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From YouTube: Regen Ledger v2.0 Community Call
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Regen Network community discussion to explore Signalling Proposal #4 - Regen Ledger v2.0. Details at: https://forum.regen.network/t/proposal-4-signalling-proposal-permissioned-credit-class-designers-and-regen-ledger-v2-0-upgrade/251
A
A
A
We
do
have
a
at
least
one
spanish
speaker
on
the
call
and
want
to
be
respectful
of
making
sure
we
create
space
and
time
for
translation
to
occur
so
patrick,
if
you
could
help
guide
us
as
needed
there.
That
would
be
helpful
and
other
than
that.
I
just
want
to
be
remind
you
that
the
call
is
being
recorded
and
we'll
make
this
available
as
a
community
resource
as
well.
A
A
B
Muted
gregory,
it
sounds
great,
I
don't
really
have
any
anything
to
add.
I
would
love
to
just
start
with
it.
It'd
be
great
to
start
with
patrick
and
hewn,
really,
mostly
on,
like
the
logistics
side,
to
start
just
like
how-
and
maybe
you
guys
have
already
planned
this,
but
what
does
it
look
like
for
us
to
be
going
slow
enough
and
how
are
what's
the
plan
for
translation
and
just
sort
of
engagement
there
so
that
we
can
incorporate
that
into
how
we're
you
know
communicating.
C
D
Another
option
I
I
feel
like
there
should
be
in
the
future
if
this
is
something
that
we're
trying
to
do
like,
we
can
have
a
dedicated
translator
right
and
actually
have
two
audio
channels
going
like.
That
would
be
the
proper
way
to
do
that
and
then
it
would
also
be
like
we
could
have
multiple
spanish
speakers
who
aren't
necessarily.
A
C
A
A
That's
worth
kind
of
helping
organize
kind
of
where
we're
at
now,
and
what's
next
with
the
governance
proposals
and
what
the
what
you
know
anything
unique
about
the
regen
ledger
that
may
not
be
this
group
may
not
be
aware
of,
and
you
know
that
could
be
a
way
of
doing
it
or
we
can
just
jump
patrick
and
hewn
right
into
some
of
the
issues
that
you've
raised.
I'm
fine
with
either
way
whatever's
easiest
to
organize
a
conversation.
D
I
think
I
think
the
second
approach
might
be
might
be
better.
There's
I
feel
like
there's
like
the
signaling
proposal.
I
think,
does
a
good
job
at
outlining
like
what's
like
what
we're
doing
with
2.0
and
what
the
current
like
like
thinking
is
from
rnd's
like
proposal
perspective
and
I'm
here
to
help
like
clarify
any
of
the
questions
around
like
what
is
the
way
that
we've
architected
the
data
model
on
chain,
like
differentiation
between
credit
type
and
credit
class
and
then
and
to
help
navigate
some
of
those
conversations.
D
C
C
C
C
C
There's
both
the
logistical
side
of
how
would
a
community's
thinking
that
would
be
run,
sort
of
technically
and
logistically
and
the
details
of
of
that
process
with
regen
foundation,
and
then
there's
also
the
question
of
what
is
regen
network.
How
does
it
work?
Who
is
it
for
so
that
people
can
form
and
can
can
create
an
informed
opinion
about
governance
decisions
on
the
network.
C
E
Thanks
for
the
context,
I
think,
for
a
community
conversation,
what's
usually
helpful
is
is
as
we
speak
and
especially
as
we
as
we
are
bringing
the
topic
up.
Usually
it's
like
I.
This
is
a
indian
folk
tale,
but
I
don't
know
if
you
all
have
it
when
there's
an
elephant
in
the
room,
and
there
are
six
blind
man
and
each
one
of
them
touches
it
at
different
parts.
E
So
one
guy
says
it's
it's
long
and
bushy
like
the
elephant
tail,
the
other
one
says
it's:
it's
flappy
like
the
elephant
ear
and
each
of
it
is
different.
So
I
think
it's
it's
it's
helpful
for
each
of
us
to
say
where
we
come
from
and
which
part
of
the
elephant
we're
looking
at
kind
of
right.
So
so,
with
that
context
I
mean
perhaps
patrick
and
hugh.
E
You
could
talk
about
specifically
the
the
indigenous
community
you're
coming
from
and
the
context
of
the
existing
services
and
so
on,
or
the
systems
that
you
are
familiar
with,
which
have
not
worked
and
what
and
why
that
matters
for
you
in
terms
of
governance
which
have
worked
and
which
have
not
worked.
What
and
and
what
that
means
in
terms
of
governance
for
you,
and
why
this
specific
signaling
proposal,
how
that
fits
into
the
context
right?
