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A
What
I
was
asked
today,
I
think
our
organization
is
presenting
about
once
a
month
just
providing
data
to
the
council
on
various
issues
or
events
in
the
Utah
Salt
Lake,
City,
Salt,
Lake,
County
economies
and
I
was
asked
just
a
touch
a
bit
on
a
opportunity
index
that
we
developed
about
three
or
four
years
ago.
We
have
updated
it
it
it's
the
first
map
on
the
handout,
and
this
was
developed
in
combination
with
HUD
and
HUD,
had
developed
a
they
were
very
they
four
or
five
years
ago.
A
A
What
we
have
done
is
looked
at
the
building
permit
activity
at
a
very
detailed
micro
level
and
assigned
the
types
of
units
and
then
assume
some
vacancy
rates
and
an
occupancy
and
who's
renting
and
so
on
to
come
up
with
the
the
renters
now
the
reason
I
focusing
on
renters,
they
are
the
most
vulnerable
venerable
population.
In
my
view,
the
housing
we
hear
a
lot
about
housing
crisis.
The
housing
crisis
is
really
those
folks
who
are
under
the
median
income
and
primarily
renters.
A
A
But
if
you
flip
over
or
go
to
the
the
maps
on
the
backside,
we
can
infer
a
little
bit
about
income
based
on
where
the
section
8
voucher
holders
where
they
are
located,
as
well
as
where
the
Rena
system
projects
are
located.
Now
the
VAP
about
the
section
8
voucher
program
in
order
to
qualify,
you
have
to
have
an
income
below
50%
area,
median
income
so
over
in
Table
four.
That
shows
you
what
the
upper
limit
would
be
now
for
a
family
of
four.
A
The
upper
limit
would
be
24,000
almost
$25,000,
so
a
family
of
four
under
$25,000
would
be
considered
extremely
extremely
low
income
household
and
that
house
hold
is
not
just
at
50%.
They
are
at
30%
of
the
area
median
income.
So,
okay,
thanks
so
yeah,
that's
Table!
Four
here
split
there
and
these
again
they
are
extremely
low-income,
30%
ami.
This
is
the
group
that
is
most
vulnerable
and
also
most
in
need
and
the
most
difficult
to
reach,
and
also
when
I
say
most
vulnerable.
That
is
the
most
vulnerable
to
homelessness.
A
Both
the
vouchers
and
the
affordable
projects,
the
rent
assistance
projects
are
90
percent
of
those
are
located
in
moderate
to
low
to
very
low
income
census
tracts,
and
even
though
there
are
rental
units
and
we've
looked,
there's
25
25
percent
of
the
rental
units
are
in
the
high
opportunity
areas,
the
very
low
income
for
lots
of
reasons.
Primarily,
though,
rental
rates
cannot
afford
to
live
in
a
high
opportunity
area,
even
the
voucher
holders-
and
this
is
an
issue
nationally
and
they've
done.
A
Some
studies
on
voucher
holders
tend
to
stay
in
low-income
areas,
low
opportunity
areas,
even
though
they
do
have
a
voucher.
If
they
could
find
a
unit
of
an
apartment
project
that
would
accept
a
voucher,
they
could
move
to
a
higher
opportunity
area.
But
for
some
some
reasons
they
tend
to
stay.
Those
households
tend
to
stay
in
low
opportunity
areas.
The
Seattle
I
think
it
is,
has
actually
had
a
program
where
they
provide
counseling
service
and
us
a
service
to
the
voucher
holder
to
let
them
know
where
else
they
could
possibly
live.
A
But
just
just
editorial
comment
over
the
years
that
I've
worked
on
affordable
housing.
We
have
we've
had
a
lot
of
discussion
and
we've
had
efforts
to
build
and
we
have
done
some.
We
will
never
build
ourselves
out
of
this
problem.
It's
just
too
large
and
it's
great
that
we
have
programs,
whether
it's
tax,
credit
or
program.
Other
programs.
A
Some
of
the
programs
that
HUD
provides,
but
we
have
often
talked
on
the
the
side
of
we
got
to
get
more
units,
that's
the
supply
side.
Over
on
the
other
side,
you
have
the
demand
side,
which
is
really
income.
It
comes
down
to
income.
Income
is
just
as
important
a
part
of
this
equation
as
the
supply
of
units
and
anyway
we
can
help
renters,
particularly
with
maybe
not
direct
but
indirect,
like
vouchers
and
so
on,
whether
it's
temporary
assistance
for
renters
who
are
about
to
be
evicted,
that's
that's
a
form
of
income.
A
There
are
a
number
of
programs
on
the
income
side,
but
it's
really
been
much.
It
hasn't
been
emphasized
like
the
supply
side,
I'll
just
but
just
go
to
a
couple
of
programs.
Now
that
are
under
discussion
and
as
I
said,
this
is
really
the
first
time
for
a
lot
of
years
that
we've
had
the
legislature
involved
and
last
year
they,
the
Housing
Commission.
A
The
Commission
was
set
up
by
the
legislature
Commission
on
housing,
affordability
and
they
tried
to
get
something
passed,
but
it
got
caught
up
in
ledges
in
the
tax
reform
and
they're
taking
another
run
at
it.
Now.
What
they're?
Looking
at?
Really
after
considering
RDAs
and
their
role
in
affordable
housing,
Tod
s
and
their
role
in
affordable
housing.
A
That
hasn't
really
been
decided,
but
I'm
sure
it'll
be
the
housing
authorities
who
administer
those
state
vouchers.
The
housing
authorities
now
do
the
federal
vouchers
and
it'll
become
through
the
umbrella
of
the
Olli
and
Walker
housing
loan
fund
and
ten
million
dollars
a
year
would
help
about
1500
families
ongoing
and
it's
really
a
lifeline
if
they
go
to
those
who
are
most
in
need,
and
that,
in
my
view,
is
under
30
percent
AMI.
A
So
that's
a
program,
that's
underway,
that
well
a
mark
up
for
the
draft
bill
was
underway
and
it
goes
to
leadership,
I
think
in
the
next
30
days,
so
other
our
offices
involved
them
a
number
of
study,
just
wanna.
Let
you
know
about
those
those
studies
and
one
is
on
best
practices
in
by
Utah
cities
and
counties
to
address
the
issue
of
affordable
housing
and
we're
looking
at
four
or
five.
Eighty
use
would
be
one
some
zoning
issues.
A
It
would
be
another
Tod
s
as
another.
Probably
rdas
is
another,
the
role
those
programs
have
played
in
providing
affordable
housing
and,
what's
the
best
way,
best
policies
within
those
programs.
Where
we
see
outcomes
positive
outcomes,
then
we
are
also
in
the
process
of
getting
funding
for,
and
it's
pretty
much
certain
on
the
Tod
s4.
This
is
through
UTA.
What
we're
looking
at
is
the
impact
of
Tod
s
on
housing
supply
and
we
would
do
that
across
the
whole
system.
A
So
anyway,
we
just
the
the
gardener
policy.
Well,
certainly,
we
want
to
make
data
available
and
our
discussions
on
a
monthly
basis
and
help
in
any
way
we
can,
with
the
number
of
issues
and
I'm
particularly
interested
in
in
housing,
and
be
glad
to
enter
in
that
discussion
and
talk,
questions
and
answer
great.
C
D
E
C
A
But
if
you
look
at
the
maps
of
ethnicity
and
race
and
we
did
map
all
accounted
for
while
sites
ranked
counties,
you
found
that
there
was
high
concentrations
of
minority
and
ethnic
groups
in
it
was
a
basically
a
corridor
that
ran
I
in
Salt
Lake
County
that
ran
from
the
north
boundary
of
Salt
Lake
City
West
of
I
15
along
that
corridor.
Then
it
turned
West
at
South,
Salt
Lake,
so.
A
Bit
east
in
South,
Salt
Lake,
then
it
went
West
to
West
Valley
and
there
were
a
park
and
a
little
bit
in
Taylorsville.
We
looked
at
that
segregation,
and
that
was
the
word
we
did
not
use
in
2000
and
2010
and
you
could
see
because
a
lot
of
it
has
to
do
with
housing
and
zoning
ordinances.
You
could
see
growing
concentrations
in
that
corridor
and
not
much
difference
in
the
rest
of
the
county,
and
that
is
an
issue
for
it's
a.
G
A
Districts
or
schools
that
are
transitory,
there's
a
lot
of
moving
in
and
out,
and
so
it
becomes
a
real
issue
for
the
school
district
and
the
schools,
and
it's
again
it's
heavily
loaded
in
the
low
opportunity
areas
where
not
only
the
kids
but
family
members
and
parents.
What
we
found
when
we
started
map.
You
know
it
was,
for
example,
the
UTA
line
would
have
they
and
they
just
they
weren't
as
sensitive.
A
In
my
view
at
in
those
days
too,
they
were
more
interested
in
getting
people
into
out
of
their
cars
into
tracks,
rather
than
putting
lines
where
there
were
transit-dependent
people,
and
you
can
see
that
if
we
run
a
line
out
to
Draper
and
that's
not
heavily
used,
whereas
you
go
west
of
about
2700
West
and
you
have
bus
rapid
transit
now,
but
it
would
have
been
great
if
there
to
run
that
that
line
West
and
over
to
Tran
Taylorsville,
but
yeah.
That's
zoning
and
pry
and
well.
A
H
H
I
know
you're
on
the
Commission
right,
yes
of
the
30
million.
Ten
million
is
ongoing
for
the
vouchers
the
state
bill,
that's
being
crafted
right
now,
the
rest
of
its
one-time
this
year.
That
would
go
Nolan
Walker
for
various
reasons.
So
one
of
the
the
pressures
that
you
mentioned.
We
can't
build
our
way
out
of
this
as
far
as
built
enough
units
to
just
have
the
market
correct
it,
because
the
market
doesn't
create
affordability.
H
If
the
market
prices
everything
above
that
window
even
incrementally,
because
HUD
will
only
raise
that
window
like
$25
a
year
or
something
it
means
something
very
small.
If
the
market
keeps
as
hot
as
it
is,
and
the
windows
all
go
up,
even
the
vouchers
don't
help
so
the
subsidy.
We
have
could
be
less
and
less
useful
if
we
don't
have
the
market
main
stabilized
at
some
point
where
there
enough
units
in
that
window,
that
you
can
use
the
subsidy
for.
H
A
A
There
must
have
been
a
zoning
ordinance
that
you
couldn't
build
over
25
more
than
24
units,
because
there
are
all
sorts
of
24
unit,
older
projects
that
are
I'm,
sure,
there's
some
voucher
holders
in
in
those
projects,
but
not
a
lot
I
think,
most
of
them
they're,
probably
on
a
West
of
VY
15,
unfortunately,
but
that
is
a
problem
cities.
In
fact,
Provo
is
engaged
in
this
right
now
in
a
survey
to
show
HUD
that,
in
fact,
the
fair
market
rent
is
higher
than
what
the
Reg
show,
but
that
is
a
really
laborious
process.
A
H
Chairman
I
appreciate
all
the
data
from
the
from
his
student.
Mr.,
what
I
appreciate
very
much
don't
think
I'd
bring
up
also,
as
he
mentioned
Seattle
and
a
pilot
program
they're
doing
about
how
do
you
move
folks
with
the
vouchers
to
other
parts
of
the
city
they
could
live
in
its
a
navigator?
Essentially,
you
hire
staff
who
can
help
them
navigate
and
know.
There's
units
here,
there's
rentals
there
else
in
city.
Here's
where
schools
are
here's
where
markets
are
here's
where
sort
of
get
used
to
a
new
area
of
the
city?
H
It's
not
that
we
purposely
exclude
anybody,
but
if
you're
not
used
to
another
area
of
the
city,
you're
not
going
to
move
there,
and
so
in
order
to
resort
diversify
the
sea,
we
may
have
to
look
at
that
as
a
program
for
the
city
itself
to
help
folks
navigate
different
neighborhoods
and
feel
more
comfortable.
There.
I
I
I
know
that
you
guys
are
collecting
data,
but
I
would
love
to
see
how
the
opportunity
index
is
changing
over
time
through
the
investments
that
Salt
Lake
City
is
making,
whether
it's
you
know
the
housing
programs
that
we're
funding
or
it's
a
Street
infrastructure
that
we're
doing
or
you
know
it's,
what
we're
doing
and
creating
that
opportunity
to
the
workforce
or
to
education
or
that
type
of
thing.
Yeah.
J
A
Part
of
that's
HUD
dependent
because
they
provide
us
with
the
data.
Some
of
this
we
have
developed
on
four
of
the
variables
but
I'm
we
will
be
doing
some
updates.
We
haven't
yeah,
we
have
done
a
set
of
maps
for
each
county
for
the
Utah
Housing
Corporation,
which
oversees
the
tax
credit
program
they
give
bonus.
Points
for
projects
are
located
in
moderate
to
high
opportunity
areas
so
that
those
maps
were
done
a
couple
of
years
ago.
A
I
K
K
A
Thank
you
and
we
would
love
to
get
more
involved
and
if
it's
on
the
one
area
of
the
opportunity
index,
that
would
be
terrific
yeah
and,
as
you
said,
it
affects
all
of
us
and
I
feel
the
effects.
I
have
a
granddaughter
and
two
great-grandchildren
living
with
me.
So
I
am
a
multi
generating
my
wife
or
a
multi-generational
household
and,
unlike
I,
think
the
other
cycles
I've
followed
going
back
to
the
70s.
The
difference
in
this
cycle
is
the
difficulty
of
young
households
to
even
qualify
for
the
rental
market.
A
B
Know
at
a
future
at
a
future
meeting,
but
one
of
the
things
that
you
mentioned
word
was
zoning
and
house.
Zoning
tends
to
get
in
the
way
of
housing,
affordability
and
housing
options,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
you
know
I
think
the
council
would
be
interested
in
hearing.
Is
you
know
what
some
of
what
different
ideas
are
for
the
zoning
changes
where
you
know
where
in
the
zoning
code
or
you
know,
are
we
getting
hung
up
right
now,
so
I,
don't
I?
B
A
We
have,
we
have
been
approached
and
they
I
didn't
talk
to
the
the
person
from
the
city.
Someone
talked
to
our
did:
Jenny
Robinson,
our
operating
officer
about
evaluating
housing
programs
that
the
city
has
undertaken
and
I'm
going
to
be
working
with
as
atlantean
best
use.
