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B
C
Well,
why
don't
we
prioritize
getting
to
jam
with
you
in
that
case
and
thanks
for
for
hopping
on
while
you've
got
the
time
and
for
for
everybody
else,
the
sort
of
the
Run
of
play
in
the
conversations
I
think
we're
going
to
be
cycling
through
conversations
about
the
cosmos,
zero
Campaign,
which
is
underway.
There's
been
voting
in
Juneau
and
there's
been
voting
in
Akash
and
there's
been
voting
in
gravity,
decks,
gravity
decks
past
it
looks
like
Juno
and
Akash.
C
So
the
relationship
between
region,
Network
and
evmos
is
pretty
exciting.
It
creates
a
pretty
exciting
potential,
so
I
want
to
sort
of
start
with
jamming
on
that
and
the
role
of
Cosmo
zero
and
even
going
Beyond
and
kind
of
kick-starting
that
whole
refi
in
Cosmos
Vision.
So
feather.
Do
you
want
to
just
just
share
a
little
bit?
I'm,
not
I,
think
maybe
some
of
the
audience
just
sharing
broadly
like
what
is
fmos
and
then
we
can
get
to.
How
are
we
going
to
help
Foster
Community
refi
on
Atmos.
A
Yeah
for
sure,
so
evmos
is
an
evm,
compile
evm
IVC
compatible
chain
on
Cosmos
the
McQueen
alignment
between
the
different
actors
in
and
stakeholders
in
the
ecosystem.
That
means,
while
their
users
and
developers
all
together,
aligned
in
in
a
short
goal
of
creating
amazing
infrastructure
that
can
tap
into
the
interoperability
of
Cosmos
and
create
new
user
use
cases
and
a
better
user
experience
overall
for
the
entire
ecosystem,
and
so.
C
I
love
that
I
want
to
sort
of
double
click
on
that.
So
what
you're
saying
is
the
experiment
of
evmos
is
not
only
to
bring
the
ethereum
virtual
machine
into
the
IBC
world,
but
it's
also
to
be
working
on
better
incentive
alignment
that
goes
beyond
the
just
sort
of
vanilla
proof
of
stake.
You
know
we're
incentivizing.
C
A
A
For
example,
region
network
in
in
this
particular
case
region,
Cosmos
tokens
are
able
to
be
represented
as
erc20
tokens
on
the
AVM,
and
so
these
refi
projects
on
evmos.
You
can
natively
interact
with
the
region
token
and
you
use
it
for
liquidity,
for
example
same
with
other
ecosystem
tokens
from
Cosmos.
So
that
is
something
that
we
are
working
on
during
this
week
during
this
entire
year,
which
is
the
entire
interoperability
narrative
around
fmos.
And
how
can
we
leverage
that
to
better
serve
projects
like
regions.
C
Right
so
it
sounds
like
there's
two
layers
here
like
one
is
kind
of
creating
composability,
well,
three,
really
creating
composability,
creating
opportunities
for
cross-chain
liquidity
to
kind
of
fuel,
engagement
and
Innovation,
and
then
the
third
there
is
this
deeper
Innovation
around
fee,
splits
going
to
DAP
developers,
specifically
so
and
and
I
just
want
to
sort
of
put
a
note
there
for
for
the
region.
Audience
I
think
there's
a
really
strong
opportunity
for
both
being
inspired
by
evmos
and
collaborating
with
this
concept
of
kind
of
cross
chain.
C
Token
economics
we're
in
the
midst,
as
a
community
of
exploring
and
dialoguing
and
debating
about
pretty
radical
overhauls
to
the
Token
economics
of
region.
Network
right
now,
and
so
this
is
I,
think
really
fertile
opportunity
to
engage,
innovate,
learn
and
grow
a
deeper
shared
understanding
of
really
exactly.
How
are
we
creating
and
programming
in
the
kind
of
incentive
alignment?
That's
necessary
for
a
community
to
sort
of
become
the
owner.
Operators
of
you
know
a
blockchain,
that's
providing
really!
You
know
in
region
networks
case.
You
know.
B
C
C
C
Great
and
I
see
a
few
refi
folks
developing
in
solidity
out
there,
so
this
is
very
exciting
to
just
kind
of
unveil
some
of
these
opportunities
yeah,
so
the
cosmos
zero
campaign,
actually
we've
been
collaborating
with
it,
with
a
community
of
actors
on
this
process
for
I.
