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From YouTube: Committee on Public Safety 2-24-21
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The Committee on Public Safety of the Council of the City of Philadelphia held a Public Hearing on Wednesday, February 24, 2021, at 10:00 AM, in a remote manner using Microsoft® Teams to hear testimony on the following items:
200487 Resolution authorizing the Committee on Public Safety to hold hearings on the scourge of vehicular hit and run incidents in Philadelphia, to give voice to victims and their families, and seek solutions to reduce and then eliminate this problem from our City.
B
A
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
understand
that
state
law
currently
requires
that
the
following
announcement
be
made
at
the
beginning
of
every
remote
public
hearing
as
follows.
Due
to
the
current
health
crisis
city
council
committees
are
meeting
remotely.
We
are
using
microsoft
teams
to
make
this
remote
hearing
possible
instructions
for
how
the
public
can
view
and
offer
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committees
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in
the
public
hearing,
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that
are
published
in
the
daily
news,
inquirer
and
legal
intelligencer
prior
to
the
hearing,
and
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also
be
found
on
phl
counsel,
dot
com.
A
Everyone
who
has
been
invited
to
the
meeting
to
testify
should
be
aware
that
this
public
hearing
is
being
reported
and
because
this
hearing
is
being
recorded,
participants
and
viewers
have
no
reasonable
expectation
of
privacy.
By
continuing
to
be
in
the
meeting,
you
are
consenting
to
being
recorded
additionally
prior
to
councilman
jones,
recognizing
members
for
questions
or
comments
they
may
have
for
witnesses.
A
B
You
thank
you,
miss
williams,
and
will
you
please
call
the
roll
and
will
those
members
in
attendance,
please
say
a
few
words
and
say
present
so
that
your
image
may
appear
on
the
screen.
C
Good
morning,
colleagues,
good
morning,
mr
chairman,
I'm
present.
F
Good
morning,
council,
chair
and
good
morning,
colleagues,
looking
forward
to
this
important
conversation.
A
B
I
am
president
and
thank
you
and
good
morning
to
all
members
and
the
viewing
audience
I
want
to
thank
you
for
being
on
the
committee.
A
quorum
is
present
and
we
will
begin
the
hearing.
Miss
williams.
Will
you
please
read
the
title
of
the
resolution.
A
B
Thank
you
before
we
begin
testimony
I'd
like
to
recognize
the
author
of
this
resolution,
member
thomas
to
kick
us
off
and
and
talk
about
the
purpose
of
this
very
important
resolution.
C
Good
morning,
mr
chair
and
good
morning
to
everybody,
that's
part
of
this
conversation
today.
I
just
want
to
say
first
and
foremost
thank
you
to
councilmember
jones,
as
well
as
the
other
members
of
council,
including
my
staff,
as
well
as
his
staff
for
putting
together
this
hearing
today
to
have
what
we
feel
like
is
an
important
conversation
about
an
issue.
C
That's
not
getting
enough
tension,
I'm
currently
right
now
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
on
and,
unfortunately,
we
have
a
number
of
different
issues
that
we
face
on
a
consistent
basis,
which
is
led
by
this
pandemic.
This
unfortunate
coronavirus
crisis,
but
you
know,
as
a
council
body,
we
talk
all
the
time
about
the
different
concerns
that
we
have
across
our
city
and
one
of
the
issues
that
is
just
not
getting
the
attention
that
we
know
it
deserves.
C
Is
this
issue
of
hitting
runs
specifically
hitting
runs
that
lead
to
a
fatality,
so
today
we're
hoping
to
have
a
robust
conversation.
I'm
glad
that
I
have
so
many
of
my
colleagues
specifically
district
council
members
on
a
call,
because
we
know
that
this
conversation
is
going
to
have
something
to
do
with
infrastructure
and
addressing
infrastructure
needs
in
our
city.
Right
now,
in
the
city
of
philadelphia,
50
of
the
people
in
our
city
essentially
commute
every
single
day
compared
to
other
large
cities.
C
That
number
is
extremely
high
and
we're
talking
about
people
who
commute
by
themselves
and
that's
a
stat
that
essentially
impacts
traffic.
We
see
80
of
our
car
accidents
here
in
the
city
of
philadelphia,
have
been
only
on
12
of
our
actual
roads.
So
while
we
recognize
it's
a
citywide
problem,
we
also
understand
that
it's
not
a
problem
that
exists
on
every
road
and
on
every
street.
C
C
2020,
though,
was
specifically
a
disturbing
year,
if
you
think
about
again
the
fact
that
the
year
was
highlighted
by
the
unfortunate
coronavirus
crisis,
the
fact
that
we
had
to
spend
a
lot
of
time
home
is
actually
extremely
alarming
to
know
that
we
had
a
70
increase,
78
increase
as
it
relates
to
hitting,
runs
and
hitting
runs
that
lead
to
a
fatality.
C
We
know
that
one
in
four
car
crashes
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
ended
a
hit
and
run,
and
we've
seen
over
200
increase
in
accidents
in
certain
sections
in
certain
districts
here
in
the
city
of
philadelphia,
and
so
when
we
know
that
we
see
more
deaths
in
2020
than
what
we've
seen
in
over
a
decade
because
of
car
accidents.
We
know
that
there
have
been
a
number
of
reports
and
concerns
from
constituents
across
the
city
as
it
relates
to
this
issue.
C
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
everybody
for
participating
in
today's
robust
conversation,
and
I
look
forward
to
not
just
listening
to
the
concerns,
but
also
disgusting,
discussing
possible
solutions
that
we
can
implement
to
begin
to
address
this
issue.
So
what
started
as
a
streets
and
services
issue
quickly
turned
into
a
public
safety
issue,
and
that's
what
brought
us
here
today.
So
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
to
thank
you
to
everybody
for
participating
in
today's
conversation.
B
Remember
thomas,
thank
you
for
your
insight
for
sight
to
bring
this
to
council's
attention
and,
more
importantly,
come
up
with
solutions
to
address
this
problem.
With
that
samantha
williams,
would
you
pre,
please
read
the
names
of
the
perspective
first
panel
to
testify
on
resolution
number
two:
zero
zero.
Four,
eight
seven.
F
Jim
good
morning,
everybody
it
doesn't
look
like
like
my
video
is
working,
so
I
apologize
for
that,
but
I
wanted
just
to
thank
the
the
sponsor
of
the
resolution
for
this
important
conversation
and,
in
particular,
just
wanted
to
note
the
importance
of
this
work,
and
you
know
we
will
be
hearing
from
a
number
of
city
agencies
and
others
who
will
be
talking
about
this.
But
I
really
just
appreciate
council
member
thomas
for
focusing
in
on
this
issue.
F
When
we
first
came
in
in
2016
2017,
we
had
long
talked
about
the
importance
of
focusing
in
on
hit
and
runs,
particularly
in
the
immediate
area.
Within
a
quarter
mile
of
a
school
we've
been
working
on
problematic
issues
such
as
massive
numbers
of
vacancies
in
school
crossing
guards
and
seen
accidents
happen
during
school
hours
at
intersections,
where
you
can
see
in
some
places
five
different
roads
converging
together
in
a
high-speed
area
and
watching
as
middle
schoolers,
bring
their
kindergartner
or
primary
grade
siblings,
along
with
them
to
navigate
those
streets.
F
There's
no
question
that
the
city
needs
to
invest
both
its
thinking
and
its
capital
into
real
investments
that
address
that
address
this
issue.
We
have
already
done
a
tremendous
amount
of
work
through
knowing
what
what
can
be
possible
through
vision,
zero
partnerships
with
some
of
the
organizations
that
are
going
to
be
speaking
today
and
most
of
all
by,
I
think,
uplifting
the
voices
of
individuals
and
families
who
themselves
have
been
huge
advocates
on
taking
some
serious
solutions
to
this.
So
I
just
want
to
thank
the
council
sponsor.
B
Thank
you,
member
again,
okay,
we're
the
first
individuals
to
testify
state
your
name
for
the
record,
and
please
begin
your
testimony.
H
Good
morning
mark
overweight,
good
morning,
councilman
chairman
jones
and
members
of
the
philadelphia
city
council
on
the
committee
of
public
safety.
My
name
is
mark
overweight.
I'm
a
captain
of
the
philadelphia
police
department.
I've
been
a
police
officer
for
29
years,
I'm
currently
assigned
as
the
commanding
officer
of
the
accident
investigation
district.
The
position
that
I
have
held
for
the
last
three
years-
and
I
wish
to
thank
councilman
thomas
for
inviting
me
here
before
you
today
to
testify
about
this
important
issue.
H
H
Every
year
an
average
of
58
000
traffic
crashes
are
reported
to
the
philadelphia
police
department
and
yearly.
The
accident
investigation
district
investigates
about
2
300,
and
we
also
process
about
3
100
dui
arrests.
As
the
councilman
mentioned.
Last
year,
we
experienced
a
76
percent
increase
in
traffic
deaths
from
2019
to
2020..
H
H
For
100
years,
the
philadelphia
police
department
has
carried
the
responsibility
of
investigating
motor
vehicle
crashes
as
part
of
the
larger
picture
of
overall
public
safety,
and
will
continue
to
play
a
primary
role
in
investigating
analyzing,
reducing
and
preventing
crime
and
traffic
collisions
over
the
last
20
years.
The
capacity
of
aid
has
been
reduced
by
one-fifth,
while
the
annual
traffic
fatality
rate
is
maintained,
relatively
stable,
a
desire
for
streets
to
be
safer
from
violent
crime
and
traffic
injuries
and
deaths
is
something
that
we
all
share.
However,
the
police
department's
ability
to
hold
drivers
accountable
is
miniscule.
H
The
reality
is
that
aid
lacks
the
capacity
to
investigate
and
follow
up
on
the
majority
of
the
reported
crashes,
and
the
result
is
clearly
visible.
It's
demonstrated
by
the
willingness
of
drivers
to
engage
in
dangerous,
aggressive,
careless
and
sometimes
even
reckless
behaviors
throughout
the
narrow
streets
of
our
neighborhoods,
and
then
they
leave
the
scene
of
the
crash
because
the
consequences
are
nil.
H
H
I
Captain
overweight,
I
think
I
think
we're
still
seeing
your
window
explore
not
the
presentation
itself.
B
That
I've
seen
maps
but
they're
very
small.
H
I
apologize
if
miss
williams,
if
you
can
help
me
out,
if
you
have
a
copy
of
this
presentation,
I
can
tell
you
how
to
advance
the
slides.
H
B
H
A
H
H
Slide
slide
number
nine.
There
we
go
the
map
on
the
right.
That's
a
density
map
that
uses
bolder
colors
to
demonstrate
increases
in
density,
higher
densities,
so
2020
had
a
lower
year
overall
for
it
in
five
years
for
hit-and-run
crashes,
but
an
increase
in
the
most
serious
crashes,
which
were
crashes
involving
injuries
or
towing.
Next
slide.
Please.
H
H
The
next
slide
shows
the
same
five-year
period,
showing
only
the
hit-and-run
crashes
with
injury
or
telling
that
the
most
severe
ones,
and
that's
the
one
that's
highlighted
in
the
table
there
again
notice
the
where
the
circles
are
where
the
increased
densities
are.
The
next
slide
over
58
000
traffic
crashes
are
reported
to
the
philadelphia
police
department.
As
councilman
thomas
has
said,
one
in
every
four
is
a
hit
and
run
meaning
that
it's
underscores
the
need
for
enhanced
investigative
capabilities
that
at
the
police
department,
can
hold
drivers
more
accountable.
H
3744
describes
the
duties
of
a
driver
who
was
involved
in
a
crash
simply
stated:
the
duties
are
to
remain
a
location
report,
the
crash
and
render
aid,
and
those
last
two
can
be
accomplished
by
calling
9-1-1
section.
37-43
relates
to
crashes
involving
unoccupied
vehicles,
for
property,
section
37-45
relates
to
crashes,
involving
occupied
vehicles,
with
property,
without
injuries
and
section
3742
releases
crashes,
involving
injury
or
death,
and
on
the
next
slide
we
have
the
penalties,
and
these
are
motor
vehicle
code
penalties.
H
So
if
the
crash
involves
a
death,
it's
a
felony
in
a
second
degree,
there's
a
minimum
term
of
imprisonment
of
not
less
than
three
years
of
mandatory
minimum
five
of
25
years.
If
the
crash
involves
serious
bodily
injury,
then
it's
a
felony.
In
the
third
degree,
prison
is
not
less
than
90
days,
the
minimum
fine
of
a
thousand
dollars.
Otherwise,
a
violation
of
this
section
is
a
misdemeanor
first
degree
for
questions
that
involve
damage
to
occupied
vehicles
or
property.
H
H
notice,
the
percentage
of
hit
and
run
fatalities,
how
they
increase
from
2019
to
2020..
It's
a
211
percent
increase
in
hit
and
run
fatalities.
Somehow
we
managed
to
increase
our
solvability
rate,
but
that
rate
is
still
low.
The
next
slide,
please
maps
on
this
slide
depict
violent
crime
and
traffic
crashes
compared
to
one
another.
For
the
first
three
quarters
of
2019
and
for
2020.
H
across
the
top
is
2019
and
you'll
notice
that
the
density
of
violent
crimes
and
the
density
of
crashes
with
injuries
are
very
similar
on
both
ears.
Again,
it's
one
on
the
right
side:
it's
shooting
victims
again,
the
same
neighborhoods
are
affected
by
crime
and
crashes,
and
this
pattern
is
predictable.
The
next
slide,
please.
H
H
And
those
districts
only
sold
modest
or
minor
decreases
in
in
the
violent
crime
category,
so
the
next
slide
uses
maps
that
you
know
boulder
colors,
that
demonstrate
increased
density
and
there
are
four
categories
here.
However,
when
you
look
at
the
color
and
where
the
densities
are
concentrated,
the
maps
are
again
almost
indistinguishable
from
one
another.
The
next
slide.
I
reveal
the
categories
for
you
to
tell
you
that
from
left
to
right
they
are
traffic
crashes,
minority
population
hit
and
run
crashes
and
violent
crime.
H
It's
clear
that
the
same
neighborhood
that
experience
violent
crime
and
have
a
severe
traffic
safety
problem
are
the
same
areas
where
minority
residents
are
concentrated
and
using
this
data
and
other
data,
a
plan
or
strategy
can
be
developed
to
address
growth
problems
simultaneously.
The
next
slide
is
one
example.
H
This
model
was
piloted
here
in
2012
and
in
2012
we
saw
a
38
decrease
in
crime
and
a
15
decrease
in
traffic
crashes
in
the
areas
targeted
for
the
pilot,
and
I
think
those
are
results
that
we
could
all
love
to
see
today.
This
is
a
model
that
is
based
on
statistical
data.
It's
not
based
on
traditional
people
based
police
models.
H
The
next
slide,
please,
with
respect
to
hit
and
run
crashes.
There
are
a
few
more
items
that
are
worth
mentioning
and,
according
to
the
triple
a
foundation
for
traffic
safety,
their
research
drivers
involved
in
hit
and
run
fatalities
are
more
likely
to
be
young
males
and
have
a
history
of
prior
dui
offenses
and
license
suspension.
H
H
Arrest
counter
measure
this,
the
accident
investigation
conducts
several
dui
enforcement
activities
throughout
the
year.
These
are
funded
by
the
national
highway
trade
traffic
and
safety
administration
administered
by
penndot
next
slide
has
other
hit
and
run
counter
measures.
Kevin's
law
was
signed
by
governor
corbett
in
2014,
which
increased
the
mandatory
minimum
sentence
from
one
year
to
three
year
for
leaving
the
scene
of
a
crash
with
the
fatality.
H
H
Senator
anthony
williams
last
year
introduced
senate
bill
54,
which
would
require
investigating
law
enforcement
agencies
to
alert
the
vehicle
repair
facilities
in
pennsylvania
via
a
system
developed
by
penndot
and
senate
bill.
55
would
expand
the
current,
amber
alert
system
to
include
hit
and
run
advisories,
which
are
com
also
known
as
j
alerts.
H
Next
slide,
please
enhance
investigative
capabilities
for
the
accident.
Investigation
district
require
more
resources
in
a
way
of
staffing
equipment.
I
proposed
to
increasing
the
staff
of
aid
from
the
current
36
officers
and
supervisors
to
53
officers
and
supervisors,
so
that
the
unit
can
divide
the
investigative
tasks
and
assign
special
investigators
to
the
most
serious
crashes.
The
line
platoon
investigators
can
investigate
the
less
serious
crashes
and
handle
the
dui
offenses.
H
This
increase
would
be
equal
to
eight
more
than
what
we
had
in
and
that's
the
table
on.
The
the
far
left
is
our
distribution
of
2
000.
on
the
right
is
our
actual
distribution
in
black,
and
the
proposed
distribution
of
blue
aid
would
also
benefit
and
perform
more
efficiently
with
improvements
in
technology,
forensic
mapping
and
enhanced
response
equipment
are
some
of
the
examples
that
we're
exploring
to
acquire
via
funding
from
grant
sources.
H
H
H
H
B
Your
testimony,
if
it's
okay
with
the
committee,
I
don't
think
we
should
continue
to
the
next
person
to
testify.
There
was
a
lot
of
information
given
if
it's
okay,
maybe
we
can
kind
of
do
a
q.
A
now
is
that
all
right
with
the
rest
of
the
committee.
B
Hearing
no
opposition,
I
assume
it's
okay,
you
gave
us
a
lot
and
some
stats
jumped
out
at
me
what
percentage
of
hit
and
runs
or
crashes
that
are
serious
are
the
result
of
someone
fleeing
the
scene
of
a
crime
or
in
a
carjacking.
H
I'm
sorry
castle
and
I
don't
have
that
information
that
is
an
interesting
subject
I'll
make
a
note
of
it
and
try
and
get
it
to
you.
But
that's
I
don't
know
how
easy
it
would
be
to
obtain
that
information,
especially
when
you
consider
that
leaving
the
scene
crashes
are
very
difficult
to
solve.
To
begin
with.
B
H
B
All
right,
remember
thomas:
would
you
like
to
pursue
questions.
C
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
sergeant
sergeant
right.
I'm
sorry,
I'm
sorry,
captain
overwatch
for
being
here
today
and
being
a
part
of
this
conversation,
just
a
few
questions
to
get
your
opinion
on
some
things
and
to
kind
of
maybe
do
a
deeper
dive.
C
In
the
midst
of
the
presentation,
there
were
some
parallels
drawn
between
social,
economic,
socioeconomic
status,
gun
violence
and
some
of
the
car
accidents
that
we've
seen,
I'm
wondering
considering
that
one
in
four
are
hitting
runs
and
we're
not
doing
a
good
job
solving
a
lot
of
the
crimes
that
we
face.
Why
do
we
feel
like
social
economic
status,
actually
plays
a
role
in
this
again
when
number
one
we're
not
solving
a
lot
number
two,
a
lot
aren't
being
reported
as
well
too.
C
So
we
know
that
there's
an
issue
as
far
as
reporting
hit
and
runs,
but
then
we
also
know
that
there's
an
issue
as
far
as
solving
them.
So
I'm
wondering
what
that
parallel
has
to
do
with
some
of
the
information
that
was
presented
today
because,
like
councilmember
jones
said
it
was
a
lot.
I
think
it
was
a
lot
of.
It
was
a
lot
of
times.
H
Yeah,
so
that
that
particular
piece
was
what
I
gave
you
from
the
triple
a
research,
and
let
me
get
the
title
for
you:
the
aaa
foundation
on
traffic
safety
conducted
research
several
years
ago,
and
that
is
one
of
the
things
that
they
found
is
that
the
driver
who
was
likely
to
leave
the
scene
of
a
fatal
crash
involved,
a
young
male
who
was
at
a
lower
socioeconomic
status.
We
drove
an
older
model
vehicle
and
tended
to
have
a
bloody
alcohol
contact
at
the
time
of
the
crash.
H
C
Well,
thank
you
captain.
I
appreciate
that,
but
you
know
it's
important
for
us
to
put
information
on
the
record
and
that's
something
that
jumped
out
to
be
so.
I
just
want
to
go
ahead
and
push
back
on
that
narrative
first,
because
we
we
do
have
a
lot
of
inconclusive
information
that
we
can
all
agree.
C
That's
out
there
as
we
look
to
study
this
issue,
you
said
that
28
we
had
28
fatalities
last
year,
which
again
is
unfortunate
and
I'm
I
can
only
imagine
what
it
means
to
be
on
the
scenes
and
talk
to
those
parents
and
other
folks
involved
in
the
losses.
How
many
of
those
28
fatalities
led
to
an
actual
arrest
of
a
suspect.
H
The
28
hit
and
run
fatalities
have
been
solved,
not
actually
led
to
an
arrest
yet
because
in
some
of
them
we
are
waiting
for
arrest
warrants,
but
it
was
36
percent.
If
I
have
it
correctly,.
C
H
That's
okay:
the
total
hit
and
run
fatalities,
28
of
them.
So
there's
28
total
hit
and
run
fatalities.
I
confused
myself
there
we
stopped
36
of
them.
C
36
of
the
28.
okay.
So,
okay,
that's
what
that's!
That's!
That's
what
I'm
asking
I
I
do
have
other
questions
mr
chair,
can
I
can
I
just.
Can
I
see
other
colleagues
that
queued
up,
because
I
want
to
shift
directions
a
little
bit
in
my
next
series
of
questions
so
I'll
pass
it
to
my
colleagues,
but
I
definitely
would
love
to
come
back
to
ask
captain
overwatch
just
a
few
more
questions
about
some
infrastructure
stuff.
B
That'll
be
fine.
Member
thomas
chair
recognizes
member
goodyear.
E
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
I
also
wanted
to
thank
and
commend
council
member
thomas
for
having
this
hearing.
It's
a
really
important
topic
that
we
have
to
dig
into
as
a
city
captain
overwise.
I
really
appreciated
the
data
that
you
showed
that
aligned.
You
know
a
lot
of
what
we're
seeing
in
terms
of
traffic
safety
and
traffic
incidents
with
gun
violence.
It
was
striking
to
see
it
that
way
from
you
know
a
hard
data
perspective,
because
anecdotally,
that's
what
we're
finding
in
our
district,
we
have
probably
a
list
of
requests.
