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The Committee on Transportation and Public Utilities of the Council of the City of Philadelphia held a Public Hearing on Monday, January 23, 2023 to hear testimony on the following items:
220981
Resolution authorizing the Committee on Transportation and Public Utilities to hold hearings to examine the approach and expected impacts of SEPTA’s Bus Revolution service reconfiguration.
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F
Good
morning
Mr
chair
good
morning,
colleagues,
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
join
the
transportation
committee
this
morning
to
talk
about
a
very
important
issue
to
constituents
across
the
city
of
Philadelphia
I'm,
looking
forward
to
this
hearing
and
also
thankful
for
the
presence
of
the
chair
of
our
Philadelphia
delegation,
a
state
representative,
Morgan
cephas.
Thank
you.
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A
By
continuing
to
be
in
the
meeting,
you
are
considering
to
being
recorded
additionally
prior
to
recognizing
members
for
their
questions
or
comments
they
have
for
Witnesses.
I
will
note
for
the
record
at
this
time
that
we
will
use
the
chat
feature
available
at
Microsoft
teams
to
allow
members
to
insignify
that
they
wish
to
be
recognized
in
order
to
comply
with
the
sunshine
act.
The
chat
feature
must
only
be
used
for
this
purpose.
A
You
know.
For
me,
this
hearing
is
about
information
and
making
sure
members
of
city
council,
as
well
as
the
wider
public,
have
information
and
the
overall
plan,
as
it
relates
to
the
impact
of
the
SEPTA
Revolution
plan.
As
chairperson
of
this
Transportation
I've
always
been
I'm
an
advocate
and
the
support
of
all
things.
Septa
I
know
we
have
one
of
the
greatest
transportation
systems
here
in
the
country.
A
C
Thank
you
so
much
Mr
chairman
and
welcome
leader
cephas
for
joining
us
SEPTA
is
a
joint
city
and
state
Regional
issue.
So
thank
you
for
attending
my
interest
in
having
this
hearing
Mr
chairman
and
colleagues,
is
to
make
sure
we
have
a
phenomenological
approach
to
this
process
of
a
revolution,
biceps
phenomenological,
meaning
that
all
stakeholders
are
heard
from
particularly
the
marginalized
groups
within
our
community
stakeholders
such
as
senior
citizens,
who
might
be
impact.
C
C
C
For
me
in
my
district
in
the
fourth
councilmatic
district,
I
want
to
know
that
from
Main
Street
to
Market
Street
people
are
talked
to
from
Andorra
to
Art
Street
people
are
heard
from,
and
so
that
these
changes
that,
whether
it's
the
G
bus
or
seven
or
whatever
in
the
city's
changes
that
people
know
how
to
get
to
and
from
work,
how
to
get
to
and
from
worship
how
to
get
to
and
from
doctor's
appointment
classes
and
the
like.
So
I
think
Revolution
is
one
word
I.
C
C
But
finally,
I
want
us
to
remember
that
what
might
be
a
simple
change
in
a
route
to
us
might
be
catastrophic
to
a
kid
that
didn't
want
to
go
to
school
in
the
first
place,
to
a
person
that
might
skip
a
doctor's
appointment
because
it's
too
complicated
to
get
there
to
the
person
that
has
the
shift
change
that
kicks
off
at
12
midnight
that
must
Traverse
a
public
transportation
system.
So
I
look
forward
to
the
robust
discussion.
C
A
G
Thank
you,
chairman
Johnson,
so,
first
and
foremost,
I
want
to
thank
you,
chairman
for
allowing
this
to
be
a
joint
conversation
with
the
Philadelphia
delegation.
As
chairman
Jones
stated,
this
system
is
funded
both
locally
as
well
as
state,
and
it's
critical
that
we
are
having
the
same
conversation
and
similar
conversation,
because
we
all
represent
the
same
population.
The
same
philadelphians.
G
Before
I
give
my
remarks,
I'd
like
to
acknowledge
some
of
my
colleagues
that
have
joined
the
call
we
have
chairman
Ed
Nielsen,
we
have
representative
Joe
hoenstein,
who
is
the
secretary
of
the
Philadelphia
delegation,
and
we
have
Vice
chair
Danilo
Burgos,
who
is
also
joined
us
so
again.
I
also
want
to
thank
councilman
chairman
Jones,
as
well
as
chairwoman
councilwoman
Catherine
Gilmer
Richardson,
for
offering
this
resolution
as
a
direct
result
of
community
of
a
community
out
apart
from
the
windshield
residence
Association.
G
As
we
all
know,
SEPTA
has
been
briefing
elected
in
our
Chambers
privately
behind
closed
doors,
but
once
they
begin
having
conversations
with
the
community,
they
then
begin
to
recognize
that
this
needed
to
be
a
broader
conversation
about
the
impact
of
the
ships
and
our
transportation
system.
So,
first
and
foremost,
I
do
want
to
thank
SEPTA,
for
you
know
just
taking
the
Bold
step
to
have
a
conversation
about
how
our
system
can
better
support
communities
not
just
by
way
of
cost
cutting,
but
from
an
equity
and
an
access
standpoint.
G
We
all
know
of
quality
in
an
accessible
transportation
system,
has
the
ability
to
one
move
people
out
of
poverty
to
dictate
the
economic
viability
of
a
city
as
well
as
determining
Health
outcomes,
particularly
as
we
come
out
of
covid.
We
all
know
a
significant
portion
of
philadelphians
travel
throughout
the
surrounding
County.
So
we
have
to
you,
know,
be
cognizant
and
be
intentional
about
what
bus
stops.
We
are
removing
the
increase
in
time
it
will
take
to
get
to
and
from
and
ensure
that
we're
doing
it
in
a
public
in
a
transparent
way.
G
G
So
that
was,
that
has
been
a
real
live
situation
for
many
communities
across
Philadelphia,
and
this
Bus
Revolution
again
really
needs
to
be
thought
through
needs
to
be
intentional
and
needs
to
at
the
very
Cornerstone
of
the
decisions
be
dictated
in
in
partnership
with
the
communities
that
you
know
are
throughout
Philadelphia
who's,
going
to
have
a
direct
impact
on
so
again.
I.
Thank
you,
chairman
Johnson,
for
allowing
us
to
have
a
collaborative
conversation
and
I
look
forward
to
Future
conversations
around
topics
that
impact
all
philadelphians
and,
last
but
not
least,
go
Eagles.
A
I
I
I
also
want
to
thank
the
state
representatives
who
are
on
the
phone
I
caught
some
of
the
names
and
I
apologize
if
I
missed
anyone
before
some
the
leader
of
cephas,
it's
wonderful
to
see
representative
cephas
here
also
representatives,
Nielsen,
hohenstein,
Parker,
Burgos
and
others
that
may
join
and
I'm
very
glad
to
have
local
and
state
representatives
here
on
this
fall.
I
know
many
members,
Council
and
your
staff
have
met
with
the
Bus
Revolution
project
team
and
I
appreciate
your
willingness
to
get
involved
and
to
share
information
with
your
constituents.
I
That
is
the
number
of
hours
on
an
annual
basis
that
we
provide
and
I
agree
with
you
that
we
are
one
of
the
best
Transit
agencies
in
the
country
because
of
the
volume
of
service
that
we
provide,
as
well
as
other
things,
and
we
want
to
put
those
hours
of
service
into
the
best
use
for
all
of
our
Riders
across
our
city
and
across
our
region.
Remarkably,
this
is
the
first
time
SEPTA
has
performed
a
comprehensive
review
of
our
bus
routes,
since
the
authority
was
created
in
1964.
I
Bus
Revolution
reached
an
important
Milestone
last
October,
with
the
release
of
the
initial
draft
Network
that
synthesized
SEPTA's
goals
of
service
reliability,
increased
access
to
opportunity,
ease
of
use
and
budget
neutrality
with
the
feedback
and
priorities
we
heard
from
our
customers
during
the
early
phases
of
the
project
following
a
very
productive
fall
Outreach
campaign,
during
which
we
hosted
dozens
of
in-person
and
virtual
meetings.
We
reserved
received
over
5
000
comments
from
Riders
residents
and
stakeholders.
I
The
project
team
is
reviewing
feedback
and
working
to
integrate
changes
into
the
further
refined
draft
plan
that
we
will
be
sharing
with
the
public
in
March
in
advance
of
another
round
of
public
meetings.
This
spring
I
want
everyone
to
know
that
this
is
a
work
in
progress
or
looking
at
a
draft.
Now
there
will
be.
J
I
Draft
and
then
there
will
be
another
public
hearing,
so
this
is
still
in
process
and
I
just
I
want
to
emphasize
before
we
go
into
the
slides
which
we're
about
to
do
that.
We
are
exactly
where
we
want
to
be
right
now
in
this
process
and
public
engagement,
we
are
hearing
and
we
will
continue
to
hear
from
people
and
there'll
be
more
opportunities
for
that,
and
this
is
vital
to
ensuring
that
the
resulting
bus
network
is
more
useful
to
more
people.
I
Foreign,
so
this
is
why
this
effort
is
so
important
to
us
right
now.
Septa's
bus
network
has
remained
largely
unchanged
in
the
last
60
years,
and
transportation
systems
must
be
dynamic
to
reflect
changing
needs
and
conditions.
Our
bus
network
is
not
responding
to
current
Rider
needs
and
the
impacts
are
evident
in
underperforming
routes
and
service
that
does
not
fulfill
our
core
mission
to
equitably
connect
people
to
opportunity
and
efficient
efficiently
linked
communities.
When
people
lose
confidence
in
their
bus
service,
they
go
elsewhere.
I
If
they
have
other
choices
they
take
them,
but
or
worse,
they
don't
make
trips
at
all,
and
this
denies
people
essential
Mobility.
The
simple
fact
is
that
the
current
bus
network
is
broken.
It
is
not
working
well
for
as
many
people
as
we
needed
to
it
was
conceived
at
a
different
time
and
it
has
not
kept
pace
with
the
impacts
of
increased
traffic,
the
changing
land
use
patterns
and
the
different
ways
and
reasons
people
travel
on
Septa
now
and
if
we
are
to
continue
serving
the
needs
of
our
customers,
particularly
those
in
transit,
dependent
communities.
I
So
what
it's
important
that
everyone
understands
that,
even
before
the
pandemic,
the
current
bus
Network
had
become
increasingly
outdated.
Here
we
see
between
2013
and
2019
set
the
bus
service
became
slower
and
less
reliable,
while
operating
operating
costs
increased
by
10
percent
in
the
seven
years
prior
to
the
pandemic.
Septa
bus
ridership
declined
more
than
13
percent
and
that
doesn't
even
tell
the
full
story.
During
those
years,
75
of
bus
routes
lost
at
least
a
quarter
of
their
ridership.
I
I
Buses
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia
average
only
eight
miles
an
hour,
and
just
so
you
can
compare
that
other
speeds
of
similar
cities
across
the
country,
their
bus
average
speeds
are
13
to
14
miles
per
hour,
so
we
are
40
percent
slower
on
our
next
slide.
We
can
see
that
it's
only
gotten
worse
since
the
pandemic.
I
I
By
making
the
system
more
frequent
throughout
the
day
evening
and
weekends,
more
people
can
use
the
service
for
jobs
that
happen
outside
the
typical
nine
to
five
Monday
through
Friday,
by
making
straighter
routes
that
are
more
reliable
and
easier
to
use.
If
we
do
these
things,
we
know
we
can
increase
ridership.
I
The
city
was
built
around
Transit
and
has
grown
in
the
past
decade.
We
know
we
can
bring
more
people
to
our
system.
More
ridership
leads
to
better
service
and
improved
safety
on
our
system
as
well.
I
myself
live
in
the
city
and
I
ride.
The
bus
I
have
waited
for
delayed
buses
that
have
gotten
caught
in
traffic
that
have
had
long
circuitous
Roots
other
times.
I've
missed
buses
in
the
evening
and
when
that
happens,
I've
had
to
wait
20
to
30
minutes
for
another
bus
to
come,
I
understand
what
others
are
going
through
as
well.
I
I
K
Thank
you,
Leslie
and
thank
you,
Catherine
Johnson,
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
today,
I'm
going
to
go
back
a
little
bit
to
the
to
2021
when
we
started
this
project
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
we
sort
of
came
to
create
this
initial
draft
Network
early
on
in
the
process.
We
conducted
a
survey.
This
was
in
Fall
of
2021
and
we
asked
people
what
they
most
wanted
out
of
their
Transit
service
and
people
indicated
their
priorities
were
frequency
and
reliability.
K
They
wanted
service
to
be
predictable
and
they
wanted
it
to
come
on
a
regular
basis.
So
many
of
the
changes
that
we
made
in
this
initial
draft
were
really
trying
to
hone
in
on
on
a
frequent
Network
that
we
could
run
reliably.
There
are
obviously
other
things
we
need
to
balance
in
this
draft,
but
frequency
and
reliability
for
our
guiding
stars
and
what
we
were
really
going
for.
With
this
first
draft,
we
received
over
10
000
responses
to
the
survey
it
was
online.
L
K
K
This
higher
level
of
frequency
does
speak
to
a
higher
quality
of
a
rural
Network
and
gives
people
more
predictability
and
ultimately,
more
reliability.
The
number
of
service
hours
3.8
million,
is
flat.
We
are
not
reducing
service
with
this
plan.
Obviously
we
are
moving
service
around.
We
are
taking
routes
away.
K
So
there
are,
you
know,
service,
Productions
and
those
in
that
sense,
but
as
a
network,
this
is
a
budget,
a
neutral
project
both
in
terms
of
cost
but
also
in
terms
of
service
hours
and
I,
also
want
to
know
that
the
number
of
service
hours
in
each
County
was
kept
the
same.
We
are
not
shifting
service
hours
from
the
city
to
the
suburbs,
or
vice
versa.
That
was
a
rule
that
we
established
early
on
in
the
process
and
that
we
are
following
everyone.
K
A
week
system,
knowing
that,
knowing
that
people
don't
just
use
buses
for
work
trips
during
the
week,
but
for
lots
of
different
reasons
on
the
weekends,
including
work,
we
really
wanted
to
build
a
seven
day
week
service
to
make
it
as
as
useful
for
as
many
people
as
possible.
And
here
you
can
see,
really
huge
benefits
of
this
type
of
network.
K
We
are
also
looking
at
how
the
draft
Network
affects
it
affects
access
to
things
like
hospitals
and
schools,
which
are
locations
that
many
people
have
pointed
out
are
our
key
destinations
for
them.
23,
there's
a
23
increase
in
the
number
of
hospitals
accessible
via
the
frequent
Transit
Network,
and
then
15
increase
in
the
number
of
schools
accessible
by
the
frequent
Transit
Network.
So
again,
by
providing
a
higher
level
of
frequent
service
throughout
the
system
we
increase
access
to
all
of
these
key
locations
in
the
city.
N
L
K
To
drill
down
into
certain
areas
to
really
start
measuring
the
impacts
of
this
draft
Network
versus
the
existing
Network.
So
here
we
look
specifically
at
West
Philadelphia,
which
we
know
is
a
huge
area
and
with
lots
of
different
neighborhoods
and
lots
of
different
areas.
But
we
do
want
to
note
that
there
are
some
key
improvements
here,
based
on
some
some
of
the
things
that
we've
heard
from
folks.
K
So
everyone
benefits
from
this
type
of
approach,
I'm,
gonna
pivot.
Now
to
talk
about
some
of
the
engagement
that
we've
been
busy
with
over
the
last
few
months,
knowing
full.
Well
that
you
know
people
have
you
know,
let
us
know
that
you
know
they
may
expect
us
to
do
more.
They
expect
you
know
different
types
of
meetings
with
perhaps
a
different
type
of
format,
and
we
are
certainly
open
to
all
of
those
things.
K
Right
now,
we've
received
more
than
5
000
comments,
and
this
includes
comments
received
at
both
in
person
and
virtual
events,
as
well
as
those
that
we've
gotten
through
our
project
email.
We
are
not
closing
the
comment
period.
We
are
still
getting
comments.
I
got
some
this
morning.
All
of
these
comments
get
reviewed
and
and
will
be
put
with
other
comments
so
that
we
can
begin
making
revisions
to
the
draft
Network
so
that
we
we
can
and
we
can
make
it
as
as
responsive
as
we
can.
K
We
also
prior
to
launching
our
our
engagement
phase
in
October
we
did
approve.
We
did
aggressively
push
the
word
out
about
the
project
because
we
knew
that
we
were
not.
We
didn't
have
the
awareness
that
we
needed
to.
We
placed
physical
ads
on
the
inside
and
outside
of
our
buses
about
half
of
them.
We
also
use
digital
screens
on
a
number
of
our
buses.
K
We
handed
out
more
than
10
000
Flyers
at
bus
stops
local
community
events,
Transportation
centers,
and
that
type
of
thing
we
place
poster
posters
and
stations
along
the
Broad,
Street
and
market
Frankfurt
lines,
digital
posters
and-
and
you
know,
hard
hard
copy.
We
shared
information
on
bus,
shelter
ads
including
digital
screens,
and
we
pushed
information
out
through
our
SEPTA
mobile
app
and
third-party
app.
N
I
I
We
know
that
some
of
the
proposed
changes
are
significant,
especially
for
communities
that
are
accustomed
to
having
specific
routes
on
specific
streets.
However,
these
changes
will
improve
the
overall
efficiency
and
reliability
of
our
bus
service
and
deliver
more
and
better
coverage
to
communities
that
have
not
had
access
to
high
frequency
bus
service.
I
This
initial
draft
is
not
final,
nor
does
it
achieve
every
metric
and
goal
we
set
out
for
Bus
Revolution.
That
is
why
we
initiated
this
unprecedented
public
engagement
and
Outreach
effort.
We
appreciate
your
help
in
it
and,
through
all
of
this
feedback,
customers
are
telling
us
that
they
like
to
increase
bus
frequency,
especially
on
weekends,
and
find
the
straighter
more
direct
route.
Simpler
and
more
consistent,
they've
also
shared
their
concerns
about
the
emphasis
on
transfers
and
increased
walking
distances.
I
I
I
We
will
make
materials
clearer
and
easier
to
understand.
School
service
will
be
more
clearly
identified,
we'll
continue
to
partner
with
council
members
offices
and
local
trusted
Community
organizations
on
Outreach,
and
we
plan
to
Target
additional
Outreach
in
communities
with
low
engagement
in
the
fall
to
ensure
that
all
voices
are
being
heard.
We
may
not
be
able
to
make
every
requested
change,
but
please
know
that
every
single
comment
and
request
is
being
evaluated
fairly
and
in
relation
to
bus
revolutions
goals
and
priorities.
I
I
As
you
can
see,
we
have
a
very
full
calendar
this
year,
beginning
with
the
work
we
are
doing
to
update
the
draft
Network
in
preparation
for
more
public
Outreach
this
spring
and
we
are
working
toward
public
hearings.
This
fall
with
the
goal
of
having
the
new
network
operational
in
the
fall
of
2024
a
year
and
a
half
from
now
SEPTA's
bus
service
is
the
foundation
of
our
system.
Half
the
trips
taken
each
day
on
Septa
are
made
on
our
buses.
I
We
owe
it
to
ourselves
and
our
Riders
to
make
it
the
best
service
it
can
be.
As
I
said
earlier,
the
current
bus
network
is
unsustainable.
We
have
one
chance
right
now
to
reverse
course
and
develop
a
bus
Network
that
works
for
the
most
people
or
we
can
continue
along
the
current
course
where
customers
are
telling
us
by
how
they
choose
to
ride
or
not
ride
that
the
bus
network
no
longer
serves
their
needs.
I
We
can
make
targeted
changes
together
to
make
bus
service
more
frequent
and
reliable
to
grow
ridership
to
increase
access
to
opportunity,
or
we
can
face
the
certainty
in
several
years
of
being
forced
to
make
service
cuts
for
financial
reasons.
If
bus
ridership
does
not
rebound
I
hope
this
Council,
our
customers
in
the
region
will
join
us
in
taking
the
first
option.
I
The
city
of
Philadelphia
has
been
a
tremendous
partner
for
SEPTA
and
we
value
the
opportunity
to
serve
your
residents
every
day
through
collaborative
engagement
with
our
customers,
your
constituents,
we
can
better
create
a
bus
Network
for
everyone.
We
look
forward
to
partnering
with
you
in
your
offices
to
drive
the
next
round
of
public
engagement
to
ensure
that
every
voice
is
heard
thanks
again
for
hosting
this
hearing,
and
we
look
forward
to
answering
questions.
A
K
All
right,
thank
you.
Councilman
Johnson
I
can
answer
that,
so
there
were
22
in-person,
open
houses
held
and
there
were
13
virtual
community
conversations
held.
The
open
houses
were
held
all
over
the
region.
The
majority
of
them
were
in
the
city.
We
can
get
you
a
full
list
of
all
the
locations
specifically,
but
we
held
them.
We
held
them
all
over
the
place.
We
did.
Typically
when
we
have
meetings,
we
have
them
at
our
headquarters.
K
We
knew
that
wasn't
going
to
work,
so
we
tried
to
have
we
had
to
try
to
have
them.
You
know
all
over
I
know
we
had
a
few
one
or
two
in
your
District
I
know
we
had
a
couple
in
councilman
Jones's
district
and
we
tried
to
have
at
least
one
in
each
councilman
district,
and
you
know
we
got
input
on
those
locations
and
we're
happy
to
work
with
your
offices
as
well
as
state
delegates
to
identify
alternative
locations
that
may
generate
higher
turnout.
A
O
A
Work
with
SEPTA,
if
they
choose
to
regarding
a
whatever
it's
a
town
hall
information
session
in
their
own
individual
districts.
If
that's
something
I've
been
taking
consideration
and
doing
a
commitment
to
for
members
who
are
actually
interested
again,
this
is
a
big
undertaking.
I've
been
recognizing
the
data
that
it
said
that
these
routes
have
been
in
place
before
SEPTA
have
even
taken
over
and
so
obviously
we're
going
to
be
making
some
changes,
which
are
huge
and
it
seems
like
overdue.
