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From YouTube: Regenerati News Hour January 19,2023 Cosmos ZERO, Regenerative DAOs, and Regen Ledger 5.0
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Regenerati News Hour with guests Austin Wade Smith from Regen Foundation, Ryan Christoffersen, and Stargaze Protocol. The Regenerati News Hour is an opportunity for community engagement for anyone interested in planetary regeneration.
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A
Taking
on
will
and
booted
him
off,
but
quickly,
re-reinstated
him
after
Mass
outrage,
hopefully
you're
laughing
at
that.
Well,
welcome,
Ed,
good
to
see
you
and
awesome
well
good.
Why
don't
we
so
we
just
start
our
day,
maybe
we'll
just
I'd
love
to
do
a
quick
round
of
gratitudes
actually
with
our
speakers
here
to
start
to
bring
us
into
the
field
before
we
dig
into
a
whole
bunch
of
Juicy
things:
regenerative
Dows!
It's
the
alpha
get
coin
round!
A
Regen
Ledger
5.0
is
up
and
running
so
all
kinds
of
stuff
happening,
but
I
may
want
to
start
with
you
Austin.
What
do
you?
What
are
you
grateful
for
today?
What
what's
moving?
What's
moving
you.
B
Good
question
I'll
do
two
things:
I'm
having
a
Lunar
New
Year
party
on
Saturday,
with
my
partner,
it's
huge
holiday
in
the
Chinese
calendar,
a
station
calendar
More
broadly,
and
we're
gonna
cook
up
a
bunch
of
really
good
food,
I'm
stoked
about
that
and
I'm
also
thankful
for
this
really
tasty
tea,
that
I'm
drinking
that
will
Saul
here
on
the
call
sent
me
for
Christmas.
That's
really
Smoky
and
delicious
rainy
outside
feeling
the
love.
A
It
sounds
wonderful,
Will,
Will's,
all
tease
sounds
sounds
great,
Ryan
gratitude
from
Seattle.
C
C
The
energy
and
excitement
around
what
people
are
hoping
to
accomplish
this
year,
I
mean
immediately
I'm
kind
of
just
thinking
in
terms
of
work
at
regen
Network
and
the
community
support
and
the
validator
community
supporting
the
upgrade
to
5.0,
which
is
something
that
we're
going
to
talk
about
a
little
bit
today
and
I'm,
just
very
grateful
for
everyone
continuing
to
support
the
regen
Mission
and
the
refi
community,
and
also
a
kind
of
shout
out
to
our
science
team
and
registry
team.
C
There's
a
lot
of
pieces
moving
in
the
in
relation
to
kind
of
the
push
to
decentralize
the
registry
and
integrate
kind
of
some
of
this
new
Dow
functionality
and
a
lot
of
people
are
just
leaning
in
and
having
very
important
discussions
around.
What
that
might
look
like
so
just
great
grateful
for
regen,
Network
team
and
community.
C
A
That's
wonderful
love
it
for
now.
Greetings
from
India
give
me
grateful
for
what's
moving
for
you
today,.
D
Well,
my
day,
my
love
my
day
has
been
just
keep
going
to
switching
out
to
communities.
I
just
feel
all
the
love
that
everybody
has
and
everybody
is
in
this
very
good
nature,
just
cheering
each
other
on
and
sharing
the
latest
updates
on
the
projects.
I
think
you
know,
Bitcoin
literally
just
makes
us
do
a
Sprint
right
from
one
Bitcoin
around
to
the
other,
so
they're
just
timing
it
for
us.
It's
been
amazing.
D
B
A
And
I
know:
we've
got
some
other
folks
coming
up
to
stage,
but
why
don't
we
start
diving
in
take
advantage
of
our
time
together,
I
was
thinking
about
starting
with
Austin
I
know
regenerative.
You
were
up,
I,
think
one
of
your
topics,
gonna
be
regenerative
Dao's,
but
obviously
regen
Foundation
also
has
a
project
up
on
Bitcoins
Alpha
rounds.
Yeah.
Maybe
just
give
us
a
more
broadly
this.
How
things
are
moving
for
you
over
at
the
foundation
and
what's
what's
happening,
what
we
should
be
focusing
our
attention
on
today.
B
Yeah
totally
hi
everybody,
I'm
Austin,
hasn't
really
been
formally
announced
yet,
but
I'm
the
executive
director
of
the
region.
Foundation,
if
you
don't
know
who
I
am
that's
the
non-profit
arm
a
region
Foundation,
it's
a
non-profit
arm
of
the
larger
region,
Network
and
there's
a
lot
I
could
say
about
what
we
do
and
what
we're
focusing
on.
But
I'm
here,
joined
by
my
esteemed
colleague,
Shyla
AKA,
Captain,
Obvious
I.
B
Think
that's
your
handle
yeah,
saying
hi
to
talk
about
what's
moving
and
shaking
in
the
region,
Foundation
space
and
then
the
sort
of
Dao
space
related
to
get
coin.
So
I
think
I'll
just
start
by
passing
the
ball
to
Shyla
who's.
Our
really
point
of
contact
for
developing
this
skit
coin
Alpha
around
Grant
and
Shyla.
Maybe
you
can
introduce
yourself,
obviously,
but
also
the
sort
of
what
the
grant
is
and
what
it's
about
and
then
we'll
use
that
as
an
opportunity
to
sort
of
unpack
some
other
bigger
questions
and
see
where
it
goes.
E
Thank
you,
Austin
I'm,
happy
to
be
here.
Hi
everyone
I
see
some
familiar
faces.
Some
people
I,
don't
know.
Thank
you
all
for
inviting
me.
E
My
name
is
Shyla
AGA
I'm,
currently
sitting
in
Nairobi,
Kenya
and
I'm
working
with
Austin
at
the
regen
foundation,
and
we
have
a
really
exciting
project
that
we're
trying
to
fundraise
on
git
coin
on
this
Bitcoin
round,
and
it's
about
the
Chama
Dao
now
I
think
I
have
to
introduce
the
charmer
so
that
people
can
understand
what
a
Chama
is
and
Chamas
have
basically
existed
since
the
70s
as
a
response
to
in
an
inaccessible
credit
and
it
kind
of
started
out
as
these
just
village.
E
Women
groups
that
would
get
together
on
Market
Days
and
started
saving
a
little
bit
of
money
and
they
usually
started
out
as
like
agricultural
kind
of
groups.
So
they'd
all
put
some
money
together.
Buy
some
seeds,
buy
some
manure
and
then
start
start
rhyming.
That
way
and
and
then
it
turned
into
you
know,
years
later,
this
very
complex
financing
mechanism
that
has
existed
and
actually
there's
a
statistic
out
there
that
says
two
out
of
three
Kenyans
are
participating
in
either.
E
This
is
just
a
very
analog
kind
of
way
so
with
with
the
with
the
Chama
kind
of
everyone
contributes,
but
you
contribute
the
amount
that
you
can
and
it's
kind
of
kept
on
this
actual
physical
Ledger,
that's
written
down
and
just
this
piece
of
paper
or
this
book,
and
they
have
like
a
box
usually
where
they
keep
all
the
money
and
it's
really
cute.
