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Salt Lake City Planning Commission Meeting - August 12, 2020
A
B
I
I'd
be
happy
to
do
so
too.
If
you
would
like
to
join
the
meeting
members
of
the
public,
we
have
a
link
that
we're
providing
on
our
screen.
If
you
would
like
to
join
this
virtual
webex
meeting,
all
you
need
to
do
is
visit
our
website
and
we
have
the
url
for
you
and
you
click
on
the
august
12th
agenda
and
just
go
ahead
and
follow
the
webex
link.
B
Once
you
become
an
attendee
planning
staff
will
see
your
name
pop
up.
You
will
join
the
meeting
muted
when
there
is
an
item
that
comes
up
on
the
agenda
where
you
would
like
to
speak
on
your
screen
in
the
lower
right
hand,
corner
there's
a
tiny
little
hand,
and
we
ask
that
you
click
on
that.
So
it
raises
your
hand
that
you
would
like
to
speak
to
that
particular
item
during
the
public
hearing
portion
of
that
project.
B
We'd
be
happy
to
read
those
into
the
record
for
you
if
you
need
help
with
anything
else
pertaining
to
this
meeting
tonight,
please
email
us
and
we
will
be
monitoring
that
the
entire
evening.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
A
You
michaela,
okay,
let
me
go
ahead
and
get
started
with
our
first
agenda
item,
which
is
the
approval
of
the
minutes
for
the
july
22nd
2020
meeting.
Does
anybody
have
any
comments
on
the
minutes
that
were
provided.
D
E
A
E
F
A
Brenda,
yes,
hey
motion,
passes
next
item
report
of
the
chair
and
vice
chair,
I
had
nothing
to
record,
doesn't
have
anything
to
report.
I
do
not.
A
Right
then,
we'll
move
to
the
public
hearings
of
the
agenda
and
the
first
item
on
our
a
special
exception
for
outdoor
dining
at
approximately
89
north
d
street
and
kelsey.
Oh
sorry,
this
is
case
number
pln,
pcm,
2020,
0057
and
kelsey
is
making
the
staff
presentation.
H
The
requested
outdoor
dining
is
located
within
the
buildable
area
to
the
south,
as
well
as
in
the
required
front
and
corner
side
yards.
The
proposed
outdoor
dining
is
approximately
215
square
feet
in
size.
The
subject
property
is
located
in
the
rmf
35,
which
is
the
moderate
density
multi-family
residential
zoning
district
and
is
a
legal
non-conforming
use.
H
Please
note:
the
property
is
also
located
within
the
avenues.
Local
historic
district
mentioned.
The
subject.
Property
is
located
at
89
d
street.
It
is
a
corner
property
on
2nd
avenue
and
d.
The
majority
of
the
surrounding
uses
are
residential
in
nature,
with
the
exception
of
134d,
which
is
kitty
corner,
which
is
in
elementary.
H
H
Well,
this
property
became
many
commercial
uses
within
salt
lake
city's
residential
neighborhoods
became
non-conforming
in
1995
after
the
city-wide
rezone
took
place,
the
city's
policy
towards
non-conforming
uses
didn't
formally
adjust
until
the
small
neighborhood
business.
Amendment
proposal
was
conducted
in
2010.
H
The
smb
study
was
conducted
in
order
to
identify
non-conforming
neighborhood
scale
commercial
buildings
and
uses
throughout
the
city
once
identified.
The
study
determined
whether
the
property
was
a
candidate
for
the
s
b.
Zoning
district,
the
subject
property
located
at
89
d,
is
identified
within
the
smb
study.
H
H
H
This
existing
outdoor
dining
is
allowed
under
mayor
mendenhall's
proclamation,
which
was
issued
on
june
10th.
If
the
requested
outdoor
dining
is
approved,
the
existing
picnic
tables
would
be
removed
due
to
the
current
pandemic.
The
property
owner
provided
three
site
plans,
one
for
the
proposed
area,
one
for
covid
19,
spacing
requirements
and
one
for
post
coven
19..
H
This
site
plan
illustrates
the
requested
area
for
the
outdoor
dining.
The
property
owner
is
requesting
73
square
feet
in
the
buildable
area
to
the
south
94
square
feet
in
the
front
yard
and
48
square
feet
in
the
corner
side
yard.
The
requested
area
is
identified
in
blue
on
the
illustrated
site
plan.
H
Please
note
on
this
site
plan
and
on
the
following
site
plan,
the
property
owner
is
proposing
to
move
one
of
the
tables
into
the
park,
ship
she's,
currently
working
with
real
estate
services.
On
that
request,
this
site
plan
illustrates
the
layout
for
post,
coca-19
and
again,
one
of
the
three
tables
I
believe,
would
be
moved
to
the
park
strip
along
d
street.
H
The
following
photos
identify
the
locations
of
the
proposed
outdoor
dining.
This
is
a
photo
of
the
buildable
area
and
the
southern
side
yard
the
front
yard
and
the
corner
side.
Yard
staff
has
received
several
public
comments,
which
are
all
located
within
attachment.
F
of
the
staff
report.
The
following
concerns
were
discussed
as
key
considerations.
H
I
H
The
listed
conditions
are
to
buffer
and
screen
that
residential
use
from
the
proposed
outdoor
dining
space
staff
also
received
comments
and
concerns
regarding
off
off-street
parking
for
the
existing
business.
The
existing
non-conforming
restaurant
has
two
off
street
parking
stalls
located
to
the
west
in
regards
to
required
parking.
The
existing
restaurant
would
require
approximately
three
off
street
parking
styles,
so
the
existing
off-shoot
parking
is
considered
to
be
non-complying.
H
H
H
H
H
H
The
notice
of
application
was
mailed
on
june
10th
2020
and
the
planning
permission
hearing
was
noticed
on
june
30th
and
staff
is
recommending
that
the
planning
commission
approve
the
requested
special
exception
with
the
listed
conditions
in
the
staff
report
and
the
motion
sheet.
I'm
happy
to
address
any
questions
at
this
time
that
you
might
have.
A
Okay,
then
the
applicant,
I
understand
we
have
two
presenters
suzette
and
josh
eaton.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,.
J
Okay,
do
I
need
to
are
you
do
you
want?
Let's
see
my
video
unmuted
there
we
go
hi
hi,
I'm
suzette
eaton,
my
husband,
josh
eaton
we're
the
owners
of
the
property
at
89d
street.
J
We
are
actually
residents
of
the
avenues.
In
fact,
we
live
just
over
three
blocks
away
directly
across
the
street,
from
a
cafe
and
with
limited
parking
and
a
half
a
block
from
another,
with
no
parking
both
with
outdoor
patio
seating.
We
understand
the
potential
issues
of
this
proposal
and
we
do
really
want
to
make
it
work
for
all
of
us.
J
J
So
I
just
wanted
to
go
over
those
really
quick
and
explain
how
we
would
accommodate
those
recommendations.
Number
one.
The
patio
needs
to
close
at
9
pm.
J
2
no
music
will
be
allowed
at
any
time.
In
addition
to
help
with
potential
customer
noise,
we'll
post
signage,
to
remind
customers
to
be
aware
of
their
noise
level
and
the
tenant
rules
will
include
responsibility
to
keep
the
noise
down
as
an
addendum
to
the
lease
number.
Three
was
a
fence
on
the
south
side.
That
fence
is
already
there,
but
it's
in
kind
of
rough
shape.
J
So
we
will
repair
that
existing
fence
to
make
it
solid
and
make
sure
it's
six
feet
high
between
the
two
properties
and
then
a
fence
on
the
west
side
of
the
patio,
which
is
where
the
red
line
is
behind
the
blue
patio
area.
That's.
E
J
That's
16
feet:
east
of
the
main
floor
windows
that
were
the
concern
of
the
83
d
street
homeowner,
so
the
homeowner
on
the
left
side
at
83.
She
has
to.
She
has
some
windows
that
are
16
feet
behind
the
front
of
the
house,
and
so
the
patio,
our
patio,
will
be
moved,
16
feet
in
front
of
those
and
that
fence
will
be
even
with
the
front
of
her
house.
So
there
won't
be
any
access
of
any
customers
or
people
on
that
patio
close
to
those
windows
or
in
the
side
yard,
or
anything
like
that.
J
Planting
number,
five
plantings
or
planters
added
we'll
cut
the
concrete
to
make
a
24
inch
wide
planter
running
east
west
along
the
south
fence
line
and
turn
it
north
towards
the
building,
with
the
new
north-south
fence
to
accommodate
five
to
eight
columnar
trees
that
will
grow
to
a
minimum
of
fifteen
feet.
J
High
I've
kind
of
already
sourced
those
and
there's
a
great
tree
that
works
in
this
in
this
area,
and
it
should
it
grows
15
to
20
feet
high,
and
I
would
do
it
like
the
image
you
can
see
on
the
slide
plant
them
right
together,
so
that
they'll
shield
the
neighbor's
house
from
the
patio
sight
line,
so
that
she
won't
be
disturbed.
That
way
and
they'll
also
add
an
additional
sound
buffer.
So
it'll
add
three
more
feet.
J
Take
it'll
actually
take
away
three
more
feet
from
the
patio
space,
but
will
give
her
a
little
bit
more
buffer.
I
think
that
any
patio
seating
in
this
scenario
would
end
up
in
any
chairs
and
tables
would
end
up
being
probably
at
least
25
feet
away
from
those
windows.
Once
you
put
the
because
the
tables
and
chairs
have
to
be
located
in
the
blue
area
against
the
building
in
the
buildable
area,
and
then
number
six
will
attain
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
all
these
changes,
obviously,
and
then
also
quickly.
J
There
was
some
issues
brought
to
our
attention
from
the
neighbors
through
this
process
and
we
wanted
to
make
sure
we
were
addressing
those
as
well,
like,
I
said,
we're
part
of
the
neighborhood,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
this
is
a
smooth
process
for
everyone,
privacy,
which
is
a
big
issue.
This
is
a
significant
issue
and
we
fully
understand
the
neighbors
concerns.
J
Our
main.
Our
plan
is
to
mitigate
this
with
the
new
six
foot
fence
that
we
just
talked
about
and
also
the
new
tree
barrier.
J
The
trees
grow
three
feet
in
diameter
like
I
was
saying
so
they
increase
the
distance
from
any
possible
customer
to
nearly
you
know:
20
sorry
20
to
25
feet
and
any
patio
furniture
at
night
will
be
stacked
and
locked
up
against
the
building,
so
that
no
transients
or
anybody
would
be
there
at
night
using
that
patio
furniture
number
two
is
parking,
and
obviously
this
is
an
issue
all
over
the
lower
avenues
and
to
help
alleviate
the
parking
issues.
We've
changed
the
two
freight
load,
there's
two
freight
loading
parking
spaces
that
say
for
that.
J
Up
till
now
have
said
freight
license
required
on
them
and
that's
the
two
on
the
second
avenue
side
of
the
building.
So
on
the
right
side
of
that
image,
those
two
on
the
street
we've
changed.
Those
already
to
we've
submitted
the
changes,
so
it
should
be.
I
don't
know
how
long
did
they
say
it
would
be
about
a
month
before
they
go
up
and
they'll
be
30
minute
loading
unloading
driver
may
leave
vehicle
signs
so
that
customers
using
the
building
can
park
there.
J
A
lot
of
the
parking
gets
taken
from
the
elementary
school
parents
and
I
think
the
30
minute
limit
loading
and
unloading
will
discourage
that
those
spaces
from
going
to
them
will
be
helped
help
for
the
building
to
customers
for
to
use
those
there's
also
the
two
spaces
behind
the
building,
and
we
will
make
sure
at
least
one
of
those
at
all
times
is
available
for
customer
use.
I
know
that
the
tenant
has
used
the
other
one
and
uses
it
for
unloading
and
loading,
and
then
there's
also
a
space
in
the
front.
J
We've
also
purchased
a
bike
rack
and
it
holds
five
five
bicycles
and
that'll
be
located
in
the
park
strip.
That's
a
picture
of
our
cute
bike.
Rack
number
three
noise.
If
we,
as
we've
explained,
we
won't
allow
any
music
on
the
patio.
We
will
have
the
three
foot
by
fifteen
foot
trees
along
the
property
line.
Patio
will
close
at
nine
pm
and
during
business
hours.
J
We
we
think
the
noise
from
the
for
her
windows
on
that
on
her
building
should
be.
At
least
you
know,
voices
20
to
25
feet
away
worst
case
scenario,
and
I
think
it's
worth
noting
that
there
is
an
elementary
school
across
the
street
and
recess
happens
right
on
that
side.
On
our
side
of
that
that
block
so
there's
tons
of
screaming
kids
having
fun
out
there
all
the
time
it's
actually
really
cute.
J
So
it's
not
like
it's
a
completely
silent
corner
by
any
stretch
and
also
this
property,
because
it's
location
can't
have
a
liquor
license
ever
so.
There
won't
be
any
drunk
craziness
happening
on
that
patio
either.
It
should
be
relatively
quiet
and
calm
number.
Four,
the
mayor's
proclamation
the
neighbors
have
expressed
their
dislike
of
the
inexpensive
wood
picnic
style
tables
that
the
tenant
purchased
and
put
out
in
an
effort
to
financially
survive.
Cobia
19.
J
I
agree
that
they're
not
the
best
option.
They
were
temporary
fix,
as
kelsey
said
so
they'll
be
replaced.
We
purchased
a
new
steel
outdoor
garbage
can
to
put
permanently
out
in
front.
