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From YouTube: Planning Commission Meeting - January 9, 2019
Description
Planning Commission
Salt Lake City
A
C
D
A
F
All
right,
so
this
is
a
request
by
marco
and
melinda
Geronimo,
the
property
owners
to
change
the
use
of
1330
South
700
West
from
residential
to
commercial.
Currently,
there's
a
single-family
dwelling
in
a
large
garage
on
the
property.
The
applicants
would
like
to
demolish
the
single-family
dwelling
to
accommodate
in
the
office
and
retail
building
and
to
repurpose
the
existing
accessory
structure
into
a
warehouse.
F
This
project
is
being
presented
to
the
Commission
because
it
requires
conditional
use
and
planned
development
approval.
The
conditioner
use
is
due
to
the
property
being
located
in
the
r-1
7000
zoning
district
and
the
transitional
overlay
district.
The
transitional
overlay
district,
some
commercial
uses,
are
allowed
through
the
conditional
use
process.
The
plan
development
is
required
in
order
to
preserve
and
convert
the
existing
garage
into
a
law,
allow
additional
signage
for
the
retail
uses.
F
The
project
consists
of
demolishing
the
existing
single-family,
like
I,
said
before,
and
replacing
it
replacing
it
with
a
new
two-story
building
that
will
accommodate
retail
on
the
first
floor
and
office.
On
the
second
floor,
the
existing,
where
he'll
the
existing
start
sturdy
building
converted
into
a
warehouse,
will
be
preserved,
as
is.
F
The
new
building
will
have
facades
that
combine
brick,
veneer
and
stucco
and
we'll
have
detailing
in
metal
and
wood.
The
main
entrance
to
the
building
will
be
centered
in
the
front,
facade
and
display
windows
be
located
on
each
side
of
the
main
entrance.
There
will
also
be
display
windows
on
the
side
facades.
The
elevation
on
the
top
is
the
front
and
rear
facade
and
the
one
on
the
bottom
is
the
side
elevation,
and
you
can
see
the
sign
over
the
display
windows.
F
F
The
staff
reports
lists
three
key
considerations
regarding
this
proposal.
The
first
is
the
neighborhood
compatibility,
the
properties
to
the
north
are
single-family,
the
properties
to
the
south
and
the
east
are
commercial.
The
proposed
development
proposes
direct
retail
on
the
retail
portion,
which
in
intensity
is
not
different
from
the
existing
commercial
there.
Right
now
in
terms
of
design,
the
applicants
are
proposing
materials
found
in
some
residents
in
the
area,
and
that
adds
some
interest
in
scale
to
this.
F
Building
the
square
box,
shape
of
the
building
and
the
two-story
height
also
follows
the
appearance
of
the
commercial
buildings
in
the
area
without
imposing
over
the
residential
structures.
The
cinder
block
building
was
built
at
least
30
years
ago
and
is
not
changing
visually,
so
the
the
two
pictures
above
are
the
single-family
dwellings
right
north
to
that
property,
and
then
the
picture
on
the
bottom
is
right
across
the
street.
F
The
second
key
consideration
is
the
impact
to
the
residential
uses
to
each
the
applicant
propose
to
address,
with
some
mitigation
strategies
to
address
the
visual
impacts.
The
applicants
proposed
a
new
building
that
relates
to
the
existing
structures
on
the
Block
in
terms
of
scale
massing,
shape
and
materials
and
acts
as
its
transition
between
the
larger
commercial
uses
and
the
single-family
dwellings.
The
parking
lot
was
proposed
behind
the
new
building
and
hidden
from
public
view
in
the
existing
cinder
block,
building
will
have
limited
visibility
from
the
public
street.
F
Regarding
the
noise
impact,
the
applicants
are
proposing
the
parking
stalls
closer
to
the
South
property
line
and
away
from
the
residential
properties
to
the
north.
The
driveway
in
the
required
landscaping
and
fence
will
also
provide
some
distance
between
the
commercial
building
and
the
residential
areas
in
terms
of
traffic.
The
new
users
will
only
operate
during
business
hours
when
traffic
is
already
significant
on
700,
west
and
also
on
13th
south.
F
The
third
consideration
was
the
consistency
with
adopted
master
plans.
The
future
land
use
map
of
the
West
Side
master
plan
designates
the
subject
property
as
700
West
industrial
areas.
The
master
plan
of
knowledge
is
that
some
conflict
between
uses
may
occur
and
focuses
on
the
goal
providing
appropriate
land-use
buffers
and
urban
design
features
to
soften
the
transition
between
the
industrial
districts
and
adjacent
neighborhoods.
B
I
have
a
question
and
it
may
be.
Wayne
is
the
one
who's
going
to
answer
this
so
I'm
a
little
confused,
because
last
year
we
had
a
project
that
was
not
demolishing
a
single-family
home,
but
turning
it
from
a
residential
to
in
office
and
part
of
that
report,
and
maybe
so
I
thought
it
was
planned.
Salt
Lake,
but
it
could
be.
Something
else
was
requiring
that
if
they
take
housing
they
have
to
replace
it,
and
that
was
a
big
part
of
that
particular
proposal.
B
E
That's
in
housing
mitigation
ordinance-
if
it's
actually
I
mean
we
have
very
little
zoning
districts
that
where
housing
like
single-family
homes
is
a
not
and
allowed
use,
but
the
industrial
area
is
one
of
those,
and
so
because
this
is
identified
in
the
master
plan
as
transitioning
to
light
industrial,
then
housing
mitigation
ordinance
doesn't
come
into
play.
Okay,.
B
F
E
E
G
Marko
Geronimo
my
wife,
Melinda
Geronimo
over
here
and
I,
don't
know
if
I'm
gonna
take
all
10
minutes,
but
just
to
let
you
know
the
it's
on
a
personal
background.
This
is
a
project
that
my
wife
and
I
embarked
just
because
we
wanted
to
have
something
for
our
kids
for
the
family,
something
that's
long
term,
so
we're
vested
in
this
project
and
in
the
community,
but
also
because
we
figure
that
it'll
be
a
good
project,
also
to
improve
the
community
outlook
and
and
bring
the
Industrial
and
our
neighbors
together.
G
A
A
G
A
A
G
Hi,
my
name
is
Kate
Whedon
and
I
own
the
property
directly
north
the
corner
lot
right
there,
it's
a
half
acre
a
lot
I
think
that
the
structure
will
be
nice.
It'll,
be
a
great
improvement
to
that
area.
I
first,
when
I
saw
it
and
I
looked
at
the
plans.
Online
I
was
like
I,
don't
know,
I
mean
the
traffic,
but
you
know,
but
you
know,
was
within
like
normal
business
hours
and
things
like
that
I
do
think
it
will
help
improve
and
I.
Think
it'll,
be
nice
I
think.
G
Just
to
you
know,
sort
of
get
that
privacy
that
we
have
had
in
the
past.
But
as
far
as
the
structure
itself,
I
think
it'll
be
nice
because,
as
you
saw,
the
photo
I
mean
the
house
is
old,
I
mean
I,
love
old
houses.
You
know
an
old
architecture,
it's
sad
to
see
something
like
that
torn
down,
but
with
that
area
and
the
way
it
is
I
think
that
will
improve
it
because,
right
now
it's
sort
of
cinder
blocks
with
like
weeds
out
in
front
and
they,
you
know,
hasn't
really
been
kept
up.
G
A
F
So
the
height
of
this
building
is
23
feet
in
an
r1
7,000.
It's
allowed.
A
single-family
dwelling
is
allowed
to
go
that
tall,
but
in
regards
to
the
additional
buffering,
they
are
required
to
have
a
buffer
along
the
property
line
with
a
fancying,
a
solid
fence,
six
foot
tall,
and
there
are
requirements
for
bushes
and
trees.
At
a
certain
spacing
30
feet.
F
B
F
C
F
C
E
It's
not
a
just
to
put
a
little
context.
There's
there's
three
areas
in
the
city
that
the
transitional
overlay
is
located
and
they're
each
one
of
them
only
contains
a
couple
of
parcels.
So
you
don't
see
this
very
often
it's
a
kind
of
a
strange
overlay
zone
that
we
don't
actually
even
deal
with
very
often
I
mean.
