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A
So
having
said
that,
based
on
what
you're,
seeing
currently
in
the
market
in
the
climate
space
What,
can
we
look
forward
to
from
region
Network
in
2023
foreign.
B
To
be
here
well,
I'll,
just
say:
Hi
and
and
yeah
super
grateful
to
be
here
and
to
get
to
jam
a
little
bit
and
maybe
I'll
pass
the
Baton
on
to
Sarah,
because
in
the
lead
up,
what
listeners
won't
know
is
that
she
just
gave
a
brilliant
synopsis
answer
to
that.
So
maybe
she
can
introduce
herself
briefly
and
then
and
then
give
a
quick,
quick
answer
to
that
question.
C
Yeah
I'm
Sarah
from
region,
Network
I'm,
our
director
of
ecosystem,
so
my
my
job
is
to
weave
in
places
in
the
shadows
and
pull
things
together,
but
there's
a
lot
moving
in
the
world
of
regen
coming
up
in
2023,
which
is
super
exciting.
C
This
fall
in
Fall
of
2022
we
launched
regen
Marketplace,
which
is
our
application
for
buying
carbon
credits
and
other
ecological
assets
that
are
tokenized
on
the
blockchain
and
that
launch
featured
a
the
first
real
registry
to
blockchain
Partnership
of
City
forest
credit
to
registry,
putting
nearly
all
of
the
credits
they've
ever
produced
onto
the
blockchain
in
the
region,
Network
Marketplace.
C
So
for
the
very
first
time
a
full
registry
from
the
traditional
carbon
world
put
their
entire
portfolio
of
credits
for
sale
onto
a
blockchain,
Marketplace
and
tokenized
them.
So
folks
can
go
there.
They
can
use
the
app
they
can
make
purchases
of
credits,
they
can
retire
credits,
trade
them,
sell
them,
and
then
we're
also
gearing
up
this
spring
for
the
launch
of
major
carbon
10,
which
is
a
a
real
world.
C
Carbon
asset
pool
of
Vera
credits
that
were
tokenized
originally
by
the
toucan
protocol,
which
we
developed
a
standard
for
with
toucan
and
Moss
over
a
year
ago,
and
we
are
launching
a
bridge
between
regen
Ledger,
the
code
of
regen,
Network
and
polygon,
in
order
to
be
able
to
move
nature,
carbon
10
between
the
polygon
ecosystem
and
the
cosmos
ecosystem,
which
are
two
of
the
largest
refight
ecosystems
on
the
blockchain
and
we'll
be
launching
pools
of
nature.
C
Carbon
10
on
the
osmosis
exchange,
which
brings
for
the
very
first
time,
carbon,
which
is
a
real
world
asset.
It's
a
financial
commodity,
a
digitized
form
of
it
into
the
cosmos
ecosystem
and,
along
with
that
launch,
we
are
working
through
a
really
big.
C
Community-Wide
campaign
called
Cosmos
zero,
where
valid
editors
and
a
really
significant
number
of
protocols
in
the
cosmos
ecosystem
are
using
the
power
of
community
governance
to
put
up
proposals
to
their
community
pools,
to
become
carbon
neutral
by
buying
NCT
and
the
osmosis
exchange
and
City
forest
credits
and
regen
Network,
and
so
so
far.
I
have
a
fun
little
board,
which
I
look
at
many
times
a
day,
hoping
that
more
protocols
will
join
the
campaign,
but
so
far
we
have
commitments
from
checked,
Empower,
exo-osmosis
and
regen.
C
At
this
very
moment,
at
gork
and
Akasha,
in
a
vote
to
become
carbon,
neutral
gravity,
bridge,
injective
and
Junu
are
in
discussion
and
launching
next
week
are
Cosmos
Hub
and
evmos,
which
are
two
of
the
biggest
chains.
So
there's
a
wave
of
climate
impact
responsibility
happening
in
the
cosmos
ecosystem
and
we're
just
really
excited
to
be
a
part
of
the
process
and
to
have
so
many
validators
and
protocols,
utilizing
the
power
of
community
and
community
decision
making
to
take
responsibility
for
their
carbon
footprint
all
at
one
time.
C
B
Well,
I
think
that's
such
a
great
overview
and
I
think
the
you
know.
The
the
synopsis
here
is
that
interchain
carbon
is
now
a
thing
we
are
about
to
have
carbon
liquidity.
We
have
digitally
native
assets
that
are
coming
into
a
community-owned
Marketplace.
That's
disintermediated,
there's
just
a
the
list
of
Milestones
that
what
Sarah
just
rep
sort
of
gave
us
the
summary
of
is
so
Monumental.
It's
been
really.
You
know.
B
It's
been
really
five
years
of
work
to
get
to
the
stage
where
now
things
are
happening
in
the
marketplace,
driven
by
governance,
Community
engagement,
so
it's
it's
2023,
we're
sort
of
starting
off
with
this
enormous
amount
of
really
heavy
lifting
that
took
place
not
just
in
2022,
but
for
the
previous
years.
Really,
you
know
one
thing
I
will
add
on
top
of
all
of
that,
and
then
we
can
sort
of
circle
back
and
continue
to
Hype
how
cool
it
is
to
have
on-chain
carbon.
