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A
Everybody
thanks
for
coming
out
to
the
work
session.
We've
got
a
written
briefing
on
the
funding,
our
future
sales
tax
increase
in
general
obligation
bond
the
are
there
any
questions,
councilmember
comments
we
need
to
dig
into,
or
can
we
move
on?
I'll.
Take
your
silence
to
mean
we're.
Moving
on
to
item
2
on
our
agenda,
the
previous
year's
legislative,
intense
and
interim
study
items.
We've
got
the
wonderful
Allison
Rowland,
very
capable
of
telling
us
about
all
the
legislative
intent
that
we
have
issued
over
time
and
eternity,
and
that
is
how
many.
B
A
B
B
So
our
idea
for
the
purposes
of
time,
was
not
to
go
through
each
item
but
rather
focus
on
where
council
members
have
questions
that
the
three
options
we
recommend
are
either
depending
on
on
whether
on
how
a
department
may
have
responded
to
the
questions
are
to
leave
an
item
open
or
to
close
an
item
and
between
it
in
the
close
category
we
have
closed
and
continue
or
close
and
complete.
So
those
are
the
three
options
we've
suggested.
B
There
are
several
suggestions
for
potential
straw
polls
going
through
the
the
document,
but
really
we're
open
to
your
suggestions.
Asking
for
some
guidance
here
and
most
of
the
department
chairs
were
able
to
be
here.
Department
director
were
able
to
be
here
so
that
they
can
respond
to
any
questions
you
may
have
as
well
great.
A
Councilmembers
I'm
not
sure
if
you
have
specific
ones,
I'd
like
to
just
read
the
short
title
of
these
and
then,
if
there's,
you
can
look
at
the
staff
status
assessment
and
speak
up.
If
you
want
to
amend,
what's
written
here
in
our
staff
report
or
endorse
it.
So
the
first
one
is
the
Gulf
Enterprise
Fund
assessment
to
consider
closing
it
and
I
do
like
the
staffs
suggestion
that
we
ask
the
administration
to
provide
additional
information
about
why
it
opted
not
to
pursue
an
RFP
for
management
of
the
Gulf
system.
A
B
The
original
legislative
intent
referred
specifically
to
asking
the
administration
to
do
an
RFP
and
that
that
was
later
amended
by
the
council
to
an
RFI.
So,
as
you
know,
the
administration
did
complete
that
process,
but
some
council
members
have
expressed
interest
in
getting
a
little
more
information,
keeping
in
mind
that
the
actual
content
of
individual
and
responses
is
a
group
it's
confidential.
But
but
some
council
members
have
suggested
that
it
might
be
good
to
have
a
little
more
information
from
the
administration
on
on
the
rationale
beats
behind
their
decision.
So
do.
A
Okay,
then
we'll
move
on
more
golf
discussions
to
be
had
and
looks
like
we'll
be
closing
the
RFI
legislative
intent,
citywide
ims,
projects,
four
constituent
relationship
management,
the
c
RM
and
document
management
recommendation
to
close
that
one
out
anything
council.
Okay,
thank
you
see
is
the
six-month
review
for
council
added
or
identified
items.
A
B
B
C
I
would
like
an
update
from
the
admin,
whether
we
keep
it
open
or
closed.
It
I
think
when
we
funded
this
I
guess
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
and
just
a
year
ago
was
it.
Just
year
ago
it
was
always
contemplated
to
be
a
temporary
solution,
so
I,
whether
we
open
or
closed
I,
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
an
opportunity
to
get
some
additional
information
from
the
admin
on
successes
failures
and
when
you
know
how
they
imagine
the
future
of
this
median
to
to
play
out.
Okay,.
A
Reminding
and
then
we're
into
fiscal
year,
17
there's
three
more
pages
of
this.
Is
there
anything
in
the
17?
You
guys
want
to
talk
about
or
change
from
the
staff
status
assessment,
I'm
sure
Andrew
Johnston
would
appreciate
the
metrics
and
reporting
remaining
open
maintenance
at
City
facilities
and
public
services
is
obviously
an
ongoing
conversation,
that's
open
and
then
we've
got
16
just
one
with
the
building
permit
fee
cost
study.
We
haven't
had
an
update
in.
A
E
A
I
have
a
motion
by
councilmember
Luke
to
enter
into
a
closed
session.
Second
by
councilmember,
Fowler,
roll
call,
council,
member
kitchen,
yes
Wharton,
Fowler,
obviously,
and
Luke
yes
and
I'm.
A
yes,
and
so
with
that
we're
gonna
go
into
probably
a
30
minute
closed
session.
So
don't
set
your
camera
up
yet
and
we
will
jump
right
back
in
with
unresolved
issues
when
we
return
should
be
right
on
time
at
4:15
for
unresolved
issues.
F
F
F
F
F
F
G
A
A
G
Really
aren't
a
few
updates,
maybe
from
last
week,
if
that's
an
okay
place
to
start,
maybe
I'll
first
start
with
the
good
news,
which
is
that,
in
the
sort
of
finalization
of
the
new
growth
property
tax
estimate,
there
was
an
additional
two
hundred
and
seventy
two
sorry,
two
hundred
forty
two
thousand
seven
hundred
seventy
three
in
new
growth
that
was
identified
by
the
state
tax
commission.
That
was
on
top
of
what
the
council
had
to
consider
last
week.
So
we've
included
that
and
the
top
sort
of
the
top
of
this
chart.
G
That
was
also
in
your
unresolved
issues,
staff
report,
so
that
that
chart
that's
in
your
staff
report.
The
only
things
that
were
funded
from
last
week
are
the
things
in
yellow.
So
if
you
wanted
to
go
through
and
decide
how
to
allocate
that
to
242,000,
I
will
note
that
on
the
bottom,
that
that
thing
in
yellow
shows
that
the
council's
drop
hold
using
83,000
of
fund
balance.
So
you
could
back
that
out.
If
you
wanted
and
then
fund
from
the
rest
or
approach
it.
However
else
so,.
I
Members,
madam
chair,
madam
chair,
given
that
we
have
luckily
found
some
more
money
from
the
state
or
new
growth
I
would
ask
that
we
consider
funding.