E
Won't
even
maybe
see
anything
beyond
this
just
but
there's
this
particular
area
there's
one
over
in
between
eight
and
nine
south,
just
on
200
East
and
then
one
way
west
out,
5600
West
at
like
14
South.
So
it's
one
of
these
interesting
transitional
zones
that
was
set
up
thinking
that
okay,
we
have
an
existing
residential
area.
At
some
point,
the
master
plan
says
it's
going
to
transition
to
something
else,
but
we're
not
quite
ready
to
do
that
full
rezone
yet
and
make
all
those
single
family
homes
non-conforming.
E
A
D
I'll
go
ahead
and
a
commotion
regarding
petition,
PLN
PCM
2018,
a
zero
zero
one.
Five,
eight
and
PLN
su
b,
2018
zero
zero.
Two
four
zero
based
on
the
information
listed
in
the
staff
report
and
information
presented
and
the
input
received
during
the
public
hearing
I
move
that
the
planning
the
Planning
Commission
approve
the
request
for
conditional
use
and
plan
development
for
the
redevelopment
property
at
1330,
South
700
West,
as
presented
in
petitions,
as
just
as
before,
with
the
conditions
listed
in
the
staff
report.
Oh
I'll,
second,
that
a.
E
A
B
D
I
Thank
you.
This
next
item
also
includes
a
planned
development
aspect
to
it
up
on
the
screen.
You
can
see
the
site
it's
on
a
corner
site
on
1700
South
and
major
Street,
which
is
between
State
Street
and
Main
Street.
The
address
is
48
East
1700
south.
Currently,
the
project,
the
property
has
an
existing
single-family
dwelling
on
it.
As
you
can
see
in
this
picture,
this
proposal
is
a
redevelopment
proposal
to
demolish
that
home
and
replace
it
with
a
four
unit
residential
condominium
building.
That
would
be
three
stories
tall.
I
I
I
I
I
So
that's
the
reason
they're
just
before
you
tonight,
staff
has
looked
at
this
and
because
major
street
is
a
dead-end
street
for
this
portion.
Here
it
doesn't
seem
to
get
a
lot
of
traffic,
so
that
creates
less
conflict
between
vehicles
and
pedestrians
and
and
other
vehicles.
So
staff
is
comfortable
with
the
proposal
of
two
driveways.
I
Also,
the
overall
purpose
of
the
project
is,
you
know,
falls
in
line
with
the
master
plan
for
this
area,
which
is
a
Central
Community
master
plan,
anticipating
this
to
be
a
an
area
where
we'd
like
to
see
a
little
more
residential
opportunity,
different
types
of
housing,
so
this
transitions
from
a
single-family
style
to
a
multifamily
style,
offering
a
slightly
different
price
point.
So
it
supports
the
master
plan
in
that
regard.
I
I
There
is
a
standard
in
the
plan,
development
standards
that
speaks
to
pedestrian
engagement
and
architectural
features
along
public
public
ways.
In
this
particular
case,
the
design
meets
the
the
basic
zoning
standards
for
the
CC
zoning
district
as
far
as
percentage
of
glass
and
spacing
of,
or
excuse
me
the
length
of
a
blank
wall
without
some
sort
of
window
or
door
or
feature
to
it.
I
So
it
meets
those
basic
standards,
but
the
plan
development
is
looking
for
a
little
bit
more
as
far
as
in
pedestrian
engagement,
and
we
feel
staff
feels
that
this
particular
facade
is
lacking
for
that
along
17-under
south,
which
is
a
transit
corridor.
There'll
be
some
changes
to
that
Street
as
well
to
install
a
bike
lane
so
it'll
be
some
more
pedestrians
because
of
that.
I
I
They
can
either
do
two
specific
things
that
we
name,
which
is
put
a
move
or
create
that
those
three
glass
panes
on
the
right
side
of
that
facade
into
a
doorway
and
make
that
the
main
entrance
and
then
put
a
canopy
over
it
or
the
applicant,
could
opt
to
install
three
different
features
of
their
choosing
if
they
didn't
want
to
get
a
cific
as
staff
is
recommended.
So
those
are
the
issues
against
staff
has
reviewed
the
standard
feels
that
it
complies
with
those
and
supports
the
masterplan
recommends
approval
with
that
condition
that
I
mentioned.
H
Casey
did
a
good
job
of
explaining
the
project
needs
been
really
good
and
responsible
to
work
with
the
only
well
and
but
let
me
just
explain
quickly
the
inspiration
for
this
I
I'm,
not
sure
how
well
you
can
see
on
these
little
renderings,
but
the
idea
of
this
is
to
be
sort
of
evocative
of
a
stack
of
shipping
containers
without
being
like
overly
annoyingly
literal
about
it.
The
building
is
not
made
of
shipping
containers,
but
the
with
the
exception
of
the
dividers
between
the
patio,
which
are
gonna,
be
salvaged.
H
Shipping
container
doors,
the
exterior
materials
are
all
corrugated
metal.
There
is
no
stucco,
there's
no
cultured
stone.
These
are.
This
is
not
your
typical
uninspired
least
common
denominator,
townhouse
project
that
we've
all
seen
plenty
of,
unfortunately,
so
that
takes
me
around
to
the
request
for
changes
on
17th
south
and
a
couple
of
things
I
just
wanted
to
mention.
One
is
that
I
personally
think
that
the
aesthetics
of
this
project
are
very
intentional
and
I?
H
Think
they're
gonna
positively
affect
that
the
community,
especially
that
immediate
surround,
is
really
dramatically
and
the
the
frontage
facing
17
South
is
quite
narrow.
It's
only
34
feet,
so
it's
not
like.
We
have
an
immense
blank
wall
also
the
case
you
mentioned
that
we're
in
the
South
State
Street
corridor
overlay.
H
The
overlay
has
heightened
requirements
for
the
street
facing
facades
that
the
regular
CC
zone
does
not,
and
specifically
it's
a
40%
glazing
requirement
on
the
ground
level
for
non-residential
uses,
25%
glazing
on
the
ground
level
for
residential
uses,
so
we've
already
upped
our
game
and
complied
with
that.
The
specific
suggestions
that
staff
have
made
are
little
troubling
to
me.
One
is
you
know
three
architectural
elements:
does
that
mean
we
could
do
three
Corinthian
columns
and
we'd
be
okay?
Why
three?
Why
not?
Why
not?
H
Four
to
me
this
project
is
of
a
piece,
it's
very
intentional
and
I
don't
want
to
muck
with
it
particularly
I
really
hate
the
idea
of
putting
another
entry
door
on
it.
First
of
all,
there's
a
requirement
under
the
overlay
that
we
add
an
operable
door
on
any
Street
facing
facade.
So
we've
already
got
a
glass
door
there
on
the
left
going
into
the
garage
which
is
totally
stupid.
There's
no
reason
for
that
other
than
the
zone
we're
complying
with
it,
but
it's
dumb.
H
The
other
thing
is
that
we're
not
gonna
move
the
entry
door
off
of
major
street,
because
the
whole
design
principle
behind
this
is
really
intense
symmetry.
So
if,
as
staff
suggested,
we
put
another
entry
door
where
the
three
divided
windows
are
on
the
northwest
corner,
that
means
we
will
have
an
entry
door
entering
into
another
entry
door,
which
is
just
dumb,
I,
I,
really
understand
and
sympathize
with
the
motivation
here,
but
I
think
the
the
suggestion
of
making
of
tweaking
the
facade
with
kind
of
a
generic
tool
out
of
the
typical
planner
tool.
H
A
J
D
A
A
K
K
It's
a
Shell
station
I'm
more
than
happy
to
see
this
go
in
because
that
house
has
been
a
real
eyesore
down
there
and
I
think
this
will
be
a
real
improvement
to
the
marked
the
area
as
far
as
the
windows
and
door
on
17th,
South
I,
don't
think
that's
a
real
good
idea
for
a
couple
reasons.
I
have
personally
pulled
two
stuck
cars
over
the
years.
K
I,
like
the
looks
of
the
thing
I
think
it's
going
to
be
good
as
far
as
these
cuts
driveway
cuts
on
major
majors,
not
all
that
busy
and
I
think
it'll,
be
okay
from
people
backing
out,
I,
don't
think!
