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Salt Lake City Planning Commission Meeting - 11/13/2019
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I
I
If
they
choose
to
do
that,
the
entrance
to
the
ad
you
will
be
oriented
towards
Williams
Avenue,
as
well
as
the
rear
facade
of
the
principal
dwelling,
the
closest
house,
to
the
proposed
eighty
years,
approximately
25
feet
away
from
the
ad
you
to
review
it
short
of
the
development
regulations
for
a
to
use
and
what
is
allowed
versus
what
is
being
proposed.
You
can
refer
to
attachment
a
of
the
staff
report.
I
I
You
can
kind
of
see
it's
a
little
bit
hard,
but
on
the
photo
on
the
left,
you
can
see
a
six-foot
tall,
cedar
fence
on
the
interior
side,
yards
of
the
property,
there's
approximately
about
a
four-foot
tall,
chain-link
fence
to
comply
with
the
conditions
or
to
comply
with
conditioner.you
standards
that
relate
to
the
character
of
the
site
and
compatibility
of
adjacent
uses.
Staff
is
recommending
that
a
six
foot
tall
privacy
fence
be
installed
along
those
interior
side
yards.
I
A
E
E
Long-Term
rental
property
is
what
the
homeowner
has
told
us,
but
other
than
that,
it's
pretty
yeah,
it's
pretty
straightforward.
He
doesn't
have
any
other
additional
one.
You
ants
on
his
property
that
would
require
the
fire
department
access
150
feet
so
yeah,
it's
it's
pretty
basic,
straightforward
ad.
You
and.
E
H
E
So
right
now,
what
we
have
designed
is
the
unit's
foundation
would
be
on
ten
helical
screw
piles.
So
five
on
each
side,
they
will
have
the
it's
kind
of
hard
to
explain.
There's
like
an
insertion
into
the
ground
where
the
helical
screw
piles
will
be
inserted.
Once
the
unit
is
dropped
inside
I
know
we
have
had
the
DRT
they
mentioned
to
us
about
the
concrete
foundation.
A
E
K
There
are
just
some
things
that
I
wondered
about
that:
I
haven't
any
any
answers
to
so
I,
don't
know
if
these
will
be
considered
rhetorical
questions
or
if
somebody
can
answer
them,
I
wondered
if
the
city
considers
the
overall
size
of
the
lot
when
considering
putting
one
of
these
modal
units
in
this
is
a
really
small
street.
All
of
the
houses
are
bungalows.
The
yards
are
very
small.
K
I
wondered
also
why
the
owner
would
spend
all
of
the
money
to
prep
the
space
as
they've
done
for
the
past
month,
if
this
wasn't
at
least
implicitly
approved
at
some
point,
I
also
wonder
if
anyone
is
considered
the
possibility
that
it
might
be
make
it
difficult
for
me
to
sell
my
own
house
in
the
future
if
I'm
living
next
to
what
is
now
a
multi-unit
space.
This
used
to
be
a
house
of
one
family
lived
in.
K
They
have
two
apartments
who
are
taking
up
the
driveway,
so
I,
don't
know
how
that
third
space
would
be
accessed
unless
there
was
a
lot
of
choreography
going
on
to
get
all
of
the
cars
parked
on
the
lot,
and
the
only
other
question
I
really
had
was
about
I
had
heard
that
the
owner
had
to
be
live
on
the
lot
for
this
to
occur,
and
that
was
addressed
so
and
also
just
generally
about
light
pollution.
General
pollution
in
what
was
normally
a
dark
sort
of
suburban
space.
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E
Across
the
street,
at
228,
East
Williams
Avenue
I
also
had
the
same
concerns
that
Eric
has
where
the
parking
in
the
area
is
already
overwhelmed.
There's
another
house
on
the
other
side
of
him
where
there's
a
rental
and
there's
like
five
college
students
in
there
and
you
know
others.
It's
frequently
I
come
home.
A
E
I
Excuse
me
so,
in
order
to
get
the
building
permit
approved,
he
has
to
meet
the
standards
for
an
a
to
you,
which
one
of
those
standards
is
owner
occupancy.
So
if
he
can't
show
that
he's
an
owner
occupant
of
the
property,
then
that
building
permit
cannot
be
approved,
so
the
unit
would
not
be
able
to
be
constructed
until
owner
occupancy
takes
place.
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A
A
It's
a
conditional
use,
though
right
yes,
and
then
a
conditioned
use
can
be
revoked
if
it's
not
continued
to
meet
the
standards
of
what
a
conditional
use
was
permitted
under
which
in
this
case
is
owner
occupied,
yes,
that's
great,
and
if
the
conditional
use
is
revoked,
does
that
mean
they
have
to
tear
down
and
remove
the
unit?
The.
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D
I
The
ordinance
doesn't
restrict
the
lot
size,
but
it
does
have
standards
as
far
as
setbacks
and
maximum
size
for
a
detached
structure.
So
the
detached
structure
can
be
a
maximum
of
six
hundred
and
fifty
square
feet
or
50%
of
the
footprint
of
the
principal
structure.
Whichever
is
less
so.
It's
restricted
that
way.
H
Yes,
I
just
asked
if
staff
could
explain
to
the
neighbors,
so
in
general,
I'm,
very
supportive
I'd
use
as
basic
right
within
the
city,
but
I
would
wonder
there
are
seem.
There
seems
to
be
some
specific
concerns
with
that
property,
though
the
neighbors
have.
What
is
there?
What
do
they
do
if
those
continue
to
be
problems
after
this
is
built?
Can
you
just
explain
for
their
sake,
what
the
process
is
as.
I
In
that
case,
the
best
thing
thing
that
they
could
do
would
be
to
contact
civil
enforcement.
Civil
enforcement
can
send
an
inspector
out
there
to
make
sure
that
the
rules
that
are
in
place
are
being
adhered
to
by
the
properties,
not
just
this
property,
but
any
property
within
the
city
they'll
go
out
and
make
sure
that
they're
adhering
to
what
those
rules
and
standards
are
one.
F
I
I
So
if
there
is
any
issues
with
lights
bleeding
over
into
other
properties,
they
can't
investigate
that
to
see
and
light
glares
kind
of
it's
a
little
hard
to
to
verify.
But
they'll
have
multiple
inspectors
go
out
there
and
if
they
all
agree
that
it's
like
layer,
then
they'll
pursue
that
violence
or
violation.
I
F
E
H
I'll
make
a
motion
before
I.
Do
I
I,
think
80s
are
really
important.
Part
of
addressing
density
in
the
city
I
do
think
that
there
are
certain
laws
and
restrictions
in
there
and
I
think
it's
important
that
those
are
adhered
to
just
because
I
think
it
puts
the
city
I
think
it
puts
the
whole
Adu
ordinance
in
jeopardy
if
those
things
are
not
adhere.
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L
Thank
you
very
much.
As
you
stated,
this
is
a
zoning
map
amendment
for
480,
East,
sixth
Avenue.
The
property
is
located
in
the
avenues
of
the
intersection
of
6th
Avenue
and
G
Street,
and
it's
on
the
southwest
corner
of
the
property
and
their
proposal
is
to
rezone
the
property
from
SR
1a
I'm,
not
with
the
intent
of
this,
is
to
make
the
existing
commercial
use
on
the
site
conforming
and
is
also
anticipated
to
allow
for
the
expansion
of
a
commercial
use
on
the
site.
L
To
put
it
in
broader
context,
this
existing
zoning
for
the
property,
as
shown
here,
is
SR
1a
and
the
surrounding
properties
are
also
zoned
to
us.
Our
1a.
There
is
a
mix
in
housing
types
on
these
properties.