B
One
thing
I'll.
Add
that
I'm
very
excited
about
is
that
in
the
there's,
a
set
of
native
regen
native
credits,
Eco
credits
that
are
coming
on
chain
in
the
first
quarter
of
this
year
and
among
those
are
actually
biodiversity,
credits
and
holistic,
ecological
Health
credits
that
aren't
just
carbon
and
that's
something
I'm,
particularly
passionate
about
and
excited
to
start
to
see.
Moving
forward.
Is
you
know
it's
really
interesting?
B
Carbon
is
important
and
it's
important
to
get
a
price
on
carbon,
and
maybe
we
can
talk
about
the
how
and
the
why
of
that,
because
it's
an
important
you
know
element
of
the
regenerative,
Finance
vision
and
of
what
region
network
is
doing
in
the
world,
of
course,
but
also
Beyond
carbon
there's
an
entire
world
of
real
world
ecological
assets
that
we
depend
on
our
the
human
economy
depends
on.
You
know.
B
The
health
of
the
planet
depends
on
in
biodiversity
is
really
you
know,
a
super
exciting
thing
that's
coming
on
the
horizon
and
that
the
the
first
steps
have
started
to
be
taken
towards
that,
and
it's
it's
been
on
my
mind,
because
I
spent
right
before
the
holidays,
I
spent
one
of
my
last
working
weeks
before
I
took,
took
a
little
bit
of
a
break
up
in
Montreal
at
the
biodiversity
Congress
of
the
parties,
which
is
This,
Global
Gathering
of
leaders,
nation
states,
corporate
leaders
working
through
agreements
in
this
this
case
cop15,
is
about
biodiversity,
about
agreements
and
treaties
around
protecting
Global
biodiversity,
and
there
was
really
a
Monumental
and
Watershed
set
of
agreements
that
were
created
that
part
of
that
has
created
this
huge
Market
space
for
a
new
set
of
ecological
assets,
focused
on
biodiversity,
stewardship
and
commitment
from
all
of
the
signatory
countries
to
enforce
reporting
requirements
and
and
goals
and
the
achievement
of
goals
regarding
protecting
biodiversity
from
corporations
who
are
operating
in
those
companies.
B
So
it
was
really
big.
Actually,
it's
really
big
deal,
and
so,
in
addition
to
kind
of
the
the
the
carbon
economy,
that's
starting
to
evolve.
Where
we're
starting
to
understand
that
to
have
a
stable
climate,
we
need
to
price
carbon
and
we
need
to
incentivize
by
doing
that.
Incentivize
people
to
sequester
carbon
and
store
carbon
in
living
systems
or
reduce
emissions
in
different
ways.
B
Also,
it's
important
to
understand
that
that's
just
one
piece
of
a
more
holistic
puzzle
and
biodiversity
is
another
very
important
piece
of
that,
and
when
you
get
this
intersection
of
biodiversity
and
carbon,
we
really
start
to
see
what
a
regenerative
asset
might
look
like,
where
it
isn't
just
carbon
tunnel
vision,
carbon
tunnel
vision
and
carbon
reductionism,
but
instead
we're
starting
to
see
that
when
you
at
the
intersection
of
biodiversity
and
carbon
regeneration,
is
taking
place-
and
that's
really-
you
know
at
the
end
of
the
day
region
Network
are
aimed
as
a
disintermediate,
disintermediated
and
peer-to-peer
Marketplace
connected
to
a
registry
system
for
these
real-world
ecological
assets
to
be
created
to
be
monitored,
reported,
verified
and
minted.
A
I
would
say
that
when
I
joined
web3
like
there's,
this
quote
about
the
economy
and
the
stock
market
and
like
I
I,
can't
remember
who
said
it,
but
he's
like
the
the
economy
is
like
this
guy
walking
a
dog
in
the
park
and
the
dog
is
like
the
stock
market
and
like
the
dog,
can
run
way
ahead
and,
like
you
know,
do
all
kinds
of
stuff.
A
But
ultimately
the
stock
market
is
attached
to
the
economy
and,
like
the
dog
can
run
all
over
the
place,
but
it
can
never
escape
this
like
leash
it's
on
and
it
felt
like
the
whole
web
3
space
like
it
was
like
that
dog
that
ran
as
like
far
as
humanly
possible,
and
then
it
just
got
yanked
back
over
the
last
year
and
a
lot
of
people
are
are
sitting
like
the
core
deliverable
of
web3.
Like
the
promise.
A
When
you
look
at
it
is
in
theory,
it
allows,
you
know,
obviously
instant
scalable,
free
transactions
and
and
money
that
is
as
free
as
email
and
speech
in
many
ways
and
in
theory,
the
value
proposition
of
web
3
to
something
like
the
carbon
Market
or
these
other
markets
is
that
it
allows
Federation
and
defragmentation
of
those
markets,
and
it
allows
freeing
up
what's
called
a
liquid
asset
like
so
carbon
from
over
there
and
carbon
from
over
there.
That
are
all
on
different
standards.