Guess
it's
probably
going
on
almost
two
years
now
to
create
yeah
to
bring
the
entire
Cosmos
zero
carbon
neutral
or
negative,
so
that
at
the
protocol
level
anytime,
a
new
blockchain
new
state
machine
is
getting
spun
up.
We're
able
to
be
offsetting
those
emissions.
C
This
does
a
couple
of
things.
One
is
we
really
believe:
I
guess
the
community
that's
forming
around.
This
believe
that
this
creates
a
competitive
advantage
in
the
marketplace
of
protocols,
because
you
know,
people
who
want
to
engage
with
these
protocols
can
just
so
clearly
jump
Beyond
any
of
the
fear,
uncertainty
and
doubt
related
to
crypto
and
carbon.
You
just
say:
hey
look,
you
know
we're
fully
we're
not
only
using
an
efficient
technology
and
proof
of
stake,
but
we're
also
just
fully
offsetting
everything.
C
It
also
lays
the
groundwork
for
some
of
these
deeper
incentives
where
we're
funding
public
goods
or
reducing
negative
externalities,
which
I
think
is
really
core
to
the
sort
of
like
vision
and
Mission
that
brought
many
of
us
into
the
web
3
space.
So
that's
number
one
and
number
number
two
is
this:
helps
sort
of
like
bootstrap
wrap
this
new
on-chain
value
and
commodity
which
which
are
Eco
credits
and
carbon
with,
but
starting
with
real
use
instead
of
starting
with
purely
speculative
value.
C
So
we've
been
region,
Network
team
and
a
group
of
validators
I,
see
I,
see
Delray
from
stake
in
here.
Hey
the
regenerator
value,
validator
Eco
stake
stake,
Sito,
hey
staccito
will
get
you
up
here
as
well,
have
been
working
together
to
go
directly
to
protocol
governance
bodies
and
socialize
offsetting
at
the
protocol
level,
so
not
doing
it
validator
by
validator
and
I
guess.
C
So
that's
kind
of
the
overview
of
the
cosmo
zero
campaign
and
then
I
think
Cosmo.
Zero
plus
is
is
this
idea
that
also
we
can
more
deeply
align
incentives
between
protocols
like
avmos
and
and
regen,
by
sort
of
building
the
larger
Marketplace
and
opportunity,
and
that's
where
we
can
start
to
see?
How
do
we
bring
carbon
liquidity
onto
Atmos?
A
Yeah,
so
we
are
really
excited
for
the
carbon
zero
and
especially
the
Carver,
zero
plus
I.
Think
this
proposal
is
a
great
first
step
for
addressing
the
ecosystem
needs
on
on
offsetting
all
their
carbon
emissions
that
we've
done,
but
as
an
ecosystem
and
I've
spoken
to
to
Gregory
and
the
entire
region
team.
A
We
acknowledge
that
this
is
not
enough,
like
the
proposal
is
definitely
not
enough
to
ensure
that
in
a
longer
term,
we
are
not
only
offsetting
all
the
emissions,
but
we
are
also
reducing
those
emissions,
and
so
these
we
see
this
as
a
grade
first
step
to
addressing
this
problem
like
in
the
in
the
short
period
of
time,
but
with
the
help
of
the
region
team
and
the
all
the
values
of
the
region
community
and
the
entire
Atmos
Community.
We
plan
we
plan
to
reduce
carbon
emissions
over
time,
and
so
that's
the
The.
A
But
if
we,
if
we
even
want
to
go
beyond
on
how
do
we
Foster
reach
ecosystem
of
refi
applications
on
evmos
on
entire
ecosystem?
And
for
that?
We
think
that
interoperability
is
key.
And
then
our
roadmaps
should
be
aligned
to
enable
decentralized
applications
and
smart
contracts
to
build
all
these
defy.
A
Apps
and
use
region,
for
example,
for
minting
and
on
registering
new
Eco
credits
and
then
offsetting
the
interoperability
by
directly
connecting
with
region,
and
so
that's
kind
of
like
the
the
medium
and
the
short,
the
medium
and
the
long
term.
Alignment
that
we
want
with
region
networks
towards
a
more
sustainable
ecosystem.
