
is
the
direct
approach
that
has
long-term
success.
But
what
we're
seeing
right
now
is
at
a
Tipping
Point,
where
it
is
unbearable.
I
heard
a
lady
talk
about
that.
She
can't
take
it
anymore
and
that
this
problem
isn't
paying
her
bills
and
the
alternative
candies.
Should
we
just
concede
the
neighborhood
and
move
out,
but
none
of
us
are
here
to
do
that.
C
V
Understand
it's
about
half
so
that
you
understand
there
is
no
57
blocks
initiative.
There
is
none
and
it
is
not
my
office.
What
has
been
going
on
is
that
the
Philadelphia
Inquirer
put
out
an
article.
A
lot
of
people
were
fascinated
by
it.
The
fact
there
are
certain
locations
where,
even
after
you
lock
people
up
you're
having
more
shootings
two
years
later
and
then
another
shooting
a
year
later.
C
C
What's
your
policy
on
retail
theft,
how
do
we
change
what
that
policy
is?
That
is
obviously
not
working,
because
every
day
we
lose
a
different
store.
If
you
drive
up
and
down
Kensington
Avenue,
you
know-
or
you
can
see,
that
these
are
owner
operators.
These
are
people
that
invest
have
invested
all
of
their
life
savings
in
this
particular
Corridor
and
can't
get
their
businesses
to
thrive
because
of
what
is
happening
here.
So
can
you
tell
me
what
your
policy
is?
C
How
many
arrests
in
this
target
area
that
you
mentioned,
how
many
arrests
have
been
made
here?
How
do
you
work
with
the
police
Department
to
be
able
to
address
not
just
the
repeat
retail
theft
person,
but
the
person
who
shows
up
and
thinks
that
in
this
particular
neighborhood?
This
is
acceptable.
Well,.
V
All
right,
let
me
just
say,
57
blocks-
is
a
totally
different
concept.
It
is
not
a
program,
it
is
a
good
idea
the
community
had
and
we
tried
to
support
them
in
that,
and
perhaps
it'll
get
some
legs
at
some
point.
It
actually
is
not
too
different
than
some
of
the
ideas
that
are
in
the
Kensington
plan.
But
let's
put
that
to
the
side,
your
question
was:
what's
our
policy
on
retail
theft
policy
on
retail
theft
is
to
prosecute
every
retail
theft.
That
is
not
otherwise.
V
In
a
diversion
program,
the
police
have
a
diversion
program
which
is
pad.
We
have
some
of
them,
but
in
general,
if
the
police
bring
us
a
case,
everyone
is
charged.
Most
of
them
will
be
charged
with
a
summary
offense,
an
offense
that
is
punishable
by
a
sentence
of
up
to
90
days.
When
we
know
that
people
are
involved
in
other
serious
criminal
activity,
we
will
charge
them
at
higher
levels.
V
If
they're
stealing
things
of
high
value,
we
will
charge
them
at
higher
levels
and
if
the
police
inform
us
that
someone
is
a
prolific
offender
or
if
we
can
see
that
on
the
criminal
record,
we
will
charge
them
at
higher
level.
Yes,
I
would
like
to
tell
you
that
solves
all
the
problems,
but
it
never
has
it
never
will,
and
it
doesn't
now
here's
the
reality
we,
but
we
had
one
guy
who
had
something
like
50
I
think
was
maybe
56
retail
theft
cases
we
prosecuted
him
as
a
felony.
We
put
him
in
state
prison.
V
He
completed
his
State
sentence.
I
think
he
did
all
two
years
on
that
thing
and
he
then
came
out
and
did
it
again.
Okay,
that's
the
reality.
We
are
selective
about
using
higher
levels
to
prosecute,
but
we
use
it
where
appropriate,
and
it's
not
going
to
be
a
solution
for
someone
who
has
acute
I,
just
told
you.
We
put
him
in
jail
for
two
years
and
then
he
came
out
and
did
it
again
so
the
in
terms
of
what
what
you
asked
me.
V
We
prosecute
all
of
them,
but
we
use
a
level
of
judgment
about
whether
it
is
a
first
offender
or
to
somebody
who's,
stealing
something
of
high
value
or
someone
who's
doing
a
lot
of
thefts
now,
as
I
said,
I
believe
there's
another
part
of
this.
That's
been
ignored
for
my
entire
career
since
1987,
which
is
going
after
the
fences
who
are
making
all
the
money
and
making
more
money
than
ever,
because
the
Internet
is
just
a
wonderful
way
to
to
clean,
stolen
goods,
and
I
would
like
to
be
able
to
do
that
as
well.
J
V
Charged
everybody
that
the
police
have
sent
us
where
there's
probable
cause,
probably
99
of
those
cases,
have
probable
cause.
We
charged
them
with
summary,
which
is
a
crime
and
can
put
you
in
jail
for
up
to
90
days
or
a
misdemeanor
or
with
a
felony
which
is
the
highest
level
of
crimes.
It
depends
on
the
situation.
There's
a
very
small
number.
The
data
is
clear:
there's
a
very
small
number
who
are
the
prolific
offenders
and
they
deserve
to
be
charged
at
high
levels.
There.
C
C
This,
isn't
that
just
about
one
specific
group
of
people
and
I
I
can't
figure
out
I
can't
get
an
answer
from
anybody,
because
you
ask
one
group
of
folks
how
many-
how
many
arrests
are
happening
here
in
this
particular
footprint.
I
can't
get
an
answer.
How
many
people
have
been
charged?
How
many
people
have
actually
gone
to
jail
and
I
can't
ever
get
that.
V
Response
I
think
I
am
answering
you
respectfully
council
member
I've
I
have
made
clear
many
times
and
frankly,
if
someone
asked
me
for
this,
data
I
would
have
brought
it,
but
I
made
clear
many
times
that
our
rate
of
charging
the
cases
with
few
exceptions
that
are
brought
To
Us
by
the
police
department
is
extremely
high.
It
is
much
higher
than
other
jurisdictions.
We
actually
charge
gun
possession
cases
at
a
higher
rate
than
my
predecessor,
it's
about
98
99,
and
when
we
don't
charge
it
it's
only
because
no
it's
not
a
lie.
V
That's
actually
the
truth.
When
we
don't
do
it,
it's
only
because
there's
a
flaw
in
the
case
there's
not
probable,
cause
or
there's
a
clearly
illegal
search
or
something
that's
going
to
nullify.
We
charge
all
of
the
retail
theft
cases
that
are
sent
to
us
where
there's
probable
cause,
there's
not
an
obvious
basis
for
suppression.
It's
about
99.
V
C
Can
you
tell
me
what
you
all
are
doing
together
to
be
able
to
rectify
that
issue
right
if
you
are
seeing
that
cases
are
being
brought
in
front
of
your
Adas,
and
there
is
certain
type
of
information
that
is
not
that
is
not
brought
to
you
appropriately,
or
that
is
missing.
What
are
you
all
doing
to
work
together
to
actually
fix
that,
so
that
it
doesn't
continuously
happen
what's
happening?
Are
you
guys
talking?
Are
you
meeting
so.
A
V
So
I
would
be
happy
to
answer
that
we
have
arguably
the
best
data
lab
in
the
United
States
for
DA's
office,
but
I
can't
answer
it
in
my
head.
I
have
to
be
informed
of
that
in
advance.
I'll
be
happy
to
get
you
those
numbers
later.
If
you
would
like
to
have
them,
but
I
I
will
give
you
in
general.
What
I
think
they're
going
to
show
but
I
think
they're
going
to
show
is
that
we
charge
essentially
every
retail
the
FKS,
either
as
a
summary,
a
misdemeanor
or
a
felony.
V
V
Okay,
as
for
the
conviction
rate,
the
truth
about
this
since
1987
is
that
most
of
these
cases
involve
a
loss,
prevention
officer,
someone
who
is
an
eyewitness
and
most
of
the
time
they
don't
show
up
or
that
you
have
owners
and
most
who
need
to
come
in
to
say
that
this
was
owned
by
the
store
or
the
loss
prevention
officer
will
say
it
was
owned
by
the
store
and
it
was
taken
by
Joe
and
I
caught
Joe
at
the
door.