Some
of
that
are
not
best
used
best
practices
and
look
at
what
I
think
the
city
has
been
a
leader
and
we
want
to
look
at
what
the
city's
done
and
the
outcomes
have
been
and
look
forward
to
a
growing
relationship
on
with
the
city
on
housing.
Great
Thank.
B
You,
mr.
wood,
we
really
appreciate
it.
It
is
now
five
after
three.
We
have
made
a
couple
of
adjustments
on
our
agenda.
So
if
you,
if
you
have
an
agenda
in
front
of
you,
we
will
not
be
discussing
the
livable
streets
program
proposal
today.
Nor
will
we
be
discussing
the
budget.
Amendment
number
two.
Those
will
be
rescheduled
for
a
future
meeting,
so
we
are
going
to
jump
right
into
our
fact-finding
discussion
relating
to
homelessness.
B
B
So
one
of
the
reasons,
so
we
as
a
council
we've
been
talking
a
lot
about
homelessness
for
years,
and
we
thank
you
all
for
joining
us
today
and
there's
some
information
that
that
we
wanted
to
get
out
through
our
speakers,
which
is
why
we've
scheduled
this
today.
So
because
of
the
complexity
of
the
homeless
issue,
the
homeless
situation.
There
are
so
many
different
moving
pieces
related
to
the
shelter
related
to
the
new,
the
opening
of
the
news
of
the
new
resource
centers.
B
There
has
been
quite
a
bit
of
discussion
with
the
recent
cold
snap
a
couple
weeks
ago
about
space
in
the
emergency
emergency
winter
shelter
and
the
council
released
a
statement
sharing
similar
concerns.
With
what
we've
heard
from
the
community
about
the
timing
and
the
availability
of
the
the
winter
shelter,
the
state
owns
the
land
that
the
road
home
is
on.
Where
that
sheltered
wood
would
end
up
going,
and
so
the
state
decides
the
timeline
of
that
shelter.
B
But
we
also
know
that
there
are
concerns
about
what
happens
if
the
closure
date
comes
and
we
don't
have
workable
solutions
in
place,
so
to
get
a
better
understanding
of
how
we
can
all
work
together
to
keep
people
sheltered
this
winter,
we're
hosting
a
fact-finding
meeting
today
so
that
we
can
talk
about
some
of
these
things
on
our
agenda.
We
will
be
hearing
from
the
ACLU
we'll
be
hearing
from
the
Salt
Lake
Valley
coalition
to
end
homelessness.
B
Mayor
boo,
scoop
sees
administration,
we'll
also
hear
from
Salt
Lake
County
Mayor,
Wilson's
administration
and
jonathan
hardy
who's,
the
director
of
Housing
and
Community
Development
Division
with
the
Department
of
Workforce
Services.
So
those
are
some
of
the
groups
that
were
going
to
be
hearing
from
today.
B
We
do
want
to
emphasize
that
this
is
a
statewide
problem.
It
is
an
issue
that
that
is
not
just
related
to
Salt.
Lake
City,
however,
is
the
capital
city.
We
we
have
the
the
majority
of
the
issues
that
we're
facing.
So
we
appreciate
the
state's
involvement
there.
The
at
least
they're
acknowledging
that
there
is
an
issue
and
that
this
is
a
statewide
issue,
and
that
is
something
that
that
we've
been
trying
as
a
city
to
get
them
to
acknowledge
for
a
long
time.
We
ask
other
cities
throughout
the
state
to
join
us
in
this
effort.
B
This
is
not
something
that,
if,
if
someone
is
is
struggling
with
housing,
if
so,
if
someone
is
struggling
with
homelessness,
it
is,
it
is
unfair
to
that
individual
to
simply
ship
them
to
Salt
Lake
City
people
need
to
stay
in
their
communities
in
their
cities
and
their
neighborhoods.
That's
what
we
would
like
to
see
as
we
move
forward.
B
Homelessness
is
extremely
disruptive
to
those
experiencing
it,
and
you
know
adding
adding
another
point
of
transition
or
movement
to
those
individuals
is
not
fair,
and
it
is
something
that,
as
a
city,
we,
you
know
are
handling
a
lot
of
this,
but
we
do
need
help
from
from
the
rest
of
the
state
and
other
municipalities
and
counties
around
the
state.
So,
let's
jump
right
in
with
the
ACLU
Jason
Groff
is
here
from
the
ACLU,
and
the
topic
that
we've
asked
mister
Groth
to
talk
about
is
the
general
rights
of
people
experiencing
homelessness.
F
Okay,
so
I
have
a
PowerPoint,
we're
gonna
try
to
get
that
sorted,
but
thank
you
for
having
me
so
you
here
today
to
speak
to
these
issues
and
I
think
there
is
a
PowerPoint
hand
out
in
front
of
everybody
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
okay,
great
so
I'm
gonna
grab
my
laptop
and
follow
along
with
mine.
To
get
this
sorted.
K
F
So
if
you
want
to
grab
some
avocado
toast
later,
I'll
be
happy
to
do
yes,
so
kind
of
chipping
into
it.
While
we
get
the
tech
sorted
yeah
forum,
post
defender
out
of
Colorado
I'm,
an
attorney
at
the
ACLU
right
now
working
the
smart
justice
programming,
so
we
were
going
to
criminal
justice
reform
across
the
state,
so
I'm
really
gonna
be
looking
at.
That's
me
kind
of
my
lane
or
wheelhouse
as
we
have
this
discussion
today.
F
So
the
first
thing
I
just
want
to
address,
and
maybe
it
seems
really
obvious
to
a
lot
of
people,
but
I
think
this
isn't
brought
to
the
forefront
in
policy
discussions
is
that
when
we
look
at
rights
of
and
sheltered
people
or
people
experiencing,
homelessness
or
I've
been
secure
housing.
Those
rights
are
the
same
for
everybody
from
our
Utah
Constitution
and
US
Constitution.
F
F
We
don't
consider
the
impact
of
those
individuals
rights
and
what
that
can
look
like.
We
don't
consider
the
impact
of
criminal
laws
and
enforcement
on
that
community,
and
we
also
one
of
the
things
that
I've
noticed
and
in
our
work
generally
around
these
issues
is
we
don't
consult
the
main
stakeholders
when
it
comes
to
these
issues
and
that's
the
impacted
community,
that
is
the
people
experiencing
homelessness
and
I.
F
Think
that's
a
huge
mess
and
I
know
that
organizationally
with
organizations
something
we're
really
trying
to
do
better
by
and
I
think
it's
one
of
those
things
that
historically,
a
lot
of
organizations
haven't
done
that.
But
we
need
to
do
a
better
job
of
looking
at
how
impact
communities
think
about
these
issues
before
we
actually
enact
policy
decisions.
F
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
I
did
recently
I
get
so
flickering.
Okay
is
that
we
wrote
a
report
on
operation,
Rio
Grande,
the
sequel's
operation,
Rio,
Grande
endgame,
one
of
the
things
that
we
proposed
in
there
is
what's
called
the
homeless
Bill
of
Rights,
and
it's
a
way
to
surface
the
idea
that
individuals
experiencing
homelessness
have
the
same
rights
as
you
or
I
to
you
or
somebody
with
secure
housing,
and
so
this
is
an
example.
F
This
can
be
tailored
to
different
communities,
municipalities,
how
they
want
to
enact
a
bill
of
rights,
but
it's
a
good
guideposts
and
reminder
of
the
rights
that
people
experience
and
homelessness.
Do
you
have
some
of
these
things?
Also?
We
may
just
miss
whenever
we
do
these
policy
considerations.
So,
for
example,
some
of
this
includes
protection
from
harassment
or
intimidation
in
public
and
private
spaces.
F
Also
notification
of
service
changes
that
are
huge
that
really
impact
that
community
to
give
the
heads-up
when
things
are
going
to
change,
and
we
think
that
the
homeless
Bill
of
Rights
could
be
something
that
could
be
adopted,
organizationally
with
by
a
City
Council
themselves
or
municipality
or
a
county
I
know.
Some
state
legislators
have
floated
this
idea
by
as
well.
But
it's
a
great
way
to
have
a
guidepost
when
we
have
these
conversations.
The
kind
of
these
deep
dive
policy
considerations.
F
In
the
first
year
we
have
over
5,000
arrests
and
if
you
actually
look
at
the
numbers
behind
that
low-level
offenses
make
up
the
majority
of
those
arrests,
that's
misdemeanors
and
infractions
and
those
low-level
crimes
often
impact
people
without
housing
more
than
others,
and
that
is
because
just
some
of
those
daily
activities
that
you
do
in
the
privacy
of
your
own
home,
you
don't
really
have
a
choice
not
to
do
those
in
public
spaces
at
times
and
I'll
talk
about
some
of
those
specific
laws.
Whoo
Salt
Lake
City
itself
a
little
bit.
F
But
if
you
actually
look
at
the
arrest
numbers,
another
35
days
snapshot
from
the
first
year
of
Rio
Grande.
The
first
month
we
have
a
little
bit
over
1200
arrests.
64%
of
those
arrests
are
for
misdemeanors
and
infractions
and
of
those
low-level
offense
arrests.
We
have
26%
er,
B
and
C
infractions
jump
ahead
a
year
later
snapshot
from
the
same
timeframe.
The
number
of
rest
are
down
for
the
percentages.
About
the
same.
F
It's
actually
a
bit
more
that
you
have
almost
70
percent
of
arrests
are
for
those
misdemeanors
and
infractions,
and
then
the
percent
of
rest
for
low-level
misdemeanors
and
infractions
being
seized
is
34
percent.
So
when
we
think
about
that
impact
and
the
the
idea
of
operation,
Rio
Grande
is
going
to
be
a
filter
to
connect
people
to
resources.
F
There's
a
big
miss
here
when
you
look
at
our
city,
justice
court,
so
those
B
and
C
misdemeanors
those
go
to
the
city
justice
court.
That's
the
court
that
handles
those
plus
infractions.
Unfortunately,
the
funding
to
get
into
diversion
programs
to
get
into
housing
to
substance
abuse
treatment,
mental
health
treatment.
Wasn't
there
at
the
Justice
Court
level
is
at
the
county
level
for
your
Class,
eight
misdemeanors
and
your
felonies,
and
so
unfortunately,
that
filter
system
didn't
work
for
low-level
offenses.
F
It
actually
disrupted
access
to
services,
and
then
those
arrests
and
convictions
actually
create
hurdles
and
barriers
to
get
access
to
help.
So
an
example
of
this
is
that,
if
you're
waiting
to
get
housing
and
you're
on
a
list-
and
you
have
a
warrant
that
pops,
so
if
you
get
kicked
to
the
back
of
that
list
for
housing
and
it
doesn't,
it
doesn't
matter
what
the
warrant
is
for.
F
It
could
be
for
something
like
jaywalking
and
so
that's
actually
gonna
disrupt
you
from
getting
housing
services
and
so
just
kind
of
looking
at
the
collateral
consequences
from
mass
arrests.
We
see
there's
a
lot
of
issues
for
like
the
intent
and
the
infrastructure
that
was
available
and
the
actual
outcomes,
and
just
generally,
if
you
look
at
these
kind
of
mass
arrests
sweeps,
you
can
see
that
the
criminal
justice
system
isn't
the
best
driven
a
good
or
proper
filter
for
social
services
and
medical
services
and
again,
like
I,
said
they
create
these
roadblocks.
F
F
So
this
is
yeah.
This
is
great
time.
So
we,
when
we
look
at
other
cities,
so
the
ACLU
of
Minnesota
looked
at
Minneapolis
and
they
did
an
impact
review
of
the
top
ten
crimes
for
people
experiencing
homelessness,
and
this
is
what
they
came
up
with
and
you'll
see.
A
lot
of
this
stuff
are
similar
to
statutes
or
the
code
that
we
have
result
like
city,
so
consuming
alcohol
in
public,
open
bottles
warrants
trespassing
loitering
with
intent
to
have
a
narcotics,
offense
theft,
crimes,
disorderly
conduct,
begging,
panhandling
and
drug
paraphernalia
and
public
urination.
F
So
those
are
the
top
ten
crimes
for
people
experiencing
homelessness
or
top
ten
low-level
offense
arrests,
not
everything
is
exactly
the
same,
but
when
we
think
about
next
steps
we
have
the
data.
We
can
see
how
many
arrests
there
were
the
type
of
offenses
of
the
word,
but
if
we
really
break
it
down
and
can
actually
access
who's
being
impacted,
especially
there
are
people
our
population
experiencing
homelessness.
It
could
be
very
useful
to
see
how
we're
actually
using
law
enforcement
resources
and
to
what
end,
and
so
one
thing
that
they
also
did
in
Minneapolis.
F
We're
actually
looking
at
the
number
of
people
that
are
arrested
and
how
many
times
they
get
arrested.
And
so
we
could
look
at
from
the
simple
graphic
right
that
we
have
four
and
seventy
four
homeless
people
were
arrested
for
low-level
offense,
five
or
more
times
between
these
dates,
and
so
these
are
people
that
are
getting
picked
up.
Putting
to
the
criminal
justice
system,
cycling
out
and
cycling
back
in
over
and
over
and
over
again.
F
We
also
should
look
at
not
rewarding
just
by
the
numbers,
arrests
and
stops
for
law
enforcement
and
also
and
I
think
we're
actually
turning
to
do
this
now
I
was
expanding
a
diversion
programs
I'm
looking
at
alternatives
to
the
criminal
justice
system,
and
so
I
went
through
or
Salt
Lake
City
code.
This
isn't
exhaustive,
but
I've
put
together
a
list
of
offenses
that
may
disproportionately
impact
and
sheltered
people.
This
is
just
Salt
Lake
City.
This
is
in
the
state
or
county
ordinances,
and
so
I
underline
some
that
are
pretty
common.
F
You
might
see
some
camping,
rinses,
there's
some
on
the
next
page
that
include
things
that
I'm
a
runner
I
go
for,
runs
around
Liberty
Park
a
bunch
of
times,
but
you
can
actually
be
cited
for
spitting
in
a
public
space,
that's
enforceable,
and
so
in
that
running
community.
That's
something
that
I
don't
see
a
lot
of
interaction
with
law
enforcement
right
not
going
after
the
the
the
running
spitters
right,
but
people
experiencing
homelessness
may
be
subject
to
these
laws
in
a
way
that
a
lot
of
us,
otherwise
are
not.
F
So
it
could
be
a
really
useful
thing
to
you.