So
hopefully
we
won't
have
any
trash
being
dropped
in
any
neighbor's
yards
and
that
will
control
any
issues
that
might
happen
from
that
and
then
the
neighbors
have
also
expressed
concern
about
the
lack
of
plants
in
the
park
strip.
J
We
had
a
larger
landscaping
plan
that
was
supposed
to
happen
this
spring
and,
as
you
can
imagine
that
was
scrapped,
we
haven't
been
able
to
collect
full
rent
on
this
building
since
march,
so
we've
been
kind
of
trying
to
save
our
pennies
a
little
bit,
but
with
this
we
decided
we
better
get
out
there
and
take
care
of
that
right
away.
So
last
weekend,
josh
and
I
went
out
there
and
planted
the
new
plants
by
ourselves,
and
so
hopefully
the
neighbors
can
see
that
we're
serious
about
it.
J
We
want
it
to
look
nice
and
we
will
plant
more
and
make
sure
that
we're
that
it
looks
appropriate.
The
neighbors
are
pleased
with
it.
The
last
thing
the
neighbors
were
concerned
about
too
many
people
outside
on
the
property.
J
In
one
of
the
images
that
I
submitted
with
our
our
plan,
was
it
had
seating
for
18
up
to
18
people
right
now,
the
the
size
of
the
kitchen
at
that
building
is
really
small
and
they
have
no
way
to
support
18
people
outside.
I
think
it's
six
tables
or
seven
tables.
J
J
What
was
appropriate
at
that
for
that
to
use
current
use,
they
will
probably
only
have
two
three,
maybe
four
tables
at
the
most,
because
that's
not,
they
don't
have
the
kitchen
to
support
anything
else,
but
in
the
future,
if
it
was
a
a
tea
shop
or
something
where
there
was
not
a
lot
of
need
for
kitchen
space
and
a
few
people
out
there,
so
we
were
on
the
same
spot.
Was
it's
not
people
being
out
there
with
no
servers
and
mayhem?
J
J
We
have
small
high-end
restaurants,
drive-through
coffee
stand
a
laundromat,
a
preschool
two
churches,
cafes,
a
bank
elementary
school
apartment,
buildings,
round
shackle
homes
and
historic
mountains
within
three
blocks
of
this
little
market
and
cafe
we're
also
residents
here,
as
I
said,
and
as
the
planning
division
is
found.
We
feel
this
small
patio
area
is
compatible
with
its
eclectic
and
vibrant
surroundings,
but
we
truly
want
the
neighbors
to
know
that
we're
ready
and
willing
to
put
in
the
time
and
energy
to
make
this
work.
We
really
want
it
to
work
and
we're
hopefully
addressing
their
concerns.
J
E
E
J
So
the
areas
were
chosen
because
that's
the
buildable
area,
those
are
the
only
areas
that
would
be
available
for
patio
seating
in
in
the
future
going
forward.
I
wanted
to
have
those
lines
kind
of
drawn,
so
we
knew
where
what
what
was
available
to
use
and
for
future
tenants
what
they
could
use
and
what
was
appropriate
we
don't
have
like.
J
I
said
we
don't
have
any
plans
to
use
that
many
tables
at
this
point,
but
I
wanted
to
illustrate
on
the
image
what
what
could
fit
there
and
the
tables
have
to
be
abutted
against
the
building
on
both
the
north
side
and
the
south
side,
and
I
think
that
it's
probably
more
appropriate
to
have
little
two
tops
there.
You
know
two
two
person
tables-
and
I
think
in
this
case
right
now
for
this
tenant
for
this
use,
it
will
be
significantly
less
than
the
original
image.
J
D
J
For
many
years,
but
obviously
it
is
too
close
to
the
neighbor's
windows
and
presents
a
problem,
but
I
think
that
the
place
where
we
lined
it
up
at
16
feet
from
the
front
of
the
building.
I
think
it's
kind
of
more
of
a
reasonable
area.
A
J
E
J
K
G
E
E
L
L
J
If
we
have
a
36
inch
table,
that
would
probably,
in
truth,
be
three
seats
on
you
know
the
tables
up
against
the
wall.
There
would
be
three
seats
on
three
sides
up
in
front:
there's
room
for
four
seats
on
each
table
on
the
two
front
spaces
on
the
right
side
of
the
plan
there
there
would
just
be
two
tops,
so
just
be
two
seats
and
this
tenant
might
you
know
every
tenant
and
would
be
different,
but
I'm
assuming
many
tenants
might
just
want
a
couple
of
tables
with
two
people
at
them.
H
That
is
correct
due
to
covet
and
everything
going
on
delineating
the
area
where
the
use
could
actually
take
place,
given
the
change
in
restrictions
and
requirements
and
circumstances
is
the
best
going
forward
with
this
property.
Okay,.
C
So,
for
example,
along
the
north
side
of
the
building,
you
could
put
up
a
you
could
put
up
a
you
know,
a
one
and
a
half
foot
wide
bar,
I
don't
mean
bars,
you
know
board
and
put
some
bar
stools
underneath
it
and
call
that
a
seating
area
too.
So
it
might
have
five
people
there
or
ten
people
sitting
there
we're
not
we're,
not
dictators.
C
And
if
the
owner
gets
the
seating
approved
out
on
the
park
strip,
that
will
be
in
addition
to
what
we've
approved
so
there's
no
way
we
can
say:
oh
well,
you've
got
one
on
the
park,
so
if
you
can't,
therefore,
you
can't
have
one
in
front
of
the
building
now,
because
the
building
stuff
has
been
different
will
be,
will
have
been
approved
if
we
approve
it.
H
That
that
would
be
correct.
The
real
estate
services
would
have
the
right,
I
think,
to
limit
that
space
in
the
right-of-way
or
in
the
park
strip
to
designate
the
outdoor
dining
news
and
so
yeah.
C
C
Well,
you're
asking
for
a
special
exception
to
allow
outdoor
dining
in
specific
areas.
Yeah
set
has
that
those
specific
areas
or
anything
else
changed
from
from
what
you
showed
before
I
mean
you've
talked
about
accommodating
different
ideas
about
how
to
make
it.
You
know
better
easier,
but
so,
but
you
haven't
changed
the
size
or
the
dimensions
of
the
blue
areas
that
you
were
asking
for.
In
the
first
time,.
A
H
It
was
I
accidentally
put
9pm
when
it
was
initially
published,
and
I
noticed
the
mistake
and
put
it
back
up,
but
okay
last
wednesday,
I
believe
so
suzette's
last
project
description
notes
that
she's
willing
to
close
the
patio
at
8pm.
This
is
why
I
included
those
hours
11
a.m,
to
8
p.m.
Okay,
the
outdoor
dining
will
close.
A
H
A
And
then
my
other
question
for
the
applicant
you're
talking
to
the
department
of
real
estate
services
about
a
potential
seating
location
on
d
street.
Have
you
considered
moving
more
seating
to
second
avenue
along
the.
J
When
I
talked
to
the
neighbors,
the
neighbors
told
me
that
they
prefer
I
actually
wasn't
intending
on
using
the
park
strip
at
all,
but
the
neighbors
told
me
that
they
preferred
that
and
so
in
in
one
of
of
our
drawings.
I
said
I'll
move
one
of
these
tables
to
the
park
strip
in
front.
If,
if
it's
allowed-
and
I
start
I've
started-
you
know
conversations
with
the
city
on
that,
but
I
I
haven't
gotten
very
far
on
it.
J
E
G
A
Great
thanks,
john,
I
think
yeah
we
should
move
to
the
public
hearing
so
we'll
I'll
open
up
the
public
hearing
in
just
a
minute.
A
In
terms
of
time
to
comment,
we
allow
community
council
representatives
five
minutes
to
make
comments
during
the
public
hearing
and
we
allow
individuals
to
speak
for
up
to
two
minutes
and
if
we
do
try
to
respect
those
time
constraints,
so
everybody
has
an
opportunity
to
speak
and
again,
if
you
want
to
speak
john,
do
you
want
to
put
up
the
slide
with
how
people
can
submit
comments
again?
Just
so
they
see
that.
D
A
Okay,
we're
gonna
move
on
to
the
public
hearing
and
then
we'll
give
you
a
chance
to
respond
after
we
got
comments
from
the
public.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
A
Again,
if
you'd
like
to
speak
on
any
item
on
the
agenda,
you
can
email
your
comments
at
the
email
address
shown
on
the
screen,
where
you
can
raise
your
hand
and
john
or
michaela
will
call
on
you
and
you'll
have
two
minutes
in
which
to
speak
and
provide
comments
directly.
So
with
that
I'll
go
ahead
and
open
the
public
hearing,
do
we
have
anyone
from
the
community
council
who
wishes
to
speak?
Do
we
know.
G
I
don't
see
anybody
specifically
for
that.
I
have
three
hands
up
and
I
it
looks
like
they're
all
people
who
send
an
email,
so
I
don't
know
who
they
are,
but
we
could
ask
them
when
they,
okay,.
E
G
It
looks
like
the
first
person
I
have,
I'm
I'm
I'm
afraid.
I'm
gonna
put
your
name,
but
it's
sholey,
a
semi
sh.
Yes,
okay,
go
ahead
and
speak.
You
have
two
minutes.
I
Okay,
I
can't
see
myself
but
anyway,
so
I'm
the
owner
of
the
83
d
street
property
next
to
the
89
d
street.
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
we
have
petitions
from
about
like
30
people,
all
the
neighbors
across
second
avenue
d
street
c
street,
opposing
this
plan.
I
urge
you
to
before
making
a
decision
today.
I
want
you
to
please
go
and
read
that
petition.
Kelsey
has
a
copy.
I
have
the
new
copy
emailed
you
with
the
signatures
of
the
residents.
Please
hear
us
before
we
prove
this.
I
I
The
concrete
on
that
side
is
actually
on
the
dispute.
It's
not
it's,
not
legal,
because
historically,
that
was
a
yard.
It
was
france,
so
that
should
be
investigated.
The
second
thing
should
be
investigated,
as
one
of
the
council
members
said,
is
the
narrow,
narrow
sidewalks?
So
the
sidewalk
is
only
four
feet
when
you
put
tables
in
front
or
on
the
side.
What
is
the
legal
clearance?
Actually
I
looked
at
the
city
ordinances.
You
need
to
have
six
foot
to
ten
foot
ordinance.
This
is
not
a
patio.
I
This
is
where
somewhere
people
can
sit
without
any
monitoring
of
who
is
sitting
there.
We
have
random
people,
know
that
we
have
these
chairs
random
people
sitting
there.
It's
not
being
clean.
Having
so
many
people
over
there,
it's
not
unfair
to
the
environment,
to
the
neighbors
and
nobody
wants
it.
None
of
the
neighbors
want
this,
and
so
that
knows
that
I
I
appreciate
all
they.
Do
we
really
really
like
this
restaurant?
We
want
them
to
succeed,
but
we
want
them
to
keep
the
history
of
the
building
as
it
is.
I
There
was
never
a
patio
when
I
bought
this
property
15
years
ago.
There
was
not
a
patio,
it
was
a
market
and
an
indoor
restaurant.
So
this
is
changing
the
history
of
the
building.
I'm
asking
you
to
please
wait
on
this.
Ask
the
historic
people
as
the
look
at
the
zoning
look
at
the
clearances
from
the
look
at
the
safety.
I
Anybody
can
sit
there.
We
had
people
with
dogs
sitting
there.
Yesterday
I
have
seen
I
had
people
have
time:
yes,
okay,
so
anyway,
I
just
want
you
to.
Please
read
the
petition.
Please
listen
to
us.
We
want
the
restaurant
to
operate.
We
want
them
to
succeed.
We
love
our
neighbors,
but
I
want
them
to
respect
our
privacy.
Our
security
as
well.
G
Okay,
it
looks
like
the
next
hand
I
have
up
is
for
william
littig.
William
did
you?
You
have
two
minutes
to
pry
comment.
M
Thank
you.
I
regret
that
I
have
to
start
by
saying
that
as
a
immediate
neighbor
for
40
years
that
another
person
could
speak
for
me,
in
my
opinion,
is
offensive
this
property.
I
again,
I
have
lived
one
house
away
for
40
years.
It
was
a
small
property
that
was
originally
owned
by
a
japanese
woman.
Alice
desai
runs
a
small
store.
Then
the
matawala
family
ran
it
as
an
indian
market.
Later
they
converted
the
building
to
become
a
restaurant
inside
and
continue
to
sell
some
indian
food
and
had
a
travel
agency.
M
Now
the
new
owner
came
in.
They
immediately
defoliated
all
of
the
rose
bushes
that
the
matawa
family
had
put
in
leaving
three
trees
and
graveled
the
whole
front
yard.
Only
after
my
complaint
did
they
come
in
and
put
in
the
minimum
amount
of
planting
for
them.
To
tell
me
now
that
last
saturday's
planting
makes
things
better.
It
is
not.
They
do
not
have
six
feet
in
the
front
of
this
building
from
the
building
to
the
sidewalk.
M
M
Trust
me,
I
live
across
the
street
from
a
school,
but
the
children's
voices
are
much
better
and
well
received
than
than
the
people
in
there
now
every
night
we
see
these
two
small
complying,
I'm
sorry
non-compliant
seats
being
used.
There
is
no
hours
on
them.
There
is
no
cleaning
of
them
and,
as
they've
been
there
for
two
months,
if
this
is
an
example
of
what
we
could
expect
forever,
then
please
disallow
this.
This
use.
M
G
That
we
have
a
few
more
I'm
going
to
start
back
at
the
top
here,
joe
lloyd.
