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Meeting of Council's Committee of the Whole to hear testimony on the following bills/resolutions: Bill Nos. 160170, 160171, and 160172 & Resolution No. 160180 regarding the FY2017 Capital Budget.
Testimony from:
Jane Golden, Executive Director of the City of Philadelphia Mural Arts Program, Joan Reilly, Chief Operating Officer, Caitlin Butler, Director of Development, and Karl Malkin, Chief Financial Officer.
http://phlcouncil.com/FY17-council-budget-center
A
C
My
name
is
Jane
golden
and
I'm.
The
executive
director
of
the
Philadelphia
mural
arts
program.
C
D
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
with
you
today
and
thank
you
to
the
many
people
who
are
here
to
support
the
Arts
and.
C
I'm
gonna
give
a
shout
out
to
our
chief
cultural
officer,
Kelly
Lena's,
here,
Thank
You,
Kelly
I'm
excited
I'm,
always
excited
to
testify
for
mural
arts,
class
100
and
200
allocations,
totaling
1.6
million
dollars
the
energy
and
optimism
in
Philadelphia
is
tangible
right
now,
despite
considerable
challenges,
the
city
seems
to
be
at
a
pivotal
moment
of
change.
The
big
question
that
hangs
over
this
moment
is
how
can
we
move
the
needle
in
a
way
that
is
inclusive
and
equitable,
where
one
person
struggle
as
everyone
struggle
and
one
person's
victory
is
everyone's
victory.
C
Mural
arts
is
committed
to
being
part
of
the
movement
for
positive
and
equitable
change.
It's
in
our
DNA
the
driving
concept
from
the
very
beginning,
rather
than
be
punitive
with
those
who
have
fallen
through
the
cracks.
We
saw
the
restorative
approach
that
reinforced
their
value.
We
learn
that
early
on,
when
we
were
the
anti-graffiti
network,
where
graffiti
writers,
destructive
impulses
were
reimagined
as
creative
assets.
Art
became
a
lifeline
for
young
people
all
over
the
city
that
was
32
years
ago.
C
The
work
we're
doing
now
is
different,
more
complex,
more
expansive,
but
the
principle
remains
the
same.
Go
to
any
neighborhood
and
you'll
see
our
work
underway
at
athens,
snyder,
cheryl,
Olinsky,
south
east
by
southeast.
The
hub
is
a
thriving
cultural
center
and
resource
center.
You
can
see
everything
from
art
workshops
to
ESL
social
services.
In
this
space.
The
Burmese,
Bhutanese
and
Nepali
refugee
communities
have
built
strong
intergenerational
relationships
that
led
the
charge
to
clean
the
neighborhood
and
bring
about
all
kinds
of
cultural
programming.
C
How
exciting
it
was
to
walk
into
South
Philly
high
school
recently
and
see
young
people
excited
about
algebra,
as
they
visually
demonstrated,
math
through
art
or
roxboro
high
school
with
it
where
they
were
talking
about
the
universe.
Our
education
program
embodies
the
principles,
a
project-based
learning,
challenging
our
students
to
think
critically
to
collaborate
to
be
problem.
Solvers.
We
want
to
give
our
students
a
voice
and
a
choice.
C
Our
graduation
rate
and
our
advanced
programs
is
a
hundred
percent
and
we
have
a
very
high
rate
of
students
moving
on
to
higher
ed,
and
it
shows
that
our
sustained
rigorous
methodology
pays
off
within
the
seed
of
each
public.
Art
project
grows
the
possibility
that
our
young
people
will
be
the
next
generation
of
thought.
Leaders
I
also
want
to
mention
our
guild
program.
C
Yes,
which
puts
individuals
who
re-entering
society
to
work
young
people,
we
work
with
people
coming
out
of
prison,
young
adults
on
probation,
and
we
challenge
them.
Ask
them
work
with
them
to
restore
and
beautify
public
and
cultural
spaces.