Just
have
a
committee.
Look
through
these
laws
see
what
the
purpose
of
them
are
for,
whether
or
not
they
should
exist
as
enforcement
mechanisms
and
maybe
start
clearing
out
some
of
these
issues.
That
may
may
not
be
an
issue
or
may
just
disproportionately
pact
some
populations
and
I.
Think
part
of
that,
too,
should
be
with
the
lens
of
our
changing
legal
landscape,
around
people
experiencing
homelessness,
and
so
there's
a
bunch
of
these
cases
kicking
around.
F
Most
recently
out
of
the
ninth
in
Boise
Idaho
became
a
ruling
that
essentially
says
that
laws
criminalizing
people
that
are
sleeping
outside
and
there's
no
shelter
space
available
violates
your
Eighth
Amendment
rights
against
cruel
and
unusual
punishment
and
the
thought
process.
The
the
rationale
behind
that
is
that
that
choice
to
be
outside
in
public
space
is
illusory.
F
If
you
have
no
place
to
go,
you
shouldn't
be
criminalized
for
something
you
have
no
control
over
and
also
we
can
look
at
other
rulings
and
other
litigation
that
looks
at
equal
protection
issues
where
people
may
be
enforced
at
a
high
level.
Certain
group
of
people
and
force
at
a
high
level
for
no
camping
ordinances
compared
to
have
the
group
so,
for
example,
the
spiting
ordinance
right
and
so
part
of
that
is
just
seen
looking
at
the
data
seeing
how
things
are
being
enforced.
F
If
it's
targeted
enforcement
for
a
specific
population,
you
can
see,
there's
an
equal
protection
issue
and
thank
god.
This
is
maybe
something
we
should
be
addressing
through
legislation
or
modifying
some
of
our
city
codes
and
I.
Guess
it's
just
kind
of
wrap
this
up
and
I
understand.
These
are
our
big-picture
issues
and
we
could
dive
into
this
for
quite
some
time.
F
Do
you
feel
differently?
That's
from
the
reality
for
a
lot
of
these
people
experiencing
homelessness
when
we
think
about
law
enforcement
as
a
solution
to
these
issues,
and
also
imagine
that
policymakers
decide
the
criminal
justice
is.
Justice
system
is
going
to
help
you
access
doctors
and
health
care
right
and
that's
kind
of
how
we
think
about
the
criminal
justice
system
when
it
comes
to
people
experiencing
homelessness,
and
so
this
is
a
way
to
help
you,
but
if
that
is
the
way
to
get
you
help.
This
feels
like
a
huge
disconnect
in
a
lot
of
that.
F
Just
has
to
do
with
dignity
of
being
a
person
in
the
community
and
respecting
that.
So
with
that
I'll
kind
of
wrap,
it
up
they're,
definitely
looking
forward
to
the
question
section,
but
if
you
have
more
questions
or
if
you
want
to
download
the
report,
you
can
check
out
this
information
here
on
our
websites.
Great.
K
Thank
you
for
this,
and
you
know
everybody
here
knows
my
experience,
that
I
am
also
a
former
public
defender
and
I
I.
Think
oftentimes
public
defenders
get
to
see
the
interaction
of
all
of
the
different
areas,
that's
sort
of
like
the
four
corners
in
that
when
you
see
a
client
come
in,
you
see
how
all
of
the
different
agencies
in
our
criminal
justice
system
and
somebody
experiencing
homelessness,
have
to
navigate
through
all
of
this,
but
I
wanted
to
bring
up
to
my
board
members
or
council
members.
K
Is
this
idea
in
one
of
your
slides
Jason,
that
of
how
many
times
somebody
gets
arrested
like
the
recidivism
part
of
this
right,
our
public
defender
office
affectionately
calls
these
crimes
homeless
crimes
because
it
really
is
what
people
most
people
experiencing
homelessness.
Are
the
people
impacted
by
the
crimes
listed
in
Jason
slide,
but
we
in
Salt,
Lake,
City,
justice,
court
and
I
think
this
is
a
charge
to
us
as
council
members
to
look
into
this
analysis.
K
We
in
Salt
Lake
City
justice
court,
do
jail
arraignments,
so
somebody
gets
picked
up
for
trespassing
at
an
abandoned
house
because
that's
where
they
can
find
shelter
and
they
go
to
into
the
jail
and
the
prosecutor
says
well,
we'll
give
them
two
days
and
let
them
go,
but
they
have
to
plead
guilty
to
it
right.
So
you
plead
guilty,
you
do
your
two
days,
you
get
out
of
jail
and
you
still
don't
have
anywhere
to
go.
K
But
now
you
have
a
Class
C
misdemeanor
on
your
record,
so
you
go
back
to
another
place,
so
you
can
find
shelter
and
you
get
picked
up
again
for
trespass,
but
you
know
that
you're
only
gonna
spend
two
days
in
jail.
Maybe
that's!
Okay
and
then
you
come
back
out.
It's
a
complete
revolving
door.
I
had
a
client,
it
was
75
arrests
and
it
was
all
just
homeless
crimes
right,
and
that
is
something
I
think
that
to
Jason's
point
into
what
we
have
here
that
we
need
to
be
looking
at.
K
We
have
the
ability,
I
think
to
work
with
administration.
To
say
how
is
our
city
Justice
Court
working,
and
what
can
we
do
to
improve
it?
We
have
a
new
presiding
judge,
judge
Landau
who's
incredibly
excited
about
looking
at
it
being
a
more
therapeutic
court
where
we're
funding
and
looking
and
expanding
the
programs
and
the
access
to
the
programs,
also
as
a
public
defender
we
sort
of
had.
Unfortunately,
this
idea-
and
it
runs
within
our
criminal
justice
system-
is
that
you
know
somebody
who's
experiencing
mental
health
issues.
K
It's
going
to
take
them
longer,
sitting
in
jail
to
get
them
resources
they'll
just
time
out
of
a
Class
B
misdemeanor.
You
can
only
be
in
jail
for
180
days
and
a
Class
B
misdemeanor.
It
will
take
us
that
long
to
get
resources
for
somebody
experiencing
mental
health
issues
so
yeah,
let's
just
plead
them
out,
get
them
out
so
they're
not
sitting
in
jail
and
wait
till
they
become
a
felon
and
then
they
have
to
be
in
there,
so
basically
right
because
they're
poor
and
they
can't
afford
bail
and
there's
all
these
other
system.
K
So
I
appreciate
this
perspective,
a
lot
as
I've
seen
it
a
lot,
and-
and
so
thank
you
for
bringing
this
to
our
attention,
I
think
there's
really
something
that
we
as
a
council
can
do
to
look
into
this
particular
area.
So
there
wasn't
a
question.
Sorry,
just
a
statement.
I
get
really
passionate
about
this.
Clearly
yeah
I
know
you
did.
C
Is
thank
you.
This
is
great
and
that's
a
great
idea,
Amy
and
so
I
think
a
lot
of
us
are
I.
Think
most
everybody
in
this
town
that
is
doing
work
with
homeless,
understand
how
difficult
it
is
and
I
think
we're
on
the
same
page
or
how
trying
to
help
the
most
vulnerable
in
our
community
and
I.
Think
that
is
a
great
idea.
With
this
new
perspective
that
we
can
work
on
our
justice
system.
C
I
had
one
right
outside
homeless
man
last
night.
Actually
right!
That's
on
my
shop
and
I
asked
him.
Would
you
like
me
to
to
help
you
and
take
you
to
the
shelter
and
he
said
to
the
rocker
I'm
like
yes,
and
he
said
absolutely
not
that's
what
I
got
addicted
to
drugs
and
so
I
do
not
want
to
go
there.
I'm
like
oh,
but
we
have
other
resources.
We
have
news
centers
that
we
can
take
you
to
that.
You
will
feel
safer
and
we
can-
and
he
said,
no,
that's,
okay,
so
those
were
that's.
C
F
There's
a
recent
thing:
cuz
a
Tribune
article
that
talked
about
a
person
that
would
did
not
believe
they
could
go
to
a
homeless,
Resource
Center
because
they
had
an
outstanding
warrant
or,
if
there's
a
pending
case,
and
it
seems
to
be
some
miscommunication.
It's
in
public
education
efforts.
I
could
really
help
understand
like
exactly
what
the
services
are,
that
are
being
provided
and
what
are
the
various
access?
F
Those
services
because,
for
my
understanding,
is
that
there's
been
a
really
concerted
effort
to
reduce
the
barriers
for
access
to
services,
but
again
anecdotally,
with
a
lot
of
the
impacted
population.
It
doesn't
seem
like
there's
a
consensus
about
exactly
what
that
means
within
that
community
itself.
F
So
I
think
the
public
education
piece
is
important
and
also
to
I
think
that
we're
seeing
some
really
good
progress,
especially
with
law
enforcement,
so
like
City
Police
Department,
actually
gave
us
some
feedback
on
operation,
Rio
Grande
report,
endgame
they're,
doing
social
worker
program
and
where
they
go
out
with
social
workers,
to
address
some
of
these
underlying
issues
and
seeing
if
they
can
help
people
that
may
be
resource
resistant
or
maybe
take
a
different
approach
to
these
issues.
And
so
within
that
area
it
seems
like,
if
there's
a
public
education
component
within
that
population.
C
C
But
it's
it's
hard
for
me
to
not
have
a
solution
for
them
like
I,
want
to
help
I
think
we're
all
in
this
community
wanna
help,
and
we
don't
want
them
to
be
outside
in
the
cold,
but
they
also
don't
want
our
help
and
that's
where
I
have
a
conflict
like
a
true
conflict
in
my
mind
how
how
how
what
else
could
be
doing
to
help
to
educate
to
you
know
to
bring
them
into
shelter
and
and
then
in
the
pathway
of
housing.
That
is
not
against
the
law.
Yeah.
F
That's
that's
a
great
difficult
question
and
I
guess
from
our
perspective,
but
they
still
use.
We've
got
to
be
mindful
about
how
we
actually
push
that
issue
and
I
think
law
enforcement
first
approach
is
really
difficult,
even
though
that
sometimes
it
seems
like
law
enforcement.
It's
kind
of
a
Swiss
Army
knife
that
supposed
to
solve
a
lot
of
these
issues
and
again
that's
kind
of
a
social
service.
K
If
you
could
either
direct
me
to
further
information,
or
maybe
email
me
so
that
I
can
read
about
those
I
think
that
would
be
interesting
to
see
how
their
city
took
those
steps
to
create
to
fund
and
create
some
diversion
programs
and
and
sort
of
the
steps
they
took
to
get
to
there
because
I
know
it's
not
just
overnight.
You
create
a
divergent
program
right,
but
but
how
they
kind
of
went
through
that.
Maybe
we
can
learn
something
from
from
a
little
bit
more
information
with
that
I'd.
K
H
Love
what
councilman
Fowler's
talked
about
and
I
understand:
councilmember
Valda,
Morris's,
conundrum,
I,
guess
one
of
the
things
that
may
help
is
talking
from
just
a
legal
perspective,
thinking
through
our
laws
in
the
way
they
interact
with
the
homeless
versus
the
way
they're
and
interact
with
maybe
a
lot
of
other
folks
they
may
be
set
up
with
certain
assumptions
about
your
long-term
thinking
would
prohibit
you
from
taking
an
action.
That's
contrary
to
the
law,
because
you'll
want
that
long-term
consequence.
H
But
when
your
perspective
is
not
long-term,
when
your
perspective
is
short-term
survival,
that
law
has
a
different
effect
on
you.
It
doesn't
interact
the
same
way
and
that's
I
think
perhaps
where
we're
looking
at.
How
do
we
look
at
our
penal
code
and
say
the
way
that
we
think
we
assume
it
works
on?
Everybody
isn't
true:
it's
not
working
that
way
on
folks
who
are
only
worried
about
their
and
idiot
survival
needs
and
thinking
through
that
a
little
bit
I
think
but
you're
right.
H
K
Sorry,
one
more
thing
to
that
point:
I
think
we
have
to
remember
there's
a
lot
of
different
communities
that
experience
homelessness
and
a
lot
of
different,
so
everybody
has
a
different
perspective,
every
person
and
and
what
I
think
Jason's
pointing
out
what
I've
seen
is
that
just
one
arrest
I
mean?
Can
you
for
trying
to
find
shelter
that
very
first
time
you
get
arrested
and
going
to
jail?
K
Can
change
the
trajectory
of
your
life
forever
and
if
we
are,
all
we're
doing
is
saying,
is
creating
a
revolving
door
without
solutions
for
that
one
person
that
was
finding
one
night
of
shelter,
then
at
that
pattern
is
going
to
continue
and
the
legal.
The
criminal
justice
system
is
a
problem
to
that,
and
it
is
helping
continue
that
pattern
of
instead
of
trying
to
help
break
that
pattern,
right,
I,
don't
and
so
I
think
you
have
to
ever.
K
We
have
to
realize
there's
lots
of
different
communities
and,
and
they
are
affected
in
lots
of
different
ways.
The
criminal
justice
system,
fortunately,
for
me,
doesn't
affect
me
in
the
same
way
as
it
may
affect
other
people
and
whether
that's
because
I
know
it
well
whether
that's
because
I
argue
a
lot
and
I
don't
know
right,
but
it
is
it's
there
and
I
think
we
have,
and
what
Jason
has
brought
to
our
attention
is
that
we
have
an
ability
at
least
one
one,
little
cog
of
this
very
complex,
very
integrated
issue.
K
We
can
look
at
and
and
take
this
deeper
dive
into
the
analysis.
Look
at
operation,
Rio
Grande.
How
much
did
that
actually
change?
Recidivism
I
was
a
part
of
one
of
the
being
the
public
defenders
when
we
had
mass
arrests
just
trying
to
make
sure
constitutional
rights
weren't
completely
broken,
and
how
much
did
that
affect
recidivism
for
to
the
people
in
the
in
the
A's
and
the
Seas
and
the
infractions?
They
were
arrested
several
more
times
afterwards.
It
right
I,
don't
know
that
it
affected
any
sort
of
recidivism.
We
saw
that
people
would
get
saved.
K
They
went
into
treatment
programs
and
walk
away
from
it,
because
that
wasn't
the
answer
to
doing
that.
In
my
personal
opinion
it,
but
we
have
the
ability
now
to
look
at
some
other
cities,
learn
from
other
cities
and
say
how
can
we,
as
a
council
and
as
a
city
start
to
have
our
local
justice
reform
so
that
we're
actually
creating
pathways
to
help
people
and
not
just
these
road
blocks?