A
lot
of
times
these
businesses,
big
or
small,
don't
produce
the
witness
so.
A
C
So
I'm
not
being
Mr
chairman
I'd,
like
to
for
the
record
I'd
like
to
I'd
like
to
make
sure
that
we
recognize
that
we've
asked
this
question
in
budget
hearings.
We
asked
this
question
the
last
time
we
were
here
and
we
are
still
at
the
same
place,
and
so
when,
when
do
we
get
the
answers
that
we
need?
If.
V
V
If
I
had
a
communication
24
hours
ago,
you'd
have
it
right
now.
That's
all
you
need
to
do
I'd
be
happy
to
do
that
and
I
say
that,
respectfully
to
you,
if
you
tell
me
I
want
these
numbers.
I
can
run
Kensington
specific
numbers
as
well.
I
have
done
this
for
many
council
members.
A
lot
of
you
know
that
I've
put
packets
in
your.
A
Think
going
after
the
big
Warehouse
full
of
tide
is
is
is
where
we
want
to
go.
I
want
I
want
them
dealt
with.
I
want
to
cut
the
head
of
the
snake
off,
however,
I
met
a
guy
outside
who
really
is
contemplating
closing
his
door
because
he
just
routinely
gets
robbed
and
not
with
a
gun
just
by
the
mere
fact
that
somebody
comes
and
shops
for
the
people
down
at
the
tavern.
We
we
have
to
address
it
well,.
C
And
I
also
want
I
also
want
to
make
a
note
that
that
there's
always
conversation
about
certain
things
not
getting
into
certain
people's
hands
appropriately
right
or
they're,
incomplete
or
there's
something
missing.
We've
talked
about
Recruitment
and
Retention
right
earlier
today,
and
so
I
think
that
what
I
also
want
us
to
think
about
is
do
we
need
to
have
your
office
come
to
the
training
center,
where
you
all
are
talking
to
these
new
recruits
about.
C
V
So
let
me
just
say
this
by
either
I
or
my
designee,
but
I
think
about
85
percent
of
the
time.
I
have
spoken
to
every
new
class
of
police
cadets
at
the
invitation
of
usually
the
guardian
civic
league,
about
how
to
stay
out
of
trouble.
How
to
do
the
right
thing?
How
not
to
how
not
to
jeopardize
their
career
I've
done
that
myself
and
I
think
that's
really
important.
V
We
would
be
happy
to
do
any
additional
trainings
that
the
Philadelphia
Police
Department
would
like
us
to
do,
and
I
can
think
of
it
of
an
area
where
we
might
be
of
help.
This
is
no
criticism
at
all
to
the
police
department,
but
we
want
to
help
and
that
area
has
to
do
with
some
of
the
law
that
has
changed
on
on
searching
cars
and
some
of
the
law
that
has
changed
on
searching
a
person
for
a
gun.
Maybe
that's
somewhere,
where
we
could
be
of
assistance.
V
V
We
do
that
kind
of
stuff
all
the
time,
but
in
terms
of
speaking
at
roll
calls
or
speaking
to
new
Cadets
who
are
in
the
academy,
we
would
be
happy
to
do
any
additional
trainings
that
the
commissioner
thought
was
appropriate.
I,
don't
think
it's
my
job
to
tell
her
what
to
do
and
I
I
know
that
she
doesn't
think
it's
her
job
to
tell
me
what
to
do,
but
we
are
very
open
to
any
requests.
The
commissioner
may
have
to
do
additional
trainings
at
their
at
their
suggestion.
What.
C
Question
is
we
have
a
mini
station
that
is
just
dedicated
to
Kensington.
What
are
the
possibilities
of
you
assigning
an
ADA
or
Adas
to
that
particular
station
to
assist
officers
in
in
when
they're
making
arrests
when
they
have
questions
when
they
are
on
the
ground
and
are
trying
to
figure
out
whether
they're
doing
things
appropriately?
Is
that
something
that
we
could
look
at
or
that
we
would
consider.
V
Well,
yes,
we
would
consider
it.
You
know
there
was
a
time
before
the
pandemic,
when
we
did
something
a
little
different.
It
was
copied
from
a
model
in
Chicago
that
had
proven
effective,
and
that
was
that
we
had
some
of
our
homicide
Adas,
some
of
our
shooting
Adas,
who
were
assigned
to
certain
areas
where
there
were
high
levels
of
gun,
violence
to
assist
detectives
Philly.
V
Does
things
a
little
differently
than
Chicago
detectives
at
that
time
were
the
ones
we
wanted
to
work
with,
because
we
thought
we
might
be
of
use
to
them
in
terms
of
drafting
an
Affidavit
of
probable
cause
for
an
arrest
warrant
or
a
search
warrant.
Things
like
that
if
we
are
funded
for
it,
we
are
entirely
open
to
that.
We
are
not
currently
funded
for
that
and
we
would
never
just
break
in.
V
We
need
an
invitation
from
our
friends
at
the
police
department,
but
we
would
certainly
be
open
to
that
and
we
have,
in
the
past,
had
people
who
were
signed
either
to
the
divot,
which
of
course
is
is
in
some
ways
the
Intelligence
Center
for
the
police
department.
We
had
a
permanent
seat
there
for
a
while,
or
we
have
had
people
who
are
working
directly
with
detectives
on
the
more
serious
cases
now.
Obviously,
a
mini
station
will
have
a
variety
of
cases,
they're,
not
all
going
to
be
the
most
serious
cases,
but
we're
open
to
it.
V
I
mean
my
answer
is:
if
you
fund
it
and
if
the
PPD
invites
me
because
I'm
not
going
to
invade
their
Lane,
then
we're
happy
to
do
that.
I
think
that
the
truth
is
people
do
not
understand
how
closely
the
PPD
and
the
DA's
office
work
all
the
time
when
it
comes
to
these
major
drug
investigations
when
it
comes
to
homicide
investigations,
even
at
the
charging
phase,
what
happens
is
if
we
get
a
case
and
we
think
something
more
is
needed.
We
don't
just
say
no,
we
say
to
them
me.
Please
go
get
me
this.
V
Please
take
this
person
caught
in
the
stolen
car.
Please
take
their
photograph
back
to
the
person
who
got
carjacked
two
days
ago
and
let's
see
if
they
will
identify
this
person
as
being
the
carjacker
right.
That
kind
of
coordination
goes
on
all
the
time.
It's
not
public,
but
it
goes
on
all
the
time
and
in
general,
I
have
to
tell
you
I
think
that
a
lot
of
the
detectives
do
an
amazing
job
and
I
think
the
PPD
is
very
responsive
when
we
tell
them
that
there's
something
that
we
don't
have.
D
I'm
sorry
I
was,
and
I
actually
don't
even
have
a
a
question.
I
just
have
a
request
when
you're
putting
those
numbers
together
for
us.
If
you
could,
please
give
us
also
numbers
on
how
many
cases
are
dismissed
because
of
either
Ada,
not
prepared
officer
not
showing
up
Witnesses,
not
showing
up
whatever
it.
Is
it's
not
to
point
out
who's?
D
V
H
Thank
you,
Mr,
chair
I
know
that
we
are
we're
having
a
discussion
about
the
appropriate
ways
to
enforce,
as
it
relates
to
shoplifting,
so
that
we
can
stop
the
harm.
That's
happened
in
the
small
businesses
and
that's
obviously
a
very
important
discussion
that
needs
to
be
resolved,
but
I
also
wanted
to
bring
in
the
Commerce
Department
to
talk
about
other
ways
that
we
may
be
able
to
support
these
businesses
during
covid,
for
example,
which
was
which
was
a
crisis
and
I.
Consider
this
to
be
a
crisis.
H
We
actually
got
money
to
support
small
businesses
that
were
impacted
by
the
shutdown
and
impacted
by
the
lack
of
Street
foot
traffic
since
we're.