K
All
right:
well,
I
live
right
across
the
street
to
the
north
of
this
little
place
and
I've
lived
here
for
35
years
and
as
willie
was
saying,
people
have
owned
it
and
but
it
hasn't
really
been
too
much
of
a
problem.
K
Now
to
me,
I
wish
you
all
would
come
up
here
and
walk
down
that
sidewalk
on
the
north
side,
as
one
of
you
were
asking
about
that,
there's
no
way
you
can
put
tables
there
and
allow
people
to
walk
by
without
infringing
on
the
people
that
are
eating
there,
as
well
as
the
people
that
have
to
walk
by
all
the
time.
So
that's
one
point.
K
The
other
point
is
the
parking
she
did
mention
that
the
bus
stops
there
when
the
bus
stops
here,
it
takes
up
the
whole
building
the
length
of
the
bus,
stop
to
drop
people
off
and
pick
people
up,
and
it
takes
up
the
whole
building.
There
are
no
two
parkings
there
and
that's
my
base
kind
of
when
you
buy
a
home
on
the
avenues
you
are
given
parking.
K
They
don't
allow
us
to
make
driveways
parking
anymore,
so
the
parking
in
front
of
my
home
when
people
park
there
and
I
come
home
and
I
can't
get
in
and
I'm
paying
for
it
for
a
parking
pass
to
park
there.
Even
though
it's
in
front
of
my
own
home,
I
you
know
I'm
paying
for
them
to
make
money
across
the
street.
K
It's
the
real
problem
up
here.
We
get
a
lot
of
people
from
the
city
that
worked
out
there
and
they'll
park
up
here
all
week,
not
even
take
their
cars
home
at
night.
They
leave
them.
Our
streets
are
lined
with
them.
So
that
is
a
the
parking
to
me
is
a
real
thing
and
if
they
get
at
too
many
tables
and
too
many
people,
we
already
have
had
several
near
accidents
here,
because
people
come
around
and
go
the
wrong
way
on
second
avenue
and
park
right
there,
time
drop
off
and
pick
up
so
okay.
K
Yes,
I'm
pam
group
athletic.
Can
you
hear
me.
K
K
K
A
K
G
Comments,
it
looks
like
the
next
one
is
sandal
bricks.
G
D
So
yeah
I'm
at
79d
street.
I
also
sent
you
guys
an
email,
so
just
disregard
that,
but
I
just
my
my
deal
is
I'm
concerned
about
parking.
I'm
just
gonna,
pretty
much
echo
what
everybody
else
said,
but
parking
is
already
a
pain
in
front
of
our
house.
D
Those
tables
people
will
come
and
sit
there
with
their
dogs,
and
I
have
a
dog
as
well,
and
I
literally
have
to
walk
across
the
street
to
walk
my
dog
to
even
go
up
towards
the
the
higher
avenues
to
avoid
the
the
dogs
that
are
sitting
at
those
tables.
So
that's
kind
of
a
pain
for
me.
I'm
concerned
about
who's
gonna
monitor
the
area
at
nighttime.
D
When
you
know
the
business
is
closed.
I've
already
witnessed
people
sleeping
out
there.
You
know,
and
if
you
have
more
tables
down
that
alleyway,
that's
just
going
to
give
them
a
darker,
more
secluded
place
for
random
people
to
sleep.
So
that's
that's
a
concern
for
me
and
then
what
about
you
know
all
the
trash
we've
seen
trash
already
left
out
there.
No
one's
really
monitoring
that
area.
The
business
owners
once
they're
done.
D
They
go
home
and
trash
gets
left
out,
there's
not
trash
cans
out
there,
so
those
are
really
my
biggest
concerns
and
and
and
honestly
just
from
walking
by
that
alleyway.
It
literally
is
looks
right
into
chalet's
house,
and
I
I
have
an
alleyway
on
the
side
of
my
house,
and
I
would
I
know
personally.
If
I
had
tables
sitting
out
there,
I
would
not
feel
comfortable
ever
while
being
home,
and
so
that's
that's
kind
of
my
big
thing,
so
I
I
say
decline
it.
D
G
And
the
last
I
do
have
some
the
email
as
well,
but
the
last
person
that
I
see
with
their
hand
up
would
be
zachary,
dusal,
zack,
sorry,
I
I'm
usually
doing
on
youtube
how
about
right?
Now,
I'm
sorry!
All
right
am
I
good
now.
D
Okay,
zachary
salt
speak
in
favor
of
the
application.
I
think
all
of
the
concerns
that
people
have
have
made
against
this
proposal
have
been
adequately
addressed
by
either
the
recommendations
of
the
staff
or
the
updates.
The
proposal
that
the
applicant
has
resubmitted.
D
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
the
benefits
of
outdoor
dining
they're,
very
beneficial
in
adding,
what's
known
as
eyes
on
the
street,
where
patrons
that
are
patronizing,
that
business
provide
a
extra
layer
of
security
and
basically
surveillance
of
the
neighborhood
by
being
passed
by
in
places
that
would
not
normally
receive
outdoor
traffic,
so
it
encourages
pedestrian
utilization
of
the
area.
It
encourages
alternative
uses
of
transportation.
D
My
only
concern
was
the
loss
of
potential
bike
parking
which
looks
like
it
was
on
that
north
or
that
south
side
there,
but
I'm
glad
that
the
owner
addressed
that
and
is
replacing
that
what
appears
to
be
a
bike
rack
with
a
bike
rack
in
the
park
strip.
D
So
I'd
urge
the
commission
to
approve
this
proposal
and
just
remind
them
that
there's
a
reason
why
you
are
a
political
body
and
not
subject
to
voters
and
should
take
policy
good
policy
and
make
that
a
priority
instead
of
complaints
of
residence.
Thank
you.
B
John
leonard
black
has
a
check
mark
like
has
a
yes
instead
of
a
hand.
B
G
So
manager,
if
you
like,
I
can
go
through
the
emails
that
have
been
come
through.
Okay,
great.
G
First
is
from
ryan
kendrick:
I'm
writing
regards
the
special
exception
to
your
quest
for
89
north
d
street.
If
possible.
Please
read
this
statement
as
I'm
able
to
attend.
I
want
to
stay
to
begin
with
I'm
a
supporter
of
small
business.
I
want
them
to
succeed,
especially
during
these
difficult
times.
Any
business
looking
to
expand
and
invest
in
their
community
should
be
applauded
after
this
location's
not
vacant
for
numerous
years.
We're
excited
to
have
new
neighbors.
G
However,
I'm
opposed
to
the
proposed
exception,
because
I
believe
this
property
in
the
surrounding
neighborhood
is
not
designed
for
this
location
to
double
its
overall
customer
capacity.
First
already,
its
current
capacity
piles
garbage
are
constantly
left
thrown
outside
the
back
door
of
the
shop
visible
to
pedestrians
and
street
traffic.
Garbage
cans
are
often
overflowing
is
not
appealing
what
will
happen
when
capacity
doubles?
Will
they
all
of
a
sudden
start
taking
care
of
the
garbage
results
from
the
higher
volume?
I
doubt
it
number
two.
G
I
do
not
believe
that
the
addition
of
this
much
outdoor
dining
will
be
positive
for
the
neighborhood,
too
bulky
unattractive,
unpainted,
unfinished
picnic
tables
have
already
been
placed
in
front
of
the
building.
They
do
not
look
appealing
and
they
do
not
enhance
the
neighborhood.
I'm
concerned
that
this
is
the
level
of
quality
of
improvements.
The
property
owners
either
did
themselves
or
allow
their
tenants
to
do.
G
The
current
tables
are
not
attractive,
and
this
gives
me
concern
about
the
quality
and
of
improvements
that
we
made
to
the
outdoor
dining
and
whether
they
would
add
or
detract
from
the
neighborhood
three.
The
space
directly
to
the
south
of
the
store
between
the
store
and
83
d
street
does
not
provide
sufficient
space.
Bedroom
windows
are
right
against
the
fence,
and
my
understanding
is
that,
according
this
request,
people
would
be
allowed
on
the
patio
from
the
start
of
business
until
sundown
seven
days
a
week.
It
sounds
like
a
disaster
waiting
to
happen.
G
I'm
aware,
for
example,
the
neighbor's
next
avenue's
bistro
on
third
excuse
me
guys.
They
have
frequently
complained
about
the
noise
coming
from
the
bistro's
outdoor
patio.
Our
neighbors
at
83
d
street
would
be
even
closer
to
the
diners
than
the
situation
avenues
bistro
as
a
positive
example.
Public
on
third
is
an
example
of
what
I
believe
is
a
better
way
to
do
it.
All
cds
in
front
of
the
store
tables
are
small
in
good
quality
and
there's
a
very
large
buffer
between
the
tables
and
neighbors.
G
They
also
have
on-site
parking
or
a
small
corner
shop
in
area
zone
residential
is
not
designed
for
businesses.
With
this
much
capacity,
this
shop
is
located
in
a
one-way
road.
Next
to
a
bus,
stop
with
no
street
parking
allowed
kitty
corner
to
elementary
school.
Let's
assume
a
restaurant
turns
tables
every
hour
on
a
busy
friday
or
saturday
night,
like
a
potential
result
in
80
cars
trying
to
find
parking
on
our
street,
assuming
two
people
per
car
and
four
hours
of
busy
time
when
the
cathedral,
the
madeleine
or
the
thomas
swanson
center
have
an
event.
G
Parking
is
already
a
mess.
This
could
make
that
worse.
I
want
to
state
that
I'm
100
in
favor
of
temporary
exceptions
allowing
any
business
to
adapt
to
our
current
pandemic,
which
requires
social,
distancing,
outdoor
dining
etc,
but
I'm
not
in
favor
of
proving
this
outdoor
dining
exception
on
a
permanent
basis.
G
She
says
I
would
like
to
put
forward
my
thoughts
and
opposition
on
the
matter
of
creating
an
outdoor,
dining
restaurant
on
the
corner
of
d
street
and
second
avenue.
I
live
just
south
of
this
building
on
d
street
and
one
of
my
main
objectives.
Objections
to
this
proposal
is
the
parking
on
the
west
side
of
d.
There
is
controlled
resident
permitted
parking
and
this
parking
lot
for
two
hours
without
the
permit.
On
the
east
side,
there
is
open
parking
on
other
side
of
the
street
between
second
and
first
avenue.
G
There
are
three
living
structures:
they
do
not
have
off
street
parking
connected
with
their
buildings.
One
is
a
family
home,
owning
three
vehicles,
another's
rental
housing
with
four
cars
and
on
the
southeast
corner,
there's
an
eight
apartment
unit
that
has
only
one
off
street
parking
space.
These
people
deserve
to
have
a
place
to
park
their
cars
also
kitty
corner.
This
restaurant
proposes
the
open
classroom
school.
The
parents
and
students
should
be
able
to
park
close
for
their
schooling.
G
G
The
way
it's
been
since
the
first
door
has
opened
has
either
been
a
small
market
or
small
deli
business.
I
enjoy
the
commerce
on
our
little
corner,
but
I'm
strongly
opposed
having
people
come
and
hang
around
rather
than
quickly
stopping
by
and
leaving.
Please
consider
my
concerns
as
strong
opposition
about
this
for
making
your
decision
yours,
susan
black,
the
next
I
have
three
more.
The
next
one
is
I'm
from
I'm
gonna
butcher.
This
I'm
sorry.
This
name,
soy
hail,
tati,
dear
sully
city,
county
commissioners.
G
My
name
is
soy
tatchiki
and
I
live
at
83
d
street.
My
property
is
adjacent
to
89
d
street,
where
the
owner
of
the
property
is
proposing
outdoor
seating
and
six
tables
and
18
seats.
The
name
patio
is
confusing
because
it
applies
to
be
supervised
areas.
A
part
of
the
main
building
in
this
case
tables
will
be
placed
around
the
building,
either
in
a
public
area
or
in
close
proximity
to
my
house
and
open
space.
G
There
will
be
no
waiters
and
no
monitoring
of
who
would
be
using
the
tables
and
for
how
long
there
also
be
no
monitoring
of
the
clumminess
of
the
tables
in
the
area.
This
is
in
addition
to
the
fact
that
the
restaurant
has
no
customer
parking.
The
two
parking
spots
in
the
back
of
the
building
are
being
used
by
the
tenants,
24
7.
as
a
resident
of
the
atmosphere.
20
years,
I
am
all
for
small
business.
We've
had
a
friendly
relationship
with
the
business
of
89
d
street.
G
We
have
often
directly
talked
to
the
tenant
about
issues
like
smelly,
garbage,
loud
noise
after
hours,
lights
from
the
cars
at
one
or
two
am
and
never
filed
a
complaint
against
them.
When
we
purchased
this
property
in
2005,
the
building
was
owned
by
marshall
montewalla
as
indian
marketing
grill.
It
was
an
indoor
market
and
restaurant
and
never
had
a
patio.
The
current
owner
of
89d
street,
not
the
renters,
wants
to
put
six
tables
around
the
restaurant
three,
which
will
be
on
the
south
side
less
than
six
feet
from
my
bedroom
window.
G
The
six
foot
proposed
by
the
owner
will
not
provide
privacy
or
protection
from
noise
or
smell.
The
tables
will
not
be
monitored
for
who
would
sit
there
for
cleanliness.
This
poses
numerous
problems
for
me
as
the
immediate
neighbor
and
for
the
whole
neighborhood.
It
would
be
up
to
the
neighbors
to
constantly
contact
the
authorities
with
violations.
G
Putting
this
burden
on
the
neighbors
is
not
fair
at
all.
