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This Regenerati News Hour discusses Prop 26 which enables an ICA host module on Regen to use Quicksilver for liquid staking. The Regenerati News Hour is an opportunity for community engagement for anyone interested in planetary regeneration.
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B
A
I'll
give
a
I
just
wanted
to
flag
a
few
things,
maybe
before
we
jumped
in
on
Quicksilver.
First
of
all
welcome
everybody.
As
you
are
aware,
this
is
the
bi-weekly.
Now
every
two
weeks
excuse
me
regenerati
news
hour
where
you
have
the
opportunity
to
hear
from
on
specific
topics
as
well
as
get
General
news
and
updates
on
what's
happening
around
the
regen
Network
ecosystem
I
wanted
to
flag
a
few
things
that
are
just
in
movement,
one
it's!
A
A
You
know
that
nothing
goes
sideways
between
now
and
then
so
congrats
really
to
a
big
congrats
to
the
the
r
d
engineering
team
and
toucan
and
into
the
polygon
community-
and
you
know
it's
been
a
long
long
trip
to
get
here,
but
it
feels
like
we're
making
fantastic
progress
so
stay
tuned
for
that
I'm.
Also
up
on
just
up
on
Commonwealth
regen
Ledger
5.1
proposed
upgrade
there's
a
post
in
on
the
region
Network
handle
that
starts
to
discuss
in
Twitter
style.
A
Some
of
the
upgrades
as
NCT
basket,
updates
fixing
a
few
errors
and
improving
ux
prep
for
the
toucan
regen
bridge
and
some
other
other
minor
upgrades,
so
anyhow
stay
tuned.
If
you
want
to
get
some
more
details,
please
go
to
our
Commonwealth
and
you
can
dig
in
and
find
out
what's
moving
there
and
then
that
will
go
up
on
chain
shortly
for
consideration
by
the
community
and
yeah,
and
the
team
yeah
continues
to.
A
The
r
d
team,
in
particular,
continues
to
work
on
onboarding
new
credits,
credit
classes,
very
lots
of
stuff
exciting
that
hasn't
quite
reached
a
public
conversation
yet,
but
the
team
is
working
quite
hard
and
you
know
to
continue
to
support
the
origination
from
our
community
of
nature-based,
carbon
and
ecological
credits,
bringing
those
to
Market
and
getting
them
into
the
web.
2
and
web3
ecosystems.
So
stay
tuned
for
some
announcements
around
that.
A
So
I
don't
have
the
number
here,
but
we
can
get
into
that,
but
we're
gonna
unpack
like
what
it
means.
What
liquid
staking
is
what
it
means,
this
relationship
between
regen,
Network
and
Quicksilver,
the
opportunities
it
avails
and
unpacking
kind
of
a
pretty
novel
idea
that
has
taken
shape
in
the
cosmos
ecosystem
around
liquid
staking
and
and
this
partnership
we
have
with
our
friends
over
at
Quicksilver.
So
you
as
a
speaker.
C
B
Hey
yeah
sure
some
wish
I'm
one
of
the
co-founders
of
quicksilver
Quicksilver,
if
you
guys
aren't
familiar,
is
a
liquid
staking
Zone
in
Cosmos,
and
we
do
liquid
staking
cross
chain
right.
We're
a
sovereign
chain
that
does
like
mistaking
before
I
started.
Quicksilver
I
was
a
part
of
chorus,
one
which
is
another
big
validator
in
the
cosmos
ecosystem.
I
was
primarily
doing
like
product
research
there
and
the
product
was
the
liquids
taking
solution.
Course
one
has
been
doing
liquid
segment
research
for
a
long
time,
so
I
was
a
part
of
it.
B
B
Yeah
there's
actually
a
pretty
good
analogy.
I
like
to
use
right
liquid
signal
essentially
provides
liquidity
on
your
stake
assets
right
or
on
your
assets.
If
that
makes
sense
right,
like
everybody
at
some
point
in
their
life,
you
know
have
assets
which
are
illiquid
right.
You
have
your
house,
which
is
an
illiquid
asset
right,
but
you're
still
able
to
take
a
loan
off
of
your
house
by
essentially
creating
a
paper
form
out
of
it
right.
You
can
say:
okay,
this
is
my
house.
It
costs
this
much
and
then
you
can
leverage
it.
B
You
can
borrow
off
of
it.
