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From YouTube: Planning Commission Meeting - July 31, 2019
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Salt Lake City Planning Commission Meeting - July 31, 2019
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G
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F
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C
A
K
Good
evening,
so
the
item
before
you
is
for
an
Adu
and
a
single-family
zone.
So
it's
a
conditional
use
and
that's
at
1978
Windsor
mr.
Dwight
Yee
is
gonna
talk
a
little
bit
about
it,
but
basically
what
we're
looking
at
here
is.
This
would
be
a
structure
built
behind
a
single-family
home.
Let's
see
here,
it
would
contain
a
detached
garage
for
the
home
two-car
detached
garage
with
a
single,
a
one-bedroom
Adu
over
the
top.
K
K
It
allows,
for
example,
the
door
to
face
towards
the
rear
of
the
property
and
then
also
with
the
height
of
the
house
and
the
larger
setbacks.
It's
allowed
to
be
a
little
taller.
So
it's
it's
proposed
as
20
feet,
tall
versus
the
house,
which
is
20,
feet,
8
inches
and
that's
a
rendering
of
it
there.
But
we
found
that
it
meets
the
standards
of
the
conditional
uses,
as
outlined
in
the
standards
for
the
ATU,
without
additional
concern
on
our
part
and.
D
So
it
meets
those
10-foot
setbacks
on
all
three
sides:
the
rear
and
the
two
side
property
lines.
So,
as
you
can
see
the
section
by
allowing
us
to
kind
of
pull
back,
then
we
can
use
the
80
guideline.
That
says
that
if
we
are
within
10
or
beyond
10
feet
of
the
property
lines,
we
can
actually
meet
the
height
of
the
existing
residence,
which
allows
us
the
floor
height.
We
need
for
a
second-story
ATU.
D
We
are
going
with
a
flat
roof
design
to
maximize
the
ceiling
heights,
because
his
house
is
only
20
foot,
8
inches
and
the
maximum
height
for
a
flat
roof
building
is
20
feet
in
this
zone
and
those
are
the
floor
plans.
As
you
can
see.
What
we're
proposing
is
for
him.
He
will
have
a
two-car
garage
in
the
10-foot.
Setback
on
the
south
of
the
property
will
be
kind
of
an
extended
driveway
and
that
will
be
a
parking
off
street
parking
space
for
the
ATU.
D
A
A
A
D
H
A
F
Well,
I
think
there
are
some
concerns
with
the
ordinance
and
how
its
producing
accessory
dwelling
units
that
are
all
very
similar
and
they're
very
dissimilar
to
the
neighborhoods
in
which
they're
located
which
I'm
not
arguing
for
or
against
I,
think
that's
just
something
that
the
city
may
want
to
take
a
look
at
to
see
if
we're
achieving
the
intent
of
the
goal
to
provide
affordable
housing,
but
also
have
it
fit
in
and
more
flexible
ways
with
the
existing
neighborhoods.
But
with
that
I'm
ready
to
make
a
motion.
Thank
you.
F
L
I'm
gonna
echo,
it
Adrienne
said
it's
really
hard
to
feel
good
about
saying.
Yes,
when
these
ad
use
looks
so
uninhabitable
and
we're
producing
these
boxes
and
thinking
that
it's
okay
just
to
have
people
live
in
them
and
they
don't
fit
the
neighborhood.
So
I
hope
that
there's
something
that
planning
can
do
to
maybe
try
to
address
that
design
guideline,
because
these
last
two
have
really
been
unattractive.
But
although
yes,
but
I
may
not
continue
to
do
that
in
the
future,.
A
E
Okay,
so
this
is
a
request
from
the
homeowners
at
1538
South
700
East,
for
special
exception
that
constructed
over
hate
fence
in
the
front
yard.
Walls
and
fences
are
allowed
to
be
4
feet
in
height
in
the
front
yard,
and
that
is
to
the
front
facade
of
the
home
and
then
beyond
that
in
the
side,
yards
are
allowed
to
be
6
feet
in
height.
The
ordinance
does
allow
for
a
special
exception
where
you
can
request
additional
height
for
fences
and
walls.
E
They
may
be
granted
if
they
meet
all
of
the
standards
and
if
they
don't
have
any
negative
impacts
on
the
established
character
of
the
neighborhood,
streetscape,
maintenance
of
public
and
private
views
and
matters
of
public
safety,
and
so
staff
is
recommending.
Denial
on
this
application
and
I
will
go
through
those
reasons.
In
a
minute.
E
This
is
the
house,
and
then
the
fence
is
proposed
to
start
at
the
North
facade
and
then
come
along
to
the
sidewalk,
where
it
curves
and
then
comes
over
to
the
south
by
the
driveway
and
then
back
towards
the
home,
the
fences
it's
it
would
be
about
51
feet
in
length
and
it's
proposed
as
a
gabion
wall,
which
I'll
show
some
images
done
on
the
next
slide.
You
can
see
on
these
dumb
graphics
here
that
they
are
proposing
a
step
stepped
back
design,
so
the
bottom
would
be
a
little
bit.
E
The
proposal
is
in
on
our
one:
five
thousand
zoning
district
and
the
surrounding
land
uses
are
all
single-family.
Besides
the
two
that
I
mentioned,
there
are
some
two
family
buildings
duplexes
mixed
in
there,
but
those
zone
is
largely
r15
thousand
surrounding
the
property
and
then
some
fights
some
site
photos.
This
is
the
subject
property.
This
is
the
front
yard
where
they
are
proposing
the
fence
and
it
would
come
along
here
along
the
sidewalk
and
then
come
back
and
then
some
contacts
photos
for
the
adjacent
properties.
E
This
is
the
property
to
the
south,
where
they
do
have
this
green
buffer
along
700
East.
This
is
their
backyard
and
then
their
front
yard
faces
the
other
street
right
there.
And
then
this
is
the
property
directly
adjacent
to
the
north.
As
you
can
see,
they
have
a
driveway
that
abuts
the
property,
and
then
there
are
two
more
homes
directly
to
the
north.
Ask.
E
So
four
special
exceptions:
they
must
meet
all
of
the
standards
of
the
ordinance,
so
the
special
exception
chapter
has
the
general
standards
and
as
well
as
what
they're
requesting
specific
standards-
and
you
can
see,
there's
a
there's,
eight
specific
standards
that
must
be
met
if
they're
requesting
a
special
exception
and
we
can
go
through
those.
But
the
applicant
is
definitely
meeting
standard
II
where
their
main
issues
are.
Traffic,
noise,
pollution,
they've
had
issues
with
trespassing
and
then
privacy
concerns,
which
is
why
they're
making
this
request-
and
that
does
me
standard
II,
but
I'm
staff.
E
We're
just
concerned
that
it's
not
meeting
a
few
of
the
standards
which
in
particular
standard
F,
which
is
keeping
with
the
character
of
the
neighborhood
and
design
of
the
city
and
then
particularly,
avoiding
a
Walden
effect
in
the
front
yard
for
community
character.