Since
2009
the
program
has
enrolled
more
than
600
participants
and
has
been
astonishingly
successful
with
a
one-year
recidivism
rate
of
eighteen
percent
compared
to
Pennsylvania
statewide
rate
of
thirty
five
percent
at
a
national
rate
of
sixty-five
percent
are.
C
Those
who
completed
the
guild
described
it
as
supportive
but
disciplined
where
they
can
get
back
on
their
feet
and
have
a
positive
work
environment
that
gives
them
a
renewed
sense
of
purpose,
meaning
and
value.
Amira
Mohan,
one
of
our
graduates,
said:
I,
went
from
being
a
number
and
an
inmate
to
being
covered
with
paint
doing
something
that
I
love
and
giving
back
to
Philadelphia
in
a
positive
way.
That's
what
we
like
to
hear
and,
more
importantly,
seventy
percent
of
our
graduates
move
on
to
jobs
or
other
programs.
C
Yes,
and
we
we
prioritize
working
in
public
spaces,
scrolls
park
and
recreation
centers.
These
aging
community
amenities
risk
sending
messages
to
communities
of
dissing,
then
disinvestment
public
art
benches.
Other
contributions
can
make
a
significant
difference
and
signal
real
momentum.
Most
of
our
guild
reentry
projects
focus
on
these
kinds
of
spaces
so
that
the
participants
are
maximizing
their
impact,
maximizing
their
contributions
to
communities
and
the
dollars.
The
dollars
that
are
spent
have
double
impact.
C
It
is
a
win-win
were
transforming
individuals
and
transforming
Civic
spaces
were
also
conscious
of
our
aging
collection
and
we're
committed
to
restoring
iconic
murals
that
continue
to
be
important
to
the
community
cities.
Support
is
key
to
this
preservation
effort.
Our
projects
help
us
build
trusting
relationships
with
residents
that
give
us
insight
and
depressing
community
challenges
such
as
trash
and
dumping,
housing
and
security.
Public
safety
concerns
health
concerns
blade.
We
use
our
knowledge
to
build
alliances
between
people
and
city
agencies
and
nonprofits
that
can
address
the
needs
of
citizens
of
this
city.
C
C
Earlier
this
year
the
Yale
School
of
Medicine
shared
with
us
the
findings
for
a
four-year
controlled
study,
people
always
say
jangled
and
you're
so
excited
what's
the
impact.
Well,
we
have
it
in
describing
a
statistically
significant
impact
on
communities.
The
Yale
team
showed
us
an
increase
and
something
called
collective
efficacy
and
I'll.
Tell
you
what
that
means.
It
means
that
our
processes
created
a
window
of
time.
What
communities
are
in
a
better
position
to
help
themselves
when
substantial
change
led
by
those
from
within,
become
more
possible.
C
This
is
a
powerful
finding
for
me
because
it
gives
us
hard
evidence
to
our
belief.
It
reinforces
it
that
art
ignites
change.
Yes,
in
the
process
of
creating
change,
we
are
contributing
to
a
thread
and
creative
economy
by
investing
nearly
two
million
dollars
annually
in
artists
wages.
That's
here
at
the
artist.
C
That
and
not
just
provide
them
with
spaces
to
show
their
work,
which
I
do
think
is
fantastic
as
well,
and
we
also
are
very
determined
to
help
them
make
connections
to
enrich
their
careers
as
they
enrich
mural
arts
and
the
city
artist.
Michelle
Ortiz,
who
worked
with
us
in
this
big
public
art
exhibition.
We
had
in
the
fall
said
that
mural
arts
opened
doors
to
being
able
to
play
stories
that
are
often
invisible
or
unheard
in
public.
She
said
that
working
with
us
allowed
her
to
do
work.
She
never
would
have
done.
C
It
would
have
been
impossible
for
me
to
do.
She
said
and
her
extraordinary
vision,
and
perhaps
you
saw
the
compass
rose
it
with
figures
in
a
dealing
with
issues
around
immigration
and
deportation.
We
were
able
to
help
her
bring
that
image
to
fruition.