A
I
K
I
think,
let's
answer
the
question,
but
I
think
that
reliability
of
service
again
we're
very
because
we're
operating
on
so
that
we
have
so
many
routes
operating
on
so
many
streets,
we're
very
we're
very
prone
to
detouring
services,
and
if
People's
route
gets
detoured
a
lot,
then
they
lose
faith
in
that
room
coming
I
think
there
are
also
things
that
we
know
that
we
have
to
work
on
so
things
like
communication.
Communicating
detours,
routings
things
like
that,
so
this
project
is
not
happening
in
a
vacuum
because
not
every
breed
is
changing.
K
A
Uber
there's
like
a
particular
population
of
individuals
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia.
That's
actually
that
advocates
for
that
type
of
position
here
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia,
less
less
utilizing
traffic,
that's
I'm,
sorry,
less
utilizing
cars
and
public
transportation.
Do
you
think
that
has
to
have
an
impact
on
people
not
taking
SEPTA,
as
they
have
traditionally
have
done
in
the
past,
and
and
also
that
The
Exodus
of
people
leaving
the
city
of
Philadelphia
through
gentrification
and
moving
to
other
parts
of
the
like?
A
A
lot
of
residents
and
I
live
in
Delaware
County
right,
not
in
the
city
anymore
and
the
new
population?
They
some
say
you
know
by
you
know:
that's
why
we
had
a
key
for
bike:
Lanes
walking
the
center
city
as
opposed
to
catching
the
bus.
Any
data
around
that
you
think
impacted
the
ridership.
Just
wanted
to
know.
I
Yeah
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
reasons,
we're
seeing
reduced
ridership
and
what
I
do
know
is
that
cities
where
people
want
to
live
where
they're
moving
to
that
are
increasing
in
population.
They
all
cite
a
reliable
transit
system,
and
so
I
am
confident
that,
as
we
increase
our
reliability,
we'll
reduce
people.
I
You
know
timetable
than
what
our
schedule
right
now
has,
for
instance,
on
weekends,
when
we
don't
run
as
frequent
service.
If
you
need
to
get
somewhere
on
a
Sunday,
you
may
look
to
Uber
if
that's
something
you
can
afford
and-
and
that
might
be
a
better
option
for
you.
So
I
know
for
sure
that
healthy,
robust
livable
communities
where
people
want
to
live
and
work
and
attract
new
Talent,
they
all
have
reliable
Transit
if
they're
a
metropolitan.
You
know
Urban
type
of
region,
and
so
we
know
that
we
wanted.
I
K
G
K
A
question
that
we've
gotten
a
lot
of
councilman
regarding
development
and
how
you
know
we
have
a
lot
of
neighborhoods
that
are
growing
and
changing
and
how
you
know.
How
are
you
removing
service
when
the
neighborhood's
growing
I
think
you
know
when
we
started
to
look
at
this
project
in
the
mid-2010s,
the
city,
the
city
was
growing
right
and
you
know
potentially
still
is,
but
but
ridership
was
dropping
at
least
on
buses.
K
So
when
we
started
looking
at
this,
it
was
we
were
already
looking
at
less
people
find
our
system
more
less
less
people,
don't
aren't
finding
our
system
as
useful
as
they
used
to.
Let's
figure
out
why
I
think
that
the
the
covert
the
introduction
of
covet
into
the
situation
added
a
layer,
a
new
layer?
Nobody
really
was
working
from
home
eight
years
ago,
so
there's
new
things,
but
Leslie
brought
up
weekend
ridership
and
we
think
that's
something.
K
That's
really
important
to
note,
because
we
historically
have
reduced
service
quite
a
bit
on
the
weekends.
But
if
you
look
at
the
way,
our
ridership
is
rebounded
ridership
on
the
weekends
as
well
as
during
off-peak
evening,
hours
has
held
stronger.
It's
not
obviously
as
high
during
weekdays,
but
we,
we
think,
there's
a
lot
to
gain
by
running
a
system
like
this,
because
the
weekends
are
when
people
take
discretionary
trips,
which
is
probably
when
they're
more
likely
to
drive
or
use
another
mode.
So
we
can.
We
will
continue
to
look
at
this.
K
I
There's
also
the
decisions
we
can
make
to
make
our
service
faster.
You
know
I
cited
that
weren't
on
average
of
eight
miles
per
hour,
where
other
cities
are
at
13
and
14.
That
makes
a
big
difference,
and
so
what
we
can
do
in
working
together
with
you
and
others
to
increase
that
speed
will
help
awesome.
A
We
talk
about
frequency
and
we
also
talk
about
being
on
time.
I
know
from
doing
a
lot
of
development
projects
in
my
district
and
also
we're
working
on
slow
zones
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia.
Where
we're
eliminating
long,
we
may
eliminate
lanes
for
bike
Lanes,
which,
which
is
great
right,
but
also
now
you
don't
have
two
lanes
of
traffic.
You
have
one
lane
of
traffic
right
and
that's
taking
into
consideration
timing
right
to
kind
of
slow
things
down
a
little
bit
right.
A
How
has
that
impacted?
The
frequency
upset
the
buses
right
and
then
also
and
I
I
think
I
saw
Michael
Carroll
on
here
as
well
and
I
think
about
the
office
of
Transportation.
How
is
the
is
there?
Coordination
between
streets,
department,
Water,
Department,
gas
and
streets
with
development
projects
are
taking
place
in
the
city
and
because
I
remember
one
time
it
would
take
me
a
living
Point,
Breeze
I,
remember
a
couple
years
ago:
pre-pandemic.
A
P
A
Way,
right
and
so
I'm
sure
that
happens
to
some
bus
routes
as
well,
where
individuals
are
doing
development
projects,
and
so
that's
a
two-fold
question:
one:
the
coordination
with
the
various
agencies
that
are
doing
construction
related
projects,
industry
and
then
also
when
we're
doing
slow
zones
and
we're
reducing
Lanes.
How
would
that
impact
it?
I
A
Q
Thank
you
yeah
again:
I'm
Mike,
Carroll
Deputy
managing
director
for
offensive
Transportation
infrastructure
and
sustainability.
I'll
first
apologize
that
I'm
joining
from
my
car.
But
it's
for
a
good
reason.
I'm
here
to
celebrate
the
78
million
dollar
Federal,
grant
that
we
were
awarded
with
Senator
Casey
today.
Q
But
we
want
to
make
sure
we're
doing
the
work
with
SEPTA
that
it's
not
going
to
be
debilitating
their
service,
and
so
our
experience
has
been
reasonably
good.
I
think
SEPTA
can
certainly
speak
from
their
perspective
on
their
experience
with
these
corridors,
but
in
general
we
do
not
want
to
bring
the
buses
to
a
halt
and
we're
very
careful
in
the
planning.
Q
So
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
goes
in
to
make
sure
we're
covering
each
other's
back.
You
know
if
we
have
things
that
come
up
where
that
coordination
isn't
good.
We
have
regular
monthly
meetings
at
a
staff
level
with
the
Transit
Improvement
committee.
The
transit
operations
committee,
where
engineers
and
planners
on
both
sides
can
work
things
out,
work
out
the
Kinks,
but
that
kind
of
work,
kind
of
keeping
the
pruning
in
place
is
only
helpful.
Q
If
we've
done
the
major
planning
like
we're
talking
about
today
and
ensure
that
people
have
the
best
system,
they
can
have
overall,
so
we're
we're
supporters
of
the
work
that
is
doing.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
the
feedback
is
there,
that
there
are
responses,
so
the
issues
that
come
up
with
the
public
I'll
just
make
one
more
comment:
I
might
get
pulled
away
soon.
Q
A
You
Mike
and
Mike
also
I,
think
on
Chestnut
Street
and
also
JFK
Boulevard,
there's
just
a
lane
dedicated
to
the
bus.
All
the
way
straight
through
so
I
think
that
would
be
an
example
of
that
partnership
in
terms
of
the
city
and
accept
it
and
make
sure
that
that
bus
gets
wherever
it
needs
to
go
on
time
and
as
frequent
as
it's
supposed
to
be,
because
I
remember
seeing
that
lane
language
can
I
get
in
that
lane
to
get
around,
but
I
want
to
follow
along,
so
I
don't
get
in
there.
Okay,
all
right!
A
I
I
think
Mike
answered
it
very
well.
I
I
would
just
add
it
had
been
mentioned
before
you
know
we
never
compromise
safety,
and
that
is
part
of
this
plan
as
well
and
having
this
straighter
bus
routes
from
chairman
Johnson.
What
you
just
described,
what
you
experienced
important
Breeze,
a
lot
of
that
congestion
and
backup
happens
when
you
have
to
make
terms.
So
we
are
truly
looking
at
straighter
bus
corridors
to
to
make
sure
that
our
frequency
and
that
the
speed
of
our
service
can
increase
in
a
safe
manner.
I
A
And
last
question
before
I
turn
this
over
to
my
colleagues:
what's
tell
me
the
economics
of
this
plan,
how
much
of
this
plan
cost
or
how
much
are
we
saving
with
this
plan,
because
I
know
it's
mentioned
by
a
couple
of
my
colleagues
early
on
that
we
also
don't
want
to
do
a
plan
economically
on
the
backs
of
the
community,
the
ridership
and
so
give
me
an
idea
and
we're
talking
about
increasing
transfers.
But
overall,
what
does
this
plan
look
like
in
terms
of
dollars
and
sets
in
terms
of
saving
or
cost.
A
I
Good,
because
that
is
really
an
important
message,
so
it
is
budget
neutral.
We
talk
about
it
in
hours
of
service,
it
will
be
the
same,
so
our
Personnel
costs.
You
know
our
our
our
vehicle
costs.
Everything
should
remain
about
the
same,
but
it
is
very
clear
that
if
we
do
not
make
changes
and
ridership
does
not
start
to
increase,
we
will
be
cutting
service.
We
will
be
going
into
our
budgets
and
that's
a
time
for
you
know
a
discussion
for
for
another
hearing.
A
Okay,
all
right!
Well!
Thank
you
very
much
at
this
time,
I'm
going
to
ask
for
since
she's
a
guest
as
a
part
of
this
presentation,
I'm
going
to
ask
for
chairwoman
of
the
Philadelphia
delegation.
Morgan
cephas
want
to
acknowledge
her
for
remarks
and
comments,
and
then
my
colleague
from
South
Philadelphia
councilman
mark
squill.
Thank
you
Mark
for
your
patience.
G
N
G
One
of
them
is
in
reference
to
a
2019,
Pew
charitable
trust
study
that
was
conducted
that
focused
on
the
habits
of
Philadelphia
commuters.
At
that
time,
I
know
2019
seems
light
years
away
and
our
our
world
is
completely
different.
We
are
literally
in
The
Jetsons.
We
were
not
there
in
2019,
but
according
to
that
study,
40
of
working
Philadelphia
were
reverse
commuting,
which
we
know
means
they
travel
to
the
suburbs
or
beyond
for
their
primary
job.
G
Has
there
been
a
recent
study,
as
it
relates
to
the
commuting
pattern
of
philadelphians
coming
and
going
to
the
surrounding
suburbs,
for
either
their
health
care
or
their
their
employment?
We
know.
Philadelphia
is
a
destination
city
for
a
lot
of
people
because
of
our
transportation
system
and
the
fact
that
you
can
get
from
Montgomery
County
down
to
Center
City
in
a
matter
of
20
minutes
on
a
good
day,
I
used
to
take
the
44
into
city
council
coming
from
West
Philadelphia
Owens,
City
Avenue,
so
I
want
to
get
a
sense.
K
G
K
Respond.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
That's
that's
an
excellent
question,
and
so
we
we
included
a
lot.
Obviously
we
have
a
lot
of
people
that
use
our
bus
system.
Two
reverse
commute
that
is
sort
of
our
mode
of
choice
for
folks
that
that
do
that
and
and
it's
something
that
we
we
have
spent
a
lot
of
time,
looking
at
what
we
have
been
doing
recently,
based
on
a
lot
of
the
feedback
that
we've
gotten
is,
we
have
been
looking
pretty
closely
at
some
of
that
origin
destination
data
to
identify.
K
You
know
those
types
of
specific
situations,
and
and
I
can
say
you
know
that
it's
already
begun
to
kind
of
it
impacts
some
of
the
initial
draft
recommendations
we
made.
So
it's
it's
definitely
a
big
part
of
our
system.
You
know
it
is
difficult
because
we
have
so
much
more
service
in
the
city
than
the
suburbs
that
we
really
do
not
want
to
take
hours
from
the
city
and
put
them
in
the
suburbs.
K
That's
not
a
that's,
not
an
equitable
approach
to
a
project
like
this,
but
it
is
something
that
we
are
very
mindful
of,
particularly
based
on
a
lot
of
the
public
feedback
that
we've
gotten
and
we
have
made.
You
know:
we've
been
using
sort
of
origin
destination
data
the
whole
time,
but
we
recently
acquired
that
our
origin
destination
data
and
we're
making
sure
to
update
our
analysis
based
on
what
we're
finding
there.
G
G
The
second
question
is:
can
you
describe
your
communication
with
the
large
systems
that
this
change
will
impact?
So
we
talked
about
the
school
district.
I
have
a
special
admit,
School
in
192nd
that
you
know
takes
students
all
the
way
from
up
Roosevelt,
Boulevard
traveling
to
West
Philadelphia,
and
you
know
when
I
was
younger
traveling
to
Central
and
there
it
would
take
literally
an
hour
I'm
catching
the
bus,
the
Broad
Street
Line,
and
then
the
Market
Frankford
L
as
well.
So
a
lot
of
our
students
are
commuting
that
way.
G
K
K
I
K
K
We
didn't
do
a
good
job
of
articulating
our
plans
for
school
service
and
I.
Think
our
the
response
that
we
got
from
parents
and
the
like
what's
was
a.
It-
was
a
reasonable
response
to
that
lack
of
detail
on
our
part.
So
what
we're?
What
we're
doing
now
is
we're
going.
You
know
we're
trying
to
make
contact.
K
Leslie
hinted
at
that
this
was
before,
but
we
are
going
to
make
it
very
clear
what
the
plans
are
for
school
service.
The
plan
all
along
was
to
make
sure
that
school
service
was
retained
in
all
of
its
forms,
whether
that
was
by
the
introduction
of
a
new
400
series,
route
or
or
another
another
means.
But
again
we
didn't.
We
didn't
articulate
that
very
well,
because
we
have
to
get.
We
were
trying
to
get
the
rest
of
the
expert
system
sort
of
established
first,
but
going
forward.
K
So
I
think
that
has
been
a
weakness
on
our
part
and
as
project
manager.
I'll
I
I
understand
that,
regarding
other
institutions
like
like
hospitals,
we
have
had
sort
of
a
series
of
you
know:
sort
of
conversations
or
one-off
meetings
with
a
number
of
hospitals
in
the
area.
We're
always
happy
to
talk
more
about
the
project.
K
We've
definitely
gotten
contacted
by
hospitals
that
want
some
clarification
or
or
any
more
information,
and
you
know
whenever
that
happens,
we
always
make
sure
to
schedule
more
meeting
with
them
so
that
we
can
be
more
explicit
in
in
how
the
new
network
could
impact
access
to
their
facility.
So
that
is
how
we
have
been
working
with
them
up
to
this
point.
K
G
Yeah
I
appreciate
that,
and
it
goes
back
to
some
of
the
remarks
I
made
in
my
opening
statements-
that
a
transit
system
has
a
direct
impact
on
your
quality
of
Education.
Your
access
to
education,
Access
to
Health,
Care
access
to
you
know
moving
out
of
poverty
because
of
how
it
connects
to
your
employment,
so
I
just
would
hope,
as
we
do.
The
second
iteration
just
to
your
point,
we're
a
little
bit
more
intentional
about
connecting
directly
with
those
networks,
so
they
are
included
in
the
conversation.
So
again.
Thank
you
so
much
thank.
R
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
Mr
chair
and
thank
you
all
for
the
great
questions
and
obviously
anytime
you
make
changes,
there's
always
concerns
and
challenges,
and
we
real
quick
I
want.
Maybe
at
the
question
when
we
start
talking
about
Center
City
and
the
congestion
and
I
know,
there's
been
some
talk
about
enforcement
and
how
we
would
do
that
because
of
obviously
less
congestion
made
people
be
able
to
move
Freer.
It
would
be
able
to
have
our
our
people
using
transportation
to
be
able
to
get
to
their
locations
and
destinations
a
lot
easier
are.
D
I
S
Hi
councilmember,
thank
you
for
the
question.
Yes,
we've
had
numerous
Partnerships
enforcement,
blitzes
Partnerships
with
PPA
to
try
to
increase
enforcement
of
some
of
the
illegal
activities
such
as
driving
or
parking
in
the
bus
lane
or
parking
in
a
bus
stop
which
really
prevents
you
know,
people
who
have
limited
mobility
in
a
wheelchair
from
accessing
the
bus.
So
there's
some
Ada
concerns
in
there
too,
not
just
service
reliability.
But
yes,
we
have
been
partnering.
S
We've
got
some
proposals
such
as
you
know,
copying
the
the
hourly
or
the
ace
programs
and
using
cameras,
camera
aided
enforcement,
where
a
camera
would
take
a
picture
and
then
a
parking
enforcement
office
or
could
write
the
ticket
just
so
we
have
some
more
consistent
and
efficient
enforcement.
So
those
are
all
ideas
on
the
table
and
we'd
like
to
keep
working
at
them
and,
finally,
we're
working
on
infrastructure
improvements
such
as
more
bus
lanes
or
you
know,
better
signals
to
make
the
bus
faster,
more
reliable.
T
D
It
is
an
answer
and
knowing
that
seps
is
still
considering
these
concerns,
especially
in
Center
City,
when
you
know
there's
no
way
to
get
around.
But
you
know
those
routes
are
very
important
to
people
who
don't
have
cars
and
especially
our
seniors
and
without
them
I
mean
it.
It
does
seem
great
that
you
want
to
streamline
things,
but
the
concerns
of
how
we
do
that
I
think
we
have
to
understand
when
you
do
make
those
changes.
D
You
know
we
need
to
understand
the
alternative
routes
and
how
that
works
and
the
timeline
on
that
and
I'm
not
sure
we
have
all
that
yet
so
I
and
I
appreciate
you
still
going
out
having
these
meetings
I
know,
a
lot
of
them
are
virtual,
but
you're
doing
some
in
person.
Now
that's
also
important
anytime.
You
make
a
change
like
this.
D
The
goal
is
to
keep
people
on
public
transportation,
remove
some
of
the
cars
from
the
on
the
roadways,
and
so
hopefully
we'll
get
there
understanding
that
ridership
is
down-
and
you
know
also
work
with
you
with
your
safety
and
quality
of
life
issues
on
on
the
system.
That
is
also
important
to
get
more
people
back
on
the
system
to
me,
the
more
people
to
ride
it,
the
safer
it's
going
to
be
so
it's
a
two-fold
process.
So
thank
you
for
doing
this
again.
I
Sure
vice
vice
Chairman's.
Well,
you
brought
up
a
good
point.
First
of
all,
yes
Wendy.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
keeping
all
that
Communications
open.
She
does
an
amazing
job
and
the
one
thing
we
mentioned
that
I
don't
know
if
I.
If
we've
said
it
already,
we
mentioned
that
this
comprehensive
look
at
our
bus
corridors
and
Roots
has
not
been
looked
at
in
decades.
It's
way
too
long,
but
the
plan
going
forward
and
that's
why
these
changes
seem
so
enormous
in
front
of
us.
I
We
have
never
gone
through
changes
like
this,
but
the
plan
is
and
what
other
cities
do
is
every
three
to
five
years.
You
tweak
your
bus
Network,
and
that
is
the
plan
going
forward.
So
if
we
decide
to
make
changes
in
this
Bus
Revolution
effort
and
then
in
three
to
five
years,
things
change
or
things
do
not
proceed
in
the
way
that
we
think
they
will.
Then
we
will
tweak
it
again.
It
will
be
smaller
changes.
I
It
will
still
be
comprehensive
changes,
but
that
is
what
Transit
networks,
bus
networks
should
be
doing
all
along.
It
just
hasn't
been
the
way
that
we've
been
able
to
do
things
here
at
SEPTA
until
now,
but
just
to
let
people
know
that
it
will.
It
will
feel
like
large
changes
ahead
of
us
right
now
and
then
we'll
have
opportunities
to
continue
to
the
discussion.
It's
not
like
the
decisions
that
get
made
in
this
effort
are
final
and
will
never
be
looked
at
again.
D
Thank
you
and
I
know.
This
is
a
challenge.
It's
a
challenge
for
us,
but,
and
you
know,
as
our
constituents
reach
out,
it's
really
important
for
us
to
get
them
answers
and
and
to
make
sure
that
we're
advocating
for
them
and
a
lot
of
these
challenges
are
maybe
sometimes
there
are
alternatives
that
we
don't
see,
and
so
we
need
to
understand
them,
maybe
a
little
better,
and
you
know
we'll
continue
to
Advocate
and
continue
to
have
these
conversations,
knowing
that
there
are
a
lot
of
concerns
from
the
residents.
K
Councilman,
thank
you
can
I
just
address
that
really
quickly.
This
is
something
that
we're
very
cognizant
of
regarding
how
we
are
portraying
the
materials
regarding
the
sort
of
presence
of
Alternatives.
So
as
we
update
the
draft,
we're
also
reviewing
all
of
our
materials
and
and
really
kind
of
putting
ourselves
in
the
ringer
to
make
them
as
as
clear
as
possible
and
making
sure
people
understand.
K
Okay,
this
route
that
you've
been
using
may
be
going
away,
but
there's
an
alternative
and
here's
the
alternative,
and
this
is
where
it
goes,
and
this
is
how
often
it
comes.
That's
that's
a
really
big
priority
for
us
to
make
sure
people
understand
that
we're
you
know.
Maybe
it's
not
what
they're
used
to
maybe
it's
in
a
different
location,
but
it's
it's
with
it's
approximate
to
where
they,
where
they're
boarding
the
bus
now
and
it's
coming
over.
D
I
I
would
say:
I
mean
that's
great
and
anytime
you're
taking
a
direct
route
somewhere
and
you
jump
on
and
jump
off
and
then
maybe
sometimes
you
have
to
make
a
transfer,
maybe
one
or
two
that
you
didn't
have
to
do
before
it.
It
just
causes
concern
right,
and
there
is
time
associated
with
that.