E
You
know
60
blocks
long,
at
least
for
safety
interventions
in
the
same
areas
where
we're
experiencing
very
high
levels
of
gun
violence,
and
I
just
hope
that
you
know.
I
know
that
you're
asking
for
more
resources
for
enforcement,
and
I
definitely
think
that
we
have
to
look
into
enforcement
and
how
we
can
be
better
there.
But
I
also
hope
that,
as
a
city,
we
can
raise
the
priority
level
with
which
we
address
these
neighborhoods
through
infrastructure
improvements.
You
know,
in
my
mind,
these
neighborhoods
that
are
already
under
siege
due
to
gun.
E
Violence
should
be
top
on
the
list
with
with
streets
and
with
otis
in
terms
of
the
traffic
improvements
that
they're
asking
for,
and
I
hope
that
we
can
that
we
can
work
towards
that.
But
thank
you
so
much
for
for
the
data
that
you
showed
it
was
very
illuminating.
E
I
wanted
to
ask
about
a
specific
case,
and
I
I
understand,
if
you
don't
have
the
the
information
with
you
today,
but
one
of
the
reasons
I'm
so
grateful
for
this
hearing
is
that
you
know
what
we
saw
in
2020
played
out
in
a
very
tragic
way
in
the
third
district
avonte
reynolds
25
year
old
mother
was
struck
and
killed
on
cops,
creek
parkway
and
it
was
such
a
tragic
event.
E
It
did
spur
you
know
the
community
and
the
elected
officials
to
in
our
city,
agencies
and
and
state
agencies
to
action.
So
since
that
time,
you
know
my
office
has
worked
with
state
rep,
mcclinton,
senator
williams.
You
know
council,
member
johnson
and
even
our
registered
wills
with
streets
and
penndot
to
get
improvements
out
there
to
the
parkway
pretty
quickly.
But
I
I
have
to
admit
I'm
in
the
dark
about
the
actual
investigation.
E
H
I
can
certainly
follow
up
with
your
office.
We
did
take
custody
of
the
vehicle
that
we
believe
was
involved.
We
lack
enough
information
to
say
for
certain
that
it
was
a
vehicle
that
was
involved,
so
we
still
have
investigative
work
to
do
there
and
in
terms
of
the
infrastructure
I'll
leave
that
to
ms
reynolds.
But
what
I
will
say
is
that,
with
improved
technology,
forensic
mapping,
for
example,
we
can
assist
streets
otis
with
the
data
that
they
need
to
make
those
improvements
in
infrastructure.
E
Okay,
I
get
what
you're
saying,
thank
you
so
much
for
for
your
work
and
for
all
the
information
you
share
today.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
B
G
Much
you
mentioned
the
frequency
of
hit-and-run
vehicular
accidents
amongst
communities
of
color
and
the
correlation
with
increased
gun
violence.
Why
do
you
believe
that
we're
seeing
these
increases
in
both
of
these
crimes
and
evidence.
H
I
wish
I
had
the
answer
to
that
for
you
councilwoman.
What
I
can
say
is
that
they're
linked
by
location,
whatever
it
is
about
those
locations
where
crime
and
traffic
collisions
collide.
We
need
to
investigate
that
and
figure
out
why
and
try
and
find
solutions
to
mitigate
that,
like
I
said,
our
advanced
investigative
capabilities
on
our
end
can
help
with
some
of
that
data,
so
that
research
and
analysis
can
help
the
police,
commissioner
and
deputy
commissioner
develop
solutions
to
address
those
problems.
As
I
said
here
today,
I
wish
I
knew
the
answer
to
that.
H
G
H
G
Because
my
concern
is
like
some
of
the
data
that
can
be
gathered
around
what's
happening
in
communities.
You
know
it
could
be
directly
related
to
a
lot
of
other
things
that
we
see
happening
in
our
communities
that
you
may
be
able
to
get
that
information
from
community
members
when
it
comes
to
safety.
So
I
was
just.
H
And
I
don't
get
the
opportunity
to
communicate
with
a
lot
of
the
district
captains.
They
I'm
sure
they
have
a
lot
of
that
information
that
you
asked
about.
I
don't
get
the
opportunity
to
communicate
with
them
very
much
about
that
again.
Everything
that
I
do
gets
overshadowed
by
the
violence,
the
gun,
violence
and
the
violent
crime.
B
H
That
happens
later
on,
sir,
I
meet
monthly
with
miss
reynolds
and
kelly
even
and
we
go
over
the
fatalities
that
occur
the
month
before,
and
we
discuss
what
contributing
factors
that
we
know
at
the
time
contributed
to
that,
and
that
kind
of
analysis
happens
a
lot
with
otis
from
the
time
we
get
a
call.
My
officers
respond
and
one
of
the
first
things
we
do
after
we
process
the
scene
and
talk
to
any
witnesses
is
to
go
out
and
survey
for
video.
H
That
requires
a
lot
of
legwork
and
a
lot
of
time
and,
as
I
showed
you
with
their
staffing,
to
distribute
the
way,
it
is
sometimes
that's
a
challenge.
I
do
get
help
from
the
divisional
detectives
and
from
the
districts
in
in
that
case,
because
actually
they're
from
more
familiar
with
where
the
video
is
located,
based
on
their
previous
assignments
than
we
are.
So
I
do
get
help
with
that.
B
We
start
so
so,
for
example,
it
brought,
I
think,
it's
broad
in
glenwood
every
other
month,
somebody's
hid
there
and
it
it
was
so
bad
that
I
almost
in
one
instance
thought
I
was
hearing
a
old
report
because
the
circumstances
were
very
similar,
it's
and-
and
it's
it.
I
think,
the
time
of
day
would
matter
so
like
if
it's
two
in
the
morning
and
people
tend
to
think
they're.
The
only
one
on
the
highway
that
that
that
should
matter
weather
conditions
should
matter
whether
or
not
traffic
lights
were
operational.
B
Should
matter
whether
or
not
I
heard
you
say,
cameras
could
capture
what
happened
for
for
for
for
investigation
purposes.
That
should
matter.
I
was
wondering
if
there
is
a
standard,
all
right,
fatality,
we're
on
scene
and
maybe
a
10
point
checklist
that
you
have,
which
is
standard,
that
you
can
share.
H
Nothing
I
could
share
with
you.
I
wasn't
prepared
for
that
question.
We
do
have
a
protocol
that
we
follow
for
fatal
crashes.
It's
basically
safer
for
any
crash
that
we
investigate
the
the
fatality
just
means
that
we
we
use
more
resources
in
a
shorter
amount
of
time
to
try
and
solve
that,
especially
when
it's
a
hit
and
run.
B
All
right
would
you
please
at
some
point
provide
that
to
the
chair,
so
I
can
provide
that
to
members
of
this
committee
so
that
as
we
circle
back
on
budget,
we
can
ask
these
questions
again.
Chair
recognizes
member
kim.
F
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chairman.
Captain
overweight.
Could
you
just
clarify
something
that
you
said
earlier?
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
understood
you
clearly.
Did
you
say
that
you
had
some?
You
had
trouble
with
staffing
in
terms
of
reaching
out
to
for
video
camera
camera
footage,
or
are
you
talking
more
about
a
lack
of
video
camera
footage.
H
No,
no.
What
I
was
saying
was
that
the
trying
to
track
down
video
camera
footage.
It
takes
a
lot
of
blade
work
and
it
takes
a
lot
of
time,
especially
when
you
get
one
source
of
video,
then
you
have
to
spider
web
out
to
try
and
get
that
next
source
of
video
and
to
continue
that
chain
until
you
get
a
good
enough
piece
of
video
to
get
a
description
out
there.
One
of
the
better
examples
is
the
crash
that
happened
at
saint,
vincent
and
summerdale
street.
H
I
just
we
just
got
a
twenty
thousand
dollar
reward
approved
for
that
and
we
announced
it
on
the
news
the
other
day
that
required
a
lot
of
leg
work
and
I
actually
got
help
from
the
family
of
cyshang
lin
who
helped
us
with
that.
That
help
was
invaluable
because
again
they
went
and
they
found
video
of
the
person
walking
away,
and
without
that
picture
we
still
don't
have
any
good
tips
on
that.
But
without
that
picture
there
we
would
be
very
hard
pressed
to
solve
that.
F
So
I
just
want
to
clarify,
because
I
know
the
city
is
talking
about
additional
monies
for
for
the
possibility
of
more
surveillance
cameras,
and
is
there
a
feeling
that
if
there
were
city
more
city-funded
cameras
that
would
assist
at
these
high,
you
know
high
high
rate
of
of
you
know
sure,
run
intersections
right.
H
In
areas
where
we
do
see
a
lot,
it
would
help
us
to
put
more
cameras
there,
a
lot
of
times
we
get
unlucky,
because
these
cameras
they
pan
automatically
and
sometimes
we're
lucky,
sometimes
we're
not
lucky.
Sometimes
we
see
the
crash
on
those
city
cameras.
Sometimes
we,
the
camera,
pans
away
right
before
we
see
what
we
need
to
see
in
order
to
get
that
good
information.
F
One
question
that
that
I
also
had
is-
and
I
I
did
and
I'm
sorry
if
I
missed
this,
but
did
you
have
an
analysis
on
time
of
day
for
hit
and
runs?
I
did.
H
Not
break
this
down
by
time,
just
by
location.
We
could
further
break
it
down
by
the
time.
I
can
get
our
research
and
analysis
to
do
that,
so
that
we
get
the
three
eight
hour
periods,
for
example,
to
see
when
they
happen.
That
would
be
helpful.
I
didn't
have
it
for
this
presentation,
but
it's
we
can
get
it.
It's
not
not
a
big
task
to
get.
F
Yeah,
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
a
little
bit
about
whether
if
a
intersection
is
well
known
to
be
unmanned
and
and
to
have
you
know
kind
of
a
lot
of
neglect
around
it,
whether
it
doesn't
really
matter
what
time
of
day
it
is,
it's
just
kind
of
you
know
a
place
where
anything
can
happen,
and
unfortunately
you
know
it
too
frequently
does.
But
I
am
also
interested
in
a
little
bit
about
you
know
some
of
the
time
of
day
issues
and
related
to
that.
F
F
I'll
ask
that
mr
petrolski.
A
Councilman,
that's
matt
white
from
the
police
commissioner's
office.
The
the
school
crossing
guards
are
houses
in
the
police
department,
but
I
I
don't
have
any
information
prepared
on
the
status
of
the
crossing
guard
unit,
but
I'm
happy
to
jot
down
any
specific
questions.
You
have
and
get
your
answers.
F
This
was
my
understanding
that
at
some
point,
the
school
crossing
guard
unit
was
to
transfer
over
into
otis,
because
you
know
this
is
a
long-standing
concern,
though,
that
we've
certainly
brought
in
we
want
when
councilmember
gautier
talks
about
particular
neighborhoods
being
neglected.
One
of
the
things
that
we
recognize
is
that
the
presence
of
adults
within
a
community
and
school
crossing
guards
certainly
count
as
a
you
know,
a
four
to
six
hour
position,
I'm
not
exactly
clear.
It
might
just
be
a
four
hour
position,
but
at
multiple
points
during
the
day.
F
I
actually,
I
think,
it's
a
six
hour
position,
because
it's
two
hours
in
the
morning,
I
think
it
could
be
an
hour
or
so
in
the
middle
of
the
day
and
then
two
hours
at
the
end
of
the
day,
a
regular
presence
of
adult
personnel
and
to
be
clear,
there
are
there's
an
allocation
of
of
well
over
a
thousand
school
crossing
guards
across
the
district.
F
Our
issue
with
the
with
the
police
department
is
that
we
have
traditionally
had
huge
numbers
of
vacancies
at
extremely
dangerous
intersections,
and
so
again,
what
we're
trying
to
underscore
is.
These
are
budgeted
positions
within
the
department.
F
This
is
a
place
for
children.
These
are
a
place
of
families
and
the
routine
and
regular
presence
has
been
a
really
important
issue
for
us.
The
issue
with
the
police
department
is
that
certain
fun.
D
A
Is
that
pay
talent
see
one
moment,
captain
you're
your
mic
is
on
it.
F
You
might
not
be
muted.
One
of
the
issues
is
that
they're,
just
a
huge
number
of
vacancies-
and
so
I
know
there
was
discussion
about
moving
them
to
otis-
would
would
like
to
hear
you
know
a
little
bit
of
feedback
on
that
and
and
again
you
know
where
you
think
the
status
of
of
the
crossing
guards
might
currently
be
within
your
department.
A
Thank
you
councilmember.
I
I
do
agree
that
the
the
school
crossing
guards
are.
A
Sorry,
it's
matthew
white.
Thank
you.
I
I
do
agree
completely.
The
school
crossing
guards
are
a
a
core
part
of
our
communities
and
they,
you
know
a
fixture
in
neighborhoods.
I'm
certainly
happy
to
look
into
both
the
issue
of
the
status
of
where
crossing
guards
will
be
housed
as
a
position
and
also
the
status
of
the
number
of
vacancies
and
and
to
the
extent
that
we
can
break
it
down
by
location
and
if
those
are
also
particularly
dangerous.
A
F
That's
fine.
We've
been
working
on
this
issue
for
a
while
directly
with
commissioner
coulter,
but
we
do
really
want
to
underscore
that
it's
another
area
you
know
to
my
colleagues
about
neighborhoods
that
should
be
supported
should
have
the
presence
of
adults
in
them
and
are
again.
F
You
know
areas
where
we
see
vacancies
and
it
really
does
need
to
be
valued,
and
if
we,
you
know
again,
if
you
know
I
want
to
see
where
the
discussions
are
with
transferring
the
unit
over
to
otis,
if
the
police
department,
you
know
it's
it,
it
just
may
not
be
a
priority,
so
we're
willing
to
acknowledge
that,
but
it
does
need
to
be
taken
care
of
in
other
places
if
it's
not
a
priority
for
the
ppd.
So
thank
you
very
much.
B
Thank
you
remember,
and
those
were
two
important
points
that
I
took
note
of
one
crossing
guards.
We
won
63rd
in
race.
B
There
was
a
hit-and-run
fatality
a
couple
years
back
of
a
tender
age
youth
and
it
was
at
an
intersection
where
there
should
have
been
a
crossing
guard
and
then
the
second
thing
to
underscore
is
time
of
day
what
time
of
night
that
might
be
relevant
if
you're,
looking
at
the
closing
of
bars
and
taverns
and
what
happens
during
those
hours
and
so
much
so
that
you
can
maybe
even
compensate
by
adjusting
the
patterns
of
street
lights,
so
walnut
street
and
chestnut
street
in
the
third
district
are
are
hidden
highways.
B
That
might
be
thought
about
in
that
regard.
So,
anyway,
we're
circling
back
around
to
remember
thomas.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
appreciate
it.
Councilmember
gim
actually
just
talked
about
the
idea
of
more
cameras
and
the
possibility
of
more
cameras.
Helping
can
you
help
us
explain?
We
we've
seen
some
reports
that
talk
about
the
fact
that,
even
when
the
evidence
is
there-
and
you
know,
the
constituent
themselves
is
able
to
gather
evidence
of
a
hit
and
run
that
that
information
still
doesn't
get
investigated.
C
So
can
you
explain
to
us
why
only
five
percent
of
hit
and
run
crashes
are
actually
investigated
and
then
also
if
we
do
increase
the
number
of
cameras
as
far
as
surveillance?
How
will
we
then
be
able
to
address
the
issue
if
we're
only
investigating
about
five
percent
of
hit
and
runs
right
now?
How
can
we
say
cameras
will
help
us
address
this
issue
if,
if
even
when
people
are
sending
us
the
footage
that
they
have
we're
still
not
able
to
offer
viable
consequences,
currently,.
H
You
make
a
good
point
that
people
do
give
us
video
and
sometimes
the
quality
of
the
video
is
not
good
enough
to
get
an
identification,
and
so
it's
not
that
we
don't
investigate.
I
think
the
one
news
report
that
you're
referring
to
the
officers
failed
to
call
my
unit
and
that's
why
we
didn't
investigate
right
away.
However,
we
did
after
we
were
notified
about
it,
but
quality
of
video
is
important
and,
as
I
said
before,
with
the
city
cameras
sometimes
we're
lucky.
H
We
get
that
tag
which
really,
what
we
need
is
the
tag
and
a
good
description
of
the
vehicle
or
driver,
and
that's
the
other
thing
too,
is
that
we
have
to
be
able
to
put
a
specific
driver
behind
the
wheel
of
that
vehicle.
It's
not
enough
to
find
the
vehicle.
I
have
several
vehicles
in
custody
that
we
can't
identify
a
driver
for-
and
you
know
that's
our
next
step.
H
We
have
to
identify
who
was
driving
that
vehicle
at
the
time
of
the
crash
very
difficult,
very
difficult
to
solve
compared
to
violent
crimes
where
often
there's
a
nexus
between
the
actor
and
the
victim
people
meet
in
crashes
by
happenstance.
So
there's
no
connection
between
the
two
parties
and
we
don't
have
anything
to
go
on
investigatively
to
try
and
solve
that.
We
have
to
rely
on
pictures,
good
pictures,
good
video,
good
witnesses
and
solid
identification
before
we
can
get
an
arrest
warrant.
C
So
putting
our
fiscal
hat
on
thinking
about
this
with
a
solution
lens
right.
Are
you
captain
recommending
that
us
as
council
members,
look
at
some
level
of
investment
into
technology
and
cameras,
and
can
you
assure
us
that
a
investment
in
technology
and
cameras
will
put
us
in
a
position
where
we
will
be
able
to
address
this
issue,
because
I
know
this
is
something
that
councilmember
gin
brought
up,
and
I
think
that,
throughout
your
testimony
and
listening
to
your
response
today,
your
suggestion
that
more
cameras
will
help
address
this
issue.
C
But
I
get
I
just
I
don't
know
I
I
don't
know
if
we
have
faith
in
that
particular
position
for
this
problem,
and
I
don't
know
if
we
I
don't
know
if
it
could
be
the
pro
a
solution
or
it
couldn't
be,
but
I
just
want
you
to
go
on
record
with
your
recommendation
as
it
relates
to
a
solution.
Because,
again
I
know
you
talked
about
increasing
staff
from
maybe
36
people
to
53
people,
but
we
want
to
be
innovative
and
creative
as
it
relates
to
how
we
figure
this
stuff
out.
H
H
It's
a
lot
of
equipment,
but
it's
equipment
that
would
help
us
in
a
way
of
solving
the
crashes
and
also
holding
drivers
accountable,
because,
let's
not
forget
we're
talking
about
hit
and
runs,
but
if
we
prevent
all
crashes
or
do
our
best
to
prevent
all
crashes,
we're
going
to
prevent,
hit
and
runs
as
well.
So
what
we
need
to
do
is
get
the
data
to
our
research
and
analysis
team
to
tell
us
how
to
go.
H
Do
that
and
the
way
to
do
that
is
with
enhanced
investigative
capabilities
and
that's
where
the
technology
comes
in
and
right
now
we
use
wheels
and
tape
measures
to
measure
out
a
crime
scene.
We
sketch
them
by
hand
because
we
don't
have
a
forensic
mapping
system
that
can
do
the
work
of
two
people
in
a
matter
a
very
short
period
of
time,
and
that's
what
I
mean
by
force
multiplier.
C
Sure,
thank
you.
I
appreciate
it
so
as
we
look
into
this
idea
of
training,
because
I
know
that
there
was
a
report
that
you
were
part
of
that
talked
about
the
use
of
training
as
it
relates
to
staffing.
What
can
you
elaborate
a
little
bit
more
on
that
as
it
relates
to
training?
Can
you
talk
to
us
a
little
bit
about
who
you
feel
like
should
get
training
and
what
training
can
do
to
address
this
issue?.
H
Okay,
well,
the
members
of
my
unit
have
three
levels
of
training
that
I
have
not
been
able
to
get.
I
had
people
scheduled,
but
the
pandemic
hit
and
everything
got
canceled,
but
there's
three
levels
of
training
and
that's
on
scene
crash
investigation
and
then
there's
technical
analysis
and
then
there's
crash
reconstruction
crash
reconstruction
is
the
most
advanced
form
of
training.
C
I
mean
you
referenced
the
aaa
foundation
earlier
and
I
again
really
want
to
push
back
on
the
social
economic
side,
even
looking
at
the
map
that
you
put
out
there
in
the
midst
of
your
presentation,
I
remember
there
being
a
lot
of
incidents
as
it
relates
to
hitting
runs
and
things
of
that
capacity
in
the
north
philadelphia
area
right
so
thinking
about
north
philadelphia,
for
example,
and
I'm
sure
council
member
guardian
related
to
this
comparison
in
her
district.
C
If
we
have
an
area
like
north
philadelphia
that
we
know
is
populated
with
a
lot
of
college
students,
how
can
we
tie
social
economic
status
to
this
particular
issue,
because
I
think
what
it
begins
to
do
is
when
we
use
stats
like
this.
It
begins
to
kind
of
open
the
door
for
more
illegal
stop
than
frisk
in
the
city
of
philadelphia,
and
I
think
that's
a
significant
problem
that
we
have
as
it
relates
to
our
city.
C
We
do
a
ton
of
stuff
in
first
things,
specifically
people
who
look
like
me,
but
that
method
clearly
is
a
not
addressing
a
gun
violence
issue,
because
we
clearly
still
have
an
epidemic
on
our
hands
and
b,
not
dressing
the
traffic
issue.
Because
again
we
see
more
fatalities
last
year
than
what
we've
seen
in
recent
history.
So
in
the
midst
of
the
research
that
we're
doing
in
the
midst
of
thinking
about
how
do
we
address
this
issue,
I'm
wondering
about
the
racial
and
equity
lens
and
how
those
conversations
are
taking
place.
C
Because,
again
I
can
tell
you
a
personal
narrative
of
someone
who
I
know
who,
unfortunately,
was
hit.
It
led
to
a
fatality
right
outside
the
police
district
at
broughton
godfrey.
I
could
look
at
the
social
economic
status
of
the
people
who
live
in
that
neighborhood.
