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Planning Commission Meeting - 03/11/2020
A
C
D
A
F
First
thing
had
more
in
regards
to
the
business
of
the
Planning
Commission
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
guys
an
idea
of
what
we
have
coming
up.
We
right
now
have
77
applications
that
are
pending
Planning
Commission
approval
sitting
in
our
office.
Just
our
those
applications
are
up
168
percent
this
calendar
year.
So
just
wanted
to
give
you
guys
a
heads
up
that
that's
good
right
now.
Applications
that
get
submitted
to
the
city
now
are
not
going
to
be
before
you
until
August
or
September
at
the
schedule
that
we're
going
with.
F
So
it's
going
to
be
a
fairly
hectic
period
of
time.
One
of
the
reasons
why
I
bring
that
up
is
that
we
also
have
the
potential
to
have
pretty
serious
disruptions
of
public
meetings
in
the
city,
with
the
everything
that's
going
on
with
Kovan
19
and
all
that
fun
stuff.
So
I
wanted
to
give
you
guys
an
update
on
what
the
city's
doing
for
that
and
to
prepare
for
that.
I
do
think
that
we're
pretty
far
ahead
of
the
curve
on
this.
F
So
we
are
currently
working
on
setting
up
systems
where
we
can
have
different
types
of
public
meetings
and
public
hearings.
There's
some
some
laws
that
are
in
place
that
mean
that
basically
state
the
majority
of
the
body
has
to
be
in
the
same
place,
a
quorum,
so
we're
figuring
out
rules
and
procedures
to
deal
with
that
in
case,
we
end
up
having
a
more
widespread
issue
in
the
city
with
it.
So
we
do
anticipate
that
there
will
be
some
changes
that
you
will
experience
at
the
public
hearings
and
meetings.
F
We
know
that
internally
we
are
going
to
be
having
a
number
of
changes
that
start
going
into
effect
as
soon
as
tomorrow.
Most
of
those
just
deal
with
our
day
to
day
business.
So
we
know,
there's
gonna,
be
some
trial
and
error.
We're
gonna
try
to
do
the
best
we
can
to
figure
those
out
and
to
keep
operations
moving
as
smoothly
as
we
possibly
can.
F
But
in
the
meantime
there
are
some
things
that
we
can
do
during
these
meetings.
First
off.
If,
if
any
of
the
commissioners
are
uncomfortable
being
in
a
public
setting,
let
us
know
and
we'll
figure
it
out.
If
we
have
a
quorum,
that's
great!
If
we
don't
we'll
figure
we'll
do
what
we
can
to
try
to
find
a
solution.
F
One
thing
that
happens
a
lot
at
these
meetings
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
is
that
there's
all
kinds
of
debris
left
in
the
room:
napkins
used
cups.
If
you
have
a
cup
and
you
have
a
napkin,
it's
your
job
to
throw
it
away.
It's
not
ours
and
so
make
sure
that
you
are
doing
that.
We
will
shame
you
if
you
don't
so
we'll
find
a
way
to
do
that
appropriately,
but
it'll
it'll
happen.
F
So
we
are
gonna,
be
kind
of
winging
it
a
little
bit
tonight
until
we
can
figure
out
a
more
standard
protocol.
But
has
we
opened
public
hearings?
We
will
ask
if
anybody
by
show
of
hands
who
wants
to
speak
and
then
we'll
we'll,
probably
use
the
front
row
to
organize
speakers.
So
you
can
come
up,
sit
there
and
then
we'll
leave
it
up
to
the
chair
to
start
left
right
right
to
left
or
whatever,
and
we
will
go
from
there
because
we
try
to
respect
and
get
everybody's
names
right.
F
If
you
have
a
name
that
may
be
difficult
to
hear
on
a
recording,
please
feel
free.
To
spell
it.
We
won't
start
our
time
until
we
know
who
is
at
the
table,
but
it,
but
it
is
a
requirement
that
we
know
who
is
speaking
so
state
your
name
at
the
beginning,
and
we
will
do
the
best
we
can
and
I
think
one
other
thing
that
that
we
are
we
are
going
to
be
looking
at
internally
is
how
we
deal
with
public
meetings
and
public
engagement
and
everything
else.
F
They
are
just
as
important
to
us
now.
They're
used
differently
depending
on
the
type
of
application,
that's
before
everybody,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
that
message
is
loud
and
clear.
So
we
may
be
changing
how
we
present
some
of
the
comments
that
we've
already
heard
so
that
they're
more
prevalent,
particularly
the
issues
identified,
so
that
you
guys
are
aware
of
those
things
and
so
that
we
we
maintain
a
certain
level
of
access
to
the
public
and
equity
in
how
we
do
our
business.
A
A
That's
something
I
guess
we
can
think
about.
Well,
thank
you
for
that
very
uplifting
and
inspiring
report.
Nick.
Okay.
We
will
now
move
on
to
the
public
hearing
portion
of
the
agenda
and,
as
Nick
said,
we
typically
have
cards
for
members
of
the
public
to
fill
out
and
then
they
would
be
delivered
to
us
and
that's
how
we
organize
speakers.
A
If
everyone
has
two
minutes
to
speak
on
on
the
topic,
we
give
community
council
representatives
five
minutes
and
we
ask
them
to
come
first
and
otherwise
we'll
just
try
to
move
through
this
and
keep
it
as
orderly,
as
we
can
so.
First
item
on
the
agenda
number
one
Adu
conditional
use
at
approximately
16
95
South
Wasatch
Drive
case
number
PLN
PCM
2020
dash
zero,
zero,
zero
1
2
and
we
have
Krissy.
G
H
Evening,
so
this
is
a
conditional
use
request
for
a
detached
accessory
dwelling
unit
at
a
property
located
approximately
16
95
South
Wasatch
Drive.
The
property
is
zoned
r1,
12,000,
single-family
residential,
which
quire's
conditionally
approval.
You
can
see
from
the
photographs
on
the
screen.
This
is
the
primary
residence
and
then
it
is
surrounded
by
r1,
12,000
and
then
r1
7,000
to
the
west,
so
surrounded
by
primarily
single-family
structures.
H
The
proposal
is
the
detached
accessory
dwelling
unit.
It
was
proposed
to
be
located
in
the
northeast
corner
of
the
rear
yard.
It
was
also
surrounded
by
a
6-foot
vinyl
fence.
It's
so
it's
not
see-through
I'm.
The
building
footprint
is
parks,
my
432
square
feet
and
it's
a
one-story
structure
that
measures
approximately
11
feet.
3
inches.
The
entrance
of
the
Adu
faces
the
South
watt
line,
and
there
is
a
window
that
faces
the
the
rear
facade
of
the
single-family
dwelling.