Similarly,
in
a
crisis
that
is
impacting
small
businesses
to
the
point
where
they're
closing
and
leaving
with
that,
you
know
what
we
consider
a
program
from
the
Commerce
Department
to
support
the
small
businesses
in
Kensington,
specifically
until
we
can
get
a
handle
on
what's
going
on
and
by
support.
I
mean
support
to
their
revenue,
so
that,
what's
going
on,
doesn't
force
them
to
to
close.
W
Over
the
past
few
years,
we
one
of
the
things
we
offered
was
a
free
security
cameras,
something
we've
done
in
other
parts
of
the
city
as
well
as
well,
as
our
you
know,
just
regular
resources
that
we
offer
to
all
small
businesses
we
partner
with
impact
in
New
Kensington
to
support
them.
But,
as
has
been
discussed
here,
the
challenges
in
Kensington
are,
unlike
anywhere
else
in
the
city
and
so
yeah
we're
open
to
any
and
all
resolutions.
H
I,
just
think
I
mean
we
do
a
lot
of
meaningful
work
across
the
city,
but
I
just
think.
One
thing
we
have
to
be
good
at
or
better
at
is
mobilizing
to
address
a
crisis
when
a
crisis
is
happening
and
offering
a
different
and
more
intense
level
of
support
when
when
and
where
a
crisis
is
happening,
and
so
if
the
small
businesses
in
Kensington
are
so
under
siege
that
they
are
being
forced
to
close
or
they're
leaving.
H
H
G
I
W
Yeah
I
think
that's
a
great
idea.
We
will
do
that
again.
I'll
make
sure
we
bring
in
New
Kensington
an
impact
to
our
our
boots
on
the
ground
and
meeting.
You
know
they
talk
to
the
businesses
every
day.
They
know
what
the
issues
are
and
I'll
just
add,
a
uray
with
covid
our
our
response
from
the
city
from
commerce's
perspective.
A
A
V
Council
member
first
of
all,
I
appreciate
your
comments
and
your
passion
about
people
who
are
on
the
street
and
who
are
unfortunately
so
addicted
to
drugs,
that
they're
at
risk
of
killing
themselves
and
the
inadequacies
with
our
current
law,
around
mental
health
commitments
and
around
commitments
for
people
who
are
essentially
close
to
dying
as
a
result
of
their
behavior.
You
and
I
have
had
that
conversation.
In
fact,
we
had
that
conversation
with
a
another
person
because
I
find
it
very
frustrating
as
well.
There
are
other
countries
that
do
better
with
that
than
we
do
it's.
V
It
is,
in
my
mind,
a
great
tragedy
that
we
have
the
number
of
fatal
overdoses
in
Philadelphia,
County
and
across
the
country
that
we
have
coming
back
to
your
issue.
I'm
a
big
supporter
of
amp
amp
has
been
around
for
many
years
and
you
have
been
one
of
its
Champions.
It
got
shut
down
during
the
pandemic,
like
everything
else
got
shut
down,
but,
like
you,
I
would
like
to
see
amp
five
days
a
week.
I
would
be
happy
to
sit
down
with
you
and
talk
to
you
about
that.
V
I
can
tell
you
that
the
public
defender,
who
in
in
my
mind,
is
doing
a
truly
excellent
job
is
facing
staffing
issues,
just
like
the
sheriff
just
like
the
police
department,
just
as
we
have
at
certain
times,
and
so
there
have
been
times
even
before
this
public
defender
when
there
were
staffing
issues.
I
am
committed
to
Staffing
five
days
a
week
with
current
resources.
O
All
right,
that's
great,
because
I
think
we,
you
know,
as
we
talk
about
there's
a
lot
of
different
things
that
we
could
do
and
that's
just
one
thing:
it's
not
going
to
solve
the
problem,
but
it's
a
way
to
get
some
help
for
folks
that
are
that
are
on
the
street.
That
I
think
we
could
hopefully
steer
them
in
the
right
direction,
so
I
would
love.
Maybe
we
set
that
up
next
week
and
get
down
and
figure
out
how
to
do
that.
Thank
you.
V
I'm
happy
to
do
that
and
I
do
want
to
just
make
one
comment,
something
that
I
remember
former
commissioner
Richard
Ross
saying,
which
is
that
the
solutions
usually
are
not
in
one
part,
it's
usually
layer
after
layer
of
programs
that
are
good,
each
one
is
going
to
take
a
little
bite
out
of
the
problem.
This
is
one
of
those
things
that
will
take
a
little
bite
of
the
pro
out
of
the
problem.
Obviously
it
hasn't
solved
it
and
it
has
been
around
for
years,
but
it's
positive.
V
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much
and
we
appreciate
having
these
difficult
conversations
so
that
we
can
come
up
with
consensus
and
I
think
we're
getting
there.
So
what
I
want
to
do
is
let
my
members
of
the
committee
know
we
are
approaching
8
30
and
we
have
an
ambitious
group
of
next
panelists,
and
so,
if
we're,
there
are
no
other
questions
for
this
group.
Can
we
is
there?
Okay?
Can
we
Mr
Cohen
bring
up
the
last
group.
B
B
A
Y
A
Y
Y
Hudson
Chief
Defender
for
the
record,
I
will
say
for
for
those
who
are
not
familiar
with
what
we
do.
We
are
the
agency
appointed
to
represent
people
who
are
arrested
and
charged
with
crimes
both
Youth
and
adults.
We
also
have
a
unique
practice
where
we
represent
the
children
who
are
in
the
dependency
system
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia.
Y
We
have
attorney-client
privilege
and
our
clients
will
tell
us
things
that
they
don't
tell
their
mothers,
they
don't
tell
their
fathers
and
when
a
client
walks
through
the
door,
we
go
back
Generations
these.
The
issues
that
the
clients
that
we
have
in
Kensington
are
facing
are
not
are
multi-generational.
Y
A
Y
It
is
a
Playbook
that
has
never
worked
I
if
you
I,
don't
watch
sports,
so
I
can't
believe
I'm
going
to
do
this.
But
if
we
are
playing
a
football
game
and
the
same
moves
aren't
getting
you
the
win,
you
don't
keep
using
the
same
moves.
That's
as
close
as
I'll
ever
get
to
a
football
analogy
right.
We
have
to
come
up
with
something
different
and
that's
the
trauma-informed
approach
for
both
the
community
residents.
Y
So
it's
that
child
who
is
walking
by
and
seeing
someone
inject
who
is
experiencing
deep
trauma,
but
it's
also
my
client,
who
once
was
that
child
who
has
experience
deep
trauma
and
my
clients
are
poor.
They
are
black
just
to
talk
about
specific
numbers
in
Kensington,
53
of
our
Kensington,
clients
are
Hispanic,
36
percent
are
black
and
11
are
white.
We
are
talking
about
black
and
brown
bodies
and
we're
going
to
have
this
conversation
again
in
another
50
years.
If
we
have
not
done
something,
different
investments
in
policing
are
important.
Y
So
this
is
how
we
are
using
our
budget
allocation,
our
dependency
unit,
the
majority
of
our
children
in
our
child
welfare
system
in
the
dependency
unit,
come
from
this
District
I.
Don't
think
that
we
can
divorce
the
issue
of
Philadelphia
lead
in
the
nation
in
the
separation
of
children
from
their
families.
Y
Kensington
lead
in
the
city
in
the
separation
of
children
from
their
families
and
say
that
that
has
no
correlation
to
what
we're
seeing
now,
because
it
does,
and
our
data
shows
that
one
in
four
of
our
children
who
are
in
the
dependency
system
are
picking
up
guns
and
or
committing
other
crimes.
In
the
delinquency
system.
Our
office,
the
children,
child
advocacy
unit,
sits
on
the
ninth
floor.
Y
They
will
have
a
file
on
the
client
and
then
they
walk
up
to
the
10th
floor,
because
the
children
in
youth
Justice
unit
also
have
a
the
file
on
that
client.
