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3:17 Backgrounds
4:23 Web3 the New Occupy Wall St?
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A
A
A
So
on
the
Pod
we
have
Sarah
baxtendel
from
the
regen
Network
been
in
web3
for
several
years
has
done
a
bunch
of
stuff
with
permaculture
also
was
involved
in
Occupy
Wall
Street.
Back
in
the
day,
we
have
Benjamin
life
who
works
in
the
independent
political
sector
and
was
a
social
impact
filmmaker
also
involved
in
Occupy
Wall
Street
back
in
the
day.
B
Is
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it's
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and
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is
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the
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focus
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they
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their
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While
opolis
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There's
a
lot
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nation
state
overhead
when
working
in
web
3.
andopolis
takes
care
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C
A
C
Sure
my
name
is
Sarah
Batson
Bell
I'm
here
today,
holding
two
lenses,
one
is
I,
was
a
organizer
for
the
Occupy
Wall
Street
New,
York,
City
sustainability
working
group
and
the
other
is
in
the
world
of
web3.
I,
currently
were
constructive
ecosystem
for
regen
Network,
so
I'm
going
to
try
to
hold
a
little
bit
of
past
and
present
perspective.
In
today's
conversation.
A
Well,
I
I'm
really
excited
to
have
this
conversation
with
you
all
today.
The
topic
is
this
really
obnoxious,
tweet
that
I
sent
that
said,
web3
is
the
new
Occupy
Wall
Street,
which
you
know
created
some
debate
on
Twitter.
But
you
know
the
things
that
I
see
are
that
there's
a
lot
of
X
Occupy
Wall
Street
people
building
in
web
3,
and
because
of
that,
we
have
a
lot
of
being
able
to
think
differently
and
swim
against
the
mainstream.
A
That
caused
me
to
send
that
really
obnoxious,
tweet,
but
I
think
that
the
three
of
us
were
kind
of
debating
in
the
replies
the
merits
of
of
the
parallel
and
and
I
felt
like
it
was
an
important
conversation
and
worth
having
living
in
a
more
High
context,
environment
than
on
Twitter
replies.
So
Sarah,
maybe
I'll
go
to
you
first,
just
to
tee
things
off.
What
is
your?
What
is
your
reaction
to
the
statement?
Web3
is
the
new
Occupy
Wall
Street.
C
C
There
are
a
lot
of
parallels
to
what
really
happened
in
a
natural,
organic
and
unexpected
way
in
Ducati
Park
in
regards
to
how
people
gather
how
they
make
decisions
and
I
think
that
there's
really
a
big
difference
between
what
it's
like
to
be
in
a
crowd
of
5
000
people,
making
a
decision
on
what
it's
like
to
be.
You
know
on
the
internet,
on
Twitter
on
a
commonwealth
Forum
having
an
opinion,
the
discourse
and
the
environment
of
that,
and
the
energy
of
that
to
me
are
really
fundamentally
different,
lived
experiences.
C
Yeah
I
definitely
agree
with
that.
I
mean
I.
Think
for
me,
the
part
that
I
get
stuck
on
really
comes
down
to
what
is
the
point
of
web3,
and
if
you
take
a
look
at
the
vast
majority
of
web3,
it
really
is
about
something
distinctly
to
do
with
the
financial
system.
It's
it's
a
D5
exchange,
it's
some
sort
of
dap.
C
It's
really
focused
frankly
on
people
making
money,
whereas
occupy
was
focused
on
having
a
radical
disruption,
experience
that
was
very
direct
action,
oriented
both
in
the
park
and
in
the
marches
in
the
actual
Street
activism
that
was
really
associated
with
that
experience
and
what
it
was
trying
to
do
there
in
the
financial
district
would
say
the
underlying
structure
of
capitalism
as
a
concept
is
sick.
It
is
a
sickness
that
is
cultural
that
is
really
evolved
across
the
entire
globe
and
so
to
me.
C
But
to
me
the
vast
majority
of
that
is
still
about
people
making
money
first
and
foremost,
and
any
occupation.
That
was
not
the
goal.
The
goal
was
not
for
the
people
that
showed
up
to
make
money,
and
because
of
that,
there
were
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
of
donations
that
came
in,
and
then
there
were
consensus
mechanisms
that
were
enormously
public,
that
anybody
could
join
about
how
that
money
should
be
distributed.