You
know
when
people
are
walking
down
the
sidewalk
general
that
they
want
to
have
open
views
of
front
lawns
in
and
out.
That's
a
part
of
the
community
character
of
the
neighborhood
and
the
Central
City
master
plan
doesn't
see
any
changes
to
single-family
residential
in
that
neighborhood.
E
So,
as
far
as
the
public
process,
initial
notifications
for
the
special
exception
were
sent
out
in
May,
and
we
heard
from
two
property
owners
nearby.
They
called
and
sent
emails
which
are
included
in
your
staff
report
and
then,
when
this
was
elevated
to
the
Planning
Commission,
additional
notice
was
sent
out
and
we
heard
from
several
more
residents.
Those
are
in
your
staff
report,
but
three
additional
comments
were
received
after
your
report
was
published
that
are
included
in
the
Dropbox
account.
Generally,
the
concerns
had
to
do
with
character
safety.
E
There
was
one
comment
that
was
in
support
of
the
proposal
and
the
rest
were
generally
against
it.
I
did
want
to
mention
that
you'll
notice,
in
the
comments
that
there
were
some
concerns,
brought
up
about
an
Airbnb
youth.
That
would
be
an
enforcement
case
and
that
one,
it
that's
a
separate
matter
than
this
issue,
but
we
are
aware-
and
it
was
brought
up
in
the
public
comments-
so
just
south
is
recommending
denial
because
it
doesn't
meet
the
standards
and
it
must
meet
the
standards
for
approval
and
so
based
on
our
recommendation.
That's
questions.
A
A
E
A
M
M
If
you
look
at
the
roof
lines,
all
the
roof
lines
are
oriented
east
to
west.
Our
roof
line
which
is
in
yellow,
is
oriented
north
to
south.
So
97
years
ago,
when
this
house
was
built,
it
was
built
as
a
duplex.
It
was
centered
on
the
lot
facing
the
other
way,
so
one
yard
was
in
the
back.
One
yard
is
in
the
front,
so
parking
and
yard
for
each
unit.
One
is
in
the
front
ones
the
back
gets
accessed
from
the
front
it's
accessed
from
the
back.
M
It's
completely
different
than
the
other
three
properties.
It's
also
an
improved
property
and
we
have
improved.
The
neighborhood
will
continue
to
improve
the
neighborhood.
All
the
properties
are
not
improved
and
I
think
we
need
to
protect
this
property
and
I'm
afraid
if
we
don't
we're
going
to
lose
them
all,
and
you
see
what
happens
to
little
houses
that
are
displaced
because
of
traffic
700
East
wasn't
what
it
was
97
years
ago.
M
These
houses
will
be
displaced,
I
would
imagine
they'll
get
knocked
down
at
some
point,
something
new
will
be
built
or
we're
going
to
protect
these
houses
and
we've
invested
in
this
property
we've
invested
in
the
neighborhood.
We
live
nine-tenths
from
this
house,
nine
tenths
of
a
mile
from
this
house
for
27
years.
We
have
purchased
this
as
a
piece
of
our
retirement.
M
M
We
are
kind
of
shocked
by
some
of
the
comments
from
our
neighbors
that
we
don't
know
have
never
met
all
but
to
our
renters
to
our
homeowners.
One
approves
one
does
not
approve.
We
had
no
information
about
the
phone
calls
or
whatever
you
received
after
the
fact.
I
know
you
all
drove
by
today
and
I
hope
you
got
a
flavor.
It
was
very
quickly.
M
We
were
there
waiting
for
you
all
to
get
a
flavor
in
the
character
of
the
neighborhood,
because
the
character
of
the
neighborhood
is
that
it's
an
expressway
47,000
cars,
a
day,
travel
by
our
house,
that's
17
million
cars
a
year
and
we're
asking
for
some
kind
of
protection
mitigation
of
road
noise
pollution
safety.
You
cannot
sit
in
the
front
yard
and
have
a
glass
of
wine.
M
You
can't
do
that
because
you
can't
hear
each
other
talking
when
we've
had
tenants
and
they
put
a
barbecue
out
front,
a
potted
plant,
it's
stolen
if
we
could
show
some
of
them.
This
is
just
from
this
week.
So
this
is
two
o'clock
in
the
morning.
Somebody
going
down
our
driveway
and
if
we
can
go
to
the
next
one,
this
is
it
Saturday
to
11:00
in
the
afternoon
somebody's
doing
something
in
our
driveway.
We
normally
get
two
to
three
of
these
a
week,
we'd
like
to
protect
ourselves
a
little
bit
better.
J
Been
working
in
the
area
for
27
years
like
we
said
this,
neighborhood
I
work,
trailer
in
the
driveway
and
it
was
stolen
and
we
were
downstairs
staying
the
night
downstairs
stolen,
so
there's
$20,000
of
our
family
family
history
of
work
is
just
stolen,
so
I
mean
this
is
this
is
pretty
tough
for
us.
There
was
a
big
hit
and
we're
just
trying
to
protect
our
investment,
we're
trying
to
beautified
the
property
trying
to
enhance
it
the
alley
in
the
back.
We
spend
a
lot
of
time
trying
to
clean
that
up.
J
We've
been
working
with
the
health
health
department,
Laura
would
tell
it
apart
me,
working
with
Dave
in
engineering,
David,
Jones
and
engineering,
and
he's
been
a
great
help.
It's
leading
up
the
trees
in
the
backyard
and
the
nobody
neighbors
have
said
any.
Thank
you
for
taking
these
dangerous
trees
down
or
trying
to
work
at
our
fill
the
potholes
in
the
back.
You
know
so
we're
vested
in
this
whole
property
and
and
the
surrounding
alleys
people.
You
know
if
anybody
needs
help,
we
would
help
them.
You
know
so
we're
invested.
J
We
want
to
feel
good.
We
want
to.
We
want
to
sit
out
front
and
and
and
and
enjoy
a
barbecue
and
I,
don't
get
why
people
it
can
can
look
into
our
private
area.
You
know
I
mean
I'm
not
on
display
for
everybody
to
look
at
that's
what
it
feels
like
you're
in
a
fishbowl,
so
I
just
would
like
you
guys
to
really
consider
everything
that
we
have
on
the
table
here.
I
think
Heidi
has
worked
very
hard
about
all
the
bullet
points
and
everything
about
everything
about
that.
E
M
It
doesn't
address
the
driveway
does
it,
but
two
weeks
ago
the
camera
went
off.
We
went
down
there,
it's
about
four
o'clock
in
the
afternoon,
and
somebody
had
moved
onto
the
steps
in
the
driveway
I
mean
they
had
moved
in
within.
We
had
been
there
that
morning,
if
you
are,
is
time:
okay,
you're
on
the
driveway,
but
if
you're
in
the
yard,
where
a
tenant
has
maybe
their
children
or
their
pets
or
a
chaise
lounge,
and
somebody
moves
in
on
that-
that's
very
different
than
somebody
trying
to
move
in
on
your
driveway.
M
In
my
opinion,
you're,
giving
some
secure
private
space
to
someone.
We
can't
secure
the
entire
property.