You
could
use
it
for
finance
right.
You
can
do
the
same
thing
with
gold
right.
None
of
the
nobody
actually
carries
around
hunks
of
gold
to
trade.
It's
done
on
paper.
So
when
you
put
a
physical
asset
on
paper,
you're
creating
a
derivative
out
of
it,
but
when
you
put
a
proof
of
stake,
asset
or
state
proof
of
stake
asset
through
Quicksilver,
you
get
a
q
asset,
which
is
a
derivative
of
your
state
asset
right
and
the
primary
use
case
of
this
is
it
provides
you,
liquidity
right.
B
You
can
use
this
asset
in
D5,
you
can,
you
know
just
sit
on
a
liquidity.
Have
some
flexibility.
You
know
with
your
portfolio
yeah.
It
completely
transforms
the
landscape
of
proof
of
stake
assets
right
because
you
know
if
people
are
familiar
with
brutal
stake
assets,
they
generate
staking
rewards
right.
So,
as
they
generate
staking
rewards
you
can't,
you
won't
be
able
to
do
anything
else
with
it
if
it's
locked
up
right.
So
what
you
want
to
do
is
earn
these
Rewards
while
doing
something
else
with
this
asset.
C
Awesome
yeah
I
think
that
that
was
a
great
description
there.
Definitely
this
corollary
to
all
kinds
of
other
assets
that
we
don't
actually
physically
trade
most
of
the
time
but
use
other
kinds
of
derivatives.
I
I
can
totally
see
that
carrying
through
so
I
guess
the
next,
so
so
you've
got
a
front
seat
with
liquid
staking
from
day
one
in
that
chorus,
one
had
been
Commissioned
I
think
it
might
have
been
by
interchain
to
publish
a
report
on
liquid
staking.
C
Maybe
it
was
back
in
2019
or
something
you
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
guess
so.
You've
been
around
the
liquids
taking
scene
for
a
while
here.
Why?
Why
Quicksilver?
What
what
distinguishes
you
from
some
of
the
other
approaches
out
there
and
what's
what's?
What's
your
guys
kind
of
vision,
specifically
for
how
Quicksilver
wants
to
be
bringing
quick,
quick
liquid
staking
to
to
this
space.
B
Yeah
absolutely
so
a
couple
of
things
that
Quicksilver
does
different,
so
I
guess.
The
first
thing
is
for
any
liquid
saving
solution.
You
can
divide
it
into
two
layers
right.
The
first
layer
is
the
actual
staking
or
liquid
staking
layer
of
it,
and
the
second
part
of
it
is
okay.
How
do
you
choose
valorators
right
so
on
the
on
the
first
problem,
I
think
many
liquid
staking
Solutions
have
aligned.
B
You
know
back
in
our
last
year's
Feb
white
paper.
We
unveil
the
concept
of
like
a
sovereign
chain
right,
a
solvent
liquid
statement
chain
which
can
use
interchain
accounts
to
connect
other
chains
to
provide
liquids
taking.
So
you
have
a
chain
agnostic,
liquid
saving
solution,
right,
one,
liquid
Sagan
protocol,
which
can
provide
liquid
statement
for
many
chains.
B
This
wasn't
always
the
case
right
because
back
in
the
day,
liquids
taking
protocols
or
smart
contracts,
many
of
them
still
are,
and
you
deployed
on
one
chain
and
if
you
want
to
serve
another
chain,
you
have
to
deploy
another
contract.
So
this
changed
right
and
this
the
like,
when
interchange
accounts,
came
out.
We
knew
that
we
had
to
build
this,
and
that
was
like
what
motivated
us
to
start
quicksilver
in
the
first
place.
B
Now
there
are
many
liquid
saving
protocols
now
that
use
this
model,
but
Quicksilver
has
differences
on
the
second
layer
that
I
mentioned
that
which
is
the
validator
distribution
layer.
I.
Think
Quicksilver
is
the
only
liquid
saving
protocol
in
all
of
crypto
right
now,
which
has
a
completely
permissionless
and
open
validator
set.
Usually
liquid
saving
protocols
have
a
white
list
right.
They
choose
some
validators
based
on
a
number
of
factors
and
they
delegate
to
these
validators
and
they
choose
what
percentage
of
assets
go
to
these
validators
right.
