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The Joint Committee on Finance & Special Committee on Gun Violence Prevention of the Council of the City of Philadelphia will hold a Public Hearing on Thursday, June 3, 2021, at 9:30 AM, in a remote manner using Microsoft® Teams to hear testimony on the following items:
210169 Resolution authorizing the Committees on Finance and on Gun Violence Prevention to hold joint hearings regarding the connection between poverty, gun violence, and systemic racism in Philadelphia.
A
B
Yes,
your
sound,
your
sound
sounds
good.
Let
me
just
double.
C
Check
with
the
court
reporter
how's
that
sound
to
you.
A
Okay,
great,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
know
that
the
hour
has
come.
Mr
inuzi,
will
you
please
call
the
role
to
take
attendance
members
that
are
in
attendance?
Will
you
please
indicate
that
you
are
present
when
your
name
is
called
and
say
a
group?
A
few
brief
words
to
indicate
your
response
so
that
your
image
will
be
displayed
on
screen
when
you
speak.
E
F
A
President
good
morning,
thank
you,
mr
anusi.
Quorum
of
these
committees
is
president
and
his
hearing
is
now
called
to
order.
This
is
a
public
hearing
of
the
joint
committees
on
finance
and
special
committee
on
gun
violence.
Regarding
resolution
number
two
one:
zero
one,
six,
nine!
Mr!
I
news
that.
Will
you
please
read
the
title
of
the
resolution.
A
Thank
you,
mr
newty,
before
we
begin
to
hear
testimony
from
the
witnesses
we
have
for
today,
everyone
who
has
been
invited
to
this
meeting
to
testify
should
be
aware
that
the
public
hearing
is
being
recorded
because
the
hearing
is
public
participants
and
viewers
have
no
reasonable
expectation
of
privacy.
By
continuing
to
be
in
this
meeting,
you
are
consenting
to
being
recorded
additionally
prior
to
recognizing
members
for
questionable
comments.
They
have
witnesses.
A
C
Michael
rashid,
director
of
the
department
of
commerce
city
of
philadelphia,
erica
atwood
senior,
director
of
the
office
of
policy
and
strategic
initiatives
for
criminal
justice
and
public
safety
city
of
philadelphia,
the
law
abdul
quion
president
and
executive
director.
The
father's
day
rally
committee
incorporated.
A
Mr
chair,
yes,
before
we
begin
I'd
like
to
recognize
council
member
johnson
for
some
opening
comments,.
I
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair.
First
and
foremost,
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
your
leadership
and
calling
this
herring,
so
we
can
begin
looking
at
the
root
causes
of
why
we
have
gun
violence
on
plaguing
the
streets
of
the
city
of
philadelphia
and
really
a
lot
of
times.
We
approach
this
from
a
law
enforcement
standpoint
with
our
district.
I
This
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
reimagine
gun
violence
prevention,
so
I
just
want
to
say
I
salute
you
or
for
taking
this
to
unique
approach.
We
know
that
from
statistics
in
areas
of
high
poverty,
there's
high
crime
and
high
voluntary,
so
this
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
address
this
from
a
paradigm
shift
as
we
go
forward
toward
the
future,
and
so,
first
and
foremost,
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
you
for
your
hard
work
and
thank
you
and
I
look
forward
to
hearing
all
of
the
panelists
who
are
participating
today.
C
A
C
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
johnson,
and
to
follow
up
on
that
point.
I
would
be
remiss
in
not
thanking
mr
bilal
kwayum
for
actually
introducing
this
concept.
This
connection
between
both
the
issues
of
gun,
violence
and
economic
development.
A
Many
people
know
bilal's
work
on
reference
to
father's
day's
rally
committee,
but
others
may
not
be
as
familiar
with
his
work
as
a
member
of
the
city's
commerce
department
for
a
number
of
years,
so
he
brings
a
unique
connection
both
in
what
I
would
say,
his
9
a.m,
to
5
p.m,
career,
but
also
5
p.m,
to
9,
00
p.m,
if
not
later
on
work
in
trying
to
address
gun
violence-
and
this
connection
is
something
that
and
I've
seen
through
various
aspects
of
my
own
personal
career,
from
working
in
banking,
as
also
being
in
the
district
attorney's
office
some
years
ago.
A
So
this
issue,
as
councilmember
johnson,
talked
about
the
connection
between
the
increase
in
gun,
violence
and
then
the
lack
of
economic
development
is
something
that
some
that's
been
here
in
this
city
too
often
we
talk
about
these
issues
in
silos.
Well,
if
you
focus
on
gun
violence
or
public
safety,
this
is
your
platform,
or
this
is
your
portfolio
of
work.
A
If
you're
someone
that
works
on
economic
development
or
business
development
or
trying
to
provide
equity
for
black
and
brown
businesses,
then
your
portfolio
of
work
is
over
here
when
all
of
these
issues
are
interconnected,
and
I
think
it's
more
and
more,
we
as
members
of
council
and
public
are
starting
are
trying
to
move
beyond
the
various
silos
that
people
put
us
in,
or
sometimes
we
ourselves
put
ourselves
in
and
try
and
look
at
these
things
in
a
comprehensive,
collective
way
in
preparation
for
this
hearing,
we've
also
had
you
know
some
outrage
to
both
pew
chattanooga
trust,
as
well
as
the
andy
casey
foundation
to
for
them
to
provide
some,
no
real
research
on
these
issues.
A
I've
had
conversations
with
them,
so
this
is
the
first
step.
In
this
conversation,
we
look
forward
to
having
additional
conversations
from
a
more
academic
approach,
possibly
regarding
looking
this
issue.
We
want
to
start
this
conversation
now,
especially
as
we
are
going
into
the
summer
months
coming
out
of
the
pandemic.
A
But
here
specifically
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
and
many
people
are
familiar
with
the
statistics
regarding
black
and
brown
businesses,
where
we
only
have
six
percent
of
the
businesses
with
employees
are
owned
by
african-americans,
and
only
four
percent
of
businesses
with
employees
are
owned
by
people
of
hispanic
descent
and
that's
from
the
u.s
census
bureau.
So
that
gives
an
indication
of
the
connection
between
these
issues
and
concerns.
A
I
look
forward
to
this
conversation
this
morning
and
ongoing
conversations
as
we
look
to
address
this
concern
and
issue
in
a
more
holistic
a
way
to
address
this
systemic
problem
that
has
plagued
our
city
and
with
that
we're
going
to
call
our
first
panel.
Mr
inuzi
has
given
you
the
names
of
our
first
panelists.
We
will
start
in
this
order,
we'll
start
with
mr
bilal
kwayum.
Then
our
conference
director,
michael
rasheed
and
then
we'll
conclude
the
first
panel
with
er
miss
erica
atwork
atwood.
A
Excuse
me,
the
senior
director
of
the
office
of
policy
and
strategic
initiatives
for
criminal
justice
and
public
safety
for
our
city.
A
A
E
Yes,
I
am
bilal
kayem,
president
of
the
father's
day
rally
committee
good
morning,
members
of
city
council,
and
I
want
to
give
a
special
announcement
to
councilman,
derek
green
and
councilman.
Can
canada
johnson
for
taking
this
on
the
leadership
to
start
this
discussion
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
facing
what
I
believe
is
a
major
issue?
That's
going
to
stop
the
city
from
moving
forward,
and
that
is
addressing
the
issue
of
how
white
institutional
racism
is
affecting
the
city
and
its
movement
forward
for
all
the
citizens
in
the
city.
E
We
in
philadelphia,
if
you
remember
one
year
ago,
had
to
address
this
issue
after
the
killing
of
george
on
floyd
and
the
uprising
that
was
taking
place
in
philadelphia,
but
also
across
the
country
and
then
later
after
george
floyd,
the
murder
of
walter
wallace
by
philadelphia
police,
racial
tension
in
philadelphia.
Still
exists
just
one
year
after
the
uprising,
but
most
folks
in
leadership,
in
my
opinion,
have
failed
to
address
it
in
open
forms.
But
today,
council
has
taken
a
bold
move
to
start
the
conversation
in
public
in
the
public
form.
E
So
I
hope
today's
hearing
will
begin
to
lead,
at
least
for
us
to
agree
as
citizens
that
racism
has
to
be
addressed
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
for
the
city
to
move
forward
during
my
lifetime.
I
have
witnessed
and
seen
racism
firsthand
for
my
days
when
I
was
growing
up
in
west
philly
when
I
attended
shoemaker
junior
high
school
and
a
white
teacher
told
me
that
I
should
be
in
a
general
studies
and
act,
not
in
academics,
because
she
didn't
feel
I
could
handle
the
workload
of
being
academic
classes.
E
Also,
I
used
to
play
basketball
when
I
was
growing
up
and
one
of
the
playgrounds
we
used
to
want
to
go
to
is
tuscan
playground,
which
is
at
59th
and
lancaster
avenue
and
and
we
would
be
run
home
every
other
day
if
we
go
play
basketball
by
the
white
view
because
they
didn't
want
us
in
their
neighborhoods
and
when
I
attended
overbrook
high
school
overlooker
was
50
black
and
50
white
whites
would
go
out.
E
One
door
of
the
building
and
blacks
were
out
the
other
door
of
the
building
and
then,
as
I
moved
on
and
went
to
college
down
south-
and
I
was
in
raleigh
now
carolina
and
I
went
to
charlotte
university,
I
used
to
visit
my
brother
who
went
to
the
dorm,
who
was
at
north
carolina,
central
and
durham
north
carolina,
and
I
used
to
go
down
to
strip.
It's
almost
like.
If
you
could
visit
your
mind
from
going
for
philadelphia
in
atlantic
city,
that
long
atlantic
city
expressway.
E
Well,
I
was
driving
down
on
that
expressway.
I
saw
15
cars
parked
on
on
the
side
expressway,
and
I
saw
these
individuals
in
whitehoods
and
what
was
happening
was
they
were
kkk.
They
were
getting
ready
to
organize
to
do
a
rally
outside
of
during
north
carolina.
E
So
I'm
saying
all
that
to
say
that
we
have
to
deal
with
this
issue
about
racism.
We
and
an
effective,
as
councilman
johnson
said,
the
connection
between
racism
and
the
city
of
philadelphia,
locking
individuals
out
as
well
as
trying
to
deal
with
the
violence.
Racism
in
america
has
been
held
in
places
by
public
policy
that
evolved
over
the
years
by
slavery,
sharecropping
jim
crow,
redlining,
mass
incarceration,
predatory
subprime
lending
and
accepted
also,
I
believe,
very
strongly.
E
The
white
institute
for
racism
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
is
helped
driving
the
the
level
of
black
on
black
violence
in
this
city.
Nationally
and
locally
statistics
shows
that
black
men
are
jobless
in
philadelphia
and
dr
bernie
anderson,
some
of
you
well
know
who's.
A
major
economist
basically
gives
me
these
numbers.
30
percent
of
black
males
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
jobless
up
to
50
percent
of
you
for
jobless
councilman
johnson,
mentioned
about
only
six
percent
of
black
business
ownerships
in
the
city
of
philadelphia.
E
E
If
you
look
at
there's
free
reports
that
was
done,
one
from
the
health
department
called
the
bubbly
brotherly
love
health
and
black
males
and
boys
in
philadelphia
in
that
report.
It's
a
report
about
the
disparity
between
black
males,
particularly
and
black
boys,
compared
to
every
other
ethnic
group
around
the
health
issues.
E
Excuse
me
one
second
diversity,
profile
and
annual
report
about
how
the
lack
of
leadership
position
in
the
kidney
administrations
for
for
black
individuals
and
also
look
at
the
common
city
commerce
report.
I
know
we
have
michael
rashid
on
look
at
their
report
on
economies,
opportunity
report
about
the
lack
of
of
or
dropping
and
black
owned
businesses
getting
city
contracts.
E
So
I'm
saying
when
a
person
is
locked
out
of
inclusion
and
opportunities
that
person
becomes
a
walking
time
bomb
that
can
blow
up
at
any
moment
and
in
most
instances
in
the
city
of
philadelphia,
walking
that
person
is
a
walking
time
bomb
is
a
black
male.
That's
why
shootings
and
homicides
in
philadelphia?
The
major
cause
is
arguments.
E
It's
argument
related
because
people
are
uptight.
So
let
me
end
by
saying
I'm
giving
a
challenge
to
city
council
today
to
think
boldly
and
take
on
this
issue
and
come
up
with
solutions
and
policies
to
change
and
help
close
the
loop
holes
regarding
that
we've
been
caused
by
racism
in
the
city
of
philadelphia.
E
And
yes,
I
understand
very
clearly
that
a
person's
heart
we
can't
change
a
person's
heart
or
what
they
feel,
but
counsel
can
certainly
surely
can
change
and
strike
at
a
structure
underpinning
a
racism
and
public
space
by
developing
initiatives
and
public
policy
that
would
change
the
effect
of
some
racism
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
and
particularly
as
it
relates
to
trying
to
solve
the
violence
problem
in
the
city
of
philadelphia.
E
So
with
that
statement,
councilman
greene,
I
thank
you
once
again
and
the
members
of
council
for
allowing
me
to
open
up
this
session
and
today.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Thank
you,
mr
graham.
I
would
like
to
acknowledge
that
we're
also
been
joined
by
councilmember
kendrick
brooks.
I
did
not
know
that
you
attended
shaw
university
and
you
also
made
reference
to
an
institution
as
close
to
my
heart,
north
carolina
central,
where
my
wife
attended
so
she's,
always
reminding
me
of
how
well
the
eagles
do
in
a
lot
of
different
areas
when
she
talks
about
eagles
he's
talking
about
norcolin
central,
not
philadelphia.
A
So
with
that
I'd
like
to
then
we'll
have
questions
for
mr
qualium
and
other
members
of
this
panel.
Next,
we'll
hear
from
mr
michael
rasheed
our
comments
director
and
then
ms
erica
atwood.
B
B
B
B
B
B
My
friend
miss
erica
edward,
is
going
to
talk
to
you
in
a
few
minutes,
and
she
says
a
lot
of
times
the
following
statement.
She
says
that
investments
we
should
build
coalitions
to
work
for
investments
to
help.
People
who
built
this
country
for
free
did
not
get
a
did,
not
get
a
paid
of
paid
a
penny
for
300
years
to
build
our
country,
and
we
should
make
investments
in
those
people,
and
if
we
do
so,
we
will
have
more
economic
justice
in
our
society.
B
That's
a
message
that
I
that
truly
resonates
resonates
with
me
and
our
commerce
department
takes
that
message
to
the
business
community.
For
too
many
young
people
in
our
city,
opportunity
feels
scarce
and
it
feels
out
of
reach.
Their
reality
is
that
the
rich
are
getting
richer
and
the
poor
are
getting
poorer.
B
B
We
make
meaningful
investments
to
sustain
commercial
corridors
in
our
neighborhoods
commercial
corridors
such
as
germantown
avenue,
woodland
avenue,
girard
avenue,
north
22nd
street
52nd
street
kensington
and
allegheny,
and
many
more
all
have
benefited
from
streetscape
enhancements.
Storefront
improvements
and
more
the
work
we
do
on
commercial
quarters
is
based
on
relationships.
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
A
Thank
you,
mr
rasheed.
Miss
is
that
one.
D
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
testify
today
on
resolution
number
two
one:
zero
one:
six:
nine
on
the
heels
of
the
100th
anniversary
of
the
tulsa
massacre.
Today
I
give
context
to
the
relationship
of
structural
violence,
specifically
poverty
and
a
lack
of
economic
opportunity
to
the
literal
violence.
We
see
that
plague
our
neighborhoods
daily.
D
As
you
may
recall,
in
the
roadmap
to
safer
communities,
we
laid
out
that
gun
violence
in
philadelphia
is
largely
concentrated
in
communities
that
also
experience
structural
violence.
Structural
violence
refers
to
harm
that
individuals,
families
and
communities
experience
from
economic
and
social
structures
that
prevent
prevent
them
from
meeting
basic
needs.
This
includes
social
institutions,
relationships
of
power,
privilege,
inequality
and
inequity.
D
D
The
neighborhoods
that
are
most
vulnerable
to
gun
violence
are
where
young
black
men
and
boys
live.
These
communities
have
experienced
decades
of
discrimination
and
lack
of
investment,
shutting
them
out
of
opportunities.
Businesses,
banks
and
government
agencies
have
often
chosen
not
to
invest
in
black
communities.
D
Black
philadelphians
account
for
forty
four
percent
of
the
city's
population,
yet
only
five
percent
of
small
business,
small
employer
businesses
gun
violence
data
shows
a
correlation
between
neighborhoods
with
concentrated
poverty
and
concentrated
community
violence.
In
these
neighborhoods
schools
may
not
have
been
re,
have
the
resources
they
need
or
infrastructure,
including
housing
and
roads,
may
have
fallen
in
disrepair.
D
Banks
may
not
operate
forcing
community
members
to
rely
on
more
expensive
payday
lenders
or
check
cashing
businesses,
low
graduation
rates
and
high
incarceration
rates
contribute
to
an
unemployment
rate
for
black
males
at
roughly
13
percent.
That
is
more
than
double
the
white
male
unemployment
rate.
