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From YouTube: Joint Committee on Public Safety and the Special Committee on Gun Violence Prevention 11-22-2022
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The Joint Committees on Public Safety and the Special Committee on Gun Violence Prevention of the Council of the City of Philadelphia will hold a Public Hearing on Tuesday, November 22, 2022, at 9:00 AM to hear testimony on the following items:
220699
Resolution authorizing City Council’s Committee on Public Safety and the Special Committee on Gun Violence Prevention to Hold Hearings Regarding Relocating Victims Who Are Targets of Deadly Violence and Determining How the $500,000 Appropriated for their Relocation was Utilized
A
B
C
Thank
you
Mr
chairman.
They
understand
that
state
law
currently
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C
Everyone
who
has
been
invited
to
the
meeting
test
to
testify
should
be
aware
that
this
public
hearing
is
being
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hearing
is
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and
viewers
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continuing
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meeting,
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You
are
consenting
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prior
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councilman
Jones,
recognizing
members
for
the
questions
or
comments
they
have
for
the
witnesses.
I
will
know
for
the
record
at
this
time.
C
C
C
B
B
Thank
you,
so
much
Mr
glass
I
want
everybody
to
know
that,
whether
it's
a
member
Johnson,
a
member,
oh
other
members
of
this
committee.
This
is
a
vital
issue
to
the
justice
system,
to
our
constituents
and
to
prevent
more
gun
violence,
because
without
Witnesses
there
is
no
justice
without
people
willing
to
bravely
come
forward
to
see
something
say
something
in
a
safe
manner.
Then
you
know
Justice
grinds
to
a
hawk
and
those
perpetrators
that
to
the
crimes
which
are
a
very
small
percentage
of
the
city
of
Philadelphia's
population,
get
away
with
it.
B
Witness
relocation
safely
increases
our
closure
rate
on
open
cases.
I
get
so
sick
of
hearing
news
reports
where
you
hear
about
gun
violence,
we
hear
about
fatalities
and
you
hear
no
one,
no
suspects
and
those
cases
often
stay
open
for
long
periods
of
time.
So
we're
looking
at
the
money
that
has
been
appropriated
and
how
it
was
spent.
B
E
I
know
we
have
a
lot
of
different
individuals
who
are
going
to
be
speaking,
which
I
believe
is
great,
but
the
key
thing
that
I
want
to
see
at
the
end
of
this
hearing
is:
what's
the
plan
how
the
money
has
been
spent.
How
are
we
going
to
protect
those
who
are
most
vulnerable
when
it
comes
to
addressing
the
issue
of
gun
violence?
Anything
else.
It's
just
a
part
of
the
discussion.
E
We
need
to
make
sure
that,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
people
feel
sick
when
they
do
participate
in
coming
for
it,
because
if
they
we
can't
keep
them
safe,
then,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we'll
have
a
revolving
door
of
gumballs
because
we
won't
solve
homicides.
We
want
South
shootings
because
a
lot
of
times
we
put
a
lot
of
pressure
on
our
homicide
detectives.
E
H
These
young
people
believed
that
their
children,
one
of
their
children,
had
cooperated
with
law
enforcement
might
not
be
true,
but
because
they
could
not
get
to
that
particular
child.
They
were
targeting
the
mothers
and
their
children
and
I
went
out
to
one
of
the
homes
to
actually
look
at
the
home,
and
the
first
thing
I
saw
was
a
metal
Lamppost
with
a
bullet
hole
in
it.
As
I
went
to
the
porch.
Everything
was
covered
in
paper,
the
windows
when
I
went
into
the
home.
H
H
The
the
mayor's
office
stated
that
they
absolutely
felt
this
was
an
important
issue
and
were
100
on
board.
That's
why
they
approved
the
500
000
relocation
money
and
in
our
conversations
with
councilmember,
Jones
and
council
member
Johnson,
it
was
stated
and
and
I
think
clearly
in
this
conversation,
and
certainly
by
my
by
myself,
because
I
have
worked
in
the
district
attorney's
office
and
I've
worked
as
a
criminal
defense
attorney.
H
H
Until
after
the
trial,
it's
actually
not
called
relocation,
but
it's
just
Witness
Protection
relocation
that
we
were
talking
about
and,
as
we
talked
with,
the
administration
was
taking
a
person
who
was
being
targeted
with
deadly
violence
and
their
children
and
moving
them
to
a
new
location
out
of
the
neighborhood
unbeknownst
to
the
people
in
the
neighborhood.
It
was
not
to
move
them
to
a
hotel
or
motel
for
a
couple
of
weeks
and
then
have
them
come
back
to
that
same
home
in
the
same
neighborhood
with
the
same
people
hunting
for
them
to
date.
H
H
If
the
mother
doesn't
have
an
address,
so
they
have
to
have,
they
have
to
be
able
to
be
moved
and
in
that
particular
case,
as
we'll
hear
from
our
Witnesses
that
mother
eventually
got
a
gun
to
protect
herself,
and
now
she
is
in
jail
and
the
children.
One
of
them
is
missing
the
14
year
old,
to
my
knowledge
might
be
15
now
the
consequences
of
people
being
unable
to
protect
themselves
being
targeted
with
deadly
violence.
H
Eventually
they
try
to
protect
themselves,
and-
and
this
is
where
the
trouble
escalates
she
was
supposed
to
have
been
moved
for
over
a
year
and
was
not
moved.
We
got
this
money,
she
was
supposed
to
be
moved
and
has
not
been
moved.
I
want
to
understand
what
happened
to
the
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
there's
a
new
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
being
appropriate
for
this
very
purpose.
H
When
this
this
work
has
not
been
done
so
I
think
it
is
a
very
important
hearing
chairman
and
co-chair,
as
you
say,
because
it's
a
very
public
matter
now.
We
need
to
protect
the
people
in
our
community,
but
this
is
something
new
and
we
wanted
to
protect
these
people
in
particular
until
we
could
get
our
arms
around
this
problem
through
our
police
and
district
attorney
and
other
folks.
So
with
that
I.
Thank
you
very
much
for
holding
this
hearing.
B
B
B
C
B
B
J
Yes,
thank
you.
My
name
is
Dr
Dorothy
Johnson's
fight,
I'm,
founder
and
national
executive
director
of
mothers
in
charge,
an
organization
I
started
in
2003
almost
20
years.
No
I
am
not
new
to
this.
I
want
to
thank
first
of
all
this
morning
for
this
public
hearing
and
special
committee
on
gun,
violence,
councilman
Owen
and
Johnson
councilman,
Jones
and
councilman
Johnson
for
caring
enough
about
this
issue
to
hold
such
a
hearing.