B
B
There's
no
incentive
to
do
like
many
of
these
other
tasks
that
validators
have
to
do
in
in
the
ecosystem
right,
so
validator
having
a
completely
open
validator
set,
was
absolutely
necessary.
Now
we
also
takes
a
one
one
step
further
by
letting
people
actually
choose
which
validators
to
delegate
to
right.
B
We
have
this
thing
called
signaling
intent
when
you
stake
with
Quicksilver,
you
can
choose
which
validators
you
want
to
stick
with
and
at
what
percentage,
so
I
think
Quicksilver
is
also
the
only
liquid
second
protocol
in
crypto,
which
has
this
approach
to
validator
distribution
and
actually
what's
cool
about
this.
Is
you
can
do
this
cross
chain
right,
like
let's
say,
you've
chosen
a
validator
a
and
now
you
have
your
assets,
you,
you
have
your
queue
region
in
an
osmosis
pool
right,
but
you're
not
happy
with
the
evaluator
choice.
You
want
to
change
it.
B
A
B
A
B
So
now
you
can
do
D5
governance
and
staking
all
at
the
same
time,
because
also
this.
This
is
something
that
was
that
I
thought
was
never
really
fair
because
you
have
a
governance
process
and
then
you
have.
You
know
people
who
participate
in
D5
and
they're,
essentially
locked
out
of
governance
right
if
you're
not
staking
you're
locked
out,
which
I
guess
from
from
a
consensus
model
makes
consensus
model
perspective
makes
sense,
but
in
like
an
actual
ecosystem
building
perspective
didn't
really
work
out
for
us.
So
this
is
something
you
can
do
with
Quicksilver.
A
That's
helpful,
thank
you
for
sharing
and
then
you
know,
maybe
just
another
context.
You
know
just
giving
you
the
opportunity
to
spread
your
wings
a
little
bit
about
the
benefits
of
quicksilver.
Obviously
there
are
you
know
our
emerging
projects
that
are
offering
some
version
of
liquid
staking
within
the
cosmos
ecosystem.
You
know,
is
there
kind
of
just
a
general?
A
B
Yeah
absolutely
so,
to
summarize,
what
essentially
differentiates
Quicksilver
is
that,
while
staking
with
Quicksilver,
you
can
choose
your
own
validators
and
you
can
change
your
choices
at
any
given
point
of
time
right.
The
second
big
differentiator
is,
you
can
vote
on
governance
proposals
using
Quicksilver
assets,
and
you
can
do
this,
no
matter
where,
where
your
assets
are
right,
you
don't
need
to
have
them
locked.
You
don't
need
to
have
them
on
the
quick
silver
chain.
They
can
be
anywhere
in
The
Interchange
and
you
can
vote
with
them.
B
A
A
What
does
that
Avail
to
you
as
far
as
the
ability
to
create
more
interesting,
tooling
or
feature
sets
As
you
move
forward,
yeah
and-
and
you
have
a
sense
of
you-
know-
from
a
roadmap
perspective
for
the
rest
of
the
year,
directionally
kind
of
where
Quicksilver
is
looking
to
continue
to
evolve
and
up
level
to
meet.
You
know,
you
know
pretty
Dynamic
Cosmos
ecosystem,
you
know
with
new
modules
being
developed
and
all
kind
and
yeah,
and
just
how
the
market
is
Shifting
and
changing.
B
Yeah,
so
it's
essentially
two
layers
of
development
that
Quicksilver
will
work
on.
One
is
a
contract
layer
right
we
are
going
to
enable
Cosmos
and
people
can
deploy
contracts.
Existing
applications
can
deploy
their
out
outposts
on
Quicksilver,
so
that
will
go
on
right.
Contracts
will
be
built
in
Quicksilver,
but
the
other
thing
we
would
also
planning
to
do
in
2023
is
really
leverage.
This
claims
infrastructure
we've
built.
So
all
of
the
features
I've
talked
about
you
know
I've
kept
mentioning
that
or
you
can
do
this
cross
chain.
B
You
can
do
this
cross
chain
right,
that's
actually
a
pretty
big
deal
in
Cosmos,
because
you've
never
been
able
to
do
that
when
you
take
your
assets
from
chain
a
to
chain
b.
As
far
as
the
chain,
a
logic
is
concerned,
those
assets
are
gone
right
and
this
obviously
makes
composability
very
difficult
in
Cosmos
because
you
have
your
assets
on
multiple
chains.