There's
a
dog
crematorium
or
an
animal
crematorium,
the
two
doors
south
on
there
and
I
believe
it's
still
an
advertising
agency
across
the
street
on
7th
air
on
major
and
they
don't
get
a
lot
of
traffic.
K
B
K
K
A
A
E
E
E
I
mean
the
big
picture.
What
I'm
trying
to
get
at
is
from
a
put
from
a
pedestrian
standpoint.
What's
beyond
that,
the
34
feet
like?
Is
it
going
to
be
visually
interesting?
Is
there
gonna,
be
a
series
of
parking
lots
and
not
really
interesting
I
mean
the
zone
see.
Does
it
call
it
calls
for
stuff
to
kind
of
come
all
the
way
right.
E
J
I
J
J
J
I
L
I
J
I
Yeah,
because
it's
flat,
it
doesn't
have
I
mean
it
has
glass
on
there,
which
means
that
basic
standard,
but
once
you
get
into
a
planned
development,
it's
looking
for
a
little
bit
more
as
far
as
pests,
pedestrian
engagement
and
architectural
features.
We
feel,
like
the
proposal,
didn't
quite
meet
that.
J
Well,
I
I
happen
to
disagree
with
that,
not
because
I
don't
agree
that
the
this
side
is
kind
of
flat,
but
because
we
don't
see
things
as
straight
on,
like
that,
we
actually
see
something
when
we're
walking
down
the
street,
we
would
walk
from
I'm
sorry
west
to
east
here,
and
we
would
look
if
we
look
what
went
from
west
to
east,
we
would
see
the
entire
front
of
this
property
as
we
locked
and
crossed
the
street.
We
would
see
the
part
on
major
street.
That's
got
a
lot
of
detail
and
balconies
and
so
forth.
J
So
I
don't
think
you
would
perceive
this
project
as
being
very
blank
wall
at
all,
since
that
facade
is
much
longer
and
more
visible.
This
is
not
as
if
the
property
were
that
that
little
bit
of
frontage
was
the
only
thing
you
could
see
from
from
17th
south
you're
going
to
be
able
to
see
all
of
the
building.
So
I,
don't
think
you
really
have
and
I
don't
think
it's
enough
of
an
issue
here
to
compromise.
What
I
think
the
the
owner
is
saying
is
a
is
a
consistent
design
throughout
his
project.
J
E
E
H
If
I
were
gonna
channel,
my
architect
I
am
guessing.
He
is
saying
that
the
dimensions
of
the
horizontal
are
trying
to
echo
the
dimensions
of
the
vertical
on
the
street,
facing
facade
and
I
actually
think
as
I'm
spouting
right
now.
I
actually
think
there's
something
to
that.
I
mean
if
there
is
a
overwhelming
feeling
that
we've
under
glassed
the
sides
right
I'm
open
to
that.
But
given
how
much
glass
we
have
coming
into
the
living
space
on
the
west
I,
just
to
me,
it
doesn't
seem
like
it's
a
big
factor
but
I'm
open
to
suggestions.
H
E
H
E
Grew
is
Brenda
like
you're
walking,
you're,
not
gonna.
You
know
for
me,
although,
if
you
are
come
from
the
other
angle,
when
you
see
the
back
and
the
back
corner,
it
will
be
more
looking
like
you're
looking
at
the
back
of
the
building,
but
there's
just
a
question:
if
you
were,
if
you
guys
explored
that
or
not
we.
H
Hadn't
and
the
only
other
thing
I
was
gonna
say,
is
to
in
response
or
sort
of
echoing
a
question
you
asked
earlier.
Is
that
as
we're
looking
at
it
here,
we're
seeing
it
devoid
of
all
the
landscaping
and
you
know
I,
we
engaged
a
really
good
Landscape,
Architect
I,
think
what
he
has
proposed
for
the
17th.
South
frontage
is
really
nice.
It's
gonna
be
better
than
anything
within
a
half
mile
and
we
are
committed
to
doing
that.
We're
required
to
as
part
of
our
approval
so.
E
I
think
we've
working
in
your
favor
as
it's
a
relatively
short
distance,
unlike
a
lot
of
other
projects,
we
see
in
this
in
this
group
and
then
to
that
you've
got
a
lot
of
heavy
detailing
on
major
street
and
then
three
that
you've
got
landscaping
yep.
That
is
pretty
involved
and
feels
like
it's
something.
But
my
you
know
if
you
were
to
add
something
it
seems
like
I,
don't
see,
the
feature
thing
would
be:
I
don't
agree
with
that,
but
something
will
be
an
amenity
to
the
and
more
light
into
this
space.
C
A
C
And
this
is
different
because
it
does
have
it's
a
it's
a
public
street
and
not
a
and
not
a
private
road,
but
ultimately
it's
kind
of
the
same,
because
it's
something
turned
to
the
side
and
it's
facing
one
side
is
the
north
side
is
facing
a
street,
and
this
other
Street
is
facing
a
road
that,
even
though
it's
named
a
major
street
is
not
very
major,
and
so
it's
kind
of
the
same
thing.
So
I
guess
I'm
asking
for
help
to
talk
me
through
that.
So
that
I
know
I.
Think
brendan
is
why
it's
different?
J
And
and
I
if
this,
if
this
lot
were
had
were
in
an
internal
lot,
in
other
words,
if
there
were
housing
on
one
side
and
housing
on
the
other
side
and
the
facade,
the
main
facade
here
were
facing
another
house
so
that,
as
I
approached
this
building,
I
wouldn't
even
really
I
would
I
then,
and
then
there's
a
set
of
you
know,
facade,
facade,
facade,
that's
all
I,
see
I,
don't
see
the
backyard
and
Sun.
All
of
that.
So
here
you
see
the
whole
thing,
and
particularly
because
of
the
width
is.
J
J
J
Look
at
that
photo.
You
could
see
how
much
of
you
can
see
the
entire
length
of
that
property
from
across
the
street
and
from
down
the
street,
so
I
would
think
you
would
that.
That's
why
it's
different
I
would
I
would
completely
agree
if
this
were
enclosed
within
two
other
properties
that
the
front
needed
to
have
more
of
a
front,
and
we
have
demanded
that
in
most
cases,
these
slot
homes,
but.
J
B
So
I'm
gonna
say
that
I
have
serious
reservations
about
the
seventeen
on
our
south
side
and
the
east
side,
because
we
have,
during
my
last
I've,
been
on
for
nine
months,
try
to
be
very
consistent
about
how
we
look
at
these
things.
If
that
came
before
us
previously,
with
no
delineation
of
units.
On
that
east
side,
we
we've
had
issues
with
that.
This
is
a
1,700
South.
B
There's
I
right
now.
I
can't
support
this
because
I
don't
feel
like
this
does
anything
to
engage
1700
South
and
then
that
east
side,
I,
think,
is
just
really
a
bad
visual
representation
of,
and
especially
if
you
have
a
parking
lot
on
the
other
side,
it'll
be
very
visible.
That's
what
everybody
will
be
seeing
and
I
am
I'm
not
happy
with
how
this
is
presented,
especially
given
the
standards
that
we've
been
applying
to
plan
developments
of
this
nature,
but.
E
I
and
that's
why
I
try
to
figure
out
I
mean
I
agree
with
what
some
of
those
comments
are
saying,
but
the
veggie
house
will
come
down
relatively
soon
and
there
will
be
something
else
built
on
those
blocks.
I
mean
I
just
with
a
way
that
17
South
is
developing
and
what
I
think
people
are
trying
to
do
like
I?
E
B
J
D
Has
really
nice
landscaping,
I'm
I
other
than
redesigning
their
entire
facade?
I,
don't
know
what
we
would
impose
on
them
and
I
think
the
intent
here
is
is
to
have
the
presence
on
major
street
and
that's
that's
the
focus
of
the
building
and
then
are
we
gonna
say
we
have
to
compete
and
have
equal
and.
D
B
Certainly,
disagree
about
that
I
feel
like
the
subjectiveness
has
I'm.
Looking
at
how
we've
been
treating
these
in
the
last
10
months
and
trying
for
consistency,
I
don't
want
to
redesign
it
because
I
don't
think,
there's
anything
you
can
do
to
engage
it
the
way
it
is
now
I'm
not
willing
to
impose
anything
on
it
because
I
don't
think
it
meets
the
planned
development
at
all.