C
C
You
know
hop
up
and
ask
a
question
specifically
to
Fed,
a
or
or
myself
about
this
sort
of,
like
the
carbon,
zero
plus
vision
for
evmos
or
or
the
opportunities
for
refi
on
evmos
or
anything
else
that
you've
heard
about
just
kind
of
give
a
moment
for
if
anybody
wants
to
come
up
and
engage
with
that,
because
we're
going
to
kind
of
shift
a
little
bit.
We've
Got
Jake
here
from
from
Juno,
really
excited
to
jam
with
you
as
well
about
the
happenings
over
on
Juno
and
and
that
relationship
okay.
D
Everybody
really
really
excited
for
this
campaign.
Pushing
out
you
know,
different
Graphics,
trying
to
share
and
put
my
information
in
and
ways
that
we
can.
You
know,
mitigate
this
liquidity
because
I
feel
like
there
is
going
to
be
a
setup
of
just
different,
these
refi
app
chains
and
stuff
that
are
going
to
be
needing
these
Eco
credits.
D
The
NCT
is
something
that
I'm
just
been
really
really
happy
about
coming
to
Cosmos
and
seeing
that
you
know
coming
to
Cosmos,
but
it
was
the
idea
behind
retirement
of
these
Eco
credits
on
Cosmos
and
I.
Guess
maybe
like
trying
to
take
different
Avenues
of
retirement
and
trying
to
you
know
where.
Where
are
we
funding
these
things,
and
you
mentioned
refi,
Zone,
I,
I
use!
The
question
is:
are
we,
how
are
we
retiring
these
Eco
credits
and
what
does
that
do
for
the
you
know,
for
us
really?
C
Just
like
you
know,
wheat
right,
you
you
to
use
wheat
you're,
turning
it
into
bread
or
cereal
and
and
once
it's
bread
or
cereal.
It's
a
different
thing
and
it's
going
to
be
consumed.
Carbon
credits
are
the
same,
so
carbon
credits
get
consumed
by
a
protocol
or
a
business.
That's
offsetting
emissions
right,
so
retirement
happens
on
regen
Ledger
and
that's
one
of
the
core
roles
of
regen
Ledger
and
the
region.
C
Once
those
are
retired,
they
become
a
non
it's
sort
of
like
turning
it
into
a
soul-bound
token,
to
use
vitalik's
language
right,
you're,
turning
it
from
a
fungible
asset
and
a
liquid
asset
to
a
non-fudge
fungible
certificate
that
you
have
offset
your
carbon
there's
a
whole
other
piece
on
keeping
track
of
sort
of
the
ecological
debit
side
and
the
credit
side.
But
we
don't
need
to
go
into
that
at
this
stage,
but
the
important
thing
is
in
tracking
retirement.
What
we're
tracking
is
that?
C
There's
an
entity
like
a
blockchain
like
evmos
or
Juno,
or
region
Network
as
state
machines
that
have
offset
their
carbon
with
it,
and
you
sort
of
this
is
what
the
emissions
were.
This
is
what
the
carbon
offsets
were,
and
you
can
also
do
that
as
an
individual
and
so
we're
going
to
be
continuing
to
build
out
the
user
story
of
kind
of
tracking
and
keeping
track
of
all
of
that.
But
that's
the
basics.
D
Just
another
thing
to
talk
about
in
terms
of
on
the
ground
projects-
and
you
know,
projects
I
want
to
develop
in
either
in
any
chain.
I
think
there's
just
going
to
be
a
wide
variety
of
people
that
are
attracted
to
different
chains
and
are
doing
the
underground
work,
and
so
you
know
just
for
the
community
of
evmos
there's
a
lot
of
discussion
of
a
short-term
versus
long
term
like.
Why
are
we
doing
this
I
think
I
think
FedEx
talked
about
a
carbon
negative
eventually
getting.
D
There
is
something
that
we're
you
know.
That's
inevitable,
I!
Think
for
if
we're
trying
to
fund
those
those
projects,
but
you
know,
can
we
I
guess
like
there's
a
there's,
a
there's,
a
relationship
here
that
we
can
gain
revenue
from
I?
Guess
the
work
being
done
by
funding
them
and
maybe
a
surplus
of
you
know,
carbon
credits
are
needed
because
you
know
sometimes
you
know
doing.