J
This
is
so
important
mother's
in
charge
of
they
said
it
was
started
in
2003
and
we've
been
serving
families
over
the
years
on
the
ground
meeting
with
families
every
single
day
who
oftentimes
are
afraid,
afraid
after
they've
had
to
bury
a
son
or
daughter,
because
someone
took
their
life
murdered
them.
They
come
to
us
oftentimes
and
they'll.
Say
things
like
well,
the
investigation
can't
go
any
further
because
we
have
no
Witnesses
or
we
need
two
witnesses
or
they
they
tell
us.
J
They
can't
do
anything
in
terms
of
the
investigation
of
my
son
or
my
daughter,
because
the
witnesses
won't
come
forward.
They
are
afraid.
So
this
resolution
is
so
very,
very
important
to
so
many
families
of
unsolved
murders.
Unsubmers
oftentimes
because
people
are
afraid
and
they
don't
feel
supported
when
they
have
information.
J
My
son
was
murdered
over
parking
space
many
years
ago
and
there
were
people
in
the
community
who
knew
that
he
had
killed
the
person.
Ernest
Odom
had
killed
Justin
in
December,
but
wouldn't
come
forward
because
they
were
afraid
they
saw
him
running
from
the
scene.
They
knew
all
the
information
but
wouldn't
share,
because
they
didn't
feel
that
they
were
being
supported
so
oftentimes.
J
You
know
someone
may
be
arrested,
but
sixty
percent
of
these
guys
keep
killing
over
and
over
again
because
they
know
that
they
can
get
away
with
it
because
they
know
that
no
witness
is
going
to
come
forward
because
they
know
that
the
Witnesses
are
afraid
because
they're
out
there
killing
every
day.
So
this
resolution
is
so
very
important
to
solving
homicides.
J
It's
a
part
of
what
we
want
to
do
around
violence
prevention,
so
I
again,
I
just
want
to
thank
you
know
all
those
involved
with
this
allocation
of
this
funding
for
these
families
to
be
relocated-
and
this
has
been
something
that's
been
going
on
for
years,
like
no
support
for
these
families
I
remember
years
ago,
with
what's
his
name,
Leland
Kent
was
trying
to
do
a
relocation
and
it
never
really
worked.
It's
got
to
work.
We've
got
to
put
the
things
in
place
this
time
around
with
480
homicides
in
this
city
this
year.
J
So
far,
we've
got
to
do
more
than
we're
doing
to
save
lives
and
no
one.
No
one
is
safe
until
we're
all
safe.
So
please,
please
find
this
money
put
it
where
it's
supposed
to
go
and
try
to
find
some
more
money
to
go
with
it
to
help
save
the
lives
of
retaliation
families
who
want
to
give
information
but
are
afraid
to
because
these
guys
are
just
running
rampant
because
they
know
they
can
get
away
with
it.
So
my
play
is,
you
know,
please
do
all
that
you
can
to
address
this
issue.
J
We
don't
know
who
the
next
homicide
victim
may
be.
It
may
be
someone
dear
and
close
to
you
as
well.
We
all
have
to
be
involved,
there's
no
one
person
or
one
entity
that
has
to
solve
this
together
collectively.
We
must
all
work
together
to
address
this
issue
and
get
these
people
off
the
street
that
are
creating
havoc
in
our
lives
every
single
day.
Those
of
us
who
have
lost
loved
ones
to
violence
are
traumatized
every
single
day
that
we
hear
another
person
has
been
murdered.
J
B
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
testimony
and
doctor
I
want
you
to
know.
Whenever
I
listen
to
you,
your
passion
on
both
sides
of
the
Ledger,
not
just
for
your
victims,
but
for
those
who
might
be
able
to
be
rehabilitated
comes
across
and
I
appreciate
that
Clarion
voice
in
this
discussion,
so
I
just
want
you
to
know
that.
Are
there
any
questions
of
members
of
the
panel
for
Dr
Spike
we're
going
to
do
it
that
way,
it
is
today.
B
You
that's
a
that's
a
strong,
strong
point.
They
are
all
our
children.
I
I've,
been
in
courtrooms
where
the
victim's
family
is
on
one
side.
The
perpetually,
the
defendant's
family
is
on
another
side
and
there's
nothing
in
there,
but
sadness
they're,
all
our
children
you're
right.
Thank
you
so
much
who's.
The
next
witness
to
testify
Mr,
glass,
Toby,
Downing,
Mr,
chairman-
are
you
there.
Are
you
connected
I'm
here
all
right?
Thank
you
state,
your
name
for
the
record
and
please
begin
your
your
testimony.
That's
Miss,
Diamond.
K
Downing,
my
name
is
I
work
for
Northwest
victim,
Services
I'm,
the
executive
director,
and
thank
you
all
for
inviting
me
to
participate
in
this
hearing.
So
relocation
is
a
huge
issue.
As
for
us,
as
we
serve
survivors
of
gun,
violence
and
victims
of
crime
is
one
of
the
most
common
requests
for
assistance,
housing
and
relocation
assistance
and,
in
my
years
of
supporting
victims
through
some
of
these
requests
and
the
limitations
of
how
we
do
deal
with
this
issue.
K
K
K
People
want
the
same
things
for
our
survivors
of
gun
violence,
and
what
we
see
is
that,
even
with
money
available,
our
families
often
aren't
able
to,
because
of
the
landscape
of
affordable
housing,
the
lack
of
affordable
housing
they're
not
able
to
meet
the
needs
and
we're
not
able
to
assist
them
with
the
flexibility
of
dollars.
The
way
families
need.
We
need
to
be
able
to
meet
families
where
they
are.
K
We
have
I've
had
many
young
men
who
may
need
to
leave
the
area
and
they
may
have
an
uncle
in
down
south,
but
unfortunately,
some
of
the
relocation
dollars
says
that
you
have
to
have
a
licensed
realtor
average
19
year
old
is
not
going
to
be
able
to
walk
into
an
office
and
rent
an
apartment
with
no
credit
history.
Many
of
them
haven't
even
finished
school,
and
so
we
need
to
if
we're
really
committed
to
providing
sustainable
relocation,
find
ways
to
support
people
in
real
ways
and
meet
them
where
they
are
I.
K
Think
and
some
of
the
things
I
think
about
is
I,
know,
there's
the
checks
and
balances
thing
you
don't
want
money
to
just
you
have
to
make
sure
that
you're
being
accountable.