C
So,
for
me,
I
think
that's
the
real
struggle
and
I
I
think
about
it
on
the
level
of
art,
I!
Think
about
it
on
the
level
of
intention.
I.
Think
about
it
and
the
level
of
water
rebuilding
and
why
and
being
from
a
protocol
that
is
environmental
rails,
Financial
Solutions
for
environmental
impact.
You
know
the
financialization
component.
Is
there
as
well
so
I
do
think
Finance?
Is
this
Universal
threat
of
web
3,
but
I
do
wonder
if
the
overall
whole
web
through
space
is
more
just
decentralized
capitalism
than
a
true
evolution.
A
I
think
that's
a
really
interesting.
Take
I
mean
the
way
I'm.
Viewing
this
in
my
mind,
is
that
there's
like
the
web
3
movement,
which
is
just
decentralized
immutable,
ledgers
that
you
can
program
your
values
into
and
there's
like
one
Circle
there
and
then
there's
like
it's
almost
like
a
Venn
diagram.
A
3
side
is
like
just
more
capitalism,
and
you
know
unfortunately,
there's
like
FTX,
collapses
and
and
scams
that
are
out
there
too,
and
so
maybe
within
the
within
that
Venn
diagram.
That's
where
web3
is
the
new
Occupy,
Wall
Street,
but
I
do
think
that
within
that
that
intersection
there
is
some
really
interesting
opportunity,
space
for
doing
things
that
maybe
would
have
felt
naive
12
years
ago
for
creating
real
systemic
change
and
and
and
and
that's
that's,
why
I'm
excited
about
this
conversation.
D
The
the
one
thing
about
the
the
hyper
financialization
that
I
think
is
interesting
to
to
track.
Is
we
we're
we've
never
been
in
this
part
of
the
cycle
before
I
mean
there?
I
haven't
been
in
crypto
long
enough
to
have
seen
as
many
of
the
bearable
cycles
that
I
think
maybe
both
of
you
have
but
I'm
curious.
D
D
Think
the
hyper
financialization
kind
of
already
destroyed
itself
in
web3
and
I'm
curious
to
see
if
that
aspect
of
web3
makes
it
through
this
next
phase,
and
you
know
the
the
meme
of
the
Degen
to
regen
pipeline
like
I'm
curious
how
many
degen's
through
this
cycle
will
actually
move
into
more
of
the
refi
space.
Yeah.
C
And
re-fired
the
use
case
aside,
I
think
the
most.
For
me,
this
is
just
my
personal
opinion.
Having
been
here
for
a
couple
years.
I
think
the
most
interesting
thing
about
blockchain
is
application,
specific
use
case
potential
and
the
fundamental
transparency
of
the
data
set.
The
democratization
of
participation,
the
autonomy
of
holding
your
own
keys
to
me.
I
think
that
we're
gonna
have
to
as
a
culture
and
as
a
blockchain
community
really
make
a
choice
to
Showcase
these
real
world
use
cases.
C
If
we
can't
make
a
strong
enough
industry-wide
argument
that
blockchain
has
real
world
use
cases
and
can
be
a
real
value
proposition
on
the
global
level,
we
are
going
to
get
out
regulated.
There's,
there's
just
no
way
around
that
and
for
me,
I
was
thinking
about
this
earlier
about
you
know,
I
was
saying
in
terms
of
police,
because
when,
when
I
got
down
to
Occupy
Wall
Street,
to
be
completely
honest,
it
was
an
absolute
accident.
I
thought
Radiohead
was
playing.
Someone
sent
me
like
a
one-time
email
straight
up
and
now
I
got
there.
C
The
total
Universe
accident
I
had
no
idea.
It's
crazy,
but
I
ended
up
in
this
March
to
the
police
headquarters
in
New,
York
City
and
the
energy
of
the
experience
at
the
time.
I
didn't
even
know
what
police
brutality
was.
In
my
you
know,
upper
middle
class,
New,
England
white
privilege.
It
wasn't.
You
know
a
world
view
that
that
I
had
come
from
and
I
was
thinking
this
morning
about
the
the
system
aggression
I
saw
it
occupy
the
people
who
the
police
curb
stopped.
C
The
fingers
and
hands
I
saw
broken
the
ripping,
apart
of
direct
action
activists
linked
together
arm
to
arm
on
Bridges,
and
comparing
that,
as
like
a
social
subjugation
to
the
lack
of
federal
action
around
collapses.