E
They
have
like
three
locks
or
or
one
lock
and
three
keys,
and
so
like
the
three
main
people,
let's
say:
that's
like
their
multi-sig
wallet
and
then
they
usually
vote
on
what
to
do
with
that
money
and
and
like
one
of
the
traumas
I'm
in
it,
we
kind
of
do
Investments
every
round.
So
we
vote
and
it's
always
just
like
a
very
basic
voting.
Like
manual
voting,
putting
your
hand
up
or
or
sending
a
message,
and
now
with
the
digital
Revolution
and
we
have
mobile
wallets,
we've
got
WhatsApp.
E
Everything
is
kind
of
moving
towards
a
very
digital
way,
but
there's
still
like
a
big
issue
in
these
governance
structures,
which
is
there's
no
anonymity
in
voting
which
can
kind
of
cause
social
tensions,
because
all
of
these
are
kind
of
trust-based
systems.
So
the
idea
of
the
Chama
and
the
Dao
are
like
so
in
sync
and
I
just
found
it
really
really
interesting,
because
I've
met
so
many
traumas.
E
In
my
let's
say
the
last
five
years
doing
work
in
kind
of
Agriculture
and
developmental
agriculture
that
are
all
working
in
really
good
climate,
smart
agriculture
or
other
nature-based
restorative
practices,
and
the
one
thing
that
was
lacking
for
them
was
obviously
there's
no
like
financing
other
than
what
they're
collecting,
because
there
was
no
like
formal
records
of
of
the
amount
of
money
that
they're
collecting-
and
this
is
a
very
big
industry
in
Kenya.
E
It's
valued
at
like
about
three
three
billion
Kenyan
shillings,
which
is
still
a
lot
of
money
for
the
informal
sector
and
mind
you.
This
is
only
what
they've
recorded
I
bet
you.
E
That
number
is
like
threefold
or
four-fold,
so
I
still
see
that
this
this
this,
this
whole
sector
is
kind
of
in
the
dark,
because
this
data
is
very
valuable
data
about
one,
the
natural
restaurant
or
the
restoration
that
they're
doing,
and
also
to
kind
of
the
the
amount
of
money
that
they're
actually
collecting
and
and
and
the
fact
that
most
of
these
are
also
female,
lead
and
female
run.
So
all
this
data
is
is
not
there
like.
We
have
maybe
m-pesa
statements,
which
is
our
digital
wallet.
E
E
How
do
we
introduce
them
to
doubt
tooling
and
and
show
them
that
these
these
governance
structures
exist,
and
they
can
have
these
informal
structures
but
still
use
the
tools
that
exist
to
kind
of
formalize
and
and
have
proper
governance,
but
also
create
a
body
of
data
that
can
tell
the
story
of
the
work
that
they're
doing
and
then
create
that
so
that
they
can
sort
of
open
themselves
up
to
climate
financing,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
these
are
the
people
on
the
front
lines.
These
are
the
people
working.
E
These
are
the
people
who
are
also
affected
by
by
every
drought,
so
they
should
be
given
the
climate
financing,
but
nobody
wants
to
touch
them.
The
IMF,
the
World
Bank,
all
the
other
things
that
are
coming
in
all
they
other
grants
that
are
coming
in
will
never
ever
give
money
to
them
because
they're
informal
groups-
and
they
have
no
data.
So
this
is
kind
of
the
intersection
that
we're
looking
at
like.
How
do
we
look
at
these
indigenous
groups?
How
do
we
tell
their
story?
E
How
do
we
we
nurture
them
and
and
and
teach
them
these
governance
mechanisms,
show
them
the
tools
that
exist
and
then
sort
of
you
know
bring
the
two
together.
So
what
we're
trying
to
raise
for
the
git
coin
round
is
we're
trying
to
get
enough
money
so
that
we
can
do
a
research
study
because
I
think
we
would,
it
would
be
very.
E
It
would
be
really
really
wrong
of
us
to
just
kind
of
bring
this
technology
to
them
at
first,
but
what
we
want
to
do
is
just
kind
of
highlight
the
work
that
they're
doing
highlight
the
data.
That's
been
collected
the
importance
of
the
data
and
tell
the
story
of
these
groups
for
all
these
these
many
many
years
and
then
get
all
of
that
together
and
sort
of
see
how
a
successful
trauma
could
look
like
what
it
would
be
able
to
do.
E
B
No
just
go
off
no
I
I
think
that's
beautifully
articulated
a
lot
of
things
that
sort
of
stand
up
to
me
and
I
think
they
sort
they
touch
on
the
approach
of
regen
Foundation.
More
broadly
and
honestly,
the
region
Network
more
broadly
too
so
I
think
there's
one
of
the
reasons
that
the
trauma
Dao
project
is
so
compelling
to
me,
and
a
lot
of
other
people
is
that
it
reveals
a
lot
of
the
underlying
beliefs
and
values
that
we
see
regenerative
economics
having
in
a
very
close
applied
sort
of
implementation,
scale
project.
B
It's
not
abstract.
It's
not
a
hypothetical
or
theoretical,
but
very
much
like
in
this
particulars,
and
one
of
them
that
comes
stands
out
to
me.
B
That
I'm
excited
about
is,
we
could
think
of
Dao's
as
traditionally
as
sort
of
like
online
Internet
native
communities
that
use
internet
native
money
like
blockchain,
based
digital
currencies,
to
hold
resources
together
and
to
do
governance
and
vote
to
carry
out
decision-making
processes,
and
one
of
the
big
Revelations
for
me
in
the
last
couple
of
years
and
I
think
tramadau
beautifully
articulates
is
that
this
idea
around
groups,
core
coordinating
with
resources
and
democratically
voting
on
their
use,
is
not
an
online
native
concept
and
it's
not
a
blockchain
exclusive
concept.
B
Lots
of
other
versions
of
the
economy
that
would
be
considered,
informal
or
outside
of
an
extraction.
Market-Based
economy
have
been
experimenting
with
these
models
of
co-ownership
and
co-governance
for
a
long
time,
and
that
these
are
doubts
too,
and
that
doubts
are
a
a
continuation
and
an
evolution
of
this
process
that
didn't
start
with
being
on
chain.
B
It
didn't
even
start
with
the
Internet
or
like
Discord
or
group
chats,
and
that
part
of
the
work
that
regenerative
economics
and
refi
more
broadly
has
to
do
is
understand
that
there's
this
wealth
of
existing
social
organizations
and
like
processes
of
making
decisions
around
money
that
have
been
overlooked
over,
like
basically
disrespected
or
not
even
seen
whatsoever.
B
That
could
come
to
the
Forefront
and
so
I'm
going
to
ask
you
a
question,
and
you
just
you
can
answer
the
question
you
or
you
can
tell
us
more
about
the
sort
of
what's
exciting
to
you
about
the
details
of
this.