So
you
know
understanding.
There
will
be
additional
routes
that
you
could
take
to
get
to
the
same
place,
but
is
it
worth
it
for
them
to
do
that?
D
Or
do
they
take
an
Uber,
or
do
they
decide
to
do
a
different
route
which
we
don't
want
them
to,
because
we
want
them
to
take
public
transportation,
so
I
mean
that's
the
other
thing.
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
and
I
I
think
you
know
not
knowing
what
the
effects
are
until
obviously
they
go
into
place.
D
We
would
like
to
try
to
have
those
things
figured
out
ahead
of
time
so
that
we
don't
keep
tweaking
and
then
the
next
year
you
tweaking,
then
you
add
the
route
back
and
so
forth,
and
so
on
so
I
know
it's
a
challenge
and
I
could
tell
by
my
constituents
and
what
they're
saying
when
they
reach
out
a
lot
of
them
are
very,
very
upset
and
concerned.
So
we
just
want
to
make
sure
we
continue
this
line
of
communication.
So
thank
you.
It's.
I
Also
important
to
note
that
transfer
for
a
more
Equitable
access
to
our
system,
the
design
of
our
network
has
never
been
changed
to
take
advantage
of
that
free
transfer.
So
we
know
that
there
are
faster
routes
available
now
that
the
free
transfer
is
available,
but
we
have
never
looked
at
the
comprehensive
impact
of
that
on
the
system,
and
so
this
is
also
allowing
us
to
move
forward
in
a
more
Equitable
way
than
we
do
right
now.
So
so
that's
part
of
this
design
as
well.
E
Thank
you,
chairman
Johnson.
Thank
you
for
your
leadership
on
this.
It's
really
important
that
we
have
this
forum
Ms
Richards
I'd.
Also
thank
you
for
Testimony
I,
I'm,
greatly
concerned
about
to
set
the
best
Revolution
only
because
I
know
that
with
great
change
is
going
to
become
a
lot
of
our
neighbors
and
residents
in
Philadelphia
are
going
to
have
a
lot
of
questions
and
most
of
the
questions
are
going
to
come
towards
us
and
they're
going
to
make
demands
as
well.
E
So
for
me,
I
really
want
us
to
get
this
right
and
it's
essential
that,
like
I,
know
we're
talking
about
trial
and
error,
but
I
would
like
for
us
to
do
lesser
and
more,
let's
think
through
this
now
before
anything's
rolled
out.
So
one
of
my
first
questions
that
I
have
actually
three
questions
question
one
is:
what
is
the
justification
for
eliminating
26
routes?
E
The
second
question
is:
why
would
scepter
pick
up
writers
and
drop
them
off
at
a
subway
stop
or
split
routes,
both
of
which
would
require
transforming
transferring
to
a
different
vehicle
oftentimes
in
the
cold
in
the
night?
And
my
third
question
is:
have
you
ever?
Oh,
have
you
been
in
touch
with
our
commercial
quarter,
Executives
and
business
owners?
E
It's
really
important
that
there's
like
a
conversation
with
them
around
this
too,
because
they're
going
to
be
incredibly
impacted
by
this.
So
all
of
my
questions
are
are
are
geared
to
the
fact
that
folks,
in
our
district,
the
9th
district
and
even
those
Beyond
The,
Ninth
District
are
going
to
have
questions
about.
You
know
whether
or
not
city
council
did
enough
to
Advocate
to
make
sure
that
they
were
satisfied
with
the
service
happened
in
the
city.
So
that's
those
are
my
questions.
I
You
know
that's
the
same
for
all
the
different
routes,
but
it
is
low
ridership,
it
is
it's
not
being
used.
I
mean
people
do
show
us
by
using
our
system
what's
working
and
what's
not
working,
so
we
know
that
many
of
the
routes
are
not
working
because
nobody
is
using
them
at
certain
at
specific
times
of
the
day,
or
as
often
you
know
as
they
should
I'd
also
want
to.
I
Let
you
know
that
I
do
speak
to
the
commercial
corridors
on
a
variety
of
topics,
but
we
will
make
sure
that
we
speak
to
them
specifically
on
Bus
Revolution
and
make
sure
that
we
we
continue.
Those
conversations
and
one
example
I
want
to
give
you
I,
know
you're
a
new
member
and
welcome
by
the
way,
one
of
the
reasons
when
we
did
the
free
transfer,
because
I
think
this
really
shows
so,
for
instance,
those
who
are
riding
are
bus,
23.
from
nice
town
and
they
were
coming
into
Center
City.
I
I
K
K
I
think
the
first
is
that
there
is
quite
a
bit
of
sort
of
root,
duplication
and
our
system
routes
are
running
alongside
each
other.
You
know
maybe
they're
a
block
apart,
maybe
they're
on
top
of
each
other.
So
that's
one
reason.
So
in
some
situations
we
were
combining
groups
to
create.
You
know
one
stronger
route
that
has
higher
levels
of
frequency.
That
type
of
thing
widership
was
often
a
reason
for
getting
for
taking
the
route
off.
K
But
we,
you
know
we
tried
what
we
try
to
maintain
service
along
the
those
streets
are
at
least
proximate
to
those
folks
and
just
to
highlight
what
was
discussed
earlier.
99
of
the
people
that
currently
are
within
a
quarter
mile
of
Transit
are
still
within
a
quarter
mile
and
then
97
or
within
an
eighth
of
a
mile
still
so
we're
still
providing
access
to
the
system
just
potentially
in
a
different
way
than
people
are
accustomed
to.
Just.
U
K
So
we
we
run
a
pretty
heavy
transfer
system
already
about
40
of
all
users
of
all
bus
customers
transfer
in
the
course
of
the
trip
and
the
majority
of
those
transfers
are
to
the
Broad
Street
or
to
the
Market
Franklin
Line,
which
is
in
a
sense
how
some
of
the
system
is
set
up
set
up
to
work
like
we
have
a
lot
of
Crosstown
routes
that
are
connecting
to
the
Broad
Street
Line.
Those
ones
don't
come
into
Center
City.
K
If
people
want
to
come
into
Center
City,
they
can
transfer
to
the
Broad
Street
Line
or
a
bus.
We
understand
that
people
who
are
not
used
to
taking
the
Broad
Street
Line
or
the
market
Frankfurt
line
are
not
necessarily
possible
doing
so,
but
we
still
also
have
a
number
of
people
that
already
are
transferring
from
bus
to
bus
switching
vehicles
by
by
building
a
by
building
sort
of
that
that
connectivity
into
the
system
by
transferring
it
allows
us
to
provide
much
higher
levels
of
frequent
service
throughout
the
entire
system.
K
And
that's
that's
really
the
trade-off
is
you
have?
Maybe
you
have
a
direct
ride
now,
but
it
could
be
slow,
it
could
be
circuitous
if
we
can
switch
you
to
something
else.
You
know
whether
it's
a
bus
or
whether
it's
the
high
speed.
We
can
save
you
time,
but
not
everyone
is
so
concerned
with
time,
but
we
can
provide
much
more
frequent
service
overall
on
the
ground
so
that
that
was
really
the
goal
of
what.
I
K
K
So,
right
now,
when
someone
expresses
skepticism
about
well
that
transfers,
you
know,
why
would
I
do
that
it's
going
to
cost
time
they.
It
may
very
well
be
right,
but
if
we're
providing
much
higher
levels
of
frequency
throughout
and
then
continuing
to
work
with
our
partners
of
the
city
on
priority
and
reliability
measures,
it
does
give
us
the
opportunity
to
provide
a
better
service
using
this,
a
more
interconnected
system.
A
V
V
I
think
we're
are
we
still
in
the
morning
good
morning,
yeah
anyway,
all
right?
Thank
you
very
much.
So
I'll
I'll
throw
out
just
the
kind
of
my
perspectives
on
this
and
some
questions
and
some
of
it
you
may
not
be
able
to
answer.
I
understand
it,
but
if
you
take
it
into
a
thought
process-
and
let
me
know
so
so-
I
am
I
am
concerned.
It's
good
news
that
you're
looking
at
the
routes
and
trying
to
improve
the
system
and
I'm
all
for
that.
V
V
There
is
a
news
about
spending
money
outside
of
Philadelphia
and
a
lot
of
money
to
get
from
Philadelphia
to
King
of
Prussia
and
places
like
that.
But
in
Philadelphia
we
don't
see
money
spent
to
improve
the
system
and
I
believe
70
percent
of
the
Riders
are
here
in
Philadelphia.
You
could
correct
me
if
that's
wrong,
that
that
actually
might
be
old
numbers,
as
you
said,
because
of
the
pandemic,
but
I
think
because
of
crime.
V
V
V
The
only
thing
they
could
do
was
call
the
police
and
there
weren't
police
with
that
policy,
and
the
policy
of
that
SEPTA
should
be
used
for
housing,
drug
addicted
people
and
homeless
people,
and
all
that
that
we
could
say
is
a
policy
question.
We
could
have
whether
the
the
subway
system
is
the
place
to
House
people
or
not.
V
There
are
15
members
of
SEPTA
bored
as
far
as
I
know,
and
four
from
Philadelphia,
so
11
from
the
surrounding
areas.
You're
saying
that
that
the
change
is
budget
neutral.
It's
definitely
not
a
a
increased
budget
for
Philadelphia
to
improve
the
the
the
systems
to
improve
the
facilities
to
improve
anything.
V
The
ridership
in
our
city
consists
of
a
lot
of
people
who
are
poor
and
they
need
the
public
transportation
system,
but
the
entire
region
depends
on
Philadelphia.
If
Philadelphia
does
not
come
back
out
of
this
predicament,
no
matter
how
much
money
people
put
into
the
surrounding
areas,
it
will
overall
be
a
failure.
V
So
my
concern
is
that
in
the
past,
when
there
was
time
and
money
to
improve
Philadelphia,
that
was
not
done.
I
give
an
example.
Years
ago,
I
brought
a
company
two
SEPTA.
That
company
had
installed
sliding
screen
doors
in
Tokyo,
subway
and
Seoul
subway,
and
they
would
do
it
in
Philadelphia.
For
free,
they
made
their
money
on
an
Esco
which
is
the
cost
savings,
energy
cost
savings
and
on
digital
advertising.
V
So
what
they
would
do
in
every
platform
in
the
market
Frankfurt
line,
they
would
put
a
barrier,
so
people
would
not
fall
off
the
subway
platform.
There
would
be
Wi-Fi
there.
You
could
watch
the
trains
coming.
You
could
watch
advertising.
You
could
use
a
smartphone
to
buy
your
ticket
to
the
movie
that
you're
watching
the
trailer
on
they
have
a
requirement
for
how
much
open
space
is
there.
But
the
digital
advertising
is
is
much
more
lucrative.
The
cameras
for
security,
it's
cleaner,
better
air
quality,
everything
and
SEPTA
said
no.
V
You
weren't
there
at
the
time
I'm
just
giving
you
some
history,
so
in
light
of
the
fact
that
when
we
can
improve
SEPTA
in
the
city,
we
don't
and
now
during
the
fact
that
people
are
not
riding
the
subway
primarily
or
SEPTA,
or
the
bus,
because
they're
reading
about
people
getting
shot
waiting
for
the
bus
people
getting
shot
and
stabbed
on
the
on
the
train
on
the
bus
waiting.
You
know
just
horrendous
news
about
SEPTA.
V
It
certainly
suspect
that
Cuts
in
service
are
coming.
However,
however,
it's
being
relayed
to
us,
spending
increases
for
better
service
would
certainly
you
know,
kind
of
alleviate
that
suspicion
and
if
you
can,
you
know
answer
that.
Maybe
it's
too
much
to
answer
right
now,
but
I'm,
just
letting
you
know
what
I
hear
from
my
constituents
and
what
I
think
myself.
Given
the
circumstances.
Thank
you.
I
Yeah
I'd
like
to
make
a
few
comments.
First
of
all,
I
just
have
to
say
a
lot
of
the
facts
you
just
presented.
I
would
like
the
opportunity
to
correct
for
accuracy.
First
of
all,
SEPTA
is
not
decreasing
our
law
enforcement
in
any
way
shape
or
form.
In
fact,
we
have
increased
by
a
cost
of
53
million
dollars
for
Safety
and
Security.
We
just
welcomed
a
one
of
our
largest
classes
of
new
police
recruits.
I
V
I'm
going
to
let
you
know,
since
you
brought
it
up,
I
actually
did
a
a
a
resolution
and
I
introduced
a
to
introduce
an
amendment
to
withhold
10
million
dollars
from
SEPTA
from
the
money
we
give
SEPTA.
That
is
then
leveraged
to
get
the
other
money
because
of
complaints
from
the
Transit
Union
about
the
fact
that
the
pay
was
the
lowest
in
the
region.
The
fact
that
Transit
Police
were
so
few
in
number
that
50
for
50
spots
were
not
filled
that
people
were
leaving.
V
They
could
not
recruit
with
the
the
low
salaries
and
because
SEPTA
had
hired
at
the
expense
of
you
know.
The
number
I
got
with
8
million
for
Public
Safety
officers
with
no
ability
to
arrest
or
stop
violence.
They
would
call
the
scepter
officer
that
was
stationary,
not
even
patrolling
and
so
yeah
I
do
work
with
the
Transit
Union
that
had
these
complaints
and
fortunately,
and
thankfully,
and
I.
V
I
We're
very
happy
to
be
able
to
do
that
and
look.
We
are
very
concerned
we're
concerned
about
what's
happening
in
our
neighborhoods
and
we
appreciate
working
with
Council
on
that.
Let
us
comment
on
two
quick
things.
I
know:
there's
a
lot
of
questions
here:
happy
to
follow
up
the
sliding
door
example
that
you
gave
I
was
not
here.
You
meant,
you
did
mention
that
you.
I
I
You
know
comments
that
that
don't
get
us
to
a
better
solution,
and
the
last
thing
I
just
want
to
comment
on
his
when
you
say
why,
this
time
frankly,
I
wish
we
had
done
this
decades
ago
right,
you
know-
and
you
know,
there's
always
that
saying
when's
the
best
time
to
plant
a
tree
it's
20
years
ago,
I
wish
we
had
done
this
20
years
ago.
The
second
best
time
is
now
and
we
cannot
waste
any
time.
The
covet
relief,
the
federal
relief
is
running
out
every
day.
I
F
F
I
wanted
to
really
talk
about
and
Leslie
Richards.
Thank
you
to
SEPTA
and
to
your
team.
I
also
want
to
thank
Wendy,
because
she
has
just
been
phenomenal
when
I
first
started
to
hear
about
this
process
from
our
neighbors
in
Winfield
and
in
Overbrook
in
councilmember
Jones's
District,
where
I
reside,
it
was
windy
who
I
first
reached
out
to
who
was
able
to
get
me
in
contact
with
all
of
you
at
SEPTA.
F
So
thank
you
very,
very
much
Wendy
for
all
of
your
hard
work,
so
I
wanted
to
focus
on
the
process
for
my
questions
for
this
hearing
today
and
I've
been
listening
to
all
of
the
questions
that
have
been
posed
and
I
want
to
thank
my
colleagues
for
them.
But
I
want
to
go
back
to
the
question
that
chairman
Johnson
asked
regarding
providing
a
list
of
all
of
the
hearings
and
meetings
that
have
taken
place.
I
would
like
to
add
an
addendum
to
that
question.
F
F
I
really
understand
that
when
you
talk
about
cultural
competency
and
having
institutional
knowledge
regarding
not
only
SEPTA
but
of
this
city,
I
was
very
disheartened
to
find
not
a
lot
of
diversity
in
the
Consultants
that
are
representing
SEPTA
that
were
in
attendance
at
that
meeting
and
all
of
the
staffers
that
were
there
from
SEPTA.
At
that
meeting.
F
Yet
we
had
a
ton
of
elderly
residents
who
were
there
with
nowhere
to
sit,
and
so
I
did
ask
where
the
chairs
be
put
out
and
we
helped
put
the
chairs
out
so
that
our
residents
could
have
somewhere
to
sit.
So
when
we
talk
about
process
and
being
culturally
competent
and
aware
of
the
needs
of
communities
so
that
they
can
give
appropriate
feedback.
Let's
start
there.
F
This
is
how
the
SEPTA
officials
and
the
Consultants
who
are
working
with
you
all
told
them
to
set
up
the
room
so
because
they
had
the
the
materials
they
had,
the
tables
they
had
the
chairs
and
we
did
put
them
out
and
we
did
wind
up
having
a
robust
conversation.
But
that
was,
after
the
consternation
that
I
thought
in
councilman,
Jones
and
representative
Ronnie
green.
Who
was
there
that
was
after
we
all
sort
of
spoke
out
with
the
neighbors
of
the
community.
To
say.
Please
put
the
chairs
out.
F
F
And
thirdly,
I
wanted
to
mention
one
group
that
I
didn't
hear
much
about
I
think
it
is
important
for
us
to
bring
them
in
because
they
will
be
operating
the
routes
on
the
buses
just
to
ensure
that
you
all
are
interfacing
with
the
members
of
TWU
I'm,
getting
feedback
from
the
bus
operators
as
well.
The
folks
who
are
operating
these
systems
day
in
and
day
out
and
have
a
more
intimate
touch
Point
with
the
constituents
and
and
all
those
who
are
riding
the
bus,
including
me,
including
my
children.
F
F
As
someone
who
is
Court
accepted
to
and
from
all
my
life,
the
52
bus
looped
right
outside
my
house
off
of
City
Avenue,
that's
where
they
turned
around
was
right
outside
our
door,
the
44
that
takes
us
down
the
city
hall
from
right
outside
my
door.
So
we
really
need
to
get
feedback
on
those
three
specific
issues.
Thank
you.
Mr,
chair.
A
I
I
So
we
will
continue
to
to
work
on
all
of
those
issues
I'm
going
to
let
Dan
go
over
just
very
quickly,
but
we
will
work
with
you
so
that
we
don't
want
anyone
feeling,
like
you
did
in
those
meetings,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
all
of
those
perspectives
are
are
part
of
our
process,
and
please
understand
we
all
we.
We
want
to
serve
as
many
people
as
possible.
I
K
Yeah,
thank
you.
Council.
You
and
I
spoke
a
little
bit
about
it
at
the
event
itself
and
I
really
appreciated
your
feedback,
then,
as
I
do
now,
and
we
did
adopt
sort
of
a
for
lack
of
a
better
term,
a
one-size-fits-all
approach
to
the
meetings.
The
meeting
in
over
Brook
Winfield
took
on
a
different
flavor,
but
it
was
a
good
meeting.
K
K
Regarding
your
request
that
we
provide
map
information
about
Islands
or
gaps.
That's
easy,
we're
happy
to
do
that,
we'll
make
sure
that
those
are
provided
when
we
start
talking
to
you
all
again
in
advance
of
the
next
round
of
Engagement.
We'll
have
that
information
for
you
and
then,
regarding
the
involvement
of
our
operators.
K
We
have
had
I
would
say:
we've
had
three
rounds
of
operator
engagement
that
are
that
go
in
tandem
with
the
public
Outreach,
again,
not
to
say
we
we
talked
to
all
of
our
operators,
but
but
it's
a
priority
for
us.
You
know
for,
for
you
know,
like
you
know,
like
they
say
the
introduction
I've
been
accepted
for
10
years.
K
We
always
try
to
communicate
changes
with
our
districts
before
they
they
go
out
publicly,
but
that
that's
something
that
we're
always
going
to
be
doing
and
making
sure
that
there's
a
give
and
take
with
our
with
our
both
with
our
TWU
un
smart
unions
and
that
we
keep
them
involved
in
the
process.
Okay,.
F
F
Lastly,
I
just
wanted
to
put
this
on
the
record,
because
I
was
thinking
about
this
relative
to
you
all
having
a
consultant
team,
if
you
could
provide
us
with
a
list
of
all
of
the
outside
vendors
that
stuff
that
has
contracted
with
to
work
on
this
process
and
if
you
could
give
us
a
breakdown
of
MW
dbe
participation
as
a
part
of
that
process,
that'll
be
helpful
as
well.
Thank
you
very
much
and
thank
you.
Mr
chair.
B
X
Thank
you
Mr
chairman,
and
thanks
for
getting
us
all
together.
This
is
quite
helpful.
Thank
you,
madam
not
Madam,
Secretary
Madam
chairwoman
for
coming
the
we
worked
a
lot
in
Harrisburg
when
you
were
the
Secretary
of
Transportation,
so
I
look
forward
to
this.
This
is
a
great
conversation.
I
want
to
bounce
it
back
a
little
bit
to
the
26
routes
that
are
being
eliminated.
X
X
I
was
wondering
if
you
are
meeting
with
these
people,
rather
than
them
being
surprised
and
one
day
accept
the
bus
come
down.
They
don't
use
SEPTA,
but
next
thing
you
know
they
have
buses
coming
up
and
down
their
street
and
I
would
ask
what
kind
of
Engagement
you
have
with
those
new
routes,
new
buses
that
are
going
down
new
streets,
because
I
I
would
almost
think
they
would
need
an
individual
meeting.
X
So
they
can
engage
so
they
can
have
a
little
heads
up
hey.
This
is
coming
and
I
don't
want
to
speak.
You
know
for
any
of
the
district
council
people
but
I
know
that's
going
to
be
on
a
hit
list
because
having
sat
and
Council
before
it's
concerning,
even
if
it's
just
that
one
street
or
or
a
couple
blocks
of
changing
that
route,
those
homeowners
need
to
be
notified
and
I'm
wondering
what
kind
of
Engagement
of
those
homeowners
directly
not
indirectly
having
Community
meetings,
because
that
that
to
me
that's
a
little
off.
X
We
need
to
communicate
this
stuff
directly
with
them.
So
they
actually
know
ahead
of
time,
because
that,
first
day
that
bus
is
going
to
run
it's
going
to
trigger
thousands
and
thousands
of
calls
that
every
District
councilman
every
State
Rep
every
state
senator
all
across
the
board.
So
I
would
ask
that
you
tell
let
us
know,
then
how
how
that
engagement's
going
and
what
process
you
have
in
place
to
take
care
of
them
and
I.
Thank
you
for
the
time
councilman
and
I'll
take
it
offline
appearances.