But
if
you
live
in
that
neighborhood,
you
know
that
people
coming
from
abington
flies
up
and
down
broad
street
all
hours
of
the
night,
and
if
that's
that,
crime
remain
unsolved
because
we
said
36
percent
of
cases
are
solved.
C
But
that
means
that
over
us
over
60
percent
aren't
solved.
64
exactly
aren't
solved.
So
how
can
we
tie?
You
know
social
economic
status
to
something
like
that
when
the
economic
status
in
the
neighborhood
might
be
one
thing,
but
the
person
who
could
have
hit
that
person
could
be
a
millionaire
from
abington
who
was
speaking
from
center
city
going
out
of
town.
So
again,
I
really
just
want
to
push
back
and
hear
your
perspective
captain
as
it
relates
to
how
we
think
about
these
things
through
a
lens
that
has
some
level
of
racial
equity.
H
I
agree
with
you
100
that
the
driver
can
be
from
anywhere
and
one
of
the
things
that
I've
talked
about
with
otis
and
they'll.
Tell
you
the
same
thing
is
we're
trying
to
figure
out
what
zip
codes
that
folks
involved
in
crashes
are
coming
from,
where
they,
where
they
live,
because
it
does
make
a
difference.
It
just
seems
that
where
you
have
neighborhoods
that
are
low
income
and
the
data
shows
that
those
neighborhoods
are
populated
with
minorities.
H
C
So
I
I'm,
I
don't
disagree
with
that
at
all,
and
I
think
that
that
investment
is
significant.
It
should
happen
it's
important,
but
again,
I
think
if
you
look
at
it
through
a
certain
perspective,
what
that
investment
looks
like,
can
look
very,
very
different
right,
like
that
investment
could
be
somewhat
a
predatorial
if
done
the
wrong
way.
C
So
again,
I
just
you
know-
I'm
really
concerned
about
this
issue,
because
what
I
don't
want
us
to
do
is
use
this
as
a
means
and
the
mechanisms
to
over
police
communities
of
color
right
like
we
know
that,
there's
a
gun,
violence
issue
and
we
want
to
do
a
deeper
dive
into
that.
I
would
love
to
because
we're
not
going
to
resolve
the
issue
of
gun
violence
about
over
policing
neighborhoods,
like
that's,
never
going
to
be
a
way
we
resolve
gun
violence.
C
It
could
be
a
way
you
temporarily
stop
some
things
happening
on
a
particular
block
and
in
a
particular
neighborhood,
but
gun
violence
is
a
bigger
symptom
of
other
issues
that
we
have
related
to
poverty,
poor
education
and
a
lack
of
resources
going
into
communities
that
they
didn't
necessarily
get.
So
if
we're
saying
that
we
need
to
invest
in
neighborhoods
to
prevent
these
issues
again,
I
just
don't
want
that
investment
to
happen
through
a
predatorial
list
right.
This
is
a
hearing
that
I
feel
like
is
important.
C
It's
a
conversation
that
I
I
know
we
need
to
have,
but
I
feel
it
moving
into
a
direction
that
I
feel
like
it's
not
advantageous
to
the
people
that
we're
essentially
trying
to
serve.
So
that's
why
I
really
want
to
just
take
a
couple
moments
to
get
some
of
this
stuff
on
the
record,
and
I
understand
captain
that
she
was
just
referencing
one
study,
but
it's
our
job.
C
It's
our
obligation
as
members
of
council
to
kind
of
pay
attention
to
the
detail
and
push
back
on
things
that
could
put
us
in
a
position
where
we
could
hurt
the
same
people
that
we're
trying
to
help.
I
didn't
hear
clear
recommendations,
though,
outside
of
technology,
do
you
have
any
other
clear
recommendations
that
you
feel
like
outside
of
technology
can
put
us
in
a
position
where
we
can
address
this
issue?
I'll,
give
you
an
example.
I
talked
to
a
lot
of
it
actually
councilmember
jones.
C
He
forced
me
to
go
on
a
bike
tour
and
I
probably
should
do
it
again
because
I
need
the
cardio,
but
in
the
midst
of
that
tour,
one
of
the
things
that
they
talked
to
us
about
was
infrastructure
issues
in
cities
right.
So
they
talked
to
us
about
roads
and
neighborhoods
that
we
should
think
about
trying
to
change
as
it
relates
to
how
wide
they
are
because
they
said
when
roads
are
wide
and
there's
not
a
lot
of
lights
or
anything
in
between
people
tend
to
drive
faster.
So
what
are
your
thoughts
on?
C
Maybe
some
infrastructure
investment?
We
said
12
of
the
roads
in
the
city
of
philadelphia,
are
where
the
majority
of
the
crashes
happen.
Has
there
been
any
dialogue
around
some
serious
investment
around
those
12
percent
of
roads
from
an
infrastructure
perspective?
I
understand
the
technology
side,
but
what
do
we
think
of
that?.
B
C
Okay,
I
know
we'll
hear
from
otis
later
but
again
captain
you're
an
expert
right
like
you
talked
about
this
on
news
stations.
You've
been
doing
this
for
decades
now.
You
know
your
opinion
and
your
perspective
on
this
stuff
really
matters.
So,
of
course,
we're
going
to
ask
otis.
You
know
what
they
think
as
far
as
infrastructure
investment,
but
I
think
your
opinion
and
your
perspective
matters
just
as
much
as
there.
So
I
don't
want
you
to
punish
the
oldest
we'll
get
to
them.
They'll
have
some.
H
I'll
try
and
punish
her.
I
just
don't
think
that
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
you
call
me
an
expert,
but
I
don't
think
I'm
an
expert
at
all.
I
just
like
I
said
I've
been
doing
this
in
this
position
for
the
last
three
years.
C
Thank
you
my
last
question
and
then
I
think
we
can
move
on
to
other
council
members.
I
think
they
have
other
questions
too.
We
we
know
that
we
have
traffic
officers
coming
down
the
pipeline
at
some
point
and
we
know
that
those
traffic
officers,
as
of
now
have
a
specific
focus
in
I
believe,
center
city.
What
are
your
thoughts
on
traffic
officers
being
used
as
a
mechanism
as
a
mechanism
to
essentially
address
this?
C
If
you
issue,
if
the
traffic
officer
similar
to
what
council
member
kim
talked
about
earlier,
you
know
had
a
a
lens
that
came
out
of
the
managing
director's
office
or
something
like
that
clearly
weren't,
armed
or
anything
like
that.
But
what
about
innovative
ways
of
of
putting
people
like
that
in
neighborhoods
and
in
places
where
we
see
a
high
density
as
it
relates
to
hitting
runs
and
traffic?
And
things
like
that,
I
would
love
to
hear
your
opinion
on
that
as
well.
Captain.
C
Well,
no,
we
know
that
we
have
traffic
officers
that
are
specifically
going
to
be
focused
on,
I
mean
the
center
city
area.
We
know
that
the
traffic
office
is
going
to
start
in
center
city
and
they're,
going
to
start
with
the
focus
of
addressing
congestion
and
a
lot
of
the
congestion
and
the
traffic
that
we
see
in
center
city.
What
I'm
asking
you
is
if
a
similar
model
right,
these
are
unarmed
people.
These
are
folks
that
are
working
out
of
the
managing
director's
office.
They'll
have
a
different
level
of
training.
C
They'll
come
from
a
totally
different
budget.
What
if
a
similar
model
was
used
in
some
of
these
places,
where
you
talked
about
that
had
areas
of
of
a
high
correlation
of
of
of
traffic
incidents
in
gun
violence
right?
So
what?
If
we
had
a
different
type
of
tactical
person?
Whatever
you
want
to
call
them,
they
could
be
called
traffic
officers,
they
could
be
called
community
liaisons.
I
don't
care
what
you
call
them,
but
what?
C
If
we
took
that
similar
investment
and
put
it
in
these
areas,
where
we
see
a
high
density
incident
specifically
to
areas
that
you
drew?
The
correlation
between
gun
violence
and
high
traffic
incidents.
What
are
your
thoughts
on
that,
and
that
will
be
my
final
question
for
this
witness
mr
chair.
H
I
would
say
that
in
high
crime
areas
that
you
could
use
the
people,
you
just
talked
about
to
displace
the
people
from
center
city
so
that
the
uniformed
officers
could
address
the
problems
in
high
crime
areas
beyond
that,
I'm
not
in
a
position
as
the
captain
of
the
investigation
accident
investigation
here
to
speak
about
that.
That's
a
deployment's
decision.
That's
not
at
my
level.
B
A
Williams,
something
like
that
yeah,
maybe
eight.
G
G
Am
I
clear
that
currently
there's
not
coordination
between
ppd
and
otis
around
solving
hit
and
runs
to
determine
whether
there's
a
correlation
between
traffic
engineering,
the
need
for
speed,
bumps
or
whatever
currently
happening,
because
I'm
thinking
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
my
council
district
council
people,
but
I'm
pretty
sure
they
can
spell
out
high
risk
areas
in
their
districts
and
those
high
risk
areas,
as
an
at
large
person
also
probably
correlate
with
the
request
from
community
members
around
speed,
bumps
school
crossing
signs,
the
need
for
school
crossing
guards
during
the
day,
the
need
for
more
lighting
and
then
the
need
for
I'm
trying
to
think
of
the
fancy
word
the
urban
issues
where
they
have
the
curb
cuts
that
I
only
see
in
center
city
in
west
philly.
G
G
If
coordination
was
not
done
with
otis
around
the
need
for
investments
into
traffic
infrastructure
in
some
of
these
same
areas,
I'm
not
understanding
why
we're
asking
for
a
larger
investment,
or
this
conversation
about
more
technology
when
there
are
other
things
that
has
been
missing
around
infrastructure
in
these
communities
like
the
school
crossing
guards
and
council
member
gim
talked
about,
and
I've
been
on
the
front
line
of
fighting
for
school
crossing
guard
at
the
expressway
at
15th
and
st
luke
right.
G
So
these
are
like
real
live
issues
that
people
from
the
community
can
talk
about,
so
I'm
if
that
hasn't
been
done.
You
know
up
to
this
point.
I'm
kind
of
confused
of
you
know.
What
are
we
talking
about
around
cameras
if
we
haven't
made
the
real
investment
in
these
communities
of
color,
which
are
also
primarily,
you
know
where
increased
gun
violence
is
seen.
That's
why
earlier
I
asked
you
about.
G
You
know
the
correlation
between
the
two,
but
as
I'm
hearing,
I'm
not
hearing
the
connect
between
traffic
safety
and
policing
being
a
solution
to
some
of
these
video
curricular
homicides
and
to
someone
somebody
else
mentioned
about
people
flying
from
the
suburbs.
G
There
was
a
six-pound
pileup
at
throrton,
hudson
park,
which
is
a
high
traffic
area
and
probably
for
hitting
runs,
and
it
was
done
by
someone
from
ben
salem
and
crashed
up
six
cars
of
people
that
live
in
the
neighborhood.
So
what
would
that
investment?
Look?
Like
I
mean
what
would
that
investigation
look
like
because
the
police
never
showed
up
at
the
scene.
H
I'm
not
aware
of
that
particular
incident
that
disturbs
me
that
you
tell
me
that
the
only
thing
I
can
think
of
is
that
my
unit
wasn't
notified,
but
I
have
to
look
into
that.
If
you
give
me
the
date
time
and
location,
I
can
follow
up
on
that
for
you
as
far
as
that,
coordinating
with
otis,
as
I
said
before,
I
meet
with
them
once
a
month
and
we
discuss
all
the
fatal
crashes
that
happened
in
the
months
before,
and
then
we
come
up
with
possible
strategies
and
then
otis
takes
it
from
there.
G
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
member
brooks
member
guardian
and
then
remember
again.
E
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
didn't
take
offense
at
captain
overweight's
chart
charts
showing
the
high
number
of
traffic
safety
incidents
that
correlates
with
gun
violence
and
with
a
a
high
number
of
people
of
color
and
and
people
in
poverty
being
prevalent
in
a
neighborhood.
I
do
agree
with
council
member
thomas
that
it's
important
what
we
do
with
that
data
right
and
if,
if
and
we
should
not
be
looking
to
just
use
that
data
to
justify
enforcement,
but
I
don't.
E
I
also
don't
think
that
we
should
shy
away
from
that
data.
Because
to
me,
what
we
saw
on
those
charts
charts
is
emblematic
of
a
systematic
disinvestment
in
these
neighborhoods.
That
has
happened
for
decades.
The
same
neighborhoods,
where
we
saw
the
traffic
incidents
are
the
same
neighborhoods
that
were
redlined
they're
the
same
neighborhoods
that
have
struggled
throughout
this
entire
covid
pandemic.
People
have
gotten
the
most
sick.
E
People
have
lost
their
jobs,
the
most
they're,
the
same
neighborhoods
that
have
that
don't
have
as
high
access
to
quality
schools
and
they're
the
same
neighborhoods,
where
we've
not
invested
in
basic
traffic
and
other
types
of
infrastructure
that
could
help
with
those
issues.
So
I
don't
think
that
we
should
shy
away
from
that
reality.
Instead,
I
think
that
that
information
and
that
data
needs
to
be
instructive.
E
For
us,
it
needs
to
be
instructive
for
us,
as
we
move
into
budget
season
about,
what's
going
to
get
what
and
who
gets
priority
in
this
city
and-
and
you
know-
and
I
and
I'm
hopeful
that
as
we
look
at
neighborhoods
that
are
at
under
an
incredible
amount
of
stress
from
multiple
crises
at
the
same
time
that
that's
what
we're
going
to
prioritize
and
that's
what's
gonna,
I
I
hope
rise
to
the
top.
So
I
just
wanted
to
to
make
that
comment.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
chair
recognizes
member
again.
F
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair.
I
just
wanted
to
ask
if
mr
white
could
come
back,
because
I
did
just
want
to
confirm
that
in
our
budget
cycle,
when
we
passed
the
budget
last
in
june
of
2020,
there
was
an
explicit
note
that
the
police
department
personnel
would
be
in
part
reduced
because
of
the
transfer
of
the
school
crossing
guard
unit
to
otis,
and
I
wanted
to
ask
mr
white.
It
sounds
like
you
are
unaware
of
that
and
that
that
has
not
occurred.
Is
that
correct.
A
A
No,
I
do
recall
conversations
of
that
nature
taking
place.
I
believe
during
hearings
in
2020.
F
A
B
J
Hi
good
morning,
council
members,
I'm
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen
now.
I
also
have
a
powerpoint
presentation
to
go
along
with
my
testimony
this
morning.
J
J
Yeah
there
was,
there
was
a
lot
of
great
ideas,
put
put
forth
a
lot
of
great
discussion
that
we're
listening.
I
I
don't
know
that
I'll
be
able
to
address
everything
that
you
you
all
touched
on,
but
we
hope
to
shed
some
more
light
on
a
lot
of
the
issues
that
were
just
discussed
with
the
captain.
J
I
want
to
start
with
our
goal.
Our
goal
is
straight
up:
eliminating
all
traffic
deaths
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
when
we
think
of
a
traffic
death,
you'll
notice
that
we
don't
use
the
word
accident,
we
use
the
word
crash.
We
don't
think
these
are
just
accidents.
We
think
these
are,
we
don't
think
they're
a
fact
of
life.
You
know
we
don't
think
they're
inevitable.
J
J
J
Council,
member
thomas
and
and
I'd
like
to
thank
the
council
member
for
sponsoring
the
resolution
for
bringing
up
this
issue.
This
is
a
this
is
an
issue
that
is
very
ripe.
It
has
not
been
discussed
enough.
Both
the
overall
hit
and
run
both
the
hit
and
runs
and
their
overall
traffic
fatalities.
Last
year,
traffic
fatalities
were
up
78
in
2020.
J
This
isn't
this
isn't
something
that
goes
up
and
down
by
a
lot.
Every
year
you
will
see
the
trend
line
over
about
the
last
decade.
On
this
slide
and
you'll
see
the
increase
that
we
saw
in
2020
shown
the
the
the
numbers
for
2020
were
literally
off
the
chart.
J
We
we
had
to
make
a
new
chart,
that's
how
that's
how
terrible
2020
was
in
philadelphia
in
terms
of
of
traffic
crashes
and
and
and
the
the
the
term
is
sometimes
used
in
my
field
traffic
violence
when
we
think
about
the
harm
done
to
people
from
from
these
preventable
incidents-
and
you
know,
I
can
only
think
that
it
was.
You
know
all
the
other
crises
that
our
city
faced
is
why
this
number
that's
also
important,
did
not
did
not
probably
get
the
attention
that
it
deserves,
but
I'm
glad
we're
talking
about
it
today.
J
This
increase
happened
among
all
modes
of
transportation.
The
blue
bars
show
the
the
the
previous
five-year
trend
and
the
yellow
bars
show
what
happened
in
2020
and
whether
it
was
people
walking
people
riding
a
bike.
J
People
on
a
motorcycle
or
people
on
an
automobile
we
saw
dramatic
increases,
no
matter
how
you
were
traveling
in
traffic
fatalities
in
2020.
I
I
some
of
you
might
know.
I
spent
three
years
working
in
the
automotive
industry.
Designing
automobiles,
the
modern
automobile
is
a
marvel.
I
was
just
hearing
on
the
news
today
that
the
the
the
marvel
of
auto
engineering
is
why
tiger
woods
is
likely
alive
today
and
did
not.
You
know,
pass
away
in
the
crash
that
he
had
yesterday
or
the
day
before.
J
You
have
to
be
going
very
fast
in
an
automobile
to
to
die,
and
so
this
this
shows
the
extreme
issue
that
our
city
is
facing,
that
automobile
crashes,
where
you
are
well
protected,
went
up.
93
in
2020.
we
have
a
serious
problem.
J
J
This
is
the
subject
of
our
hearing
today.
This
is
important,
hit
and
run
crashes.
They
shock
the
conscience,
they
are
a
they.
They.
They
show
the
lack
of
concern
for
our
our
fellow
resident,
this
behavior
leaving
the
scene
that
they
are
heinous
in
a
way,
and
so
they
are
they
are
important,
but
I
want
to
note
that
it's
not
just
the
hit
and
run
crashes
that
went
up.
J
It's
the
you
know
the
non-hit
and
run
crashes
went
from
76
to
115,
and
we
we
think
all
of
these
are
a
tragedy
and
and
the
the
the
biggest
tragedy
is
that
someone
died.
It's
it's
heinous
that
the
actor
who's
responsible
left
the
scene,
but
but
our
goal
is
to
stop
it
before
it
happened
before
there
was
a
fatal
preventable
incident.
That's
that's
that's
otis's
goal.
When
we
look
at
these
numbers,
so
I
think
the
hit
and
run
conversation
is
very
important.
J
You
know
how
to
hold
individuals
accountable
for
their
reckless
behavior
for
their
demonstration
of
a
lack
of
concern
for
their
fellow
person,
but
when
we
look
at
these
numbers,
we're
we're
we're
trying
to
prevent
all
all
of
them,
not
not
just
when
someone
leaves
the
scene
inappropriately.
J
It's
important
to
remember
that
the
these
numbers
are
people,
they
represent
real
people,
and
so
this
came
from
this.
This
text
and
and
picture
came
from
the
vision,
zero
plan
and
I'll
talk
about
it
in
a
minute
that
we
put
out
in
november.
J
These
are
real
people
with
families
with
loved
ones
that
lost
their
lives.
We
got
it.
We
got
to
keep
thinking
about
them.
You
know
these
numbers
like
that.
Every
every
number
is
a
person,
and
this
is
this
is
a
case
that
you
might
know
about.
J
You
know
tragic
case
gets
me
worked
up
every
time
I
think
about
it,
but
but
the
activism
of
miss
bird's
family
has
led
to
to
real
improvements,
has
led
to
the
introduction
of
speed
cameras,
so
this
is
also
a
case
of
of
tragedy
that
that
the
the
people
who
knew
this
woman
have
have
really
taken
that
tragedy
and
done
something
to
help
their
fellow
residents.
J
You
know
we
talk
about
what
we
have
done
over
the
last
three
years,
so
we
put
out
our
first
action
plan
in
2017
and
we
updated
it
in
november
of
2020..
So
you
know
we
have
done
a
lot.
I
I
don't
think
we've
done
nearly
enough
and
the
the
trend,
the
the
dramatic
upward
spike
in
2020,
shows
that
and
and
the
lack
you
know
that
we
haven't
yet
seen
the
dramatic
decrease
before
that.
J
J
Eighty
percent
of
the
killed
and
serious
injury
crashes
happen
on
12
of
our
streets
and,
like
the
chair
said,
you
know,
some
of
these
are
city
streets,
but
a
lot
are
also
penndot
streets
and
we
need
to
work
with
penndot
we're
with
the
state
on
on
addressing
these
issues
that,
as
added
complication,
of
course,
you
know,
but
penndot
you
know
has
you
know
shown
that
they're
willing
to
come
to
the
table
and
work
with
us,
but
we
need
we.
We
can't
we
can't
stop
and
we
can't
slow
down.
J
We
have
made
some
progress,
so
the
the
blue
line
are
our
high
injury
network
streets.
Where
we've
done
something
I
I
I
wouldn't
say
all
of
them,
you
know
have
been
a
dramatic
change.
Some
of
them
have
been
significant
like
the
road
diets
on
chestnut
street,
for
example,
some
of
them
have
been
more
modest
interventions
and
then
the
pink
lines
show
where
we
have
something
that
is
in
the
works,
where
we
have
a
project
that
is
in
either
planning
or
in
design.
J
We
that
we
think
will
make
a
difference,
but
you'll
notice
here
we
just
you
know
the
magnitude
of
the
problem
is-
is
much
greater
than
the
resources
that
we've
been
able
to
bring
to
bear
to
do
the
really
hard
work
of
finding
a
solution
that
that
will
that
will
work
for
communities
and
that
will
address
the
the
traffic
safety
problems
and
change
is
hard.
Change
is
hard,
and
sometimes
you
know
you
know
conversations
about
narrowing
the
streets.
You
know
that
narrow
streets
are
safer,
that
that
is
counterintuitive
right.
J
I
think
it's
wide
open,
there's
nothing
to
hit
right
and
we
we
come
into
the
room
and
say
actually
this
is
more
dangerous.