J
A
E
Man
sure
I'll
make
a
motion
go
for
it.
First
I
want
to
thank
Casey,
so
I
think,
and
maybe
he
says
it
or
not,
or
it's
intentional
or
not,
I
think
Casey
and
his
items
that
he's
trying
to
push
it
with
Paul
or
in
direct
response
to
this.
The
pressure
this
body
has
put
on
slot
projects
and
on
planners,
and
so
the
fact
that
he's
trying
to
push
for
that
and
simply
doesn't
have
to
hear
from
us.
I
am
super
appreciative.
I
do
find
this
project
to
be
unique
because
it
was
position
on
major
street.
E
That's
the
only
reason
why,
when
I
have
almost
always
fought
for
those
I'm
willing
to
and
it's
a
short
distance,
it's
30
feet,
I'm
willing
to
kind
of
overlook
it
here.
So
that's
the
only
but
I
do
really
really
appreciate
you
trying
to
maybe
you
didn't
intentionally
but
listening
to
what
we're
trying
to
do
with
these
salons.
So
thank
you.
So
with
that
said,
basically
information.
The
staff
report,
the
information
presented
in
the
input
received
during
the
public
hearing
I
moved
the
Commission
approved
the
Svensson
planned
development,
pln
STB
2018,
zero,
zero.
Eight
one.
D
C
A
D
J
A
C
M
M
Both
of
us
were
pretty
intimately
involved
in
the
creation
of
the
draft
Salt
Lake
City
Foothill
trail
system
plan
I,
like
to
we've,
got
probably
20,
plus
minutes
of
presentation
for
you,
but
I
would
like
to
encourage
any
of
you
two
to
stop
us
as
as
we
go
through
and
ask
any
questions.
I
I
pulled
a
number
of
pages
out
of
the
out
of
the
plan
document,
which
I
think
has
been
shared
with
all
of
you.
M
The
1992
Salt
Lake
City,
open
space
plan
specifically
recommended
the
creation
of
a
comprehensive
recreational
trail
system
plan
for
the
foothills
landform
area
above
Salt,
Lake
City,
and
obviously
that
did
not
happen
for
many
years
and
over
that
that
period
of
time,
the
foothills
were
experiencing.
Many
many
issues
related
to
a
lack
of
planning
for
one
thing,
the
the
foothills
and
by
which
I
mean
really
just
the
the
grassy
open
spaces
that
you
see
when
you
look
up
above
the
city
that
that
face
Salt,
Lake,
City
and
border
it
on
the
east
and
north.
M
They
are
owned
by
a
number
of
different
jurisdictional
landowners
that
includes
Salt
Lake
City
public
lands.
Our
group
Salt
Lake
City
Public
Utilities,
the
u.s.
Forest
Service
Utah
State
Parks,
and
this
is
the
place
Heritage
Park
and
the
University
of
Utah,
as
well
as
a
number
of
private
private
inholdings
and
those
ownerships
really
kind
of
create
a
bit
of
a
checkerboard.
M
Most
of
those
trails
are
following
trails
which,
by
which
I
mean
they
follow
ridge
lines
or
gully,
bottoms,
they're,
often
very
steep
and
usually
associated
with
erosion
issues,
especially
that
the
more
use
they
get
the
worse.
The
erosion
tends
to
become
those
those.
Those
types
of
social
trails
are
really
proliferating
in
the
foothills
and
the
mapping
that
we
did
for
this
plan
revealed
that
there
were
at
least
between
60
and
70
miles
of
unplanned
unsustainable
social
trails
in
the
foothills.
M
There
are
very
limited,
limited
access,
limited
trailheads,
so
so
there
are
quite
a
few
places
where
the
public
can
access
the
trail
system
above
the
city,
but
none
of
those
are
really
very
formalized
and
and
to
a
significant
degree.
You
need
to
really
know
where
you're
going
to
be
able
to
penetrate
deep
into
residential
neighborhoods-
and
you
know
know
where
to
park,
know
where
you
can
find
a
sneaky
trail
to
you
know
get
on
to
it.
M
There
is
a
lack
of
signage,
by
which
I
mean
there's
virtually
no
signage
anywhere
in
the
foothills
and
limited
user
experiences.
That
means
that
you
know
for
people
who
are
you
know
interested
in
going
for
you
know
a
peaceful
hike
and
getting
a
little
further
into
the
backcountry
or
people
who
are
looking
for.
You
know
a
certain
type
of
mountain
bike,
experience
or
what-have-you.
M
Those
experiences
are
pretty
limited
because
they
haven't
really
ever
been
intentionally
planned,
and
so,
whatever
trail
segment
you
get
on,
you
might
run
into
any
type
of
trail
user
and
to
a
significant
degree.
Many
of
the
trails
in
the
foothills
are
quite
steep
and
require
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
fitness
and
experience
and
then,
finally,
just
there's
a
there's,
a
lack
of
intentional
trail
system
design.
M
M
Regardless
all
those
things
aside,
the
foothills
are
still
a
tremendous
open
space
asset
and
I
think
they
are
one
of
the
most
special
things
about
Salt
Lake
City,
very,
very
important
to
many
people
who
live
here
and
to
people
who
decide
to
relocate
to
Salt,
Lake
City,
to
choose
to
live
or
work
here,
and
so
we
we
were
able
to
identify
some
internal
funding
back
in
2016
and
2017
and
begin
to
put
together
an
effort
to
create
this
plan.
I.
M
I
just
wanted
to
quickly
read
read
what
what
the
project
vision
was.
The
foothills
Natural
Area
will
provide
a
variety
of
recreational
trail,
experiences
for
all
ages
and
abilities,
while
managing
the
foothills
environmental
resources
for
future
generations,
and
under
that
vision
week
we
created
five
different
trail
system
goals.
M
We
wanted
to
have
a
trail
system
that
was
environmentally
sustainable.
A
trail
system
that
was
enjoyable
for
users,
trail
system
that
was
accessible
to
a
wide
variety
of
people
of
different
ages
and
skill
sets
a
trail
system
that
was
that
was
safe
and
also
a
trail
system
that
was
relatively
low,
maintenance
and
physically
sustainable
for
the
long
term.
M
The
majority
of
that
portion
of
the
plan
area
is
jointly
owned,
while
it's
owned
either
by
Salt
Lake,
City
public
lands
or
by
Salt
Lake,
City,
Public
Utilities,
and
then
there's
a
significant
chunk
on
the
very
northern
end,
that's
owned
by
the
u.s.
Forest
Service,
the
central.
What
we're
calling
the
central
plan
area
basically
runs
from
memory
Grove
and
City
Creek
up
over
Morris
meadows
and
across
the
the
bobsled
trail
and
then
on
its
eastern
end,
the
forks
of
the
of
dry,
creek
canyon.
M
The
majority
of
land
in
the
central
area
is
a
Salt
Lake
City
again
it's
a
combination
of
public
city,
public
lands
and
Salt
Lake
City
public
utilities.
There
are
a
number
of
private
parcels
right
in
the
center
of
of
this
area.
The
majority
of
those
private
parcels
have
trail
easements
already
across
them
to
accommodate
the
Bonneville
shoreline
trail
and
a
number
of
spur
trails
and
then
to
the
kind
of
south
east
side
of
the
central
area.
M
The
University
of
Utah
has
their
heritage,
preserve
it's
owned
by
the
University
and
is
subject
to
a
conservation
easement
held
by
Utah,
open
lands
and
then
finally,
the
South
plan
area
here
runs
from
Dry
Creek,
just
above
the
Huntsman
Cancer
Institute
and
basically
all
the
way
across
the
University
of
Utah
campus
and
above
research,
Park
and
then
down
on
the
southeastern
side.
It
meets
with
emigration
Canyon
Road.
M
Here
we
have
Mount
Van
cought
Red
Butte
mount
wire.
The
majority
of
this
part
of
the
plan
area
is
owned
by
the
u.s.
Forest
Service,
there's
a
significant
amount
of
ownership
right
along
the
BST,
the
University
of
Utah
property
and
then
all
the
way
down.
At
the
south
side,
Utah
State
Parks
owns
a
significant
chunk.