But
you
know
one
of
the
challenge
like
there's
a
lot
of
challenges
that
happen
here,
and
some
of
them
have
to
do
with
identity
like
how
do
you
prove
who's?
B
Who,
in
the
trauma,
there's
also
the
question
of
like
how
do
people
know
how
to
vote
like
what
is
the
interface
or
the
UI
ux
challenge?
B
A
lot
of
it
has
to
do
with
like
internet
accessibility
and
infrastructural
questions.
So
the
analog
version
in
concept,
the
analog
and
the
blockchain
native
version
are
extremely
analogous
to
each
other.
But
there's
a
bunch
of
hurdles
that
happen
and
so
I'm
curious.
If
you
can
like
tease
out
Shiloh
what
makes
this
difficult
in
Concepts
they're
very
close,
but
in
execution
there's
a
quite
a
number
of
challenges.
I
just
mentioned
a
few,
so
you
want.
E
Yeah
for
sure,
so
one
thing
that
actually
excites
me
about
this
entire
thing
is:
is
it's
the
the
embodiment
of
eco-feminist
financing,
the
fact
that
it
was
created
by
women
and
it's
this
very
slow
process?
That's
that
requires
a
lot
of
patience,
because
these
these
women
were
meeting
together
and
and
contributing
really
small
amounts.
So
it's
it's
there's
a
lot
of
trust,
also
in
these
systems
and
and
they're
all
kind
of
they're,
all
kind
of
just
related
based
on
who
knows,
who
and
and
and
kind
of
that's
how
they
kind
of
come
together.
E
So
one
of
the
challenges,
obviously,
would
be
you
know
how
do
you
scale
this?
How
do
you
open
this
up
to
to
other
people
when
traditionally,
it's
always
been
just
me,
and
my
Village
me
and
my
the
people
who
are
really
close
to
me
and
and
and
and
and
that's
the
difference
between
the
Chama
and
the
Dao
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I
like
the
fact
that
also
the
the
rules
are
so
fluid
in
that
one
week.
E
Maybe
someone
someone
hasn't
had
enough
money
to
to
contribute
or
enough
time
to
contribute,
and
that
was
kind
of
okay.
There'd,
be
fines,
and
it
would
like
really
differently
would
really
change.
Based
on
the
trauma
that
you're
in
and
and
some
of,
the
issues
that
you
were
talking
about
like
in
Internet
and
infrastructure,
don't
really
exist
in
in
Kenya,
because
we
are,
we
are
properly
connected
and
and
thanks
to
safaricom
and
Vodacom.
E
We
now
have
internet
and
even
the
most
remote
places,
and
now
there's
like
these
cheap
Chinese
phones,
where,
for
like
20
bucks,
somebody
can
have
a
smartphone
with
all
the
with
all
the
apps
on
it.
So,
in
terms
of
internet
usage,
I've
found
that
that
many
indigenous
and
local
communities
are
are
very
much
on
the
internet.
Now
and
and
they're
using
like
mobile
wallets
so
like
when
I'm
trying
to
explain
this
concept
to
some
of
the
traumas
that
I've
been
meeting
I'm,
actually
quite
surprised
that
they
always
put
that
relation
and
say
so.
E
So
my
wallet
would
just
be
kind
of
like
an
m-pesa
wallet
so
because
of
that
precedent,
I'm
finding
it
a
lot
easier
to
kind
of
get
them
to
understand
it.
But
again
the
biggest
issue
is
the
language.
Like
you
know,
web3
speak
is
not
very
friendly
to
non-english
speakers
and
that's
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we're
trying
to
tackle
as
well,
because
we
we're
trying
to.
B
E
It's
it's
it's
not
just
for
for
our
local
communities,
but
it's
actually
it's
actually
for,
for,
let's
say
you're,
like
your
grandma,
you
know:
how
do
you
explain
to
your
grandma
what
we
do
and
we
even
had
a
Twitter
space
on
this
you
know
so
for
me,
the
biggest
thing
is:
is
the
language
because
I
find
that
some
of
these
these
groups
in
regeneration
they
they
don't
really
understand
it
when
you
explain
it
to
them
in
in
words,
but
it
would
be
more
about,
like
song
or
or
analogy
or
like
you
know,
narration
stories
and
and
and
just
to
bring
that
point
about
stories
and
and
and
song
In
My
Tribe.
E
There's
there's
actually
different
songs
that
children
are
taught
at
different
stages
of
their
life,
based
on
the
work
that
they're
supposed
to
do.
So
if
you're
like
a
really
little
kid,
you're
taught
about
weeds
and
this
song
is
about
weeds
and
weeding
and
and
and
then
when
you,
when
you
get
like
to
another
Rika,
we
call
it
you,
you
get
taught
about
about
sowing
the
seeds
and,
and
then
it
gets
to
like
when
you're
like
13
or
14.
E
These
doubts
could
be
the
owners
of
that
data,
not
just
data
in
the
in
the
hard
data
of
the
of
the
statistics
of
of
the
financials
and
and
the
and
and
the
the
Regeneration
they're
doing,
based
on
the
number
of
trees,
they're
planting,
but
also
on
the
indigenous
stories
and
cultures
that
existed
and
and
if
we
can
document
that
and
imagine
amplify
this
and
and
use
the
science
and
the
mrv
Technologies.
To
show
that.
Yes,
these
stories
and
these
songs
have
actually
been
used
for
centuries
and
have
been
have
been
effectively
working.
E
Then
maybe
we
can
even
change
the
narrative
about
about
having
that
and
and
make
people
understand
the
importance
of
that
so
I
see.
Tramadau
is
not
just
this.
You
know
Financial
instrument
and
opening
them
up
to
web3
and
opening
them
up
to
climate
financing,
but
also,
as
this
record
of
of
of
data,
of
an
indigenous
of
culture,
of
of
stories
and
of
spirituality
that
is
kind
of
being
lost
as
well
in
the
process.
So
in
terms
of
other
kinds
of
barriers,
I
would
find
would
would
just
be.
You
know.
E
Obviously
the
web
3
space
is
dominated
by
this
whole
crypto
speak.
You
know
so
I'm
trying
to
kind
of
separate
the
two
and
make
them
understand
that
the
Dao
is
is
sort
of
separate
and
that
the
the
infrastructure
that
is
web3
is
separate
from
what
you
hear
and
what
you
know.
So
obviously
it's
like
bridging
that
that
Gap
and
I'm,
hoping
that
with
the
web,
3
Encyclopedia
and
the
next
step,
which
is
also
going
to
be
a
Dao
toolkit
which
is
specifically
for
land
stewards
in
on
in
in
language
that
they
understand.
E
You
know
like
using
look
language
and
local
Linguistics
as
well,
because
language
is
really
really
important
and
and
and
and
kind
of
tying
that
in
through
story
through
song,
so
that
it's
it's
also
owned
by
the
local
communities
and
obviously
Big
Challenge
is
you
know
getting
all
this
stuff
together.