The
current
business
has
put
two
penny
tables
in
front
of
the
restaurant
for
the
past
five
to
six
weeks
with
no
permit
no
signs,
no
garbage
can
and
no
adequate
cleaning.
So
far,
there's
been
no
visit
from
the
city
and
no
warning
on
how
the
tables
are
being
kept.
There've
been
random
people
hanging
out
smoking,
sleeping
in
the
benches
and
as
well
as
people,
dogs,
food
and
garbage
have
been
left
on.
The
tables
proposed
patty
was
changing
the
character
and
use
of
the
historic
building.
G
There
was
never
a
patio
in
100
years
of
use
of
the
building
and
15
years
ago,
when
we
purges
this
house
tables
in
the
front
and
north
will
not
have
enough
clearance
from
the
sidewalk
tables
on
the
south
will
be
on
a
legally
paved
car
concrete
and
in
very
close
proximity
to
our
bedroom
windows.
The
unmonitored
sitting
will
be
helped
and
safety
hazard
for
the
neighborhood.
I'm
asking
the
county
commission
planning
commission
members
to
put
the
well-being
and
safety
of
the
neighborhood
above
the
business
interests
of
the
owner
of
89
d
street.
G
With
all
respect
she
is
not
operating.
The
restaurant
that
permit
for
an
outdoor
patio
is
going
to
increase
the
capacity
of
the
restaurant
by
18
people
and
will
increase
the
value
and
render
for
commercial
property.
This
will
come
with
a
huge
cost
for
me
as
the
immediate
neighbor
and
for
the
whole
neighborhood.
Please
note
that
we
are
not
opposed
to
temporary
measures
to
help
the
restaurant
during
covet
19
pandemic.
G
However,
the
proposed
patio
is
not
a
coveted
measure,
but
a
permanent
business
decision
by
the
owner
to
increase
the
value
and
rent
the
current
restaurant
six
full
tables
inside
that
were
used
for
dining
customers
even
to
the
restaurant.
A
couple
of
times
business
can
thrive
if
they
do
not
lock
the
door
and
let
the
takeout
customers
pick
up
food
from
inside
the
restaurant.
I
urge
applying
commissioners
to
please
do
not
allow
this
expansion.
This
request
will
not
add
at
all
to
the
neighborhood.
G
In
fact,
almost
all
the
neighborhoods
oppose
this
plan
and
has
signed
a
petition
against
it
for
various
reasons.
In
my
case,
in
addition,
all
health
and
safety
concerns-
I
was
my
privacy
in
the
quiet
enjoyment
of
my
house.
Immediate
noise
and
crowd
will
appreciate
the
value
of
my
houses.
No
one
wants
to
live
with
people
chatting
and
dining
under
their
bedroom
window.
Please
see
the
attached
pictures.
G
A
I
I
was
sitting
here
talking
to
myself,
don't
worry
about
me,
so
I
will
go
ahead.
Thank
you,
john.
I
will
go
ahead
and
close
the
public
hearing
I'll
ask
the
applicants
to
come
back
and
give
them
an
opportunity
to
respond
to
some
of
the
commentaries
during
the
public
hearing,
as
well
as
any
additional
questions
from
the
commissioners.
E
Well,
I
mean
we
have.
We
have
spoken
to
them
about
the
picnic
tables,
and
I
know
that
they
were
just
a
temporary,
the
wooden
temp.
They
were
just
wooden
tables
that
they
put
there
because
they
were,
they
didn't
know
what
was
going
to
happen.
So
we
tried
to
address
that
those
would
be
a
much
higher
end
table
that
would
then
be
put
away
and
stacked,
and
the
tables
and
chairs
would
be
stacked
and
put
away.
J
At
night
at
night,
so
that
and
the
wood
as
they
stand,
they
can't
be
put
away.
They're
heavy
the
seats
are
included
with
the
table,
you
know
kind
of
that
old
fashioned
type
thing
and
they
can't
be
moved.
They
were
inexpensive
and
it
was
something
that
the
tenant
could
afford
during
covet
times,
but
obviously
that
goes
away.
We've
already
addressed
that.
I
also
wanted
to
just
point
out
the
one
positive
comment
from
zachary:
we
live.
J
J
I
understand
their
feelings
on
that,
but
it
is
pretty
great
because
I
never
have
to
worry
about
any
packages
being
stolen
from
fedex
or
ups,
because
there's
people
out
on
the
street
and
sitting
in
tables
across
the
street
from
my
house,
it's
actually
been
really
really
nice
to
live
across
the
street
and,
I
would
say
the
house
next
door
to
me
that's
directly
across
the
street.
J
I
think
that
parking
is
there's
is
the
two
spaces
behind
the
bus
stop
the
signs
are
there.
Currently
I
took
pictures
of
it
today
and
the
city
is
changing
those
two
signs,
so
that
would
add
to
two
more
spaces
that
are
not
currently
there,
and
then
we
have
two
spaces
behind
the
building,
one
of
which
I
have
been
allowing
the
tenant.
I've
told
the
tenant.
J
She
keeps
it,
but
I
I'm
happy
to
say:
tenant
needs
to
park
elsewhere
as
well
and
put
two
spaces
behind
our
building
for
parking
as
far
as
the
next
door.
Neighbor
it
it's
a
challenge,
but
we
it's
not
it's
quite
a
distance.
It's,
I
think
at
least
20
feet
before
you
would
hit
the
first
table
and
we're
happy
to
cut
out
that
concrete
and
put
in
the
trees
and
make
a
visual
screen
and
then,
as
kelsey
said,
she,
she
recommended
that
the
patio
be
closed.
J
At
eight-
and
I
think
that
would
be
just
fine
too-
we
don't
wanna,
see
loitering,
but
I
do
think
it's
great
to
have
people
present
and
that's
been
our
experience
living
across
the
street
from
the
cafe
here.
E
C
I
have
a
question:
it's
the
front
of
this
store.
The
area
that
would
be
there
available
for
seating
is
quite
uneven
and
sloped.
How
do
you
plan
to
accommodate
that
in
a
seating
area?
Are
you
going
to
make
a
a
flattened
area?
How
is
that
going
to
work
on.
J
The
if
you're,
looking
at
the
front
of
the
building
on
the
right
side,
it's
relatively
flat
but
on
the
left
side,
there's
a
six
inch
slope
from
where
the
front
door
is
to
the
end
of
the
building
kelsey,
and
I
have
briefly
discussed
that,
and
I
would
like
to
flatten
that
with
some
concrete
if
possible.
So
there
would
be
one
six
inch
step
down.
You
know
on
on
the
far
end
of
the
building
on
that
south
southeast
corner.
J
Right
now
it
works
because
that
that
picnic
table
monstrosity
is
all
one
unit,
but
with
individual
chairs
and
pixels
it'll
be
a
smaller
unit.
But
I
still
think
I
might
need
to
flatten
that
out
a
little
bit
so
that
that
has
been
something
I've
been
looking
at
and.
H
C
F
I
have
a
question
for
the
applicant
and
also
for
for
kelsey.
As
far
as
the
the
stackable
chairs
that
were
mentioned
previously,
will
those
chairs
slash
tables
be
kept
indoors
or
would
they
be
left
out
next
to
the
building
overnight?.
J
I
think
that
we
could
do
it
either
way.
I
think
it
we're.
J
Yeah,
I
think
that
if
for
the
new
six
foot
fence
that
would
go
across
between
the
two
properties,
we'll
put
a
locked
gate
there,
so
they
could
be
pulled
behind
the
gate
either
back
there,
instead
of
having
to
lock
them
up,
which
is
kind
of
a
pain.
I
think
that
would
be.
The
easiest
solution
is
to
just
pull
them
off
of
the
seating
area
and
put
them
behind
the
lock
gate.
J
F
Thank
you
and
the
question
for
kelsey
as
well.
What
is
the
the
actual
distance
and
feet
between
the
the
wooden
fence?
That's
been
spoken
of
before
and
the
edge
of
the
of
the
of
the
building
in
the
application?
How
many
feet
are
there?
F
E
I
A
Yeah:
okay,
thank
you,
suzette
and
josh.
Thank.
A
Bring
the
discussion
back
to
the
commission:
how
are
people
feeling
what
what
are
what
are
our
thoughts.
C
Here,
I'm
really
happy
to
see
that
the
applicant
has
seriously
addressed
the
neighborhood's
concerns,
but
I
also
tend
to
believe
that
this
is
not
actually
compatible
with
this
building
and
its
site
location
because
of
the
scale
of
the
building
its
its
position
on
the
site.
C
It
makes
to
a
very
awkward
arrangement,
I
think,
is
going
to
be
very
difficult
to
be
there
without
in
having
a
direct
influence
on
pedestrian
activity
around
this
corner,
meaning
negatively
impact
pedestrian
activity.
So
so
I'm
concerned
that
it
does
not
comply
with
some
of
the
standards
that
we
have.
C
We
have
some
the
standards
that
we
have
to
review
this
by
have
to
do
with
impairment
of
property
value,
adverse
impact
on
the
character
and
public
health,
safety
and
general
welfare.
C
Especially
impeding
pedestrian
or
vehicular
traffic
and
and
so
forth,
so
I'm
on
of
the
mind
that
this
is
perhaps
not
an
appropriate.
I
love
outdoor
dining.
I
agree
that
it
can
be
attractive
in
many
ways,
but
this
has
been
a
market
for
a
very
long
time
and
also
an
indoor
restaurant
and
I
think,
that's
a
great
use,
but
I
don't.
I
don't
see
us
adding
substantial
benefit
to
the
neighborhood
with
this
and
potentially
pretty
adverse
impact.
With
this
proposal.
A
So
brenda
does,
does
your
do
your
comments
apply
to
each
of
the
areas
where
they
proposed
or
is
your
thought
that
if
they
limited
it
to
perhaps
maybe
just
the
front
that
would
ameliorate
some
of
your
concerns?
I.
C
Think
if
they
limited
to
the
front
and
that
might
ameliorate
the
concerns,
because
there's
a
little
bit
more
room
there
right,
but
also
I'm
I'm,
I'm
also
in
kind
of
an
agreement
of
them
of
an
outdoor
seating
area
of
something
that's
usually
policed,
monitored
served
by
the
restaurant.
It's
not
sort
of
a
free-for-all
place
to
sit
down.
E
I
don't
think
I
really
have
concerns
about
the
fronts
outdoor
side
and
I
probably
could
get
there
on
this.
On
the
south
side,
the
north
side
seems
like
it's
really
crammed
in
there.
I've
got
like
looking
at
a
map
and
all
the
directions,
and
I
can
read
my
my
market
is
right,
which
I'm
really
embarrassed
about,
but
I
mean
I
I
I
feel
fine
with
it
at
the
in
the
front,
and
even
I
don't
know
what
the
rules
are
not
so
even
they
were
extended
some
out
of
the
park
strip.
E
You
know
during
certain
times,
but
certainly
the
north
side
along
2nd
avenue
seemed
problematic.
To
me,
it
just
seems
like
a
tiny
little
spy
and
you're
just
people
are
going
to
sit
in
different
spots.
It's
not
going
to
be
as
easy
on
the
patio
side
I
mean,
I
guess
I'd
be
up
for
discussion.
You
know
side
of
the
south
on
where
other
commissioners
were,
and
I
think
they
can
do
things
to
kind
of
mitigate
it,
whether
or
not
they
really
need
it
or
not.
I'm
not
really
convinced.
There's
like
a
restaurant
plan.
E
You
know
what
they
really
need.
It
or
not
to
make
it
an
actual
space,
or
it
was
just
kind
of
you-
know
an
actual
space
that
has
character
and
add
something
or
it's
just
kind
of
air,
that's
kind
of
where
I
guess
we're,
but
I'm
okay,
with
the
drop
by
tables
out
front.
G
G
You
it's
from
leonard
black.
Actually
we
tried
to
get
all
this,
so
he
says
I
would
like
to
express
my
opposition
to
the
idea
of
allowing
outdoor
dining
at
the
restaurant
on
the
corner
of
d
street
and
second
avenue.
My
objection
is
two
full.
The
first
has
already
been
covered
the
parking
issue.
My
second
objection
is
in
regard
to
the
violation
of
our
neighborhood
as
a
historic
district.
G
I
have
dealt
with
the
historic
preservation
office
on
several
occasions
in
an
effort
to
upgrade
my
private
residence
on
d
street
and,
in
every
case,
met
heavy
opposition.
I
cannot
believe
that
historic
preservation
office
would
approve
of
these
editions
in
our
neighborhood
and
question
whether
they
have
been
asked
for
approval.
Please
consider
this
possible
violation
of
the
provisions
provided
our
neighborhood
reservation,
sincerely
leonard
black.
A
H
The
historic
landmark
commission
does
not
have
purview
over
the
use.
That's
why
it's
before
planning
commission,
the
stafford
staff
would
administratively
approve
any
sort
of
site
improvements.
Those
aren't
considered
a
major
alteration
that
would
require
historic,
landmark
commission
approval,
so
that
would
just
be
kept
at
an
administrative
level,
generally
fencing
landscaping
minor
alterations
to
contributing
structures,
railing
new
flat
work,
that's
all
at
a
staff
level.
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
B
Might
I
just
add
to
the
preservation,
like
a
higher
level
point
about
the
community
preservation
plan?
Is
that,
like
retention
of
these
historic
buildings
within
the
avenues
coupled
with
planned
salt
lake,
that
speaks
to
diverse
place,
making
within
our
neighborhoods
there's
a
lot
of
policy
concerning
like
place,
making
diversity
abuses,
retention
of
of
historic
buildings
that
the
planning
commission
may
want
to
keep
in
mind
during
this
discussion?.