I
Yeah
now
we
want
to
reach
out
to
as
many
people
as
possible,
we'll
be
looking
for
council
members
and
state
reps
to
help
us
with
this.
How
you
communicate
with
your
own
constituents
will
be
really
helpful
for
us
just
today.
Just
to
give
everybody
a
feel,
we
have
1200
SEPTA
buses
out
they're,
making
13
000
trips
more
than
300
000.
Passengers
are
using
our
system
safely
today
to
get
to
where
they
need
to
be.
I
So
these
are
very
large
volumes
of
people
to
reach
out
to,
and
we
could
use
everyone's
help
in
making
sure
that
we
can
have
these
conversations.
We
agree.
I
have
heard
people
discuss
what
it's
like
to
have
SEPTA
buses.
You
know
in
front
of
their
house
some
love,
it
some
hate
it,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
is
aware
again.
People
will
be
seeing
these
changes
in
Fall
of
2024.
That
gives
us
time
to
reach
out
to
as
many
people
as
possible.
I
We
want
to
do
it
in
venues
that
are
already
happening.
You
know
piggybacking
on
community
meetings
that
are
already
occurring,
but
also
looking
for
new
ways,
so
we
will
be
looking
to
work
with
your
district
offices.
We
will
be
looking
to
work
with
your
government
relations
staff
to
figure
out
the
best
ways
to
do
that.
So.
X
Then,
maybe
maybe
Madam
chair,
if
I
can
Dan
before
we
get
in,
there
is
maybe
with
that
list
of
bus
routes
changing.
Maybe
you
can
give
us
a
list
down
with
all
your
demographics
and
everything
you
already
have
at
your
fingertips.
Some
of
these
new
streets
with
100
blocks
that
these
buses
may
be
running
down
that
aren't
there.
X
I
We
will
and
it's
helpful
and
what
you've
mentioned
and
others
have
as
well.
Let
us
know
what
information
is
most
useful
to
you.
We
have
a
lot
of
information
and
we
want
to
give
it
to
you
in
ways
that
is
helpful
to
explain
to
our
cons
to
your
constituents
to
our
Riders
to
our
community
members,
and
so
thank
you
for
that.
Y
Good
morning
I'm
trying
not
to
scare
you
it's
a
crazy
rainy
day,
thank
you
to
chairwoman,
cephas
and
chairman
Johnson
for
convenientness,
along
with
hey
Leslie
and
your
Stan.
Thank
you,
everybody
for
being
here,
one
of
the
things
that's
always
near
and
dear
to
me
that
keeps
myself
and
all
of
our
colleagues
on
here.
As
our
older
and
aging
adults,
we
have
received
various
emails.
Various
phone
calls
and
I
just
need
to
make
sure
in
this
conversation
and
I
don't
want
to
be
redundant.
It
has
been
talked
about.
Y
What
are
we
really?
What
is
the
real
partnership
to
make
sure
that
they're
included
in
this
one
of
the
hesitations
that
this
the
older
adults
have
been
expressing
is
the
fact
they're
not
included
in
these
conversations
and
change
may
help
and
change
may
be
okay
for
individuals
who
are
under
55,
but
when
you're
over
55
A
change
is
very
drastic
to
them
and
in
certain
situations
that
maybe
before,
as
and
as
you
talk
to
council
member
Gilmore
Richardson
sits
in
front
of
her
house
for
some
of
these
situation.
Y
It's
going
to
be
not
just
one
block.
It's
completely
three
to
four
blocks
away.
So
has
there
been
an
extended
partnership
between
the
Philadelphia
Corporation
and
the
Aging,
the
Department
of
Aging
AARP
for
those
type
of
individuals?
Who
are
you
who
had
the
skill
set
on
Happy
Outreach
to
connect
with
individuals
from
that
Community
to
make
sure
that
they're
a
part
of
these
conversations?
Because,
as
the
more
and
more
we're
talking
about
it
and
I've
shared
it
from
when
we
talked
about
today,
they
said
they
were
never
notified
and
that
they
were
they're.
K
K
That
being
said,
I
mean
I
I,
don't
think
it's
on
them
to
try
to
reach
out
to
all
of
these
different
groups
that
that
we
we
need
to
do
more
of
that,
but
we
are
happy
to
kind
of
set
up.
You
know
in-person
meetings
at
you
know
senior
centers
or
wherever
we
need
to
go
to
kind
of
talk
about
the
project
forward,
but
we
have
had
several
focus
groups
with
AARP,
animal
or
adults
and
we'll
continue
those
conversations
going
throughout
the
process.
Y
Thank
you
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure,
as
you
stated
that
the
elected
official
stakeholder
that's
on
here,
I
did
see
my
counterpart
council
member
Phillips,
who
we
do.
He
represents
parts
of
the
older
adults
that
are
in
my
district
and
I
know.
I
could
partner
with
him
along
with
council
member
bass.
So
you
have,
you
will
have
relationship
between
your
city
and
your
state
stakeholders
and
where
we
can
have
these
meetings
in
various
locations.
Y
Some
of
them
are
senior
homes
so
that
you
can
hear
straight
from
them
for
their
concerns
and
their
aims.
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
hearing
about
what
actually
we're
going
to
do
and
I'm
gonna
put
another
plug.
Councilman
Johnson
I'll
be
quiet.
If
there's
any
information
that
is
going
to
be
circulated,
that
is
written.
The
point
that
is
10
point
is
too
small
for
our
seniors.
So
if
you're
circulating
information
that
you
want
them
to
post
I.E
on
their
refrigerator
I.E
beside
their
pill
box,
it
needs
the
font
needs
to
be
bigger.
Y
I
I,
we
are
well
aware
how
seniors
rely
on
us
right.
Mobility
is
very
important,
especially
as
people
age,
and
we
know
that
we,
you
know,
provide
a
very
vital
service
to
our
seniors
in
this
region.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
reach
out
to
them
and
hear
from
them.
So
we
will
continue
to
do
that
and
we
appreciate
your
help
in
in
letting
us
do
that.
I
would
also
just
say.
I
We
also
know
how
vital
we
are
to
those
with
Mobility
challenges
who
are
unable
to
drive,
because
they
physically
may
not
be
able
to
drive
or
have
other
Vision,
visual
or
hearing
challenges,
and
so
we
are
we're
very
cognizant
of
that
and
any
any
recommendations
on
how
we
can
reach
out
to
more
members
of
our
senior
and
disability
Community.
We
are
open
to
it.
A
If
you
have
a
questions
or
comments
from
members
of
the
council
committee,
as
well
as
the
Philadelphia
delegation
before
I,
bring
up
the
next
panel,
I
have
one
question
you
mentioned
earlier
that
you
said
the
new
plan
will
provide
services
to
communities
that
don't
have
it
so
I
want
to
get
an
idea.
What
communities
are
they
and
as
well
as
what
assessment
was
done
to
determine
that
there
was
a
need
that
was
part
of
your
presentation
earlier
when
we
first
got
started.
K
Yeah
I
think
it's
really
about
creating
new
connections.
Councilman
it's
about
the
city
of
Philadelphia
currently
is,
is
extremely
well
served
by
transit.
It
would
be
really
hard
to
put
to
start
a
new
part
of
the
city
because
it's
well
served
and
you
know
obviously
it's
an
older
city,
but
it's
really
about
creating
new
connections
for
people.
K
It's
about
people
being
able
to
get
further
faster,
using
the
system
and
frequency,
and
it's
that's
really
what
we're
going
for
in
terms
of
establishing
like
a
specific
need
or
or
sort
of
you
know,
sort
of
where
that
range
of
Mobility
is
accessed
like
we're
working
on
a
lot
of
that
stuff.
Now,
but
really,
you
know
we're
looking
more
at
sort
of
how
far
people
can
get
using
the
transit
system,
using
that
you
know
frequency
and
and
better
connectivity.
A
AA
AB
AB
A
significant
number
of
residents,
for
example,
have
been
concerned
with
the
proposed
changes
that
would
have
been
catastrophic
to
our
community.
This
plant
plan
previously
included
eliminating
the
27
bus
route
entirely,
which
served
areas
including
the
major
arterial
Henry
Avenue,
that
included
Seoul
High
School.
A
meeting
of
our
community
about
the
changes
was
capped
at
100
and
it
took
lobbying
from
our
Democratic
War
leader,
Louisa
and
other
stakeholders
such
as
council
member
Jones,
to
get
a
town
hall
to
discuss
these
changes
at
that
meeting.
AB
How
much
longer
commutes
would
take
for
residents
by
rerouting
commutes
that
were
previously
expressed
to
local
traffic
and
also
the
need
to
clearly
communicate
what
the
plan
was
at
that
meeting
for
residents
to
clearly
understand
what
the
latest
proposal
was
for
them
to
give
impact
on,
and
also
not
having
time
to
see
the
information
beforehand.
So
they
could
digest
it
and
then
give
comments.
AB
AB
As
a
newly
elected
State
Rep,
my
Democratic
house,
colleagues
will
fight
for
increased
funding
and
Investments
for
public
transit
across
the
state
and
I
think
that
is
what's
critical
and
needed
in
this
plan.
I'm
proud
to
represent
many
of
the
dedicated
members
of
the
transit
Workers
Union
in
our
community
and
several
of
them
are
my
patients.
I
reiterate
my
call
for
increased
Community
engagement
and
in
this
process.
Indeed,
studies
show
that
increased
public
participation
can
improve
equity
in
bus,
Network
redesigns
as
one
venue.
AB
To
that
end,
we
are
so
looking
forward
to
having
our
next
forum
with
SEPTA
with
the
community
and
we're
still
waiting
to
hear
back.
So
please
let
us
know
when
you're
ready
to
set
a
date,
so
now
I'm
honored
to
have
members
of
our
community
here
and
would
like
to
turn
the
floor
over
to
this
team
Sam
Howell,
who
is
the
principal
of
Saul
high
school?
Thank
you.
W
W
Just
about
every
one
of
our
student
relies
on
public
transportation
to
get
to
and
from
school,
but
neither
Miramar
or
either
I
or
the
community
have
been
approached
bicepa
for
input
on
the
project.
I
asked
that
moving
forward
that
Saul
and
other
schools
have
a
seat
at
the
table
for
any
changes
to
transportation
services
that
will
directly
affect
our
students.
Thank
you.
B
AC
Yes,
my
name
is
Rebecca
puiro
I
live
in
Roxborough
and
I
am
a
bus,
trolley
and
Subway
commuter
and
I'm
here
to
talk
about
the
nine
and
the
27.,
the
two
main
bus
routes
serving
our
neighborhood.
My
first
point,
which
I
have
written
about
and
talked
about
and
created
a
petition
for
the
neighborhood
about
is
that
SEPTA's
bus
Network
serves
not
only
adult
commuters,
but
students
as
well
and
in
our
neighborhood.
AC
Several
hundred
kids,
including
mine,
rely
daily
on
the
27
to
get
from
Roxboro
to
vine
and
Broad,
which
is
the
first
stop
off
of
676
for
high
school.
That
includes
Roman,
but
also
Mastermind,
SLA,
String,
Theory
friend,
select
Franklin,
Learning,
Center
and
more.
There
are
a
lot
of
schools
right
at
that
node.
AC
Both
the
proposed
new
routes
would
add.
20
to
30
minutes
to
student
commute
times
worsening.
Service
for
students
is
an
issue
of
educational
access
and
it
risks
increasing
student
lateness.
This
is
a
critical
issue
and,
however,
I
am
glad
that
SEPTA
has
heard
our
concerns
and
my
understanding
is.
They
are
now
in
conversation
with
the
district.
That's
what
I'm
hearing
in
this
discussion
that
they
are
getting
in
dialogue
with
the
district?
So
what
can
council
do?
AC
I'd
like
to
emphasize
to
council
members
that
advocating
for
keeping
the
bus
Network,
as
is
with
no
change,
is
not
a
solution
for
our
City's
Transit
needs.
For
example,
I
take
the
nine
to
work
daily,
a
bus
that
has
the
worst
on-time
service
record
in
the
system,
which
should
be
a
25-minute
morning
commute
from
Central
Roxboro
to
30th.
Street
Station
turns
into
a
45-minute
commute
frequently
when
the
bus
gets
stuck
in
traffic
on
76,
which
it
often
does
on
my
return
evening.
AC
Trip
I,
often
wait
45
minutes
or
more
for
a
late
bus
to
appear
at
30th,
Street
Station.
This
poor
on
Time
Performance
is
due
to
two
factors:
one
the
nine
gets
delayed
by
Highway
car
traffic
and
two.
The
current
nine
road
is
extremely
long,
extending
all
the
way
across
Center
City.
The
bus
revolution's
proposed
shorter
route
for
the
nine.
Actually,
it
will
definitely
improve
my
commute.
AC
The
Bus
Revolution
redesign
project
is
trying
to
address
the
needs
of
bus
commuters
and
there
are
productive
ways
that
City
Health
Council
can
help
if
Council
truly
wants
to
prioritize
public
transit.
You
should
one
strongly
support
dedicated
bus
lanes
throughout
the
city.
Two
enforce
existing
laws
around
illegal
parking
in
bus
lanes
and
three
find
more
Avenues
of
funding
through
which
the
city
can
contribute
to
public
transit
and
for
advocate
for
state
and
federal
funding
as
well.
AC
B
AD
Okay,
do
you
hear
me?
Okay,
well,
I
agree
with
what
Rebecca
has
just
said,
so
some
of
what
she
said
is
what
I
was
going
to
say,
especially
around
the
bike
and
the
bus
lanes,
particularly
on
the
nine
I've
been
on
the
bus
and
the
bus
drivers
have
to
keep
going
around
Vehicles
delivery
trucks
Ubers,
and
they
just
laughed
that
it's
a
bus
lane.
So
we
definitely
need
to
do
something
about
that
and
also
to
have
enforcement.
AD
AD
I
would
also
ask
that
Council
support
SEPTA
in
moving
the
Wissahickon
Transit
Center
forward
for
years.
I
have
watched,
Transit
users
and
myself
included
I'm
a
Transit
user
stand
with
no
shelter
surrounded
by
puddles,
getting
splashed
by
cars
driving
by
and
it
just
it's
been
a
stalemate
and
there's
just
been
so
many
groups
involved
in
it.
It
doesn't
need
to
be
that
way
and
I
just
would
hope
that
we
would
treat
Transit
users
so
much
better
by
getting
that
project
moving.
AD
B
T
A
AE
Thank
you.
Oh
thanks.
Thank
you
for
inviting
me
today
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
Tariq
change
can
be
good.
God
knows
such
as
needed
in
the
city.
The
question
is
how
it
is
presented
when
you
say
Revolution
to
a
senior
and
I'm
80
that
can
be
a
flag
Raiser
at
the
meeting
at
the
hospital.
I
think
that
was
that
was
evident.
It
was
a
very
poor
presentation,
I'm,
so
glad
that
you
accept
I
decided
to
revamp
their
process.
That
is
really
encouraging
to
include
more
folks
on
a
lower
temperature.
AE
I
appreciate
that
when
you
do
your
survey
set
to
wherever
you
are
I
hope
that
you
will
include
the
new
development
in
rossborough,
maybe
too
much
but
they're
here
these
people
can
use
the
bus.
Hopefully
they
will.
So
when
you
do
your
counts.
Hopefully,
you'll
include
that
in
your
survey
somebody
mentioned
reverse
commute
at
my
station
with
the
hicken.
If
Wendy's
still
is
still
here,
she
knows
where
that
is
before
the
virus.
AE
Now
there
was
a
ton
of
people
doing
reverse
commutes
to
Conshohocken
wherever
else
up
the
road
they
had
to
walk
up
that
hill
from
the
Transportation
Center
cold
rainy
snowy
days,
maybe
older
folks.
It
was
a
struggle
because
some
of
those
folks
really
was
may
I
suggest
we
look
at
what
we
look
at
incorporating
the
Norristown
Regional
Rail
Line
in
this
watch.
Revolution.
AE
AE
I
suggest
we
somehow
cooperate
or
think
about
incorporating
that
Regional
Rail
line,
which
goes
through
Conshohocken
mattyunk
boys
and
Allegheny,
and
North
Broad
Street
Incorporated,
that
into
this
Bus
Revolution.
Somehow,
because
it
parallels
those
lines,
people
can
go
right
down
to
the
Jefferson
Hospital
across
talents
to
chop
whatever
else
downtown
shock
it
to
Macy's
whatever.
AE
AB
AF
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
state
representative
Khan,
and
thank
you
for
inviting
me.
My
name
is
Charles
girgitz
I'm,
the
executive
director
at
Cathedral
Village,
and
this
is
Kathleen
mcgrand
she's,
one
of
our
residents
here
at
Cathedral,
Village
Cathedral
Village
is
a
senior
retirement
community.
We
have
a
little
bit
over
300
residents
that
we
serve
here
and
we
have
over
200
staff
members,
many
of
whom
use
the
the
nine
and
the
27
commuting
to
work
and
and
getting
around
many
of
our
population
really
depend
on
sep.
AF
AG
AG
So
our
residents,
many
folks
come
here
because
of
the
propinquity
of
the
bus
stops
for
both
the
nine
and
the
27..
Some
folks
have
come
to
Cathedral
Village,
giving
up
their
cars,
knowing
that
the
transportation
was
close
and
that
they
could
easily
get
into
the
city
for
medical
appointments
down
at
Jefferson,
Wills,
Eye,
Penn
Medicine
at
4th
and
Walnut
and,
conversely,
going
out
towards
West
Philadelphia
to
HUB
and
Penn
Presbyterian.
AG
AG
The
the
nine
and
the
27
provide
increased
travel
options
on
the
East-West
axis,
as
well
as
the
north-south
into
Center,
City
River
to
River
and
out
to
West
Philadelphia.
Currently,
we
don't
have
access
to
Center
City
through
the
L
A
Subway,
or
no
immediate
access
to
the
Regional
Trail
trains
without
having
a
car.
So
both
the
nine
and
the
27
are
widely
utilized
by
our
population.
AG
Chestnut
and
people
could
transfer
to
one
of
those
buses
to
get
down
into
the
depths
of
Center
City
down
to
Jefferson,
Will's
eye
and
so
forth,
and
then
the
bus
could
go
over
20th
to
Market
and
back
out.
So
that's
that's
just
an
idea,
but
the
we
really
would
like
to
preserve
the
current
service
on
both
the
nine
and
the
27
that
we
currently
have.
Thank
you
very
much
and.
AF
Thank
you.
The
one
thing
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
stress
Kathleen
mentioned
a
lot
too,
is
making
sure
that
we
do
include
our
senior
population
as
we're
going
into
some
of
these
planning
ideas
and
I.
Appreciate
you
doing
that
now.
The
key
roles
that
we're
looking
at
is
the
take
into
account
the
wait
times
and
if
the
areas
are
undercover
for
our
population,
the
distance
at
the
walk,
and
especially
the
number
of
transfers
that
are
needed
by.
K
AF
A
AH
AB
AB
A
I
Or
I
was
just
we
heard
the
comments.
We
appreciate
the
acknowledgment
that
change
is
needed
for
us
to
better
serve
everyone
and
how
seniors
will
be
listened
to
and
we
took
notes
and
we'll
respond
to
everyone.
We
really
appreciate
you
having
your
constituents
on
here.
People
who
use
our
system
on
a
regular
basis,
really
good
comments
were
made
and
and
and
we'll
take
a
we'll
take
a
look
at
it.
I
AB
Thanks
thanks,
commissioner,
and
can
I
ask
councilmember
Johnson
well
what
what
is
the
next
step
for
for
our
community
I
I
know
when
we
met
last,
we
discussed
having
another
Forum
to
present
the
proposed
changes
so
that
our
community
can
see
and
understand
what
what's
the
next
step
and
also
to
give
input
on
that.
Will
we
be
having
a
meeting
later
this
month
or
next
month
in
Roxborough
and
what's
the
process
for
that?
Thank
you.
So.
A
I'm
going
to
defer
to
chairwoman
Richards
because
they
have
an
overall
plan
on
how
they're
going
about-
and
it
was
mentioned
early
on
and
it's
here
and
how
they're
going
to
be
going
about
collecting
data-
and
this
is
just
the
beginning
of
this
process.
But
actually
this
process
been
going
on
from
my
understanding
for
a
while,
so
I'm
sure
everyone,
Leslie
and
your
team.
Do
you
want
to
reiterate
what
you
explain
to.
I
Us
yeah
and
go
into
some
of
the
specifics
that
representative
Khan
just
asked,
but
just
for
everyone,
maybe
in
case
anyone
is
new
to
this
conversation.
This
is
the
first
draft
that
we're
taking
comments
on
now.
We
will
put
forward
a
second
draft
after
we
have
considered
every
single
comment
in
the
thousands,
by
the
way
that
that
we
have
received
I'll,
let
Dan
go
through
the
timeline
of
that
and
then
just
so.
Everyone
knows,
then
there
will
be
another
revision
and
that
will
come
to
a
public
hearing.
I
We
will
make
sure
that
the
timeline
and
the
slides
that
we
shared
earlier
are
available
to
everybody.
Obviously
we
will
also
answer
questions.
If
anyone
has
questions
on
that
timeline,
but
also
want
to
reiterate
that
what
we're
discussing
now
the
changes
will
be
implemented
in
the
fall
of
2024..
There
will
be
a
lot
more
discussion
and
we'll
make
sure
that
we
reach
out
to
everybody
and
work
with
our
state
and
local
officials
to
make
sure
we
do
that,
as
well
with
the
senior
community,
disability,
community
and
others,
but
Dan.
AI
K
The
representative,
how
we
spoke
at
the
at
the
event
and
I
think
what
what
makes
sense,
because
your
District
or
the
your
area,
as
well
as
Council
councilman
Jones's
area,
there
was
more
fluidity
in
some
of
those
neighborhoods,
so
I
think.
Maybe
what
makes
sense
is
to
meet
in
February
and
I'll
and
I.
Have
your
email
address,
so
I'll
I'll
email,
you
offline
and
to
set
up
sort
of
a
smaller.
K
K
Why
don't
we
talk
this
week
about
what
makes
the
most
sense
specifically
for
for
that
area
and
then,
in
terms
of
like
the
grand
scheme
of
things
we
do
plan
on
unveiling
the
next
like
full
draft
in
March
and
that
will
that
will
include
another
full
round
of
meetings,
but
because
some
areas
there's
a
little
more
volatility
and
change
than
others.
