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A
B
You
thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
so
for
this
item.
In
2010,
the
Department
of
Public
Utilities
started
looking
at
standards
for
local
limits
on
pollutants
that
can
be
discharged
in
wastewater,
came
to
the
council
in
2015,
for
suggestion
proposed
revisions
to
the
local
limits
for
the
pollutant
discharge
in
wastewater.
The
council
members
raised
some
concerns
with
a
couple
of
the
items
and
the
Department
of
Public
Utilities
revised.
B
The
proposal
presented
the
proposal
to
the
council
again
about
one
year
ago,
April
of
2017
council
received
that
briefing
without
comment
and
in
the
time
since
the
State
Department
of
Environmental
Quality
has
conducted
the
necessary
public
noticing
and
outreach.
So
the
Department
of
Public
Utilities
is
back
to
talk
about
and
answer
questions
on.
The
revised
proposal
for
the
updates
to
the
local
limits.
C
C
It's
it's
also
a
forty
Code
of
Federal
Regulations
403
and
for
these
requirements,
we've
been
since
2010
been
working
on
our
pretreatment
limits
and
those
are
for
various
types
of
contaminants,
heavy
metals,
chemical
oxygen
demand
and
some
other
other
types
of
contaminants
that
can
impact
our
ability
to
treat
the
wastewater
as
it
goes
through
our
facility
and
out
into
the
effluent
and
into
the
receiving
waters.
So
that's
kind
of
where
we
we
start
off
in
2010.
Again,
as
Sam
mentioned,
we
came
in
2015
with
some
proposed
limits,
based
on
some
guidance
from
counsel.
C
Some
of
the
limits
were
had
actually
gone
up,
based
on
the
methodologies
were
using
to
calculate
them.
Based
on
EPA
methodologies,
we
went
back
after
the
council
suggestions
worked
with
Division
of
Water
Quality
at
the
Department
of
Environmental
Quality
Division
of
Water
Quality,
and
work
with
them
to
revise
the
limits
such
that
they
would
accept
them.
They
could
have
faith
and
understanding
of
how
they
were
calculated
and
they
could
I
guess
justify
them
to
anybody
that
might
come
to
them.
C
C
D
E
F
G
A
C
We
addressed
all
those
working
with
dwq
and
we
didn't
increase
any
ultimate
inner
increase
any
of
our
contaminants,
with
exception
of
silver
that
went
from
a
five
milligram
per
liter
limit
to
no
limit,
and
that's
just
because
it's
not
a
not
truly
a
contaminant
of
concern
in
our
way
Street
area,
you
might
have
more
information
on
that.
Yeah.
H
Criteria
used
to
calculate
local
limits,
which
is
based
upon
the
concentration
of
potential
contaminant
coming
into
the
water
reclamation
facility,
the
ability
of
the
water
reclamation
facility
to
remove
any
particular
contaminant
the
effluent
that
leaves
the
water
reclamation
facility
into
the
receiving
body,
as
well
as
the
bio
solids
that
we
dispose
of.
So
we
have
to
calculate
or
evaluate
a
potential
impact
from
any
pollutant
on
those
three
sources:
EPR
I'm,
sorry
DEQ
does
not
have
any
effluent
limit
for
silver,
so
there's
no
regulatory
driver
for
that
discharge.
H
C
A
I
D
The
state
does
not
have
a
limit
and
for
us
we
haven't
been,
have
not
detected
this,
which
is
why
we
do
not
have
a
limit
we
will.
As
Jesse
mentioned,
we
are
required
every
five
years
to
go
in
and
assess
our
limits.
We
do
this
annually
to
make
sure
that
the
limits
are
protective,
and
we
will
do
this
again.
So
if
we
see
an
indication
that
silver
is
a
concern,
we
could
revise
those,
but
because.
I
H
C
They
are
technically
based
limits
that
we
be
looking
at
okay
and
the
other
thing
just
a
little
more
clarity,
so
the
public
outreach
we
did
on
this.
We
actually
talked
to
all
of
our
permit
holders
and
even
some
of
the
ones
that
we
thought
might
have
issues.
So
we
did
a
lot
of
public
outreach
with
industry
to
make
sure
that
no
surprises
would
come
to
them
and
they've
I
think
there
was
acceptance
all
around
yes
great.
G
A
H
C
C
That,
with
our
with
all
of
our
capital
improvement
projects
for
our
collection
system,
we're
hoping
to
minimize
that
arsenic
is
just
it's.
A
high,
naturally
occurring
element
in
the
West
and
you'll.
See
that
in
soils
and
I.
Think
that's
something
that
we're
working
on
through
our
capital
program
and
operations
and
maintenance
of
our
collection
system
to
mitigate
that
and.
D
D
And
because
of
this
we
have
sediment
that
just
stays
on
the
SIRT
stays
in
the
creek,
and
that
takes
a
lot
of
oxygen,
as
does
this
organic
material
and
that's
what
we
call
biological
oxygen
demand.
So
we
see
that
in
the
Jordan
River
in
other
places,
so
non
point
source
is
a
is
a
concern
and
the
state
and
EPA
know
that
as
well.
These
are
voluntary
programs,
but
I
think
one
thing:
the
city
is
really
good,
as
we
were
very
proactive
of
taking
opportunity
to
try
to
address
these
pollutants
of
concern
and.
A
H
It
that's
a
good
question
that
is
something
that
EPA
Nakhla,
which
I'll
mess
up
the
acronym
but
they're,
the
North
American
Water,
Alliance
they're.
They
work
with
EPA
and
they're,
actually
evaluating
microbeads
and
some
of
these,
what
they
call
emerging
contaminants
now
to
help
cities
and
pio
tws
determine
how
can
what
is
required
to
remove
these
potential
contaminants
from
wastewater
in
the
future
and
protect
the
environment.
H
A
As
a
single
councilmember,
not
speaking
or
the
body,
I'll
tell
you
that
I
would
love
to
hear
future
developments
from
public
utilities
about
that
and
any
other
emerging
pollutant
issues.
For
my
peers,
it
was
really
fascinating
to
learn
about
those
the
microbeads
like
in
our
face
wash.
You
know
that
is
really
fabulous
when
you're
washing
your
face,
but
that
they
go
through
a
lot
of
the
water
treatment
systems.
C
A
Would
be
great
as
we
get
public
utilities
of
Salt
Lake
City
is
always
at
the
cutting
edge
of
these
water
conversations,
and
we
appreciate
you
being
here
with
us:
Terry
Marion,
Jesse
Sam,
thank
you
and
unless
there's
any
other
questions
we
will
move
on
from
this.
Thank
you
for
being
with
us.
It
looks
like
we
could
take
council
action
later
today
at
our
formal
meeting.
Okay.
A
Thank
you
for
being
here.
We
are
going
to
shuffle
our
bicycle
licensing
ordinance
so
that
councilmember
Luke
can
be
here
with
us
and
I
understand
that
our
auditors
are
in
the
audience.
So
if
you
wouldn't
mind
jumping
with
us
to
item
four
on
our
agenda,
the
city's
annual
financial
audit
report-
and
we
would
like
to
invite
Paul,
skein
and
Michael
Michelson
from
et
Bailey
to
come
on
up.
K
K
A
K
K
K
A
K
You
have
been
here
before
once
your
time.
No,
we
we
appreciate
that
and
I
just
for
sake
of
introduction.
I'll
talk
through
the
process
at
a
high
level
and
then
some
of
the
results
of
what
we
went
through
and
then
open
it
up
for
any
questions.
You
may
have
just
a
few
required
communications.
Is
we
confirm
that
we
are
independent
of
the
city
and
any
of
the
component
units
that
we
perform
audit
procedures
on?
We
don't
have
a
vested
financial
interest
or
conflicts
with
management
or
anything
of
that
nature.
K
One
thing
to
discuss
is
that
the
report
was
later
than
usual
and
we've
already
met
with
each
of
the
component
units
and
departments
that
have
separate
audits
that
feed
into
the
city's
Cafer
and
established
a
timeline
for
this
next
year
to
where
that
will
not
be
a
problem.
So
we
every
ones
on
board.
We've
got
deadlines
for
each
of
the
the
different
component
units
and
our
schedule
has
been
set
internally
to
where
we'll
be
able
to
keep
up
with
those
deadlines,
assuming
each
of
the
components
unit
component
units
does
as
well
so
we're
on
that.
K
The
second
report
that
we
issue
is
on
federal
compliance
and
internal
control
over
federal
programs,
and
this
one
pulls
in
some
of
the
findings
that
were
already
reported
with
RDA
that
there
were
some
material
audit
adjustments
in
in
the
RDA
that
had
impact
on
federal
programs.
Therefore,
we
did
have
material
weakness
noted
there
because
of
the
audit
entries
that
were
required,
that
there
were
no
improprieties
or
question
costs.
K
It's
just
more
related
to
the
internal
control
over
the
financial
reporting
process,
and
then
we
also
had
a
significant
deficiency
that
has
not
been
reported
to
Council,
or
one
of
the
other
governing
bodies
is
in
the
the
city.
There
was
in
May
of
17.
The
state
allocated
additional
funds
from
the
class
PNC
Road
fund
to
each
of
the
municipalities
in
the
hidden
kind
of
in
the
the
disbursement
was
that
it
should
be
applied
to
fiscal
year.
17
city
received
the
money
and
and
set
it
up
as
a
deferral
until
18.
K
So
there
was
a
required
adjustment
to
push
that
back
in
to
17.
Again,
that's
a
timing
thing
there.
There
was
no
impropriety
or
missed
classification.
It
was
just
getting
it
in
the
right
period,
so
we
didn't
feel
like
that
was
a
material
weakness,
but
it
was
a
deficiency
we
felt
should
be
noted
and
then
the
third
report
that
we
issue
is
on
state
compliance
and
we
did
not
have
any
issues
with
state
compliance
matters.
K
The
other
required
communications
is
there
were
no
disagreements
with
management.
It's
not
to
mean.
We
didn't
have
some
healthy
discussions
along
the
way,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
were
all
able
to
see
eye
to
eye
and
come
to
the
same
conclusions
and
that
there
were
no
other
significant
matters
that
we
felt
needed
to
be
reported
before.
Council
I
think
it's
important
to
say:
I
say
this
every
time
a
couple
times
a
year.
The
that
we
are,
though
we
spend
the
vast
majority
of
our
time
working
with
management.
K
We
are
not
hired
by
management.
We
don't
report
to
management,
we
report
to
you,
and
so
we
we
try
to
make
ourselves
available
if
any
of
them,
the
council
members
had
questions
throughout
the
year.
Mike
and
I
are
both
available
to
address
those
at
any
time.
So
with
that,
I
will
open
it
up
to
any
questions.
You
may
have.
L
K
A
K
A
K
That's
one
of
the
required
thing
when
we
have
a
finding
that's
one
of
the
first
things
we
do
in
assessing
our
planning
and
setting
up
our
scope
for
the
next
year
as
we
evaluate
what
efforts
have
been
made
to
mitigate
that
finding
in
in
future
years,
plus
it's
low-hanging
fruit
as
auditors.
Right
if
we
get
a
finding
right
off
the
bat.
Well,
we're
halfway
done
so
not
really.
No.
A
K
A
K
L
A
N
Yes,
I've
got
a
quick
intro.
The
council
has
a
reminder
held
a
public
hearing
on
March
20th.
There
were
two
dozen
people
who
came
and
spoke.
This
is
the
first
briefing
and
there's
a
second
briefing
scheduled
for
April
17th
and
then
a
potential
council
vote
on
May
1st.
This
is
the
fourth
year
under
the
city's
five-year
consolidated
plan
and
as
a
reminder,
it
targets
the
funding
into
the
Poplar
Grove
and
Central
City
neighborhoods,
and
there's
a
map
of
that
in
your
packet
in
the
additional
info
section
of
the
staff
report.
N
As
in
most
years,
the
requests
for
funding
in
CDBG
and
ESG
significantly
outstrip
the
available
funding
for
those
requests,
but
for
home
and
HOPWA.
The
requests
almost
perfectly
match
the
available
funding,
so
everybody's
getting
something
in
home,
but
in
ESG
and
in
CDBG,
especially
it's
much
more
competitive.
There's
a
minimum
funding
level.
It's
$30,000,
you'll
notice.
N
There
are
a
few
projects
that
were
disqualified
for
requesting
less
than
the
minimum
funding
level,
and
this
was
a
new
part
of
the
program
that
was
started
last
year
and
the
intent
was
to
have
a
bigger
impact
because
there
were
some
people
or
some
organizations
who
would
submit
applications
with
very
small
amounts,
maybe
$7,000,
and
when
you
take
into
account
the
cost
to
actually
administer
that
amount.
You
start
eating
away
at
the
impact
and
the
benefit
the
community
actually
receives.
So
a
$30,000
minimum
is
the
city's
current
level.
N
The
administration
did
a
significant
amount
of
public
outreach
more
than
twice
as
many
people
were
contacted
this
year
than
last
year.
Last
year
there
were
710,
and
this
year
it
was
just
over
1,800.
So
a
significant
increase
in
our
public
outreach
efforts
and
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
attachment
one.
This
was
helpful
last
year
it's
the
combined
scoring
for
the
projects,
the
board
and
the
mayor,
each
score
the
applications,
and
you
can
see
the
scores
on
attachment.
One
sorry.
M
Just
to
clarify
the
mayor
does
not
score.
There's
an
administrative
score
in
a
board
score.
So
I
don't
so
we
do
an
administrative
scoring.
My
team
does
based
on
real,
firm
things,
black
and
white
things.
Does
it
meet
the
regulations?
How
did
they
perform?
We
do
a
risk
analysis,
that's
qualified
by
HUD
and
then
the
board
scores
and
so
they're
merged
mayor.
O
A
The
public
hearing
last
week
last
two
weeks,
job
scope.
When
you
know
we
were
down
by
8:30
and
we're
a
few
staff
people
who've
been
here
for
a
while,
and
probably
you
Andrew
can
remember
the
cdbg
nights
in
the
days
of
yore
when
we'd
go
to
the
cows
came
home
because
we
had
so
many
applicants
and
we
would
issue
these
smaller
funding
requests
and
there
were
really
dozens
and
dozens
and
dozens
of
nonprofits
that
would
show
up,
and
we
were
lamenting
it
to
an
extent
how
you
could
feel
like.
A
We
can
there's
so
many
points
in
the
city
where
we're
able
to
supplement
the
need
and
now
but
I,
do
understand
the
the
financial
balance
that
we're
achieving
here
and
yet
it's
we
can
almost
count
on
a
few
hands,
a
few
fingers
all
that
are
receiving
funding.
So
there's
that
kind
of.
Why
are
we
doing
community
councils
kind
of
level
outreach
when
we're
really
targeting
a
very
small
portion
of
the
service
community?
A
M
A
great
question-
and
in
fact
it's
kind
of
like
we
did
the
opposite:
we
used
to
have
a
public
outreach
night.