E
C
C
C
So
there
are
communities
where,
for
example,
over
the
period
of
time,
they've
been
involved
in
sociobosca
they've,
gotten
10
million
dollars,
but
people
on
the
ground
haven't
actually
seen
that
money,
so
they
say.
Well,
we
don't
want
this
agreement.
We
want
to
get
out,
and
so
the
government
says
great,
we'll
pay
us
back.
10
million
dollars
and
the
community
says:
we've
never
seen
that
10
million
dollars.
C
C
And
it's
it's
working
out
for
them,
even
though
there's
not
much
explanation
of
how
it
works.
It's
sort
of
here's
the
contract
sign
it
if
you
want
to,
and
if
you
don't,
then
don't
on
a
larger
scale
at
meetings
between
indigenous
nations.
So
he
so
hun
is
from
the
ashford
nation
of
ecuador,
and
I
by
marriage
am
now
related
to
that
and
by
but
before
we
were
together.
C
So
I'm
familiar
with
the
sort
of
living
in
the
disaster
in
the
sacrifice
zones
of
fossil
fuels,
and
when
we
hear
proposals
saying
okay,
so
carbon
credits
are
going
to
be
great
because
they're
going
to
slow
down
climate
change.
But
when
we
look
at
the
logistics
of
that-
and
the
result
is
that
the
extraction
companies
just
keep
doing
what
they're
doing,
but
they
pay
some
money
to.
For
example,
the
edge
of
our
nation
could
could
sign
up
for
something.
C
There
are
communities
that
are
involved
in
sociobosque
within
the
atro
nation
when,
when
a
community
signs
up
here
and
the
sort
of
the
deal
is
great,
we're
going
to
pay
you
so
to
protect
your
forests.
But
it's
not
clear
that
who's
paying
them
is
companies
that
are
just
keep
destroying
other
indigenous
lands.
C
C
Actually,
stopping
extraction
and
stopping
polluting
industries
and,
at
the
same
time,
developing
real
living
local
economies.
So
in
detail
with
with
the
eco
credits,
module,
for
example,
the
red
plus
is
one
of
the
accepted
methodologies.
That's
listed
on
the
region.
Network
website
and
red
plus
has
been
widely
criticized
for
expanding
colonialism
of
indigenous
lands,
and
so
there's
that
and
then
there's
other
technical
details
like
okay,
so
we're
gonna
set
up
community
staking
dow
and
how
is
that
really
gonna
work?
There's
the
locked,
the
the
permanently
locked
accounts.
C
But
what
happens
if
something
goes
wrong
and
there's
a
question
of
so
the
community
staking
governance
model.
At
what
point
does
that
kick
in
to
to
govern
regen
network
like
the
there
are
governance
decisions
being
made
already,
and
regen
network
has
already
been
around
for
years
in
development,
but
only
now
is
the
community
staking
governance
model
starting
to
be
put
into
action.
C
So
it's
basically
regen
network
is
going
to
get
built
and
deployed
and
be
functioning,
and
then
people
are
going
to
be
brought
on
board
to
say.
Okay
here
it
is,
you
can
join
in
the
governance
decisions
now
that
we've
already
made
them.
So
I
realized
this.
Is
this?
May
yeah
I'm
curious
to
hear
other
people's
perspectives
and.
C
E
Sure
so
hello,
I'm
I'm
bravity.
I
also
go
by
ray
and
in
this
call,
I'm
wearing
the
head
of
the
executive
director
of
the
region
foundation
and
the
foundations
towards
the
community
taking
down
program,
which
is
also
the
endowment
program.
The
program
is
specifically
to
include
part
of
the
goal
is
to
include
natural
entities
and
indigenous
communities
without
include
the
governance
of
the
ecological
blockchain.
E
I
am
also
very
conscious
of
varying
looking
at
it
through
the
lens
of
a
technologist,
because
that
is
also
who
I
am,
and
I
was
born
and
brought
up
in
india,
so
I
am
familiar
with
with
the
global
south
and
how
conservation
can
go
wrong,
so
I
do
have
a
little
bit
of
that
lens
and
bias
as
well
I'll
I'll
pause,
because
I
know
I'm
speaking
fast.
If
thank
you
for
watching.
E
So
I
think
here
we
are,
we
are
sort
of
in
that
part
of
divergence,
and
what
I
would
like
to
do
during
the
scholars
is
try
to
look
bring
through
to
that
point
of
convergence,
and
I
do
think
we
are
looking
at
least
from
the
forum
discussion
through
different
lenses.
One
is
this:
is
this
is
very
concretely
a
technological
module
and
there.
F
E
E
So
I
think
we
kind
of
collectively.
We
are
very
smart
people
on
this
call
here,
but
are
missing
some
of
the
context
in
the
road
map
and
timeline
in
each
of
our
heads,
and
just
there
is
a
place
where
both
of
this
can
happen
and
which
is
the
mutual
benefit
of
of
the
community
and
the
ledger
and
the
network
and
the
vision
that
we
seek
for
it.