So
we
need
to
figure
out
how
do
we
building
those
checks
and
balances
but
support
people
where
they
are?
We
had
lots
of
mothers.
K
Our
systems
aren't
the
way
we
support,
aren't
flexible
enough
to
just
meet
her
where
she
is
and
also
I
know.
Emir
had
kind
of
a
rapid
re-housing
model
where
you
pay
some
money
up
front,
and
you
continue
to
pay
for
several
months
until
the
family
gets
on
their
feet.
We
need
to
consider
that
our
dollars
need
to
be
applied
in
ways
that
can
support
a
family
through
the
trauma
of
and
they're,
also
dealing
with
trauma.
That's
the
other
thing.
K
I
wouldn't
be
calling
you
so
I
would
just
like
to
offer
this
space
and
this
opportunity
to
think
about,
as
we
identify
more
money
think
about
how
it
trickles
down
how
we
apply
that
money
and
finding
ways
to
really
meet
the
family's
needs
and
the
ways
that
we
know
like.
We
can't
be
Tethered
to
economic
structures
that
disadvantage
the
very
families
that
we're
serving.
B
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
testimony.
So
what
I'm
hearing
is
that
willingness
on
most
Parts
is
that,
whether
it's
law
enforcement,
whether
it's
the
courts
and
whether
it's
the
people,
the
systems,
aren't
in
place
to
make
it
a
smooth
transition.
It's
not
just
money,
it
is
systems
that
need
to
be
in
place
and
remove
all
barriers
you're.
So
right,
Shooters
are
getting
younger.
B
What
do
they
know
about
leases
and
things
like
that,
and
you
know
there
are
people
that
I
know
of
that
were
in
that
whole
drill,
music,
world
and
just
you
know,
found
themselves
engulfed
in
it.
One
shooting
and
they
just
want
to
be
out
of
it,
but
don't
know
how
to
get
up,
and
we
have
to
put
better
supports
in
place
for
to
to
provide
the
the
right
hand
of
Fellowship
in
the
left
hand,
of
punishment
and
knowing
when
to
apply
either.
B
There
are
some
people
that
aren't
going
to
change
their
ways,
but
there
are
plenty
of
people,
the
majority
of
people
that
really
just
want
to
exit
ramp
out
of
this
stuff,
and
so
that's
number
one
number
two.
We
need
to
codify
those
barriers
that
you
spoke
of
and
really
list
them
and
take
it
upon
ourselves
to
create
a
organized
method
of
removing
some
of
them
and
I
think
it
can
be
done.
B
K
K
My
experience
with
it
is
that
even
they
had
limitations,
and
so
I
heard
someone
commenting
about
the
moving
to
the
hotel,
and
there
were
a
lot
of.
It
was
almost
a
Band-Aid
in
a
lot
of
ways,
because
some
of
the
protections
that
we
need
to
codify
weren't
in
place.
So
there
was
an
expectation
that
oftentimes
we
would
get
a
20
year
old,
who
just
a
20
year
old,
not
the
whole
family.
K
The
20
year
old
would
be
referred
and
he's
supposed
to
relocate,
which
is
not
even
a
realistic
act
and
relocate
by
going
to
these
systems
that
require
that
individual
to
sign
a
lease
show
a
rental
history,
all
of
the
things
that
many
families
are
able
to
show
and
if
they
are
able
to
show
find
the
rent.
That
is
Affordable
and
that's
an
issue
in
the
city
anyway,
Beyond
being
a
victim
of
violence.
But
if
you
add
being
a
victim
of
violence,
that's
it
and
so
there's
limitations
with
that.
K
And
then
it's
just
not
a
comprehensive
enough
approach,
and
so
the
city
is
important.
This
500
000
is
important
that
the
city
is
committed
to
providing
that
support
and
what
we
need
is
we
need
how
relationships
with
housing
authorities.
We
need
to
be
able
to
get
vouchers
for
eligible
individuals
because
they
do
need
some.
Many
of
them
do
need
subsidized
housing.
It's
a
lot
of
money.
The
average
rent
and
I
know
the
statistic
just
for
other
reasons:
I've
been
working
on
it.
K
The
average
rent
for
one
bedroom
is
like
eleven
hundred
dollars
in
the
city
for
a
one
bedroom.
We
have
many
mothers
who
are
seeking
assistance
and-
and
that
would
require
here
in
the
city
three
months,
3
300
up
front
for
a
one
bedroom,
we're
not
talking
about
a
house
or
moving
to
a
place
where
you're
not
finding
yourself
in
more
Harm's
Way.
That's
the
other
thing
that
happens.
K
The
places
that
many
of
the
families
are
able
to
secure,
they're,
just
jumping
from
one
hot
bed
to
another
habit,
and
they
some
of
the
kids
end
up
seeing
some
of
the
same
people
that
could
cause
harm
and
so
to
your
question.
I
just
think
that
the
city
needs
to
commit
like
from
the
heart
and
from
the
law
and
from
policy
perspective
to
supporting
these
families.
I
think
there
is
a
particular
stigma
against
these
families
and
victims
of
gun
violence.
K
B
K
B
K
I
don't
know
across
the
all
the
agencies,
but
I
could
say:
I
was
trying
to
do
in
preparation
for
this
conversation
for
Northwest
easily,
since
the
seven
months
I've
been
on
board
50
of
the
individuals
that
we
talk
with
ask
for
some
level
of
assistance
with
moving
or
housing
assistance,
because
they're
they've
been
injured
and
they
have
been
unable
to
keep
up
their
bills.
So
a
combination
of
Housing
and
relocation
assistance
and
what.
K
B
K
It
depends
on
the
income
and
needs
of
the
family,
but
I
know,
while
I
think
the
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
was
great
I
when
I
first
saw
that
I.
Remember
thinking,
that's
not
enough!
So
I
do
remember
thinking,
that's
we.
You
could
easily
do
10
to
15
000
for
one
family
if
you're
doing
it
to
be
sustainable,
got.
B
B
C
L
L
I
survived
my
mother's
death,
I
survived
Trayvon
Martin's
death
I
survived
my
grandmother's
death,
my
mentor's
death,
Leslie
Pelzer,
a
shack
and
David
fattah
I
survived
the
death
of
my
children's
father
by
gun,
violence
I
survived
what
I
thought
was
my
own
death
after
being
shot
in
the
face
by
a
40,
caliber,
so
I
believe
it's
our
God's
plan.
I
am
here
to
speak
in
this
hearing
for
all
people
to
help
my
whole
being
off.
L
My
existence
is
off
so
bear
with
me.