If
you
remember,
and
all
the
agencies
would
show
up
in
no
public
general
public
right,
so
we
weren't
doing
a
very
good
job.
So
last
year
we
spend
the
time
sort
of
intercepting,
but
we
didn't
want
to
say
what
is
your
need
in
general
right?
We
really
wanted
it
to
funnel
to
what
we
thought
funding
sources
could
respond
to.
A
M
N
A
N
N
Is
typical
and
the
board,
which
is
really
helpful,
has
provided
recommendations
about
what
to
do
if
we
get
more
or
less
than
those
estimates
and
those
are
included
in
your
packet
and
I'm
going
to
pull
it
up
right
here
and
they
have
one
for
each
of
the
four
grants
and
you
don't
have
to
decide
right
now,
but
it's
really
helpful
for
the
administrative
staff.
If
there's
two
dollars
more
than
we
estimated
they'd
have
to
come
back
to
the
council
to
use
that
$2
or
wait
to
use
it
next
year.
A
M
I
would
say
that
in
years
past
we
have
never
counted
on
receiving
more
so
you're
decreased
contingencies
are
tend
to
be
more
valuable
as
the
board
contemplated
their
own
contingencies.
They
really
spoke
to
the
scoring
and
they
felt
that
the
contingencies,
especially
for
increases,
should
correlate
with
the
higher
scores,
and
so
that's
what
you'll
see
reflected
in
their
sort
of
policy
considerations.
M
The
decreases
are
a
little
more
strategic
based
on
what
they
thought
a
program
could
support
right.
So
if
a
project
was
not
able
to
be
completed,
if
it
was
decreased,
then
it
didn't
make
sense
to
allocate
okay.
We
got
we
were
off
by
10%,
so
we
decrease
everybody
by
10%,
so
they
were
a
little
more
contemplative
in
that
respect.
This
year
there
was
some
increases
in
the
budget
overall,
which
was
sort
of
shocking
to
everybody
involved
with
federal
funding
processes.
We
don't
know
how
that
will
transpire
to
Salt
Lake
City
as
an
entitlement
city
directly.
M
A
So,
council,
members,
based
on
that
possible,
welcome
Derrick
kitchen
by
the
way,
based
on
the
possibility
of
there
being
more
but
the
reality
that
there
may
be
less
as
well
in
looking
at
the
contingency
plans
here
for
the
four
different
funds,
anybody
have
any
changes.
Are
we
comfortable
with
this
suggestion?
Okay,.
N
A
A
N
Takes
us
to
the
second
policy
question,
which
is
about
encouraging
more
transportation
projects
on
the
last
page
of
the
big
spreadsheet
you'll,
see
the
five
objectives
under
the
five-year
consolidated
plan,
also
pulling
it
up
here
and
you'll.
See
transportation
is
one
of
those
five
objectives
that
we
need
to
show
advancements
to
HUD
that
we're
achieving
our
goals
and
that
that's
one
of
the
ways
they
say
yes,
you're
doing
a
good
job
will
continue
to
give
you
grant
money.
F
E
Yeah,
the
little
bit
of
information
we
heard
during
that
we
call
the
Nano
sessions
or
the
kind
of
speed-dating
for
federal
funding
interactions
with
applicants.
Is
that
yes,
somewhat
as
to
your
question,
it
really
doesn't
make
sense
for
them
to
pursue
something
if,
if
they
can't
make
that
30,000
or
more
work
for
their
small
organization,
the
bicycle
collective
did
not
have
the
capacity,
for
instance,
and
then
I'll
just
add.
E
Conversely,
in
years
past
we've
received
feedback,
and
this
I
don't
know
if
it's
still
relevant,
but
in
years
past
we
received
feedback
from
UTA
that
the
grant
award
amount
was
not
large
enough
for
it
to
make
sense
for
an
organization
like
UTA
to
apply
for
it,
for
example,
for
different
programs
that
they
had
in
CDBG
eligible
areas.
So
it's
just
kind
of
a
chicken
and
egg
thing.
I.
A
Had
a
thought
that,
but
obviously
there's
some
kind
of
a
sweet
spot
organizational
size
there,
but
with
as
Ben
brings
up
in
that
the
end
of
that
policy.
Question
statement
around
our
considerations
around
implementing
some
of
the
transit
master
plan
here
and
wanting
to
leverage
every
source
of
possible
dollars
to
make
that
go
far.
Maybe
there's
some
kind
of
conversation
we
could
have
with
UTA
or
whoever
that
transit
entity
is
about
taking
advantage
of
applying
through
CDBG
for
some
specific
components
of
the
master
plan
implementation
it
go
ahead.
Please.
M
What
I
would
say
is
that
we
actually
received
a
lot
of
push
from
Housing
and
Urban
Development
and
actually
the
minimum
that
they
request
is
35,000,
so
their
minimum
is
actually
higher
than
ours,
and
so
every
year
we
get
pushback
that
we
should
be
doing
larger
grants,
and
it
was
also
done
based
on
considerable
outreach
with
our
applicants.
So
we
did
a
lot
of
outreach
and
we
kind
of
had
people
pull
what
they
thought
was
the
right
amount
and
the
most
popular
amount
was
25,000
and
HUDs
recommendation
as
35,000.
F
M
Everything's,
a
possibility
really
I
think
what
I
would
say
is
what
we've
learned
from
organizations
when
they
take
on
less
than
30,000
they're,
not
comfortable
with
the
reporting
requirements
and
the
time
that
goes
into
it.
So
they
might
think
that
they
want
15,000
and
then
at
the
end,
what
we've
learned
is
they
kind
of
come
back
and
say
you
know
it's
not
worth
it.
M
However,
to
your
point
about
exploration,
it
might
be
worthwhile
saying
how
do
we
think
about
the
bigger
larger
infrastructure
projects
and
maybe
thinking
more
collaboratively
about
how
we
get
more
applicants
for
that,
so
that
we
can
continue
to
address
the
objectives,
because
I
think
there's
got
to
be
ways
where
we
can
increase
the
number
of
applicants
in
this
category.
Thank
You.
I
I'm
just
wondering
if
we
want
to
if
we
want
more
more
applicants
to
speak
to
the
transit
component
are
there
are
other
cities
that
are
there?
Are
there
agencies
or
nonprofits
out
there,
that
in
other
cities,
are
applying
for
CDBG
under
to
meet
the
transparency
goal
that
maybe
either
we
don't
have
here
or
that
we're
not
reaching
out
to
a
great.
M
I
M
A
Spy
John
Larson
in
the
audience,
our
director
of
transportation,
could
I
implore
you
to
come
and
join
us
John
and
if
we
have
any
other
transportation
questions,
but
if
you
have
any
ideas
or
I
know
that
with
your
work
before
you
were
at
the
city,
you've
always
been
aware
of
all
the
transportation
kind
of
partners,
small
and
large,
all
the
fish
size
out
there
in
the
ocean.
Do
you
have
any
thoughts
for
this
counsel?
Who
really
does
want
to
deepen
the
pool
of
transportation
applications
for
CDBG
and
how
we
might
go
about
that?
P
A
Except
for
those
three
points,
the
the
plan
objectives
around
supporting
access
to
public
transportation
for
vulnerable
populations,
increasing
the
accessibility
of
public
transit
in
distressed
neighborhoods
and
expanding
expand
and
improve
multimodal
transportation
infrastructure.
Those
are
the
only
criteria.
Okay,.
B
O
Are
really
anything
that
makes
it
easier
to
get
to
and
from
either
your
home
or
your
destination
from
the
from
the
transit
station,
so
that
could
be
improved.
Sidewalks,
bicycle
infrastructure,
I
think
maybe
even
green
bike.
Potentially
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
about
whether
or
not
green
bike
could
expand
on
the
west
side.
L
F
This
is
how
of
time-intensive
it
might
be,
but
we
think
you
can
handle
it
and
then
here
is
like
the
benefit
that
would
bring
like
putting
green
bikes
over
on
the
west
side,
especially
with
some
of
the
trails
and
hopefully
nutrients
per
T
mass
transit
that
will
be
going
in
on
that
side
right.
So
that's.
Why
is
giggling
sorry
to
interrupt,
but
literally
just
was
very
net
over
here.
Thank
you.
J
E
Mentioned
this
earlier,
when
councilmember
Fowler
asked
about
it
that
the
staff
that
did
respond
basically
felt
like
didn't,
have
the
capacity
to
deal
with
a
new
CDBG.
This
was
their
first
application.
They
scored
quite
a
bit
lower
than
most
of
the
cohorts,
and
so
maybe
it
is
a
in
the
next
round
being
able
to
help
them
through
that
process.
Better.
E
M
Board
had
a
lot
of
concerns
about
the
program
itself
as
a
new
program
as
well,
and
so
one
of
the
things
the
board
is
always
contemplating
is
what
have
we
funded
in
the
past?
What
is
our
commitment
to
that
past
funding?
Now
you
should
know
that
we
always
say:
there's
no
guarantee
whether
you
received
it
in
the
past
or
not.
It
does
not
mean
that
you
will
receive
funding
in
the
future,
but
certainly
the
board
contemplates
that
as
a
contextual
point,
so
they
had
just
a
lot
of
questions
in
general
and
so
to
Lonny's
point.
E
J
N
Just
add
council
member
kitchen
that
when
you
look
on
the
far
right
column,
this
is
also
up
on
the
screen
that
the
objective
that
the
bicycle
collective
has
is
actually
homeless.
Services.
It's
not
the
transportation,
and
so
that
speaks
to
how
sometimes
the
objectives
in
the
plan
are
not
exactly
up
to
date
with
the
city's
current
objectives,
especially
when
we're
in
the
fourth
year
of
a
five-year
plan.
I
M
I
E
Know
that
during
the
public
hearing
at
in
front
of
council
that
the
staff
member
that
did
speak
to
it
said
that
we
have
had,
they
have
had
troubles
with
staffing
and
that
they
just
have
not
been
as
compliant
in
the
grant
application
or
grant
administration
and
reporting
as
they
need
to
be.
I.
Would.
L
M
That
context
I
know
that
the
mayor,
when
we
reviewed
the
recommendations
with
her,
asked
that
it
be
reconsidered
during
the
budget
time
as
an
offline
item,
because
the
other
component
of
this
application,
in
particular,
was
maybe
federal
funding,
isn't
the
best
source
of
funding
for
this
group
based
on
sort
of
the
capacity.
So
it's
certainly
a
priority
sort
of
organization
in
terms
of
homeless
services,
and
so
we
have
put
that
on
the
list
of
things
to
be
considered
in
the
upcoming
budget
as
well
and.
I
F
N
Is
as
a
reminder,
last
year,
the
administration
created
a
consolidated
line
item
which
is
up
on
the
screen
here,
and
this
is
a
way
for
the
city
to
reflect
the
total
investment
in
homeless
service
providers,
and
the
policy
question
has
two
points.
The
first
is,
if
CDBG
and
the
other
HUD
federal
grants
the
awards
should
be
added
into
so
should
be
added
into
this
consolidated
line
items
so
that
they're
reflected
in
one
spot,
the
city's
total
investment
to
the
homeless
service
providers.
I
A
I
M
You'll
pull
that
information
from
the
application.
In
terms
of
you
know
what
percentage
of
their
budget.
We
know
that
most
of
these
funds
go
to
salaries
and
operations,
and
that's
really
critical,
because
private
donors
generally
want
to
give
to
programs
directly.
So
she
will
ponder
that
and
kind
of
look
up
that
information
and
we
could
probably
circle
back
on
that.
If
that's
appropriate
council
member
1
and.
E
M
M
A
Moved
things
around
I
think
there
was
some
need
that
you
would
have
it
would
help
hand
if
we
didn't
wait
till
May
to
decide
on
CDBG,
so
we'll
be
voting
on
it
on
the
17th
and
we
have
space
on
our
work
session
next
week.
So
we'll
do
our
second
CDBG
next
week
on
this.
You,
madam
chair,
that's,
if
that's
a
surprise
to
you,
I'm!
Sorry,
there
you
go
a.
N
M
Just
as
a
point
of
clarification,
HUD
dollars,
real
true
requirement
is
that
it's
in
a
CDBG
eligible
area,
which
many
of
the
project
areas
are
so
it's
it's
not
exclusive.
It
doesn't
mean
we
can't
do
that,
but
just
to
give
some
parameter,
because
it's
really
meant
to
target
those
areas.
I
think
what
we've
enjoyed
about
this
program
in
particular,
is
that
now,
when
you
drive
through
those
areas,
you
start
to
see
an
effect
of
many
businesses
being
improved
and
that's
been
really
really
powerful
and.
N
J
L
L
A
I
N
M
J
M
J
M
A
Can
I
reiterate
this
and
see
if
I'm
understanding
it
correctly,
but
the
blue
areas
are
those
or
rather,
if
you
have
larger
lot
sizes,
so
you
have
fewer
people
per
census,
tract
area.
You
could
have
higher
incomes
because
there's
overall
there's
fewer
people
in
the.
But
if
you
have
a
densely
populated
area
with
lower
incomes,
they
could
be
equally
qualified
for
CDBG
dollars.
Well,
that
just
stinks
the.
M
G
A
N
The
next
three
policy
questions
are
somewhat
related.
Number
five
is
amending
the
current
five-year
plan,
and
this
was
briefly
talked
about
last
year,
especially
in
context
of
the
rape
Recovery
Center,
where
they
didn't
quite
fit
into
one
of
the
objectives
of
the
plan,
but
they
were
recognized
as
kind
of
a
critical
provider
of
services
where
there
was
no
one
else
providing
it
and
what
the
council
wound
up
doing
is
removing
it
from
t.
Db
G
won't
see
them
applying
this
year
and
they're.
N
Now
a
line
item
under
civic
support
in
the
annual
budget
under
non
departmental
and
this
policy
question
is
in
here
cuz.
It
seems
like
every
year
there
tends
to
be
one
or
several
areas
that
are
not
currently
reflected
in
the
objectives,
and
there
is
a
process
to
amend
the
plan,
but
since
we're
getting
close
to
the
end
of
the
current
five-year
plan,
that
leads
us
into
number
seven,
which
is
creating
the
next
five-year
plan.
M
So
it
would
take
basically
a
year
to
amend
an
existing
plan,
so
we
would
be
finishing
the
plan.
At
the
same
time,
we
amended
the
plan,
if
that
makes
sense
in
this
last
year.
So
you'd
want
to
take
that
into
consideration
if
you
felt
passionately
about
amending
the
service
population
for
this
year,
as
we
begin-
and
we
will
be
beginning
this
summer
on
the
consolidated
plan,
we
definitely
want
to
take
into
consideration
the
new
resource,
shelters
and
the
needs
of
the
community.
This
is
a
very
long.
M
It's
really
about
18,
to
20,
more
24
months
of
an
outreach
process
with
the
communities
to
help
identify
new
needs.