Like
FTX
really
makes
me
question
intention
around
our
industry
from
our
regulatory
level,
because
I
think
there's
so
much
Wall
Street
Capital
in
all
of
the
investment
and
all
of
the
exchanges
and
in
all
of
the
organizations
that
to
some
extent,
I
actually
think
that
they're
afraid
to
regulate
and
they've
been
afraid
to
regulate
for
a
long
time.
C
Because
to
me
you
know
a
lot
of
the
Occupy
Wall
Street
notes
are
lost
somewhere
in
a
Google
group
that,
if
I
work
hard
enough,
I
could
probably
find
a
password
to.
But
none
of
that
as
a
historical
record
is
public.
None
of
that
decision
making
is
something
that
everyone
can't
get
access
to.
So
I
do
think
we're
in
a
different
social
Evolution
point
in
this
juncture
and
I
really
look
forward
to
how
we
communicate
our
use
cases
and
how
we
build
public
conferences
about
them.
C
The
one
thing
I
walked
away
with
more
than
anything
from
occupy
is
a
love
of
public
decision
making
and
like
a
real
willingness
to
be
like
radically
vulnerable
and
a
pile
of
people.
Making
decisions
and
helping
people
make
decisions
and
I
think
we
have
a
real
opportunity
to
build
a
shared
governance,
culture
and
a
shared
decision-making
culture.
That
I
don't
think
we
put
enough
time
and
energy
into
we
put
energy
into
defy
exchanges
and
getting
our
little
Rewards
and
we've
all
participated.
C
Let's
not
pretend
like
we're
not
up
in
there
reaping
all
the
aprs
that
were
so
crazy,
but
I
think
it
demands
something
more
of
us
on
a
soul
level
and
so
I'm
kind
of
excited
about
the
bear
Market,
because
I
just
think
that
we
can
evolve.
Why
we're
here
and
our
intentions
more
authentic
way,
when
we're
not
stuck
in
a
hype
cycle.
D
But
when
I
imagine
occupy
happening
again
now
powered
by
Dows
and
to
actually
have
be
able
to
collectively
raise
and
hold
funds
to
pay
for
the
Medics
to
pay
for
food.
It
feels
like
it.
It
would
accelerate
occupy
if
it
were
to
happen
again
to
have
those
tools
and
it
might
actually
improve
web3,
because
a
lot
of
people
who
are
in
the
social
process
space
could
actually
integrate
that
wisdom
into
the
web.
3
Tech
stack
one.
A
Of
the
things
that
I've
been
studying
as
a
technologist
for
the
last
couple
decades
is
technology,
Trends
and
and
there's
this
thing
called
the
Gartner
hype
cycle
in
which
you
have
some
sort
of
trigger
that
creates
a
peak
of
inflated
expectations
and
then
that
collapses
and
you
go
into
this
thing-
called
the
trough
of
disillusionment
and
and
then
you
get
into
What's
called
the
slope
of
Enlightenment.
And
then
there's
this
thing
called
the
plateau
of
productivity.
A
And
you
know
this
is
sort
of
a
sort
of
something
that
assumes
that
the
technology
gets
through
the
trough
of
disillusionment.
In
reality,
there's
a
bunch
of
different
technologies
that
just
stay
in
the
disillusionment
draw
forever,
because
there's
never
a
slope
of
Enlightenment
and
I'm
wondering
if
you
know
I,
I've,
I'm
kind
of
just
thinking
about
that
as
a
cyclical
way.
That
movements
happen
and
just
thinking
about
the
peak
of
inflated
expectations.
D
This
really
incredible
organization
called
the
bloom,
Network
and
they're
building
on
web3,
but
they're
mostly
focused
on,
like
actually
improving
quality
of
life
in
place,
and
so
they,
you
know,
build
Community
Gardens
and
they
do
after
school
programming
and
they're.
This
very
post-capitalist
anti-capitalist
organization,
but
they're
not
protesting
anything
and
I
think
that's
a
really
interesting
paradigm
shift
with
web3,
where
the
the
kind
of
solar
Punk
ethos
of
like
well.
D
C
I
want
to
add
some
Parallels
for
my
own
experience,
because
I
actually
think
it's
a
back
and
forth
that
happens
to
to
everybody
on
an
individual
level.
