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From YouTube: Special Committee on Gun Violence Prevention 3-11-2021
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The Special Committee on Gun Violence Prevention of the Council of the City of Philadelphia held a Public Hearing on Friday, March 11, 2022, at 9:30 AM to hear testimony on the following items:
211007 Resolution authorizing the Special Committee on Gun Violence Prevention to conduct hearings to examine the correlation between domestic violence and gun violence.
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H
My
name
is
francis
healy.
I'm
a
special
eviction
to
the
police.
Commissioner,
the
the
operation
today
will
the
chief
manure
will
go
through
the
point
presentation,
the
slides,
identifying
the
trends
of
domestic
violence
over
the
last
several
years
and
after
that
point,
the
chief
myself,
as
well
as
a
chief
inspector
love
craighead,
is
on
the
call
to
answer
any
of
the
questions
people
may
have
as
to
what
we're
doing
coordinating
all
our
efforts
with
other
city
agencies
as
well,
so
I'll.
Let
the
chief
begin.
A
A
So
if
you
want
to
move
to
the
next
slide
I'll
begin
and
show
you
some
of
what
we
put
together,
so
domestic
assaults
increased
despite
non-domestic
assault
remaining
really
the
same
from
2017
all
the
way
up
to
the
end
of
last
year,
the
number
of
domestic
assaults
increased
by
about
18
percent.
Now,
if
you
look
relatively
from
17,
through
21,
domestic
assaults
increased
from
being
about
35
percent
of
all
assaults
to
being
about
39
of
all
assaults
granted.
A
The
salts
did
rise
during
that
period
of
time,
so
it
was
a
significant,
a
significant
increase
but
you're
going
to
see
an
even
more
significant
increase
on
the
next
slide.
So
in
the
very
next
slide,
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
trends
of
domestic
gun
assaults,
and
this
is
where
it's
really
frightening
numbers.
When
you're,
looking
at
both
domestic
and
non-domestic
assaults,
with
guns,
increased
in
between
2017
and
2021.,
and
specifically
domestic
assaults
with
guns,
increased
106
in
that
five-year
period,
now
we
all
know
we
went
through.
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A
Looking
at
the
next
slide,
the
homicide
numbers
domestic
related
homicides
showed
a
similar
increase
in
trends
with
non-domestic
homicides,
with
the
exception
of
2020,
which
I
couldn't
explain
to
you
other
than
everybody
was
in
a
state
of
chaos
in
that
particular
year.
So
I'm
not
sure,
but
we
definitely
decreased
a
little
bit
in
that
period.
A
Seeing
there
we
ranked
the
top
10
neighborhoods
that
had
domestic
related
homicides
between
2017
and
this
year,
really
up
until
the
9th
of
march
and
you'll,
see
that
you
know
the
frankfurt
neighborhood
kensington
olney
date
list
is
the
top
three.
All
of
them
are
listed
there
on
your
chart.
If
you
could
see
it,
there
are
some
neighborhoods
on
this
map
that
are
white,
that
have
absolutely
no
domestic
related
homicides
recorded.
A
So
that's
some
specific
targeted
data
that
we
could
use
when
we
start
to
build
our
plan
to
be
more
proactive
in
these
trying
to
prevent
these
homicides.
But
that's
a
very
telling
map
where
you
see
everything's
really
concentrated
in
those
areas
and
the
next.
The
next
map
would
show
assaults
by
neighborhood
domestic
related
assaults.
A
Some
of
those
same
neighborhoods
line
up
and
you'll
see
all
those
assault
calls
and
and
investigations
listed
there
from
kensington
cops,
creek
germantown,
north
central
police
division,
which
is
right
in
the
area
strawberry
mansion,
king
sassing,
southwest
haddington,
frankfurt,
the
strawberry
mansion
neighborhood
is
listed
twice,
so
that's
divided
between
the
north
central
area
and
strawberry
mansion.
But
that
has
a
significant
number,
if
you
add
them
together
and
you
have
the
tioga
area.
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A
So
it's
very
significant,
notably
the
increase
in
assaults
with
guns
occurred
from
2020
and
later,
which
is
when
we
were
dead
smack
in
the
middle
of
the
pandemic,
with
quarantines
and
people
people
all
staying
home,
including
children
and
adults.
A
relatively
small
portion
of
homicides
are
domestic
in
nature,
but
they
account
for
seven
percent
of
all
our
homicides
and
noted
that
the
the
low
count
of
domestic
homicides
makes
it
difficult
to
compare
year
to
year.
A
We
started
counting
crime
differently.
We
used,
we
went
from
the
uniform
crime
reporting
system
to
the
national
incident-based
reporting
system,
which
the
whole
country
uses.
The
incident-based
reporting
system
is
very
specific
about
relationships,
as
we
do
our
investigative
reports
as
we
capture
our
data.
We
are
capturing
everybody's
relationship
to
each
other.
So
when
we
say
something
is
domestic
related
now
it
could
be
a
brother
sister,
a
cousin
aunt,
if
they're,
if
they're
living
together,
if
an
assault
occurs,
that's
going
to
be
now
categories
as
domestic
related.
So
that's
very
important.
A
Not
all
of
these
are
spouse
or
significant
other
male
female
boyfriend
girlfriend
whatever
it
would
be.
Some
of
these
are
family
brothers,
cousins,
a
sister-in-law
one
of
my
homicides
involves
a
sister-in-law
disputing
with
another
female.
So
it's
very
important.
You
understand
that
the
categorization
changed
we're
really
closely
monitoring
relationships
between
people
and
in
all
those
cases,
everybody
was
known
to
each
other
before
the
incident
began,
so
I'll
open
it
for
questions
or
if
inspector
healey
would
have
any
further
comment.
H
Just
to
piggyback
on
what
the
chief
just
mentioned,
the
definitions
are
consistent
with
the
the
crimes
killed
in
pennsylvania,
as
well
as
the
domestic
code.
The
definition
of
that
relationship
is
much
broader
than
just
a
husband,
wife,
boyfriend,
girlfriend
type
situation,
so
our
numbers
capture
the
domestic
related
incidents.
So
all
these
don't
necessarily
mean
they're
against
a
woman.
It
could
be
family
members
that
had
a
an
assault
or
disagreement.
H
Also,
I
just
want
to
touch
on
very
quickly
trying
to
be
proactive
with
the
pfa
issues,
as
well
as
the
gun
relinquishments
under
act
79,
the
sheriff's
department,
the
police
department
and
the
courts
have
have
worked
rather
well.
Together.
We've
got
a
very
good,
solid
agreement
to
make
sure
that
you
know
balls
don't
get
dropped
between
the
agencies,
because
in
philadelphia
it
is
a
unique
situation.
H
Being
a
such
a
large
city,
a
city
of
the
first
class,
where
the
sheriff
and
the
police
have
kind
of
very
similar
duties
when
it
comes
to
the
p
act.
79
we've
we've
worked
very
well
together
and
identifying
the
responsibilities
between
our
agencies,
so
we're
not
duplicating
efforts
and
also
what
we've
done
is.
We've
made
sure
that
there
are
available
places
for
people
to
relinquish
firearms
so
as
they
feel
comfortable
in
doing
so.
H
We
we
don't
want
to
make
it
difficult
for
somebody
who's
legitimately,
trying
to
relinquish
a
fire
and
everything
above
board
and
make
it
difficult
for
so
we've
actually
opened
up
the
detected
division.
We
have
six
detected
visions
throughout
the
city
in
addition
to
the
sheriff's
office,
who
can
accept
these
firearms
during
the
day,
but
on
off
hours
and
holidays
and
weekends?
H
Commissioner
outlaw
has
authorized
the
detective
division
to
accept
any
firearm
relinquishments
as
well,
so
we're
doing
we're
working
as
a
concerted
effort
with
the
court
making
sure
that
we
all
communicate
with
each
other,
which
is
key
in
this
process.
So
we
all
have
dedicated
email
addresses
now
between
the
showers
ppd,
as
well
as
the
court
for
making
sure
that
all
the
notifications
are
made
when
necessary
and
that
everybody's
getting
up
to
speed
information
and
also
for
the
court's
perspective,
that
this
information
will
be
able
to
be
docketed
as
it's
supposed
to
be
in
act.
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A
So
we,
as
far
as
the
training
goes-
and
in
fact
this
year
already,
we've
we've
received
some
training
through
our
partners,
women
against
abuse,
individual
came
in,
who
was
a
retired
nashville
police
officer.
He
had
a
lot
of
training
and
a
lot
of
success
in
nashville
of
being
preventing
incidents
like
this
and
what
his
program
is
is
really
doing
what
we
do
with
the
gvi
program.
H
And
also,
let
me
just
jump
into
the
women
against
abuse
have
been
a
great
partner
with
us
for
not
just
this
year.
But
as
long
as
I
can
remember
in
my
position
up
here
in
the
police
commissioner's
office,
they've
always
sold
out
grant
money
to
help
us
with
training
our
domestic
violence
officers.
So
we
have
a
very
good
relationship
and
we're
very
appreciative
of
the
work
that
they
do
for
our
department.
A
No,
I
was,
it
was
training
that
we
gave
across
the
city
and
it
was
actually
paid
for
by
the
women
against
abuse
project
and
officers.
Did
it
not
on
the
regular
tour
duty,
but
we
actually
brought
them
in
to
do
it,
so
it
was
definitely
voluntary,
but
many
people
went
through
it.
It
was
a
good
training
and
we're
going
to
continue
to
to
work
with
them.
B
A
So
everybody's
frozen
on
my
screen.
So
if
you
lose
me
I'll
come
right
back
on,
but
I
apologize,
but
what
in
in
mid
2000's,
then
deputy
commissioner
pat
georgio
fox,
introduced
a
new
reporting
procedure
for
officers.
We
have
a
initial
report.
We
only
use
for
domestic
violence
and
on
that
report
we're
able
to
mark
down
what
relationships
are
and
a
lot
of
other
significant
information.
A
We
need
each
of
my
detective
divisions
have
domestic
violence
investigators,
so
we
use
them
reports
to
try
to
track
repeat
call
analysis
to
try
to
see
if
there's
issues
such
as
a
protection
from
abuse
order.
If
there
is
a
gun
in
play
in
any
of
these
ownership,
we
try
to
intervene
in
those
cases
right
away
and
that's
where
chief
inspector
love
craigheads
people
could
come
in
and
help
us
because
they
will
liaison
with
one
of
the
parties
both
of
the
parties
to
see.
H
And
if
I
can
just
jump
in
sorry
that
form
that
the
chief
best
mentioned
that
was
coordinated
with
the
university
of
penn
and
some
of
their
social
science
experts
and
identifying
that
strangulation
is,
is
a
very
big
indicator
and
we're
trying
to
prioritize
and
a
lot
of
that
information
is
now
included
on
that
form.
So
the
investigators
have
much
more
information
to
actually
do
proactive
work.
B
Okay,
thank
you
and
and
another
question.
How
does
9-1-1
triage
domestic
violence
cause
right
because,
obviously
there's
a
lot
of
gun
violence?
There's
a
lot
of
crime
taking
place
in
the
city
of
philadelphia,
so
that's
going
to
determine
the
type
of
response
time
right,
but
oftentimes
at
least
it's
been
my
experience.
B
Person
may
call
because
boyfriend
may
be
aggravating
them,
maybe
trying
to
assault
them,
maybe
threatening
them
right.
In
some
cases,
response
time
might
be
a
little
longer
right
when
a
person
is
trying
to
see
help
right
and
then
obviously,
depending
on
how
agitated
the
individual
is
the
perpetrator
is,
it
may
go
from
threatening
to
physical
to.
Let
me
get
a
gun.
Is
there
a
way
to
particularly
bring
domestic
violence
issues
with
gun
violence,
with
guns
up
on
a
higher
scale,
when
a
person
does
call.
H
Well
I'll
mention
a
gun
call
in
and
of
itself
would
be
highly
will
be
a
high
priority,
but
the
issue,
what
just
there's
an
overlap
between
some
of
the
all
the
things
we're
trying
to
do.
I
don't
know
if
you're
familiar,
I
know
you
are
familiar
with
the
co-responder
model
that
we're
implementing
in
police
department,
along
with
the
upgrades
and
the
police
radio,
all
this
kind
of
wraps
into
what
you're
just
mentioning.