E
E
Difficult,
I
think
that
that
whole
side
of
the
building's
a
little
narrow,
but
I
do
think
that
that
south
side
is
kind
of
primed
for
seating.
E
I
even
think
that
the
the
strip
between
the
curb
and
the
sidewalk
next
to
the
road
is
actually
fairly
large
and
could
lend
itself,
maybe
even
more.
D
A
L
B
F
I
actually
have
the
same
sentiment
myself.
I
think
I
love
small
businesses.
I
think
they
do
great
work.
This
particular
plan,
I
think
is,
is
a
very
good
one,
but
those
those
constraints
that
I
kind
of
feel
are
causing
some
adverse
if
impacts
would
be
better,
I
think
addressed
if
it
was
temporary
too.
I
had
that
same
similar
line
of
thinking.
A
A
A
C
Okay,
so
is
it
make
any
sense
for
us?
Is
there
any
way
that
we
can
put
a
condition
on
that
has
to
do
with
the
owner
and
or
the
tenant,
or
both
being
responsible
for
making
sure
that
there
are
that
these
that
these
can
at
this
well,
the
conditions,
obviously,
but
other
conditions
like
trash
or
vagrancy
or
or
just
just
undesirable
activity
going
on
there?
Can
they
be
made
responsible
for
that
happening
and
read
and
it
be
revoked
under
those
situations.
G
I
mean,
I
think,
with
some
things
like
cleanliness
is
one
thing
I
I
think
it's
tough
to
define
vagrancy
or
I
mean
to
say
who
can
or
cannot
sit
there.
I
think
that
would
be
a
little
bit
more
difficult
to
put
into
a
condition
I
mean
there's.
Certainly
we
could
add
additional
conditions
above
and
beyond
what
kelsey
has
already
outlined,
but
I
think
we
want
to
make
sure
that
they
are
worded
in
a
way
that
they're
in
that
they're
easily
enforceable
for
us,
and
so
some
of
them
are
just.
G
A
E
P
Yeah
what
michaela
just
said?
That's
exactly
what
I
was
going
to
say.
I
believe
you
can
include
that
as
a
condition,
but
enforcement
is
a
whole
other.
C
One
of
the
one
of
the
other
concerns
I
have
about
the
southern
dining
is
that
it's
completely
invisible
from
inside
the
store
yeah,
so
the
area
is
not
served
by
waiters
or
anybody,
and
it's
also
not
visible
from
inside
the
store.
So
no
matter
one
one
would
not
even
during
business
hours.
You
would
not
know
what
was
going
on
there
at
any
given
time
and
that's
true
on
the
north
side
as
well.
The
only
part
that's
actually
visible
from
inside
the
store
is
right
in
front
of
the
store.
C
I'm
I'm
I'm
also
convinced
by
one
of
the
citizens
about
the
capacity
that
this
restaurant
has
or
this
building
has
in
a
sense,
it's
historic
capacity.
It's
been
a
small
business
in
the
business
has
been
limited
by
the
square
footage
of
the
bill
thing
now
we
add,
you
know
additional
great,
greatly,
add
double
city
of
seating
in
that
in
that,
in
that
place
of
business,
I
think
we're
having
an
impact
on
the
neighborhood
that
we
need
to
recognize
both
in
in
many
many
ways.
F
Yeah
I
have
a
similar
sentiment
too.
I
I
feel
a
lot
more
comfortable
if
it
was
in
the
front,
I
think
the
front
seating
makes
perfect
sense
for
for
a
diner
like
this.
You
know
if
it
was
just
a
front.
I'd
be
all
definitely
for
in
favor
of
the
applicant.
L
In
the
motion
to
approve
where
there
are
already
conditions
listed,
can
the
the
conditions
include
the
tables
being
taken
up
a
night?
I
mean
I
know
they
pledge
to
do
that,
but
is
that
something
that
can
be
in
the
recommendation?
So
it's
more
formal
and
can
we
also
recommend
not
the
spaces
on
the
south.
A
We
we
can,
we
can
make
a
motion
limiting
the
location
of
the
outdoor
timing
as
to
what's
been
proposed,
I'll
ask
michaela
on
the
requirement
to
remove
the
tables
each
evening.
Is
that
also
an
enforcement
issue
that
raises
concerns
on
the
city
side
or
is
that,
from
the
city's
perspective,
a
reasonable
condition.
E
B
If
I
think
of
the
third
avenue
bistro
special
exception,
they
certainly
that
requirement
wasn't
necessarily
put
on
on
that
sort
of
operation.
They
had
more
like
fencing
and
kind
of
blocked
it
off,
so
that
folks
couldn't
just
meander
in
there.
A
But
that
seating
area
is
tucked
back
in
and
if
we're
talking
about
a
seating
area,
that's
literally
right
off
the
sidewalk
and
potentially
within
the
public
right-of-way,
I
think
that's.
The
issue
is
different,
meaning
if
the
tables
are
left
out,
then
it's
more
likely
that
folks
will
find
a
way
and
sit
there
after
hours.
B
G
Monitor
what
I
can
do,
I
can
actually
just
mute
her
rather
than
make
them
a
panelist
again.
So
that's.
E
G
So
let
me
see
suzette,
can
you
hear
us
right
now.
J
So
I
think
it's
really
easy
to
remove
all
the
chairs.
That's
no
big
deal
the
tables
they
would
be
concerned
about
being
stolen,
so
they
would
lock
them
up.
Obviously,
but
would
your
concern
be
about
tables
in
addition
to
chairs?
J
Sometimes
most
you
know
at
the
at
the
bistro
and
at
the
cafe
across
the
street
at
public
coffee
they
just
they
remove.
They
stack
all
the
chairs
and
lock
them
together
and
in
our
case
we
could
absolutely
just
take
them
off,
but
moving
you
know.
Tables
is
a
little
more
problematic,
but
if
that's
you
know
what
it
takes,
we
could
do
that.
Are
you
concerned
about
the
tables
also
or
just
the
chairs.
J
A
C
A
A
All
right,
so
I
think
we've
discussed
those
in
every
which
way,
shape
and
form.
A
A
E
Okay,
so
based
like
a
monetarily
expected
based
on
the
information,
the
staff
report,
the
information
presented
in
the
input
received
in
public
hearing
planning
approved
pln
pcm
2020578
commissions
listed
in
the
staff
report
numbers
one
through
seven.
Also.
E
And
the
seating
modifications
only
to
apply
to
the
front
of
the
building
and
that
all
tables
and
chairs
are
secured
after
hours
and.
O
E
E
A
O
E
A
C
L
O
A
N
Actually,
let's
change
this
view.
Sorry,
okay,
the
adu
will
be
located
above
a
proposed,
detached
garage
and
will
measure
650
square
feet
in
size.
N
The
garage
and
adu
will
have
a
total
height
of
approximately
19
feet,
which
is
three
feet:
six
inches
below
the
height
of
the
primary
home
on
the
property,
a
concrete
walkway
will
be
provided,
giving
access
from
the
adu
to
the
primary
home
off-street
parking
for
the
primary
home
on
the
property
will
be
provided
by
the
proposed
detached
garage.
The
garage
will
be
accessed
from
the
existing
alley
at
the
rear
of
the
property.
An
off-street
parking
space
for
the
adu
will
be
provided
on
the
existing
driveway.
N
N
N
These
are
pictures
of
the
alley
that
runs
behind
the
property
that
will
give
access
to
the
parking
for
the
detached
garage
during
the
early
engagement
process,
staff
received
eight
comments
regarding
the
proposal.
Six
were
opposed
to
the
pro
proposal.
Two
were
in
favor
staff
received
a
letter
from
the
sugar
house
community
council
vice
chair,
stating
they
were
generally
in
favor
of
the
proposal.
Due
to
the
proposal
meeting
zoning
requirements,
staff
was
recommending
that
the
commission
approve
this
conditional
use
request
with
conditions
found
in
the
staff
report.
A
No
scroll
through
okay
and
then
do
we
have
steve
brendell.
R
1756
south
windsor
street
good
evening
clinic
commissioners.
I
wanted
to
just
give
a
brief
presentation.
I
purchased
this
property.
We
we
scoured
this
area
looking
for
a
piece
of
property
that
would
accommodate
the
needs.
My
daughter
wanted
to
live
in
this
area.
It's
a
great,
a
great
area
and
it's
going
through
a
very
interesting
and
dynamic
rejection,
and
so
we
we
purchased
this
100
year
old,
bungalow
and
we're
in
the
process
right
now
of
of
remodeling,
the
bungalow
we've
kept
it
in
its
its
original
form
and
so
on.
R
So
it's
we
added
150
square
foot
to
the
back
of
the
property
we
actually
excavated
out.
The
basement
took
the
shelf
out
from
underneath
the
thing
and
took
put
a
whole
new
foundation
and
supported
the
proper
support
of
the
house.
So
it's
a
it's
very
well
built
now
a
lot
better
than
it
was
a
hundred
years
ago
and
so
it'll
be
a
very
nice
home.
R
We've
came,
we
my
daughter,
came
to
me
and
wanted
to
stay
in
this
area
and
live
in
this
area
and
came
to
me
and
asked
me
how?
How
could
we
accomplish
that?
R
And
I
looked
at
the
possibility
of
doing
an
adu
and
researched
that
went
through
my
due
diligence
and
met
with
staff
and
was
comfortable
with
the
ordinances
and
so
on
for
for
doing
that,
so
this
was
to
help
with
a
more
permanent,
affordable
housing
option.
This
will
help
subsidize
her
to
be
able
to
stay
here
in
in
the
city
where
she's
going
to
be
working
and
living
here
for
many
many
years.
O
Yeah
so
I'll
introduce
myself
and
madeline.
As
my.
I
Dad
said
I'll
get
a
give
a
little
overview
of
my
background
and
my
future
plans
here
in
the
uk.
So
my
family
has
been
in
utah
for
many
years
since
the
1900s-
and
I
was
born
here
and
lived
here
until
I
was
18
when
I
left
for
college.
I
H
I
I
R
And
then
just
real
quick,
I
think
chris
did
a
good
job
with
his
presentation.
You
all
have
the
pocket
that
he
put
together
with
the
the
standards
analysis
of
standards,
and
I
just
want
to
comment
the
fact
that
all
of
the
standards
for
our
our
adu
are
in
compliance
and
outlined
in
the
staff
report,
and
with
that
I
just
want
to
show
you
a
couple
of
quick
pictures.
R
There's
the
front
of
the
property
from
a
different
angle:
there's
the
rear
of
the
property,
it's
a
very
large
property,
long
property
that
fronts
both
an
alley
and
the
main
street.
R
R
Is
franz
wilson
street
it's
about
both
the
adus,
I'm
going
to
show
you
that
are
close
by
are
within
150
foot
of
our
property.
The
next
slide
is
another
property.
This
is
8.25
coatesville
avenue.
It's
really
neat
little
property
very
quaint.
Obviously,
they've
done
a
lot
of
work
to
it
and
the
their
adu
also
fronts
wilson
street
again.
This
is
within
150
foot
of
our
property.
R
L
I
have
a
question
for
the
planning
staff.
Our
adu
ordinance
right
now
does
not
address
building
materials
right.
N
So,
there's
not
anything
that
addresses
specifically
with
building
materials
unless
you're
in
a
historic
area,
then
those
historic
standards
apply.
There
are
rules
regarding
windows
and
what
types
of
windows
can
be
on
a
facade
and
the
distance
with
the
within
the
property
lines.
N
So
there
is
rules
about
that,
but
the
exact
design
requirements
there's
nothing
in
our
ordinance.
For
that.
L
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
this
with
the
cdu
and,
of
course
I
love
adus
in
general,
but
just
a
comment.
I
know
we're
intending
to
revise
the
adu
ordinance
at
some
point
and
I
would
love
to
see
some
addressment
of
building
materials
to
bring
greater
counterpoint
in
neighborhoods,
where
we
put
these
adus,
like
you
know,
a
little
more
brick
in
a
neighborhood
like
that
with
all
those
bungalows
would
make
a
big
improvement
for
that
neighborhood
in
my
opinion,
but
I
think
this
product
is
fine,
as
is.
A
Thanks
crystal
any
other
questions
for
the
applicants
or
for
staff
before
we
go
to
the
public
hearing,
no
okay,
thank
you
for
your
presentation,
we'll
now
move
to
the
public
hearing,
and
if
there
are
questions
that
come
up
during
the
public
hearing,
we
may
bring
you
back
to
respond
to
any
issues
that
are
raised,
so
I
will
go
ahead
and
open
the
public
hearing.
John.
Do
we
have
any
members
of
the
community
council?
I
think
he
said
judy
was
here
or
she
here
to
speak
on
this
item.
S
Thank
you,
I'm
judy
short,
I'm
the
land
use
chair
for
the
sharehouse
community
council.
We
reviewed
this
like
we
always
do
where
we
put
the
project
on
our
website
with
a
comment
form
for
people
to
give
us
feedback.
We
made
a
flyer
and
put
it
on
the
porches
of
homes.
On
the
two
side,
streets
included
a
link
to
the
project
and
feedback
form.
We
put
it
in
our
newsletter
which
reaches
about
1800
people
and
we
had
it
on
the
land
use
agenda.
For
our
virtual
meeting
on
june
15th,
we
received
a
number
of
comments.
S
S
There's
no
close
fire
hydrant.
Perhaps
this
needs
to
have
an
interior
sprinkler
system,
we're
confused
by
the
fact
that
the
city
says
it
does
not
want
to
change
the
character
of
our
neighborhoods,
and
yet
these
extra
apartments
and
adus
are
having
exactly
that
effect.
