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A
We
are
going
to
get
started
here
with
our
RDA
board
meeting
this
morning
afternoon.
I,
don't
know
what
time
it
is.
We
have
a
lot
of
general
comments
and
so
I
just
want
to
go
over
a
couple
of
things
before
we
get
started.
First
I
would
appreciate
if
everyone
will
be
giving
everyone
two
minutes
to
speak
and
I
would
appreciate
if
we
can
remember
that,
we're
all
here
to
listen
and
be
respectful
of
one
another.
A
So
if
I
could
please
just
ask
everyone
to
be
respectful
as
we
move
forward
with
our
general
comment
period
and
then,
like
I,
said
what
I
would
like
to
do
is
when
I
call
your
name.
If
you
just
want
to
step
up
to
the
table,
pick
a
microphone
and
we
will
begin
your
two
minutes
when
you
get
up
to
the
table
I'm
going
to
read
two
names
at
a
time,
so
that
the
second
person
can
be
prepared,
like
you're,
on
deck,
to
come
on
up
and
give
us
give
us
your
words
and
your
comments.
A
A
We
also
have
a
in
the
breezeway
right
out
here
that
goes
out
into
the
balcony.
We
set
up
a
video
camera,
so
if
two
minutes
is
not
enough-
and
you
would
like
to
continue
your
comments-
please
head
out
that
way,
and
we
have
an
intern
and
some
staff
members
out
there.
If
you
do
not
want
to
make
a
public
oral
comment,
please
email
us!
You
can
write
it
on
the
card
and
simply
give
it
to
one
of
our
staff
members
and
so
we're
here
to
accommodate
there's
water
out
in
the
hallway
as
well.
A
B
Name
is
Steve
mccurdy
I'm
here
representing
the
over
3,600
I,
believe
that
people
who
have
signed
the
petition
to
save
the
Utah
theatre,
I'm
gonna,
read
some
of
the
comments
that
have
been
sent
to
me
a
most
worthy
cause.
How
we
treat
our
local
architecture
demonstrates
our
respect
and
esteem
for
those
who
have
come
before.
Let's
save
this
theater
Angela
Steven
says
old.
Theater
such
as
this
are
gems
that
are
meant
to
be
restored
in
TRAI,
treasured
le
sergeant
says
so
much
of
our
architectural
heritage
in
Salt,
Lake
City
is
gone.
B
We
need
to
save
the
remaining
treasures
we
have.
A
building
with
this
kind
of
craftsmanship
will
never
be
built
again.
Paul
Gibbs.
This
theater
was
a
second
home
to
my
family
and
me,
and
it's
an
important
part
of
Utah's
cultural
history,
Jennifer
Billingsley.
We
continue
to
destroy
history
for
new
sky
Rises.
Then
we
lament
the
loss
of
the
beauty
and
architecture.
This
is
a
historic
site
and
deserves
to
be
preserved.
Julie
Olstad.
This
is
a
gorgeous
historical
treasure
that
still
has
so
much
value
to
the
community.
Please
preserve
it
and
protect
it.
B
Susan
Johansen
to
much
of
our
historic
legacy
is
thoughtlessly
thrown
away.
Historic
preservation
is
important.
David
Conde.
This
theater
has
a
lot
of
memories
from
my
youth,
rather
than
destroy
our
history
just
to
build
further
into
the
sky.
Let's
preserve
and
maintain
our
history,
David
Berg
we've
already
lost
far
too
many
historic
buildings
and
theaters,
such
as
the
Orpheum
in
Salt,
Lake
City.
It's
time
for
the
mayor
and
the
Salt
Lake
City
Council
to
start
taking
historic
preservation
seriously
and
make
it
a
priority.
B
It's
time
to
save
this
irreplaceable,
Salt,
Lake,
City
treasure,
Kirk,
Walton
I,
don't
want
to
see
another
landmark
destroyed,
Helen
Peterson.
This
is
a
very
important
building,
because
its
architecture
and
its
history
I
have
a
picture
of
my
mother
walking
by
it
in
the
1940s.