We
can't
stop
people
walking
up
and
down
our
driveway,
but
that's
an
indication
of
the
type
of
people
that
are
walking
in
our
neighborhood.
It's
not
people
aren't
walking
down.
700
East
walking
their
dogs,
so
much
I
mean
they
do
I
know
some
people.
They
do
mostly
it's
transient
people
using
7th
as
an
artery
between
13th
and
17th.
So
we
can't
protect
it
all,
but
we
can
give
some
protective
space.
Some
sense
of
safety
and
security
is.
C
J
J
N
C
M
E
C
M
M
A
lot
of
your
legal
fences,
I
think
well
700
East,
and
we
don't
want
to
go
that
route.
Okay,
we
want
to
be
upfront,
we
want
to
be
legal.
Okay,
we
need
a
six-foot
fence,
we're
here,
putting
the
time
and
the
effort
and
asking
you
for
that,
six-foot
fence,
we
know.
Legally,
we
can
build
this
whole
thing
to
4
feet.
We
know
we
can
do
that.
We're
asking
for
2
more
feet.
Okay,
any
other.
A
K
Good
evening
my
name
is
Jorden
Horrocks
I'm,
the
property
owner
our
next
door,
15:30
south
on
700
East,
just
the
one
to
the
north
they're
incorrect.
My
home
is
not
a
duplex.
My
family
lives.
There
I
have
two
children
under
three
but
I
disagree
on
several
of
these
points.
The
sound
I
mean
it's
it's
kind
of
ridiculous
at
times
when
you
get
harley-davidsons
flooring,
it
down
the
street,
but
my
wife
and
I
garden
out
front
a
good
portion
at
the
time.
My
main
issue
is
the
safety
I've
got
it.
K
I
took
a
picture
this
morning,
I
don't
know
if
I
can
hand
this
around,
but
I
don't
have
enough
for
everyone,
but
it's
just
either
way.
If
I'm
pulling
forward
or
pulling
out
of
my
driveway
they've
put
a
fence
which
I
don't
know
if
you
need
a
permit,
but
I
don't
know
if
it's
up
to
code
either,
but
the
fence
itself
obstructs
the
view
pulling
out
of
my
driveway
quite
substantially
and
then
I've
kind
of
drawn
where
the
wall
will
be,
and
it's
gonna
completely
block
the
view.
K
We
have
a
neighbor
like
a
ten
year
old
boy
whose
scooters
back
and
forth
and
we
won't
be
able
to
see
him.
We've
got
those
electric
scooters
that
can
go
15
miles
an
hour.
We
got
bikes,
they're
gonna
be
flying
back
and
forth,
no
matter
how
careful
we
are,
we
won't
be
able
to
see
until
our
car
is
halfway
into
the
road
or
not
halfway
into
the
road
halfway
across
the
sidewalk
and
no
matter
how
careful
we
are,
they
can
plow
into
the
side
of
our
car.
K
Another
thing
is
this:
the
sidewalk
after
their
house,
it
cuts
in
full
I.
Think
if
the
sidewalks
four
feet,
then
it
cuts
in
four
feet.
So
it's
gonna
completely
block
the
view
of
the
entire
sidewalk
after
this
15:38
after
their
property.
It's
going
to
completely
block
the
view,
so
that
is
all
I
have.
Thank
you.
Thank.
O
K
O
K
Been
living
there
for
five
years
I
also
they
talk
about
the
sound
and
it
makes
the
property
difficult
to
rent
I
rent
out
a
portion
of
my
home
as
an
Adu
and
I've
never
had
any
complaints
about
sound.
We've
never
had
any
security
issues.
We've
never
had
a
theft.
Trans
I've
never
seen
transients,
really
the
way.
I've
seen
a
lot
of
dog
walkers
on
our
Road.
Okay.
A
O
O
We
have
I
just
want
to
say
that
it's
really
hard
to
hear
people
put
down
700
East
a
lot,
because
it's
actually
a
really
nice
friendly
neighborhood.
If
you
guys
drove
by
you,
could
see
that
people
really
care
about
their
homes
and
really
go
out
of
our
ways
to
make
sure
that
it's
mode
I,
I,
rent
there
but
I
I
do
all
of
the
flowers.
I
have
I
plant
every
year,
I
water,
every
night,
I
sit
out
and
have
a
glass
of
wine.
O
O
I
have
no
plans
on
moving
from
700
East
I,
really
love
living
there.
I
can't
imagine
why
you
would
want
to
put
a
wall
that
big
in
front
of
the
property
I
also
like
to
comment
that
recently
there
were
three
big
pine
trees
that
were
planted
there,
and
they
were
just
got
taken
out
of
the
1538
property.
It's
almost
like
trying
extra
hard
to
make
it
look
as
ugly
as
possible.
M
M
M
Safe
I'm,
sorry,
it's
past
engineering
we've
gone
down
and
talked
to
the
building
services.
Okay,
so
it
meets
everything
that's
supposed
to
meet
as
far
as
cutting
down
three
trees
when
we
purchased
the
property,
we
removed
three
dangerous
trees
between
Jordans
house
in
our
house
and
we
have
planted
11
trees.
We
deployed
in.
J
M
I
J
That,
as
far
as
sharing
I
mean,
if
you
have
a
neighbor,
you
want
to
share
the
cost
or
talk
about
or
do
some
work
help.
There
was
no
help
at
all
for
Tim.
He
just
didn't,
have
nothing
to
do
with
it
and
I
just
can't
understand
why.
So
we
kept
trying
to
build
a
fence
to
get
our
privacy
he
had,
and
now
he
enjoys
the
fence
that
we
built,
because
he
has
this
pole
our
trees
up
in
there,
but
he's
not
grateful
at
all
for
that
that
we
helped
to
prove
his
property
as
well
or.
A
A
J
L
E
L
J
L
J
J
E
B
A
A
C
C
L
L
C
That
was
my
I
mean
I,
understand
appreciate
the
you
know:
the
desire
for
some
sound
sort
of
barriers
and
stuff,
but
I
also
you'll
end
up.
Why
wouldn't
we
put
a
sound
barrier
and
it
won't
anyhow
long
7th
east
and
then
everyone
who's
gonna
put
up,
even
if
maybe
it's
four
feet
six
feet
back
wherever
it
is.
C
We
end
up
with
sound
barriers
I'm
both
in
front
of
all
these
houses
that
go
up
and
down
that
are
kind
of
ad-hoc
put
in
and
I
just
think
that
you
in,
but
you
do
enough
of
that
caned
effect.
That's
why
the
code
is
written,
the
way
it
is
and
why
the
standard
is
applies,
and
so
you
know
the
house
to
the
suicide
is
a
you
know,
is
one
of
those
corner.
C
Lots
and
we've
talked
about
those
corner
Lots
and
because
you
live
in
a
corner
light,
you
get
to
choose
which
sides
your
front
or
back
yard
and
it
kind
of
applies.
You
know
that
I
don't
think
that
the
corner
Lots
apply
here
and
I
just
think
yeah
I.