It
takes
a
while
to
build
that
trust
and,
as
you
know,
trust
in
government
is
low,
it's
probably
as
low
as
it's
ever
been.
So
each
of
these
projects
takes
a
significant
amount
of
work
with
the
community
and
that
that
work
isn't
isn't
free
and
it's
not
it's
not
even
cheap.
You
know
it
takes
a
lot
of
staff
hours.
You
know
lily's
time
really
beating
the
bushes
having
real
conversations
with
people.
J
So,
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
do
the
the
blue
document.
That's
the
vision,
zero
plan
that
we
put
out
november
last
year
that
lays
out
the
overall
policies.
The
the
yellow
document
that
you
see
is
the
capital
plan.
We
took
ten
of
the
most
dangerous
interest
intersections
and
ten
of
the
most
dangerous
corridors
and
we
started
saying
you
know
this
is
where
we
need
to
do
a
project.
You
know
this
isn't
even
all
of
that
high
injury
network.
All
of
that
12.
J
This
is
just
10
intersections
and
10
corridors
that
are
particularly
dangerous
and
we've.
We
want
to
move
those
corridors
forward
in
the
next
five
years.
Let
me
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
approach.
I
think
the
approach.
Traditionally.
This
is
a
conceptual
diagram
that
comes
from
that
blue
document.
J
J
We
think
you
know:
enforcement
and
education
is
part
of
the
solution
still,
but
we
think
it's
a
smaller
part
of
the
solution
and
that
designing
our
roads
so
that
they
compel
people
to
drive
in
a
safer
way
and
then
also
people
are
in
safer
vehicles.
And
that's
just
not
you
know
my
my
former
employer,
you
know
selling
you
a
safer
car,
that's
also,
you
know,
to
the
extent
possible
getting
people
on
the
bus
and
on
the
train
and
and
and
biking.
J
J
So
there's
there's
four
parts
of
our
strategy
to
reducing
and
eliminating
traffic
crashes.
One
is
expanding.
Automated
speed
enforcement
and
I'll
have
some
slides
about
that.
The
next
one
is
setting
safe
speed
limits
so
right
now
we
we
just
don't
have
the
ability,
even
as
the
city
of
the
first
class
to
say.
Okay,
I
think
I
think
the
safe
speed
limit
is,
you
know,
20
or
25
throughout
the
entire
city.
J
You
know
we
have
to
do
some
laborious
and
with
our
hands
tied
behind
our
backs
studies
on
each
and
every
street
to
justify
it
and-
and
that's
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
streets
in
the
city
of
philadelphia,
so
we
need
the
ability
to
set
what
we
know
from
best
practice
are
our
safe
speed
limits.
J
We
need
to
pass
the
legislative
tools
at
the
state,
but
also
at
the
local
level,
and
to
give
us
the
ability
to
you
know,
move
forward
on
these
projects
and
then,
lastly,
we
want
we.
We
think
this
should
be
enshrined
in
the
city
code
that
that
traffic
safety
is
important,
so
we're
still
developing
the
specifics
here,
but
we'd
like
before
the
end
of
this
administration
to
work
with
council
on
a
vision,
zero
ordinance
that
states
you
know
both
policy-wise
and
sets
up
certain
parameters
that
that
that
human
life
takes
precedence
over.
J
You
might
have
seen
this
graphic
before
this
was
in
our
original
report,
and
this
just
shows
how
critical
slowing
people
down
is.
If
I'm
a
pedestrian-
and
I
am
hit
by
an
automobile
and
that
automobile
is
going
20
miles
an
hour,
I
only
have
a
10
chance
of
dying
10
miles
an
hour
faster.
I
have
a
50
chance
of
dying
and
at
40
that
car's
going
40.
I
have
a
90
chance
of
dying,
so
saving
slowing
down
a
car,
even
by
5
or
10
miles
an
hour
drastically
increases
the
survivability
of
a
crash
means.
J
Someone
has
a
you
know,
visits
the
hospital,
maybe
has
a
recovery,
that's
difficult
versus
that
person
is
no
longer
with
us.
J
What
we
did
do,
though,
when
we
put
up
this
report
is
we
did
an
analysis
of
where,
where
are
these
dangerous
streets,
these
high
injury
network
streets
and
and
who
lives
in
those
neighborhoods
right,
and
what
we
find
is
that
dangerous
streets
are
30
percent,
more
likely
to
be
in
a
neighborhood
where
residents
are,
are
people
of
of
of
color
or
majority
people
of
color
and
similarly
on
an
income
basis.
J
These
these
high
injury
network
streets
are
three
times
more
likely
to
be
in
a
neighborhood
where
the
residents
a
substantial
portion,
are
living
on
low
incomes
compared
to
where
the
fewest
residents
live
in
low
incomes.
So
we
see
that
there
is
a
concentration
of
these
dangerous
high
injury
network
streets
in
in
in
minority
neighborhoods
and
in
low-income
neighborhoods.
You
know-
and
this
is
a
problem
that
we
frankly
need
to
work
with
council
on-
I
don't
think
either.
One
of
us
can
solve
this
problem
together
or
by
ourselves.
J
We've
gotta,
we've
gotta,
solve
it
together.
Me
talk
a
little
bit
about
automated
enforcement.
We
think
that
those
infrastructure
projects,
the
ones
that
let
me
just
scroll
up
real,
quick
and
that
are
on
the
high
injury
network
and
especially
the
ones
that
are
in
this
yellow
capital
plan
are.
Are
you
know?
That's
that's
the
thing
we
need
to
do,
but,
to
the
extent
that
you
know,
enforcement
is
part
of
the
solution,
not
not
all
of
it
or
our
first
step.
J
We
think
that
automated
enforcement
has
a
lot
of
really
significant
advantages
and
just
just
to
make
sure
we're
all.
On
the
same
page,
we've
got
two
automated
enforcement
tools
available
to
us
today.
The
one
is
the
arleigh
program,
the
automatic
red
light
enforcement
that
was
launched
in
in
2002
and
and
how
we
get
an
rl
camera
in
a
place
is
you
know
it
gets
reported
it
gets
put
on
a
list.
J
We
do
a
study
to
show
that
it's
warranted
and
then
city
council
has
to
pass
an
ordinance
to
say
yes,
it's
approved
in
this
location
and
penndot
has
to
approve
it
also
that
that
program
has
been
very,
very
important
in
saving
people's
lives
and-
and
I
think
this
is
this-
is
critical
here-
that
what
we're
interested
in
doing
is
is
reducing,
killed
and
serious
injury
crashes.
J
If
we've
got
some,
we've
got
some
body
damage,
you
know,
we've
got
a
bump.
You
know
you
got
a
a
ding
in
your
bumper.
You
know,
because
there's
a
a
a
rear,
end
tap,
that's
okay!
You
know
we
can.
We
can
all
walk
away
from
that.
It's
the
t-bone
that
these
are
the
cameras
really
per
rep,
prevent
that
that
send
people
to
the
hospital
or
the
morgue
and
that's
what
this
program
has
been
able
to
do.
It's
been
able
to
dramatically
reduce
those
those
killed
and
serious
injury
crashes.
J
The
other
tool
we
have
is
automated
speed
enforcement
or
camera
automated
speed
enforcement,
and
this
is
currently
allowed
by
the
state
code
on
roosevelt
boulevard,
only
we're
in
the
middle
of
a
five-year
pilot.
The
cameras
just
became
active
in
august.
It
is
too
early
to
say
anything
about
their
effectiveness.
J
You
know
those
those
first
studies
should
be.
You
know
we
should
start
getting
data
this
year,
but
you
know
we
don't
have
it
yet,
but
you
know
we.
We
think
this
is
a
tool
you
know
and
we'll
we'll
we'll
keep
looking
for
the
effectiveness,
but
has
been
dramatically
effective
in
other
places,
and
if
you
ask,
why
has
philadelphia
seen
a
70
80
increase
in
traffic
fatalities
during
the
pandemic,
whereas
new
york
and
dc
have
been
essentially
flat?
J
I
think
a
big
part
of
that
is
the
automated
speed
enforcement.
Both
of
those
cities
have
have
flexible,
ubiquitous
programs
throughout
their
city,
so
they
have
the
tools
to
control
speed.
I
think
the
other
probably
bucket
is
that
they
they've
been
investing
in
a
way
in
their
infrastructure
that
we
haven't
been.
J
I
think
one
of
the
the
key
parts
here
is
the
equity
case
for
automated
speed
enforcement.
You
get
a
ticket
in
the
mail.
There
is
not
the
same
likelihood
that
a
traffic
stop
is
going
to
escalate
into
harm
for
either
the
person
pulled
over
or
for
the
officer.
J
You
know
too
many
cases
where
we
see
a
traffic,
stop
turns
into
violence
and,
and
then
it's
on
the
national
news
and
it's
a
tragedy
that
doesn't
happen
with
automated
speed
enforcement.
You
get
a
ticket
in
the
mail.
Also
it
you
know
it
doesn't
take
officer
resources
you
have.
The
surety
of
getting
a
ticket
is
much
more
effective
in
changing
behavior
than
the
amount
of
the
ticket
and
and
last
I'll
just
say,
the
camera
doesn't
know
the
race
of
the
driver.
J
You
know
we
have
to
be
careful
that
we're
putting
them
in
places
based
on
the
crash
data
and
not
the
race
of
the
neighborhood,
but
that
camera
doesn't
know
who's
driving
the
vehicle
gets
the
ticket.
It
doesn't
disproportionately
pull
over
a
certain
kind
of
of
driver,
so
we
we
think
both
for
us
a
traffic
safety
we
got
to
solve
both
of
these
problems.
J
Right
we've
got,
we've
got
a
traffic
safety
crisis,
we've
got
an
equity
crisis,
we've
got
a
climate
crisis
and,
and
we
we've
got
to
get
solutions
that
that
that
can
address
all
of
these
and
we
think
automated
speed
enforcement
cameras
are
kind
of
they.
They
they
solve
our
some
of
our
problems
without
you
know
making
our
other
problems
worse.
So
I
think
that's
all
of
my
presentation
today.
Thank
you
so
much
for
for
listening
and
lily,
and
I
can
take
questions
lily.
Did
you
have
anything
to
add.
B
You
thank
you,
daddy.
Testimony
is
the
will
of
the
committee
that
we
want
to
stop
and
quit
for
now
or
do
you
want
to
proceed
with
the
next
person
to
testify.
C
Mr
chair,
if
it's
okay
with
you,
can
we
proceed
with
with
pro
I'm
sorry
with
we
have
a
guest
who
has
to
leave
pretty
soon.
My
staff
text
me,
professor
ryanson:
can
we
can
we
proceed
with
professor
ryansen,
so
we
can
get
that
testimony
in
before.
B
L
Certainly,
hello,
everyone.
Thank
you
so
much
for
having
me
I'm
professor
megan
reierson,
I'm
the
ups
chair
of
transportation
at
the
university
of
pennsylvania
and
a
professor
of
transportation,
engineering
and
urban
planning,
I'm
the
founder
of
the
center
of
safe
mobility,
where
I
conduct
research
on
urban
transportation
safety,
and
I'm
here
today.
L
Speaking
from
that
expertise,
I'm
also
speaking
as
a
proud
resident
and
I'm
also
speaking
as
a
proud
resident,
an
active
urban
commuter
and
someone
currently
considering
if
the
streets
are
safe
enough
for
my
nine-year-old
twins
to
walk
themselves
to
school
once
the
philadelphia
public
school
reconvenes
in
person,
the
last
two
testimonies
really
covered
the
the
statistics
overall
crashes
and
hit
and
run
crashes.
So
I'm
gonna
go
right
to
right
to
solutions.
L
One
thing
I
want
to
say
before
that
is
that
we've
talked
about
hit
and
runs.
We've
talked
about
overall
crashes,
we've
talked
about
how
hit
and
runs
have
increased
as
a
percentage
of
overall
crashes
in
2020.
L
But
if
we
are
here
to
make
meaningful
contributions
to
public
health
through
traffic
safety,
we
please
focus
on
the
hit
on
the
all
traffic
fatalities
and
focus
on
solutions
that
reduce
this
trend.
Traffic
fatalities,
traffic
safety
was
a
problem
before
was
a
problem
before
the
pandemic,
and
it's
it's
it's.
We
need
to
focus
on
all.
We
need
to
focus
on
all
traffic
fatalities.
L
When
we
narrow
focus
on
safety
and
hit
and
runs,
we
tend
to
focus
on
surveillance
and
enforce
hot
spot
areas
that
see
many
of
the
crashes.
Limiting
opportunities
for
running
threaten
the
possibility
of
a
ticket
and
hoping
drivers
will
modify
their
behavior
to
comply
with
traffic
rules
right.
We
have
enforcement
and
hope
that
it
modifies
behavior
in
in
my
field.
Study
study
has
found
that
enforcement
has
a
weak
to
to
little
to
no
effect
on
driver
compliance
and
I'll
also
say.
L
I
I
thought
chris
is
housekey's
point
about
how
every
one
crash
statistic
is
a
is
a
person
right
when
we
say
that
something
has
a
small
but
not
a
very
strong,
measurable
measure
effect
on
compliance
right.
That
means
we're
leaving
open
to
many
more
crashes
and
many
more
many
more
people
to
be
effective.
Enforcement
might
be
relentlessly
consistent,
geographically
widespread
and
include
appropriate,
severe
punishments
that
are
intended
to
modify
this
behavior.
So,
given
the
dire
situation
in
philadelphia
today,
enforcement
alone
is
not
insufficient.
L
L
So
I'd
like
to
talk
about
two
reasons
in
particular
why
infrastructure
is
such
a
part
of
the
problem
and
I'm
going
to
talk
about
the
difference
between
design,
speed
and
posted
speed?
Now
I
know
captain
overwise
is
here,
so
we
don't
have
to
raise.
You
don't
have
to
raise
your
hands
if
you've
ever
sped
on
on
the
highway.
But
if
you've
have
you
ever
been
cruising
down
the
highway
and
suddenly
realize
you're
comfortably
going
15
20
over
the
limit.
L
That's
because
the
highway
is
designed
for
you
to
do
that.
We
post
a
lower
speed
because,
as
chris
as
chris
showed
speed
kills,
and
so
we
post
a
lower
speed
to
manage
traffic
to
smooth
traffic
flows
and
because
it
crash,
we
want
people
going
at
a
lower
speed,
but
the
difference
between
design
and
posted
speed
forces
us
to
constantly
overrule
the
instincts
and
the
messaging
we're
getting
from
the
road
right
and,
and
chris
mentioned
how
wide
roads
and
so
make
us
go
faster.
That's
that's
the
design,
speed
and
and
we're
trying
to.
L
We
have
to
fight
to
not
drive
at
the
speed
that
the
road
is
designed
for.
So
let's
get
back
to
philadelphia's
urban
roads,
specifically
one.
That's
lower
congestion
because
of
the
pandemic
wide
lanes
and
recessed
curves
that
allow
for
high
speed
turns
combined
with
lower
congestion,
has
encourages
our
drivers
to
drive
fast
today.
L
Should
they
constantly
overrule
themselves?
Yes
right,
but
that's
what
we're
relying
on
for
safety
so
to
address
these
issues.
Otis
has
decreased
lane
width,
slowed
down
traffic
and
select
parts
of
the
city.
Chris
chris
showed
that
showed
that
map
and
talked
through
some
projects-
chestnut
street
transportation
project
20th
street
to
the
south
street
bridge.
Turn
these
observations.
Excuse
me.
These
interventions
are
providing
measurable
safety,
they're
slowing
down
traffic,
increasing
the
visibility
of
pedestrians
and
they're,
also
increasing.
L
Because
those
parked
cars
are
blocking
your
view,
you,
as
a
driver,
have
to
force
yourself
to
stop
before
the
stop
line.
It
doesn't
benefit
you
you're,
not
in
danger
right.
You
need
to
actually
overshoot
the
line
in
order
to
see
cross
traffic,
but
you
need
to
force
yourself
to
stop
carefully
just
in
case
there's
a
pedestrian
there,
but
we
know
this.
This
happens
every
single
time
I
walk
in
my
neighborhood
and-
and
maybe
some
of
you
are
replaying
incidents
like
this
for
yourselves.
L
We
know
that
drivers
will
simply
overshoot
the
stop
line,
not
force
themselves
to
anticipate
pedestrians,
and
this
forces
the
pedestrian
to
be
on
the
defensive
rather
than
rather
than
the
driver.
Now
pennsylvania
vehicle
code
does
require
that
cars
are
not
to
be
parked
within
a
certain
number
of
feet,
20
to
30
feet
of
the
curb,
but
no
parking
signs
are
not
ubiquitous,
nor
are
they
effective
right.
We
need
to
block
the
roadway.
L
We
need
to
block
off
the
parking
at
least
20
feet
leading
up
to
the
car,
if
not
more,
with
an
infrastructure
intervention
pushing
parking
back
from
the
curb
to
make
pedestrians
more
visible
to
drivers
is
called
daylighting
council
member
brooks.
Maybe
that
was
one
of
the
words
you
were
you
were
thinking
of
drivers
will
only
reliably
modify
their
behaviors
when
the
infrastructure
on
which
they
operate.
L
Their
vehicle
demands
through
the
infrastructure's
designs,
that
they
drive
slower,
pay
more
attention
and
see
and
stop
for
pedestrians
and
other
roadway
users,
and
so
I
I'm
here
to
say
that
we
must
narrow
our
driving
lanes,
ideally
with
separate.
You
know.
In
some
cases
this
could
be
separated,
cycling
lanes.
In
some
cases,
this
just
could
just
be
narrowing
lanes.
L
L
You
know
I'd
like
to
say
that,
in
my
estimation,
philadelphians
want
these
interventions
right,
otis
called
for
applications
to
the
neighborhood
slow
zone
program
in
2019.
They
received
applications
from
all
over
the
city
outlining
interventions
like
the
ones
I
suggest
above,
but
because
of
because
of
funding,
they
were
only
able
to
fund
seven
percent
of
the
applications.
L
It
just
felt
like
why.
Why
are
only
seven
percent
of
these
neighborhoods
getting
to
implement
safe,
slow
zones?
When
so
many
more
want
this
right?
It
felt
it
felt.
You
know
it
felt
a
little
like
the
hunger
games
or
why
should
some
go
without
and
some
not
it
just
felt
it
felt
wrong
and
it
it.
It
felt
wrong
in
that
way,
and
I
imagine
that
it
must
have
been
so
hard
as
otis
to
go
through
these
applications
and
only
know
that
you
can
pick
few.
L
That
must
have
just
been
a
very
difficult
moment.
The
problem
isn't
that
we
don't
want
infrastructure
interventions
and
the
problem
is
not
that
they
are
not
effective.
It's
that
we
we
aren't
prioritizing
them.
We
aren't
prioritizing,
we
aren't
prioritizing
engineering
and
design
solutions,
and
so,
if
we
improve
our
infrastructure
in
these
ways,
we
will
see
fewer
fatalities.
L
L
You
can
move
around
much
more
freely
to
shop,
to
walk,
to
work,
to
take
their
kids,
to
the
playgrounds
and
and
to
and
to
visit
with
neighbors
council
person
brooks
had
posed
the
question
and
and
was
discussing.
You
know
why.
Why
are
there
more
traffic
fatalities
in
lower
income,
neighborhoods
and
then
council
member
brooks?
You
also
mentioned
that
infrastructure
looks
different
in
different
parts
of
the
cities.
L
We
have
some
of
these
interventions
in
higher
income
parts
of
the
city
and
and
and
I
would
argue
that
infrastructure
and
the
cues
that
infrastructure
gives
to
our
our
drivers,
particularly
in
some
of
the
lower
income.
Neighborhoods,
doesn't
doesn't
force
attention
and
that's
that's
a
problem,
and
you
know.
I
really
think
that
we
need
to
walk
with
these
or
without
with
an
eye
to
these
these
infrastructure
and
design
infrastructure
and
design
issues.
L
I
want
to
mention
that
I'm
here
to
priori,
I'm
here
to
encourage
everyone
to
prioritize
these
long-term
behavior
modifying
engineering
and
design
solutions,
and
I
really
want
to
focus
on
long-term
and
and
consistently
behavior
modifying
engineering
design
solutions.
There
was
a
lot
of
discussion
of
of
crossing
guards.
L
L
But
to
me,
when
I
see
a
crossing
guard,
it
tells
me
that
we
aren't
willing
to
design
our
streets
to
be
safe,
for
children
to
cross
them,
and,
and
that
that,
to
me
is
that
to
me
is
a
is
a
failure
that
we
need
an
adult
in
order
to
get
our
drivers
to
stop
rather
than
build
out
infrastructure
that
makes
it
safe
for
children
to
cross
crossing
guards
are
not
a
sustainable,
consistent
solution
in
the
pandemic.
My
children
can't
walk
to
the
park.
They
can't
do
that
because
there
is
no
crossing
guard
right.
L
We
we
need
to
think
about
a
suite
of
solutions
in
tandem,
I'm
not
saying
that
we
shouldn't
have
crossing
guards,
but
we
need
to
think
about.
You
know
guards
enforcement
and
we
need
to
prioritize
infrastructure
solutions
so
that
we
can
really
effectively,
in
the
long
term,
change
the
way
drivers
drive
and
change
safety.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
B
Thank
you
so
much,
remember
thomas
I'm
going
to
transfer
the
chair
to
you,
but
I
want
to
say
something
that
this
whole
hearing
has
made
me
think
about.
B
Over
my
time
I
remember
the
exact
locations
where
civic
action
was
taken
because
of
the
removal
of
a
street
light
on
hunting
park,
avenue,
cag
and
rah,
which
are
two
activist
community
organizations
shut
a
intersection
down.
When
I
tell
you
you
know
the
buses
stopped
horns
honked
and
they
shut
it
down
until
they
got
their
councilman,
their
senator
and
their
state
rep
to
work
together
to
restore
that
life.