If
we
look
at
the
table,
can
you
go
up
just
a
little
bit?
Thank
you
here.
No
items
12
and
13
on
the
table,
which
is
the
community
health
care
paramedic
and
the
public
education,
specialist
and
Jen.
You
I
think
we
had
some
additional
numbers
that
were
slightly
different
from
what
we
had
been
given
by
when
we
were
originally
discussing
this.
G
Members
had
asked
me
if
we
planned
on
hiring
these
positions
later
in
the
year,
as
is
done
for
some
of
the
other
new
positions
that
are
being
added
to
the
budget.
There's
the
sort
of
ramp
up
period
that
always
occurs
when
a
new,
either
program
or
position,
is
added
to
the
budget,
which
is
a
one-time
savings,
but
it's
worth
considering.
So
if
you
funded
those
position
at
positions
as
of
October
1st,
the
cost
would
be
for
both
of
them,
one
hundred
and
fifty
three
thousand
seven.
Fifty.
G
If
you
funded
them
as
of
September,
it
would
be
one
hundred
and
seventy
thousand
833.
So
the
question
was:
would
that
fit?
If
you
backed
out
the
fund
balance?
Would
that
fit
in
the
remainder
and
it
would
fit
in
the
remainder
if
you
funded
them
as
of
October?
That
was
the
question
that
was
asked
and.
I
So,
based
on
that
information,
my
motion,
I
guess,
would
be
to
fund
those
two
positions
as
of
October
1st
and
then
I.
Think
if
I
did
my
mouth
right
but
I'll
leave
it
to
Jen
to
be
the
math
person
in
charge
that
would
leave
hold.
Please
gotta
get
to
my
math,
a
almost
six
thousand
dollars.
That
I
would
suggest
we
put
back
to
the
fund
balance.
D
You,
madam
chair
I'm,
very
supportive
of
this
I,
think
it's
a
creative
way
to
accomplish
the
fire
department's
objectives
and
I
think
by
having
October's
the
hiring
time
that
gives
them
some
time
to
ramp
up
sand
and
figure
that
position
out
and
advertise
for
it.
So
I
am
fully
supportive
and
I'll
appreciate
it.
Amy
for
working
on
this.
G
We
wouldn't
have
known
this
sort
of
mistake
and
the
rate
setting
process
when
the
mayor
recommended
her
budget,
so
the
mayor's
recommended
budget
actually
includes
that
full
new
growth
amount
last
year
as
if
the
rate
was
set
correctly,
and
so,
if
the
council
doesn't
want
to
pursue
stabilization,
the
council
would
have
to
find
that
offsetting
cut
in
expenses.
So
those
are
the
options.
A
G
Council
may
be
a
different
way
to
answer
it
and
I.
Don't
know
if
this
is
the
question
you're
asking,
but
the
council
would
have
to
have
a
truth
in
taxation
hearing
in
August
anyway
with
because
the
council
is
doing
a
judgement
levy.
The
mayor
proposed
and
the
council
is
doing
a
judgement
levy
which
triggers
that
truth
and
Taxation
need.
So
if
the
council
decided
to
do
truth
in
taxation
and
set
that
rate
to
the
correct
amount,
it
would
basically
just
increase
what
was
noticed
for
the
truth
and
taxation
hearing.
H
H
H
H
What
we
need
to
do
and
our
fund
balance
I
mean
we
actually
decreased
it
even
if
we
had
this
to
replace
what
we
decreased
last
week
and
the
rest
of
this
I
think
she
as
much
as
possible
go
to
fund
balance,
but
that
would
be
my
pitch
I
I
hesitate
to
add
in
other
things,
when
we
are,
fundamentals
are
still
so
flawed.
Oh.
I
G
H
It's
to
still
go
back
to,
we
funded
the
census
out
of
the
tax
rate
of
the
tax
increase,
and
we
were
very
clear
before
about
not
doing
those
kind
of
things
and
we
did
it
and
I
get
it.
But
if
we
have
extra
money,
why
shouldn't
we
go
back
and
look
at
it?
That
way
went
out
of
the
regular
budget
out
of
them
rather
than
the
tax
increase.
J
A
A
I'm
trying
to
think
this
through,
we
could
leave
fund
balance
at
a
deficit
and
instead
of
taking
any
money
from
the
four
hundred
thousand
of
that
component
of
the
hand,
sales
tax
proposal,
we
could
leave
that
hole
and
fund
with
the
new
growth
money.
They
sense
his
position.
Eighty
thousand,
so
it
boils
down
to
are
you
more
comfortable
taking
from
fund
balance
or
the
sales
tax
which
we've
clearly
defined?
And
here
we
are
I.
H
A
We
would
do
with
the
sales
tax
dollars,
then
we're
accepting
that
we're
dipping
into
the
fund
balance.
I
still
think
it's
a
pretty
minimal
amount
of
dip
into
fund
balance
and
for
the
cost
of
oh
look
man,
you
gotta,
weigh
your
values.
Here
is
this
about
staying
more
true
to
what
we
said:
we'd
do
with
sales
tax,
or
is
it
about
keeping
our
fund
balance
dip
lower
and
you
got
to
choose
one
or
the
other.
So
that's
my
friendly!
So.
D
D
A
H
Like
the
the
choice
between
fund
balance
or
that
I
think
that's
a
false
choice,
I
think
my
priorities,
at
least
for
me,
are
I,
want
to
make
sure
we
keep
that
sales
tax
as
much
as
possible.
One
together,
I,
think,
fund,
balance
and
parks
are
two
major
issues:
they're
just
not
addressed
period,
and
so,
if
I
had
my
choice
about
any
new
revenue,
that's
200
coming
and
that's
where
I
would
say.
I
would
say
those
two,
that's
sort
of
my
fundamental
choice
for
me.
D
H
A
E
A
D
Last
week,
I
ended
up
getting
comfortable
with
it.
I'm
fine
going
back,
but
you
know
you
know
having
having
a
positive
fund
balance
amount
I
get
why
that
would
be
important
rather
than
decreasing
it,
but
I
think
we're
arguing
over
I.