But
how
does
each
chain
logic
know
that
these
assets
exist
that
they
belong
to
you?
You
know
what
they're
doing
so.
B
We've
built
this
thing
called
the
claims
module
right,
which
uses
interchange,
queries
to
essentially
figure
out
which
to
figure
out
like
which
assets
belong
to
which
user
on
which
chain
we
currently
use.
This,
for
you
know
voting
on
governance
proposals,
choosing
evaluators
things
like
that.
We
want
to
expand
this
use
case
right.
This
can
theoretically
be
used
for
anything
and
we're
the
only
Cosmos
chain
to
have
this
sort
of
tech
built
out.
So
that's
something
we're
definitely
looking
to
leverage
in
23.
C
Great
yeah,
so
I
guess
just
to
walk
people
through
some
of
some
of
the
things
that
they
might
be
able
to
do
with
with
liquid
stake,
regen
I
guess
the
first
question
would
be
what
what
can
people
do
there?
They
can
head
over
to
Quicksilver
Zone
and
liquids,
take
their
regen.
What
what
sorts
of
things
might
they
be
able
to
do
with
Q
regen
right
now.
B
Yeah,
so
right
now,
the
best
thing
to
do
would
be
to
provide
liquidity,
the
queue
region,
region
pool.
You
know
it's
really
important.
We
build
that
pool
up
to
a
point
where
we
can
then
start
supporting
lending
or
collateral.
Integrations
right,
I,
think
that
will
be
like
a
next
big
step
for
Q
region,
where
you
can
actually
use
it
as
collateral
to
borrow
assets
or
to
minstave
the
coins
right
so
I'd
say
those
are
like
step
one
and
step
two,
but
then,
after
that,
it's
pretty
much
Limitless
right.
A
I
think
yeah
encourage
if
anyone's
got
questions
for
Vish
or
the
Quicksilver
team.
Please
feel
free
to
hop
up
on
stage
or
ask
a
question.
You
know.
Certainly
this
is
some
new
territory,
I
believe
looking
at
the
Quicksilver
app
I
think
we're
one
of
three
changes
that
write
this
so
far
that
are
engaged
on
the
at
the
app
so
far
is
that
right.
C
A
Then
maybe
you
know
again
similar
similar
road
map
Styles,
you
are
we
expecting
some
more
chains
coming
on.
Are
there
any
you
know,
and
maybe
even
talking
about
like
how
chains
engage
so
it
sounds
like
you
know,
just
a
little
bit
as
a
governance
geek
that
the
and
I'm,
maybe
the
terminology,
can
help
me
with,
but
the
I
don't
know
if
it's
the
host
chain
or
the
connecting
chain,
it
needs
to
put
up
a
governance
proposal
to
enable
the
ICA
module
on
their
own
chain.
A
And
then
after
that,
though,
it
sounds
relatively
seamless,
so
your
your
favorite
chains
or
zones
out
in
Cosmos
can
connect
in
pretty
quickly
and
activate.
Do
you
want
to
just
maybe
outline
and
explain
kind
of
the
governance
Community
process
on
both
sides
of
Quicksilver
and
the
and
the
other
chain.
B
Yeah
sure
so,
essentially
for
any
chain
to
be
onboarded
onto
Quicksilver,
they
need
to
have
interchange
accounts,
enabled
with
like
a
few
critical
message,
types
being
enabled
with
that
right.
It's
taking
a
message
waited
for
that
kind
of
thing.
Once
that's
done
and
ICA
is
you
know,
interchange
accounts
is
going
to
a
level
where
it's
going
to
be
standardized
on
every
chain,
so
it's
almost
an
assumption
that
ICA
will
exist
on
most
chains
right.
B
As
you
know,
people
upgrade
that
Cosmos
SDK
and
as
use
cases
come
up
so
once
interchain
accounts
is
enabled
on
the
chain
on
the
on
the
chain
that
needs
to
be
onboarded
onto
Quicksilver.
It's
a
pretty
seamless
process
there
right.
Anyone
can
essentially
put
up
a
governance
proposal
on
Quicksilver,
and
this
opens
an
interchain
account
on
that
chain,
and
then
you
can
start
liquid
staking
from
there
on
currently
I
think
osmosis
as
a
proposal
to
onboard
osmosis,
which
is
going
I.
Think
I
think
it
ends
by
today,
but
yeah
once
that's
done.