B
Same
thing
happened
in
overbrook
park
on
haverford
avenue,
the
the
people
from
penndot
decided
it
would
be
better
if
they
took
out
every
other
traffic
light
in
order
to
haste,
hasten
people
coming
from
the
suburbs
member
thomas
to
be
able
to
get
to
their
jobs
in
center
city
and
and
they
decided
and
they'll
say
that's
not
why,
but
they
shut
the
intersection
down.
I
mean
total
interruption
of
traffic
flow
and
again
that
happened
in
winfield
and
winfield
heights
right
by
the
target.
B
B
Now,
as
I
look
at
those
areas-
and
I
look
at
the
income
of
those
areas
that
speaks
volumes
too-
that
that
their
daily
concerns
for
life
trickled
down
to
traffic,
there
are
some
places
in
my
district
where
bullets
are
flying
and
you
have
to
duck
the
cars,
but
you
also
have
to
duck
the
bullets
too,
and
those
are
often
conflicting
priorities.
B
C
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
We
appreciate
it
and
we
appreciate
all
you
do
as
it
relates
to
leading
the
conversation
around
all
issues
surrounding
public
safety.
So
this
is
just
another
example.
So
thank
you.
We
appreciate
you
to
my
colleagues.
I
know
that
there
are
a
couple
of
people
queued
up.
C
What
I
would
like
to
do
is
if
we
can
just
start
by
and
chris
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
apologize
to
you
now
if
we
can
just
start
by
taking
questions
for
professor
ryanson,
because
she
professor
ryan,
probably
has
about
five
minutes
of
our
time
left
literally.
So
if
we
could
just
take
a
few
notice
for
anybody
who
has
questions
for
professor
ryan,
so
we
will
let
her
go
first,
then
we'll
bounce
back
over
to
chris.
C
If
that's
okay
with
you
first
so
in
the
chat
feature,
I
see
council
member
green.
Did
you
have
a
question
for
professor
ryan.
C
You're
on
you,
counseling
everything.
D
Yeah,
the
bulk
of
my
questions
were
for
mr
pakosky,
but
professor
ryerson.
Thank
you
for
your
information.
I
think
it
was
very
enlightening
about
the
point,
the
main
reference
to
infrastructure
and
that
the
the
lack
of
investment
infrastructure,
especially
in
much
low
income
communities
in
our
city,
which
is
also
leads
to
the
fatalities
that
we
talked
about,
and
I
think
that
highlights
some
of
the
conversations
we
had
at
the
beginning
of
this
hearing.
So
thank
you
for
providing
information.
D
Do
you
have
any
specific
data
that
you
can
share
with
the
chair
that
can
be
circulated
to
other
members
of
the
committee
that
provide
some
additional
insight
in
reference
to
that
lack
of
investment
from
an
infrastructure
perspective,
and
also
not
only
comparing
philadelphia
but
other
cities,
but
has
been
also
the
same
trends
where
you've
had
higher
fatalities
in
communities
of
modern
local
people
in
cities
around
the
nation
or
at
least
in
the
region
that
have
also
lacked
that
investment
infrastructure?
That
would
be
helpful.
L
Very
good,
thank
you
and
thank
you
very
much.
I
I
I
do
certainly
have
of
data
on
the
second
point
that
you
you
raised
in
terms
of
the
the
funding
and
the
lack
of
investment,
that's
something
I
would
confer
with
with
otis,
and
so
I
I
wonder
if
chris
or
chris
or
lilly
you
have
more
access
to
such
such
such
data,
and
thank
you
for
prioritizing
my
schedule.
I
can
stay
for
maybe
10
10
more
minutes.
I
I
I
didn't
mean
to
be
so
rushed.
C
It's
no
problem.
We're
used
to
this
on
the
council
side,
so
I'm
just
looking
at
those
are
queued
up.
I
don't
think
we
have
too
many
more
questions
for
you.
I
know.
Councilmember
brooks
have
a
comment,
but
before
you
go,
I
do
have.
I
do
have
one
question,
so
I
do
agree
with
you
as
it
relates
to
investment
in
infrastructure,
and
I
think
about
the
fact
that
I
grew
up
in
oakland,
but
I
went
to
frankfort
high
school.
C
So
when
I
was
in
high
school
one
of
the
things
we
used
to
always
do
in
the
frankfurt
neighborhood
was
ride.
Our
bikes
and
frankfort
is
probably
one
of
those
famous
neighborhoods
like
I'll
go
ahead
and
throw
nicetown
under
the
bus
says.
Councilmember
brooks
is
here
where
there's
like
a
lot
of
one-way
streets,
a
lot
of
small
one-way
streets,
but
the
young
people.
C
You
know
they
bike
a
lot
and
there
was
a
thing
when
I
was
younger,
where
young
people
will
always
get
hit
by
a
car
on
their
bike
in
frankfurt,
because
they
would
have
a
lot
of
one-way
streets,
but
then
they
would
have
these
really
small
two-way
streets
as
well
too
so
coming
into
council.
One
of
the
first
things
I'm
like
is
yo.
C
We
gotta
figure
out
how
to
bring
bike
lanes
into
more
neighborhoods
of
color
so
that
children
can
bite
safely
and
the
biggest
pushback
I
got
was,
which
I
completely
understand
is
that
when
communities
of
color
see
infrastructure
issues
happening
to
the
street,
they
automatically
think
gentrification
is
coming.
So
how
do
you
suggest
we
package
this
message?
If
we're
actually
able
to
see
some
capital
investment
in
infrastructure?
How
do
we?
How
do
we
communicate
this
message
in
a
way
where
we're
trusted
figures
coming
into
neighborhoods
of
color,
looking
to
invest
in
infrastructure
without
displacing
people?
C
I
just
want
to
know
your
thoughts
on
that
before
you
get
ready
to
go,
because
I
don't
think
any
of
the
council
members
had
questions
and
then
I'll
let
councilmember
brooks
go
with
her
comment.
I
apologize.
L
And
it
it's
it
sounds
like
this
is
something
that
lillian
otis
is
is
doing
on
the
on
the
on
the
everyday
and
it's
it's.
It's
a
very
it's
a
very
good
and
important
point,
and
I
I
think
that
the
the
message
has
to
continually
be
on
on
safety,
on
how
this,
when
you
know
this,
when
we
put
when
we
take
away
space
from
the
when
we
take
away
space
from
the
vehicles
that
the
drivers
have
to
drive
slower
and
we
want,
we
want
slower
traffic
right.
L
So,
rather
than
being
a
bike
lane
project
right,
I
like
to
think
about
the
chestnut
street
transportation
project.
It's
a
transportation
project
because
it
provided
a
new.
They
provided
a
new
protected
bike
lane,
but
it
also
made
crossing
safer.
It
also
slowed
down
traffic
so
that
everyone
feels
safer
right.
It's
really
like
a
like
a
slow
streets,
a
slow
zone.
I
love
that
neighborhood
slow
zone
title.
You
know
that
that
otis
runs.
You
know
it's
really
about
slow
streets
and
protected
bike
lanes
are
one
way
to
get
there.
L
L
G
Yeah
she's
really
really
brief.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
professor
ryerson
for
clarifying
the
term.
I
know
you
have
been
thinking
gaslighting,
but
I
was
meaning
daylighting.
So
thank
you
for
clarifying
that
term
and
you
know
I
look
forward
to
you
know
talking
to
you
more
about
this
issue.
L
G
L
I
I
was
thinking
if,
if
you
may
already
be
familiar,
but
if,
if
you're
not
the
organization
that
is
called
napco,
which
is
the
organization
of
the
organization
of
city,
transportation
officials,
they
have
a
lot
of
really.
They
have
a
lot
of
really
nice
diagrams
of
different
traffic
interventions,
and
you
know
a
lot
of
really
clear
drawings
and
their
names
and
so
on
it's.
L
It
sounds
like
something
that
you
know
that
that
you
that
you
might
enjoy,
and
you
can
always
feel
free
to
reach
out
I'd,
be
happy
to
you
know
talk
more
about
these
about
these
interventions.
Thank
you.
So
much.
C
Thank
you,
professor.
We
appreciate
your
testimony
here
today.
We
appreciate
your
expertise
and
we
appreciate
your
advocacy
around
this
issue
and
I'm
sure
that
you'll
be
hearing
from
other
members
of
council
as
it
relates
to
best
practices
and
solutions
moving
forward.
So
thank
you
for
being
here
with
us
today.
C
Thank
you.
Chair
recognizes
council
member
green
for
questions
for
the
other
side
of
the
panel.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
mr
pachowski,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
testimony.
You
provide
some
very
alarming
facts.
In
reference
to
the
increase
of,
and
your
phrase
crash,
violence,
I
think
is
appropriate
that
what
happened
in
2020,
would
you
say,
that's
fundamentally
tied
to
the
lack
of
having
automated
enforcement
cameras
here
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
and
only
being
in
certain
locations.
J
J
You
know
we've
gotten
sufficient,
we've
gotten
numerous
anecdotes
that
there
is
a
a
somewhat
of
a
breakdown
in
norms
over
the
over
the
pandemic
about
you
know,
respect
respect,
for
you
know
following
the
the
traffic
rules,
the
what
megan
said
is
you
know
like
like
she
said,
is
the
you
know
pulling
yourself
back
even
when
maybe
the
infrastructure
is
telling
you
to
do
something
different?
You
know
people
been
very
surprised
when
we
said
traffic
crashes
went
up.
They're
like
oh,
I
thought
driving
went
down,
that's
exactly
it!
J
The
driving
went
down.
There
was
no
congestion
to
slow
people
down
and
now
they
can
go
fast.
So,
even
though
we
know
that
traffic
is
about
80
of
normal
in
terms
of
volumes,
that
20
decrease
from
normal
is
enough
to
remove
the
congestion,
so
people
can
now
don't
have
the
same
constraints,
so
I'm
not
constrained
by
the
traffic,
and
maybe
I'm
not
constrained
by
my
own
internal
workings
and
I'm
also
not
constrained
by
an
automated
enforcement
system.
J
D
And
in
other
jurisdictions,
the
automated
enforcement
is
that
handled
directly
by
the
municipal
government
or
some
type
of
city
related
entity.
J
Yeah,
I
that's,
I
don't
I'm
gonna
say
I
don't
know
who
does
technically
gives
the
ticket
out.
You
know
in
our
city,
the
the
parking
authority
has
been
designated
by
the
state
to
administer
the
system.
Lily.
Do
you
know
in
dc
or
new
york,
whether
it's
an
arm
of
the
city
government,
I
think
in
dc?
It
is
because
they
are
like
they're
like
a
state
and
a
city
at.
J
D
And
then,
in
reference
to
a
legislation
that
may
be
needed
at
the
state
level,
as
you
were
talking,
I
was
thinking
about
the
work
I
do.
I
was
president
of
pennsylvania,
municipal
league,
one
of
the
issues
that
a
number
of
cities
have
raised
and
have
been
raising
regarding
legislation
in
the
general
settlement
was
a
reference
to
radar
and
the
need
for
the
those
various
cities
to
be
able
to
do
their
own
local
enforcement
of
radar
because
of
traffic
issues.
D
Traffic
calming
also
public
safety
issues
in
a
number
of
areas,
but
mostly,
I
think
it's
tied
to
the
traffic
and
not
being
able
to
do
that
type
of
local
enforcement.
So
I'm
curious
what
type
of
legislative
changes
would
you
say
are
near
the
state
level
to
help
address
some
of
the
fatality
or
crash
violence
that
you
talked
about.
J
Yes,
thank
you,
councilmember,
that
that
we
are
the
only
state
in
the
entire
country
where
local
police
cannot
use
radar
to
manually,
enforce
traffic.
The
only
state-
and
it
just
begs
any
explanation-
there
was
any
of
several
bills
in
the
last
session
that
didn't
make
it
through
that
we
looked
at
we
reviewed
and,
and
we
we
thought
would
would
adequately
address
the
situation.
I
think,
that's
just
you
know
the
basics
of
the
ability.
C
D
Then,
lastly,
in
looking
at
your
your
chart,
you
showed
information
about
kind
of
an
old
model
was
focusing
on
behavior
like
do
the
right
thing
versus
now.
It's
focusing
more
on
behavior,
but
also
more
balanced
approach
of
infrastructure,
which
I
just
talked
to
the
professor
about
as
well
as
vehicles.
Well,
we
don't
control
the
vehicles
that
is
being
done
by
those
that
used
to
be
in
your
line
of
work
to
being
here
with
the
city,
but
from
the
street
infrastructure.
D
What
are
some
of
the
improvements
that
need
to
be
made-
and
I
am
definitely
cognizant
of
the
statements
made
by
the
chair
and
the
professor
regarding
the
concerns
that
when
investments
are
made
from
in
road
infrastructure,
that
raises
a
concern
and
question
of
gentrification,
but
what
are
some
of
the
investments
that
we
can
be
making
that
can
help
reduce
this
crash
violence
that
we
have
in
our
city.
J
Yeah
there
there's
a
whole
toolbox
out
there.
It
involves,
like
the
lane
width
changes
road
diets.
So
removing
the
number
of
lanes
curb
bump
outs,
protected
bike
infrastructure.
There's
a
lot
of
pieces.
I
think
they
fall,
though,
if
we
could
into
two
different
categories.
I
think
there's
the
quick
intervention,
temporary
treatments.
So
that's
paint
that's
a
flex
post.
That
is
a
that.
Maybe
is
a
jersey
barrier.
You
know,
temporary
materials
can
be
moved
if
necessary
and
then
there's
the
permanent
infrastructure
so
how
it
works
in
new
york.
They'll.
J
Do
the
temporary
pilot
three
to
five
years
later,
they'll
come
back.
They'll
move
the
curb
line
right,
they'll
they'll
do
they'll
they'll
build
the
islands
out
of
concrete
and
I
think
both
are
important.
We're
we're
we're
in
a
budget
situation
we're
struggling
just
to
implement
the
pilot
materials.
You
know
let
alone
the
coming
back
in
concrete
and
putting
something
in.
D
D
And
I'll
close
with
this,
I
think
one
of
the
challenges
is
trying
to
provide
the
messaging
to
all
communities
in
city
of
philadelphia.
I
know
we
have
the
this
vision,
zero
initiative,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
that
message
is
penetrating
various
communities
in
the
city
of
philadelphia.
I
think
there
needs
to
be
a
renewed
focus
on
how
that
message
is
delivered
and
the
messengers
for
that
message.
D
Embarrassed
communities
around
the
city
of
philadelphia.
I
know
people
have
the
concern
of
gentrification,
but
I
think
if
people
also
had
a
understanding
of
this
lack
of
infrastructure
also
has
a
impact
on
their
neighbors
and
loved
ones
and
their
community.
By
not
having
this
infrastructure,
investment
has
increased
number
of
fatalities
and
crash
violence
in
modern,
low-income
communities
in
the
city
of
philadelphia.
That
will
possibly
help
to
change
the
narrative
towards
people
being
more
inclusive
and
more
supportive
of
the
infrastructure
items
that
you
talked
about
granted.
D
We
understand
that
finances
and
resources
are
a
challenge,
especially
in
our
current
dynamic
due
to
the
pandemic,
but
we
still
have
to
plan.
We
have
a
capital
program
which
is
six
years.
We
didn't
plan
to
make
this
investments,
but
I
think
we
need
to
make
that
type
of
messaging,
more
apparent
and
a
more
thoughtful
critical
way
to
let
people
know
that,
without
these
type
of
investments,
we're
going
to
continue
to
have
disproportionate
fatalities
in
various
communities
around
the
city.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
May
I
contribute
some
comments
in
response
to
council
member
green's
questions.
I
Sure
please
thank
you
so,
with
with
regard
to
that
last
comment:
council,
member,
green,
I,
and
to
some
of
the
other
questions
that
have
been
put
forward
today.
It
just
calls
to
memory
a
conversation
I
was
having
actually
yesterday
with
a
indigo
liaison
in
point
breeze,
neighborhood
kim
and
she's
somebody
that
otis
has
been
working
with
in
the
indigo
program
for
several
years.
A
I
Is
an
ambassador
for
the
bike
share
program
and
that
model
is
one
that
otis
has
found
to
be
very
successful
in
partnering
directly
with
community
members
who
are
leaders
in
their
neighborhood
and
giving
them
both
a
stipend
education
and
resources
to
go
and
talk
with
their
neighbors
about
the
benefits
that
they
find
are
very
useful
for
the
indigo
program.
So
she
was
saying
to
me
the
things
that
she
found
in
her
life
over
the
years
that
were
benefits
to
her
and
how
that
helped
her
and
having
conversations
with
her
neighbors.
I
So
I
think
that
this
is
something
that
we're
continuing
to
try
to
expand
throughout
our
different
programs
and
otis,
including
with
an
upcoming
vision,
zero
youth
ambassador
program,
as
well
as
with
other
infrastructure
projects
that
we
are
working
on
in
different
communities,
including
right
now,
early
planning
and
mantua,
where
we
are
working
with
some
community
liaisons
again
respecting
and
understanding
their
time
that
they
are
contributing
to
the
work
that
we
do
by
providing
a
small
site
bend
to
thank
them
for
their
time
and
effort
that
they
put
in
to
having
these
community
conversations.
I
So
I
completely
agree.
I
think
that
that
message
and
the
messenger
is
extremely
important
and
empowering
to
have
community
members
who
are
the
same
people,
often
who
are
coming
to
us
and
asking
for
some
of
these
interventions
and
changes
to
be
partners
with
us
on
the
ground.
I
And
if
I
may,
I
would
like
to
add
one
other
comment
to
your
question
about
the
state
legislation.
I
think
you
know
recognize
that
this
body
is
not
the
body
that
I
was
responsible
for
that,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
mention
the
state
legislation
for
the
what
we
call
the
curb
bill,
which
is
a
very
important
piece
of
legislation
that
did
not
pass
in
the
last
legislative
session.
I
I
So
we
are
not
able
to
use
some
of
the
temporary
materials
that
chris
talked
about,
like
flex
posts
to
install
protected,
sheltered
bike
lanes,
meaning
that
many
of
the
places
where
we
know
where
this
safe
infrastructure
would
be
useful.
Not
just
the
cyclists,
but
to
people
who
are
walking
and
people
who
are
driving
or
taking
transit.
We
are
really
strapped
because
we
would
only
be
able
to
implement
them
if
we
had
the
funds
to
do
full,
concrete
and
curb
which
we
simply
do
not
have
so
you're.
Looking
at
a
block
could
cost.
I
You
know
a
certain
amount
with
a
temporary
materials,
look
at
maybe
five
times
that
amount
or
more
to
do
it
with
the
concrete
materials.
I
So
we
were
very
disappointed
to
see
that
not
pass
in
the
state
legislator
legislature
in
the
last
session
and
have
been
working
with
other
partners,
including
the
bike
coalition,
who
I
believe
is
on
this
is
in
attendance
today
to
get
that
passed,
among
other
things,
as
well
as
state
nibbling
legislation
for
local
control
of
speed
limits,
which
is
one
of
the
goals
of
vision,
zero,
as
well,
so
making
sure
that
we're
able
to
have
different
methods
for
reducing
speed
limits
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
than
what
we
have
now
we're
again.
D
Thank
you
just
if
I
could
say
one
last
thing
mitch
chair.
I
know
I've
worked
with
mike
carroll
and
chris
yourself
on
legislation
locally,
but
I
think
this
provides
opportunity
to
have
a
conversation
with
rick
shuttler,
our
president
pennsylvania
municipal
league
and
john
brenner,
our
deputy
executive
director,
as
well
as
amy
sturgis,
our
legislative
director
on
these
issues,
cadaver
adventure,
just
like
I've,
seen
with
act
111
where
a
number
of
my
executive
board
members,
mayors
from
scranton
and
lancaster
and
pittston
in
our
first
call
with
governor
wolf
this
year.
D
We
our
first
issue,
was
act
111
reform
and
we're
working
with
the
representative
donna
johnson
bullock.
On
that
perspective,
I
think
this
is
another
area
where
we
can
have
some
synergy,
because
I
think
some
of
the
same
issues
in
reference
to
crash
violence
that
we're
seeing
here
in
philadelphia,
there's
probably
also
some
challenges
in
lancaster
and
scranton
and
harrisburg
and
erie
and
various
cities
around
the
commonwealth,
and
so
there
could
be
some
synergy
to
work
on
legislation
for
the
benefit
of
the
city
of
philadelphia
and
other
cities
around
around
the
commonwealth.
C
E
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
First,
I
wanted
to
acknowledge
your
comments
around
this
issue
of
cyclings
and
how
people,
in
particularly
black
communities
and
communities
of
color,
interpret
that
as
a
sign
of
gentrification
as
a
district.
E
You
know,
council,
member,
I'm
excited,
I'm
excited
about
the
opportunity
to
engage
my
community
in
having
more
modern
streets
that
provide
you
know
safe
modes
of
transit
for
for
safe
modes
of
passage
for
all
types
of
transit,
but
I
also
realize
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
part
of
this
conversation
right,
and
I
think
that
we
as
a
city
have
to
acknowledge
our
part
in
that
right.
E
So
when
we
have
had
neighborhoods,
for
example,
that
have
been
asking
us
for
like
a
decade
or
more
for
a
safety
bump,
you
know
speed
bumps
four
stop
signs
for
help
with
getting
handicapped
spaces,
and
then
we
in
those
neighborhoods
perceive
the
city
as
not
being
responsible
responsive
to
that.
But
then
you
know
when
younger
whiter,
newer
residents
move
in
there's
a
bike
lane
project,
that's
a
problem
right,
so
one.
I
think
we
have
to
acknowledge
our
level
of
responsiveness
to
long-term
residents
of
color
in
meeting.
E
You
know
the
needs
that
they
have
brought
to
us
and
I
think,
as
we
move
forward
with
these
projects,
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we're
responding,
especially
to
those
needs
right
and
maybe
even
front
loading,
some
of
those
improvements
in
neighborhoods
that
have
been
crying
out
for
them
for
a
long
time,
and
so
I'm
on
that,
you
know
I
I
would
love
to
have
protected
bike
lanes
in
other
parts
of
my
district
and
and
I
look
forward
to
participating
in
those
conversations
even
where
they're
difficult,
but
I
just
want
us
to
make
sure
that
we're
acknowledging
you
know
our
investment
in
in
neighborhoods
of
color
and
that
we're
making
sure
that
you
know
newer
residents
and
long-term
residents
are
are
getting
things
that
they
want
out
of
these
these
infrastructure
projects.