We
want
to
make
artists
bring
their
vision
to
reality.
We
want
to
link
them
to
important
social
issues
in
the
city,
because
we
feel
very
deeply
that
artists
are
change
agents
and
it's
not
just
local
artists.
C
But
artists
from
around
the
world
are
beginning
to
see
that
something
very
special
is
happening
in
our
city.
They
see
the
Philadelphia
is
a
place
that
supports
artists.
They
want
to
work
in
close
collaboration
with
us.
They
see
our
community
leaders,
business
leaders
and
public
servants
embracing
the
art.
I
will
never
forget.
Shepard
fairey
at
a
mural
dedication
with
Councilman
scrilla,
and
he
said
I've
never
seen.
I
have
been
to
cities
all
over
the
world
and
I've
never
seen
anything
like
what
is
going
on
here
in
Philadelphia,
and
this
is
what
he
said.
C
It's
like
the
artists
are
in
charge.
I
said
no
over
that
we're
not
really
in
charge
I
said,
but
we
we
are
embraced
and
respective,
and
that
is
extraordinary,
and
so
I
am
so
grateful
to
all
of
you
in
the
room
today
for
supporting
us
for
helping
artists
do
their
work.
You
have
established
Philadelphia
as
an
incubator
for
creativity
and
innovation
and
speaking
of
open
source.
C
5,000
people
from
here
and
all
over
the
world
worked
on
that
mural.
It
made
the
Guinness
Book
of
World
Records.
More
importantly,
the
Pope
signed
it
as
this
incredible
moment
in
time
was
broadcast
for
the
world
to
see.
I
could
not
have
been
prouder,
as
I
heard,
Anderson
Cooper
on
CNN,
say:
Philadelphia
is
home
to
more
murals
than
anywhere
in
the
world.
Over
and
over
again.
C
Over
and
over
again
we're
hearing
from
artisan
cities
about
Philly,
this
is
a
place
where
artists
want
to
work
and
a
place
where
other
cities
want
to
learn.
And
how
great
is
that,
for
us,
I
want
to
quote
quote
a
recent
collaborator
internationally
known
artist,
caledonia,
Kerry,
otherwise
known
as
swoon.
She
said
working
with
mural
arts
has
given
back
to
me
many
times
more
than
I
was
able
to
give
to
them,
and
I
tried
to
give
as
much
as
I
could
I
feel
so
moved
and
fed
by
mural
arts,
because
of
it.
C
My
life
has
changed
in
profound
ways,
and
this
is
a
woman
who
shows
her
work
at
museums
all
over
the
world.
She
joined
with
us
last
year
to
work
with
participants
from
a
halfway
house
and
people
in
our
guild
program
and
a
greater
for
prison,
and
she
did
incredible
work
about
issues
related
to
trauma.
She
created
these
beautiful,
portraits
inspired
by
stories
of
hope
and
personal
hearing,
so
their
stories
could
take
root,
fly
and
become
real
and
artists.
Aren't
aren't
the
only
people
coming
from
afar
with
an
interest
in
our
work?
C
Author
max
Kutner
wrote
that
it
is
because
mural
arts
focuses
on
community
engagement
and
social
justice
and
engaging
in
great
art
and
moving
forward
we're
doing
a
lot
several
projects
for
the
DNC,
a
major
public
art
project
in
southwest
Philly,
restoring
rec
center
centers
in
germantown
in
North
Philadelphia
working
with
kids
citywide
working
with
Connor
Barwin
and
his
team
at
Smith
playground,
creating
a
theatrical
production
with
veterans
and
people
who,
later
rock.
We
have
a
big
project.
C
The
Italian
market,
we're
creating
a
masterpiece
mural
which
about
children
and
trauma
a
Richard
Allen
tribute
Meryl,
a
masterpiece
and
many
more
projects
coming
that
tie
into
the
goals
of
mayor
Kenny's
administration
and
the
goals
and
beliefs
of
City
Council.
Your
investment
makes
this
all
possible.