It's
obviously
going
to
take
a
lot
of
time,
but,
like
I
said,
we
start
with
the
research
and
we
go
from
there.
E
We're
crowdsourcing
a
lot
of
information,
and
if
anyone
wants
to
contribute
to
the
web,
3
Encyclopedia
I'm,
gonna,
post
a
link
and
and
maybe
we
can
Retreat
it
and
people
can
contribute
it.
We
really
need
a
lot
of
contributions
for
people,
so
yeah.
B
If
I
can
just
jump
into
anything,
I
think
that
what
you
said
demonstrates
I
think
this
is
the
future
and
I
think
it
kind
of
demonstrates
where
a
lot
of
the
real
applied
on
the
ground
level
of
regenerative
economics
or
generative
Finance
are
going
and
so
I'm
gonna
plug
that
this
is
the
kind
of
work
that
the
regen
Foundation
supports
and
incubates,
and
for
those
who
aren't
familiar
through
our
project,
the
endowment
we're
exploring
how
doubt
protocols,
tools
and
social
practices
can
support
or
be
informed
by
existing
examples
of
regenerative
culture
and
regenerative
economics
more
broadly
and
regenerative
like
agriculture
too.
B
So
the
shamadau
is
a
really
beautiful
example
of
this
and
I.
Think
you
make
a
great
point
when
we
talk
about
Dao's,
not
just
being
group
chats
with
a
bank
account
or
treasuries
that
are
democratically
maintained,
but
they're
actual
ways
of
keeping
much
more
than
that
that
they're
a
way
of
keeping
a
sense
of
identity.
B
A
sense
of
Storytelling
that
connects
through
a
long
history,
a
long
tail
and
dowels
are
a
really
powerful
mechanism
for
communities
to
own
their
own
data
to
own
their
own
storytelling
and
their
own
resources
in
a
way
which
is
transparent,
at
least
internally
to
the
group
that
holds
that
those
resources
and
can
be
protected
so
like
Dao's
as
sort
of
a
Commons
of
identity
or
comes
of
Storytelling
I,
see
I.
Think
it's
really
powerful
and
the
larger
efforts
in
2023
within
the
foundation
is
to
really
sync
with
on
the
ground.
B
Communities
dedicated
communities
around
regeneration
that
are
already
doing
this
work
that
are
in
the
Weeds
on
the
details
of
how
it
actually
plays
out
in
social
life
and
economic
life
and
how
they
can
be
supported
by
Dao's
but
endowed
tooling,
but
maybe,
more
importantly,
like
how
dow
tooling
can
learn
from
them
that
the
tools
reciprocally
are
informed
by
what
the
these
practices
have
been
doing
for
a
long
time
and
that
it
runs
both
ways.
B
We
don't
bring
decentralization
technology
to
Chamas
anymore
than
we
bring
Chamas
to
the
larger
world
of
blockchain
and
decentralization
technology,
so
that
it's
mutual
learning.
B
I'll
guess
we'll
like
we
could
go
on
this
for
a
long
time,
because
I
think
this
is
a
brilliant
idea,
but
I'll
pause
and
say
if
anyone
has
questions
or
if
you
want
to
Pivot
over
to
another
topic,
I'm
happy
to
keep
going
or
just
sort
of
kick
the
ball
back
out
to
the
broader
group.
If
anyone
has
questions.
E
It's
just
a
legitimizing
tool
and
that
that's
a
big
issue
here,
there's
so
many
people
in
Kenya
who
every
day
lose
their
land
or
lose
their
their
rights
to
the
land
because
of
some
government
project
or
some
Railway
that's
being
built,
and
it's
because
they
don't
have
the
records
to
prove,
and
they
don't
have
the
legitimacy
to
prove
that
there
are
even
an
association
because
they
won't
even
be
able
to
get
a
bank
account
and
yet
there's
so
many
workings.
There's
so
much
that's
happening
in
the
in
the
process.
E
E
A
lot
of
a
lot
of
people
have
gone
to
school
because
of
these
things,
so
I
think
it's
we're
it's
going
to
be
a
learning
process
and
and
we're
really
hoping
that
the
research
will
not
only
open
them
up
to
now
these
to
this
tooling,
that
can
be
built
by
literally
anyone
who's
interested
in
it,
but
also
for
the
Dow
communities
to
learn
that
this
is
not
the
best
thing
that
you
just
created,
but
it's.
This
is
something
that
has
happened
for
first
for
years
and
not
just
in
Africa.
E
A
Right
on
well,
thank
you,
Austin
and
Shayla
for
the
really
just
fascinating,
I
and
I'd
read
about
Chamas
and
some
of
the
work
that
you
could
all
been
putting
out
in
the
even
last
gate
coin
round.
But
it's
really
nice
to
get
such
a
beautiful
Illustrated
shouldn't
painted
in
my
head.
So
thank
you
so
much
and.
A
You
can
look
up,
regen
Foundation
your
funding
again,
even
if
you
only
have
a
dollar
or
two
gets
multiplied
many
times
over
with
quadratic
funding,
and
it's
about
the
number
of
donate
folks
donating,
not
necessarily
the
amount
donated
at
each
during
each
donation.
So
please
make
sure
check
out
regen,
Foundation,
obviously,
they're
doing
outstanding
work,
critical
part
and
Cornerstone
of
the
regen
ecosystem.
Really
bringing
you
know
often
I
I
think
help.
A
Us
are
supporting
the
voices
that
are
not
being
represented
so
often
in
web
3
and
in
blockchain
and
bringing
their
knowledge
to
us
and
sharing
more
about
this.
The
potentials
of
this
Tech
stack
with
those
communities
so
exciting,
exciting
work.
Thank
you
so
much
both
for
joining
us.
Okay.
So
why
don't
we
make
a
pivot
here
and
I?
A
See
again,
there's
some
requested
speakers
so
Ed
and
and
Jan
stand
by
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
chance
for
Ryan
with
regen
Network
development
is
going
to
share
a
little
bit
more
about
the
latest
of
what's
happening
with
regen
Ledger,
the
our
blockchain,
a
recent
upgrade
to
5.0
and
Ryan
mate.
You
want
to
share
a
little
bit
some
of
the
highlights
of
what
that.
What
does
that
mean
for
us?
What's
what's
new?
What's
what's
fresh
and
what's
on
the
horizon,.
C
Yeah
thanks
Dave
I
I
first
want
to
just
reiterate
the
excitement
around
the
the
work
that's
being
done
by
regen
foundation
and
the
the
the
intersection
and
kind
of
figuring
out
where
these
the
tooling
meets
the
actual
real
world
organizations
Community
governed
groups
and
is
something
that's
really
like
driving
a
lot
of
my
inspiration
and
What
attracted
me
to
regen
Network
in
general,
when
I
joined
back
a
couple
years
ago,
and
actually
10
years
ago,
when
I
was
in
college,
I
I
filmed
a
documentary
on
how
microfinance
was
being
used
in
impoverished
communities,
and
the
I
know
like
the
the
the
disconnect
is
is,
is
pretty
clear
at
the
moment
to
me,
because
I'm
just
like
buried
in
the
technology,
but
that's
always
been
like
a
driving
force
to
me
in
the
Chama
groups
in,
is,
is
kind
of
reminding
me
a
lot
of
like
my
initial
inspiration.