There
are
a
mix
of
single-family
homes
as
well
as
some
multifamily
residences,
and
you
can
also
see
that
it's
located
about
a
block
from
Smith's
in
that
Seabee
area,
that's
located
to
the
to
the
west
of
the
property
and
the
surrounded
before
the
surrounding
housing
is
a
mix
of
different
types.
L
Here
are
a
couple
photographs
of
the
property
the
first
is
taken
facing
to
the
west
and
it
shows
the
cottage
that
is
to
be
rehabilitated
to
a
commercial
space.
This
was
reviewed
by
the
Historic
Landmarks
Commission
last
week
and
then
the
right
is
facing
south
and
it
shows
to
the
cottage
to
the
left
by
the
sign
and
then
the
existing
commercial
space
that's
currently
operating
as
a
salon.
L
As
far
as
any
potential
issues
with
the
project,
one
thing
that
staff
looked
at
was
the
compatibility
with
the
existing
planning
documents
and
there
are
several
aspects
of
the
neighborhood's
preservation
and
economy
sections
in
plan.
Salt
Lake
that
it's
consistent
with
it
will
preserve
and
enhance
the
neighborhood
retain
structures
of
historic
value.
The
cottage
is
noted
in
the
city's
surveys
to
be
one
of
the
oldest
properties
in
the
avenues
and
then,
as
far
as
the
economy
section,
it
will
support
the
growth
of
small
businesses.
L
Another
is
the
rezoning
to
a
commercial
use
on
the
site
through
public
comments.
We
heard
some
concerns
about
the
rezone
from
a
residential
to
a
commercial
use.
I
wanted
to
mention
that
it
has
not
been
occupied.
As
a
residential
use
for
quite
some
time
and
the
property
was
required
to
go
through
the
housing,
the
housing
loss
mitigation
process,
there
have
also
been
some
concerns
raised
with
parking,
but
the
size
of
the
proposed
expansion.
The
parking
can
be
accommodated
with
the
available
on
street
parking.
As
far
as
the
existing
zoning
limitations.
L
Some
of
the
reasons
the
applicant
is
proposing.
The
rezoning
is
because
of
the
existing
commercial
use
on
the
site
is
non-conforming.
Limited
expansion
of
that
use
is
permitted
with
the
current
zoning
and
then
the
rezone
would
make
the
existing
use
of
the
site
conforming
and
also
allow
for
expansion
of
that
use
into
the
cottage
area.
L
In
this
def
report
mentioned
that
it
was
subject
to
some
other
planning
processes.
There
was
a
lot
line
adjustment
that
was
completed
earlier,
this
fall
and
then
in
the
image
below
on
the
slide,
you
can
see
the
the
cottage
in
an
earlier
Assessor
photo
from
the
1930s
and
then
the
proposed
additions
and
alterations
to
the
cottage
that
the
Historic
Landmark
Commission
reviewed
last
week
so
based
on
the
information
in
the
staff
report,
planning
staff
recommends
that
the
Planning
Commission
forward
a
recommendation
of
approval
to
the
City
Council
for
the
proposed
zoning
map
amendment.
L
So
the
two
buildings
are
physically
attached
to
each
other,
and
so
the
480
east,
6th,
Avenue
part
of
the
property
has
that
existing
salon
and
then
the
cottage
on
the
property
has
been
vacant.
My
understanding
is
for
quite
some
time.
It
hasn't
been
occupied.
Recently,
it's
into
down
to
the
studs
on
the
inside
kind
of
it's
been
torn
down
to
the
studs
on
the
inside
of
the
property.
A
Just
looking
through
the
table
produces
there's,
it
seems
like
the
small
neighborhood
business
has
a
number
of
like
mixed-use
and
kind
of
multi-family
dwelling
stuff
is
permitted.
That
was
not
really
an
SR
one,
but
I
know
the
avenues
as
a
big
mix
of
it's
a
very
eclectic
sort
of
place.
Anyways
do
you've
any
thoughts
or
copies
of
concern
or
something
when
your
consideration
your
recommendations
at
all.
As.
L
So
it
did
go
through
the
Historic
Landmarks
Commission
review,
so
they
are
playing
it
that
they
are
anticipating
to
restore
and
rehab
the
existing
cottage.
That's
on
site
a
few
years
ago.
They
did
go
through
a
process
to
try
to
change
the
contributing
status
of
their
structure
and
that
was
not
approved,
so
I
anticipate
that
it
would
involve
a
rehabilitation
and
additions
to
the
cottage.
That's
on
the
site
and
the
applicant
can
talk
more
about
this,
but
my
understanding
is
that
it
would
likely
be
an
expansion
of
the
retail
use.
That's
on
the
site.
F
I,
don't
know
these
these
these
lots,
so
we
didn't
lose
the
actual
historic
structures
and
the
avenues
and
sometimes
like
a
mix.
Business
and
residential
use.
I,
don't
know
if
this
one
was
identified,
but
certainly
as
part
of
that
discussion
as
part
of
actually
writing
the
snz
small
neighborhood
business
district.
The
intent
was
to
be
very
strategic
when
rezoning
these
parcels
that
were
business,
uses
or
half
business,
half
residential
in
the
avenues,
Brandon.
L
F
J
So
I'm
Rodrigo
smile
with
Smith
hired
architects
and
said
that
a
great
job
presenting
so
I
will
be
shorter
than
10
minutes
there.
You
go
so
okay,
so
Sarah
already
presented.
Basically
so
I'll
go
through
really
quickly
and
just
add
a
couple
things,
but
there's
not
much
to
be
said.
So
we
went
through
historical
last
week
we
got
the
okay
from
historical.
The
cottage
is
being
preserved
as
much
as
possible,
since
it's
one
of
the
oldest
houses
in
the
Avenues,
so
we're
doing
a
big
effort
into
preserving
the
historical.
J
There
will
be
a
basement
digged
into
the
house,
but
the
house
is
in
really
bad
shape
right
now,
structurally
wise,
so
there,
but
that
doesn't
have
any
I'm.
Sorry
I
talk
too
much,
but
so
this
is
just
to
understand.
What's
going
on
there
right
now,
zoning
wise!
This
is
one
of
the
few
properties,
as
Sarah
mentioned.
J
This
is
a
couple
pictures
just
to
understand
the
outside
and
the
relation
of
the
two
buildings.
They
are
very
close
to
each
other
and
there
is
a
small
gap
of
two
feet
more
or
less
in
between
the
buildings,
but
they
are
wall-to-wall
residential
and
commercial,
and
there
was
an
addition
in
early
nineteen
start
here,
which
is
part
the
commercial
uses
as
residential.
It
was
part
of
Bill
at
the
S
commercial.
J
Sorry,
so
that's
being
used
as
storage
for
the
commercial,
so
the
commercial
right
now
they
need
a
little
more
space
and
that's
where
the
owner
came
with
the
idea
of
asking
to
be
and
looking
into
the
small
neighborhood
business.
This
was
one
of
the
properties
that
it
was
up
to
the
owner
to
the
site
and
choose
to
be
all
one
thing.
J
So
this
is
just
a
couple
pictures
to
show
the
site
right
now
and
then
this
is
the
same
as
that
other
drawing
just
to
show
what
is
what
there
and
is
the
existing
site
plan
so
shows
the
proportion.
Commercial
is
a
lot
more
than
residential.
The
residential
part
of
the
project
is
like
five
hundred
square
feet.
Barely.
J
J
This
is
related
to
parking,
because
I
know
that
parking
I
live
in
the
avenues
and
I
know
that
parking
is
a
big
thing
around
the
area.