What
the
precedent
you
set
with
having
Pinchot
walls
up
and
down,
is
why
I
was
willing
to
make
the
motion.
I
I
A
P
Thank
You
chairperson,
so
this
request
is
for
a
condition
or
a
commercial
parking
lot
for
a
new
Mountain
America
credit
union
located
at
1225,
South
redwood
road.
The
property
is
in
a
corridor
commercial
zoning
district
and
within
the
zoning
district.
A
commercial
parking
lot
is
a
conditional
use.
The
previous
use
was
also
a
financial
institution
with
three
drive-thru
bays
and
25
parking
stalls
and
there's
also
an
existing
telecommunication
tower.
That's
located
on
the
southeast
corner
of
the
lot.
P
This
proposal
is
to
create
35
or
excuse
me,
39
stalls
on
the
site
in
the
off
street
parking
standards
in
the
city
code,
there's
a
maximum
number
of
parking
stalls
allowed
and
for
a
financial
institution
with
the
square
footage
that
the
applicant
is
proposing
that
maximum
number
of
stalls
is
10.
The
commercial
parking
lot
will
hold
the
remaining
29
stalls.
All
of
those
proposed
stalls
will
be
located
to
the
back
of
the
building
and
away
from
the
street.
P
The
commercial
parking
stalls
or
the
commercial
parking
lot
stalls
and
the
required
parking
stalls
will
be
separated
by
landscaping,
but
the
overall
circulation
and
function
of
the
parking
lot
will
see
will
act
as
a
single
lot
landscaping.
The
applicant
has
provided
landscaping
on
the
commercial
parking
lot
that
will
exceed
the
minimum
standards
generally,
the
minimum
interior
parking
lot.
Landscaping
is
5%
that
we
required.
The
proposal
will
include
20%
interior
park
amount,
landscaping
and
the
buffer
area
to
the
east
of
the
property.
P
That's
adjoining
a
single-family
residential
neighborhood
generally
that
buffer
is
7
feet
and
with
at
least
a
4
foot
tall
fence.
The
applicant
is
proposing
a
17
foot
buffer
with
a
six
foot
tall,
solid,
vinyl
fence,
all
of
the
landscaping
and
commercial
parking
lot.
Standards
are
meeting
city
code
requirements,
as
can
be
found
on
attachment.
F
of
the
staff
report.
F
P
F
I
H
Record
Shayne,
Sanders,
Sanders
and
associate
architects
representing
Mountain
America
credit
union
I
just
want
to
give
you
a
little
history
of
this
location.
Mountain
America
credit
union
acquired
this
branch
in
2001
in
a
merger
with
another
financial
institution,
so
it's
an
older
building
that
they
acquired
it's
old
and
antiquated
they've
outgrown
it
since
that
merger.
This
this
particular
location,
has
become
one
of
their
top
producers,
it's
in
the
top
three
as
far
as
monthly
transactions.
So
there's
a
lot
of
traffic
that
comes
to
this
location.
H
They
presently
have
25
stalls
that
the
parking
ordinance
now
would
only
allow
10
and
meeting
in
the
DRTV.
This
was
the
only
recommendation
that
they
could
give
us
to
get
our
numbers
up
to
where
we
need
them
to
meet.
The
the
existing
need
was
was
to
ask
for
commercial
parking,
so
it'll
only
be
used
by
the
credit
union,
there's
no
intent
to
to
rent
or
lease
these
parking
stalls.
H
It
was
the
only
means
that
the
DRT
committee
could
see
that
we
could
achieve
and
the
necessary
stalls
they
need
to
do
business
and
we're
not
going
to
purple
there's
not
going
to
be
any
more
parking
or
any
more
traffic
than
they
already
have
we're
just
providing
those
stalls
that
they
need
with
this
new
facility.
So
we
don't
have
people
parking
in
in
the
drives
and
I
had
some
pictures
here,
showing
those
situations
but
I
can't
get
that
to
come
up
on
the
screen.
H
So
yes,
we're
asking
for
this
commercial
parking,
so
we
can
have
the
39
stalls
that
we
need
to
do
business
and
we've
done
things
to
to
improve
the
site.
As
mentioned
with
the
landscaping,
we've
created
a
dense
buffer
between
the
residential
to
the
east
they've
made
a
large
investment
in
the
landscaping
on
this
new
project
presently,
and
if
you
toured
the
site
that
East
portion
is
undeveloped,
when
they
bought
that
it
was
undeveloped,
it's
just
weeds,
there's,
probably
a
50-foot
area
on
the
east
side,
that
is
just
weeds.
That
will
be
now
parking
and
landscaping.
H
H
Correct
I
mean
to
get
the
thirty
nine
parking
stalls
that
they
presently
are
getting
cars
coming
in
there
and
parking.
Yes,
so
we're
not
really
changing
the
numbers,
we're
just
providing
stalls
for
the
present
demand
and
there
they
would.
It
would
be
a
much
safer
situation,
they're
not
parking
in
the
aisles
they
get
him
parking
in
front
of
the
dumpster
and
the
drive-thru
on
the
periphery
of
the
drive-thru
likes.
It's
a
very
high
transaction
branch
in
the
top
three
of
their
organization.
H
So
they
had
a
lot
of
traffic
at
this
location
and
we're
just
trying
to
provide
parking
for
that
that
traffic
and
we've
tried
to
do
I
guess
an
above
average
landscaping
plan
to
create
a
better
environment
than
Saul
ready.
There
create
a
very
nice
buffer
to
the
residents
behind
them
with
trees,
dense
trees,
along
that
property
line,
they're
going
to
provide
a
new
fence
around
the
cell
tower.
That
is
not
chain-link.
It's
presently
chain-link
they're
going
to
do
a
decorative
fence
around
that.
A
A
I
My
name
is
Silvia
campus
I
live
in
the
property
on
the
inside
one
of
the
properties
on
this
side
of
the
proposal,
constructions,
I
wonder
about
them
under
the
proposal
Constitution
there
this,
how
you
call
that
place
where
the
Train
chorus
goes
before
go
to
the
drains.
It's
on
the
south
side
and
the
proportion
now.
J
I
Rotation
pod,
because
in
the
actual
property
there's
two
retention
port
to
change
the
ponds
one
of
the
south,
like
the
man,
is
showing
on
the
proposal
in
the
same
site
like
that,
but
one
of
the
north,
the
property.
We
will
have
more
water
to
retain
after
the
drains
before
go
to
the
drains
and
I
suppose
they
do
the
research
about
that.
I
wonder
what
this
is
all
the
same.
I
Less
than
the
written
retaining
place
for
waters,
we
have
more
large
as
faulted
and
welded
property,
and
also
it
want
to
be
clear
about
how
tall
would
be
the
buffer
on
the
east
side
of
the
proposal.
Because
that's
where
my
house
is
and
then
I
wonder,
which
not
only
what
the
traffic
is
at
the
noise
and
heat
on
the
summer
coming
from
the
asphalt
under
all
the
Constitution.
How
longer
will
take
tape
to
do
that
and
then
how?
Much?