So
when
these
calls
are
now
coming
in,
we
don't
really
mention
it.
It's
really
not
that's
a
mental
health
issue.
H
It's
a
crisis
call!
A
lot
of
these
are
crisis
situations
where
people
are
out
of
control,
even
if
it's
temporarily
so
the
issue
is
we're
asking
mental
health
questions
up
front
to
try
to
capture
more
information,
so
we
can
push
it
down
to
police
officers,
but
also
as
a
part
of
this
process.
We
are
identifying
certain
calls
that
we
are
sending
automatically
now
cit
trained,
that's
crisis
intervention
trained
office
to
and
domestic
related
calls
are
one
of
those
calls,
so
those
calls
are
coming
in
once
we
can
identify
that
it's
a
domestic
related.
H
Obviously,
if
they're
calling
they're
everybody
is
usually
in
some
form
of
crisis
and
crisis
is
not
a
bad
word
crisis,
we
can
all
go
through
crisis
at
any
point
in
time.
At
that
point,
there
they're
being
tagged
as
cit
calls,
so
our
radio
is
then
pushing
out
to
the
first
of
it
or
the
closest
available
cit
officers
to
get
to
the
call.
H
B
Good-
and
this
is
my
last
question
before
I
turn
it
over
to
my
colleagues-
I
know
councilman
curtis
john
either
had
a
hearing
or
introduced
a
recommended
bill
on
the
state
level
that
deals
with,
and
you
touched
on
this
early
on,
but
I
just
want
you
to
take
more
of
a
deeper
dive
in
it.
So
personally
I'm
protecting
protection
from
abuse
order,
but
that
person
has
a
license
to
carry
right
and
kurt.
I
may
need
your
help
to
elaborate
on
this,
because
this
is
your
issue.
B
How
do
we
address
that,
like
this
person
got
the
p,
you
know
protection
abuse
order,
erratic
behavior-wise
right?
What
happens
when
the
wife
or
spouse?
Could
you
know
whoever
their
spouse?
Is
they
call
it
in?
They
got
the
particular
abuse,
but
they
said
I
want
you
to
know
that
he
does
own
a
gun.
What
happens?
What
starts
that
process.
G
In
addition,
if
people
exhibit
threatening
behavior
red
flag
laws,
allow
the
police
department
the
authority
to
come
in
and
confiscate
weapons
and
tell
there
is
a
hearing
before
a
judge,
so
that
that
person
proves
himself
not
a
threat,
so
if
they
can
elaborate
and
include
the
red
flag
provisions
as
well.
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
helpful.
Mr
chairman,
thank.
H
You
I'll
try
to
get
everything
in
there's
two
issues
with
the
domestic
violence
as
to
relinquishments.
One
is
relinquishments
issued
as
part
of
a
pfa
when
somebody
has
not
been
convicted
of
a
crime.
If
somebody
now,
if
somebody
actively
uses
a
firearm
in
the
commission
of
some
offense
and
we
come
on
scene,
we
seize
the
firearm
as
we
would
in
any
other
crime,
but
the
person
may
not
have
used
a
firearm,
but
then
a
subsequent
order
is
issued
where
the
gun
has
to
be
relinquished.
H
In
that
case
there
that's
part
of
the
agreement
with
the
sheriff's
office
I
mentioned
earlier.
There's
a
sheriff's
order,
I'm
sorry
step
one
be
the
sheriff's
normally
serve
most
of
these
orders.
A
handful
of
complaints
will
actually
go
to
the
police
district
and
we'll
serve
them.
But
if
there's
any
guns
in
there
we'll
say
listen,
we
know
you
have
guns,
you
need
to
relinquish
the
guns
and
they
do
so.
We
we
document
them
according
to
the
law
and
we
preserve
them
over
at
the.
H
Out
crime-
okay,
which
was
didn't
it
wasn't
there
before
and
under
act
79-
requires
people
with
the
the
with
the
pfa
relinquishments
to
turn
the
guns
over
within
24
hours.
That's
that's
a
huge
thing,
so
making
sure
that's
really
the
reason
why
the
sheriffs
and
I
had
to
really
work
out
the
details
to
make
sure
that
once
we
get
noticed
from
the
court,
the
clock
starts
ticking.
H
Somebody
doesn't
show
up
with
the
guns,
and
then
we
actually
will
initiate
a
criminal
investigation
to
see
whether
or
not
they
even
have
any
guns
if
they
haven't
relinquished
them,
whatever
the
case
may
be,
and
I'll
get
into
the
complexity
of
whether
that
they
do
or
do
not
have
guns
in
a
second
but
the
second
side
of
the
whole
issue
of
acts.
Every
night
is
the
domestic
related
convictions,
so
once
somebody's
take
a
step
back,
if
you
get
a
pfa
and
you
have
a
firearms
relinquishment
on
it,
that's
not
permanent.
H
Okay,
after
it's
expired,
you
can
petition,
get
your
firearms
back
and
everything
everything's
fine.
Everything
goes
back
to
normal.
However,
if
you've
been
convicted
of
a
domestic
related
misdemeanor,
you
were
forever
prohibited
under
under
federal
law
from
possessing
firearms
and
ammunition.
So
what
happens?
Is
the
court
is
required
and
the
court
has
mechanisms
in
place
now?
I've
talked
to
a
judge,
clemens
or
they're
actually
issue
a
relinquishment
order
to
the
individuals
who
have
now
been
convicted.
So
imagine
you,
you
were
convicted
of
a
domestic
related
assault.
You
have
three
firearms.
H
You
now
have
to
get
rid
of
those
firearms.
You
cannot
possess
them.
The
previous
law
prior
to
act
79
gave
you,
I
believe,
60
days,
to
turn
those
firearms
in
or
to
dispossess
them,
meaning
you
have
to
sell
them.
You
have
to
get
them
out
of
your
name,
so
act.
79
has
also
changed
that
to
24
hours,
so
the
people
who
receive
a
domestic
related
conviction
that
have
24
hours
to
turn.
It
turn
it
in
so
judge.
H
Commissioner
outlaw
has
actually
dedicated
or
identified
the
gun
permits
unit,
which
falls
under
the
detective
bureau
to
be
the
central
conduit.
So
as
we
have
one
person
or
a
handful
of
people
that
are
doing
this
every
day,
so
we
don't
drop
any
balls
in
the
middle,
so
the
gun
permits
unit
will
get.
This
information
then
coordinate
with
each
of
the
detected
divisions
as
to
where
the
the
offender
may
live
and
they'll
do
they'll
conduct
the
investigation
for
the
new
offense,
which
is
very
relinquished
to
fire
over
the
24
hours,
which
is
a
misdemeanor
offense.
H
Now,
so
that's
the
process.
Now
let
me
take
a
step
back
as
to
knowing
whether
or
not
somebody
has
a
firearm
or
doesn't
have
a
farm
in
pennsylvania.
It's
not
that
easy.
There
is
a
central.
There
is
no
centralized
database
per
se.
We
have
access
to
one
from
the
state,
but
if
it
covers
mostly
initial
purchases
and
sales,
so
you
buy
a
gun
at
a
gun
shop.
H
Now
all
that
stuff's
recorded,
however
secondary
sales,
shotguns
rifles
and
that
kind
of
stuff
are
very
difficult
to
track
and
also
like,
I
said
some
folks
have
illegal
guns
and
that's
completely
impossible
for
us
to
track.
I
just
I'm
just
throwing
this
out
there.
I
don't
know
if
anybody
wants
to
advocate,
maybe
at
a
state
level,
but
I
know
I
do
know
like
I
said
we
can't
go
into
someone's
house
once
they
have
a
pfa.
H
We
say:
oh,
we
think
you
have
a
gun
or
she
said
you
had
a
gun,
but
we
can't
find
a
gun
in
a
database.
We
just
can't
go
in
we'd.
Have
we
still
need
a
search
warrant?
Other
states-
and
I
do
know
for
a
fact,
new
jersey
when
they
issue
their
pfa.
It
also
has
attached
to
a
search
warrant
for
local
law
enforcement.
Actually,
regardless
of
what
you
may
say,
I
can
go
in
the
house
and
still
look
for
guns.
H
So
what
we
did
is
to
make
sure
that
there's
a
loophole,
not
I
wouldn't
call
it
a
loophole,
but
it's
just
we're
in
pennsylvania.
I
mean
pennsylvania
is
a
very
pro-gun
state,
so
it's
very
hard
to
get
any
concrete
information
on
the
guns.
So
what
we
did
is
in
the
agreement
between
myself
and
the
sheriffs.
H
The
sheriffs
are
the
ones
that
usually
go
out
to
the
knock
on
the
door
and
ask
people:
do
you
know
you
got
an
order?
Do
you
have
any
guns?
They
say?
Oh
no,
I
don't
have
any
guns.
Well,
they
can't
go
in
the
house.
Nor
can
I,
but
if
the
sheriffs,
they're
law
enforcement
professionals
like
police
department,
police
officers,
if
they
feel
that
something's
not
right-
and
they
often
can
we've
created
an
additional
mechanism
that
they
can
notify.
My
gun
permits
units
say,
listen,
something's,
not
right.
H
I
need
an
investigation
started,
so
we're
not
just
taking
the
fact
that
we
can't
find
anything
in
an
electronic
database.
We're
kind
of
making
sure
that
you
know
the
front
line.
Officers
are
out
on
the
knocking
on
doors.
They
have
any
suspicions
like
that
and
we
can
build
probable
cause
we'll
push
it
up
to
the
you
know,
da's
office,
for
a
search
warrant
and
we'll
we'll
go
forward,
so
we're
we're
really
coordinated
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
miss
anything.
H
B
You
did
francis,
and
I
want
to
commend
you
frank
and
commissioner,
outlaw
for
the
partnership
with
the
courts
and
the
sheriff's
department,
the
sheriff
she'll,
be
on
rochelle,
commissioner
sheriff
rochelle.
I
will
be
on
later
on
also
the
update
on
their
role,
but
I
just
want
to
commend
you
and
your
team
for
this
type
of
partnership.
That's
being
proactive,
that's
been
preventative
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
the
collaboration
is
key
in
addressing
this
type
of
issue,
so
it
does
stick
out
in
terms
of
your
presentation.
H
But
I
just
had
one
thing:
sorry,
I
just
wanted
one
thing:
I
I'd
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
say
this,
but
the
managing
director's
office
has
been
key
to
really
making
sure
this
collaboration
between
the
different
agencies
has
happened.
So
without
their
assistance
like
I
said
it
would
have
been
a
little
more
difficult.
So
I
do
appreciate
all
the
help
from
the
nba's
office.
B
B
F
F
So
I'm
interested
in
hearing
what
the
actual
numbers
are
on
the
collection.
So
I
understand
that
there's
a
process
and
there's
efforts
to
improve
coordination.
But
could
you
give
us
the
actual
numbers
for
2021
and
you
know
in
terms
2020
and
2021,
2020
and
2021
in
terms
of
the
numbers
of
guns
that
were
actually
collected.
H
I'm
sorry,
I
don't
have
those
direct
numbers
like
I
said
the
sheriff
most
likely
has
some
numbers.
I
don't
know
if
they're
prepared
to
give
numbers
today.
I
don't
think
that
was
the
basis
of
our
understanding
but
we'll
if
we
don't
have
them
today
for
I'll
work
with
the
sheriff's
office
to
get
whatever
we
have.
H
Well,
it's
not
necessarily
relinquishing
we
go
out
with
the
issuance
of
a
pfa
order.
What
happens
is
the
pfa
orders
are
issued
by
the
court
and
I
believe,
every
day
the
sheriff's
office
goes
picks
up
these
orders
and
then
they
have
a
process
of
then
going
out
and
serving
them
and
some
of
these
orders.
The
final
orders
all
now
because
of
accident,
have
a
relinquishment
order.
Now
other
orders,
not
every
order.
H
Pfa
order
comes
in
emergencies
and
temporaries,
not
every
one
of
them
has
a
a
relinquishing
order
unless
there's
an
issue
and
the
judge
orders
one
so
in
the
process
of
serving
that
order.
If
there
is
a
religion
order,
they'll
say:
listen,
you
have
to
relinquish
any
farm.
Do
you
have
any
firearms?
In
that
case
there,
the
individual
with
the
door
contact?
I'm
sorry,
I
don't.