Also,
so
I
did
this
little
study
by
myself
just
to
understand
a
little
about
the
parking
in
the
area.
So
right
now
the
Green
Building
is
all
the
commercial
being
used
and
there's
an
existing
parking
there
for
this
commercial
and
then
the
blue
one
is
what
technically
could
be
residential.
J
So
this
is
what's
known
as
residential,
and
this
is
the
additional
commercial
that
we
could
build
and
either
way
we
could
still
have
the
residential
and
commercial.
So
the
way
that
the
project
is
designed
right
now,
we
could
still
build
and
have
a
little
the
red
area
as
commercial,
and
this
is
as
residential
in
the
same
site.
J
So
if
we
do
residential
and
commercial,
so
if
we
don't
go
ahead
and
change
everything
to
to
commercial,
my
estimate
more
or
less
three
vehicles
there,
because
since
it
will
be
digging
a
basement
in
this,
this
would
be
a
family
house.
So
there's
be
two
cars
that
would
be
parking
on
the
street,
plus
a
card
coming
and
going
from
the
residential
from
the
commercial,
so
we're
adding
more
or
less
three
cars.
If
we
do
commercial,
the
good
thing
about
parking
is
that
it's
only
there
in
the
day
and
they're
shot
short-term
parking.
J
So
we
still
have
all
those
available
spots
in
the
street
for
people
when
they
are
trying
to
park
around
the
area.
But
we
do
have
the
driveway
here
and
there's
still
two
spots
here
on
the
we
in
front
this
property.
So
I
just
thought
I
would
mention
that
parking.
We
have
been
taken
into
consideration
parking
because
I
know
it's
a
big
thing
in
the
avenues,
and
this
is
how
I
conclude
my
presentation.
Thank.
J
G
N
Have
two
minutes:
I'm
sorry,
my
husband
and
I
owned
the
house
at
522:
East
6th
Avenue.
We
don't
live
in
it,
but
we
own
it
and
I,
just
not
necessarily
opposed
to
what
they
want
to
do.
I
just
AM
concerned
about
the
parking,
because
our
house
is
so
there's
the
subject
property
and
then
you
cross
the
G
Street
one
two
three
and
we're
the
fourth
lot.
But
the
third
lot
has
no
off
street
parking.
N
Our
spot
or
house
has
no
off
street
parking,
and
behind
my
neighbor
and
myself
there
are
two
landlocked
properties
that
have
no
off
street
parking,
so
four
houses
right
there
just
three
spaces
away
from
this
one,
and
so
there
you
go
so
I
know.
Somebody
told
me
that
the
ordinance
considers
there's
enough
parking
and
I
thought
well.
It
might,
but
the
reality
can
sometimes
be
different.
So
that's
what
I
wanted
to
mention
and
then
also
I
happen
to
be
out
last
night
and
I
noticed
there's
a
lot
of
light
that
emanates
from
the
building.
N
That's
there
now
I
mean
the
building,
looks
nice
and
all,
and
in
the
summertime
you
would
probably
never
notice,
but
when
it
gets
dark
early
there's
a
lot
of
light.
I
was
thinking
about
the
people
on
the
other
side
how
they
feel
about
that
I
mean
it
didn't
personally
bother
us,
but
and
then,
if
there's
more
activity
might
light
coming
from
that,
maybe
not
if
the
little
cottages
kept
the
way
it
is,
but
anyway
I
brought
up
my
mind
to
say
about
the
light,
possibly
and
just
about
the
parking.
That's
all
thank.
G
M
My
name
is
Cindy
Cromer
and
I
want
to
start
with
a
kind
of
a
reality
check,
which
is
generally
supportive
of
the
staff
recommendation.
There
are
very
few
property
owners
who
lease
small-scale,
commercial
and
small
scale
residential.
It's
about.
5%
of
my
rental
units
are
commercial,
I'm
predominantly
residential.
This
neighborhood
does
not
have
excessive
commercial
uses
like
the
bryant
neighborhood
to
the
south.
M
Our
appreciating
the
value
of
housing
we
got
to
the
situation,
we're
in
because
we
kept
converting
residential
potential
to
commercial
uses.
So
I
have
to
comment
on
the
fact
that
we're
doing
it
again
the
same
thing
that
got
us
into
the
predicament
we
are
in
now
and
the
housing
mitigation
which
ordinance,
which
is
in
the
back
of
your
materials.
M
M
It
is
absurd
to
think
that
the
value
of
this
property
is
128
thousand
dollars
absolutely
absurd,
and
the
building
code
for
Salt
Lake
City
does
not
work,
because
if
I
could
find
a
property
for
120
dollars,
a
square
foot
I
assure
you
I
would
buy
it
even
though
I'm
taxed
too
and
care
for
half.
So
the
numbers
are
junk.
The
ordinance
is
junk
Thanks.
O
You,
my
name,
is
Ben
Walker
I,
live
across
the
north
east
corner
and
then
up
one
Street
up
one
door.
Pardon
me
our
house,
we
recently
purchased
in
May,
the
house
below
us
is
currently
on
a
cup
unoccupied,
and
the
house
above
us
is
also
on
the
market
soon.
That
information
I
think
is
useful
in
understanding
the
parking
concerns
of
the
neighborhood.
There
are
vacant
houses
sitting
there
that
will
probably
be
filled,
which
will
add
cars
to
that
area.
O
I'm,
not
necessarily
opposed
to
the
drawings
I
think
the
Historical
Society
did
a
great
job,
making
sure
that
that
looks
great
so
from
the
visual
street
side.
I
think
that's
positive.
I
am
concerned
with
the
light
pollution.
As
the
previous
community
member
mentioned.
It's
it's
already
a
bit
bright,
especially
at
night
that
does
occupy
a
large
part
of
our
living
room.
Viewing
area
and
additional.
There
are
additional
concerns.
I
have
from
from
previous
the
previous
issue.
O
G
E
P
G
B
F
E
Based
on
the
findings
and
analysis
and
the
staff
report,
testimony
and
discussion
at
the
public
hearing
I
moved
the
Planning
Commission
recommend
the
City
Council
approve
the
proposed
zoning
map,
amendment
filed
peel
and
PCM
2018.
Oh
eight
one
eight
proposed
zone
change
from
SR
1
a
to
s
and
B
zoning
district.
G
G
G
G
C
Okay,
thank
you.
This
item
before
you
is,
is
another
zoning
amendment
to
request
the
properties
are
on
700
west.
The
addresses
are
347
353
and
359
north
three
properties
that
are
currently
zoned
s
r1,
and
the
proposal
is
to
change
that
zoning
to
RMF
35,
which
is
residential,
multi-family
35,
being
the
building
height
limit
for
that
particular
zoning
district
I'll
show
you
a
map
of
the
properties,
so
there
are
three
images
on
this
slide
on.
The
left
is
the
aerial
image
with
the
properties
outlined
in
yellow.
There
are
three
of
them.
C
The
intent
of
the
applicant
is
to
combine
them
into
one
and
develop
them
as
one
project
with
multifamily
units
on
it.
On
the
right-hand
side
of
this
slide,
you
can
see
the
zoning
map
with
the
three
properties
indicated
by
the
red
marks
there.
Sr
one
to
the
south
of
them
is
its
RMF
35
and
to
the
north
is
r1
5000,
and
then
the
image
on
the
bottom
is
just
kind
of
a
larger
area
of
the
zoning.
C
Here
is
another
aerial
image
looking
towards
the
west
and
you
can
see
I-15
there
and
the
property
is
outlined
in
yellow
to
the
left
of
the
properties.
You
can
see
the
existing
multifamily
projects
and
then
to
the
right
of
them.