It's
very
sentimental
to
me,
Carol
McDonough,
preserving
architectural
heritage
is
something
that
cannot
be
delayed
time
once
gone.
There
is
no
redemption.
I
have
hundreds
more
and
I'd
like
to
share
the
signatures
with
you.
Thank
you.
D
You,
my
name,
is
Paul
Christensen,
I
love,
1831,
Connor,
Street
in
district
6
and
I
own
several
properties,
downtown
I'm,
here
to
speak
today
in
favor
of
the
Utah
theatre
being
redeveloped,
as
our
downtown
has
unfolded
over
the
past
few
years.
One
of
the
things
that's
been
missing
is
significant,
multifamily
properties
where
people
can
rent,
particularly
the
high-rise,
such
as
the
one
that's
being
proposed.
This
will
allow
people
to
live
downtown,
making
it
far
more
of
a
24/7
environment
than
what
we
have
right
now,
which
is
what
the
next
step
our
downtown
needs.
D
Particularly
important
is
the
way
that
this
project
covers
all
types
of
breeze
from
you
know
more
affordable
to
higher
end,
which
is
another
aspect
that
is
much
needed
in
our
downtown.
Let
me
just
speak
for
a
minute
about
the
Utah
theatre.
I
went
there
as
a
child.
If
memory
serves
me
right,
I
think
I
saw
Fantasia
there.
However,
I
take
comfort,
knowing
that
the
Capitol
Theatre
on
the
same
block
has
been
preserved.
D
Also,
when
I
look
at
the
economics
I
just
don't
see
how
that
makes
sense
for
our
city
government
to
be
spending
that
kind
of
money
on
a
rehabilitation
project
of
that,
so
in
closing,
I
hope
that
the
RDA
will
support
the
redevelopment
of
the
inner
block
where
the
Utah
theatre
is
right
now.
Thank
you
very
much.
E
That
was
almost
torn
down.
Also,
it's
really
invigorating
for
me
to
see
the
young
people
caring
about
this.
Also
there's
a
lot
of
space
downtown.
We
can
build
multi-family
housing,
a
block
down
the
street.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
the
Utah
theatre.
This
is
a
letter
that
my
friend
David
Mickey
Evans
who's,
the
director
and
writer
of
the
Sandlot
wrote
and
I'd
like
to
read
portions
of
this.
E
As
the
writer
director
of
the
Sandlot
movie,
which
I
was
fortunate
to
film
in
downtown
areas
of
Salt,
Lake
City
in
1992-
yes,
sorry
I,
know
I
couldn't
have
done
it
without
historical
spaces
and
locations
that
supported
my
vision
as
the
cast
and
I
have
come
back
to
celebrate
the
film.
In
its
original
occasions,
I
have
looked
forward
to
meeting
Salt
Lake
City
natives
and
passionate
local
film
lovers
that
love
their
city
and
the
unique
history
film
has
within
it.
E
Salt
Lake
has
a
special
place
in
film
history
in
large
part
because
of
the
historical
spaces
that
celebrate
the
past,
while
also
looking
to
the
future.
When
I
heard
the
former
Pantages
and
now
Utah
theater
might
be
torn
down
and
then
saw
the
photos
of
what
the
inside
of
the
theater
looks
like
I
was
stunned.
We
have
restored
and
saved
many
of
these
theaters
in
Los
Angeles
to
great
success,
and
they
create
unique
and
special
moments
for
audiences
and
performers.
E
When
I
found
out
the
Utah
theatre
would
be
the
last
standing
70
millimeter
screen
in
downtown
Salt
Lake
I
wondered
why
anyone
would
want
to
tear
down
such
a
space.
I'm
grateful
my
film,
the
Sandlot
has
maintained
and
grown
an
audience
over
the
years.
I
expect
the
cast
and
I
will
be
back
again
to
you.
Typers
screenings
thanks.
You.
D
Thank
you
for
hearing
me
today.
My
name
is
Pete
Ashdown.
My
company
is
X
mission.