So
you
know
when
I,
when
I
was
in
Ducati
Park
sustainability
working
group
only
gave
like
it
only
gave
you
crap
about
the
Earth,
like
I
literally
found
it,
because
someone
had
painted
the
Earth
on
a
piece
of
just
like
you
know
whatever
and
I
was
like.
C
C
C
C
I
became
a
Solutions
architect
and
spent
a
Whole
Decade
building
Farms
building
Gardens
helping
communities
decide
how
to
redesign
their
Park
re-envisioning
public
space
through
group
design
and
public
decision
making
process
I
mean
there
were
25
000
people
who
participated
in
decisions
for
the
parks.
That
I
was
a
planner
for
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
for
almost
seven
years
and
now
I
work
at
Regent
and
I
find
that
this
I
have
this
new
desire
to
protest,
and
it's
not
that
I
would
go
in
the
street,
but
I
think
being
comfortable
enough.
C
Being
vulnerable
and
speaking
up
is
a
really
critical
aspect
of
intervening
in
our
complacency,
and
you
know
now
that
I
have
more
technical
experience
under
my
belt.
I
can
I
can
explain
to
you
how
the
different
blockchains
work
and
how
the
assets
move
and
the
architecture
and
decision
making
and
the
code
in
a
way
that
you
know.
That's
not
my
background.
C
I
find
this.
This
new
arrival
at
a
point
of
saying
in
these
cycles
that
we're
in
we
have
to
speak
up
and
not
be
complacent,
and
so
our
voice
and
our
creation
is
in
fact
protest
as
well
as
it
is
building
the
rails
that
are
fundamentally
necessary
to
build
a
new
economic
system,
and
my
question
is
really
like:
what
is
our
shared
value
set?
C
C
What
are
we
here
to
build,
and
how
do
we
build
cross-organizational
consensus
around
what
that
mechanism
should
look
like
in
a
way
where
we
can
be
decentralized,
but
we
can
come
together
with
a
shared
ethos,
I'm
looking
for
that
charity
ethos
being
this
far
along
in
this
journey
and
I'm.
Looking
for
how
we
build
charity
ethos
across
whose
Tech
is
best
and
who's
protocols
flies
or
who
thinks
they're,
you
know
fanciest
on
the
deck
here.
C
D
Don't
have
an
answer
for
this,
but
I
feel,
like
you
know,
is
there
a
sort
of
social
architecture
with
that
could
be
that
could
utilize
web3
to
help
build
the
nodes
of
of
the
movement
and
the
connections
between
those
nodes,
because
it
feels
like
we
actually
are
all
rooted
in
at
some
levels.
There's
certain
Universal
principles:
I
keep
I,
come
back
to
life
and
quality
of
life
as
a
kind
of
universal
principle
like
we're
all
going
to
have
different
experiences
of
what
quality
of
life
means
to
us.
D
But
if
we
can
collectively
say
we
actually
want
to
create
an
economic
system
that
that
improves
the
well-being
of
people
and
communities,
then
that
creates
at
least
some
kind
of
a
shared
value
system
and
but
then
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
to
metabolize
to
actually
come
into
alignment
as
a
larger
movement
together
and
so
I.
Don't
have
the
answers
for
this,
but
I'm
I'm
curious
how
technology
might
be
able
to
scaffold
the
the
process
of
depolarization
and
helping
people
find
those
shared
value
systems.
One.
A
Think
that
that's
maybe
one
maturation
point
that
we
really
need
to
see
is
is
creating
systems
that
are
stable
and
can
hold
power
and
still
be
legitimate
in
if,
if
occupy,
was
to
move
on
to
web3
rails
and-
and
it
seems
like
occupy,
was
really
good
at
disrupting
power,
or
at
least
creating
a
social
movement
that
felt
like
it
could
disrupt
power.
What
would
it
look
like
to
hold
power
as
the
generation
that
went
through
occupy
matures
is
kind
of
the
question
at
the
tip
of
my
tongue?.
C
C
The
blockchain
infrastructure
carbonoff
setting
working
group
has
been
trying
to
like
gather
all
the
refund
homies
for
you
know
a
year,
and
it
never
felt
so
alive
as
when
we
all
met
in
coconut
Colombia
in
person
and
actually
got
to
see
each
other
face
to
face
and
actually
got
to
develop
real
relationships
and
actually
got
to
talk
about
what
does
technological
interoperability
with
like
to
us,
and
how
can
we
really
work
together?
What's
our
shared
value
is?