A
They
can't
be
traded
readily,
whereas
like
with
web3
you're
able
to
do
that.
So
it
seems
like
right
now,
starting
2023
that
the
dog
has
been
yanked
back
after
you
know,
having
a
good
time,
and
now
it's
come
back
to
this
real
world
assets
topic
which
is
like
okay.
A
So
what
do
you
think
is
the
going
to
be
the
main
theme
of
2023
like
like
it
seems
like
a
lot
of
the
infrastructure
went
into
place
last
year
and
you
said
like
something
big
is
coming
like.
What
do
you
think
is
gonna?
What's
the
state
of
the
market
gonna
be
at
the
end
of
2023.
B
B
Answer,
that's
disconnected
from
the
larger
macroeconomic
reality
and
as
far
as
I
can
tell
it's
going
to
be
a
tough
year
and
I,
you
know,
I,
don't
hear
anybody
saying!
Oh
yeah,
you
know
by
July,
everything's
gonna
be
fine.
You
know,
I
think
most
people
are
thinking
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
year
18
months
or
two
years
in
a
recession
cycle.
B
B
So
I
think
what
we're
seeing
is
that
there
we're
just
getting
started,
we're
just
getting
started
in
a
climate
and
natural
Capital
boom
cycle
right,
and
so
that's
not
gonna.
You
know,
so
it's
not
going
to
sort
of
like
accelerate
into
a
hockey
stick,
while
the
rest
of
the
macroeconomic
conditions
are
are
what
they
are.
B
You
know
moving
forward
through
2023
in
this
specific
sort
of
sector,
but
I
think
we
also
need
to
just
understand
that.
It's
you
know,
macroeconomic
conditions
are
we
had
a
big
overshoot,
we
had
covid,
we
had
we
printed
a
bunch
of
money.
We've
got
a
war
in
Europe,
there's
all
sorts
of
different
levels
of
uncertainty
and
challenges,
and
people
are
pretty
spooked
and
sort
of
you
know
retracting
and
there's
a
you
know.
Essentially
what
looks
to
be
a
recession
and
I'm,
not
an
economist.
So
that's
not.
C
B
To
be
Financial
advice,
that's
just
my
sense
of
things:
I'm
not
expecting
some
sort
of
like
big
Rosy
crypto
comeback
in
the
spring,
or
something
like
that.
B
You
know
my
guess
is
this:
is
you
know
it's
gonna
be
a
long
haul
and
then
you
know,
and
then
things
will
start
to
move
and
the
crypto
markets
will
continue
to
move
I,
don't
think
anything
really
changes
as
far
as
you
know,
the
the
commitment
to
this
type
of
digital
infrastructure
that
we're
talking
about
web3
digital
infrastructure,
you
know-
is
deep
and
across
the
board
and
there
are
institutions
and
there's
sort
of
like
the
birth
of
the
crypto
native
and
web3
Native
institutions.
B
A
It
seems
like,
in
particular
at
least
looking
at
the
gaming
market
like
I,
went
to
Gamescom
in
Germany
and
I
went
there,
assuming
that
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
web
3
topics,
but
the
reality
was
it's
like
a
600
000
person
event,
and
maybe
one
in
50
of
the
booth
projects
were
web
3
related,
it
was
very,
very
low
penetration
and
when
I
walked
around
I
walked
out
of
there
and
I
was
like
okay,
these
game
developers.
You
know
I'll
equate
this
to
refine
a
second.
A
They
don't
really
want
to
care
about
how
stuff
is
working
on
the
back
end.
They
just
want
to
make
a
game
and
they
want
payments
to
be
degraded.
So
my
conclusion
was
that
what's
going
to
happen,
is
that
the
the
payments
providers
that
they're
using
the
The
Tipping
Point
will
be
when
those
game
developers
are
able
to
just
switch
back
and
forth
to
crypto
through
those
payment
gateways,
and
then
that
will
tip
over
the
whole
market.
A
So
it
was
like
well
if
I'm
going
to
focus
my
energy,
you
know
it'll
be
on
like
the
the
the
highest
leverage
point
in
the
market
and
then
the
refi
space
I
think
maybe
it's
those
carbon
Registries
and
like
it
seems
last
year
that
Vera
and
gold
standard,
like
maybe
they
were
initially
shocked
by
the
the
tokenization
of
what
they're
doing,
but
now
it
seems
like
they
like.
How
would
you
characterize
it?
Are
they
are
they
going
with
it?
Are
they
are
they
gonna
grab
onto
it?
B
B
I
think
they're
going
to
be
thorough
and
slow
to
adopt
this
technology
and
they're
going
to
ensure
that
it
meets
their
specific
standard,
institutional
and
Community
standards
and
needs
and
I
think
there
are
some
ways
that
that
is
going
to
run
counter
to
the
expectations
of
like
endless
liquidity
and
market
efficiency
that
that
some
of
the
people
in
the
web
3
space
have
I
would
guess
that
gold
standard
may
move
a
little
quicker
around
Pilots
to
tokenize
carbon
and
and
play
around
with
things,
and
probably
other
registries
as
well.
B
I
mean
like
City
forest
registry
worked
with
us
to
tokenize
their
credits.