Your
belief
in
our
impact
inspires
funders
to
match
the
city's
allocation
five
to
seven
times
over
every
year,
and
it's
not
just
funders
in
philly
you're
leveraging,
but
foundations
and
corporations
from
around
the
world.
C
It
is
clear
to
everyone
near
and
far
that
philadelphia
is
a
city
on
the
move,
but
while
we
strive
to
never
stand
still,
our
strong
arts
and
culture
sector
helps
to
keep
us
on
a
steady
upward
path.
We
want
to
thank
our
friends
from
the
Greater
Philadelphia
Cultural
Alliance
other
advocates
and
the
wonderful
arts,
organizations,
museums
and
institutions
that
grace
our
city.
We
have
amazing
colleagues,
the
power
of
arch,
of
lift
our
neighborhoods
galvanize
our
communities
and
bring
people
together
is
tangible
and
true.
C
So,
as
we
step
into
this
upcoming
year,
one
I
think
will
be
one
of
our
best
I
want
you
all
to
know
how
grateful
I
am
to
you
I.
Not
only
thank
you.
I
ask
all
of
you
to
join
us
to
work
with
us
in
the
journey
of
creativity
and
discovery.
Together,
we
will
use
art
to
engage
to
enliven
and
to
transform
our
city.
Thank
you.
A
D
A
A
So
you'll
come
in
front
of
City
Council,
with
your
enthusiasm
and
to
let
everybody
know
what
mural
arts
does
every
day
and
the
change,
and
that
has
been
taken
place
in
our
neighborhoods
and
in
our
communities
with
community
involvement.
There
is
an
ask
for
additional
resources
which
which
I
support,
in
addition
to
what
you
come
with
come
here
today
with
an
extra
five
hundred
thousand
dollars.
Alright,
that,
if
you
were
to
have,
can
you
please
describe
the
additional
work
that
you
could
do
with
it?
Yes,.
C
We
could
for
I
think
that
I
want
to
start
with
our
re-entry
work.
I
think
it
is
I
think
that
I'm
passionate
about
this
because
I
see
real
change.
I
mean
you
are
our
guild.
Members
are
learning
skills
and
then
applying
those
skills
to
real
city
issues,
really
changing
our
built
environment,
changing
the
quality
of
life
for
people.
So
that's
like
paying
it
forward
in
a
very
profound
way,
so
with
extra
funds
that
500,000
will
allow
us
to
serve
anywhere
from
25
to
50.
C
More
can
stitch
wants
and
restorative
justice,
just
in
the
course
of
year,
and
then
we,
you
know
when
you
think
about
it.
The
the
cost
is
probably
five
thousand
dollars
per
participant
and
I
know
that
to
be
in
an
institution,
it's
about
thirty-five
thousand
dollars.
So
I'd
say
it's:
it
saves
society
money
period
and
it
saves
people's
lives
it
you
know,
like
I
said
in
my
my
testimony.
It
is
a
win-win.
Then
I
really
feel
very
committed
to
the
issue.
Around
preservation.
C
C
I
know
that
when
murals
start
to
deteriorate,
that
people
are
calling
us
communities
get
together,
they
want
to
know,
what's
what's
going
to
happen
and
I'm
going
to
be
very
proud
on
Friday,
to
stand
in
front
of
the
negro
league
at
Belmont
and
Parkside,
and
talk
not
only
about
the
restoration
of
that
iconic
mural,
but
also
that
we
just
restored
the
Jackie
Robinson
mural
I
mean
Jackie.
Robinson
should
be
there
for
the
world
to
see
sliding
into
home.
C
C
Thousands
of
people
would
be
affected
and
we
create
an
equitable
distribution
of
where
the
project
we
do
get
100
projects
a
year
and
I'm
happy.
Actually
two
will
go
back
and
we
can
do
some.
Research
and
I
can
disseminate
this
maps
to
everybody
I
actually
in
our
packets,
and
we
can
do
this
again.