Don't
know
what
we're
really
arguing.
I'll
support,
whatever,
let's
just
move,
let's
strap
hole,
either
the
amended
version,
or
this
version
I
just
want
to
have
the
fire
positions
funded.
We.
I
Honestly
I
was
putting
some
money
into
the
fund
balance
because
I
I
agree
that
we
need
a
ring
to
maintain
something
there,
but
I
don't
know
that
I
can
make
Andrew
happy
on
this
at
all.
So
I
kind
of
I'm
kind
of
at
a
kind
of
indifferent
I
mean
I,
would
vote
for
either
version
at
this
point
so
Aaron
I
agree.
Your
motion
was
the
last
friendly
amendment.
I,
don't
know.
If
there's
my.
G
B
B
G
F
A
G
So
then
the
next
trap
hole
would
be
the
stabilization
question.
If
the
council's
comfortable
setting
the
rate
it
would
be,
it
would
be,
it
would
be
no
change
to
the
key
changes,
because
the
revenue
and
expenses
are
already
assumed,
but
it
would
be
directing
staff
to
prepare
the
rates
that
include
that.
G
So
it
would,
it
wouldn't
affect
the
proposed
budget
it
wouldn't
affect.
He
changes,
because
the
mayor's
recommend
a
budget
included
that
amount
as
if
it
was
happening,
but
it
would
direct
staff
to
adjust
the
rates
to
reflect
that,
so
it
would
be
the
same
as
as
the
council
has
done
in
previous
years,
of
setting
the
rate
to
receive
the
same
amount
of
property
tax
revenue
next
year
that
was
received
this
year.
It's
called
property
tax,
stabilization.
B
G
H
H
G
The
challenge
is
that
then
it
wouldn't
be
guaranteeing
those
funds
in
the
future
which,
depending
on
your
point
of
view,
is
okay,
so
setting
the
property
tax
rate
means
that
is
the
new
watermark
for
the
city's
property
tax
revenue
and
the
truth
in
taxation
means
that
you'll
never
go
below
that
watermark.
So
you
could
fund
it
through
fund
balance.
So.
H
H
A
B
A
A
C
H
We
had
200
thousand,
there
were
new
revenue
we
had
allocated
today
and
we
decided
that's.
My
concern
is
that
we,
this
was
also
on
the
table
and
this
is
on
table
and
we
separated
him
out
as
soon
we
had
to
do
that
stabilization,
which
we
do
to
some
extent
we're
gonna
balance.
The
budget
I
mean
if
we're
not
gonna,
be
cots.
We
have
to
do
the
stabilization,
but
then
there's
plenty
of
other
things
on
the
unresolved
lists.
The
word
desires
our
needs
valid
issues.
We
needed
from
the
Ambassador
Program
to
everything
else.
H
A
One
thing
you
could
have
done
is
in
this
budget
process,
in
anticipation
of
the
potential
of
less
revenue
than
we
were
projecting
the
council
could
have
said.
This
is
where
we
will
cut
here's
our
priority,
and
this
is
our
wink
at
weakest
link.
We
could
have
stop
hold
that
before
today
and
prepared
ourselves
to
deal
with
the
priorities
and
we
didn't-
and
nobody
offered
that
and
that's
been
an
opportunity.
A
So
if
next
year,
in
the
budget
process,
council
members
feel
this
way
leading
with
this
memory
in
our
minds,
you
can
look
at
the
budget
that
way
and
you
can
start
proposing
where
those
cuts
will
happen
from
but
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
long,
six-week
process
that
we
go
through
to
finalize
a
budget
and
we're
a
couple
hours
from
doing
that
now.
So
it's
it's
difficult
without
having
those
conversations
beforehand.
G
Yeah,
so
the
big
document
is
important
to
go
through,
but
a
couple
of
the
sort
of
placeholders,
the
green
in
this
sort
of
Rasta
color
scenario
are
the
legislative,
intense
and
contingent
appropriations
and
those
are
actually
in
your
unresolved
issues.
Staff
report,
so
we've
just
literally
collected
all
of
the
ideas
that
have
been
suggested
or
mentioned
for
legislative,
intense
or
contingent
appropriations
so
they're
on
pages,
2,
&
3
of
your
unresolved
issue
staff
report.
G
If
you
want,
we
can
go
through
all
of
them
individually
or
we
can
have
silent
reading
time
and
you
can
read
all
of
them
and
suggest
if
there's
any
language
edits
or
if
there
are
any
legislative
intent
or
contingent
appropriations
that
the
council's
not
comfortable
with.
If
we
don't
hear
any
changes,
our
plan
is
to
take
this
list,
these
lists
and
put
them
onto
the
motion
sheet
in
the
places
where
it
says
insert
from
unresolved
issue
staff
report.
So
maybe
once
we
go
through
those,
then
we
can
walk
through
the
actual
motion
sheet.
G
Many
so
one
by
one
of
the
legislative
intense,
which
is
actually
on
the
unresolved
issues,
staff
report
just
to
make
sure
that
we've
got
the
language
okay
and
then
we'll
go
through
the
motion
sheet,
because
the
legislative
intense
will
inform
what
up
on
the
motion
sheet.
Does
that
make
sense?
Okay,.
A
G
If
you
would
like,
we
can
do
one
by
one
or
we
could
do
it
as
a
group.
What
I
was
explaining
is
that
we've
collected
them
all
based
on
comments,
and
so
we
haven't
necessarily
you.
The
council
hasn't
necessarily
straw
polled
each
of
these,
as
we've
been
going,
and
so
staff
just
wanted
to
get
kind
of
a
final
sign-off
before
you
saw
them
on
your
motion
sheet
at
7:00.
A
Great
there's
the
13
yep.
A
E
I'm,
sorry,
just
a
procedural
thing
and
it'll
make
your
life
easier,
not
worse,
and
that
is
that
when
you're
an
RDA,
you
need
to
do
your
motions
and
seconds
and
the
formal
vote
in
the
formal
meeting.
You
also
need
to
do
that,
but
in
this
committee
of
the
whole
format
you
can
just
propose
a
straw
poll
if
you're
called
on
by
the
chair,
you
don't
need
to
make
a
motion.