S
S
S
So
you
need
to
make
sure
that
math
works
and
we'd
like
specific
sound
how
the
deed
restrictions
are.
Actually
done
and
then
who
tracks
that
that
is
enforced
in
perpetuity,
and
then
we
worry
that
a
unit
that
fronts
on
an
alley-
maybe
it
should
have
some
kind
of
lighting
exterior
lighting
like
the
front
of
a
house,
would
have
and
maybe
not
just
a
little
light
on
the
door,
but
perhaps
something
up
at
the
top
of
the
building.
That
would
shine
and
light
up
the
street.
S
G
We
do,
we
have
allison
denier.
A
And
just
a
reminder:
you'll
have
two
minutes
in
which
to
make
your
comments,
then
we'll
move
to
the
next
speaker:
okay,.
I
Can
you
hear
me
yes,
okay,
thank
you.
I
just
want
to
make
a
correction.
The
suppose
that
two
adus
currently
on
wilson
street
are
not
adus
and
kelsey.
Lindquist,
I
believe,
is
on
this
committee
and
she
was
in
charge
of
the
planning
for
825
coatesville
garage.
I
I
There
would
be
no
privacy
in
my
in
my
back
garden
as
a
result
of
a
elevated
attack
and
as
a
result
of
a
large
window
that
that
will
overlook
my
garden
and
it
would
really
negatively
impact
my
property
in
a
way
imaginable,
and
this
is
why
I
object
to
it,
along
with
the
fact
that
this
will
turn
the
whole
single
family
property
at
1756
into
essentially
a
multi-rental
property,
which
we
already
have
in
wilson
in
windsor
street,
when
it
is
supposed
to
be
a
single
family
home,
and
it
will
really
change
this
neighborhood.
I
G
Have
a
written
comment
but
they're
also
logged
in
the
meetings
I
was
gonna,
see
if
they'd
rather
speak,
rather
than
have
their
comments
read
if
that's
okay.
G
So
kristen
blackbane,
I
I
have
an
email
from
you
indeed
or
if
you'd
prefer
to
speak
before
the
commission.
You
can
just
let
me
know
what
you
prefer.
H
T
E
G
Right,
I
will
read
her
email.
It
says
I'm
writing
to
provide
you.
My
official
comment
on
the
pros
adu.
I
live
in
the
home
next
door
to
the
north
of
1750
windsor
street.
I
participated
in
the
planning
commission
meeting,
which
provided
more
insight
in
the
plans
and
iterations
of
the
new
owner,
stephen
brendell
hello's,
a
list
of
concerns
and
issues
about
allowing
this
to
be
built
number
one
privacy.
This
is
from
my
home
and
yard,
as
well
as
the
neighbors
to
the
south
of
1756..
G
The
proposed
two-story
structure
would
look
directly
into
my
bedroom
window
back
stairs
and
backyard.
I
have
two
young
children
who
would
constantly
be
able
to
be
in
the
view
of
the
multiple
renters
who
would
be
living
both
in
the
existing
home
and
the
proposed
adu
at
1756
windsor.
This
is
an
addition
to
the
planned
courtyard,
slash
deck
that
he
has
adding
on
to
the
existing
home.
G
That
will
be
level
with
the
first
story:
the
home
instead
of
ground
level
like
the
other
home
on
the
street
having
it
level
the
first
floor
will
make
it
so
someone
standing
the
deck
is
waste
level
to
my
fence.
Again,
taking
away
any
privacy,
my
family
is
in
their
own
home.
Second
issue
is
parking,
while
stephen
brendall
assumes
he's
going
to
get
when
he
providing
ample
parking
for
his
multiple
tenants
and
her
daughter.
His
proposal
still
includes
a
single
lane
driveway.
G
In
order
for
the
car
to
be
able
to
get
in
animals,
cars
will
need
to
shuffle
on
the
street
in
order
to
allow
access.
There
already
isn't
enough
parking
for
the
current
homeowners
on
windsor,
so
adding
four
plus
additional
people
who
may
or
may
not
own
multiple
cars
each
would
create
quite
a
problem
in
his
proposal.
He
has
a
two-car
garage
in
a
driveway
he
admitted
to
intending
to
have
his
daughter
occupy
the
adu
and
rent
the
four
bedroom
home
out
to
the
other
individual
students.
That's
at
least
five
cars,
if
not
more.
G
This
isn't
enough
space
for
that
attached.
As
a
pitcher
stephen
branhamson,
experiencing
the
current
lack
of
available
parking
as
he
chose
to
park
in
front
of
my
driveway
blocking
it.
This
has
happened
multiple
times
with
his
workers
heading
over
to
park
and
enough
parking
in
front
of
my
driveway
in
front
of
the
fire
hydrant
on
the
opposite
side
of
the
street.
G
Through
the
edu
does
not
solve
the
current
housing
problems
of
salt
lake
city,
stephen
brennan
stated
his
plans
are
to
have
his
daughter
occupy
the
existing
home
with
other
roommates
and
tenants
and
move
into
the
proposed
adu
and
continue
renting
out
the
home.
This
would
mean
that
they
are
renting
out
a
four
bedroom.
Two
bathroom
home
in
sugar
house
and
steven's
own
words
in
the
planning
meeting.
The
home
will
be
the
nicest
home
on
the
blog
and
worth
750
000.
G
When
he's
done
with
it
does
it
obviously
mean
that
the
rental
price
of
the
home
would
clearly
not
fall
in
the
affordable
housing
category?
This
is
only
a
problem.
There's
the
lack
of
available
housing
in
the
area,
there's
a
lack
of
affordable
housing
in
this
area,
building
an
idea
in
the
backyard
at
home
having
your
family
living.
It
then
renting
out
the
home
to
multiple
people.
High
prices.
Definitely
not
the
answer,
nor
the
solution
to
this
growing
problem
is
only
contributing
to
it.
G
This
would
further
open
the
door
to
other
builders
or
out
of
state
investors
to
follow
suit
and
continue
to
add
to
this
problem,
which
is
how
it
got
out
of
control.
In
the
first
place,
another
home
was
recently
sold
on
our
street
and
the
builders
were
lined
up
the
day
it
was
put
on
the
market.
Looking
through
the
same
thing,
stephen
brenda
looked
at
this
other
home
himself.
Luckily,
the
former
owners
agree
with
the
concerns
they're
the
neighbors
on
our
street
and
chose
to
sell
to
a
small
family.
G
Instead,
for
and
last
the
majority
of
the
stretch
of
industry
is
made
of
a
single-family
owner-occupied
homes.
We
really
value
the
small
and
quiet
neighborhood,
adding
multi-renter
multi-family
properties
with
a
home,
and
it
really
takes
away
from
the
very
reason
that
most
of
us
chose
to
buy
a
home
in
the
area.
There
are
several
families
that
lived
here
for
decades.
Please
respect
the
current
homeowners
on
windy
street
and
their
wishes.
Please
consider
their
neighbors
when
making
these
decisions,
because
we
are
the
ones
who
are
most
affected
by
it.
G
G
It
looks
like
there's
one
at
least
one
more
sorry,
let's
see
craig
wilson
are
you
there?
Yes,
all
right,
go
ahead
and
speak.
You
have
two
minutes.
E
All
right,
thank
you.
Okay,
so
I've
lived
in
this
home
for
34
years.
My
uncle
pete
lived
across
the
street
at
72,
1762
south
from
just
after
world
war
ii
until
2003
and
is
at
his
death
so
about
55
years.
So
I
have
a
connection
to
the
neighborhood.
That
makes
me
more
than
just
an
ordinary
stakeholder
and
I
anticipate
that
we
will
be
in
our
house,
my
wife
and
I
for
the
foreseeable
future,
about
20
to
25,
maybe
30
years,
depending
upon
our
health,
so
we're
not
just
fly
by
nights.
E
Please
take
that
into
consideration.
I
oppose
this
for
several
reasons.
Number
one
you
guys
must
take
responsibility
for
a
long
surrender
so
high
that
it
takes
away
the
privacy
of
the
adjoining
neighbors
I
mean,
can
you
imagine
somebody
standing
on
a
deck
looking
into
your
bedroom?
That's
just
voyeurism
and
you're
supporting
that
dude.
D
To
our
neighborhood,
I
just
walked
around
earlier
this
afternoon
of.
E
D
Apartment
building
we
have
more
than
enough
rentals.
I
think
that's.
G
I
I
don't
see
any
other
anybody
else
wishing
to.
A
A
N
N
Those
are
signed
and
recorded
with
the
salt
lake
county
recorder's
office.
So
it
is
a
legal
document
that
they
do
have
to
adhere
by.
If
there
are
complaints
that
they're
not
adhering
to
the
requirements
of
that
deed
restriction,
then
it
would
be
a
complaint
made
to
the
civil
enforcement
department.
Who
would
investigate
the
complaint
to
see
if
there
are
any
sort
of
violations
that
are
taking
place.
G
G
D
No
problem
yeah,
that's
the
problem
with
the
z,
my
first
name,
zachary
dusalt
speaking
in
favor
of
the
application
for
pretty
much
the
reasons
I
always
speak
in
favor
of
adu's,
increased,
affordable
housing,
stock
increase,
diverse
options
for
housing
in
the
city,
begin
to
address
the
affordable
housing
crisis
and
well.
I
sympathize
with
neighbors
who
say
that.
Well,
this
is
an
affordable
housing
heading
to
the
housing
stock
is
how
you
lower
the
market
rate
of
housing.
D
D
One
of
the
big
things
about
what's
good
about
adq's
is
that
they're
a
low
cost
option
for
construction
and
by
handcuffing
developers
with
server
restrictions
like
I
know
in
this
case
contractor,
but
brick
would
be
more
expensive
than
and
stucco.
In
this
case-
and
I
know
there
are
certain
restrictions
as
to
foundations
with
adus,
where
traditional
single-family
homes
could
use
at
less
expensive
foundation
and
that's
currently
in
the
ordinance
that's
holding
up
construction.
D
So
that's
my
comments
in
favor
of
the
application.
Thank
you.
A
N
C
I
have
a
question
about
that
too
chris,
which
is
that
one
of
the
letters
we
got
suggested
that
there
was
not
in
fact
10
feet
is
on
the
side
yard,
from
an
adjacent
property
owners.
N
Yeah
with
that
and
steve
could
probably
speak
a
little
bit
more
to
this,
but
he
had
the
property
surveyed
and
the
site
plan
that
he
presented
was
based
off
of
that
survey
according
to
him.
So
we
have
to
go
with
the
good
faith
that
that
information
is
in
fact.
R
Yep,
so
yes,
there
was
a
record
of
survey
done
on
the
properties.
The
first
thing
I
do
when
I
buy,
even
before
I
buy
a
piece
of
property
to
make
sure
that
the
property
corners
or
the
you
know
the
property
actually
fits
the
the
deed
and
everything
the
things
about
the
title
company
is
the
time
of
company
people
think
that
if
you
buy
a
piece
of
property
in
the
description
and
and
that
they
ensure
that
they
don't
they
don't
insure
the
property
owners.
R
The
first
thing
that
again
I
do
is
have
the
property
course
stake.
They
actually
do
a
record
of
survey
which
actually
they
put
a
bar
and
cap
in.
They
actually
put
their
survey
number
their
license
on
that
cap.
Those
caps
are
all
in
place
on
the
property
today
and
that
the
one
the
one
property
corner
that
kristen
has
addressed
is
actually
three
feet.
They
put
the
pin
in
three
feet
away,
and
I
explained
that
to
them
it's
actually
written
right
on
the
stake.
The
reason
they
put
the
property
pin
three
feet.
R
Excuse
me:
three
feet
away
is
because
they're,
I'm
not
sure
what
it
is.
It's
a
garage
or
a
shed
or
whatever
it
is,
is
actually
their
foundation
is
right,
underneath
the
property
line,
so
it's
probably
encroaching
by
an
inch
or
so
so
that's
that's
the
reason
that
she's
she
saw
that
steak
and
thought
that
that's
the
property
corner,
which
it's
not
again,
I
have
an
actual
stamped
copy
of
the
survey.
It's
actually
recorded
documents
public
record
and
it
actually
shows
that
it's
actually
delineated
in
that
northwest
corner
of
the.
T
R
Yeah
some
of
them-
I
really
I
I
I
won't
because
it
just
made
me
mad,
but
the
voyeurism
and
that
kind
of
stuff
this
is
my
daughter's
house.
She's
you
you've,
seen
she's
a
very
accomplished
girl.
She
wants
to
live
in
this
neighborhood
and
being
attacked
by
by
neighbors
is,
is
not
very
kind,
and
I
don't
get
it,
but
you
know
some
of
the
things
were
brought
up
about
privacy
and
trees.
I
have
no
problem.
R
R
We
can
actually
put
trees
right
down
the
property
line
on
both
sides
of
the
property
and
stagger
those,
so
it
actually
looks
like
it
belongs,
so
it
actually
has
a
nice
feel
that
it
doesn't
just
my
side
that
I
have
to
put
a
you
know
row
of
trees.
It
makes
it
look
a
lot
more
appealing.
I
have
no
problem
with
that
whatsoever.
I
would
love
to
do
that.
I
would
love
to
work
with
my
neighbors.
That's
that's
never
been
a
problem.
R
I
don't
know
why
we're
being
attacked
it's,
I
really
I'm
sorry,
but
I'm
I'm
very
upset.
My
daughter
is
very
excited
about
doing
this.
This
is
this
is
something
for
that
really
benefits
young
people
to
be
able
to
stay
in
a
community
like
this.