I
don't
have
any
farms
and.
F
F
F
F
Ma'am,
okay,
thank
you
and
then
the
I
think
my
next
set
of
questions
is
about.
I
mean
I
guess
you
know
there
has
been
some
some
concern
about.
You
know
what
is
needed
to
improve
the
collection
of
these
firearms.
I
mean.
Obviously
everybody
wants
guns
off
the
street
and
if
we
actually
have
a
court
order
to
remove
guns
off
the
street,
we
want
to
be
able
to
execute
on
those
orders,
because
that's
actually
something
where
we
can
do
that
and
it's
mandated.
F
And
you
know
we
have
a
lot
of
leeway
to
do
that
and
of
course,
because
it
involves
vulnerable
families.
Could
you
speak
to
how
ppd's
practices
are
sp?
I
know
you
went
through
the
process,
but
could
you
speak
to
any
changes
or
improvements
that
are
made
to
improve
the
number
of
weapons
that
are
actually
relinquished
or
confiscated.
H
On
behalf,
like
I
said,
the
I
think
what's
important
is
the
process
that's
been
put
in
place
by
coordinating
the
gun
permits
unit
as
a
central
repository
between
the
agencies,
because,
if
a
gun,
if
we
believe
a
gun,
has
not
been
relinquished,
we
are
now
actively
creating
a
criminal
investigation.
We're
not
just
letting
it
sit
there.
Well,
frank
healey
didn't
turn
on
a
gun.
H
You
know
applied
for
with
the
district
attorney's
office,
which
will
allow
us
to
go
in
the
house
and
hopefully
recover
the
guns
that
people
have
failed
to
relinquish.
So
I
do
hope
in
the
in
the
future
that
we
will
be
able
to.
Hopefully,
people
will
start
really
sending
in
the
guns
voluntarily
then
having
us
go,
get
them
and
then
lock
them
up
in
the
process.
So
hopefully.
A
Yeah,
I
would
have
to
look
into
those
investigations
and
I'll
get
it
to
inspector
hillary
to
get
over
to
it,
but
I'm
I'm
not
sure
we
do
get
notified
they'll
go
to
the
domestic
violence
teams
they
handle.
You
know
thousands
of
domestic
violence
investigations
per
year
and
that
could
be
anything
from
an
assault
or
threat
to
harassment.
All
the
way
up,
so
I'll
take
a
look
at
those
and
see
if
we
could
discern
which
ones
were
connected
to
these
and
make
sure
we
let
you
know.
F
Okay,
thank
you,
that's
very
helpful
and,
as
I
said,
you
know,
I
don't
expect
it
right
now,
but
if
we
could
just
have
it
send
over
to
the
chair,
that
would
help
a
lot,
because
you
know
we
obviously
want
you
to
be
successful
on
this
and
are
interested
if
there
are
any
problems
or
gaps,
how
we
can
improve
on
all
of
that.
So
my
next
set
of
questions
is
a
little
bit
about.
You
know
how
how
the
police
department
is
responding
to
the
inter
intimate
partner
violence
calls.
H
I
I
know
that
the
information
is
tracked
by
police
rate.
I
don't
know
if
it's
if
it's
tracked
by
the
offense
type
per
se,
I'd
have
to
check
with
deputy
commissioner
calter.
I
really
don't
know.
I
know
we
do
track
the
time.
The
call
comes
in
the
time
it's
dispatched
and
the
response
time,
but
I
I
don't
know
if
it's
tracked
that
way,
but
that's
a
very,
very
good
question.
I
will
ask.
F
A
I'm
sure
we
have
that
within
the
homicide
files,
that's
something
I
would
have
to
have
researched
to
give
you
if
there
was
a
protection
order.
We
always
kind
of
look
back
at
these
incidents
to
see
what
we
knew.
In
some
cases,
we
knew
nothing.
There
were
no
product
calls
not
even
a
a
disturbance
that
we
had
and
in
other
cases
there
was
a
previous
arrest
where
the
person
was
arrested
for
assaulting
the
same
individual.
A
F
To
say
no,
I
would
I
would
probably
look
at
2017
to
2021.
I
mean
you
want
to
do
it
over
a
range
of
time
and
in
part,
it's
because
you
know
in
it's
not
completely
related,
but
somewhat
I
mean
you
know
our
colleague
councilmember
jones
does
a
hundred
shooter
review.
You
know
that
was
very
informative.
It
helps
us
identify
gaps
in
the
city
of
philadelphia.
We
pass
a
law
that
has
us
look
at
you
know,
for
example,
settlements
and
payouts
and
we're
looking
for
openings
and
patterns.
F
Thank
you,
that's
very
helpful.
You
know,
we've
personally,
you
know
been
dealing
with
a
terrible
situation
involving
and
a
young
woman
whose
family
was
you
know
her
children
were
assaulted
and
everything,
but
you
know
it
sounded
like
there
were
problems
before
and
so
we're
just
trying
to
understand
a
little
better.
What
data
do
we
have
do
we
track
and
how
can
we
improve?
F
I
think
my
other
question
is
a
little
bit.
My
colleagues
and
I
invested
very
heavily
in
dbh
ids's
mobile
crisis
units.
We're
heavily
invested
in
9-1-1
dispatch.
Doing
you
know
being
newly
trained
around
you
know.
The
mental
health
response
calls
that
we're
doing
this
is
important
work.
I
know
it's
critical
work
for
all
of
you
at
the
department
you
know
and
inspector
healy.
I
think
you
talked
a
little
bit
about
that.
H
That's
the
model
here
in
philadelphia,
like
I
said
we
we
think
of
cit
as
much
broader
than
mental
health.
It's
people
in
crisis,
which
is
like
I
said
what's
most
important,
is
how
the
officer
and
the
individual,
when
they
react
at
that
moment
in
time,
so
whether
it's
mental
health
or
crisis
for
another
reason
really
honestly
doesn't
matter
it's
how
the
officer
responds
to
the
crisis,
so
we
we've
never
stopped
at
the
25
25
mark.
So
we
have
a
class.
H
We
had
we
had
to
break
them
down
like
15
with
the
code
which
restrictions,
but
it's
important
to
say
that
with
our
cit
folks,
there's
a
lot
of
other
police
agencies
in
philadelphia
that
we
interact
with
and
a
lot
of
those
folks
have
asked
to
be
a
part
of
our
cit.
So
I
make
available
so
many
seats
in
every
class
for
either
a
university
of
penn
temple
septa
or
any
other
law
enforcement
agencies
that
really
want
to
be
a
part
I'll
make
that
accommodation
for
them.
But
we
have
quite
a
few.
H
H
Well,
it
raises
a
good
point:
some
people
argue
that
this
should
be
mandatory.
If
it's
so
great,
the
issue
is
in
the
cit
model,
I
mean
we're
replicating
a
model
and
there
is
actually
a
cit
international.
This
is
not
just
a
philadelphia
program.
We
have
never.
It
is
a
voluntary
program
up
front,
but
we
have
never
had
a
shortage
of
officers
since
2007..
H
So
on
that
premise,
it's
it's.
You
know
set
back
having
people
in
a
class
that
want
to
be
in
a
class
like
I
said,
because
this
is
very
intense
training
and
we
really
go
through
a
lot
of
scenario.
Training.
These
are
officers
that
want
to
step
up
and
we've
never
had
a
shortage
of
them.
If
that
time
came
where
we
didn't
have
officers
volunteering,
we
would
revisit
the
mandatory
concept
of
it,
but
the
people
that
trained
do
this
training
is
not
philadelphia
police
officers.
H
Actually,
I'm
the
only
police
officer
that
actually
speaks
to
the
individuals,
it's
all
outside
individuals
who
have
really
bought
into
the
cit
model
of
volunteers,
and
they
really
enjoy
the
quality
of
the
class
because
they
are
volunteers.
So
right
now
we
we've
have
classes
every
every
month.
I
have
30
some
odd
officers
chomping
at
the
bit.
They
get
in
the
class.
So
until
that
time,
that
we
don't
have
any
then
we'll
revisit
well
voluntary
versus
mandatory.
H
It's
not
well
see.
Certifications
are
problematic,
sometimes
good,
if
suddenly,
after
two
years,
you're
you're
still
able
to
de-escalate
things.
So
what
we
do
is
we.
We
have
a
two.
We
have
a
refresher
requirement
so
we'll
what
we
do
is
we.
We
use
a
certain
model
for
the
de-escalation,
so
every
two
years
officers
will
get
a
refresher
just
bringing
it
to
the
forefront
of
you
know
the
whole
process
that
we
use
for
de-escalation.
We
use
a
very
simple
model,
but
it's
very
effective
and
it
mirrors
really
how
they
handle
most
assignments.
H
So
it's
been
incredibly
effective,
so
we'll
do
a
refresher
and
then,
if
there's
any
like
hot
button
issues
for
the
last
couple
years,
it's
been.
You
know
obviously
returning
events
and
making
sure
that
my
officers
are
in
tuned
with
the
special
needs
of
that
population.
But
yeah
we
have
a
two-year
refresher
requirement.
Okay,.
F
H
Domestic
violence
specifically
no,
but
we're
talking
to
bigger
pictures
of
crisis,
so
the
we
we
have
in
some
of
the
scenarios
that
we
do.
There
are
domestic
related
scenarios,
but
we
don't
necessarily
distinguish
the
crisis
between
a
domestic
related
crisis
versus
a
mental
health
related
crisis.
So
the
answer
is
not
specifically
the
answer.
No,
but
it's.
The
issue
of
crisis
is
covers
all
the
gambit
of
all
the
crises
that
my
officers
are
will
potentially
face.
H
F
F
H
H
Right
now,
it's
only
a
four,
as
we've
mentioned
in
other
hearings,
the
chief
inspector
cram
has
creating
the
new
behavioral
health
unit
that
will
be
rolling.
This
whole
process,
in
addition
to
our
police,
assisted
diversion
program,
so
he'll
be
expanding
it
in
the
near
future.
When
promotions
can
be
made.
H
H
Well,
I
I
can't
speak
out
at
school.
I
believe
it's
rather
I
mean
this
is
a
priority
of
the
police
commissioner.
So
the
issue
is
right
now,
just
with
the
shortage
of
personnel
that
we
have
is
when
we
make
promotions,
we
have
a
sufficient
people
that
we
can
dedicate
to
the
program,
but
the
chief
has
already
said:
he'd
make
accommodations
with
his
own
bureau
to
make
sure
he
could
stamp
this
unit
to
get
it
up
and
running
as
soon
as
possible.
H
But
if
I
can
touch
about
your
other
subject
very
quickly
with
the
police,
radio
and
our
partners
with
behavioral
health
and
intellectual
disabilities,
they
have
embedded
and
will
be
embedding
in
future
navigators
within
our
police
radio.
Those
navigators
are
in
a
perfect
world.
We
don't
need
a
police
response
to
every
call
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
how
do
you
differentiate?
What
where
are
police
officers
needed?
And
how
do
you
different
somebody
else,
so
we
actually
are
going
to
be
embedded
crisis.
H
Crisis-Trained
civilians
from
dbhids
will
be
embedded
with
the
additional
skills
that
we
might
be
able
to
offshoot.
Some
of
these
calls
to
an
individual
navigator.
Who
can
then
try
to
negotiate,
not
negotiate
but
speak
with
these
individuals
to
see
what
they
actually
need
now,
if
they
actually
need
a
police
response,
they're
in
police
radio?
It's
just
you
know,
push
the
button
and
cops
are
on
their
way,
but
the
other
avenue
is
this.
I
know
dr
bowen
is
doing.
H
I
don't
want
to,
I
hope,
my
folks,
my
partners
don't
take
this
the
wrong
way,
but
we
need
an
awful
lot.
Okay,
we
have
meetings
and
multiple
meetings,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
coordination
and
the
managing
director's
office
is
really
key,
connecting
us
together
and
is
actually
a
big
part
of
this
coordination
and
collaboration.
F
Yeah,
so
a
number
of
us
have
been
really
supportive
of
this
area
and
we
want
to
keep
working
with
with
all
of
with
you.
We
we
work
very
closely
with
dbhids,
but
you
know.
We
believe
that
we
were
able
to
get
again
this
number
of
four,
which
is
very
small,
but
four
mobile
mental
health
crisis
response
units
off
the
ground
with
dbhids,
and
you
know
it's
certainly
our
belief
that
we
could
probably
do
four
per
police
district
at
this
point.