E
A
E
J
J
A
J
G
I
A
Could
I
jump
in
here
that
the
mayor
and
Chief
of
Police
attended
Liberty
Wells
Community
Council?
Maybe
six
months
ago,
a
long
time
ago,
around
concerns
around
Liberty,
Park
I
was
in
the
audience,
and
the
administration
committed
to
working
with
the
three
community
councils
that
surround
Liberty,
Park,
Central,
City,
Elko
and
Liberty
wells
to
try
to
come
up
with
community
generated
proposals
that
the
administration
could
consider
for
improving
the
kalt.
The
experience
in
the
park,
the
quality
of
life
in
the
park.
A
I
know
that
that
process
has
been
happening
and
that
the
administration
has
a
contract
with
data
seed
to
work
with
communities
around
that
and
I
understanding,
as
a
survey
happened
out
in
the
community
and
that
the
administration
is
working
on
some
concept
or
that
could
perhaps
be
piloted
in
the
park,
but
really
for
implementation
around
HRC's.
Eventually.
So
I
think
this
has
been
in
the
works
and
okay.
H
H
The
reason
the
ambassadors
are
set
up
to
help
businesses
downtown
to
make
referrals
to
other
existing
agencies.
They
don't
they
don't
actually
house
people,
they
don't
actually
sort
of
move
them
the
kind
of
thing
and
so
the
putting
a
bathroom
in
here
something
similar.
Maybe
it
just
doesn't
sort
of
fit
very
well.
The
intent
is
right,
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
things
going
on
that
way
and
should
happen
that
way.
But
that's
why
I
get
concerned
about
the
intent
language
here.
A
F
H
That
it
should
be
creating
problems
to
address
yeah,
I,
think
making
it
open
so
that
it's
flexible
to
figure
out
what
the
right
option
is.
I,
think
anything's
similar,
then
I'll
be
blunt.
Anything
similar
to
the
downtown
ambassadors
means
people
go
out
and
see
a
homeless
person
and
move
them.
It's
that
make
sense,
it'd
be
nice
if
we
had
a
ability
to
have
service
providers
who
are
already
doing
it,
brought
into
the
conversation
about.
H
B
H
J
A
H
J
A
A
J
Okay,
Adam
chair
I
propose
that
we
adopt
the
intent
language
in
number,
eight
regarding
surplus
land
inventory
and.
H
H
J
H
J
A
J
J
G
E
As
you're
going
through
the
budget
process,
everything
else
in
the
city
is
still
moving
forward.
Of
course,
and
our
IMS
director
was
continuing
to
work
on
the
security
issue
and
had
a
nice
opportunity
come
up
where
we're
the
same
dollar
amount
you
could?
You
can
begin
to
go
onto
a
program
where
you
are?
Is
a
multiple
year
program,
so
you'll
be
paying
each
year?
E
I
don't
know
if
the
subscript
is
the
right
word,
but
it
would
enable
the
city
to
address
in
a
much
more
comprehensive
way
the
security
issues
that
the
council
was
worried
about
in
the
briefing
with
the
director
daily.
So
so,
instead
of
having
a
conversation
each
year
about,
should
we
buy
the
server's
this
year
or
should
we
buy
this
piece
or
that
piece?
It's
a
comprehensive
package
that
could
be
installed
with
the
city
up
front,
and
then
you
pay
the
annual
cost
so
I
lettered.
E
G
I
think
we
would
likely
clarify
the
title
and
the
key
changes.
If
the
council
was
okay
with
it,
we
could
clarify
the
title
and
the
key
changes
document
now
and
save
the
administration
from
having
to
come
back
and
a
budget
amendment
to
turn
a
one-time
funding
source
into
an
ongoing
funding
source.
Is
that
another
way
to
kind.
E
G
A
A
G
So
I'll
just
I'll
speak
a
little
bit
to
why
the
funding
our
future
is
sort
of
in
different
places
and
I
apologize.
If
this
approach
makes
it
more
confusing,
we
went
back
and
forth
a
staff
many
times
to
try
and
think
about
what
made
sense.
We
have
all
the
legislative
intents
to
gether
and
all
the
contingent
appropriations
together,
and
that
means
that
funding
our
future
and
those
kinds
of
things
are
kind
of
sprinkled
in
different
places.
There
is
one
section,
that's
a
conditional
appropriation
and
that
will
be
its
own
motion
about
funding
our
future.
G
That
has
a
laundry
list
of
things.
That's
in
that
next
section
under
number
13,
so
we
we
could
have
approached
it
differently,
but
we
went
back
and
forth
and
misses
where
we
landed,
and
so
my
apologies,
if
that's
more
confusing,
but
so
this
is
a
funding,
our
future
related
legislative
intent.
It
happens
to
relate
to
housing.
The
next
one
is
a
funding,
our
future
legislative
intent.
That
happened
relates
to
the
fire
department.
J
A
And
I
guess:
I
had
a
question
on
the
public
safety
category
of
the
funding
our
future.
Does
that
mean
that
it
could
be
there
the
funding
allocation
could
be
expanded
or
that
within
the
existing
I
know
that
we're
looking
at
not
nine
months
but
twelve
months
there
so
I
guess
I'm
wondering
about
the
definition
or
the
financing
itself.
Councilmember
Fowler,
please
I.
C
I
For
me,
and
what
we
kind
of
just
I
think
may
kind
of
come
from
some
of
the
things
I've
talked
about
throughout
the
budget
meetings
and
I
I.
Think
it's
more
of
just
a
definition
of
what
public
safety
means
is
that
expanding
that
I
know
that
madam
chair
you've
brought
up
some
ideas
of
that
have
been
brought
up
about.
You
know,
Park,
Rangers
and
funding,
so
I
think
it's
more
of
just
definition
of
how
we're
how
we
are
defining
public
safety.
I
It
seems
like
in
everything
that
has
thus
far
been
funded
through
public
safety,
or
that
idea
is
only
our
police
force
when
we've
recognized
that
there
may
be
other
ways
to
keep
our
communities
safe.