Generational
unemployment
that
affects
black
men
may
also
mean
that
young
people
grow
up
without
role
models
or
social
networks
that
could
help
them
successfully
access
sustainable
jobs
and
careers.
D
42
percent
of
households
on
public
assistance
and
the
unemployment
rate
is
roughly
around
thirty
percent.
Thirty.
Five
percent
of
single
parent
homes
translating
to
single
parent
incomes,
single
home
incomes
and
six
percent
have
a
bachelor's
degree
or
higher
this
data
compared
to
communities
with
a
median
income
of
thirty
thousand
dollars
which
experience
on
average,
eleven
percent
of
families
living
below
the
poverty
rate.
D
D
D
D
This
means
looking
beyond
traditional,
allows
analysis
of
violent
crime
and
digging
deeper
into
the
internet,
intersectionality
between
violence
and
other
community
level
indicators
like
poverty,
education,
community,
connectivity,
blight
and
health.
By
doing
so,
we
will
better.
We
will
be
better
positioned
to
explore,
implement
and
evaluate
a
targeted,
targeted
interventions
and
prevention
tactics.
D
D
Providing
pathways
to
more
and
better
opportunities
has
clearly
been
shown
to
interrupt
patterns
of
economic
disadvantage,
thus
interrupting
the
cycle
of
violence.
To
that
end,
smaller
community-based
businesses
play
a
critical
role
in
the
local
workforce,
accounting
for
33
of
the
city's
total
employment
and
while
black
men
and
boys
are
not
are
disproportionately
impacted
by
violence.
Increasingly,
research
tells
us
that
race
is
not
a
risk
factor
in
violence,
structural
racism.
D
That
is
why
we
must
also
focus
on
dismantling
policies
and
practices
that
contribute
to
violence,
such
as
discrimination
and
employment,
lending
housing,
policing
and
unjust
disciplinary
practices
in
schools.
We
must
also
change
the
narrative
and
the
perpetuation
of
negative
perceptions
of
our
young
men
and
boys
warring
away
war.
Waging
a
war
on
gun
violence
isn't
the
answer.
The
answer
is
recognizing
and
restoring
investments
never
made
in
people
that
built
this
country
for
free.
A
Thank
you,
miss
atwood
commerce,
director
rasheed
and
mr
kwayung.
For
today's
testimony
it
was
interesting
both
ms
atwood
and
others
have
talked
this
week
about
the
greenwood
section
of
tulsa
oklahoma
and
this
being
the
100th
anniversary
of
the
tulsa
massacre
and
a
number
of
people
at
a
national
level,
and
even
here
locally
have
talked
about
tulsa.
What's
it's
interesting,
and
I
know
we're
focusing
here
on
the
city
of
philadelphia,
the
connection
of
gun,
violence,
economic
development
and
systemic
racism.
A
When
we
look
at
tulsa
one
that
you
have
a
one
in
16
chance
of
being
a
victim
of
violent
crime
or
property
crime
in
the
city
of
tulsa,
it's
identified
as
one
of
the
more
violent
cities
in
america,
but
also
when
you
look
at
tulsa
from
a
population
perspective,
34
percent
african-americans
who
live
in
tulsa.
A
I
live
in
poverty
compared
to
13
percent
of
white
americans
who
live
in
tulsa,
live
in
poverty,
so
you
can
make
a
direct
connection
of
the
lack
of
economic
investment
from
one
the
massacre
of
the
greenwood
community
of
tulsa.
To
then,
even
when
that
community
was
rebuilt,
you
don't
you
still
had
other
dynamics
of
urban
renewal
that
also
continue
to
devastate
and
shrink
the
greenwood
district
of
tulsa
and
to
where
we
are
now
in
reference
to
economic
development,
poverty
in
that
city.
A
So
I
guess
my
first
question
is
for
any
of
the
panelists.
I
am
well.
Let
me
focus
specifically
on
mr
rashid.
He
talked
about
the
phl,
taking
care
of
business
initiative
and
working
with
returning
citizens
and
also
talking
about
the
fair
change
hiring
initiative.
Can
you
give
some
more
perspective
on
how
the
commerce
department
has
been
working
with
either
anti-violence
or
grassroots
violence?
A
Organizations,
like
mr
clinton,
has
been
involved
in
over
the
years
to
truly
try
to
promote
both
the
business
community
to
hire
more
people
who
are
returning
citizens
and
also
the
opportunities
for
entrepreneurship
that
those
are
doing.
The
grassroots
anti-violence
initiatives
can
then
give
the
opportunity
to
provide
those
who
are
maybe
starting
to
veer
on
a
a
path
that
we
don't
want
them
to
veer
to
can
see
different
perspectives
of
exposure
to
entrepreneurship.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you
councilmember
for
that
question.
We
I
have
members
of
my
staff
here
on
the
line
and
they
can
speak
to
it
in
detail.
B
But
let
me
just
say,
as
I
try
to
indicate
in
my
testimony,
we
see
our
role
as
connecting
the
dots,
we're
the
dot
connector,
because
we
talk
to
businesses
every
day
from
all
types
of
businesses
every
day
and
and
through
our
connection
with
various
entities
all
over
the
city,
whether
it's,
the
philadelp
community
college
of
philadelphia
or
some
of
the
all
of
the
violence
prevention
initiatives
working
with
miss
miss,
edward
and
and
many
many
people
that
she
work
with
works
with.
B
We
we
find
from
them
the
types
of
programs
that
they
are,
that
they
are
working
with
and
the
types
of
people
that
they
are
working
with.
And
so
when
we
talk
to
employers,
employers
say
I
need
this
type
of
people.
I
need
that
type
of
a
person
we
know
where
to
go
to
to
bring
those
type
of
people
to
the
table.
We
actually
make
grants
to
certain
agencies
to
train
people
for
specific,
specific
jobs.
Karen
you
want
to
speak
karen
feckler.
J
Good
morning,
good
morning,
council
good
morning,
I
can
speak
a
little
bit
to
the
fair
chance
hiring
initiative.
J
Specifically,
that
is
a
initiative
that
is
geared
towards
supporting
returning
citizens,
return
who
or
want
to
work,
but
what
it
is
it's
a
way
for
us
to
incentivize
employers,
and
mostly
small
and
medium-sized
businesses,
who
are
need
of
talent
and
open
to
a
diverse
population
to
hire
from,
and
our
workforce
team
works
with
the
employer
and
then
also
with
our
workforce
partners,
and
even
some
of
the
organizations
that
are
community
community-based
to
resource
individuals
to
make
sure
that
they
are
prepared
and
can
and
have
the
supports
in
place
to
be
ready
for
work.
J
So
we
work
specifically
to
connect
the
employers
who
are
incentivized,
but
we
also
have
an
incentive
for
the
individuals
returning
citizens
to
work,
and
these
employers
are
prepared.
They
understand
they
know
what
to
do
as
far
as
flexibility
and
being
sensitive
to
needs
and
maybe
a
flexible
schedule
for
our
individuals
and
they
work
together
purposefully
so
that
there
are
more
opportunities
for
our
returning
citizen
population
to
work.
So
that
is
the
fair
chance
hiring
initiative
which
is
specifically
for
returning
citizens
and
small
and
medium-sized
businesses
located
in
philadelphia.
A
A
D
So
I
think
we're
we're
figuring
out
where
the
entree
point
for
entrepreneurship
is
on
a
number
of
levels,
minutes
in
particular,
and
so
as
we're
looking
at
entrepreneurs
and
small
businesses
as
employers.
How
are
we
connecting
those
individuals
who
are
interested
in
work
and
could
be
matched
with
those
employers?
So
how
are
we
supporting
that
work
of
commerce
and
there's
also
the
notion
of
how
are
we
cultivating
and
developing
young
people
to
be
entrepreneurs?
And
so
how
are
we
saying?
Okay?
Well,
you
have
this
entrepreneurship.
D
You
have
this
hustle
drive.
What
are
we
doing
with
that,
and
how
can
we
cultivate
that
in
a
way
to
make
your
idea
make
money
and
do
it
in
a
way?
So
you
can
be
your
own
boss,
and
so
there
is
a
younger
generation
of
individuals
that
want
to
run
their
own
ships.
They
want
to.
They
want
to
start
their
own
course
and
how
are
we?
We
are
looking
at
ways
that
we
can
support
them
and
give
them
the
tools
and
capacity
building.
They
need
to
be
their
own
to
track
their
own
destiny.
A
And
then
I
have
a
question
for
mr
qualium
from
your
perspective
and
then
one
other
question.
I
see
come
from
dom
also
the
question
as
well:
it's
quiet
from
your
perspective.
A
What
do
you
see
as
the
need
from
the
public
sector
both
from
the
commerce
side,
as
well
as
the
anti-violence
public
safety
perspective,
of
how
people
in
the
community
can
better
benefit
and
bring
these
type
of
service
together,
because
it
seems
like
we're
still
the
starting
stage,
but
we
need
to
have
a
much
deeper
dive
in
making
that
connection
to
show
someone
that
you
know
from
the
work
you've
done
over
the
years.
A
Who's
on
the
corner,
blocking
some
of
those,
as
I
use
miss
adwords
race,
hustle
skills
to
put
that
into
an
entrepreneurial
venture
that
could
help
them
and
also
help
their
community
as
opposed
to
going
into
a
different
path.
A
Miss
william,
I
think
you
are
on
mute
there.
You
go.
E
First
of
all-
and
I
want
to
apologize
if
I
speak
out
a
turn
on
this,
but
we
I'm
I'm
also
chair
of
the
mayor's
commission
on
african-american
males
economic
development
committee,
and
we
have
a
proposal
that
we
have
submitted
to
the
administration
requesting
it's
called
the
the
gap,
growth
advisory
program,
where
we
will
recruit
black
males
from
coming
out
of
the
institutions
as
well
as
other
locations,
and
the
goal
is
to
create
80
new
black
businesses,
blackmail
businesses
per
year.
We
have
a
curriculum.
E
We
have
a
partnership
with
the
business
center,
which
is
you
are
aware
of
counseling
greene
and
also
with
the
west
philadelphia
financial
institute
in
west
philly,
and
they
changed
their
name
to
actually
recruit
and
find
young
men
want
to
come
off
the
corners
and
and
young
men
that
a
lot
of
them
that
are
looking
for
alternatives
which
zap
would
talk
about
about
the
hustle
and
put
it
into
real
businesses.
So
that
is
something
that
we
are
pursuing
to
get
support
from
the
administration
on
with
this
upcoming
budget.
E
How
do
you
connect
the
anti-violence
groups
with
the
city
and
and
the
city's
departments,
that
are,
let's
say,
the
workforce,
development
or
commerce
and
other
and
they're,
not
in
commerce,
but
with
the
larger
white
corporate
community
and
in
philadelphia
that
do
they
should
be
and
and
and
do
a
lot
of
hiring
with
the
institutions
in
the
city?
How
do
you
do
that
connection?
It's
it's.
E
I
think
it's
a
gap
that
still
has
to
be
addressed-
and
I
know
in
all
fairness
to
to
erica
she's,
just
been
on
board
for
a
couple
months,
and
I
understand
that
she's
now
working
her
best
to
to
begin
to
to
work
a
system
to
make
that
connection,
and
I
think
that's
what
it
is
and-
and
you
know
I'm
big
on
folks
might
not
remember.
But
14
years
ago
I
walked
to
harrisburg
under
the
banner
of
jobs,
not
guns.
E
So
I'm
a
big
always
been
a
big
component
that
give
a
guy
a
woman,
a
job
we're
going
to
change
their
lifestyle.
So
I'm
big
on
jobs.
So
we
got.
I
still
think
that
there
might
be
a
disconnection
between
the
anti-violence
groups
that
I
work
with
and
and
the
workforce
development,
but
I
I
know
dad's
beginning
to
have
that
conversation,
and
I
know
the
council,
and
particularly
with
the
leadership
of
president
clark,
is
beginning
to
have
that
conversation.
E
More
and
more
is
how
you
connect
workforce
development
agencies,
philadelphia
works
and
stuff
with
anti-violence
groups
to
support
them
to
help
do
one
training
and
put
them
in
jobs.
E
And
the
last
thing
I
just
want
to
say
on
that
councilman
is
that
something
has
come
emerged
lately
that
it's
hard
to
deal
with,
but
some
guys
we
found
out
or
some
folks-
and
it
was
not
only
the
black
folks
but
across
america
now
don't
want
to
work
because
they're
getting
these
they're
getting
money
from
the
stimulus
checks
and
all
that
and-
and
all
I
mean
that's-
why
you
got
like
chickies
and
peas
last
week
or
two
weeks
ago
had
to
add
they
need
to
hire
200
people
and
they
would
hire
people
on
the
spot
and
that's
across
the
spectrum.
E
I'm
pretty
sure
that
michael
can
talk
about
this
across
the
spectrum
of
all
businesses
in
the
city,
so
we
got
to
address
that
issue
as
well
as
how
do
folks,
who
are
getting
income
and
from
other
sources,
and
that
illegal
source
I
mean
from
legal
sources
and
they
and
they
just
don't
want
to
work.
So
that's
going
to
be
another
hurdle
that
we're
going
to
have
to
address
in
this
city
as
we
move
forward.
All
the
businesses
of
you
know.
E
All
the
restaurants
in
the
city
are
crying
for
workers,
so
that,
but
also,
I
think
we
could
take
that
and
use
that
as
our
advantage
for
us
as
we
could
get
guys
who,
because
the
jobs
are
there
a
lot
of
jobs
that
are
available
now,
so
that
could
be
to
our
advantages.
How
do
we
grab
these
guys
off
the
corners?
E
A
I
have
one
final
question,
but
before
I
go
to
my
last
question,
I'm
gonna
do
a
bit
of
housekeeping
know
that
reverend
gregory
holston
is
also
here
he's
actually
testimony
on
behalf
of
the
district
attorney's
office.
So
after
the
question
from
councilmember,
dom
and
councilmember
kim
will
then
hear
reverend
gregory
holsten
as
a
part
of
this
panel,
and
it
will
open
up
for
additional
questions.
A
But
my
last
question
and
comments
director
richard
you
made
reference
to
life
sciences
in
your
testimony
and
there
was
an
article
I
believe
two
weeks
ago
about
the
growth
of
life
scientists
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
and,
as
we
all
know,
philadelphia
head
is
known
as
the
city
of
eds
and
maids
from
education
healthcare
perspective.
A
So
life
sciences
provides
a
real
opportunity
for
those
who
are
coming
out
of
university
of
pennsylvania,
temple
drexel
to
get
an
opportunity
for
a
research
and
development
family
standing
wage,
but
also
for
those
who
are
not
have
been
coming
out
of
those
institutions
of
higher
learning
for
those
who
get
received
certification
or
some
other
training
coming
out
of
our
high
schools
could
also
have
opportunity
of
getting
a
significant
job.
A
At
the
family,
sustaining
wage
in
the
life
sciences,
space
as
well,
so
the
the
question
I
have
from
that
growth
of
that
industry,
which
provides
some
real
promise
here
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
in
the
region
and
then
looking
at
the
anti-violence
work
that
miss
atwood
is
talking
about
and
also
what
mr
crying
is
talking
about
in
reference
to
his
work.
How
do
we
provide
that
exposure
to
those
young
people
who
are
looking
for
different
things?
A
Maybe
thinking
about
going
to
college
or
maybe
not
thinking
about
going
to
college,
but
have
an
interest
or
just
having
that
exposure
to
the
opportunities
in
this
new
growing
industry
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
like
life,
scientists,
then
also
we
can
get
that
information
to
those
grasses
community
organizations
that
might
mister
kyun
is
talking
about
to
give
them
that
information
to
talk
to
young
people.
After
talking
to
young
people
about
these
opportunities
right.
B
I
can't
think
of
a
other
another
term
booming
area
in
our
city,
university
city
and
all
around
there
and
there's
so
much
is
going
on
and-
and
I
want
to
ask
sarah
if
she
can
talk
about
that-
sarah
stells-
who
has
worked
in
that
area,
but
but
first
I
I
have
to
address
something
that
my
friend
belle
cayenne
said
about
people
don't
want
to
work.
That's
that's!
B
There's
this
thing
out
here
in
the
world
now
that
people
don't
want
to
work
because
the
stimulus
program
is,
you
know
they
get,
they
can
make
more
sitting
at
home
than
they
can
working.
There's
there's
some
there's
some
facts
that
need
to
be
taken
into
account
when
people
hear
that-
and
I
have
to
address
that
first
of
all,
a
lot
of
females,
especially
women
in
our
society,
because
they
don't
have
child
care
and
the
schools
have
not
been
in
session.
B
School
was
out
that
school
was
remote
and
she
was
doing
that
parent
went
to
school,
went
to
work
and
the
child
was
killed,
so
child
care
is
a
lack
of
child
care
is
a
real
issue
for
a
lot
of
people.
While
the
schools
are
closed
and
therefore
they
don't
go
to
work.
Another
reason
people
are
not
wanting
to
go
to
work
is
because
safety,
I
mean
a
lot
of
restaurant
people.