This
is
the
place
and
Salt
Lake
City
has
a
little
piece
as
well.
I.
M
Think
that's
good
enough
on
that
I.
One
thing
that
I
wanted
to
point
out.
So
obviously
this
isn't
the
end
of
Salt
Lake
City,
the
East
East
bench
neighborhood
continues
further
south
all
the
way
to
part
least
Canyon.
We
made
the
decision
to
limit
this.
This
initial
because
I'll
say
phase
of
the
of
foot
health
trails
plan
to
to
emigration
Canyon
north
to
North
Salt
Lake,
because
the
vast
majority
of
property
here
is
under
some
form
of
public
or
institutional
ownership.
M
M
M
What
their
preferences
are,
what
they
liked
and
didn't
like
about
the
about
the
Foothill
trail
system
and
we
sent
staff
out
onto
the
trails
to
engage
with
people
and
get
them
to
answer
our
survey.
We
put
up
postings
at
every
access
point
to
the
to
the
foothills
we
put
fliers
all
over
town
and,
ultimately,
over
the
course
of
a
year.
We
generated
about
fourteen
to
fifteen
hundred
responses,
and
we
use
that
to
put
together
an
RFP
to
bring
on
board
a
consultant.
M
Then
in
July
August
of
2017
we
were
able
to
bring
Alta
planning
and
design
on
board
as
as
our
trails
plan
consultant,
and
we
were
very
excited
to
bring
out
on
board
because
they
they
have
quite
a
bit
of
experience,
doing
other
transportation
plans,
both
in
Salt,
Lake,
City
and
elsewhere
around
the
country,
and
we
felt
like
they
would.
It
would
be
a
great
fit
for
this.
This
project
pretty-pretty
right
around
the
same
time.
M
We
did
a
what
we
called
a
week-long
deep
dive.
We
brought
together
representatives
from
37
different
stakeholder
groups
and
locked
them
in
a
room
for
a
week,
and
and
and
out
of
that,
came
the
very
first
draft
of
of
a
trail
plan
for
the
foothills
and
then
as
soon
as
we
had
that
we
we
put
that
up
online
on
a
really
excellent
interactive
map,
mapping
platform
that
our
consultant
came
up
with
for
us
and
that
that
mapping
platform
public
engagement
platform
online
generated
about
2,300
comments
or
responses.
We
were
extremely
happy
with
that.
B
B
M
There
were
a
lot
of
comments,
obviously,
but
if
I
could
try
to
characterize
some
of
the
themes,
I
would
say
that
we
we
were
hearing
from
a
lot
of
people
who
were
saying
by
and
large
I
think
that
that
most
people
were
pretty
happy
with
the
original
layout
of
the
trail
system
that
we
came
up
with.
But
there
was
a
lot
of
concerns
about
the
suggested
management
controls
that
we
we
put
on
those.
So
a
lot
of
people
were
were
saying.
Well,
you
know
I
like
this
trail,
but
I
think
this
should
be
a
bicycle.
M
Only
trail
or
I
really
like
this
trail,
but
I
think
it
should
be
a
hiking
only
trail
there,
and-
and
that
was
really
helpful.
We
also
as
part
of
that
initial
plan.
You
know
bye-bye,
we
were,
we
were
proposing
new
trails
to
be
constructed
and
also
proposing
existing
trails
to
either
be
incorporated
into
the
formal
trail
system
or
not
be
incorporated
and
either
abandoned
or
passively
or
actively
closed
by
some
mechanism
or
another,
and
there
were
a
number
of
trails
that
we
had.
M
We
had
not
selected
for
that
initial
trail
plan
that
people
said
you
know
hold
on
a
second
like
one
of
the
trails
that
you're
proposing
for
closure
is
actually
extremely
important.
You
know,
and
it
has
a
lot
of
fans
a
lot
of
users
and
that
you
know
for
a
very
good
reason
and
so
that
those
those
kinds
of
comments
popped
up
a
fair
bit.
We
also
heard
from
residents
who
live
near
either
trails
proposed
trails
or
proposed
trailhead
improvements
that
had
some
concerns
about.
M
You
know
increasing
traffic
on
their
street
or
about
putting
people
too
close
to
their
backyards.
Things
like
that,
and
so
we
we
you
know
we
did
our
best
to
address
all
the
comments
that
we
could
I
think
there
was
to
some
degree
there
were.
There
were
a
number
of
people
who
who
were
commenting
on
the
plan
that
you
know
really
wanted
to
see.
M
We
also
introduced
a
fourth
type
of
management
control,
which
was
trails
that
are
open
to
foot
traffic
in
both
directions,
but
only
to
upheld
bicycles,
and
that
that
was
a
that
management.
Control
allowed
us
to
look
at
creating
a
lot
of
really
interesting
mountain
bike
loops
well,
while
still
providing
a
large
number
of
trail
segments
that
I
think
would
feel
safe
for
for
people
who
are
on
foot.
M
So
anyways
we
we,
we
then
went,
and
we
used
the
the
comments
from
the
initial
online
mapping
process
to
revise
the
plan.
We
we,
we
decided,
based
on
a
lot
of
the
feedback
that
that
we
might
be
missing
a
number
of
neighbors
who
live
near
the
trail
system,
but
hadn't
had
a
chance
to
participate
or
even
be
informed
that
we
were
doing
this.
M
So
we
decided
to
do
a
couple
of
open
houses
to
make
sure
that,
even
if
people
weren't
very
comfortable
the
online
platform,
they
had
a
chance
to
provide
us
with
comments,
and
we
we
sent
out
mailings
to
every
house
that
was
within
half
a
mile
of
the
the
foothills.
You
know:
advertising
our
open
houses
and,
at
the
same
time,
that
we
were
doing
the
open
houses.
We
we
put
another
version
of
the
map
back
out
and
we
we
had
really
two
really
successful,
open
houses.
M
M
And
and
now
we
are
obviously
also
in
the
process
of
going
in
front
of
you
and
in
front
of
our
parks,
natural
lands
and
trails
and
urban
forestry,
Advisory,
Board
and
City
Council,
and
we're
expecting
that,
as
as
as
we
have
public
hearings
related
to
that
process
will
be
notifying
all
of
the
people
who
who
participated
in
the
effort.
This
is
another
opportunity
for
them
to
to
engage
in
the
plan
before
it's
finalized.
M
Are
the
currently
the
the
trail
plan
network
is
a
hundred
and
six
miles
of
system
trails?
That's
virtually
equivalent
to
the
current
total
mileage
of
trails?
If
you
take
into
account
the
Bonneville
shoreline
trail
and
all
of
the
various
user
trails
and
social
trails
that
we
map
during
our
our
baseline
studies?
M
So
we
are,
we
are
proposing
to
construct
about
65
miles
of
new
trail,
incorporate
about
41
miles
of
existing
trail
into
the
formal
trail
system
for
that
hundred
and
six
miles,
and
then
there
would
be
another
over
60
miles
of
social
trails
that
we
would
propose
not
incorporating
into
the
plan
and
either
actively
or
passively
decommissioning
the
majority
of
them.
There
are
some
trails
that
we
feel
like.
We
will
not
be
successful,
decommissioning
them,
but
we
also
can't
in
good
conscience,
adopt
them
into
our
formal
trail
system
because
they
are
unmaintainable.
M
M
The
the
formal
trail
system
would
include
about
forty
six
miles
of
multi-directional
shared
trails
about
26
miles
of
those
trails
that
I
mentioned
that
would
be
open
to
foot
traffic
in
both
directions,
but
only
open
to
uphill
mountain
bikes.
There
would
be
about
17
miles
of
downhill,
mountain
bike
trails,
restricted
to
that
user
group
and
then
about
18
miles
of
hiking.
Only
trails.
M
As
as
I
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
we
are
still
in
the
process
of
making
revisions
to
the
to
the
plan
document.
Some
of
the
most
recent
revisions
that
we've
made
we've
made
some
revisions
to
the
phasing
plan
based
on
feedback
from
the
different
agencies
and
we're
starting
to
have
a
different
idea
of
which
landowners
may
be
easier
to
work
with
than
others.