H
H
So,
just
looking
at
some
site
context
photos,
so
this
top
photo
on
the
left
is
the
approximate
location
of
the
accessory
dwelling
unit
in
the
rear
yard,
looking
towards
the
rear
of
the
single-family
dwelling,
and
then
this
top
right
image
shows
the
driveway
where
the
proposed
tandem
parking
would
be
for
the
unit.
And
then
you
have
a
photo
just
of
the
other
side
of
the
house
and
a
photo
of
the
stree.
That
shows
that
there
is
parking
on
street,
but
they
are
proposing
the
parking
to
be
located
on
the
driveway.
H
As
far
as
public
comments
goes,
the
east
bench
community
council
requested
that
staff
and
the
applicant
presents
at
their
february
meeting
at
the
meeting.
The
community
council
and
members
of
the
public
expressed
concerns
with
ad
use
in
general
that
there
really
specifically,
that
they
increased
density
of
their
neighborhood
and
then
with
this
was
the
vacay
to
you.
They
had
concerns
about
parking.
The
original
site
plans
for
this
project
showed
parking
on
the
street,
and
the
community
council
requested
that
it
be
moved
to
the
on
site
on
the
property
I'm.
H
The
applicant
did
comply
with
that
request
and
moved
the
parking
to
the
driveway.
So
that's
why
you
don't
see
it
as
a
condition
of
approval,
because
it's
it's
on
the
site
plan
which
they
are
bound
by
additionally,
following
the
meeting
staff
received
notice
that
the
primary
residence
is
currently
being
used
as
an
Airbnb.
So
it's
now
under
enforcement
for
that
moving
forward.
They
they
do
have
to
comply
with
the
registration
requirements
where
they
could.
The
owner
has
to
live
in
one
of
the
two
units.
H
They
can
either
live
in
the
aide
to
you
or
the
maid
residence,
but
they
can't
rent
both
out
and
then
eight-hour.
Babies
are
not
allowed
in
residential
zone,
so
they
do
need
to
come
and
to
compliance
with
for
that
as
well
moving
forward
if
the
Adu
is
approved,
if
they
don't
follow
those
registration
requirements,
their
conditional
use
can
be
revoked.
H
So
it
really
does
come
down
to
enforcement
and
paying
attention,
but
if
they
don't
follow
those
those
registration
requirements
such
as
a
deed
restriction
that
says
that
one
of
the
units
has
to
be
owner
occupied,
their
conditional
use
could
be
revoked.
So,
in
conclusion,
based
on
the
findings
in
your
staff
report,
planning
staff
does
recommend
approval.
H
E
H
E
H
C
F
That
would
depend
on
the
level
of
enforcement
that
he
gets
to,
but
basically
the
city
would
have
to
enforce
on
the
use
of
the
air
B&B
which
isn't
allowed
in
the
zone.
Short-Term
rentals
aren't
allowed
in
the
residential
zones
it.
The
options
that
are
available
to
the
city
could
be
revoking
the
conditional
use
for
the
Adu,
in
which
case
they
could
not
use
it,
and
we
I
don't.
C
J
Think
the
first
thing
we
want
to
address
is
the
air
B&B,
because
I
think
that's
the
primary
importance
on
this
one.
So
the
the
owner
is
renting
a
room
using
Airbnb,
but
he
only
rents
it
at
a
minimum
30
days.
So
it's
not
technically
a
short-term
rental.
It's
actually
more
of
a
longer
term
rental.
So
he
has
several
residents
that
have
stayed
with
him
for
two
three
five
month
periods.
So
it's
a
in
terms
of
a
short-term
rental.
J
It
actually
is
not
a
short-term
rental,
the
way
that
he
rents
it
and
if
you
go
on
Airbnb
and
look
at
its
listing,
you'll
see
that
that's
a
minimum
date
of
30,
so
we've
kind
of
handled
that
and
we
have
supporting
evidence
as
well.
If
you
guys
want
to
look
at
it
in
terms
of
you
know
the
people
that
have
rented
from
him
and
previous
bookings
so.
J
A
You,
okay,
we
will
now
move
on
to
the
public
hearing.
I
will
go
ahead
and
open
the
public
hearing
and
can
I
see
a
show
of
hands
if
who
would
like
to
speak?
Okay,
just
you
is
there
anyone
here
from
the
community
council,
okay,
I'll,
ask
the
community
council
reps
to
come
first,
yes,
please
and
then
make
that's.
Welcome
just
make
sure
to
state
your
name
for
the
record
into
the
microphone
and
you'll
have
five
minutes.
My.
K
Name
is
Amy
burrows
AI
m
ee
b.
You
are
r
OWS
and
I'm
the
chair
of
the
East
bench
community
council,
like
I,
said
this
is
our
first
conditional
use
request.
Since
the
Adu
rule
is
new
and
you
may
or
may
not
know
that
our
neighborhood
in
our
community
council
has
not
embraced
the
ATU
law
we
tried
to
get,
you
know,
get
it
phased
into
our
neighborhood
and
that
kind
of
stuff.
So
when
we
had
our
meeting
in
February
19th,
there
were
a
lot
of
comments
about.
K
We
just
don't
want
a
to
use.
It
just
doesn't
match
the
character
of
our
neighborhood.
There
were
concerns
about
enforcement,
a
lot
of
concerns
about
enforcement,
because
enforcement
is
tough.
It
doesn't.
We
hear
lots
of
horror
stories
about
things
that
don't
get
fixed
through
code
enforcement
and
my
understanding
of
the
there
was
a
lot
of
concern
of
that
meeting
as
well,
not
just
in
general,
but
in
specific
to
this
property.
K
How
many
renters
can
stay
in
the
main
house
and
how
many
renters
can
stay
in
the
ATU
and
I'm?
Not
my
understanding
is
that
three
unrelated
people-
that's
the
maximum
number
of
people
that
can
rent
in
a
residential
area.
Does
that
include
the
one
or
two
I
mean
it's
a
small
ad,
you
I,
don't
know,
I,
don't
know
the
answer.
K
Somebody
can
tell
me
the
answer
that
I
I
don't
know
what
it
is
and
my
understanding
as
well
that
when
code
enforcement
made
their
investigation
of
this
home
that
they
found
that
there
were
three
rooms
being
rented
in
this
home,
potentially
to
one
or
two.
If
you,
if
you
looked
it
up
on
Airbnb
last
week,
I
was
able
to
reserve
a
room
in
this
home
for
seven
days,
not
4:30.
So
he's
recently
changed
since
his
code
enforcement
has
come
around.
K
He's
recently
changed
the
listing
to
put
it
at
30
days,
which
would
be
in
compliance,
but
that's
not
always
been
the
rule,
and
it
was
only.
He
only
changed
it
last
week
and
there
are
several
kind
of
reviews.
That
said,
when
I
stayed
there
for
three
days,
it
was
a
great
or
my
one
week
stay
there
very
comfortable.
K
There
are
several
reviews
that
say
we
had
a
wonderful
time
here,
which
indicates
it's
renting
to
more
than
one
person
at
a
time.