That
client,
because
of
missed
interventions
and
lack
of
resources
in
our
organization,
did
not
allow
us
to
prevent
that
child
from
making
a
choice
that
that
that
negatively
impacted
them
the
family
in
the
community.
So
we're
taking
a
deep
look
at
what
we
do
in
our
child
welfare
practice.
But
we
have
to
prioritize
the
preservation
and
reunification
of
black
and
brown
families.
Y
It
is
a
source
of
deep
trauma
when
you
rip
a
child
from
their
home.
Even
a
drug
addicted
parent
can
be
a
good
parent,
they
can
get
treatment
and
they
can
be
reunified
with
their
child
because
that
child
experiencing
that
trauma
is
going
to
be
my
delinquent
juvenile
or
my
adult
client,
one
in
four
of
our
dependent
kids
pick
up
a
delinquent
petition.
One
in
five
are
of
our
adults,
had
a
dependency
petition.
So
how
we're
using
our
budget
allocation
this
year
we
are
focusing
on
older
youth.
Y
We
are
increasing
Social
Services
to
focus
on
the
13
and
overpopulation
who,
if
they're
in
group,
placement
or
false,
foster
care.
No
one
wants
to
adopt.
No
one
wants
a
13
year
old
black
boy
he's
not
going
to
get
adopted.
The
eight-month-old
cute
kid
is
going
to
get
adopted,
not
my
13,
14
or
15
year
olds,
and
they
need
supports
wrapped
around
them
and
their
arm
and
our
arms
wrapped
around
them.
Y
So
we're
increasing
Social
Service
supports
focusing
on
older
youth,
we're
hiring
with
our
budget
allocation
for
peer
mentors
that
we
will
be
paying
forty
thousand
dollars
each.
These
peer
mentors
have
been
through
the
dependency
system.
They
know
what
it's
like.
They
can
help
us
work
with
our
clients
on
ways
we
can
help
them.
We
are
also
increasing
our
social
services
to
do
more
of
a
case
management
support
right
now
we
do
a
light
touch.
Y
We
tell
our
clients,
go
to
Community
Legal
Services
for
your
public
benefits
or
go
to
these
other
social
service
agencies,
the
bureaucracy
and
the
amount
of
administrative
work
that
our
clients
have
to
do
to
navigate.
Services
is
a
challenge
we
have
to
overcome
when
they
have
a
fifth
grade
reading
level
and
they
have
other
issues
that
they're
struggling
with
to
have
them
go
to
15
different
agencies
to
be
able
to
say,
I
need
help
with
this
issue
or
that
issue.
Y
Y
We
have
to
ensure
all
children
and
families
who
reside
in
areas
of
high
levels
of
community
violence
have
immediate
access
to
culturally
appropriate
trauma
treatment
invested
in
neighborhood-based,
culturally
appropriate
Services,
especially
housing
and
reshaping
policies
which
govern
the
best
interest
of
the
child
to
acknowledge
the
harm
imposed
upon
them
by
separation
from
their
families
and
neighborhoods.
Thank
you.
I.
A
Got
a
oh,
my
God,
so
I
I
got
to
tell
you
that
I
am
a
fan
and
I'm
a
fan
for
a
number
of
reasons.
One
you're,
one
of
the
only
agencies,
I
know
that
can
see
a
problem
coming
from
the
juvenile
point
of
view
when
you
are
representing
them,
often
as
their
Advocate
a
custody
case,
and
you
can
identify
somebody
that
really
needs
to
help
and
then,
unfortunately,
when
we
don't
provide
that
help,
they
are
the
defendant.
Please
rise
as
an
adult.
A
If
you
listen
to
what
she
talked
about
she's
punching
way
over
her
budget,
you
don't
get
funded
to
do,
or
at
least
I
don't
know
about
it.
Some
of
the
things
that
you,
in
your
case,
management
style.
You
are
a
Defender.
You
could
Define
your
job
as
in
the
courtroom
in
the
advocacy
role
and
then
after
that
decision
is
made,
see
you
next
time,
but.
G
A
Y
Prioritizing
justice
system
involved,
adults
and
families
for
social
services,
including
housing,
Workforce,
Development
substance
use
and
substance,
use
and
mental
health
treatment,
ensuring
all
children
and
families
not
just
Justice
involved
children,
families,
all
children
and
families
in
areas
of
high
levels
of
community
violence
have
immediate
access
to
trauma-informed
treatment.
We
have
to
invest
in
neighborhood-based,
culturally,
appropriate
Services,
especially
housing,
mental
health
and
substance
abuse,
treatment
for
children
and
their
families
in
the
dependency
and
delinquency
systems.
D
You
know
if
we
get
it
early
enough,
we
can
treat
it
and
dismiss
it,
because
I've
always
said
that
these
kids
that
were
not
treating
the
trauma
that
they're
seeing
they
are
going
to
be
the
addicts
and
the
criminals
of
tomorrow-
and
you
know
that's
not
that
that
doesn't
sit
right
with
me,
because
every
kid
should
have
a
chance
to
be
a
kid
to
enjoy
life
and
think
about
things
that
you
know
have
things
that
are
fun.
Not
thinking
about
what
the
kids
in
my
neighborhood
here
in
Kensington
have
to
think
about.
D
So
I
I
mean
I'm
I'm,
a
big
component
of
trauma
services
for
our
children,
I
mean
with
the
kids
in
this
neighborhood,
see
on
a
daily
basis.
Just
on
their
way
to
school
is
traumatizing
and
we
need
to
be
better.
We
need
to
be
better
as
a
council,
we
need
to
be
better
as
a
city,
you
know-
and
hopefully
we
can
get
some
money
over
there
so
that
we
can
actually
start
trying
to
the
thing.
D
But
it's
also
you
know
I'm
a
numbers
guy
like
some
of
us
up
here
are-
and
you
know,
I
heard
a
amazing
statistic.
In
Pennsylvania
we
have
one
child
psychiatrist
for
every
10
000
children.
Now
it's
a
little
better
here
in
Philadelphia,
because
we
are
a
big
city,
but
that's
just
ridiculous.
How
is
one
person
supposed
to
see
10
000
people?
It
just
can't
happen.
A
O
Also
too
I
would
say
that
and
I
want
to
thank
the
Defenders
Association
for
her
work
with
Anne.
It's
really
important
to
have
everybody
on
all
sides,
understanding
the
benefits
of
that
Court,
which
gives
people
an
alternative
and
one
question:
do
you
think
with
your
current
Staffing,
you
would
be
able
to
do
five
days
a
week.
Z
Z
I
will
say
that
I'm
very
pleased
that
Council
has
is
focused
so
intently
on
talk
of
of
summary
and
quality
of
life
issues.
No
discussion
about
our
approach
to
security
and
safety
on
on
Septa
is
accurate
without
at
least
saying
that
we
focus
a
tremendous
amount
of
effort
on
quality
of
life
issues
on
Septa,
historically
and
I've,
been
with
the
police
department
for
30
years.
We
know
that
it
tends
to
keep
violent
crime
down.
Z
We've
been
dealing
with
more
violent
crime
as
of
late,
but
the
fact
remains
that
our
focus
on
on
summary
offenses
has
served
us
very
well
over
the
years.
To
put
that
in
perspective,
we
are.
We
are
aggressively
enforcing
quality
of
life
issues,
just
some
numbers
over
the
Kensington
Corridor
at
four
stations
through
Kensington.
We.
Z
Z
Sure
so,
they're
they're
low
level
issues
dealing
with
like
open
alcohol
use,
possession
narcotics
smoking
other
code
of
conduct
issues
the
the
behavior
that
we
don't
want
on
the
system,
safety
issues,
loitering
blocking
public
transit
ways.
Things
like
that,
so
so
just
the
four
stations,
almost
400
offenses-
that
that
we've.
Z
We
have
more
resources
deployed
than
any
four
station
area
over
the
rest
of
SEPTA
over
all
of
SEPTA's
200,
plus
stations,
more
policing
resources,
more
Outreach
worker
resources,
more
security
resources
and
more
cleaning
resources.