If
you
do
not
want
to
build
in
well
everything
in
and
then
pull
that.
A
A
N
I'm
Florence
ecampus,
Ibrahim,
Silvio's
daughter,
all
of
her
family
lives
in
the
house
right
on
the
northeast
corner.
We
share
a
fence
with
that
lot.
As
my
father
was
saying,
there
are
two
the
drainage,
while
retainage
areas
for
drainage.
We
are
just
a
few
blocks
from
the
Jordan
River,
so
that
area
is
surrounded.
My
house
is
here:
the
law
is
here
and
then
there's
redwood
road
on
the
other
side
of
that
the
river
flows,
as
well
as
a
long
several
blocks
east,
where
there's
the
trail,
the
jordan
river
trail.
N
So
that's
definitely
a
concern
for
me
as
well.
We
are
five
that
live
in
that
house
and
all
of
the
families
that
live
there,
there's
about
four
houses
they
all
do
have
at
least
four
people
in
each
home
was
also
concerned
from
them.
My
dad
have
had
the
father
was
saying
the
buffer
between
our
fence
and
where
the
asphalt
starts.
We
would
like
to
clarify
where
that
is
also.
This
is
a
very
highly
trafficked
credit
union
location
I.
Do
wonder
how
many
ATM
stalls
there
will
be.
It
looks
like
they
will
have
four.
N
N
Often
we
can
Knights,
we
see
a
lot
of
cars
parked
there
I
see
them
because
that's
my
window,
my
window
face
is
not
credit
union.
So
that
is
definitely
a
concern.
As
the
architect
said
there
is.
It
is
a
highly
trafficked
location,
so
I
understand
they
want
to
serve
their
customers,
but
it
also
means
that
it's
right
in
my
backyard
I
do
not
see
any
reason
to
think
that
this
will
not
increase
the
traffic
of
people
that
drive
by
closer
to
my
house
and
also,
of
course,
that
use
the
credit
union
services.
Thank.
A
O
My
name
is
Alejandra
Maloney
and
I'm
part
of
their
family.
I
live
in
that
house
as
well,
and
one
of
my
concerns
is
how
long
that
this
construction
will
take
what
will
be
their
hours
of
operation
Monday
through
Friday,
how
loud
it
will
be,
what
type
of
machinery
they'll
have.
We
have
an
animal
pet
that
likes
to
go
to
that
part
of
a
lot
that
doesn't
have
asphalt
so
and
we
found
him
outside,
so
we
can't
really
make
him
be
an
inside
cat.
O
So
that's
one
of
my
concerns
I
want
to
know
the
hours
of
operation
that
they
will
have
because
I
want
to
make
him
a
safe
as
part
as
possible.
So
I
want
to
keep
him
inside
Ellie's
during
the
part
of
the
day
when
it
will
be
construction
during
the
construction.
So
those
are
my
main
concerns.
Okay,
thank
you.
I
O
O
I
A
H
The
image
on
the
screen
you
can
see
the
at
the
bottom
of
that
image
is
that
long,
linear
area.
That
is
the
existing
retention
pond
that
is
depressed
into
the
ground.
Presently,
there's
one
that
mimics
that
on
the
north
side,
that
is
going
away
and
we're
putting
that
retention
underground
in
piping,
which
is
typical.
So
it's
it's
an
underground
piping,
that
we
retain
that
water,
large
large
pipes
and
that's
how
we're
making
up
losing
that
retention
to
the
north.
H
The
ATM
there's
presently
there's
a
canopy
of
small
structure
on
the
north
side.
That
has
an
ATM
in
it.
We
are
adding
a
second
ATM,
but
it's
in
the
drive
up
canopy,
which
is
attached
to
the
branch
so
off
of
that
that
new
branch
to
the
north
there's
a
covered
canopy
and
those
first
two
lanes
are
ATMs
one
in
the
building
and
then
one
on
that
first
Island,
the
three
to
the
north
of
the
outer
bat
tubes.
H
They
had
a
question
on
on
the
landscaping
between
our
property
and
the
residents
to
the
east
I
think
in
that
mentioned,
it's
a
17
foot
buffer
and
then
we
have
planted
trees
quite
dense,
right
up
against
the
fence
and
then
planting
lower
planting
to
the
west
of
that.
It's
it's
very
dense
planting
buffer
and
you're
gonna.
H
H
H
H
H
H
L
To
the
architect,
yeah
I
have
a
feeling
that
this
aerial
is
a
little
bit
out
of
proportion,
so
I'm
trying
to
wrap
my
head
around
how
this
is
going
to
layout
is
the
size
of
the
building,
roughly
the
same
as
what
you're
going
to
you're
going
to
basically
take
that
same
square
footage
you're,
just
moving
it.
If.
H
The
footprint
is
a
little
larger
in
the
new
building.
The
existing
building
has
a
basement
and
that's
one
of
the
other
drivers
in
removing
this
building
is.
It's
got
a
basement.
There's
a
high
water
table
here
and
they've
had
water
problems
and
mold
problems
in
that
basement,
which
is
created
in
a
bad
environment
to
work
in
so
overall
square
footage
it's
similar,
but
the
basement
is
unusable
in
this
existing
facility.
H
L
How
what
is
the
footage
of
this
eastern
portion
that
is
currently
dirt,
because
I
think
this
aerial
makes
it
might
be
making
it
look
like
it's
a
lot
bigger
than
it
is
because
I
really
dislike
such
large
surfing
parking,
lots
I!
Think
we
get
impermeable
surfaces,
we
get.
You
know
heat
islands
and
the
thought
of
like
concentrating
this
parking
lot
and
making
it
bigger
kind
of
just
concerning
and.
A
L
L
G
I
can
add
a
little
bit
of
perspective
here.
Typically,
a
drive
aisle
with
parking
on
both
sides
is
depending
on
how
wide
the
stalls
are.
Each
stall
is
usually
20
feet,
there's
usually
I,
think
24
feet
of
drive
aisle
and
then
another
20
feet.
So,
if
you
add
that
up
a
drive
lane,
you
know
parking
lot
is
anywhere
from.
You
know:
60
to
70
feet
wide,
a
single
yeah.
A
L
Generally,
I'm,
actually
very
much
in
favor
of
moving
buildings
closer
to
sidewalks
I.
Think
that's
a
much
better
design,
but
I
do
I
did
respond.
I.
Think
one
of
the
comments
that
one
of
the
neighbors
made
does
concern
me
in
that
they
have
people
that
are
parking
there
at
night
that
by
putting
the
parking
in
the
back,
how
are
you
going
to
address
lighting
in
a
way
to
deter
now
they're
going
to
be
hidden
behind
right,
and
if
this
is
an
area
where
they're
already
kind
of
hanging
out
and.
D
H
And
that's
always
a
sensitive
balance,
trying
to
create
enough
light
for
security,
but
not
have
that
trespass
on
to
joining
properties.
The
lighting
will
be
better
we're
adding
new
parking
lot
lights.
It
is
shielded
on
that
east
side,
so
you
don't
get
light
trespass.