I
think.
F
To
that
onto
that
that
when
we
look
at
other
cities
too,
we've
got
to
be
very
mindful
that
a
lot
of
these
issues
are
really
dynamic,
because
a
lot
of
the
infrastructure
in
each
city
is
vastly
different,
and
so
it's
not
a
one-size-fits-all
solution.
So
what
may
work
here,
and
so
like
city
may
not
work
a
few
miles
away
in
another
city,
so
just
something
to
keep
in
mind
that
there's
a
there's
a
lot
of
infrastructure.
F
B
B
L
Said
bring
that
level
of
things,
so
the
first
thing
I
want
to
say
is
I
would
recommend
Councilwoman
Baltimore
Ellis.
If
you
want
to
come
to
our
community
engagement
or
crisis
response
core
function
groups,
you
may
get
some
answers
and
Councilwoman
Fowler.
If
you
want
to
come
to
our
legal
rights
group
you'll
see
a
legal
defender's
judge,
Baxter
law
enforcement,
all
working
together
on
exactly
those
issues,
so.
E
This
is
our
little
sketch
of
what
our
coalition
looks
like
with
the
steering
committee
in
the
middle
and
the
core
function
groups
around
the
outside.
Really
what
this
does
is
this
allows
anyone
in
the
community
who
has
an
interest
in
this
issue
to
find
the
right
place
to
be
the
most
effective
in
becoming
involved
and
really
setting
the
tone
for
making
positive
change.
I
think
so.
Take
a
look
at
that.
We'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about.
L
To
do
that,
we
have
created
those
core
function
groups.
Each
of
those
groups
is
focused
on
their
core
function
and
right
now
most
of
those
groups
are
engaged
in
deep
data
dives
trying
to
figure
out
what
data
we
have,
what
data
we
need
so
that
we
can
better
figure
out
what
are
the
gaps
and
services.
We
all
hear
the
anecdotes
there's
a
lot
of
truth
in
anecdotes,
there's
also
a
lot
of
misinformation
in
anecdotes,
and
so
we're
trying
to
sort
of
clear
away
that
chaff
and
figure
out
what
is
actually
happening
on
the
ground.
L
In
the
meantime,
as
we
are
transitioning
to
these
resource
centers,
we
are
seeing
the
wrinkles
coming
up
that
we
knew
we're
going
to
happen
in
transition.
We
need
to
get
through
this
transition
period
and
we
need
to
do
that.
We
are
still
very
much.
Everyone
involved
is
very
much
committed
to
the
idea
that
no
one
goes
without
shelter,
so
there
are
options
on
the
table
that
are
being
worked
through
to
figure
out
how
we
make
sure
that
no
one
is
left
on
the
streets.
L
And
as
as
we're
going
through
this
transition
process,
there
are
a
lot
of
folks
coming
to
the
table
to
really
make
sure
we
are
not
leaving
those
who
are
most
vulnerable
suffering
through
our
transition.
So
that
is
happening.
What
you've
got
before
you,
as
well
as
the
snapshot
report.
That
gives
you
just
a
sense
of
what
each
of
those
core
function
groups
are
focused
on
right
now,
where
their
core
competencies
are
and
what
data
they're.
L
Looking
at
and
looking
for,
Rob
and
I
each
are
co-chairs
of
one
of
those
core
function
groups
as
our
other
folks
in
this
room,
and
then
a
number
of
folks
in
this
room
are
also
part
of
the
coalition
like
Andrew
and
many
of
the
faces.
You're.
Seeing
here
are
part
of
the
are
of
the
work
to
make
sure
we
are
better
addressing
the
situation
across
the
county.
So
I
will
just
give
you
one
because
of
what
you
were
talking
about
with
the
ACLU
who
is
part
of
our
legal
rights
group
as
well.
L
Our
group,
one
of
the
things
we
are
focused
on,
is
making
sure
that
those
coming
out
of
jail
do
have
better
access
to
services
so
that
they
aren't
just
going
from
jail
to
homelessness,
and
so
we
are
trying
to
work
with
the
lDA's
with
the
judges
who
will
admit
right
now.
What
we
have
is
a
system
where
someone
coming
out
of
jail
has
to
self
identify
themselves
as
homeless,
and
that's
not
the
best
way
to
provide
services.
L
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
if
they're
legal
defender
can
get
that
information
and
get
them
that
help
that
that's
possible
at
the
jail
before
they
come
out,
so
that
we
can
resolve
homelessness
in
that
gap,
and
that's
really
what
the
processes
are.
Looking
like
for
many
of
our
core
function,
groups.
E
One
of
the
things
that
the
group
looks
at
as
well
as
the
coalition
wants
to
be
very
cognizant
of,
and
and
it's
what
we
talked
about
just
just
before
the
criminalization
of
homelessness.
It's
not
a
best
practice
around
the
country.
It
doesn't
result
in
long
term,
stability
of
individuals
who
are
experiencing
homelessness,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
want
to
do
is
propose
alternatives
to
that.
E
So
when
someone
and
I
love
this
light
about,
you
know
what,
if
we
decided
that
law
enforcement
would
be
the
ones
to
get
you
to
the
doctor
or
to
some
other
services,
we
wouldn't
really
promote
that
and
I
think
it's
and
it's
exactly
the
same
thing.
We
want
to
promote
other
alternatives,
get
people
into
resources
quicker,
you
know
and
then,
and
then
the
whole
thing
about
mental
illness
with
homelessness.
L
H
Have
a
question
mr.
chair:
I
am
I
just
want
to
wholly
support
the
coalition.
It
is
new
as
of
April
this
year.
It
has
a
lot
of
elements
from
previous
organizations.
Continuum
of
care,
the
collective
impact
from
the
county.
A
lot
of
folks
have
doing
a
lot
of
work
for
a
long
time,
including
photo
affordable
housing
groups.
A
lot
of
other
small
groups
have
been
doing
this
for
a
long
time
as
well.
Absolutely
so
it's
taking
a
lot
of
the
existing
folks
who
were
working
on
this
and
just
brought
them
under
one
umbrella.
H
So
if
anybody
is
interested
here
elsewhere,
I
would
recommend
strongly
what
Jean
said
about
participating
all
this
is
online.
The
meetings
are
all
noticed
in
advance
the
meetings
for
all
these
core
groups
around
different
days,
so
you
can
go
in
as
many
as
you'd
like,
but
really
make
this
a
focal
point
to
best
practices,
I
whole
plan.
H
B
C
C
C
B
You
thank
you
for
your
work.
The
next
we'll
hear
from
mayor
but
scoops,
Keys
administration,
deputy
chief
of
staff,
David
Litvak
and
then
in
the
audience
available.
If
we
have
questions
would
be
Cathy
brave
from
Volunteers
of
America
Amanda
Christensen
and
Suat
Ivalo
from
volunteers,
Catherine,
five
from
Salt
Lake,
County,
director
of
programs,
chief
Brown,
who
I
don't
see
and
Jessica's
with
Jessica
waters.
So,
okay,
he's
in
the
chamber.
M
M
Michelle
is
part
of
what
the
council
funded
this
last
year
in
the
budget,
and
the
mayor's
recommendations
is
a
little
bit
of
restructuring
that
we're
doing
internally
with
our
homeless,
outreach
and
homeless
programs
and
Michelle
is
our
homeless
programs
manager.
So
she
manages
a
team
of
individuals
specifically
focused
on
working
with
individuals
experiencing
homelessness
so
and
Michelle
is
going
to
help
me
with
the
campaign
update.
So
I've
been
asked
to
do
a
couple
two
different
things.
One
provides
you
an
update
on
the.
M
Transition
plan,
particularly
the
housing
campaign
that
was
announced
two
weeks
ago
and
then
also
talked
in
a
little
bit
more
detail
about
Salt,
Lake,
City's
approach
to
working
with
individuals
experiencing
homeless
that
are
living
on
the
streets
and
how
we
seek
to
address
their
needs,
as
well
as
the
broader
community's
needs
as
well.
So
I
want
to
start
with
the
housing
campaign
and
just
give
a
brief
overview
of
what
that
campaign
is
and
who
we
are
focused
on
and
how
it
relates
to
the
transition
and
then
turn
a
few
minutes
to
Michelle.
M
To
give
you
an
update
on
the
actual
numbers,
so
our
housing
campaign
and
I
say
our
because
it
really
is
a
community
lead.
We
have,
we
are
taking
a
lead
in
terms
of
facilitating
and
coordinating
the
effort.
We
are
focused
on
housing,
67
individuals
over
the
next
30
days
and
we're
about
again
two
weeks
in
the
short
term.
Focus
with
the
housing
campaign
is
to
address
some
of
the
capacity
issues
at
the
current
resource,
centers
and
the
downtown
shelter.
So
our
immediate
focus
are
individuals
that
are
touching
shelter
right.
M
That
we
know
are
within
our
shelter
system.
Right
now,
and
that
is
broken
up
into
three
different
focus-
focus
groups
1,
and
this
kind
of
was
tackled
a
little
bit
earlier
and
councilmember
Johnston's
conversation
about
vouchers
is,
we
know
there
are
27
individuals
currently
in
shelter
that
are
chronically
homeless,
use
a
lot
of
shelter
services
and
they
have
currently
rental
assistance
through
vouchers
and
case
management,
and
the
only
thing
they
are
missing
is
a
unit.
M
M
We
have
the
27,
then
we
have
the
20,
and
then
we
have
another
20
that
we
are
talking
about
our
low
barrier,
individuals
that
typically
resolve-
maybe
in
45
days
60
days-
and
we
know
that
we
can
provide
some
emergency
housing
assistance
when
they
first
touch
shelter
that
they
will
self
resolve
quicker.
So
there's
some
immediate
short-term
impact
in
terms
of
freeing
up
beds
may
not
have
that
long-term,
because
these
are
individuals
that
don't
spend
a
lot
of
time
in
the
system.
M
We
don't
want
them
to
right,
but
it
does
have
some
of
that
most
short-term
impact.
Those
are
the
three
target
populations
so
to
speak
in
terms
of
individuals
experiencing
homelessness.
This
effort
is
being
funded
through
State
dollars,
a
little
over
$400,000
that
is
being
utilized
for
things
like
rental
assistance,
so
the
top-20
utilizers
I
mentioned
they
do
not
have
vouchers.
They
do
not
have
case
managers,
so
state
funding
will
be
used
for
both
of
those
as
well
as
landlord
incentives.
M
So,
as
you
saw
two
weeks
ago,
a
big
push
to
bring
more
landlords
more
units
into
this
conversation
and
provide
services
and
rental
opportunities
to
this
population
and
with
that
I
know
we're
really
short
for
time.
I'm
gonna,
let
Michelle
provide
you
an
update
in
terms
of
where
we
are
on
all
that.
Thank.
N
You
David
and
thank
you
council
members
for
hosting
us
today.
We
just
to
speak
a
little
bit
more
about
the
role
of
the
city
in
this
process,
so
the
city
can
means
daily
calls
and
weekly
in-person
meetings
with
a
placement
coordination
group
that
placement
coordination
group
includes
case
management
leads
housing,
locators
from
each
of
the
homeless,
resource
centers
and
the
downtown
shelter.
It
also
includes
city
and
county
housing
authorities,
as
well
as
some
folks
from
the
VA
and
VOA,
as
well
as
the
Utah
Highway
Patrol.
N
The
city
Housing
Authority
is
the
main
point
of
contact
for
new
landlords
who
are
wanting
to
partner
with
us
on
this
effort.
The
city
Housing
Authority
has
been
able
to
identify
20
new
landlords
who
have
come
in
as
a
result
of
this
campaign
and
working
with
them.
We've
identified
91
units
in
the
last
few
weeks.
N
The
number
of
people,
the
number
of
high
utilizers
who
are
currently
in
process
who
have
been
referred
into
the
program
into
the
high
utilizer
program,
is
twenty
nine.
Six
of
those
are
currently
residing
at
the
King
Center,
twelve
at
the
Miller,
and
one
at
the
men's,
Resource
Center,
with
the
vouchers
with
the
clients
who
have
vouchers
currently
in
hand.
One
of
those
has
been
housed
by
the
VA
and
two
have
been
housed
by
the
road
home
already.
N
Seventeen
are
coming
in
from
the
road
home.
Four
are
coming
in
from
the
Miller
center
and
four
are
coming
in
from
the
King
Center
as
well.
We
have
got
four
people
who
are
in
the
pipeline
for
the
quick
emergency
assistance
that
David
has
talked
about,
and
so
three
people
total
have
been
housed
already
with
about
36
who
are
currently
in
the
pipeline
and
should
be
housed
fairly
quickly.
M
I
M
M
However,
one
of
the
points
of
discussion
on
the
current
program
is
that,
in
order
for
a
landlord
to
access
that
funding,
it
requires
actual
legal
action
taken
against
the
tenant
eviction.
Things
like
that.
We
are
with
the
state's
support,
we're
piloting
in
this
housing
campaign,
a
mitigation
effort
with
for
landlords
that
won't
have
that
strict
of
requirements.
So
we
will
be
able
to
offer
new
landlords
as
a
part
of
this
housing
push
what
the
Housing
Authority
referred
to
as
a
security
blanket.
M
But
if
there
is
damage
that
up
to
$2,000
is
available
to
cover
the
damage
that
may
be
caused
now
there
will
be
accountability
for
it.
There
will
be
assuring
that
them
that
damage
was
actually
caused
by
a
tenant
and
not
cover
it
up
and
then
discovered
later
things
like
that,
so
we
all
have
a
little
bit
more
flexibility
with
within
the
housing
campaign
to
offer
that
as
an
incentive
for
new
landlords
and.
I
Then
I
guess
my
follow
a
question
for
you
is
I,
don't
know
if
there's
anyone
who
was
this
familiar
in
Salt
Lake
City,
with
what's
going
on
with
the
state
in
the
county
than
you,
and
in
looking
at
that.
Do
you
know
of
any
other
programs
that
the
salt
that
Salt
Lake
City
or
the
county
or
their
state,
that's
being
redundant
that
could
be
streamlined
to
help?
You
know
facilitate
this
in
a
faster
way.
Well,.
M
M
Think
with
that
effort
and
with
bringing
the
pieces
together
that
council
member
Johnson,
we
no
longer
have
a
separate
group
doing
continuum
of
care
and
a
separate
group
doing
collective
impact
that
we
have
the
making
of
a
coalition
that's
going
to
identify
where
there
is
duplication.