We
can
show
everyone
like
where
we're
working
where
we
plan
to
be
working
in
this
fiscal
year
coming
up
and
it's
it's
like.
We
try
to
work
everywhere.
C
We
try
to
be
sort
of
omnipresent
if
we
can
so
it
will
allow
us
to
do
a
lot
more
work
in
communities
throughout
the
city,
impacting
thousands
of
people
and
also
it
will
impact
our
restorative
justice
program
profoundly
and
we
will
leverage
it
and
that's
the
other
thing.
We
do
not
take
city
money
for
granted.
We
are
like
the
energizer
bunnies
running
like
I,
like
am
so
grateful
for
every
dollar.
C
C
Would
we
would
still
do
great
things?
I
mean
we
preserve
a
body
of
work.
We
would
do
new
work
because
I
like
feel
like
oh
I,
mean
we
would
take
that
and
we
would
leverage
it
because
I
know
how
many
foundations
exist
but
locally
nationally,
who
are
very
intrigued
and
actually
support
us,
because
we
have
funding
from
the
city
because
they
think
this
model,
a
public-private
model,
is
a
sound
way
of
working
and
I.
Concur,
I!
Think
it's
a
really
smart
investment.
C
A
No
II
did
that's
that's
great
if
you,
if
you
have
specifics
on
on
that
one
that
dollar
value
you
can
provide
it
to
the
chair
and
we'll
make
sure
that
the
members
get
it
as
far
as
the
administration
plans
for
rebuild
and
it's
you
know,
new
vision
for
or
rebuild
of,
recreation,
sports,
recreation,
centers
and
libraries
is
mural
arts
included
in
it.
We.
C
We
hope
that
we
are,
we
aspire
to
be
part
of
that.
We
think
it's
really
exciting
and,
of
course,
I'm.
A
huge
fan
of
you
know,
Park
and
Recreation
Catherine
out
level
was
at
one
point
part
of
mural
arts.
We
look
forward
to
working
with
her
and
we
think
all
over
the
country
there's
a
real
trend
for
artists
to
be
involved
in
big
projects.
Capital
projects
in
at
the
front
end
instead
of
the
back
end,
and
so
we
would
really
look
forward
to
being
part
of
that
and.
A
B
I
think
it
was
two
years
ago
there
was
a
slight
increase
related
to
the
increase
in
the
co-pay
on
the
health
insurance.
There
was
an
adjustment
made
to
the
city
workers
salaries.
Last
year
we
were
able
to
get
our
lowest
wage.
Many
of
our
people
who
work
on
our
crew
were
making
in
the
26
27
thousand
dollar
range.
We
were
able
to
bump
that
up
to
the
low
30s,
but
the
entire
11
people
who
are
part
of
the
city
of
Philadelphia
mural
arts
program
have
not
all
received
wait.
A
Their
favorite
was
there
any
claws
like
a
me
to
Klaus
when
you
notice,
city
municipal
contracts
or
none
represented
clock,
employees
receive
their
cost
of
living
increases.
Has
that
ever
been
a
history
or
when.
B
B
But
we
support,
we
would
say
all
our
employees,
the
city
in
the
city
workforce,
are
extraordinarily
dedicated,
work
hard
and
their
jobs
if
you've
been
in
council
for
a
while,
and
you
hear
Jane's
testimony
the
complexity
of
the
work
and
the
skill
set
required
to
do
that.
Work
has
grown
exponentially
and
our
staff
have
kept
pace
with
that
in
terms
of
their
own
skill
development,
their
dedication.
But
we
don't
think
the
compensation
is
in
alignment
and
we
get
the
complexity
of
that
issue.
For
the
city,
okay,.
E
Thank
You
councilman
Heenan
I
just
want
to
reiterate
some
of
the
things
you've
stated
on
the
record
of
reference
to
the
mural
arts
program.
They
do
a
phenomenal
job
of
leveraging
dollars,
I
think
every
dollar
of
city
dollars
that
go
in
there
able
to
leverage
at
least
another
seven
or
more
dollars
from
private
sources.