If
I
seem
a
little
bit
down,
I
fight
every
minute
to
survive
and
assume
with
councilman
Jones
and
the
DA's
victim
crime
compensation
staff
they
apologized,
they
had
made
their
resources
available
to
me
and
my
sons.
As
someone
told
the
D.A
krasner,
we
were
really
relocated
and
safe
and
taken
care
of
with
every
resource
and
their
power
when
in
fact,
we
had
been
given.
No
resources,
in
fact
we
were
given.
No
nothing,
no
money,
no
housing,
no
food,
no
help
with
our
medication,
no
help
with
my
medication.
L
I'm.
Sorry,
anyone
to
dispense
it
no
caregiver
to
help
me
heal
in
the
zoom.
The
two
things
I
was
clear
about
was
my
needs
as
a
victim
for
me,
and
my
sons
and
the
fact
that
a
close
friend,
son
Anthony
Brown
case
was
struck
in
the
DA's
Integrity
unit
for
years.
Just
like
my
victims,
compensation
resource
has
been
held
up
me
and
my
family
has
been
surviving
going
into
the
second
year
of
struggling
to
live,
no
sense
of
urgency
for
months
into
a
year
waiting.
L
What
did
I
get
I
didn't
get
any
resources
that
applied
to
my
situation.
I
didn't
get
any
funds,
I
didn't
get
anything
for
an
apartment,
I
was
told,
I
was
going
to
be
helped
by
Section
8,
section
8
doesn't
even
have
my
application
and
I
have
no
income.
Disability
denied
me
I'm,
sorry
guys.
My
vision
is
like
going
in
and
out.
B
L
Your
time
did,
they
know.
I
was
disabled,
with
pain,
overwhelming
me
and
I
will
never
see
out
the
eye
again.
I
pass
and
one
eye
is
blind.
My
eyes
was
removed
in
June,
I,
don't
have
an
eye.
My
first
question
is:
what
is
the
DA's
crime
office
supposed
to
do
for
survivors
of
violence
or
even
gun
violence?
Like
me,
perhaps
I
got
it
wrong
after
60
weeks,
we
still
need
help.
We
couldn't
get
a
straight
answer.
L
We
ironically
I
heard,
and
ironically
I
heard
Durham
Myra
Maxwell's
testimony
to
the
chairsmen
at
the
hearing
this
headed
by
Council
last
week.
Helped
me
lift
my
family
passed.
The
effects
of
gun
violence,
I
survived
I
am
no
longer
a
victim
I'm,
a
Survivor
who
was
promised
accommodation
resources
to
help
my
recovery
protect
me
and
my
young
children
from
further
attacks.
I
believe
that
would
happen
weeks
after
I
watched,
my
family
and
friends
and
their
family
and
friends
and
strangers
sacrificed
to
help
me
and
encouraged
me
to
stay
strong.
L
They
gave
me
hope
to
forget
about
the
red
tape
that
was
preventing
me
from
getting
the
help
that
me
and
my
children
needed.
That
was
promise
mandated
to
help
victims
and
survivors
of
violence
and
just
concrete
on
getting
strong
enough
to
function
like
a
mother
should
69
weeks
plus
later
after
my
surgeries
doctor
visits
continuous
continuously
and
endless
pains,
I'm,
sorry
painful
days,
I
am
not
properly
located
or
protected.
I
am
still
hopeful.
I
wish
I
wish
help
to
come.
I
will
survive
this
event
and
restore
the
qualities
of
life.
L
L
I
want
to
live
near
the
people
that
came
to
my
house
that
I
looked
up
to
who
were
famous,
who
gave
back
and
helped
other
people
the
many
fundraisers
I
volunteered
in
that
helped
other
people
I
want
to
live
and
be
around
those
people
who
helped,
but
now
I
just
want
to
have
a
safe
place
for
me
and
my
children
to
live
so
they
can
survive
and
pass
the
age
12
to
25.
So
I
can
come
back
and
help
my
friends
that
have
been
affected
by
this
disease
of
unpeacefulness
and
homicides
and
gun
violence.
L
L
You
are
right.
If
you
don't
help
us,
you
will
put
more
take
red
tape
up
and
play
criminals
created
because
of
the
red
tape.
Roadblocks,
I
can't
tell
you
how
many
times
this
past
year
me
and
my
family
have
been
intimidated
by
my
neighbors
or
an
authority
a
delicate
moment.
We
have
it's
this
moment.
We
have
the
power
to
make
it
right.
I
don't
have
to
reach
out
to
Ben
Crump
for
help.
We
can
settle
this
right
here
in
our
city,
our
mayor
D.A,
and
this
hearing
today.
Just
listen.
Don't.
M
B
B
B
B
L
B
L
Yes,
my
kids
live
in
the
same
stressful
situation.
I
was
actually
relocated
by
the
DA's
office
at
that
time.
So
I
was
coming
back
to
the
block
to
pick
my
son
up
and
take
him
to
school
and
we
were
boxed
in
a
block
and
they
smashed
the
window
out
and
pulled
the
gun
out
on
us.
So
my
son
didn't
never
want
me
to
take
him
back
to
school.
After
that.
B
L
B
That
is
disturbing
to
me.
I
think,
one
of
the
things
that
we
did
last
week
we
had
a
hearing
talking
about
the
true
cost
of
trump,
from
the
point
that
the
person
picks
up
a
gun,
creates
that
assault
and
or
shooting
what
happens
then-
and
this
is
a
part
of
yet
what
happens
then
did
you
work
before
you
were
shot.
L
L
L
L
L
C
H
H
I
believe
she
does
know
and
has
identified
the
people
harassing
her.
That
is
Criminal
people
harassing
her
are
criminals
and
they
should
be
arrested
and
dealt
with.
But
how
does
she
do
that
when
she
lives
right
there?
We
have
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
her.
We
have
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
her.
She's
got
not
one
penny,
and
now
we
have
another
five
hundred
thousand
dollars.
Where
is
all
this
money?
She
cannot
function.
H
She
takes
medication
and
knocks
her
out.
She
wakes
up
the
next
day.
She's
dizzy
she's
up
for
a
bit.
She's
got
two
kids
to
care,
for
she
can't
care
for
them.
Her
aunt
her
family
they're
on
their
own
and
and
this
is
completely
unacceptable
and
shocking,
but
in
the
light
of
the
fact
that
we
just
gave
the
city
with
the
mayor's
blessing
five
hundred
thousand
dollars,
this
has
to
be
taken.
Care
of
this
is
completely
inhumane.
H
This
is
a
victim,
a
young
woman,
who's
a
victim
many
times
over.