The
the
biocarbon
registry
is
working
with
solo
to
tokenize
their
biochar
credits,
so
you
already
see
sort
of
smaller,
more
agile,
Registries,
making
experiments
and
I
think
the
bigger
ones
will
be
looking
at
that
and
deciding
how
they're
going
to
engage
and
also
participating
in
these
working
groups
and
engaging
in
that
way.
I
know:
we've
had
some
very
productive
conversations
with
Vera
and
gold
standard,
and
you
know
I
think
you
know
I
think
their
reasons
for
moving
slow
are
understandable.
B
If
you
know,
if
sometimes
frustrating
right
so
yeah
I,
don't
know,
that's
I
I,
don't
think
that
there's
going
to
be
a
big
sort
of
like
sea
change
or
shift
and
that
all
of
a
sudden
there's
going
to
be
an
Embrace,
especially
just
to
be
honest,
even
after
FTX
happened,
even
though
that
has
really
very
little
to
do
with
web3.
That
was
just
like
a
classical.
It
seems
to
be
that
that
was
just
a
classical
example
of
fraud.
C
I
think
that
there
is
a
little
bit
of
a
shift
that
has
happened,
though,
in
the
light
of
this
that
is
actually
really
positive,
because
I
feel
like
this.
This
conversation
went
very
like.
Oh,
no
is
anyone
gonna
take
web3
seriously,
but
one
of
the
things
that
happened
really
in
assisting
fashion
and
felt
very
real.
This
fall
is
that
I
think
a
lot
of
the
different
climate.
Refi
projects
have
been
woven
together
throughout
the
past
year.
C
You
know,
since
the
launch
of
Prima
Dao
lots
of
people
came
to
read
by
Summit
there's
groups
of
people
that
came
to
the
the
greenhouse
retreat
in
Columbia
and
where
I
do
think
that
we
are
much
much
stronger
as
an
industry
of
blockchain
technology
for
climate
Solutions
is
that
we
know
each
other
we're
working
together
in
working
groups
across
the
industry.
That
work
is
very
tactile
and
real
and
legitimate.
It's
about
standards
and
data
structure
and
the
more
of
this
type
of
you
know
connected
deep
thinking,
work.
We
do
across
industry.
C
You
know
cross
protocol
cross
project
cross-depth,
the
more
all
of
our
work
in
the
digital
tokenized,
carbon
and
ecological
asset
space
becomes
connected.
So
I
think
that
in
2023
we're
going
to
see
really
intelligent
work
done
by
our
collective
in
these
working
groups,
as
well
as
I.
Think
that
we're
going
to
start
to
see
more
more
bridging
mechanisms
to
be
able
to
to
move
carbon
and
ecological
assets
from
where
it's
sort
of
stuck
in
one
ecosystem
and
can't
get
to
another
ecosystem.
C
How
you
know
how
effective
that
carbon
accounting
on
the
blockchain
can
be
when
all
the
different
pieces
of
it
written
in
all
the
different
codes,
are
able
to
talk
to
each
other
and
create
one
connected
system
of
technology?
That
is
ultimately
has
to
be
and
will
be
because
of
how
strong
blockchain
technology
is
it's
going
to
be
a
lot
more
effective
and
transparent
connected
system
than
any
of
the
information
from
Registries
that
are
off
chain.
C
A
One
of
the
terms
I'm
hearing
more
and
more-
and
this
is
not
a
new
term-
and
you
know
web
3-
wasn't
a
new
term
either
was
fediverse
and
part
of
this
is
coming
because
you
know
Twitter
is
God
knows
what
is
happening
with
Twitter.
But
Mastodon
is
you
know
a
fediverse
kind
of
project.
It's
like
I'm
I'm,
seeing
this
term
being
used
more
and
more
as
like,
almost
like
a
replacement
for
decentralized,
so
this
kind
of,
like
Federated,
set
of
projects
that
talk
to
each
other
via
protocols.
A
Is
this
something
you're
hearing
more
of,
or
is
that
ring
any
bells
for
you
with
this
kind
of
idea?.
C
And
these
are
really
technical
questions,
they're,
really
scientific,
like
environmental
science,
questions
as
well
as
engineering
questions,
and
they
take
a
lot
of
time
to
answer
so
I
think
that
there
are
federations
forming,
maybe
I,
just
haven't
heard
that
word
being
used.
Have
you
heard
that
word
Gregory.
C
B
You
know
we
live
in
a
federal
government.
After
all,
with
you
know,
those
of
us
who
are
in
the
United
States,
the
European
Union,
is
a
has
a
federal
system.
There
there's
a
lot
of
precedent
for
how
you
bring
together
entities
while
maintaining
certain
levels
of
sovereignty
or
autonomy,
but
also
create
standards
like
in
the
European
Union.
B
They
have
the
same
money
and
they
have
National
governance,
but
also
there
are
certain
agreements
that
that
they
have
in
common
right:
economic
agreements,
trade
agreements,
passage
of
people
back
and
forth,
and
I
think
you
know,
I
think
the
vision,
the
cosmos
vision
for
sort
of
sovereign,
but
intraoperable
State
machines
allows
people
to
Federate
to
Confederate
or
to
remain
completely
neutral
and
I.