A
B
A
B
I
I
do
have
an
idea,
but
I
don't
know
how
novel
it
is,
but
I'll
say
it
nonetheless,
like
essentially
I
thought.
This
was
like
a
great
way
to
create
demand
for
region
and
like
the
entire,
like
tokenized,
ecological
asset,
Marketplace
and
Cosmos,
right,
I,
think
many
people
and
institutions
and
Cosmos
want
to
hold
ecological
assets.
But
the
question
is:
what
do
we
do?
B
What
do
we
do
with
them
right
and
what's
the
opportunity
cost
versus
holding
you
know,
holding
an
ecological
asset
versus
holding
you
know
any
other
Cosmos
asset
right
and
I.
Think
liquid
shaking
can
really
bridge
that
Gap
right.
If
we
create
deep
liquidity
on
that
pool
and
create
all
these
really
cool
and
exciting
use
cases,
then
there's
like
a
very
clear
reason
for
people
to
buy
these
ecological
assets
right
and
and
the
opportunity
costs
and
holding
them
and
using
them
in
D5
would
be
greatly
reduced.
B
You
know
to
offset
their
carbon
emissions,
and
then
you
know
the
liquids
taking
it
as
Q
region,
providing
liquidity.
Borrowing
off
of
it,
you
know
you
can
have
each
protocol
owned
some
Q
region
to
offset
the
carbon
emissions,
but
imagine
if
you
could
borrow
off
that
right.
If
someone
wanted
to
you
know,
do
a
community
pool
spend
instead
of
giving
a
grant,
you
can
borrow
of
your
Q
region
and
then
use
it
right.
B
A
Love
it
thanks
for
sharing
it's
it's
something
you
think
about
for
sure.
One
other
question
and
again
I'm
a
bit
smooth
brain
on
this
stuff
relative
to
how
the
regen
Q
regen
pool,
shows
up
what
what's
the
dynamic
with
you
know,
impermanent,
loss
or
slippage
is
that
I'm
trying
to
wrap
my
head
around
what
that
even
means
or
look
like
when
you
have
a
the
native
regen
token
and
and
Q
regen
in
the
same
pool
and
I
assume
this
is
whatever
the
answer
is.
A
B
Yeah,
so
impermanent
loss
basically
occurs
when
the
price
of
one
asset
in
the
pool
changes
in
relation
to
the
other
asset
right.
So
you
have
when
you've
deposited
your
assets,
50
50,
that
ratio
is
not
50,
50
anymore
and
so
you've
experienced
impermanent
loss
right
now
with
Q
region
and
region,
you're
not
going
to
experience
any
impermanent
loss,
because
both
of
both
of
the
assets
are
fundamentally
the
same
and
that
price
is
correlated
so
very,
very
little
Improvement
loss
on
these
pools
and
to
make
it
even
better.
B
It's
a
stable,
swap
pool
right,
stable,
swap
pool.
This
is
essentially
a
pool
where
the
price
of
the
assets
and
incentives
are
concentrated
across
a
price
range
right.
This
essentially
means
super
tight
liquidity
around.
You
know
a
very
tight
price
range.
This
means
even
less
slippage,
even
less
impermanent
loss
for
liquidity
providers,
so
yeah
that
you
know
that
really
makes
like
the
liquids
taking
LP
opportunity,
a
really
low
risk
opportunity,
and
if
you
look
at
like
mature
Market,
it's
actually
a
very
low
reward.
Opportunity
too
right.
B
If
you
go
to
like
any
of
the
curve
pools
versus
like
uni
swap
pools,
the
curve
pools
are
much
lower
apis,
especially
you
know
more
you're,
more
established,
stable,
swap
pools
so
in
Cosmos.
We're
at
that
place
now,
where
stable
swap
pools
is
still
early,
so
they're,
giving
out
pretty
high
rewards
so
yeah
quite
an
opportunity
to
get
involved
with
like
low
risk.
A
Higher,
One
pool.
A
C
Sure
yeah,
so
maybe
one
more
thing
that
would
be
helpful
to
walk
through
just
some
some
of
this
liquid
staking
101
Vish.
Could
you
just
share
a
little
bit
about
the
way
the
Redemption
rate,
works
and
kind
of
compounded
staking
works
when
people
have
their
their
regen
and
they
switch
them
into
liquid
stake
regen
and
then
there's
this
kind
of
growing
difference
between
the
value
of
those
two
tokens.