That
include
different
programs,
so
I
don't
think
it's
so
much
an
intent
to
say
you
know
financially
we're
going
to
do
this
more
of
an
intent
to
say,
as
we
look
in
the
future
spending,
hopefully
some
tax
revenue
that
we
are
able
to
get
that
we're.
Looking
at
public
safety
as
a
broad
category.
A
I
G
A
D
I
D
I
think
I
think
really
the
police
department,
Fire,
Department
and
dispatch
you
know
all
are,
you
know,
could
easily
be
considered
as
Public
Safety.
Well,
they
are
considered
as
Public
Safety.
So
as
long
as
the
language
that
Amy
just
proposed
in
you
know,
could
include
all
three
of
them
and
I
think
it
does
I
think
that
makes
sense.
So.
I
A
D
Chair,
yes,
for
the
next
item,
we
have
had
discussion
on
each
of
these
and
I
think
we've
stopped
hold
them
in
previous
meetings.
So
I
would
make
a
motion
that
we
strop
hold
the
next
section
together.
So
the
following
would
be
considered
conditional
appropriations
remove
the
word
potential
and
it
would
be
all
of
the
items
listed,
one
a
through
G.
G
G
We're
approaching
the
funding
our
future
one
with
conditional
appropriations,
which
is
a
little
bit
different
than
contingent
appropriations
contingent
appropriations.
It's
a
semantics
thing,
but
it's
contingent
appropriations
allows
finance
to
sort
of
check
a
box
before
releasing
funds
in
the
conditional
appropriations.
G
B
J
A
H
G
D
Yeah
and
I
think
that
you
know
by
having
the
you
know
the
contingency
being
that
the
council,
having
the
opportunity
for
input
on
the
survey
focusing
questions.
You
know,
I
think
the
intent
that
we
need
to
be
very
clear
about
is
not
just
that
the
administration
comes
to
the
council
with
a
survey
prepared,
and
you
know,
says
what
you
know.
What
do
you
think,
but
instead
that
we're
part
of
those
discussions
to
Anders
point
so
that
we
can
ensure
that
that
the
sales
tax
issue
is
dealt
with.
H
I
H
I,
the
the
dashboard
that's
spoken
of
in
here
is
really
a
dashboard
to
monitor
expenditure
of
funds
right.
It's
not
a
dashboard
to
talk
about
what
happened
because
of
the
funds
were
spent
or
what
benefits
came
to
the
city.
What
improvements
came?
There's
nothing
to
measure
that
piece
and
that's
where
my
concern
was,
and
the
survey
is
an
existing
tool.
That's
been
fully
funded,
but
using
that
to
show
did
Public
Safety
actually
go
up,
got.
I
A
I
give
a
suggestion,
and
maybe
staff
can
correct
me
that
we
could
do
a
legislative
intent
that
the
results
of
the
biennial
survey
inform
next
year's
considerations
of
the
funding,
our
future
revenue
at
least
then
our
staff
will
help
us
to
remember
that
we
meant
to
do
that.
Okay,
councillor
Luke.
Did
you
make
a
motion
on
it.
A
G
I
clarify-
and
maybe
it's
worth
sorry
to
separate
out
number
two
because
number
two
right
now
is
a
placeholder
that
relates
to
the
northwest,
quadrant
and
I.
Think
the
council
had
some
additional
conversations
that
would
probably
put
different
language
in
on
number
two.
So
maybe
one
three
and
four
could
be
strawpoll.
I,
don't
need
to
make
a
friendly.
H
G
Just
for
the
public
record
we'll
put
that
language
in
the
motion
sheet.
We're
gonna
have
a
lot
of
edits
to
the
motion
sheet
and
so
we'll
make
that
motion
sheet
available,
probably
just
before
the
seven
o'clock
meeting
we'll
post
it
online
and
we'll
pass
it
out
to
anyone
in
audience
who's
trying
to
follow
along.
A
E
G
Us
nope
just
that,
maybe
to
orient
you
to
the
motion
sheet.
What
we'll
do
is
we'll
work
over
the
next
two
hours
less
than
two
hours
to
make
sure
that
the
language
that
you
need
to
the
only
language
that
you
need
to
read
is
the
language
in
red.
We
try
and
minimize
the
amount
of
language
you
need
to
read.
G
It
gets
kind
of
repetitive.
One
question
we
have
is
that
some
in
some
previous
years
we've
separated
out
legislative,
intense,
where
there
has
been
a
split
vote.
It
looks
like
there's
only
two
legislative,
intense
where
there
was
a
six
to
one
vote.
Do
the
ones
I
think
it
was
Derek
in
one
case
for
golf
and
Andrew
in
one
case,
for
the
parking
ticket
budgeted
revenue
with
actual
revenue?
Do
you
want
us
to
separate
those
out
so
that
you
can
vote
on
those
separately
without
having
to
not
vote
for
the
rest
of
the
legislative?
Intents?
G
A
There's
there's
not
a
lot
of
detail.
Thank
you
for
not
giving
us
too
many
words
in
red,
but
councilmember
Rogers
is
chairing
in
June
in
our
formal
meetings
and
if
certain
council
members
want
to
make
certain
motions,
I
encourage
you
to
coordinate
that
with
councilmember
Rogers
in
advance
anything
else.
Jennifer
and
Ben
I.
B
B
G
A
A
H
B
Is
a
product
out
there
and
we'd
like
to
try
it,
and
we
just
have
forgot
where
to
use
it,
it's
to
help
with
heat
island
effect.
You
know
black
absorbs
heat
white
doesn't
to
the
same
extent,
so
it's
any
color
that
would
reduce
the
heat
island
effects
want
to
look
at
and
see.
If
there's
a
possibility,
we
wouldn't
start
in
the
roads
because
of
the
high
maintenance
we
just
start
trying
it
in
parking
lots.
Our
mother,
please
I,
think.
D
B
B
D
A
You
didn't
see
that
one
coming
looks
like
the
inner
locals.
Alright,
though,
thank
you,
gentlemen,
for
being
with
us,
we're.