Just
over
that
four
stretch,
because,
frankly,
we
need
it,
and
we
recognize
that
you
know
we
engaged
in
a
pilot
last
year
in
terms
of
cleaning
and
really
deep
cleaning
SEPTA
stations.
We've
done
two
of
those
efforts
over
the
Kensington
stations.
This
year
we
have
another
station
in
Tioga
schedule
for
this
weekend.
Z
You
know
the
level
of
service
to
our
customer
that
we
want
to
provide
I'll
go
through
just
another
list
of
things
that
we
have
most
recently
implemented
or
are
in
the
process
of
implementing
all
these
are
relatively
new
efforts,
so
so
increase
in
Staffing
along
the
market
frankfur
line
along
the
east
end
of
the
market,
Frankfurt
line
that
started
in
March,
so
we
added
more
police
officers.
To
that
section,
we
have
we're
seeing
a
rebound
in
recruitment
very
happy
to
report.
We
just
graduated
a
class
of
21
recruits
put
that
in
perspective.
Z
Z
So
so,
as
I
said,
that
graduating
class
is
coming
out.
Now,
that's
going
to
enable
us,
in
terms
of
real
officer
numbers
to
to
dedicate
another
another
six
to
eight
officers
across
every
shift
in
the
Kensington
Carter.
That
number
will
probably
drop
a
little
bit
over
the
weekend,
but
that's
a
real
number
that
we're
now
contributing
every
every
weekday
we
have
created
the
virtual
Patrol
that
that
was
born
out
of
some
of
the
staffing
issues
we
experienced
years
ago.
Z
Z
Z
But
the
fact
remains.
The
fact
remains
that
that
our
customers
are
not
complaining
about
serious
crime
day
in
and
day
out,
they're
they're
complaining
about
the
conditions
that
they
see
at
our
stations
on
board
our
trains.
That's
what
we're
focused
on
trying
to
to
impact
with
these
quality
of
life
enforcement
efforts.
Z
A
D
Z
So,
just
let
me
finish
just
a
couple
of
other
things
that
we've
implemented.
We
we've
we've
hired
some
civilian
data
analysts
now
so
we're
looking
weekly
at
at
measuring
statistics
through
that
Corridor
every
week,
I
get
a
report
on
on
measuring
our
key
performance
indicators
through
that
area.
Some
of
the
reports
of
the
statistics
that
I
read
off
to
you.
Z
We
have
a
fantastic
partnership
with
with
our
partners
at
PPD.
We
have,
we
have
started
conducting
joint
sweeps
now
in
the
Kensington
Allegheny
area.
We
established
that
about
a
month
ago.
That's
going
well
I
hope
we
can
expand
that,
but
that
that's
conducted
twice
a
day
with
the
members
of
the
Philadelphia,
Police,
Department
and,
of
course,
partying
them
with
more
serious
issues.
You've
heard
some
statistics
put
out
by
Philadelphia
on
the
recent
narcotics
efforts
in
East
Division.
Z
I
I'd
be
lying
to.
If
you
said
that
was
not
occurring,
we
are
absolutely
dealing
with
a
much
bigger
issue
of
possession
and
use.
We
we
find
discarded
needles
by
the
bucket
loads
throughout
our
system.
That
use
is
a
major
major
issue
for
us.
We
have
some
absolutely
targeted
hot
spots
where
distributions
going
on,
but
by
and
large
it's
possession
and
use
is
our
problem
and
then
just
a
couple
final
things:
we've
engaged
in
an
end-of-line
initiative,
so
it's
very
difficult
for
us
right,
you're,
asking
police
officers
to
identify
homelessness.
Z
You
can,
if
you're,
asking
police
officers
to
identify
who
by
look
is
a
Narcotics
user.
You
can't
we're
gonna
get
into
trouble.
We
do
that
right.
So
so
we
police,
behavior
and
activity.
So
so
we
can't
in
many
circumstances,
determine
who's
paying
a
fair
to
get
on
right.
So
so,
when
they're
on
our
trains,
we
have
to
assume
that
they
paid
to
get
on
what
we
do
enforce.
Is
you
pay
a
fare?
You
pay
a
fair
one
fare
you
go
to
the
end
of
the
line.
Z
Z
Z
You
got
to
pay
a
fair,
and
if
you
don't
you're
off,
we
are,
as
I
said,
we
we
will
remove
folks
aggressively,
remove
folks
from
from
our
system
for
Engage
The
behavior,
that
we
don't
want
year
to
date
and
again,
just
over
the
Kensington
corridor
year.
Today,
we've
removed
10
801
individuals
for
violating
some
section
of
our
code
of
conduct
or
or
engaging
in
a
crime
on
something.
A
Z
Yep,
so
if
you're
lying
down
in
a
concourse
on
sector
or
you're,
sleeping
on
the
train,
you're
laid
out
yet
you're,
taking
up
multiple
seats
with
with
many
belongings,
those
are
those
are
things
that
will
engage
an
individual
tell
them.
They
can't
do.
Try,
try
to
see
if
they
won't
accept
services
and
if
they
refuse,
we
remove
them
from
the
system.
Z
Are
Unfortunately
they
are
and
and
and
that's
who
we're
focused
on
right
like
we're
our
summary
enforcement
efforts
are
created
with
the
idea
of
identifying
the
smaller
number
of
repeat
offenders
right,
because
once
you're
banned
from
SEPTA,
if
you
return,
while
the
pain
is
in
effect,
we're
willing
and
we
do
arrest
for
Criminal
Trespass.
Now
it's
a
misdemeanor.
Now
it
has
a
little
more
bite.
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
service.
Thank
you
appreciate
what
you're
doing
for
this
community.
Do
you
have
analysis
of
your
ridership
at
those
four
stations?
Are
they
students
going
back
for
to
school
people
going
back
and
forth
to
work
during
rush
hour
or
non-traditional
times?
Do
you
have
that
kind
of
data.
X
By
yourself,
yes,
we
do
have
that
data
I,
don't
have
it
handy,
but
we
do
and
and
anecdotally
I
can
tell
you
it's
a
mix
during
when
school's
in
session.
We
see
a
lot
of
students
when
it's
not.
We
see
Rel,
run-of-the-mill
commuters,
going
back
and
forth
to
work
shopping
trips
whatever.
What
have
you
so
it
is.
It
is
a
mix
at
most
of
those
stations,
any.
C
I
just
want
to
for
the
record
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
to
the
chief
and
to
Wendy
and
the
SEPTA
team.
I
met
with
them
last
week
about
some
of
the
issues
that
are
reported
to
my
office
on
a
consistent
basis
around
the
platforms
and
around
trash
and
and
while
they
didn't
make
it
to
our
walkthrough.
Today
they
have
committed
to
partnering
with
us
and
and
joining
our
pilot
efforts
of
24-hour
cleaning,
and
so
we
we
met
today.
We've
created
a
plan.
C
A
AA
AA
I
would
like
to
see
us
hire
a
more
bilingual
staff
and
we
are
working
to
fill
a
Spanish
language
access
and
engagement
specialist
position
so
that
we
can
have
a
greater
presence
in
the
community
and
register
more
people
to
vote.
But
I'm
not
going
to
lie.
We
are
not
the
Silver
Bullet.
The
low
voter
participation
is
a
symptom
of
the
underlying
cause
of
the
issue
because
of
the
crime
and
open-air
drug
use,
residents
are
afraid
to
leave
their
homes
or
let
their
kids
play
outside.
AA
So
we
run
into
the
same
problems
that
any
other
City
Department
runs
into
when
providing
services
to
these
constituents.
I
think
that
we
need
to
look
at
issues
from
all
perspectives
to
find
the
best
course
of
action.
We
all
come
to
this
issue
with
a
personal
bias.
We
all
love
an
addict
or
love,
someone
that
loves
an
addict
love
and
sympathy
can
Cloud
our
approach
to
addressing
this.
We
need
to
remember
the
people
who
are
living
here
and
how
it
affects
them.