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
learnings
from
this
last
five-year
plan
that
will
be
applied,
and
some
of
that
might
relate
around.
How
do
we
make
sure
that
the
plan
is
a
little
more
flexible
so
that
we
can
respond
to
the
emerging
needs,
etc?
What
I,
don't
think
will
change
is
that
there
will
always
be
more
needs
than
there
is
funding,
and
so
that's
always
going
to
be
the
framework
in
which
we
work.
F
But
I
don't
know
where
to
begin,
and
if
this
is
the
right
spot
to
so
I'm
just
gonna
jump
in
and
start
talking
and
you
can
feel
free
to
stop
me
at
any
point
when
I
start
rambling,
but
so
first
off
since
I
wasn't
here
forty
years
ago
to
create
the
consolidated
plan.
I'm
assuming.
But
please
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
that
the
council
at
that
time
came
up
with
these
these
plan
objectives
and
and
then
came
up
with
sort
of
the
sub
objectives
of
each
main
objective
or
how
did
those
objectives
come
about?
M
We
can
put
that
in
the
plan
we
kind
of
start
with
the
framework
of
what's
allowable
under
each
entity
right
so
CDBG
is
very
specific
home
hapa
ESG
and
then
we
kind
of
start
to
engage
with
the
community
on
the
qualified
needs
and
get
a
sense
for
where
they
stand
now.
I
wasn't
here
either
or
during
that
two-year
outreach,
but
I
think
we're
much
better
outreach
than
we
used
to
be,
and
then
the
council
and
the
mayor
are
key
stakeholders
in
this
process
in
terms
of
needs.
M
F
Certainly
those
are
important
objectives,
but
how
do
we
I'm
wondering
if
there's
a
way
to
also
begin
addressing
actually
getting
people
into
buying
homes
and
and
what
that
kind
of
looks
like
and-
and
maybe
that's
something
that,
as
we
do
community
outreach
that
that's
kind
of
what
we're
looking
at
again
I,
don't
know
where
this
falls
in
it.
Just
is
a
continuous
thing
in
my
head
of
how
do
we
get
people
actually
buying
homes
here
of
some
sort,
yeah.
M
Councilmember
Fowler
I
mean
you've
pointed
on
probably
the
only
one
of
our
five
objectives
that
were
concerned
about
meeting
at
the
end
of
the
five-year
consolidated
plan
and
that's
not
for
lack
of
people
providing
the
service
right.
It's
it's
a
very
difficult
market.
The
issue
to
be
not
too
jargony,
hopefully,
is
that
HUD
only
allows
a
certain
amount
to
be
spent
on
a
home.
That
amount
is
less
than
what
homes
are
going
for
today.
So
if
HUD
says
well,
you
can
you
can
loan
up
to
two
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
on
a
home.
M
We
can't
find
a
home
at
$250,000,
so
what
that
suggests
is
that
we
would
need
additional
dollars
to
come
in
and
help
subsidize
so
that
we
could
meet
both
the
federal
regulations
and
input
other
items.
So
as
you
and
as
we
think
about
I
know,
as
public
outreach
is
being
done
around
sort
of
the
sales
tax
and
bond
just
to
put
this
into
perspective,
those
dollars
are
not
just
for
rental
they're,
also
to
help
leverage
some
of
these
federal
dollars,
tolls
towards
home
ownership,
I.
M
Think
in
my
world
and
Melissa's
world
that
I
live
in,
which
is
sometimes
not
the
world,
anybody
else
lives
in
is.
We
would
function
in
an
environment
when
the
market
begins
to
soften
and
go
down
we're
in
a
with
the
Community
Land
Trust
to
really
invest
in
home
ownership
and
I.
Think
that's
a
really
strategic
and
tactical
place
to
be
in
that
when
homes
are
not
going
for
what
they
are
today,
that
the
city
can
step
in
and
make
sure
that
it
continues
to
be
affordable
and.
A
Will
be
able
to
dig
a
little
bit
deeper
into
this
in
our
funding
our
future
agenda
item
today
and
ongoing,
but
there's
some
a
little
bit
more
detail
that
wasn't
in
our
packet
that
I
think
we
have
in
or
may
now
be
in
our
packet
that
we'll
get
to
hear
from
I.
Think
we'll
hear
from
you
again
today
or
we'll
have
the
chance
to.
If
we
want
to
ask
anybody
else,
I
think.
G
G
So
it's
important
to
remember
that
as
we're
looking
at
who
we're
funding,
how
our
funding
and
our
objectives,
because
it's
not
it
comes
with
a
lot
of
strings
and
you
have
to
work
with
what
they
give
you
right.
What
thankful
for
it?
We're
grateful
for
the
opportunity
to
do
good
with
it
and
acknowledge
the
limitations
that
this
particular
stream
has
on
it.
So
the
more
we
can
leverage
with
other
things,
we're
doing
and
other
policies.
We
do
talk
about
housing.
G
N
So
I
think
that
takes
us
to
the
six
policy
question
which
is
about
progress
under
the
current
five-year
plan
and
it's
a
question
it's
a
question
about.
How
do
we
determine
if
we're
being
successful
in
our
current
five-year
plan,
if
there
are
elements
of
the
five-year
plan
that
we
definitely
want
to
continue
into
the
next
five-year
plan?
N
If
there
are
some
challenges
that
we
might
want
to
tweak
in
the
next
five-year
plan
to
better
address-
and
one
of
the
things
you
might
have
noticed
in
the
funding
log
this
year
is
the
project
description
now
lists
a
number
of
estimated
beneficiaries
and
two
council
staff
that
seemed
like
a
really
good
metric
to
start
measuring.
You
know
how
are
we
doing
with
progress
at
our
current
plan,
because
beneficiaries
are
a
nice
even
wave
better
consistent
year
to
year.
You
can
count
and
you
can
compare.
L
N
M
I
am
hesitant
to
give
any
sort
of
fiscal
number
now
I
think
we're
in
the
process
of
really
determining
what
is
going
to
be
needed
to
do
a
fective
outreach.
We
have
traditionally
hired
consultants
and
we
usually
hire
to
one
local
that
really
does
sort
of
what
we
call
intercept,
outreach
right.
They
go
to
where
people
are
they're,
not
hosting
big
tent
events
or
something
where
we
expect
people
to
come
at
six
o'clock
and
have
no
food
and
no
childcare,
and
you
know
who
can
who
can
do
that
right.
A
M
So
buildings
that
have
a
head
start
or
you
know
some
of
those
and
we
used
to
do
investments
like
that
and
we
moved
away
from
it.
And
so
the
question
is
coming
up
in
terms
of
how
we
really-
and
this
gets
back
to
areas
of
opportunity
which
we
have
spoken
about
for
years.
In
terms
of
you,
shouldn't
have
to
leave
your
community
to
get
access
to
resources.
So
is
there
a
way
that
federal
funds
can
be
used
to
create
opportunity
in
areas
that
need
it
low
cost,
grocery
stores
or
childcare
or
community
centers
or
libraries?
M
And
so
that's
something
we
are
contemplating
I?
Don't
you
know
I'm
hesitant
to
say
too
much,
but
I,
don't
think
that
we
are
going
to
look
at
this
plan
and
say
everything
we
did
is
still
relevant.
You
know
one
of
our
things
that
we're
very
happy
about
is
that
a
lot
of
the
ABA,
sidewalks
and
accessibility
was
really
completed
under
this
five-year
plan.
M
There
will
always
be
some
ongoing
need
and
we
need
to
stick
to
that,
but
the
fact
that
we
were
able
to
complete
a
lot
of
that
infrastructure
in
these
designated
areas
is
a
pretty
big
deal,
but
it's
also
a
sign
that
we
probably
don't
need
to
emphasize
that
going
forward.
So
it's
a
blank
canvas
and
we
look
forward.
L
M
A
To
reiterate
this
back
to
the
host
HRC
communities,
that
I
mean
my
understanding
is
that
in
this
early
analysis
of,
what's
been
done
around
say
a
quarter-mile
radius
around
the
two
sites
that
the
700
South
site
needs
zero,
ata
ramps.
It's
fully
curb
cut
and
awesome,
which
is
in
black
and
white
contrast,
basically
to
the
high
Avenue
Paramount
Avenue
site,
which
has
gaps
in
sidewalk
coverage
and
in
the
hundreds
of
AD
a
ramp
needs.
So
how
we
draw
the
boundaries
of
our
next
opportunity.
A
Areas
is
of
great
concern
to
me
because
the
we
absolutely
haven't
addressed
the
ATA
ramps
in
what
is
about
to
become
one
of
our
most
critical
areas
in
the
city,
which
is
also
the
second
highest
tax
generating
area
of
the
city,
where
we
continue
to
not
invest
in
infrastructure,
which
is
300
west.
So
this,
your
I,
totally
agree
Melissa,
that
this
is
an
incredible
opportunity
with
our
new
consolidated
plan
and
all
the
changes
that
have
happened
in
the
last
four
going
on
five
years.
A
The
way
we'll
shape
this
new
plan
is
of
great
importance
to
I.
Think
this
entire
body
I
know
that
we're
a
stakeholder
in
your
process,
but
we're
also
the
ultimate
decision
makers
and
the
funding
so
I.
If
you
can
give
us
any
insight
into
how
really
we'll
be
able
to
be
involved
in
the
crafting
of
this
plan,
that
would
be
great.
M
A
Are
you
satisfied?
Sorry,
okay,
all
right,
so
we
have
a
few
follow-ups
and
I
didn't
I
did
a
poor
job
of
taking
notes
from
the
beginning,
but
councilmember
Wharton
wanted
some
feedback
on
what
the
cut
from
Wasatch
or
fourth
Street
clinic
would
mean
for
their
programming.
Was
there
anything
else
that
you
needed
on
that
one.
I
A
Concern
from
councilmember
Fowler
that
I
think
we
share
around.
How
do
we
increase
access
to
home
ownership
through
this
fund
and
others
and
I?
Think
well,
that'll
be
a
multi-faceted
ongoing
discussion
and
the
inclusion
of
the
HRC
host
communities
as
a
critical
component
for
me
and
I.
Imagine
councilmember
kitchen
as
well,
if
not
the
whole
body
and
this
upcoming
consolidated
plan-
and
it
was
it's
good
to
know
that.
There's
no
real
point
in
us
amending
the
existing
one
when
were
that
would
be
a.
L
A
M
A
A
A
Well,
I
was
thinking
we'd
go
to
the
bike,
licensing
ordinance,
but
councilmember
Luke
isn't
quite
here
yet
so
go
to
surplus
land.
If
we
have
folks
in
the
room,
that's
item
five
surplus
land
disposition
policy,
prioritizing,
affordable
housing,
melissa
is
and
nick
target
coming
up.
Melissa
Jensen
are
you
flying
solo
from
hand
today
we
just
surprised
it
is
Lily
coming
down.
M
A
L
A
H
I'm
here,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
the
council
noted
there
was
a
few
questions
that
we
had
raised
in
the
staff
memo.
At
the
time
the
staff
report
was
published
and
was
not
able
to
get
us
the
answers.
Then
they
since
got
them
to
us.
We
emailed
them
to
you.
So
if
you
do
have
any
questions
on
that,
they
are
available
to
talk
about
them.
Could.
A
M
We'll
go
ahead
and
kick
it
off,
so
I
am
really
pleased
to
be
here.
Housing
implementation
has
begun
and
we
are
working
feverishly
to
get
this
five-year
plan
moving.
It
was
a
big
impetus
that
we
did
a
five-year
plan
because
we
wanted
it
to
be
actionable
and
relevant,
and
so
what
you
have
before
you
today
is
definitely
a
first
step
just
a
note
in
process.
What
we
have
tried
to
do
in
this
first
year
is
really
focus
internally
on
what
was
possible.
What
does
the
city
have?
M
Control
of
as
it
is
outlined
in
a
housing
plan
that
we
could
really
take
on
and
begin
to
move
forward?
So
this
is
a
first
of
I
would
say
you
know
four
to
six
transmittals
that
you'll
see
related
to
affordable
housing.
Part
of
the
process
is
making
sure
that
we
engage
with
stakeholders
internally
as
it
applies,
and
then
externally,
as
it
applies,
and
so
that
takes
time
and
energy,
but
I
think
overall
produces
a
better
understanding
of
what
we're
asking
the
council
to
consider.
M
So
today
you
have
before
you
the
surplus
land
disposition
ordinance
and
the
changes
they're
in
Sean
we'll
go
ahead
and
review
some
of
the
change.
But
what
I
would
say
is
that
we
really
believe
that
these
ordinance
changes
produce
a
framework
under
which
we
can
begin
to
really
make
a
difference
in
how
land
is
considered
surplus
and
also
how
we
can
use
it
to
better
leverage
affordability,
so
with
that
I
will
just
turn
it
over
to
Sean.
Thanks.
B
Suppose
all
these
changes
take
place
in
ordinance
2.58
and
it's
it's
really
three
primary
changes.
The
the
first
is
to
define
the
process
for
identifying
what
surplus
land
is
and
calculating
whether
or
not
that's
suitable
for
affordable
housing.
This
effectively
sets
the
mandate.
This
sets
precedent
in
our
ordinance
so
that
the
administration
can
go
through
a
process
of
making
that
evaluation
identifying
either
department
heads
or
their
designee
x'
within
divisions
to
go
through
a
systematic
process
to
say
these
different
parcels
are
or
are
not
suitable
for
affordable
housing
Felton.
B
Those
changes
in
the
ordinance
then
signal
to
the
market
that
we're
taking
this
seriously,
that
our
partners
know
that
the
development
community
knows
that
this
is
something
to
expect
that
on
parcels
that
are
going
to
be
suitable
for
housing
development,
there
should
be
an
expectation
that
affordable
housing
will
be
included
in
that,
and
then
that
sets
additionally,
the
the
passing
the
ordinance
sets
the
expectation
on
the
administration
to
come
up
with
a
robust
process
for
what
this
evaluation
looks.
Like
that's
broadly,
the
the
three
changes
that
we're
looking
at
and.
A
Shawn
on
the
this
project
process
in
a
general
way
of
speaking,
is
it
similar
to
the
one
that
I
can't
quote
the
numbers
for,
but
the
federal
process,
where
the
federal
properties
up
for
disposition
must
be
first
assessed
for
use
as
homeless,
Resource,
Center's
or
homeless
shelters?
Are
you
familiar
with
that
policy.
A
That
is
a
federal
policy
around
disposition
of
federal
properties,
and
it
may
be
only
specific
departments
in
the
federal
government
are
on
disposition
of
properties
that
they
must
be
assessed
for
use
for
homeless
services
before
they
can
be
disposed,
and
this
was
brought
up
to
us
after
our
HRC's
or
their
site.
Selection
process
was
complete
and
and
I'll
see,
did
a
subsequent
training
an
online
webinar
training
for
council
members
all
over
the
country.
In
the
last
year
about
it
and
I
see
hands
looking
perplexed
at
me,
I'm.