So
in
the
fixture
we
shield
it
so
light,
can't
come
onto
their
property
and
then
I
think
the
trees
that
dense
row
of
trees
is
gonna
block
a
lot
of
that
light.
You.
H
H
L
Hope
when
this
can't
be
part
of
our
thing
about
that,
the
credit
union
then
would
maybe
have
a
continuing
dialogue
with
the
neighbors
of
like.
Are
you
noticing
things?
How
can
we
address
that?
Better
safety
is
I,
think
is
going
to
be
an
issue,
maybe
the
best
intentions
of
how
you
design
it
might
not
play
out,
but
so
you
will
be
doing
enough.
Lighting
and
you'll
have
cameras,
correct.
B
I,
don't
know
that
that's
really
what
this
is
being
used
for,
so
what
we're
really
allowing
is
them
to
have
more
parking
respondents
which
I
think
we're
pretty
critical
of
when
it
comes
to
a
lot
of
things
that
have
come
before
us
and
so
I,
don't
know
I'm
trying
to
kind
of
wrap
my
head
around
what
we're
being
asked
to
do,
because
it
feels
like
we're,
calling
it
something.
It's
not.
P
B
F
G
Is
one
of
the
issues
we're
having
with
our
parking
chapter?
Is
that
because
sometimes
the
minimums
are
set
so
low
and
I
believe
for
this
type
of
use?
It's
I
mean
it
might
be
one
per
thousand
or
two
per
thousand
I
can't
remember,
but
the
maximum
that
you
can
increase.
That
is
limited
to
basically
an
additional
stall
and
a
quarter
stall
and
a
half
so.
G
It's
really
not
a
meaningful
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we're
trying
to
actually
fix
with
the
parking
chapter
changes,
especially
in
areas
like
this
context.
It's
different
when
we're
in
you
know
downtown
versus
out
on
redwood
road,
but
yeah.
That's
that
that's
the
issue
that
we're
having
with
our
parking
chapter
in
terms
of
how
it's
going
to
be
used
for
them
to
be
a
commercial
parking
lot.
The
definition
says
there
has
to
be
some
sort
of
payment
form.
So
if
somebody.
F
G
H
B
B
E
L
G
C
C
G
C
C
G
G
G
The
mechanism
to
deal
with
that
is
an
enforcement
action
down
the
road,
and
so,
if
it
comes
out
that
this
is
approved
and
there's
not
a
commercial
function
to
it,
then
the
obligation
is
on
the
city
to
enforce
our
code
and
that
use
so
I.
Don't
think
necessarily
think
that
the
Planning
Commission
can
use
the
potential
of
somebody
not
using
it
as
a
commercial,
a
special
parking
lot
as
a
reason
to
say
no
to
it.
F
H
L
L
G
G
G
B
C
And
what
he's
looking
for
that?
There
have
been
times
that
we've
had
to
deal
with
conditional
uses
where
it
was
really
apparent
that
the
use
was
not
gonna,
be
I,
remember
distinctly
when
there
was
a
rental
that
was
coming
through
and
I
asked.
Those
who
were
here.
I
asked
the
guy
who
was
here,
who,
who
would
the
name
of
the
person
who
was
who's
renting,
a
room
from
that,
and
he
could
not
name
the
name
of
who
he
was
renting
a
room
to
to
prove
that
he
actually
lived
in
the
facility.
C
G
B
I
mean
I,
don't
think
we
have
a
choice.
I
mean
I'll,
make
a
motion
based
on
the
testimony
plans
presented
in
the
following
findings:
I
move
that
the
Planning
Commission
denied
the
conditional
use
request
from
out
America
Credit
Union
commercial
parking
lot
due
to
the
fact
that
it
is
not
a
commercial
parking
lot
and
is
not
qualify
for
conditional
use.
Consideration.
A
G
F
That's
exactly
right:
yeah,
there's
still
time
for
discussion,
I
mean
okay,
so
I
think
Matt.
You
and
I
are
gonna,
say
the
same
thing
go
ahead.
Just
maybe
we're
gonna
say
the
same
thing:
I!
Don't
understand
why
a
fee
I
mean
the
bank
is
charging
them
fees,
tour
for
being
a
member
I.
Don't
understand
why
that
can't
include
parking
that
to
me
as
he's
reading
it
I'm
like
check
check.
That
sounds
to
me
like
a
commercial
lot,
so.
F
L
K
C
Question
for
the
applicant:
how
do
you
feel
about
this
if
we
were
to
move
it
through
as
a
conditional
use,
permit
or
approve
it,
and
it's
now
in
an
enforcement
Scituate?
You
you
go
through
when
you
build
this
out
and
it's
now
an
enforcement
situation
and
your
neighbors
complain
right,
pushing
the
city
to
take
action.
C
Then
the
city
then
needs
to
make
that
decision
and
you're
in
a
limbo
spot
right,
whether
or
not
and
you've
invested
all
this
money
into
building
this
thing,
I
mean
how
I'm,
not
as
it
make
you
feel,
but
like
I,
mean
respond,
respond
to
that
problem,
for
me,
I
mean.
Is
that
and
you
may
not
be
the
right
person
to
ask
whether
or
not
it's
an
acceptable
business
grimmy.
C
H
My
perspective
we've
done
a
number
of
these.
This
is
going
to
be
a
huge
improvement
to
that
site
into
the
neighborhood.
The
commercial
parking
is
used
for
that
business,
so
it
in
my
mind
it
meets
that
definition
and
they
need
that
number
to
do
business
they're
using
they
have
that
many
cars
coming
into
that
that
property
now
and
I
think
the
credit
union
would
be
absolutely
willing
to
take.
H
C
K
K
Like
Shane
said,
I
mean
if
there
was
another
way
to
do
this.
We
would
be
happy
to
do
that
and
our
neighbors
are
members.
You
know
that's
our
community,
so
we
want
to
please
them
as
best
as
we
can
and
we're
definitely
conscientious
of
the
comments
that
were
made
by
the
neighbors
tonight
and
we'll
do
our
best
to
work
with
them
and
and
make
sure
that,
hopefully,
those
complaints
never
arise
to
where
it
would
be
at
code
enforcement
issue.
So.
F
K
C
G
Want
to
say
generally
no,
because
it's
not
it's
not
related
to
the
use.
The
constructions
gonna
happen
right
and
it's
part
of
that
there's
already.
The
county
already
has
noise
ordinances
and
things
like
that
that
regulate
hours
of
construction
equipment
and
things
like
that,
and
so
there
there's
already
some
things
in
place.
A
C
C
He
seemed
like
really
seemed
like
really
awful
people
who
are
looking
to
game
the
system,
but
based
on
the
information
step,
removal,
Planning,
Commission
approved
PLN
PCM
2019
0
0
44
regarding
Matt
America,
conditional,
create
use
with
with
Fon
modifications
and
the
list
of
the
conditions
to
be
modify.
It
I,
don't
sorry
what
the
conditions
listed
in
the
staff
report
do.
L
K
I
Q
Q
Q
Q
So
again,
the
city
moves
their
operations
to
a
new
facility
left
this
vacant,
the.