Kensington
is
more
than
the
problems
we
see
in
headlines.
AA
AA
I
am
here
to
tell
you
that
the
City
Commissioner's
Office
appreciates
the
absolute
attention
that
this
committee
has
paid
to
this
very
important
issue,
and
we
look
forward
to
working
with
you
to
increase
access
to
voting
services
to
the
residents
of
Kensington
and
increase
the
voter
participation
rate,
which
is
the
goal
we
have
for
the
entire
city.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Question
in
this
area
is
voter
turnout,
higher
or
lower
lower
and
in
this
community?
How
do
we?
How
do
we
make
the
connection
to
voter
education
so
that
we
can
increase
that
turnout
and
I
guess?
My
final
question
would
be:
how
many
polling
places
are
we
established
in
this
area
to
make
it
more
convenient
to
walk
fewer
steps
to
get
to
participate.
AA
Well,
for
your
last
question,
I'll
have
to
get
you
that
information
I'll
look
at
the
boards
and
the
divisions
and
and
give
you
the
count
on
the
polling
places,
but
we
face
that
same
problem
when
we're
looking
to
put
drop
boxes,
satellite
offices
polling
places,
we
have
to
take
everything
into
an
account.
You
know
with
regard
to
the
health
and
safety
of
the
people
that
are
working.
The
polls,
although
we
don't
have
a
problem
in
this
area
of
recruiting
election
board
workers
participation
is
very
low.
AA
So,
for
instance,
it
was
well
publicized
in
2020
the
general
election.
When
we
were
dealing
with
the
covid-19
pandemic,
we
were
able
to
secure
a
10
million
dollar
Grant
to
help
us
conduct
that
election
and
one
of
the
things
we
were
able
to
do
was
we
opened
17
satellite
election
offices
around
the
city,
including
one
at
Julio
de
Burgos,
and
one
at
massbaum
Julio,
but
de
Burgess
was
the
first
one
of
the
first
to
open
in
the
city.
AA
In
addition,
we
spent
over
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars
on
a
bilingual
advertising
campaign
which
included
radio,
TV
social
media,
all
kinds
of
bus
wraps
truck
wraps.
We
advertise
all
over
the
radio,
but
sadly
the
Julio
de
Burgos
satellite
office
was
the
least
utilized
office
in
the
city,
although
it
helped
increase
male
voting
participation
in
the
area
surrounding
the
school.
The
participation
was
low.
AA
People
were
coming
from
other
satellite
offices
by
bus
to
go
to
Julio
de
Virgos
because
they
didn't
they
knew
that
they
wouldn't
have
to
anticipate
a
line.
So
we
know
that
the
participation
level
is
low
here
for
the
same
reasons.
So
we
would
like
to
be
able
to
engage
more
with
the
community
and
come
out
to
more
events
and
be
as
proactive
with
you
as
we
possibly
can.
G
AB
Yeah
I,
don't
have
any
I
won't
be
testifying
per
se.
I
know
for
the
for
the
issue
of
time.
My
name
is
Kevin
Bethel
I'm,
the
chief
of
school
safety
I'm
here
with
Chief
Karen
Lynch,
who
can
who
will
introduce
yourself,
but
since
I
got
the
mic,
who
runs
their
support
services,
so
I
just
really
want
to
to
emphasize
I
think
in
our
last
session
we
were
here.
Oh
first
and
foremost,
I
I
have
to
extend
my
appreciation
to
the
department.
AB
You
know
the
work
that
we've
done
down
in
this
Corridor
would
not
have
been
able
to
be
able
to
do
that
to
it
supporting
us
on
it
every
day.
As
you
know,
my
men
and
women
are
not
armed,
so
we
rely
heavily
on
them,
but
the
last
time
I
was
here.
The
conversation
came
about
safe
path
and
our
need
for
additional
funding.
I'm,
not
sure.
If
that
came
out
of
this
budget
cycle
or
not,
but
recognizing
that
it
may
not.
AB
AB
We
made
a
pivot,
most
recently
to
say,
looking
at
our
schools
in
our
opioid
quarters
that
their
demand
is
even
higher
than
that
because
of
what
they're
seeing
on
a
daily
basis
and
so
we're
moving
forward
with
getting
as
many
of
the
internal
dial
as
we
can
to
start
to
expand
our
safe
path
program
in
this
area
and
I
I
will
tell
people
this
is.
This
is
I
worked
this
area
20
years
ago,
and
it
wasn't
like
this.
So,
let's,
let's.
AB
I,
don't
want
to
hear
those
60-year
conversation
20
years
ago
when
I
was
down
here,
we're
doing
operation,
sunrise
and
sunset,
we're
doing
all
kinds
of
activity
and
what's
challenging,
but
it
never
ever
ever
was
what
I
see
our
kids
come
through
today.
Let
me
give
you:
let
me
give
you
an
example
at
Willard's,
yes,
ma'am.
AB
Because
we
were
first
and
foremost,
we
don't
talk
about
it,
but
there
are
multi-million
dollar
drug
Corners
down
here.
Some
of
those
Corners
are
owned
by
four
different
people
who
sell
four
different
products.
You
can
sit
there
and
talk
about
a
wire
I
did
wires
down
here.
I
did
all
of
that
stuff.
I
could
do
a
wire
tomorrow
and
take
a
group
out
and
guess
what
there'll
be
another
group
back
there.
AB
The
next
day,
part
of
the
work
was
about
enforcement
and
I
I
listened
and
all
of
you
out
there
know
I
do
a
balanced
approach,
I
truly
believe
in
a
restorative
work,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
when
those
comments
are
said,
when
I
walk
down
this
I
give,
let
me
give
you
an
example:
I
was
in
Willard,
School
has
been
shot
up
three
times:
Willard
School
across
the
street.
The
last
time
we
had
a
shooting
was
on
Jasper
Street,
where
the
bullet
went
into
the
classroom.
AB
The
kids
had
just
left
the
classroom.
A
half
an
hour
before
that.
Do
you
realize
I
have
bulletproof
blankets
on
windows
at
Willard
to
make
sure
that
the
bullets
don't
come
up?
Jasper
Street
I
mean
so
so
when
you
have
this
drug
element
down
here
and
you
have
multi-million
dollar
drug
organizations,
and
then
you
allow,
you
know
those
sales
to
continue
and
just
fester
in
here,
and
then
we
expect
something
different
is
going
to
happen
is
not,
and
so
I
know
I'm
getting
outside
of
my
zone,
because
I've
been
in
both
sides
of
it.
AB
I
sat
there
with
a
teacher
who
was
sitting
there
just
in
tears
just
so
thankful
that
the
bullet
didn't
hit
her
child
and
guess
what
it
was
just
me
and
my
colleagues
from
the
police
department
and
others
were
sitting
in
that
room,
no
cameras,
no
attention
to
the
fact
that
those
issues
are
going
on,
and
so
that's
what
we're
dealing
with
on
a
daily
basis.
I've
had
deaths
at
the
doorstep
of
my
schools.
AB
You
know
it's
like
to
go
to
a
school
and
and
have
to
sit
there
and
bring
the
kids
around
from
the
other
side
of
the
school,
because
sitting
in
the
front
lobby
of
the
of
the
school
entry
is
someone
who's
OD'd
in
the
entryway
of
the
school,
like
I
mean
I
mean.
So
when
we
talk
about
trauma
yeah,
we
can
work
on
all
that,
but
we
got
we.
This
is
not
acceptable.
AB
You
know,
and
so
so
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do,
and
so
we
we've
been
dedicated
our
safe
Pass
Program
into
this
space,
where
we
have,
we
make
sure
that
we
have
a
school
safety
officer
here.
I
have
men
and
women
working
overnight
to
clean
the
pushed
around
the
buildings,
to
make
sure
that
when
the
kids
come
in
the
morning
that
they
can
walk
through
and
not
see
all
of
those
activities
yeah
we
have,
we
have
built-in
Engineers
are
out
there
walking
around
picking
up
needles.
AB
You
know
that's
just
not
normal
and
we
gotta.