M
We've
also
taken
a
really
close
look
at
construction
and
maintenance
costs
and
made
some
revisions
since
the
since
the
August
draft
and
we've
made
some
modifications
to
a
couple
of
trail
segments
based
on
agency
feedback
from
some
of
the
landowner
jurisdictions
by
and
large,
the
trail
system
has
not
changed
very
much
at
all,
since
that
August
2018
draft
I
think
the
one
really
major
change
is.
We
have
removed
the
trail
that
was
proposed
to
loop
around
the
uppermost
section
of
dry
creek
for
habitat
security
concerns.
M
This
is
a
kind
of
the
full
system
map
here
and
no,
it's
not
especially
easy
to
see
here,
but
I.
Just
I
wanted
to
bring
this
up
just
to
make
sure
everybody
was
familiar
with
the
symbology.
So
the
the
solid
the
solid
lines
on
this
recommended
trail
system
map
represent
trails
that
exists
now
and
that
we
are
proposing
to
incorporate
into
the
formal
trail
system
and
trails
that
are
dotted
lines
represent
proposed
trails
that
we
would
propose.
Constructing
the
different
colors
represent
the
different
management
controls,
multi-use,
hiking
biking
or
close
to
downhill,
bicycles,.
M
Every
single
trail
segment
is
given
a
name:
we've
identified
the
existing
and
the
proposed
mileage.
The
management
can
control
and
then
there's
a
there's,
a
narrative
about
each
individual
trail
segment,
including
what
type
of
users
it
would
serve.
What
the
trail
experience
intended
trail
experience
would
be,
and
then
it
we
have
also
recommended
creating
three
different
habitat
study
areas
in
kind
of
the
upper
limits
of
each
of
the
three
sub
areas
where
currently,
there
is
very
limited
recreational
impact.
M
The
the
trails
plan
process
engaged
a
number
of
environmental
stakeholders,
but
through
that
process
we
realized
that
no
one
really
had
very
good
habitat
data
for
this
area
of
the
foothills,
and
we
did
not
feel
confident
moving
forward
with
trail
construction,
where
there's
currently
very
limited
recreational
impact.
Until
we
had
a
chance
to
assess
what
impact
trail,
construction
likely
would
have
so
so
force.
L
Lois
and
thank
you
for
having
the
time
for
us
to
present
to
you
so
I'm,
a
transportation
planner
in
the
transportation
division,
and
we
focus
mostly
on
on
the
planning
and
the
design
of
the
facilities
for
walking
and
bicycling
and
driving
and
taking
the
bus
that
are
on
the
street.
So
we
don't
have
the
fun
job
necessarily
of
going
for
hikes
in
the
foothills,
though
sometimes
Louis
entertains
us
and
takes
us
up
there,
but
it
quickly
becomes
obvious
that
we're
not
geologists
or
environmental
planners
I've
been
involved
in
the
in
the
plan.
L
Actually,
since
the
beginning,
I
worked
for
Alta
planning
and
design
before
joining
the
transportation
division
and
so
have
been
involved
in
in
a
lot
of
the
different
steps
of
the
the
planned
development.
What
I
think
is
most
important
to
consider
here
is
that
the
plan
doesn't
only
recommend
those
linear
improvements
on
the
trails
themselves,
but
it
also
recommends
improvements
at
the
trailheads,
where
you,
where
you
access
the
trail
and
and
particularly
at
those
major
trailhead
improvements.
We
see
a
really
great
opportunity
to
connect
our
on
street
networks
with
the
the
off
street
networks.
L
That
louis
is
working
on
so
kind
of
going
from
north
to
south.
We're
excited
that
the
future
nine
line
trail
along
Sunnyside
will
connect
to
the
emigration
Canyon
trailhead
and
provide
an
opportunity
to
get
to
the
trailhead
without
having
to
drive
there,
which
is
gonna,
mean
reduced
trail
head
size
and
reduce
maintenance
load
and
and
also
a
lower
smaller
carbon
footprint,
as
well
at
the
dry
creek
area
or
the
pop
orton
park
area.
L
Consider
that
one
of
the
one
of
the
prettiest
locations,
where
we're
two
systems
meet
up
currently
there's
a
fairly
informal
parking
lot.
If
you
will
just
off
of
Bonneville
Boulevard,
and
it
really
only
fits
maybe
six
or
seven
cars
before
it's
full
and
then
cars
will
fill
up
the
parking
near
the
the
gate
house,
a
City,
Creek
Canyon,
just
a
few
hundred
feet.
L
So
being
able
to
connect
the
the
Foothill
trail
system
to
Bonneville,
boulevards,
walking
and
bicycling
paths,
as
well
as
the
the
paved
and
unpaved
trails
that
are
in
memory,
grove
I
think
is
an
excellent
opportunity
and
then
looking
a
little
bit
farther
west
and
a
little
bit
farther
north.
We
see
a
really
great
opportunity
to
connect
the
the
future
Warm
Springs
Park
improvements
that
are
near
200,
West
or
300
west,
with
the
trail
system,
as
well
as
a
future
study
of
600
north.
L
That
would
improve
connectivity
for
West
Side
residents
to
the
trail
system,
because
currently
they're
they're,
fairly
divided
from
that
recreational
asset
by
the
railroad
by
I-15
and
by
very
busy
roads
very
busy
roads
that
run
east-west
connecting
those
neighborhood
and
then
again.
This
doesn't
necessarily
directly
apply
to
us,
but
I
think
that
connecting
to
North
Salt
Lake
and
the
the
wonderful
amenities
that
they
have
there,
as
well
as
their
population.
Bringing
them
into
our
Foothill
area
is
an
opportunity
to
to
bridge
that
divide.
L
That
right
now
is,
for
the
most
part,
filled
with
some
refineries
and
some
gravel
pits
and
it'd
be
nice
to
to
have
a
more
natural
ecological
connection
between
those
two
and
if
you
have
any
questions
about
any
of
the
street
network
improvements
and
how
they
would
impact
the
the
trail
system.
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
those.
L
M
As
part
of
the
part
of
the
recommendations
around
those
trailheads,
the
plan
makes
some
generic
recommendations
about
three
different
types
of
access
points.
So
we've
identified
major
trail
heads
minor
trail,
heads
and
then
just
access
points
and,
and
each
each
of
those
different
types,
sort
of
has
has
a
number
of
recommended
features
either
associated
with
it
or
not
associated
with
it,
and
we
have
identified
five
major
trail
hood
locations.
One
of
those
is
existing.
M
It's
at
Tunnel
Springs
right
at
the
boundary
of
North
Salt
Lake
in
Salt,
Lake,
City
and
already
has
quite
a
few
amenities.
The
others
do
not
currently
exist.
Well,
they
exist,
but
not
in
the
form
that
is
recommended
and
those
include
a
trailhead.
The
major
trailhead
at
Warm
Springs
Park,
major
trailhead
on
Bonneville
Boulevard,
a
major
trailhead
at
Porton
Park
and
another
major
trailhead
at
immigration.
Canyon
Road.
M
M
We've
also
identified
ten
minor
trail
heads
which
are
locations
where
already
there
is
a
little
bit
parking
or
there's
the
opportunity
to
create
a
little
bit
of
parking,
and
at
least
a
small
formalized,
trailhead
access
point,
and
then
we've
identified
19
access
points
which,
as
basically
means
that
there
is
no
available
parking,
except
perhaps
you
know
just
on
street
parking
in
a
residential
neighborhood.
But
there
is
a
formal
legal
access
to
the
trail
system.
M
We,
we
did
not
go
into
detailed
designs
or
cost
estimates
in
this
plan,
and
so
we
are.
We
are
anticipating
that,
then
that
would
that
would
happen
in
the
future.
We
would
we
would
fund
the
development
of
detailed
designs
and
construction
documents
for
the
trail
system
and
we
actually
are
submitting
a
capital
improvement
project
request
in
this
coming
fiscal
year
to
do
that,
also
as
planning
staff
or
reviewing
the
plan.
M
The
the
plan
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
them
in
detail,
but
the
plan
includes
a
host
of
guidelines
and
best
practices,
including
trail
alignment,
best
practices,
trail
construction
guidelines,
trail
decommissioning
guidelines
and
also
signage
guidelines
for
both
trail
heads
as
I
mentioned,
and
also
for
wayfinding
signage.
That
will
be
located
throughout
the
trail
system.