B
Think,
depending
on
economic
situations
and
political
situations,
you
are
going
to
see
a
lot
more
Federation
taking
place
and
I
think
carbon
markets,
for
instance,
you
know
like
in
reach
just
talk
about
region,
Network
architecture
so
and
there's
in
there's
nested
layers
of
this
and
there's
different
scales
that
this
kind
of
pattern
can
take
place.
B
But
so
just
thinking
of
the
first
scale,
we've
been
experimenting
with
our
own
registry
service
and
system,
and
what
a
registry
system
is
in
carbon
markets
is
a
quality
assurance
system
whereby,
in
order
to
create
a
real
world
asset,
the
purchase,
the
purchaser
of
that
real
world
asset
understands
that
there's
been
a
process
that
has
been
gone
through
in
our
case.
There's
an
internal
review.
There's
an
external
audit
there's
a
peer
review
process.
B
There's
all
these
checks
and
then
Bing
token
gets
minted
right
and
we're
sort
of
like
working
on
automating
that
and
building
the
appropriate
technological,
augmentation
and
processes.
But
at
the
end
of
the
day,
there's
a
community.
There
are
people
and
they're
checking
all
the
boxes,
dotting
the
eyes
crossing
the
t's
and
making
sure
that
that
carbon
credit
represents
the
carbon
that
it
claims.
B
But
that's
only
one
registry
there's
also,
as
we
mentioned
earlier,
there's
Vera
there's
gold
standard.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
we
as
a
as
a
ecosystem
as
a
community
as
an
industry.
We
need
to
have
standards
now
on
regen
Ledger.
It
would
be
completely
possible
for
vera,
for
instance,
to
spin
up
and
own
and
govern
its
own
registry
side
by
side
with
region
registry.
On
the
same
infrastructure,
it
would
also
be
possible
for
them
to
Fork
region
Ledger
and
run
their
own
sovereign
blockchain
and
in
either
case
those
are
degrees
of
Federation.
B
In
one
case,
we
would
share
the
same
security
right
and
we'd
share
the
same
code
base,
but
we
would
be
governing
different
crediting
standards
right
and
in
the
other
case,
you
would
have
you'd,
be
sharing
the
same
sort
of
you'd
be
sharing
some
of
the
open
source
code,
but
you
wouldn't
be
sharing
the
same
security
and
you'd
be
governing
your
own
system
and
which
of
those
makes.
The
most
sense
is
really
a
political
question
and
it
is
an
economic
question:
how
much
does
it
cost
to
run
the
state
machine
or
the
blockchain?
B
How
much
security
can
it
give?
Is
it
better
to
have
multiple
different
providers
on
the
same
system,
or
is
it
better
to
have
different
systems
that
interoperate
honestly,
we
don't
have
the
answers
to
all
of
these
questions,
we're
going
to
see
over
time
the
economy.
You
know
the
this
industry
is
going
to
evolve
and
it's
going
to
shake
loose
and
there's
going
to
be
processes
in
times
like
these
of
economic
disruption
and
recession.
A
So
what
well
I
think
like
in
the
broader,
like
super
zoom
out
context
like
like
basic
the
basics
of
what
is
happening
now,
is
that
we
have
all
this
digital
technology.
The
digital
technology
allows
unprecedented
transparency
so
that
we
get
a
look
inside
of
many
of
the
institutions
that
used
to
be
opaque.
Like
a
black
box
like
what's
going
on
the
inside
of
Twitter,
you
know
between
what's
the
Twitter's
interaction
between
the
government,
I
don't
know,
but
now
with
with
all
these
tools,
it's
like.
We
know
it's
like
we
know
about.
A
You
know
all
these
intrigues
that
used
to
be
hidden
and
this
information
just
keeps
coming
out
and
the
net
result
is.
It
constantly
erodes
trust
in
almost
every
former
Institution
and
web3,
and
these
Technologies
and
the
Federated
approaches
coming
into
this
and
and
like
I
I
think,
despite
through
the
last
year,
it
seems
like
the
the
core
thesis
of
Cosmos
is
quite
strong.
You
know,
like
maybe,
there's
fewer
projects
or
whatever,
but
it's
able
to
take
a
beating,
because
you
know
like
some
of
these
hyper
centralized
chains
once
their
token
price
Dives.
A
You
know
people
have
less
incentive
to
ever
return
wherever
building
those
chains
ever
again,
because
if
I
was
a
developer,
I
had
some
hit
app
and
it
just
went
to
zero.
Then,
like
I'm
gonna,
go
find
a
new
chain
rather
than
try
and
rebuild
on,
like
whatever
just
died,
so
I
think
from
the
web.
2
era
like
open
source
as
a
as
a
trend
was
the
effort
to
like
consolidate
all
this
work
like
everybody
works
together
shares
resources
has
a
common
open
source
language.
A
So
now
we're
seeing
I
think
like
web3
decentralization,
is
causing
the
open
sourcing
of
Institutions
themselves
in
a
way
whereas,
like,
as
you
said,
the
registry
like
before
that
was
some
like
web
2.