I
do
think.
A
meeting
in
February
is
a
good
idea
to
kind
of
at
least
establish
what
what
is
and
is
not
being
proposed
at
this
point
in
time.
AJ
A
H
Our
goal
is
to
amplify
the
voices
of
underrepresented,
Riders
and
permit
Transit
equity
and
access
to
Economic
Opportunity.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
today,
I'm
here
today
to
speak
in
support
of
the
Bus
Revolution
project
and
discuss
why
we
need
a
new
bus.
Network
buses
are
a
Lifeline
for
all
philadelphians.
They
connect
us
to
family,
community
and
culture
and
move
Riders
to
wear
trains.
Trolleys
and
Subways
simply
cannot
writers
depend
on
SEPTA
buses
to
provide
access
to
jobs.
H
Health
care
and
every
other
essential
service,
but
without
a
fast,
frequent,
reliable
bus,
Network
Riders
lose
access
to
the
countless
opportunities
to
the
Greater
Philadelphia
region
has
to
offer
to
set
the
forward.
Bus
Revolution
project
is
a
chance
to
make
these
opportunities
possible
by
providing
more
frequent
and
reliable
travel
during
the
middle
of
the
day
and
on
the
weekends.
Higher
frequency
means
more
buses
and
less
time
waiting
for
the
bus.
Higher
frequency
also
translates
to
more
reliability
and
predictability,
which
will
allow
Riders
to
arrive
at
their
destinations
faster
and
on
time.
H
Currently
49
of
SEPTA's,
total
ridership
is
accounted
for
in
buses
and
trackless
trolleys,
but
73
of
jobs
and
almost
80
percent
of
Philadelphia
residents
on
our
in
are
in
areas
that
have
the
market
demand
to
support
frequent
Transit.
So
clearly,
a
deeper
investment
and
more
robust
service
should
follow
in
order
to
meet
that
demand
in
2016
after
Houston,
overall
overhauled
its
bus
system.
The
entire
network
benefited
after
a
year
of
the
redesign.
H
Their
bus
system
alone
saw
an
increase
in
ridership,
but
through
a
more
interconnected
Network,
there
came
a
network
right,
network-wide
increase
in
ridership
of
seven
percent
in
Miami
Advocates
Focus,
their
best
network
redesign
on
residents
without
access
to
cars.
The
new
bus
Network
now
puts
twice
as
many
of
those
households
within
a
five-minute
walk
of
frequent
Transit.
These
are
the
sorts
of
Transit
improvements.
Philadelphia
could
see
with
a
successful
redesign
and
a
fully
funded
bus.
H
Some
rich
still
follow
paths
that
were
designed
for
horse-drawn
carriages
and
the
current
bus
network
was
designed
during
a
time
when
segregation
and
redlining
were
still
legal.
The
network
is
old
and
clearly
in
need
of
change.
Since
2014
average
bus
speeds
have
declined
with
a
majority
of
buses
running
Under
12
miles
per
hour.
H
All
these
factors
have
led
to
many
bus
riders,
no
longer
seeing
the
bus
as
a
reliable
and
dependable
Transportation
option,
and
this
was
evident
in
the
Years
leading
up
to
the
pandemic.
When
SEPTA
was
seeing
a
steady
decline
in
bus
ridership
prior
to
the
pandemic,
there
was
a
13
drop
in
the
bus
ridership,
even
though
the
City's
population
was
growing.
Poor
frequency,
slow
bus
speeds
and
an
unreliable
bus
service
have
forced
Riders
to
no
longer
use
and
depend
on
SEPTA
buses
as
a
viable
Transportation
option.
H
In
2021,
our
Coalition
conducted
a
survey
of
over
2
400
bus
riders
and
79
percent
of
respondents
stated
that
poor
bus
service
was
their
top
concern.
Included
in
that
is
59
of
riders
reporting
that
buses
are
unreliable
and
don't
show
up
when
they
say
they
will
55
reported
that
the
buses
are
infrequent
and
don't
arrive.
Often
enough
and
32
percent
reported
that
buses
are
slow
and
don't
move
fast
enough.
Philadelphia's
bus
system
is
broken
and
it
needs
fixing
to
respond
to
the
Contemporary
needs
of
residents
and
fix
historic
inequities
that
have
gone
unaddressed.
H
These
are
all
problems
that
the
Bus
Revolution
can
help
to
improve,
but
results
would
be
even
better
if
the
proposed
project
was
not
Revenue
neutral.
Currently,
the
city
of
Philadelphia
provides
one
of
the
lowest
local
funding
contributions
for
public
transit,
despite
being
among
the
top
10
cities
in
the
United
States
and
generated
Revenue.
We
provide
less
local
support
than
peer
cities
such
as
Phoenix,
Chicago
and
Seattle.
Increased
local
funding
can
help
to
make
sure
the
current
Revenue
neutral.
H
Bus
Revolution
is
more
effective
for
our
residents
who
depend
on
buses
or
whose
livelihoods
would
drastically
improved.
By
being
able
to
rely
on
transit,
city-controlled
Solutions
like
bus,
only
Lanes
signal,
prioritization,
corner
daylighting
and
well-lit
shelters
with
seating
and
Bus
Stop
Parking
Enforcement
can
also
help
to
improve
that
help
to
make
the
most
of
a
redesigned
system
creating
faster,
more
dependable
buses
for
Philadelphia's
residents,
when
31
of
Philadelphia
households
lack
access
to
a
car
and
28
of
SEPTA
Riders
are
under
150
percent
of
the
poverty
line.
H
An
investment
in
buses
is
an
investment
in
supporting
our
residents
who
need
access
the
most
amid
new
post,
quarantine
work
schedules.
The
shift
in
transit
use
that
already
began
prior
to
the
pandemic
does
not
match
the
last
century
of
Transit
planning
designed
to
serve
the
traditional
nine
to
five
commuters
going
in
and
out
of
Center
City.
The
Bus
Revolution
can
offer
faster,
more
frequent
service
during
off-peak
hours,
with
the
most
drastic
changes
coming
to
midweek
Day
and
weekend
service.
So
we
can
use
transit
for
all
of
our
needs.
H
A
R
Hi,
my
name
is
Cameron
Adamas,
Transit,
Committee,
Member
of
fifth
Square
last
name,
a
d,
a
n
e
z,
Cameron
c-a-m-e-r-o-n
I
work
at
a
grocery
store
and
I'm
a
bus
rider
as
well
as
being
part
of
fifth
Square.
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
address
you
today.
I
agree,
then
overhaul.
The
bus
network
is
a
big
task
and
should
not
be
taken
lightly.
I
think
it's
fair
to
keep
sept
accountable.
However,
it's
disingenuous
to
come
forward
to
challenge
a
project
that
has
been
in
the
works
for
years.
R
Many
stand
to
benefit
from
Bus
Revolution
and
we
cannot
leave
them
out
in
the
cold
in
favor
of
a
less
usable
system.
For
the
sake
of
comfort
we
take
in
the
devil.
We
know.
Eight
council
districts
will
gain
operational
hours
from
the
redesign.
As
there's
been
more
feedback
on
the
draft
Network,
there
will
be
more
changes.
The
redesign
itself
is
revenue
neutral,
that
is,
the
operating
budget
will
not
be
increased.
While
making
these
changes,
it
means
the
designers
must
make
trade-offs,
which
will
inevitably
upset
some
writers.
R
I
have
called
on
Septa
many
times
to
not
have
a
revenue
neutral
design,
but
matching
funds
from
the
city
are
not
there.
This
is
counter
to
other
smaller
cities
like
Cleveland,
St,
Louis
or
Charlotte
that
do
contribute
matching
funds.
Is
it
the
council's
intention
to
get
a
design
that
has
a
higher
operating
budget
and,
if
so,
I
would
be
in
favor
of
this
move,
regardless
of
whether
SEPTA
is
allowed
to
go
forward
with
changes
to
the
bus
Network,
it
will
still
need
better
infrastructure
to
support
a
higher
throughput
of
vehicles
on
specific
corridors.
R
The
required
infrastructure
is
outlined
by
Otis
in
their
document.
The
Philadelphia
Transit
plan
a
vision
for
2045.,
supported
by
this
very
Council.
There
are
also
great
suggestions
for
priority
light
timings,
which
could
be
done
now.
The
most
important
part
of
this
plan,
however,
is
creating
dedicated
bus
lanes
potential
bus
only
lanes
are
either
in
neighborhoods,
with
a
higher
propensity
towards
Transit,
like
North
Philadelphia
or
in
Center
City,
which
would
improve
Network
times
overall
I
created
a
petition
to
show
support
for
dedicated
bus
lanes,
which
has
more
than
300
signatures.
R
I
also
brought
up
bus
lanes
during
a
WHYY
group.
Discussion
on
parking
in
South
Philly,
since
it
would
require
removing
parking
South
philadelphiaans
would
rather
lose
their
pants
than
lose
the
parking
spot
and
the
group
after
mulling
it
over.
They
were
supportive
of
removing
parking
for
bus
lanes
because
it
would
make
a
net
positive
change.
City
council
must
make
bus
lanes
a
reality
to
facilitate
this
network.
Redesign
plus
Roots
also
need
amenities
like
bus,
shelters
and
signage,
not
having
these
basic
amenities
is
frustrating
to
long-time
Riders
and
will
not
attract
New
Riders.
R
R
The
public
assumes
that
SEPTA
is
in
control
of
the
bus
stops,
but
that's
incorrect
I've
asked
both
SEPTA
and
City
officials
how
we
can
get
better
amenities,
but
there's
been
no
clear
answer.
The
lack
of
amenities
seems
due
to
the
sidewalks
being
controlled
by
Property
Owners,
a
lack
of
money
and
a
lack
of
political
will.
Council
members
can
easily
get
bus
amenities
in
Key
Parts
of
their
districts
if
they
so
choose.
R
Looking
at
the
whole
picture,
it
is
embarrassing
for
a
city
council
of
a
municipality
this
large
to
call
a
special
meeting
for
a
Transit
Agency
plan,
instead
of
maintaining
a
good
working
relationship
with
Transit
agencies
consistently
over
time.
It
is
also
strange
to
see
the
council
be
recently
concerned
with
public
transit
despite
having
a
third
of
lower
income
residents,
relying
on
public
transit
throughout
their
lives
and
with
half
of
all
transit
trips.
R
Taking
a
bus
I
would
think
that
everyone
would
work
together
for
the
benefit
of
all
philadelphians
if
SEPTA
is
ordered
to
end
the
bus
Network
redesign.
Does
city
council
have
concrete
plans
to
improve
the
bus
network
with
a
timeline
with
Milestones?
Does
city
council
want
to
execute
the
vision
of
a
city
with
a
robust
Transit
Network
that
empowers
philadelphians
to
live
their
fullest
or
as
city
council
content,
with
a
system
that
is
about
to
disappear.
AK
Hello
council,
member
Johnson,
my
name
is
Mason
Carter
and
I
am
chair
of
the
SEPTA
citizen
advisory
committee.
Thank
you
to
councilmember
Johnson
and
the
transportation
subcommittee
for
listening
to
my
testimony
today.
Addressing
the
Bus
Revolution
I
have
been
a
member
of
the
citizen
advisory
committee.
For
six
years.
All
members
are
appointed
by
either
the
city
or
the
Suburban
counties,
and
so
we
have
worked
extensively
with
both
SEPTA
and
Otis
to
make
incremental
improvements
through
our
City's
transportation
systems.
AK
One
of
the
big
big
lessons
that
I've
taken
away
from
sitting
on
the
CAC
has
been
the
structure
of
responsibility
for
addressing
issues.
It's
not
clear-cut.
Some
issues
are
clearly
in
SEPTA's
domain,
others
rest
with
the
streets
department,
others
rest
with
traffic
traffic
enforcement.
The
list
goes
on.
AK
Unfortunately,
I
have
observed
that
the
city
tends
to
take
more
of
a
passive
role
in
our
transportation
system,
while
SEPTA
is
often
help
us
to
address
City
issues
that
hobble
the
buses
personally
I'm
a
frequent
writer
of
all
modes
of
transportation
and
use
the
buses
every
day,
I
have
lived
in
multiple
neighborhoods
in
my
Philadelphia
life
and
currently
live
in
Germantown.
I
live
in
a
single
car
household
and
choose
to
frequently
use
public
transportation.
AK
Our
transportation
system
can
take
us
almost
anywhere
in
Philadelphia
and
Beyond,
but
for
many
it
cannot
take
us
there
quickly
or
reliably.
People
without
a
car
are
sadly
and
undeservedly
placed
at
a
disadvantage
day
in
day
out
compared
to
a
car
owner.
Time
is
money
and
car
Centric
policies
over
Generations
have
caused
many
riders
to
lose
income
at
no
fault
of
their
own.
When
I'm
riding
the
bus
I
like
to
sit,
look
out
the
window
and
observe
I
see
many
many
things
I
see
the
obstacles
that
buses
frequently
encounter.
AK
I,
see
that
the
few
dedicated
boat
slams
have
are
very
half-heartedly
enforced.
There's
no
signal,
prioritization
I,
barely
see
any
traffic
enforcement,
while
our
city
has
a
tremendous
Legacy
system.
Other
cities
like
Seattle,
Chicago
and
Boston
are
innovating
traffic
flow.
While
we
continue
to
rely
on
the
achievements
of
the
past
and
stagnant,
the
Bus
Revolution
is
a
reaction
to
the
conditions
that
have
caused
poor
reliability
and
low
speeds
without
the
city
doing
all
that
it
can
to
help
the
buses.
Any
achievements
made
with
the
Bus
Revolution
will
be
immediately
undermined.
AK
I
do
believe
the
traffic
conditions
that
hobble
the
buses
should
be
addressed.
First
then,
the
routes,
but
because
this
wasn't
done,
the
Bus
Revolution
is
an
even
greater
necessity,
but
the
biggest
issue
that
needs
to
be
addressed
with
the
process
of
the
Bus
Revolution
has
been
the
need
post-neutral,
while
responsible
on
SEPTA's
part.
This
is
a
defeatist
philosophy
that
SEPTA
was
required
to
adopt,
because
local
funding
for
Transit
has
been
extremely
low
compared
to
Pure
cities.
The
city
has
not
offered
any
funding
beyond
the
status
quo.
AK
The
cost
of
neutral
philosophy
is
not
only
a
practical
way
to
make
truly
lasting
improvements.
It
has
also
caused
some
proposed
cuts.
That
would
not
need
to
happen
if
there
was
a
philosophy
of
ridership
investment
Riders
who
have
been
with
the
system
through
thick
and
thin
deserve
ridership
investment.
Some
Roots
should
be
cut
others,
but
new
ones
should
be
created.
Others
need
to
be
have
much
better
frequency
and
investment
to
Blossom.
The
Bus
Revolution
is
a
Nimble
and
ongoing
process
that
needs
more
help
from
the
city.
AK
Ridership
investment,
like
any
other
investment,
is
a
concept
that
will
not
necessarily
show
results
overnight,
but
the
amount
of
lives
that
will
be
changed
over
time
will
be
tremendous.
We
all
know
that
poverty
is
a
crippling
issue.
Our
city
is
actively
trying
to
solve
the
issue
from
many
different
angles.
This
is
a
complicated
Beast
with
no
clear
solution,
but
there
is
one
clear
way
that
will
give
people
a
leg
up
immediately
if
implemented,
and
that
is
better
Transit
that
doesn't
put
people
at
a
disadvantage
over
car
ownership,
which
we
all
know
is
extremely
expensive.
AK
I
will
never
forget
when
I
once
been
a
man
years
ago
that
was
homeless
because
he
had
lost
his
job
as
a
contractor.
We
ended
up
spending
a
lot
of
time
together
that
day
and
I
bought
him
a
20
pack
of
tokens.
He
told
me
that
Transit
was
his
Lifeline
into
finding
a
new
job
and
being
able
to
keep
one
imagine
if
we
invested
in
our
ridership
to
increase
our
bus
frequencies
and
speeds
that
went
beyond
the
cost,
neutral
philosophy.
AK
Imagine
how
many
more
people
could
get
to
the
jobs
that
they
need
see
the
people
that
they
need
to
see
and
frequent
the
businesses
that
they
need
to
frequent.
While
it's
been
great
that
there
has
been
a
resolution
to
adopt
the
Otis
Transit
plan,
we
need
to
think
even
bigger.
We
need
a
streets
department
that
can
better
coordinate
with
septic.
We
need
more
local
funding.
We
need
real
traffic
enforcement
from
police
and
PPA.
AK
We
need
signal
prioritization.
We
need
bus
lines
so
that
the
buses
can
operate
quickly
and,
predictably,
we
need
to
give
people
the
freedom
to
not
need
a
car
in
order
to
have
an
economic
advantage.
Bus
riders
deserve
the
same
if
not
greater
investment
that
car
riders
receive,
but
I
have
seen
the
most
from
the
massive
public
response
towards
the
Bus
Revolution
is
that
people
value
their
roots
without
their
Roots?
Their
lives
would
be
much
worse
to
lift
people
out
of
Pride
poverty
and
into
Prosperity.
AK
Our
city
has
many
tools
at
its
disposal,
as
I
stated
before,
but
there's
no
toll
in
my
opinion
that
we'll
have
more
many
visible
knock-on
effects
in
the
short
term
is
giving
everyone
the
chance
to
get
everywhere.
They
need
to
go
so
I
asked
the
transit
subcommittee
today
to
please
consider
taking
a
more
Hands-On
approach
with
giving
our
ridership
the
investment
that
it
deserves.
The
Bus
Revolution
needs
extra
investment
from
the
city,
not
just
divvying
up
routes
and
being
a
post-neutral
puzzle
to
solve.
AK
We
need
a
mix
of
operational
and
capital
funding
to
make
this
a
true
Revolution
for
all.
This
extra
funding
can
come
from
several
different
sources,
starting
with
traffic
enforcement,
fines
and
going
from
there.
We
need
more
coordination
from
different
departments,
the
city
also
the
sea.
The
city
needs
to
also
follow
the
lead
of
its
pure
cities
and
surpass
them
to
give
buses
the
speed
and
reliability
advantage
over
cars.
AK
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
testimony.
That
concludes
this
panel,
and
now
we
will
go
into.
We
would
take
a
brief
pause
and
then
go
into
public
comment.
We
have
a
very,
very
extensive
list
for
public
comments
and
I
would
like
to
ask
for
a
scepter
Team
less
than
your
team,
to
stick
around
to
listen
to
The
Wider
public
comments
as
well.
It's
about
68
people
and
so
we're
pretty
much
going
to
spend
the
rest
of
our
afternoon
listening
to
the
concerns,
and
rather
that's
concerns,
support
as
well.
A
We
don't
know,
but
a
significant
amount
of
people
have
reached
out
to
provide
public
testimony.
We
had
to
turn
some
people
away
because
they
were
calling
even
up
to
this
morning
past
the
deadline,
which
was
three
o'clock
yesterday
and
so
we'll
take
a
brief
pause.
We
have
also
been
welcomed
back
by
councilman,
chairperson,
Curtis,
Jones
and
I
will
take
a
brief
pause
and
then
we
will
be
back
for.
A
A
B
Absolutely
and
real
fast
before
we
begin
we're
asking
all
public
commenters
if
they
can
do
their
best
to
keep
their
testimony
to
two
minutes,
as
we
have
new
a
large
volume
of
colors,
and
we
just
want
to
ensure
that
everyone's
comments
can
be
heard
and
also
if
anyone
had
to
drop
off
and
is
still
monitoring
due
to
conflicts
or
work,
you
may
submit
written
testimony
to
Brett
b-r-e-t-t
Dot
nettlecroft
and
is
a
Nancy
e
d
e
l
k,
o
f,
f
at
phila.gov
and
now.
First,
we
have
for
this
resolution.
Lance
Haver.
AA
Every
good
afternoon,
my
name
is
Lance
Haver
I'm,
the
consumer
reporter
for
Hall
Monitor,
a
lenses
Foundation
funded
partner
of
the
every
voice,
every
vote
project.
We
are
a
2023
nominee
for
the
Philadelphia
news,
Awards
in
the
Broadcast
News
category.
I
want
to
commend
city
council
for
holding
these
hearings.
Philadelphia
is
80
of
the
system
with
80
percent
of
the
infrastructure,
eighty
percent
of
the
Riders
and
80
percent
of
the
local
subsidy.
AA
Yet
the
city
holds
less
than
15
percent
of
the
votes
on
the
SEPTA
board,
which
might
explain
why
Suburban
Transit
have
greater
subsidies
than
City
Transit
division.
Only
an
editorial
board
that
believes
the
Commonwealth
foundation
in
out
of
touch
corporate
think
tank
should
have
weekly
access
to
its
readers
could
believe
that
City
councils
should
do
not
should
not
do
what
it
can
to
ensure
that
City
SEPTA
Riders
are
well
served
by
the
system.
AA
As
a
reporter
I
covered
the
meeting
council
member
Joan
and
21st
Ward
leader
Lou
Ager
organized
recepta
to
explain
plan
to
eliminate
direct
bus
service
from
the
Northwest
to
Center
City.
What
was
truly
shocking
was
sepsis
leads
consultant
explanation,
and
this
was
recorded
and
played
on
air.
If
anyone
wants
a
copy,
I'm
happy
to
get
it
to
him.
The
consultant
stated
that
her
team
studied,
who
used
the
bus
service
during
the
covid
shutdown.
AA
The
team's
recommendations,
are
designed
to
meet
the
need
of
those
that
road
SEPTA
during
covet,
not
those
who
are
using
the
SEPTA
now
or
who
will
be
using
SEPTA
as
the
city
reopens
and
rebuilds.
Unbelievably,
the
consultant
is
recommending
a
design
to
meet
a
city
whose
schools
are
closed.
Offices
are
virtual
Restaurant.
Entertainment
are
curtailed,
a
future
that
predicts
fewer
SEPTA
Riders,
not
more
a
smaller
City
population.
Despite
the
city's
growing
population
and
where
cars,
both
private
and
through
quote
unquote,
ride
sharing
are
more
important
than
public
transit.