How
can
we
share
resources?
C
Think
they're,
really
expanding
the
capital
investment
into
those
spaces
and
finding
ways
to
really
fund
those
economic
models
is
largely
going
to
be
critical
to
us.
Having
power,
we
don't
have
power
unless
you
have
place
unless
you
have
position
and
a
lot
of
that
still
rests
on
this
investment
Capital
cycle.
That
again
comes
back
to
that
99
thing
and
are
we
going
to
be
Bankers
or
are
we
going
to
be
the
bank
lists
and
and
how
do
we?
C
How
do
we
negotiate
and
navigate
between
outside
forces
and
forces
of
ourselves,
because
I
think
we
create
so
much
value?
That,
in
my
mind,
is
worth
so
much
more
to
our
social
and
planetary
Evolution
than
like
the
big
D5
verticals
that
have
a
lot
of
you
know.
Total
value
left
I
want
to
see
like
total
value,
captured
into
social
organization
and
into
resilience
systems,
and
that
requires
a
real
Evolution,
but
it
also
requires
a
big
capital
investment,
as
you
value
proposition
in
our
ecosystems,.
D
Yeah,
it
feels
like
the
the
maturation
of
both
how
we
approach
the
strategy
of
them
of
the
movement,
realizing
that
at
a
structural
level,
we
we
are
in
some
ways
forced
to
play
into
some
amount
of
financialization
of
even
social
impact
and
yet
there's
ways
that
we
can
do
that
in
a
more
ethical
way.
That's
aligned
with
our
principles
and
values.
D
I
was
reminded
of
the
experiment
of
redemption
Dao,
which,
if
you
were
in
tracking
it,
was
very
similar
to
Constitution
doubt
people
trying
to
raise
money
to
buy
land
in
the
Congo
and
there's
a
lot
of
complex
intersectional
conversation.
We
could
have
around
colonization
and
the
kind
of
naivete
of
some
of
the
organizers
who
weren't
aware
of
just
how
challenging
it
is
to
work
with
it
with
the
government
in
the
Congo.
But
it
came
from
this
like
deep
I
felt
it
myself
of
like
reading
in
the
New
York
Times.
D
This
giant
area
of
rainforest
is
going
to
be
extracted
and
the
amount
of
carbon
that's
released
from
the
peat
lands
alone
in
that
area,
let
alone
the
the
fossil
fuels
that
will
be
burned
that
will
be
extracted
from
that
place.
It
was
so
viscerally
disturbing
that
I
got
the
impulse
of
why
people
wanted
to
raise
as
many
millions
as
possible
in
a
very
short
period
of
time,
to
buy
that
land
and
put
it
into
a
trust,
and
so
I
think
where
things
get
really
real
is
like.
D
What,
if,
on
the
other
side
of
that
they're,
a
group
of
refi
investors
who
are
going
to
buy
the
contracts
to
those
natural
resources
to
keep
them
in
the
ground?
Is
that
a
strategic
necessity
at
this
point?
If
we
found
that
the
wheels
of
capitalism
keep
turning,
no
matter,
how
many
people
put
their
bodies
in
front
of
it
to
try
to
get
it
to
stop,
do
we
actually
have
to
use
capitalism
to
end
capitalism,
and
that's
that's
the
inquiry
I'm
in.
C
So,
I,
like
to
the
phrase
I
use
with
like
Gregory
from
regen,
is
I
like
to
call
it
composting
capital,
I'm,
not
afraid
to
use
the
structural
mechanism
to
say,
okay
cool.
How
do
we
you
know?
How
do
we
take
those
funds
and
put
them
into
something
really
extraordinary
that
it's
going
to
change
many
different
people's
lives?
C
I
think
that's
possible,
but
it
requires
a
willingness
for
all
of
our
leaders
in
this
ecosystem
to
work
together
to
largely
take
time
out
of
their
days
to
work
together
to
raise
funding
at
a
scale
that
allows
us
to
have
control
over
the
solutions,
architecture
and
the
decision-making
architecture,
and
you
know
I,
would
love
to
see
that
be
possible,
and
you
know
hearing
this
in
in
myself
out
loud.
You
know
I
wonder
if
maybe
that's
part
of
my
next
wave
of
service
in
web
3
is
pushing
that
dial
Beyond.
C
You
know
the
stratified
lines
of
who
we
work
for
and
whose
Tech
we
build
into.