E
It's
a
policy
that
the
GSA
it's
the
GSA
has
to
it's
like
it's
in
there,
basically
their
disposal
process
where
they
have
steps
that
they
have
to
go
through
and
one
of
their
first
steps
is
assessing
for
homelessness
and
I.
Think
there
was
affordable
housing
as
maybe
a
part
of
that
yeah
I'm
I,
don't
clearly
recall.
B
So
that
one
that
one's
news
to
us,
but
thank
you
for
the
reference
I-
would
say
that
this
ordinance
is
modeled
after
a
process
that
many
other
cities
go
through,
who
have
all
identified
the
need
to
prioritize,
affordable
housing
development
on
their
own
properties.
So
in
that,
in
that
sense
it
certainly
fits
within
best
practices
nationally
and.
Q
F
F
I
yeah,
please,
okay,
so
in
the
point
zero
one
zero,
which
is
sort
of
the
very
obviously
the
very
beginning
kind
of
outlining
the
process
I
was
reading
through
this
and
kind
of
through
the
transmittal
as
well.
Can
you
walk
me
through
the
pros
and
cons
of
actually
designating
a
time
frame
instead
of
just
saying
periodically,
because
that
concerns
me,
whereas
I
was
thinking,
should
we
not
have
an
inventory
every
three
years
or
whatever
that
may
look
like?
F
Q
A
great
question:
it's
something
we
talked
about
a
lot
and
we
suggested
that
in
the
policy
and
procedure
change
to
provide
a
target
of
how
often
the
department
heads
would
identify
surplus
property
in
consultation
or
the
chief
procurement
officer.
The
goal
would
be
for
an
annual
identification,
should
resources
be
available
and
part
of
the
reason
why
we
didn't
want
to
codify.
That
is
because
there
certainly
was
a
time
during
the
recession
where
resources
were
not
available
to
do
an
annual
process.
Q
F
Sorry,
as
a
follow-up,
you
know
it
seems
to
me
in
the
things
that
I've
learned
about
all
of
these
different
processes
is
that
you
know
we
may
say
something
that
you
know
every
five
years.
We
do
this,
but
as
a
City,
Council
or
as
a
department,
we
make
sure
we
try
to
do
it
every
year,
for
example,
what
we
you
guys
weren't
in
here,
but
when
you're
talking
with
public
utilities,
that
you
know
it's
mandated
every
five
years,
but
we
look
at
it
every
year.
F
Certainly
recognize
the
resources
so
with
that,
could
we
not
also
say
you
know
every
three
years
if
resources
allow
and
then
of
course
you
can
always
throughout
the
process
and
procedure,
that's
being
implemented
say,
but
our
goal
is
once
a
year.
It
just
seems
so.
If
we're
going
to
clarify
this-
and
this
may
be
the
lawyer
had
in
me
that
says,
then
we
should
clarify
it
and
each
of
these
different
aspects,
I.
M
M
A
F
F
Areum
I'm
gathering,
I'm,
wondering
and
and
I
guess
this
isn't
within
the
language
of
the
ordinance,
but
maybe
something
to
think
about
that
as
we
it
says
you
know
we
evaluate
land
to
see
if
it's
suitable
for
these
things,
I'm
wondering
if
we
should
sort
of
also
put
language
that
says,
if
it's
not
suitable
for
this,
then
here's
what
else
we
we
would
want
to
do
with
it
here
are
the
other
priorities
for
it
and
I.
Think
that.
A
G
My
bigger
sort
of
picture
piece
of
this
is
about
real
property.
The
city
owns
and
are
we
evaluating
current
market
needs,
for
it?
Are
we
evaluating
the
current
value
and
evaluating
our
use
of
property?
And
this
is
about
surplus
property?
We
define
a
surplus
property
as
property
right
using
or
we
wouldn't
use
for
various
reasons,
but
a
broader
analysis
of
all
city-owned
properties
of
real
ownership.
That's
where
our
value
is
that's
our
wealth
of
the
city
is
and
I'm
very
interested
in
pursuing
an
analysis
of
that
and
figuring
out.
G
M
There
is
lots
of
best
practices
and
Jen
Bruno
shared
an
article
directly
related
to
this
and
I
think.
Yes,
that's
a
great
question
to
be
asking
it's
just
a
matter
of
bringing
in
a
consultant
to
help
us
do
that
work,
whether
that
was
just
for
soup
surplus
or
overall
land.
It's
certainly
a
valuable
undertaking,
but
also
would
require
some
cost
adjustment.
Yeah.
G
G
It
would
take
canalside
consulting
hampson
investment
of
money,
but
our
assets
as
a
city
lion,
land
and
people,
but
land,
and
we
don't
really
have
a
good
understanding
of
all
of
it
and
with
some
evaluation
over
a
period
of
time,
we
may
come
up
with
some
longer-term
ways
to
maximize
the
value
for
housing,
for
economic
development
for
other
things,
but
it
would.
It
would
take
an
investment
on
our
part,
so
I'm
interested
in
pursuing
that.
F
Andrew,
do
you
mean
like,
like
an
inventory
of
all
of
the
land,
that
we
own
and
sort
of
start
to
evaluate
that
or
start
some
procedure
to
evaluate
that
yeah.
A
Q
G
Our
full
inventory
includes
public
services,
they're
doing
their
own
analysis,
and
it
would
take
a
lot
of
work
across
the
I
mean.
This
is
a
big
undertaking
just
to
get
into
inventory
and
then
figure
out.
What
is
the
market
value
of
it
and
then
figure
out?
Do
you
want
to
pursue
even
a
another
way
to
manage
it?
That
would
be
external
to
us,
those
kind
of
concepts
so
that
you
can
see
how
this
builds,
but
the
first
steps
are
inventory
of
our
current
assets
and.
A
Q
So
that
is
proposed
to
be
that
is
proposed
to
be
part
of
the
policy.
So
we
had
a
pretty
robust
conversation
with
folks
impacted
by
the
ordinance
and
chief
procurement
officer,
who
was
very
involved
in
this
process,
and
the
group's
opinion
was
that
that
definition
to
guide
department
heads
should
be
an
ax
policy,
because
it
is
something
that
could
potentially
evolve
over
time
and
that
as
an
easier
means
of
having
something
that
could
change
as
our
definition
of
surplice
evolved
to
match
current
needs.
P
J
M
We
will
make
that
a
follow
up
for
my
team
to
get
that
what
I
would
call
the
developable
land
list.
As
you
know,
we
have
like
over
fifteen
hundred
parcels.
Some
of
them
are
this
big
I.
Don't
think
that
that's
what
this
body
is
asking
for
today?
That
would
probably
take
a
lot
more
time
to
get.
However,
we
do
have
preliminary
list.
I
think
what
would
be
helpful
in
terms
of
direction
is
happy
to
give
the
list
with
zoning.
M
We
would
pull
the
assessed
value
most
likely
from
the
county
as
the
main
number
if
we
wanted
any
sort
of
other
appraisal
done.
That
would
probably
significantly
add
time
to
this
information.
Getting
to
you
so
I'm
open
to
kind
of
making
sure
that,
as
we
present,
I
would
like
to
present
it
in
a
way
that
makes
sense
from
our
perspective
as
an
administration,
the
possibility
as
well
so
that
as
you
contemplate,
you
have
the
information
you
need
Jennifer.
E
That
I
think
that
the
city's
financial
system
actually
keeps
track
of
just
from
public
assets,
because
we
have
assets
and
liabilities.
We
do
have
a
balance
sheet
that
has
all
the
city's
assets
we
don't
have.
It
may
be
cross-referenced
with
what
properties
might
be
developable
or
not,
and
so
maybe,
if
you
guys
could
get
together
with
the
finance
department,
you
can
put
together
those
two
sets
of
information
and
maybe
make
it
a
little
user-friendly
in
that
kind
of
that.
M
Is
we
were
speaking,
danrip
couldn't
be
here
today,
our
real
property
manager,
but,
as
we
were
speaking
this
morning,
one
of
the
things
he
said
is
there's
a
huge
caveat
and
that
this
data
needs
to
be
scrubbed
and
reconciled
with
one
solution.
So
I'm
happy
to
will
work
with
finance,
but
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
sure
the
timing
on
I'm
hesitant
to
commit
to
timing.
F
I
have
another
jumping
I
have
three
major.
Like
things,
we've
talked
about
the
first
two,
so
the
third
one
goes
to
the
disposition
of
proceeds.
Point
zero,
six,
zero
and
I
mean
I,
am
very
supportive
of
putting
a
percentage
or
some
sort
of
amount
into
the
housing,
trust
fund
or
a
housing
trust
fund.
Again
lawyer
hat
on
I
get
concerned
and
I'm
wondering
if
there
is
a
way
to
kind
of
define
that
a
little
better
in
the
sense
that
something
I
wrote
down.
Just
as
I
was
thinking
about
this
was
sort
of
you
know.
F
Q
Yeah
I
think
the
the
pro
was
to
create
flexibility.
The
proceeds
that
are
going
to
be
coming
in
to
the
surplus
land
account
and
the
balance
of
the
housing
trust
fund
are
both
things
that
are
going
to
be
in
flux
and
evolve
over
time,
and
so
that
led
to
some
wariness
just
sets
up
something
in
stone
in
the
ordinance.
But
rather
have
it
be
part
of
an
annual
recommendation
which
is
codified
in
here
that
there
would
be
an
annual
recommendation.
Q
But
that
was
something
that
could
evolve
and
would
go
to
City
Council
for
a
review
and
approval
I.
Think
if
there
are,
if
there
are
opinions
on
having
more
specificity
here,
and
that
is
certainly
something
that
we
would
love
to
get
your
input
on.
But
that
was
the
rationale
that
went
behind
this
language.
I.
Think.
M
To
your
point,
another
thing
to
contemplate
is
that
the
surplus
land
account
balance
varies
greatly.
So
if
we
were
to
look
at
it,
let's
say
in
April,
maybe
it's
eight
minimum,
then
you
look
at
it
in
the
fall
and
maybe
it's
two
million
because
needs
have
fluctuated
so
I
think
there's,
there's
sort
of
a
policy
question
that
I'm
not
sure
how
to
articulate,
but
that's
there
around
timing
that
maybe
you
might
have
thoughts
on
as
well.
M
I'm,
more
I'm,
not
being
solution
focused
here,
I'm
not
be
helpful
in
that,
but
I
do
kind
of
see
a
timing
constraint
cuz.
This
account
has
traditionally
been
used
for
just
strategic
acquisitions
or
we've
come
through
budget
amendment.
It
always
comes
to
council
and
then
you
know.
If
we
sell
a
piece
of
land,
then
obviously
you
know
if
it's
ten
million
from
my
perspective,
that's
the
time
to
move
it
to
housing,
trust
fund
right
when
it's
at
its
peak
but
from
a
policy
perspective.
M
I,
don't
know
if
that's
really
the
way
that
you,
if
we
want
to
say
at
least
in
the
fall
or
some
sort
of
timing
around
the
contemplation
of
this
fund.
So
that
happens
on
an
annual
basis,
as
opposed
to
saying:
oh,
it
needs
to
be
ten
percent
or
it
needs
to
be
this.
What's
really
important,
I
would
say
the
internal
departments
is
that
this
is
considered
in
the
context
of
all
the
city
needs
right.
B
Would
I
would
only
add
tier
ii
out
of
the
three
points
councilmember
Fowler
about
the
flexibility?
Is
that
when
thinking
about
any
of
the
flexibility
that
is
or
is
not
outlined
in
the
ordinance,
the
justifications
and
the
definitions-
and
the
explanation
will
be
right
there
for
you
at
the
time
that
a
can
director
makes
a
recommendation.
So
if,
for
instance,
the
definition
of
how
divisions
have
been
selecting
surplus
land
isn't
quite
what
you're
looking
for.
B
F
Agree,
I
I
just
I,
really
think
that
this
particular
council
is
awesome
and
I
love
them
all
and
I.
Just
these
things
worry
me
for
the
future
of
when
I'm,
not
here
mostly
just
me,
though
I'm
Oran
hatching
this,
but
so
I
understand
that
I
do
just
kind
of
in
that,
like
ten
year
15
year
down
the
road,
you
could
certainly
bring
that
back
as
an
amendment
to
the
ordinance
right
if
it
did
need
to
change
based
on
evolution.
F
Is
that
you're
continuing
that
addition
to
the
housing
trust
fund,
but
again
understanding
what
the
cons
there
could
be,
because
if
it's
10%
and
really
we
wanted
to
put
50%
in
there,
are
we
then
locked
out
of
doing
something
like
that
or
visa
versa?
So
I
mean
again
that's
sort
of
more
of
why
I
was
just
asking
for
all
of
the
input
that
you
just
gave
me
and
I
appreciate
it
practically.
A
The
last
question:
okay,
could
I
just
add
one
thing:
yes,
but
we
got
to
move
on.
So
if
you
guys
need
to
continue
a
conversation
before
we
take
action
on
this
on
the
17th
and
if
there's
changes
we
have
next
week
ish
to
work
through
those
and
that
could
come
back
to
us
in
a
written
briefing.
If
there's
a
if
they're,
substantial,
okay
would.
H
F
Q
A
G
The
thing
I
get
the
point,
but
if
we
keep
leaving
back
doors
because
of
I
think
here's
my
mom
subpoena
I
think
we
all
know
that
we're
stretched
thin,
that
if
we
haven't
identified
for
them
the
priorities
and
that
they
identify
the
priorities,
how
they're
gonna
use
our
time,
and
if
this
is
going
to
be
a
low
priority,
it's
gonna
always
be
a
little
priority
and
it's
never
gonna
get
done
regards.
What's
in
that,
it's.
A
Kind
of
like
goats,
we're
walking
along
as
a
city
and
we're
picking
up
pennies
and
we
keep
putting
pennies
in
our
pocket
and
it's
like.
We
don't
really
know
how
many
pennies
are
in
there,
but
I
don't
have
time
to
stop
and
count
them
right
now,
and
it
could
actually
be
a
pretty
big
piece
of
value.
There's
a
lot
of
value
in
doing
this
assessment.
Well,.
F
The
resources
and
read
suggestions,
so
my
suggestion
is
every
three
years
or
a
time
limit
if
it's
five
years,
if
that
makes
more
sense,
but
to
actually
define
periodically
as
a
time
frame,
we're
in
this
shall
be
done
such
that
we
can
monitor
this
surplus
land
and
determine
I
think
this
will,
in
my
opinion,
go
straight
to
Andrews
comment
on
taking
more
of
this
inventory
and
understanding
the
pennies
in
our
pockets
and
what
we
have
there.
So
I
would.
A
Q
M
G
A
A
So
I
know
it
sounds
like
we
have
a
ton
of
property
of
our
own
and
why
would
we
want
to
go
looking
for
federal
property?
But
you
never
know
so
put
that
in
our
back
pocket
to
thank
you
for
being
with
us.