D
E
B
It's
not
very
often
that
we
have
you
come
in
for
a
budget
and
then
you
know
we're
looking
to
appoint
you
as
the
director
so
want
you
to
know
that
through
the
budget
process,
I
was
extremely
impressed
with
your
abilities
and
the
way
that
you're
communicated
in
the
well
and
how
you
knew
the
department.
So
I
look
forward
to
seeing
you
as
as
I'm
going
to
support
you
as
the
director
of
this
department.
So
thank
you
so
much
you
guys
were
scary
yeah.
No,
it
was
you.
You
really
did
a
fantastic
job,
so
I
just.
A
B
A
B
A
B
B
A
B
We
thought
that
this
might
be
a
great
time
to
orient
since
the
budgets
wrapping
up
public
engagement
for
the
general
obligation
bond
is
underway.
I
had
just
a
couple
of
questions
to
clarify
what
we
think
we've
heard
from
council
members
so
far,
and
that
is
the
intention
of
using
80%
of
the
funding
towards
arterial
and
collectors
and
20%
towards
local
streets,
prioritizing
them
from
the
worst
in
their
respective
categories
and
I
offered
that
language
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
have
the
staff
report
in
front
of
you,
but
the
policy
questions
are.
D
So
before
I
do
that
I'll
just
say
that
I'm
with
Aaron
I
actually
like
the
70/30
match,
but
because
of
the
work
that
we're
gonna
be
doing
through
the
sales
tax
and
the
money
that
we're
gonna
be
putting
into
increased
transit.
I.
Think
we're
gonna
need
to
see
more
of
that
revenue
going
to
the
arterial
streets
because
the
arterial
streets
are
going
to
be
the
areas
that
are
going
to
be
mostly
used
for
for
that
those
transit
routes,
so
I
would
propose
that
we
actually
do
stick
with
the
80,
30
or
80/20
model
I'm.
D
A
I
Chair,
if
I
may
just
a
quick
question
with
the
prioritization,
does
it
also
take
into
account
equity
throughout
all
of
the
districts?
Or
is
it
just?
We
look
at
all
of
these
streets
and
it
is
worst
to
non
worst
and
I
can
say
best
because
I
don't
think
there
is
a
best
in
the
city
right
now,
but
Oh
worse
non
worse,.
B
This
currently
is
fairly
broad
as
a
starting
point
that
we
can
feel
comfortable
going
out
and
engaging
based
on
so
this
there.
We
are
anticipating
many
more
conversations
to
fine-tune
the
details,
so
we
only
have
worst
first
written
down
now
if
the
council's
comfortable
firming
up
preferences
beyond
that,
we,
madam.
I
B
A
Know
I've
said
a
couple
times
that
I
don't
want
I,
don't
think
council
members
should
be
picking
streets
and
we
kind
of
get
into
that
when
we
say
now
now,
instead
of
going
off
the
analysis
pick
that
one
that's
maybe
in
a
different
position
on
the
list,
because
we
need
you
to
balance
this
out
and
I
just
want
to
be
cognizant
of
that
that
we're
not
sticking
to
the
analytics
necessarily.
Madam.
H
Intent
language
could
be
broad
enough
to
say
that
geographic
parity
should
be
a
part
of
the
discussion
or
something
similar
that
way
because
the
reality
is
the
arterial
streets
are
gonna,
be
downtown
yeah.
That's
where
the
heavy
use
goes.
It's
one
area,
it's
where
a
lot
of
the
city
commuters
come
through.
So
we
have
to
acknowledge
that
and
not
over
promise
up
front,
but
I
think
the
language
I.
D
I
and-
and
we've
done,
we've
done
something
similar
with
with
Derek's
point
about
Complete
Streets.
You
know
that
we've
that
we've
added
that
as
a
piece.
That
is
something
that
you
know
that
there
is
intent
language
saying
you
know
that
it
needs
to
be
taken
into
consideration.
I
think
you
know
we
could.
We
could
mirror
that
language.
You
know
that
the
citywide
distribution
of
this
you
know
that
that
be
taken
into
into
consideration
as
well,
so
I
think
that
works
and.
A
B
A
The
dashboards
looking
really
good
so
far,
so
thank
you
all
right,
Thank,
You,
Liz
and
Kyra
we're
going
to
move
on
to
the
Salt
Lake
County
transit
tax
item
7
on
our
agenda.
I
do
see
Andrew
Gruber
in
the
audience
who
helped
us
have
a
discussion
last
time
about
this,
and
would
you
mind
if
I
invite
you
up
in
case
we
have
any
other
questions
as
the
font
of
information
regarding
this
county
option
and
Russell
weeks,
Thank
You
Russell.
You
want
to
start
us
well.
C
I
only
just
say
that
that
the
staff
and
the
attorney's
office
have
prepared
a
formal
resolution
and
that
you
all
have
seen
that
resolution
at
least,
and
there
are.
There
were
two
additions
today,
dealing
with
simply
facts
about
about
what
the
council
has
done
or
what
the
council
knows.
It's
in,
like
the.
C
Fifth
and
sixth,
we're
asses
that
read,
whereas
the
City
Council
in
December
2017
adopted
the
Matt,
the
transit
master
plan
for
the
city
to
guide
future
transit
development
in
Salt,
Lake
City
and
whereas,
according
to
the
2017
citywide
pavement
survey
of
road
and
Street
conditions,
two-thirds
of
Salt,
Lake,
City,
roads
and
streets
were
in
poor
condition
or
worse.
The
rest
of
that
language
is
is
essentially
taken
from
a
form
that
the
Utah
League
of
cities
and
towns
produced
after
the
after
SB
136
was
passed
and
tailored
to
some
issues
and
facts
about
Salt,
Lake,
City.
B
Just
I'm
still
really
upset
with
the
County
Council
I.
Just
can't
believe
that
they
would
thrust
this
on
municipalities
decide
especially
Salt
Lake
City
when
we've
just
implemented
a
sales
tax
increase,
and
here
we
are
again
it's
to
me.
It's
I
hate
to
say
this,
but
it
was
really
cowardly
of
them
to
do
that,
to
throw
it
out
to
the
cities,
it
should
have
been
a
county
initiative.
I
mean
the
county
is
going
to
get
money.