B
People
who
work
in
restaurants
don't
want
to
go
to
work
because
people
when
you
go
to
restaurants,
you
take
off
your
mask
and
I
don't
want
to
be
working
around
a
lot
of
people
with
no
mask
and
I
could
be
catching
covet.
So
that
is
a
concern,
and
even
that
is
even
today,
as
we
are
coming
out
of
the
mass.
There
are
a
lot
of
restaurants
who
are
saying
they
want
to
mandate
that
that
that
people
wear
a
mask
as
much
as
possible
in
the
restaurants,
because
people
are
afraid
to
come
to
work.
B
So
there's
a
lot
of
considerations
why
this
whole
thing
is
out
there
about
people,
don't
want
to
work
and,
and
obviously
it's
the
minimum
wage.
The
minimum
wage
in
philadelphia
and
pennsylvania
is
so
low,
and
if
we
could,
we
could
get
the
state
to
come
up
and
and
and
have
a
decent
minimum
wage
in
our
in
our
city
in
our
in
our
state.
I
think
you
know
people
would
be
more
motivated
to
come
to
work,
but
it's
not
because
people
are
lazy.
B
I
have
to
speak
to
that
myth,
don't
say
don't
say
you
know,
people
just
don't
want
to
work
because
they
want
to
get
a
welfare
check.
So
let
me
ask
sarah:
if
you
can
speak
to
this,
is
your
background
working
in
university
city
and
and
putting
those
kind
of
people
to
work.
So
can
you
speak
to
that?
A
little
bit.
C
Yes,
sir,
I
I
agree
with
mike
that
life
science
is
is
a
burgeoning
industry
and
our
business
development
team
has
a
staff
member
specifically
focused
on
bringing
life
sciences
companies
to
philadelphia,
but
for
life
sciences
to
grow
here
in
philadelphia.
Of
course,
we
need
the
talents
that
that
councilman
green
mentioned
related
to
lab
jobs.
C
And
then
you
need
the
programs,
of
course,
to
train
people
for
those
roles.
But
there
is
an
industry
partnership
that
has
started
over
the
last
year
by
the
chamber
in
partnership
with
philadelphia
works.
So
I
would
like
to
invite
pat
clancy
to
speak.
I
believe
he's
on
the
line.
Pat,
is
the
president
of
philadelphia
works
for
the
city's
workforce
board
to
add
more
detail
on
that
sure.
H
C
You
good
morning,
everybody
thank
you
for
for
having
me
join
the
conversation
today,
which
is
really
a
critical
issue,
is
how
do
we
get
individuals
into
good,
paying
jobs
with
long-term
careers,
and
one
of
the
things
we're
working
with
the
greater
philippine
chamber
is
funding
an
industry
partnership
which
enables
the
chamber
to
kind
of
drill
down
into
those
life
science,
companies
that
are
growing
in
our
region.
C
A
C
C
How
do
we
build
those
pipelines
into
those
various
occupations
and
and
some
of
it's
entry-level-
some
it's
mid-level,
but
not
missing
the
opportunity
for
us
as
a
region
to
kind
of
make
sure
that
as
life
sciences
are
growing
either
in
university
city
or
at
the
navy
yard
that
we
have
a
pool
of
applicants
that
are
beginning
now
to
learn
and
understand
what
stem
is
and
so
we're
working
with
the
chamber
on
that.
But
you
know
just
going
back
to
what
sarah
said
you
know
the
most.
The
most
successful
models
have
been
when
employers
are
engaged.
C
You
know
we
can
do
all
the
data
collection
we
want,
but
when
we
are
working
with
employers
directly
and
they
help
us
shape
sort
of
the
curriculum
and
you
know
and
sort
of
how
to
get
people
ready.
That
is
where
we're
most
successful,
and
I
think
that's
why
you
know
our
strong
working
relationship
with
the
commerce
department
and
the
chamber
really
has
provided
benefits
and
and
hopefully,
as
we
build
these
models
out.
We,
you
know
life.
Science
is
one,
but
we
also
have
a
hospitality
one.
We
also
have
an
advanced
manufacturing
one.
C
We
have
a
financial
sector,
one
in
a
smaller
version,
may
see
with
bankworks
and
oic,
so
we're
beginning
to
look
at
all
our
critical
industries
and
and
seeing
where
we
can
begin
to
sort
of
map
it
out.
So
we
can
have
better
opportunities
for
people.
A
A
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
philadelphia
works
is
engaged
in
this
concept
regarding
life
sciences,
but
the
challenge
is
that
that,
if
that
research
is
being
done,
but
that
information
not
getting
the
people
in
the
community
to
know
that
hey,
if
I'm,
if
I'm
a
person,
that's
doing
a
initiative
or
program
on
my
block
in
my
community-
and
I
know
that
there's
this
opportunity
for
jobs
and
life
sciences-
and
I
know
some
young
people
that
I
come
encounter
with-
that
are
interested
in
biology
or
I
see
them
always
asking
me
about.
A
You
know
signs
of
this
issue
or
that
issue
they're
asking
about
you
know
I'm
garrett,
morgan
and
grant
granville
t
woods
are
just
interested
in
just
stem
or
just,
and
I
just
see
that
aptitude.
I
think
it's
at
that
grassroots
level
that
people
need
to
know
about
this
work
because
then
they
can
say.
Listen.
I
have
some
young
people
that
need
to
be
exposed
to
this,
because
I
can
see
they
have
an
interest
in
this
field
and
I
think
that's
ultimately
what
has
happened.
I
know
for
me
from
my
experience
at
inroads.
A
I
know
people
went
through
prime
and
a
whole
bunch
of
other
programs.
You
know
over
the
years
going
back
to
the
70s
and
80s,
but
it's
that
opportunity
for
exposure
for
those
who
are
closely
connected
to
young
people
can
say
hey.
There
is
a
program
that
talks
about
or
is
interested
or
it
can
give
you
some
more
information
or
maybe
give
you
a
career
path
based
on.
A
I
can
see
what
you're
interested
in,
because
you're
always
by
you,
know,
barring
your
grandfather's,
magnifying
glass
or
some
other
type
of
thing,
because
you're
interested
in
science
or
the
tv
or
to
set
yours
on
your
phone,
that's
the
disconnect,
that's
not
occurring
and
that's
what
needs
to
occur
now.
I
want
to
recognize
councilmember
dom
and
then
count
on
the
game
for
questions.
C
Good
morning,
mr
chair,
thank
you
and
thank
you,
everybody
who's
on
the
panel.
I
just
have,
I
guess,
a
couple,
quick
questions
to
commerce
director,
michael
rashid.
Can
you
share
with
us
the
total
number
of
dollars
the
city
currently
commits
to
on
an
annual
basis
for
the
small
rack
and
round
business
grant
programs.
B
I
can
get
that
I
can
get
that
number
for
you,
council,
member,
but
the
whole
city.
I
don't
have
that
handy,
but
I
can
get
it
for
you.
C
C
Follow-Up
to
that,
if
you
could
do
this
little
study,
maybe
in
your
opinion
the
commerce's
opinion
how
much
additional
grant
dollars
into
the
programs
could
really
change
the
trajectory
of
that
so
like
so,
we
have
an
idea
of
like
from
the
commerce
department.
What
are
we
spending
now?
How
do
we
change
the
trajectory?
How
much
money
will
that
cost
us,
and
how
do
we
go
about
doing
that?
If
you
can
come
back
to
this
committee
with
that
information,
be,
I
think,
helpful
for
us?
Okay.
Well,
thank
you!
C
C
This,
I
think,
speaks
to
what
chairman
green
was
talking
about
the
jobs
we've
created
in
philadelphia,
60.5
60.5
pay
less
than
35
000
we're
actually
creating
a
tremendous
amount
of
low
income
jobs,
and
when
you
compare
us
to
the
top
25
cities,
that's
28
percent
for
the
cities,
we're
double
that
and
then,
when
you
compare
us
to
the
us
they're
at
29
and
again
we're
double
and
the
category
where
we're
falling
far
behind
is
in
the
light.
C
Besides,
investing
in
our
tax
structure
to
create
more
jobs,
but
also
education
and
violence
and
so
forth,
would
it
make
sense
for
us
at
this
point
of
time
to
really
make
the
investment
something
I've
been
talking
about
for
five
years
and
make
mandatory
in
our
school
system
for
prevention,
teaching
from
pre-k
to
12th
grade
teach
that
financial
literacy
teach
that
technology
that
we
all
have
realized
is
so
crucial
and
teach
entrepreneurship.
C
The
country
of
israel
teaches
entrepreneurship
28
of
their
graduates
go
into
their
own
businesses.
It
does
work.
Think
about
you
know,
I'm
thinking
of
myself
as
an
example.
I
never
was
a
great
student,
but
I
always
liked
things
that
were
of
interest
to
me,
and
maybe
we
just
have
to
find
that
for
every
one
of
our
students,
what
is
of
interest
to
them
and
for
many
of
them
it
could
be
entrepreneurship.
You
could
change
that
trajectory
because,
right
now
the
formation
of
our
black
and
brown
businesses
in
the
city
is
abysmal.
C
So
this
is
just
one
thought
and
I
don't
want
to
put
it
out
there.
Maybe
this
is
part
of
the
investment
we
make
and
we
won't
see
the
benefits
of
this
for
the
next
five
or
ten
years,
but
you
will
see
the
benefits
in
15
20
years.
It
is
a
long-term
outlook
and
we
thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
appreciate
this
committee.
Thank
you
very
much.
G
Yes,
thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair.
First
of
all,
I
just
wanted
to
you
know
thank
the
commerce
department
and
and
heloise
for
doing
a
brief
overview
on
the
fair
chance
hiring
initiative.
G
This
is
an
area
that
I've
been
keenly
interested
in
in
part
because
it
it
shifts
around
some
of
our
thinking
on.
Traditionally,
we
had
worked
closely
with
sylvie
on
on
tracking
the
evolution
of
the
program.
G
So
initially
it
came
in
the
form
of
tax
credits
to
employers
who
hire,
formerly
incarcerated
individuals,
and
then
the
commerce
department
switched
it
from
a
tax
credit
on
the
back
end
to
a
grant
on
the
front
end
and
it
seemed
to
be
far
more
successful,
and
so
we
were
talking
initially
with
the
commerce
department
about
given
the
success
of
the
program
to
what
it
to
what
extent
it
might
be
expanded
as
the
budget
permits
in
this
post-covet
environment,
but
also
you
know,
to
deal
with
vulnerable
youth.
G
For
example,
we've
been
looking
at
the
importance
of
guaranteed
employment
support
for
small
businesses
who
engage
young
people
who
are,
for
example,
in
the
top
10
zip
codes,
most
impacted
by
gun,
violence
or
who
attend.
G
One
of
the
25
schools,
where
50
of
the
youth
who've
been
shot
in
the
last
22
years,
have
been
in
attendance,
so
I'm
interested
in
hearing.
You
know,
from
your
perspective
a
little
bit
more
about
the
fair
chance,
hiring
initiative
and
the
possibility
of
expansion.
G
If,
for
example,
council
were
to
include
it
and
whether
the
department
in
particular
would
be
interested
or
see
any
possibilities
in
the
relationships
that
you've
built
through
the
small
businesses,
you've
worked
with
to
potentially
expand
it
support
small
businesses
locally
and
help
us
engage
and
employ
vulnerable
at-risk
individuals.
B
Great
first
of
all,
thank
you
for
your
for
your
comments
and
you're
right.
That
is,
that
is
a
wonderful
program.
It
has
shown
much
greater
effectiveness
than
some
of
the
tax
tax
credit
programs
and
also
much
easier
to
administer
heloise.
You
want
to
talk
more
about
how
we're
going
to
expand
the
fair
chance
program.
J
I'm
good
good
morning
as
far
as
expansion,
so
we
have.
We
have
the
funds.
We
need
more
people
prepared
for
the
employers
that
we
have.
We've
got
a
lot
of
really
strong
businesses,
strong
employers
that
are
in
need
of
talent.
J
What
we
are
endeavoring
to
do
as
far
as
expansion
is
widening,
our
network
of
where
we
get
talent
from
whether
it's
from
small
grassroots
organizations
that
are
preparing
individuals
that
are
providing
those
support
services-
and
you
know
cultivating
that
culture
with
the
folks
that
are
ready
to
work
in
a
progressive
way,
so
that
we
can,
you
know,
offer
them
as
viable
candidates
to
our
employer
partners.
That's
the
expansion
that
we
need.
J
We
all
know
very
well
that
we
can
name
as
well
as
those
that
are
in
the
communities
where
these
businesses
are
located,
that
they
understand
what
is
needed,
that
the
the
basic,
the
basic
tenets
of
work,
readiness
that
we
need
for
our
individuals
to
be
prepared
for
those
particular
positions
and
then
them
understanding
the
positions
that
these
employers
have
so
expansion
in
that
in
that
regard,
is
where
we're
going.
G
Okay,
and
are
you
is
there
are,
is
the
department
if
it
were
to
get
additional
funding?
Could
you
expand
it
beyond
in
addition
to
formally
incarcerated
residents
or
returning
citizens?
G
B
G
One
of
the
things
that
we've
been
discussing
a
little
bit
has
been
the
need
for
that
in
that
intermediary
that
I
think
heloise
is
discussing
the
and
I-
and
I
don't
think
it's
like
you
know
you
individuals
just
land
at
a
non-profit
and
then
they
go
into
business,
and
then
you
know
there's
like
a
happily
ever
after
story.
That's
written!
I
think
it's
a
lot
about
that.
The
role
that
commerce
can
do
to
help
with
the
the
mentoring
and
or
support
network
as
an
individual
is
re-entering
and
coming.
G
You
know
from
being
like,
say,
disengaged,
you
know
from
systems
of
care
and
employment
and
then
moving
between
like
mentoring
and
then
back
you
know
into
workforce,
but
always
having
a
place
to
land.
In
case
people
encounter,
as
we
all
very
well
know
racism,
discrimination
on
the
job.
You
know
frustrations
or
other
types
of
things
that
they
might
experience.
So
I'm
I'm
will
be
continued
to
be
interested
in
the
fair
chance
hiring
initiative,
the
more
data
that
you
can
share
with
this
council
body.
G
I
know
that
all
of
us
are
interested
in
things
that
work
and
to
hear
people
say
that
there
is
demand
that
businesses
are
eager
to
hire
returning
citizens
and
what
we
need
is
to
find
more
people
is
a
great
place
for
us
to
be
able
to
delve
deep
to
partner
with
our
community
organizations,
and
I
think
you're
hearing
from
myself-
and
I
know
our
chair-
have
a
deep
commitment
to
the
commerce
department
right
now
to
really
see
some
creative
successful
programming,
because
I
think
working
on
the
things
that
are
working
for
us
is
really
important
understanding.
G
What
why
they
work.
What's
appealing
to
people
about
it
and
then
figuring
out
how
to
make
the
meet?
What
is
needed
within
communities,
because
we've
we've
definitely
got
need
in
communities
we
had.
For
example,
in
2019
there
were
20
000
applicants
to
the
youth
ready
program.
I
mean
to
the
work
ready
program
through
a
philadelphia
youth
network.
There
were
8
000
slots,
so
there
is
definitely
a
need
and
if
there's
a
partnership,
maybe
those
are
areas
where
you
can
meet
those
employers.
G
We
can
manage
things
for
your
small
businesses.
Make
sure
that
the
you
know
the
relationship
and
the
program
is
successful
and
healthy
for
both
ends,
and
I
you
know
again
want
to
just
commit
and
first
of
all,
thank
the
commerce
department
for
its
work
on
the
fairtrans
hiring
initiative,
but
also
make
a
commitment
that
our
office
is,
is
an
eager
partner
to
help
make
it
as
a
model
for
our
city
and,
if
not
for
our
country.
So
thank
you.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
commitment,
council
member
members
of
my
staff,
who
are
on
the
line.
They
can
tell
you
that
they
hear
from
me
all
the
time
that
we
have
to
do
a
better
job
of
telling
our
story
not
only
to
to
the
public,
but
also
to
to
the
city
council,
to
you
to
you
folks,
and
so
we're
committed
to
do
that,
and
we
will.
We
will
do
what
you
suggested.
D
Thank
you
and
to
address
some
of
the
some
of
the
opportunities
that
exist
that
are
in
place
that
need
to
be
implemented
specifically
supporting
individuals
who
haven't
been
impacted
by
the
criminal
justice
system
in
our
office
of
reentry
partners.
We
have
the
we,
we
are
sending
up
the
neighborhood
resource,
centers
part
of
the
work
of
the
neighborhood
resource.
Centers
is
the
wrap
around
services
for
individuals
who
are
being
released
from
incarceration
and
on
supervision.
They
will
not
only
have
probation
and
parole
there,
but
the
model
has
there's
mentoring
there.
D
There
are
job
training
supports
there.
There
is
that
connectivity
that
exists
that
that
we
can
build,
we
can
have
a
physical
infrastructure
for,
and
so
there
is
work
that
is
happening
to
focus
on
individuals
who,
our
friends
our
neighbors,
help
my
cousins,
who
are
coming
out
of
incarceration,
who
are
on
supervision
who
need
those
supports.
The
other
thing
is
is,
as
we
think
about
that
connectivity
who
those
credible
folks
are
to
fill
that
gap.