They
can
actually
live
in
the
community
and
work
in
the
community
from
windsor
street
to
the
university
of
utah.
These
are
the
kind
of
people
we
wanted.
Our
committee,
I
would
think
in
our
community.
I
think-
and
again
I
take
offense
to
some
of
the
comments.
C
I
do
have
I
have
a
I
do
have
a
question.
Some
of
the
neighborhoods
neighbors
seem
to
feel
that
you
are
going
to
be
renting
out
rooms
in
the
main
house
to
separate
people
in
separate
families.
C
Are
you
aware
that
you
that
there's
a
limitation
on
the
number
of
different
that
that
that
doing
so
puts
you
in
jeopardy?
You
can't
rent
out
a
lot
of
different
rooms
and
or
make
more
than
one
adu
one
of
the
one.
One
of
the
your
main
building
has
to
be
a
single
family
unit.
C
R
I
And
I
looked
over
all
the
as
well
the
adu
compliance,
and
I
saw
at
that
point
about
the
limit
on
family
members
and
we're
in
compliance
with
that.
R
I
Yeah,
so
actually
the
the
ordinance
and
design
standards
for
adus.
It
says
right
here,
number
of
residents.
The
total
number
of
residents
that
reside
in
an
adu
may
not
exceed
the
number
allowed
for
a
family,
as
defined
by
a
section,
a
bunch
of
numbers,
definitions
and
terms
of
this
title.
And
it
says
that
a
family
means
any
number
of
people
living
together
in
a
dwelling
unit
related
by
blood,
marriage
or
adoption,
including
up
to
three
additional
unrelated
people
or
one
to
four
unrelated
people
living
together
into
dwelling
and.
R
R
You
know,
doctors
working
on
on
their
on
their
stuff
and
because
you
can't
have
you
don't
stay
up
late,
you
can't
you
have
to
study
to
get
a
phd
is,
is
a
very
difficult,
time-consuming
thing
and
I'm
very
proud
of
my
daughter
for
being
able
to
do
this,
and
I
am
trying
to
accommodate
that
in
this.
That's
why
we
that's
why
I
bought
the
property
based
on
the
ordinance
and
based
on
what
what's
going
on
with
salt
lake.
R
I
think
it's
fantastic,
because
if
I
look
around
the
alternative
for
young
people,
I
don't
know
where
it
is.
If
it's
the
high-rise
apartments
that
are
going
for,
you
know
three
thousand
to
four
thousand
dollars
a
month.
I'm
you
know
guys
it
doesn't
work,
we
need.
We
need
adus,
that's
a
it's!
A
huge
plus
for
this
area.
A
Response
back
to
the
commission,
any
other
questions
or
comments.
O
So
it's
frustrating
to
me
that
there's
this
lack
of
understanding
and
I
suffered
from
that
in
the
beginning
as
well,
so
it's
understandable,
but
you
know
just
outright
saying:
no
isn't
really
an
option,
because
state
law
directs
us
to
do
something
else.
So
the
to
me
the
impacts
that
were
brought
up
by
the
neighbors
include
parking
and
include
privacy
issues
which
I
feel
like
the
applicant
is
addressing.
O
I
think
that
the
parking
in
the
plan
is
totally
adequate
to
be
off
street
and
I
think
the
applicant's
willingness
to
do
some
planting
is
also
what
needs
to
happen.
I
I'd
also
like
to
tell
the
applicant
a
lot
of
times.
You
know
people
create
scenarios
of
what
they
think
may
happen,
and
so
for
me,
I
can't
make
a
decision
based
on
speculation
of
who
or
how
many
you
may
have
lived
there.
O
That
would
be
a
compliance
issue
in
the
end,
I'm
perfectly
I
feel,
like
the
the
impacts
can
be
reasonably
mitigated
in
this
regard,
and
I
hope
the
neighbors
understand
that
our
role
is
is
just
that
and
not
saying.
No,
because
you
don't
want
it,
we
need
to
figure
out
how
to
make
it
work
and
to
make
it
work
correctly
to
lessen
those
detrimental
impacts,
and
I
think
that
the
applicant
is
doing
that.
Thank
you.
C
Based
on
the
information
listed
in
the
staff
report,
the
information
presented
in
the
input
receipt
during
the
public
hearing,
I
removed
that
the
commission
approved
the
request
for
conditional
use
for
an
accessory
dwelling
unit.
Adu
at
1756,
south
windsor
street
has
presented
and
petitioned
pln
pcm.
A
O
A
E
A
E
A
L
Yes,
I
was
gonna,
make
a
small
condition,
but
brenda
beat
me
to
the
punch,
so
I
just
want
to
recommend.
L
Lighting
in
the
alley-
and
I
think
that's
something
we
ought
to
look
at
in
our
standards
ongoing,
because
that
has
been
a
real
issue.
Citywide.
A
O
A
A
B
Marlene
or
john,
do
you
mind
sharing
the
screen.
E
E
E
E
E
E
A
A
A
A
A
Yeah,
let's
get
this
going,
yeah!
Okay,
where
are
we
item?
Number
three
conditional
use,
adu
at
approximately
1079
south
jeremy
street
case
number
pln
pcm
four
two,
and
because
I
have
to
accuse
myself
due
to
a
business
conflict.
Brenda
will
take
over
for
me
on
this
one.
C
Thank
you
adrian,
so
the
staff
presentation
on
this
is
chris
earl
again.
N
Hello,
welcome
back.
I
will
go
ahead
and
share
my
screen.
E
N
Let's
see,
let
me
get
back
so
this
is
a
request
from
andrea
palmer,
with
modal,
representing
the
property
owner
for
a
conditional
use
approval
for
a
detached
accessory
dwelling
unit
located
in
the
rear
yard
of
the
property
located
at
approximately
1072
south
jeremy
street.
N
N
N
During
the
early
engagement
process,
staff
received
a
letter
of
support
from
the
or
for
the
project
from
the
glendale
community
council
staff
received
no
public
comment
regarding
the
proposal.
Staff
is
recommending
that
the
commission
approve
this
conditional
use
request
with
the
conditions
found
in.
I
Speak
hi
andrew
palmer,
here
with
modal
living.
I
am
the
applicant
for
the
homeowners
at
1072,
south
jeremy
street.
The
I
wanted
to
go
over
the
use
of
the
adu
for
a
family
friend
and
business
associate
of
homeowners.
They've
lived
in
the
house
for
25
years
and
have
been.
I
Project
and
speaking
with
their
neighbors-
and
you
know,
familiar
familiarizing
their
neighbors
with
what's
going
on
in
their
project
and
that
and
what
their
intended
use
is,
and
both
both
neighbors
adjacent
to
the
properties
on
the
north
and
south
are
have
have
voiced
favor
for
the
project.
So
if
there's
any
other
questions
the
commission
may
have
for
me,
I
can
I'm
more
than
happy
to
answer
those.
D
Zachary
dusal
speaking
in
favor
of
the
application,
just
keep
it
very
short.
It's
the
same
reason.
I
speak
in
payroll.
Adu's,
increased
affordability,
increased
priority
housing
sites,
that's
it!
Thank
you.
G
And
commissioners,
here
I
had,
I
got
I've
received
one
email
that
I
can
read
out
loud
if
you'd
like.
Please
do
it,
says:
commission
members
and
staff,
I'm
writing,
conveying
my
support
marcin
anne's
adu
project
at
1072,
south
jeremy.
I
live
in
the
house
right
next
door
to
the
south
they're
good
neighbors
and
we'll
make
something
good
happen
for
the
community.
This
project,
looking
forward
to
seeing
it
ryan,
diener,
1076,
south
jeremy
street.
C
Seeing
no
other
comments,
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
and
move
this
application
back
to
the
commission.
C
Is
there
any
comments
anybody
want
to
to
have
any
more
questions
for
the
applicant
or
for
the
staff.
O
Chair
go
ahead
based
on
the
information
listed
in
the
staff
report,
the
information
presented
and
the
input
received
during
the
public
hearing.
I
move
that
the
commission
approved
the
request
for
conditional
use
for
an
accessory
drilling
unit
at
1072
south
germany
street,
as
presented
in
petition
pln
pcn
2020.00429,
with
the
conditions
listed
in
the
staff
report.
C
E
C
A
All
right
item
number
four
conditional.
You
say
to
you
at
approximately
13
36
south
1000
east
case
number,
pln
pcm,
zero.
Four
one
and
chrissy
is
giving
the
staff
report.
T
T
T
T
The
parking
for
the
primary
residence
will
be
in
the
garage
there's
two
stalls
in
the
garage
and
then
one
stall
for
the
adu
on
site.
There's
this
driveway
that
goes
through
the
property
and
then
the
property
is
also
located
within
a
fourth
mile
of
a
transit
stop,
so
parking
could
be
waived,
although
they
do
provide
it
on
site.
T
They
are
proposing.
Well,
actually,
they've
already
have
approval
for
a
seven
foot
fence
that
surrounds
the
side
and
rear
property
lines
to
help
mitigate
the
concerns
and
the
impact
of
the
adu,
and
there
is
a
gate,
but
we
typically
discourage
vehicles
from
backing
onto
alleyways,
so
transportation
requested
that
they
back
into
the
driveway
this
way
and
then
exit
onto
the
alleyway
car
forward.
If
that
makes
sense
and
or
they
can
exit
onto
10th
east.
A
O
T
It
was
brought
up
and
it's
just
something
we
can
discourage,
but
it's,
but
unless,
if
it's
five
cars
or
less
I
believe
are
allowed
to.
But
it's
discouraged.
T
The
primary
home
has
a
basement
with
a
kitchen
and
a
walk-out
door,
and
there
is
the
the
main
kitchen
upstairs
building
services
review
this
and
they
don't
believe
that
that
qualifies
as
a
second
dwelling
and
the
homeowner
has
also
indicated
that
they
don't
intend
to
rent
that
out
as
a
second
dwelling.
So
right
now
proposal
is
the
ordinance
that
it
would
just
be
the
single
family,
home
plus
the
edu
sorry.
My
screen
is
having
a
hard
time
going
forward.
That's
where
I'm.
T
T
Okay,
this
property
is
a
little
bit
unique
in
that
it's
already
mostly
been
built.
It's
under
construction
right
now,
so
we
have
photos
of
the
actual
edu.
This
is
the
rear
of
the
property.
Here
is
the
door
I
was
talking
about
with
the
parking
would
be
right
here
in
front
of
it.
The
av
was
on
the
second
story
and
then
here
photos
that
show
the
garage
and
then
the
main
home
and
the
elevation.
O
T
O
T
Yeah
this
this
was
the
south
property
line,
so
they
would
come
in
through
the
driveway
here
and
then
turn
into
the
garage.
T
Thanks
and
then
you
can
see
the
driveway
in
this
image
and
then
here
are
just
images
of
the
neighboring
properties.
There
is
a
single-family
home
to
the
north
and
a
multi-family
complex
to
the
south,
and
then
here
are
pictures
from
the
alleyway.
This
is
the
hallway
looking
north
and
then
just
have
the
site
to
sell.
T
So
during
the
public
engagement
process,
staff
received
one
comment
opposed
to
the
proposal
that
is
included
in
your
staff
report
and
it
generally
talked
about
the
lot
in
the
home
being
overbuilt
for
the
lot.
I
did
look
into
that
and
although
the
home
does
so
large,
it
does
meet
all
of
our
zoning
ordinance
requirements
as
far
as
setbacks
and
lot
coverage
and
then
following
the
publish
date
of
the
staff
report,
another
comment
was
received.
It
was
more
general
in
questions.
T
I
did
talk
about
concerns
with
I'm
backing
onto
the
alleyway
and
then
additionally,
today
I
received
a
letter
from
the
east
liberty
park.
Community
organization
that
has
been
included
in
your
dropbox
account.
They
generally
expressed
that
they're
in
favor
of
the
proposal,
because
it
meets
the
zoning
requirements,
but
that
they
believe
this
is
an
example
of
how
it
is,
can
have
a
negative
impact
on
the
neighborhood
and
they
would
like
that
looked
into
when
the
ordinance
is
revisited.
T
L
Okay,
I
don't
know
if
this
is
a
question
for
christy
or
the
building
owner,
but
I
actually
live
three
doors
down,
and
I'm
curious
about
the
two
entrances
in
the
front
is:
is
that
another
unit
on
top
of
the
adu.
T
Yeah
the
applicant
ends
here
and
he
can
address
that.
But
I
did.
I
did
talk
to
building
services
and
they
don't,
even
though
it
does
have
the
entrance
on
the
ground
level
into
the
basement
that
doesn't
qualify
as
a
second
unit
and
the
applicant
did
indicate
they
don't
intend
to
use
it
as
a
second
unit.
But
I
will
let
him
address
that
when
he
when
he
speaks
okay,.
P
Fantastic,
thank
you
very
much,
commissioners.
I
appreciate
the
time
to
take
a
look
at
this.
Let
me
address
that
question
right
off
the
that
is
an
additional
entrance
to
the
basement
and
the
purpose
for
that
is.
We
have
six
children,
my
wife
and
I
and
believe
it
or
not.
We've
already
had
four
of
them
ask
about,
potentially
at
some
time
moving
in
with
us
temporary,
we
hope
and
it's
kind
of
a
privacy
thing.
Even
though
we
can
go
up
and
down
between
the
levels,
it's
free
flow.
P
We
do
kind
of
want
them
to
have
their
own
space
and
that's
why
a
second
entrance
was
in
the
front
and
then
the
purpose
for
the
adu
in
the
back
is
we
have
one
son,
my
25
year
old,
we
were
standing
there
when
they
said
dad.