F
F
A
I
could
I
could
get
you
that
I
don't
know
if
I
have
that,
but
just
looking
looking
back,
it's
not
just
one
detective
in
many
of
the
divisions,
it's
it's
two
teams,
so
it
would
be
up
to
four
detectives
in
some
of
the
divisions
and-
and
it
fluctuates-
I
mean
in
some
of
the
divisions
it
could
go
from
being
just
over
a
thousand
cases
per
year
to
other
divisions
where
they
have
several
thousand
and
when
I
say
cases
like
I
said
some
of
these
could
be
stalking.
They
could
involve.
A
You
know:
unwanted
text
messages,
social
media.
You
know,
threats
all
the
way
up
to
an
actual
physical
assault
or
an
argument
or
something
that
brought
them
into
the
detective
division.
So
they're
there
we
do.
I
do
have
some
numbers
on
investigations
that
I
could
send
you
and
break
it
up
to
how
many
those
teams
handle
if
they
get
overwhelmed.
Some
of
them
investigations
could
be
shifted
to
our
what
we
call
our
line
squad
or
the
other
investigators
that
work
in
that
division
to
assist.
But
we
try
to
prioritize
those.
A
F
B
B
G
Sorry,
johnson,
mr
chair,
yes,
I
just
had
one
question
and
I
apologize.
I
was
having
a
technical
issue
and
you
might
have
answered
this
because
I
lost
service
for
a
second
but
first
of
all
good
morning,
inspector
haley,
as
well
as
of
the
other
officers
involved.
Thank
you
for
your
service,
I'm
wondering
when
we're
talking
about
domestic
violence,
and
I
heard
how
you
now
categorize
it,
which
is
very
informative.
G
We
in
violence
in
general,
we've
seen
an
uptick
in
a
number
of
young
people
who
commit
the
crimes
as
well
as
the
victims.
So
I'm
wondering
in
the
midst
of
you
analyzing
the
numbers:
do
we
see
an
increase
in
the
impact
it
has
on
our
children,
whether
they're
the
victim,
the
culprit
or
the
person
experiencing
the
trauma
that
that
is
my
only
question?
I
apologize
for
the
delay,
mr
chair.
B
A
Will
well
one
of
the
things
I
want
to
say
is:
I
talked
a
lot
about
specialization
and
when
it
comes
to
children
and
domestic
violence,
those
cases
are
handled
by
our
special
victims
unit,
not
the
divisional
detectives.
Now
these
these
detectives
are
all
very
specially
trained
and
handle
on
that
they're
co-located,
as
you
know,
with
dhs,
so
we're
we're
working
hand
in
hand
with
children's
alliance.
When
interviews
have
to
be
done,
especially
with
small
children,
we
always
we
follow
the
the
best
practices
we
give
them
some
time.
A
You
know
a
lot
of
our
third
party
reports
decreased
during
that
time,
because
people
were
isolated,
but
normally
in
pre-pandemic
years
we
have
a
lot
of
third-party
reports,
talking
about
children
being
victimized
or
children
being
subject
to
this
kind
of
violence,
and
we
immediately
start
an
investigation
and
make
sure
that
we
cover
all
bases.
So
in
these
things,
some
of
it
dropped
during
the
pandemic,
and
that
may
be
just
because
we're
reports
dropped
so
we're
constantly
doing
follow-up
and
making
sure
that
our
partners
are
all
in
line.
A
B
You,
mr
chair,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
councilman
isaiah,
thomas
any
other
questions
or
comments
from
members
of
the
committee
for
this
panel.
Okay,
hearing,
none.
Thank
you
frank
and
thank
you
francis
for
your
presentation
very,
very
informative,
and
could
you
frank,
please
make
sure
you
follow
with
the
information
requested
by
councilman
helen
kim
from
members
of
the
committee.
E
A
C
I
Hi,
thank
you
good
morning,
chairman
and
council
members.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
with
you
today.
My
name
is
spencer
cantrell
and
I'm
the
director
of
federal
affairs
at
the
educational
fund
to
stop
gun
violence.
Prior
to
this
role,
I
was
the
legal
and
advocacy
director
for
a
domestic
violence
organization
that
served
the
greater
washington
region,
including
dc
maryland
and
virginia.
I
I
wanted
to
share
today
a
few
best
practices,
emerging
trends
and
innovative
ideas
to
improve
services
for
victims
and
survivors
of
domestic
violence
at
the
ed
fund.
We
work
with
several
jurisdictions
around
the
country
to
identify
gaps
and
services
and
how
to
improve
the
continuum
of
services
for
survivors,
often
like
the
first
panel
discussed
through
collaboration
and
communication
among
service
providers.
We
know
that
firearms
and
domestic
violence
are
a
lethal
combination.
I
Research
has
shown
that
access
to
firearms
is
one
of
the
most
significant
risk
factors
for
domestic
violence.
Homicide
ensuring
that
firearms
are
taken
away
from
all
abusers
is
critical
to
protecting
survivors
law
enforcement
and
entire
communities,
since
research
shows
that
domestic
users
are
more
likely
to
commit,
mass
shootings
and
law
enforcement
killed
in
the
line
of
duty
are
most
often
killed
by
domestic
abusers.
I
I
And
I'll
I'll
keep
going
while
they're
pulling
that
up
so
keep
going.
No,
I
know
how
technology
is
so.
Additionally,
there
also
need
to
be
a
clear
processes
and
procedures
for
ensuring
that
law
enforcement
complete
a
thorough
investigation
when
a
firearm
is
purportedly
possessed
too
often.
In
my
experience,
have
law
enforcement
taken
a
respondent
at
their
word
with
lethal
consequences.
I
There
are
some
additional
recommendations
I
would
make
in
one
jurisdiction
where
I
previously
practiced
the
judge's
worksheet
for
issuing
domestic
violence
protection
orders
had
the
firearms
removal
box
pre-checked
this
preempted
the
possibility
of
deadly
clerical
errors.
The
ad
fund
has
also
seen
jurisdictions
experience
success
when
the
judiciary
regularly
holds
review
hearings
to
ensure
that
the
pfa
is
being
followed
and
that
respondents
have
in
fact
surrendered
their
firearms.
I
These
status
hearings
can
can
really
be
empowering
for
survivors
as
well.
The
state
of
pennsylvania
has
already
made
great
strides
and
improving
service
delivery,
as
was
discussed
about
act,
79,
the
creation
of
pfed,
increased
coordination
and
communication
among
service
providers,
but
more
can
be
done
to
improve
collaboration
if
an
order
is
served
or
if
law
enforcement
are
having
issues
with
the
service
of
process.
The
ongoing
communication
between
law
enforcement
and
survivors,
often
with
the
assistance
of
victim
assistance
or
advocates,
is
critical
to
ensuring
that
those
orders
are
in
place.
I
One
possible
strategy
to
assist
with
notification
of
victims
is
the
vine
protective
order
system
which
automatically
sends
survivors
text
emails
or
phone
calls
to
inform
them
when
an
order's
been
served
or
firearms
relinquished,
so
they
can
safety
plan
accordingly,
often
with
trained
advocates,
and
I
have
a
link
to
more
information
about
the
prep
vine
protective
order
system.
In
my
written
testimony
since
leaving
an
abusive
relationship
is
often
the
most
dangerous
time,
this
notice
is
imperative
for
effective
safety
planning.
I
I'd
also
note
that
the
city
of
philadelphia
is
richly
diverse
and
like
other
communities,
it
is
important
to
pay
special
attention
to
ensuring
that
survive
services
are
accessible
to
all
members
of
the
community.
Some
community
members
may
be
reticent
to
report
abuse
to
law
enforcement
for
a
variety
of
well-documented
and
understandable
reasons.
I
I
Last
night,
the
u.s
senate
passed
the
violence
against
women
act
reauthorization
and
the
2022
omnimas
budget
bill.
There
are
many
great
highlights
in
this
legislation,
including
services
for
survivors
who
were
incarcerated
and
returning
to
their
communities
specific
attention
to
marginalized
communities
and
exploring
restorative
justice
as
a
potential
means
of
addressing
domestic
violence.
These
are
all
best
and
emerging
practices.
I
wanted
to
flag
for
you
today.
I
Additionally,
even
those
who
are
not
culturally
specific
providers,
including
law
enforcement
judges,
district
attorneys
and
victim
advocates,
should
demonstrate
a
commitment
to
delivering
culturally
responsive
services
and
being
equitable,
as
well
as
ongoing
training
to
ensure
that
services
are
culturally
responsive
to
meet
the
needs
of
survivors.
Thank
you
for
sharing
this
attachment
on
the
screen.
I
Another
remedy
that
might
be
outside
the
scope
of
what
philadelphia
can
consider
but
worth
exploring
as
a
state
are
extreme
risk
protective
orders.
Urpo
laws
vary
by
state,
but
they
allow
other
individuals,
such
as
law
enforcement
or
mental
health
professionals
to
petition
to
have
firearms
removed
temporarily,
while
someone
is
undergoing
a
period
of
crisis,
urpos
are
modeled
after
domestic
violence
restraining
orders
and
could
serve
to
be
quite
useful
in
other
cases
where
firearms
need
to
be
removed.
I
B
J
J
The
national
coalition
against
domestic
violence
has
made
this
a
priority
for
the
past
eight
years,
which
is
whatever
we're
going
to
do
to
address
the
issue
of
firearms
and
domestic
violence.
We
are
there
in
policy
program
and
projects,
as
spencer
outlined.
The
lethality
that
can
occur
is
disturbing
and
without
going
into
a
whole
lot
of
data,
which
spencer
did
a
very
good
job
covering.
J
We
have
got
to
do
better
at
ensuring
that
survivors
are
safe
from
firearms,
and
that
includes
enforcement
of
laws.
That
includes
removal.
That
includes
also
making
sure
that
entities
have
resources
to
be
able
to
do
that.
What
we
hear
most
frequently,
though,
though
we
encourage
people
to
find
ways
to
make
it
happen,
is
the
inability
to
enforce
the
inability
to
store.
You
know
the
list
goes
on
and
on
so
on
two
levels.
J
We
will
continue
our
efforts,
which
is
closing
the
gap
of
the
boyfriend
loophole
and
then
making
sure
that
jurisdictions
communities
can
respond
in
a
way
that
is
survivor-centric,
making
sure
that
there
is
no
further
risk
in
domestic
violence.
Domestic
violence
is
harmful
as
it
is
when
you
introduce
a
firearm
into
a
situation
in
which
an
abuser
is
hurting
someone
and
it
becomes
can
become
lethal
pretty
quickly.
J
We
will
continue
to
do
what
we
can
as
a
national
coalition,
particularly
on
policy
and
ensuring
that
that
gap
is
closed
and
that
it
further
assists
local
jurisdictions
and
communities
and
how
they
can
respond
to
this,
because
we
know
that
it's
very
difficult.
So
what
can
we
do
from
a
national
pursuit.
J
K
Yes
good
thank
you
for
inviting
me
to
join
you
today.
I've
conducted
research
on
violence
against
women,
gun
violence
and
the
intersection
of
the
two
for
over
three
decades
and
since
coming
to
philadelphia
and
the
university
of
pennsylvania.
After
being
at
the
ucla
school
of
public
health,
I've
worked
with
local
government
agencies
and
non-profit
organizations
to
better
understand
what
they
and
the
women
of
philadelphia
face.
K
What
I'm
going
to
be
saying
this
morning
is
a
somewhat
shorter
version
of
the
written
testimony
that
was
provided
to
you,
okay
and
I'm
going
to
offer
four
items
for
your
consideration
this
morning.
That
will
focus
on
women's
lives
as
well
as
their
deaths,
and
each
is
predicated
on
you,
encouraging
city
agencies
to
implement
and
enforce
the
existing
policies
regarding
guns,
domestic
violence
and
the
use
of
guns
in
domestic
violence.
K
First
encourage,
if
not
in
direct
law
enforcement
agencies,
responding
to
domestic
violence
incidents
to
ask
whether
a
gun
is
involved.
I'll,
explain
why
that's
important,
but
second
improve
information,
collection
and
dissemination.