Since
that
time
the
city's
been
looking
and
exploring
options
to
sell
the
property
hasn't
been
sold.
Yet
the
zoning
in
place
wouldn't
support
redevelopment
for
the
city's
portion
of
the
block.
The
city's
portion
of
the
block
is
zoned
PL,
which
is
public
lands
which
is
intended
for
public
facilities,
so
it
wouldn't
allow
for
what
the
downtown
plan
missions
is
a
mixed-use
residential
commercial
mix
on
the
property.
So
we
need
to
look
at
rezoning.
Q
The
property
is
something
that
would
support
what
the
master
plan
says
should
be
going
on
here.
Additionally,
the
D
2.5
acres
in
the
corner
of
the
property
that's
privately
owned.
His
own
CG
CG
does
allow
for
private
development.
It
could
allow
for
mixed-use
development,
but
the
CG
Zone,
just
general
commercial,
has
no
design
standards
at
all.
It
just
has
bulk
standards,
so
you
have
setbacks,
you
have
Heights,
that's
it!
So
that's
why
we're
also
looking
at
rezoning
that
portion
of
the
block
in
this
whole
rezone.
Q
So
when
we
look
at
what
to
rezone
a
property,
we
do
look
at
master
plan
to
get
guidance
about
how
to
rezone
the
property.
So
the
downtown
plan
has
a
specific
paragraph,
all
about
the
fleet
block.
It
talks
about
demonstrating
the
best
of
urban
family
living
and
industry
on
the
site.
A
mix
of
land
uses
once
thought
to
be
incompatible
and
improved
connections,
which
means
mid
block
connections
on
the
block,
and
the
zoning
changes
would
support
a
true
mix
of
housing
options,
including
townhomes,
reuse
of
historic
buildings
and
mid-rise
development.
Q
So
we
look
at
that
in
formulating
what
the
zoning
should
look
like
on
this
property.
So
we
looked
at
the
surrounding
context.
To
the
east
of
the
property.
Is
the
foreign-based
urban
neighborhood
to
zone
which
allows
for
mixed-use
development
and
residential,
but
it's
fairly
low
scale?
It
goes
to
65
feet
at
the
corners,
but
generally
it's
limited
to
50
foot
of
height.
Q
We
also
looked
next
door,
which
is
the
d2
zone
and
d2
zoning
changes
have
come
through
the
Planning
Commission
they
haven't
been
adopted
yet,
but
they
incorporated
a
bunch
of
design
standards
into
the
D
2
zone.
The
problem
with
the
D
J's
own
is
it
allows
outdoor
car
sales
Lots,
which
isn't
envisioned
by
the
master
plan
for
this
property
or
the
surrounding
area,
and
the
D
2
zone
doesn't
allow
townhomes,
and
the
master
plan
specifically
calls
out
allowing
townhome
development
here.
Q
So
what
we're
proposing
is
the
form
based
urban
neighborhood
3
zone,
and
it
is
slightly
based
on
the
form
based
urban
neighborhood
2
zone.
That's
to
the
east.
The
key
things
are
that
it
allows
mid-rise
Heights.
It's
called
for
the
master
plan
gets
us
density
and
intensity
and
active
urban
neighborhood.
It
also
has
design
controls
can.
Q
H
G
L
L
Q
Q
L
K
L
Q
Q
The
downtown
plan
calls
for
the
residential
mixed
with
some
industry,
recognizing
that's
what's
going
on
here
in
The
Granary
area
and
they
could
be
compatible
with
design
controls
so
with
a
form-based
code
that
you
first
start
with
a
building
form
type,
and
then,
with
that
you
have
bulk
controls
on
setbacks
and
height
design
standards,
windows,
glass,
building
materials,
you
have
the
standard,
land
uses
streetscape
improvements
and
then
parking
in
signs
as
well.
Yes,.
L
Q
L
Q
L
Q
Okay,
so
the
major
component
of
a
form-based
code
is
the
building
form
types.
In
this
case,
we
have
generally
three
forms
that
we're
proposing
to
allow
one
is
the
row
row
house
or
a
townhome
and
again
that
goes
back
to
the
downtown
master
plan
policies.
The
next
one
is
actually
three
different
types,
but
they're
fairly,
similar,
so
I've
grouped
them
here.
Q
As
far
as
height
standards,
bulk
standards
for
row
house,
it's
the
lowest
scale
of
the
building
forms
up
to
40
feet
of
height.
It
has
an
open
space
requirement.
Recognizing
that
residential
uses
need
open
space.
It
does
allow
for
greater
setbacks
in
the
other
building
form,
recognizing
that
you
may
want
a
front
yard
with
a
townhome.
Why.
G
D
C
Q
An
urban
context
it
may
not
make
as
much
sense
here
to
have
a
height
limit.
Naturally,
with
a
row
house
you're,
probably
not
going
to
get
something
over
three
or
four
feet.
There
are
three
or
four
gap
stories,
but
we
originally
were
considering.
Would
we
limit
it
to
30
feet?
30
feet
has
run
into
problems
because
people
want
to
do
a
deck
on
top
and
then
they
can't
do
it
if
we
limit
it
on
30
feet,
so
we've
put
it
at
40
feet,
but
height
limit
may
not
make
sense,
potentially.
Q
As
far
as
the
bulk
standards
for
limited
Bay
and
mix
juice
multi-family,
so
it's
a
little
small
but
the
limited
Bay
it
does
allow
for
that
loading
dock
on
the
front
of
the
building.
The
trade-off
with
that
would
be.
There
would
be
a
height
limitation
of
50
feet
for
the
building
and
any
portions
taller
that
50
feet
would
have
to
be
setback
and
would
have
to
go
to
the
Planning
Commission
for
review,
and
that
again
is
tried
to
reflect
the
nearby
industrial
building
context
where
they're
generally
not
taller
than
50
feet.
Q
Q
L
A
Q
L
Q
L
Q
Q
So,
as
far
as
design
standards,
you've
seen
two
proposals
with
design
centers
come
through
the
sugarhouse
business
district
zone
and
the
d2
zone.
These
design
standards
that
are
in
place
in
the
code
right
now
are
very
similar
to
the
design
centers
for
those
for
those
zones.
It
covers
entry,
very
installation.
You
have
to
choose
and
install
certain
entryway
features
in
your
building.
There's
glass
minimums
blank
wall
limits,
building
material
minimums,
and
this
one
there's
a
couple:
unique
ones
of
balcony
requirements
for
residential
units
on
taller
buildings.
Q
There's
the
same
parking
structure,
design
standards
we
have
four
other
zones
and
there's
also
unique
thing-
is
a
build
to
alternative
in
the
form
based
code.
You
are
required
to
build
up
to
the
sidewalk.
Generally,
it's
within
five
or
ten
feet.
The
build
to
line
alternative
allows
people
to
potentially
put
in
a
active
restaurant
patio
up
to
the
sidewalk
in
lieu
of
having
the
building
face
right
up
to
the
sidewalk.
It
allows
for
some
flexibility
for
those
sorts
of
activities.