Thank
you.
We
will
move
on
backwards
in
our
agenda
to
item
2,
our
bicycle
licensing,
ordinance
with
Russell
weeks
from
our
council
staff
and
Captain
Scott,
tear
link
from
SLC
PD
or
not,
or
chief
Brown,
and
deputy
chief
Josh
Sherman.
N
A
C
B
P
I
think
that
was
good,
but
I
would
I
would
go
a
little
bit
further.
I
think
the
the
reason
that
this
is
you
know
really
exciting
is
because
it's
really
the
and
and
issues
that
the
police
department
has
a
very
difficult
time
solving
it's
bicycle
theft
and
if
any
of
you
have
been
down
to
the
evidence
storage
facility,
it
looks
like
a
bike
warehouse
down
there,
because
there
are
so
many
bicycles
that
are
unidentified,
that
the
police
department
just
has
no
ability
to
trace
back
what
this
does.
P
Is
it
eliminates
the
fee
that
you
pay
when
you
buy
a
new
bike,
it
puts
everything
online
so
that
it
makes
it
very
easy
to
register.
You
know
a
new
bicycle
buy
the
serial
code
or
the
serial
number,
and
then
it
allows
the
police
department
to
utilize
that
information,
so
on
a
bike
is
recovered,
which
they
oftentimes
are.
You
can
actually
put
it
back
to
the
resident
who
lost
it,
and
it's
it's
really.
P
The
first
of
its
kind
in
Utah
I
know
that
the
the
the
system
is
set
up
in
a
way
that
other
cities
could
and
in
the
county
could
utilize.
It
which
would
probably
I
think
we
ought
to
encourage
them
to
do
that,
because
the
bigger
the
database,
the
better,
and
so
this
is
something
that
that
really
will
allow
the
police
department
to
do
a
job
that
residents
expect
them
to
do,
but
they
just
have
not
had
the
tools
to
to
do
it
in
the
past.
So
thank
you
for
your
work
on
this
chiefin
know.
K
Thank
You
councilmember
Luke,
thanks
for
kind
of
pointing
out
the
problem,
I
mean
just
to
set
the
framework
just
a
little
bit.
The
old
system
was
kind
of
antiquated
and
archaic.
You
would
have
to
drag
your
bike
down
to
the
police
station
or
a
fire
station
fire
station
and
then
have
somebody
come
out
and
and
help
you
with
the
registration
fill
it
out
in
triplicate.
Get
your
little
sticker.
Put
it
on
your
bike.
This
copy
was
then
sent
to
the
county
put
into
a
system
the.
Sadly
we
had
no
access
to.
K
So
as
we
went
out
looking
for
stolen
bikes
or
abandoned
bikes,
we
could
never
find
the
owner
because
very
few
people
would
follow
through
with
with
that
whole
system.
So,
as
you
mentioned,
we've
been
talking
about
this.
For
years,
we've
been
talk
of
working
with
mayor,
boo,
scoopski
and
her
administration,
because
there's
got
to
be
a
better
way,
and
so
by
doing
it
we
can
now
you
can
you
can
do
it
at
a
bike
shop.
You
can
do
it
on
your
smartphone.
K
All
you
have
to
do
is
go
to
Salt,
Lake,
City,
PD
com,
click
on
the
bike
registration
put
in
the
information
name
address
the
serial
number.
You
can
even
snap
a
picture
of
your
bike
and
attach
it
so
that
when
we
find
a
bike
abandoned
or
a
stolen,
a
possible
stolen
bike,
we
can
actually
just
pull
it
up
and
address
it
right.
There
I
mean
in
2017
we
had
eleven
hundred
and
ninety-four
bikes
stolen.
K
We
had
two
hundred
and
twelve
that
were
found
and
were
abandoned,
so
fourteen
hundred
and
six
bicycles
ended
up,
stolen
or
abandoned.
Sadly,
only
eighty-three
of
those
bikes
reported,
stolen
or
abandoned
were
ever
brought
back
to
their
owners
less
than
six
six
percent.
So
it
truly
has
been
a
problem
for
us
and
I
think
this
would
be
a
huge
step
forward
in
technology
and
and
and
as
Salt
Lake
City
pushes
to
be
a
more
bicycle-friendly
City.
K
This
would
really
help
in
that
move,
because
you
could
be
riding
your
bike
down
the
Jordan
River
Trail
way
from
Sandy
I
mean
the
ordinance
says
you
the
bikes
got
to
be
registered.
You
can
now
do
that
from
home.
If
you're
traveling
from
out
of
state,
you
want
to
register
bike,
you
can
it's
just
it's
a
very
good
upgrade
to
what
we're
trying
to
do.
P
Council
members,
one
other
one,
other
quick
thing
if
I
just
want,
also
want
to
thank
detective
Josh
Smith
for
the
work
that
he
put
in
on
this.
He
did
there
wasn't
a
community
council
meeting
where
he
didn't
bring
this
up
and
wonder
where
things
you
know
how
this
was
progressing
and
where
things
were
going.
I
know
that
he
was
very
instrumental
in
this,
and
so
I
just
want
to
thank
him
publicly
for
the
word
for
his
work
on
this.
Thank
you.
G
I
I
G
F
F
F
But
then
I
was
thinking
of
some
sort
of
trying
to
be
creative
of
how
do
we,
then,
if
we
did
still
have
the
fee,
move
it
to
an
actual,
like
maybe
homeless,
bike
program
right,
where
that
would
be
there
to
even
just
as
little
as
providing
lights.
Many
of
my
clients
get
pulled
over
on
bikes
because
they
don't
have
lights
on
them.
Sure.
G
F
That
has
that's
more,
maybe
of
just
some
other
discussion
about
how
we
can
maybe
look
at
things
and,
and
it
was
$2.00
and
I
was
like
if
you're
buying
a
brand-new
bike.
Of
course,
people
are
gonna,
pay
two
extra
dollars
to
license
it
to
make
sure
that
they
get
it
back
cuz,
it's
only
two
dollars
three
and
then
I
was
kind
of
thinking.
If
there
was
any
sort
of
creative
way
that
we
could
could
use
that
money
for
our
homeless
population
that
often
times
are
using
bikes
sure.
L
The
two
dollars
is
actually
what
retail
can
charge,
what
we
charged
the
retailers
is
$50
for
a
book
of
a
hundred
and
and
a
hundred
tags.
So
we
do
that
in
business
licensing.
It
doesn't
mean
that
we,
so
we
could
not
exclude
that
off
of
the
CFS,
and
we
could
continue
to
charge
that
charge
for
the
service
that
the
police
department
is
providing
online
instead
of
charging
it
for
the
books.
The
way
that
the
ordinance
has
written
is
it's
charged
for
cost
of
book
and
tags
right.
L
So
you'd
have
to
change
the
ordinance
to
tweak
the
ordinance
a
little
bit
to
continue
to
charge
that
fee
on
the
business
license
base
that
on
the
service
that
the
police
department's
providing
on
the
online
service
instead
and
move
that
funding.
If
you
chose
to
do
so,
that
was
a
long
roundabout
way
of
explaining
it.
But.
L
A
P
Like
the
idea
I
would
rather,
though,
we
just
appropriate
the
money
to
do
it,
I
mean
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
how
much
that
would
cost
to
do.
What
I
like
about
not
charging
a
fee
is
I.
Think
even
if
it's
50
cents,
if
you
charge
something
some
people
may
avoid
doing
it
and
I
know
that
it
it's
not
a
it's,
not
a
financial
thing.
P
L
To
note
this,
be
you
don't
have
an
ordinance
for
the
consolidated
fee
schedule
to
remove
this
$50
fee
off
the
consolidated
fee
schedule
that
was
not
transmitted
with
the
transmittal.
That's
going
to
have
to
come
to
you
in
a
different
transmittal
to
remove
this,
be
off
the
consolidated
fee
schedule
to
stop
charging
businesses
for
this
be
and.
P
The
fire
department
did
that
one
we're
just
cops
okay,
but
but
can
we
can
we
expect
that
or
it
was
transmitted
this
afternoon?
Okay,
okay,
so
I
mean
yeah,
I
mean
what
I
think
we
could
do
is
just
depending
on
what
that's.
We
would
pass
move
this
forward
and
then,
as
soon
as
we
can
get
that
on
the
agenda,
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
other
stuff
with.
A
J
A
My
I
just
thought.
It
was
really
remarkable
that
1,200
bikes
were
stolen
last
year
in
Salt,
Lake,
City
and
I
feel
like
if
we
had.
If
there
was
a
little,
you
know
a
little
sign
at
every
bike
shop
or
at
the
point
where
someone's
forking
over
the
money
for
a
new
bike
or
getting
their
bike
tuned
up
or
something
and
they're
at
that
register,
and
they
see
register
your
bike
for
free
and.
A
A
I
just
want
to
see
people
register
their
bikes,
including
me,
I,
have
a
garage
full
I
mean
I
shouldn't
say
that
I
don't
have
it
I,
don't
have
any
bikes
they're,
definitely
not
worth
anything.
Okay,
anything
else.
Council
members
will
look
to
see
this
then,
hopefully,
on
our
formal
meeting,
April
17th
for
a
vote.
Thank
you,
chief,
deputy
chief
Russell
thank.
A
A
D
A
We
apologize
and-
and
this
is
really
a
briefing
for
the
public's
sake,
especially
I-
think
we
all
know
what
happened.
But
we've
had
to
kick
this
off
our
work
session
agenda,
the
last
two
times:
we've
had
it
scheduled
because
we
became
so
busy,
so
we
don't
mean
to
be
untimely
so
far
after
the
session.
But
this
is
a
great
synopsis.
O
Quite
all
right,
thank
you
for
having
us
we're
happy
to
visit
about
the
legislative
session,
I
think
in
terms
of
the
in
terms
of
our
discussion,
just
two
legislative
briefing.
So
what
I
had
intended
to
do
and
I
think
you've
got
this
information
in
your
packet
mm-hmm
that
report
that
memo
is
a
report
on
the
specific
priority
items
that
we
had
identified
before
the
session.
So
I
went
through
our
list
of
priority
items
and
then
highlighted
all
of
the
legislation
that
was
proposed.
O
O
Come
through
this
quickly,
there
were
eight
priority
items
with
the
exception
of
the
northwest
quadrant,
which
I
think
was,
which
we've
always
talked
already
talked
about
a
great
deal.
All
of
the
other
items
had
a
remarkably
successful
outcome
for
Salt
Lake
City,
that's
not
to
say
there
wasn't
a
lot
of
drama
along
the
way
which
there
was,
but
I
think
we
can
be
very
pleased
and
very
proud
of
the
results
that
we
were
able
to
accomplish
and
and
we're
happy
provided
that
report.
O
The
one
item
that
I
would
couple
of
items
that
I
would
just
like
quickly
to
bring
to
your
attention
because
they
are
the
report
that
I
gave.
You
was
fairly
cryptic
on
this.
If
you've
got
just
I'd
like
to
take
highlight
two
items
on
the
list,
one
is
the
homelessness
issues
and
the
two
bills
that
were
passed
there
and
the
funding
resources
and
I'm
gonna,
let
David
chime
in
is
appropriate
here,
but
what
we
had
initially
anticipated.
There
were
two
bills
that
were
proposed.
We
had
initially
anticipated
that
one
of
those
would
pass
turns
out.
O
Both
of
them
did,
which
was
which
was
a
very
positive
result
for
Salt
Lake
City
and
the
other
cities
that
host
these
homeless
resource
centers,
one
of
them
representative,
Ellison's
bill
created
a
pool
of
funds.
It
ultimately
ended
to
be
ended
up
being
state
funding
to
provide
funding
for
the
operation
of
the
resource,
centers,
so
state
money
for
the
operator.
O
George,
who
all
have
facilities.
So
we
can
apply
for
and
receive
some
mitigation
for
our
costs
in
that
respect.
Bear
in
mind
that
host
cities
do
not
contribute
that
fund,
but
cities
that
do
not
host
facilities
contribute
the
point.
Let's
see
the
population
portion
of
their
sales
tax,
that
was
a
bit
dicey
among
various
cities
because
somewhere
in
favor
and
some
were
not,
but
the
the
Speaker
of
the
House
was
very
clear
that
he
was
confident
that,
if
cities
had
the
choice
to
contribute
or
to
host
the
facility,
they
would
all
prefer
to
contribute.
O
A
O
O
Well,
that
has
come
up
in
a
couple
of
different
ways
and
and
there's
a
paragraph
in
the
report
about
affordable
housing
which
took
some
small
steps
to
address
that.
But
there
are
two
things
that
that
came
up
in
this
dialogue,
because
initially
the
the
funding
source
that
representative
'listen
passed.
Initially
that
was
proposed
to
be
allocated
based
upon
our
aside,
the
costs
assessed
based
upon
the
amount
of
affordable,
how
it
isn't
housing
you
had
in
each
community.
There
were
two
responses
to
that:
one
was
that
cities.
O
While
they
had
some
influence
on
that,
couldn't
create
that
housing.
They
could
authorize
it,
but
they
can't
create
it.
There
were
other
communities
who
who
were
concerned
that,
even
if
they
approved
more
density,
that
none
of
it
will
be,
it
would
be
affordable.
It
would
all
be
market
rate
housing
and
that
dialogue
played
itself
out.
O
I
suspect
we
have
not
heard
the
last
of
that,
and
what
we
have
seen
is
the
state
stepping
in
in
some
ways
that
might
be
helpful
to
us.
Another
way
is
like
in
the
northwest
quadrant
in
ways
that
were
not
helpful
to
us,
where
the
state
feels
that
they
know
best
and
that
that
that
someone
at
that
level
needs
to
exercise
some
leadership
to
pursue
these
policy
agendas,
whether
it's
economic
development
or
affordable,
housing
or
otherwise.
I,
don't
know
if
that
answer
your
question.
O
A
Understanding
is
that
it's
in
the
state
constitution
that
cities
must
not
make
it
impossible
to
build
affordable
housing,
and
yet
there
is
little
to
no
enforcement
on
cities
that
have
eliminated
that
zoning
option
or
from
a
multifamily
perspective,
or
have
made
it
impossible
to
do.
Affordable
housing
in
cities
now
I.
O
O
O
G
B
C
G
A
O
I
wanted
to
highlight
is,
what's
listed
under
transportation
issues
and
that
Senate
bill
136
that
bill
did
lots
and
lots
of
things
beyond
what
I
was
able
to
articulate
in
the
memo.
The
first
piece
is
that
it
restructured
UTA
I,
think
you've
heard
a
lot
about
that
in
terms
of
going
from
the
existing
board
to
a
three-member
Commission
with
a
nine
member
advisory
body,
one
seat
of
which
is
reserved
for
Salt
Lake
City.
L
O
Work
I
believe
I,
don't
remember
if
they
work
under
you
dot
or
if
it's
a
separate
entity
with
state
employees,
the
other
one
is
that
they
create
a
a
new
transit
transportation
investment
fund.