And
I
would
love
to
pass
the
talking
stick
along
to
to.
Maybe
somebody
who
can.
E
I
share
the
vision,
but
I
would
love
to
also
hear
from
one
of
you
on
on
the
vision
of
of
for
the
the
module
and
the
class
and
what
it
really
means
to
create
classes
there.
And
what
will
it
mean
now?
What
will
it
mean
later
and
where
the
different
stages
in
the
roadmap,
and
maybe
people
who
are
missing
here
or
are
that
maybe
punching
and
healing,
with
benefits.
C
G
D
F
F
F
Right
now,
carbon
is
the
standard
and
carbon
credits
are
the
standard,
and
I
think
that
you
know
to
build
a
marketplace
where
other
types
of
credits
can
be
sold.
You
kind
of
have
to
start
with
meeting
the
market
where
it's
at
in
some
ways,
just
because
that's
what
people
are
familiar
with,
but
you
know,
as
people
learn
more
about
regen
network
and
what
we're
doing,
hopefully,
it
will
migrate
in
the
direction
of
you
know
kind
of
some
of
these
other
projects,
which
it
already
is
so
happy
to
answer.
Questions
about
that.
G
G
G
G
G
G
C
C
C
And
I
see
that
in
in
a
number
of
organizations,
there's
only
one
other
woman
on
this
call
right
now,
and
so
so
I
understand,
regen
network
building
region
network
is
like
building
a
house.
We
first
we
look
for.
Where
are
we
going
to
build
it?
What
are
the
materials
we're
going
to
use
who's
going
to
help?
How
are
we
going
to
do
it?
What
what's
it
going
to
look
like?
C
C
These
are
all
decisions
that
that
we
make
when
we
think
about
building
a
house-
and
this
is
what
I
see
after
a
few
months
of
participating
in
meetings
about
regen
network
and
learning,
how
it
works
and-
and
maybe
I'm
wrong,
but
this
is
this
is
what
I
see
from
where
I
am
that
we
have,
if
we
imagine
ourselves
as
a
seed,
and
we
ask
okay,
we
know
what
kind
of
seed
this
is.
Where
are
we
going
to
plant
it?
What
does
it
need
in
order
to
grow.
C
C
And
I'm
I'm
also
feel
frustrated
to
see
that
there's
there's
nothing
concrete
happening
yet
there's
conversations
and
more
conversations
and
more
meetings
and
more
writing.
But
what
they're?
I
don't
see,
any
action
so,
for
example,
something
specific
the
pastasa
river.
We
want
to
clean
up
the
pastessa
river,
and
that
means
we
need
to
mobilize
and
go
talk
to
our
brothers
and
sisters
and
neighbors
and
people
who
live
along
the
pastasa
river
and
we
need
that
means.
C
C
So
that's
that's
a
bit
of
the
context
of
how
communities
and
organizations
here
are
used
to
being
treated
and
there's
a
sense
of
urgency,
because
we
see
things
happening
like
there's
a
one
of
the
one
of
the
associations
that
forms
the
edge
of
our
nation
of
ecuador.
That
is
made
up
of
about.
Seven
communities
has
put
on
their
agenda
for
an
assembly
later
this
month.
C
Carbon
trading
and
sales
of
carbon
credits,
because
mestizos
and
gringos
and
people
are
showing
up
trying
to
convince
communities
that
this
is
a
good
idea
without
explaining
it
in
detail
without
taking
time
to
make
sure
that
people
understand
how
this
whole
system
is
working,
they're
just
coming
in
and
and
pushing
it
as
hard
as
they
can,
and
so
we
need
to
be
out
there.
Helping
folks
understand
this.
C
And
I've
I've
been
to
the
united
states,
I've
been
to
germany,
I've
been
to
colombia,
I've
been
through
the
jungle
and
visiting
other
communities
of
other
cultures
in
peru
and
brazil,
and
I've
seen
a
lot
of
horrible
things
and
I've
seen
a
lot
of
communities
doing
their
best
to
to
do
to
to
live
well
and
at
our
culture.
We
we
also
tend
to
sit
around
and
have
lots
of
conversations,
but
then
we
do
something.
B
B
B
So
I
was
just
sort
of
saying
thank
you
very
much
hyun
for
sharing
her
experience
and
that
I
think
it's
really
important
that
that
experience
is
essential
and
the
wisdom
is
essential
for
us
to
have
any
kind
of
success
in
any
of
this,
and
I
was
sort
of
disagreeing
in
a
friendly
way
saying
we
do
need
to
talk
to
each
other
in
order
for
that
connection,
to
happen
between
land
stewards
and
indigenous
people
and
farmers
and
scientists
and
software
designers.