E
E
J
Yeah,
thank
you
for
your
comments.
First
of
all,
it's
been
good
to
work
with
you
and
your
staff,
whether
it's
on
the
project
in
mantua
or
the
you
know,
lindbergh
ave
or
the
conversations
we're
about
to
start
having
on
walnut
and
chestnut.
You
know
extending
that
infrastructure
all
the
way
to
cobb's
creek.
J
So
you
know
from
a
budget
perspective
like
like
all
operating
depart
like
all
departments,
whether
operating
or
you
know,
policy
groups
like
ours,
you
know,
you
know
more
resources
means
we'll
be
able
to
do
more
and
it's
both
on
the
it's
both
on
the
capital
side
and
the
operating
side.
So
you
know
we
need
the
capital
to.
You
know,
build
a
project,
but
you
know
we
need
operating
to
pay
people
like
lily
or
the
next.
J
You
know
planner
or
engineer
to
have
those
conversations,
and
you
know
I
think
you
know
she
pointed
to
the
conversation
she
had
yesterday.
You
know
when
we
have
these
long-term
relationships
that
that
helps
the
gentrification
conversation
go
better.
It
doesn't
get
rid
of
it.
But
when
we've
known
somebody
for
five
years,
it's
a
lot
better
than
just
showing
up
and
saying
hey.
J
We're
from
the
government
we're
here
to
help,
so
you
know
it's
those
long-term
relationships,
and
so
you
know
we
both
need
the
operating
to
to
plan
and
design
the
project
and
then
the
capital
to
build
it.
But
you
know
you
know
the
city's
in
a
budget
crisis,
so
I
don't
want
to
speak
out
of
turn.
You
know,
I'm
sure
every
operating
department
would
tell
you
you
know
what
they
could
do
with
with
more,
but
you
know
to
straight
up
answer
your
question.
J
You
know
the
budget
constraints
are
real
and
it's
also
with
the
traffic
calming
requests
in
the
streets
department.
You
know,
that's,
that's
not
my
department,
but
you
know
we
work
together.
It's
you
know
a
lot
of
times,
they're
they're
they're,
not
giving
you
know
or
they're
there
there's
a
backlog,
not
because
they
just
don't
want
to
give
it
out,
because
you
know
it
takes
staff
to
do
the
study
to
put
it
in
and
then
you
know
at
some
point
in
the
year
you
run
out
of
speed
cushions
to
put
in.
So
that's
that's
real!
J
That's
that's
real,
and
so
you
know
we're
we're
willing
to
take
a
look
at.
How
can
we
make
that
program?
The
traffic
calming
program
more
transparent?
You
know
better
redesign
the
parameters
making
sure
we.
A
J
The
equity
put
in,
but
you
know,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
need
the
resources
to
install
the
the
traffic
calming.
I
think,
from
a
non-budgetary
perspective,
we
we're
working
on
a
package
of
safety
and
congestion.
Related
things
called
the
omnibus
it's
you
know
it's
not
ready
to
put
out
today,
but
you
know
you
know
the
the
requirement
to
get
an
ordinance
for
every
bike
lane.
J
It
does
force
us
to
have
really
good
conversations,
but
is
also
a
barrier,
and
if
we
could
find
a
way
that
we
still
have
those
good
conversations,
but
without
the
need
to
go
through
the
process
of
an
ordinance
and
then
you
know
all
the
other
steps
and
then
the
time
you
know
that
that
could
add
four
months
into
the
project
delivery
price
process,
which
is
sometimes
enough
to
kill
a
project.
J
So
I
I
think,
if
we
could
take
a
look
at
that,
that
would
be
critical
last,
just
your
encouragement
for
alternate
modes-
and
this
includes
septa.
You
know
everybody
writing.
Septa
means
they're,
not
driving
around
that.
That's
really
important,
but
thank
you.
E
Thank
you.
I
will
not
profess
to
speak
for
every
district
council
member,
but
I
am
certainly
willing
to
have
the
conversation
about
how
we
make
some
of
this
easier,
particularly
if
we
could
do
that
and
streamline
the
process,
while
also
having
a
robust,
inappropriate
amount
of
community
engagement
too
I'll
also
say
this
is
probably
more
for
streets,
but
I
wish
there
was
a
way
that
we
can
combine
some
of
the
surveying.
We
do
in
response
to
requests
for
traffic
calming
with
resident
perspectives.
I
I
found
myself
in
situations
where
residents
are
saying.
J
E
Then
we're
going
out
and
saying
we
looked
at
it
and
our
data
says
we
don't
need
you
know
traffic
coming
here.
There
has
to
be
a
way
to
marry
that
perspective
in
a
better
and
more
equitable
way
as
well,
and
so
I
hope
that's
something
that
we'd
be
able
to
figure
out
as
a
city.
J
Yes,
abs,
absolutely-
and
that's
that's
really
what's
beyond
behind
the
neighborhood
slow
zone
program-
is
that
this
is
a
this
is
a
co-creation
process.
This
is
like
a
doctor-patient
relationship.
You
know
we're
we're
we're
hopeful.
I
hope
that
we're
you
know,
experts,
you
know
you
should
you
should
expect
that
we
know
what
we're
talking
about.
Just
like
a
doctor
is
an
expert
about
how
the
body
works,
but
the
patient
knows
where
it
hurts.
C
G
Thank
you,
council
chair.
I
have
a
few
questions
kind
of
I'm
gonna
just
dive
in
so
can
you
say
more
about
the
road
design
that
you
mentioned
earlier
in
the
10
corridors
that
have
seen
investments.
I
That's
right,
so
the
vision,
zero
capital
plan
identify
it
was
released
with
the
vision,
zero
action
plan
in
november,
as
a
sister
plan,
to
really
look
at
some
of
the
most
concerning
locations
that
we
haven't
yet
touched,
mainly
because
they're
not
low
hanging
fruit,
but
they
have
significant.
You
know
safety
implications
and
concerns.
So
we
use
you
know
a
lot
of
data
and
looked
at
it
from
many
different
perspectives,
including
an
equity
lens.
I
G
Clarity,
did
you
like
prioritize
the
streets
that
are
part
of
the
cities,
a
part
of
the
city
that
have
been
historically
kind
of
disinvested
where
and
where
our
long-term
residents
are
reciting?
Were
they
a
part
of
this
conversation
as
well?
Yes,.
I
So
I
can
provide
more
information
on
specific
locations,
but
I
think
a
majority
of
these
locations
are
outside
of
center
city.
Many
of
them
are
in
north
philly
in
in
west
philly,
where
we
see
some
of
those
crash
hot
spots
and
some
of
the
the
equity
lens
that
you're
discussing.
G
Okay
and
because
I
know
that
that
we
can
pick
places
in
the
city
that
used
to
be
housed
by
you,
know
low-income
residents
and
had
more
residents
of
color
and
people
living
on
fixed
income
kind
of
to
what
my
council,
member
colleague,
councilmember
jones,
mentioned
earlier,
but,
like
professor
ryan
mentioned
earlier,
these
maps
seem
to
prioritize
like
seven
percent
of
the
neighborhoods
that
are
getting
the
funding,
the
neighborhoods
that
are
already
changing
demographically
and
not
necessarily
neighborhoods,
where
we've
seen
more
long-term
residents
that
have
not
seen
the
benefits
of
his
investments
in
their
neighborhood,
as
I
think
councilmember
thomas
mentioned
earlier.
G
So
you
know
to
that
point.
You
know
I'm.
My
office
is
happy
to
help
identify
blocks
like
in
my
neighborhood
and
other
parts
of
north
philly
that
could
benefit
from
safer
crosswalks
and
daylighting
and
speed
controls
like
because
you
know
this
is
something
that
has
been
of
great
concern
and
two,
I
think
councilmember
garcia
mentioned.
You
know
our
neighbors
feel
like
they're
being
ignored
by
the
city,
and
I'm
also
concerned
that
we're
applying
like
blanket
solutions
to
solve.
G
You
know
traffic
issues
that
are
specific
to
each
neighborhood
and
how
we're
engaging
those
long-term
residents
that
may
be
hard
to
reach,
and
are
we
listening
to
their
like
holistic
perspectives
about
it
all,
because
I
believe
it's
critical
that
we
approach
this
lens
of
you
know
street
safety
by
providing
the
residents
a
chance
to
voice
their
concerns.
Specifically,
you
know
when
we
talk
about
geographic
inequities
and
how
that
impacts
them
directly.
G
You
know
my
staff
fields.
Constituent
services
calls
regularly
where
different
solutions
have
been
tried
and
failed
over
the
years
by
the
city.
You
know-
and
you
know,
long-term
residents
are
calling
us
with
ideas,
but
they
feel
left
out
of
this
decision-making
process,
and
I
understand
you
know
understand
why
they
feel
like
offended.
By
being,
you
know,
excluded
and
also
it
you
know,
amplifies
the
fear
that
you
know
access
to
safe
streets
directly
correlates
with
gender
gentrification,
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
you
know
those
voices
aren't
excluded.
G
G
You
know
bike
safety
lanes,
but
I
can't
think
of
a
clear
path
from
where
I
live
to
get
down
to
kelly
drive
to
ride
a
bike
that
I
would
trust
my
kids
to
do.
I
mean
we
did
it
as
kids,
but
times
were
different,
then
you
know.
J
J
Yeah,
I
I
we
agree
with
you.
We
see
it
as
a
problem.
I
think
we
actually
have
a
meeting
later
this
afternoon
council
member,
to
talk
about
bike
lanes,
including
where,
where
you
live-
and
you
know
we
recognize
there's
gaps
in
the
network,
not
just
the
protected
network
but
the
regular
network.
So
we've
got
to
address
it.
It
is
the
challenge
to
meet
everybody.
You
know
we
are.
We
are
learning
how
to
do
that.
J
I
think
the
that
neighborhood
slow
zones-
one
megan-
was
talking
about
where
we
were
only
able
to.
We
only
had
funding
for
a
very
small
part,
those
those
though
you
know
third
in
allegheny,
you
know
working
up
there.
You
know
we.
We
were
working
in
some
of
the
lowest
income
communities
and
and
how
we
did
it
is.
We
were
sitting
at
the
table
with
them
and
walking
around
the
neighborhood
we're
partnering
with
with
local
community
organizations.
J
You
know
like
apm
and
and
jose
to
you
know,
make
sure
that
we
were
connected
and
that
you
know
using
engagement
activities
like
saying:
listen,
here's
here's
our
monopoly
money,
here's
how
much
each
improvement
costs!
You
know.
Here's
a
map
of
the
neighborhood,
you
know
what
do
you
think
you
know
what?
Where
do
you
think
these
should
go?
So
you
know
those
kind
of
planning
exercises.
J
I
don't
know
if
I
addressed
your
question,
you
know
I
don't,
and
I
don't
think
this
solution
gets
all
the
way
there.
I'll
be
frank,
you
know
we,
we
have
a
lot
more
work
to
do
and
it's
not
just
otis.
It's
the
streets
department
too.
You
know
who's
got
a
lot
more
work
to
do
to
to
make
sure
that
we're
well
connected
with
community,
but
you
know
we're.
I
can
tell
you
we're
certainly
trying.
G
Thank
you
for
thank
you
for
responding
to
that,
and
you
know
I
look
forward
to
this
continued
conversation
around
just
creating
more
safe
passages,
as
councilmember
garcia
said,
from
all
modes
of
transportation,
whether
we're
walking
driving
or
riding
a
bike.
You
know
people
deserve
to
be
able
to
access
their
communities
in
a
way
to
save.
C
Thank
you,
councilmember
brooks
as
we
close
out
this
panel
and
get
ready
for
the
next
panel,
just
a
couple,
quick
things
for
clarification
purposes.
We
talked
about
earlier
this
idea
of
speeding
and
the
fact
that
41
of
our
traffic
fatalities
come
from
speeding,
but
less
than
one
percent
of
the
motor
vehicle
co-stops
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
are
from
speeding.
We
also
heard
different
testimonies
that
talked
about
solutions,
and
things
like
that.
C
I'm
wondering
from
your
perspective
how
effective
is
policing,
as
it
relates
to
how
we
are
doing
motor
vehicle
co-stops,
as
well
as
other
traffic
related
issues.
How
effective
in
your
opinion,
is
policing
as
it
relates
to
solving
this
problem
that
we
have
of
hitting
runs.
J
Yeah
thanks
for
bringing
it
up
so
about
stopping
people
for
speeding.
I
think
what
the
point
that
councilman
green
raised,
how
our
police
don't
have
radar,
so
it
is
nearly
impossible.
It
is
very
difficult
for
them
to
give
a
speeding
ticket
in
the
city
of
philadelphia.
J
You
know
radar
is
really
the
best
tool
to
do
that,
so
they
they.
They
don't
even
really
have
the
tools
to
get
a
speeding
ticket.
You
know
they've
got
to
set
up
two
lines
and
use
a
stopwatch
as
if
this
was
you
know
the
1930s
they
forget
modern.
This
is
a
technology
that's
been
around
for
decades
and
they're.
No,
no!
No!
I
I.
J
Yeah,
I
think
this
is
a
tricky
issue,
and
so
I'm
gonna
go
back
to
that
chart
that
I
had
where
the
the
behavior
change
is
part
of
it,
but
it's
only
it's
only
one
small
part
of
it,
so
I
you
know,
I
don't
think
we
can
throw
throw
it
out
the
window.
J
C
That's
what
that's
that's
that's!
I
just
wanted
to
get
your
opinion
last
thing
just
for
the
record,
and
I
know
one
of
my
colleagues
had
to
leave,
but
council
member
game
earlier
was
talking
about
the
crossing
guards.
Yes,
we
talked
about
the
the
budget
last
year
shouldn't
the
cards
now
be
under
your
budget
and
moving
between
you
and
the
managing
directors
offices
is
for
the
record,
because
earlier
there
was
some.
I
don't
know
if
there
was
clarity
as
it
released
to
exactly
where
crossing
guards
are.
J
Yeah,
I
can
try
to
I
I
when,
when,
when
council
member
gim
brought
that
up,
I
I
sent
some
messages
to
folks
in
the
mdo
who
who
are
working
directly
on
this,
that
that
is
still
being
transferred.
It's
finding
the
the
right
home
for
it
in
the
mdo.
You
know
the
otus
currently
has
about
15
people.
You
know
the
they're
over
a
thousand
crossing
guards,
so
we're
the
mdo
is
still
working
on
finding
the
right
fit.
J
You
know
both
in
terms
of
being
able
to
effectively
administer
the
program
and
also
finding
a
part
of
the
mdo
where,
where
it's
aligned
in
terms
of
the
mission,
so
it's.
A
J
C
So
we're
definitely
gonna
have
to
revisit
this
during
budget
season
right,
and
I
I'm
just
gonna
say
that
by
the
time
we
come
back
to
have
a
conversation
as
it
relates
to
budget
season.
C
I
don't
think
to
be
determined
is
going
to
be
a
good
enough
response
right
like
we
are,
and
I'm
not
even
going
through
a
deeper
dive
into
that
right
now,
because
we
have
to
stay
focused
on
this
hearing,
but
I'll
make
sure
you
come
back,
let's,
let's
that
can't
that
can't
be
what
we're
doing,
because
now
there's
a
certain
level
of
of.
I
guess
you
could
say
mistrust
that
creates.
C
You
know
issues
with
the
public
right,
because
we
communicated
to
the
public
that
we
were
going
to
do
one
thing
and
now
that's
not
happening
and
the
data
is
to
be
determined,
and
so
this
is
why
people
begin
to
not
trust
government,
because
we
give
them
the
perception
that
something
is
one
way
and
then
we
found
out
in
hearings
and,
through
you
know,
random
dialogue.
That
is
not
the
way
that
we
voted
upon.
So
I'm
not
blaming
you
chris,
I'm
not
blaming
you
lily.
You
guys
have
been
giving
us
great
information.
J
Okay,
I'll
make
sure
to
bring
that
back.
Council
member
thomas,
so
we're
ready
to
address
it
when
I
say
to
be
determined
that
the
move
is
happening,
it's
just
finding
the
right
place
for
it,
but
I'll
make
sure
that
we
we
have
a
more
we.
We
know
to
be
able
to
talk
about
this
when
the
budget
hearing
comes.
C
Thank
you
so
much.
We
appreciate
it.
If
are
there
any
other
questions
for
this
panel?
I
don't
see
any
in
the
chat
hearing
and
seeing
none.
I
want
to
thank
you
both
for
all
the
work
that
you're
doing
for
your
collaborative
effort
with
council
for
recognizing
the
importance
of
this
issue
through
an
equity
lens.
I
also
want
to
thank
captain
overwise
as
well
as
professor,
I
always
say
her
name
wrong.
I
apologize
professor
because
she
gave
us
some
great
information,
professor
ryan's
son.
We
appreciate
all
of
you
for
ryerson.
C
Thank
you
chris.
We
appreciate
all
of
you
for
being
here
and
being
a
part
of
this
conversation.
If
the
clerk
don't
mind,
can
you
please
call
the
next
panel
of
witnesses?
Thank.
C
C
My
witness
says:
please,
please
state
your
name
for
the
record
and
you
may
begin
with
your
testimony.
Stephanie
feel
free
to
go
first,
because
I
see
you
on
my
screen.
K
Okay
hi,
my
name
is
reverend
stephanie
evans.
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
having
this
panel
bear
with
me
a
second,
because
it's
a
little
emotional
for
me.
Even
though
it's
been
a
year,
my
son,
robert
evans
iii,
was
hit
by
a
hit-and-run
driver
january,
the
25th
2020,
and
I
want
to
say
a
little
bit
about
my
son
because
he
was
somebody.
K
I
just
want
to
say
that
he
was
a
devoted
son,
a
faithful
and
loving
father
to
alani
and
his
fiancee
noel,
intelligent,
hard-working
individual
carpenter,
entrepreneur,
loyal
friend,
avid
eagles
fan
and
a
sportsman,
his
smile
and
intellect
just
it
lit
up
the
room
when
he
came
in.
He
was
a
man,
man
and
a
very
good
friend.
He
loved
playing
basketball
and
cooking
for
family
gatherings.
K
K
So
robert
and
noel
toonly
they
routinely
vacation
twice
a
year
with
no
with
aulani
noel
with
him.
They
always
vacationed
twice
a
year.
My
son
rob
as
they
called
him,
was
somebody
and
he
did
not
deserve
to
die
needlessly
january
25th.
We
received
a
phone
call
around
135
a.m
in
the
morning
screaming
devastating
call
that
my
son
was
lying
in
the
streets
dead.
K
We
weren't
sure
what
we
were
hearing
you
know
you'll
be
waking
up
in
the
middle
of
the
night,
you're,
not
sure
and
you're,
not
clear,
especially
when
you
have
a
law-abiding
son,
so
his
fiancee
kind
of
explained
to
us.
He
was
outside
the
35th
police
district
dead.
K
So
we
arrived
there
at
the
brought
in
chap
loss
outside
the
police
district.
So
I
asked
them
where's
robert,
because
all
we
see
is
glass
and
debris
all
over
the
street.
You
could
tell
it
had
been
an
accident,
but
there's
no
body,
there's
blood,
all
in
the
street
that
there's
no
nobody.
K
So
we
asked
some
of
the
friends
that
were
devastated,
where's
robert,
so
they
said
the
analyst
had
taken
him
away.
My
pastor,
william
scott,
the
third
and
I
and
my
husband
went
into
the
35th
district
and
we
asked
like
you
know
there
was
an
accident
outside.
I
don't
even
want
to
use
the
word
accident.
K
K
So
we
went
from
hospital
to
the
hospital
where
einstein
searching
for
my
son
body,
so
I'm
thinking.
Maybe
this
is
not
real,
because
why
are
we
at
einstein
temple
we're
going
all
over
the
city?
Looking
for
him,
the
mortician
we
contacted
her
because
I'm
trying
to
make
it
a
little
short
because
it's
emotional
for
me.
K
She
finally
located
him
at
the
morgue.
So
when
she
locates
now
at
the
morgue
well,
actually,
when
she
called
the
morgue,
they
had
told
her.
They
couldn't
check
because
there
was
too
many
bodies
in
the
morgue
too
many
bodies
in
the
morgue,
the
mortician.
She,
the
mortician,
calls
the
city
board
and
you
can't
tell
me,
rather,
my
son
is
laying
up
there
with
a
tag
on
his
toe
or
whatever
took
her
two
to
three
days
to
finally
get
a
response
from
the
morgue
nor
never
contacted
us.
K
So
my
daughters
and
a
mortician
got
in
contact.
They
went
to
see
his
body
to
pick
up.
The
body
took
two
to
three
days,
my
son,
they
wouldn't
allow
me
to
go
to
the
morgue.
I
was
prohibited
from
going
and
to
come
to
find
out.
My
son
body
was
mangled.
K
Now
there
was
two
witnesses.
I
understand
the
young
lady
was
sitting
in
her
car.
She
was
so
visibly
shaken.
She
never
got
out
her
car.
She
said
the
guy
was
going
so
fast
that
our
car
shook
and
it
is
she
I
think
she
was
like
in
shock.
Now.
The
other
witness
was
a
another
man.
He
said
that
god
was
hit
so
hard.
He
must
be
dead,
there's
no
way
he
survived.
That
accident.
My
son
had
parked
in
the
middle
of
roy
street
to
get
out
to
get
something
eat,
so
he
never
knew
what
hit
him.
K
The
mortician
told
us
that
the
casket
had
to
be
closed
and
I
was
like
I
don't
understand.
Why
does
the
casket
have
to
be
closed?
So
nobody
would
would
actually
tell
me
he
had
been
mangled.
K
He
hit
him
so
hard
he,
but
the
guy
was
speeding,
but
the
gist
of
this.
What
scares
me
is
the
city
of
philadelphia,
the
city
morgue,
the
35th
district
and
then
the
detectives
okay.
So
the
city
police
detectives
got
all
the
information
who
hit
my
son,
the
car.
They
went
to
the
home
of
the
young
man,
african-american
man
driving
a
chevy
impala,
the
father,
told
the
detectives.