How
do
we
movement
build
and
capitalize
Solutions
oriented
movement
building
in
a
way
that
is
authentic
and
transparent
and
Collective?
I
think
that
could
really
change
a
lot
of
things
around
the
world
if
we
were
focused
and
coordinated
collectively.
The.
B
World
has
woken
up
to
refi
and
celo
is
here
for
it.
Celo
is
the
layer
one
for
the
regenerative,
Finance
movement,
it's
fast,
Planet,
positive
and
built
for
the
real
world.
Cello
has
committed
to
producing
a
sustainable
future
from
day
one
and
has
built
its
technology
around
one
of
the
lowest
carbon
impacts,
consensus
mechanisms
and
is
the
world's
first
carbon
negative
evm
compatible
layer.
B
Cello
was
created
to
transform
crypto
enthusiasts
into
a
movement
of
change
makers,
follow
along
on
Twitter
at
celloorg
to
learn
more
about
how
cello
is
accelerating
refi
for
a
positive,
lasting
impact
on
people,
communities
and
the
planet,
and
if
you're,
a
builder
interested
in
refi
be
sure
to
join
the
build
with
sellout
hackathon
live
now
with
a
prize
pool
of
over
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
Goldfinch
is
a
decentralized
credit
protocol
with
a
mission
to
connect
the
world's
Capital
to
the
world's
growth.
Goldfinch
focuses
on
real
yields
from
real
companies.
B
So
start
lending
your
usdc
to
real
businesses,
driving
growth
worldwide
goldfinches
borrowers
are
proven
fintechs
and
credit
funds
in
Emerging
Markets
who
need
access
to
goldfinches
Capital
to
drive
economic
growth
in
regions
faced
with
barriers
to
financial
access
in
just
under
two
years,
Goldfinch
has
loaned
over
100
million
usdc
reaching
over
a
million
people
in
businesses
across
28
countries.
Goldfinch
is
doing
what
D5
was
always
meant
to
do.
Expanding
Financial
access
to
those
who
have
historically
been
shut
out
of
the
tradpy
system
so
so
become
a
goldfinch
member
to
put
your
uscc
to
work.
A
What
you
all
said
about
was
using
capitalism
to
end
capitalism.
Kind
of
reminds
me
of
you
know,
there's
this.
This
Winston
Churchill
quote
about
how
democracy
is
the
worst
form
of
government,
except
for
all
all
the
others
that
have
been
tried
and
I
kind
of
feel
like
the
same
way
about
capitalism.
Is
that
it's
it's
the
worst
form
of
economic
systems,
except
for
all
the
other
ones?
A
A
Think
the
decentralized
markets
are
a
really
powerful
tool
for
allocating
Capital,
but
we
just
need
to
it's
like
they
need
to
be
oriented
in
the
right
direction
and
I
feel
like
that's
the
opportunity
of
the
space
and
and
also
maybe
creating
little
local
bubbles.
Isn't
the
right
word,
but
local
economies
that
are
oriented
around
public
goods
or
permaculture
or
Civic
spaces,
and
and
allowing
them
to
have
their
own
value
systems
and
capital
that
Finance
them
feels
like
a
huge
opportunity
for
this
space.
A
D
So
what
are
the
core
human
needs
that
need
to
be
designed
for
in
these
parallel
systems
to
minimize
human
suffering
as
the
Glo
as
globalized,
Supply
chains
begin
to
fracture
and
fail
and
I
think
that
can
actually
help
Orient
our
building
towards
the
things
that
actually
are
needed
at
the
Grassroots
level
to
create
Healthy
Communities
instead
of
this
sort
of
abstraction
of
like
let's
try
a
bunch
of
different
things
like,
let's
definitely
experiment
but
I,
think
having
a
kind
of
design
space.
That's
like
how
do
we
work
on
local
food?
D
How
do
we
ensure
that
we
have
clean
water?
How
do
we
put
more
of
our
community
land
into
trust
and
have
funding
to
rehabilitate
areas
that
have
been
really
profoundly
extracted
from,
and
those
kind
of
heuristics
I
feel
like
are
the
kind
of
where
it
grounds
in,
and
it's
it's
not
just
sort
of
the
abstraction
of
making
any
type
of
system.
It's
like.
How
do
we
design
using
web3
to
account
for
the.