C
So
I'm,
just
I'm
really
moved
by
the
conversation
that
took
place
just
before,
and
I'm
gonna
pivot
a
little
bit
and
dive
more
into
the
technical
side.
Now.
But
hopefully
we
can
start
kind
of
seeing
some
connections
between
the
the
the
two.
In
terms
of
the
tooling
meeting,
the
real
world
use
cases
so
yeah
to
start
off.
C
Regen
Ledger
5.0
was
released
last
week
as
soon
as
we
got
back
from
our
holiday
break,
we
put
out
the
official
release
and
we
upgraded
to
regen
5.0
at
the
beginning
of
this
week,
and
that
was
a
successful
upgrade
and,
as
I
mentioned
in
the
beginning,
like
very
grateful
for
our
community
for
all
the
support
and
the
validators
for
having
a
smooth
upgrade.
And
so
what
regen
Ledger
5.0
includes
is
a
is
a
lot
of
tooling
around
governance
and
two
in
particular.
C
It
updates
to
the
cosmos
SDK
version
046,
which
gives
us
the
group
module,
which
is
a
module
that
was
originally
developed
within
the
regen
Ledger
repository,
and
then
it
was
moved
over
to
the
cosmos
SDK
and
is
now
maintained
by
the
core
Cosmos
SDK
developers,
and
it
also
gives
us
an
updated
gov
module
and
so
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
features
of
each
of
those
and
then
yeah,
but
before
diving
into
those
I.
Think
those
are
the
ones
I'm
going
to
focus
on.
It
also
provides
interchange
accounts,
so
we've
updated.
C
The
latest
version
of
IBC,
so
people
familiar
in
the
cosmos
ecosystem.
Basically,
this
allows
you
to
call
messages
cross
chains
like
on
other
blockchains
in
the
cosmos
ecosystem
that
have
the
ICA
module
enabled,
so
that
is
not
enabled
by
default
after
the
upgrade,
but
we
set
it
to
not
being
enabled
by
default.
C
So
it
will
require
a
governance
proposal
to
enable
the
host
and
controller
modules
that
allow
for
this
communication
to
take
place,
as
well
as
the
messages
that
are
allowed
to
be
called
on
regen
Ledger
from
another
blockchain,
and
then
the
last
one
is
like
relayer
incentivization,
along
with
the
IBC
updates.
We
also
added
the
IBC
fee
middleware
to
our
IBC
modules,
which
enables
the
ability
to
tip
relayers.
Essentially
at
this
stage
it's
not
a
requirement
or
anything
but
for
a
cross
chain
message
execution.
C
C
So
I'm
gonna
go
into
the
group
module
and
the
the
governance
module
updates.
The
group
module
in
particular.
This
is
like
really
exciting,
especially
in
relation
to
kind
of
like
the
discussion
that
just
took
place
like
there.
It
is
the
first
step
and
towards
like
what
governance
might
look
like
and
what
Dao
structures
and
Frameworks
might
look
like
that
would
relate
to
real
world
use
cases
in
essentially
what
the
group
module
enables.
Is
it
it's
kind
of
like
a
more
advanced
multi-sig?
C
So
essentially,
you
can
create
a
group,
and
the
group
can
have
multiple
decision
policies
or
it
could
have
just
a
single
decision
policy
and
a
decision
policy
has
an
address
associated
with
it,
and
so
that's
actually
the
address
or
addresses
of
a
group
account
and
basically,
with
each
decision
policy,
you
can
decide
on
what
the
parameters
are
for
the
for
proposals
submitted
with
that
decision
policy.
C
What
would
it
enable
it
to
pass
so?
Basically,
there's
two
default
or
included
out
of
the
box
decision
policies.
One
is
like
a
threshold
decision
policy,
the
other
one
is
a
percentage
decision
policy
and
the
threshold
decision
policy
is
based
off
of
Weights.
C
So
when
you
add
a
member
to
a
group,
you
you
can
assign
them
a
weight,
it
could
be
any
integer
essentially,
but
if
the,
if
the
weight
of
like
say
you
have
three
members
in
your
group
and
each
of
them
have
a
weight
of
one,
you
can
set
a
decision
policy
with
a
threshold
of
two
and
that
would
require
two
out
of
three
of
those
people
to
essentially
allow
for
the
the
proposals
to
pass
and
once
the
threshold's
Met
it
it
X
The
Proposal
passes
and
versus
a
percentage
it
it's
it's
not
based
off
of
weight,
but
rather
based
on
the
percentage
of
yes
votes
or
no
votes,
or
no
with
veto
or
abstain
within
the
the
whole
group.
C
So
threshold
decision
policies
are
specific
to
weights
that
are
assigned
to
members
of
the
group,
and
then
you
and
then
percentage
decision
policies
are
not
associated
with
weights
and
those
are
kind
of
the
two
different
Frameworks
you
can
do.
You
can
use
to
create
a
decision
policy
at
the
moment
with
the
group
module,
and
this
basically
allows
for
any
account
kind
of
like
stepping
back
from
a
high
level
like
what
was
discussed
in
relation
to
the
trauma
as
well
is
like
the
managing
of
funds.
C
So
this
is
the
Democratic
kind
of
approach
in
or
whatever
kind
of
structure
that
you
want
to
implement
through
the
decision
policies,
but
it
is
like
the
the
first
initial
use
case
is
basically
like.
Okay.
If
you
want
to
pull
together
resources
and
funds
as
a
group,
then
you
have
the
ability
to
manage
those
funds
and
the
distribution
of
those
funds
and
how
those
funds
are
handled.
C
Can
is
is
determined
based
off
a
decision
policy
where
some
of
it
basically
can
submit
a
proposal
to
to
the
group
following
a
certain
decision
policy
or
associated
with
a
certain
decision
policy
that
would
that
would
either
transfer
funds
or
re-delegate
funds
to
a
validator
or
withdraw
rewards
and
put
it
into
a
treasury
account.
C
There's
a
lot
of
opportunities
and
exploration
is
kind
of.
One
thing
that
we're
leaning
into
now
is
is
less
in
terms
of
like
technical
development
and
More
in
terms
of
focus
on
like
okay,
what
are
the
Frameworks
and
what
are
the
different
functions
that
might
relate
to
entities
on
regen
Ledger
and,
like
specifically
like
what
does
a
a
group
look
like
for
a
project?
What
does
a
group
look
like
for
a
credit
class?
C
What
does
a
group
look
like
for
the
registry
and
there's
a
lot
of
different
like
there's
a
lot
of
different
approaches
that
you
could
take
and
so
we're
kind
of
exploring
what
that
might
look
like
in
each
different
situation
and
speaking
with
our
project
developers,
the
projects
that
are
bringing
credits
to
regen,
Ledger
and
kind
of
trying
to
better
understand
what
their
needs
are?