For
example,
the
gun
record,
keeping
by
the
philadelphia
police
department
and
the
domestic
violence
and
gun
case
tracking
within
the
district
attorney's
office,
third,
to
allocate
funding
for
the
development
and
evaluation
of
gun,
relinquished
procedures
related
to
domestic
violence
sounds
like
there's
some
good
ones
in
place.
We
need
to
know
if
they're
working
as
designed
and
fourth
to
advocate
for
policy
changes.
K
For
example,
pennsylvania
does
not
have
a
law
specific
to
intimate
partner,
violence,
misdemeanor
assault
which
is
directly
relevant
to
the
dv
gun
laws,
and
I'll
come
back
to
that.
The
previous
speakers
have
talked
about
the
two
federal
laws
on
misdemeanors
for
domestic
violence
and
for
restraining
orders
known
in
philadelphia
and
pennsylvania
as
protection
from
abuse
orders.
So
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
that.
K
K
K
These
laws
have
important
implications
and
it's
relatively
easy
to
implement
and
enforce
the
purchase
restrictions
on
firearms
that
are
related
to
domestic
violence,
but,
like
I
said,
pennsylvania
makes
it
a
bit
harder
by
not
having
a
law
specific
to
the
intimate
partner
violence
changing.
That
is
one
of
my
recommendations
to
you.
K
If
someone's
instructed
to
relinquish
their
vehicle
authorities
can
check
registration
to
see
if
they
did.
But
there
is
not
a
registry
for
guns,
so
courts
can
tell
an
abuser
to
relinquish
guns
but
have
no
way
to
check
whether
that
actually
happens,
and
it's
also
not
clear
where
the
abusers
are
are
ordered
to
do
so.
K
K
A
few
years
ago
that
conducted
research
about
gun,
use
and
domestic
violence
incidents
that
were
sponsored
by
philadelphia
police
officers
and
I'm
delighted
to
be
here
today
with
inspector
fran
healy,
because
he
was
one
of
the
people
who
helped
facilitate
that.
Had
it's
been
referred
or
referenced
earlier
with
deputy
commissioner
kat
fox
work
that
began
under
commissioner
ramsey
and
a
curry
continued
under
ross.
Okay,
the
work
was
difficult
because
officers
in
the
field
did
not
have
hand-held
devices
and
paper
forms
were
the
sole
source
of
information
about
the
incidents.
K
That
said
through
our
work,
we
learned
that
the
philadelphia
police
officers
responded
to
more
than
35
000
incidents
of
intimate
partner
violence
in
the
city
in
one
year.
A
great
majority
of
the
incidents
involve
no
external
weapon.
That
is
no
knife,
no
bat,
no
gun,
no
any
other
object,
but
when
an
external
weapon
was
used,
however,
one
every
three
of
those
weapons
was
a
gun.
K
K
Pennsylvania
mandates,
the
removal
of
weapons
at
the
scene
of
domestic
violence
under
certain
circumstances
and
our
patrol
officers
don't
do
a
very
good
job
of
that.
According
to
the
reports
that
the
department
policy
mandates
them
to
complete
and
file,
maybe
they
actually
do
do
a
good
job,
but
their
documentation
of
it
could
be
improved.
K
That's
another
recommendation.
Do
what's
in
your
power
and
authority
to
improve
information
about
guns
and
intimate
partner
violence
when
it
comes
to
the
city
agencies
such
as
the
police
department,
the
district
attorney's
office
and,
hopefully
the
courts
that
includes
gathering
information
within
those
units
and
disseminating
it
outside
them
with
more
complete
knowledge,
you
and
others
can
make
better
decisions.
K
K
B
L
B
Advocating
with
our
congressional
representatives
to
be
to
pay
attention
to
what
just
took
place
yesterday
in
terms
of
the
violence
against
women
neck
passing,
but
yet
the
exclusion
of
the
boyfriend
component
excluded.
So
any
recommend
additional
recommendations
that
you
think
we
can
advocate
for
from
a
city
level.
One
up.
J
J
If
we're
asking
the
right
questions,
which
is,
I
know,
you're
very
upset
right
now.
Is
there
a
gun
in
the
home?
Too
often
we
react
when
something
lethal
has
happened,
or
it's
escalated
to
a
point
where
we're
fearful
that
someone's
going
to
quote
unquote
die,
but
the
terror
and
the
trauma
that
happens
when
a
gun
is
present
and
there's
domestic
violence
cannot
be
measured.
Quite
frankly,
you
see
a
lot
more.
J
So
the
recommendations
that
susan
has
made
dr
sorensen
has
made
are
are
right
on
point
and
they
really
are
from
a
preventive
perspective
and
really
talking
about
what
does
it
mean
to
to
those
that
are
impacted
in
domestic
violence
situations
where
somebody
is
hurting
another
person
and
there's
a
gun
present
as
a
survivor
of
gun,
violence
and
domestic
violence?
I'll?
Let
you
know
that
it?
You
know
just
having
the
presence.
There
was
more
trauma
than
some
instances
of
the
physical
violence.
J
Quite
frankly,
just
knowing
that
the
quick
pull
of
a
trigger
can
end
your
life
is
all
you
need
for
an
abuser
to
have
control
so
other
than
what
what
dr
sorensen
has
outlined
and
spencer
has
talked
about
and
from
a
prevention
angle.
I
I
think
those
are
fantastic
and
in
fact
I
support
those
recommendations
wholly.
B
Thank
you
and
spencer.
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
your
recommendations
as
well.
One
thing
that
really
stuck
out
is
in
regards
to
the
social
equity
component
and
really
people
dive
on
who's
actually
receiving
on
the
level
of
support
and
services,
which
I
think
is
very
very,
very,
very
critically
important,
particularly
when
you,
when
it
comes
to
addressing
this
issue,
any
level
of
attention,
that's
giving
you
most
important
level
of
urgency
right,
not
just
something
that
you
get
a
phone.
Call
that
oh
well,
you
know
we're.
You
know
just
part
of
itself.
B
G
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
chairman,
two
quick
questions
on
one
is
statistical.
How
many
pfas
protection
from
abuse
orders
get
ignored
throughout
the
system?
If
there
are
statistics
on
that,
that's
number
one,
and
then
how
do
we
in
all
murders
are
not
the
same?
One
size
does
not
fit
all
and
some
of
them
you
can
predict
more
easily
than
others.
When
we
see
back
and
forth
facebook
beef
between
rival
neighborhoods,
you
can
predict
that
there
might
be
retaliatory
strikes
throughout
return,
retaliation
and
shootings.
K
I'll
just
weigh
in
here
to
say
that
I
don't
even
know
if
we
know
how
many
pfas
are
issued,
let
alone
ignored.
I've
been
interested
in
doing
work
on
pfas
here
in
philadelphia
and
the
way
things
are
written.
Researchers
are
specifically
prohibited
from
using
any
of
the
information
in
the
databases,
that's
what
pennsylvania
law
says
and
that's
how
the
policy
has
been
interpreted.
K
So
I
would
love
to
be
able
to
answer
those
questions.
I
did
work
on
hundreds
of
thousands
of
pfas
when
I
was
in
california,
and
I
could
tell
you
how
many
had
guns.
I
could
tell
you
by
linking
gun
databases
that
california
had
how
many
were
getting
guns
while
they
were
under
a
pfa
pennsylvania
does
not
have
either
of
those
things.
K
California
is
sort
of
unique
in
the
way,
but
that
information
this
isn't
available.
So
I
can't
answer
any
any
of
your
questions.
Maybe
somebody
I
mean
that's
part
of
my
recommendation
to
you
all
to
say
to
encourage
you
to
say:
you've
got
to
increa
improve
your
tracking
within
the
da's
office
department
and
the
court
system
to
be
able
to
address
questions,
because
we
don't
have
that
vital
information
at
this
point
in
time.
G
As
a
father
as
a
father
of
daughters
as
a
brother,
two
sisters
you
get
caught
up
in
that
whole,
you
know
he
says
he
loves
me
abuse
cycle
and
it's
almost
frustrating
to
see.
Often-
and
I
don't
have
statistical
validation
for
this,
but
how
often
some
guys
say
you
know,
I
don't
care
what
you
write,
I'm
going
here
for
a
number
of
false
reasons
that
they
claim
and
all
of
them
are
emotional.
G
B
K
C
B
K
Okay,
the
first
image
that
I
want
to
show
you
is
a
cartoon
by
pulitzer
prize,
the
late
pulitzer
prize
women
named
tony
off,
who
is
with
the
philadelphia
inquirer
for
many
many
years,
and
the
idea
of
trying
to
solve
the
gun.
Violence
problem
we're
all
coming
at
from
different
angles,
and
that
was
an
important
thing,
because
the
police,
officers
and
inspectors
started
by
saying
this
is
a
small
portion
of
the
gun,
violence
problem,
which
is
absolutely
right
in
terms
of
fatalities.
K
K
I
then
go
on
and
provide
the
information
of
what
I
think
is
important
to
define
it,
but
I
also
provide
it
in
the
way
that
everybody
else
thinks
about
it.
What
regular
people
think
about
what
policy
members
think
about
it?
So
when
we
talk
about
domestic
violence,
most
people
think
intimate
partners,
they
don't
think
roommates,
they
don't
think
causes,
and
all
of
that-
and
so
we
are
have
been
at
this
impasse
for
a
long
long
time.
When
we
ask
for
information
from
law
enforcement
about
this,
they
provide
a
huge
range,
because
that's
what
law
enforcement?
K
C
K
K
B
Okay,
I'm
sorry,
I
I
had
to
miss
communication
in
the
chat
all
right
if
there
is
no
questions
or
comments
from
any
additional
questions
or
comments
from
members
of
the
panel.
I
want
to
thank
all
of
you
for
this
very,
very
informative
presentation,
very
informative
testimony
and
we're
going
to
do
a
deep
dive
and
see
how
we
can
follow
up
on
some
of
these
recommendations
that
are
within
our
power.
And
so
thank
you
and
keep
fighting
a
good
fight.
L
L
I
have
a
colleague
here
with
me:
elise
sosha,
our
policy
director
and
chief
of
staff,
and
we
are
honored
to
be
here
today
on
behalf
of
women
against
abuse
and
the
survivors
of
domestic
violence
we
serve.
I
want
to
thank
councilmember
johnson,
as
well
as
all
the
members
of
the
special
committee
of
gun,
violence
prevention
for
calling
this
hearing
and
inviting
women
against
abuse
to
participate.
L
The
importance
of
this
hearing
and
the
connection
between
gun
violence
and
domestic
violence
cannot
be
overstated.
Gun
violence
in
philadelphia
is
no
secret,
but
domestic
violence
still
seems
to
be.
We
hear
about
shootings
and
homicides
regularly
on
the
news,
but
until
becomes
fatal.
Rarely
do
we
hear
about
the
many
insidious
incidents
of
domestic
violence
that
are
happening
in
our
homes
in
our
community
every
day.
L
Intimate
partner
violence
is
incredibly
common,
the
impacts
one
in
four
women
and
one
in
ten
men
here
in
philadelphia
on
average,
the
police
receive
more
than
100
000
calls
domestic
related
costs
to
9-1-1
each
year.
That
is
almost
300
a
day
with
rising
rates
of
violence
in
our
city.
It
is
no
surprise
that
domestic
violence
homicides
have
also
increased
according
to
the
philadelphia
inquirer.
The
number
of
homicides
classified
as
domestic
violence
in
our
city
has
more
than
doubled
this
year
from
18
domestic
violence,
homicides
in
2020
to
42
in
2021.
L
This
is
the
highest
levels
of
domestic
violence:
homicides
in
philadelphia's
recent
history,
at
least
since
2008,
when
women
against
the
bus
began
tracking
it
guns,
are
the
primary
cause
of
domestic
violence.
Homicide
nearly
1
million
women
alive
today
have
been
shot
or
been
shot
at
by
an
intimate
partner,
and
black
women
are
twice
likely
to
be
fatally
shot
by
an
intimate
partner
compared
to
white
women.
L
The
use
of
a
gun
to
threaten
a
partner
is
a
key
predictor
of
lethality,
while
the
city
searches
for
solutions
to
rising
levels
of
gun
violence
in
our
community.
We
would
be
remiss
not
to
prioritize
and
support
efforts
to
prevent
domestic
violence,
as
means
to
reduce
overall
gun
violence,
and
vice
versa.