You
know
globalist
whatever
you
know
makeup
whatever
right-wing
conspiracy
theory
you
want,
but
now
it's
like
well,
those
are
all
going
to
be
hyper.
Open
people
aren't
going
to
be
trust,
anything
that
has
even
a
little
bit
of
lack
of
transparency.
A
So
now
the
whole
ecosystem
is
going
to
like
hyper
transparent
systems
and
from
the
web
2
era.
The
big
winner
was
kind
of
like
the
Linux
Foundation,
like
they
figured
out
this
model
where
they
have
like
the
head
office,
which
just
gets
money
in
it's
like
hey,
Microsoft,
gun
sponsor
us
Intel
come
sponsor
us
and
then
they
just
create
this
massive
cluster
of
thousands
and
thousands
of
projects,
and
then
they
took
the
sponsorship
money
and
then
they
used
it
to
fund
all
these
projects
so
with
web3.
A
This
is
like
that
Linux
Foundation
institution
is
changing
into
something
else
and
like
that,
that's
like
what
regen
network
is
doing
with
IBC.
You
know,
like
all
these
kinds
of
things,
it
seems
like
that's,
that's
the
direction.
Things
are
heading
and
it's
it's
so
exotic
I,
don't
even
think
there's
words
for
it
like
fediverse
is
the
only
thing
I
could
think
of
decentralized,
so
anyways.
B
Fediverse
is
good
and
I
think
you're
hitting
the
nail
on
the
head.
That
I
mean
we
consider
what
we're
doing
at
Region
Network
to
be
building
a
new
institution
type
I
mean
I.
Think
our
you
know
different
people.
It's
like
you
know,
there's
that
old.
There's
that
old,
I
think
maybe
Indian
or
like
Hindu
matter
metaphor,
where
there's
all
of
these
blind
monks
standing
on
an
elephant
and
they're
all
you
know
one
holds
the
the
lag
and
they're
like.
B
B
Natural
Capital
markets,
that
is
to
say,
bringing
Market
mechanisms
to
repair,
restore
and
conserve
Earth,
which
is
our
which
is
our
domain
and
our
problem
statement.
What
we
care
about
when
we,
we
see
Market
mechanisms
being
trialled
and
thought
of
and
experimented
with
towards
those
ends,
and
we
believe
that,
if
that's
going
to
succeed,
there
actually
needs
to
be
a
new
and
novel
institution
type
and
that
new
and
novel
institution
type
wasn't
possible
before
the
Advent
of
web3,
because
it
it
needs
to
be
augmented
by
computational
capability
by
transparency
and
by
open
governance.
B
Because
it's
this
it's
a
challenging
coordination
issue
with
multiple
stakeholders
who
don't
trust
each
other
yet
need
to
manage
complex
things
together,
right
and
blockchain,
and
having
a
common
Ledger
of
record
and
and
assuming
some
amount
of
adversarial
relationship
between
counterparties
and
creating,
like
a
digital
version
of
the
checks
and
balances
that
a
constitutional
government
like
the
United
States
has,
but
reinvented
in
a
digital
era
in
a
slightly
different
format,
is
like
that's,
what's
happening,
that's
what
to
me!
That's
what
the
entire
crypto
movement
really
is.
B
A
What's
good
like
it
must
be
frustrating
to
like,
like
you
know
this,
maybe
a
lot
of
these
projects
are
well
meeting,
but
maybe
they
don't
have
like
the
depth
in
certain
areas
that
you
know
they
lack
the
knowledge
like.
How
do
you
navigate
those
frustrations
will
be.
B
Like
very
frustrating
I,
don't
I
don't
have
a
clean
I,
don't
have
a
clean
answer
for
you,
Rex
honestly,
it's
just
very
frustrating,
there's
so
much
static
and
they're.
So
little
ability
for
people
to
discern
between
you
know
and
and
I
was
sort
of
cringing,
as
you
were
talking
about
you're
sort
of
painting
the
picture
of
the
collapse
of
our
faith
and
institutions
driven
by
an
increase
of
information,
but
I
mean
so
I'll
say
two
things.
B
One
is
there's
this
great
Terence,
McKenna
quote,
which
is
as
the
surface
area
of
the
sphere
of
our
knowledge
increases.
No
sorry
is
the
volume
of
our
knowledge
increases.
So
too
does
the
surface
area
of
our
ignorance.
A
B
That's
why
we've
been
doing
experimentation
with
active
inferencing
and
different
AI
models
and
things
you
know,
algorithms,
you
know
data.
How
do
you
check
and
communicate
with
someone
and
then
double
check
that
and
say
Yes?
It
checked
out
in
this
kind
of
Federated
sense
making
and
ultimately
that's
what
region
network
is
it's
a
Federated
sense
making
system
around
ecological
health
and
claims
that
are
being
made
for
that
in
the
short
term?
How
do
you,
you
know,
avoid
the
hype
or
the
static
and
just
the
confusion
that
the
space
has
refi
crypto
carbon
markets
in
general?
B
Biodiversity?
Is
that
the
biodiversity?