How
that
can
be
resolved,
or
maybe
where
sometimes
in
a
system
duplicate
duplication
can
be
good.
M
M
C
For
this
great
effort,
I
mean
I
mean
the
numbers
of
the
units
that
we've
been
able
to
find
I
mean
it's
awesome,
and
but
I
should
still
go
back
to
the
practicality
of
certain
things
and
what
happens
if
right,
if
our
plan
fit
it
slightly
sure
you
know
so,
the
question
is
individuals
who
are
sleeping
outside
in
below
freezing
weather
are
at
significant
life
safety
risk
if
they
don't
have
adequate
equipment.
What
is
being
done
or
will
be
done
in
relation
to
their
safety
in
this
cold
winter
months,
coming
up
so.
M
It's
a
great
question
and
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
address
it,
so
the
housing
campaign
is
one
part
of
a
broader
effort
and
I
want
to
start
by
going
back
to
the
commitment
that
all
the
elected
mayor,
the
scoopski
mayor,
Wilson,
lieutenant
governor
Speaker,
Wilson
and
and
president
of
the
Senate
Adams,
made
three
weeks
ago
that
our
number
one
goal
that
we're
striving
to
that
we
will
achieve
is
that
no
one
will
go
without
a
warm
place
to
be
during
the
winter
months
right.
So
that
is
something
that
we
are
all
committed
to.
M
That
may
not
necessarily
be
one
of
the
resource
center
beds.
It
may
be
an
overflow
and
different
strategy,
so
that
is
the
number
one
goal
that
we
are
all
committed
to,
that
the
housing
campaign
is
is
designed
to
address
as
well
there
other
initiatives.
So
a
couple
of
the
other
things
that
are
a
part
of
the
overall
plan
to
address
needs
for
individuals
experiencing
homelessness
during
the
winter
months.
Are
we
have
the
overflow
shelter
that's
currently
operating
so
st.
Vinnie's?
M
We
utilize
and
will
utilize
more
hotel
and
motel
vouchers,
and
right
now
we
are
actually
transitioning
in
the
process
of
transitioning
st.
Vinnie's,
which
has
been
utilized
as
a
overflow
for
women.
We
are
transitioning
that
to
be
an
overflow
for
men,
which
it
has
been
traditionally
and
utilizing
the
motel
and
Hotel
vouchers
for
women.
Now
all
of
that
is
particularly
with
motel.
Hotel
vouchers
is
really
identifying
that
the
right
person
is
in
the
right
place,
so
Motel
hotel
vouchers
are
best
utilized
for
someone.
M
That's
ready
to
go
into
housing
and
we're
just
you'll
make
that
next
step
be
the
housing,
whereas
someone
who's
more
vulnerable,
utilizing
the
Resource
Center
bed
utilizing
the
overflow
shelter
another
idea.
Another
part
of
the
plan
that
is
still
being
worked
through
and
is
being
considered
but
has
not
been
finalized,
is
looking
at
the
Wiegand
center
as
a
24
hour
warming
center,
but
an
intake
and
assessment
center
for
24
hours.
M
So
right
now
the
coordinated
entry
process
for
individuals
accessing
the
homeless
services
system,
Utah,
Community
Action,
is
coordinating
facility
in
that
process,
and
right
now
we
use
the
Wiggins
Center
during
their
operating
hours
to
connect
individuals
to
those
right
services.
So
we
know
every
night
at
about
8:30
at
night
that
we
were
going
to
identify
empty
beds
within
the
resource,
centers
and
so
individuals,
when
those
beds
are
identified.
Individuals
are
transported
from
the
Wiggins
center
or
from
st.
Vinnie's
to
the
vacant
beds,
and
so
we
want
to
be
able
to
utilize
that
process
24
hours.
C
In
that
awesome,
once
again,
I
go
back
for
some
reason:
I
keep
thinking
about
it's
like
we
go
back
to
those
individuals
will
be
able
to
utilize
all
these
resources
if
they
want
to
its
voluntarily
right.
But
then
you
know
in
district
4,
we
see
a
lot
of
encampments.
My
constituency
is
very
worried
about
what
happens
to
those
if
we
close
Road
home,
if
we
don't
have
enough
room
or
if
they
decide
not
to
use
the
services
so.
B
H
Just
so
I
see
this
closest
earlier
I
do
work
for
Volunteers
of
America,
who
David
Litvak
mentioned
as
a
contractor
for
the
city
for
some
services,
but
I've
recused
myself
and
any
votes
on
those
contracts
prior
to
this
and
well
in
the
future
as
well.
The
question
councilman
Rogers
had
was
about
the
barrier
relief
funds.
H
Essentially
the
state
one
is
specific
to
folks
who
actually
have
an
Jude
occation
of
some
sort
of
eviction
or
a
risk
of
that,
but
it's
also
about
a
certain
type
of
voucher,
a
section
8
voucher,
yes,
think
about
the
city's
funds
as
sort
of
the
ability
to
where
I
wrap
around
that
and
do
a
lot
more
folks
in
different
circumstances
before
and
after
that,
so
they
can
work
in
tandem
together
instead
of
duplicating
at
all.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
clarifying
the
half
issue.
K
Think
I'm
ready
so
I
appreciate
that
Anna
has
brought
this
up
a
couple
of
times
of
people
who,
for
whatever
reasons,
seem
resource
resistant
and
oftentimes.
It
I
think
people
a
friend
of
mine
and
I
were
talking
about
this
the
other
day,
I
think
often
times
people
get
misidentified
as
having
a
substance,
abuse
issue
or
a
law
enforcement
issue
or
a
mental
health
issue
when
in
reality
it
could
be
none
of
those
things
other
than
I.
K
I'm
excited
about
a
landlord
of
an
incentive
program
are:
is
there
gonna,
be
somebody
there
to
ensure
that
the
see
the
space
is
safe
and
that
the
landlord
is
doing
what
the
landlord
needs
to
do?
Is
there
going
to
be
somebody
there
that
reminds
a
caseworker,
a
friend
a
person
to
visit
once
in
a
while
right,
because
when
we
take
somebody
out
of
their
community
and
put
them
somewhere
else,
because
we
think
it's
better
for
them?
K
How
are
we
also
addressing
that
human
connection
that
they've
made
in
their
own
communities
and
and
I
think
that's
one
of
the
things
that
seems
to
be
missing
for
me
in
this
conversation
and
I
hope
that,
as
we
continue
this
conversation,
we
invite
those
people
to
the
table
to
bring
in
their
insight
and
create
a
space
that
that
we're
actually
kind
of
doing
this
in
a
holistic
way.
It's
not
just
about
providing
the
resource
and
then
making
somebody
go.
K
There
is
about
understanding
what
that
somebody
needs
and
providing
it
for
them
right
and
so
I
think
really
I.
Guess
it.
There
wasn't
a
question
involved.
It
was
more
of
this.
My
opinion
in
that
I
think
there's
other
voices
that
we
need
that
need
to
be
heard
here
and
I
appreciate
that
there's
meetings
and
there's
things
that
they
can
get
involved
in
I
also
appreciate
that
often
times
people
won't
do
things
unless
we
ask
them
to
and
invite
them
to
the
table.
K
It's
not
just
about
saying,
there's
a
table
and
you
should
show
up
it's
about
saying:
here's
a
seat
at
the
table.
Do
you
mind
sitting
here
and
talking
with
us
and
I
would
encourage
us
as
a
city
and
as
an
administration,
and
as
we
move
forward
to
have
those
conversations
so
that
we
are
addressing
this
holistically.
Mr.
M
Chair
may
I,
I,
don't
know
if
you
stopped
my
head
nodding.
We
have
a
little
bit
of
a
dizziness
right
now
could
not
agree
more
and
I
want
you
to
I.
Want
you
to
feel
assured
that
that
we
understand
that
and
that
we
are,
we
can
always
do
better.
Absolutely
can
always
do
better,
but
we
seek
out
that
voice
as
I
go
through
how
we
approach
encampments,
that
the
voice
of
individuals
experiencing
homelessness
is
an
important
part
of
what
we're
doing
on
a
very
personal
level.
I
seek
that
out
myself.
M
I
want
to
understand
from
the
role
that
I
have
as
a
as
a
policy
adviser
on
homelessness
that
we're
not
missing
something,
and
so
the
Coalition
seeks
and
invites
that
voice
again.
We
can
always
do
better,
but
I
could
not
agree
with
you
more.
That
is
a
critical
part
of
how
we
engage
with
individuals
and
understand
that
I
may
want
that
person
housed
and
I
may
think.
I
know
what's
better
for
them
and
hey.
M
You
know
what
it
may
be
better
for
them,
but
that's
not
where
they're
at
right
and
I
can't
impose
my
solution
onto
that.
Individual
and
I
need
to
be
able
to
work
with
that
individual
and
our
system
needs
to
be
able
to
work
with
that
individual
for
when
they
are
ready,
whatever
that
means,
or
whatever
that
looks
like
I.
K
M
B
A
couple
of
questions
that
I've
received
I
know
that
we've
all
probably
received
them
as
well
and,
and
hopefully
you
can
shed
some
light
on
an
answer.
But
with
you
talked
about
the
warming,
shelter
or
the
warming
Center
and
the
overflow
shelter.
If
both
of
those
places
are
full
and
you
don't
have
the
ability
to
get
hotel
rooms
who
ends
up
making
the
decision
on
what
happens
to
those
individuals.
M
Mr.
Schurr,
that's
a
great
question:
I
think
one.
It's
a
community
decision
as
a
collective
decision
and
I
think
you
had
elected
officials
who
are
committed
to
engaging
in
that
commerce
ongoing
basis
and
not
waiting
to
see
where
we
end
up
with
the
housing
campaign,
for
example,
to
be
prepared
to
make
that
decision
and
I
know.
That
is
something
that
we
will
definitely
be
engaging
the
City
Council
and
as
those
those
conversations
occur
as
well.
Okay,.
B
Because
that's
something
that
we're
gonna
have,
whoever
that
those
decision-makers
are
are
gonna,
have
to
be
very
nimble
and
very
quickly,
because
when
I
hear
you
know
that
we
need
to
involve
that
elected
officials
are
gonna,
be
you
know,
coming
together
and
making
these
change
or
making
these
suggestions
I,
don't
know
if
we're
gonna
have
that
time,
I
mean
the
thing
is.
If,
if
you
know
it
is-
and
it
was
mentioning
18
degrees
out-
and
you
know,
those
two
facilities
are
full
and
you
know
we
can't
get
folks
into
into
a
hotel
room.
B
M
Think
pretty
quick
because
I
think
we're
all
committed
and
I
think
we're
prepared
to
to
have
what
we
need
to
have
in
place.
So
it
doesn't
come
down
to
that
night
right
that,
with
the
the
options
are
available,
the
the
commitment
to
that
goal
of
making
sure
that
there's
a
warm
space
for
everyone.
We
will
make
sure
that
those
options
and
what.
C
M
Is
a
great
transition
point
if
I
could
be
so
bold
to
suggest
one?
Is
it
okay,
mr.
chair,
if
I
use
that
as
an
opportunity
to
jump
into
our
approach
to
encampments,
please
do
okay
and
if
I
don't
answer
the
question,
please
make
sure
that
you
do
so.
You
asked
me
so
I
give
a
little
bit
of
disclaimer.
I
am
so
anti
power,
anti
PowerPoint,
and
so,
if
I
totally
blow
this
just
be
soft,
be
gentle
okay.
So
what
yeah
I
know
right?
M
That's
why
I
had
to
ask
so
I
want
to
say
that
when
we're
talking
about
encampments
and
working
with
individuals
experiencing
homelessness
that
are
living
on
the
streets,
all
the
decision-making
and
everything
that
we're
doing
is
guided
is
guided
by
these
values
and
principles
that
public
space
is
for
everyone
and
I'm
going
to
come
back.
This
idea
of
coexistence
versus
co-opting
safety,
both
public
safety,
public
health
safety,
that
we
want
to
help
individuals,
access
and
connect
information
and
services.
M
So
you
heard
mister
Groth
talk
about
making
sure
that
you're
sharing
information
about
what
resources
are
available.
That's
an
important
guiding
value
in
principle
and
that
we're
making
decisions
at
a
very
at
a
very
specific
identified
issue,
we're
making
those
decisions
with
data
that
we're
talking
to
individuals
or
gathering
the
facts
and
and
letting
those
inform
our
decisions.
M
How
do
we
live
together
being
the
same
space
together
as
a
community,
and
one
of
the
decision
points
if
I
may
is
when
that
space
may
be
being
co-opted?
Okay,
when
ever
not
everyone
feels
like
they
can
access
public
space
we
get
calls.
Sometimes
that
says
there
is
someone
there's
a
homeless
individual
in
my
pocket
park.
Next
to
my
house,
I,
don't
want
them
there
and
we
say
it's
that
individual.
M
So
starting
in
July
of
2018,
we
started
what
I
think
I've
called
this
five
or
six
seven
different
things,
but
our
call
for
the
purposes
of
today
our
internal
homeless
services
committee.
This
committee
is
made
up
of
individuals
from
the
city,
so
you
can
see
the
different
departments
involved
from
the
city,
and
then
we
have
partners
from
outside
the
city.
Volunteers
of
America
Salt,
Lake,
County,
Health,
Department,
Highway
Patrol
in
the
Department
of
Workforce
Services.
M
This
group
and
I'll
get
into
the
process
meets
on
a
regular
basis
to
address
very
specific,
so
I
want
to
go
to
the
purpose
of
the
committee.
This
part,
the
purpose
of
the
committee,
is
to
problem
solve
around
specific
situations
in
our
community,
where
the
intersect
of
individuals
experiencing
homelessness
and
public
spaces
residents
to
problem-solve
that
specific
situation.
So
we,
as
a
committee,
do
not
discuss
what
are
we
going
to
do
about
encampments
in
city
parks?
In
general?
M
We
are
gonna
problem
solve
around
encampments
at
Liberty
Park
at
Fairmont
Park,
so
we're
focused
on
specific
issues,
specific
identified
issues
from
the
community.
This
approach
also
at
times
allows
us
to
add
additional
stakeholders
or
resources
into
the
conversation,
so
I
use
as
an
example,
civil
enforcement.