Otherwise
we
won't
know
you
know
what
we're
all
thinking.
B
B
So
I'm
just
saying
you
know
from
my
perspective
the
the
most
powerful
place
to
have
this
conversation
is
to
ground
it
in
the
needs
and
the
actions
that
hyun
and
patrick
and
other
people
see
as
necessary,
see
see
the
see
the
pasta
river
is
polluted
and
needs
to
be
healed.
Then,
let's
talk
about
how
to
do
that,
and-
and
you
know
where
the
money
needs
to
flow
and
how
that
can
happen
and
let's
build
those
solutions
based
on
something
concrete
right.
B
B
B
B
But
what
I
was
trying
to
express
is-
and
maybe
that
wasn't
enough-
and
probably
it
wasn't
enough,
but
that's
part
of
the
context
of
like
where
this
all
came
from.
So
it's
not
to
say.
Oh,
we
already
checked
that
box,
but
that's
the
it's
part
of
the
reality,
and
do
you
mind
just
translating
that
for
me
really
quickly,
patrick
before
I
translate
the
second
chunk
of
what
I
was
saying
into
english.
C
C
B
B
House
I
was
doing
a
friendly
disagreement
with
the
really
great
metaphors
of
the
house
and
the
tree,
and
and
and
asking
us
to
consider
that.
Actually,
what
we're
growing
is
an
ecosystem,
not
a
single
tree
and
we're
not
building
a
single
house
and
so,
for
instance,
the
eco-credit
module
is
just
a
little
bush.
It's
just
a
little
baby
bush,
but
that
baby
bush
is
going
to
provide
the
shade
for
other
things,
to
grow,
bigger
trees
and
other
species.
And
so
the.
B
B
So
so,
just
to
like,
in
that
I'm
I'm
sort
of
saying,
there's
a
paradox
that
we
have
here
trying
to
do
this
right,
trying
to
grow
this
ecosystem,
which
is
that
on
one
hand,
you
know
we
are
actually
having
a
community
conversation
about
the
first
network
upgrade
and
the
most
important
like
the
real
there's.
Some
functionality
we
have
don't
haven't,
had
functionality,
we're
building
the
functionality
to
take
concrete
action
and,
on
the
other
hand,
you
know
and
that
sort
of
serving
inclusion.
B
B
B
B
How
does
the
eco
module
support
that
or
not
you
know
what
other
things
would
need
to
be
built
or
already
exist,
to
make
those
actions
happen
and
that
if
we
can
center
the
conversation
on
something
concrete
and
co-creative,
then
we
can
learn
together
and
figure
out
how
that
influences
the
rest
of
the
system,
because
it's
sort
of
growing
as
an
ecosystem,
not
just
as
a
master
planned
house
and
we
have
to
sort
of
source
from
the
yeah.
We
just
have
to
source
our
our
understanding
in
a
more
fluid
way.
B
D
If
it's
okay,
I'd
like
to
just
interject
very
quickly
and
and
just
note,
another
component
of
this
reality
is
that
when
we
just
when
we
started
design
for
the
credit
module
that
was
in
maybe
march
or
april
of
2020,
that
was
before
we
had
launched
mainnet.
That
was
before
we
had
anybody
working
at
regen
foundation.
D
D
What
was
the
signaling
proposal
and
this
content
that
was
like
here
is
the
plan
all
figured
out
and
you
know,
as
gregory
is
pointing
to
like
this
is
one
bush.
This
is
one
element
of
what
will
be
a
lot
of
other
things
to
come,
potentially
and
a
lot
of
other
things
that
we
have
to
like
co-create,
and
I
think
now
that
we
have
these
forums,
and
these
other
you
know
larger
community
stakeholders
that
we're
trying
to
engage
with.
D
Yeah
totally
so
I
am,
I
joined
region
network
in
february
of
last
year,
kind
of
as
a
technical
product
manager,
one
of
the
first
folks
on
the
engineering
team
who
was
involved
a
bit
more
on
the
on
the
on
the
kind
of
project,
management
and
product
management
side
of
things
as
well.
And
since
then
you
know,
we've
grown
the
engineering
team
and
I've
been
managing
and
kind
of
leading
the
engineering
team
alongside
aaron
our
cto.
D
And
so
my
my
work
is
is
more
strictly
on
on
the
engineering
side,
you
know
we've
recently
hired.
Actually
a
product
lead
darren
kong
who's,
not
here
on
this
call-
and
you
know,
he's
taking
a
bit
more
ownership
over
the
product
direction
of
stuff,
but
my
role
is:
is
more
on
yeah,
on
engineering
and
working
with
our
engineers
and
historically
did
involve
some
specification
and
some
of
the
architectural
work
as
well.