So
there
is
a
short-term
stay
and
that's
part
of
the
problem
with
this
ad
you
it's
a
it's
a
person,
who's
already
kind
of
not
following
the
rules
about
who
can
rent
this
space
in
this
type
of
a
neighborhood,
and
there
will
just
be
additional
space
for
that.
So
there
was
specific
concern
about
that.
K
We
didn't
know
about
the
rental
of
the
property
until
a
neighbor
told
us
later
that
traffic
was
people
are
speeding
around
and
he's
renting
space
in
that
home.
So
it's
there's
an
actual
specific
argument
against
this
property
being
allowed
and
if
the
only
changes
that
he's
made
in
the
last
week
is
to
change
it
so
that
now
you
have
to
rent
for
30
days
instead
of
seven
days
like
it
was
last
week.
K
That's
a
simple
change
to
make
after
it
gets
off
of
your
desk
and
I
wonder
if
maybe
this
guy
needs
to
spend
three
months
renting
appropriately
and
following
the
rules
for
short-term
rentals
for
this
kind
of
neighborhood.
So
that's
our
like
I
said
this
is
our
first
time.
This
is
our
first
ATU
request
and
the
vote
went
the
way
it
did.
B
My
name
is
Brooke
Carrington
I
also
serve
on
the
east,
bound
Community,
Council
Amy,
as
our
chair
and
I'm,
one
of
the
vice
chairs.
We
also
understand
this
Airbnb
listing
at
some
point
required.
The
tenants
the
renters
to
park
on
the
streets
and
I
do
have
a
little
bit
of
a
gripe
about
the
photos
that
have
been
presented.
They
they
make
it
look
like
there's
plenty
of
space
and
plenty
of
parking.
There
is
plenty
of
space
and
plenty
of
parking,
but
it's
usually
full
and
along
this
stretch,
particularly
there
are
there.
B
A
I
My
name
is
Stewart
Louie
I'm,
actually
the
owner
of
that
that
residents-
and
let
me
tell
you
exactly
what's
going
on
there-
yes,
I
do
have
renters
there
and
they
are
on
a
30-day
I'm,
not
gonna,
say
that
I
haven't
in
the
past.
Every
every
tenant
I
have
probably
within
the
last
six
months.
I've
been
a
30-day
rental
and
I.
Don't
do
short-term
rentals
anymore,
because
it's
not
worth
it
to
me
as
far
as
the
parking
goes,
I
have
ample
parking
up
at
the
top.
Yes,
I
do
have
a
pool
on
the
back.
I
The
reason
why
I'm
putting
this
unit
in
is
because
I
generally
have
relatives
that
come
stay
with
me
and
as
an
added
income
source
I
do
rent
it
out
and
I
was
originally
planning
a
pool
house
backer.
But
what
this
is
it
gives
me
a
turnkey
option,
so
I
actually
went
with
this
sort
of
ad
you
and
what
they're
talking
about?
There's
never
I've
never
had
a
problem
with
neighbors
talking
about
people,
I've
had
rent
from
me
parking
or
any
other
disturbance.
So
these
problems
that
they're
bringing
up
are
really
unfounded.
I
I,
don't
see
if
you
go
on
Airbnb,
you
can
see
I'm
a
super
host
I
do
everything
by
the
books.
I
was
kind
of
unaware
of
the
fact
that
you
couldn't
rent
for
less
than
30
days.
I
am
in
compliance
with
that,
so
essentially
I'm
following
everything
by
the
rules,
you
can
have
as
many
as
three
people
stay
with
you
in
any
one.
Residence
I
have
not
exceeded
that
and
again,
the
only
reason
I'm
doing
this
is
so
I
can
have
space
again
for
my
relatives
that
come
stay
with
me.
I
So
that's
kind
of
the
the
the
whole
background
of
why
I'm
putting
this
unit
in
and
it's
so
private
back
there.
You
can't
even
tell
that
anybody
is
back
there.
My
lot
in
particular,
is
probably
unique
in
the
sense
that
is
very
big.
It's
it's
a
point,
five
five
acre
lot
and
it's
surrounded
by
fencing.
I
If
you
were
to
look
from
the
street,
you
wouldn't
even
know
that
a
unit
was
back
there,
we're
talking
about
a
432
square
foot
structure.
It
is
not
a
big
structure.
I've
seen
larger
structures
than
that
that
you
know
can
be
accommodated
back
there,
but
I'm
just
going
with
one
number
one
to
accommodate
relatives
coming
in
to
stay
with
me,
and
if
I
can't
do
that.
I
Yes,
obviously
I
may
rent
it
out
for
if,
if
I
have
a
vacancy,
but
as
far
as
parking
parking
is
not
an
issue,
I
have
other
ways
to
put
parking
in
as
far
as
even
pouring
another
pad
on
my
property.
So
I
really
don't
think
that
what
they're
talking
about
is
affecting
the
neighborhood
at
all.
As
far
as
what
I'm
doing
there,
okay.
L
Salt
and
speaking
in
favor
of
this
project,
it
seems
like
our
number
one
issue
with
ad
use
has
been
addressed
in
this
project,
which
is
on
street
parking.
The
applicant
provided
an
off
street
space
as
a
compromise
to
the
Community
Council
and,
as
always,
with
these
I,
just
like
to
present
my
alternative
transportation
plan
for
this
property.
L
The
property
is
a
five-minute
walk
from
a
bus,
stop
that
is
serviced,
30
minutes
on
peak
and
hour
off-peak.
The
property
is
a
five.
Actually,
it's
a
10-minute
bike
ride
to
the
you,
so
that
would
be
convenient
for
someone
who
worked
at
you
and
I.
Don't
really
need
to
go
into
the
benefits
of
a
to
use.
I'm
sure
you
guys
are
all
aware
of
the
increase
in
housing.
Supply
aligns
with
the
city
goals,
to
increase
density,
increase
housing
supply
and
address
the
upcoming,
affordable
housing
crisis
in
the
city,
and
that's
it
thanks.
Thank.
A
F
A
F
F
E
A
G
C
On
the
information
in
the
staff
report,
the
information
presented
and
the
input
received
during
the
public
hearing
I
move
that
the
Planning
Commission
approved,
petition
PLN
PCM
2020
a
zero
zero
zero
one.
Two
with
the
following
conditions:
the
applicant
shall
comply
with
the
registration
process
outlined
in
section
21.
A
point:
four
zero
point:
two:
zero
zero
point:
F
of
the
Salt
Lake
City
zoning
ordinance
a.
E
Yeah
I
think
it
is
sort
of
not
in
our
wheelhouse
to
be
the
enforcers
on
the
ad
you
the
question
of
how
many
people
and
what
kind
of
people
are
living
here.
That
is
an
enforcement
issue
that
belongs
with
the
building
department.