D
We
are
very
comfortable
in
hiring
of
search
forms
for
executive
level
positions,
but
how
can
we
incentivize
individuals
who
have
connectivity
to
folks
on
the
street
that
can
fill
these
jobs
that
be
those
those
recruiters
so
to
speak,
to
make
sure
that
they
are
connecting
the
individuals
they
know
to
the
jobs
that
exist
and
how
are
we
training
that
those
middle
ground
folks
to
be
those
connectivity
and
incentivizing
them
the
same
way?
We'd
incentivize,
some
large
search,
firm.
G
Chairman
green,
can
I
just
have
a
quick
point
of
clarification
for
erica?
Would.
A
G
Thank
you
and
thank
thank
you
that
that
well
one
I,
I
absolutely
believe
that
that
the
city's
been
doing
a
much
better
job
around
supports.
Do
you
are
you
connected
at
all
with
the
fair
transferring
initiative
through
the
commerce
department
or.
D
Yeah,
so
we
are
so
in
two
ways:
one
heloise
and
zakia
attend
our
tactical
meetings
on
a
weekly
basis,
and
I
talked
to
one
of
them
several
times
a
week.
We
are
figuring
out
ways
that
we
can
build
a
strategy
short
term
and
long
term,
so
support
individuals
that
are
impacted
by
violence
and
or
the
criminal
justice
system.
And
when
I
say
impacted,
I
mean
victims,
perpetrators
and
witnesses
in
neighborhoods
that
are
particularly
oppressed
by
racism
and
poverty.
G
And
do
you
feel,
like
you
know,
among
the
areas
that
were
we're
also
taking
a
look
at,
although
this
is
sometimes
a
little
bit
harder,
but
you
know
would
that
also
include
like,
for
example,
young
people
at
the
juvenile
justice
system,
so
either
those
that
are
returning
from
placement?
G
Those
who
are
you
know
who've
been
in
you
know,
even
in
some
some
of
them,
some
of
them
obviously
are
like
youth
who've
been
placed
in
in
adult
prisons,
unfortunately
in
pennsylvania,
which
needs
to
end,
but
but
in
pri.
Primarily,
we
are
looking
at
youth
in
residential
placement
because
when
they
come
back
some
of
these
placement
facilities,
unfortunately,
with
a
lack
of
oversight
that
we've
got
right
now
at
the
at
the
state
level,
the
abuses
that
have
been
significantly
documented
in
media
repeatedly.
G
These
are
supposed
to
be
places
where
young
people
can
find
support,
mentoring,
healing
and
instead
are
not
so
they
are.
They
are
replicating
a
abusive
penal
adult
penal
system
and
I'm
wondering
if
there's
a
means
for
us
to
find
considerable
and
continued
landing
spaces.
G
But
definitely
we
have
you
know
thousands
about
a
thousand
youth
at
any
given
time
over
the
course
of
the
year
who
might
be
placed
in
residential
placement,
either
through
dhs
or
through
the
through
the
court
system,
sometimes
through
mental
health,
but
primarily
through
dhs.
G
At
this
point-
and
it's
just
asking
for
your
partnership
to
to
think
about
supports
for
them
through
the
fair
chance
hiring
and
then
the
last
thing
I'll
just
say
is
that
you
know
when
our
young
people
are
separated
from
their
families
at
a
very
young
age
and
they
go
into
places
and
they're
not
cared
for
and
the
state
doesn't
have
oversight
and
god
help
us
if
they
suffer
any
amount
of
like
violence
or
physical
abuse
in
these
facilities.
G
But
it
would
be
naive
for
us
to
think
that
they
don't
either
at
least
witness
it
in
some
of
these
places,
if
not
suffer
from
it
directly,
either
way.
They're
coming
back
to
us
hurt
and
angry
and,
and
some
of
them
are
are
then
pursuing.
You
know
are
involved
in
the
in
the
gun,
violence.
We
know
the
numbers
are
are
getting
younger.
Many
of
us
have
been
shocked
by
the
age
range
of
some
of
the
folks
who
are
young
people
who
are
there,
but
we
need
re-engagement.
G
We
need
reconnection
and
we
have
very
few
landing
places
for,
for,
for
youth,
in
particular,
so
would
just
urge
the
commerce
department
you
know
erica.
Just
let's
maintain
a
partnership
on
this
and
well.
I
know
we'll
continue
to
figure
this
out.
So
thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair.
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
kim.
I
want
to
also
recognize
reverend
gregory
holston
from
the
district
attorney's
office.
I
thought
we
did
not
realize
he
was
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
district
attorney's
office.
I
believe
he
is
on.
K
My
name
reverend
gregory
holston.
I
am
the
senior
pastor
of
james
memorial,
united
methodist
church
and
also
a
member
of
black
clergy,
as
well
as
the
seniors.
A
If
you
could
hold
on
one
moment
on
what
I
was
saying
is
that,
after
you
finish,
your
testimony
will
then
open
up
questions
for
you
and
any
other
additional
questions
that
our
members
accounts
may
have
for
this
entire
panel
and
then
from
there
we'll
go
on
to
our
next
panel.
So
please
once
again
state
your
name
for
the
record
and
then
proceed
with
your
testimony.
K
Thank
you
councilman.
My
name
is
reverend
gregory
holsen,
I'm
the
senior
senior
pastor
for
james
memorial,
united
methodist
church
in
the
germantown
section
of
philadelphia,
I'm
also
a
member
of
black
clergy,
and
also
the
senior
adviser
on
policy
and
advocacy
for
the
philadelphia
district
attorney's
office,
I'm
not
sure
exactly
who
I'm
testifying
for.
K
We
have
said-
and
I
have
said
over
and
over
that
as
erica
said
earlier,
gun
violence
really
is
a
symptom
of
the
systematic
racism
and
poverty
that
is
in
our
country,
that
you
cannot
really
talk
about
gun
violence
unless
you're
talking
about
the
250
years
of
slavery,
the
hundred
years
of
jim
crow,
the
hundred
years
of
redlining
of
our
of
our
areas
in
philadelphia,
north
philadelphia
and
west
philadelphia,
in
particular
the
60
years
of
massive
disinvestment
that
has
left
parts
of
north
philadelphia,
looking
like
bombed
out
a
bombed
out
war
zone.
K
50
years
of
war
on
drugs,
that,
from
all
evidence,
was
really
more
of
a
war
on
black
people,
40
years
of
mass
incarceration
and
and
and
this
last
many
years
of
10,
10
years
of
disinvestment
in
our
our
schools
in
terms
of
closing
23
of
our
schools,
mostly
in
black
and
brown
communities
that
have
left
our
areas
as
these
schools
or
major
major
hubs
economically
in
every
other
way
for
those
communities
devastated
by
the
loss.
K
All
of
those
things,
including
this
pandemic
over
the
last
year,
has
led
to
this
escalation
of
this
chronic
problem
of
gun
violence.
This
escalation
that
we
are
dealing
with
now,
there's
499
murders
from
last
year,
2,
300,
shootings
and
now
to
even
a
greater
level
at
this
time
this
year,
already
200
homicides,
and
so
what
what?
What
do
we
do?
I
applaud
all
of
the
efforts
listed
here
by
the
commons
department.
I
brought
all
of
the
efforts
here
to
get
people
into
jobs.
K
I
apply
all
the
efforts
that
are
being
tried
and
and
and
and
trying
to
do,
but
I
agree
with
really
what
I
heard
state
senator
hugh
say
just
a
couple
of
weeks
ago.
We
are
at
a
dramatic
point
right
now.
We
are
at
a
generational
point
in
our
nation
right
now
this,
unlike
any
other
that
I
have
experienced
or
many
people
have
experienced.
K
Maybe
since
the
1960s,
the
american
recovery
act
is
doing
exactly
what
it
said
is
helping
america
to
recover
and
the
1.4
billion
dollars
that
our
city
has
received
from
the
american
recovery
act
and
the
1.4
million
dollars
that
our
school
districts
have
received.
K
The
state
budget
now
has
a
three
billion
dollar
surplus
just
three
on
two
months
ago,
three
months
ago,
it
had
no
surplus,
but
when
you
put
dollars
into
the
pockets
of
regular
people,
those
dollars
bubble
up
and
and
add
coffers
and
more
revenue
for
our
governments,
and
not
only
that
they
still
have
seven
a
7.2
billion
dollars
from
the
recovery
act,
and
so
these
kinds
of
dollars
we
have
not
seen-
and
it
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
do
something-
really
different-
around
systematic
racism,
poverty
and
gun
violence
that
we
have
not
done
before.
K
That's
why
I
applaud
all
the
programs,
but
we
need
to
do
something
more
drastic.
The
reality
is
that,
still
today,
that
a
a
white
high
school
dropout
makes
more
money
than
a
black
college
graduate.
If
education
was
the
only
issue
here,
if
training
was
the
only
issue
here,
if
job
training
was
only
issue
here,
you
would.
K
A
statistic
like
that,
where
the
even
the
trained
and
the
educated
black
person
is
making
less
than
the
less
trained
and
less
educated
white
person,
and
one
of
the
reasons
for
that
is
that
we
have
not
in
the
black
community
and
the
events
like
tulsa,
make
it
very
clear.
We
have
not
developed
the
kinds
of
systems
because
we've
been
systematically
denied
institutions
in
our
community
that
allow
for
those
to
have
jobs
that
are
controlled
by
the
black
community.
We
have
not
built
a
black
distribution
system.
K
We
have
not
built
a
black
wholesale
house
system.
We
have
not
built
a
system
where
black
products
are
brought
to
market.
We
have
not
built
enough
outlets
enough
stores
to
to
be
able
to
handle
those
products
you
go
into
asian
community.
You
go
into
their
stores.
K
You
see
products
that
are
only
in
those
stores
because
they
have
systematically
developed
a
distribution
system
for
those
products
you
go
into
even
to
a
latino
store,
you'll
see
products
that
are
only
in
latino
stores
because
they
have
developed
a
system,
a
distribution
system
for
that
and
and
and
we
have
to
take
the
revenue
or
the
monies-
that
we
are
getting
right
now
that
that
once
we
give
100
million
for
gun
violence,
once
we
do,
the
other
kinds
of
things
is
necessary.
K
We
have
to
take
some
of
that
money
to
really
start
to
lay
down
and
create
a
black
distribution
system
for
black
products,
so
that
our
black
unemployment
problem,
and
which
in
some
parts
of
our
city
is
50
percent,
got
that
those
individuals
can
come
in
and
learn
about
how
to
make
economics
work.
K
And
we
need
to
be
able
to
do
that
and
create
that
not
only
teach
about
it
but
make
it
happen
in
this
city.
For
those
who
are
craving
for
opportunities
who
are
not
necessarily
skilled
to
go
on
to
higher
education,
but
are
strong
and
powerful
entrepreneurs
that
need
greater
opportunity
and
greater
hope.
And
so
I'm
just
proposing
this.
This
one
suggestion
of
doing
something
really
different,
and
I
believe
and
that's
why
I'm
glad
councilman
green.
K
You
came
back
on
because
I
wanted
to
applaud
you
again
for
the
public
bank,
because
this
is
the
kind
of
thing
a
public
bank
can
do.
Help
us
build
a
real
black
distribution
system
within
the
city
of
philadelphia.
Help
raise
the
dollars,
help
leverage
governmental
dollars
to
raise
other
dollars
so
that
we
can
produce
that
system.
That
would
allow
us
to
be
able
to
employ
our
own
people
and
be
able
to
deal
with
this
gap
where
white
and
white
white
high
school
dropouts
make
more
than
even
black
college
graduates.
A
Thank
you
for
your
testimony.
Are
there
any
other
questions
from
members
of
council
for
on
this
panel.
A
All
right,
seeing
and
hearing
none
from
members
of
council,
we
will
now
move
forward
to
the
next
panel.
Mr
I
knew
they
can
re.
Please
read
the
names,
the
next
panelists
and
once
we
begin,
please
state
your
name
for
the
record
and
then
proceed
with
your
testimony.
A
Thank
you,
mr
inuzi.
We
will
go
in
that
order
and,
mr
carter,
if
you
can
start
and
state
your
name
and
proceed
with
your
testimony,.
L
William
carter,
vice
president
of
government
affairs
for
the
chamber
of
commerce
for
greater
philadelphia.
This
is
our
testimony
for
the
hearing.
First
of
all,
good
morning,
councilman
green
members
of
the
committee.
Once
again,
I'm
william
carter,
vice
president
of
local
government
affairs
for
the
chamber
of
commerce
for
greater
philadelphia.
L
Businesses
recently
announced
that
100
million
dollar
effort
to
increase
investments
with
black
and
brown
businesses
and
we're
working
in
collaboration
with
council
and
the
mayor
on
an
inclusive
to
shape
an
inclusive
growth
budget
that
will
use
american
rescue
plans
to
make
investments
in
equity
and
job
growth.
L
L
If
you
think
about
it,
everyone
wants
the
same
thing:
to
pursue
happiness,
to
take
care
of
themselves
and
their
loved
ones
and
to
be
able
to
live
their
quote-unquote
best
lives.
As
an
example,
a
lot
of
young
residents
are
into
hip-hop
like
I
am
hip-hop
is
a
lifestyle
when
something's
a
lifestyle.
Everything
in
life
relates
to
it.
It
relates
to
everything
everything
in
life.
It
relates
to
the
way
people
live.
It
relates
to
how
people
live.
It
relates
to
basics,
like
clothing,
food,
shelter.
It
relates
to
extras
like
communications,
transportation
and
recreation.
L
The
hip-hop
culture
relates
to
everything
in
life.
It
simply
is
a
lifestyle
and
madison
avenue
knows
this
more
and
more
they're,
using
hip-hoppers
and
and
hip-hop
lifestyle
to
sell
products
to
that
lifestyle.
They
sell
what
we
buy,
they
from
low
end
to
top
shelf.
They
make
what
hip-hoppers
wear
they
manufacture
with
hip-hoppers
drive.
They
they
advertise
where
hip-hoppers
should
go
and
they
tell
hip-hoppers
what
to
spend
money
on.
L
They
are
selling
a
hip-hop
lifestyle
which
should
be
instilled
in
our
hip-hop
generation
is
if
they
can
buy
it,
they
can
create
it,
manufacture
it
and
sell
it.
We
struggle
with
trying
to
find
alternatives
to
the
streets
with
implementing
an
array
of
social
programs
directed
at
educating
youth.
We
scramble
to
find
things
to
occupy
time
for
our
inner
city,
youth.
L
What
I
know
all
of
you
know
what
we
must
do
more
of
is
create
more
opportunity
and
in
many
instances
we
have,
but
we
have
to
do
more
and
it
takes
more
than
just
creating
the
opportunity.
We
can't
just
say:
hey
here's
an
opportunity
take
advantage
of
it.
We
have
to
do
a
better
job
of
highlighting
the
path
towards
opportunity
and
instill.
The
mindset
that
people
can
take
advantage
of
the
opportunities
available.
L
It's
telling
them
that
there's
no
insurmountable
divide
between
a
creator
of
textiles
and
themselves
between
a
cellular
phone
provider
and
themselves,
especially
especially
if
we
work
together.
They
must
know
that
they
can
be
the
lifestyle
lifeline
of
the
lifestyle.
I
think
world
famous
entrepreneur
and
hip-hopper
jay-z
put
it
best
when
he
said.
If
someone
would
have
told
ho,
he
could
sell
clothing
not
in
his
lifetime.
L
Wasn't
in
my
right
mind-
and
that's
gave
me
pause
to
think
you
know
a
lot
of
people
if
they
are
of
the
mindset
that
they
can
do.
Things
can
see
things
outside
of
what
they
normally
would
see
and
the
opportunities
are
shown
to
them.
L
They
could
get
in
the
right
mind,
and
there
are
multitudes
of
talented
youth
out
here,
who
simply
need
to
be
shown
that,
if
they're
ever
the
right
mindset,
they
can
take
advantage
of
the
opportunities
improve
their
quality
of
life
and
the
private
and
public
sector
should
be
at
the
forefront
of
such
mind.
Setting
we
should
be
professional
mindsetters,
our
youth
can
be
empowered.
Our
youth
can
be
successful.
Enterprise
can
build
successful
enterprises,
they
can
be
the
creators
of
not
just
the
consumer
and
not
just
the
consumers
of
the
lifestyle.
L
L
One
million
two
million
three
million
four
in
13
months,
30
million
more-
and
if
you
add
that
up
to
the
number
he
said
before,
you're
now
looking
at
one
smart,
black
boy
and
that's
something
that
we
need
to
take
to
heart
in
terms
of
our
youth
out
here,
showing
them
new
opportunities
showing
them
that
there
are
alternatives
to
what
they
have
seen
and
the
public
and
private
sector.
We
need
to
be
at
the
forefront
of
it.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
mr
carter.
I
will
have
questions
for
this
panel
after
the
other
witnesses
on
this
panel
testified.
Mr
news,
I
believe
our
next
witness
to
testify
is
eric
williams.
I'm,
mr
williams,
if
you
can
please
state
your
name
for
the
record
and
then
proceed
with
your
testimony.