So
when
we
first
started
probably
one
of
our
most
difficult
issues
that
we've
ever
dealt
with
had
to
do
with
the
mountain
Courtyard
Suites,
who
remembers
the
name
of
the
cafe?
That
was
our
our
get.
M
Thank
you
who
said
that
Russell,
of
course
it
was
Russell.
Of
course,
Russell
knew
so
the
synagro
right
where
the
Cinna
grill
was.
We
had
complaints
of
encampments.
We
had
complaints
of
illegal
activity,
drug
activity
and
when
we
dug
into
the
issue,
what
we
also
found
was
that
there
were
a
lot
of
problems
with
that
apartment,
building
itself
and
on
individuals
being
in
an
unsafe
situations.
So,
in
order
to
problem-solve,
we
had
to
bring
civil
enforcement
into
that
conversation.
M
What
are
the
tools
and
resources
that
this
group,
this
committee
utilizes
I,
mentioned
data,
so
we're
getting
data
from
city
source
from
our
constituent
outreach
from
city
staff?
Experiences
from
our
conversations,
councilmember
Fowler
from
our
conversations
with
individuals
experiencing
homelessness,
our
Community
Action
teams
are
a
resource
oftentimes.
Our
Community
Action
teams
are
deep
our
addressing
issues
before
they
even
need
to
come
to
this
internal
homeless
services
committee.
They
address
at
a
very
local
level.
They
have
stakeholders
at
a
very
local
level.
You
are
all
familiar
where
their
Community
Action
Teams
outreach,
outreach
outreach.
M
So
the
smarter
Litvak,
that's
in
this
room,
deputy
mayor
Litvak,
was
teasing
me
I,
hope,
she's
here.
Yet
yes,
she
is
okay.
Hopefully
I
heard
me
some
points.
You
know
I'm
still
I'm
still
recovering
from
12
years
in
the
legislature.
A
deputy
mayor
that
back
teased
me
about
this
outreach,
outreach,
outreach,
I
said
it
three
times.
I
probably,
would
have
said
it,
many
more
if
I
could
fit
on
the
screen.
That
is
key.
M
Outreach
is
key.
We
have
Volunteers
of
America.
We
have
community
connections
Center.
We
utilize
other
one
voice
recovery,
we're
trying
right
now
to
build
relationships
with
the
Indian
walk-in
center,
because
we
know
there's
this
a
segment
of
our
homeless
community
that
our
Native
Americans.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
they're
connecting
with
culturally
appropriate
services
so
we're
building
those
relationships.
So
the
urban
and
walk
urban
Indian
walking
center
can
become
a
part
of
that
outreach,
public
safety,
both
fire
and
dealing
with
medical
issues,
as
well
as
our
law
enforcement.
M
Our
Co
responder
Salt,
Lake,
County,
Health
Department,
both
an
incredibly
valuable
stakeholder
and
an
incredibly
valuable
resource
advantage
services
advantage
services,
as
you
know,
has
the
Clean
Team
they
help.
When
we
have
bio
waste
on
public
property,
they
help
us
when
what
we
have
is
an
abandoned,
abandoned
encampment
when
there's
just
stuff
there.
We
just
need
it
to
be
picked
up.
We
have
a
contract
with
advantage
services
that
can
go
out
and
address
those
issues
right
away,
and
we
have
other
resources
that
we
utilize.
M
How
are
we
making
decisions,
I
feel
like
I,
said
I
did
know.
So
there
was
a
slide
missing,
see
I
told
you
bad
at
PowerPoint,
I'm,
not
sure
how
how
that
slide
got
missed,
but
that's
okay.
So
how
are
we
making
decisions
with
this
internal
homeless
services
committee?
It's
collaborative
and
consensus,
driven
decisions,
okay,
we're
making
these
decisions
together
and
again
we're
not
talking
about
homelessness
across
the
city
or
encampments
across
the
city.
We're
talking
about
in
problem-solving
for
a
very
specific
issue.
M
M
Obviously,
the
location,
but
also
the
size
of
the
encampment,
whether
the
encampment
is
abandoned
or
occupied
and
I
won't
go
through
this
list.
But
you
can
read
it
again:
we're
trying
to
make
decisions
based
on
information
based
on
data.
We
want
to
be
informed
and
we
want
to
tailor
that
solution
to
the
specific
problem
that
we're
addressing
and
with
that
I'll
just
say
here
are
some
of
the
action
steps
that
we
have
so
again:
engagement,
resource
referral
and
information,
sharing
working
with
the
individuals
experiencing
homelessness
to
mitigate
the
community
impact.
K
When
you
guys
do
like
the
clean
team
or
the
abatement
team,
is
there
any
I
know
this?
It
seems
strange,
but
are
you
gathering
any
sort
of
information
about
what
was
there
ie
like
if
we
are
seeing
needles
in
a
certain
community
or
in
a
certain
area?
If
there
is
I
mean
there's
a
lot
to
be
said
for
what
is
in
somebody's
trash
right,
don't
go
looking
through
mine,
it's
crazy,
but
right,
and
so
so
I'm
wondering
if
we're
gathering
information
as
we're
going
through
this
process.
M
We
looked
at
the
data,
we
knew
how
they
were
being
used.
We
knew
how
often
they
were
being
used.
So
we
knew
that
if
we
were
going
to
it
couldn't
be
a
question
of
taking
away.
It
had
to
be
a
question
of
relocating,
so
the
data
becomes
really
important
when
you
talk
about
the
needles.
One
voice.
Recovery
is
a
great
resource
when
we
are
identifying
needles
and
the
need
for
cleanup,
as
is
the
the
County
Health
Department,
but
we
have
placed
kiosk
around
if
we
have
for
syringe
kiosk
place
within
Salt
Lake
City.
K
Then
I
guess
I
appreciate
the
community
engagement,
part
and
and
I'm
wondering
how
would
I
mean
I
know
how
I
get
a
hold
of
you,
but
how
would
a
community
council
or
community
members,
you
know
we're
certainly
seen
and
have
seen
in
Fairmont
Park
and
sugarhouse
Park?
How
would
our
community
councils
or
our
community
members
get
in
touch
with
you
to
kind
of
learn
what
your
process
is
and
how
we
can
be
part
of
the
solution
as
well?
Well,.
M
For
any
community
council
that
wishes,
we
will
come
out
and
talk
about
processes
and
we've
done
that
and
talked
about
city
sores,
and
so
we
try
and
be
present
in
the
community.
So
it's
easy
for
community
members
to
get
a
hold
of
us,
and
you
all
know
that
we
had
Sandra
Holland's
now
Dylan
Hays
is
taking,
has
taken
her
position,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
there,
but
I
also
want
to
say
that
we
don't
want.
M
C
Questions
one
going
back
to
the
encampments:
what's
gonna
happen
to
the
encampments,
so
for
what
I
understood
it's
like
you're,
looking
at
the
encampments
I
kind
of
observing,
what's
happening
if
they're
going
if
it's
growing
and
then
you
would
tackle
that
issue,
/!
Okay,
so
you
know
you
know
in
our
district
and
you
live
by
the
parks
and
we
we
built.
C
Are
you
live
by
the
parks
and
by
the
library,
and
we,
you
know
the
growing
campaign
in
the
library
on
the
on
the
east
side,
it's
been
growing
more
than
it's
been
being
diffused,
and
so
what
happens
to
those
individuals
or
what
happens
to
those
in
encampments?
How
do
we
help
those
or
how
do
I
answer
to
my
constituency
and
I?
What's
going
on
I,
you
know
it's
scary,
to
go
to
the
library
so.
M
That's
that's
I,.
M
A
great
question:
it
goes
back
to
that
idea,
public
space
for
everyone
and
that
idea
of
coexistence
versus
co-opting
part
of
why
size
of
an
encampment
becomes
a
factor
or
part
of
why.
How
long
an
encampment
has
been
in
a
particular
location
becomes.
A
factor
is
because
that's
when
we
start
to
see
or
to
hear
concerns
about
access
for
everyone,
so
a
sorry
to
sound.
M
They
don't
have
to
go
into
a
Resource
Center
in
order
to
access
housing,
so
oftentimes
vo
is
looking
for
the
individuals
that
have
been
prioritized
for
the
housing.
So
a
we're.
Always
tackling
that
throughout
by
working
with
individuals
where
there
are
and
now
and
here's
where
I
want
to
be
really
clear
with
what
I'm
saying,
because
it
doesn't
come
across
great
and
I.
Probably
shouldn't
have
said
that,
but
we
are
always
balancing
and
Library.
Square
is
a
good
example.
M
But
at
the
same
time
it
gives
that
particular
neighborhood
some
relief
and
it
may
only
be
temporary,
but
it
is
some
immediate
relief,
and
so
we
see
that
sometimes
when
individual
encampments
will
go
from
library
square
to
topher,
Park
and
then
back
and
forth.
We
know
it's
not
an
ideal
solution.
That's
why
we
have
to
continue
to
engage
with
those
individuals
and
to
seek
access
to
services,
but
we
also
have
to
continue
to
struggle
to
find
what
that
coexistence
looks
like
and
how
we
live
together.
As
a
community.
C
M
I
mean
I
think
the
best
thing
to
do
would
actually
be
to
put
the
chairs
of
the
Central
City
Community
Council
in
touch
with
the
chairs
of
the
Liberty
Wells
Community
Council,
because
it
really
started-
and
we
have
amazing
chairs
of
all
our
community
council
meetings
right
of
our
community
councils.
But
it
really
started
from
wanting
to
engage
in
the
conversation
and
the
difficult
conversation
of
what
does
that
coexistence
looks
like
if
I
just
kick
someone
out
of
this
park
them
I
really
resolving
the
issue.
How
do
I
become
a
part
of
the
broader
conversation.
B
I
Question
isn't
I'm?
Sorry,
it's
not
around
kind
of
what
you
discuss.
Mine
was
over
in
regards
to
what
mr.
wood
discussed
in
regards
to
four
issues
for
helping
affordability,
one
was
ad
use
which
we've
looked
at
and
passed
zoning
issues,
which
is
what
I
want
to
discuss.
Tod
s
and
RDA
zoning
issues.
Has
the
administration
found
any
zoning
issues
that
is
prohibiting
us
from
doing
affordability?
I
I
M
I
think
actually,
with
with
councilmember
Fowler
and
councilmember
Mendenhall
in
the
conversations
about
SROs
in
single
resident,
occupancies
I
think
we
did
identify
some
zoning
barriers.
We
have
areas
in
the
city
that
are
strictly
zoned
single
resident.
You
know
areas
so
I
think
that
is
probably
the
number
one
issue
that
we've
identified.
D
D
Q
I'm
Jen
Campbell
I'm,
the
executive
director
of
South
Valley
Services.
We
primarily
serve
victims
of,
and
survivors
of,
domestic
and
sexual
assault.
We
have
a
shelter,
that's
located
in
West
Jordan,
and
then
we
have
mobile
advocates
that
we
co
locate
in
libraries
and
city
halls
throughout
Salt
Lake
County
and
provide
supportive
services.
Q
We
appreciate
the
time
here
to
address
you
I'll
start
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
our
Crisis
Response
core
function.
Group
I
really
appreciate
the
comments
that
were
said
as
a
service
provider.
What
I
have
appreciated
about
the
Salt
Lake
Valley
coalition
and
homelessness
is
I,
was
attending
meetings
everywhere.
I
could
to
figure
out
how
to
bring
voices
of
those
that
I
serve.
I
technically
serve
a
subpopulation
of
homelessness
and
it
was
hard
for
me
navigating
all
those
different
places,
I
really
appreciated.
Q
When
we
shifted
the
way
we
were
responding
to
homelessness,
to
provide
a
location
where
our
voices
could
come
together
and
look
at
the
promises
or
the
problems
that
we're
facing
and
look
at
solutions
that
we
could
collectively
come
and
bring
together.
We
are
in
particular,
looking
at
the
crisis
response.
Our
purpose
is
better
connecting
clients
with
crisis
response
services,
with
a
focus
on
resource,
centers,
shelters,
food
security,
diversion
and
intake
outreach,
first
responders
and
medical
respite
that
will
support
their
efforts
to
find
safety
security,
maintain
stable
housing
and
to
make
homelessness.
Q
Rare
brief
and
non-recurring
that's
a
huge
purpose.
So
let
me
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
So
essentially,
we
have
six
subgroups
that
we
work
with
in
this
core
function.
Group.
Those
are
one
of
those
as
resource,
centers
and
shelters.
Some
of
the
things
our
subgroups
are
looking
at
is
the
need
to
invite
other
providers
the
table
figuring
out
who's,
not
accessing
shelter,
and
why
looking
at
turn
away
rates
and
and
data,
and
what
that
means,
we
have
a
food
security
subgroup
of
meats.
Q
We
have
a
diversion
intake
group
who
one
of
the
things
they're
looking
at
is
including
how
many
people
are
able
to
be
diverted.
Look
at
the
type
of
questions,
acid
intake,
looking
at
more
information
that
we
need
to
be
collecting
and
how
to
better
serve.
Another
subgroup
is
outreach
and
first
responders
they're.
Q
There's
the
also
another
subgroup
is
medical
respite
who
is
looking
at
all
of
the
different
subgroups
and
figuring
out
how
we
can
work
closely
within
those
committees
to
ensure
that
processes
are
stable,
established
that
are
aged
friendly
to
those
that
are
in
need
some
of
the
deliverables,
but
we
also
have
another
subgroup
of
transportation
and
focusing
on
the
issues
they're.
Some
of
the
things
that
we
are
looking
in
is
in
this
function.
Q
Group
is
shared
definitions
of
services,
integrating
domestic
violence,
information
with
homeless
services,
information,
improved
data
on
unsheltered
services,
looking
at
enhanced
information
services
to
older
populations,
and
then
another
is
understanding
the
impact
capacity
and
the
lack
of
it
will
have
on
overall
use
and
our
homeless
of
systems,
which
Michelle
will
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
how
we're
looking
at
capacity
and
as
we're
we're
navigating
these
changes.
Thank.
D
You
and
first
I
just
want
to
thank
you
as
City
Council
members
for
holding
this
information
gathering
session.
This
is
an
incredibly
complex
issue
and
we
do
have
this
crisis
that's
facing
us
every
day,
and
it's
really
important
that
you
hear
about
all
the
long-term
and
strategic
planning
and
structure
that
we
have
in
place.
So
you
know
we're
also
looking
at
the
planning
down
the
line.
So
thank
you
for
taking
so
much
time
today.