What
happened
to
this
money?
It
should
be
used
to
help
this
person
and
people
like
her
and
I
know
you're,
just
as
outraged
as
I
am,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
this
outrage
and
and
publicity
has
got
to
result
in
some
type
of
action
where
we
can
move
this
young
lady
and
her
aunt,
because
she
needs
a
caretaker,
she
cannot
function.
She
cannot
work.
She's
got
two
more
surgeries.
H
H
C
B
L
L
C
D
Name
is
Shantae
love
I'm,
the
president
of
Emir
Healing
Center,
which
stands
for
every
murder,
is
real.
I
stand
before
you,
and
this
is
a.
Although
I'm
asked
to
speak,
it's
a
sad
opportunity
that
I
am
speaking
that
the
problem
of
relocation
and
housing
assistance
we've
had
this
discussion
last
August
last
sept,
August
of
2021
August
of
20,
September,
21,
November
21
and
still
is
having
this
conversation
is
that
we
know
that
there
is
a
major
flaw
in
relocation,
housing
for
Witnesses
of
crime.
D
The
importance
of
us
getting
this
right
is
necessary.
Today
we
were
fortunate
to
have
a
pilot
project
that
was
not
only
supported,
also
was
evaluated,
assessed
with
policies
that
was
supported
by
the
federal
government
for
victims
of
crime.
The
difference
in
the
program
that
we
are
we
are
saying
is
that
it
allowed
victim
agencies
to
do
the
work
they
need
to
do
in
relocating
families.
D
Policies
that
city
city
departments
and
state
departments
have
will
not
meet
this
Gap
because
of
the
regulations
that
victims
survive.
Survivors
and
agencies
should
have
the
opportunity
to
do
the
work.
We
do
not
need
another
department
developed
in
the
city
to
try
to
do
this
type
of
work,
because
your
policies
will
not
help
it
to
be
able
to
move
a
family
out
of
danger
is
necessity,
but
not
only
that
you're
talking
about
moving
them
out
of
danger,
also
helping
them
put
the
pieces
together.
D
The
missing
component
that
agencies
and
Community
groups
are
having,
as
well
as
yourself
as
elected
officials,
is
the
missing
component
of
a
community
partner
and
support
to
make
that
happen,
because
you
don't
hit
the
red
tape
and
the
policies
just
already
existed
will
not
do
it.
For
example,
if
if
we
are
able
to
move
a
family
help,
them
move
immediately
to
safety
and
then
walk
with
them
as
they
get
stabilized,
that
takes
resources
and
it
takes
Manpower,
but
it
also
takes
someone
to
understand
victims,
rights
and
regulations,
and
that's
community.
D
D
D
D
We
have
to
fix
it.
You're
talking
about
one
family,
a
non-family.
Well,
guess
what
I
have
36
families
on
a
waiting
list
with
over
a
hundred
people
on
a
waiting
list,
but
what
was
I
able
to
do
when
I
did
have
funding
I
was
able,
in
six
months
to
relocate
people
immediately
within
hours.
I
was
able
to
help
people
stabilize
so
that
they
had
a
permanent
place.
It's
not
just
moving
them.
It's
about
also
having
them
caregivers,
making
sure
that
education
is
intact
for
their
children.
D
It's
about
really
helping
those
that
have
been
impacted
by
violence
and
that,
if
we
put
the
in
the
impact
and
the
effort
makes
meets
each
other,
the
blessings
come
and
I'm,
and-
and
we
can't
keep
going
around
this
circle-
Shantae
love
at
a
near
Healing
Center
cannot
keep
going
around
this
circle
and
that
it's
unacceptable
for
all
of
us.
We
are
all
responsible
every
last.
One
of
us
need
to
take
ownership
in
this,
because
this
is
an
easy
fix.
B
D
Funding,
oh
no,
that
was
a
number
that's
needed
with
my
services.
That's
on
the
waiting
list.
I
do
not
have
the
funding
to
do
it.
I
can
tell
you
about
some
numbers
of
people
that
we
served
in
six
months
with
the
proper
funding,
emergency,
shelter
and
safety
nights.
We
did
392
nights
transitional
nights.
We
had
798,
we
relocated
252
in
six
months,
so.
B
D
Oh,
you,
don't
you
don't
hit
the
number
I
your
number
you
have
is
a
start,
but
you're
talking
about
to
solve
the
problem,
you're
needing
Millions,
because
what's
what
and
and
when
I
see
when
you
say
solving
the
problem,
I'm
saying
solve
the
problem,
mine
is
completely
different.
Mine
is
to
to
fix
violence,
which
means
you
need
to
have
about
70
million
dollars
to
work
on
violence,
so
I,
just
and
when
you're
talking
about
relocation.
D
Yes,
yes,
if
you're
talking
about
relocation,
you
need
about
two
million
to
start,
so
we
and
that's
and
that's
for
a
year,
look
at
the
District
Attorney's
Office
budget.
Look
at
the
city's
relocation
housing
budget.
The
problem
that
you
have
is
that
if
it's
it's
temporary
and
it
doesn't
have
a
permanent
fix,
so
then
it
keeps
rolling
the
cycle.
You're
missing
the
part
of
how
do
you
stabilize
that
family
in
a
permanent
place
so
that
they
can
move
forward
and
so
half
a
half
a
million
is
is
five
for
six
months.
B
B
We
just
transferred
another
half
a
million
to
the
half,
a
million
we
had
before.
But
what
I'm
hearing
from
you
is
we're
still,
probably
not
in
the
ballpark,
where
we
should
be,
which
is
two
million
dollars
now.
Let's
say
that,
and
that
only
addresses
the
temporary
nature
of
relocation
and
protection
that
does
not
address
the
total
of
stabilization
of
families.
Post
violent
instruments
am.
D
I
right,
oh
that's,
correct,
but
that
but
relocation
should
be
leading
towards
a
stabilization,
and
so
it's
a
it's
a
huge
moving
part.
It's
not
only
victim
service
and
Community
providers.
It's
also
partnering
up
with
housing
groups
that
help
stabilize,
and
so
it
should
not
be
a
thing
where
your,
where
money
is
just
to
move
them.
The
the
money
should
be
utilized.
I
will
tell
you
and
I
will
continue
to
promote
moving
people
in
different
ways,
not
only
temporarily,
and
sometimes
everyone
is
not
needed
to
move
permanently.
D
They
may
need
to
move
for
a
week
or
two
to
stabilize
where
they're
at.
Maybe
they
don't
want
to
be
relocated
in
another
place,
but
their
house
need
to
be
repaired.