D
One
piece
of
work
could
could
eventually
long
term
be
generating
more
a
surplus
of
these
credits,
so
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
bring
that
out
and
hopefully
getting
the
most
community
that
really
need
more
of
a
I
guess.
A
spark
to
to
see
like
this
development
is
real.
It's
it's
going
to
help
long
term
and
there's
going
to
be
even
more
benefit
once
we,
you
know,
fund
these
projects.
C
C
So
there's
lots
of
people
doing
amazing
work
to
try
to
develop
new
ways
of
developing
credits,
but
also
new
ways
of
using
them
and
there's
so
much
experimentation
that
I
think.
Maybe
in
some
ways
the
evmos
community
hasn't
sort
of
had
a
direct
connection
with,
but
there's
just
sort
of
this
Renaissance
happening
around
regenerative.
C
So
there's
this
really
rich
opportunity
for
develop
project
developers
and
there's
also
a
very
rich
opportunity
for
those
of
us
who
are
sort
of
working
at
the
protocol
level
to
create
these
networks
to
Spur,
Innovation
and
regeneration
and
I.
Think
the
the
long-term
excitement
here
is
to
have
these
experiments
in
incentive.
Alignment
and
kind
of
innovation
really
bear
fruit
in
the
real
world
right
so
that
people
start
to
see
hey
through
driving
this
innovation
and
hosting
and
building
these
different
decentralized
applications
we're
seeing
really
cool
real
world
change
in
our
communities.
C
C
You
know
a
centralized,
maybe
dystopian
version
of
the
world.
So
that's
also
sort
of
really
hits
on
some
of
the
inspiration
and
ideas
on.
Why
are
we
even
doing
all
this
in
the
first
place,
so
so
with
that
I
want
to
pass
it
over
to
you
Jake,
because
I'm
oftentimes,
inspired
by
the
depth
of
your
kind
of
ethical
and
philosophical
vision
of
like?
Why
are
you
working?
C
So
hard
on
Juno
and
stargaze
and
Dao
Dao,
and
you
know
a
self-avowed
anarchists
like
why
is
like
from
that
perspective,
why
is
coordinating
and
engaging
around
climate
and
carbon
offsetting
important
to
you
personally,
I
guess,
and
then
we
can
get
into
the
stuff.
That's
happening,
governance
processes
and
all
the
rest
of
that.
E
You
first
of
all,
no
I,
think
I
think
these
frankly
I
just
don't
really
have
hope
in
our
existing
institutions
to
actually
solve
the
ecological
crisis.
That,
like
you,
know
that
faces
today.
You
know,
and
carbon
is
just
one
of
them
without
all
the
deforestation
and
all
the
like
destruction
of
like
the
wonderful
species
that
live
on
this
planet
and
all
the
plastic
and
all
the
other
stuff.
That's
like
gonna,
give
us
all
cancer
and
make
our
lives
shorter
and
more
miserable.
E
This
is
fundamentally
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
work
in
crypto
is
because
I
think
that
these
coordination
tools
unlock
the
potential
to
like
take
Collective
action
on
these
issues
that,
like
affect
us
all
and
yeah,
getting
into
the
you
know,
sort
of
idea
of,
like
you
know,
inner
the
way
how
inner
chain
applications
can,
like
you
know,
be
built
around
this
stuff.
I.
E
C
E
We
don't
have
to
do
a
ton
of
extra
work
if
those,
if
you,
if
you
convince
if
there's
documentation
for
you,
know
minting
like
like
these
credits
over
IBC
like
like,
let's,
let's
get
it
out
into
the
the
public
eye.
I
know,
there's
like
you
know,
and
we
we
can
like
talk
with
some
dials
that
are
launching
very
very
soon
about
like
yeah
how
they
can,
how
they
can
start
like
utilizing
this
in
their
work.
I
think
was
just
about
like
spreading.
The
word
amongst,
like
you
know,
like
the
developer.
E
Community
is
on
just
like
yeah
again,
these
the
kinds
of
kinds
of
things
that
they
can
leverage
on
YouTube,
Network
and
just
the
developer
documentation
and
the
great
thing
about
you
know
cross
chains.
Smart
contracts
with,
like
Cosmos,
for
example,
is
like
we
can
like
Leverage
these
things
today,
pretty
relatively
easily
so
I'm
I'm
super
stoked.