I
just
wanted
to
add
on
briefly
to
what
Jen
said.
D
We
do
have
the
emergency,
shelter
and
outreach
and
diversion
components
in
our
crisis,
core
function
group.
So
we
are
looking
at
capacity.
We
are
looking
at
the
number
of
people
that
are
out
on
sheltered
the
reach
that
we
have
with
our
outreach
teams,
whether
or
not
those
folks
are
getting
into
emergency
settings
or
going
right
into
housing.
There's
a
lot
of
data
gathering,
that's
going
to
be
really
beneficial
for
us
all
to
be
looking
at
as
a
community
going
forward.
D
D
So
we're
looking
at
it
from
this
higher
level
of
how
all
these
things
are
working
together
and
making
sure
that
we
have
targeted
strategies
towards
the
different
communities
and
populations
that
exist
in
in
and
the
guests
that
we
see.
So
with
that.
What
our
plan
is
to
pull
this
information
together
and
feed
it
up
with
the
other
core
function,
groups
to
the
Salt,
Lake
Valley
coalition
steering
committee,
and
we
will
be
producing
a
document
in
the
spring
or
early
early
summer.
D
That
will
be
a
tool
that
will
be
able
to
identify
gaps
and
priorities
in
our
system.
It'll
be
something
that
we're
doing
to
provide
to
elected
officials
to
provide
to
funders
so
that
we
can
use
our
resources
as
strategically
as
possible
and
with
that
I'll
just
wrap
it
up,
and
we
can
be
open
for
questions.
D
A
B
H
B
O
O
I
was
asked
specifically
to
talk
about
the
state,
strategic
plan
and
unsheltered
homelessness,
but
I
am
available
to
answer
other
questions.
If
you
have
them,
I
want
to
give
a
brief
history
of
kind
of
where
the
state
a
ride.
To
this
strategic
plan.
We
had
an
audit
conducted
by
the
legislative
audit
performance
audit
released
in
December
2018,
which
subsequently
led
to
legislation
House
bill
342
and
the
2018
general
session
or
2019
general
session.
O
So
the
state
homeless
coordinator
is
really
an
entity
that
issues
the
funding
that
the
state's
appropriates
for
direct
homeless
services
and
the
idea
behind
the
state
strategic
plan
aligned
with
these
locals
is
figuring
out,
what's
being
funded.
Currently,
what
are
the
gaps
in
the
system?
You
know
we're
highlighting
a
lot
of
interesting
conversations
around
where
gaps
are
where
the
bottlenecks
may
be.
O
This
is
exactly
what
we're
looking
for
local
input
in
how
the
state
makes
its
investments,
so
the
state
strategic
plan
making
homelessness,
rare,
brief
and
non-recurring,
and
these
are
all
posted
our
website,
housing,
Utah
gov,
is
really
around
achieving
those
three
goals
and
any
local
community
that
can
identify
how
they're
gonna
implement
efforts
to
achieve
those
goals.
That's
the
idea
behind
the
state
supporting
it.
So,
in
conjunction
with
that,
that's
kind
of
the
history
of
what
the
strategic
plan
says
and
a
short
summary
is,
is
your
plan?
O
Becomes
our
plan
and
I
can
say
that
about
unsheltered
homelessness
as
well,
how
we
will
help
support
that
from
a
state
perspective,
we've
been
working
hand-in-glove,
a
lot
with
Salt
Lake
City
over
the
last.
You
know
two
and
a
half
years
on
unsheltered
homelessness
through
a
variety
of
responses.
We
actually
helped
in
conjunction
with
David
litt
back
and
the
Salt
Lake
PD,
a
toolkit
for
other
communities
on
how
to
address
unsheltered
homelessness
in
their
communities.
Salt
Lake
City
is
nice.
O
They
got
a
robust
system,
you
have
a
place,
you
can
call,
and
you
have
people
that
understand
the
issue
on
the
other
end
of
the
line,
which
is
a
key
component
for
most
communities.
It's
nice
that
Salt
Lake
City
has
something
like
that,
but
you
also
have
a
lot
of
coordination
between
social
workers
and
law
enforcement,
because
typically
law
enforcement
is
the
you
know
the
touch
point
for
a
lot
of
unsheltered
homelessness,
and
so
we
support
all
of
those
efforts.
We've
supported
it
through
operation,
Rio
Grande.
O
We
would
still
support
it,
but
the
bottom
line
is
we're
here
to
help
support
local
communities,
efforts
in
pushing
these
issues
forward
and
aligning
the
state
strategic
investments
in
in
conjunction
with
those
plans.
So
with
that
I'm
open
to
any
questions,
but
that's
pretty
much.
How
we're
the
state
strategic
plan
ties
into
unsheltered
homelessness?
It's
really
a
coordinated
effort
between
the
local
communities
and
when
I
say
that
we
are
looking
to
the
Salt
Lake
Valley
coalition
to
end
homelessness
as
the
entity
that
feeds
those
recommendations
up
to
the
state
for
Salt
Lake
County
in
general.
C
Thank
you.
How
are
you
doing
good?
So
thank
you
so
much
for
that,
and
it
seems,
like
you,
have
an
outreach
plan
for
the
rest
of
the
county
or
even
for
the
state,
so
to
other
communities
that
have
neighbors
that
are
experiencing
homelessness.
Work
has
a
response
been
like?
Have
you
had
a
lot
of
takers
on
hey?
We
have
a
plan.
Please
help
out
with
this
is
are
the
gaps
that
we
have
in
our
communities
or
has
a
been
well
Salt,
Lake
City,
who
has
most
of
the
resources
right
now
we're
not
I'd.
O
Say
shortly
a
part
after
operation,
Rio
Grande
we've
received
many
phone
calls
from
communities
that
I
don't
want
to
say.
Unsheltered
homelessness
was
never
there,
but
all
the
sudden
everybody
started
to
notice
unsheltered
homelessness,
and
so
we
have
presented
to
several
cities
and
counties
on
this
particular
issue.
This
is
our
I.
O
Don't
there's
no
silver
bullet
in
this
document,
because
it
really
is
here's
the
principles
you
should
develop
as
a
local
community,
but
it's
still
up
to
the
local
community
on
how
that
gets
resourced,
whether
they
have
somebody
on
staff,
how
they
train
their
police
department
getting
connected
with
the
service
providers
in
those
communities,
those
are
all
recommendations
and
and
that
we
would
make
to
any
community.
So
when
we've
been
invited,
we
have
gone,
we
I
I,
don't
think.
O
C
You-
and
you
know
that
was
one
in
our
in
our
press.
Release
I
was
kind
of
our
call
as
well
to
the
rest
of
the
county.
Please
you
know
we
are
a
crisis
and
we
need
your
help.
I
think
solid
city.
We
can
do
everything,
we
do
a
lot
and
we
do
a
little
bit
more,
but
that
was
our
call
to
action
to
the
rest
of
the
communities.
Please
in
your
North
County
at
least.
Please
help
us
as
well
with
you
know
with
your.
If
your
neighbors
are
experiencing
homelessness,
please
help
them
too.
C
B
N
Well,
thank
you
very
much
for
the
invitation.
Today.
We
appreciate
it.
It's
nice
to
see
you
all
glad.
I
came
early.
I
just
want
to
open
with
I
think
you've
done
introductions
of
everyone,
but
I'm
gonna
outline
who's,
gonna
address
which
issues
based
on
them
everywhere.
You
see
from
staff
regarding
the
issues,
so
I'm
gonna
just
do
an
overview
of
our
presentation
and
our
presenters.
So
Katherine
Fife
is
with
us
she's
the
director
of
programs
and
partnerships.
N
She's
gonna
talk
about
the
county's
role
in
the
Salt
Lake
Valley
coalition
to
end
homelessness
and
then
some
of
the
other
ways
that
the
county
contributes
to
the
homelessness
initiatives.
Our
Human
Services
Department,
director,
Karen
Crompton,
is
going
to
discuss
social
services
that
we
provide
at
the
county
that
touch
homelessness.
It's
not
exclusive
to
homelessness
work,
but
the
work
we
do
in
behavioral
health
services
in
our
youth
services
program,
as
well
as
our
contract
with
the
LDA
and
how
that
touches
and
intersects
with
this
population.
N
And
then
third,
we
have
our
director
of
the
health
department,
Gary
Edwards
who's,
going
to
talk
about
the
role
that
we
have
in
public
health,
from
everything
to
a
health
emergency,
to
ways
that
we
intersect
with
this
community
and
then
our
role
in
the
encampment
cleanups
and
mitigation
throughout
the
city
and
the
county
and
I'll
go
ahead
and
turn
the
time
over
to
Kathryn.
To
kick
things
off.
G
Thank
you.
I've
been
attending
these
meetings
as
a
part
as
a
as
a
you
know,
person
who's
watched
all
of
this
happen,
but
never
had
the
privilege
of
sitting
here.
I
also
really
admire
all
the
work
that
you
all
do
to
make
our
communities
a
better
place
for
everyone.
So
thank
you
for
this
effort
and
inviting
us
here,
I
really
feel
lucky
to
to
be
in
the
role
that
I
am
at
Salt,
Lake,
County
and
I'm.
G
Here
too,
I
just
described
that
role
where
we're
strong
partners
in
really
a
community-wide
effort
to
address
homelessness-
and
you
know
my
role
here
has
been
fairly
short
last
couple
of
years,
but
it
is
inspiring
to
see
the
number
of
stakeholders,
individuals,
community
members,
political
leaders
who
all
care
so
much
and
engage
in
this
conversation.
So
it
is.
It
is
really
a
privilege
and
you've
heard
a
lot
about
the
Salt
Lake
Valley
coalition
to
end
homelessness
and
really
Salt.
G
Even
if
we
have
differing
opinions
of
the
strategies,
we
all
have
a
clear
and
aligned
commitment
to
helping
provide
resource
resources
for
those
in
need,
and
as
long
as
we
can
continue
to
focus
on
that
and
have
what
are
sometimes
difficult
conversations
we'll
get
there.
It
might
take
a
minute
because
this
is
complex,
but
we
will
sow
Salt
Lake
County.
G
We
we
fulfill
a
role
called
the
collaborative
applicant
in
the
steering
committee
of
the
coalition,
which
so
many
of
them
are
here
today
or
I'm
sure
they're
listening
if
they're,
not
here,
they're
so
amazing,
they
have
chosen
Salt
Lake
County
to
serve
in
the
collaborative
applicant
role
and
are
the
ones
who
administer
all
of
the
functions,
basically
staff.
The
coalition.
We
also
apply
for
federal
funding
on
behalf
of
our
community
for
upwards
of
eight
million
dollars
to
provide
housing
for
those
experiencing
homelessness.
G
We
also
look
for
partnerships
to
apply
for
additional
funding
to
bring
additional
resources
to
serve
those
who
are
in
need.
We
want
to
be
a
part
of
the
solution
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
place
where
everyone
can
do
that,
so
the
Coalition
has
offered
for
the
has
voted
to
approve
Salt
Lake
County
to
do
that.
But
there
are
so
many
people
within
Salt,
Lake
County
that
are
committed
to
this
effort
as
well.
G
We
have
on
the
coalition
of
the
300
members,
14
Salt
Lake
County
employees
who
are
individually
members,
so
many
more
of
them
attend
meetings
and
then,
while
me
and
my
team
there's
a
team
of
three
of
us
who,
every
day
work
on
these
issues,
we
have
we
work.
We
meet
weekly
with
internal
staff,
members
of
Salt
Lake
County,
to
address
where
areas
throughout
Salt
Lake
County
intersect
with
homelessness,
to
make
sure
that
we're
most
effectively
utilizing
our
resources
and
also
working
together
with
our
partners
to
address
homelessness.
G
So
there's
a
lot
of
different
ways
that
Salt
Lake
County.
Does
that
just
want
to
say
that
internally
much
like
Salt,
Lake,
City,
Salt,
Lake
County
meets
on
a
regular
basis,
at
least
every
other
week
we've
been
meeting
more
often
with
the
current
situation
that
we've
been
facing
in
our
community.
With
this
big
huge
shift
in
unique,
innovative
new
ways
to
address
homelessness.
It's
scary.
Do
we
all
know
that
it's
going
to
work?
No,
but
are
we
committed
to
doing
things
differently
than
we've
done
things
in
the
past?
G
G
G
Salt
Lake
County
has
served
on
that
transition.
Committee.
I
have
myself
served
on
the
steering
committee,
so
we
we
meet
weekly
and
we
speak
daily
and
sometimes
more
than
once
to
make
sure
that
we're
really
understanding
and
and
deploying
our
resources
and
the
best
way
possible,
and
we
work
really
closely
with
our
partners,
especially
closely
with
the
state
and
the
city
I.
G
Just
I'm,
just
I
feel
like
I'm,
representing
two
things
right:
all
of
the
really
smart,
well
resourced
people
at
Salt,
Lake,
County,
and
also
this
collective
community
effort
that
is
led
by
the
steering
committee
of
the
Salt
Lake
Valley
coalition
I
feel
like
I'm
a
little
bit
of
a
bridge,
but
we're
we
have
lots
of
tentacles
out
there,
trying
to
be
more
efficient,
bring
everyone
together,
but,
most
importantly,
make
sure
that
we
have
a
place
to
do
that.
So
anyway.
P
Okay,
I'm
Karen
Crompton,
director
of
human
services
for
Salt,
Lake,
County
and
I'm
pleased
to
have
the
opportunity
to
share
with
you
some
of
the
intersections
of
human
services
with
this
overall
issue.
I
think
some
of
our
divisions
are
may
be
obvious
to
you.
You
hear
a
lot
about
the
health
department's
role,
but
actually
every
division
within
Human
Services
touches
on
the
issue.
In
aging
adult
services,
we
have
a
case
manager
who
focuses
on
the
senior
homeless
population.
P
We
are
seeing
not
only
an
increase
in
seniors
across
the
state
of
the
nation,
but
it's
also
an
increasing
population
facing
homelessness
in
some
cases,
because
a
person
can
no
longer
afford
to
stay
in
an
assisted
living
facility,
other
circumstance
and
they
are,
and
sometimes
literally
dumped
on
the
street.
Almost
so
that's
been
a
very
positive
addition
to
have
a
case
manager
associated
with
our
aging
and
adult
services.
P
Our
youth
services
department
division
has
a
homeless
youth
walk-in
program.
It's
at
our
junior,
our
youth
services
receiving
center.