You
can
see
some
existing
single-family
dwellings
and
here
is
a
panoramic
view
of
the
site
again
looking
to
the
west.
C
Currently
vacant
has
been
vacant
for
a
number
of
years
and
the
not
as
part
of
this
application,
but
the
applicant
has
submitted
a
related
application
for
a
planned
development
to
actually
construct
the
the
project
and
the
Planning
Commission
will
be
reviewing
that
at
a
later
date.
But
tonight
is
just
focused
on
the
zoning
amendment.
C
So
the
again,
the
three
properties
are
zoned
SR,
one
which
is
special
development
pattern,
residential
and
the
the
master
plan
for
the
area.
The
northwest
community
master
plan
has
a
map
designation
for
this
particular
property
as
medium
density,
residential,
the
RMF
35
would
fall
into
that
category.
C
So
considering
those
objectives
of
recent
plans,
the
the
fact
that
those
properties
have
been
undeveloped
for
a
number
of
years,
the
staff
recommends
that
the
zoning
amendment
be
made
from
s
r12,
RMF,
35,
and
also
considering
that
to
the
south.
There
are
existing
multifamily
projects
and
existing
zoning
just
to
point
out
the
public
input
received
so
far.
There
is
an
email
that's
attached
to
the
last
page
of
the
staff
report.
D
D
No
I
remember
reading
that
I
think
I,
basically
1a,
maybe
I
glossed
over
a
because
I
do
remember.
That
part
is
what
was
the
specific
catalyst
to
get
these
two
SR
one?
What
were
they
trying
to
achieve
because
obviously
nothing's
happened
with
it
if
it's
still
undeveloped,
what
was
the
impetus
for
trying
to
make
it
SR
one?
What
were
they
trying
to
get
you?
Okay,.
C
C
Right
so
in
reviewing
the
record
of
the
City
Council
back
in
1999,
when
this
was
changed
from
our
MF
35
to
SR
1,
the
arguments
given
were
the
reason
it
was
pursued
by
the
city
council
was
to
an
attempt
to
stabilize
the
neighborhood
as
a
single,
predominantly
single-family
neighborhood.
There
was
some
concern
at
that
time
about
the
increased
density
of
multifamily
projects.
C
D
So
I'm
gonna
say
that
sometimes
I
ask
these
questions
and
then
you
start
talking
and
I.
Remember
reading
that
I
just
we
read
a
lot
and
so
sometimes
I
forget
I,
didn't
I,
don't
know
that
you
put
the
utilities
in
there
but
I.
Remember
your
discussion
about
the
the
density.
So
I
don't
want
you
to
think
I
didn't
read
the
report
and
it's
just
sometimes
true.
N
A
C
A
E
O
O
O
O
So
the
reason
we
obviously
there's
a
denser
there's
a
population
issue
in
Salt
Lake
there
we
need
more
housing
and
going
to
the
RMF
35
will
accommodate
that.
We
have
partnered
with
a
builder
he
Casey
mentioned
it
briefly.
We
partnered
with
a
builder
already
and
they're
planning
to
do
24
townhomes
here
that
are
high
quality.
Very
nice,
you're,
probably
familiar
with
CW
urban
they've
done
a
lot
of
really
nice
stuff
around
the
community.
O
Not
a
whole
lot
of
things
have
happened
on
the
Westside
I've.
This
is
one
of
the
numerous
projects
and
they've
all
been
on
the
east
side
and
I'm
really
excited
that
there
was
an
opportunity
to
do
something
on
the
west
side,
because
there's
a
lot
of
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
great
opportunity
over
there.
O
Part
of
the
reason
for
this
in
Rose
Park,
specifically
there's
a
lot
of
Millennials
moving
there
and
single-family
is
the
norm.
Obviously,
on
the
on
the
I-15
corridor,
it's
not
necessarily
as
residential
given
that
there's
apartments
next
door,
but
there
is
a
need
just
from
the
people
that
I've
talked
to.
There
is
a
need
for
a
multi-family
product
or
purchase
there.
Isn't
any
I
don't
know
the
plan
specifically,
but
the
plan
originally
was
for
purchase.
O
People
enjoy
not
having
yards
and
things
like
that
and
still
having
nice
places
to
live.
You
look
five
blocks
east
in
marmalade.
There's
tons
of
these
projects
going
up.
The
price
points
are
going
to
be
significantly
higher
than
something
like
this.
This
will
be
in
that
affordable
range.
Obviously,
its
market
value,
so
affordab
ility
is
there's
questions
there.
O
In
my
mind,
the
proposed
plan
has
two
parking
spots
per
unit:
that's
what's
required
in
RMF
35,
so
the
parking
I
believe
won't
be
a
massive
issue
along
the
you
can
see
a
very
small
picture,
but
there
is
a
45
degree
parallel
parking
along
for
along
the
I-15
corridor.
There
and
I've
been
to
this
project
dozens
of
times
and
I
hardly
ever
see
cars
there.
So
I
don't
believe
that
there's
a
congestion
issue
currently
and
that's
it's
pretty
much
it
more
than
I
thought
I
would
are.
H
O
So
that's
been
revised,
it's
24
now,
but
it's
pretty
similar.
So
it's
a
townhome
concept,
three-story
garage
on
the
main
floor,
single-family
or
just
a
living
space
on
the
second
and
then
bedrooms
on
the
third
and
they're
30
feet
tall,
and
that
was
due
to
the
road
restriction
because
I
needed
to
be
a
wide,
a
wide
road
for
fire
access.
O
H
H
Is
that
those
end
units,
so
in
your
case,
the
ones
facing
700
west
still
have
their
front
doors,
oriented
away
from
the
street,
so
I'm,
hoping
that
when
we
get
that
planned
development,
we
see
something
that
really
addresses
700
West
and
so
that
those
front
doors,
at
least
on
the
two
end
units
are
designed
differently
so
that
we
see
some
activation
on
700
West,
not
just
on
the
alleyways
behind
them.
Yeah.
O
G
Q
G
Q
There's
been
a
lot
going
on
police
showing
up
drug
related,
stuff,
shootings
and
I'm
really
really
concerned
that
I
do
not
want
to
have
a
middle-class
apartment
complex
in
there
I'm
kind
of
terrified
of
that
happening
again,
so
I'm
just
showing
my
concern
and
and
if
the
owner
does
me,
if
they're
listening
this
right
now,
my
property
would
be
for
sale.
It's
a
large
lot.
J
N
We
had
not
been
contacted
by
any
of
the
developers
with
regards
to
what
the
what
we
thought
about
their
project
here.
We
I
think
I'm,
a
retired
attorney
and
retired
administrative
law
judge
with
the
federal
government,
no
one's
contacted
Eric
or
your
any
or
listed
property
owners
to
see
what
input
might
we
might
have
into
this
I
think
that's
quite
inappropriate
that
they
would
not
have
at
least
contacted
us
to
find
out
what
we
would
like
to
see
done
with
the
property.
It
is
a
historic
property.
N
N
F
E
F
G
R
My
name
is
Adam
bolson
I
am
also
a
neighbor
of
the
project.
My
house
is
not
for
sale,
I
love
it.
We
moved
there
on
purpose.
We
wanted
that
proximity
to
downtown
so
I
can
understand
people
wanting
to
to
develop
this
area.
I'm
a
realtor
I've
actually
sold
a
unit
for
CW
urban.
My
main
concerns
are
the
height
of
these
buildings.
If
they
conform
to
the
previous
models
that
they've
created.
R
R
This
is
the
corner
of
our
lot.
So
historically,
CW
urban
has
built
right
out
to
the
edge
of
any
lot
that
they
have.