So
it's
instead
of
just
the
state
transportation
investment
ëif.
This
is
a
TTI
F,
an
initial
amount
of
fuff
five
million
dollars
in
beginning
beginning
in
2019.
There
will
be
a
local
match
required,
but
there
will
be
funding
available
for
transit
projects
and
that's
the
where
they
have.
They
have
added
to
the
criteria.
O
The
extent
of
the
local
match
the
amount
of
economic
development
that
will
be
realized
by
the
project
and
the
land
use.
The
initial
land
use,
mandates
that
were
in
the
bill
were
removed.
Third
piece
is
the
funding
sources,
and
this
is
for
normal
transportation
stuff
aside
from
the
transit,
and
that
is
that,
as
you're
aware
prop
is
what
we
referred
to
as
proposition
one
was
proposed,
authorized
and
then
put
on
the
ballot.
It
failed
in
Salt
Lake
in
Utah
County.
O
So
the
sooner
they
past
that
the
more
money
they
get
to
keep,
but
they
get
to
keep
100%
of
that
money
during
the
first
year
if
they
wait
until
June
2019
to
adopt
it,
they
miss
out
on
that
window
after
June
30th
of
2019,
the
money
is
divided
as
per
the
prop
1
division:
20%
city,
20%,
sorry,
40%,
city,
40%,
UT,
a
20%
County
if
by
I,
think
it's
2021
2020.
If
the
county
does
not
adopt
it,
cities
within
those
counties
can
adopt
it
themselves
for
their
own
City.
O
A
O
So
that's
the
first.
That's
that's
intended
to
get
prop
1
passed
at
least
in
Salt,
Lake
County.
We
don't
know
what
you
talked
about
here
in
addition
to
that,
the
legislature
also
created
an
additional
funding
source
for
transit.
Only
that's
the
point.
2
percent
I'm,
not
sure
we
got
that
right,
whether
it's
20
percent
or
point
2
percent.
But
anyway
it's
an
additional
funding
source
for
transit.
Only
it
can
only
be
adopted
after
the
counties
have
adopted.
O
All
of
the
other
available
funding
sources,
including
prop
1,
beginning
in
I,
thought
I
had
a
date
on
that.
Well,
it
expires
if
not
adopted
by
2020,
and
so
it's
use
it
or
lose
it
by
2022.
There
you
go
okay,
so
between
the
increase
in
prop
1
and
the
increase
in
the
transit
tax
that
that
should
result
in
significant
revenues
coming
to
Salt.
Lake
City
and
significant
additional
transit
options
for
transit
projects
will.
O
So
I
think
there's
a
concern.
I
think,
there's
understandably
a
concern
about
the
county
council
going
out
and
passing
this
when
the
last
time
they
put
on
the
ballot,
the
voters
said
no
so
I
think
they're
worried
a
little
bit
about
that
those
political
dynamics,
but
hopefully-
and
this
was
part
of
the
purpose
of
the
bill.
O
Hopefully
the
reforms
to
UTA
would
give
the
public
more
comfort
in
investing
in
transit,
knowing
that
there
have
been
more
safeguards
put
into
place
to
protect
the
use
of
those
funds,
so
also
there's
a
statutory
allocate
process
for
the
allocation
of
those
quarter,
the
quarter
funds
that
have
been
sort
of
amorphous
in
the
past.
We
hope
that
process
will
result
in
a
little
bit
more
transparency
and
predictability
for
the
use
of
the
allocation
of
those
funds.
They
increase
the
registration
fees
for
alternative
fuel
vehicles.
There's
a
lot
of
hubbub
about
that.
O
O
But
we
can
do
that
in
partnership
with
you
dot
or
in
partnership,
the
county
or
whoever
that
might
be
so
there
are
other
transportation
bills
as
well,
but
that
was
the
most
significant
one
it
had.
It
had
lots
and
lots
of
elements
that
went
into
it
and
and
I
think
from
from
a
transportation
funding
perspective
was
really
significant,
I
hope
you
know,
and
assuming
we
get
some
of
those
enacted
in
generating
new
transportation
dollars
for
Salt
Lake
City.
So
any
questions
about
that
bill
or
any
of
the
transportation
bills.
O
O
Are
a
couple
of
other
things
that
I
will
be
preparing
that
I
have
I,
don't
have
here
for
us
tonight?
One
will
be
a
list
of
the
follow
up
that
is
required
based
upon
all
of
what
happened.
What
do
we
now
need
to
do?
Ordinances
that
need
to
be
changed?
Agreements
then,
to
be
negotiated,
encouraging
the
county
to
vote
the
tax.
Those
sort
of
things
so
there'll
be
sort
of
a
follow
up
list.
I
will
prepare
that
the
other
list
will
be
what
a
list
of
bills
that
created
a
fiscal
impact
for
us.
O
A
O
O
This
was
unquestionably
the
most
difficult
year.
I
have
ever
seen,
not
just
for
Salt
Lake
City,
but
for
cities
generally
and
in
years
past.
When
we
went
to
a
legislature
and
said
you
know,
this
bill
will
have
this
impact
on
our
local
community.
They
were
very
responsive
to
that,
because
they've
viewed
cities
as
being
the
people
who
protect
the
local
community
this
year.
A
O
O
That's
why
we're
running
it,
because
we
intend
to
fix
that
or
to
change
that,
so
it
was
as
I
say,
as
challenging
a
session
as
I
have
ever
seen
in
the
years
up
and
up
there
notwithstanding
that
and
not
withstanding
one
huge
disappointment,
I
think
we
did
very
very
well
so
I
want
to
thank
all
of
you
for
your
support
and
Mayor
and
administrative
staff.
Lots
and
lots
of
hands
made
this
possible
lots
of
lobbyists,
lots
of
allies
in
other
cities.
So
thank
you
all
for
your
support
and
your
help.
You
know
this
was
this.
O
Is
yes,
you
go
through
a
chapter
and
the
dust
settles
and
you
look
around
and
somebody
once
somebody
lost
and
things
you
know
you
like
it
or
you
don't
like
where
things
ended
up
it's
not
over
there's
another
year.
There's
the
dialogue
continues
and
whatever
it
is
not
where
we
want
it
today
we
ought
to
work
diligently
to
get
it
to
where
we
can
get
ought
to
be,
and.
A
L
D
A
R
R
Jump
right
into
art,
so
we
have
a
report
on
the
public
involvement
to
date
and
then
we
have
some
a
list
of
sort
of
some
issues
and
questions.
We
thought
we
could
go
through
and
then
I
understand
that
you
have
our
information
document
with
you,
and
so
we
wouldn't
wanted
to
see
if
there
were
any
questions.
I'll
give
a
little
background
on
that
as
well.
R
I'll,
do
it
thanks?
Okay,
so,
as
I
said,
we
were
here
four
weeks
ago
and
the
at
the
onset
of
this
process
and
what
we
heard
from
the
council
was.
We
went
the
outreach
for
this
process
to
be
broad
and
thorough,
and
so
we've
been
in
in
one
month.
We
have
put
a
website
together.
We
social
media
communication,
we've
had
a
postcard
to
go
out
to
residents
a
combination
of
traditional
news,
media,
in-person
meetings
and
then
some
public
events
that
I'm
going
to
have
Siobhan
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
in
a
minute.
R
So
the
information,
the
information
is
evolving,
I
mean
we're
getting
we're
getting
more
and
more
information
from
the
technical
experts
and
we're
adding
that
to
the
website
as
we
get
it
so
I
would
say,
keep
going
there
and
looking
at
that
information,
what's
we're
asking
the
public
to
do,
but
the
the
website
is
sort
of
the
source
for
everything
and
then
we've
got
some
other
documents
as
well.
That
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
those.
F
R
A
R
Media
stories,
as
of
yesterday
we'd,
had
six
radio
stories
15
TV
and
to
print
there
was
one
of
the
Tribune
on
Monday
I,
don't
know
if
everybody
saw
that
but
they're
doing
a
good
job.
Talking
about
the
website.
Talking
about
the
survey
and
the
public
outreach
opportunities,
we
also
have
been
providing
both
a
council
in
the
mayor's
office
comment,
line
and
email
in
everything
we
do.
We've
only
received
eight
phone
calls
to
the
comment
line
and
30
comments
to
the
email
which
I
think
is
sort
of
interesting.
A
L
E
D
L
R
Even
good
the
next
one
so
far,
we've
been
to
13
community
council
meetings
and
Siobhan's
office
is
taking
care
of
almost
all
of
those.
We've
had
three
business
group
presentations
that
I'll
talk
about
nine,
we're
also
doing
just
individual
stakeholder
meetings
with
business
and
community
leaders
in
Salt,
Lake
City,
the
email
blast
that
Liz
just
talked
about
that
went
out
to
20
1,700
people
all
together.
That
was
a
combination
of
the
council
newsletter
lists
this
Salt
Lake
City,
civic
engagement,
the
quality,
our
Qualtrics
list
in
Open,
City,
Hall,
and
that
email
said
here.
R
The
post
card,
as
Liz
mentioned,
dropped
last
week
that
went
to
90,000
residents
and
businesses
and
I'm
just
pretty
sure
everyone's
seen
that
post
card
I
wanted
to
say
something
about
that,
because
we
have
heard
it
was
a
large
color
postcard
and
we
did
get
a
few
comments
about.
You
know
how
much
of
this
cost.
Why
did
it
have
to
be
so
large
and
I'll?
Take
responsibility.
A
R
What
I
think
people
need
to
understand
is
the
biggest
portion
of
those
costs
is
postage
is
the
actual
stamp,
and
that
doesn't
matter
it
doesn't
matter
if
it's
little
or
big
or
color
or
black
and
white,
and
we
feel
like
thing
this
important
needs
something
large
enough
to
get
people's
attention.
Little
postcard
means
little
issue.
Big
postcard
means
big
issue,
so
we
feel
like
it
was
an
investment
worth
making
I.
R
R
Business
contacts.
What
you're
looking
at
is
a
map
of
all
of
the
things
that
the
things
that
have
happened
so
far
and
the
things
that
are
planned
so
we've
had
meetings.
We
actually
have
done.
One-On-One
business
visits
to
the
third
South
business
district
and
the
ninth
and
ninth
business
district
and
I
think
Jen
and
Hillary
spent
how
many
hours
they.
R
That's
a
great
a
great
way
to
really
talk,
one-on-one
with
small,
usually
small,
business
owners
and
local
business
owners
about
what
this
may
mean
for
them,
and
they're,
getting
they're
getting
good
feedback
and
really
pretty
good
support
bill.
Knowles
is
also
doing
I'm,
not
clear
whether
this
is
happen
or
not.
I'm,
sorry
about
that.
Whether
he's
done
these
presentations
for
River
district
and
downtown
merchants,
or
those
that
actually
maybe
later
this
week.
R
A
R
So,
in
terms
of
the
feedback
we've
received,
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
sort
of
an
overview
of
what
we
feel
like
we're
hearing
so
far,
and
you
have
to
remember
this
is
qualitative
I
mean
this,
isn't
a
Dan
Jones
survey,
and
this
is
what
we're,
what
we're
hearing
in
person
and
through
the
comments
for
receiving
overall
people,
understand
the
four
needs
that
we're
presenting.
We
really
had
anybody
say:
I,
don't
believe
that
we
need
those
things.
R
I
mean
they
seem
to
understand
that
we
need
transportation,
we
need
affordable
housing,
we
need
transit
and
Public
Safety
generally
supportive.
We
also
find
the
more
information
they
have,
the
more
supportive
they
are.
So
as
they
read
the
transit
plan
or
as
they
read
the
affordable
housing
plan,
they
get
more
information
about
how
these
needs
were
identified.
R
They
they're
more
supportive.
Some
of
the
comments
in
support
are
you
know
about.
Our
infrastructure.
Needs
are
serious.
We
need
to
take
care
of
this.
We
need
to
invest
in
our
future
and
share
the
burden.
People
seem
to
like
the
idea
of
of
a
sales
tax
that
gets
everybody
to
share
the
burden,
including
people
who
don't
live
in
the
city.
R
Another
thing
we've
heard
a
lot
is
we
can
support
this,
but
we
need
accountability.
We
need
to
know
that
the
money
that
is
raised
is
gonna,
be
spent
for
these
things,
and
we
want
to
know
and
I
think
Charlie
heard
that
at
the
meeting
we
attended
together,
we've
heard
that
since
then
they
want
to
know
how
will
how
will
you
show
us
that
we're
solving
these
problems
with
the
money
raised
and
in
the
the
fourth
comment
is
just
this:
the
city
does
have
a
role
in
affordable
housing.
R
R
Those
seniors
and
those
on
fixed
incomes
will
be
impacted.
You
know,
is
this
fair
to
those
on
on
fixed
incomes?
We've
also
heard
questions
about.
Why
can't
the
revenue
be
supported
by
new
growth?
You
know
we
talked
about
in
the
post
card
and
on
the
website
about
Salt
Lake
City
is
doing
well.
We
are
seeing
a
lot
of
growth
in
terms
of
population
and
businesses
and
people
coming
to
the
city
at
night
for
entertainment.
So
there
have
been
questions
about.
Why
can't
we
sustained
the
sustained
the
needs
with
that
new
growth?
R
There's
also
some
concern
about
the
sales
tax
affecting
businesses.
What
will
that
impact
be
some
comments
about
housing
is
just
getting
too
expensive.
You
know,
no
one
wants
to
see
a
property
tax
increase
and
that's
in
people
will
sometimes
say
that
and
then
the
other
comment
is
about
other
ways
to
fund
this.
What
about
user
fees?
R
And
then
there
are
just
more
questions
than
anything
and
so
I
wanted
to
list
those,
because
this
may
be
a
good
topic
of
discussion
for
the
council.
So
this,
why
can't
revenue
be
supported
by
new
growth?
Why
not
increase
user
fees?
What
will
the
impact
be
on
retail
and
commercial
and
commercial
yeah
commercial
property
tax?
R
How
will
the
road
projects
break
prioritized
will?
Will
this
be
enough
funding
to
really
make
a
difference?
It's
spending
everyone,
small
some
will
say.
I
need
seem
huge.
This
doesn't
seem
like
a
you
know.
It
seems
like
a
drop
in
the
bucket
and
then
there's
just
some
still
some
confusion
about
the
two
revenue
streams
and
we're
doing
our
best
to
communicate
that
different
needs
require
different
types
of
funding,
but
there's
that
still
a
little
bit
of
a
question
mark
for
people
in
the
next
page.
Oh
I'm,
sorry,
this
is.
A
E
We've
done
a
lot
of
outreach
already
in
the
couple
of
weeks
that
we've
been
out
and
about,
and
then
we
have
upcoming
we
still
have
tonight.
We
have
we're
set
up
outside
these
very
doors,
to
provide
some
information,
hopefully
for
those
coming
to
participate
in
tonight's
council
meeting
and
to
participate
in
the
hearing.