Is
that
correct
and
and
I
would
urge
the
neighbourhood
actually
to
be
a
little
village
vigilant,
because
that
is
how
enforcement
actually
kind
of
works.
G
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate
that
comment.
So
when
I
did
the
community
council
I
remember,
it
took
me
probably
years
to
figure
that
out,
because
nobody
ever
relayed
that
information
to
us
in
that
a
conditional
use
state
law
requires
that
we
approve
it.
Our
role
here
is
to
identify
negative
impacts
and
then
mitigate
them.
So
the
negative
impact
you
identified
was
parking.
It
seems
to
be
mitigated
by
putting
it
off-site
and
then
we're
required
to
do
it.
So
all
those
other
comments,
while
very
appropriate
and
understandable,
fall
way
outside
of
our
purview.
G
So
when
we
look
at
conditional
uses
we're
really
looking
at
how
is
this?
Is
there
something
about
this?
A
to
you
that
has
a
detrimental
impact
and
how
do
I
positively
mitigate
that,
because
I'm,
basically
forced
by
state
law
to
push
it
through
and
I
just
want
to
relay
that
to
the
community
council
member
so
that
it
becomes
part
of
your
education
as
not
only
a
tea
use
move
forward,
but
other
conditional
uses
come
before
you
in
the
future,
so
you
understand
kind
of
how
we're
hampered
and
and
what
our
role
is
in
that
process.
M
C
A
N
Good
evening,
as
you
noted,
the
application
numbers,
this
is
a
zoning
map
amendment
and
a
master
plan
request,
and
this
would
be
a
change
from
the
m1
light
industrial
zone
to
the
MU
mixed
use
zone
on
two
parcels
located
771
775,
North
I
have
a
map
up.
That
shows
those
parcels.
The
more
northern
parcel
is
0.8
acres
in
size
or
about
36,000
square
feet.
It
has
existing
office
buildings
and
development
on
it.
The
smaller
parcel
is
point
for
two
acres
or
18,000
square
feet.
N
N
N
N
So
it's
not
discreetly
in
any
it's
more
or
less
described
as
kind
of
the
industrial
areas
of
Capitol,
Hill
and
so
again
in
the
master
plan.
There's
some
contradictions:
there's
a
discussion
of
transition
of
some
of
those
industrial
areas
into
more
commercial
and
mixed
use
areas,
but
the
zoning
map
I
mean
sorry.
The
future
land
use
map
doesn't
reflect
those
changes.
N
The
change
can
be
supported
by
both
city
and
neighborhood
master
plans.
And
again
we
also
looked
at
that
zoning
and
compatibility
with
adjacent
properties.
One
of
the
concerns
again
would
be
again
how
does
usually
in
a
rezone
you're
looking
at
how
does
a
change
impact
the
neighbors
in
some
ways
we're
looking
at
okay?
How
do
those
surrounding
uses
potentially
impact
new
development
on
this
property?
N
And
we
looked
also
at
what
other
alternative
zoning
districts?
We
could
CGT
general
commercial.
But
again,
though,
sir,
aimed
though
the
design
standards
are
a
more
at
commercial
uses,
not
so
much
creating
an
attractive
residential
setting,
so
we
are
recommending
that
the
Planning
Commission
forward
a
positive
recommendation
to
City
Council
for
both
the
zoning
map
and
master
plan
amendments.
G
G
So
the
fact
that
it
doesn't
there
seems
to
be
some
in
congruence
with
the
future
land
use
map
doesn't
really
bother
me,
but
when
the
current
zoning
that's
on
here,
there's
seems
to
be
these
really
strange:
little
pockets
of
an
RMF
35
block
away
and
the
CG
you
know,
half
a
walk
away
on
the
corner
is
I.
Guess
I,
just
wonder
like?
Are
we
continue?
I?
G
Don't
want
to
continue
this
weird
pattern
where
we
get
these
funky
little
pockets
of
what
then
end
up
feeling
to
be
misplaced,
but
reasons
for
some
very
specific
thing,
and
then
then
it
just
becomes
something
that
we
continue
to
like.
Oh,
this
is
where
it
is.
This
is
going
to
be
on
the
future
land
use
map
again
and
we're
not
we're
still
not
expressing
a
vision
of
how
we
want
this
area
to
be,
or
the
community
isn't
expressing
that
so
I
guess.
G
F
Yeah
I
think
that's
correct,
and
also
one
of
the
things
that
happened
is
it
happen
for
decades
in
Salt
Lake?
Is
that
we've?
Just
like
you
mentioned?
We've
we've
planned
and
zoned
to
match
the
existing
conditions
and
we
never
really
had
a
what's
in
the
future.
About
ten
years
ago
we
started
redoing
our
plants,
as
we
had
resources
resources
to
do
them.
F
The
Capitol
Hill
plan
is
one
of
our
I
think
it's
third
oldest
plan
now,
third
or
fourth,
but
we
did
make
a
major
update
to
it,
south
of
this
property
along
the
400
West
corridor
in
2011,
but
but
yeah
you're
you're
right
in
that,
unfortunately,
we're
dealt
the
the
hand
we've
been
dealt
for
decades
and
we're
trying
to
systematically
actually
have
not
just
mat.
Our
master
plans
reflect
future
growth
needs
for
the
city,
particularly
when
it
comes
to
housing,
but
also
have
our
zoning
support
that,
and
we
don't
really
have
that.
F
One
of
the
things
that
we're
starting
to
seriously
look
at
as
a
city
is
these.
These
m1
zones
that
are
closer
to
town
really
need
to
transition
to
something
else,
there's
no
need
for
having
industrial
uses.
This
close
to
our
downtown
anymore-
and
this
certainly
is
gonna-
be
one
of
those
areas
that
hopefully,
over
the
next
few
years,
we
we
look
at
more
comprehensively.
E
F
They
they
can't,
they
can't
be
a
brewery
only
they
can.
They
can
brew
it
as
part
of
a
brewery
in
some
of
the
zones
to
the
south.
You
can
do
breweries
in
addition
to,
and
so
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
we
would
look
at.
What
are
those
compatible
uses?
You
know.
One
of
the
concerns
that
we
have
with
breweries
is
the
sheer
amount
of
water
they
use.
You
know,
and
so
how
much
of
that
do
we
really
want
to
be
happening
if
we
only
have
X
amount
of
water?
E
O
N
N
N
N
O
Well,
just
you
know,
quick
introduction
to
us,
so
we've
been
a
member
of
this
community
for
quite
some
time.
We've
been
community
members
here
in
Utah
for
100
and
well
since
19
or
18
92,
so
we
kind
of
find
ourselves
here
in
this
community.
This
is
our
home
away
from
home.
This
I'm
here
from
6
a.m.
till
almost
10
p.m.
on
occasion,
so
we
very
much
support
this
community.
We
look
at
this
change
is
something
that
brings
more
beauty
to
what
we
would
like
to
do
in
that
area.