Septa's
main
Outreach
was
through
the
internet.
AA
AA
First
meeting
with
communities
and
Civic
groups,
elected
officials,
schools,
houses
and
warships
and
others
before
they
issue,
any
redesign
accepted
decides
to
go
through
with
the
cuts
that
will
harm
the
City
Riders
I
urge
city
council
to
cut
SEPTA
subsidies,
don't
pay
for
a
system
that
doesn't
serve
us.
Thank
you
for
this
time.
A
C
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman,
just
want
to
thank
Lance
and
I
I
go
back
far
enough
to
call
him
that,
for
his
consistent
advocacy
for
consumers
throughout
the
decades
and
for
him
being
at
that
21st
award
meeting
where
people
voice
their
concerns
about
a
revolution
that
Garcia
wasn't
televised
and
to
to
basically
say
some
of
the
issues
and
inequities
between
urban
Riders
and
Suburban
writers
in
representation
on
the
board.
So
thank
you
for
those
insights
Lance.
Thank
you.
P
Yes,
good
afternoon,
Judith
Queen
Judith
Robinson
here
I'm
representing
the
32nd
Ward
I,
also
I'm,
a
recent
member
former
member
of
the
Delaware
Valley
Regional
Planning
Commission
public
participation
task
force.
My
major
concerns
are
notification
to
the
public.
The
awareness
has
not
been
Outreach
has
not
been
good
public
participation
and
Pathways
to
have
input.
P
I'm
trying
to
get
clarity
on
the
changes.
Is
it
speed
of
the
buses?
Is
it
reliability?
Is
it
a
lack
of
ridership
or
is
it
funding?
If
we
put
our
heads
together
in
the
public
is
made
aware
of
how
we
can
participate,
then
we
could
sort
out
all
of
these
things.
Thank
you
all
of
the
council
people
and
the
elected
officials.
Your
questions
have
been
very
poignant.
Thank
you.
Lance
Haver.
You
also
were
at
the
meeting
at
1234
Market
Street,
which
was
chaotic.
P
It
was
chaos
we
could
not
get
heads
or
tails
I
am
here
advocating
for
the
folks
of
North
Philadelphia
idea
who
everyone
I
asked
whether
they're
writers,
young
old,
they
are
not
aware.
The
33
bus
is
not
broken.
It
does
not
need
to
continue
down
to
South
Philly,
where
we
then
are
competing
with
the
17
riders
in
order
to
get
down
Market
Street
a
few
blocks
away.
The
transfers
are
not
good.
P
The
statistics
are
tainted,
I
am
a
healthy,
thankfully
Happy
senior
citizen
who
can
move
any
which
way
you
want
change,
is
okay
with
me,
however,
they're
not
considering
the
senior
citizens,
that's
on
Walker
and
wheelchairs,
the
disable,
and
today
we
have
heard
that
so
many
constituencies
have
not
been
informed.
Lance,
Haber,
I,
agree.
Septa
needs
to
start
over
again,
including
all
of
the
folk
who
have
not
been
included,
and
we
need
to
have
clear,
concise
information
about
how
we
move
forward.
I
hope.
P
Z
This
is
Susanna
Berger
I
just
heard
the
the
beep.
Now
you
may
begin
your
testimony.
Okay,
thank
you
so
so
much
my
name
is
Suzanne
Berger
and
as
a
Philadelphia
resident,
who
relied
on
Septa
to
get
around
this
morning,
I
want
to
urge
city
council
to
implement
bus
lanes
throughout
our
city.
Septa
faces
many
challenges
in
improving
bus
service,
but
the
one
area
where
the
city
government
can
most
directly
help
is
getting
buses
out
of
congestion.
Rita
King
leans
for
buses
will
speed
up
the
buses
at,
incidentally,
improve
frequencies.
Z
This
Council,
you
know,
I
love
to
talk
about
including
equity,
and
implementing
bus
lanes
is
a
great
opportunity
to
back
up
the
rhetoric
with
an
actual
policy
that
will
improve
the
lives
of
bus
riders.
Like
myself,
please
prove
to
us
that
these
hearings
aren't.
You
know,
an
opportunity
to
grab
headlines,
but
rather
a
time
that
our
city
council
members
can
Implement
policies
like
supporting
new
bus
lanes
that
will
match
campaign
promises.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
your
time.
Bye,
foreign.
AL
Yeah
good
afternoon,
good
afternoon,
everybody
good
afternoon,
everyone,
my
name,
is
Carol
Foy
and
I-
am
a
member
of
Philly,
Thrive
and
I'm.
Also
a
member
of
the
Easter
service
worker
and
my
concern
is
the
12
bus
and
the
64
bus.
Many
people
ride
that
12
bus
for
over
a
decade,
I
am
70
years
old.
I
have
been
riding
that
12
bus
stations.
I
was
a
kid
live
without
22nd
Street
now
I'm
living
in
the
great
Westbury
area
and
I
said.
AL
Take
the
children
to
the
school
is
very
important
for
the
for
the
children
to
be
able
to
get
to
school,
because
my
grand
my
great-grandson
brought
this
64
bus
to
go
all
the
way
to
46th
and
Fairmont
to
school,
and
it
was
jeopardize
a
lot
of
people
lies
and
stuff
like
that,
because
everyone,
depending
on
that
12
bucks
and
that
64
bucks
and
I,
don't
see
nobody
why
they
should
change
around
anyway,
even
December.
Why
should
they
change
December
and
make
December
go
down
Market
when
they
used
to
go
to
Northfield?
AL
Buses
got
y'all
one
bus
to
get
on
another
bus
and
I
fed
them,
then,
like
they
said
before
that,
there's
a
lot
of
people,
that's
in
wheelchairs
on
oxygen
like
in
front
of
my
zone,
so
like
this
I,
don't
want
that
girl,
I
walk
with
a
cane,
so
one
bus
would
take
me
where
I
want
to
go
at.
Take
me
from
and
bring
me
back
home.
So
thank
you
for
letting
me
speak
today.
AI
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
we
can
hello.
Okay,
my
name
is
Susan
Packer
I
live
in
South,
Philadelphia
and
I'm
very
concerned
about
the
proposed
changes
to
the
Route
45
bus,
which
runs
north
on
11th
and
south
on
12th,
between
South
Philadelphia
and
Center
City.
All
within
councilman,
School
of
District
zepto
wants
to
change
the
frequency
of
that
bus
from
10
to
12
minutes
now
to
30
minutes
apart.
AI
AI
If
there
are
only
a
few
of
them
and
it
will
be
an
unnecessary
hardship
on
the
students,
most
of
whom
can't
drive
I-
understand
from
the
testimony
I've
heard
here
earlier,
that
the
that
SEPTA
intends
to
engage
with
the
school
district
on
these
issues
and
I
believe
they
said
with
the
individual
principles.
I
hope
that
means
that
they
will
reach
out
to
the
principal
of
the
academy
at
Palumbo,
as
well
as
the
principal
of
Newman
Goretti,
which
is
also
located
on
the
11th
Street
Bus
Line,
the
45..
AI
In
addition,
there
are
many
elderly
neighbors
of
mine
that
are
served
by
the
45
going
into
Center
City
to
Jefferson
and
Pennsylvania
hospitals
for
doctors,
appointments
and
I
myself,
as
long
as
well
as
many
neighbors
commute
on
the
45
from
South
Philly
to
my
job
in
Center
City.
So
please
reconsider
the
the
time
changes
that
you
were
making
to
that
arterial
bus
line
as
well
as
many
others
that
we've
heard
throughout
the
city
are
being
similarly
affected.
Thank
you.
AM
Oh,
my
name
is
Larry
I
am
a
former
SEPTA
Street
supervisor,
Through
Time
Midfield
District
Rodeo
champion
and
I
used
to
drive
my
bus
just
to
Santa
Claus
for
Christmas
I
have
a
passion,
percepta
and
A
Love
Affair
for
the
city
of
Philadelphia
and
I.
Think
scepter
needs
to
be
back
connecting
with
the
people
in
the
city
who
they
serve.
AM
They
are
currently
going
throughout
the
system
and
removing
benches
from
all
the
terminals.
There's
very
rare
in
the
city
of
Philadelphia
to
see
benches
a
Transit
stop.
If
you
go
into
the
region,
the
regional
rail
you
see
benches
everywhere
and
that
commitment
to
the
public
needs
to
be
there.
We
are
a
public
good.
Unfortunately,
Pennsylvania
is
Pittsburgh
to
the
West
Philadelphia
to
the
East
and
Alabama
in
the
middle
and
I've
traveled
extensively
through
Pennsylvania
and
there's
a
round
hatred
for
the
city
of
Philadelphia
and
I.
Believe
that's
racially
based
entertained.
AM
AM
I
partnered,
with
the
end
of
oacp,
to
get
benches
installed
at
Broad,
and
only
and
those
benches
are
still
there
and
I
hope
it
improved
upon
Frankfort
terminal.
The
benches
are
removed,
69th
Street,
the
benches
are
removed.
That
is
a
slippery
slope.
If
we
do
not
treat
the
riding
public
with
the
respect
that
they
deserve.
The
system
itself
has
to
be
looked
upon
more
than
transporting
people
from
one
place
to
the
other
oftentimes
people
who
ride
SEPTA.
That
is
their
only
choice.
They
cannot
drive
because
of
their
physical
or
mental
disability.
AM
I
myself
collect
Social
Security
Disability
from
a
car
accident.
I
understand
what
it's
like
to
ride:
a
public
transit
vehicle
with
a
disability.
One
of
my
major
calls
years
ago
as
a
street
Supervisor,
was
servicing
wheelchair
lifts.
Thankfully,
the
whole
system
is
transitioned
over
to
low
floor
vehicles,
and
that
is
a
wonderful
positive
outcome
to
people.
Looking
at
the
needs
of
the
community
and
putting
the
Community
First
God
gave
us
this
wonderful
system
technology.
We
have
apps
that
could
tell
us
where
buses
are.
We
have
enunciators
that
announce
where
the
buses
are
going.
AM
We
have
drivers
that
are
trade,
SEPTA
has
the
best
training
of
the
transportation
industry
anywhere
in
this
country,
and
we
are
controlled
by
a
region
that
alienates
the
city
of
Philadelphia.
If
you
go
to
Phoenix
Arizona
every
time
they
add
to
the
surrounding
area
that
is
incorporated
into
Phoenix
Arizona,
whereas
Philadelphia
all
of
the
money
and
resources
are
in
the
five
counties
outside
of
Philadelphia
and
Philadelphia
has
all
the
problems,
but
none
of
the
resources.
AM
We
have
all
the
concerns,
but
none
of
the
voices
that
could
bring
about
the
positive
change,
I'm,
also
the
founder
of
a
new
organization.
That's
just
coming
into
being
right
now
called
quantil.
You
know
what
this
consult
is,
and
all
of
us
know
what
that
is.
This
crumpled
is
the
opposite
of
gruntled
everything's
synonymous
with
feeling
happy
and
blessed.
AM
AN
Okay
good
afternoon,
and
thank
you
for
having
me
I'm,
David,
leichling
and
I'm,
calling
from
South
Brunswick
in
Middlesex
County,
New
Jersey,
which
might
make
you
wonder.
Why
is
a
person
from
the
suburbs
offering
comment
here?
First,
many
Transit
agencies
over
the
decades
have
held
a
bias
in
planning
for
attracting
Outsiders
from
distant
suburbs
into
their
cities.
The
expectation
goes
that
they
will
only
arrive
by
driving,
and
so
the
cities
have
revised
themselves
to
provide
Urban
freeways,
car
Centric
streets
and
abundant
parking
for
the
last
several
years.
AN
On
my
own
visits
to
Philadelphia
I've
gotten
there
via
Regional
Rail
on
the
Trenton
line
and
PATCO,
they
are
good,
useful
feeders
into
Philadelphia.
Second,
as
a
Suburban
Outsider,
it's
clear
SEPTA
should
focus
on
the
needs
of
philadelphians.
First
and
foremost,
the
guests
to
your
city
like
myself,
must
come.
Second,
namely
our
cars
must
come
second
in
looking
to
focus
on
local
needs,
Septimus
prioritize,
their
local
Transit,
their
bus
routes
as
part
of
the
Bus
Revolution.
You
must
rededicate
more
Road
space
away
from
cars
and
four
bus
lanes
speaking
to
functionality.
AN
Bus
lanes
improve
the
efficiency,
speed,
reliability
and
safety
of
transit.
For
your
residents,
visibility
for
Outsiders
like
me,
having
clearly
visible
bus
lanes,
makes
their
service
a
clear
priority
when
they're
visible,
they're
perceived
as
being
more
useful
and
we,
as
guests
will
be
more
likely
to
take
buses
and
public
transit
than
to
drive
from
a
conceptual
level
if
your
buses
are
getting
delayed
by
mixed
traffic.
The
dedication
of
space
for
cars
is
the
problem
dedication
of
Road
space
for
buses
with
bus
Lanes.
AO
AO
I
live
in
Strawberry,
Mansion
and
I
can
get
just
about
anywhere
using
SEPTA,
so
I
understand
that
SEPTA
is
a
valuable
resource
to
Philadelphia
it's
because
of
this
value.
That
is
of
major
importance
that
the
any
major
overhauls
to
a
system
take
into
consideration
the
people
it
serves,
especially
those
the
economic
impact
of
the
people
that
it
serves
so
living
in
Strawberry,
Mansion
and
looking
over
the
ropes
that
will
be
impacted
for
our
community.
Those
routes
include
the
7,
the
48,
the
49s,
the
32
and
the
33.
AO
All
popular
routes,
I
have
the
pleasure
of
operating
the
Strawberry,
Mansion,
CDC
and
oftentimes
folks
get
to
our
office,
utilizing
a
Septa
and
we're
able
to
to
send
them
to
other
places
where
they
can
get
assistance
to
the
license.
Septa.
So
I'm
just
going
to
do
some
real
talk,
real,
quick
before
I.
Let
you
guys
go
today!
AO
So,
let's
take,
for
example,
the
Route
7
and
how
it
impacts
folks
in
our
community
from
the
route,
seven
I
am
able
to
walk
to
my
home
and
get
to
South
Philadelphia
through
one
bus
route.
With
this
new
Revolution
plan,
I
will
have
to
take
the
seven
get
off
the
seven
and
then
get
another
bus
to
go
to
South
Philly.
So
that
means,
if
I
don't
have
a
septic
key
card
and
I'm
just
hopping
on
the
bus.
AO
That's
two
fares:
instead
of
one
so
I'm
paying
two
times,
because
I
have
to
get
on
two
buses
instead
of
one-
and
in
case
you
guys
are
not
aware,
SEPTA
has
they,
they
no
longer
have
their
paper
transfer.
So
you
can't
pay
that
extra
50
cents
for
a
transfer
so
that
therefore
there's
an
economic
impact
to
us
to
their
new
plan,
making
it
less
affordable
for
folks
who
have
to
go
to
one
place
and
end
up
having
to
take
two
buses
with
this
new
plan.
AO
So
I
just
thank
you
all
again
for
having
these
hearings
and
hearing
how
septic
and
best
impact
Philadelphia.
This
is
not
a
rag
concept
that
we
know.
We
need
SEPTA,
it's
very
important
to
our
area.
We
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
economic
impact
is
considered
and
that
there's
Equitable
change
throughout
the
system.
Thank
you.
A
U
Yes,
thank
you.
My
name
is
Kelvin
Carrington
I'm
71
years
old
I've
been
riding
septum.
My
entire
life
I've
always
lived
in
South,
Philadelphia,
19146,
zip
code
and
for
about.
My
first
request
is
to
the
member
of
the
city,
council
and
the
state
legislature.
Would
you
please
ask
the
editorial
staff
at
the
inquire,
Daily
News
if
they
might
unlock
the
online
articles
about
deceptive
revolution
in
the
public
interest?
U
Okay,
now
I
want
to
talk
about.
We
went
over
the
course
well.
The
plan
deceptive
has
right
now
essentially
create
chaotic
changes
in
the
schedules
of
the
current
writers.
Without
addressing
the
issues
of
the
cost
safety
or
the
cleanliness,
we
may
have
issues
with
the
timing
of
the
buses,
but
they
are.
These
are
issues
we
have
already
had
and
we've
learned
to
deal
with
them
and
make
our
schedules
accordingly.
U
If
you
change
all
these
schedules
and
people
can't
get
to
work,
it's
a
job
going
to
change
your
job
schedule,
no
I,
don't
think
so.
Okay,
then
we
talk
about
these
L-shaped
routes,
that
you
see
that
I've
been
told,
bicep
to
or
I've
seen
and
meeting,
and
all
that
the
L-shaped
writes
are
a
waste
of
time
or
they're.
Not
time
efficient.
U
My
L-shaped
out
on
route
17.
makes
one
turn
off
a
straight
route
front
on
20th
Street
to
a
straight
run,
down
Market
Street
coming
back.
It
makes
two
turns
and
when
it
goes
around
Midtown
Square,
it's
still
on
19th
Street.
So
we
see
no
reason
whatsoever
and
it
is
a
heavily
travel
route
and
it
was
already
a
10
minute
or
less
integral
during
rush
hour,
and
it's
fast
enough
during
the
day.
U
It's
like
12
13
minutes,
then,
when
you
want
to
talk
about
evening
and
weekend
ridership,
where
you're
going
to
get
it
from
people
that
do
have
cars
get
out
of
town
and
all
the
rest
of
that
stuff.
And
when
you
talk
about
late
night,
yeah
I
feel
bad
for
the
people
that
have
late
night
jobs.
I
had
family
members,
young
women
that
had
to
deal
with
septic
at
all
12
1
2
o'clock
in
the
morning.
U
Thus,
if
you
make
me
get
off
the
17
you're
moving
to
22nd
Steve
from
20th
Street,
it
doesn't
save
anything
with
traffic
problems
or
the
Fallen
infrastructure.
We
don't
know
when
we're
going
to
have
a
collapse
in
the
street
and,
let's
think
about
the
PGW
work
that
they're
doing
it's
3
300
miles
the
pipeline.
They
only
be
placing
33
miles
a
year,
so
this
is
going
to
continue
to
go
on
plus
with
all
this
development
that
you
have.
It's
still
building
up
high
rises
all
over
the
place
and
with
the
gentrification.
U
Well,
all
this
mess
that
you
created
and
that
you
think
that
if
you
change
my
bus
route
from
28th
Street
to
22nd
Street
to
Knoxville
had
the
same
problem.
All
you
want
to
do
is
cause
more
congestion
on
22nd
Street.
It
already
has
a
bike
lane.
Oh
man
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
sense
that
you
don't
want
to
illustrate
about
them.
Explain
to
me
where
this
512
routers
coming
from
with
all
these
turns
in
it.
AP
Good
afternoon
you
could
begin
good
afternoon
I'm
Reverend
telephone
wham's
program
coordinator
for
the
Strawberry
Mansion
Community
Development
Corporation,
the
president.
My
president,
Graham
just
outlined
the
buses
that
these
changes
is
going
to
affect
I
want
to
go
to.
Route
54
is
in
there
as
well
accept
the
word
great
with
us
a
few
years
ago
for
the
Dolphin
Street
blue.
It
is
one
of
the
greatest
loots
in
this
city
right
now,
of
course,
I'm
biased,
but
that
came
because
of
the
participation
of
the
residents
and
SEPTA
working
with
the
residents.
AP
I
want
to
give
kudos
from
this
Wendy
green
army,
who
was
very
intently
with
the
Strawberry
Mansion
city
seed.
We
had
several
meetings,
and
now
we
have
a
bus
blue
second
to
none
in
this
city,
and
it
worked
out
great
and
that's
the
concept
to
listen
and
I
also
had
testify
concerning
the
route
49,
where
SEPTA
wanted
to
stop
at
33rd
Street
and
not
come
in
Strawberry
Mansion,
we
install
baby
Mansion,
we're
organized
y'all,
go
out
and
y'all
pay
consultants
and
you
already
have
consultants
in
communities.
AP
We
communities,
we
Advocate,
we
watch
we
learn
and
then
we
take
action.
But
a
lot
of
people
go
around
us
and
try
to
get
expert
opinion
from
other
people
around
the
country,
except
instead
of
dealing
with
us
who
live
here
and
so
I
just
want
to
say
that
there
needs
to
go
to
go
back
to
the
drawing
board.
It's
not
the
first
time.
Septa
did
it
because
that's
exactly
what
y'all
did
with
the
33rd
Street
bus
barn
and
look
how
that
worked
out.
I.
AP
Trying
to
make
big
changes
when
you're
trying
to
make
big
changes.
You
already
have
Consultants,
you
have
consultants
in
the
cdc's.
You
have
consultants
in
the
next.
You
have
consumptions
out
of
the
counselman's
office
in
the
refs
offices,
who
have
Community
Liaisons,
but
y'all
bro
out
of
the
way
to
bring
in
people
and
then
I
want
to
go
to
that
word
revolution.
It's
a
scary
proposal.
When
you
first
hear
it.
What
do
that
mean?
I
heard
somebody
saying
that
the
revolution
ain't
been
televised.
I
know
it
happened.
Why
was
that
televised?
AP
Just
like
the
development
they
weren't
doing
covet
and
so
did
the
Bus
Revolution,
not
when
everybody
was
viable
moving
around
whatever
things
were
being
done,
and
then
we
have
to
find
out
later,
I
want
to
give
credit
to
miss
queen
Judith
Robinson
who's
been
on
this
from
the
very
beginning,
has
been
informing
the
residence
of
mansion
and
on
Philadelphia,
and
we
will
not
go
anywhere
just
as
we
told
I
had
said,
with
the
room
49
that
if
y'all
feel
as
though
it
can't
come.
Imagine
then
we'll
stop
it
at
33rd
and
popular
y'all.
AP
B
AQ
I
live
in
society,
Health,
Towers
and
basically
I'm
concerned
about
the
Route
12
and
also
the
42.,
basically
we'll
start
with
Route
12
First.
It
seems
to
me
that
12
bucks
ends
up
at
Columbus.
Boulevard
stops
and
docks
down
there
on
Dock
Street
it
wraps
around.
Now
it
comes
around
two
Second
and
Spruce.