You
know,
I
hear
the
cry,
but
just
like
many
folks
have
been
here
before
you
know.
Something
definitely
has
to
demonstrately
change.
What
we're
we're
never
going
to
make
any
inroads,
but
we're
we're
prepared.
I,
never
thought
I'd
be
a
chief
for
school
safety
sitting
in
the
school
district.
Dealing
with
the
issues
I
deal
with
my
schools
down
here.
AB
I,
never
ever
thought
that
teachers
there's
no
one
who's
prepared
these
teachers
and
these
School
leaders
for
this
and
when
I
sit
in
a
classroom
and
a
young
boy's
talking
about
how
he
walks
through,
and
he
has
all
the
language
of
the
street.
You
know
the
fiends
and
he
said:
I've
got
a
child
who's
in
third
grade
talking
about
fiends,
oh
and
I
mean
we
got
a
lot
of
work
to
do
we're
going
to
continue
to
dedicate
our
work,
but
we
do
need
to
support
particularly
around
our
savings
passes.
AB
C
Can
you
tell
me
of
those
schools
as
of
today
how
many
are
in
need
of
teachers?
I
often
hear
from
teachers
who
work
in
the
seventh
Council
District,
who
say
to
me?
Councilwoman
I
I
want
to
teach
I
love.
Children
I
want
to
be
here,
but
I'm
afraid
to
be
here,
I'm
afraid
to
come
to
your
neighborhood,
to
be
able
to
teach
I
know
that
there
is
one
of
the
schools
in
the
district.
C
That
said
to
me
that
she
has
about
seven
vacant
slots,
and
so
you
know
with
with
with
just
two
months
before
school,
begins
I'm
concerned
about
that
right,
because
a
lot
of
our
kids
are
going
through
the
system.
We're
not
teaching
them
appropriately
and
part
of
it
is
because
we
can't
keep
teachers
who
are
qualified
to
be
able
to
teach
our
children
because
of
the
public
safety
issue.
AC
Councilwoman
Thomas
Hannah
associate
superintendent
for
secondary
schools,
formerly
principal
at
Shepherd,
Willard
and
Kensington
High
School
done
my
career
here
for
the
most
part,
what
you
call
out
and
councilman
councilmember
Harry,
which
you've
called
out
in
terms
of
a
Clarion,
call
for
folks
to
come
and
do
this
work.
There
are
people
in
this
community
in
this
country
who
want
to
come
and
do
this
work
they're,
not
afraid
of
any
of
this
got
to
pay
him.
AC
You
got
to
Value
them
when
they're
in
our
buildings,
because
one
of
the
reasons
teachers
leave
Chestnut
Hill
is
because
the
conditions
that
are
in
those
buildings
in
terms
of
value
in
terms
of
respect
and
things
of
that
sort.
This
is
part
of
why
we
see
folks
leave
in
this
community
in
this
community.
We
have
people
who
want
to
be
here.
AC
The
challenge,
of
course,
is
everything.
You've
called
out,
they're,
afraid
I
walked
up.
The
combo
couldn't
believe,
there's
a
black
wrought
iron
fence
outside
of
this
beautiful
building.
Those
are
the
types
of
things
we've
had
to
do:
to
be
able
to
sort
of
to
sort
of
give
people
a
sense
of
safety.
False
sense
of
safety,
frankly,
with
all
due
respect,
so
I
think,
and
what
Dr
watlington
has
been
very
clear
about,
is
we've
got
to
pay
our
Educators
more
every
last
one
of
them.
AC
That
said,
there
is
something
to
be
said
for
certain
Equitable
isn't
always
equal,
and
so,
if
you
choose
to
come
to
Kensington
High
School,
which
was
divided
from
one
Behemoth
high
school,
with
15
1800
students
into
three
smaller
schools
that
has
seemed
to
work
right,
you've
got
Edison.
High
School
has
room
for
2200
students.
AC
AC
That
district
is
suffering
the
same
kinds
of
issues
here
and
when
we
attempted
to
put
a
school
on
an
entire
floor
of
mansion,
because
Mansion
has
room
for
2500
students
and
they're
500
students
in
the
building
that
could
be
swing,
space
right
for
schools
that
are
suffering
because
of
asbestos
and
other
issues,
the
community
that
was
coming
in
turned
it
down
because
they
would
not
send
their
children
to
that
school.
You
think
if,
tomorrow,
we
told
the
parents
of
Frankfort
High
School
that
their
entire
building
has
come
in
Edison.
AC
You
know
what
would
happen
holy
hell
to
pay
because
of
the
perception
and
not
frankfurt's
fault
the
perception
of
this
community
and,
as
you
said,
we're
sitting
here
engaging
in
this
dialogue
and
the
PD
left,
because
in
this
community,
six
folks
got
shot
it's
real,
and
so
we
have
to
have
the
foresight
to
say,
prepare
yourself
to
come
and
do
this
work.
The
other
piece
we're
doing
is
working
with
students.
AC
We
just
graduated
nine
Stu,
only
nine
from
our
Public
Schools,
who
just
received
full
rides
to
Temple
because
they
decided
to
go
into
teaching
our
job
is
to
offer
them
a
guarantee
so
that
when
they
come
with
their
certification
in
whatever
area,
we
give
them
a
job.
Don't
now
that's
gonna,
that's
not
gonna
happen
tomorrow,
Temple
stepped
up.
Other
universities
need
to
step
up.
We
also
have
paraprofessionals
from
this
community
who,
by
the
way,
are
black
brown.
AC
Speak
looked
like
all
of
us
and
speak
nuestro
idioma,
who
are
power
Professionals
in
our
buildings,
who
are
who
are
working
toward
a
degree
so
that
they
can
teach
in
our
schools
as
well,
because
some
of
the
most
equipped
people
in
our
buildings
to
keep
classrooms
under
control,
guess
what
it
wasn't:
Mr
Hannah
when
he
started
teaching
at
Potter
Thomas
at
six
in
Indiana,
in
room,
214
and
fifth
grade
I,
didn't
know
what
that
guy
was
doing.
You
know
who
it
was.
AC
It
was
the
power
profession
who
was
signed
to
me,
who
was
from
that
Community
knew
those
young
people
and
frankly,
onboarded
me
to
be
able
to
do
this
work.
So
that's
a
really
long
drawn
out
answer
right,
but
we
do
have
vacancies.
Our
team
is
working
very
hard
to
fill
vacancies
and
to
make
sure
that
we
fill
them
with
the
right
people,
because
councilman
with
all
due
respect
and
I,
hear
you
loud
and
clear.
This
isn't
for
everyone
and
I
would
rather
tell
people
the
story
of
Kensington
and
be
part
of
the
Renaissance.
AC
So
you
don't
leave
third
period
on
a
Wednesday
and
the
principal
doesn't
know
about
it
because
you've
had
it
I'd.
Rather,
you
come
in
understanding
what
you're
getting
into.
Let
me
work
with
you
and
we're
going
to
get
you
through.
That
said,
it's
not
easy,
but
there
are
people
who
are
willing
to
take
the
challenge.
You're,
not
wrong
when
you
said
make
it
like
the
Army.
This
job
is
a
cross
between
the
Peace
Corps
and
the
Marine
Corps,
and
we
got
to
be
honest
about
it
and
not
BS
people
about
what
this
work
is.
C
AC
A
C
Other
questions
for
this
group
I
just
have
one
more,
and
that
is
you
know
you
mentioned
Frankfort
High
School.
Some
members
of
the
education
committee
are
here,
Vice,
chair,
Brooks
is
here
and
and
I,
don't
I,
don't
know.
If
we've
been
able
to
receive
a
very
clear
plan
of
what
is
going
to
happen
in
September
with
all
of
our
students
Vice
chair,
have
we
received
that
because
I
haven't
seen
it
I
may
have
missed
it?
Okay
and
so
is,
do
you
all
know
what
the
plan
is
for
Frankfurt
students.