O
O
The
master
plan
does
have
some
very
unique
language
for
this
specific
area
that
that
we
thought
we'd
kind
of
bring
to
the
benefit
of
this
discussion
specifically
and
I'm.
Sorry,
if
we
can't
read
that
so
we're
talking
about
this,
this
area
here
at
North
temple
an
area
located
between
North,
Temple
and
900
North,
which
we
lie
within
400
West
and
550
West,
specifically
the
the
future
of
this
area.
You
know
it
talks
about
this.
Once
was
a
railroad
property.
It
became,
and
it
says,
becomes
available
for
redevelopment.
O
Adjacent
properties
with
existing
industrial
land
uses,
should
transition
to
less
intensive
uses,
which
would
be
what
we
would
certainly
propose.
It
continues
saying
the
rail
yard
would
provide
an
easy
opportunity
for
redevelopment.
This
area,
along
with
existing
structures,
is
seen
as
mixed-use
sorry
as
a
mixed-use
area
in
the
future,
combining
mid-sized
structures
containing
residential
and
commercial
office
uses.
O
A
You
any
questions
for
the
applicant
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much
move
on
to
the
public
hearing.
This
is
a
zoning
map
amendment
and
a
master
plan
amendment.
The
City
Council
is
the
final
decision-making
body
for
this
item,
but
we
make
a
recommendation
to
the
City
Council.
So
is
there
anybody
here
who
would
like
to
speak
on
this
item?
C
J
Hello
again,
Ian
Kaplan,
now
representing
myself
through
advert
you
and
not
Liv
modal
I
am
an
architect
and
I
run
a
small,
real
estate,
development
practice
and
I.
Think
neighborhoods
like
this
need
particular
care
when
thinking
about
rezoning,
and
particularly
the
future
of
the
neighbourhood
similar
to
granary
district
right,
we
saw
that
as
a
formerly
industrial
area.
Now
it's
got
all
this
momentum
to
become
a
really
thriving
urban
environment
for
those
that
live
in
there
and
those
will
be
moving
to
there.
J
So
when
you
guys
are
considering
the
rezone
on
this
I
think
that
a
mixed-use
zoning
is
actually
really
appropriate
as
a
transition
zone
between
the
heavy
industrial
areas
and
the
kind
of
heavier
residential
areas
that
exist
there
and
unfortunately,
as
developers
the
only
tool
that
we
really
have
to
accomplish
our
place
making.
You
know
it's
just,
in
my
opinion,
our
kind
of
moral
responsibility
and
the
work
that
we
do.
J
So
in
the
interim
between
when
the
city
addresses
the
larger
issue
versus
where
we
are
now
I,
think
the
smaller
kind
of
one-off
parcels,
of
the
reasons
are
helping
to
start
to
create
momentum
in
those
neighborhoods
and
certainly
prove
concepts
of
what
these
neighborhoods
could
be
for
residents
currently
and
in
the
future.
In
short,
I
support
this
rezone.
Thank
you
guys.
Thank.
A
A
L
That,
in
support
of
this
proposal,
we
don't
have
a
proposed
development.
Yet
so
I
can't
complain
about
the
parking
spaces
yet,
but
I
will,
as
always,
present
my
alternate
transit
proposal
for
this
site.
It's
about
a
five-minute
walk
from
I'm,
sorry
I'm
new
here
route
89,
which
provides
frequent
bus
service,
approximately
every
20
minutes,
north
and
south
I,
just
looked
up.
Google
Transit
directions
right
now
would
take
20
minutes
for
us
to
get
from
here
to
that
site
with
frequencies
every
20
minutes.
It's
also
a
20-minute
bike.
L
Ride
from
this
site
to
downtown
I
also
think
that
this
area
in
particular
would
benefit
from
mixed-use
zoning
because
in
general
what
we've
been
seeing
farther
south
along
4th
west
is
kind
of
some
gentrification
resulting
from
the
new
developments
there
with
high
rents
and
kind
of
prohibited,
prohibitive
costs
and
I
think
that
this
being
farther
north,
unfortunately,
because
it's
close
to
more
industrial
uses,
could
lead
to
some
more
affordable
housing,
then
farther
south
and
still
benefit
from
the
proximity
of
transit
and
biking
infrastructure,
I
sports
project.
That's
it
Thanks!
Thank.
A
J
Like
motion
great
based
on
the
findings
and
analysis
in
the
staff
report,
testimony
discussion
and
the
public
hearing
and
move
the
Planning
Commission
recommended
the
City
Council
approved
the
proposed
zoning
map.
Amendment
file
PLN
PCM
2019,
zero,
one
zero
one
one
if
the
property
is
located
at
771
and
795
north
forward
west
respectively
proposed
zone
change
from
n1
light
industrial
district
to
MU,
mixed-use
zoning
district
and
corresponding
master
plan.
A
E
A
L
A
L
A
C
P
The
Maplewood
addition
subdivision
was
created
in
1911,
but
it
was
never
developed.
The
subdivision
was
likely
platted
for
residential
uses
and
the
streets
were
to
connect
with
the
eastern
portions
of
the
city.
However,
this
part
of
the
city
developed
as
industrial
and
this
black
became
ineffective
and
actually
in
inadequate
for
the
area
residential
uses
are
not
permitted
in
the
em1
district
and
the
plaited
streets
are
too
close
together
to
accommodate
the
larger
Lots
that
industrial
and
heavy
commercial
developments
typically
require.
P
The
blocks
within
the
plat
have
also
been
split
up
by
the
construction
of
I-80,
causing
a
disconnection
even
within
the
streets
of
the
subdivision,
so
the
on
the
screen.
There,
you
see
the
original
plat.
How
was,
and
then
the
plat
today
that
blank
area
in
the
middle
is
I-80
and
the
staff
report.
Great
consideration,
was
giving
to
the
city
master
plans,
both
the
north
northwest
quadrant
master
plan
and
the
plan.
Salt
Lake
have
goals
to
direct
development
to
made
transportation
corridors
where
infrastructure
is
existing.
P
The
northwest,
quadrant
master
plan
recommends
complementing
access
from
IAT
but
suggest
that
new
streets
be
constructed
as
development
occurs.
Plan
salt
lake
recommends
prioritizing
the
maintenance
of
existing
transportation
infrastructure
over
building
new,
while
supporting
the
growth
of
industrial
areas
in
the
city
along
the
same
lines.
P
E
E
E
P
E
Q
E
E
F
A
D
I'm
with
the
state
of
Utah
School
in
institutional
trust,
lands
Scylla
the
regards
to
the
plat
map.
This
is
obviously
an
older
plat
map
that
was
labeled
as
a
suburban
land
reserve,
I'm,
not
sure
if
that
was
part
of
the
county's
records
or
our
labeling
correctly,
the
entire
property
that
you
see
in
yellow
and
compasses
770
acres
of
the
Old
North
Temple
landfill.