K
My
son
is
going
to
turn
himself
in
on
monday,
which
would
have
been
january,
the
27th
2020
that
didn't
happen,
so
they
go
back
a
couple
of
months
later,
I
believe
in
march
or
something
they
went
back.
The
young
man
tells
them.
He
has
a
lawyer,
and
the
lawyer
explained
to
him.
He
does
not
have
to
turn
himself
in.
K
My
daughters
are
in
communication
with
the
t
with
the
detectives
or
police
periodically,
so
they
were
playing
phone
tag
because
of
his
work
schedule.
Evidently
he
works
in
the
evening
or
the
wee
hours
of
the
night,
so
they
kept
missing
each
other,
not
returning
phone
calls,
so
my
daughter
finally
gets
in
touch
with
the
detective
and
he
told
her.
We
have
them
all
the
information
we're
waiting
for
more
dna,
the
young
man
lawyered
up
those
was
his
words
quote
lawyer
it
up,
so
we
cannot
make
an
arrest.
K
We
didn't
make
an
arrest,
and
so
my
daughter
said
why
not
she
they
told
her
because
of
covet
because
of
covet
something's,
truly
wrong
with
that
you
have
the
young
man
in
his
name.
K
You
have
the
car,
you
have
his
address.
You
know
it's
him.
You
know
the
know-how.
Why
is
covet
an
excuse
to
arrest
this
young
man?
I
really
don't
understand,
and
now
it's
2021
as
to
date,
there
has
been
no
arrests,
but
you
have
you
have
the
information.
Then
I've
heard
all
the
data.
I've
heard
everything.
How
is
difficulty
to
arrest.
Somebody
from,
I
think
overwise.
K
I
think
a
lot
of
the
presentation
was
excellent,
but
in
my
case
you
know
who
did
it?
You
know
the
car
the
man
live.
The
young
man
live
in
mount
airy,
he's
eating
every
day
with
his
family.
I'm
going
to
a
cemetery
had
to
bury.
My
son
took
the
mortician
seven
days
to
fix
my
son
that
we
could
view
the
body
so
the
next
time
I
saw
my
son,
he
was
in
a
casket
a
day
before
his
home,
going.
K
We
had
to
put
on
sunglasses,
we
had
to
put
on
a
baseball.
I
wanted
to
bury
him
in
a
suit
we
couldn't.
I
could
tell
that
his
leg
and
arm
had
been
broken.
The
way
it
was
positioned
in
the
casket,
the
sunglasses
covered.
She
had
to
hire
the
mortician
and,
thank
god
for
barley,
funeral
home.
She
had
to
hire
somebody
to
come
reconstruct
my
son
face,
and
so
I
just
want
closure
for
my
granddaughter
and
myself.
K
K
K
K
Why
have?
We
had
closure
to
ease
this
pain
we
deserve
we
deserve.
We
deserve
our
family,
his
daughter,
his
fiancee,
which
he
was
talking
about
getting
married
this
year.
We
deserve
some
answers
from
this
city
and
why
are
all
the
bumps
the
speed
bumps
in
center
city
this?
This
is
he,
according
to
the
news
report,
he
died.
He
got
hit
at
12
35.
We
got
a
phone
call
at
1
35,
and
so
I
don't
understand
how
the
35th
district
didn't
know.
K
I
think
I'm
right
and
praying
about
a
resolution
for
all
of
this,
and
I
I
had
a
lot
of
questions
but,
however,
during
this
presentation
I
got
a
lot
of
answers
now.
My
last
thing
is:
when
are
you
all
going
to
make
an
arrest?
In
the
meantime,
I
sincerely
want
to
thank
councilman
isaiah
thomas.
I
want
to
thank
you.
K
I
want
to
thank
your
team.
Cassidy
is
her
name,
I
want
to
say
her
last
name
party,
the
university
of
penn.
I
want
to
thank
matt
blatcher
from
channel
10..
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
taking
the
time
and
searching
my
family
out,
because
there's
several
families.
I
know
this
pain
every
time
I
hit
and
run
come
on
the
news.
K
I
go
back
to
trauma,
I'm
devastated
all
over
again,
I'm
a
reverend.
I
have
funeral
life
eulogized,
so
many
people
not
knowing
I
was
gonna-
have
my
own
son
who's
never
been
to
jail,
never
been
in
trouble.
Just
to
usually
you
know
gross
in
life
law
abiding
in
the
cities
he
got
out.
He
stepped
out
the
truck
to
get
something
to
eat
with
friends
raiding
across
the
street,
and
this
particular
day
he
decided
he's
going
to
drive
his
truck
around
broad
street
instead
of
walking
with
her
friends
and
he
dies
instantly.
K
K
I'm
praying
that
you
all
passed
some
laws.
I've
heard
about
the
bike
lanes,
I've
heard
about
the
cameras
and
thank
god
for
those
cameras,
because
that's
how
the
case
got
resolved.
But
why
is
everything
focused
in
center
city?
The
speed
bumps
the
lights?
I
live
off
of
roosevelt
boulevard,
so
I've
seen
hit
and
runs
I've
seen
so
many
tragedies.
I've
seen
it
with
my
own
eyes,
but
when
it
gets
close
to
home,
it
takes
on
a
whole
different
life.
K
This
trauma
on
end,
we
buried
my
son
on
february
5th,
2020
and
the
reason
why
we
buried
him
the
last
day
according
to
the
law.
That
was
the
last
that
he
could
go
into
the
grave
because
she
was
trying
to
reconstruct
his
face
at
ivory
hill
without
a
headstone,
the
headstone
been
paid
for
a
whole
year,
but
because
the
covet
again
it
hasn't
come
yet.
K
K
K
I
just
want
closure
to
ease
the
pain
as
we
go
through
this,
and
I
need
answers
for
my
granddaughter
because
once
a
month
she
asked
did
they
catch
the
the
man
to
hit
my
father
if
they
cat
and
I'm
like.
We
don't
have
any
answers
yet
we're
just
waiting
and
we're
just
praying,
and
I
just
want
to
ask
the
young
man
like
what
happened.
I
just
want
closure.
That's
all
and
I
pray
that
you
all
could
be
helpful
in
this
area.
C
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
brave
testimony.
I
know
firsthand
your
son
definitely
was
a
good
person.
C
I
can
only
imagine
the
grief
that
you
and
the
rest
of
your
family
are
going
through,
and
I
think
that
it's
important
that
you
communicated
that
testimony
today,
because
there
are
so
many
other
people
in
the
city
who
are
suffering,
who
just
don't
have
the
strength
to
come
before
us
to
be
able
to
communicate
this
concern
so
you're
speaking
on
behalf
of
you
and
robert
and
your
family,
but
you're
you're
speaking
on
behalf
of
a
demographic
in
the
entire
city,
who
just
it's
just
difficult
for
us
for
folks
to
do
this
so
reverend
evans.
C
Thank
you
so
much
my
thoughts
and
prayers
go
out
to
your
family.
I
do
want
to.
If
you
don't
mind,
can
you
hold
you
want
to
let
the
next
witness
testify
and
then
I
want
to
open
it
up
to
my
council
colleagues
for
questions
and,
I
believe,
there's
a
hand
raised
as
well
too,
but
the
next
witness,
if
you
don't,
please
state
your
name
for
the
record,
and
you
may
begin
with
your
testimony
and
again
reverend
evans.
If
you
could
stay
on,
please,
we
would
appreciate
it.
M
M
I'm
grateful
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
in
front
of
you.
I
believe
it's
imperative
that
I
do
in
order
to
provide
an
understanding
of
how
and
what
I
feel
about
vehicular
solutions
in
philadelphia.
M
M
M
During
his
college
years
he
was
a
part-time
staff
member
at
the
university
of
pennsylvania,
potluck,
health
and
business.
He
loved
that
place
after
graduating.
He
worked
as
an
engineer
at
blackney
hayes
and
then
at
amec
foster
in
philadelphia.
Both
engineering
firms
jamal
was
an
avid
cyclist,
nothing
but
a
bicycle.
M
M
M
In
addition,
he
played
many
musical
instruments:
pianos
saxophone
trumpet
drums
while
being
a
composer
who
enjoyed
singing
his
works,
jamal
loved
people.
He
shared
his
life
with
friends
and
family
and
saw
no
one
as
different
his
friend
loved
him
and
trusted
him
at
27
year
old,
two
years
old,
he
lived
a
full
life,
he
traveled
to
australia,
japan,
italy,
france,
england
and
the
caribbean.
M
He
was
a
gift
to
his
parents
and
his
family
as
a
whole.
His
presence
is
truly
miss.
I
celebrate
my
son's
life
every
day
since
his
past
in
a
foundation
was
created
in
his
name.
The
jamal
si
mahrez
foundation,
one
of
the
main
goals
of
the
foundation,
send
deserving
african-american
young
students
to
drexel
university
school
of
engineering.
M
His
mantra
was:
it's
only
getting
better,
no
matter
what
you
say
to
jamal
mom,
it's
only
getting
better
so
since
jamal's
dead,
I
have
never
heard
from
the
officer
in
charge
of
the
investigation,
and
I
have
his
name,
I'm
not
even
going
to
say
his
name.
I
have
called
and
visited
the
prison.
We
have
placed
a
10
000
reward
for
lead
on
the
accident.
Nothing
materialized.
M
We
need
stricter
legislation
and
insurance
review,
including
more
red
light
cameras
and
speed
cameras,
and
we
must
make
our
leaders
accountable.
I
thank
you
for
your
time.
I
thank
you
for
having
this
event
today
and
I
pray
that
the
voices
of
the
people
could
make
a
difference
so
that
each
of
us
can
drive
ride
our
bikes
and
be
safe
in
doing
so.
M
C
Again,
thank
you
so
much
for
your
testimony.
Like
reverend
evans,
I
can
only
imagine
how
difficult
this
is
for
you
to
come
before
us
and
communicate
such
painful
thoughts.
I
also
want
to
apologize
to
both
of
the
families
on
behalf
of
the
city
of
philadelphia.
C
What
what
you've
had
to
experience
as
it
relates
to
the
process
after
you've
lost
a
loved
one
is
one
that
there
is
no
excuse
for,
and
all
we
can
do
is
hope
that
you
highlight
these
issues.
Please
just
put
us
in
a
position
where
we
can
do
a
little
bit
better.
Does
any
members
of
council
have
any
comments
or
any
questions
for
this
panel?
C
I
know
it's
not
the
most
difficult
panel,
not
the
easiest
panel,
to
ask
questions
too
before
we
go
and
move
on
to
the
next.
Oh
I'm
sorry,
chair,
recognizes
council,
member
books.
G
Yeah
I
just
want
to
let
the
both
panelists
know
that
we
we
hear
your
stories
and
I
am
happy
to
be
a
part
of
this
hearing
with
my
colleague,
councilmember
thomas
and
we'll
continue
to
work
as
hard
as
possible
to
make
sure
you
feel
and
that
your
family
receives
justice
around
this
issue.
So
my
sympathies
are
still
with
you
and
your
families,
and
I
just
wanted
to
just
recognize
that.
C
Thank
you,
councilmember
brooks
before
we
go
just
two
things
number
one.
If
you
either
wouldn't
want
to
add
any
other
thing
to
the
record
that
you
feel
like
we
need
to
hear
that
we
need
to
know.
I
will
open
the
floor
up
to
you
as
well
captain
overwatch
who
was
testifying
earlier.
He
asked
that
you
reach
out
to
him,
so
we
will
have
members
of
our
office
connect
you
to
captain
overrides.
C
So
hopefully
we
can
get
you
some
solutions
to
some
of
the
issues
that
was
discussed
today.
I
see
captain
overweight.
As
on
camera
captain
did
you
want
to
add
anything
to
the
conversation
today.
H
Yes,
I
I
don't
want
to
discuss
publicly
the
specifics
of
reverend
evans's
son's
case.
We
are
this
close
playing
the
camera.
This
close,
I
wish
we
had
a
solution
for
you
right
now,
but
we
don't.
I
think
the
code
remark
referred
to
the
fact
that
we're
waiting
on
a
dna
sample
to
get
processed
through
the
lab
and
that
the
pandemic
may
have
caused
a
delay
that
takes
a
long
time
to
begin
with,
but
I
think
the
pandemic
may
have
caused
a
delay
in
that,
and
I
think
that's
where
that
came
from.
H
C
Thank
you
captain.
Otherwise
we
appreciate
it
and
again
I
do
want
to
apologize
on
behalf
of
the
city
of
philadelphia,
because
the
things
it
should
not
take
a
hearing
for
you
to
get
the
response
that
you're
essentially
asking
for
and
again
I
can
only
imagine
what
other
narratives
are
out
there,
where
people
just
don't
have
the
strength,
the
courage
or
the
resources
to
be
able
to
come
before
council
and
wait.
C
You
know
five
hours
just
to
be
able
to
tell
a
10
minute
or
15
minute
testimony,
because
it
means
that
much
to
you
and
you
care
that
much
about
your
loved
ones
and
getting
justice
for
something
that
is
unfortunate.
That
took
place
that
no
one
asked
for
it's
something
that
we
should
all
feel
obligated
to
to
essentially
do
for
not
just
for
the
families.
C
That's
testified
now,
but
for
all
the
victims
across
the
city
of
philadelphia
who
have
experienced
some
some
level
of
trauma
because
of
these
unfortunate
situations
with
hit
and
run
so
reverend
evans
or
mrs
morris.
Did
you
want
to
add
anything
as
it
relates
to
your
testimony
or
anything
else?
We
need
to
hear
from
the
record.
M
I
am
praying
that
something
can
be
done
to
this.
I
looked
at
the
penalty
for
hit
and
run
it
says
three
years
and
twenty
five
hundred
dollars.
I
don't
know
what
that
means
that
that
that
that
that
that
23,
as
it
says
on-
and
I
think
that
the
police,
the
I
was
assigned
to
a
prison
so
to
work
with
me
and
to
have
not
been
given
a
call
and
say,
listen,
miss
morris.
We
know
how
we
are
we
are
reaching
out.
We
are
doing
everything
we
can,
but
no
one.
M
I
have
a
heart
from
the
officer
who
was
assigned
to
the
case.
No
one
reached
out
you
know:
family
is
in
pain
and
you're
assigned
to
a
case.
Reach
out,
say
something.
So
if
you
have
to
lie
reach
out
and
say
miss
morris,
we
are
still
investigating,
but
just
let
it
die.
I
visited
the
prison.
Nothing
communication
is
key
it
somehow
it
makes
it
makes.
You
feel
better
that,
knowing
that
someone
is
working
on
it,
we
pay
ten
thousand.
We
give
ten
thousand
dollars
for
information
relating
to
it
and
nothing.
M
He
wanted
to
go
to
no
other
school
but
to
drexel
university
in
philadelphia
and
he
graduated
and
wanted
to
stay
there
and
years
later,
four
years
later,
nothing,
it
was
just
he
died
and
that's
the
end,
but
I
will
never
let
my
son
die.
I
would
do
everything
I
can
to
keep
his
memory
alive
in
this
world,
regardless.
C
K
I'm
actually
in
agreement
with
her,
I
had
actually
wrote
some
notes
during
this
whole
process.
I
don't
think
three
years
is
enough:
when
you
completely
tell
the
detectives
you
do
not
have
to
turn
yourself
in,
you
can
blatantly
just
drive
away
like
you
didn't.
Do
nothing
happened.
I
don't
think
the
2500
is
enough.
K
My
son
death
is
not
going
to
be
in
vain.
I
actually
was
trying
to
formulate
an
organization
mothers
of
murdered
sons.
Vehicular
homicide
is
still
murder
because
it
was
not
a
bullet.
K
It
still
deserved
much
more
attention.
He
only
stepped
out
of
his
truck
after
work
to
get
something
to
eat
and
now
he's
dead.
My
son
also
went
to
westchester
for
a
county,
that's
how
he
got
into
carpentry.
He
decided.
I
don't
want
to
do
that.
He
ended
up
going
to
trade
school
just
all
around
decent
guy
and
that's
why
it
hurts
it
hurts.
So
much
because
he
was
not
a
thug,
he
was
a
law-abiding
citizen.
K
The
unexpected
just
happened
to
him
like
how
how
could
not
the
city,
the
city,
why
didn't
my
daughters,
both
college
graduates,
smart
young,
ladies
track
down,
detectives
the
morticians
tracked
down
his
body
constantly
calling
to
take?
I
feel
your
pain,
because
the
detective
is
like
playing
phone
talk,
not
calling
back.
I'm
like
your
communication
is
the
key.
If
you
can
only
say,
listen,
I'm
still
working
on
the
case.
I'm
still
you
know
waiting
for
the
dna,
some
type
of
communication
to,
let
us
know
it's
a
glimpse
of
hope.
K
My
son
life
meant
something
to
so
many
people,
I'm
not
going
to.
Let
them
die
in
vain,
and
I
want
to
just
if
I
need
to
volunteer
at
the
traffic
people
for
technologies.
All
these
three
things
they're
trying
to
implicate-
and
you
know
getting
things
happen,
ask
for
volunteers,
just
train
them.
Like
you
talked
about
training,
train,
somebody's
family,
that's
been
hit
by
tragedy,
I'm
quite
sure.
With
some
qualified
families,
that's
been
traumatized,
that's
willing
to
come
in.
If
the
money
isn't
all
there,
don't
leave
us
out,
don't
count
us
out.
K
Ask
us
what
we
like
to
be
a
part
of
the
change.
So
when
it
happens
to
somebody
else
we
can
say
listen
help
is
here.
We
feel
your
pain,
that's
all
I'm
saying,
but
god
bless
you
councilman
council
and
brooks
for
staying
on.
Just
thank
you
all
this.
This
was
a
great
help
believe
it
or
not.
You
may
not
think
so,
but
this
is
the
beginning.
C
Thank
you,
reverend
evans.
We
appreciate
it
and
again
thank
you.
Miss
morris
as
well
too,
very
heart-wrenching,
testimony
and
reverend
evans.
C
If
you
decide
to
start
that
organization
murdered
my
son,
please
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
our
offices,
so
we
can
help
you
get
that
off
the
ground
because,
like
you
said
and
like
it's
been
said
so
many
times,
I'm
sure
that
you
you're
not
just
speaking
for
your
family
and
your
loved
ones,
you're
speaking
for
constituents
all
across
the
city
who
just
didn't
have
the
ability
to
be
here
today
to
communicate
this
to
us.
So
thank
you
so
much
we.
We
appreciate
your
testimony.
C
Thank
you
both
for
being
here.
We
apologize
for
the
delay.
This
has
definitely
been
a
very
long
hearing,
so
we
appreciate
you
being
patient,
but
it's
also
clearly
an
important
conversation
that
we
absolutely
have
to
have.
So
please
feel
free
to
state
your
name
and
begin
with
your
testimony
of
brandon.
If
you
bring
brendan
I'm
sorry,
if
you
don't
mind,
you
can
go
first
and
follow
ready
that
would
open
up
for
questions.
N
Absolutely
can
you
hear
me,
can
everyone
hear
me.
N
I'm
I'm
connected
through
my
phone
so
that
that
might
be
the
but
I'll.
Just
make
sure
that
I
speak
loudly
and
clearly,
mr
chair
and
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
brandon
flynn,
I'm
an
assistant
district
attorney
here
in
the
city
and
county
philadelphia
since
november
2016..
N
I
am
currently
in
the
homicide
and
non-fatal
shootings
unit
at
the
district
attorney's
office,
where
I
oversee
the
investigation,
charging
and
prosecution
of
vehicular
homicides
here
in
the
city
and
county.
I'm
honored
to
be
here
today
in
front
of
this
committee
to
discuss
the
role
that
prosecutors
here
in
the
in
the
city
and
across
the
commonwealth
play
in
addressing
this
serious
problem.
N
The
problem
of
hit
and
run
accident,
also
known
as
leaving
the
scene
accidents
I'll,
discuss
the
law,
I'm
kind
of
picking
backing
off
a
little
bit
of
what
captain
overweight
talked
about
earlier,
but
computers
perspective
and
I'll
specifically
focus
on
the
cases
that
I
handle,
which
are
the
cases
where
a
fatality
has
occurred.
N
So,
as
captain
overweight
talked
about
earlier,
the
standard
charge
that
we
we
talk
about
when
we
talk
about
a
leaving
machine
accident
is
found
at
title.
75
section
3742
under
the
somewhat
innocuous
sounding
title
of
accident
involving
death
or
personal
injury,
and
I
I
placed
the
language
in
my
written
testimony.
N
I
won't
go
through
the
actual
statute,
but
essentially
what
it
means
is,
if
you
are
involved
in
an
accident
where
a
personal
injury
or
death
has
happened,
you
have
to
stay
at
the
theme
in
order
to
provide
information
and
in
order
to
render
aid.
N
So
as
we've
discussed
as
captain
overweight
mentioned
previously,
that
carries
a
mandatory
minimum
sentence
of
incarceration
of
three
years.
It's
a
felony
of
the
second
degree,
meaning
the
max
that
you
can.
Someone
can
be
sentenced
to
on
that
is
10
years,
so
you
could
potentially
get
a
sentence
of
five
to
ten
years.
It's
also
important
to
note
that
neither
a
sentencing
judge
nor
the
prosecutor
can
de-mandatorize
that
that
sentence.
N
We
must
show
that
the
defendant
in
this
case
was
either
criminally
negligent
or
reckless
and
that
they
knew
or
should
have
known,
that
a
personal
injury
or
a
death
occurred
as
they're
leaving
the
scene.
There's
also
additional
charges
that
someone
who
causes
a
death
and
leaves
the
scene
is
could
be
responsible
for
that
would
be
homicide
by
vehicle,
involuntary
manslaughter
as
well
as
recklessly
endangering
another
person.
N
So
if
a
defendant
is
found
guilty
of
all
the
above
charges,
including
accident
involving
death,
and
they
could
face
potentially
actually
22
to
30
to
44
years
in
the
incarceration
now,
in
addition
and
and
I'm
I'm,
I
was
really
happy
to
hear.
I
was
happy-
I
was.
It
was
moving
for
me
to
hear
reverend
evans
testimony,
and
she
specifically
mentioned
something
along
the
lines
of.