Maybe
they
maybe
they
need
to
be
moved
temporarily
until
their
family
decides
to
all
relocate.
That
might
just
be
a
month
in
the
hotel
and
they
have
a
plan
already.
D
What
if
they
need
to
if
us
moving
them
and
then
stabilizing
them
in
a
permanent
place
and
supporting
them
for
a
year
is
the
the
return
is
too
beneficial
to
not
invest
but
to
make
it
happen.
But
you're
talking
about
dollars
that
you
have
but
you're
not
able
to
utilize
it
in
an
effective
way.
I
am
Pro.
I
am
I,
am
pushing
that
we
have
a
dialogue
again
around.
What
that
looks,
like
I
will
present
what
I
have
and
what
I
believe.
D
D
B
B
D
All
right,
councilman,
Jones,
I,
I
I
in
in
all
of
my
colleagues
that
are
not
only
so
that
are
survivors
of
violence
that
are
in
this
work
and
that
are
elected
officials.
Looking
at
this,
let's
have
that
conversation,
but
let's
move
on
it
because
we've
had
the
conversation
and,
let's
be
clear,
just
you
have
to
have
the
community
component
that
we've
all
looked
at.
What
the
concern
is
the
city
and
you
have
to
be
okay.
D
I
know,
there's
things
like
you,
don't
that
they're
struggling
to
support
Community
groups
to
do
the
work,
but
the
community
groups
is
the
pulse
of
the
community.
They
help
stabilize
the
community
and
the
red
tape
that
City
and
elected
officials
that
happens
in
that
municipality
and
their
bureaucracy.
Until
you
change
laws,
you
will
have
that
problem.
So
I'm
urging
you
to
Let's
really
talk
about
what
that
looks
like
and
let
us
move
on
it,
but
also
be
okay
with
making
mistakes
and
re
and
pivoting.
D
B
Thank
you
to
your
point.
What
we
will
do
is
come
up
with
a
proposed
agenda.
We
will
try
to
make
this
a
exercise
that
is
inclusive
of
people
who
actually
have
boots
on
the
ground,
people
who
have
funding
to
apply
so
that
we
can
meet
in
the
middle.
What
I'd
like
to
do
is
get
a
university
to
actually
undertake
this
so
that
they
can
be
the
continuity
and
to
kind
of
memorialize
what
we
are
attempting
to
fix.
B
I
think
it's
an
appropriate
time,
because
never
in
the
history
of
me
being
around
have
we
ever
had
a
775
million
dollar
Surplus
in
the
city.
We
have
never
in
my
history
had
a
12
billion
dollar
billion,
would
it
be
Surplus
at
the
state
level?
So,
if
we're
ever
going
to
be
able
to
adequately
funded
this
now.
B
D
You
very
much
and
I
make
my
last
statement
is
that
if
one
of
those
that
are
on
my
list
of
survivors
and
on
everyone
else,
list
of
that's
waiting
to
be
moved
is
has
take,
is
unfortunately
victimized,
re-victimized
or
even
murdered.
Then,
who
put?
Who
hits
that
bill
for
us
not
moving
on
it?
And
thank
you
for
your
time.
B
M
Mr
chair,
yes,
I'm
here,
I
just
wanted
to
be
recognized
as
present,
but
I.
Also
since
I
have
this
opportunity
want
to
say
that
I
agree
fully
with
Shantae
love
that
we
need
to
get
to
a
point
where
we
are
moving
people
away
from
danger,
and
it's
worth
it
for
us
to
make
not
only
that
investment
to
save
lives,
but
the
investment
and
making
sure
that
people
are
able
to
stabilize
Thrive,
especially
when
you
compare
that
investment
to
everything
that
we
are
losing
and
spending
due
to
the
gun,
violence
epidemic.
M
B
H
It's
no
longer
with
the
victim
services
or
whatever
offices
are
there.
It
apparently
I
think
and
when
waiting
for
the
testimony
was
transferred
to
the
district
attorney's
office,
which
I
thought
we
specifically
well
I
know
we
specifically
said
not
to
send
it
there,
because
it
is
not
answering
this
question,
but
your
program
and
perhaps
some
others
were
immediately
moving
people
with
great
success.
H
My
concern
and
I
some
completely
agree
with
our
chairman,
Curtis
Jones.
You
know
there.
There
are
bigger
issues,
but
in
the
meantime,
500
000
is
available
to
move
people
right
now,
except
we
don't
have
it
anymore,
but
we
have
another
five
hundred
thousand,
but
I
want
to
know.
Where
is
that
five
hundred
thousand,
quite
frankly,
I
want
it
back?
It
should
go
to
your
program
and
other
programs
right
now.
There's
people
waiting
to
be
moved
and
it's
nothing
against
the
District
Attorney's
office.
They
are
moving
Witnesses.
They
get
state
and
federal
money.
H
They
get
money
from
the
city.
If
they
want
money
for
their
program,
they
certainly
can
ask
for
it.
But
this
money
from
the
mdo's
office
was
supposed
to
go
to
immediate
relocation
in
a
in
a
stable
way
to
get
people
out
of
the
line
of
fire.
There,
of
course,
there's
more
that
could
be
done
later,
but
just
to
move
them
and
to
take
care
of
their
immediate
situation,
and
that's
what
I
want
to
know.
That's
why
we're
having
this
hearing?
H
B
F
You
have
any
comments.
Thank
you
Mr,
chairman
I.
Am
president
I
am
number
one
I
want
to.
Thank
you
for
this
most
important
hearing
and
I'm
just
joining
the
hearing,
so
I
will
be
having
some
questions
in
a
few
moments,
but
I.
Thank
you
for
putting
this
very
important
hearing
together.
I
see
my
old
friend
Shantae
love
here
on
the
screen.
F
We
go
way
way
back
and
you
know
I
do
want
to
recognize
her
and
her
organization
Amir
as
doing
outstanding
work,
not
just
for
the
city
of
Philadelphia,
but
in
the
eighth
Council
District
in
Germantown,
which
is
where
they're
based
at
so
you
know
lots
of
love
to
Shantae
love
and
for
all
the
work
that
all
of
these
organizations
and
providers
do
for
our
city.
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
thank.
B
A
N
Absolutely
first
of
all
good
morning
and
thank
you
to
councilmember
Jones,
councilmember,
Johnson
and
council
member,
oh
for
convening
this
very
important
conversation,
which
is
something
that
I've
been
working
on
since
beginning
the
office
of
the
victim
Advocate
at
the
top
of
the
year.