AQ
That,
basically,
would
be
the
first
stop
I
believe
that
is
going
to
terminate
I'm,
not
a
hundred
percent
sure,
because
I
didn't
get
too
much
information
between
the
42
route
and
the
12,
which
both
run
there
now
Society
Hill
Towers
has
30
stories
apartment
buildings,
three
buildings:
they
are
currently
building
a
high-rise,
28
stories
which
Mr
squilla
knows
and
I.
Thank
him
for
participating
in
all
else.
Council
members,
that's
going
to
be
an
apartment
building
too
now.
My
concern
is
the
42
travels
along
there.
Spruce
Street
turns
and
goes
along
Walnut.
AQ
AQ
The
towers
has
children,
doctors,
nurses,
okay,
people
like
me
that
are
senior
citizens,
people
that
just
have
to
get
to
work
in
Center,
City
and
all
the
Pen
Center
buildings
and
to
eliminate
this
bus
stopped
here
at
Second
and
Spruce
is
totally
crazy.
I
believe
I
have
to
use
that
word.
We
have
to
go
five
blocks
to
get
to
our
first
Supermarket.
AQ
Hospital
and
also
Out
West
Philly
to
the
hospitals
out
there
Perlman
building,
which
I
have
to
go
to
and
many
residents.
That's
all
I
had
to
say
is
I
can't
understand
why
they
would
stop
or
eliminate
these
two
Roots
the
42
when
this
is
where
they
start
at
the
end
of
the
line,
and
they
go
all
the
way
out
and
your
previous
lady.
She
spoke
about
Herrin
and
what's
Philly
about
the
12,
so
that's
all
I
have
to
say
I'm
just
here,
you
know
voice
in
my
opinion,
for
all
the
residents
in
Society
Hill.
J
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
for
25
of
the
45
years
that
I
worked
for
New
Jersey
state
government
in
Trenton
I
started
my
trip
in
various
places
in
Philadelphia
and
the
suburbs.
My
wife
worked
in
Philadelphia
for
all
that
time.
So
I
was
the
one
who
commuted
my
last
leg
was
either
on
the
Trenton
Regional
Rail
line
or
after
the
tunnel
was
built.
J
The
west
Trenton
Regional
Rail
line,
but
I
began
my
commute
starting
in
1975
first
from
Queen
Lanes,
Regional
Rail,
then
the
Ardmore
Regional
Rail
than
the
Penfield
Route
100
trolley
and
then
finally,
the
44
bus
Which
stops
literally
at
my
doorstep.
For
my
walkway
to
the
doorstep,
then
I
was
always
very
happy
to
say
that
from
my
doorstep,
I
could
step
on
a
bus
and
go
anywhere
in
the
world
by
going
first
to
30th,
Street
and
then
taking
a
train
to
the
airport.
J
I
have
44
is
my
specific
commute,
I
retired
in
2020
and
because
about
three
months
after
the
pandemic
and
because
of
the
pandemic,
I
has
barely
used.
Septa
I
have
driven
almost
anywhere
and
by
the
way
in
that
commuting
history.
My
wife
used
the
44
to
commute
to
a
job
in
Center
City
for
part
of
her
career,
so
my
concerns
are
the
44
is
now
route
555
as
I
understand
it
and
the
main
difference.
J
J
Although
it's
a
little
difficult
to
understand,
my
main
question
is
because
the
expressway
is
no
longer
going
to
be
used
and
city
streets
are
how
much
additional
time
will
be
added
to
what
used
to
be
the
44
trip
into
town,
and
now
is
the
55
555
I
also
want
to
know.
If
there's
any
transfers
to
another
vehicle
involved
in
getting
let's
say
the
30th
Street
I
see
the
printout
of
the
frequency
of
trip,
so
I
won't
take
up
your
time.
J
J
AR
I
know
this
is
a
big
change
coming
to
the
city
and
I'm
glad
to
see
that
my
councilman
has
taken
the
lead
in
helping
to
steer
the
city
into
the
into
a
future
after
we've
just
had
such
a
shaky
recent
recent
past.
So
thank
you
for
that.
I
wasn't
going
to
talk
to
it,
but
I
will
quickly
State.
Since
so
many
people
have
had
like
a
negative
experience
with
SEPTA
Outreach
process.
I
have
had
the
opposite
experience.
AR
I
found
the
online
Outreach
and
on
online
meetings
to
be
very
convenient,
I
have
new
younger,
so
I
can
navigate
this
technical
issues.
That
SEPTA
does
online
process
is
a
lot
easier.
I
guess
than
the
other
citizens
can
so
I
will
just
quickly
state
that
my
concern
primarily
is
related
to
actually
city
council
in
this
process,
which
is
that
we've
we've
been
talking
a
lot
today
about
this
boss.
Reliability
well
part
of
that
reliability
really
Falls
more
on
Council
than
what
steps
it
can
do,
steps
it
can't
change.
AR
Street
layouts,
except
you
can't
do
parking
enforcement.
All
they
can
do
is
operate
the
buses
as
best
as
they
can,
and
those
are
issues
that
fall
specifically
to
city
council
to
to
regulate.
And
if
we
were
going
to
be
honest
about
it,
we
have
to
face
the
fact
that
we're
going
to
have
to
start
getting
better
about
parking
enforcement.
More
and
more
people
have
bought
cars
as
more
people
have
moved
into
the
city,
which
is
a
good
thing
that
people
are
moving
in.
AR
But
when
cars
park
illegally
in
intersections,
the
buses
can't
make
turns
I
can't
count.
The
number
of
times
I've
been
on
a
bus
that
literally
stops
in
the
middle
of
its
route,
because
someone
parked
in
the
middle
of
the
intersection
are
parked
in
the
middle
of
the
street,
and
you
know
everyone
says:
there's
just
going
to
be
a
minute,
but
that's
not
real.
It's
like
10
minutes
for
whatever
they're
doing,
if
not
longer,
or
they
just
straight
apart
and
walked
away,
especially
in
in
Center
City
I've.
AR
If
you
park
in
the
middle
of
an
intersection
or
you
block
a
crosswalk
and
hinder
people
with
disability
issues
from
using
the
curb
cuts
to
get
through
the
street,
your
car
gets
towed
on
the
spot,
like
there's
no
waiting
for
a
ticket
to
get
issued
from
a
policeman
to
come
and
ticket
your
car
first
and
then
wait
for
a
tow
truck.
They
just
take
your
car
right
there
and
you
can
go
find
it
at
the
pound.
AR
AR
If
we
want
SEPTA
specifically,
has
stated
multiple
times
that
they're
screening
the
lines,
because
the
buses
get
stuck
doing
turns
if
we
don't
want,
except
if
the
general
consent
is
from
from
Resident
citizens,
is
that
these
new
lines
don't
best
serve
the
community
and
we
need
more
turns
in
lines
than
we
need
to
get
real
about.
Why
SEPTA
doesn't
want
to
do
that,
because
that
falls
on
city
council.
AR
The
other
thing
that
I
would
like
city,
council
and
I
know
it's
the
third
rail
of
Philly
politics,
which
is
parking
enforcement
and
permits
and
permanent
parking,
but
we
just
have
to
get
real
about
it.
So
I
do
thank
Council
for
the
time
and
for
take
letting
me
give
my
input
in
and
I
would
hope
that
going
forward.
That
is
part
of
the
the
conversation.
AS
AS
Taking
interest
and
improving
the
streets
of
service
I
have
some
prepared
comments
that
I
find
out
the
two
minutes
and
I'll
send
the
rest
via
email,
so
I
have
serious
concerns
with
bus,
revolutions,
Outreach
and
feedback
process.
The
online
process
was
fine,
except
I,
never
got
confirmation,
emails
and
I
sent
feedback
online.
That
said,
it's
pretty
clear.
The
in-person
component
was
incompetent.
AS
Having
said
all
that
the
general
design
is
a
dramatic
Improvement
on
the
current
service,
the
city
should
facilitate
its
quick
implementation
rather
than
delay
it
and
cooperations
that
the
exhibit
leadership
here
and
set
a
firm
deadline
for
launching
the
redesigned
in
2023
and
then
make
continuous
changes
with
a
much
better
engagement
process,
don't
endlessly
pump
the
football.
It's
quote.
Design
is
totally
unacceptable
and
it
needs
a
change.
Now.
AS
The
two
main
comments
directed
at
city
council.
The
first
facility
must
establish
physically
separated
busways.
The
current
faded
bus
lines
are
completely
inadequate.
The
routinely
blocked
by
cars
and
those
Fabrics
face
no
consequences
but
are
separated
by
Ballers
or
cement.
Planters
could
run
east
west
on
Chestnut,
Walnut,
Spring,
Garden
and
Washington,
as
well
as
on
the
north-south
routes.
Like
52nd
20th,
19th,
8th
and
7th,
please
aggressively
ticket
and
tow
cars
that
block
these.
AS
Lanes,
the
large
bombarding
Pine
streets-
this
can
be
accomplished
with
prioritizing
the
construction
of
bus,
shelters
and
physically
protected
bike
Lanes.
This
would
help
reduce
conflict
between
car
foot.
Like
two
comments
would
require
removing
some
on-street
parking,
but
let's,
let's
get
real,
as
the
previous
person
said
for
justice.
Presidents,
the
public
on-street
parking
over
public
transportation
and
non-car
traffic
is
a
progressive
tax,
a
disproportionately
benefit
s
Council,
to
the
extent
of
everyone
drive
everywhere
due
to
financial
circumstances
or
physical
limitations.
AT
AS
H
AU
N
AV
This
would
be
very
rough
on
the
residents
here,
as
there
are
a
lot
of
seniors
and
disabled
people
in
the
area
and
the
closest
stops
other
stops
are
farther
away,
they're
poorly
lit
in
their
new
benches,
making
them
unsafe.
So
please
keep
the
second
men's
roof
stop
for
the
42
and
12
buses.
Thank
you.
J
Yes,
I'm
ready,
can
you
hear
me
Carl?
My
name
is
Carl
rich
I
know,
I
have
two
minutes
so
I
just
want
to
say:
city
council,
chairman
transport
committee,
thanks
for
your
job.
Well
done.
Secondly,
I
want
to
say
councilman
Jones,
you
said
a
mouthful
and
of
course
everybody
on
the
committee
has
contributed
tremendously.
J
It's
an
experience
today,
but
someone
earlier
stole
the
wall.
My
thunder
SEPTA
NASA
will
discontinue
the
number
12
bus
route
reroute,
the
42,
which
will
no
longer
stop
at
2nd
and
Spruce
Street.
Well,
I.
Think
it's
the
service
to
the
community
and
a
blatant
mistake.
I'm
a
commuter
I
live
in
society,
Hills
I
go
up
to
18th,
Street
I
usually
came
when
I
go
to
work
and
I
find
that
this
is
certainly
a
wonderful
service
and
I.
J
Take
my
hat
off
to
the
all
the
men
and
women
that
every
day
bring
this
viable
service
of
importance
to
the
Community
Transportation
Community.
Unfortunately,
it's
all
about
money
and
funding,
and
that
being
said,
I
don't
have
much
else
to
say,
but
I
only
hope
and
pray
that
everything
being
said,
everybody
gets
satisfied
the
right
way
again.
Thank
you
end
of
story.
AW
Cancel
this
is
Susan
Thomas.
Thank
you,
Council
for
providing
this
opportunity.
I'm
a
lifelong
SEPTA
user
I
still
remember
when
it
was
PTC.
I
currently
live
in
Fairmount
and
we
are
concerned
about
single
bus,
ridership,
the
49
and
the
32
are
slated
to
be
removed
and
every
time
I
am
on
these
buses.
There
are
loads
of
people.
There
are
tons
of
workers
who
live
in
Fairmount
and
above
here
in
Strawberry,
Mansion
North
Philly,
who
depend
on
the
49
to
get
to
work
out
in
West
Philly.
AW
AW
AW
O
Hello
I
want
to
thank
you,
Mr
chairman
and
the
other
participants
for
your
stamina
and
dedication
in
holding
this
hearing
and
in
general
I
appreciate,
SEPTA's
re-examination
of
bus
routes,
providing
more
rapid
service
and
especially
getting
away
from
probably
what
is
an
outmoded
pattern
of
nine
to
five
Monday
through
Friday
service
I
understand
I
have
two
minutes
to
speak
now.
For
example,
if
I
were
to
speak
for
a
half
hour,
I
would
be
stealing
time
from
other
people.
O
Yet
this
is
exactly
what
vehicles
are
doing
when
they
block
bus
stops
when
they
block
bus
lanes
bus
turns
or
when
they
double
Park
I've,
seen
traffic
slowed
and
even
stopped
for
10
or
15
minutes
due
to
such
behavior
in
Central
City.
So
I
am
an
advocate
for
exclusive
bus
lanes
and
vigorous
enforcement
to
ensure
traffic
flow
I
think
vigorous
enforcement
is
going
to
take
the
cooperation
of
not
only
the
parking
authority
inceptive,
but
also
the
police
department.
O
O
Hello,
I
believe
that
we
need
to
set
priorities
in
the
face
of
traffic
congestion
and
bus
service
should
be
our
top
priority.
I
have
lived,
I
also
I've
heard
discussion
about
the
33
and
17
buses.
I
think
these
are
valuable
routes
in
so
far
as
they
enable
people
to
take
a
one-seat
ride
into
Central
City,
so
I
hope
we
will
be
very
careful
about
about
adjusting
these
roots.
O
Lastly,
I'm
most
familiar
with
Center
City
I've
lived
here
for
36
years
without
a
car
and
I
am
76
years
old
aside
from
pedestrian
safety,
which
is
another
question
which
this
hearing
doesn't
can't
address.
I
think
that
set
being
able
to
ride
SEPTA
as
an
alternative
is
essential
to
our
Mobility.
Thank
you
very
much.
AX
AX
You've
already
heard
from
a
couple
of
our
residents,
so
my
comments
are
going
to
be
brief,
because
I
want
to
reiterate
some
of
the
concerns
that
they
already
expressed
at
Society
Hill
Towers.
We
have
several
hundred
residents,
many
of
whom
are
senior
citizens
as
Am
I,
who
rely
heavily
on
bus
service.
We
are
very
concerned
that
if
the
current
plan
becomes
reality,
we
are
slated
to
lose
two
bus
lines:
the
12
and
the
42
that
now
stop
close
by.
AX
In
order
to
get
to
Center,
City
or
West
Philadelphia,
we
will
have
to
rely
on
either
the
21
bus
or
the
40,
both
of
which
stop
further
away.
Now,
that
may
seem
like
a
small
inconvenience
but
for
senior
citizens
and
others
with
mobility
issues
having
to
walk
an
additional
couple
of
blocks
is
actually
a
big
deal,
especially
in
bad
weather.
AX
Additionally,
I
just
want
to
note
that
we
recently
lost
a
bus
shelter
at
one
of
these
nearby
stops
and
I
want
to
urge
you
to
restore
that
shelter
or,
if
you
actually
move
ahead
to
cut
both
the
12
and
the
42
and
force
everyone
to
use
the
21
or
the
40
that
you
at
least
build
a
couple
of
bus
shelters
at
those
stops
where
we
will
have
to
a
lot
of
us
are
going
to
have
to
wait
for
the
bus.
Thank.
AA
AU
Everybody
knows
that
the
pandemic
affected
ridership
and
but
it
is
said,
oh,
it
was
going
down
anyway
before
the
pandemic,
but
look
how
it
shot
up
again
and
as
soon
as
we're
back
on
our
feet
thoroughly,
which
we
hope
will
happen
soon.
The
ridership
should
go
up
with
promotion
and
education
and
communication.
So
people
understand
that
the
impact
of
cars
more
cars
in
the
street,
even
if
you
don't
have
a
car,
you
want
to
take
an
Uber.
AU
Well,
not
all
of
us
can
afford
to
do
that,
and
nor
does
it
help
the
traffic
situation
which
snarls
up
buses
I've,
seen
a
lot
of
buses
stuck
behind
five
or
six
I,
don't
mean
to
single
out
Uber,
but
that
kind
of
Transportation
does
not
help.
If
you
have
to
use
it,
you
do
but
I'm
76
and
a
half
years
old,
I've
lived
in
the
area,
lived
and
worked
in
the
area
for
almost
40
years,
my
husband
and
I,
and
we
are
totally
dependent
upon
the
buses.
AU
We
can't
hop
off
a
bus.
You
know
the
free
transfer
idea
is
great,
except
if
you
have
to
hop
off
a
bus
and
then
go
down
a
set
of
30
steps
to
get
onto
a
Subway
that
just
doesn't
happen
for
us.
We
can't
do
it
a
single
bus
route
that
traverses
the
city
and
people
are
talking
about
circuitous
patterns.
You
need
circles
around
hospitals
and
schools
and
so
forth,
and
so
on.
AU
So
the
Route
12
and
the
Route
42
Traverse
the
entire
downtown
almost
and
then
they
get
all
the
way
to
South,
Southwest
Philadelphia
and
back
to
the
Delaware
River
area,
where
a
lot
of
development
has
been
allowed
and
promoted
and
more
to
come.
So
how
can
you
be
promoting
development
and
it's
good
to
have
residents
in
the
city?
Residents
keep
the
city
alive,
but
how
can
you
be
promoting
more
development
and
not
taking
care
of
the
public
transportation
situation
and
even
eliminating
the
requirements
for
parking
in
some
of
these
developments?
AY
For
25
years
about
half
in
the
suburbs,
half
in
the
city,
I've
heard
written
buses
all
over,
including
in
many
of
the
Cities
discussed
today
in
this
hearing,
scepter
continued
to
defend
prior
decisions,
including
over-reliance
on
surveys
for
public
input
outside
Consultants
and
what
works
in
other
cities,
even
though
SEPTA
recognized
public
opposition,
significant
changes
in
this
revision
will
require
changes
to
be
made
in
the
planning
process.
Incept
is
underlying
positions
about
what's
needed
to
be
done
as
well
as
who
they
serve
well.
They
said
that
increasing
ridership
is
imperative.
AY
Making
changes
based
on
surveys
in
other
cities
probably
will
not
increase
current
ridership
components
of
the
current
plan
today
claim
that
people
who
opposed
it
didn't
recognize
for
any
changes
the
need
for
any
changes,
but
that's
not
true.
Some
changes
will
be
accepted
by
the
public
and
stay
others.
Won't
it's
unproductive
to
consider
only
an
All
or
Nothing
result
and
I.
Don't
think
this
represents
the
views
of
people
opposed
to
the
current
plan.
AY
N
AY
City,
ensuring
schools
service
for
schools,
providing
service
for
less
than
able
people
and
providing
24-hour
service
to
medical
centers.
One
bus
routes
in
the
city
limits
may
be
old,
but
they
are
not
outdated.
They
are
the
backbone
of
the
bus
transportation
in
the
city
for
thousands
of
people
and
are
one
of
the
best
ways
except
to
compare
to
places
like
Phoenix
if
they
eliminated.
AY
If
the
L-shaped
roofs
were
eliminated
completely
and
transfers
are
mandated,
bus
ridership
will
fall
in
the
city,
even
among
those
who
currently
rely
on
the
buses.
The
plan
seems
to
assume
that
these
writers
will
never
stop
writing,
no
matter
how
they
are
treated
I.
Don't
think
this
is
purposeful,
but
it
is
still
bothersome.
AY
AY
I'm
concerned
the
SEPTA
is
still
planning
to
develop
a
revision
and
then
go
out
to
the
public
for
additional
comment.
This
is
inefficient
and
continues
to
relegate
the
general
public
to
only
a
reactive
role
rather
than
one,
including
them
in
the
planning
process.
So
their
insights
are
included
from
the
start.
AY
Synthetis
still
espoused
their
beliefs
that
all
one
bus
routes
are
bad,
that
the
speed
of
bus
travels
is
most
important.
Well,
not
mentioning
the
importance
of
current
writers
being
able
to
easily
and
safely
reach
their
destination.
It
is
important
for
the
public
to
be
proactively
included
in
the
entire
planning
process.
The
plan
will
be
better.
It
will
be
better
able
to
serve
both
sepsis
needs
and
writers
needs,
and
the
public
will
be
happier.
AY
Also
indicated
that
they
were
going
to
collaborate
with
elected
officials
for
outreach
and
communication,
that's
good
and
should
be
done,
but
SEPTA
also
needs
to
directly
engage
with
the
general
public
businesses
and
Civic
leaders
and
not
rely
on
other
officials
and
their
staffs
Community
organizations
or
Word
of
Mouth,
yes
for
communication
and
input,
I'm
asking
SEPTA
to
add
a
bilingual
team,
directly
responsible
for
only
public
Outreach
and
communication
and
arranging
for
continued
public
involvement
during
the
revision.
Thank
you.
M
M
I
saw
that
the
42
and
the
40
will
be
Consolidated
and
the
12
eliminated
the
12
and
the
42
provide
really
important
access
to
the
society.
Health
medical
facilities
such
as
Jefferson
and
Walnut
Street,
the
40,
really
can't
serve
that
purpose.
Lumber
Street
is
too
far
away
for
individuals
with
limited
Mobility
to
walk
down
to
Walnut
Street.
The
sidewalks
are
uneven
and
often
blocked
by
construction
and
other
obstacles.
M
M
The
evening
they're
often
passing
Hospital
workers,
like
me,
after
the
other,
as
other
citizens
have
noted,
Society
Hills
are
very
densely
populated
residential
area.
The
streets
are
crowded,
narrow
and
tight.
The
ability
is
the
ability,
the
availability
of
these
three
bus
routes,
40
42
and
12.
So
it's
also
the
unique
purposes
and
a
lot
of
people
like
me
to
go
to
work
on
errands
and
attend
doctors,
appointments
usually
affordabling
without
increasing
car
traffic.
M
AZ
Name
is
Louis
Bartholomew
and
I
am
a
regular
user
of
the
9
and
21
buses.
I
work
in
Center,
City
and
I
go
back
and
forth
across
their
City
during
the
day,
mainly
by
bus
or
bike,
but
on
non-rainy
days,
I
choose
to
bike
to
and
from
my
job
just
because
the
buses
are
mired
in
traffic
littered
with
personal
vehicles.