Efforts
to
prevent
gun
violence
will
reduce
the
overall
prevalence
of
domestic
violence
in
our
community.
L
In
our
safer
program,
educating
our
youth,
our
young
people
in
our
schools
about
healthy
relationships
about
non-violent
communications
and
warning
signs
of
abuse
gun
violence
is
preventable.
Domestic
violence
is
preventable.
Today's
hearing
is
a
critical
piece
of
advocacy
and
we
hope
it
is
just
the
start
of
a
conversation
about
the
intersection
of
these
two
evils.
L
D
Although
our
services
are
directly
connected
to
preventing
sexual
harassment,
assault
and
abuse
and
supporting
survivors
of
rape
and
sexual
assault,
our
clients
lives
have
been
greatly
impacted
by
the
ongoing
gun
violence
that
is
occurring
in
our
city
over
ninety
percent
of
the
survivors
we
support
are
women
and
girls.
Our
survivors
are
afraid
to
leave
their
homes
and
travel
to
attend
their
much
needed
therapy
sessions.
D
Specializes
in
supporting
victims
of
trauma
gun
violence
is
one
of
the
most
traumatic
incidents
that
any
human
being
can
experience
or
witness
for
the
40
women
who
lost
their
lives
in
2020
and
the
60
women
who
lost
their
lives
in
2021,
no
amount
of
words
can
be
said
to
any
of
their
loved
ones.
That
will
enable
the
family
members
of
these
women
to
have
closure
and
move
forward
with
their
lives.
These
women
were
mothers,
sisters,
daughters,
nieces
and
friends,
and
of
the
survivors
which
we
serve
at
war.
D
D
What
I'm
very
concerned
about
is
that
the
images
of
shootings
shown
in
the
media
and
other
public
spaces,
and
particularly
the
shooting
and
killing
of
women
and
girls,
is
normalizing
this
level
of
violence
towards
women
and
girls
in
our
city
to
combat
violence
with
women
and
girls
in
general.
We
have
a
healthy
masculinity
initiative
at
war
and
I'm
also
going
to
just
give
acknowledgement
and
honor
to
dr
susan
sorensen,
who
is
a
guru
when
it
comes
to
the
research.
D
Dr
sorensen
noted
that
this
issue
is
not
just
about
us
gun
violence
towards
women.
It's
smaller!
It's
just
a
piece
we're
at
the
point
now
that
we
need
to
dive
deeper
and
try
to
figure
out
ways
to
better
combat
how
these
public
images
and
the
constant
viewing
of
them
by
children
and
youth.
This
is
being
glorified
at
this
particular
point
and
I
do
again
an
acknowledgement
to
what
joanna
has
already
said.
We
have
programming
and
I
believe
that
a
lot
of
programming
needs
to
happen,
but
there
also
needs
to
be
a
space
for
men.
D
Men
have
grown
up
with
trauma
in
violent
communities.
They
have
seen
this
violence
in
their
lives
experienced
it,
and
we
also
need
to
give
some
more
attention.
There
is
attention,
but
not
enough,
where
our
young
males
have
an
opportunity
to
talk
about
the
issues
that
have
moved
them
to
this
level.
When
I
first
started
at
war-
and
I
was
in
schools
pretty
often-
and
I
would
see
suspension
rates
high
among
young
males,
especially
young
african-american
and
latinx
males,
I
used
to
say
to
myself:
how
did
this
young
person
get
into
this
situation?
D
We
didn't
think
about
trauma,
then
our
children
have
grown
up
in
a
community
where
this
traumatic
event.
Now,
as
adults
they're
acting
out
and
doing
the
same
behavior
that
they
have
experienced
and
witnessed,
so
we
need
to
dive
deeper
here.
It's
not
just
get
law
enforcement
to
stop
shooting
or
serve
our
psja.
All
these
are
pieces
of
the
puzzle.
That's
needed.
We
need
to
also
look
with
our
young
people
and
give
them
something
more,
some
better
skills
and
tools
to
be
able
to
self-manage
behavior.
D
This
is
just
a
tip
of
the
iceberg,
but
I'm
asking
our
respectful
counsel
to
dig
deeper,
so
we
thank
you
for
providing
the
funds
that
you
have
already
provided.
We
are
thrilled
about
the
vawa
act
being
passed.
We
appreciate
you
giving
board
an
opportunity
to
come
and
present
our
testimony
and
just
to
recognize
that
it's
not
just
our
women
who
lost
their
lives.
It's
the
family
members,
it's
their
children
and
it's
our
community
and
we
appreciate
everything
that
city
council
has
done
and
making
this
issue
something
to
be
tackled
and
with
solutions
in
this
city.
B
E
E
Can
you
share
a
little
bit
more
about
how
these
lessons
can
be
taught
in
a
workshop
to
young
people,
because
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
great
measure
to
undo
normalization
of
violence
against
women
and
girls,
and
what
would
the
young
people
look
for?
You
know
what
people
should
young
people
should
look
for
an
intimate
partner
violence
rather
than
you
know
the
general
interpersonal
disputes.
D
Well,
councilwoman,
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
going
to
say
and
our
agency
annually
even
in
covet,
we
did
an
enormous
amount
of
programs.
Even
through
a
visual.
You
know
tools,
we
did
actually
a
thousand
school-based
services
if
you
could
believe
it
even
during
covet
when
schools,
the
city
of
philadelphia,
reserve
resumed
services
and
we're
very
focused
on
relationship
information,
and
I
believe
at
the
core
of
a
lot
of
this,
especially
when
it
comes
to
our
young
women,
is
that
very
much
they're
lacking
self-esteem.
D
So
now
that
dating
partner
becomes
the
the
reason
for
their
life,
you
know,
just
being
you
know
upfront
about
it
and
so
that
person.
This
is
one
of
the
ways
that
we've
seen
a
lot
of
control
being
gained,
so
we
need
to
strengthen
our
young
people.
I
had
a
chance
to
serve
on
another
panel
and
one
of
the
suggestions
that
we
talked
about
was
helping.
Young
people
determine
a
life
process
for
themselves,
recognizing
that
they
need
tools
to
make
better
decisions
that
they
need
some
competency
strengthening
so
that
they
can
move
forward.
D
Our
young
people
are
often
missing
how
to
determine
at
the
beginning
when
you're
in
a
dating
relationship
and
the
person
begins
acting
out
or
shows
some.
You
know
discontent,
they
make
excuses.
Our
young
women
and
I
believe,
councilman
jones
might
have
spoken
to
that.
They
make
excuses
and
accept
the
bad
behavior,
because
they're
clinging
on
to
that
one
individual
in
their
life,
that
is
showing
them
some
level
of
affection.
So
we
need
to
get
back
to
helping
people
become
whole.
D
We
recognize
that
there's
a
lot
that's
missing
in
their
homes
or
in
their
communities,
and
one
of
the
things
we
try
to
do
internally
at
wars
is
strive
to
our
programming
to
help
young
people
identify
healthy
mentors
and
healthy
relationships.
Dr
sorenson
is
right:
tv
dating
violence
is
just
a
tip
of
the
iceberg.
D
We
know
that
their
ability
to
have
their
own
personal
relationships
to
make
decisions
for
their
lives
to
have
a
road
map,
for
I
might
be
in
a
community
of
poverty,
but
there's
a
way
that
I
can
get
out
through
education
and
skills,
and
we
do
a
lot
of
that
at
work.
That's
the
only
way.
I
know
how
to
help
kids
stay
out
of
trouble
is
to
give
them
a
road
map
that
for
success,
and
I
think
some
strengthening
around
that-
and
you
know
our
young
males.
D
I
know
they
are
the
highest
proponent
of
being
their
perpetrators
and
using
gun
violence,
but
I
am
concerned
because
they
they've
been
often-
and
we
just
transparently
as
we've
lived
our
lives.
They've
just
been,
you
know,
cast
to
the
wayside.
I
don't
believe
in
bad
kids.
I
believe
in
something
that's
happened
to
these
children
that
their
lives
have
gotten
out
of
control
and
they're
now
in
survival
mode,
and
if
you
witness
violence,
you
do
violence,
and
it's
not
just
in
dating
relationships.
It's
not
being
able
to
understand
self-management,
conflict
resolution.
D
We
know
that
have
missed
skills
to
help
them
gain
skills
to
better
self-manage,
because
for
me,
if
it
starts
out
as
a
bully
and
nobody
checks
it
and
then
it
escalates
into
harassment
and
nobody
checks
it
then
you
become
an
adult
and
nobody
checks
it,
and
then
you
get
a
gun
or
a
knife
or
some
other
weapon,
and
now
you
have
lethality,
so
we've
always
tried
to
work
with
that
particular
principle.
Stop
it
before
it
starts.
L
Thank
you.
That
is
I.
I
definitely
concur
what
you're
saying.
I
would
just
add
that
you
know
again.
I
think
capacity
is
always
an
issue
also
for
organizations.
While
we
have
curriculums
that
have
been
studied
research
for
comparable
cities
such
as
philadelphia,
you
know
capacities
and
issues.
So,
for
example,
here
in
wah
we
start
about
sixth
grade.
We
do
focus
on
healthy
relationships.
It's
our
safer
program.
It's
talking
about
non-violent
communication
right.
L
There
is
conflict,
people
will
have
conflicts,
but
you
need
to
be
having
you
need
to
have
the
resource
tools
to
be
able
to
manage
that
right.
How
is
that
managed?
How
do
you
do
that
in
a
non-violent
way?
And
you
know
what
are
the
warning
signs
of
abuse
right?
We
with
technology.
Now
we
see
a
lot
of
stalking
behavior
that
it's
something
that's
you
know
just
accepted,
and
so
no,
how
do
you?
L
You
know
talk
to
young
people
about
healthy
relationships,
establishing
you
know
negotiables
and
non-negotiables
right,
and
so
I
think
that
that's
really
important,
but
I
definitely
I
agree
with
all
what
you're
saying,
but
I
do
think
the
capacity
is
an
issue
because,
as
an
example,
why
is
currently
in
six
schools?
How
many
schools
do
we
have
in
philadelphia?
So
again,
I
think
that
there
definitely
needs
to
be
increased
opportunities
for
us
to
really
truly
do
you
know,
prevention,
work
and
just
greater
investment
in
prevention
at
a
much
younger
age.
L
E
Oh
yes,
yeah.
I
hear
that
loud
and
clear
in
six,
schools
is
definitely
not
enough.
There's
definitely
something
that
should
have
a
larger
impact
across
the
district,
and
I
did
realize
that
I
really
like
to
you
know
continue
to
work
with
you
guys
on
this
one
with
both
of
you,
because
I
think
including
young
people
in
the
future
is
going
to
be
huge,
and
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
all
your
work
and
mr
chair
that
ends
my
questions.
B
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
and
this
is
very
informative.
I
don't
have
any
questions,
but
this
just
gives
us
additional
information
to
follow
up
on.
I
like
the
comprehensive
approach,
because
obviously
there's
a
law
enforcement
report,
but
how
about
being
prevented
from
the
beginning
right
and
addressing
those
behaviors
and
what
you
said
teresa
was
very
unique.
Is
you
talked
about
the
men?
You
talked
about
the
boys
right.
They
had
to
learn
that
behavior
from
somewhere
right.
B
B
How
are
we
supporting
and
addressing
the
what
we
call
boots
on
the
ground
organizations
such
as
war
and
women,
against
abuse
when
you,
when
it
comes
to
expanding
capacity
or
being
an
additional
support
system
right
around
this
particular
issuance?
So
I
I
thank
the
two
of
you
for
taking
time
out
of
your
schedule
and
I
thank
you
for
your
informative
testimony
doing
this
panel.
N
N
It
needs
to
be
public
campaigns
like
you
say,
because
people
is
like
you
know,
see
no
evil
hear
no
evil.
When
you're,
when
it's
not
directly
in
front
of
you,
it's
really
not
an
issue.
I
mean
even
though,
like
I,
I
see
it
firsthand
within
my
community.
You
know
I'm
from
the
inner
city.
I
grew
up
in
south
philadelphia.
N
N
N
So
we
we'd
like
to
try
to
look
at
domestic
violence
as
it's
just
a
physical
thing,
but
it's
not
just
a
physical
thing.
It's
emotional!
It's
an
emotional
and
mental
health
issue.