C
I
know
there's
a
pretty
strong
Groundswell
of
popular
support
in
the
region,
Community
for
enabling
cosmoasm.
There
is
already
a
cosmos
and
test
net
for
those
of
you
who
are
maybe
excited
about
that
for
do
like
sort
of
interchange,
contracts
and
yeah
I
I
think
focusing
on
sort
of
the
IBC
issuance
cross-chain
messaging
and
retirement
story
so
that
people
can
do
innovation
in
cosmoasm
can
spin
up
a
dow
Dao
can
interact
both
with
regen
and
evmos.
C
You
know
start
in
stargaze,
maybe
there's
people
who
are
issuing
cool
nft
collections
that
are
linked
to
Eco
credits
that
have
been
issued
or
will
be
issued
in
the
future.
I
mean
there's
all
of
this
cool
Innovation
and
what's
really
exciting
about
the
cooperation
coordination.
Innovation
story
is
you
know
we
can
each
be
doing
our
part
in
contributing
to
a
much
bigger
whole.
It's
really
you
know
it's
I'm,
pretty
amped
on
it.
E
Yeah
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
would
be
really
great
to
do
over
the
next
like
month
or
so
is
you
know
again
just
look
at
that
documentation
and
we
can
make
some
like
UI
actions
and
and
doubt
out
that
will
allow
Dows
to
like
just
off
offset
their
carbon
credits.
No
code
they're.
Just
like
you
know,
there's
a
proposal
type.
They
just
click
on
the
proposal
type.
E
Maybe
they,
like
you
know,
fill
out
some
information
about
like
yeah,
what
token
they're
exchanging
like
usdc
or
like
Juno,
and
then
you
know
make
it
just
really
easy
for
for
Dallas
to
take
advantage
of
these
kind
of
features
and
to
like
build
that
into
their
mission
or
just
their
regular
activities.
So,
let's
make
it.
B
B
D
C
Been
playing
and
with
version
one-
and
we
definitely
we're,
excited
and
supported
some
of
the
early
development
of
that
just
Kudos,
and
also
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
I'm
so
excited
about
evmos,
because
you
know,
then
we
can
build
relationships
with
our
friends
over
at
gnosis
or
you
know,
there's
just
so
much
cool
experimentation
in
Dow,
tooling,
taking
place
in
the
larger
ethereum
Community
as
well.
So
we
just
get
this.
You
know
we
just
have
it's
like.
C
A
C
C
Okay,
maybe
we
just
say
we're
all
on
the
same
page,
that's
exciting!
It
opens
up
opportunity.
Maybe
it's
not
perfect,
but
we
can
make
it
much
better
and
it's
exciting
and
fun
to
engage
with.
Where
makes
sense
for
the
responsibility.
Does
it
make
sense
like
the
sub
Dow
at
the
Dow
Dow
level?
This
is
a
smart
contract
level,
the
protocol
level,
all
of
the
above
you
know
just
personal
opinions,
more
than
anything,
and
maybe
also
yeah
like
like
Jake.
E
Oh
yeah,
it's
a
really
good
question.
You
know
I
think
Juno
is
a
little
bit
different,
because
it's
a
lot.
It's
a
lot
more
decentralized.
We
don't
have
like
a
as
strong
of
like
a
core
team
or
as
like
of
like
a
foundation,
and
so
like
everything
has
to
go
through
governance
in
some
form
and
then
I
think
you
know,
let's
be
real,
like
the
extra
complexity
here
is,
you
know,
all-time
low
like
bear
Market
everyone's
grumpy?
Why
should
we
fund
public
totally?
E
E
You
know
the
current
proposals
they
they
may
not
pass
like,
as
is,
and
that's
fine
I,
think
that
there's
a
will
with
many
in
the
community
to
like
you
know,
do
right
by
this
and
we'll
figure
it
out
at
some
point
and
governance
is
sometimes
like
yeah
like
it
can
be
messy
and
frustrating,
and
you
know,
but
at
the
same
time.
Well
it's
people
at
the
end
of
the
day,
governance
is
people
so.
C
E
Little
bit
I
think
it's
a
bad
process
yeah
because
you
know
like
I,
think,
like
with
stargaze.
It
was
pretty
early
on.