That
would
put
these
front
doors
and
kind
of
the
front
of
these
buildings
looking
right
into
our
backyard.
That
is
uncomfortable.
That's
definitely
not.
You
know
the
main
issue:
it's
it's
the
height,
what
that's
going
to
do
to
the
overall
aesthetic
of
our
backyard
as
far
as
light
pollution
and
visible
structures,
you
know.
Currently
we
don't
have
a
view.
R
We
live
on
the
west
side,
but
having
a
view
of
somebody
else's
kitchen
is
would
be
a
little.
Much
further
concern
is
how
that
number
of
units
would
affect
the
utilities
in
the
area.
I
don't
really
have
a
basis
for
this,
but
earlier
when
a
development
was
taking
place
on
300,
north
and
west,
we
experienced
water
pressure,
drops
I've
been
involved
in
some
other
projects
around
the
city
and
have
heard
from
some
of
the
inspectors
that
people
are
experiencing
that
when
larger
multi-unit
developments
come
in.
Thank.
R
A
A
N
C
In
the
yes
in
1999
and
in
the
end,
the
Planning
Commission
decided
to
go
to
s
r1,
be
notes,
indicate
that
the
property
owner
wanted
to
develop
it
out
of
greater
density
and
not
exactly
sure
that
the
the
reasons
to
for
the
ASR
one
but
yeah
a
driver
for
the
initial
request
was
to
they
wanted
to
stabilize
the
neighborhood.
Did.
A
C
It's
been
so
in
1995
when
the
city
did
their
overall
overarching
zoning,
rewrite
that
was
zone.
2,
RMF
35
before
that
I,
don't
recall
exactly
what
it
was,
but
it
was
a
higher
density
zoning
allowing
for
those
multifamily
projects
there,
the
the
master
plan
has
always
indicated
along
700
west.
Therefore,
a
high
density.
C
A
D
E
D
D
A
A
Region,
like
I,
mean
I'm
looking
looking
the
current
zoning
map,
I
mean
real
if
you
go
from
north
temple
to
7th
north
there's,
no
other
medium
density
or
high
density
or
commercial
properties,
and
then
really
from
the
freeway
all
the
way
back
through
the
fairgrounds
all
the
way
back
to
the
Jordan
River,
it's
all
single-family
residential
and
not
and
not
tall.
It
doesn't
it's
not
like
the
granary
or
17
South.
What
we're
building
up
these
other.
A
The
the
master
plan,
though,
is
frequently
in
salt
lake,
which
has
been
a
pet
peeve
of
mine,
is
that
you
will
have
one
is
that
we
will
zone
the
master
plan.
Aspen
will
match
the
zoning
of
an
area
and
will
amend
at
the
same
time,
and
it,
you
know,
will
be
a
parcel
just
like
just
like
a
parcel
of
zone.
Medium
density.
Is
there
other
property,
zoned,
medium
density
throughout
the
whole
area?
Yes,.
C
C
A
A
What's
there
I
understand
that
the
one
parcel
is
there
as
in
the
master
plan,
this
is
it's
kind
of
zoned,
a
weird
spot,
but
I
read
what's
happened
here
is
that
they
is
that
it's
a
transition
area
and
I'm
not-
and
it's
not
it's
not
this.
It's
not
like
those
other
parts
of
the
town
where
this
this
style
of
development
is
going
in
and
so
I'm
opposed
to
it.
I.
G
Would
I
would
disagree
with
that
analysis?
I
think
that
RMF
35
is
still
a
relatively
low
density,
two-story,
townhouse,
II
type
stuff:
it's
not
the
multi
storey.
You
know
four
or
five
storey
thing
that
we're
seeing
everywhere
and
it's
still
going
to
be
a
fairly
low
density
project,
which
I
think
is
and
also
it
would
bring
into
this
area.
You
know
fresh
blood
so
to
speak,
which
I
know
that
you
could
ask.
You
know
that
do
much.
I
think
you
could
do
a
lot
worse
here,
especially
next
to
7:00
next
to
the
freeway.
D
I
have
to
agree
I'm.
It
feels
to
me
like
one
of
our
jobs
is
the
the
master
plan
has
input
from
neighborhoods
of
what
they
want
the
direction
they
want
to
have
us
go
and
if
we
are
not
changing
now,
I,
don't
know
what
we're
waiting
for.
If
you
know,
if
that's
part
of
the
master
plan,
isn't
that,
where
we're
supposed
to
be
heading
and
I,
think
it's
like
Brenda
said
it's
not
an
overwhelming
zone,
so
I'm
I
would
be
in
favor
of
this
I.
Also.
H
G
B
Would
that
look
like
what
would
that?
What
would
that
probably
look
like
a
two-story
kind
of
like
what's
to
the
to
the
south
of
that
existing?
Would
it
look
a
lot
like
that
of
what
could
be
built
on
it,
I'm
just
trying
to
get
a
an
impact
on
the
backyard
of
the
neighbors,
because
when
you
know
when
we
have
these
units,
are
these
projects
that
turn
sideways?
C
B
C
D
Can
I
make
a
motion
may
based
on
the
information
the
staff
report,
the
information
presented
and
the
input
received
during
the
public
hearing
I
move
that
the
Planning
Commission
recommend
that
the
City
Council
approved
the
REMC
investments.
Zoning
map,
amendment
petition,
PLN
PCM,
2019,
zero,
zero,
six
3h.
G
A
G
H
G
P
Good
evening,
commissioners,
this
is
for
the
design
review
for
the
Kensington
Tower,
which
is
located
at
the
northeast
of
the
intersection
northeast
corner
of
the
intersection
at
200,
South
and
State
Street.
It
is
three
parcels
that
are
being
considered:
they
are
individually
775,
East,
200,
South,
160,
South,
State,
Street
and
60
90
s
200
south,
and
this
design
review
is
specifically
to
modify
a
couple
of
the
standards
that
are
in
the
d1
zone,
where
this
is
located.
P
This
building
is
proposed
to
be
a
residential
apartment,
building,
with
ground-floor
commercial
space
and
in
the
d1
zone,
and
increase
to
the
maximum
height
of
375
feet,
a
reduction
to
the
minimum
height
of
100
feet
and
an
increase.
The
ground-level
setbacks
and
setbacks
are
further
up
above
the
building
all
need
to
be
approved
via
the
Design
Review.
P
So
that's
why
we're
here
to
see
if
it
excuse
me,
that's
why
we're
here
this
evening-
and
this
just
gives
you
a
little
map
of
what
we're
talking
about
where
it's
located
this
site
currently
is
the
home
of
a
fast-food
restaurant,
Carl's
jr.,
there's
also
a
billboard,
that's
located
on
the
site
and
in
that
vigil
right
there,
you
can
see
what
the
three
different
parcels
are.
It's
that's
one
parcel
one
parcel
here
and
then
there's
another
one
right
over
here
in
this
corner.
P
Specifically,
with
the
height
adjustments
and
I
won't
spend
too
much
time
on
this.
The
applicant
will
be
able
to
provide
a
whole
lot
more
information,
but
I'll
just
get
you
through
this
really
quickly.
Basically,
what
they're
asking
for
is
the
section
of
the
building
and
facing
State
Street
will
have
a
maximum
height
of
447
feet,
9
inches,
which
is
above
that
375
and
there's
a
portion
of
the
building.
P
P
In
regards
to
the
setbacks
on
street
level,
they
are
going
to
be
increased
on
State
Street.
Well,
the
maximum
setback
for
the
d1
zone
is
5
feet
and
they're.