So
we
wanted
to
provide
some
additional
information
to
make
sure
we're
building
that
awareness
tonight
and
then
also
tomorrow.
E
We
have
two
public
workshops
at
the
Unity
Center,
a
midday
and
an
evening
session
too
I
think
and
we
I
want
to
just
make
note
about.
We've
developed
the
materials
we've
developed,
the
format
of
that
workshop
to
be
responsive
to
what
we've
heard
to
date,
meaning
that
people
want
that
additional
information
they
want
to
know.
If
we
give
you
this
money,
how
will
you
spend
it,
and
so
we've
we've
tried
to
staff
it
and
build
materials
that
help
to
further
that
conversation.
E
Rather,
we
will
reiterate
some
of
the
information
that
people
have
already
seen,
but
we
want
to
further
that
conversation
with
discussion
with
staff.
Then
we
have
the
newsmaker
breakfast
plans
for
April
11th
at
the
Gardner
Institute.
Then
we
have
small
business
outreach
that
Lindsay
already
touched
on
that
we're
just
gonna
keep
reaching
out
to
those
various
business
districts.
The
online
survey
will
continue
through
the
planned
vote
and
then
community
council
meetings.
We
are
we're
just
getting
out
every
time.
E
There
is
one
where
we're
there
so
we're
continuing
that
cycle
and
we
are
I
believe
we're
on
track
to
hit
everyone
for
maybe
yes,
yeah
and
then
then
we
have
the
public
hearing
that
that
you
all
have
scheduled
on
the
night
of
the
potential
vote
and
then
ahead
of
us
more
even
more.
If
we
move
into
phase
2
for
the
bunt,
so
quite
a
bit
still
planned
and
quite
a
bit
has
happened.
L
E
Think,
well
they
do
that
as
we
talked
about
a
lot
of
quantity
or
qualitative.
But
there
is
you
know
the
quantitative
of
the
survey
that
went
out
before.
Even
we
were
on
board
to
look
at
some
of
these
things
and
then
our
survey
as
well.
So
there's
it's
a
mix
that
we're
getting
in
because
I
know
several
council
members
asked
for
that.
Quantitative
and
I
don't
want
it
to
seem
that
we've
ignored
that
request,
because
it
is
what
we
have
numbers
rolling
in
as
well
as
just
comments.
R
So
I'm
hopeful
you've
all
had
time
to
look
at
this
briefly.
So
let
me
explain
this.
This
is
a
document
that
we
use
to
collect
information
and
we
use
it
as
the
basis
for
the
information
that
goes
on
the
website
and
the
fact
sheets.
We
also
hope
that
it's
something
that
will
help
you
as
you're
out
talking
in
the
community,
so
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
you
saw
the
most
recent
version
of
this
as
we're
tweaking
our
facts
and
and
making
sure
that
it's
all
correct.
R
So
basically,
it's
organized
around
four
four
key
information
buckets
and
the
first
is
just
the
need.
You
know.
Why
are
we
even
talking
about
this
and
it's
because
Salt
Lake
City
is
growing
and
experiencing
challenges
of
that
growth?
The
second
messaging
bucket
is
about
the
four
areas
of
critical
need,
and
that's
what
we've
been
out
talking
about
with
with
the
public.
It's
we're
gonna
be
spending
a
lot
of
time
tomorrow.
R
So
we
had
a
big
planning
meeting
about
a
week
and
a
half
ago
and
sat
down
with
the
technical
experts
and
from
the
city
and
talked
about
what
is
the
existing
condition
in
each
one
of
these
areas?
What's
the
desired
condition?
What's
the
funding
gap
and
then
what
would
this
proposal?
What
would
an
increase
in
funding
accomplish
for
us,
and
so
that's
what
we've
outlined
for
for
these
four
areas?
R
R
R
R
So
we've
tried
to
explain
that
that
the
two
opportunities
before
the
council
and
the
administration
right
now
are
an
increase
in
sales
tax
and
a
potential
general
obligation
bond,
and
we
give
some
of
the
details
there
and
then
we
also
talk
about
what
we
would
fund
what
right
now.
What
the
plan
is
for
funding
through
a
sales
tax
opportunity
and
the
general
bond
obligation
is
more
is
a
eternal
obligation.
R
Bond
is
a
more
complicated
process
because
we
have
to
go
through
a
whole
nother
public
involvement
process
where
we
prioritize
those
projects,
so
that
would
follow
next
month
really
beginning
next
month
and
then
message.
Four
is
always
about
public
involvement
and
making
sure
that
people
understand
that
there
are
lots
of
ways.
It's
a
it's
a
fairly
short
period
of
engagement,
but
there
are
lots
of
ways
to
get
involved
and
so
we're
just.
We
just
want
to
make
sure
people
understand
those.
P
You,
madam
chair,
so
generally
I
I,
think
this
is
a
good
direction.
You
know
it
is
a
unique
opportunity.
I've
had
I've
had
a
couple
of
opportunities
now
to
present
with
Lyndsey
at
different
community
council
meetings
and
the
public
understands
the
public
gets
what
we're
you
know
what
there
is
a
need
and
that
we're
trying
to
do
something.
The
the
only
concern
that
I
have
and
it's
it's
not
as
much
of
a
concern.
P
As
you
know,
a
question
on
priority
is
how
we
arrived
at
these
four
items
to
go
and
present
the
public
and
I
know
that
we
did
I
know
there
was
a
poll
that
was
done.
Some
of
that
information
was
based
on
on
that
there's.
Also
information.
That's
based
on
on
general
need
so
I
understand
that
I
am
concerned,
though,
that
when
we
look
at
the
sales
tax
option,
I
mean
this
is
this
is
the
one
opportunity
that
the
city's
had
to
really
look
at
at
distributing.
P
P
P
If
we
utilize
existing
land
that
we
have
and
figure
out,
you
know
how
we
can
better
utilize
the
the
RDA
tool
that
we
have,
because
what
this
does
and
I
understand
that
you,
you
know
with
the
general
obligation
bond,
that's
going
to
be.
You
know,
arriving
at
20
million
dollars
a
year
roughly
to
go
into
infrastructure,
but
I
think
five
million
I
would
I
would
much
prefer
that
we
pull
the
housing
off
of
this
out.
Of
the
out
of
this
discussion,
have
ten
million
dollars
in
sales
tax
go
to
streets,
the
other?
P
The
other
things
I
think
makes
sense,
because
we
don't
have
other
funding
tools
available.
We
have
funding
tools
for
housing,
we're
just
not
doing
it.
So
let's
do
it.
Let's
figure
that
out-
and
you
know,
instead
of
just
doing
the
bare
minimum
of
streets
the
sooner
we
fix
those
the
sooner
that
we
we
deal
with
that
project,
then
we
can
go
back
and
if
we
want
to
put
more
money
into
housing,
if
we
want
to
put
more
money
into
parks
or
whatever
else
we
can
do
that.
P
But
if
we
don't
make
take
a
big
big
step
on
infrastructure
maintenance,
when
we
have
the
opportunity
to
do
so,
we
are
not
doing
our
jobs
and
we're
letting
the
public
down,
because
this
is
we,
we
are
no
better
than
you
know
everybody
else
who
sat
in
these
seats
for
decades.
If
we
continue
to,
you
know,
do
the
bare
minimum
necessary
to
do
this
when
we
have
an
opportunity
to
really
make
a
difference.
A
Okay,
I'm
gonna
jump
in
I
hope
this
discussion
will
continue.
Thank
you,
Charlie
for
bringing
this
up
and
you're
right
that
this
is
our
our
first
kind
of
bite
at
the
conversation
of
the
four
items
and
you're,
absolutely
right
that
they
they're
not
news
to
anybody.
They're,
not
news
to
residents
that
they're
existing
issues
and
deficits
that
we
have
not
had
another
option
to
really
address.
Until
this,
this
sales
tax
option
and
the
Geo
bond
for
different
things,
things
we
own
so
I.
A
Sorry,
thank
you.
20
million
from
the
general
obligation
and
five
for
the
maintenance
portion,
which
puts
us
five
million
over
the
twenty
million
dollar
need
annually
so
to
speak,
and
then,
when
that
general
obligation
bond,
if
it
were
to
pass,
is
exhausted,
then
we
shift
back
into
the
sales
tax.
For
and
this
can,
this
can
should
be
planned
out
for
transparency
and
accountability
sake
for
our
for
our
taxpayers,
but
I,
don't
think
it's
either/or
and
just
as
you're
saying
I
agree
that
we
have
this
chance
right
now
to
finally
address
this
need
for
streets.
A
I
think
that
even
the
advocates
who
would
love
to
reprimand
us
for
all
sorts
of
affordable
housing
deficits
over
the
years
would
agree
that
this
body
and
this
mayor
are
the
best
shot
at
affordable
housing,
long-term
funding
that
this
affordable
housing
community
who's
been
advocating
for
this
has
seen
in
decades.
So
I
do
feel
like
this
is
an
incredible
opportunity
for
us
to
secure
that
you're,
absolutely
right
that
we
have
more
assets
than
we're
acting
on,
and
we
had
that
discussion
beginning
today
with
the
surplus
land
disposition
ordinance.
A
A
Absolutely
right
that
there's
other
RDA
allocation
options
that
we
should
continue
to
invest
in,
but
I
think
as
amy
alluded
to
in
an
earlier
part
of
our
agenda,
that
this
body
is
not
going
to
last
forever
and
those
allocations
from
an
RDA
standpoint,
I
think,
are
less
secure
over
time
than
our
commitments
through
the
sales
tax
option.
They
should
all
be
used
in
tandem
and
to
what
degree
we
invest
in
the
affordable
housing
is
for
us
to
figure
out
over
time.
I
Just
for
going
forward,
I
think
that
that
your
presentation
did
a
good
job
of
pointing
out
and
the
opposite.
Are
they?
What
I
see
most
in
terms
of
opposition?
Is
his
people,
members
of
the
public,
not
understanding
why
we
don't
have
all
of
these
other
options,
funding
options
available
and
not
understanding
that
the
the
state
legislature
has
really
limited
what
the
city
can,
how
we
can
raise
funds
and
then
how
we
can
use
those
funds.
I
But
this
is
an
issue
that
was
really
important
to
so
many
people
during
this
last
election
cycle
and
I
think
that
they
are
that
the
public
is
willing
to
make
this
investment
and
I
think
that
that
that's
worthwhile
and
that
we
shouldn't
I
think
we
have
to
capture
that.
While
we
can,
as
Erin
said
that
I
don't
know.
J
J
This
I
think
this
is
our
one
shot
at
actually
bringing
on
salt
like
Salt,
Lake,
City,
specific
transit
options,
whether
that's
increased
service
or
frequency
or
east-west
connections.
That
really
matter
to
to
this
body
and
I.
Think
the
community
at
large
and
so
I
feel
like
we
must
do
something
with
the
transit
option
on
the
table
here.
A
G
G
So,
yes-
and
we
do
need
to
have
that
pretty
quickly
and
I-
have
a
question
about
I
was
eight
million
enough
to
get
the
master
transit
plan
implemented
the
way
we
need
it
done,
as
well
as
just
specific
outcomes
for
these
things,
I
think
there's
ways
we
can
track:
Street
maintenance,
most
visually
on
a
map
for
people,
I,
think
there's
ways
we
can
look
at
better
transit
service.
It's
pretty
easy
to
quantify.
Have
we
done
this
or
not
15-minute
intervals
on
these
major
routes
hours,
those
kind
of
things?
G
D
E
Goes
into
reserves.
It
actually
is
this
thing
where,
when
our
revenues
increase
that
10%
minimum
required
by
state
law
increases
so
Mary
Beth
helpfully
reminded
us
that
we
can't
forget
that,
as
we
don't
really
have,
you
know
30
million
to
spend.
We
have
30
million
minus
3,
because
it's
10%
of
that
has
to
come
immediately.
G
G
G
And
so
I
think
we
also
need
to
be
clear
with
people
about
how
we're
gonna
use
these
funds,
because
we've
committed
to
50
new
police
officers.
If
this
is
gonna
pay
for
an
existing
commitment,
we've
made
already.
We
need
to
draw
the
line
in
the
sand
and
say:
where
does
that
end
in
our
current
budget,
because
we
could
take
this
money
and
use
it
for
current
needs
that
are
unfunded
and
I've
been
saying
publicly
look,
I,
don't
think
it
should
go
to
our
current
budget
unfunded
needs.
This
should
go
to
new
things.
G
F
F
F
Think
we
have
to
start
looking
and
making
those
sort
of
really
maybe
hard
decisions
of
prioritizing
the
priorities
and
and
I
think
again
we're
sort
of
our
first
chance
to
all
sit
down
and
look
at
this
and
grapple
with
it.
But
that's
where
I'm
at
right
now,
if
that
five
million
dollars
doesn't
seem
like
a
lot
of
money
for
Street
mean
and
three
and
and
but
I
don't
know,
that's
that's
just
my
sort
of
general
thought
and
again
thank
you
and
the.
A
I
think
at
our
next
discussion
we
would
love
to
hear
from
Lisa,
Schaeffer
or
whomever
wants
to
talk
to
us
about.
If
that's
enough,
it
does
that
meet
the
maintenance
need
per
year
and
to
Amy's
question
is
what
is
that
actual
need?
I
found
it
really
interesting
to
that
the
only
section
in
here
back
to
affordable
housing.
That
said,
the
need
is
this,
but
they're
only
requesting
half
of
it
was
affordable,
housing
and
all
of
the
others
was
like.
Here's.
The
funding
gap
filled
funding
gap
filled.
A
A
P
What
I'm
concerned
about
is
that
elected
officials
always
use
infrastructure
as
justification
to
increase
taxes,
and
it
might
go
there
first
for
a
little
bit
and
then
it
immediately
is
siphoned
off
somewhere
else.
We
saw
that
with
the
last
time
the
property
taxes
were
increased
four
years
ago.
I
think
that
that
is,
there
is
some
real
concern
that
I
have
heard
that
that
could
happen
again
and
I.
P
It's
an
assumption,
and
again
this
is
a
rare
opportunity
that
we
have
that
we
can't
we
don't
have
at
other
funding
sources
for
Public
Safety.
We
just
don't,
we
I
mean
Aaron,
you
and
I
have
gone
through.
You
know,
budget
after
budget,
you
know
trying
to
figure
out
how
we
can
pull
more
money
and
for
public
safety.
It's
not
their
infrastructure.
It's
not
there
either
transit,
it's
not
there.
P
Housing
is
going
to
be
the
most
difficult
thing
to
track
in
how
the
money
is
being
spent.
We
can
put
it
into
a
pot,
we
can
say
this
is
what
we're
going
to
do
with
it,
but
it's
gonna.
It's
gonna,
be
very,
very
hard.
There's
not
a
lot
of
predictability
on
how
that
will
be
spent,
because
it
can
go
for
one
project.