It
was
a
totally
different
part
of
the
market
cycle.
You
know
it
like
people
could
see
like
the
sales
aspect
of
like
everyone
was
like
fomoing
about,
like
you
know,
non-green
nfps,
and
so
it
was
like.
First
of
all,
there
was,
like
you
know,
a
very
like
healthy,
like
community
pool
at
the
time
to,
like
you,
know,
fund
out,
I.
E
E
There's
a
lot
of
opportunity
here:
I
can
also
go
for
like
individual
validators
I'm
really
excited
about,
like
you
know
again
like
how.
How
can
we
integrate
these
tools
in
in
our
doubtfuling
so
that,
like
you
know,
we
have
a
bunch
of
different
groups
that
are
like
very
Mission
driven
and
like
how
can
they
take
advantage
of
these
kinds
of
things?
E
That's
a
very
like
decentralized,
like
Community
or
like
like
individual
base,
if
you're,
if
we're
thinking
validators
as
individuals,
even
though
they're
oftentimes
browser
companies,
you
know
these
like
these
are
things
we
can
like
work
on
like
right
away
and
I.
Think
you
know
with
the
governance
thing:
it's
like
it's
a
it's
a
longer
discussion.
E
Cool
I
think
I
think
that
you
know
this
is
the
reality
is
we're
just
gonna
have
to
like.
You
know,
go
go
through
these
like
community
pools.
At
a
time
when
you
know
a
lot
of
people
in
the
community
are
are
hurting.
You
know
you
have
to
understand
that
a
lot
of
the
degens
they
lost
the
money
you
know
and
they're
like.
Why
should
we
fund
public
kids.
E
E
That
I
was
really
and
heartened
to
see
like
a
lot
of
people
are
like
this
doesn't
go
far
enough,
but
you
know
fast
forwarded
like
an
FTX
like
collapse
and,
like
you
know,
I
think,
there's
a
lot
more
work
to
be
done
in
terms
of
like
I
I.
Do
you
think
these
things
kind
of
belong
at
like
the
protocol
level?
But
you
know
at
the
end
of
the
day
these
these
cost
machines
are
massive
dials
and
we
have
to
condense
the
the
massive
dials
to
add
them
at
the
protocol
level.
D
You
know
money
being
funded
through
nft
sales
and
projects
on
the
ground
just
being
funded,
and
you
see
a
lot
of
success
stories
of
going
through
that.
So
you
know
that's
that
might
be
another
Avenue.
We
could.
We
can
think
about
and
Ponder
and
kind
of
structure
some
infrastructure
around
these
nfts
and
what
they
could
do
for
on
the
ground
and
kind
of
maybe
off
protocol.
E
Yeah
I
mean
I,
have
a
friend
who's.
A
conservationist,
and
we've
been
talking
for
a
while
about
like
doing
like
endangered
species
like
nft
series,
where,
like
profits
from
the
nft
sale,
could
go
directly
towards.
You
know
like
like
buying
back
plan,
to
support
conservation
and
supporting
like
conservation
programs.
C
You
know
if
you
get
a
chance
to
check
out
the
the
umbrella,
slash
keystone
species,
Eco
credit
methodology,
that's
under
development
and
review
right
now,
Jake
it'd
be
fun
to
get
your
thoughts
about
that,
a
pretty
Advanced.
You
know
it's
a
little
different
from
sort
of
like
just
crowdfunding
a
conservation
purchase
but
really
sort
of
rigorously
like
hey,
there's
in
their
case.
C
This
is
a
group
in
Brazil
That's
ex
protecting
and
expanding
jaguar
habitat,
but
they
built
the
framework
to
also
be
able
to
do
the
same
thing
for
wolves
or
bison
or
potentially
Marine.
You
know
like
dugongs
or
you
know
whatever
it
is.
Where
there's
this
there's
a
charismatic
elephant,
there's
a
charismatic
species
that
really
represents
the
holistic
health
of
a
whole
place
and
a
whole
Space.
C
We
want
to
be
acknowledged
for
our
uniqueness
and
we
want
to
be,
and
we
want
to
be
part
of
a
community
and
a
tribe
and
I
think
there's
ways
to
kind
of
connect,
all
those
dots
and
I
think
at
Region,
Network
we've
been
so
focused
on.