Looking
to
increase
on
this
State
Street
facade
between
5
foot,
8,
inches
and
10
feet
7
inches,
it
varies
along
the
face
of
the
building
and
then
on
the
200
south
side.
It
is
between
12
feet,
9
inches
and
13
feet
10
inches
and
that
they're
asking
for
a
little
bit
more
area.
P
There
are
more
than
anything,
to
accommodate
outdoor
dining,
where
they're
planning
on
putting
a
restaurant
on
that
facade
and
200
south,
and
then
additional
setbacks
are
from
level
8
above.
This
is
a
view
looking
down
on
the
building
from
above.
The
big
area
in
the
rear
back
here
is
the
space
that
I
was
actually
referring
to
previously,
which
is
at
83
feet.
So
this
area
of
the
building
is
only
at
83
feet.
P
That's
actually
the
top
of
the
parking
structure
right
there
in
that
area
and
from
there
on
up
it
is
this
outline
of
the
building
here
that
will
continue
on
upward
going.
You
know
reaching
up
higher
into
the
sky
and
with
these
there's
also
increased
setbacks,
you
can
see
how
far
it
is.
Setback
along
these
different
facades
and
on
the
South
facade,
particularly
it's
about
21
feet.
One
inch
in
this
area
here
and
then
a
little
bit
further
up
at
seventeen
feet,
two
inches
and
then
there's
just
this
little
part.
P
P
We're
north
this
is
North.
Is
this
way
this
is
State
Street
running
along
here
and
this
200
South
down
here.
Thank
you.
Yeah
no
problem
and,
like
I,
said
I'm
going
to
leave
this
up
mostly
to
the
architect
to
present
all
this
in
a
much
more
coherent
way,
but
due
to
the
elements
I've
outlined
in
the
staff
report
and
reflected
in
this
presentation,
planning
staff
is
of
the
opinion
that
the
petition
meets
the
design
review
standards
and
that
the
Planning
Commission
should
vote
to
approve.
G
E
E
Where
was
I,
so
we
want
to
be
part
of
the
the
Salt
Lake
City
growth
and
Kensington
investment
company
is
a
long-term
holder.
We
think
we're
a
little
bit
different
than
your
typical
developer.
We
don't
sell,
we've,
never
sold
anything
and
we
intend
on
building
this
and
holding
it
for
decades
to
come
and
with
that
sorry,
with
that
in
mind,
we
build
quality,
we
build
sustainably
and
environmentally
friendly
buildings,
and
with
that
being
said,.
E
S
Do
a
little
bit
of
small
talk
now
it's
gonna
be
challenging
to
cover
the
entire
design
of
this
building
and
everything
it's
doing.
We're
gonna
do
our
best
to
do
that
in
the
remaining
eight
and
a
half
minutes.
Thank
you
very
much.
We
we
wanted
to
start
out.
Sorry,
let
me
try
to
make
this
simple.
You
scream!
Oh
here
we
go.
S
Kensington
Tower
will
be
a
very
unique
and
sustainable
urban
community
that
will
revolutionize
downtown
living,
but
about
approximately
somewhere
between
360
to
380
units,
depending
on
the
final
size
and
mix
and
over
forty
thousand
square
feet
of
outdoor
and
indoor
amenities.
That
will
be
located
on
three
different
levels
and
establish
a
very
strong
relationship
and
activate
not
only
the
street
but
mid-rise,
as
well
as
a
skyline
of
our
city
and
unprecedented
service
that
the
kensington
company
provides
in
some
of
their
properties.
S
We've
seen
this
project
will
significantly
improve
livability
downtown
and
it
will
also
allow
us
to
attract
and
retain
professionals
and
skilled
workers
that
are
thinking
about
moving
to
youth
and
then
complies
to
the
companies
as
well.
In
addition
to
being
a
great
steward
of
the
downtown
plan,
the
project
will
the
tower
will
also
be
a
great
steward
of
the
environment,
as
that
mentioned
we're
going
to
pursuit
LEED,
Gold
certification,
which
will
include
a
variety
of
energy
efficiency
measures.
But
we
will
also
explore
some
very
unique
and
interesting
air
strategy
qualities
as
well
as
on-site.
S
Renewable
energy,
as
Chris
has
already
mentioned,
the
tower,
will
replace
an
existing
College
junior
with
a
fairly
large
surface
parking
lot
with
a
high
density
housing
project
that
will
pretty
much
take
up
the
entire
full
coverage
of
the
lot
as
intended
by
the
Salt
Lake
City
zoning
code
and,
in
doing
so,
will
add
a
missing
piece
and
address
one
of
the
major
corners
of
our
downtown
between
second
south
and
State
Street.
We
understand
the
importance
of
activating
the
street
corners.
S
So,
as
we
started
laying
out
the
programming,
you
can
see
that
we
placed
we're
taking
advantage
of
the
prominent
corner
by
placing
the
main
entry,
as
well
as
the
two-story
lobby.
Space
right
on
the
corner,
which
will
activate
street
frontage
on
both
streets,
were
continuing
that
Street
activation
to
the
west,
with
a
retail
that
does
have
an
outdoor
retail
component.
That
Chris
alluded
to
and
that's
again
primarily
intended
to
provide
more
pedestrian
activity
and
enhance
interest
along
the
street
edge.
S
All
the
service
and
parking
components
will
be
placed
away
from
the
street
corner
in
accordance
with
the
city
standards,
so
the
service
entrance
will
be
all
the
way
after
the
north.
The
tenant
parking
that
will
be
all
enclosed
on
the
upper
levels
of
the
building
will
be
all
the
way
to
the
west,
and
these
are
the
areas
where
we
primarily
seeking
for
the
increased
setbacks
and
it's
really
to
meet
the
transportation
and
udot's
safety
standards
for
the
for
the
pedestrians.
S
So
as
the
cars
are
pulling
in
and
now
they
have
a
better
view
of
the
pedestrians
all
the
service,
Street
offloading
waste
and
recycling
pickup
will
take
within
the
footprint
of
the
building
itself,
in
accordance
with
the
with
the
solid
city
zoning
code.
But
this
rendering
you've
already
seen,
really
shows
you
how
the
project
intends
to
activate
the
street
corner
with
a
two-story
high
Lobby
high
level
of
transparency
on
that
ground
level.
S
You
also
start
to
see
how
the
columns
of
the
building
start
creating
a
rhythm
that
will
break
down
the
perceived
length
of
the
building
in
both
directions.
If
you
start
looking
to
the
left
along
second
South,
you
start
to
get
glimpses
of
the
door
of
the
lobby
lounge
and
the
outdoor
seating
for
the
retail.
S
You
also
start
to
get
a
glimpse
of
the
first
amenity
level,
which
we
feel
will
be
a
significant
contribution
to
activate
in
the
street
again,
not
just
at
the
street
level,
but
throughout
the
height
of
the
building,
which
will
be
very
unique
for
city
building
massing.
We
just
wanted
to
talk
briefly
how
we
went
about
breaking
down
and
modulating
the
mass
of
the
building.
S
So
what
we
did
is
we
can
deliberately
place
the
tallest
portion
of
the
tower
right
along
State
Street
to
adjust
Street
edge
and
then
we're
stepping
the
building
down
towards
the
mid
block
development
that
we
know
it's
limited
to
100
feet
in
height,
we're
using
the
amenities
that
we
alluded
to
to
basically
break
down
on
modulate
the
building
vertically
and
we're
basically
in
doing
so,
we're
creating
the
base.
The
major
and
high-rise
portion
of
the
building
that
as
you've
seen
in
that
reading,
will
show.