AC
AC
AC
AD
AB
The
program
a
year
ago,
where
presently
11
schools
councilwoman,
but
it
was
really
focused
after
the
shootings
we
were
having
during
the
let
out
as
we
were,
you
know,
the
kids
in
the
neighborhood
are
calling
it
now
addressing
the
violence
that
we're
having
you
know
with
Lincoln
and
Overbrook
Bartram.
You
know
where
the
kid
was
killed
right
outside
we've
now
shifted,
because
we
think
we've
ident.
We
have
and
moved
to
Now
using.
We
use
a
harm
score
for
our
schools,
but
we
put
our
opioid
corridors
in
a
different
category.
AB
AD
AD
AB
No,
no,
these
are
community
members
yeah,
yes,
ma'am,
so
they're
paid
we
put
out
our
RFP
last
year,
I
Day
Institute
for
the
development
of
Africa
youth,
Dr,
Lee
and
Destroy.
His
team
won
the
award,
so
they're
actually
hire
community
members.
From
that
specific
era,
they're
paid
I
believe
around
15
an
hour,
maybe
a
little
bit
more
I'm,
not
sure
the
exact
dollar
to
work
in
those
corridors.
We
have.
AB
We
work
with
the
University
of
Pennsylvania
in
their
injury
science
unit
with
a
Philadelphia
Commission
on
crime
and
delinquency
put
out
a
grant.
We
were
able
to
get
additional
two
million
dollars,
but
that's
going
to
be
running
through
the
University
of
Penn
and
they're,
going
to
be
doing
an
additional
six
or
seven
schools
or
maybe
I,
believe
eight,
and
then
we
have
some
internal
dollars
from
you
know.
The
federal
funds
that
came
in
we
were
able
to
Repro
use
those
funds.
AB
AD
AB
Think
we're
not
there.
There's
no
question
I
mean
we're.
Bringing
individuals
in
there
is
a
small
training
element
we
have
not
given
them.
We
give
them
some
de-escalation
training
and
conflict
resolution.
We
have
not
moved
to
the
level
to
what
you
describe
a
more
advanced
but
a
more
than
open
to
have
those
conversations
around
how.
A
We
are
working
with
the
school
district
to
teach
trauma
recognition
not
only
to
School
teachers
but
to
parents
as
well,
so
that
is
in
the
beginning,
stages
love
to
have
you
there.
We
have
a
we've,
had
our
safe
Carter
program
for
let's
say
10
years,
and
we
get
it
wasn't
an
original
idea.
We
copied
off
of
somebody
else,
but
it
is
not
perfect,
but
it
does
work
and-
and
so
I
would
invite
all
members
two
on
seven
a.m.
AB
AD
AD
Just
from
listening
to
the
community
members
and
just
making
sure
that
our
young
folks,
based
on
the
statistics
that
our
public
defender
shared,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
giving
our
young
people
all
the
supports
that
they
need
and
I
think
the
schools
primarily
right
here
in
this
area
that
are
being
impacted
by
this
epidemic.
We
need
to
funnel
the
resources
there
and
I
think
we
need
to
if
we
need
to
Loop
in
Dr,
Bowman
or
whoever
else
to
make
sure
that
happens.
Let's
make
sure
it
happens,
because.
AB
AB
C
S
AD
Chance
to
look
at
the
Kensington
plan
and
I'm,
hoping
that
it's
including
more
of
this
in
there,
but
we
need
to
make
sure
that
our
young
people
are
protected
from
this
experience
and
protection
means
preventing
them
from
being
able
to
be
affected
as
they
get
older.
And
we
have
to
address
the
trauma
immediately.
So.
H
AE
AE
We
have
trained
people
within
our
schools
to
be
able
to
recognize
when
a
child
comes
into
the
school
one
way
on
a
day
and
a
different
way
on
another
day
that
perhaps
something
has
happened,
we
have
circles
Community
circles
within
our
schools,
you
can
go
into
our
kindergarten
classes
and
you
can
see
our
young
people
sitting
in
a
circle
and
engaging
with
one
another
and
developing
relationships.
You
see.
The
same
type
of
experience
is
happening
K-12
in
all
of
our
schools.
The
school
district
of
Philadelphia
is
now
a
licensed
provider
of
Behavioral
Health
Services.
AE
We
are
partnering
with
Community
with
cbh.
They
are.
We
are
a
provider
for
their
service.
It
is
a
partnership
that
has
grown
over
the
last
10
years
and
now
the
the
sustainability
of
the
services
there,
because
we're
licensed
and
cbh
recognize,
is
that
licensure
and
pays
us
for
the
services
that
we
are
providing.
Cdh
is
also
putting
intensive
Behavioral
Health
supports
in
every
single
one
of
our
schools
that
is
intended
to
be
able
to
serve
a
child
within
the
school.
AE
The
same
provider
within
the
home,
the
same
provider
within
the
community
and
those
services
are
appropriate,
linguistically
and
culturally
appropriate.
So
if
the
community
is
primarily
Spanish-speaking,
for
example,
that's
the
service
provider,
that's
going
to
be
in
the
school
with
those
with
those
Services
I'm
going
to
say
one
more
thing,
because
I
know
time.
AE
We
recognize
that
it's
important
for
our
teachers,
our
school-based
staff
as
to
be
trained
as
well
as
for
our
children
to
receive
trauma-informed
Services.
We
have
engaged
in
our
healing
centered
engagement,
which
is
a
new
initiative.
This
year
we
have
have
15
schools.
Actually,
no,
we
have
17
schools
that
are
participating.
Thank
you,
councilman
Jones,
because
we
identified
two
more
when
we
met
with
you
that
are
participating
in
this
effort.
AE
We've
just
ended
camp
achille,
where
it's
children
in
our
community
who
have
experienced
trauma,
had
the
opportunity
to
engage
in
a
trauma-informed
care
experience
of
camping
to
help
deal
with
their
trauma
address
their
trauma
throughout
the
school
year.
We're
going
to
have
training
for
our
teachers
and
our
school-based
staff
I'm
only
giving
you
a
small
snippet,
but
it
is
an
environment
of
trauma,
informed
care.
We
recognize
that
our
schools
are
buildings
where
there
should
be.
AD
AE
AD
A
A
A
K
Were
patient
these
guys
I,
don't
know
what
his
name
is,
but
there's
a
person
that's
doing
the
safety
quarter,
Corridor
program
for
this
neighborhood
I
believe
his
name
was
Mike
I'm,
not
sure
he's
an
older
white
dude.
He
we
he's
awesome.
He
gave
me
his
card.
He
walked
through
a
house
that
was
abandoned
and
a
bunch
of
like
the
addicts
were
inside.
K
That
was
right
next
to
Willard
and
went
through
the
house
with
me
cleared
the
house
helped
me
to
seal
the
house
up
because
it
was
directly
next
to
the
school
and
he's
been
actively
talking
to
every
Community
like
or
to
the
crossing
guard
who
like,
if
you're,
a
kid
who
grew
up
in
Philly
the
crossing
guards.
You
knew
them.
You
grew
up
with
them
and
they're
extremely
important
to
you.
They
know
you
growing
your
whole
childhood
and
I've.
Seen
this
guy
specifically
do
a
really
good
job.
I,
don't
remember
his
exact
name.
K
I
could
find
I
have
a
pic,
my
cart.
My
phone
died,
I'll,
take
a
email
or
something
but
I
just
want
to
say
that,
like
I've
seen
active
like
because
you
were
asking
about
participation
in
like
positive
Community
or
like
I
watched
him
talk
to
someone
who
was
addicted
and
talked
to
them
with
experience
from
his
own
addiction
and
be
trauma-informed
and
be
con
like
consistent
in
his
effort.
K
Even
though
the
person
was
getting
aggressive
with
him,
while
still
being
able
to
talk
to
kids
and
move
things
through
the
community
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
that
program,
if
there's
a
way
to
find
more
funding
through
it
through.
This,
has
been
extremely
helpful
for
me,
because
I
live
a
half
a
block
away
and
I
see
all
that
goes
on
here
and
thanks.
Thank.