They've
done
a
phenomenal
job.
In
addition,
I
reiterate
your
position
in
reference
to
rebuild,
considering
that
the
administration's
program
to
use
funding
from
the
proposed
sugar-sweetened
beverage
tax
to
make
a
major
investment
in
our
recreation,
centers
parks
and
libraries
is
one.
E
That's
it's
fruitful,
but
the
fact
that
the
arts
program
has
already
been
doing
work
in
recreation,
centers
for
I
believe
the
past
10
years,
in
particular
just
this
year
alone.
My
understanding
that
we
don't
work
at
Happy,
Hollow
and
chewy
and
MLK
and
wistar
nozzle
Smith
playground,
so
you're
already
doing
the
work
and
they're
doing
the
work
in
a
way,
that's
a
very
meaningful
and
worthless
to
the
guilt,
and
my
question
is
that
for
the
guild
you
have
about
70
people
per
year
participating.
Is
that
correct
that.
E
What
percent
so
clearly?
This
is
a
an
organization
and
program,
that's
working,
it's
doing
a
great
job
in
reference
to
providing
people
an
opportunity
coming
out
of
or
returning
citizens
to
get
involved
in
meaningful
work
and
providing
restorative
justice.
One
other
thing
I
would
like
to
put
on
the
record
is
that
earlier
in
the
year,
I
had
hearings
regarding
social
impact,
bonds
or
pay
for
success,
bonds
and
I.
Think
the
work
that
niraj
program
does
is
also
an
outstanding
organization
to
qualify
for
those
type
for
that
type
of
funding
going
forward.
E
So
I'll
be
looking
at
how
we
could
possibly
partner
with
a
real
arts
program
to
maybe
bring
us
additional
resources
through
social
impact
bonds,
or
also
known
as
pay
for
success
fund,
but
also
supporting
what
council
human
said
about
ditional
funding
from
your
arts
program
as
well
as
have
a
meal
arts
part
of
the
rebuilding
process.
Thank.
C
F
Thank
you
very
much
chairman.
As
you
know,
I
I
do
very
much
support
your
program.
I
appreciate
the
work.
I
do
think
it's
quite
undervalued
and
I
do
believe
that
it
doesn't
get
as
much
credit
as
it
should
for
the
turnaround.
You
know
that
has
occurred
in
this
city.
I
am
concerned
about
the
cost
of
living
in
our
city.
I
am
not
in
favor
of
increasing
taxes
and
costs
in
the
city.
F
I
think
it's
a
I
think
it's
very
problematic
for
people,
but
I
very
much
appreciate
the
creative
economy
and
I
very
much
appreciate
your
work
and
I
would
happily
fund
your
program
because
I
think
it
is
so
much
a
good
return
on
our
investment.
Having
said
that,
I
do
have
a
question,
and
that
is
when
I
go
through
center
city,
especially
during
the
daytime
or
some
parts
in
the
evening
and
I
see
these
beautiful
murals.
You
know
it's.
F
It's
very
inspiring
I
think
it's
wonderful
for
our
city,
but
in
our
neighborhoods
you
know
there
are
also
some
wonderful
murals,
but
I
don't
see
them
lit
up
at
night
and
I'm
really
interested
in
our
evening
economy.
Our
night
life,
you
know,
I,
did
a
series
of
hearings
around
24
hour
Philadelphia
and
our
creative
and
innovative
economy,
and
is
it?
C
I
actually
think
that's
a
fantastic
idea.
We
have
actually
up
thanks
to
local
98.
We
have
a
few
murals
that
are
lit
and
when
they're
lit
their
captivating,
we
are
about
to
restore
the
American
flag,
mural,
that
iconic
mural
of
Delaware
and
spring
garden,
and
our
dream
is
to
have
that
we
would
love
to
come
talk
to
you
and
and
I
think
you're
right.
I
think
it's
going
to
take
several
entities
to
come
together
and
see.