S
It
again
starts
relating
a
lot
better
to
the
surrounding
buildings
around
us
and
then,
lastly,
we're
also
modulating
the
building
vertically,
as
well
and
using
material
changes
in
articulation
to
further
reduce
its
perceived
scale
and
mass.
So
this
is
the
rendering
you've
already
seen.
We
just
wanted
to
point
out
how,
in
its
context,
were
basically
creating
a
podium
zone,
that's
relating
to
lower
buildings
along
the
street
edge.
If
you
look
at
the
height
of
the
walkers
center
podium
and
walkers
Center
garage,
then
the
next
mid
rise
zone.
S
In
addition
to
modulating
the
mass
itself,
we're
also
using
facade
articulation
to
further
reduce
the
perceived
height
and
scale
of
the
building
on
the
south
side
is
primarily
glass
taken
advantage
of
the
wonderful
southeast
views
of
the
valley.
We
are
articulating
that
facade
with
the
photovoltaic
fins,
but
then
on
the
east
and
west
facade,
the
facade
is
taking
more
of
a
residential
character
by
providing
deeply
recessed
windows.
That
also
start
relating
to
some
of
the
language
and
proportions
of
the
surrounding
buildings.
S
To
relate
to
the
neighborhood
character
as
well,
you
can
start
to
see
how
we're
playing
with
the
size
and
proportions
of
the
windows
by
basically
using
two
and
three
floors
and
making
them
into
a
single
window
expression
again
in
effort
to
reduce
the
height
of
the
building
itself.
You
start
also
to
understand
house
we're
introducing
secondary
vertical,
as
well
as
horizontal
emphasis
to
further
reduce
the
scale
of
the
building.
S
This
is
the
rendering
that
shows
the
design
you've
seen
at
the
very
beginning.
That
demonstrates
how
the
slender
tower
on
State
Street
starts
to
step
down
and
create
a
transition
to
the
mid
block
development,
which
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
pursue
the
building
height
variants
for
the
tower
portion
of
it.
In
anticipation
of
the
future
mid
block
development
from
the
opposite
side,
I
think
this
rendering
very
well
shows
the
all
the
outdoor
amenities
that
I
was
alluding
to,
and
this
is
the
portion
of
the
tower
that
Chris
was
talking
about
that.
S
It's
below
100
feet.
It's
basically
an
outdoor
park
that
sits
on
top
of
the
parking
garage
and
the
tears
that
wraps
all
the
way
around.
We
have
a
pool
deck
on
top
of
the
mid
rise
building
and
then
finally,
we
have
the
rooftop
terrace,
which
will
make
a
significant
statement
on
the
town
downtown
skyline.
We
also
use
the
opportunity
to
incorporate
the
40-foot
tall
elevator
overruns
and
the
mechanical
penthouse
to
really
create
a
single,
cohesive,
architectural
expression,
so
that
the
tower
will
look
good
from
all
angles,
including
from
the
University
of
Utah.
S
G
S
D
S
Right,
the
tenant
parking
will
basically
have
its
own.
We
intentionally
wanted
to
separate
the
two
because
last
have
his
tenants,
commingling
with
moving
trucks
and
garbage
trucks,
so
the
tenants
are
going
to
have
a
jump
ramp
that
goes
up
a
level
and
then
all
the
parking
is
as
you've
seen
it
in
this
rendering,
basically
on
these
levels,
which
are
also
glad
that
are
facing
seconds
up
so.
S
A
S
S
E
P
S
That's
there,
we
felt
that
the
retail
on
this
side
was
a
lot
more
effective.
Having
worked
on
the
echoes
theater
and
we
co-authored
the
master
plan
with
Polly,
Clarke
Pelli
were
very
familiar.
What
happens
on
Regent
Street,
and
we
feel
that
activating
the
street
corner
in
providing
this
retail
and
second
salt,
which
hopefully
continues
with
the
future
development,
will
complete
a
continuous
retail
on
the
street
level,
all
the
way
to
Regent
Street
and
then
up
to
City
Creek.
E
P
S
D
S
G
E
My
name
is
Dale
Abbott
I'm,
just
a
citizen
of
actually
tailored
we'll
just
wanted
to
put
my
two
cents
in
worth
about
it.
This
project
I
think
it's
fantastic.
It's
about
time.
The
city
got
a
project
like
this.
It's
been
a
long
long
time
and
you
know
I
think
it'd
be
a
great.
You
know
addition
to
our
skyline
and
the
city
and
I
just
feel
like
it
would
be
a
really
good
addition
to
downtown
Salt
Lake.
It's
about
time.
We
got
a
new
tallest
after
almost
20
years.
It's
been
a
long
wait.
E
This
is
some,
but
it's
a
really
neat.
Looking
building
I
love,
the
design
of
it.
I
think
it
would
be
a
you
know,
fantastic
addition
to
downtown
it
would
finally
get.
You
know
that
corner
that
it's
all
is
the
most
probably
one
of
the
most
underutilized
Lots
and
downtown
Salt
Lake
I
can't
believe,
there's
a
Carl
jr.
that
has
set
there
for
years
and
years.
E
D
M
It's
entirely
possible
for
me
to
talk
for
two
minutes
and
not
say
anything
negative.
You
just
have
to
have
a
good
enough
project
to
state
your
name
for
the
record.
Andy
Cromer
and
Doug
Dancy
is
far
more
qualified
to
address
the
turning
points
and
the
development
of
housing
downtown
than
I
am.
But
in
my
thinking
this
project
is
very
likely
to
qualify
as
a
turning
point
in
the
development
of
housing
downtown.
M
I
appreciate
tremendously
the
project
team,
the
members
of
the
project
team,
attended
the
Central
City
neighborhood
council,
not
just
one
of
them,
but
the
whole
team.
We
had
a
lot
of
talent
in
the
room
talking
to
our
little
group
and
those
perspectives
in
the
materials
are
just
fantastic
over
the
top
I
know
what
this
building
will
look
like
if
I'm
a
pedestrian,
a
bird,
a
plane
or
an
in
another
building.
Looking
at
this
one
so
other
than
my
derogatory
remarks
about
stick
framing
you
had
it
thanks.
T
T
There's
a
residence
and
Jeannie
smoke
shop
above
everybody's
used
this
for
well
over
24
years
and
Jeannie's
even
longer,
maybe
decades
and
I
think
that
the
only
resolution
for
us
is
to
be
able
to
get
12
feet
between
our
building
and
their
building.
So
we
can
drive
back
to
our
property
and
still
use
it.
The
way
we've
always
used
it
and
that's
what
we're
asking
for
and
we've
had
some
discussion
with
kensington
group,
but
nothing's
ever
been
resolved.
T
So
my
recommendation
is
so
we
can
keep
our
prescriptive
easement.
We
come
off
of
State
Street
between
the
two
buildings.
We
need
about
12
feet
to
get
a
trash
pick
her
up
and
you
know
pawnshop
deliveries
bikes.
Whoever
brings
brings
their
their
items
into
their
tobacco
delivery,
soda
deliveries,
the
Jeannie's
parking
and
so
on,
and
so
forth
and
I.
Thank
you
for
listening
and
that's
we're
at.
Thank
you.
Thank.
G
P
I
mention
that
in
the
staff
report,
basically
what
it
comes
down
to
is
it's
a
civil
matter
and
we're
not
considering
that
through
this
forum,
I've,
let
the
applicant
know
that
that
needs
to
be
worked
out.
I
told
I
asked
them
if
they
wanted
to
hold
off
and
see
if
they
needed
to
alter
their
design,
and
they
chose
to
move
forward
with
it,
with
the
understanding
that
if
it
requires
a
major,
auto
modification
to
the
building
or
something
like
that,
they
may
have
to
come
back
and
go
through
this
process
again.