Okay,
good
morning,
can
you
hear
me?
Okay,
we
can
hear
you.
M
Thank
you
okay,
good
day,
my
name
is
eric
williams.
I'm
testifying
today
in
support
of
resolution
number
210169.
Thank
you.
Councilman
green,
for
this
invitation.
M
M
mike
monroe,
is
the
owner
and
operator
of
espn
hair
zone
located
5921
29
west
garage
mike
has
been
a
barbershop
shop
owner
for
over
27
years
and
has
an
unbelievable
passion
to
invest
and
improve
the
quality
of
lives
for
our
next
generation.
The
university,
the
university
of
pennsylvania,
school
of
nursing
partnered
with
espn
arizona
a
few
years
ago
to
conduct
a
pilot
study
focusing
on
gun
violence
and
high
crime
neighborhoods
in
philadelphia.
M
Today.
It's
the
only
study
in
the
united
states,
funded
by
the
national
institute
for
child
and
human
development
shape
up,
is
a
three-month
six-part
curriculum
held
at
espn
hair
zone
every
first
and
third
monday
from
seven
to
nine
pm.
You
may
ask
yourself
why,
at
the
barber
shop?
Well,
it's
simple
all
of
you
know.
M
This
alone
makes
the
barbershop
the
perfect
setting
for
shape
up
k-pop,
hosted
an
open
house
soft
launch
march
7
through
may
17
for
eight
youth.
The
dialogue
shared
between
the
youth
and
the
mentors
has
been
unbelievable
when
acts
some
of
the
participants
couldn't
even
remember
the
last
time
they
had
a
hug
or
someone
told
them,
they
loved
them.
M
As
a
result,
by
the
time
they
experienced
life
in
the
streets,
they
are
detached
from
their
emotional
state
which,
from
there
they
become
at
risk,
my
belief
you're
at
risk
when
you
leave
your
home
because
it's
not
guaranteed
in
today's
society.
Your
return
shape
up
official
launch
is
monday
june,
the
7th.
Since
our
first
soft
launch,
we
have
ex-offenders
judges,
parole
officers,
accounting
lawyers
and
business
owners
who
are
currently
in
training
to
become
mentors
to
create
internship
and
employment
opportunities.
M
We
have
a
parole
officer,
sent
a
participant
via
a
court
co-order
and
is
working
to
have
shape
up
as
a
resource
in
the
judicial
system.
Shapeof
is
facilitating
a
two-hour
five-week
session
at
friary
charter
middle
school
for
fifth
to
eighth
graders
we're
in
negotiations
with
west
ville
high
and
several
other
schools
have
expressed
interest
and
have
stated
the
teachers
and
councils
are
not
equipped
to
teach
such
programs
and
outside
sources
such
as
shape-up
are
necessary.
M
Talks
have
been
even
discussed
to
have
shape-up
implemented
in
hbcus
as
part
of
the
community
development
series.
All
of
the
group
mentions
fit
the
demographic.
However,
in
order
to
affect
effectively
maximize
this
endeavor
funding
is
required.
Financially.
Supporting
programs
such
as
shapewear
would
serve
as
a
way
to
regain
our
communities.
M
This
multi,
this
multi-year
plan,
not
only
support,
shape
up
shape
up,
will
provide
funding
a
funding
stream
for
other
gun
violence
and
community-based
organizations.
For
these.
Not
for
this
not
to
have
a
strategic
plan
in
place
while
lives
are
being
lost.
Daily
is
unacceptable,
and
it
pains
me
to
text
my
friend
and
colleague,
derek
green.
Whenever
a
life
is
lost,
he's
my
friend
first
and
I
don't
want
to
jeopardize
our
friendship
over
a
lack
thereof.
M
So
in
closing
I'll
leave
with
a
quote
from
my
mentor,
dr
cornel
west-
and
it
reads:
you
cannot
lead
the
people.
If
you
don't
love
the
people,
you
cannot
save
the
people
if
you
don't
serve
the
people
again.
Thank
you,
councilman
greene,
for
this
invitation
to
testify
members
of
city
council,
your
commitment
and
dedication
to
service
appreciated
and
the
listener
audience
for
your
attention.
Everyone
have
a
great
day
on
purpose,
and
I
thank
you
for
so
much
for
this
opportunity.
A
Thank
you,
mr
williams,
for
your
testimony.
I
believe
our
next
witness
is
miss
movida
johnson
harrell
involved
by
that
would.
A
H
I
You
councilman
green.
Thank
you
appreciate
y'all
having
me
here
today.
I
just
went
through
a
major
surgery
for
some
implants
on
my
teeth,
so
I'm
not
necessarily
camera
worthy
right
now.
I
So,
yes,
going
through
a
lot
of
pain,
but
been
going
through
a
lot
of
pain,
witnessing
our
young
men
and
women
being
murdered
on
our
streets
every
day,
and
I
start
out
like
that,
because
it's
been
very
pain
taken
for
us
to
take
the
time
that
we
have
to
do
when
I
say
us,
I
talk
about
my
co-founders
and
our
organization
called
put
it
down,
put
it
down
as
an
organization,
that's
been
founded
by
me
and
my
partner,
dao
shula
and
salaam
moxen
and
we've
been
meeting
with
various
different
practitioners.
I
Various
different
law
enforcement
agencies,
elected
officials,
people
from
within
the
community
and
doing
some
interviewing
with
some
potential
credible
messengers
within
that
process,
as
I
say,
has
been
pain
taken
because,
as
we,
you
know,
have
the
intentions
to
try
to
make
sure
that
we
do
all
of
the
proper
research
and
talk
with
all
of
the
various
professionals
that
may
have
been
in
this
business
prior
to
us.
I
It's
still
a
pain-taking
process
because
we
still
have
to
see
our
young
men
and
women
being
murdered
on
the
streets
every
day,
as
someone
mentioned,
we
are
already
now
at
200
and
something
murders,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
wanted
to
point
out
is
that
we
are
in
a
very
critical
time
in
history
right
now,
and
I
believe,
even
as
african-american
leaders
are
our
communities,
we
are
in
a
very
pivotal
moment
of
greatness.
Actually,
you
know
we
have
an
opportunity
to
really
get
a
lot
of
things
done
and
get
things
done
right.
I
I
You
know
that
was
once
part
of
the
problem
who
now
trying
to
be
a
part
of
the
solution
to
be
more
vocal
and
more
involved
with
issues
of
gun
violence.
When
we
categorize
and
speak
of
the
terminology,
that's
been
popularized
now
as
credible
messengers.
I
You
know
one
of
the
things
that
we
need
in
order
to
remain
credible
is
the
resources
from
various
city,
state
and
government
agencies
in
order
to
be
to
really
really
provide
the
the
resources
for
these
kids,
as
we
make
the
the
contact
and
when
I
say
the
contact
we're
talking
about
going
directly
to
the
shooters
and
the
killers,
we
have
guys
that
we
personally
know
that's
bona
fide
shooters.
I
We
have
people
that
we
have
communicated
through
law
enforcement
because
we
have
built
a
one-way
data
sharing
relationship
with
law
enforcement,
whereas
they,
let
us
know
certain
neighborhoods,
where
there
may
be
certain
hot
spots
and
different
things
that
understand,
and
we
have
went
into
these
neighborhoods
and
shown
shown
that
we
could
basically
reduce
the
gun
violence
if
we
do
the
intervention
with
the
actual
shooters
and
killers.
I
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
wanted
to
to
be
clear,
as
we
all
begin
to
try
to
figure
out
what
is
the
approach
towards
reducing
gun
violence
in
our
community?
One
of
the
things
that
my
mom
used
to
always
teach
me.
That
is
always
a
cause
and
an
effect
to
everything-
and
I
hear
erica
artwors
speak
so
elegantly
about
the
systemic
racism
aspect
to
it,
which
is
very,
very
pivotal
and
very
very
key
and
is
is,
is
almost
being
cliches,
but
it's
so
real
that
we
have
to
really
pay
attention
to
it.
I
From
the
standpoint
that
this
that
we
have
to
begin
to
figure
out
from
a
scientific
standpoint,
what
is
causing
these
young
men
to
be
as
aggressive
as
they
are
in
our
communities,
and
I
had
a
conversation
other
day
with
councilman
kenyatta.
We
were
just
throwing
some
thoughts
back
and
forth
just
in
regards
like
what
is
the
issue-
and
I
pointed
out
to
him
one
of
our
friends
actually
me
and
kenyatta
grew
up
with
a
friend
of
ours
he's
now
deceased.
I
He
was
killed
in
gun
violence,
but
a
friend
of
his
that
he
used
to
date.
Her
son
just
been
indicted
for
probably
like
six
homicides
he's
16
years
old
he's
the
kid
that
was
involved
with
the
homicide
with
the
guy
was
coming
outside
of
the
prison.
I
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
were
talking
about,
okay
before
they
demonize
this
guy,
we
need
to
look
at
what
is
the
backstory
behind
some
of
this
youth
and
what's
causing
them
to
do
the
things
that
they're
doing
and
when
we
know,
because
we
know
these
families,
we
know
them.
Personally,
this
kid's
family
has
been,
and
and
this
kid's
witness,
his
mother
killed
her
boyfriend
because
he
was
molesting
his
sister
allegedly
and
come
to
find
out.
The
sister
was
lying.
He
was
never
molesting
him,
but
the
mother
went
to
prison
for
it.
I
So
it's
just
things
that
we
just
want
to
kind
of
figure
start
tying
in
and
making
the
connections
from
academia
and
from
science
and
from
streets
to
street
guys
that's
on
the
streets
when
we
say
street
credibility,
we're
talking
about
guys
who
have
a
direct
contact
and
pulse
be
of
the
individuals,
the
communities,
their
families
and
some
of
the
history
of
their
family.
These
are
the
connections
that
have
to
be
made
and
I
believe
we're
on
our
way
to
on
the
verge
of
making
these
connections.
I
Because
now
I'm
communicating
with
michael
rashid
in
regards
to
how
can
commerce
be
involved
and
to
answer
that
green's
question
earlier
like?
How
can
these
organizations
be
more
engaged
and
how
could
commerce
play
a
role
in
that?
Well,
commons
do
have
a
lot
of
access
to
various
different
organizations
that
could
provide
jobs.
We
need
to
get
commitments
because
they
are,
as
michael
rashid
said,
there
is
a
lot
of
young
men
that
really
want
jobs.
There's
a
lot
of
young
women
that
want
jobs.
I
You
know,
but
there
is
some
phobias.
There
is
some
fear,
as
it
leads
to
some
of
the
guys
being
afraid
not
just
be
because
they
they're
getting
a
stimulus
check.
Some
of
these
guys
don't
want
to
work
on
the
workshop,
because
they're
afraid
of
getting
killed
so
at
the
end
of
the
day,
is
a
lot
of
psychological
trauma.
I
That's
dealing,
that's
impacting
our
youth,
that's
causing
them
to
be
over
sensitive
about
very
different
issues
and
things.
So
my
question
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
we
have
to
tie
into
because
I
made
contact
with
a
guy
that
I
know
that's
a
bona
fide
shooter
and
this
guy.
If
we
can
turn
this
guy
around,
he
could
probably
help
us
reduce
gun
violence
by
50
in
south
philadelphia.
I
So
how
do
we
get
this
guy?
But
he
got
some
issues.
He
told
me,
as
I
was
explaining
to
this
kid,
explaining
to
him
about
the
programs,
because
one
of
the
things
proto
down
going
to
do
is
we're
going
to
focus
highly
on
mental
health
treatment.
We
have
a
situation
where
all
of
us,
as
staff
members
has
been
trained
by
the
network
of
neighbors.
I
That
teaches
us
about
post-stress
traumatic
management
and
it
teaches
us
how
to
first
deal
with
it
and
have
coping
mechanisms
to
help
us
through
stress
and
trauma,
because
most
of
us
been
through
stress
and
trauma
and
as
african-american
men.
I
think
it's
important
that
we
begin
to
start
speaking
about
mental
health
issues,
because
it's
in
our
communities,
it's
like
a
taboo
issue
and
we
can't
get
to
the
core
of
the
issues.
I
We
got
a
thing
called
from
trauma
to
champions
where
we're
going
to
use
music
as
a
means
and
lyrics
from
music
as
a
means
to
engage
with
youth
to
help
them
navigate
through
some
of
the
vicious
music
that
they
listening
to
and
how
that
music
impact
they
thinking
but
using
music
as
a
tool
for
healing.
So
it's
a
few
different
things
that
we
have
and
and
and
some
guys
like
you
say,
may
not
want
to
work
for
various
different
reasons,
but
to
have
a
combination.
I
One
of
the
things
that
put
it
down
is
doing
is
we're
setting
up
training
programs
for
job
training
for
soft
skills
and
hard
skills.
We
already
have
curriculums
for
carpentry
plumbing
electric
and
hvac
and
have
a
partnership
that
we're
establishing
with
the
philadelphia
carpenters
union,
where
they're
gonna
allow
us
to
be
able
to
use
their
training
facility
to
help
some
of
these
guys,
as
related
to
wanting
to
get
into
the
the
carpentry
in
the
building
industry.
I
So
we
have
to
have
a
plethora
of
different
resources
available
for
these
guys
because
me
and
don
schuler.
We
are
confident
that
when
we
go
on
the
streets
and
we
begin
to
start
doing
real
intervention
with
the
actual
shooters
and
killers,
when
we
bring
them
off
the
battlefield,
we
need
all
of
y'all.
We
need
all
of
local
and
state
agencies
to
be
in
that
emergency
room
to
provide
the
resources
for
them.
I
I
We're
saying
it
from
that
standpoint
that
if
we
don't
get
all
of
our
communications
and
all
of
our
resources
on
the
same
page
and
ready
and
available
with
transparency
to
be
to
help
these
kids
get
their
birth
certificates
driver's
license
social
security
cards
and
just
the
basic
stuff
that
they
need
to
get
prepared
for
the
recovery
room.
Because
our
recovery
room
is
where
the
training
programs
and
and
and
the
soft
skill
programs
and
entrepreneurship
programs
and
job
training
programs
would
be.
I
But
if
we
can't
even
get
them
because
and
the
reason
why
we
know
that
these
this
this
type
of
conveyor
belt
type
of
system
have
to
be
in
place
because
we're
not
just
going
off
of
proof
of
concepts
which
we
have
did
that
because,
as
I
started
out
in
the
beginning,
I
explained
to
you
that
we
have
talked
to
countless
different
practitioners,
local
and
nationals,
to
be
able
to
figure
out.
What
do
we
do
and
what
not
to
do.
So.
I
We
can
make
sure
that
we
try
to
get
this
situation
right
here
in
philadelphia.
But
we're
not
just
going
off
of
this
based
off
of
proof
of
concepts.
We're
going
off
of
proof
of
experience,
because
I
have
guys
right
now,
that's
in
the
graveyard,
because
we
did
intervention
and
we
was
able
to
and
if
we
were
able
to
to
be
as
transparent
as
I'm
speaking
about.
I
We
could
have
saved
this
kid
life
and
how
do
I
know
he
had
potential
because
he
was
going
to
school
college
coming
home
and
going
to
war
going
to
college
and
coming
home
and
going
to
war.
It
shows
us
that
he
was
trying,
but
if
we
don't
have
these
emergency
this,
just
this
transparency
that
I'm
talking
about.
I
So
when
we
say
public
health
emergency,
we
mean
that
we
have
to
be
serious
about
this
issue
here
and
all
of
them.
We
have
to
tie
in
all
these
various
different
organizations
and
resources
and
try
to
figure
out
how
do
we
make
sure
that
we
get
this
ball?
How
do
we
turn
a
bonafide
shooter?
Because
he
may
have
a
couple
cases,
because
we
have,
in
our
program
a
case
deferment
program
that
we
talked
to
the
d.a
office
about.
I
I
We
understand
the
condition
of
our
people
and
we
have
to
understand
that
it's
a
transition
and
every
and
everybody
makes
mistakes,
so
we
have
to
stop
being
afraid
to
invest
into
organizations
like
put
it
down.
Organizations
like
unity
in
the
community
organizations
like
nomo
and-
and
I
mentioned
other
organizations,
because
we
understand
that
we
don't
have
the
end-all
be-all
on
what
it
takes
to
stop
or
reduce
gun
violence.
We're
willing
to
work
with
all
various
different
organizations
I
see
erica
artwood
is
on
the
call.
I
I've
we've
been
in
countless
conversations
with
her
as
relate
to
what
could
we
do
to
partner
with
them
to
figure
out?
What
do
we
need
to
do
to
help
deal
with
this
gun,
violence
and
add
credibility
and
and
notoriety
to
an
elevation
on
what
everyone
is
doing,
because
I
think
we
need
to
start
working
closer
together
and
figure
out
how
we
can
elevate
each
other,
and
I
believe
that
put
it
down.
I
Is
it
has
the
kind
of
leadership
that's
necessary,
and
I
believe
that
if
y'all
will
focus
on
the
programs
that
we
already
put
in
front
of
most
of
y'all
allen,
dime
I'll,
send
it
to
you,
kenyatta
johnson.
I
send
it
to
you
derek
green.