A
Core
human
needs,
so
I
mean
as
someone
who's
in
this
movement-
and
you
know
maybe
I
know
more
about
it
than
most
from
doing
70
episodes
of
this
podcast
and
like
is
it
it
feels
like
those
experiments
are
happening.
I
mean
I'm.
Looking
at
the
regen
Network
I'm,
looking
at
proof
of
humanity,
I'm.
Looking
at
all
the
hundreds
of
impact
owls
that
we've
found
to
me.
The
problem
is
that
the
design
space
we
have
the
tools.
The
problem
is
that
the
talent
and
the
capital
are
not
focused
on
those
tools.
A
They're
focused
on
Vegetable
Farms,
they're
focused
on
with
chasing
the
highest
yield,
and
so
the
big
opportunity
for
me
feels
like
how
can
we
plant
in
the
in
the
minds
of
of
a
hundred
thousand
digens
this
idea
that
the
best
yields
come
from
going
into
regen
web3
projects
into
the
regen
Network
into
proof
of
humanity
into
impact
else,
because
what
that
does
is
it
up
regulates?
Those
projects
allows
them
to
scale
their
Capital.
It
gives
sustainable
yields,
I
mean
assuming
these
things.
A
A
You
know
the
financials
should
be
a
means
to
an
end,
not
an
end
in
themselves.
In
my
opinion-
and
it
just
feels
like
it
solves
problems
for
all
the
different
actors
in
the
ecosystem.
But
I
don't
know
how
to
make
a
case
that
case
to
the
djends,
because
it
like
I
think
as
soon
as
they
hear
a
social
impact.
A
C
It's
interesting
we're
facing
this
right
now.
With
this
campaign
we
have
called
cosmosero
and
the
goal
is
just
to
get
protocols
and
validators
to
take
responsibility
and
offset
their
footprint.
They
have
a
footprint,
let's
just
be
honest
here,
but
what
is
getting
people
to
participate
is
in
climate,
altruism,
as
I
would
describe
it.
It's
that
there's
going
to
be
a
liquid
pool
of
carbon.
It's
that
there's
gonna
be
rewards,
it's
that
they
could
do
a
native
token
Swap.
C
All
of
these
financialization
mechanisms,
and
so
I
think
we
have
to
be
as
people
inside
the
impact
space
unafraid
to
utilize
capitalistic
language
in
order
to
draw
them
in
and
I
think
we
just
have
to
come
up
with
a
better
strategy
of
like
cool
degender.
Regen
is
a
meme,
but
like
how
many
people
really
care
about
that.
C
It's
only
us
making
fun
of
them
and
like
isolating
ourselves
with
that
Meme
I'm
more
interested
in
like
how
do
we
really
tell
a
financialization
story
for
ecological
systems
and
those
social
impact
of
those
ecological
systems,
because
to
me
you
know
that
single
drum
beat,
and
this
is
what
I
look
up
to
at
occupied.
It's
the
gift
that
it
gave
me
that
keeps
on
giving
is
that
the
climate
collapse
is
the
only
thing
we're
putting
my
time,
my
energy
and
my
money
into,
and
if
I
was
so
independently
wealthy
that
I
could
fund
everything.
C
D
I
I
do
have
like
one
group
of
really
close
d-gen
friends
of
mine
and
it's
kind
of
rare
for
me
to
have
that
experience
of
like
trying
to
instill
or
advocate
for
principles
that
really
matter
to
me,
but
to
feel
like
there's
this
kind
of
nihilism
in
the
Degen
space.
That's
just
like
yeah
cool,
like
have
you
seen
this
like
stick
man,
it's
the
latest,
one
that
I'm
Shilling,
and
it's
been
really
hard
for
me
because
I'm
so
Earnest.
It
like
actually
required
me
to
actually
become
to
let
go
and
be
like.
D
Okay,
if
you
guys
want
to
do
that,
I'll
be
over
here.
Building
this
stuff,
if
you
ever
want
to
come,
hang
out
you're,
welcome
to
and
there's
this
real
question
of
like
what
is
value,
what
is
valuable
and
then
this
sort
of
nihilistic,
d-gen
space
like
well
whatever
anything,
can
be
valuable
instead
of
like
Community,
is
valuable.
A,
Healthy,
Living
Earth
is
viable
and
so
I
don't
know
how
you
make
that
bridge.
I.