AZ
So
I
I
love
this
issue
every
day
and
I
see
how
bad
it
is
traffic
at
all
times
during
the
day
in
Center,
City
I'm,
a
strong
supporter
of
SEPTA's
Bus,
Revolution
and
I
urge
city
council
to
please
allow
SEPTA
to
do
their
work
and
make
bus
routes
more
frequent
and
create
a
stronger
Network.
These
system
changes
are
necessary
to
keep
public
transit
stronger,
including
lower
waiting
times
for
consumers.
AZ
Just
like
New
York
City,
does
you
have
the
powers
Council
to
make
drastic
improvements
in
the
Philly
public
transit
system
and
I
urge
Council
again
to
please
make
this
a
priority
rather
than
catering
solely
to
motorists,
since
many
of
them
are
are
already
admiring.
The
the
Streets
of
Philadelphia
and
keeping
keeping
our
streets
too
busy
buses
are
one
of
the
most
frequent
and
easy
ways
to
get
around
if
we
allow
them
to
do
that
job
and
carry
as
many
people
as
possible.
Thank
you
very
much.
AH
My
name
is
Nancy
Steele
and
I
live
in
Fiddler
Square.
Thank
you
for
hearing
me.
My
concern
is
walkability
and
the
ultimate
efficiency
of
the
roots,
increasing
the
frequency
of
stops
that
are
farther
away
from
my
departure
or
destination,
is
not
an
improvement.
Specifically
I
would
like
to
speak
in
defense
of
route.
12.
Route
12
brings
a
significant
number
of
residents
from
Center
City
West
to
within
a
block
of
Jefferson
Hospital
Wills
Eye,
Pennsylvania
Hospital,
the
Kimmel
Center
and
a
host
of
other
important
medical
and
cultural
destinations
and
Beyond
Eastern.
AH
Market
elimination
of
this
route
would
represent
a
major
loss
of
service,
especially
for
Center
cities
elder
or
less
able,
residents
residents
who
are
ill,
disabled
or
elderly.
The
necessity
to
get
to
navigate
even
a
few
more
blocks
to
another
boot
on
foot
would
represent
a
major
obstacle
and
a
serious
risk
to
health
and
safety,
especially
when
our
uneven
city
sidewalks
are
wetter.
Icy
I
would
much
much
rather
wait
a
few
minutes
for
a
number
12
than
make
my
way
to
another.
AH
Stop
several
blocks
away
to
catch
another
bus
that
would
drop
me
several
blocks
farther
from
my
destination
than
the
number
12.
eliminating
the
12
would
also
probably
mean
a
shorter
weight,
but
a
longer
bus
ride
for
many
riders.
The
number
12
across
this
town,
much
more
quickly
than
the
42,
for
example,
I
hope
you
can
consider
maintaining
Route
12,
which
has
served
my
neighbors
and
my
res
my
neighbors
and
I
very
well,
since
it
was
called
the
route
90..
Thank
you
again
for
hearing
me.
BA
BA
I
found
the
hearing
today
to
be
very
informative
and
I
will
be
saddened
with
my
bus.
Stop,
which
is
much
used,
is
no
longer
available.
If
it
ain't
broke,
don't
print
it
and
then
I
have
a
question,
and
the
question
is
have
recently
heard
that
they
are
discussing
in
Washington
DC,
making
the
entire
bus
service
stream.
BB
B
BC
BB
BB
BB
BB
A
B
AG
AX
A
AX
AX
Today's
testimony
will
be
a
little
more
anecdotal
as
I'm
not
and
privy
to
sepsis,
ridership
data
or
budget,
but
Route
12
is
apparently
up
for
termination.
This
is
a
critical
route
to
transport
people
from
Southwest,
Philadelphia,
Grays,
Ferry,
Old,
City,
Society,
Hill,
Center,
City
to
Pennsylvania,
Hospital,
Jefferson
hospital
and
all
the
clinicians
surrounding
them.
Route
12
in
Center,
City,
traverses,
Locust,
Street
rights
with
residential
buildings,
and
it
makes
a
right
turn
on
8th
Street,
where
passengers
can
disembark
at
8th
and
Spruce,
virtually
at
Pennsylvania
Hospital's
front
door.
AX
The
bus
continues
down
Pine
Street
to
pick
up
riders
in
Old,
City
and
Society
Hill,
and
some
from
Queen
Village,
bringing
them
up:
Walnut
Street
to
access
Jefferson,
Wills,
Eye
Hospital
and
the
large
University
of
Pennsylvania
Medical
Building.
Among
others.
Many
of
Route
12's
passengers
are
elderly.
They
are
unable
to
walk
to
Chestnut
Street.
To
get
an
Eastbound
bus
then
walk
as
far
back
as
to
Spruce
or
pine
to
a
physician's
appointment
or
a
procedure.
They
also
do
not
have
the
means
to
take
cabs
or
Uber,
particularly
because
many
of
their
appointments
are
frequent.
AX
I
always
say,
never
present
a
problem
without
some
possible
solutions.
So
here's
some
thoughts.
One.
This
morning,
SEPTA
mentioned
that
the
frequency
was
an
issue.
Route
12
riders
need
a
reliable
schedule
around
which
they
can
plan
their
medical
visits.
Frequency
is,
it
would
be
great,
but
they
just
need
the
bus
two.
You
want
to
increase
weekend
service,
except
it
does
most
people
don't
see
clinicians
on
weekends.
So
that's
not
a
factor.
Route
12
could
be
curtailed
on
weekends
and
three.
They
want
to
eliminate
redundancy.
AX
Well,
several
other
routes
move
west
along
Walnut
Street,
so
maybe
on
the
way
back,
I
would
pose
that
the
12
bus
would
continue
West
on
Spruce
Street,
rather
than
turning
from
Spruce
on
7th
to
Walnut,
and
that
would
actually
be
more
advantageous
for
Route
12
Riders,
for
if
ridership
is
low
on
Route
12
concept
to
be
creative
and
use
a
smaller
vehicle
rather
than
a
full-size
bus.
Please
find
a
way
to
keep
Route
12
going
it's
essential
and
eliminating.
AX
AX
It's
a
huge
route
that
Services
children's
hospital
and
the
Pearlman
Center
and
I.
That's
a
bus
that
I
take
often
it's
always
crowded,
and
maybe
the
people
who
are
making
these
decisions
should
take
a
ride
and
see
how
many
kids
are
on
there.
But
it
appears
that
the
that
cutting
off
these
two
Roots
really
negates
any
kind
of
concern
for
health
care.
So
thanks
for
listening
to
me
and
that's
all.
AJ
Chairman
Johnson
co-chairman
squilla,
thank
you,
I'm
David
Haas,
a
board
member
of
the
Society
Hill
civic
association
or
scha,
representing
the
4
000
residents
in
Society
Hill,
including
1100
paid
members.
We
live
south
of
Walnut
north
of
South
Street
and
from
the
Delaware
River
to
8th
Street
and
council
member
squillis
district
I'm.
Here,
along
with
many
of
our
residents,
who've
testified
already
to
address
SEPTA's
plan
to
eliminate
the
number
12
bus
from
Columbus
Boulevard
to
50th
Street
and
eliminate
stops
for
the
number
42
bus,
which
runs
from
Penn's
Landing
to
Wycombe.
AJ
The
proposed
changes
put
our
residents
at
a
substantial
disadvantage:
the
elimination,
the
elimination
of
Bus
Route
12,
will
overcrowd
the
number
42
line,
which
often
fills
to
capacity
by
10th
and
Walnut
Streets,
to
which
I
can
personally
testify.
The
second
concern
is
the
proposed
elimination
of
bus
service
in
Society
Hill.
Only
the
number
40
bus
along
Pine
and
Lombard
streets
will
remain
in
our
community.
AJ
Buses
will
no
longer
pass
near
our
only
full-service
grocery
store
and
the
CVS
Pharmacy
on
5th
Street.
40
percent
of
societal
homeowners
are
over
the
age
of
55
many
with
limited
Mobility.
As
you've
heard.
Many
of
my
neighbors
cannot
walk
the
additional
two
blocks
required
to
reach
the
new
number
42
bus
stop
at
third
and
walnut
we'd
prefer
not
to
have
these
current
Riders
choose
to
congest
our
streets
with
more
private
vehicles
and
more
significant
significantly.
The
elimination
of
the
bus
stops
at
Second
and
Spruce
and
dock
streets
will
move
us.
AJ
It
simply
makes
no
sense
to
reduce
bus
service
to
areas
that
have
been
approved
by
the
city
for
new
development.
Resident
and
visitor
density
will
soon
justify
more
bus
service
and
SEPTA
appears
not
to
be
planning
for
this
Society
Hill
civic
association
supports
keeping
the
successful
number
12
and
number
42
routes,
as
is
personally
I'd
like
to
thank
the
committee
for
its
attention
to
bus
and
bicycle
Transportation.
AJ
L
All
right,
thank
you.
My
name
is
Michael
NoDa
and
I
would
like
to
thank
Council
for
his
attention
to
the
Bus
Revolution.
To
paraphrase
chairman
Richards
from
earlier
and
I'll
be
doing
that
a
few
times.
The
best
time
for
Council
to
have
gotten
involved
on
this
level
would
have
been
close
to
two
years
ago
when
Bus
Revolution
process
started,
but
the
second
best
time
is
now.
So.
Thank
you
very
much
for
that.
L
As
has
been
mentioned
SEPTA,
this
is
SEPTA's
first
full
redesign
of
its
bus
Network,
since
its
Creation
in
1964.
and
in
addition
to
never
having
redesigned
its
bus
Network.
In
that
time,
SEPTA
has
always
suffered
from
the
neglect
of
city
and
state
governments.
From
that
time.
Until
now
it's
been
it's
been
better
and
it's
been
worse
and
I.
Don't
need
to
single
out
the
wonderful
elected
officials
who
are
attending
this
hearing.
L
AG
L
I'm
going
to
skip
over
some
things
that
have
already
been
touched
on
by
other
people
and
just
would
like
to
close
with
a
reminder
that
going
to
hear
a
lot
from
people
who
have
very
specific
concerns
today.
Please,
as
and
I,
don't
mean
to
minimize
that
you
know
you
know.
Change
can
be
very
disruptive,
there's
two
things
that
any
Philadelphian
despises.
Above
all
else,
it's
change
and
the
way
things
are
right
now
and
the
Dallas
Cowboys
kind
of
distant
third
to
those
two
things.
L
But
people
who
have
looked
at
the
plans
and
have
been
in
the
consultation
process
for
Bus
Revolution
over
the
last
two
years,
who
are
happy
with
what
is
going
to
happen
to
their
bus,
has
worked.
You
know
going
to
have
better
frequency
who
are
going
to
have
a
more
convenient
ride,
they're
not
going
to
sit
through
what
is
now
coming
up
on
a
five
hour
hearing
to
Express
their
pleasure
with
the
process.
L
BD
Yes,
good
afternoon,
Mr,
chairman
and
members
of
the
committee
scepter
as
non-uh.
Look,
if
you
will
for
over
60
years,
demonstrates
how
much
that
they
don't
value
their
customers
and
hopefully
that
will
change.
I,
have
written
and
continue
to
ride
the
number
23
bus,
the
number
44
bus
and
the
number
18
bus,
and
no
one
knows
when
the
bus
will
show
up.
BD
BD
The
other
thing
I
would
say,
Mr
chairman,
is
that
they
don't
need.
Septa
does
not
need
to
be
top
down,
as
it
has
been
and
hire
consultants-
and
this
has
been
said
before,
but
it
Bears
repeating,
we
have
writers,
they
want
to
find
out.
What's
going
on,
go
to
the
churches,
go
to
the
houses
of
worship
go
to
where
the
people
are
don't
hire
Consultants,
because
we
can
speak
for
ourselves
and
we
don't
need
somebody
to
tell
us
how
and
when
and
where
to
speak,
come
to
us
and
show
us
good
faith.
BD
The
second
reason
you
don't
need
consultants
and
I
just
want
to
say
this.
I
have
worked
all
over
the
world
and
I
have
used
Consultants,
sometimes,
but
most
of
the
time
when
I'm
hired
I
just
fire
them,
because
the
other
thing
you
need
to
do
is
you
need
to
speak
to
you
to
your
bus
operators,
because
they
know
the
people
that
they
are
ferrying
on
every
route
and
every
trip
they
make.
Thank
you,
Mr,
chairman
for
the
opportunity
and
I
wish
you
all
a
very
good
afternoon.
AK
BE
Until
just
before
this
hearing
so
and
I
am
a
fourth
generation.
Philadelphia
raise
the
fifth
my
family's
been
in
this
city.
Since
the
late
1800s
early
1900s
I
have
experienced
SEPTA
in
every
phase
of
My
Life
as
a
young
child,
whose
mother
was
a
teacher
took
me
and
my
siblings,
by
the
hand,
to
catch
SEPTA
for
piano,
lessons
and
dance
lessons
at
settlement,
News,
school,
Fifth
and
Christian,
and
also
up
in
Germantown.
BE
We
were
happy
when
she
learned
how
to
drive
that
was
not
fun
and
I
want
to
place
this
in
a
category
of
I
was
going
to
approach
this
hearing,
One
Way
prior
to
being
with
you
all
day
and
hearing
all
this
testimony
and
people
who
know
me
know
that
I
am
good
for
listening
evaluating
and
then
providing
some
solutions,
and
so
I've
taken
the
liberty
of
kind
of
counting
what
it
is
I'm
going
to
say
within
the
context
of
writing.
Septa
is
just
not
fun,
so
I
think.
BE
A
lot
of
what
we
have
going
on
here
is
attitudinal.
It
was
already
added
to
attitudinal
prior
to
covid-19
and
after
covid-19
after
we've
watched
so
many
of
our
family
and
loved
ones
and
Friends
passed
away,
they're
no
longer
with
us
other
kinds
of
social
ills
that
have
increased
in
our
communities.
It
just
has
become
even
less
fun
when
you
get
in
your
car.
What's
the
first
thing
you
do
you
turn
on
the
radio
you
turn
on.
BE
You
do
some
things
you
make
adjustments
to
make
things
very,
very
comfortable
and
convenient
for
you,
so
as
a
young
child.
What
I
remember
from
writing?
Scepter
it
just
was
not
fun,
especially
in
inclement
weather,
as
a
school
student
taking
SEPTA
to
Arden
Reed
Junior
High
School
at
that
time,
in
South
Philadelphia,
High
School
running
for
the
bus
in
the
morning,
because
you
know
it
was
not
fun
and
again,
especially
inclement
weather.
BE
BE
Now,
the
further
on
in
my
college
career
when
I
became
I
was
an
intern,
and
you
know
my
father
was
an
electrician
for
the
railroad,
so
I
rode
the
regional
rail
for
free
so
visiting
my
friends
and
Jersey
and
Dublin.
Now
that
was
fun
that
was
closer
to
being
fun
and
I.
Remember
when
SEPTA
took
over
the
regional
rail
in
1983
I,
remember
that
distinctly
and
but
then
as
a
as
a
mom.
BE
BE
But
you
know
like
with
all
this
gentrification
and
changes
in
Philadelphia
Parking.
You
can't
get
out
of
Center
City
without
paying
25
and
30
dollars
a
day
and
I
refuse
to
do
that.
I've
also
had
the
experience
of
going
to
visit
friends
up
near
Cheltenham
and
getting
off
of
the
transportation
center
and
they're
there
being
dropped
off,
which
seems
like
in
the
middle
of
nowhere
and
having
no
sidewalks
up
there,
no
path
forward
and
having
to
catch
an
Uber
anyway,
just
to
get
over
to
the
house.
BE
So
so
I
know
what
that's
like
I've
had
the
experience
of
being
having
a
bunches,
Pass
Me
By,
while
waiting
for
a
bus
in
Center
City.
Maybe
it
was
because
of
the
looks
of
other
people
who
were
standing
there
with
me,
but
literally
stopping
at
11th
and
Market
or
12th
and
Market,
and
never
opening
up
the
doors
even
after
we
were
knocking
to
try
to
get
on
in
now.
That
was
not
fun
again.
I've
never
heard
of
the
bus
resolution
of
a
revolution.
But
let
me
offer
this
thing
just
a
few.
BE
A
few
little
minor
tweets
that
SEPTA
might
want
to
take
into
consideration
before
going
all
in
number.
One
have
fewer
untracked
buses,
because
I've
had
the
experience
of
waiting
for
a
bus
and
watching
the
app
and
let
me
get
supper.
Let
me
give
you
a
prompts
because
that
GPS
this
is
what
you
all
have
going
on,
has
made
a
world
of
difference.
Okay,
so,
but
you'll
have
buses
that
appear
to
be
approaching
the
stop
they're
they're
on
the
app
and
then
all
of
a
sudden.
BE
You
don't
see
them
they're
nowhere
and
it
just
says
on
track.
What
does
that
mean?
The
driver
didn't
come
to
work
that
day,
mechanical
problems
on
the
bus.
What
does
that
mean
so
having
fewer
untracked
buses,
because
that's
real
that
makes
your
ride
two
and
three
times
longer
number
two
clearly
identify
detours
when
they
happened.
We
were
out,
we
meeting
me
and
some
other
riders
that
I
did
not
know.
BE
Okay,
so
a
clearly
identifying
detours
because
we're
not
always
told
where
the
detours
are
and
when
they're
happening,
letting
us
know
in
the
app
where
the
bus
shelters
are
because
then
you
can
make
the
decision
to
maybe
get
off
the
42
or
22nd
of
water
and
wait
under
that
bus
shelter
during
the
rain,
as
opposed
to
going
to
23rd,
Street
and
standing
in
the
rain
for
20
minutes
until
the
bus
comes.
So
how
can
we
make
Riders
the
ride
more
mutually
beneficial?
How
can
we
make
it
more
engaging?
BE
BE
Lively
announcements,
Shirley
Chisholm
once
said
that
when
you
don't
have
a
seat
at
the
table
and
I
have
not
on
this,
although
it's
been
going
on
for
two
years,
I
understand
you
bring
a
folding
chair,
so
that's
what
I'm
doing
today
bring
my
folding
chair
and,
if
you're
interested
in
really
engaging
Community
residents
who
know
SEPTA,
who
know
Philadelphia,
then
I'm
available
and
I
plan
to
follow
up
this
with
a
written
testimony
because
I
did
carve
it
all
up
in
the
interest
of
time.
Thank
you
again
for
the
opportunity.
A
B
AI
BF
BF
BF
That's
so
critical
for
sick,
sick
people
and
the
other
is
the
12
bus.
Which
serves
it's.
The
12
is
the
only
East-West
bus
between
South,
Street
and
Spruce,
and
that's
a
that's
a
long
period,
a
long,
a
long
stretch
in
there
between
those
two
streets
and
for
those
of
us
who
were
elderly
disabled
for
inclement
weather,
you
know
having
to
walk
two
or
three
blocks
doesn't
make
sense.
The
other
thing
I
I,
strongly
support.
BF
Keeping
the
stop
on
the
42
at
2nd
and
Spruce,
and
the
other
thing
I
would
like
to
say
is
to
support
everyone
who
has
testified
to
the
importance
of
including
the
community
at
all
steps.
Not
just
Consultants
I
went
to.
There
was
an
online
meeting
of
consultants
for
the
center
city
area
and
I
was
shocked.
They
did
not
act
as
if
they
were
for
Philadelphia.
That
did
not
speak
that
way.
BF
AT
The
bus
riding
public
comprises
The
largest
division
of
the
transit
system,
yet
there
has
been
no
massive
effort
on
transit,
to
educate,
elucidate
and
at
the
bare
minimum,
inform
riders
that
historical
changes
are
coming
our
way
in
very
short
order.
I
first
heard
of
the
Bus
Revolution
after
drafts
were
done
and
virtual
meetings
have
been
held.
N
AT
Although
I've
been
on
SEPTA
buses
and
Subways,
there
is
still
I
haven't
seen
any
advertising
of
the
Bus
Revolution
and
through
lack
of
information.
Suscepta
bus
riding
public
will
feel
denied
the
opportunity
to
be
included
in
the
planning
stage
to
be
heard,
informed
and
give
input,
and
now
they
hear
Snippets
of
information
from
others.
Who've
heard
Snippets
and
they
feel
something
is
being
stolen
from
them.
The
bus
transit
system
that
they
know
and
rely
on
and
that
something
unfair
is
being
done
to
them.
AT
BC
BC
Septa
is
for
everybody,
everybody
in
Southeastern
Pennsylvania,
it's
for
people
of
all
ages,
from
young
to
old
and
all
states
of
Life
students,
workers
Homemakers
with
small
children
and
the
retired,
it's
for
the
disabled
and
the
able-bodied
alike,
and
for
all
levels
of
technical
capability
or
lack
thereof.
Any
entity
that
serves
such
a
diverse
clientele
has
a
challenging
task.
No
one
group's
needs
can
be
served
perfectly,
but
SEPTA
must
be
mindful
that
those
who
are
most
likely
to
need
septum
services
are
those
with
the
least
resources
and
the
greatest
needs.
BC
The
article
mentioned
numerous
public
meetings
that
SEPTA
had
already
heard
had
already
taken
place,
I'm
a
daily
and
Sunday
reader
of
the
inquirers
print
edition,
and
not
once
had
I
seen
any
advance
notice
of
those
meetings.
Septa
needs
to
do
much
better,
a
much
better
job
of
soliciting
and
encouraging
public
input.
BC
Finally,
I'd
like
to
say
I've
read
that
many
scepter
writers
say
that
they
would
not
mind
having
to
walk
farther
to
a
bus
stop
if
it
would
result
in
a
shorter
ride.
I
wonder
if
those
Riders
realize
that
the
time
spent
walking
to
and
from
the
bus
stop
is
part
of
their
total
commute
and
that
the
longer
walk
could
result
in
a
commute
that
is
not
only
not
shorter
than
but
even
longer
than
their
present
commute.
Thanks
very
much.
B
Mr,
chair
I
believe
that
was
the
last
individual
that
Council
support
was
able
to
reach.
I
will
say
if
there
were
any
individuals
who
were
called
and
missed
the
call
or
were
pulled
away
due
to
another,
an
issue
coming
up
or
some
sort.
You
can
send
written
testimony
to
be
entered
into
the
record
at
Brett
b-r-e-t-t,
dot,
netalkoff
n-e-d-e-l-k-o-f-f
at
phila.gov.