D
That
property
has
a
lot
of
existing
constraints
on
the
property
as
I'm
sure
the
Commission's
probably
aware
this
Maplewood
subdivision
is
just
one
of
those
there's
some
existing
power
line
right
away
as
their
existing
Brighton,
Canal,
etc.
As
part
of
our
work
to
start
cleaning
up
and
remediating
that
landfill
our
goal
is
to
remove
some
of
these
constraints
so
that
we
can
then
prepare
a
development
plan
to
eventually
bring
back
to
the
Planning
Commission
and
present
that
to
the
Planning
Commission
as
part
of
a
remediation
of
the
landfill.
So
this
is
really
one
step.
D
But
to
answer
commissioner
sheers
specific
question:
the
entire
770
acres
is
what
is
owned
by
Silla
and
encompasses
everything
around
the
Maplewood
subdivision,
which
you
can
see
in
the
lower
right
hand
corner
up
on
the
screen
there,
where
the
old
street
lines
are
as
part
of
our
development
we
would
being
dedicated
and
putting
in
new
streets,
new
new
utility
lines,
etc
as
a
development
progresses.
Just.
P
P
D
To
be
aware
of,
if
you're
not
aware
of,
is
that
the
Mountain
View
corridor
will
be
coming
north
and
interchange
and
developing
a
new
interchange,
IAT,
and
that
is
happening
between
7,200
west
there,
which
you
can
see
in
the
lower
half
the
edge
and
5600
West,
which
is
just
off
the
screen
to
the
right.
Where
that
interchange
is,
there
will
be
a
new
bubble,
as
they
do
the
free
or
the
the
flyovers,
and
that
bubble
actually
hits
of
right
about
where
the
subdivision
is
as
well
so
we're
teeing
and
having
discussions
with
you
dot
about.
A
No,
thank
you
all
right.
We
will
now
move
to
the
public
hearing
for
this
item
and
again
this
is
an
item
that
will
be
decided
by
the
City
Council.
We
are
here
to
get
public
input
and
make
a
recommendation
to
the
City
Council
and
inform
their
decision.
So
I'll
go
ahead
and
open
the
public
hearing.
Who
is
there?
Anyone
is
there
any
community
council
in
this
area?
Probably
not
there
they're,
not
here.
Okay
can
I
see
a
show
of
hands
of
who
would
like
to
speak.
B
I'm
Dee,
de-seed
and
I'm
here,
representing
the
stop
the
polluting
port
coalition,
we're
very
concerned
about
the
development
of
this
property.
That's
owned
by
Silla.
We've
had
very
little
information
about
what
they
intend
to
do
and
I
think.
What
we'd
like
to
ask
you
tonight
to
do
is
to
ask
for
a
plan
from
them
before
you
proceed
to
approve
the
street
closure,
because
what
happens
on
this
property
has
serious
implications
for
the
health
of
the
adjacent
neighborhoods.
There's
been
discussion
of
turning
it
into
a
second
intermodal
rail
facility
of
quite
a
large
size.
B
You
know
what
is
the
ultimate
plan
and
and
then
make
a
decision
about
doing
this,
which
will
enable
them
to
move
forward
with
development,
but
we
we
really
want
to
know
what
they're
intending
to
develop
and
we
think
that
our
community
deserves
those
answers.
First,
before
development
proceeds.
Thank.
A
R
Hi,
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
speak.
My
name
is
dr.
Courtney,
Henley
and
I
am
here
representing
myself
and
my
community,
which
is
the
Avenues
community,
not
as
a
Community
Council,
remember
anything
but
as
the
resident
and
the
Utah
physicians
for
a
healthy
environment
and
I
am
asking
you
to
not
to
approve
this
request
from
sila.
The
lands
do
lie
in
the
area
designated
by
the
legislature
for
a
future.
R
Inland
port
spent
the
past
six
weeks
up
at
the
legislature
talking
to
people
about
the
plans,
and
there
is
no
plan
other
than
this
was
a
plan
in
1970
was
the
most
compelling
reason.
I
heard
from
a
legislature,
representative,
Stan
quests
and
does
I
just
I.
Have
a
kunai
ask
the
gentleman
from
Silla
a
question.
A
R
I
hope
the
answers
yes,
in
which
case
approving
this
small
step
towards
a
huge
air,
polluting
point-source
near
so
many
schools
and
students,
I
think,
is
a
little
bit.
Short-Sighted.
I
also
hope,
once
it
gets
to
this
I've
spoken
with
Chris
Wharton,
my
community
account
where
my
City
Council
representative
about
this
at
length.
I
hope
that
the
City
Council
is
going
to
vote
this
down
since
we're
in
litigation
about
the
plans
for
these
lands.
R
R
A
C
We
already
have
two
bad
entrances
on
the
south
end
the
gravel
pits
on
either
side
of
the
cities.
Do
we
have
to
ruin
the
view
that
people
have
coming
in
from
the
West,
so
I,
don't
like
the
idea,
I'm.
Also,
of
course,
the
post
of
the
inland
port,
as
you
might
expect,
I,
don't
think
it's
a
good
idea
with
the
economic
downturn
that
we
are
facing,
I,
don't
think
much
is
going
to
be
happening
out
there
and
I
I
do
think
mainly
that
this
needs
an
environmental
statement,
a
proper
statement
study
further
time
on
it.
L
L
I
mean
I,
didn't
even
know
about
all
these
inland
port
issues
associated
with
this
application
before
it
came
before
you
guys,
but
I'm
assuming
this
isn't
the
hill
to
die
on
for
for
the
app
the
opposition
of
the
inland
port
and
frankly,
if
it
was
my
land
and
there
were
streets
from
what
I
think
the
early
nineteen
hundreds,
late,
1800s
and
I
couldn't
develop
because
it
was
denied
for
political
reasons.
I,
don't
think.
I
would
appreciate
that
and
I
guess.
Those
are
my
comments.
That's
it
Thanks.
A
D
Now,
mr.
Chariman,
madam
chairman,
our
our
focus
is
on
the
remediation
of
the
landfill.
Those
aren't
aware,
you
know,
the
770
acres
was
a
landfill
that
Salt
Lake
City
as
they
leased
the
property
and
operated
a
landfill
in
that
area
from
the
1950s
up
through
1979,
was
an
unregulated
landfill
and
is
actually
an
environmental
hazard,
and
so
Seth
was
working
with
DEQ
we've
completed
our
site
characterization
and
we
are
in
the
process
of
developing
a
remediation
plan.
D
The
landfill
has
a
lot.
It
was
basically
dug
in
trenches
and
then
so
they
went
out
there
and
they
dug
a
trench
until
they
hit
groundwater
garbage
in
and
covered
it
back
up
and
move
to
the
next
trench
and
I.