C
C
So
to
me,
that's
like
the
Lynch
pin
in
the
situation
that,
if
you
pull
out
the
whole
damn
blows,
but
that
takes
a
long
time
for
people
to
make
brave
choices
at
corporate
levels
and
I
think
that
looking
at
what
is
it
that
we
value
and
how
and
why
it's
a
conversation
we
need
to
have
in
a
more
mathematical
and
forthright
fashion
than
we
currently
do.
We
can't
lead
with
hey
climate
Doom
or
hey
impact
good.
C
We
need
to
lead
with
dollars
and
cents
and
be
okay
doing
that,
because
it
transforms
and
compost
Capital
into
the
system
that
we
think
it
ought
to
be,
but
that
drives
from
first
principles
as
I
go
back
to
do.
We
all
have
the
same
drum
beat.
Can
we
Define
our
principles
and
have
multiple
strategies
to
that
aim,
depending
on
who
you
are
and
what
you
bring
to.
D
I
I
think
the
the
I
love
the
kind
of
the
Paradox
here,
because
I
think
that
there's
something
about
the
financialization
of
carbon
and
of
social
impact
that
I
think
occupy
did
a
better
job
than
web3
has
so
far
of
questioning
the
underlying
values,
systems
of
capitalism
itself
and
I.
Don't
want
to
go
off
on
a
whole
tangent
now.
But
there's
this
notion
of
energy
blindness.
D
C
A
really
good
point,
I
think
I
want
to
leave
everyone
with
a
little
bit
of
hope
that
this
is
going
to
be
better
suited
for
those
that
are
able
to
watch
on
YouTube
so
for
anyone
who's
listening,
you
should
go
see
this
on
YouTube
I
have
some
real
art
from
occupy.
I
would
like
to
show
you
because
I
am
a
hoarder
of
you
know
important
historical
artifacts
from
the
journey.
C
Oh
yeah
and
I
want
to
make
some
points,
so
this
is
a
print
of
the
march
across
the
Brooklyn
Bridge
by
a
wonderful
artist
named
lopi
larrow,
very
good
friend
of
mine
I've,
seen
a
long
time.
But
if
you
look
at
the
spread
that
front
line
is
women
and
I
think
here
in
web
3,
we
need
to
have
more
women,
more
non-verinary
people,
more
people
of
color,
using
these
tools
with
us,
because
occupations
and
Evolutions
are
often
driven
by
women
and
those
who
are
marginalized
so
on
their
behalf.
C
C
This
is
my
favorite
picture
of
the
whole
occupation
in
one
of
the
newspapers.
It's
like
this
young,
radical
activist
cup,
letting
me
know
who
they
are
kissing
and
I
just
want
to
remind
folks
that
love
the
love
of
ourselves
love
our
communities.
Love
possibility
is
a
true
driving
force
and
a
first
principle
that
I
think
is
really
important.
I
should
think
this
is
like
the
sweetest
photo.
I
ever
saw
if
I
didn't
keep
the
rest
of
the
newspaper
I
literally
just
like
kept
this
page
as.
A
C
I
know
totally
they
they
had
this
epic
Journal
club,
and
this
might
make
some
terrible
audios
I
open
this,
but
I
have
the
general
strike.
Edition
filled
with
arts
and
different
posters.
So
I
want
to
show
you
a
couple
of
them
here,
because
I
think
that
we
don't
do
enough
climate
Joy.
We
didn't
do
enough
art
as
activism
in
web
3.
We
view
art
as
commodification,
but
do
we
just
make
art
to
raise
money?
Do
we
just
make
art
to
like
emancipate
people
from
the
drudgery
of
their
daily
lives?
A
So
if
you're
listening,
we'll
have
a
link
to
the
YouTube
in
the
show
notes
where
you
can
check
out
the
last
five
minutes
in
which
Sarah
shows
us
her
beautiful
art,
but
I
also
think
that
your
audio
voice
over
as
you're
talking
to
them
is
is
worthwhile
for
audio
listeners
as
well.
So
thank
you
for
sharing
that
pleasure.
A
Letting
me
share,
this
has
been
a
really
amazing
conversation,
appreciate
the
thoughtfulness
in
the
care
that
went
into
preparing
for
it
and
and
also
just
the
fact
that
we
took
a
low
nuanced
conversation
on
Twitter
and
brought
it
into
a
high
nuanced
place
here.
So
thanks
to
the
listeners
for
listening
and
and
Sarah
and
Benjamin,
thank
you
for
joining.