The
program
can
provide
24-hour
services
to
homeless
youth.
There's
no
ID
required
for
to
access
these
services.
We
can
provide
overnight
shelter.
We
provide
food
laundry
and
shower
facilities
and
also
counseling.
We
are
limited
to
how
long
we
can
retain
a
youth
within
my
facility
like
this,
but
it
is
a
positive
place
for
them
to
show
up
and
for
us
to
try
to
connect
them
to
other
services.
P
Our
Youth
Services
also
has
a
program
called
the
milestone
program,
which
is
a
transitional
living
program
for
homeless,
youth
up
to
age
21
we
receive
referrals,
sometimes
from
Volunteers
of
America
DCFS
for
kids,
young
adults,
who
are
aging
out
of
foster
care
and
have
nowhere
else
to
go.
We
have
three
homes,
two
are
in
Sandy
and
one
is
in
West
Valley.
The
two
sandy
homes
accommodate
ten
young
men,
where
we
provide
online
sake,
on-site
case
management
for
them
job,
counseling,
education
assistance.
We
have
a
facility
in
West
Valley
for
young
women.
P
We
will
be
adding
early
next
year
for
additional
rooms
for
young
people
to
stay
in
our
sandy
site.
We're
forming
some
good
partnerships.
You
Utah,
Valley
University
is
going
to
be
providing
some
scholarships
to
these
youth
and
not
just
giving
them
a
scholarship
to
UVU
but
intense
mentoring.
To
be
sure
they
succeed
when
they
get
there.
It's
been
an
incredible
program
and
hearing
some
of
the
stories
of
successful
youth
who
have
gone
through
the
milestone
and
transitioned
into
successful
jobs
and
lives.
We
would
love
to
share
some
of
those
letters
with
you.
P
They
are
inspiring
in
behavioral
health.
We
have
a
really
big
touch
on
the
homeless
population
and
criminal
justice
population,
which
sometimes
are
interlinked.
Unfortunately,
through
behavioral
health,
we
help
provide
support
for
permanent
supportive
housing.
You
may
have
seen
the
news
articles
about
the
Denver
Street
project
that
opened
last
week.
That'll
accommodate
22
individuals
and
next
July
1st
step
house
will
be
opening
an
apartment
complex
just
over
on
fifth
East
that'll
house,
75
people
that
may
that's
a
huge
impact
on
this
population.
That
really
is
very
much
underserved
in
this
area.
P
I
would
also
say
it's
not
a
direct
homeless
issue,
but
since
2017
we've
more
than
doubled
the
capacity
for
residential
treatment
at
places
like
Odyssey
house
at
first
step
house
in
2017,
we
are
at
about
a
hundred
and
seventy
residential
treatment
beds
available.
We
are
now
approaching
500
and
again
these
are
people
who
might
otherwise
have
found
themselves
on
the
street
being
homeless.
It
doesn't
serve
as
a
homeless
shelter,
but
it
does
alleviate
some
of
the
pressure
on
the
system
last
year
with
some
assistance
from
the
state.
P
We
are
expected
to
spend
close
to
two
million
dollars
this
year
on
vouchers,
and
we
will
be
serving
close
to
last
year
was
423
this
year,
we're
going
to
be
close
to
900
clients
that
were
able
to
serve
the
average
length
of
stay
is
around
4
months.
So
we're
very
excited
about
these
programs
that
again
take
some
of
the
pressure
off
the
homeless,
resource,
centers
and
others
sources
that
are
out
there.
One
other
piece
that's
been
helpful.
It
was
a
change.
P
It
was
part
of
a
Medicaid
Waiver
that
allows
for
Medicaid
dollars
to
pay
for
social
detox.
It
hasn't
increased
necessarily
the
capacity
at
our
detox
centers
for
VOA,
but
it
frees
up
County
City
dollars
that
would
have
to
be
spent
on
detox
to
paid
for
by
Medicaid
and
utilize
those
funds
for
other
kinds
of
services
that
this
population
needs.
With
that
I'm
gonna
hand
it
off
to
Gary
Edwards,
who
I
said
obviously
has
a
very
visible
role.
In
this
whole
conversation.
P
J
G
J
County
I
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
the
Health
Department
does
not
do
the
clean
ups.
We
coordinate
cleanups,
and
we
do
that
because
of
our
responsibilities
in
state
law,
to
make
sure
that
sources
of
Filth
in
a
community
are
abated.
We
work
with
public
property
owners,
private
property
owners
to
help
accomplish
that.
That
coordination
means
that
we
work
with
city
departments.
J
J
Thousands
of
tons
of
waste
that
has
been
gathered
over
the
past
couple
of
years
again
want
to
emphasize
that
during
the
cold
winter
months
during
these
cleanups,
we
do
not
remove
tents,
blankets,
sleeping
bags.
Those
things
are
left.
We
are
not
we're
concerned
about
public
health
and
individuals
need
to
stay
warm.
J
J
J
We
work
very
closely
with
that
community.
Our
nurses
were
we're
on
the
river
or
at
encampments,
identifying
individuals
trying
to
identify
those
who
might
be
ill
and
help
them
to
seek
treatment,
but
more
often
identifying
individuals
who
could
benefit
from
receiving
vaccinations.
This
isn't
something
new
that
we've
done
with
this
population.
J
J
It's
public
health
effort,
it's
not
necessarily
a
Salt
Lake
County
Public
Health
Initiative,
the
Legislature
granted
opportunity
for
community
organizations
to
provide
syringe
exchange
programs.
We,
along
with
the
city,
have
worked
with
those
organizations
to
try
and
come
up
with
the
best
model
for
Salt
Lake
City.
We
provide
the
resource
of
taking
the
syringes
that
are
collected
by
those
organizations
and
making
sure
that
they
are
disposed
of
properly.
J
David
mentioned
the
four
kiosks
that
are
available
and
those
service
providers
bring
syringes
to
our
office
to
make
sure
that
they
are
disposed
of.
My
staff,
who
was
involved
in
the
cleanup
report,
and
we
obviously
weren't
counting
syringes
prior
or
even
now,
but
the
report
is
syringes
while
they're
still
found
in
cleanups
are
not
they're,
not
as
many
as
there
used
to
be,
and
so
progress
is
being
made
in
that
effort
and
with
with
that
we'd,
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Okay,.
K
I
want
to
just
say
that
I
appreciate
something
that
Karen
brought
up
and
I
made.
This
big
note
on
my
notebook
that
says
transitioning
populations
and,
as
we
have
been
having
this
discussion
throughout
the
afternoon
and
sort
of
bringing
I
brought
up
earlier,
the
various
communities
that
find
themselves
experiencing
homelessness
for
one
reason
or
another
and
and
they're
not
all
the
same
at
all.
But
one
of
the
things
that
you
brought
up
and
I
sorry
I
had
to
leave
at
the
end
of
your
presentation,
David,
but
I.
K
I
would
hope
that
we
can
ask
the
administration
to
work
with
the
mayor-elect
on
this
of
what
are
some
of
the
programs
that
we
can
support
for
those
transitioning
populations
so
that
we
are
taking
sort
of
that
preventative
step
before
somebody
finds
themselves
experiencing
homelessness.
I
mean
you
brought
up.
K
If
that
there's
some
collaboration
there
as
we,
you
know
I,
certainly-
and
we
in
this
sitting
up
here-
don't
have
the
power
to
create
programs,
but
we
certainly
have
the
power
to
fund
them.
And
here
we
have
that
power
to
say:
where
is
this
and
how
should
we?
What
should
we
be
doing
there
right?
That's
and
what
policies
can
we
look
at
where
we're
protecting
aging
populations
from
from
their
last
paycheck
of
getting
out,
which
is
why
excuse
me
in
part?
K
We
we
approved
the
ad
use
right,
because
that
is
an
alternative
for
our
aging
populations,
but
I
would
encourage
our
admin
to
work
as
you
continue
this
this
coalition
and
we
work
together
with
the
mayor,
elect
to
see
how
how
we
can
support
those.
So
we
take
that
preventative
steps.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
reminding
me
of
those
populations
that
maybe
we
sort
of
forget
about,
but
really
are
one
step
away
from
from
experiencing
something
we
don't
want
them
to
have
to
experience.
H
H
J
Well,
I
guess
I'll
be
bold
enough
to
say
the
Health
Department
makes
that
death
decision.
We
coordinate
the
cleanup.
We
get
the
individuals
together
to
do
the
cleanup,
and
so
we
provide
instruction
before
each
cleanup
here's
what
here's,
what
our
responsibility
is
today.
This
is
what
we're
looking
for.
This
is
what
we're
not
going
to
disturb.
P
Could
I
just
add
on
to
that
Gary
talks
about?
We
coordinate
a
lot
of
things,
but
we
have
Health
Department
employees
who
are
directly
involved
in
the
cleanups
as
well
as
a
number
of
County
volunteers.
Last
year,
deputy
mayor
Aaron
Litvak
had
the
opportunity
to
participate
at
a
cleanup
on
the
Jordan
River
and
a
number
of
other
county
employees
as
well
and
I.
N
And
if
I
could
add
to
that
as
well,
I
think
it's
been
probably
highlighted
by
mr.
Litvak
presentation
as
well
as
Gary's,
but
there
is
a
48-hour
posting
before
a
cleanup
occurs
and
we
coordinate
really
closely
with
service
providers
to
try
to
reach
out
and
provide
people
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
as
a
different
opportunity
other
than
sleeping
on
the
street,
so
I
think
from
a
humane
perspective.
N
In
the
winter
months,
we
came
to
the
decision
to
not
remove
these
things,
because
we
don't
want
anyone
to
be
in
harm's
way
during
the
cold
winter
months,
but
we
do
coordinate
and
try
to
mitigate
those
issues
ahead
of
time.
It's
not
just
we're
not
going
to
do
anything
about
this
cleanup.
It's
that
we're
gonna
try
to
make
every
effort
to
try
to
redirect
this
individual
into
a
program
that
can
help
them
long-term.
I
J
J
It
gets
reported
to
us
by
perhaps
someone
who
is
out
hiking
and
saw
a
situation.
We
then
investigate
it,
determine
the
urgency
visit
with
the
property
owner
work
out,
a
strategy
between
both
them
and
their
responsibility
for
cleanup
us
and
our
responsibility
for
notifying
individuals,
helping
them
find
out
other
resources
before
the
cleanup
is
handled
so.
I
J
We
will
try
to
work
with
that
property
owner
to
get
that
taken
care
of
before
we
have
to
do
anything
even
civilly,
but
just
through
more
encouragement,
we
we
typically
I
mean
it
doesn't
have
to
be
done
right
now.
We
work
out
a
schedule
with
them
to
do
the
cleanup
and
make
sure
that
it
gets
taken
care
of
I
I.
I
Just
Mike
my
question:
this
is
just
because
I'm
along
the
Jordan
River,
there
is
a
lot
of
that
that,
yes,
it
does
go
on
in
people's
backyards,
and
people
have
said
you
know
even
no
I
didn't
believe
and
they
just
keep
on
coming
back.
So
this
is
I
mean
if
we
could
get
that
information.
That
way,
we
could
hand
it
out
and
just
say
you
know,
this
is
pray
basically
the
protocol.
These
are
the
steps
and
here's
the
information,
but.
J
N
J
J
H
K
B
Questions
it's
a
question
for
deputy
mayor
lit
back.
You
guys
have,
but
I
mean
a
very,
very
tough
responsibility
to
provide
all
the
social
services
related
to
homelessness.
Correct
I
mean
that's
the
that's.
What
counties
do
or
supposed
to
do?
Do
you
feel
that
you
have
the
resources
that
you
need
in
order
to
accomplish
your
mission,
I.
N
Would
say
first
I'd
throw
a
caveat.
There
I
think
it's
not
just
the
county's
responsibility
for
social
services.
We
also
have
a
lot
of
nonprofit
partners
that
are
offered
funding
through
both
state
county
and
local
efforts.
So
we
rely
unequivocally
on
those
partners,
whether
it's
Volunteers
of
America
Catholic,
Community
Services,
to
partner
with
us
to
do
those
when
it
comes
to
the
services
we
provide
at
the
county
related
to
the
Health
Department
and
our
other
agencies
I
feel
like
we
are
adequately
funded
and
I.
N
Think
we've
been
graced
with
a
council
that
pays
great
attention
to
the
issues
that
are
in
front
of
us
and
that
are
prevalent
in
our
community.
We
have
over
matched
our
behavioral
health
requirement
from
from
the
state
and
the
federal
funding
for
for
at
least
a
decade
as
long
as
I've
been
at
the
county
and
when
we
have
a
true
needs
arise
and
we
raise
those
issues
and
we
go
to
our
council.
We
usually
work
very
closely
with
them
to
find
the
resources.
We
need
some
of
the
biggest
things
that
have
impacted.
N
P
I
just
add
to
that
in
the
area
of
behavioral
health,
a
lack
of
resources
is
not
our
major
challenge.
Right
now,
as
Erin
mentioned
medicate,
the
targeted
adult
Medicaid
expansion
has
picked
up
a
lot
of
the
expense
we
were
incurring.
Our
challenge
right
now
is
workforce.
There
are
not
enough
social
workers,
especially
LCSW
Zoar
therapists,
to
staff
things.
We
have
36
beds
open
at
first
step
house
right
now,
because
we
can't
hire
a
therapist
and
we're
trying
to
work
with
the
university
statewide
to
get
more
people
into
the
pipeline.
N
B
Okay,
so
that
brings
us
to
the
end
of
our
information
gathering
fact-finding
session.
For
the
day
we
will
have
public
comment
opportunities
during
our
work
session
or
our
formal
meeting
tonight
at
7
o'clock.
If
you
would
like
to
record
something
via
video,
you
can
still
do
that
in
the
hot
just
down
the
hall.
If
you
want
to
record
your
your
comments,
instead
of
waiting
until
7
o'clock
with
that
I
will
look
to
our
executive
director
for
a
report.
M
B
D
D
Let's
get
started
with
our
legislative
update
and
look
back
at
its
September
24th
meeting
the
City
Council,
acting
as
the
Redevelopment
Agency
approved
a
3.3
million
dollar
loan
for
a
new
housing
development
at
about
4th
west
and
3rd
South.
They
received
an
update
on
proposals
for
the
Utah
theater
property
and
approved
the
final
step
toward
dispersing
six
point:
1
million
dollars
for
affordable
housing
projects
in
the
city.