It
could
go
for
multiple,
we
just
don't
know
and
so
I
think.
P
If
we're
looking
for
direct
accountability
to
taxpayers
and
on
what
we're
going
to
do,
the
easiest
thing
would
be
to
track
infrastructure
funding,
because
you
know
what
you're
doing
with
it
public
safety.
You
know
how
many
officers
you're
gonna
be
hiring
transit.
You
know
what
north-south
or
east-west
routes
are
not
in
existence.
You
can
track
that
housing.
P
It's
it's
muddier
and
I
do
I
agree.
You
know,
Chris
I,
do
think
that
the
public's
you
know
willing
to
move
forward
on
this.
So,
let's
exhaust
every
other
option
that
we
have
and
utilize.
You
know
the
resources
that
we
have
for
the
ones
that
we
can't
that
there
are
no
other
resources
for
councilmember.
P
G
We
haven't
had
a
discussion
about
what
this
would
do,
because
most
of
our
resources
have
been
said.
We're
gonna
allocate
that
towards
the
lowest
income
levels,
but
that
doesn't
necessarily
touch
anybody
in
the
middle
and
when
we
talk
about
affordable
housing
in
the
public,
there's
not
a
clarification
about
what
that
means.
Does
that
mean
my
neighbor
next
door?
Who
has
a
job,
and
we.
G
A
It
sounds
like
we
need
at
our
next
discussion
at
a
work
session
to
get
much
more
clarity
from
housing,
Neighborhood
Development
and
whatever
team
around
that
wants
to
bring
that
clarity
to
us.
Also,
while
I
do
think
as
as
Charlie's
talked
about
that,
there
are
a
bunch
of
tools
that
we
can
leverage
toward
more
affordable
housing,
a
lot
of
them
even
like
the
surplus
land
discussion
that
we
just
had
earlier
are
really
administrative.
When
it
boils
down
to
it,
we
don't
get
to
get
rid
of
that
land.
A
We
don't
execute
those
contracts,
that's
not
the
council
and
that
21
million
dollars
that
this
body
put
together
and
put
specifically
toward
that
forty
percent
in
below
it
moved
fast.
I
mean
we
spent
we're
spending
it
it's
gone.
That
is,
the
money,
is
the
tool
to
make
things
happen
and
we
can
put
administrative
tools
in
place
and
with
the
RDA
as
the
RDA
we
can
maybe
get
to
three
million
dollars
a
year
going
toward
this
I.
Don't
think
it's
enough
I!
A
Don't
think
that
money
is
enough
and
I
don't
feel
as
confident
for
any
future
administration
even
to
necessarily
execute
on
all
of
the
administrative
improvements
we're
talking
about
making
money
moves,
so
we
can
make
those
administrative
improvements.
We
can
do
those
ordinance
changes,
but
we're
not
going
to
see
doors
until
we
attach
money
to
it
and
I.
Don't
think
our
RDA
money
is
enough.
P
Right
now,
but
comment
on
that.
I
do
think
that
you
know
that
there
is
something
that
you
did
leave
out
and
it
is
it
is,
you
know,
using
our
budgetary
discretion,
to
tie
the
administration
to
legislative
intent
and
there
are
things
that
I
think
we
can
do
in
the
coming
budget,
where,
if
we,
if
it
is
the
council's
intent,
if
it
is
our
legislative
intent
that
we
look
at
utilizing
surplus
property,
maybe
there's
something
that
we
can
do
budgetarily.
That
ties
it
to
it.
Perhaps.
A
A
Okay,
so
we
need
to
wrap
up,
but
can
I
ask
for
a
straw
poll
right
now,
as
we
have
people
in
the
hallway.
Looking
at
these
four
issues,
right
now
with
people
from
these
departments,
answering
questions
right
now,
I'd
like
to
get
us
some
general
consensus
that
at
this
point
we're
moving
ahead
with
these
discussions
and
the
priorities
and
the
way
that
they
filter
out
based
on
the
funding
gaps.
We
are
about
to
have
those
discussions
in
our
upcoming
meetings.
Are
we
okay
with
the
way
it's
going
right
now?
Can
I.
I
A
E
A
A
E
My
name
is
Nancy
Rivera
I
am
I've,
been
a
resident
of
Salt
Lake
for
18
years,
I
graduated
with
an
MFA
in
photography
in
2016
from
the
University
of
Utah
and
I'm.
Currently,
an
artist
in
residence
at
you,
MOCA
and
we'll
have
a
solo
show
there
in
the
fall
I'm.
Also
a
development
coordinator
at
Utah,
Film
Center
and
a
board
member
of
artists
in
Mexico.
J
E
I'm,
a
contemporary
artist
I
make
work
about
the
idea
that
comes
with
it
more
than
what
the
work
may
look
like.
It's
not
so
much
about
the
beauty
of
the
work,
but
more
about
what
it
makes
you
what's
the
thought
that
it
provokes
in
a
viewer,
so
I
am
interested
in
bringing
that
side
of
my
knowledge
and
skills
into
the
board
and
also
encouraging
other
contemporary
artists
that
I
know
in
the
community.
That
would
be
good
in
this
public
art
program.
Thank.
A
Thank
you
any
other
council
comments.
Thank
you
for
your
willingness
to
serve
on
this
board
MS
Rivera,
and
we
will
go
through
the
advice
and
consent
process.
During
our
formal
meeting
you
don't
have
to
stick
around.
You
can
tune
in
to
channel
17
and
toast
yourself
when
we
get
to
the
consent
portion
of
our
agenda,
but
we
thank
you
for
your
willingness
to
serve
and
bring
your
talent
to
our
city
in
the
new
way.
Anyway.
A
A
A
C
Be
happy
to
thank
you,
so
my
name
is
Matt
Sybil
and
I'm.
The
government
relations
director
with
Utah
Transit,
Authority
I,
know
most
of
you.
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
engage
with
a
couple
of
new
council
members,
so
I
want
to
be
able
to
do
that
at
the
right
point.
I've
been
involved
with
transportation
in
my
entire
career
I've
been
with
Utah
Transit
Authority
for
about
10
years,
I
started
out
I'm
an
engineer
civil
engineer
by
training.
C
I
started
out
my
career
UTA,
developing
and
building
the
airport
tracks
line
and
I
spend
a
lot
of
time
in
this
room.
Negotiating
with
the
City
Council
back
in
the
day
and
a
great
product
arose
from
those
negotiations.
I've
run
our
planning
department
and
now
I'm
in
our
government
relations
office
and
I,
like
I,
said
I'm
a
I'm,
a
passionate
person
when
it
comes
to
to
transit,
transportation,
I'm,
a
user
of
transit
and
biking
and
I'll.
Maybe
just
leave
it
at
that
and
I'm
sure.
A
J
Sorry
I
just
had
a
last
minute
thought
you
brought
up
the
fact
that
we
always
see
one
is
bike.
I
really
appreciate
that
you
practice
what
you
preach,
and
so
thank
you
for
that
and
I
think
that
you
will
serve
well
in
this
capacity
because
obviously
you're
dedicated
to
Salt
Lake,
but
you
are
your
personality,
is
really
unique
and
that
I
think
you,
you
diffuse
people
really
easily.
J
C
I
A
H
F
J
F
Of
the
work
that
you
do
with
our
arts
community
throughout
the
city
and
I,
think
one
of
the
things
that
you
know
I
know
Darren
is
spike
so
spica
mouths
that
you
guys
do,
though,
is
to
make
sure
to
really
try
to
reach
the
various
facets
of
our
different
communities
and
pick
something
for
everyone
and
not
have
one
genre,
but
yeah.
So
I
appreciate
that,
because
I
know
how
much
diversity
means
to
you
guys
as
you're
looking
at
the
city
and
what
you're,
what
you're
doing
within
our
city.
So
thank.
J
Board,
can
you
talk
to
me
and
with
this
body
about
some
of
the
concerns
that
you
have
as
a
small
business
owner
and
somebody
that
has
an
interest
in
seeing
this
industry
thrive,
especially
the
arts
and
performance
industry?
What
are
some
of
the
barriers
or
hurdles
that
you
see
and
what
role
might
you
be
able
to
play
on
the
business
advisory
board
to
help
illuminate
that
to
the
city
itself,.
H
I've
been
an
entrepreneur
small
business
owner
since
since
I
moved
here
and
have
been
involved
in
entertainment
and
music,
since
the
Olympics
really
is
full
fledge
time
opening
the
stateroom
in
2009
was
was
eye-opening.
Dealing
with
you,
know,
city
planning
and
zoning,
and
then
just
underlying
laws
and
disadvantages
that
are
sometimes
afforded
to
businesses
that
have
alcohol
licensing.
H
H
For
for
the
council,
in
the
city
and
just
people
in
general-
and
you
know
we're
boots
on
the
ground
all
the
time
so
for
us
we
do
a
lot
of
different
types
of
events
at
the
state
room,
and
so
you
know
every
busy
night.
We
have
300
different
people
that
walk
through
that
door,
and
so
we
hear
their
concerns
as
well.
That
I
think
will
be
helpful
to
voice
to
the
advisory
board
and
then
obviously
relay
back
to
you.
P
H
Keep
coming
because
you
know
they
wouldn't
be
there
without
the
audience.
That's
corny,
but
it's
true,
so
yeah
I
mean
it's
I,
think
it's
a
really
I
think
it's
a
unique
opportunity
and
I
think
I
can
bring
a
different
perspective
because
I
think
a
lot
of
businesses
are
more
direct
service,
oriented
we're
like
almost
a
backwards
kind
of
business.
You
know
where
we're
selling
it
before
it
happens,
so
it's
like
you
know,
buying
your
meal
and
then
a
month
later,
getting
it
and
so
there's
a
there's.
A
couple
different
facets:
whether
it's
security
or
traffic.
H
H
A
L
My
name's
Kestrel
lidtke
I
own,
the
ten
angel
down
here
near
Pioneer,
Park
we've
been
there
11
years.
I
am
interested
in
being
on
this
board.
I
I
did
four
years
on
the
rack,
the
Redevelopment
Agency
committee,
and
it
was
enlightening
and
interesting,
but
maybe
not
a
really
good
use
of
my
skills
and
expertise
and
I
feel
like
this
committee
would
be
a
little
better
fit
for
me.
I
I
liked
the
question
question
that
you
asked
him.
What
do
you
think
you
could
bring
to
this
board?
L
I
would
hope
that
I
could
say
that
I
have
helped
to
increase
the
profile
of
the
area
that
my
business
is
in
sometimes
I
feel
that
way
sometimes
I,
don't
it
is
an
odd
little
neighborhood,
but
in
as
much
as
I,
maybe
have
been
an
anchor
business.
I
have
really
been
through
the
wringer
in
that
regard
and
I
think
I
have
come
out
with
some
knowledge
that
I
would
hope
to
share.
J
L
Now
I
feel
really
positive
about
it.
When
operation
Rio
Grande
first
started,
it
was
probably
our
roughest
few
months
there
were
about
six
months
there,
where
we
really
nearly
went
under
and
I
think
that
was
a
lot
because
of
the
area
being
in
the
news.
So
much
negatively
more
than
anything
else,
but
things
seem
to
have
calmed
down
and
it
just
seems
to
have
come
back
and
maybe
even
stronger
mm-hmm
councilmember.
A
F
A
F
But
again,
going
to
something
I
said
to
Darrin:
I
also
know
how
heavily
involved
you
are
in
both
not
just
the
Pioneer
Park
area
in
trying
to
uplift
it,
but
throughout
with
the
Utah
Arts
Festival,
and
how
important
kind
of
being
a
part
of
the
community
and
the
fabric
of
the
community
and
the
fact
that
you
know,
even
during
those
really
rough
times,
you
guys
haven't
moved
out
of
that
area.
Yeah
I
think
it.
F
L
A
Anything
else
councilmembers,
kestrel
you're,
awesome
and
you
would
be
great
on
any
of
our
boards,
but
I
think
you're,
absolutely
right
that
you
have
a
ton
of
relevant
experience
to
bring
to
this
one
in
particular,
and
hopefully
after
you
do
for
years.
Is
that?
But
your
term
is
here,
I
think
so.
Yeah,
like
it's
a
prison
term.
I
did
four
years
on
their
racket.
P
A
B
It's
a
tough
act
to
follow
here,
but
the
last
one
nice
to
meet
all
of
you.
My
name
is
Kim
Mane's
I'm
a
vice
president.
At
the
Nats
smart
home
I
run
their
technology
organization,
I
recently
moved
to
Salt
Lake
City
from
Seattle
in
July
and
I'm,
an
active
supporter
member
of
the
HRC
quality
Utah,
as
well
as
women
in
technology,
so
really
working
to
get
a
better
pipeline
of
women
and
technology
in
leadership
positions,
fabulous.
B
B
I
B
I
think
I
would
highlight
three
areas
that
are
probably
very
personal
to
me.
Obviously
my
wife
and
I'm
moving
to
this
community,
making
sure
that
we're
well
represented
I,
also
my
wife,
being
an
immigrant
making
sure
that
you
know
everyone
has
afforded
equal
opportunities
is
very
near
and
dear
to
my
heart
and
third,
just
the
Women
in
Technology
I,
think
that
starts
very
young,
so
creating
a
good
connection,
obviously
in
my
profession,
struggling
to
get
women
in
leadership
positions.
But
it
starts
a
lot
earlier
than
that
so
making
good
connections
I.
B
Think
making
sure
that
that
stem
is
open
to
young
girls
at
a
very
young
age,
so
actively
involved
in
girls
who
code
starting
in
grade
school
middle
school.
Getting
them
involved
to
know
that
there
is
a
career
it
isn't
does.
It
doesn't
just
have
to
be
the
scary
thing
that
only
boys
do
and
so
really
like
working
a
good
pipeline
from
the
educational
systems
early
on
to
making.
I
B
A
H
A
E
E
So
if
we
wanted
to
check
and
see
if
council
members
had
any
preferences,
one
to
confirm
that
you
did
not
want
to
meet
on
July
3rd,
which
is
the
date
before
it
should
be
on
your
electronic
packet,
sorry,
the
announcements
I
mean
if
we
want
to
meet
on
July
3rd.
It's
totally
up
to
you
guys,
thinking
that
you
could
either
swap
you
could
swap
one
of
the
tentative
dates
for
one
of
the
other
dates.
E
J
I
E
Okay
and
the
chair
before
she
stepped
out
said
that
she
would
rather
meet
on
the
31st
inside
of
the
17th,
also
so,
okay,
so
maybe
we'll
repost
this
as
an
announcement,
maybe
in
a
month.
Well,
maybe
we
knew
a
little
bit
more
about
Stadler
and
just
kind
of
confirm
with
you
guys,
okay
and
then
the
legislative
subcommittee,
so
by
right
or
by
policy.
The
council
chair
and
the
RDA
board
chair
are
members
of
the
legislative
policy
committee
in
some
years.