How
do
you
make
these
claims
rigorous?
How
do
we
prove
that
something
in
the
real
world
is
happening?
How
do
we
leverage
web
3,
but
also
all
the
scientific?
C
You
know
satellite
remote
sensing
digital
signatures
affixed
to
attestations
from
my
monitor
all
these
things.
How
do
we
there's
a
lot
of
hard
work
to
do
there
and
we
haven't
even
really
broached
the
surface
and
on
our
side,
and
this
is
where
I'm
so
excited
about
relationships
with
the
Juno
Community
relationships
with
the
evmos
community
relationship
with
the
stargaze
community.
There's
a
whole
other
layer
there,
which
is
around
sort
of
like
the
packaging
and
the
marketing
and
the
membership
and
the
the
sort
of
like
the.
E
C
E
B
E
E
Of
social
status
side
of
this
thing,
it's
like
anyone
who's
like
ever
done
anything
with
non-profit
profits.
You
know
how
important
that
expensive,
Gala
dinner
is
where
it's
like
people
pay
like
ten
thousand
dollars
to,
like
you,
know,
wear
a
fancy
like
suit
or
whatever,
and
hang
out
with
other
people
who
paid
like
ten
thousand
dollars
for
a
fancy
party,
and
that's
like
how
a
lot
of
non-profits
like
actually
raise
their
money.
It's
just
like
the
status
symbol
around
that
and
so
like.
A
What
other
things
that
I'm,
mostly
excited
about
is
endowed
to
now?
Interpretability
I
think
their
regenerative
Finance
ecosystem
could
hugely
benefit
from
Dow
to
down
interpretability
and
solving
the
ecosystem
needs
by
by
leveraging
what
Cosmos
already
offers
there
for
the
ones
that
are
not
familiar
with
interchange
accounts.
A
It
is
a
huge
opportunity
for
a
Dao
account
on
one
chain
say
on
Juno
or
region
or
evmos
to
also
have
their
community
be
represented
in
another
in
other
genes
and
there's
a
huge
opportunity
so
that
we
can
like
interact
with
contracts
on
Juno,
interact
with
contracts
on
on
fmos
and
also
interact
with
the
marketplace
directly
on
region
and
I.
Think
there
are
huge
opportunities
right
there
that
not
only
benefit
the
entire
rifa
ecosystem,
but
also
provide
a
huge
user
experience,
increase.
C
C
D
C
Also
we're
in
this
present
moment.
You
know
we
have
a
governance
proposal
in
Juneau,
for
instance,
you
know:
do
we
fight
for
that
governance
proposal?
Do
we
create
an
education
campaign?
Do
we
try,
you
know
I
I,
don't
do
we
make
is?
Is
the
primary
concern
cell
pressure
do?
Do
we
make
a
pledge
that
we're
just
gonna
stake
the
tokens
and
you
know
and
then
look
for
longer
term
Synergy?
Do
we
let
it
go
and
make.
E
E
E
C
C
E
I
I
always
think
of
these
things
as
opportunities
that
sometimes
people
get
really
disappointed.
It's
like!
Oh,
no,
it's
like
nope.
This
is
just
like
the
you
know
like
protocol
governance
battle
and
like
it's,
it's
it's
actually
good
and
I
think
it
makes
things
stronger,
long
run
and
like,
for
example
like,
even
if
we
like,
even
if
this
proposal
did
pass
well
now
now
we're
in
the
now
we
gotta
go
and
do
that
same
proposal
like
every
year
or
whatever.
We.
A
C
A
A
C
Have
a
kind
of
a
crazy
idea
to
socialize,
because
Jake
and
Fede
are
both
here,
and
this
has
been
a
swirling
around
at
the
edges
of
my
thoughts
for
actually
like
years.
But
you
know
this
seems
like
a
appropriate
time
to
socialize
and
just
like
see.
Is
this
crazy?
What
if
we
created
an
interchain,
refi
Alliance
Dao?
Essentially,
and
we
all
endowed
it-
you
know
we
all
socialize
with
the
community.
You
know
regen
puts
in
a
big
chunk
of
region.
C
Avmos
puts
in
a
big
chunk
of
avmos
Juno
puts
in
a
big
chunk
of
Juno,
maybe
other
protocols
I
imagine
stargaze
would
be
in
maybe
others
as
well.