O
A
P
E
E
B
Have
a
question
about
just
because
I'm
curious
I
Drive
along
2nd
south
a
lot,
my
husband
works
on
2nd
south
and
it's
a
pretty
active.
It
can
be
very
active
street
at
times
with
pedestrians,
walking
over
to
Eccles
and
over
to
galavan
and
and
that
sort
of
thing
and
I
just
didn't
know
if
there
was
any
consideration
to
the
residential
access
being
on
2nd
South
and
the
service
on
to
state
and
whether
or
not
that
is
one
more
impactful
than
the
other
or
if
that
is
even
I,
you
know
I.
B
P
Didn't
consider
that
in-depth
transportation
definitely
didn't,
and
you
know,
potentially
the
argument
could
be
made
that
they
chose
a
less
busy
street.
For
that
you
know
compared
to
State
Street,
so
I
don't
know
I
I
haven't.
Can
I
didn't
consider
that
personally
much
in
depth
at
all,
when
I
was
doing
the
staff
report,
it
might
not
matter
I.
P
G
P
Believe
so
you
know
we
haven't
had
anything
like
that,
but
per
the
way
that
the
code
is
written,
it
and
say:
there's
a
maximum,
so
I
think
the
major
thing
is.
It
goes
through
this
design
review
process
that
if
somebody
wants
to
come
in
and
build
a
very
tall
skyscraper
that
we
have
the
ability
to
make
sure
that
it's
not
having
too
many
negative
impacts
and.
G
P
G
P
A
A
G
G
H
Think
that
the
that
height
is
a
function
of
the
market
and
I'm
glad
that
our
market
in
Salt
Lake
has
reached
a
point
where
we're
no
longer
doing
as
Cindy
talked
about
for
stories
of
stick
framing.
So
personally,
I
think
this
is
I,
agree.
I,
think
this
is
a
turning
point
and
I'm
very
excited
about
it.
I
tried
to
put
on
my
teacher
hat
and
and
and
create
design
critique
and
I
and
I
really
can't
find
any
actually
I
think
it's
a
great
project.
B
P
You
know
also
the
horizontal
elements
that
are
brought
into
it
and
personally
I
really
thought
that
the
way
that
they
crowned
the
building
and
that
element
that's
at
the
top
of
the
structure
and
it's
reflected
down
on
the
on
the
lower
level
along
200
South.
Where
there's
a
pool
down
there
and
they've
got
an
element,
that's
got
a
roof
covering
that
area.
Also
for
me,
personally,
it
just
seems
like
it
is
a
distinctive
design.
It
adds
to
our
skyline.
P
In
my
personal
opinion,
it's
a
beautiful
building
and
I
think
that
it
brings
something
that's
different
and
new,
and
that
will
you
know,
help
it
live
in
the
area
in
general
and
I.
Think
also,
you
know
the
way
that
they've
articulated
the
building
and
laid
it
out.
They
are
referring
well
to
neighboring
structures.
Also-
and
you
know,
they're
not
gonna-
be
sticking
out
like
a
sore
thumb
with
this,
with
this
building
I
believe,
but
adding
to
the
skyline
and
and.
B
P
B
I,
don't
know
that's
too
necessary,
and
then
there
were
some
questions
about
the
street
active
ization
based
on
the
you
know,
a
vast
majority
of
that
being
the
lobby
for
the
apartment
and
I
think
that
there
is
one
of
the
standards
to
consider.
Is
that
sort
of
pedestrian
interest
in
interaction
and
so
I'm
curious
about
your
analysis
with
that
as
well?
I
think
with.
P
That
the
way
that
I
really
looked
at
that
was
not
necessarily
the
use
so
much,
but
they
have
that
two-story
glass
along
the
entire
facade,
from
going
from
both
those
corners
which
invites
people
to
be
looking
into
the
building
and
see
what's
going
on
inside,
very
open
as
far
as
echoes
broken
up
and
articulated
by
those
pillars
that
come
down
the
building
and
interact
with
the
sidewalk
there.
And
yes,
the
street
on
200
South
will
be
much
more
active
with
the
restaurant
there.
P
E
E
O
D
S
Well,
if
you
look
at
the
footprint
of
the
building
itself,
this
is
this
is
a
super
high-rise
building
and
by
the
time,
we're
satisfying
all
the
Salt
Lake
City
zoning
code.
In
terms
of
loading
offloading,
we
have
three
loading
docks.
We
have
to
provide
maneuvering
inside
of
our
property
for
the
trucks
to
be
able
to
turn
around
and
get
out,
Safeway
the
rest,
basically,
everything
that
you
see
in
gray
here
all
code
required
or
MEP
related
utility
rooms.
S
So
for
building
of
this
density
in
size,
we
actually
have
a
very
small
percentage
of
usable
real
estate
for
all
intended
purposes.
If
you
take
the
entire
footprint
of
the
building
and
subtract,
all
of
that,
including
the
retail,
that's
required
by
Salt
Lake
City
code,
because
we're
part
of
the
main
street
retail
core,
the
only
usable
area
that
we
have
for
the
project
itself,
it's
basically
right
here
now
the
argument
that
you're
making
is,
could
we
have
taken
the
retail
and
put
it
on
the
corner
on
the
other
side?
S
Potentially
yes,
but
we
felt
that
second
south
and
the
connection
to
the
future
development
which
we
happen
to
have
design
in
the
past.
So
we
know
a
little
bit
about
it.
Unfortunately,
some
of
it's
still
confidential
and
we
can
talk
about
it
in
this
forum
and
continuation
of
retail
on
Regent
Street
would
be
much
more
a
better
connection
than
putting
in
on
State
Street.
Okay,.
D
S
A
great
point,
but,
like
you
pointed
out
with
the
site
constraints
and
trying
to
really
separate
the
service
entrance
and
the
trucks
from
vehicles,
we
really
didn't
have
a
lot
of
choice.
Now,
I
will
say
that
we
really
hope
in
anticipate
by
the
time
this
project
is
constructed
and
open
that
the
mentality
in
Salt,
Lake
City
will
have
changed.
We
actually
started
with
by
providing
only
0.5
stalls
per
unit.
We
were
very
bold.
S
We
are
providing
an
electric
car
share
program
that
the
tenants
can
use
we're,
providing
a
bicycle
share
program
that
the
tenants
can
use
we're.
Half
a
block
away
from
tracks,
lined
we're
in
a
major
bus
transit,
we're
doing
a
lot
of
other
things
we
haven't
talked
about
in
there.
You
know
seven
minutes
I
had
left
how
we
had.
S
Are
we
going
to
address
inequality
at
least
try
to
by
making
the
residents
aware
of
when
we
have
bad
air
quality
days
and
making
them
at
least
trying
to
encourage
them
to
write
public
transportation
or
use
one
of
our
vehicles?
So
the
reason
I'm
bringing
all
of
this
up?
We
don't
think
that
majority
of
people
that
are
living,
we're,
hoping
will
be
actually
working
downtown
and
not
everybody
is
gonna,
have
one
or
two
cars.
D
D
S
S
G
So
is
there
any
other
discussion
of
this
building?
I
will
say
one
thing,
which
is
that
I'm
not
very
happy
about
having
no
pedestrian
entrances
at
all
on
State
Street
we've
got
a
you
know,
a
we're
getting
a
pretty
boring,
State
Street
edge,
especially
since
we
have
the
hotel
just
to
the
south
of
that
which
has
an
entrance,
but
it's
fronted
by
a
car,
drop-off
area
and,
of
course,
the
wonderful-looking
telephone
building
just
to
the
north.
Well,.