C
So
the
group
module
it's
like
kind
of
open
call
right
now,
just
like
in
terms
of
like
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity
there
to
explore
and
experiment
with
different
governance
structures
and
like
what
what
kind
of
functionality
like
a
dow
might
have
existing
on
regen
and
even
in
relation
to
the
interchange
accounts
update
as
well.
C
It's
like
the
ability
to
have
that
Dow
be
cross
chain
and
operate
and
execute
messages
on
other
Cosmos
chains
as
well,
so
I'm
very
excited
for
the
group
module
and
and
the
opportunities
that
opens
up
and
then
a
little
bit
about
the
governance
module.
C
Sorry,
yeah
I'm,
just
there's,
there's
a
lot
to
unpack,
so
I,
don't
didn't
really
know
where
to
start
but
yeah
governance
module.
Basically,
this
update
the
governance
proposals
are
now
like
arbitrary
messages.
So
basically,
the
government,
like
previously
like
an
updating
of
a
param
like
terms
of
like
a
token
wide,
like
I,
mean
Network
wide
vote,
would
update
a
single
parameter
and
basically
that
parameter
is
is,
is
a
specific
kind
of
object
in
state.
C
But
now
the
governance
up,
the
governance
module
update,
allows
for
anyone
to
execute
I
mean
for
anyone
to
submit
a
proposal
for
the
gov
module
to
execute
any
sort
of
message
and,
along
with,
like
the
authorization
module.
This
enables
someone
to
submit
a
proposal
for
the
gov
module
to
authorize
another
account
to
execute
what
would
normally
be
like
a
parameter
change
proposal.
So
there's
there's.
None
of
this
is
like
implemented
at
the
moment,
but
there's
a
lot
of
opportunities
and
things
to
think
about.
C
In
terms
of
whether,
like,
for
example,
a
science
Community
like
whether
they
should
actually
have
the
ability
to
add
credit
types
rather
than
having
a
network-wide
vote
by
token
holders.
That
might
not
necessarily
have
the
research
and,
under
the
research
background
and
understanding
of
what
a
new
edit
type
would
entail
and
like
what
the
the
parameters
of
that
credit
type
would
be
so
yeah
I
mean
I.
C
I
can
go
into
more
detail
on
either
of
those
and
I'm
gonna
yeah
pause
there
in
terms
of
letting
some
questions
arise
or
or
we
can
move
forward
with
other
discussions.
A
Obviously,
happy
to
take
other
questions
as
well
or,
if
you
want
to
put
them
in
the
chat,
so
just
with
with
groups
in
particular.
Obviously
it's
a
pretty
big
advancement
I
know.
It
definitely
strikes
at
the
heart
of
being
more
agile
in
Democratic
decision
making
around
what
happens
in.
A
D
A
Is
that
what's
that,
gonna
look
like
so
you
know
and
I'm
thinking
to
some
degree
you
know
obviously
we're
on
the
marketing
com
side.
You
know
what's
the
level
of
accessibility
and
to
whom
and
when.
C
Yeah,
that's
a
a
great
and
very
important
question
right
now
at
the
very
moment,
there's
not
a
user
interface
for
the
group
module
and
one
of
the
challenges
with
this
is
like
there's.
There
is
so
much
flexibility
in
different
approaches
that
you
could
take,
and
so
like
a
custom
interface
in
a
lot
of
ways
would
make
the
most
sense.
But
that
being
said,
the
regen
Network
development
team
is
building
a
kind
of
generic
group
interface
that
would
allow
for
people
to
manage
their
manage.
C
Their
groups
basically
create
a
group
manage
members,
submit
proposals,
create
decision
policies,
update
all
of
the
decision,
policies
or
group
members.
C
So
basically
it
it
would
be
like
a
very
generic
one
so
like
it
might
be
difficult
or
challenging
for
someone
that
has
like
a
particular
use,
for
example
like
a
trauma
or,
for
example,
like
a
CS
Dow,
or
something
like
if
they're,
if
they
have
a
particular
focus
in
terms
of
what
kind
of
functionality
the
the
group
is
executing
in
a
lot
of
ways
like
a
more
custom
user
interface
would
make
sense.
But
there
is
going
to
be
a
more
generic
user
interface.
C
That
will
be
user
friendly,
but
it's
going
to
be
a
little
bit,
probably
leaning
on
the
side
of
like
catering
to
like
web3
audience
and
users,
but
yeah
I
mean
like
that's,
that's
something
that
I'm
very
much
interested
in
working
with
other
projects
on
and
exploring,
especially
in
relation
to
kind
of
setting
up
what
that
would
look
like
for
their
projects.
C
If
that
group
existed
on
regen,
Ledger
and
I've
actually
started
kind
of
like
a
side
project
exploration
of
like
what
an
interface
might
look
like
with
a
particular
set
of
like
decision
policies
associated
with
specific
functionality
and
and
like
this,
is
something
that
we're
exploring
and
I'm
I'm
in
very
interested
in
other
projects
that
have
ideas
around
use
cases
and
things
like
that
and
kind
of
helping
them
develop.
C
What
or
design
what
a
user
interface
would
look
like
for
their
needs,
because
it's
easy
to
add
a
bunch
of
complexity
and
like
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we
want
to
avoid
like,
especially
if
this
group
doesn't
need
the
functionality
of
Treasury
management.
Maybe
there's
like
a
simple
like
voting
application
that
someone
wants
to
build.
C
There's
there's,
maybe
maybe
there's
a
complex
group
that
wants
to
manage,
like
Eco
credit
assets
and
how
those
assets
be
transferable
across
chains
and
moved
across
chains,
and
the
group
is
managing
the
execution
of
those
messages
and
that's
like
one
much
more
complex
view
of
what
that
might
look
like
so
I
I.
Think
in
a
lot
of
ways
like
we're
kind
of
at
this
point
where
it's
like
the
tools
are
available
and
there's
a
real
big
opportunity
now
to
kind
of
explore.
C
What
that
would
look
like
and
taking,
for
example,
real
world
use
cases
I
think,
is
something
that
is
some
is
worth
like
emphasizing
here
in
terms
of
like
not
trying
to
develop
out
some
overly
complicated
web3,
specific
user
interface
or
tool,
but
meeting
meeting
these
existing
governance
bodies,
where
they're
at
currently
and
kind
of
developing
and
Catering
the
group
module
as
like
the
underlying
tool
to
support
their
needs.
A
Great
and
thank
you
well,
you've
been
quite
patient.
Well,
did
you
have
a
question
about
any
of
the
regional
Ledger
5.0
update.
G
A
G
Just
what
what
he
was
standing
says?
Really,
it
sounds
really
cool
and
so
overall
alive
which
I'm
a
part
of
like
the
idea
is
crowdfund
and
endowment.
That
goes
for
a
certain
application.
You
know
like
regenerate
watersheds
and
wetlands
in
a
certain
area
and
I
think
that
is
real
world
application
that
anyway,
that's
just
what
comes
to
mind
so
yeah.