Could
you
just
walk
people
through
about?
What's
going
on
there
yeah.
B
For
sure,
so,
essentially,
when
you
stake
regenerate
Quicksilver,
you
get
back
Q
region
right
now.
The
way
Q
region
works
is
that
its
value
keeps
increasing
over
time
right.
So
you
can
think
about
it.
Like
a
vault
which
keeps
earning
you
rewards.
Your
legion
is
locked
inside
that
Vault
and
the
Q
region
is
the
key
to
that
Vault.
Now
the
value
of
the
key
increases
as
the
amount
in
the
vault
keeps
increasing
right,
so
you're
you're
out
there
you
have
this
key
you're
playing
around
with
it
doing
D5
trading
it.
B
While
your
regen
stays
in
this
Vault
gating
value,
that's
what
we
call
Redemption
rate
right.
You
can
essentially
open
the
vault
with
the
key
and
redeem
all
of
your
assets
right.
So
at
the
price
at
which
you
can
redeem
your
assets
is
the
Redemption
rate,
so
this
Redemption
rate
should
keep
increasing,
as
staking
rewards
accrue.
C
C
Well,
Vish
I've
been
so
glad
that
we
could
host
you
here
on
the
the
regenerati
news
hour
today.
I
really
appreciate
you
taking
the
time
to
walk
us
through
all
of
this,
as
I
mentioned,
there's
a
few
links
in
the
comments.
If
people
want
to
dig
in
a
little
further
here
and
I
guess
I'll
hand
it
back
over
to
you
Dave
to
close
us
out
that.
A
Sounds
great!
Thank
you
again.
Thanks
fish
and
the
Quicksilver
community
and
team
really
appreciate
the
partnership.
You
all
been
wonderful
to
work
with
and
again
with
my
lower
Labs
validator
hat
on
and
validating
for
both
Chains
It's
really
been
enjoyable,
professional
and
yeah,
just
Good
Vibes
all
the
way
across.
A
A
So
I
don't
know
if
you're
in
a
space,
if
you
are
in
a
space
that
you
can
hop
up,
I'm
just
gonna
invite
you
to
speak,
but
this
can
continues
the
ongoing
efforts
between
regen
Network
community
and
our
friends
around
the
cosmos
ecosystem
of
getting
up
carbon,
zero
or
I'm.
Sorry
Cosmos,
zero
proposals
where
communities
are
invited
to
consider
carbon
offsetting
or
going
carbon
neutral.
A
So
start
we've
been
working
closely
with
the
stargaze
community
on
the
latest
Cosmos
0
proposal
that
has
gone
up.
So
if
you
are
a
token
holder
in
stargaze-
and
you
feel
strongly
about
this,
please
feel
free
to
jump
in
that
I
can't
remember
the
length
of
the
stargaze
governance
window,
but
it
is
up
in
an
active.
A
A
C
A
He's
connecting
yeah,
so
it's
been
I'd,
say
relatively
a
pretty
successful,
exciting
campaign.
You
know
I
gotta
share
again
I
think,
as
we've
discussed
before,
we've
learned
a
ton
throughout
this
campaign
on
where
communities
are
at
the
variety
of
frankly,
the
you
know
the
nature
unique
nature
of
each
particular
chain
where
some
have
community
pools
that
they
are
are
healthy
and
have
allowed
them
to
directly
offset
or
purchase
and
retire
their
carbon
and
offset
their
chains
and
others.
A
We've
worked
with
more
creatively
where
they've
purchased
were
actually
regen,
has
utilized
the
purchase
and
actually
stake
the
tokens
of
those
native
chains.
So,
instead
of
instead
of
us,
the
community
pools
of
the
participating
chains
particip
or
buying
that
NCT
directly
from
from
the
osmosis
or
soon
to
be
osmosis
pool.
A
The
regen
Network
development
has
played
a
really
strong
role
in
understanding
that
reality
and
allowing
the
retirement
of
that
carbon
and
staking
with
those
tokens
that
help
purchase
that
to
ensure
you
know,
which
is
in
the
cosmos
way
and
ongoing,
interesting,
exciting
relationship
with
that
particular
chain
as
well.
As
you
know,
taking
advantage
of
hitting
the
carbon
offsetting
goals
so
just
flagging
that
for
future
future
reference,
so
with
all
that
said,
I
think
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
retire.