M
That
a
10
percent
average
grade
a
10
percent
maximum
average
grade
yeah
and
and
I
think
that
when,
when
we
actually
go
to
looking
to
construct
individual
trail
segments,
that's
going
to
be
highly
dependent
on
the
the
cross
slope,
the
underlying
soil
and
geology,
and
also
the
intended
user
group.
Your.
E
Your
consultant
will
know
a
lot
more
than
me
on
this
subject.
Just
for
the
record,
your
consultant
will
know
a
lot
more
than
me
on
this
subject,
but
that
seems
like
a
rather
steep
trail.
I
only
know
this,
because
I
did
trail
maintenance
for
summer
and
we
tried
to
build
out
somewhere
between
six
and
eight
percent.
For
most
access,
I
mean
more
more
intense
users
would
do
more,
but
I
just
remember
that
one
little
point
that
we
were,
after
a
six
to
eight
percent
grade,
just
a
thought.
Yeah.
M
I
completely
agree:
I
I
think
that
there
there
are
some
situations
where
you
know,
if
you're
building,
if
you're
building
you
know,
especially
like
a
hiking,
only
trail
on
an
extremely
steep
side,
slope.
That's
trying
to
get
you
know
from
it's
trying
to
gain
elevation
quickly.
What
we
have
what
we
have
found
is
that
it
you
know
it
can
be
possible
to
construct
a
trail
as
long
as
you're.
Putting
in
you
know
great
changes
as
you
as
you
as
you
climb
it.
D
M
Thank
you
so
so
I'm
gonna
dive
into
trail
maintenance.
Now
it's
a
very
fitting
time
here.
So
right
now,
there's
very
minimal
maintenance
happening
in
the
foothills.
Our
our
division
does
a
little
bit
of
maintenance
generally
on
a
reactionary
basis,
and
also
the
Bonneville
shoreline.
Trail
Committee
will
will
generally
do
a
couple
of
volunteer
projects
each
year
and
do
a
little
bit
of
trail
that
that's
about
it.
M
So
we
we
used
a
rule
of
thumb
of
about
4%
of
anticipated
construction
costs
as
what
we
ought
to
be
setting
aside
for
annual
maintenance
of
the
physical
trails,
and
then
we
also
added
on
top
of
that
recommended
$1,500
per
trail
system
mile
for
a
weed
control
and
then
on
top
of
that,
some
recommended
funding
for
Ranger
position
so
that
we
could
have
some
level
of
enforcement.
In
the
trail
system.
M
Draper
has
so
Draper
has
kind
of
a
hybrid
non-profit
model.
They
have
the
corner
canyon
foundation
that
they
work
very
closely
with
the
the
city
of
Draper
has
a
trail
crew,
a
small
trail
crew
they
fund
and,
and
then
the
the
corner.
Canyon
foundation
also
has
a
small
trail
crew
and
they
work
together
to
to
conduct
trail
maintenance.
The
city
of
Draper
also
employs
a
single
Foothill
trails,
ranger
and
they've
I
know
that
they
would
like
more
Rangers
but
they've.
M
M
You
know
I
I,
think
we
will
learn
more.
As
you
know,
the
trail
system
comes
together
and
I
think
I.
Think
that
it
is.
You
know,
we've
tried
to
make
a
relatively
conservative
estimate
here,
but
at
the
same
time
we
don't
really
know
just
how
popular
you
know.
The
trail
system
may
become
in
the
future
and
and
how
difficult
or
it
will
or
won't
be
to
control
noxious
weeds
and
I
mean.
E
The
City
Council
and
again,
your
consultants
will
have
better
information
and
I
will.
But
my
sense
in
a
plan
like
this
because
I
know
I
mean
trillions
is
important
and
it
makes
a
big
difference
in
the
quality
and
you
can
really
tell
which
communities
have
planned
trails,
which
ones
don't
and
their
attractions
and
which
ones
are
maintained,
and
who
has
crews
that
go
out
and
you
know
repair
them
and
to
me
it
seems
like
you're,
never
gonna
get
the
funding
written
in
the
plan
like
I.
E
That's
my
general
impression
of
how
this
process
works,
and
so
I
would
not
lowball
the
plan
if
you're
gonna
get
that
be
my
you
know
as
someone
who
has
no
control
over
budget,
but
it's
your
never
get
the
funding
that
you're
asking
for
in
your
plan.
So
don't
don't
be
conservative
and
lowball
it
it's.
My
I
would
take
a
particular
look
at
that.
In
my
opinion.
Thank
you.
That's.
M
So
we're
getting
close
to
the
end
here,
we
we
looked
at
creating
a
phasing
plan
recognizing
that
we
aren't
going
to
be
able
to
build
65
miles
of
trail
and
do
all
this
all
at
once,
and
we
wanted
that.
We
wanted
to
have
a
phasing
plan
that
that
made
a
lot
of
logical
sense,
and
so
we
we
came
up
with
a
phasing
methodology
that
was
based
primarily
on
three
things.
That
was
what
level
of
public
support
individual
trail
segments
received.
M
The
phase
phase
one
includes
between
14
and
15
miles
of
new
trails.
Those
trails
are
entirely
on
Salt,
Lake,
City,
and/or
University
of
Utah
property,
which
we
feel
like
would
be
the
the
easiest
ones
to
do.
First
and
the
estimated
construction
cost
that
those
those
trail
segments
is
about
six
hundred
and
twenty
thousand
dollars.
M
We
have
additional
estimated
costs
related
to
both
active
and
passive
decommissioning
of
trails
and
when
I
say
active
and
passive.
Active
decommissioning
is
where
you
completely
obliterate.
The
trail
we
don't
have.
We
aren't
recommending
too
much
of
that,
because
it's
very
costly
and
then
passive
decommissioning
is
where
we
basically
close,
the
you
know
the
entrance
to
a
social
trail
and
put
a
sign
up
that
says,
trails
closed
and
you
obliterate
the
first
hundred
feet
of
it.
M
These
phase,
one
I
thought
I'd
share
with
you,
looks
like
this,
so
the
primarily
we
are.
We
are
proposing
improvements
that
are
kind
of
in
the
central
section
of
the
plan
area.
We're
proposing
our
desert
was
our
most
popular
proposed
trail
alignment,
which
was
an
alternate
to
Dry
Creek
and
would
allow
a
separate
downhill
mountain
bike
trail
and
then
all
other
users
could
be
on
a
alternate
trail
segment.
M
Dry
Creek.
We
think
that
would
resolve
a
lot
of
conflicts
and
making
for
a
much
more
pleasant
user
experience
for
everybody,
also
just
an
improved
route
up
to
the
summit
of
the
avenues.
Twin
Peaks
were
also
looking
at
implementing
a
downhill
mountain
bike.
Trail
option
kinda
from
the
highest
point
of
the
Bonneville
shoreline
trail
on
that
South
City,
Creek,
Ridgeline,
all
the
way
down
to
the
trailhead
at
the
Bonneville
Boulevard
again.
M
That
would
allow
a
lot
of
people
to
get
off
of
Bonneville
Boulevard
itself
and
have
a
soft
surface
Trail
option
and
then
a
few
things
in
the
North
Area
an
alternate
trail
that
would
climb
more
gradually
out
of
City
Creek
on
the
north
and
then
a
trail
connection
in
our
north
foothills.
That
would
facilitate
a
number
of
different
loop
options
and
would
really
open
up
the
possibility
of
using
this.
This
fire
road
that
goes
above
the
gravel
pits
and
has
a
lot
of
great
views
of
the
Great
Salt
Lake.
M
We
anticipate
the
City
Council,
reviewing
this
at
least
one
more
time
and
then
eventually
a
City
Council
public
hearing
and
City
City
Council
adoption.
Next
next
steps
beyond
adoption
and
moving
forward.
We
are
planning
to
go
after
grant
funding
for
Phase
one
from
the
Utah
outdoor
recreation
grant
and
the
recreational
trails
program
grant,
both
of
which
we
feel
like
are
great
fits
for
implementation
of
this
trail
system.
We
are
in
the
process
of
working
on
construction
and
maintenance
agreement,
so
at
the
University
of
Utah
and
Utah
State
Parks.