It's
it's
really
a
threat
to
our
communities,
especially
the
african-american
community,
in
the
inner
city
and
within
young
adults.
You
know
they
think
that
it's
a
game.
N
They
think
that
their
life
can't
be
threatened
because
they're
not
really
seeing
it
now
lately
and
more
so
recently,
you
know
a
lot
of
young
women
have
been
losing
their
lives
and
it's
kind
of
been
almost.
You
know
public
signs,
but
you
know
now
it's
kind
of
being
brought
more
to
the
forefront
because
it's
getting
closer
and
closer
to
our
backyards,
and
you
know
it.
N
We
we
have
to
incorporate
these
these
issues
within
the
schools
like,
we
really
have
to
bring
up
a
curriculum
and
a
program
where,
as
though
they
are
really
being
taught
early
of
the
the
signs
and
how
you
know
you
become
a
victim
of
domestic
violence.
You
know
how
you
know
how
it
takes.
Two
people
to
be
in
a
domestic,
violent
relationship
is
not
just
one-sided,
so
a
healthy
individual
will
not
remain
in
an
abusive
relationship
with
anyone
in
any
type
of
form.
N
You
know,
oftentimes,
we
have
a
depiction
of
a
woman,
that's
being
abused,
she's,
a
middle-aged
white
woman.
We
don't
really
see
a
lot
of
representation
for
young
african-american
or
latino
individuals.
So
representation
is
very,
very
important
young
adults.
They
listen
to
other
young
adults,
they
listen
to
people
who
they
can
relate
to
who
reminds
them
of
themselves.
N
O
This
law
includes
improvements
to
pennsylvania's
pfa
and
deals
primarily
with
increased
safety
provisions
related
to
firearms
in
both
protection
from
abuse
and
misdemeanor
crimes
of
domestic
violence.
To
help
prevent
domestic
violence
homicide.
This
act
requires
defendants
to
relinquish
their
firearms
in
24
hours
instead
of
60
days.
O
Knowing
this
information
led
purple
house
project
pa
to
host
an
event,
titled
protect
yourself.
During
this
event,
we
have
four
panelists,
a
public,
a
police
officer,
a
representative
from
the
central
division
of
crime,
victim
services
and
council
member
kendra
brooks
as
well
as
a
human
resource
director.
O
The
event
panelists
discussed
the
protection
from
abuse
process,
coercive
control,
bill
and
employment
entitlements
for
individuals
impacted
by
intimate
partner
violence.
Community
members
that
were
in
attendance
shared
their
concerns
with
the
pfa
process.
The
overarching
concern
was
accessibility.
Community
members
expressed
frustrations
around
the
process.
Such
barriers
include
transportation,
child
care,
clothing
and
insecurity,
anonymity
and
accessibility
for
individuals
with
visual
impairments,
purple
house
project
pa
understands
the
intersections
of
intimate
partner
violence
and
how
those
intersections
impact
an
individual's
experience
with
fleeing
an
abusive
relationship.
O
Based
on
the
aford
mentioned
purple
house
project
ba,
along
with
our
community
partner
provincialists
fashion,
believe
that
the
below
action
should
be
considered
digital
pfa
to
assist
with
accessibility,
hotel
vouchers
for
individuals
fleeing
partnership
with
an
organization
to
assist
with
transportation
and
child
care
after
hours,
purple
house
project
believes
that
these
considerations
will
greatly
assist
those
who
have
faced
or
are
facing
intimate
partner
violence.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
your
time.
E
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
want
to
thank
both
christine
and
shakina
for
speaking
from
their
personal
experiences
and
sharing
their
extremely
vulnerable
background
and
now
for
leading
the
work
to
bring
our
communities
forward
and,
hopefully
to
undo
intimate
department
of
violence,
and
I
want
to
give
you
both
the
opportunity
to
elaborate
on
how
to
reach
the
recommendations
that
you
put
forward.
O
I
can
start,
I
think,
that
one
of
the
ways
that
we
can
reach
some
of
the
recommendations
is
partnering
with
local
organizations
that
already
are
helping
with
transportation,
as
well
as
maybe
having
a
partnership
with
septa
to
assist
with
transportation.
I
think
another
way
that
we
can
address
some
of
the
recommendations,
specifically
with
the
digital
and
making
it
accessible,
is
to
partner
with
an
organization
like
a
technology
organization
as
well
as
liberty,
resources
that
works
with
people
with
disabilities
to
make
sure
that
it
is
accessible.
No
matter
what
your
abilities
level
is.
N
Yes,
thank
you,
council.
Member
brooks.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity,
so
I
I
would
suggest
that
we
that
more
funding
is
accessible
to
grassroot
organizations
like
csu
and
purple
house
project
to
us.
You
know
we
want,
would
like
to
create
opportunities
where
individuals
are
able
to
be
trained,
they're
able
to
be
equipped,
because
I
mean
the
police
force
already.
N
They
they
are
over
strained
and
overwhelmed,
and
I
mean
not
to
put
someone
else
in
danger,
but
just
to
be
able
to
create
you
know,
exit
plan
to
help
with
you
know
exiting
a
dangerous
situation
to
you
know
to
be
able
to
provide
transportation
assistance,
because
you
have
you
know:
individuals
where
they're
fleeing
they're
but
they're
fleeing
on
foot.
They
don't
have
no
money,
they
don't
have
any
clothes,
so
just
you
know
being
able
to
create
a
a
mobile
crisis
intervention
unit.
N
N
This
was
my
boyfriend,
but
this
was
my
living
partner
and
I
remember
you
know
going
through
the
fight
and
in
the
in
the
in
the
chaos-
and
I
remember
feeling
like
you
know
I
wish
it
was
somewhere,
we
could
go
where
we
could
really
talk
out
our
feelings
and
really
figure
out.
What's
going
on.
We
both
need
help.
We
both
needed
help
and
and
and
it's
not
the
point
fingers
so
I
think
more,
I
think,
like
hubs
need
to
be
created.
C
L
N
N
B
O
So
right
now,
when
people
go
to
get
their
pfas,
they
have
to
go
to
family
court.
However,
it's
really
difficult,
because
what,
if
you
see
your
perpetrator
or
someone
who
knows
your
perpetrator
at
the
pfa
court
and
the
safety
behind
it
is
really
impacted
by
it,
and
so
I
think
that
if
there
were
like
as
a
digital
portion
of
or
some
alternative
places
that
people
can
go
to
get
their
pfa,
it
would
really
help
with
keeping
people
safe
and
anonymous.
B
Oh
okay,
very,
very
that's
very
interesting!
Okay.
We
don't
want
to
keep
people
safe
in
the
process,
any
other
questions
or
comments,
and
members
of
the
committee,
unless
y'all
keep
up
the
great
work
anyway.
I
can
continuously
be
supportive,
go
ahead,
foreign
collaborations
later
on
in
the
year,
and-
and
I
just
commend
you
for
not
only
talking
about
it
but
being
about
it-
and
it's
important
that
we
have
a
grassroots
perspective
on
the
work
that
we're
doing
as
policy
makers
right.
B
O
M
Morning
out
there
I'm
sure
it
will
shovel
out
for
the
record
for
the
city
and
county
of
philadelphia.
So
let
me
introduce
my
staff:
that's
here,
that's
dealing
with
a
lot
of
the
pfas
and
those
protection
orders
and
what
they're
doing
to
my
left.
We
have
sergeant
morris,
who
is
our
new
pfa
civil
enforcement
supervisor
that
is
now
out
on
the
streets
before
we
did
not
have
that.
M
We
have
sergeant
pastel,
who
is
part
of
our
training
unit,
that
make
sure
everybody
gets
trained
on
these
issues
and
to
make
sure
that
everything
is
run
efficient.
We
also
have
officer
charmitude,
who
is
the
expert
in
our
relinquished
guns,
tracking
information
property
seats
keeping
up.
I
just
call
her
the
expert
expert
in
our
army
in
the
sheriff's
office
and
we
also
have
officer
dixon,
who
also
works
in
our
armory
in
the
sheriff
office.
So
these
are
the
two
that
keep
those
things
up
to
date.
M
M
G
Say
it
come
on
councilman
the
sheriff's
office
to
serve
temporary
pre-pfa
orders
and
certified
weapon
relinquishment
required
simultaneously,
even
though
the
defendant
is
not
required
to
relinquish
the
weapons
right
away.
We
also
attempt
the
orders,
not
all
attempt.
Not
all
temporary
orders
require
relinquishments,
but
we
still
go
out
and
attempt
to
get
those
weapons.
So,
basically,
when
the
orders
come
to
us,
we
go
out
and
try
to
get
them
all
served.
G
Also.
We
try
to
get
the
weapons
off
the
street
as
far
as
the
relinquishments.
That
has
the
actual
orders.
So
we
out
there
trying
to
get
the
the
relinquishments
and
the
up
try
to
serve
the
pfas.
That's
pretty
much
what
we
do
basically
and
if
the
weapon
is,
if
the
pfa
has
the
a
warrant
with
it,
we're
gonna
have
a
warrant
unit,
actually
try
to
do
the
do
the
serve
the
war
and
execute
the
war
and
also
try
to
serve
the
pfa
at
the
same
time.
G
Okay,
that's
pretty
much
another
part
of
our
our
services.
What
we
do
once
that
pfa
is
served,
it
was
given
out
to
the
plaintiffs.
What
we'll
do
is
if
it's
supposed
to
be
served
into
another
county.
It
comes
to
us,
meaning
the
civil
division
we'll
send
that
order
over
to
that
particular
county,
whether
it's
in
state
or
out
of
state
and
what
happens
is
we
ask
them
to
send
us
the
affidavit
back
to
us
and
then
we'll
just
put
it
in
our
file?
G
That's
pretty
much
what
we
do
if
it's
generated
here
in
philadelphia,
we'll
send
it
out
to
those
counties
or
those
states
in
the
states.
Can
he
still
here
yeah,
okay,
all
right
and
what
happens
is,
let's
just
say:
if
there's
an
issue
with
a
person
that
has
a
that's,
how
can
I
say,
that's
a
registered.
That's
a
registered
license
to
carry
a
weapon,
and
we
know
they
have
a
weapon
if
they
say
that
they
don't
have
a
weapon
we'll
forward
that
to
our
gun.
G
Permit
unit
with
the
philadelphia
police
department
and
they'll
initiate
an
investigation,
because
we
know
that
they
actually
have
a
gun
and
but
they're
telling
us
that
they
don't
have
a
gun.
So
now
ppd
will
go
and
do
an
investigation
and
then
they'll
go
out
and
do
what
they
need
to
do
from
their
aspect
of
it.
But
you
know
we.
What
we'll
do
is
just
try
to
investigate
to
find
out
if
they
actually
have
it
if
they
turn
it
over
to
us
fine,
but
we
actually
know
that
they
actually
are
registered.
Firearm
owners.
M
Basically,
if
once
they
sign
that
affidavit
to
say
they
don't
have
a
gun
that
goes
to
ppd
investigations,
then
they'll
start
the
process
of
getting
an
arrest
warrant
form
because
they
know
they
got
a
gun,
and
so
therefore
they'll
be
arrested
for
that
affidavit
that
they
said
they
didn't
have
a
gun,
so
the
getting
connected
to
philly
pd
and
their
detected
divisions.
I
know
you
talked
to
healy
about
the
mou
that
is
yet
to
be
signed.
M
B
G
In
2020
we
had
590
required
firearms.
Can
you
hear
me,
sir?
Yes,
590
required
firearm
relinquishments.
Now
the
590
could
be
here
in
philadelphia.
It
could
be
in
another
state,
it
could
be
outside
of
philadelphia,
but
here
in
the
county
of
pennsylvania.
So
what
we'll
do
is
investigate
that
of
those
590
78.
Actually,
here
we
either
have
an
affidavit
stating
that
they
do
not
have
a
firearm
or
we
actually
got
the
firearm
and
that's
just
in
2020.,
so
the
590
we
investigated
all
590..
G
We
went
to
the
house,
we
tried
to
get
in
contact
with
the
individual
and
of
those
590
78
we
got.
We
was
able
to
get
a
affidavit
sign
or
the
actual
weapon.
Then
that's
just
in
2020..
In
2021
there
was
1120
that
required
firearm
relinquishment
and
again
the
same
thing.
We
investigated
all
1100
or
so
again,
just
to
be
clear
out
of
state
or
out
of
county
of
that
one
1125
164
164.