C
We
feel
that,
with
this
increase,
even
even
a
modest
increase,
those
little
few
little
dollars,
it's
interesting
like
how
you
can
leverage
it
and
build
partnerships,
and
I
think
that
that
could
be
possible.
I
really
like
our
vision
would
be
to
have
murals
lit
to
have
evening
tours.
We
think
we
could
really
capitalize
on
it.
I
love
that
idea.
Well,.
F
I
would
love
for
you
to
write
out.
You
know
the
cost
of
this
and
how
we
can
leverage
it
and
coordinate
it,
and
then,
if
there's
any
additional
dollars,
we
need
to
spend
the
light
up,
especially
in
you
know
some
of
our
challenge,
neighborhoods,
where
I
think
this
will
be
very,
very
helpful
in
uplifting
spirits
and,
and
things
like
that.
So
thank
you
very
much
great.
D
Councilman
Heenan
good
morning
or
good
afternoon
is
at
us
just
a
couple
quick
questions.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
make
a
statement.
I
learned
a
long
time
ago.
Nothing
great
was
ever
accomplished
without
enthusiasm.
You've
accomplished
something
great
with
your
enthusiasm
and
all
the
artists
that
are
here
today.
It's
a
great
thing
and
it's
a
full
disclosure
I
own,
a
building
that
has
one
of
your
mural
arts
on
it.
As
you
know,
and
I'm
a
big
supporter
of
your
Lords.
D
D
D
Right,
so
let
me
just
give
you
an
maybe
this
is
a
path
to
go
down
for
your
funding.
If
those
70
people
in
the
average
in
the
state
is
thirty-five
percent
of
those
seventy
return,
you
said
we
keep.
We
are
averaging
we're
averaging
twelve
percent
correct,
so
the
deltas
twenty-three
percent
of
the
70,
which
is
about
what
14
or
15
people
we're
saving
43
thousand
times
the
15
people
do
the
math
it's
less
than
what
you're
requesting.
D
So
this
is
a
program
on
Echo
with
Councilman
Green
said
this
is
a
program
that's
worthy
of
funding,
especially
if
you
can
expand
that
restorative
justice
program
to
more
people,
because
the
investment
we
make
pays
back
the
return.
So
if
you
can,
if
you
could
double
the
amount,
it
would
be
phenomenal.
Thank.
G
Chairman,
thank
you,
Miss
Golden,
in
your
testimony.
You
reference
the
Energizer
Bunny
I
believe
that
you
could
teach
the
Energizer
Bunny
something
about
energy.
I
have
been
here
for
five
years
as
a
council
staff
person
I've
been
here
a
couple
months
as
a
city,
councilman
I
have
never
heard
such
an
enthusiastic
and
passionate
testimony
in
my
life,
and
that
is
that
is
truly
a
tribute
to
you.
G
I
do
have
one
question
as
it
relates
to
that
testimony.
What
did
you
have
for
breakfast
this
morning?
An
apple
I,
love,
big
believer
in
apples.
Are
there
they're,
very,
very
good,
I?
Think
the
sediment
for
many
of
my
colleagues,
particularly
councilman?
Oh
in
helping
light,
some
of
your
great
works
of
art
I
think
it's
something
we
should
look
at.
It
certainly
would
have
my
support.
I
think
this
is
a
great
investment,
seeing
the
quality
of
the
work
done.
Your
artists
are
here.
Your
your
supporters
are
here
I'm
very
impressed.
G
Also,
the
video
was
excellent
if
it's
possible,
I
would
like
to
copy
that
video
I
want
to
show
that
to
some
other
folks.
I
have
a
question
as
it
relates
to
a
article
was
written
and
I
believe
the
philadelphia
inquirer
on
not
an
article.
It
was
an
op-ed
on
april,
the
second
criticizing
you,
although
they
liked
you,
which
says
a
lot
about
you
as
well,
but
on
under
investigation
that
my
office
has
done.
I
saw
that
the
mural
in
question
of
a
presidential
candidate
was
not
your
neural
at
all.
It's
my
understanding.
That
is.