D
This
fall.
I
do
think
that
you
know
with
this
the
sales
tax
option
that
will
be
implemented
by
the
county,
that,
in
order
for
us
to
have
a
valid
seat
at
the
table
once
this
money
comes
in.
If
we
do
not
support
this,
we
lose
that
we
lose
that
opportunity
and
because
we
don't
really
have
a
direct
role
on
whether
or
not
to
pull
that
funding
trigger.
That
is
still
up
to
the
county.
D
J
This
was
a
really
difficult
decision
for
me
for
the
same
reasons,
because
I
think
that
we
did
we'd
made
such
a
strong
and
concerted
effort
to
reach
out
and
the
sales
tax
that
the
City
Council
passed
and
because
of
the
way
this
legislation
was
written
in
passed
and
the
time
in
which
it
was
passed
doesn't
allow
us
to
even
do
that
to
to
even
do
more
than
just
reaching
out.
You
know
via
our
own
social
media
or
talking
about
it
at
County
Council's.
J
But
you
know
people
have
not
had
an
opportunity
to
understand
this
is
coming
and
to
give
feedback
to
us
and
and
I
hope.
They
understand
that,
because
of
the
way
that
language,
the
legislation
was
structured,
that
that's
not
something
that
we
had
any
control
over
I
also
want
to
echo
the
frustration
with
the
Republican
members
of
the
gym
that
the
County
Council,
who
prevented
this
from
just
being
a
straight-up
Oh,
which
it
should
have
been
in
which
I
think
that
that
yeah.
This
was
a
failed
opportunity
to
lead
on
this
issue.
J
So
I
will
be
supporting
it.
But
again,
I
want
to
emphasize
how
disappointing
it
is
that
we're
not
able
to
get
adequate
residential
feedback
from
our
residents
before
doing
this
and
that
we're
having
to
rely
on
data
from
previous
polls
and
previous
election
results
that
doesn't
allow
us
to
take
into
account
the
changes
that
we
made
earlier
this
year
in
passing
our
own
sales
tax
council.
C
Only
because
of
that,
but
you
know
I'll
be
supporting
this
because
I
look
to
you
know
my
most
recent
election
in
2015,
which
is
when
prop
1,
was
on
the
ballot
and
salic
City,
supported
it
by
a
March,
and
so
our
residents
do
see
this
as
an
important
investment
and
they
want
these
resources
to
be
invested
in
transit,
and
so
you
know
I'll
be
supporting
it
because
of
that.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
statement.
I
I
mean
I
really
do
echo
a
lot
of
it.
What's
been
said
by
my
other
council
members,
that
said
Andrew
thanks
for
sitting
right
there
and
just
taking
this.
This
is
certainly
not
directed
at
you
and
really
the
information
you
provided
for
us
when
we
had
the
briefing
on
this
helped
me
kind
of
come
around
to
I
mean
clearly
we
understand
how
important
this
is
and
how
much
this
is
needed
for
our
city
and
our
County.
I
My
my
district
certainly
voted
in
favor
of
prop
1.
We've
pulled
the
numbers
and,
and
my
district
was
in
favor,
but
it
is
frustrating
not
being
able
to
go
back
to
our
residents
and
say
we've
done
all
of
these
other
things
to
you.
Are
you
still
ok
with
this?
That
said,
I
hope
that
the
county
will
really
do
what
it
is
intended
to
do
and
make
sure
that
these
these
dollars,
particularly
in
the
first
couple
of
years
when
we
as
individual
cities,
aren't
seen
much
of
this
money
spread.
I
H
Sure
so
the
question
that
keeps
coming
up
is
for
the
first
couple
years:
I
think
back
to
Charlie's
point
about
being
a
seat
at
the
table.
That
makes
some
sense,
but
after
that
is
not
I
mean
this
is
ETA
and
the
city
get
the
lion's
share
and
the
county
gets
five
percent.
I.
Believe
I,
remember
a
point.
H
Oh
one
point:
oh
five
will
be
a
point
point
one
for
each
of
the
UTA
in
the
city,
correct
yeah,
so
that
that's
the
the
question
in
my
head
has
been
I
support
it
because
there
are
very
few
things
that
we
can
use
taxes
for
that
can
make
life
more
affordable,
which
is
a
major
issue,
and
that's
what
comes
down
to
from
me,
but
as
far
as
getting
a
seat
at
the
table,
I
don't
know
that
that
applies.
That's
the
first
couple
years
am
I
wrong.
H
D
H
Why
I
mean
the
first
year
is
nine
months?
I
mean
that's
not
irrelevant,
but
long
term.
That's
not
the
deal
long
term
we'd
have
that.
So
whether
we
pass
it
or
not,
the
county
passes
or
it
doesn't
pass
it.
That's
the
question
people
keep
asking
me
is:
why
wouldn't
just
wait
if
they
pass
it,
they
pass
it.
We
get
it
if
they
don't,
then,
two
years
from
now,
potentially
we
could
get
it
anyway.
If
we
vote
for
it,
Andrew.
C
D
I'm,
not
I,
don't
want
to
say
that
they're
vindictive,
but
their
memories
are
long
and
I.
Think
that
when
we
talk
about
different
projects
and
when
we
talk
about
transit
projects
in
particular
that
are
prioritized,
it
will
not
be
lost
on
them
who
voted
for
this
and
who
or
who
supported
it
and
who
did
not.
So
while
we
won't
be
able
to
negotiate
directly
with
the
county,
the
county
pulling
this
trigger
is
still
going
I
mean
our
residents
will
still
end
up
paying
for.
D
But
if
we
don't
support
it,
then
we
we
can't
hold
that
out
as
a
good
hate.
You
know
as
a
reminder
to
you
dot
an
to
UTA
that
Salt
Lake
County
or
the
Salt
Lake
City
stuck
our
neck
out
when
Salt
Lake,
County
wasn't
able
to
and
as
projects
are
coming
forward.
We
expect
both
departments
and
the
county
to
keep
that
in
mind
and
and
I
think
it's
it's
impaired
and
it's
imperative
for
us
that
we
do
that.