So,
just
to
reiterate
one
more
time
my
name
is
Adara.
Combs
I
was
confirmed
by
the
council
body
as
a
whole
in
January
to
head
the
newly
created
Office
of
the
victim
Advocate
and
joining
me
today,
Sean's
alberville,
who
is
executive
director
of
The
Office
of
Atlas
prevention.
N
So,
as
we
know,
and
I'll
submit
my
written
testimony
for
the
record,
which
was
sent
prior
to
this
hearing
before
the
purposes
of
time
and
efficiency,
I'll
kind
of
go
through
it
and
highlight
what's
important
so
that
there's
room
for
for
questions.
Excuse
me
so,
as
we
all
know,
the
rising
tide
of
violence
is
something
that
we've
been
battling
and
it's
obviously
had
a
direct
correlation
in
terms
of
the
safety
of
our
communities.
N
With
that
increased
lack
of
safety
within
our
communities
has
come
in
increased
need
for
support
from
families
who
are
directly
impacted
by
imminent
threats.
In
terms
of
violence
within
our
city,
as
shootings,
homicides
increase,
countless
citizens
live
every
single
day,
not
sure
when
they're
going
to
be
the
next
Target
since
2019
the
office
of
violence
prevention
and
the
Philadelphia
anti-drug
anti-violence
Network,
which
is
pan
for
short,
have
worked
in
Partnerships
who
address
these
Majors
within
our
community
Through.
N
The
City's
community
Crisis
Intervention
Program,
which
is
also
called
ccip
and
I,
just
want
to
add
the
caveat
that
obviously,
at
that
point,
the
office
of
the
victim
Advocate
did
not
exist.
So
those
two
offices
were
working
in
Partnership
to
try
to
solve
this
problem.
Part
of
what
ccip
does
is
provides
temporary
relocation
services
to
those
who
are
experiencing
imminent
danger.
The
services
provide
are
provided
very
depending
on
what
the
family
needs.
As
Miss
love
was
indicating.
N
We
can't
assume
what
a
family
needs
in
any
particular
moment,
and
so
we
actually
interface
with
that
family
so,
depending
on
what
their
needs
are,
will
determine
what
services
are
deployed
since
the
office
of
the
victim
Advocate
opened
in
early
2022,
we've
received
multiple
requests
for
relocation,
mostly
in
the
spring
I'll
say
from
people
who
are
experiencing
the
threat
of
gun
violence.
However,
my
office
did
not
have
any
formal
program
structure
or
funding
allocated
for
this
particular
purpose.
N
N
Relocating
community
members
experiencing
imminent
danger
from
gun
violence,
so,
like
I,
was
saying
those
funds
are
obviously
utilized
depending
on
the
family,
depending
on
what
they
need,
but
obviously
to
create
or
to
provide
rather
life-sustaining
needs.
So
housing,
clothing,
food
Transportation
things
of
the
sort
home
fortifying
signatures
like
security
window
repairs,
and
things
like
that,
while
those
funds
have
been
used
to
provide
temporary
relocation,
the
community
needs
obviously
extend
beyond
that,
while
building
the
foundation
for
my
office,
the
need
for
relocation
funds
was
very
apparent
to
me.
N
So
earlier
this
year,
I
was
contacted
by
councilman
bro
about
various
families
who
needed
supporting
systems
and
I'm
sorry
support
and
services,
and
even
within
that
very
exchange,
it
became
apparent
to
me
that
we
did
not
have
a
program
that
existed
that
could
meet
their
needs.
We
had
this
pot
of
money
that
again
predated
my
office,
but
we
didn't
have
any
way
to
deploy
those
services
in
a
way
that
makes
any
sense,
even
figuring
out
who
those
families
were,
is
something
that
I'm
still
trying
to
figure
out.
N
Those
temporary
relocation
Services
and,
like
I
said
even
in
that
exchange,
it
became
apparent
that
we
needed
some
thing
to
do
case
management.
We
need
a
referral
system.
We
needed
someone
to
track
the
progress
of
what's
happening
so
that
the
ball
does
not
get
dropped,
which
is
exactly
what
we're
talking
about,
but
without
creating
any
systems
and
structures,
we're
not
doing
anything
to
actually
solve
the
problem.
Who
is
going
to
manage
the
move?
Who
was
going
to
make
sure
it
happened?
N
Who
was
going
to
contact
the
families
on
the
back
end
to
make
sure
they're?
Okay?
Who
is
going
to
make
sure
that
whatever
situation
we
put
them
in,
they
could
sustain
it
and
they
wouldn't
end
up
back
in
the
same
situation.
They
were
fleeing.
Who
was
going
to
be
that
person
based
on
identifying
those
needs
and
I'll
just
go
back
again
to
that
very
particular
situation.
The
the
conversations
that
I've
had
with
those
families.
It
became
very
clear
that
they
needed
something
additional.
N
They
needed
credit
repair,
they
needed
someone
who
was
going
to
a
property
management,
a
company
or
a
landlord
that
was
going
to
be
willing
to
work
with
their
particular
circumstances.
They
needed
some
type
of
income
beyond
the
point
in
which
we
would
be
in
their
lives.
So
that
way
they
could
sustain
whatever
move
we
were
able
to
make
for
them,
that's
bigger
than
temporary
relocation.
That's
something
that
requires
more
structure,
that's
something
that
requires
someone
to
follow
up.
That
requires
someone
to
form
necessary
contracts.
N
That
requires
someone
to
make
the
partnership
connections
between
the
community-based
organizations
between
City
agencies
like
PHA
and
things
of
the
sort
to
make
sure
there's
an
entire
system.
That's
in
place
to
support
this
person.
We're
not
just
saying
here
here-
goes
some
money
go
figure
it
out
for
yourself,
because
that's
not
acceptable
either.
N
So
we're
currently
in
the
interview
process
for
a
dedicated
relocation
specialist
we're
at
the
tail
under
that
process.
We've
identified
candidates
and
that
person
will
be
charged
with
identifying
the
services
creating
the
contracts,
building,
the
programs
building
the
Partnerships
with
all
the
community
agencies
and,
if
we're
going
to
contract
with
them,
to
provide
specific
Services
overseeing
what
that
looks
like.
N
N
So.
The
program
is
built
with
the
spirit
of
continual
care
for
philadelphians,
and
it's
in
recognition
that
resources
without
strategy
or
proper
planning
or
systems
in
place
is
really
just
throwing
money
at
a
problem
with
no
hope
of
ever
solving
that
problem
and
since
I've
come
into
this
conversation
at
the
top
of
this
year.