Don't
have
a
presentation
that
I
brought
with
me,
but
at
some
point
in
the
future,
I
could
certainly
go
through
the
history
of
the
landfill
etc.
Now
is
probably
not
the
appropriate
time
giving
this
request,
but
it
and
obviously
in
different
water
years
when
of
groundwater,
was
higher.
D
D
We
would
be
bringing
back
to
this
commission
into
the
city,
a
master
plan
for
the
area
and
subdivision
approvals,
and
all
that
would
go
through
your
assume,
your
standard
city
processes
for
public
hearings
and
allow
for
public
comments
as
as
mrs.
seed
and
others
have
come
and
on,
and
that
would
be
the
appropriate
time
to
comment
on
our
development
plans
right
now.
Honestly,
we
don't
have
those,
and
the
reason
being
as
I
mentioned
is
because
this
characterization
and
the
cleanup
could
change
those
plans
based
on
what
we
find
and
what
we
have
to
do.
D
So
that's
that
we're
working
through
that
process.
We
don't
we
don't
have
a
plan
as
of
yet
with
regards
to
the
power
poles
gentleman
mentioned
the
power
poles,
that's
actually
a
Rocky
Mountain
Power
project
in
order
to
bring
power
out
to
the
prison
site,
and
so
that's
that's
the
new.
We
did
issue
an
easement
on
the
lower
portion
of
our
property
to
be
able
for
a
Rocky
Mountain
Power
to
be
able
to
do
that.
But
that's
for
the
present
project.
D
E
D
Say
we
share
a
common
vision
of
the
city
with
the
city
for
this
property.
We
were
involved
with
all
the
original
master
planning
of
the
northwest
quadrant
before
the
inland
port
bill
even
came
up,
and
we
attended
all
those
public
hearings
of
stakeholders
on
with
the
other
main
property
owners
and
worked
with
the
consultants
that
the
city
had
at
the
time
to
develop
a
vision
for
this
quadrant,
and
any
conceptual
planning
we
have
done
to
date
was
in
line
with
that
vision,
and
we
are
still
working
towards
that
vision.
D
As
far
as
with
this
with
the
students
of
Utah,
that's
an
obvious
yes
or
my
entire
job
is
to
support
the
students
of
Utah.
Silla
works
very
hard
to
do
that,
but
our
requirement
is
to
manage
the
3.3
million
acres.
We
have
across
the
state
as
a
fiduciary
responsibility
for
the
students
to
provide
income
for
the
schools
and
to
help
the
schools.
This
project
is
one
of
those
projects.
We
have
projects
all
across
the
state
if
you're
asking.
If
we
do
go
about
environmentally
contaminating
at
our
sites,
we
don't
one
of
the
other
big
projects.
D
D
C
J
Only
question
for
staff
and
maybe
help
clarify
state
when
the
state
owns
the
land,
and
still
it
may
be
a
little
bit
different.
But
when
a
state
was
later,
you
don't
own
the
land
that
not
all
of
ours
owning
it
does
or
does
not
apply.
How
does
that
whole
thing
work
when
it's
actually
owned
by
the
state?
It.
F
F
E
E
A
P
F
C
Opinion
would
be
that
our
job
is
planning,
and
so,
from
my
perspective,
taking
these
paper
streets
off
is
okay.
If
the
City
Council,
who
does
represent
these
people
in
a
way
that
we
do
not,
they
are
the
elected
officials.
If
they
want
to
hold
it,
that's
really
on
them,
but
I,
don't
think
that's
something
we
should
mess
with
I.
C
J
C
H
M
A
M
A
And
again,
city
council
has
the
final
approval
of
that
item.
So
there
will
be
another
public
hearing
before
the
City
Council.
Okay
item
number
for
Design
Review,
Gilmore
Hall,
building
edition
at
Westminster
College
at
approximately
12:30
East
1700
south
case
number,
PLN
PCM
2020:
zero,
zero,
zero,
zero,
nine,
okay.
N
As
you
noted,
this
was
a
design
review
application
for
a
building
addition
to
an
existing
building
at
Westminster
College.
The
proposed
addition
is
called
Gilmore
Hall.
It's
on
the
interior
of
campus.
The
address
of
Westminster
College
is
12:30,
I'm,
sorry
1840,
South,
1300
East.
This
will
be
located
approximately
12:30
1700
South.
It's
a
little
bit
south
of.
C
N
South
and
again
I
mentioned
it
was
on
the
interior
of
campus.
The
buildings
about
40
is
45
feet,
tall
about
27,000
square
feet,
total
size,
nine
thousand
square
foot
footprint
buildings
over
35
feet
in
the
institutional
zoning
district
are
allowed
through
the
design
review
process,
which
is
why
the
application
is
before
you
today.
Here's
a
rendering
of
the
addition
to
the
building
it
faces
south
east
into
the
campus
and
the
map
orient
see
a
little
bit.
N
It's
a
triangular
piece
of
property
that
was
formerly
a
amphitheater
beside
the
Jewett
Center
for
Performing
Arts,
and
that's
the
proposed
location
from
the
building.
The
nearest
corner
is
about
200
feet
away
from
1700
south
again
campus
context,
photos
of
where
the
location
is
the
commissioners
who
were
on
the
field
trip
got
to
see
that
as
well.
We
looked
at
a
number
of
things:
the
neighborhood
compatibility
again
that
location
on
the
interior
of
campus,
where
it
there
are
structures
around
it
buildings
around
it
that
are
significantly
taller.
N
The
design
of
it
does
fit
some
of
the
architecture
and
the
applicant
and
talk
to
that
more
on
the
design
of
it
and
how
those
visual
cues
were
taken
from
other
buildings
on
campus
again
master
plan
compliance,
it
does
comply
with
the
master
plan
and
meets
the
design
review
standards
for
additional
height,
which
includes
includes
design
elements
aimed
at
the
human
scale,
making
it
fit
at
surroundings.
So
staff
is
recommending
that
the
Planning
Commission
approved
the
design
review
application.
G
A
N
Q
Q
We
expect
that
full
build-out,
a
hundred
and
eighty
students
sixty
in
each
one
of
those
programs
which
will
amount
to
about
ten
to
fifteen
percent
of
our
undergraduate
student
body.
So
this
new
building
adds
a
small
to
medium-sized
recital
hall.
With
about
a
hundred
and
twenty
a
hundred
seats,
it
adds
dance
floor
to
dance
studios,
which
can
then
be
combined
into
a
dance
performance
space,
as
well
as
practice
rooms
for
our
music
music
students
and
a
theater
rehearsal
space.
Q
All
of
these
are
instructional
facilities
that
will
allow
us
to
really
just
deliver
on
our
fundamental
mission,
which
is
undergraduate,
liberal
arts
education.
So
the
building
is
fully
funded
by
external
donations,
that
the
lead
gift
came
from
the
Gilmore
foundation,
the
Florence
Jay
Gilmore
foundation.