K
You,
members
of
the
council,
again
Andrew
drew
burr
with
the
Wasatch
Front
Regional
Council.
Just
briefly
to
your
point,
council
member
Johnson,
the
first
nine
months
of
revenue
would
go
all
to
the
county
and
the
county
has
indicated
that
they
would
want
to
have
a
process
that
engages
the
local
communities
in
the
cities
and
deciding
how
to
utilize
those
funds.
Thereafter,
as
you
noted,
the
majority
of
the
funds
would
go
directly
to
the
city
and
then
to
UTA,
but
for
the
funds
that
go
to
UTA
and
to
the
county.
Both
UTA
and
the
county.
J
I
hope
that
the
Council
of
the
County
Council
will
look
at
cities
who
choose
not
to
support
this
and
that
they'll
hold
them
at
those
words
that
that
by
not
adopting
this
resolution,
they
are
saying
that
they
don't
have
transit,
needs,
they're,
saying
that
they
don't
feel
or
if
they
do
have
transit
needs.
They
don't
feel
that
this
adequately
resolves
them.
So
I
sincerely
hope
that
that
these
resolutions
have
actual
meaning
for
the
cities
that
support
this
tax
and
say
we
we
recognize,
we
do
have
these
transit
needs.
A
That
leaves
me
and
I
won't.
There's
no
big
surprises
here.
I'm
gonna
support
this
tonight.
I
think
that
the
pavement
condition
survey
that
Salt
Lake
City
completed
is
some
of
the
most
current
and
relevant
analytics
in
terms
of
a
city
understanding
what
our
needs
are
in
the
whole
state,
and
we
know
that
even
despite
our
sales
tax
increase
and
even
despite
the
general
obligation
bond
potential
487
million
over
20
years,
we
still
aren't
actually
meeting
the
need.
A
The
full
real
need
for
our
streets
in
Salt,
Lake,
City
and
the
opportunity
for
us
to
have
a
an
ongoing
revenue
stream
that
goes
beyond
a
general
obligation.
Bonds.
Life
life
span
even
is
something
that
I
think
we
would
be
remiss
to
pass
up.
I
also
think
we
have
an
opportunity
to
address
our
financial
expectations
with
UTA
through
our
interlocal
agreement
that
we
will
undertake
with
them
when
we
fund
expansion
of
our
transit
system
through
our
sales
tax
option
that
we
did
and
it
in
terms
of
their
ongoing
dollars.
A
I
think
there's
conversations
still
to
there
and
I
also
appreciate
councilmember
Johnston's
point
of
this
being
one
of
the
few
ways
that
we
can
directly
affect
the
affordability
of
living
in
Salt,
Lake,
City
transit
is
one
of
those
so
I
be
in
support
of
this
tonight
and
I.
Think
the
pavement
condition
survey
is
the
foundation
that
my
decision
stands
on
any
other
discussion
on
this
one
council
members.
Anybody
feel
like
taking
a
straw
poll
I
think
we
all
expressed
that
already
through
our
comments.
J
A
K
A
Andrew
Gruber
and
Thank
You
Russell
weeks.
We
have
a
tentative
northwest,
quadrant
follow-up
discussion,
but
I
don't
believe
we
have
any
items.
We
just
had
that
as
a
placeholder,
and
so
we
will
move
on
to
the
end
of
our
meeting
tonight
before
our
formal
meeting,
the
report
and
announcements
from
the
executive,
director
and
I
think
we've
got
a
little
packet
in
our
folder
tonight.
Yes,.
E
Okay,
a
couple
of
sister-city
items:
there
is
a
delegation
of
students
each
year
sent
from
Matsumoto
Gwen
spring
Meyer
is
the
lead
of
that
group
and
they
always
put
together
a
few
opportunities
for
the
students
to
interact
with
council
members.
They
will,
let's
see
it,
looks
like
they
will
be
coming
to
be
briefed
at
the
chamber.
E
E
With
us,
but
there
are
several
other
opportunities
here:
one
is
their
graduation
dinner.
Each
council,
member
and
a
guests
would
be
invited
to
that.
So
we'll
need
to
hear
back
from
you
on
what
which
of
those
you
would
like
to
attend.
So
that's
not
directly
related
to
the
city's
formal
sister
city
program,
but
the
students
are
from
the
same
city.
Then
you
have
a
delegation
of
the
matsumoto
dignitaries
that
are
coming
in
celebration
of
the
60th
anniversary
of
the
sister
city
and
we
have
the
names
of
the
people
who
will
be
here.
E
E
A
Chime
in
mm-hmm
I,
unfortunately,
will
be
out
of
town
in
Denver
the
Monday
through
Thursday
that
these
events
are
happening
on
and
it
is
such
a
cool
opportunity.
I
really
encourage
you
all
to
do
it.
You
can't
participate
and
sing
karaoke
with
Charlie
at
the
banquet,
as
this
happened
last
time.
Well,
councilmembers
I,
like
someone
needs
to
sing
islands
in
the
stream
I
anyway.
I
encourage
you
guys
to
participate
and
represent
us
all
with
our
sister
city
of
sixty
years.
E
Okay,
then
there's
some
follow-up
information
about
dog
off
leash
areas.
The
council
had
asked
about
this
during
one
of
the
budget
conversations,
and
so
this
I
think
it's
more
that
you
would
just
look
at
this
at
your
leisure
and
see
if
you
have
any
questions.
Jan
Aramaki
is
the
person
on
our
council
staff,
who's,
the
contact
and
Lisa
Schaeffer.
It's
it's
her
department,
I.
E
B
B
A
Chair
vice-chair,
don't
have
any
announcements
and
we
do
have
a
closed
session.
That's
a
question
mark
folks,
can't
remember:
we've
we've
already
done
that
one!
Okay!
Okay
with
that
we're
gonna
break
for
an
hour
in
five
minutes.
Oh
well,
we'll
just
chalk
up
this
efficient
last
day
of
the
budget
to
this
awesome
Council
this
year,
good
job,
guys,
we've
got
an
hour
for
dinner
and
we'll
be
back
across
the
hall
at
7
o'clock
to
approve
our
budget,
etc.