Maybe
osmosis
has
was
an
early
supporter
and
seems
pretty
excited,
I,
don't
know,
but
we
sort
of
create
that
in
a
governing
Council
and
we
sort
of
Take
the
Lead,
because
I
think
divisions
for
like
the
cosmos,
Builders
foundation
and
all
these
other
things
they've
kind
of
fizzled.
But
it
feels
like
we
kind
of
amongst
the
people
who
are
passionate
about
real
world
regeneration.
C
D
C
C
Totally
and
just
a
thought
here,
just
you
know
just
just
like
in
terms
of
Alliance
and
paying
it
forward.
I
think
you
know
right
now.
I
think
regen
would
be
happy
instead
of
you
know.
Obviously
we
don't
want
to
market,
sell,
Juno
or
edmos
or
gravity
or
whatever
the
token
is
that's
received
for
this
initial
offsetting
pilot
I
think
you
know
we
could
we.
E
B
C
Just
gonna
contribute
it
and
they're
gonna
like
tribute
it
to
the
refi
interchange
Dao
as
the
the
seed
which
will
then
go
back
and
socialize
for
other
contributions,
we'll
seed
it
with
regen,
we'll
seed
it
with
the
the
Juno
and
the
evmos
contributions
that
are
getting
paid
for
real
things
like
like
look
like
it
costs
real
money
to
produce
those
carbon
credits.
They
weren't
just
conjured
from
thin
air
I.
Just
want
to
make
that
clear.
Those
are
real
real
world
assets.
That's
like
mortgaging
your.
E
House
I
think
this
is
another
like
opportunity
with
the
proposals
of
like
you
know
when
the
third
one
comes
up
and,
like
you
know,
I
think
we
can
do
it
better.
We,
let's
like
educate
the
community
on
these
things,
I
think
a
lot
of
people
are
like.
Oh,
this
is
public
goods
like
it's
just
charity.
You
know
we
don't
want
more
cell
pressure,
it's
like
I,
don't
think
this
is
the
right
way
of
looking
at
it.
E
But
it's
how
people
look
at
it
and
you
know
we
got
to
work
with
people
like
where
they're
at
and
I
think
we
can
build,
like
I,
think
I.
Think
of
these
things,
always
as
like
a
learning
experience
as
an
opportunity
to
like
come
back
and
reshape
the
narrative
in
a
much
stronger
way
that
will
make
basically
every
Cosmos
chain,
regardless
of
you,
know
their
current
liquidity
or
their
current
token
valuation
or
the
current
fears
in
the
community
like
really
want
to
sign
on
board
for
this
stuff.
So.
D
Yeah
I
wanted
to
kind
of
bring
up
some
of
the
stuff
that
in
evmos
that
that
I
was
proposing
about
branding
and
marketing
and
trying
to
utilize.
There's
a
discussion
going
on
about
education,
hackathons,
all
those
kind
of
things.
So
maybe
you
know
I'm
very
interested
in
making
products
and
kind
of
working
out.
Market
ideas,
you
know
get
people
excited
with
the
excitement
exists.
The
work
exists,
I
feel
like
we're
in
a
good
position
to
start
building.
You
know
kind
of
a
brand
and
kind
of
Market
ourselves.
D
As
you
know,
real,
like
real
world
assets
costs
you
know
to
make
these
credits.
Why
not
provide
people
with
you
know
certain
apparels
and
get
get
people
on
board
that
way
and
I
feel,
like
those
you
know,
provide
us
with
with
decent
Revenue
models
and
decent
revenue
streams
that
can
be
used
to
further.
You
know,
fund
development
and
stuff,
like
that,
so
you
know
I
really
want
to
push
forward
and
I'm
hoping
you
know.
I
can
get
it
on
to
keep
discussing
that
in
Atmos.
D
D
C
C
D
C
Of
hard
work
in
this
first
generation
of
Cosmos,
zero
proposals
and
I
think
Jake's
advice
is
really
solid.
Like
let's
learn,
let's
grow,
let's
keep
focusing
on
how
do
we
align
in
incentives?
How
do
we
paint
the
bigger
picture,
which
is
how
this
really
grounds
our
ecosystem
into
the
real
world
into
net
positive
impact,
ecological
regeneration
and
real
Revenue
generation?
So
this
isn't?