You
know
conference
in
Montreal
and
it's
crazy,
like
people
are
like
it's
like
a
gold
rush,
biodiversity,
it's
scary
really,
because
ultimately
people
are
going
to
do
bad
things
and
that
kind
of
like
confusion
and
complexity,
both
breeds
potential
and
it
breeds
you
know,
potential
for
negative
behavior.
So
I,
don't
know,
I
mean
I,
don't
have
a
super,
just
sort
of
like
down
pat
answer
to
that.
It's
the
big
problem
that
we
face
as
a
as
a
community
and
as
a
as
a
company
for
sure.
A
So
over
the
last
couple
weeks
like
what
I
had
off
I
I
had
to
think
really
carefully
about
what
I
think
comes
next
and
my
background's,
all
in
Silicon
and
iot,
and
like
one
of
the
things
we
did
struggle
with
in
the
Silicon
space
is
like
I
worked
at
arm
and
we
had
a
major
open
source
competitor
that
had
you
know
their
up
and
coming,
but
like
the
one
of
the
struggles
we
had
to
arm
is
like
how
to
tell
our
story
without
like
like
pointing
out
the
flaws
in
our
competition
and
like
I,
think,
ultimately,
we
just
didn't
like
like.
A
A
That's
that's
all
you
need
to
know
and
like,
unlike
others,
you
know,
here's
some
things
to
think
about,
but
we're
not
gonna
like
anyways,
so
bringing
my
silicon
industry
hat
on
I
I
just
asked
myself
the
question
like
what's
going
to
happen
next
and
I
I
came
up
with
a
scenario,
because
one
of
the
things
that
arm
did
was
invest
a
lot
in
sustainability
and
early
forms
of
it.
A
So
this
nft
that
contains
all
this
information
about
the
Raspberry
Pi,
that's
what
I
buy
and
when
I
get
the
Raspberry,
Pi
and
eventually
I,
try
and
return
it
and
I
might
even
get
paid
for
returning
it.
So,
with
this
push
towards
these
Central
Bank
digital
currencies,
like
a
big
reason
for
that,
as
the
government
wants
total
visibility
to
everything
that
goes
on
in
the
economy.
A
I
I
started
thinking
about
it.
I
was
like
if
the
government's
trying
to
do
cbdc's,
which
is
obviously
probably
unpopular
in
many
corners
of
flip
three
they're
gonna,
have
to
do
this
modeling
of
like
an
nft
or
something
like
it
of
like
where
it
was,
and
how
what's
the
carbon
footprint
and
the
environmental
footprint
of
that,
because,
if
I
buy
something
an
object
with
the
nft
with
the
cbdc
I
also
want
to
know
all
about
that
object
and,
as
you
were
talking
about,
you
know
the
biodiversity
credits
and
all
these
things.
A
I'm,
like
man,
like
I,
I,
think
from
the
iot
space.
We
had
this
concept
of
the
digital
twin,
but
this
digital
twin
is
going
to
come
forward.
Somehow
and,
like
you
know,
you're
doing
these
Registries
and
that's
kind
of
like
you're.
Making
a
digital
twin
of
these
natural
resources
is
like
what
what's
at
the
base
of
it.
C
C
Real
trees,
real
Rivers,
real
forests,
real
pieces
of
the
ocean
and
every
standard
has
real
science
behind
it
that
you
have
to
follow,
and
then
what
arises
onto
the
blockchain
is
that
scientific
data
and
structured
and
unstructured
forms
that
moves
with
those
assets
permanently.
So
we're
building.
You
know
beyond
the
blockchain
governance
and
the
like
custom
technology
is
we're
building
a
community
of
Standards
governance
and
where
Gregory
was
talking
about,
you
know,
you're
talking
about
fediverse,
our
system
of
credit
classes
of
ecological
standards
is
designed
itself
as
a
set
of
verse.
C
You
can
have
regen
Network
standards,
you
can
have
Vera
standards,
but
within
the
world
of
regen
Network
standards,
only
one
standard
was
ever
produced
by
regen
Network
development,
Incorporated,
carbon
plus
grassland.
Every
other
standard
that's
coming
down.
The
pipeline
is
actually
being
developed
by
a
third
party
using
those
processes
and
tools.
So
the
region
registry
is
itself
a
fetiverse
within
a
system
of
federal
versing.
So
it's
a
little
bit
multi-dimensional
and
it
comes
down
to
the
belief
that
communities
of
scientific
practice
and
land
stewardship
that
they
know
at
an
ecologically
like
a
scientific
level.
C
What
is
the
most
appropriate
way
to
manage
land
to
Wonderland,
to
quantify
that
and
what
data
needs
to
be
presented
in
order
to
say
this?
Carbon
credit,
this
biodiversity?
Try
to
this
biochar
credit,
whatever
that
Land
Management
or
ocean
management
activity
is
it's
based
on
real
information,
real
science
and
to
me
what
we
do
is
so
very,
very
different
than
what
refi
does
at
large
refried
as
liquidity
pools.
It
does
Ford
contract
pools.