She
was
a
music
major
at
Westminster
College,
who
graduated
in
1936
and
left
foundation
that
is
has
as
one
of
its
primary
directives
supporting
the
music
at
Westminster
College.
So
that's
where
our
lead
gift
has
come
from,
but
there's
funding
from
many
different
Friends
of
the
college
and
the
community.
Q
We
I
was
counting
and
we
have
46
live
performing
arts
events
in
our
existing
facility
already
this
year,
and
this
will
expand
that
capacity
and
and
create
opportunities
for
residents
of
this
fast-growing
neighborhood
to
come,
see
plays
see,
opera
productions,
see
our
community
choir
sing
to
sing
in
our
community
choir
and
so
forth.
So
we're
hoping
that
this
will
really
add
to
our
already
existing
integration
into
the
neighborhood.
So
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
you.
Thank.
A
M
So
my
name
is
Derrick
Payne,
thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
present
this
project,
we're
excited
about
it
and
anybody
who
spent
time
on
the
Westminster
campus
I
think
understands
it's
unique
among
higher
education
institutions,
west
of
the
Mississippi.
It's
a
very
intimate
scale.
The
buildings
are
closely
spaced,
there's
really
nothing
like
it,
so
this
building
is
not
out
of
character
with
with
what's
been
developed
on
that
campus
to
date
and
when
Lance
needed
the
types
of
spaces
that
he
just
outlined
for
you.
There
really
was
that
triangle
left
as
an
addition
to
the
arts
complex.
M
It
wasn't
functioning
well
as
open
space.
It
was
too
steep
for
an
amphitheater,
and
so
we
were
able
to
get
as
Lance
said,
a
performance,
dance
studio,
a
recital
hall,
a
large
Lobby,
many
practice
rooms
and
the
lower
level
of
that.
So
it's
full
thing
fulfilling
a
lot
of
needs
that
the
theater,
dance
and
arts
needs
on
the
campus.
M
It's
in
addition
to
a
very
modern
building
on
their
campus,
but
it's
also
in
close
proximity
to
converse
Hall,
which
is
on
the
Historic
Register
and
Paine
gymnasium,
which
is
actually
just
south
of
it,
but
that
basic
idea
of
creating
that
music
box.
It
also
we
wanted
it
to
be
almost
like
an
instrument,
so
the
South,
the
East
face
of
that
wall
actually
is
articulated
because
that's
it's
based
on
the
acoustics
inside
the
hall,
and
so
it's
almost
like
an
instrument
reading
from
the
outside
and
the
inside.
M
M
So
every
space,
even
the
recital
hall,
has
pretty
significant
glass
and
transparency
out
to
that
that,
in
that
new
plaza
and
in
fact
the
new
entry
I'm
not
going
to
get
the
mouse,
but
the
new
entry
into
the
the
facility
is
actually
the
glazing
on
the
right,
and
so
that
was
a
primary
objective,
really
to
activate
that
Plaza
and
I.
Think.
G
G
It
was
there
so
I
personally
feel
like
because
we're
on
a
hill
45
feet
is
really
appropriate.
It
won't,
it
won't,
seem
higher
because
you're
going
down
and
it's
it's
enough
down-
that
it
won't
impede
anything
but
I'm
just
wondering
the
current
building
feels
like
you
know,
if
you're
on,
if
you're
on
that
little
road,
where
that
parking
lot
is,
it
is
like
a
one-story,
but
the
building
goes
down
further
and
it's
connected
then
to
the
parking
behind
it
on
the
west.
Is
this
going
to
be?
G
M
G
M
M
M
M
G
M
M
M
Do
so
so
we're
required
to
do
a
parking
counting,
so
they
they
do
an
overall
count
for
the
entire
campus
and
there's
a
shared
parking
count
that
occurs
and
so
based
on
time
of
day
you,
you
know,
there's
theater
performances
happen
at
night
and
so
that
weights
higher
than
students
during
the
day,
they're
still
under
the
total
parking
spaces
required
for
the
entire
campus
and
I.
Don't
remember
the
exact
number
Brenda,
but
we're
about
I
think
we're
about
eighty
stalls
over
the
requirement
for
this.
Let
the
city
have.
C
M
Wouldn't
say
it's
a
functional
element,
but
I
guess
it's
it's
a
borrowed
piece
of
architecture
from
from
the
arches
in
Converse,
Hall
and
and
several
other
historic
buildings.
So
it
was
an
attempt
to
take
an
element.
That's
used
in
other
parts
of
the
campus
and
and
sort
of
maybe
help
magnify
that
this
this
piece
of
architecture
I
think
they
do
want
it
to
be
iconic
at
the
same
time
as
fitting
into
a
fabric
of
architecture.
That
is,
it's
really
beautiful,
I'm
sure
I'm,
sure
you've
been
there
John,
but.
C
Yeah
yeah
no
I
I
mean
I
like
the
form
following
the
function.
The
idea
of
the
faceted
facade
kind
of
making
like
pushing
the
sound
back
in
those
types
of
elements.
It's
just
there's
parts
of
it
that
feel
like
it's
a
little
bit
floating
and
I
wonder
if
that
curve
is
kind
of
adding
to
that
feeling
and
I
just
was
curious
as
if
it
was
a
functional
element
versus
a
just,
an
aesthetic,
that's
tying
back
to
the
context
of
the
site,
but.
M
It
is
the
the
hall
is
getting
taller
and
volume
as
it
proceeds
back.
We've
tried
it
many
different
ways:
we
stepped
it.
We
put
a
straight
line
on
it.
It
seemed
it
seemed
a
little
bit
severe
when
we
had
a
straight
line
coming
up
and
although
that
matches
some
of
the
pediments
on
the
campus,
you
know
the
president
preferred
sort
of
a
curve.
Yeah.
M
C
M
E
E
M
So
the
plaza
extension
again
is
a
function
of
phasing
and
that's
planned
to
be
in
a
future
phase.
But
the
intention
is
I.
Think
of
I,
don't
know
if
I'm
giving
anything
away
Lance
or
Sheila,
but
the
desire
of
the
college
really
is
to
remove
all
of
that
parking
throughout
the
entire
middle
of
the
campus,
because
it's
it's
a
very
strong
pedestrian
Plaza
and
so
with
each
project
that
they've
sort
of
gone
out
and
marched
out
towards
17
south.
They
have
done
a
Plaza
upgrade
and
that's
the
intention
here.
A
L
Zach,
Dussault
speaking
the
project.
This
is
only
a
10
foot
variance
and
it's
a
interior.
The
block
I,
don't
think
it's
gonna
be
very
imposing
structure.
I
like
the
design
and
structure
and
I,
was
in
favor
of
before
that.
But
then
he
said
removing
parking
so
now
I'm,
really
in
favor
of
it
and
adding
pedestrian
infrastructure
yep.
That's
it
thanks.
Thank.