It
sounds
really
useful,
although
I
don't
know
how
to
go
about
designing
this
custom
interface.
C
Yeah
and
I
mean
the
the
there
is
a
little
bit
of
a
development
hurdle
there
and
I
think
one
I,
yeah
I,
think
one
thing
to
look
out
for
is
potentially
one
the
UI
that
will
be
a
more
generic
UI
that
might
not
be
specific
to
your
Project's
needs,
but
also
some
a
little
bit
of
work
like
I,
guess
the
the
encyclopedia
or
Wikipedia
that
the
foundation's
working
on
I've
also
been
collaborating
with
someone
on
our
registry
team
in
terms
of
what
that
would
look
like
what
different
Frameworks
might
look
like
for
project
developers
versus
like
credit
classes
and
and
kind
of
trying
to
build
out
some
ideas
around
templates
around
like
what
different
ways
of
organizing
and
using
the
group
module
would
look
like
so
yeah,
I,
I,
I'm,
hoping
to
get
past
the
complexity
and
I
think
I.
C
Think
the
the
first
step
would
just
really
just
be
getting
familiar
with
what
functionality
is
available
and
thinking
about
like
what
structure
you
look,
governance
structure,
you
would
want
like
how
many
members
do
you
have?
Are
there
certain
decision,
policies
that
are
associated
with
specific
actions?
C
Or
do
you
just
have
one
single
decision
policy
that
all
members
that
that
determines
the
the
outcome
of
all
actions
of
the
group
so
I'd
be
happy
to
think
and
talk
through
any
of
those
ideas,
but
yeah
there's
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
hurdle
in
terms
of
like
a
UI
there's,
not
a
one-size-fits-all
solution
for
a
UI
for
the
group
module.
A
B
Yeah
I
mean
this
is
super,
exciting
and
I
think
this
was
a
great
pairing
that
we
ended
up
talking
about
the
evolution
of
the
groups
and
the
front
end
of
groups
and
customizing
it
after
talking
about
Chamas,
so
always
nice
to
see
that
there's
actually
from
the
technical
side
in
the
applied
side,
like
a
lot
of
overlap,
Ryan
your
last
comment
being
like
well:
well,
there
shouldn't
be
one
single
UI,
it's
a
complex
thing.
B
It's
like
yes,
exactly
I
feel
like
it's
really
exciting,
to
think
about
the
the
customization
of
it
and
how
to
proliferate.
That
customization,
like
pluralism,
is
the
goal
and
either
it's
going
to
be
so
many
biases
baked
into
whatever
we
whatever
it
is
built
that
it
will
work
for
some
and
not
for
all
and
I'm
curious.
B
If,
if
it
would
be
helpful
because
the
like
managing
a
treasury
managing
the
contents
of
a
wallet
and
doing
things
with
it
is
one
is,
you
know
a
very
clear
set
of
like
sort
of
financial
protocols
that
can
be
governed
via
groups
and
I'm
curious
how
we
could
play
with
groups
to
do
decisions
that
might
not
necessarily
be
like
programmatically
enforceable.
Like
now.
B
Code
is
law
now
it's
happening,
but
that,
like
a
slack
on
the
Discord,
could
play
around
with
groups
to
make
the
decision
around
if
they
want
to
go
to
the
grocery
store
on
Friday
or
Saturday
or
simple
decisions
that
just
get
it
kind
of
in
the
field,
because
I
feel
like
oftentimes.
It's
application
to
how
to
receive
and
transmit
from
a
treasury
or
a
wallet
is
a
stumping.
C
Yeah
I
I
think
that's
a
really
good
point
and
I
mean
submitting
a
proposal
in
a
group
doesn't
require
a
SDK
message
or
like
blockchain
message
to
be
attached
to
it.
C
You
can
submit
any
arbitrary
proposal
without
any
messages
attached
to
it
that
won't
perform
any
sort
of
action
on
chain
other
than
like
demonstrating
how
the
the
group
that
outcome
of
the
the
voting
process,
so
yeah
I
I,
think
you're
you're
spot
on
in
terms
of
how
what
it
might
look
like
for
an
initial
approach
or
initial,
like
experimentation
with
the
group
module,
if
you're
looking
to
implement
in
some
ways
like
being
able
to
submit
a
proposal
and
and
determining
what
the
the
decision
policy
The
Proposal
is,
whether
it's
percentages
or
a
threshold
and
and
just
yeah
doing
things
that
are
not
necessarily
Resource
Management.
A
H
You
hi
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
Dave
that
we
connect
Captain,
Obvious
work
and
I'm.
Sorry,
I,
don't
know
if
I
got
your
name
in
the
beginning.
Naomi
was
that
right.
D
H
Oh
I
was
completely
off
so
to
the
social
working
group
under
bxc,
because
it's
about
language
and
messaging,
so
Naomi
I
feel
like.
If
you
see
a
message
from
me
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
heads
up
is
that
okay.
A
Yeah
yeah
thanks
for
yeah,
thanks
for
flagging,
that's
a
good
flag.
H
And
I
I
have
a
very
quick
anecdote
because
in
2015
that's
ages
ago,
in
crypto
I
was
part
of
a
of
a
group
that
proposed
using
tauntings,
which
is
in
concept
similar,
an
informal
structure
in
Africa
to
to
shamas
to
record
the
transactions
and
build
credit
history.
So
I'm
super
happy
to
see
these.
These
Concepts
still
being
pursued
and
the
tools
are
getting
better
and
that
is
is
all
fantastic.
H
A
Ed,
you've
been
patient,
you
have
a
question
and
then
well
and
then
I'll
tie
us
up.
F
Regenerative
way
that
we
look
at
her
in
agriculture
has
the
five
principles
of
soil,
Health,
Plus
context
and
I
think
that's
what
the
global
movement
is
having
a
hard
time,
understanding
that
farmers
have
always
worked
together
in
their
area,
they've
done
it
in
different
ways,
different
names
of
what
they
name
it,
but
they've
always
been
really
good
at
working
together,
and
that
seems
to
be
just
missed
in
the
in
the
bigger
picture.
In
the
same
way
that
recently
and
I've
noticed
it.
F
Even
I
noticed
that
at
cop
I
noticed
that
the
biodiversity
con
Summit
and
now
at
the
wef
there's
lots
of
regeneratives
has
become
really
popular
as
a
term,
but
it
seems
like
nobody
understands
where
it
came
from
what
it
means.
What
it
connects.
I've
read
a
lot
of
posts
recently
by
the
big
Global
support
ad
groups
and
stuff,
saying
that
you
know
we
have
regenerative
agriculture,
but
it
has
no
definition.
We
don't
know
how
it
works.