If
I
could
live
here
off
and
on
it
would
be
wonderful.
He
lives
in
st
george
right
now
does
seasonal
type,
work,
sales
and
installations
in
different
areas
comes
up
and
visits,
and
he
wants
to
have
an
area
for
himself
and
he
wanted
me
to
share
something
with
you.
P
My
health
is
not
the
best
and
he
wants
to
be
able
to
be
here
in
case.
I
need
help
to
go
to
the
hospital
five
years
ago.
Let's
see
six
years
ago,
I
had
to
have
somebody
take
me
to
the
hospital.
Take
me
to
appointments,
because
I
was
unable
to
do
it
myself,
just
to
walk
up
and
down
the
street.
I
had
to
have
somebody
with
me
and
he
said
if
you
need
that,
I
will
be
there
to
help
you
do
that,
and
we
know
he.
P
It
may
not
be
him
all
the
time,
but
it
could
be
someone
else
and
it's
a
place
whether
it
be
him
all
the
time.
If
somebody
else
had
to
move
in
with
us
to
help
do
that,
it
would
be
an
area
where
they
would
have
their
privacy,
and
yet
we
would
still
have
our
own
privacy
and
when
we
have
other
family
members
come
to
visit,
they
can
go
downstairs
and
have
their
own
space
as
well,
but
it
is
we
we
do
not
intend.
P
P
O
Paul,
I
just
have
a
comment
and
just
hear
your
thoughts
because
of
how
this
faces
the
alley.
Have
you
are
you
considering
to
put
some
lighting
if
your
parking
is
going
to
be
right
there
for
some
safety
concerns,
like
the
picture,
doesn't
really
indicate
that
you
have
any
lighting
going
on,
but
I
would
really
strongly
recommend
you
put
some
if
you.
E
P
There
is
lighting
planned
for
back
there.
In
fact,
it
was
a
requirement
on
the
initial
plan.
You
have
lighting
there,
but
I
still
want
to
be
sensitive
not
to
put
too
much
lighting
back
there.
It
would
create
light
noise
for
the
neighbors.
P
O
Yeah
I
was
just.
I
was
really
just
trying
to
understand
the
position
of
where
things
were,
because
I
wasn't
clear
on
it.
So
that's
not
a
problem.
I
just
didn't
couldn't
tell
from
the
photos,
but
thanks
paul.
A
A
G
G
First,
it's
way
too
easy
to
go
through
a
final
inspection,
with
an
opening
between
the
upper
and
lower
levels
of
the
building,
under
the
guise
of
being
a
single
family
dwelling
and
then
put
a
door
in
later
to
separate
the
two
areas.
I'm
very
concerned,
this
is
actually
being
built
as
a
triflex.
Why,
otherwise,
would
there
be
two
entrances
in
the
front?
What
are
the
ramifications
if
neighbors
suspect
that
there
are
two
separate
family
units
living
in
the
front
part
of
the
house
after
the
final
inspection?
G
What
events
do
we
need
to
have
to
reopen
the
issue?
What
are
the
consequences
if
it
consequences
it
is
found
to
be
a
violation
in
the
future,
set
them
remove
a
door
really.
This
could
just
become
a
merry-go-round
door
up
door
down
door
outdoor
down.
I
submitted
a
complaint
when
the
owner
requested
a
variance
for
a
fence
height
that
variance
was
granted.
G
Despite
my
complaint,
this
is
a
very
friendly
neighborhood
and
paul
is
already
disrupting
that,
with
an
eight-foot
high,
solid
matter
fence
he's
now
enabled
to
install
indicated
that
he
needs
privacy
what
privacy
for
his
tenants,
what
about
the
privacy
for
existing
neighbors?
The
addition
over
the
garage
now
looks
over
our
fences
and
into
our
backyards
and
back
windows.
I
want
to
know
how
this
project
progressed
as
far
as
it
did.
I
do
not
trust
paul
if
the
new
group
matters
throughout
the
project
based
on
the
combination
of
all
these
factors,
I
completely
distrust
his
assertion.
G
The
front
of
the
building
is
for
single
family.
Really
two
kitchens
two
front
entrances
come
on
exceedingly
unhappy.
Neighbor
barbara,
I
didn't
see
any
other
hands
up,
including
I
didn't
see
a
handout
from
zach.
So.
E
D
Go
ahead.
Sorry,
I
was,
I
was
slow
on
this
one
zachary
dusal
speaking
today.
To
you
same
reasons,
I
always
do
and
that's
it
thanks.
A
Okay,
thank
you
I'll,
go
ahead
and
close
the
public
hearing.
I
I'll
ask
paul
you
don't
have
to,
but
do
you
want
to
respond
to
the
the
comment
from
the
neighbor?
It's
up
to
you.
P
I
would
be
happy
to
respond.
Can
you
hear
me.
E
P
P
We
absolutely
do
not
plan
on
renting
it
out.
So
that's
pure
speculation.
On
their
part,
I've
actually
called
barbara
because
I
knew
she
had
concerns
about
the
fence
talked
to
her
about
that
welcomed
her
to
come
over
anytime.
To
visit
with
me,
have
not
had
that
and
I'll
just
pretty
much
leave
it
at
that.
I
A
A
Default,
thank
you
caroline
motioned,
by
carolyn.
Oh
second,
second
bye
was
that
amy
amy,
okay,
second,
by
amy,
let's
go
and
do
the
roll
call
unless
there's
any
further
discussion:
no
okay,
maureen,
yes,
amy!
Yes,
caroline.
T
A
A
L
A
Okay,
duly
noted
motion
passes
unanimously
all
right
agenda
item
number
five
conditional
use,
adu
at
approximately
2297
south
lake
street
case
number,
pln,
pcm,
2020427
and
linda
is
making
the
staff
presenting
for
staff.
Yes,.
I
I
I
So
key
considerations,
as
mentioned
with
the
parking
is
being
provided
as
a
zoning
organism
only
requires
one
parking
spot
for
the
adu,
and
this
meets
the
housing
goals
consistent
with
the
goals
outlining
the
growing
slc
housing
plan.
In
addition,
the
proposed
adu
is
consistent
with
the
residential
land
use
goals
and
policy
included
in
the
sugar
house.
Master
plan
photos
site
visit
photos
of
the
existing
site.
Here
you
can
see
in
image.
One
is
the
rear
yard
facing
east
towards
the
alley
and
the
main
structure
you
see
there
is
the
actual
detached
garage.
I
The
smaller
structure
on
the
left
is
the
existing
playhouse
that
would
be
removed
and
on
the
right
of
the
detached
garage
is
the
area
where
the
proposed
adu
parking
space
will
be
in
image.
Two
you'll
see
this
is
the
south
elevation
of
the
detached
garage
image.
Three
is
a
view
of
the
detached
garage
from
the
alley
and,
lastly,
image
four
is
a
view
of
the
alley
facing
south
with
the
subject
property
on
the
right.
I
So,
as
noted
in
the
staff
report,
sugar
house
community
council
is
generally
in
support
of
the
project
and
when
public
comment
received
did
not
indicate
a
position,
staff
has
not
received
any
additional
comments
on
the
project.
In
summary,
the
proposal
generally
meets
all
the
applicable
standards
and
staff
is
recommending
that
the
planning
commission
approve
the
conditional
use.
This
concludes
my
presentation
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
A
L
I'm
thomas
bath,
can
everybody
hear
me?
Okay,
yes,
excellent
great.
I
have
a
little
presentation
I'd
like
to
share
also,
if
that's.
L
How
about
that
here
we
go.
Yes,
okay,
great!
Thank
you
for
hanging
in
there.
I
know
this
has
been
a
long
meeting
thus
far,
and
thank
you
linda
for
such
a
terrific
introduction,
I'm
not
going
to
waste
everybody's
time
with
repeating
a
bunch
of
things
that
we've
already
heard,
but
I
just
wanted
to
quickly
take
you
through
this
chris
and
geralyn.
Stowe
are
our
long
time
residents
of
this
neighborhood.
L
This
is
a
a
long-term
house
for
them
and
their
two
children
they
already
have
this
attached
or
detached
garage
christo
is
a
general
contractor
and
is
using
this
as
also
a
way
or
an
advertisement
for
his
services.
L
This
is
essentially
renovating
an
existing
structure,
so,
like
linda,
said,
we're
removing
the
roof
from
this
existing
garage
and
creating
a
new
level
above
that
the
residence
that
will
be
created
was
primarily
for
their
friends
and
family
who
will
be
coming
out
for
outdoor
activity
or
to
help
watch
their
children.
So
this
gives
you
a
relative
adjacency
of
the
massing
and
kind
of
like
proximity
to
the
existing,
not
historical
residents,
but
has
a
lot
of
historic
character.
L
L
This
is
the
plans
for
the
adu.
This
is
the
existing
garage
on
the
ground
level,
which
shows
the
relationship
of
the
parking
area
here
with
the
the
detached
or
the
stair.
That
is
on
the
south
side,
which
takes
you
up
to
this
single
level.
Adu.
L
Chris
was
actually
the
snow
safety
person
at
brighton
up
until
recently
and
has
counseled
us
to
make
the
stair
feel
as
light
as
possible,
so
it
doesn't
accumulate
snow
and
he's
not
out
there
shoveling
in
the
middle
of
the
winter.
So
the
appearance
of
the
stairs
should
be
quite
quite
transparent
and
probably
have
not
too
much
of
a
issue
with
visibility.
L
L
L
That's
an
excellent
question
adrian.
This
is
actually
a
big
gate
that
opens
up.
It's
just
modeled
like
this,
just
to
kind
of
put
more
focus
on
the
adu
itself.
L
If
there's
any
other
questions,
please
feel
feel
free
to
ask.
L
A
A
Thank
you,
okay,
seeing
that
there
are
no
other
questions
for
the
applicant
at
this
point,
we'll
go
ahead.
Thank
you
for
your
presentation,
we'll
go
ahead
and
move
to
the
public
hearing,
we'll
open
the
public
hearing
and
ask
john,
if
dude
you're
still
here
and
wishes
to
speak,
and
if
anyone
else
is
here
indicating
an
interest
in
speaking.
G
Judy
has
me
through
a
long
meeting,
and
I
believe
she
does
want
to
speak
so
judy
if
you'd
like
to
give
us
your
comments.
Please.
S
They're
pleased
to
see
this,
I
like
the
way
that
that
it's
clear
that
the
entrance
to
the
garage
is
in
the
back
not
quite
sure
where
the
adu
parking
is
behind
that
gate.
He
was
talking
about
next
to
it.
Perhaps
the
one
comment
I
did
want
to
make
is
a
reference
to
a
second
source
of
income
for
visiting
outdoor
enthusiasts.
A
All
right,
thank
you
judy
and
just
for
reference.
That
is
one
of
the
conditions
in
the
adu
or
in
the
recommendation
from
from
staff,
and
the
approval
is
the
reiteration
of
the
limitation
of
short-term
rentals
any
other.
D
All
right,
zachary,
salt
speaking
of
favorite
application.
I
really
like
the
design
of
this.
D
I
think
that
I'd
like
to
see
more
applications
like
this,
where
housing
is
added
to
the
rear
of
lots,
especially
adjacent
to
alleyways,
that's
kind
of
a
big
problem
that
salt
lake
has
we've
got
very
skinny,
deep
lots
and
anyway,
we
can
add
housing
to
the
rear
like
this,
especially
as
it's
a
very
low
impact
on
adjacent
properties
that
are
normally
concerned
about
adus
directly
in
the
rear
of
a
house
and
a
rear
of
a
lot
I
mean
and
other
than
that,
just
the
favorite
application.
Thank
you.
A
K
E
A
Okay,
sorry,
I
think
I'm
having
internet
issues
try
this
again
crystal
yes,
okay,
brenda,
yes,
andreas.
E
A
Yes,
okay
motion
passes
unanimously.
Thank
you
all
very
much
so
that
was
our
last
agenda
item
john
or
michaela.
Is
there
anything
else.
G
No,
I
think
we
should
conclude.
O
Q
Four
years
ago,
and
what
they
do
is
they
drive
around
and
they
have
it's
a
machine
that
evaluates
the
condition
of
the
street.
They
take
all
that
information,
they
put
it
together
and
they
basically
score
the
streets
zero
to
a
hundred
as
it's
just
like
you're
going
to
school
hundreds,
the
best
zero
is
the
worst
we
take
that
information
and
we
use
it
to
rank
and
figure
out
which
streets
are
in
need
of
being
taken.
Q
We
don't
want
to
pave
the
street
and
then
one
year
later
have
public
utilities
have
to
go
in
and
put
a
water
line
in
or
have
some
elements
missed
because
we
went
too
quickly
on
that
project.
So
we
we
work
closely
with
those
other
divisions
and
working
with
them
helps
us
put
together
an
action
plan
and
that
action
plan
is
actually
on
funding
our
future
slc.com.
Q
13Th
east
is
an
arterial.
Those
are
the
bigger
streets
where
a
lot
more
people
use
those
roads
and
then
we're
going
to
use
the
remaining
20
percent
on
local
or
neighborhood
streets,
and
so
that
helps
us
make
sure
that
when
we
do
these
streets,
we
reconstruct
these
streets
that
everyone
is
benefiting
from
the
reconstruction
on
our
local
streets.
Q
We
are
going
council
district
to
council
district
this
summer,
we're
going
to
be
focusing
our
attention
on
the
local
streets
located
in
council
district
one
and
seven,
and
over
the
next
few
years
we
will
be
getting
to
some
of
the
streets
and
count.