Q
So
the
other
unique
thing
here
is
the
proposed
land
uses.
It's
pretty
broad.
The
intent
is
that
the
design
standards
with
limited
in
it
any
negative
impacts.
You
wouldn't
get
the
old-school
min
dust
reeling
snow
that
are
metal,
prefab
buildings,
putting
up
with
outdoor
uses
that
could
cause
noise
and
light
impacts,
so
the
lowest
intensity.
You
can
have
townhomes
multi-family
residential
middle
bars,
restaurants,
office,
retail,
breweries
highest.
You
go
with
industrial
assembly,
which
is
putting
preassembled
parts
together
and
light
manufacturing
which
dis
manufacturing
with
no
external
noise
light
exhaust
and
indoors.
Q
The
other
general
components
of
the
zoning
would
be
the
parking
streetscape
ensign
requirements
dry,
there
would
be
driveway
and
parking
location
limits.
Parking
would
be
limited
to
the
side
of
a
building
behind
the
front
facade
or
totally
behind
the
building.
There's
the
wider
sidewalk
requirement.
Generally,
the
commercial
zones
only
require
five
or
six
feet
or
requirement.
We
would
require
eight
feet
for
this
area
street
trees.
Every
30
feet
is
pretty
standard
requirement.
Q
The
other
unique
thing
is
mid
block
walkways
the
downtown
plan
maps
out
where
the
mid
block
walkway
should
be
in
this
area
and
in
the
zoning
code
it
would
require
someone
to
actually
dedicate
or
build
a
mid
block
walkway
through
their
development
if
it's
shown
on
their
property
on
the
downtown
master
plan.
As
far
as
signing
allowances
go,
it's
very
similar
to
existing
form
based
zones,
and
there
are
some
of
our
downtown
zones.
Q
Q
We
are
going
to
publish
a
draft
of
the
full
code
for
public
feedback
and
send
it
out
to
everyone
that
gave
us
their
contact
information
at
the
open
house.
We
expect
to
make
changes
and
we'd
bring
this
back
to
the
Commission
later
in
the
fall
with
those
changes,
the
intent
is
to
come
back
with
a
proposal
for
a
recommendation.
Q
Q
Considered
it,
but
the
fleet
block
is
like
a
priority
site
to
get
the
zoning
in
place,
so
we
can
actually
sell
the
property.
It's
been
I,
think
nine
years
now,
since
this
remained
vacant
and
expanding
this
out
to
the
rest
of
the
CG
could
cause
other
issues
and
other
things.
We
need
to
look
at
with
this
zoning.
So
in
order
to
keep
this
simplified,
we've
restricted
it
just
to
the
fleet
block
see
if
it
works.
L
G
Don't
plan
on
waiting
too
long,
it's
it's!
We
we
want
to
get
this
in
place
and
almost
immediately
start
with
the
rest
of
it,
but
because
it
includes
such
a
big
area,
it's
something
like
26
blocks
or
something
like
that.
So
many
property
owners
and
businesses
that
we'd
have
to
talk
to
you
and
figure
things
out
with
that.
It's
going
to
take
months
and
months
and
months
of
engagement
to
deal
with
that,
and
so
that's
why
we
decided
to
focus.
G
L
Q
And
just
for
additional
context,
this
zoning
proposal
isn't
the
end-all
be-all
for
the
development
on
the
city's
portion
of
the
block.
Once
the
zoning
is
in
place,
the
city
can
then
sell
the
property,
but
generally
the
city
is
part
of
the
sale,
further
controls.
What
the
development
will
look
like
and
attach
all
sorts
of
conditions
on
the
development.
G
So
last
last
I
heard
the
plan
was
to
go
out
to
basically
parcel
eyes.the.
The
city-owned
piece
get
the
streets
in
place,
the
mid
block
connections
and
then
go
out
for
we
call
we
call
them
rfqs
to
get
qualifications
and
proposals
for
each
site.
So
well,
we'll
set
some
parameters
about
what
should
happen.
B
You
kind
of
just
answered
my
question,
but
I'm
just
gonna
ask
anyway,
because
it
was
in
my
head:
I
have
to
get
out
if
the
city
continues
to
have
control,
that's
great,
because
I
think
you
know
it
is
such
an
opportunity
with
such
a
big
parcel
to
do
something
cool
with
it
and
I.
Think
the
form
based
code
has
the
potential
to
do
that,
but
it
feels
like
I
mean
it
also
has
the
potential
to
just
be
a
whole
bunch
of
townhouses
right.
B
B
I,
just
you
know,
I
just
think
that
it
is,
it
is
a
cool
space
and
and
I
do
and
I
love
the
form
based
code.
I
actually
think
it
does
have
the
potential
to
create
just
a
mix
of
everything
in
an
area,
but
it
also
feels
like
it
has
the
potential
to
potentially
be
a
little
home
with
being
just
maybe
townhouses
and
residential
spaces,
and
then
that's
it
because
it
doesn't,
it
doesn't
seem
to
set
the
base
as
high
as
I.
Think
I
would
want
it
to
be
well.
C
You've
I
mean
really
the
ability
to
create
a
neighborhood,
an
entirely
new,
distinct
part
of
the
city,
because
you
know
it
is
one
landowner
on
one
large
block:
whatever
happens,
there
can
define
what
happens
totally
everywhere
else
in
that
area,
I
mean
you.
Could
it
could
be
another
sugar
house
or
another?
You
know
another
place
that
you
really
could
define
that
defines
a
certain
area
yeah.
B
Q
B
I
B
B
L
A
whole
block
of
townhomes:
if
we
don't
incentivize
that
opportunity
to
diversify
what
goes
in
there,
then
then,
maybe
you
get
a
stronger
leaning
towards
all
townhomes,
so
it's
so
incentivizing
it
isn't
directing
that
it
has
to
not
be
townhomes,
but
that
if
a
developer
wants
a
certain
parcel
whatever
and
they
feel
like
there's
they
could
do
something
else
on
it.
They
have
some
incentives
built
in
to
whatever
to
do
something
different
to
mix
it
up.
I
hope
is
that
doing
it.
That
way
would
would
yield
a
real
mixed
use
approach.
Q
G
That's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
also
want
to
take
our
time
to
make
sure
that
the
zoning
works
for
the
district
as
a
whole,
so
that
we
can
do
that.
You
know
one
of
the
things
that
there
are
a
number
of
cities.
The
first
that
comes
to
mind
is
Vancouver,
which
is
managed
to
utilize
a
number
of
town
homes
in
their
walkable
core,
but
they
use
them
to
help
space
out
their
towers,
so
that
they're
not
shading
constantly.
L
L
Q
L
Then
I
think
that's
yeah
appropriate
to
look
at.
How
are
we
gonna
have
direct
real
mixed-use
throughout
and
then
the
developer
can
decide
what's
really
appropriate
what
they
think
really
works
for
that
specific
particular
spot
or
parcel,
but
that
we
are
making
it
a
lively
place
and
you
don't
make
it
a
lively
place
of
you
just
have
all
of
townhomes
to.