G
Well,
that's
good,
but
the
question
does
raise
I
mean
just
so.
We
have
a
greater
understanding
and
can
be
supportive.
What
is
your
procedure
in
getting
a
mural
up?
I
mean?
What
is
you
know?
What
themes
do
you
look
at
who
you
know
if
you're
honoring
someone
who
do
you
honor
how
the
hell
is
that
decision
made?
You
could.
C
Share
that
with
well
murals
happen
five
ways,
so
one
is
that
they
come
in
on
the
waiting
list
and
we
put
together
a
panel
several
times
a
year
and
the
demand
exceeds
our
ability
to
do
it.
So
it's
competitive,
so
people
are
really
asked.
You've
got
to
make
a
good
case
and
there
has
to
be
widespread
community
support.
It
can't
be
anything
related
to
an
active
political
situation.
I
mean
we're
a
city
agency
and
we're
very
I
mean
we
would
just
never
do
that.
I
mean,
and
so
that's
one
way.
C
The
second
way
is
projects
happen
because
they're
related
to
bodies
of
work,
art,
education,
criminal,
justice,
behavioral
health,
community
murals.
The
third
way
is
that
the
city
is
grappling
with
big
issues
around
trauma
around
gun
violence
and
a
member
of
City
Council
or
the
mayor's
office
or
the
mayor
will
say.
We
really
think
this
is
an
important
issue
to
do.
C
The
fourth
way
is
that
there
is
that
funders
have
ideas
too
and
that
one
we
did
years
ago,
a
big
project
on
workforce
development,
but
it
was
a
theme
that
was
related
to
the
city,
and
the
fifth
way
is
that
artists
have
ideas,
sure
and
they
are
brilliant
thinkers,
but
we
always
have
an
internal
committee
who
is
vetting
our
body
of
work
for
that,
so
we
could
go
over
with
you
now
FY,
17
and
say
here
are
some
decisions
we
made.
This
is
why
we
made
them
be
able
to
justify
them
and
then
we're.
Actually.
C
G
I
appreciate
that
very
detailed
answer
and
it
gives
me
a
much
better
understanding
and
maybe
the
Inquirer
or
to
print
that
what
you
just
said
on
how
this
is
done.
So
people
have
an
understanding
what
you
do,
maybe
I
mean
I
think
it
would
be
a
natural
request
if
I,
maybe
I'll,
write
something
with
you.
Oh.
G
Should
know
the
story
immediately,
everyone
thought
that
you
did
this
mural
and,
of
course
it's
it's
a
highly
political
season
and
people
are
for
and
against
that
everything
else-
and
here
is
Mr
Sanders
in
a
very
big
way,
and
so
I
think
the
question
was
answered
very
very
well
and
I
am
a
big
fan
of
your
program
as
well.
I
want
that
to
go
on
record
and
mr.
red
chairman.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
F
You
very
much,
I
certainly
agree
with
all
that
has
been
said
regarding
Ural
arts
and
everybody
loves
in
your
arts
and
we're
proud
that
we
have
4,000
in
our
city.
I.
Think
that
we
ought
to
consider
during
our
1%
art
for
mural
arts.
It
would
help
us
it
makes
a
big
difference.
We
could
still
get
art
and
I
believe
that
we
should
investigate
that
and
certainly
again
support.
All
that
has
been
said.
Thank
you.
Thank
You.
C
Is
a
fantastic
idea?
I
love
that
idea
many
years
ago
when
we
did
the
love
letter
project
in
West
Philadelphia
and
we
took
over
an
empty
storefront
and
we
started
the
artist
said:
let's
have
a
sign,
painting
business
I'm
like
well.
What
do
we
know
about
sign,
painting
nothing
but
he's
like
we're
artists.
We
can
do
it
and
people
started
commissioning
us
to
do
science
along
the
market
street
corridor
and
it
was
fantastic
fast-forward
to
southeast
by
South
is
or
the
neighborhood
time
exchange
in
West
Philadelphia,
where
there's
all
this
energy
percolating.