I
haven't
sent
it
to
you,
but
I
will
send
it
to
you
after
this
call
and
and
whomever
else
that
may
need
to
see
our
funding
proposal,
we
have
a
complete
funding
proposal
that
I
believe
is
second
to
only
the
city
of
philadelphia.
I
You
understand
the
reason
why
I
say
that,
because
we
have
worked
so
closely
with
them
and
I
see
a
lot
of
our
bullet
points
in
their
proposal.
So
at
the
end
of
the
day,
the
only
person
that
I
see
that's
second
to
to
our
proposal
is
the
city
of
philadelphia
and
for
everyone's
comfort
zone.
We
are
already
partnering
with
the
urban
affairs
coalition.
I
The
urban
affairs
coalition
will
be
our
fiscal
sponsor.
So
even
though
put
it
down
is
coming
out
as
a
new
organization
me
and
dale
schuler
have
25
30
years
of
experience
in
this
business.
It's
just
a
new
organization
that
we're
starting,
but
we
won't
look
like
what's
new
because
we'll
be
using
the
501c3
number
of
the
the
uac.
I
I
But
what
do
we
need
to
do
to
make
these
things
become
reality,
I'm
sitting
here
and
I'm
I'm
I'm
eager
to
get
involved
and
try
to
figure
out
exactly
what
it
is
that
we
need
to
do
so
we
can
get
into
implementation
of
what
we
need
to
do,
and
I
wanted
to
also
say
this
in
closing
that
I
believe
the
commerce
department
is
a
great
safe
way
of
funneling
funding
for
these
particular
type
programs
to
get
them
more
involved,
so
they
can
actually
really
facilitate
meetings
and
and
and
relationships
between
the
corporate
companies
as
well
as
organizations.
I
A
You
thank
you,
mr
bay.
If
are
there
any
questions
for
this
panel.
A
I
don't
see
any
member
questions
from
other
members
of
the
council,
but
I
do
have
a
few
questions
just
for
on
this
panel,
specifically
from,
and
I
think
you,
mr
bailly,
you
mentioned
this-
about
the
need
for
the
program,
the
information
getting
to
grasses
community-based
organizations.
A
A
Can
you
give
your
thoughts
on
either
of
you
of
your
thoughts
on
doing
a
better
job
of
how
we
get
the
information
regarding
we
talk
about
life
sciences
and
other
industries
to
get
that
information
available
to
those
organizations
that
are
really
connecting
with
young
people
trying
to
either
talk
with
shooters
or
trouble
with
other
people
to
get
them
cogs
and
aware
of
these
opportunities
to
be
able
to
take
a
different
path.
M
I'm
sure
one
one
is
just
allowing
us
on
a
larger
scale,
not
just
in
the
west
philadelphia
community
but
partnering
with
organizations
like
put
it
down
and
the
others
to
reach
different
areas
of
the
city.
M
He
mentioned
some
key
initiatives
and
one
like
shape
up
could
be
a
pipeline
because,
after
you
complete
the
three-month
program,
we
still
look
to
fund
the
individual
because
we
have
to
have
a
next
steps
for
them,
and
organizations
like
to
put
it
down
or
some
other
man
up,
phl
front
line,
dance
and
the
other
that's
been
mentioned.
I'm
doing
this
conversation
we
can.
M
We
can
send
them
right
through
that
program
to
and
and
have
other
organizations
as
to
be
what's
next
for
them
to
give
them
not
just
they
get
lost
in
a
system
or
after
the
three
month
or
whatever
duration
of
any
program
that's
been
mentioned
today.
What
happens
next?
Because
you
know
young
people,
they
want
the
end
result
at
the
beginning.
M
So
just
so,
you
can
see
them
through
and
hold
their
hand
and
see
them
through
what
they're
experiencing
now,
but,
most
importantly,
what's
the
next?
What's
the
next
step
for
them,
because
we
got
to
keep
them
off
the
streets
and
we
got
to
keep
them
active
and
what's
going
on
so
just
partner
with
different
organizations
that
they
can
see,
the
next
step
is
doable
from
a
black
and
brown
community
perspective.
So
I
think
that's
really
key
in
getting
the
message.
A
And
just
a
follow-up
on
that
point.
Thank
you,
mr
williams.
Mr
carter,
I
think
one
of
the
other
things
that
I
was
talking
earlier
to
the
first
panel
about
you
know
what
is
the
commerce
department
and
that
would
work
to
try
to
really
make
that
connection,
but
I
think
from
a
chamber
of
commerce
perspective,
considering
we
do
have
these
gracious
community-based
organizations
that
are
doing
in
the
working
communities
regarding
anti-violence
activity.
A
I
think
it
would
be
a
great
opportunity
to
connect
some
of
the
business
interests
with
those
organizations,
so
there
could
be
at
least
to
hear
some
of
the
challenges
and
perspective
one
for
what
you
know:
davout
bay
or
eric
williams
block
volume
and
what
they're
doing
in
the
communities
to
address
violence
and
challenges,
but
then
for
them
also
to
hear
from
you
know,
representatives
in
different
businesses
to
say:
listen,
we
have
these
type
of
jobs.
A
If
I
know
what
some
of
the
businesses
are
looking
for
for
employment,
it
makes
it
easier
for
me
to
when
I
come
in
kind
of
certain
young
individuals
to
be
able
to
say,
hey,
here's
an
opportunity
and
then
vice
versa
for
the
business
community,
especially
the
ones
who
are
active
in
the
engagement
chamber,
to
hear
some
of
the
challenges
that
those
in
the
anti-violence
movement
are
encountering
to
hear.
Both
sides
that
perspective.
L
Yeah
I
100
agree
with
you
councilman
and
I'm
very
familiar
with
mr
cayenne,
and
I
look
forward
to
having
those
type
of
conversations,
because
you
can't
to
really
tell
people
not
to
do
something
without
showing
them
hey
something
to
do.
You
know,
that's
just
only
one
side
of
the
equation,
so
you
want
to
be
able
to
say
hey.
This
is
a
pathway,
a
better
pathway
for
you
to
go.
L
That
will
give
you
a
better
quality
of
life
and
those
conversations
need
to
be
had
with
the
stakeholders,
certainly
from
the
private
sector
and
the
nonprofit
sector,
in
this
space.
So
definitely
anytime,
you'd
like
to
broker
that
conversation
with
myself
and
mr
cai
young
and
whoever
else
look
forward
to
that.
A
Thank
you,
mr
carter.
Are
there
any
additional
questions
for
this
panel.
A
Hearing
and
seeing
none
mri
news
if
you
could
read
the
names
of
the
last
panel.
In
addition,
if
there's
anyone
else
that
is
here
that
would
like
to
testify
after
the
last
panelist
speaks,
please
state
your
name
for
the
record
and
I'll
come
back
to
this
point
after
the
last
panelist
speaks.
J
J
F
Okay,
pastor
crawl
day
of
culture,
changing
christians
and
I'm
here
to
obviously
discuss
a
bit
of
what
we
do,
but
also
the
issues
of
gun,
violence
and
testify
on
behalf
of
the
issues
of
violence
in
the
city.
Answer
a
lot
of
what
we
heard.
A
A
Okay,
I
think
we
are
now
good.
Okay,
all
right
so
welcome!
Mr
dave,
you
could
just
just
put
a
stenographer
make
sure
you
state
your
name
and
then
proceed
with
the
testimony.
F
All
right,
pastor,
carl
day,
c-a-r-l
last
name
day
day
the
week
diy
of
culture,
changing
christians
been
pastoring
and
doing
actual
outreach
work
in
this
city
for
over
ten
plus
years.
Now
I
too
have
been
a
part
of
the
problem
once
upon
a
time
I've
been
convicted
of
violent
crimes
in
the
city.
In
the
previous
life
of
mine,
I've
dedicated
my
life
in
the
city
of
philadelphia
to
really
serving
families
serving
guys
that
are
out
there
on
the
streets.
F
We've
trans,
we
we've
gotten
brothers
to
transition
over
18
men
in
the
last
three
years
to
transition
out
of
the
streets
into
starting
their
own
business,
including
car
lots,
including
home
health
care
aid,
businesses
into
cleaning
companies,
amongst
other
things,
to
shoot
string
with
little
to
no
money,
shoestring
budgets.
I
passed
the
millennials
in
the
city
of
philadelphia,
also
in
essex,
county,
north
jersey,
so
pre-covet
I
would
travel
back
and
forth
and
preach
service
and
teach
bible.
Study
and
majority
of
my
congregants
were
from
bloomfield
new
jersey
and
newark
new
jersey.
F
Newark
is
very
much
like
a
you
know,
smaller
philadelphia,
so
we've
done
extensive
work
with
returning
citizens.
We
do
a
ton
of
work
with
college
students.
You
know
college
age,
individuals,
teenagers,
I
currently
mentor
over
52
teens
in
this
city.
Teenage
boys
have
taken
on
various
ones
with
open
cases,
ones
who
actually
we've
gotten.
You
know
judges
to
sign
off,
to
allow
them
to
go
and
partake
our
our
programming
while
being
on
house
arrest.
F
This
is
all
been
done
within
the
past
few
years,
every
single
day
after
school,
we
provided
a
safe
zone
because
we
understood
that
after
school
hours
were
the
most
dangerous
invulnerable
times
for
teenage
youth
in
our
city,
which
is
why
oftentimes,
we
would
see
the
l
stations.
We
would
see
the
subway
stations
where
a
lot
of
violence
would
take
place.
F
We
would
see
downtown
and
we
would
see
liberty
place
where
they
would
go
meet
up,
which
is
why
the
city
had
to
put
certain
things
in
practice
to
not
allow
teens
in
at
liberty
place
at
after
school
hours,
then
also
fashion
district
prior
to
covet
kids
were
meeting
up
and
fighting
there.
These
are
the
things
that
my
youth
would
always
tell
me.
Make
me
aware
of
so
a
few
years
back,
we
started
an
after-school
program
created
a
safe
zone
for
these
teenage
boys
and
there's
no
discrimination
to
women.
F
Obviously,
we
run
single
mother
cohorts
where
we've
run
programming
to
help
a
system,
help
aid
and
help
fill
in
the
gaps
because
oftentimes
we
talk
about
what
a
village
looks
like
for
a
family,
but
yet
a
lot
of
the
times.
These
mothers
don't
have
to
help
a
mother.
A
lot
of
these
mothers
can't
be
heard.
Mothers
are
sitting
here
working
60
to
70
hours
a
week,
while
their
children
are
left
out
here
to
pretty
much
fend
for
themselves.
F
So
for
us,
it
wasn't
just
enough
for
us
to
say:
let's
reach
youth,
let's
also
reach
the
parents,
but
then
also
darwin
bay
spoke
about
daryl
schuler
do
a
lot
of
work
with
daryl
schule
as
well
inside
our
communities,
alongside
of
john
solomon,
with
endangered
kind,
where
we
are
on
the
grounds
intervening.
We
are
after
hours,
late
night
spending
time
out
there,
amongst
guys
who
are
really
doing
the
shootings.
In
fact,
fridays
reverend
holston
can
attest
to
this
state
rep
danilo
burgos,
dr
eugene
wright.
F
Every
friday,
at
my
location,
here
we
bring
in
those
men
who
are
actively
involved
in
whatever
they're
involved
into
without
incriminating
anybody,
and
we
talk
solutions.
It's
from
anywhere
from
18
to
24
men,
that
you
know
myself
and
john
solomon
bring
through
the
streets
because
we're
spending
time
out
there
intervening
with
them,
and
we
have
conversation
and
dialogue
about
what
our
actual
needs.
You
know-
and
I
say
this
in
all
truth
and
transparency.
F
You
know-
and
I
speak
about
this
from
the
position
of
I
guess
we
could
say
that
we're
triple
dipping
diversity.
You
know
I'm
a
millennial,
black
man,
a
formerly
incarcerated
man
that
walk
around
with
a
felony,
but
also
clergy,
and
I'm
here,
to
attest
to
the
fact
that
we've
also
have
to
deal
with
the
measuring
account
of
accountability.
F
You
know
we,
we
failed
the
generation
in
reaching
a
generation
of
individuals
for
a
long
time,
and
I
say
that
as
a
faith
leader
and
one
who
serves
on
the
mayor's
faith-based
interfaith
commissions,
this
is
an
area
that
we
have
to
deal
with
as
well.
We
lack
relationship
with
a
lot
of
these
people,
which
is
why
we're
constantly
in
search
of
trying
to
get
young
people
infused
in
something
when
truth
be
told,
it
should
be
second
nature
for
us
to
be
involved
with
young
people.
F
We
should
already
have
relationships
with
young
people,
so
on
the
account
of
that,
we
do
need
support
from
council.
We
do
need
support
from
the
city
at
large
to
continually
fund
these
things
and,
as
reverend
holston
said
earlier,
we
need
to
do
something
different
now
we're
talking
about
the
issues
of
racism.
A
lot
of
ways
in
which
we
see
funding
and
a
lot
of
ways
in
which
we
deal
and
disperse
funds
is
through
a
systemic.
You
know,
honestly,
a
systemic
white
business
outline.
F
We
are
asking
these
organizations
and
constantly
coming
to
these
organizations
and
we
utilize
a
word
such
as
capacity
to
almost
you
know,
deter
people
who
are
really
grassroots,
who
are
doing
this
work,
so
we
kind
of
politicize
the
idea
of
what
grassroots
organizations
look
like,
but
guess
what
doing
something
new
doing?
Something
different
is
bringing
different
people
in
these
rooms.
Having
these
conversations
doing
something
different
is
making
that
transition
and
that
shift
to
power
doing
something
different
is
truly
investigating.
F
When
we
talk
about
people
and
talking
about
who's
credible
who
has
reached,
who
has
this
doing
something
different
is
truly
investigating
how
many
people
do
these
people
actually
reach,
and
I'm
not
talking
about
city
council,
I
and
I'm
sure
some
of
y'all
have
caught
on,
but
I'm
not
talking
about
like
come
around
to
the
the
one
shot.
Big
event
that
looks
good.
F
When
we
have
you
know:
200
people
from
the
community
we're
giving
free
stuff
away,
but
I'm
talking
about
on
the
continual
day-to-day
operations,
so
we're
not
sitting
here,
gerrymandering
or
so
or
or
or
fabricating
our
clipboard
numbers,
but
showing
actual
action,
action
of
actionable
items
and
showing
tangible
work.
That
is
something
that
we
have
to
do.
F
That's
doing
something
different,
drastically
aggressively
funding
new
faces
and
new
voices
who
really
not
only
are
credible
but
have
influence
and
have
the
acumen
to
really
build
up
and
train
our
young
brothers
and
sisters
out
here
to
actually
do
something
different.
You
know,
and
I
think
that
those
things
we
have
to
do
at
some
point
because
for
the
for
a
long
time
it's
been
the
same
old
game,
same
old
names
and
then
what
we
see
behind
the
scenes
or
the
back
door
scenes.
F
It's
just
like
the
single
mom
who's
overworking
over
burden.
If
she's
out
there
working
60
70
hours
a
week,
we
can't
keep
putting
the
onus
on
her
to
basically
tell
her
pull
up
her
bootstraps
and
raise
her
child,
while
she's
still
trying
to
provide
for
her
three
four
children.
You
can't
keep
doing
that
to
grassroot
organizations
or
grassroots
leaders
and
say
you
lack
capacity,
but
you
like
funding,
because
people
need
funding
to
go
ahead
and
work,
those
jobs
that
a
grassroots
leader
is
sitting
here,
doing
wearing
seven
different
hats.
F
That's
a
lot
to
ask
for,
while
they're
still
doing
the
work
and
then
ultimately,
they
suffer
from
burnout.
And
then
we
find
ourselves
in
the
meat
of
these
same
issues
saying
why
aren't
things
changing
well,
quite
frankly,
those
who
are
living
like
fat
cows
from
ivory
towers
are
staying
where
they
are
and
they're
not
being
challenged
to
have
to
do
more.
F
F
We
have
to
present
it
to
them
a
different
way.
We
have
to
make
sure
that
they
truly
desire
what
it
is
that
we're
setting
for
them
as
opposed
to
us
setting
parameters
in
an
outline
and
telling
them
here.
You
fill
this
box
and
I'm
just
saying
it
because
guess
what
with
funding
without
funding,
I'm
gonna
do
what
I
continue
to
do
for
the
last
10
years,
because
I'm
called
to
it
and
that's
where
I
stand.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank
you,
councilman,
derek
for
having
me
and
everyone
else.
A
Thank
you
for
your
testimony.
Mr
little.
A
If
you're
available,
please
state
your
name
for
the
record,
while
we're
waiting
on
mr
little
past
today,
I'd
like
to
just
ask
you
a
quick
question.
I
believe
we're
coming
to
the
end
of
this
hearing.
We'll
have
ongoing
hearings
on
this
topic.
You
talked
about
entrepreneurship
and
how
you're
able
to
take
you
know
young
people
from
various
different
perspectives
and
get
them
put
them
on
have
entrepreneurship.
He
said
home
health.