It
was
very
apparent
to
me
that
those
systems
that
structure
was
lacking,
and
that
is
something
we
absolutely
need
if
we
seek
to
use
any
pot
of
money
to
solve
this
problem.
So
I.
A
Another
thing
I
wish
to
add
is
that
you
know
throughout
this
whole
entire
process.
You
know
any
and
everyone
that
was
referred
to
us.
You
know
we.
We
did
provide
some
type
of
care.
You
know
whether
it
was
temporary
relocation,
as
you
know,
and
trying
to
take
away
the
immediate
need
of
the
media
emergency,
which
sometimes
happens
at
two
o'clock
in
the
morning.
A
You
know,
as
we
we've
talked
about
before
you
know,
but
the
system
is
so
important
and
what
you
and
one
thing
that
you
said
chair
councilman,
is
that
we
need
to
get
together
literally
in
a
room,
and
we
need
to
walk
this
process
through
every
single
step
as
Shantae
as
love
said
earlier,
some
people
don't
want
to
be
relocated,
but
they
need
their
house
repaired.
You
know
we
buy
refrigerators,
we,
you
know
put
Windows
in
so
there
is
a
lot
of
need
that
doesn't
involve
relocation
but
falls
under
the
same
realm.
A
So
I
think
that
needs
to
be
a
part
of
the
conversation
it
really
does
again,
but
connecting
the
dots
is
very
important.
People
can
say
you
know
that
you
know
they've
called
or
they've
reached
out,
but
if
it
doesn't
get
to
where
it
needs
to
get
to,
then
it
falls
in
that
black
hole.
But
again,
I
can
honestly
say
that
every
call
and
I
say
every
call
that
has
come
into
our
office
has
been
addressed
and
the
need
has
been
met.
You
know,
thank
you.
N
And
I'm
sorry,
council,
member,
if
I,
could
just
add
one
last
comment.
Thank
you
so
the
the
necessary
Partnerships
that
I've
identified
that
would
be
necessary
to
build
this
system
kind
of
piggybacking,
on
which
I
know
I
was
indicating.
Is
the
school
district
to
make
sure
that
children
are
able
to
be
moved
quickly
and
I've
already
began?
N
Building
that
partnership,
credit
repair,
a
property
management
company,
a
contract
with
a
moving
company,
Counseling
Services
job
Readiness
utility
providers
and
also
the
Philadelphia
Housing
Authority,
because
there
are
some
folks
that
can
be
relocated
within
their
mechanisms,
so
those
are
Partnerships
that
we've
identified
and
also
the
Sheriff's
Office
piggybacking
off
the
conversation
we
had
earlier
this
year
so
secure
to
ensure
secure
moves.
So
those
are
just
some
of
the
Partnerships
that
we've
identified.
N
That
would
be
helpful
to
building
out
a
holistic
program
that
meets
people
where
they
are
provides,
what
they
actually
need,
not
what
we
assume
they
need,
but
also
create
some
sustainability
within
their
lives.
So
they're
not
catapulted
right
back
into
the
situation
of
violence
they
left.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
testimony
and
I'm
going
to
agree
one
one
thing:
I'm
gonna
reiterate
what
I
said
in
the
beginning,
I
think
matter
of
fact:
no
I
know
that
the
people
that
are
testifying
today
have
a
willingness,
a
sincere
intention
to
fix
this
problem.
What
I
sense
in
my
now
experience
is
that
the
system
is
broken
and
we
need
to
not
not
point
fingers
at
anybody.
B
We
can
fix
it,
and
so
what
I'm
hoping
to
do
from
this
hearing
is
to
entice
a
community
college
and
work
St,
Joe's,
University
or
training
for
that
matter,
Lincoln,
whoever
to
sit
us
in
a
room
to
start
to
do
two
things:
one:
how
do
we
stop
the
immediate?
How
do
we
solve
the
immediate
problem,
which
is
Public
Safety,
getting
witnesses
protected
and
relocated,
but
the
second
part
of
what
I'm
hearing
is
that
stabilization
aspect.
So
after
you,
the
court
case
is
done.
B
How
do
we
get
their
life
right
so
that
they
don't
wind
up
in
the
same
circumstances
that
they
found
themselves?
So
it's
a
two-pronged
two-step
approach
to
this
one
is
more
immediate.
The
other
is
longer
and
more
long-lasting,
so
we
we
have
to
figure
it
out.
It's
not
gonna,
be
easy,
but
I
think
I
sense,
there's
a
willingness
to
fix
it
and
are
there
any
questions
for
members
on
the
committee
Mr.
H
Okay,
because
what
I
want
to
know
is
this
a
pass-through:
are
we
putting
500
000
to
immediately
move
we're
not
buying
refrigerators,
we're
not
buying
air
conditioners,
we're
not
replacing
Windows
we're
moving
people
who
are
subject
to
being
killed
because
they're
being
shot
at
right
now
and
it's
taken
two
years
to
even
figure
this
out,
which
is
why
we,
we
were
engaged
in
a
conversation
with
Shantae
love,
Amir
and
the
other
providers.
They
are
moving
people
immediately.
B
H
H
H
H
G
B
F
Bass,
thank
you
so
so,
just
listening
to
the
testimony
this
morning
and
just
listening
to
my
colleague,
councilman
David
O,
who
has
been
on
this
issue
for
a
long
time,
you
know
it
just
brings
me
to
the
mindset
that
you
know
listen
as
public
servants.
People
really
do
depend
on
us
to
be
able
to
solve
this
crisis.
F
So
I
so
I
just
want
to
put
the
ball
back
in
our
court
and-
and
you
know,
councilman
I-
think
that
I
know
that
you
Councilman
Kenyatta
Johnson
councilman.
Oh
all
of
us
have
had
these
concerns
for
a
very
long
time,
and
if,
if
we're
not
able
to
do
it
with
the
apparatus
that
we
have,
then
we
need
to
figure
something
out,
because
these
funds
have
to
begin
hitting
the
people
who
need
them.
The
most
thank.
B
C
C
B
B
Is
that
all
right
with
you?
Member
of
yes,
thank
you
very
much
so
at
this
point
we
will
reassess
to
the
call
of
the
chair
to
continue
this
hearing
to
get
insight.
The
only
other
thing
that
I
will
say
is
that
we
will
get
to
that
bottom
of
this,
but
we
will
also
look
to
establish
a
way
to
Better
Build
A
system
that
does
better
service
delivery.
That
includes
boots
on
the
ground
and
people
that
that
do
it
in
the
community.
With
that,
thank
you
all
for
your
time.