N
You
know
that
the
kid
that
this
is
considered
murder
and,
in
some
cases,
a
case
where
a
defendant
leaves
the
scene
can
be
charged
as
as
a
murder
as
as
third
degree
murder,
which
is
these
are
under
certain
circumstances
where,
for
example,
if
essentially
the
commonwealth,
we
would
have
to
show
sustained
recklessness
that
if
a
defendant
was
drag
racing
at
high
speeds
with
another
driver,
if
a
defendant
disregarded
multiple
red
lights,
leading
up
to
an
accident
or
a
crash
that
that
results
in
the
death.
N
If
the
defendant
was
fleeing
from
law
enforcement
or
if
a
defendant,
the
evidence
shows
that
the
defendant
was
disregarding
repeated
warnings
to
slow
down
from
a
passenger
or
something
along
those
lines.
The
defendant
can
be
charged
with
third
degree
murder.
N
That
is
a
maximum
sentence
of
20
to
40
years
and
that's
in
addition
to
the
other,
the
other
charges
you
could
be
charged
with
third
degree
murder
and
leaving
the
scene
and
homicide
by
vehicle
and
involuntary
manslaughter
and
if
the
defendant
leaves
the
scene.
That
is
a
factor
in
considering
whether
third
degree
murder
is
applicable.
In
this
case
and
I'll
just
note.
Well,
actually,
captain
overweight
covered
that,
so
I'm
just
going
to
focus
a
little
bit
on
some
of
the
case
numbers
that
I've
I've
seen.
N
A
N
Bit
of
a
difference,
and
in
addition,
these
these
numbers
do
not
include
crashes
investigated
by
the
pennsylvania
state,
police.
D
N
They
have
responsibility
over
crashes
that
take
place
on
76,
on
95
and
on
on
the
vine
street
expressway.
So
these
unofficial
numbers
are
instructive.
My
numbers
show
that
there
were
114
automobile
crashes
investigated
by
aid,
resulting
in
a
fatality
in
2020.,
very,
very
similar
to
captain
overweight's
numbers.
Note.
N
Some
of
these
cases
will
not
result
in
criminal
charges
if
a
defendant
or
if
a
suspect
is
is
acting.
N
You
know,
is
not
acting
in
a
reckless
manner
and
it
could
just
be
a
tragic
accident
and,
and
just
the
person
could
potentially
be
held
civilly
liable,
but
it
is
not
going
to
be
held
criminal
now
often
cases
where
someone
leaves
the
theme
will
more
likely
to
be
a
case
where
there's
criminal
liability
than
attaches
so
in
any
event,
26
out
of
those
114
according
to
our
tally,
are
leaving
the
scene
crashes
either
by
driving
their
vehicle
away
or
leaving
on
foot
and
of
those
26.
N
I
have
current
active
charges,
meaning
not
only
has
there
been
a
arrest
warrant
issued,
but
there's
also
been
an
arrest
made
in
five
of
those
26,
so
that's
just
under
20
now.
I
will
also
note
that
investigations
remain
ongoing
and,
according
to
my
unofficial
numbers,
there
were
eight
leaving
the
scene
crashes
in
the
fourth
quarter
of
of
2020
in
just
october
november
december,
so
that
that
seems
like
seems
to
me
a
lot
in
just
one
quarter,
so
they
they
do
remain
ongoing.
N
A
N
In
a
plea
or
a
guilty
verdict
at
trial,
and
and
in
closing
I
wanted
to
note-
and
I
think
the
two
witnesses
on
the
prior
panel
really
underscore
this-
that
each
and
every
one
of
these
instruments
is
is
just
an
enormous
tragedy,
and
we
can
never
forget
that
behind
each
of
these
numbers
are
people
the
the
victims
themselves,
as
well
as
the
the
family,
members
and
friends
that
they
leave
behind
nothing.
We
do
can
bring
these
loved
ones
back
to
them.
C
N
Accountable
for
their
actions,
that's
what
I'm
committed
to
doing,
and
I
know
that
the
men
and
women
in
law
enforcement
and
aid
and
at
the
state
police
are
committed
to
doing
so
as
well.
So
thank
you
for
giving
me
the
time
and
opportunity
to
testify
today.
C
O
So
thanks
for
having
me
today,
I
just
first
want
to
thank
you,
especially
for
including
my
friend,
shannon
bell
morris
and
reverend
evans,
who
I
haven't
had
the
pleasure
of
meeting
before,
but
I
think,
as
everyone
here
knows,
that
their
testimony
was
extremely
important
and
obviously
you
know
gets
to
the
heart
of
why
we're
here
today.
So
I'm
gonna
go
through
my
my
testimony.
A
lot
of
it's
gonna
be
repeating
what
you
already
heard,
but
I'm
just
gonna
state
it
all
for
the
record.
O
So
since
2016,
the
bicycle
coalition
of
greater
philadelphia
has
been
keeping
a
public
online
database
of
all
traffic
fatalities
in
the
city
of
philadelphia.
O
This
has
been
done
in
part
as
part
of
our
vision,
zero
work
to
help
the
public
understand
where
crashes
are
happening
and,
more
importantly,
the
lives
that
were
ended
in
these
crashes
and
the
families
they
impacted.
O
The
people
who've
lost
their
lives,
whether
they
are
acknowledged
in
the
philadelphia
media
or
not
are
acknowledged
on
our
website
phltrafficvictims.org
and
while
we've
seen
some
progress
in
the
number
of
deadly
crashes
over
the
last
few
years.
Obviously
last
year
was
extremely
bad,
especially
involving
traffic
fatal
crashes
and
hit
and
runs
so.
The
2020
statistics
are
pretty
staggering
when
compared
to
a
normal
philly
year,
deadly
hit
and
runs
doubled
in
2020
over
2019.
O
Overall
deaths
rose
more
than
70
percent.
In
total,
our
initial
preliminary
numbers
found
that
153
people
were
killed
in
motor
vehicle
traffic
in
2020
compared
with
about
90
in
2019..
O
We
are
getting
our
numbers
both
from
the
philadelphia
police
and
through
media
reports.
34
of
those
deaths
were
the
result
of
a
hit
and
run,
which
is
at
least
the
most
hit-and-run
deaths.
Since
we've
been
keeping
track
of
of
crashes.
O
C
I'm
sorry
I
hate
to
interrupt
you,
but
just
for
a
quick
moment
of
clarity,
you
you
said
how
many
what
was
that
number
you
said
of
hit-and-run
deaths
in
2020
that
you
had.
I
have
34.
really,
okay,
I'm
definitely
gonna
come
back
to
that
point
I
apologize.
This
is
the
thought
I
heard
you
correctly.
Okay,
thank
you.
O
Yes,
so
so
data
show
that
people
in
low-income
areas
of
philadelphia
are
more
likely
to
be
the
victims
of
traffic
violence,
hit
and
runs,
and
not
hitting
runs
and
most
of
the
roads
that
kill
people
are
wide
pen,
dot,
owned
roads
and
allow
drivers
to
gain
speeds
that
are
not
advisable
or
legal,
as
we've
heard
before
today.
O
I'm
mentioning
all
traffic
crashes
here
and
not
just
hit
and
runs
because
I
don't
believe
you
can
necessarily
teach
a
person
empathy
to
stay
at
the
scene
of
a
crash
if
their
first
inclination
is
to
take
off.
I
also
don't
believe
that
increased
police
enforcement
is
realistic
or
will
help
solve
this
issue.
But
what
is
realistic
is
changing
our
streets
in
such
a
way
that
these
sort
of
incidents
don't
happen
in
the
first
place.
O
It's
for
these
reasons
that
the
bicycle
coalition
of
greater
philadelphia
helped
organize
a
local
chapter
of
families
for
safe
streets
in
recent
years.
Families
for
safe
streets
is
an
organization
made
up
of
the
families
of
traffic
violence
and
they
use
their
voices
to
help
make
our
streets
safer
for
everyone
and
shanna
bell,
who
you
heard
from
is
a
co-founder
of
that
group,
so
in
2017
the
bicycle
coalition
teamed
up
with
another
co-founder
of
that
group.
O
The
automated
enforcement
legislation
was
passed
in
the
legislature
and
then
by
city
council
and
the
cameras
were
turned
on
last
year.
So
automated
speed
enforcement
around
the
world
has
shown
to
curb
traffic
violence,
and,
while
we
currently
have
less
than
a
year
of
data
available
on
our
current
project
seems
to
be
making
a
difference
on
roosevelt
boulevard.
O
You
know,
while
there
were
still
way
too
many
deadly
crashes
on
roosevelt
boulevard
in
2020
those
crashes.
According
to
our
data,
represent
about
seven
percent
of
all
deadly
crashes
in
the
city,
whereas
before
the
speed
cameras
specifically
in
2018,
roosevelt
boulevard
accounted
for
up
to
20
percent
of
all
deadly
crashes.
So,
while
we
can't
necessarily
say
that
was
the
main
cause,
it
does
look
promising
down
the
line.
O
The
bicycle
coalition
has
also
long
advocated
for
re-engineering
streets
with
safety
in
mind.
I'm
sure
everyone
here
is
familiar
with
our
stance
on
protected
bike
lanes
and
the
increased
safety
of
a
weld
and
the
increased
safety.
Well-Designed
bike
lane
can
provide
two
citizens
using
the
street
in
a
car
on
foot
and
on
a
bike,
but
there
are
many
more
examples
of
changes
that
can
be
made
to
a
street
that
city
council,
the
state
legislature
and
the
mayoral
administration
should
consider
in
response
to
this
public
health
crisis.
O
O
We
can't
stop
all
crashes
overnight,
but
we
can
give
the
victims
of
crashes
a
better
chance
at
survival,
and
I
understand
that
city
council
does
not
have
a
voice
necessarily
in
the
state
legislature,
but
it's
important.
The
legislature
understands
the
problems
we
are
up
against
here,
and
your
collective
voice
on
this
issue
can
help
make
a
difference.
O
As
far
as
the
expansion
of
automated
speed
enforcement
program
is
concerned,
I
think
an
easy
ask
to
the
state
legislature
from
city
council
will
be
to
expand
it
into
school
zones
and
potentially
the
high
injury
network,
as
we've
seen
before
the
twelve
percent
of
city
streets,
where
eighty
percent
of
deadly
crashes
are
happening.
O
However,
I'd
like
to
point
out
the
obvious,
which
is
that
those
who
use
the
roads
most
are
the
most
likely
to
be
to
get
tickets
for
speeding
by
these
automated
enforcement
cameras
and
those
who
live
nearby.
Those
roads
where
the
cameras
are
are
probably
the
most
likely
to
to
use
them
to
use
those
roads,
and
there
are
commonalities
of
philadelphia's
deadliest
roads
that
we
have
to
keep
in
mind
and
the
main
issues
there
are.
O
They
were
poorly
designed,
large
arterials,
mostly
through
low-income
neighborhoods.
Many
of
those
roads
were
designed
during
the
mid-century
urban
renewal
process
and
were
designed
to
give
people
in
the
suburbs
easy
fast.
Access
in
and
out
of
the
city
neighborhoods
have
since
been
built
up
around
these
roads,
mostly
in
north
northeast
and
southwest
philadelphia.
O
It's
important
to
note
that
that
the
poor
design
of
these
roads
is
not
the
fault
of
the
residents
in
those
neighborhoods.
They
are
the
victims
of
poor
inequitable
design,
the
pedestrians
bicyclists
and
motorists
who
have
died
while
using
these
roads
and
their
families
have
suffered
because
of
poor
city
planning.
That
did
not
have
them
in
mind
in
the
first
place,
and
for
that
reason
I
think
it's
important
first,
that
philadelphia
moved
toward
an
automated
speed
enforcement
approach
that
encompasses
the
entire
city.
O
O
O
So
second,
the
administration
and
city
council
need
to
re-prioritize
the
engineering
of
our
most
dangerous
roads.
Thanks
to
the
work
of
the
office
of
transportation,
infrastructure
and
sustainability,
we
know
where
these
deadly
crashes
are
taking
place.
We
know
what
needs
to
be
done
to
the
physical
environment.
To
curb
this
problem.
O
The
city's
complete
streets
guide
also
provides
details
to
understand
the
options
available
for
different
kinds
of
streets
in
the
city.
So
re-engineering
is
a
long-term
solution
to
out
of
the
situation.
I
think
we
currently
find
ourselves
in.
I
know,
and
this
has
been
discussed.
Not
all
engineering
changes
are
popular,
especially
upon
first
glance
for
a
variety
of
reasons.
O
The
popularity
of
a
particular
project
should,
of
course
be
considered,
and
the
neighbors
should
have
a
say
in
how
that
project
is
installed
in
our
community,
but
it's
important
to
put
high
consideration
on
the
lives
that
have
been
lost
to
traffic
violence
and
those
that
will
be
lost
in
the
future.
If
nothing
is
done,
you
know
I
remember
at
the
in
when
we
started
counting
when
we
started
counting
the
number
of
fatalities
in
in
philadelphia.
O
It
was
the
beginning
of
2017.
I
looked
at
the
numbers
historically,
and
it
was
I
remember
january
1st
2017.
I
said
to
myself
by
the
end
of
this
year
about
100
people
will
not
be
living
in
philadelphia
anymore
because
of
this
issue,
and
it's
it's
just
horrible
to
think
about.
But
it's
it's
the
reality,
so
we
have
to
consider
those
at
least
100
people
that
are
being
killed
every
year
and
last
year,
obviously
much
much
worse.
O
So.
Lastly,
although
I
know
we
were
in
the
midst
of
a
budget
crisis,
I
would
implore
city
council
to
consider
restoring
funds
to
vision,
zero
and
the
complete
streets
activities
that
were
previously
cut.
O
One
of
mayor
kenny's
high
profile
commitments
when
he
took
office
in
2015..
So
I
know
chris
pohalski
sort
of
got
into
this,
but
I'm
gonna
sort
of
look
at
the
act,
the
numbers
that
were
cut
and
what
need
what
I
think
needs
to
be
restored.
So,
as
the
fiscal
year
2022
budget
begins
to
be
shaped,
I
think
the
kennedy
administration
city
council
should
consider
the
following
to
help
curb
the
increase
in
vehicular
deaths.
O
O
What
what
that
means
later
on,
if
you
have
any
questions,
restore
425
thousand
dollars
to
otis,
to
conduct
vision,
zero
planning
and
design
projects
restored,
two
million
dollars
to
vision,
zero
in
the
streets,
department,
capital
budget
and
maintain
staffing
levels
in
otis
and
the
streets
department
to
carry
out
the
2025
vision,
zero
action
plan-
and
I
understand
that's-
that's
a
lot
and
I
know
everyone's
asking
for
these
things,
some
more
specifically
than
others,
but
I
figure
as
a
not
an
official
person.
You
know
not
a
member
of
government,
I
can.
O
I
could
be
the
one
to
kind
of
throw
that
out
there.
So
you
know,
like
I
said
earlier,
you
can't
really
rely
on
everyone
to
have
empathy
when
a
crash
takes
place.
Nor
can
you
cover
this
problem
with
stepped-up
police
enforcement,
but
you
can
rely
on
safe
engineering
standards
and
that
should
be
the
focus
of
the
work
around
the
hit
and
run
epidemic.
So,
thank
you
very
much
for
having
me.
C
Thank
you
both
for
your
testimony.
I
I
greatly
appreciate
it.
Thank
you
for
your
patience
as
well,
too.
I
know
that
this
has
been
a
long
hearing
on
an
emotional
rollercoaster
and,
more
importantly,
thank
you
for
your
solution-based
initiatives.
Both
are
offering
recommendations
and
suggestions
that
I
think
that
we
should
consider.
C
Of
course,
you
submitted
written
testimony
as
well
too,
so
you
can
definitely
assure
that
my
office,
as
well
as
other
members
of
council,
will
be
following
up
to
put
us
in
a
position
where
we
can
continue
to
brainstorm,
because
it
seems
like
just
after
listening
today
that
the
biggest
thing
that
we
need
to
do
is
capital
investment
and
infrastructure.
C
We
have
other
solutions
as
far
as
band-aids
like
cameras
and
things
that
we
feel
like
can
be
a
temporary
solution
for
right
now,
but
it
seems
like
the
direction
that
we
need
to
go
in,
based
on
all
the
testimony,
and
all
of
us
acknowledging
that
this
is
a
serious
crisis,
is
capital
investment
and
infrastructure.
I
think
that
that's
the
the
common
theme
that
we've
heard
from
all
the
experts
across
the
board,
as
it
relates
to
mechanisms
and
ways
that
we
can
move
forward
to
create
systemic
and
permanent
change.
C
So
before
we
close
out.
If
you
want
to
add
anything
or
comment
on
that,
please
feel
free
to
add
that
to
the
record,
and
then
we
have
to
transition
to
public
comment.
C
N
Council
member,
I
would
just
say
that
the
old
the
old
saying
goes,
an
ounce
of
prevention
is
worth
a
pound
of
cure.
So
I
think
that
I
think
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
and
I
would
note
that
I
think
cameras
do
play
a
role,
particularly
in
my
side
of
the
the
house
in
terms
of
holding
people
accountable
after
they
have
made
had
a
done
done,
something
you
know
where
somebody
has
been
killed.
N
I'll
specifically
note
that
in
the
area
of
temple
university,
the
the
cameras
that
temple
university
has
specifically
related
to
broad
street
north
broad
street,
that
area
they're
they've
been
invaluable
in
having
successful
prosecutions
in
a
number
of
recent
cases.
So
I
would
just
note
that-
and
I
appreciate
really
appreciate
the
time
to
testify
today,.
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
being
here.
I
don't
know
if
you
wanted
to
add
anything
randy,
but
if
not
I'll
pass
it
to
the
clerk,
so
she
could
transition
us
to
the
next
part
of
the
meeting
today.
C
Well,
thank
you.
Both.
We
appreciate
your
testimony.
We
look
forward
to
working
with
both
parties,
so
we
can
collectively
brainstorm.
How
do
we
really
look
to
try
to
bring
some
systematic
change?
So
thank
you
for
being
here.
Thank
you
for
your
patience
and,
most
importantly,
thank
you
for
your
tireless
work
on
this
important
and
crucial
issue.
We
appreciate
it
madam
clerk,
I'm
sorry,
colleagues
or
is
there
any
other
member
of
council
who
would
like
to
comment
on
this
panel
or
on
this
bill?
C
Hearing
none,
madam
clerk,
can
you
please
call
the
set
of
witnesses.
A
Yes,
we
have
three
people
signed
up
for
public
comment:
emma
young
suzanna
hall
maynard
and
amelia
rothermell,
who
needs
to
be
connected
by
phone,
but
I
believe
emma
and
sue
are
already
connected.
C
So
yes,
please
state
your
name
for
the
record
and
you
may
begin
with
your
testimony.
A
Rothermel,
I'm
a
senior
criminal
justice
student
at
temple
university
with
a
focus
in
law
and
political
science.
In
my
time
as
an
undergrad,
I
spent
several
years
learning
about
the
issues
in
our
criminal
justice
system,
with
management
of
vehicular
accidents
on
the
police,
reporting,
judicial
review
and
political
sides
on
the
issue.
We
have
not
done
enough.
I
want
to
take
the
time
today
to
thank
councilman
thomas
for
holding
this
hearing
to
address
the
need
for
education
surrounding
hypnosis.
C
Thank
you
that
was
quick.
Thank
you.
We
appreciate
it.
Thank
you
for
your
patience
as
well,
too,
and
thank
you
for
your
passion
around
this
issue.
We
appreciate
it.
Yes,.
G
C
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
testimony.
We
appreciate
it.
We
appreciate
your
advocacy
as
well
too.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
clerk.
Can
you
please
call
the
next
witness.
A
A
spinal
cord
injury
takes
away
a
person's
independence
in
all
aspects
of
everyday
life,
from
washing
and
dressing
to
eating
and
drinking
to
managing
bowel
and
bladder
activities.
The
effects
on
the
victim
and
the
family
cannot
be
overstated.
People
need
to
move
or
renovate
their
homes
so
that
they
can
be
accessible.
A
Incomes
disappear
because
the
victim
can't
work
anymore
and
their
family
has
to
care
for
them
costs
of
living
increased
dramatically.
I
also
spent
time
on
the
brain
injury
unit
there
and
I'll
never
forget.
There
was
this
handsome
young
ivy
league
student,
who
was
the
victim
of
a
hit
and
run,
and
his
hospital
room
was
covered
with
posters
that
his
lacrosse
team
had
made
for
him
and
he
didn't
recognize
his
parents
anymore.
C
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
testimony.
We
appreciate
it
and
we
appreciate
your
work
and
your
expertise
as
it
relates
to
this
area,
as
well
as
the
the
people
that
you're
working
with
on
a
consistent
basis.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much.
Madam
clerk,
would
you
please
call
the
next
witness.
A
There
are
no
other
members
signed
up
for
public
comment
today.
C
Thank
you,
madam
clerk.
So
are
there
any
other
members
of
council
who
would
like
to
comment
on
any
other
would
like
to
comment
on
this
resolution
hearing
none.
I
want
to
thank
all
the
panels
and
witnesses
for
your
participation
today.
We
value
your
opinion.
This
concludes
the
business
before
the
committee
of
public
safety.
Today
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
all
of
my
colleagues
as
well
as
our
chair,
councilmember
jones,
as
well
as
my
partner
clerk
for
the
day
samantha.
C
I
appreciate
you
and
all
of
my
staff,
the
tech
staff
and
staff
involved
in
this
to
to
make
this
happen
and
to
highlight
such
an
important
conversation
and,
most
importantly,
thank
you
to
the
victims
and
the
families
who
took
the
time
to
share
their
narratives
and
their
stories.
All
the
facts
and
all
the
experts
were
great,
but
I
feel
like
myself
and
a
lot
of
the
people
who
were
able
to
hear
the
testimony
today.
What
will
what
will
remain
with
us?
C
The
longest
is
the
pain
from
the
families
who
talked
about
suffering
and
being
victims
from
these
unfortunate
situations.
So
thank
you
everybody.
This
concludes
our
business.
For
the
day
have
a
good
rest
of
the
day.