A
He
said
barb,
you
said
a
whole
host
of
different
industries
and
if
you
provide
just
a
little
more
detail
on
how
you
were
able
to
do
that,
because
that's
really
the
crux
of
what
we're
talking
about
today,
how
do
we
take
young
people
just
people
in
general
who
were
trying
to
steer
them
from
one
direction
and
fit
them
into
a
different
direction
regarding
entrepreneurship
and
that
we
can
grow
more
and
more
entrepreneurs
grow
more
and
more
businesses?
To
me,
that's
a
way.
A
That's
another
anti-violence
strategy,
but
also
it
is
an
economic
development
and
empowerment
strategy
for
the
city
of
philadelphia.
But
if
you
think
we
have
more
businesses
on
a
washington
lane,
washington
avenue
in
king
sessing
or
winfield
or
brewery
town,
or
you
name
the
community,
any
any
of
those
commercial
carters.
A
That's
gonna
provide
more
resources
in
that
community,
more
dollars
that
can
circulate
in
that
community,
and
it
goes
back
to
the
conversation
that
we
started
with
in
reference
to
tulsa
and
greenwood
you
having
more
and
more
merchants
who
are
in
those
indies
and
entrepreneurs
and
others
to
circulate
more
resources
and
also
expose
other
young
people
to
follow
the
path
of
the
same
people.
You
talked
about
that
you
mentioned
into
entrepreneurship,.
F
Great
question
councilman,
so
one
thing
that
I
think
councilwoman,
jim
and
erica
atwood
made
those
statements
about
like
that
that
that
that
bridge
you
know
that
that
person
who
needs
to
go
out
and
somewhat
be
a
recruiter
because
there
is
there
is.
There-
is
a
nuance
in
between
that.
Where
there's
not
just
this
handoff,
okay,
you're
ready
for
job
now
go
get
a
job.
You're
ready
for
entrepreneurship,
now
just
go
start
a
business
one
of
the
things
that
I've
done.
F
We've
taken
and
pro
and
created
programs
in
place
where
we've
met
with
men,
and
we
ran
a
program
from
real
to
righteousness,
because
oftentimes
our
men
would
talk
about
keeping
things
real
and
we're
like
nah.
Nothing
is
real.
Righteousness
is
real
like
let
us
move
righteously.
Keeping
it
real
is
a
facade.
Just
like
the
streets
is
just
like.
The
street
code
just
ended
up
being
a
myth,
because
it's
no
longer
operable
at
all.
F
With
that,
we
we
would
teach
men
pretty
much
life
skills
to
transition
into
entrepreneurship,
because
there
are
different
work,
ethics
and
patterns,
you
need,
as
a
man
and
a
woman
to
excel
in
entrepreneurship.
One
thing
that
I
usually
or
typically
would
teach
our
men
is
even
why
you
got
the
job,
learn
to
make
the
job
work
for
you,
if
you're
coming
in,
to
work
with
a
goal.
F
Instead
of
being
disgruntled,
you
understand
that
you're
here
for
a
certain
amount
of
hours
and
you're
utilizing
the
funds
that
you're
making
to
incorporate
it
into
your
businesses
that
you
want
to
eventually
ultimately
build.
Then
you
also
have
to
be
willing
and
make
that
constant
decision
to
say
that
I'm
going
to
work
outside
of
work.
So
I
taught
our
brothers
how
to
work
outside
of
work.
You
still
can't
stay
out
there,
eight
hours
and
let
me
go
home
and
lay
down
you're,
not
ready
to
run
a
business
in
the
midst
of
that
you
need
capital.
F
But
you
also
know
you
can't
continue
to
get
the
capital
or
try
to
utilize
the
capital
from
the
streets,
because
the
streets
isn't
a
consistent
stream
of
capital
capital
because
those
things
can
change
at
any
given
moment.
So
what
you
need
to
do
is
utilize
the
job
to
now
invest
in
your
business,
but
also
be
a
student
of
the
game,
because
just
because
you
have
a
gift,
don't
mean
you're
good
at
actually
running
a
business,
there's
a
marketing
aspect
of
business.
So
we
have
book
selection
readings.
We
would
go
through
these
books.
F
We
would
spend
time
with
these
brothers.
We
would
go
ahead
and
make
sure
that
those
brothers
were
setting
budgets
and
allocating
money
that
they
would
go
ahead
and
save
rather
than
spend
their
money
foolishly
or
frivolously.
They
would
go
ahead
and
put
it
up
into
their
business.
We've
also
ran
shark
tanks
for
our
youth
as
well.
What
I
did
was
we
did
a
shark
tank
right
before
the
covet.
We
took
20
proposals
and
they
had
to
set
business
proposals.
F
We
had
a
panel
and
I
had
a
panel
of
a
few
other
investors
and
a
couple
other
community
organizers,
and
we
sat
there
and
we
actually
allowed
the
youth.
We
allowed
my
teams
to
present
proposals.
The
top
five
proposals
got
fifteen
hundred
dollars
to
start
their
business.
All
of
this
was
grassroots
funded.
By
the
way
we
raised
this
money,
you
know
so
we
went
ahead
and
gave
the
top
five
business
proposals.
Fifteen
hundred
dollars
to
start
their
business.
F
A
couple
of
the
kids
one
of
the
kids
started
his
own
car,
wash
where
he
bought
his
own
power.
Washer
bought
his
own
supplies,
everything
else,
a
couple,
other
kids
started
their
own
clothing
line
and
another
kid
started
his
own
youtube
streaming
channel
in
which
he
did
in
correlation
to
his
gaming.
So
he
took
his
money
and
actually
built
his
gaming
computer
up
so
that
he
can
go
ahead
and
get
on
twitch
and
run
his
gaming
account.
This
is
what
this
kid
did.
F
So
all
of
those
ways
in
which
we've
made
entrepreneurship
a
reality,
because
there
still
had
to
be
a
process
into
where
in
which
they
had
to
unlearn.
You
know
other
unhealthy
practices
that
would
pretty
much
make
you
a
failed
entrepreneur.
If
you
jumped
out
there
and
did
business.
Also,
your
customer
service,
your
people
skills
can't
stink.
So
this
is
things
that
you
know
we
have
to
show
brothers
and
show
you
can't
talk
to
them
like
how
you
might
talk
to
an
addict
that
you're
giving
drugs
to
you
know.
F
You've
got
to
be
able
to
deal
with
people
and
understand
that
there's
an
essence
in
the
nature
that
you
got
to
carry
and
conduct
yourself
with.
So
in
those
things
like
I
said,
man
we've,
we
helped
you
start
businesses,
but
we
also
help
brothers
start
a
mobile
detailing
business.
You
know
broke
down
the
nuances
of
that.
You
know
buying
the
van
getting
it
out
buying
a
gallon.
You
know
30
gallon
water
tank
and
doing
what
he
had
to
do.
Setting
up
his
clientele
utilizing.
F
You
know
other
internet
services
to
where
people
can
you
know
how
to
run
his
ads
online.
A
Thank
you
for
that
testimony
I
want
to
tee
up.
Mr
will
little
who's,
the
last
person
speaking
this
panel
but
past
today.
What
you
talked
about,
I
think,
really
captured
a
lot
of
the
conversation
we
are
having
today.
You
know
earlier.
A
Miss
abbott
talked
about
hustle
skills,
and
then
you
kind
of
talked
about
that
exact
same
thing
and
how
that
young,
man
and
others
took
those
hustle
skills
and
trans
form
that
into
an
entrepreneurial
activity.
That's
why
you
know
the
last
time
I
was
talking
with
mr
carter
from
the
chamber
of
commerce
that
both
sides
need
to
hear
that.
So,
if
you
have
a
representative-
and
I
know
the
basketball
comcast
that
is
here
and
hearing
some
of
the
things
you're
talking
about-
that's
that
type
of
interconnection-
that
people
need
to
know
about,
that.
A
You
have
a
person
like
yourself,
who've
been
able
to
help,
have
a
shark
tank
type
of
activity
and
a
young
person
took
that
used
it
to
create
their
own
channel
through
twitch.
Those
are
the
same
type
of
skills
that
someone
at
a
comcast
is
trying
to
do
more
developing
more
in
a
creative
space
and
trying
to
have
more
people
that
are
influenced
in
that
space
needs
to
hear
and
there's
a
whole
host
of
other
opportunities
and
applications
to
that.
A
I'm
going
to
thank
you
pastor
today
for
your
testimony
I'll
also
like
to
open
it
up
for
any
other
people
who
are
on
a
call
from
the
public
would
like
to
testify
regarding
this
resolution.
I
If
I
could
right
quick,
derek
just
to
double
down
on
something
that
pastor
dave
was
saying,
oh.
I
Yes,
ma'am,
yes,
sir,
my
name
is
dawube.
I
put
it
down.
I
just
wanted
to
double
down
on
something
that
pastor
dave
was
saying
in
regards
to
the
lies
that
the
streets
tell
our
youth,
because,
culturally,
we
have
to
get
them
to
see
how
this
stuff
is
sexy
and
it's
cool
and
it's
okay
to
be
a
part
of
what
we're
talking
about.
I
You
know,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we're
going
to
do
is
is
called
demystifying
the
colds
of
the
streets,
because
the
streets
is
a
myth
on
which
is
cool
and
which
all
right-
and
it
ain't
never
been
cool.
So
it's
like
it's
important
that
guys,
like
us,
begin
to
start
having.
Those
type
of
conversations
I
wish
will
was
here
because
he
also
is
a
is
a
pivotal
part
in
helping
them
change
their
mindset
with
emotional
intelligence,
because
that's
something
that
will
little
teaches
down
there
with
us
in
south
philly.
I
So
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
like
give
him
a
shout
out
with
that
and
let
y'all
know
that
we're
all
working
together
collectively
from
the
mental
aspect
as
well
to
try
to
figure
out
how
we
can
change
the
cultural
thinking
of
our
youth.
You
know
so
one
of
the
things
that,
like
we,
we
think
about,
is
how
do
we
make
that
transition
cool?
So
we
got
a
thing
that
we
call
buy
back
the
block
where
we
would
begin
to
use
real
estate
as
a
means
to
reduce
gun
violence.
I
You
know
because
if,
if
a
lot
of
guys
that
come
from
the
streets,
as
you
know,
past
the
day,
they're
good
with
being
and
getting
involved
with
real
estate
and
construction,
and
things
like
that,
because
it's
still
keeping
a
sense
of
coolness
to
it,
it's
accepted
so
with
the
buy
back
the
box
program,
it's
not
just
that
we're
just
going
to
give
guys
grant
money
to
get
involved
with
real
estate.
They
first
have
to
be
a
part
of
another
program
that
we
have
a
full
curriculum
on.
That's
called
your
up.
I
This
is
where
the
city
could
be
more
involved
with,
with
a
lot
of
these
city-owned
properties
just
sitting
there
not
collecting
any
taxes
and
so
forth
and
so
on,
and
we
have
of
the
mindset
that
if
we
reduce
gun
violence
by
at
least
10
percent,
the
property
value
go
up.
2.3
percent,
but
as
we
get
these
guys
involved
and
get
them
involved
and
something
you
were
saying-
councilman
derek
we,
but
the
key
is
getting
them
involved
with
the
ownership
of
these
communities.
I
I
It's
small,
but
it's
an
incentive
for
him
and
he's
going
to
get
paid
throughout
the
project
for
him
to
sit
there
and
see
every
phase
of
the
project.
So,
as
you
know,
as
developers
we're
going
to
use
this
type
of
curriculum
ourself
with
our
own
projects
that
we're
doing.
But
this
is
a
way
that
we
can
get
the
city
more
involved
and
get
these
guys
involved
with
the
ownership
of
the
community
because
they
feeling
boxed
out
when
we
talk
about
gentrification.
I
When
we
talk
about
redlining,
you
understand
and
and
and
when
you
talk
about
survival
in
general
poverty,
you
know
so
when
there's
poverty
and
there's
a
sense
of
survival,
you
do
anything
to
survive
by
any
means.
Necessarily
here
you
know
they
don't
even
know
that
that
terminology,
how
that
affected
a
lot
of
people.
You
know
back
in
the
day
you
know,
but
at
the
same
time
we
got
to
realize
when
people
in
in
the
move
of
survival,
they
hurt
people.
I
So
we
got
to
get
them
involved
with
the
ownership,
because
they've
been
pushed
out
of
their
communities,
and
I
see
it
in
south
philly
to
the
point
that
they
are
on
my
step
where
my
office
is
at.
They
can't
sit
on
the
other
people's
steps,
that's
owned
by
asians
and
white
folks,
no
more
because
they're
being
boxed
out,
they
don't
even
own
no
property
in
the
community.
They've
been
pushed
out
to
southwest
but
they're
from
south
philly.
I
H
I
In
all
these
various
different
classes
that
we
got
to
get
involved,
we
got
to
get
these
kids
involved
with
ownership
of
our
community,
and
so
now,
when
you
see
the
bia-
and
you
see
all
these
developers
coming
through
with
thousands
and
thousands
of
units
that
they
grade
come
into
our
communities
make
sure
that
we
have
community
packages.
That's
together
that
tells
these
developers
look
man.
I
If
you're
going
to
do
these
developments
in
our
communities,
especially
if
you're
going
to
be
using
city
owned
properties,
then
you
have
to
make
sure
that
you
have
diversity
and
inclusion
diversity
on
on
the
construction
level.
Diversity
on
on
the
ownership
level
is
an
opportunity
for
the
leadership
council
leadership
to
hold
these
developers
accountable
for
y'all
to
create
more
funding
from
the
private
side
to
help
these
type
of
programs,
because
you
got
I'm
a
member
of
the
bia
and
they
coming
through.
I
I
hacking
out
on
the
phone
where
they
coming
through
with
a
thousand
affordable
houses
within
the
next
two
years,
but
how
many
market
rate
units
they
come
with
10
000
so
as
they
come
in
with
these
big
plans
into
our
communities.
I
see
my
brother
will
and
then
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
close
out
now,
but
when
they
see
when
we
see
all
these
developments
coming
into
our
communities
as
council
members,
these
are
the
opportunities
to
create
funding
simple,
easy
they're
going
to
give
it
up
the
rco.
I
Can
a
registered
community
organization
be
sticking
them
up
for
200,
grand
50,
grand
or
whatever
money
that
they
want?
So
as
council,
if
you
use
your
authority,
there's
a
multiple
different
ways
that
we
can
continue
to
get
more
funding
that
we
need
for
more
non-traditional
ways
to
help
reduce
gun
violence
will
littles.
We
missing
you
here,
as
it
relates
to
your
emotional
intelligence.
It's
very
needed.
A
Mr
day
and
miss
little
mr
little
give
me
one
moment
and
I'll
bring
you
on
next,
mr
bay.
Thank
you
for
that,
and
I
think
what
you're
talking
about
is
very
important,
especially
considering
a
number
of
different
organizations,
especially
from
the
african
american
community,
who
are
talking
about
real
estate
development
from
the
collective.
I
know,
there's
an
f
american
developers
group,
that's
affiliated
with
the
bias,
a
number
of
different
organizations,
but
it
brings
me
back
to
something
I've
stated
before
in
this
body.
A
For
those
who've
seen
the
film
concrete
cowboy
one
of
the
main
characters
is
a
young
man
by
the
name
of
smush,
and
if
you
saw
the
movie,
you
know
that
this
young
man
was
part
of
that
cowboy
culture.
But
at
one
point
let
was
veered
to
a
different
path,
but
in
doing
that
he
was
on
different
path
and
engaging
in
an
activity
that
was
illegal
because
he
was
selling
drugs,
but
he
was
doing
it
as
a
way
of
funding
capital.
A
So
he
can
go
into
a
real
estate
business
and
he
had
a
very
clear,
specific
plan
about
buying
real
estate.
He
knew
properties,
so
he
had
the
vision
of
how
he
was
going
to
go
into
a
legitimate,
real
estate,
business
enterprise,
but
the
only
way
he
knew
as
a
way
of
getting
that
capital
was
working
on
a
corner.
So
he
had
a
plan
and
it
wasn't
just
a
made
up
land.
A
Taking
you
know,
young
men,
particularly
and
giving
them
that
path
and
that
exposure
in
order
to
go
into
those
areas
of
business
and
industry
that
can
grow
wealth
and
grow
job
opportunities
and
build
up
our
communities
and
with
that
I'd
like
to
bring
in
mr
will
little
if
you
could
just
state
your
name
for
the
record
for
a
stenographer
and
then
proceed
with
your
testimony.
Being
no
other
witnesses
for
this
hearing
will
conclude
this
hearing
with
mr
little's
testimony
unless
there's
any
other
questions
from
members
of
council.
H
Okay,
thank
you.
Will
my
teeth
little
here.
Sorry
guys,
I'm
late,
I'm
just
chiming
into
it
to
this
conversation,
but.
M
H
I
think,
in
order
for
us
to
create
a
safer
city,
it
has
to
be
a
top-down
bottom-up
approach.
H
What
we
do
in
most
and
most
businesses,
they
have
a
top-down
bottom-up
approach,
whereas
though
they
can
scale
their
businesses
to
a
point
where,
as
though
they're
hiring
the
right
people
to
work
for
their
company
to
get
the
right
results,
they're.
Looking
for
the
same
thing,
the
city
needs
as
well.