F
So
I
think
you
know
the
whole
region
concept
we're
going
to
have
to
try
to
shore
up
a
bit
before
it
gets
changed
too
much,
and
so
that
people
really
understand
what's
at
the
root
of
it,
whether
it
be
in
agriculture
or
now
I'm,
hearing
I
heard
from
WF
EF
the
other
day,
a
regenerative
organizations
what
that
means-
I
don't
know,
but
it
seems
like
regenerative
is
everywhere
now
and
but
we're
gonna
have
to
try
to
get
the
right
ideas
out
to
people
and
encourage
people
to
connect
with
the
people
that
have
really
worked
and
developed
it
over
the
years.
G
There's
a
topic
that
I
guess
we
didn't
get
to
and
and
that's
cool,
because
I
really
enjoyed
the
conversation
that
the
cosmo
zero
campaign
is
meant
to
clean
up
our
own
mess
like
like
the
POS
blockchains
that
we
use
are
very
efficient,
but
there's
still
carbon
emissions
footprint
and
so
Cosmos
hero
is
a
way
for
blockchains
to
offset
that
and
there's
a
discussion.
G
That's
been
started
in
the
stargaze
community
about
how
best
to
do
that
and
I
would
encourage
y'all
to
get
involved,
and
it's
not
just
stargaze,
but
that
discussion
is
one
that
I'm
a
part
of
and
there's
a
few
questions
that
need
to
be
considered
and
so
like,
for
example
like.
If
a
protocol
wants
to
offset
it's
emissions
footprint,
do
they
need
to
do
that
for
the
the
active
validator
set,
or
do
they
need
to
do
that
for
the
the
extraneous
ones
like
the
ones
beyond
the
active
validator
set
and
I?
G
Don't
know
that
answer
and
yeah.
We
have
options
in
terms
of
like
the
NCT
and
the
City
forest
credits
too,
and
so
I
would
just
encourage
people
to
pay
attention
and
get
involved
in
that
discussion
because,
like
the
way
protocols
have
been
offsetting
now
is
anyway.
We
just
need
to
get
more
sophisticated
about
cleaning
up
our
own
mesh
because
we
can't
say
that
we're
refi,
if
we
can't
even
do
that.
Thank
you.
Yeah.
A
Thanks
well
I
appreciate
that
that
was
going
to
be
my
last
comment,
just
to
kind
of
pull
us
together,
topically
on
closing
out
with
Cosmos
zero
I.
Just
want
to
you
know,
give
you
a
quick
update.
The
the
campaigns
are
very,
very
alive,
very
active.
It's
actually,
you
know
I
think.
As
we
showed
a
little
bit
last
week,
there
has
been
some
blowback
we've
had
to
deal
with.
You
know
just
some
communities
who
have
either
small
community
pools
or
their
tokens
are
especially
have
been
especially
suffered.
A
A
fair
amount
of
depreciation,
or
you
know
a
token
price
has
gone
down.
Quite
a
bit
have
have
hesitated
to
move
forward,
and
so
there's
been
some
really
interesting
learning
lessons
one.
You
know.
As
always,
this
is
Cosmos.
All
chains
are
independent,
they
have
their
own
unique
needs.
D
A
Voices
so
a
lot
of
respect,
for
you
know
each
Chain's
ability
to
to
set
its
own
course.
That's
just
a
general
rule,
but
yeah.
So
the
you
know
the
ones
that
really
recently
failed
were
around
agoric,
Akash
and
Juno,
although
I
know
at
least
two
of
those
are
interested
in
bringing
the
proposal
back
when
the
markets
have
recovered
a
little
bit.
A
We
also
have
had
a
passage
recently
of
over
at
gravity
Bridge.
So
big
shout
out
to
the
gravity
Bridge
Community
who
passed
that
proposal
and
you
know
an
interesting
thing
being
considered.
There
is
for
obvious
reasons.
It
is
you
know.
Gravity's
token
is
you
know,
is
not
you
know
it
is
you
know
below
Ascent
or
in
that
range?
A
We've
been
talking
with
them
at
lower
Labs
as
the
proposer
of
the
the
proposal
that
passed,
as
well
as
to
the
r
d
team,
where
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
r
d,
ending
up
staking
the
tokens
from
the
sale
of
that
NCT
in
good
faith
and
keeping
you
know
becoming
a
participant
in
that
Network
helping
secure
the
network
and
also
also
not
putting
downward
pressure
on
the
token
itself,
while
at
the
same
time
creating
space
for
Gravity
bridge
to
become
carbon
neutral
with
the
retirement
of
NCT.
A
That
will
go
online
here.
I
think
we're
close
to
a
week
out
from
the
a
bridge
being
live
between
polygon
and
regen
Network,
which
will
then
allow
for
some
of
these
proposals
that
have
passed
to
be
fully
executed
with
the
purchase
and
retirement,
oven,
NCT
and
the
underlying
credits
that
make
up
those
baskets.
So
there
is
are.
There
are
also
active
discussions,
as
we'll
mentioned
over
in
stargaze.
A
Injective
is
actively
discussing,
and
we
expect
that
there'll
be
some
more
coming
online
as
well,
which
we
are
optimistic
for
passage,
but
it
has
been.
You
know
it's
been
a
really
good
learning
time
for
us.
You
know,
obviously
down
markets,
make
everything
a
little
bit
tougher,
but
just
you
know
having
the
community
dialogues
across
multiple
chains.
At
the
same
time,
around.
D
A
Complex
topic
that
you
know
as
I
think
we've
learned
over
and
over
again
that
carbon
markets,
carbon
credits,
are
not
easily
understood.
They
are
opaque.
They
have
experienced
a
fair
amount
of
bad
press
for
quite
some
time
and
for
oftentimes
for
good
reason
and
I.
A
Think
as
we
as
a
regen
Community,
continue
to
step
forward
using
the
technology,
stack
the
philosophy
and
principles
of
regeneration
to
develop
and
originate
High
and
Integrity
ecological
credits
and
develop
a
market
to
support
those
I
think
it
just
re-emphasizes
the
need
to
do
that
and
to
you
know
that
we're
in
a
long
game
here
of
yeah,
really
bringing
awareness
and,
and
also
you
know,
just
the
level
of
Integrity
to
ecological
assets.
A
That
I
think
have
suffered
from
a
reputational
damage
for
a
number
of
years
that
I'm
really
excited
for
the
regen
Community
to
help
turn
the
tide
on
that.
So
with
all
that
said,
I
want
to
thank
everyone
for
being
here
today.
It
is
Thursday,
it
is
901
a.m,
Pacific
time
and
really
grateful
to
spend
the
morning
with,
you
appreciate
all
of
your
work
and
very
grateful.
Just
a
reminder.
A
You
know,
which
is
run
by
our
colleague,
pranav,
very
exciting
campaign
to
help
to
support
and
activate
around
some
of
the
climate
movement
building
in
the
global
South,
and
we
will
see
you
a
week
from
today
and
report
back
on
some
other
exciting
news
related
to
launch
of
the
blockchain
times,
climate
leadership
Network
what
happened
in
Davos
and
get
updates
across
the
ecosystem.
So
with
all
that
said,
thank
you.
Everybody
have
a
great
rest
of
your
week
very
grateful
for
all
of
you
be
well.