G
M
C
M
M
B
M
Here
in
the
sheriff
offer
we're
now
trying
to
establish
our
pfa
unit,
because
once
this
becomes
our
baby,
which
is
once
I
signed
the
affidavit
all
that
information
is
going
to
be
on
us
and
so
we're
trying
to
establish
a
pfa
unit,
and
so
that
means
more
support
as
far
as
officers
that
we
need
to
require.
So
you
know
I'm
coming
so.
The
members
account
is
on
the
door.
B
The
members
of
the
council
who
are
here
on
this
call
that's
participating
in
the
special
committee
on
gun
violence,
hearing
on
domestic
violence,
to
be
aware
that
the
sheriff's
office
is
creating
a
specific
unit
to
deal
with
protection
from
abuse
orders,
and
they
shall
need
support
and
that's
why
they
that's
not.
Why
they're
here
today,
but
that's
part
of
the
key
component
of
their
presentation,
which
I
commend
and
I'll
say
for
the
record
that
you
will
have
my
advocacy
and
my
support,
because
this
issue
is
that
critically
important.
M
M
G
Morning
sergeant
morris
from
the
pfa
service
unit,
I'm
about
to
read
a
pfa
report.
That's
consisted
over
the
last
two
years
since
sheriff
rochelle
below
to
go
to
the
sheriff's
office.
Basically,
since
april
of
2020,
the
philadelphia
sheriff's
office
has
processed
and
served
or
attempted
service
on
9496
protection
from
abuse
orders.
G
1
127
of
those
had
active
warrants.
We
averaged
21
new
protection
from
abuse
orders
a
day
we
are
currently
on
pace
to
exceed
our
previous
year.
Total
of
584
orders
for
officer
safety
and
preparation
for
possible
weapon,
relinquishment
the
defendant
on
every
pfa
is
checked
using
the
national
crime
information
center
database,
which
is
nci
city,
where
we
check
criminal
history,
both
for
convictions
and
prior
charges
and
after
warrants
in
the
last
two
years
april,
2020
to
march
2022
1227
defendants
had
active
warrants,
such
as
arrest
warrants
from
local
out
of
state
agencies.
G
Bench
warrants
probation
warrants
domestic
relations
warrants.
If
the
extradition
was
approved
by
the
issuan
jurisdiction,
the
warrant
was
served,
the
arrest
stats
are
included
and
the
2036
arrest
made
by
the
sheriff's
office
warrant
over
the
last
two
years
of
the
sheriff's
of
allah
any
registered
handguns.
The
defendant
may
have
purchased
in
pennsylvania
that
database
is
maintained
by
the
pennsylvania
state
police,
but
we
monitor
it
because
the
results
have
to
be
examined
for
accuracy
to
ensure
that
the
record
of
sale
matches
the
defendant.
M
C
C
C
M
Good
yeah,
I
think
they
gave
you
all
the
stats
on
I'll
make
sure
you
get
this
package
so
you'll.
Have
it
at
your
hand,
any
other
questions
you
may
have.
I'm
also
going
to
send
you
some
pictures
of
our
armory
on
how
we
updated
everything
in
it
and
so
you're
going
to
see
such
a
small
space
that
we
are
in
in
this
building.
B
Okay,
maybe
we
can
do
a
tour
all
right
all
right.
Well,
listen!
I
want
to
first
and
foremost,
thank
you,
commissioner,
rochelle
and
your
team
for
taking
time
out
of
your
schedule
and
being
here
today
and
providing
us
this
very
informative
information
and
also,
let's
just
stay
in
contact
regarding
the
work
that
you're
doing
to
get
the
courts
on
to
begin
clarifying.
B
L
B
P
B
P
P
P
I
do
think
there's
a
flaw
in
the
system
with
pfas
as
far
as
cross-referencing
and
things
of
that
nature,
because
him-
and
these
actually
share
the
same
last
name
so
had
there
be
some
sort
of
reference
or
cross-reference
or
database,
it
would
have
been
acknowledged
that,
yes,
this
this
person
is
coming
to
file
a
pfa
against
her.
However,
the
person
she
has
the
psa
against
have
they
shared
the
same
last
name.
A
P
P
I've
even
turned
over
to
evidence
where
he
has
stated
to
not
only
myself,
but
basically
the
judge
who
who
did
the
psa
day
he's
going
to
continue
to
violate
it
and
it
doesn't.
It
doesn't
mean
anything
to
him
yet
until
he's
granted
the
opportunity
to
continuously
make
bell,
which
continues
to
put
my
life
at
risk
because
he
keeps
violating
it
also
he's
been
circumventing
the
law
in
order
to
continue
to
harass
me
stalk
me,
and
you
know,
just
make
my
life
difficult
with
the
abuse
you
know.
P
As
far
as
like
I
said,
he
has
recruited
his
his
cousin,
his
niece
to
continue
the
harassment
and
abuse.
Also,
I
feel
like
this
system
has
been
flawed
and
I
fell
through
the
cracks
when
it
came
to
the
da's
office.
So
originally,
when
we
went
to
court
after
the
original
psa
was
issued
and
he
violated
the
psa,
I
was
you
know.
I
went
to
the
I
showed
up
to
court,
the
young
lady,
who
was
handling
the
case
from
the
da's
office.
P
P
However,
when
upon
the
follow-up
from
court
I
come
to,
I
came
to
learn
that
he
was
never.
He
was
never
told
he
had
to
be
on
probation
probation
was
never.
I
guess
put
on
the
table
as
well
as
he
like
pretty
much.
I
was
misled.
Everything
I
was
told
was
supposed
to
be
a
stipulation
for
him
wasn't
completed
and
I
felt
like
because
I
wasn't
allowed
in
the
courtroom.
P
P
So
when
I
called
to
follow
up
to
say
you
know,
hey,
what's
going
on
with
my
case,
he's
still
violating
the
psa
and
things
that
in
nature,
I
was
given
the
run
around,
because
no
one
knew
basically
no
one
knew
the
status
of
my
case.
I
guess,
because
the
va
had
resigned.
Who
was
handling
my
case.
No
one
could
really
tell
me
what
was
done
or
said,
and
I
felt
helpless
and
I
still
continue
to
feel
helpless
because
now
here
it
is,
you
know
I
have
four
pending
cases
against
this.
P
This
man,
who
continues
to
harass
me
stalk
me
and
and
his
own
way
abused
me,
although
it
has
not
been
physical
because
it
hasn't
been
physical,
but,
however,
it
gives
him
the
opposite.
The
ample
opportunity
to
get
to
the
point
where
it
does
get
physical.
Again,
I
have
a
a
mark,
a
scar,
should
I
say,
on
the
going
down
the
whole
left
side
of
my
face
from
this
individual.
He
took
a
construction
flashlight
and
beat
me
across
my
face
with
it
repeatedly.
P
P
It
may
have
been
a
gap
in
the
time
that
he
was
violent,
but
if
you
go
back
to
his
history,
all
back
all
the
way
back
to
the
80s,
you
can
see
all
of
his
cases
that
he
has
has
been
for
a
aggravated
assault,
simple
assault
all
on
females,
so
I
just
feel
like
the
system
has
allowed
me
to
fall
through
the
cracks
and
continue
to
be
abused
by
this
person
as
well
as
his
family.
I
went
and
I
asked
about.
Well,
is
it
a
way?
P
I
can
get
you
know
technically,
a
psa
is
supposed
to
include
the
person
and
anyone
associated
with
him,
but
apparently
that
wasn't
the
case
when
denise
was
able
to
go
file.
A
psa
against
me
to
get
me
kicked
out
my
own
home
now,
I
have
currently
been
kicked
out
of
my
home
almost
for
two
months
now.
Due
to
this,
she
broke
into
my
home
burglarized,
my
home
changed
my
locks
and
everything,
and
because
of
the
the
the
safety
issue,
that's
at
hand,
I
haven't
even
been
able
to
return
home.
P
I'm
currently
waiting
for
them
to
pick
her
up
is
a
warrant
for
her
arrest
for
her
burglarizing,
my
home,
but
she's
still
running
the
street.
Even
though
there's
an
act
of
warrant
against
her,
and
I
feel
for
my
life,
I
feel
helpless.
I
feel
you
know
unhappy
dissatisfied
and
the
system,
although
you
know
I
understand
all
the
the
the
strides
that
the
system
is.
You
know
that
people
are
making
to
try
to
make
the
system
better.
P
P
I
know
back
in
the
day
they
had
the
great
program
they
had
the
their
program
within
the
school.
How
about
we
create
programs
where
it
teaches
young
females
and
young
males
what's
appropriate
relationships
or
what
healthy
relationships
look
like
the
same
way.
You
know
those
programs
were
created
to
prevent
drug
abuse
and
those
programs
were
created
to
prevent
gang
violence.
P
I
feel
like
domestic
violence.
Is
it's
it's
on
the
rise,
especially
since
covet
you
know
with
the
you
know,
the
stay-at-home
order
that
was
in
place.
I
know
the
the
numbers
drastically
increased
and
being
as
though
myself
I
actually
worked
for
philadelphia,
police
dispatch,
9-1-1
and
I
know
on
a
regular
basis.
Just
me
as
a
call
taker
majority
of
the
cases
we
receive
are
domestics.
B
E
E
E
E
E
Had
they
had
a
system
in
place,
they
would
have
known
the
address
and
issue
in
which
the
lease
file
my
daughter,
had
previously
filed
against
her
uncle,
who
has
a
history
of
abuse,
he's
been
circumventing
the
system,
stalking
and
harassing
her.
He
has
four
cases
my
research
based
on
the
laws
of
pennsylvania
for
stalking
and
harassment
state
anything
more
than
two.
He
should
be
charged
with
the
third
degree
felony,
because
it's
except
excessive.
E
No
one
has
taken
time
to
review
the
cases,
not
even
the
d.a,
furthering
his
ability
to
harass
he's
also
circumvented
the
system
even
to
include
l
and
I
he
is
currently
taking
over
a
property
directly
next
door
to
my
daughter
through
eleanor's
citation.
So
he
and
his
family
can
keep
abusing
her
it's.
By
god's
grace,
I
ran
into
councilman
johnson.
E
E
B
C
C
C
C
Q
H
K
C
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
They
were
forced
to
turn
away
an
average
of
six
thousand
one
hundred
and
sixty
requests
for
shelter
every
year
for
fiscal
years,
2017
to
2021.,
because
their
two
100
bed
emergency,
safe
havens,
which
provide
the
only
shelter
beds
for
survivors
of
domestic
violence
in
philadelphia,
were
already
full.
The
question
is
often
asked:
why
doesn't
she
just
leave?
Q
Q
Q
If
this
is
true,
philadelphia
must
do
better
and
enforcing
the
law
and
getting
these
guns
out
of
the
hands
of
known
abusers
when
a
person
gets
a
psa
that
takes
a
huge
amount
of
courage
because
they
may
risk
enraging
the
abuser.
Even
more
statistics
say:
75
percent
of
domestic
related
murders
happen
after
the
survivor
leaves
or
attempts
to
leave.
Q
We
must
work
collectively
and
collaboratively
to
ensure
that
victims
are
aware
of
all
the
resources
that
may
be
available
to
them.
I
want
to
thank
council
member
at
large
kendra,
brooks
personally
for
joining
forces
with
purple
house
project
in
october
of
last
year,
domestic
violence
awareness
month
to
bring
our
fourth
annual.
My
purple
pass
domestic
violence
walk
to
the
city
of
philadelphia
for
the
first
time
in
previous
years
it
had
been
held
in
delaware
county,
but
we
saw
a
much
greater
need
here.
Q
B
C
B
B
Is
anyone
else
available
for
public
comment
hearing
none?
This
concludes
the
special
hearing
on
gun,
violence
and
domestic
violence
by
the
special
committee
on
gun
violence.
I
want
to
thank
all
of
my
colleagues
for
taking
time
out
of
your
schedule
on
this
friday
to
participate
in
very
critically
and
important
I'm
hearing.
I
want
to
thank
all
the
panelists
for
taking
time
out
of
your
schedule
and
providing
so
much
needed
valuable
information
and
recommendations
as
we
address
this
issue
moving
forward.
Thank
you
very
much.
Everyone
take
care
have
a
great
weekend.
God
bless.