M
We
we
are
exploring
maintenance,
funding,
partnerships
and
endowment
options
and
that's
all
what
we're
working
on
now
and
then
in
in
the
you
know,
probably
by
2020.
We
expect
to
actually
be
doing
bidding
and
construction
of
phase
one
of
the
trail
system.
We
would
be
doing
signage,
development
and
installation,
we'll
probably
initiate
habitat
analysis
and
those
habitats
study
areas
later
this
year
and
have
those
studies
continue
for
a
couple
of
years.
M
Obviously
we
need
to
fund
hire
and
initiate
trail
maintenance
and
management
and
then
looking
a
little
further
out,
maybe
four
years
out
five
years
out,
we
would
be
fundraising
and
looking
to
implement
phases,
two
and
three
of
construction
as
well
as
trailhead
improvements
and
then,
ultimately,
within
the
next
five
to
ten
years.
We
would
like
to
amend
this
trails
plan
to
also
include
that
southern
section
from
immigration
Canyon
down
to
parlays
and
thank
you
I,
think
that's
my
whole
presentation
I'd
be
happy
to
take
any
questions.
Have.
M
We
have
an
end.
We
expect
the
county
will
actually
be
a
really
important
source
of
funding,
especially
our
our
planned
Phase.
Two
is
going
to
be
a
heavy
lift,
it'll
be
between
one
and
a
half,
and
two
million
dollars,
probably,
and
it's
much
more
than
we're
likely
to
be
able
to
come
up
with
from
CIP
funds
or
grants
and
I
think
with
the
County.
A
couple
different
sources
at
the
county
will
probably
be
perfect
for.
C
That
yeah
I
know
they've,
set
aside
some
funds
for
trails
and
they
particularly
like
projects
that
there's
some
matching
funds
coming
from
the
city.
That's
gonna
be
running
it
and
yeah.
Just
clearly,
it
sounds
like
that's
going
to
happen,
have
some
possible
open
space
and
trail
bonds
coming
up
in
the
near
future?
That
might
also
be
helpful.
That's
right!
This
is
such
a.
C
D
D
So
critically,
important
and
I
would
say:
I
think
that's
a
big
hurdle
and
something
that
it's
a
barrier
for
people
to
actually
use
the
trail.
If
they
don't
have
that
background
knowledge,
they
didn't
grow
up
here,
they're
not
married
to
someone
who
likes
a
lot.
You
know
they
it's
it's
hard
to
access.
If
you
don't
have
that,
you
know
pretty
high
threshold
level
of
knowledge.
So
when.
L
L
And
then
a
couple
years
later,
working
for
all
the
planning
and
design,
we
did
the
Jordan
River
Trail
wayfinding
study
and
then
those
signs
went
in
and
then
and
then,
when
this
started,
I
don't
know.
Maybe
a
year
before
it
started,
I
went
for
my
first
mountain
bike:
ride
on
the
Bonneville
trail
in
trail
and
ended
up
incredibly
lost.
D
L
B
Louis
I
have
kind
of
a
technical
question
because
I'm
very
familiar
with
all
the
work
you've
done
on
this
and,
as
always,
I'm
always
so
impressed
by
everything
you
do.
You
just
raised
the
bar
on
the
projects
you
work
on
every
time,
I
see
them.
So
this
is
no
exception.
I'm
wondering
I
like
how
many
access
points
you've
identified
along
these
three
zones,
and
maybe
this
is
also
a
precursor
to
when
you
do
the
next
phase
for
the
more
difficult
parts
of
the
checkerboard
ownership.
B
One
of
the
things
that
came
up
a
couple
of
years
ago
with
you
was
identifying
where
we
had
public
easements
that
were
forgotten
and
I
know
you
did
a
lot
of
work
to
figure
those
out
I'm.
Just
so
I
guess
I'm.
One
I'm
curious
did
any
of
those
access
points
who
identified
in
this
correlate
to
some
of
those
easements
and
or
reduce
those
type
of
easements
I'm
more
into
play
for
their
south.
M
After
quite
a
bit
of
looking
at
their
I,
there
weren't
as
many
of
those
as
I,
you
know
maybe
had
initially
thought,
but
but
yes,
the
answer
is
there.
There
are
at
least
two
of
those
that
we
have
rediscovered
that
that
are
included
here
within
this
portion
of
the
plan,
and
then
there
there
there
would
be
probably
at
least
two
or
three
others
that
would
come
into
play
down
in
the
in
the
southern
section.
When
we
take
that
on
yeah.
B
I
really
am
pleased
with
how
many
access
points
you've
identified
a
varying
levels
that
you
have
different
tiers
along.
This
section
I
feel
like
it's
very
well
distributed
and,
as
always,
you
do
a
great
job.
So
I
was
just
curious
how
that
kind
of
played
out,
because
I
know
there
was
a
lot
of
work.
So
thanks
Louis,
that's.
D
So
I
also
want
to
say
great
job
really
love.
This
love.
How
it's
going
in
I
have
one
little
comment
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
on
these
wayfinding
signs.
It
says
you
know
all
the
things
that
are
going
to
be
there,
including
rules
regulations,
trail
descriptions
are
those
descriptions
going
to
say
roughly
how
long
you
know
not
only
how
in
miles
but
in
time,
because
I
see
that
in
the
report
I
want
to
make
sure
those
are
all
on
the
map,
because
I
think
that's
as
helpful
as
anything
and.
M
D
D
I
mean
there's
generally,
it's
plan
on
X
I,
see
that
every
in
every
state,
National
Park
I
go
to
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
people
have
a
sense
of
you
know,
strenuous
or
not,
or
so
that
there's
an
element
as
she
says.
If
I
have
never
done.
This
trail
I
want
a
little
information
about
what
I'm
getting
into
absolutely
I.
M
Think
that
what
we're
there's
there's
a
lot
of
information
that
you
could
attempt
to
put
put
on,
honest
and
and
and
I
so
I
think
what
we
will
likely
look
to
do
is
at
the
five
major
trail
heads
where
we
anticipate
the
majority
of
people
would
access
the
trail
system.
We
will
probably
have
more
of
lake
up.
You
know
kind
of
a
larger
kiosk
or
even
several
kiosks,
so
that
we
could.
You
know
we
wouldn't
have
to
cram
everything
into
a
single
sign
and
could
spread
it
out
and
have
loop
information
and
things
about.
M
M
D
J
J
Yes
and
and
I,
don't
see
that
what
I
don't
see
that
in
here
I
know
it's
a
really
really
actively
used
trail.
One
of
the
most
one
I
mean
when
I'm
on
my
step
outside
on
my
street
I
will
get
stuck
by
everybody
going
by
how
do
I
get
to
inside
Rio.
So
I'm
wondering
what
is
that
this
system
plan
include
anything
for
that
relief
of
that
trail
or
anything.
We.
M
We
really
want
to
attempt
to
pull
use
to
the
greatest
extent
possible
from
access
points
or
trail
heads
that
are
way
up
in
these
residential
neighborhoods,
like
the
one
on
ensign,
Vista
Drive
and
pull
them
down
lower
to
trail
heads
that
are
located
off
of
more
major
thoroughfares
and
there
is
with
it
with
a
trail
that
was
constructed
last
year.
It's
now
there's
now
a
very
nice
trail
that
you
can
access
on
Victory,
Road
and
climb
all
the
way
up
ensign
from
the
backside.
M
It's
it's
significantly
longer,
but
also
much
more
gradual
than
that
front
sight,
trail
and
I.
So
ensign
peak.
That
is
a.
It
is
a
special
challenge
because
it
is,
it
is
so
famous.
It
gets
over
150,000
visitors
a
year,
and
many
of
them
are
tourists
or
visitors
who
you
know
they
see
the
temple
they
and
they
go
to
ensign
peak
and-
and
there.
J
M
J
C
M
M
E
M
And
we're
working
with
our
IMS
department,
they're
kind
of
on
notice
that
we're
planning
to
come
to
them
once
we
have
a
final
version
of
our
trail
network
that
we
load
the
map
and
have
a
sort
of
city
managed
online
platform
and
I,
don't
know
how
much
effort
they're
gonna
put
into
that
functionality,
but
it
would
be
really
nice
and
I
think
that
it
seems
like
especially,
you
know,
two
or
three
years
from
now.
That
probably
will
be
quite
possible.
Then.