C
It
does
like
a
tax
Digital
Credit
to
my
app
for
something
else:
cool
we
do
real
native
credit
origination,
partnering
with
land
stewards
that
are
planting
trees
and
building
farms
and
restoring
Rivers,
because
we're
ecologists
that
have
coupled
up
our
Spirits
with
our
technologists
and
have
built
a
system
that
allows
for
those
assets
to
be
created
and
governed,
and
to
give
you
some
real
world
examples
here,
because
I
have
sort
of
like
the
what's
coming
up
in
front
of
me.
You
know
we
have
caution
carbon
trust
in
the
state
of
Washington.
C
That's
doing
a
buyer
chart
methodology
developed
from
scratch,
biochar
Pilots
they're,
going
to
be
issuing
1500
carbon
credits
from
a
standard
that
never
existed
before.
You
know
in
March
it
says
here
we
have
a
group
in
Argentina,
doing
holistically,
managed
cattle
grazing,
really
actual
cattle
being
graced
crust
actual
land
in
Argentina.
That
created
a
new
standard
that
fits
their
use
case
and
they're
issuing
70
000
carbon
credits
in
the
new
year.
C
There's
dozens
and
dozens
of
these
examples
of
agroforestry
of
biochar,
of
riparian
buffer
restoration,
where
this
is
ecology
and
what
we're
doing
is
we're
creating
standards
and
a
community
of
scientists
and
practitioners
that
govern
those
standards
and
a
technical
process
that
tracks
that
standard
creation
that
asset
creation
and
the
data
associated
with
that
asset
on
the
blockchain.
So
it's
just
it's
a
very
different.
It's
like
we're
building
a
community
by
building
the
Technical
Systems
to
support
living
systems,
but
our
living
system
is
really
science
and
the
governance
of
humans,
engaging
with
science
and
land
together.
C
So
it's
a
very
complex
Beast
that
it's
just
it
gives
me
a
lot
of
Hope
because
at
scale
it
really
could
be.
This
fully
transparent,
shared
governance
system
of
ecological
standards
and
moving
money
into
standards
requires
the
ability
to
say
this
is
real.
It's
happening
in
a
real
place
and
a
you
know
real
spot
on
the
world
with
real
people
that
took
real
action
and
Quantified
it
and
we're
sure
we're
sure
that
this
thing
happened.
We're
sure
that
regeneration
is
happening
in
this
particular
place.
A
So
this
reminds
me
of
the
the
progress
of
the
Silicon
industry
where
initially
started
with
Intel
and
they're
like
we
fabricate
the
silicon
and
we
design
it
and
then
AMD
came
along
and
they
found
a
new
model
or
you
know
others
came
along
and
they
said
well,
we
used
to
have
The
Foundry,
but
what?
If
we
get
rid
of
that
and
let
somebody
else
do
The
Foundry
and
we
just
designed
stuff
and
then
somebody
else
does
The
Foundry
an
arm
came
along
and
they
said
we
just
designed
stuff,
no
Foundry
whatsoever.
A
You
know
like
you
license
it
and
customize
it,
and
then
you
act.
You
know,
then
so
and
then
finally,
the
ultimate
culmination
is
risk
five,
where
they
literally
just
open
source
the
instruction
set
and
it's
all
standards
and
there's
everything
else
is
outsourced.
So
what
you
just
said
reminds
me
of
that,
and
it
kind
of
reminds
me
also
of
like
open
source
where,
like
there's
so
much
effort
put
into
the
licenses
that
are
used
in
open
source.
A
A
If
there
might
be
a
new
business
model,
where
you
license
your
standards
and
those
you
get
paid
out
based
on
the
number
of
assets
issued
a
tiny
fraction,
so
one
of
the
reasons
that
nobody's
been
able
to
compete
with
arm
is
because
the
chips
are
so
cheap
and
arm
under
charges.
Armed
charges
less
than
they
need
to.
So,
if
you
buy
a
five
dollar
chip,
then
like
a
10
cents
or
a
penny
or
something
goes
to
arm,
is
something
really
small.
A
But
if
you
sell
100
million
of
them,
then
it
adds
up
so
with
regen.
If,
if
like
you're
able
to
take
the
equivalent
of
your
open
source
standards
and
then
license
them
using
blockchain
and
that
kind
of
thing
I
mean
that
could
be
a
quite
interesting
business
model
and
and
it
would,
it
would
follow
this,
like
you
put
regen
on
the
the
tail
end
of
the
tangibility
curve.
A
It's
like
this
I
I,
don't
know
it's
imaginary
thing
of
like
from
tangible
to
intangible,
so
it
sounds
like
regen
is,
is
trying
to
be
on
the
farthest
end
of
intangibility
as
possible,
and
that
has
the
highest
leverage
Downstream,
because
everybody
trickles
down
from
from
those
chip,
designs
or
policies
that
you
know
you
come
up
with.
So
just
a
just
an
idea:
I
gotta
jump
off,
but
but
thanks
a
lot
and
think
about
that.
Refi
Summit
is
coming
back.
A
So
I'm
gonna
share
this
recording
on
the
the
refi
Summit
sub
stack
and
thanks
a
lot
I
I
gotta
jump
really
fun.
Every
time.
Awesome
ciao.