The
city
needs
to
hire
people
who
they
know
can
get
the
results
they
are
looking
for
and
because
we're
dealing
with
a
traumatized
community.
H
One
of
the
main
things
that
we're
dealing
with
is
our
people's
emotions
like,
but
I
spoke
to
a
lot
to
all
these
arguments
coming
from
what
raw
emotions
a
lot
of
conflict
coming
from
not
understanding
how
to
conversate
or
communicate
of
those
feelings
too,
as
well
to
whoever
may
be
your
spouse
or
your
neighbor
or
your
co-worker
or
somebody
in
traffic.
H
So
we
know
that
we're.
This
community
has
been
impacted
by
trauma
deeply
because
of
how
many
homicides,
in
the
last
four
or
five
years,
that
affected
at
least
50
members
per
family
and
friends,
and
you
just
times
that
left
by
last
year's
number
499
times
50
just
in
one
year,
don't
close
with
it.
So
you
know
the
trauma.
Impact
is
very,
very
major
and
the
only
way,
even
with
me
being
a
kid
being
affected
by
the
loss
of
a
good
friend
of
mine.
H
H
Your
personal
development
has
everything
to
do
with
that
and
the
more
we
understand
how
we
can
more
personally
develop
heal
ourselves
from
whatever
time
we
experience
look
within
ourselves
to
find
the
resources
right,
the
resources
that
we
have
within
ourselves
in
order
for
us
to
continue
with
growth,
not
just
coming
out
of
a
program
or
not
just
coming
from
an
event
or
or
a
session,
but
how
to
continue
sustainability
when
it
comes
to
personal
growth
right-
and
this
is
things
that
I've
been
teaching
in
this
community
for
the
last
two
years,
but
even
before
way
before
that.
H
But
when
I
got
really
in
contact
with
emotional
intelligence,
I
knew
that
this
was
the
key
in
order
for
us
to
really
be
able
to
create
a
safer
city
for
one
and
to
help
help.
People
feel
good
about
themselves,
I'm
saying
and
continue
to
see
a
vision
of
life
for
themselves
that
they
can
do
better
in
life,
opposed
to
thinking
they're
not
going
to
live
past,
20
or
21
years
old,
or
that
they're
35
and
40.
That
is
over
for
them.
H
At
this
time
and
age
I
mean
so
it's
creating
a
new
insight,
a
new
awareness
and
also
of
how
to
actually
manage
those
raw
emotions.
When
any
time
you
come
in
contact
with
some
kind
of
conflict
conflict,
especially
the
conflict
within
yourself
and
yourself.
Sorry,
because
now
it's
more
so
how
do
we
develop?
H
We
can't
it's
hard
for
us
to
develop
relationships
with
other
people,
because
a
lot
of
us
don't
have
relationships
with
ourselves,
I
mean,
and
when
you
begin
to
develop
a
relationship
with
yourself,
you
understand
how
to
build
relationships
with
other
people,
and
this
is
the
information
that
we're
missing
we're
missing
in
our
schools.
We're
missing
in
our
prison
we're
missing
in
our
erections,
because
these
are
captive
audiences,
where
we
can
put
the
information
there.
H
We
can
put
the
curriculum
in,
whereas,
though
our
people
in
our
community
can
get
the
knowledge
they
need
in
order
to
help
them
scale
their
own
personal
business,
the
business
itself
and
that's
my
testimony
today,
so
we're
trying
to
share
I'm
trying
to
share
this
more
this
information
more
out
there
with
city
council
also,
I
talked
to
marscula,
who
just
attended
my
event
as
well
as
below,
did
and
kenyatta
about
me
doing
another
presentation
to
the
to
the
council,
because
I
did
one
two
years
ago,
which
only
two
councilmembers
showed
up.
A
Thank
well
mr
little.
Thank
you
for
taking
a
few
moments
to
testify.
I'm
definitely
looking
forward
to
that
opportunity
come
to
council,
but
I
think
you
spoke
to
something
that
was
very
important
as
part
of
this
whole
conversation
in
reference
to
not
talking
about
emotional
intelligence,
but
also
a
value
of
self-worth
was
tied
directly
to
entrepreneurship.
A
That
can
also
resonate
to
others,
and
I
think
it's
that
type
of
environment,
that
type
of
perspective.
That's
so
important.
It
comes
out
of
having
the
ability
to
grow
economic
development
and
grow
wealth
and
grow
entrepreneurship,
because
that
is
transferable
knowledge
for
yourself,
but
also
your
family
and
your
community
and
that's
another
aspect
that
is
lost.
A
When
we
talk
about
this
interplay
between
gun
violence
and
public
safety
and
some
of
the
systemic
racism
that
mr
crying
talk
about,
others
talked
about,
as
well
as
the
economic
development
aspect
and
the
entrepreneurship
that
we're
talking
about.
So
I've
been
looking
forward
to
hearing
about
the
opportunity
where
myself,
other
members
of
council
and
others
can
participate
and
learn
from
the
work
that
you're
doing.
I
want
to
thank
all
of
the
people
that
came
out
this
morning
to
testify.
A
This
is
the
first
step
of
this
conversation.
Just
from
today's
conversation,
I
developed
a
wealth
of
ideas
that
we
can
continue
to
engage
throughout
the
summer.
Also,
as
I
stated
at
the
beginning
of
this,
testimony
where
we
we've
reached
out
to
various
parties
from
both
any
casey,
as
well
as
a
few
child
trusts,
provide
some
more
academic
information
regarding
the
connection
between
gun
violence
and
economic
development,
but
also
want
to
continue
to
engage
in
this
conversation
as
well.
A
So
that
way
they
have
the
information
so
that
they
know
young
person
interested
in
this
opportunity
or
that
opportunity
or
this
they
know
their
abilities
to
make
those
connections
in
order
to
help
that
young
person
get
on
the
path
to
self-fulfillment
engagement
and
empowerment,
as
well
as
possibly
entrepreneurship.
A
So
with
that,
I
want
to
thank
all
of
you
for
being
here
this
afternoon,
councilmember
green.
Could
I
just
have
one
comment?
Yes,
that
I
believe
that
was
counterfeit.
Thank
you.
Yes,.
G
Thank
thank
you.
C
Mr
chairman
and
chairman
johnson
also,
this
has
really
been
an
important
meeting
and,
as
you
listen,
we
still
listen
and
learn
and
and
it's
great
to
hear
the
people
who
really
give
their
time
to
testify
because
everybody
wants
to
help
and
and
when
you
hear
from
folks
like
blah,
and
will
it's
really
important
to
understand
that
you
know
we,
as
city
government
need
to
do
more
right.
It's
not
just
the
regular
things
that
we've
done
in
the
past.
C
It's
new
ideas
and
how
we
address
those
new
ideas,
and
it's
so
true
that
you
know
until
you
learn
to
love
yourself.
It's
hard
to
love,
others,
and
you
know
we
as
a
society.
Sometimes
we
always
want
to
put
blame
on
people.
Why
they're
doing
things
instead
of
looking
to
say
how
we
can
promote
ourselves,
how
we
can
promote
the
people
who
are
having
these
challenges?
C
And
you
know
whether
it's
a
father's
day
rally
or
a
gun
buyback
or
that
palau
is
so
involved
with
and
work
with,
all
the
council
members
or
whether
it's
will
littles
be
able
to
to
show
individuals
what
it
is
that
we're
missing
as
as
people
and
when
I
went
through
the
training
and
understanding
and
listening
we
sometimes
as
council
members.
You
know
want
to
think
we
have
all
the
answers.
C
We
throw
all
this
legislation
at
it,
but
sometimes
we
have
to
take
a
step
back
and
listen
and
when
we
listen
and
we
learn-
and
I
think
these
hearings,
what
you
have
done
today
is
give
us
an
opportunity
to
listen
and
learn,
and
I
just
think
that
this
is
a
one
big
step
forward.
C
Obviously
we
have
a
long
way
to
go,
but
listening
and
learning
from
from
our
our
constituents,
people
who
are
in
our
city,
who
really
want
to
help,
make
a
a
come
up
with
a
solution
and
you
know
meet
the
people
where
they
are
is
so
important.
So
I
will
like
I
will
continue
to
work
with
you
and
council
member
johnson,
all
members
of
council,
but
not
only
that,
but
all
the
organizations
and
people
who
are
here
to
help
testify
and
help
us
guide
us
in
a
direction.
That's
really
going
to
make
a
difference.
C
So
thank
you
for
that,
and
and
thank
everybody
who
testifying
and
we
really
appreciate
it,
and
you
know
like
we
said
earlier.
This
is
just
the
first
step.
So
thank
you
for
giving
us
this
opportunity.
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
spoiler.
I
also
like
to
recognize
block
volume.
I
believe
you
had
another
comment
and
I
did
also
see
I
believe
I
saw
ricky
duncan
as
well.
I
wasn't
sure
if
he
wanted
to
testify
as
a
member
of
the
public,
but
I
did
see
his
hand
raised
in
the
chat
feature
and
I
believe
he
is
on
as
well.
So
let's
go
with
mr
quayum
and
then
hopefully
we
can
hear
from
mr
duncan
as
well
and
then
we'll
conclude
on
today's
hearing.
E
Yes,
councilman
green.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
and
the
committee
and
councilman
johnson
for
today's
hearing.
We,
as
you
know
when
I
approach
you
and
other
council
folks
about
addressing
this
issue
around
white
institutional
racism
and
effect
on
violence,
and
you
came,
you
stepped
forward
and
said.
Yes,
let's
do
this,
it's
a
different
discussion
around
violence
that
we
haven't
had
in
the
city
of
philadelphia,
but
also
the
economic
impact.
E
It's
a
different
discussion
and,
and
I'm
a
strong
believer.
I
know
the
work
that
will
little
is
talking
about
changing
your
mind
said
it
is
all
important.
You
know
the
work
that
I
would
be
doing.
The
work
that
pastor
pastor
carl
day
is
doing,
and
other
individuals
is
work
great
work
in
the
city,
but
I
also
believe
if
we
have
a
strong
economic
base
in
the
black
community,
we
will
see
major
changes
and
particularly
as
it
relates
to
violence
and
gun
play
in
the
city
of
philadelphia.
E
More
folks
knocked
out
the
system
not
included,
feel
isolated
or
the
ones
who
are
ice
were
the
ones
who
could
get
more
likely
involved
in
in
responding
to
depression,
early
pressures
with
violence.
So
it's
a
combination
of
things.
It
is
really
a
combination
of
things,
but
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
for
allowing
for
the
participants
today
and
for
your
hosts
in
the
meeting
and
also
I
know
you
have
mentioned
that
there
would
be
follow-up,
which
is
more
important.
E
I
mean
we
need
solutions,
not
more
conversations
as
people
know
me,
I'm
always
looking
for
the
solution
and
let's
get
the
action
moving,
and
I
would
just
say
this
too.
The
folks
who
might
be
stolen
from
the
government
side
in
administration
is
that
we
do
need
these
solutions
and
we
need
to
move
them.
There's
enough
talent
in
this
city
to
solve
this
problem.
So
down
my
mind,
I'm
just
gotta,
like
everybody
is
saying
from
bakarashi
to
you.
E
And
I'm
confident
and
I'm
very
optimistic
that
we
can
see
positive
it
changes,
but
it's
not
going
to
be
overnight.
It's
going
to
take
a
while,
but
I
just
once
again
thank
you
very
much
for
hosting
this
meeting
today.
A
Well,
thank
you
miss
crying
because
it
was
through
you.
The
genesis
of
this
idea
truly
germinated,
and
I
think
this
goes
back
to
my
original
comment
of
how
you
know
from
your
work,
both
with
father's
day
rally
and
other
activities.
You've
done
over
a
number
of
decades
regarding
anti-violence,
but
also
your
work
in
economic
development,
as
in
the
city
of
delta,
also
makes
that
connection
that
much
stronger
and
tighter.
I
was
looking
for
mr
duncan
because
I
did
see
him
on
the
channel.
I'm
here.
A
Oh,
you
are
here.
Okay,
thank
you.
If
you
could
just
state
your
name
for
the
record
and
then
proceed
with
your
testimony,
and
I
believe
he
is
the
last
person
because
I
did
not
see
others
that
have
signed
up
to
testify.
So
please
take
your
name
for
the
record
and
then
receive
with
your
customer.
N
I
just
want
to
again
thank
council
for
allowing
the
people
to
get
a
word
in
on
what's
taking
place
in
our
city
of
philadelphia,
which
at
an
all-time
high,
is
violence,
gun,
violence
being
in
particular,
and
I'm
pretty
sure,
I'm
late
to
the
meeting,
because
for
some
reason
I
didn't
I
didn't
receive,
I
didn't
get
the
the
link
in
time
to
join
the
meeting,
but
someone's
actually
sent
it
to
linkedin
and
allowed
me
to
join
it.
N
So,
but
I'm
pretty
sure
my
comrades
is
on
the
phone
to
spoke
on
everything
that
I
would
I
would
have
spoke
on,
because
you
know
we're
all
in
a
joint
effort
to
combat
the
gun.
Violence,
that's
taking
place
in
philadelphia
right
now
today,
and
I
also
see
some
influence
inferential
game
changers.
That's
also
listed
on
the
call,
so
I
don't
want
to
be
redundant
in
my
testimony.
N
Everything
they
say
sounds
progressive
moving
forward
and
I
would
just
testify
to
the
fact
that
I
hope
that
it's
more
moving
than
talking,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day
I
believe
violence
right
now
is
at
the
state
of
emergency
in
the
city
of
philadelphia.
N
I
believe
our
youth
is
at
risk
and
is,
and
then
it's
most
vulnerable,
that's
taking
place
right
now
in
the
city
of
philadelphia.
So,
like
I
said,
I
don't
want
to
be
redundant
because
I'm
pretty
sure
seeing
the
folks.
That's
on
this
call
that
everything
that
I
would
say
has
already
been
said.
But
again
I
would
like
to
just
thank
you
for
inviting
me
and
putting
this
call
together
and
thank
you
below,
as
a
councilman
green
has
said,
was
an
influential
person
and
putting
this
call
together.
That's
all
I
had
to
say.
A
Well,
mr
duncan,
thank
you,
and
actually
you
don't
need
to
apologize.
I
apologize
to
you
that
you
did
not
have
the
information
in
a
more
timely
fashion,
but
I
want
to
thank
you
for
endeavoring
to
get
on
this
call
and
taking
a
few
moments
out
of
your
day,
considering
the
great
work
that
you've
been
doing
through
your
organization
to
address
this
issue.
A
I
definitely
look
forward
to
continually
engaging
with
you
on
this
issue
and
making
this
connection
between
the
anti-violence
initiatives
and
also
how
we
address
systemic
racism
through
the
lens
of
economic
opportunities,
economic
development,
entrepreneurship
to
really
help
to
grow
wealth,
especially
in
the
african-american
community
and
other
marginalized
communities.
Here
in
the
city
of
philadelphia.
A
Also
any
of
my
colleagues
on
council
who
would
like
to
make
any
additional
comments
regarding
today's
topics
and
questions.
I
just
want
to
really
just
thank
everyone
for
being
here.
I
know
we've
been
on
this
call
for
a
few
hours
and,
as
I
said
in
the
beginning,
so
often
we
talk
about
these
issues
in
various
silos.
Well,
if
you
are
a
person,
that's
addressing
gun
violence,
public
safety-
this
is
your
portfolio
or,
if
you're,
the
person
that
works
on
economic
development,
entrepreneurship.
A
This
is
your
portfolio
or
education
or
health
care,
and
all
of
these
issues
are
interconnected
and
that's
why
I
just
want
to
thank
my
colleague,
councilmember
johnson
and
we've
been
working
together
on
on
this
issue,
but
also
economic
development
issues
with
the
chamber
of
commerce
and
others
to
try
to
create
more
opportunities
in
the
city
of
philadelphia,
and
I
want
to
thank
him
for
always
engaging
me
on
different
issues
and
the
work
that
he's
doing
not
only
in
his
council
district
but
around
the
city
of
philadelphia,
and
I
will
close
with
this
there
being
no
further
questions
from
members
of
the
committee
and
no
other
ways
to
testify,
and
I
believe,
there's
no
one
else
present
in
this
hearing
whose
name
we
have
failed
to
call,
and
I
wish
to
offer
testimony
on
any
bills
being
considered
today.
A
Hearing
none,
I
just
want
to
close
today's
hearing.
Thank
you
for
all
for
your
participation
and
your
attendance.
We
will
continue
this
conversation
and
probably
continue
the
conversation,
a
little
different
format,
especially
from
the
conversation
that
was
started
regarding
the
chain
of
commerce
and
some
of
the
other
organizations.
A
So
I
will
try
to
put
that
type
of
conversation
together
as
well
as
continue
to
push
forward
on
different
ways
that
we
can
help
address
this
issue,
especially
as
we
are
going
through
the
final
quarter
of
our
budget
process
to
address
issues
and
resources
that
so
many
of
you
have
talked
about
in
today's
hearing.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here,
and
at
this
point
I
will
close
this
hearing
and
we'll
recess
to
the
call
of
the
chairs.
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
and
attention,
and
also
your
participation
on
today's
hearing.