Two
council
members
asked
me
in
the
last
meeting
to
show
public
support
for
preserving
the
theater.
We
have
done
that.
You
have
heard
from
us.
Nearly
3,600
people
have
signed
a
petition
in
three
weeks.
Many
of
us
are
here
today.
I
wanted
to
relate
some
of
the
facts,
I
found
in
the
last
month
and
a
half
in
doing
this.
The
Tacoma
Pantages,
which
has
a
larger
surrounding
building
than
what
you
toffee
etre,
has
was
restored.
With
seismic
upgrades.
D
They
have
earthquakes
in
Seattle
as
well.
For
twenty
four
point:
three
million
dollars,
the
minneapolis
Pantages.
Also
an
identical
theater
was
restored
for
eight
million
dollars.
I
think
the
sixty
million
dollar
figure
is
being
bandied
about,
is
inflated
to
former
high-level
County
officials,
express
their
disappointment
to
me
that
the
Utah
Film
and
Media
Center
at
the
Utah
theater
wasn't
brought
to
reality
due
to
Salt
Lake
City
Council
deciding
it
wasn't
restorative
enough.
Stan
panful
did
not
like
the
plan
that
was
presented.
D
The
county
was
ready
to
manage
the
facility
in
conjunction
with
the
nonprofit's
and
had
budget
to
do
so.
Mayor
Wilson
in
conversation
with
me
yesterday,
says
she
welcomes
pausing
this
process,
so
the
county
in
the
city
can
look
at
possibilities
for
rehabilitating
the
theater.
The
idea
that
the
lack
of
parking
for
a
downtown
theives
our
theater
is
a
reason
to
demolish
it
as
flabbergasting.
Either
we
embrace
mass
transit
to
downtown
or
we
don't
either
we
decide
that
attack
air
quality
head-on
or
we
accept
the
status
quo.
D
I
have
housed
my
business
downtown
for
26
years
by
choice.
The
seeds
of
X
mission
planted
has
brought
other
tech
businesses
downtown
I
do
not
want
to
see
downtown.
I
have
worked
for
without
any
city
support
turned
into
parking
garages
and
empty
luxury.
Condominiums.
A
major
major
philanthropic
donor
in
Salt
Lake
City
has
spoken
to
me,
favorably
about
working
to
restore
the
Utah
theater
if
Utah,
Film,
Center
and
preservation
Utah
are
on
board
with
it.
These
are
the
those
organizations
are
here
today
to
express
their
support
for
preservation.
Mayor
bus
caps.
D
F
F
The
city
has
changed
in
five
years:
mass
transit.
All
these
things
that
people
have
brought
up
behind
me
we're
not
the
same
city.
We
were
when
that
proposal
was
put
together
and
I
think
this
deserves
more
public
input.
We've
got,
we've
asked
for
none,
yes,
we
posted
post,
whatever
the
required
postings,
but
there
have
been
efforts
in
this
city
for
other
ventures
like
the
copshop,
where
we
it
was
shopped
around
at
the
community
councils.
Even
though
there
was
already
a
decision
made.
At
least
we
attempted
to
get
some
community
input
in
the
last
five
years.
F
G
Ok
hi,
my
name
is
Michael
I'm,
a
filmmaker
and
activist
here
in
Salt
Lake
about
a
block
away
as
a
filmmaker
I
want
to
speak
about
the
film
aspects
about
this
I.
Don't
know
if
the
RDA
notice
is
this
I'm
sure
you
guys
have
gotten
some
input
on
theatre,
but
if
restored,
this
would
be
one
of
the
greatest
cinema
screens
in
the
country
easily.
If
not
the
world
it's
101
years
old,
they
don't
make
theaters
like
this
anymore.
G
It's
2300
seats
may
would
be
a
to
tear
this
down
and
it's
something
the
Salt
Lake
and
Utah
wouldn't
recover
from
for
decades,
artistically
and
creatively.
There's
lots
of
talks
about
the
theater
not
being
profitable,
went
across
the
street.
The
echoes
cost
200
million
dollars,
which
is
almost
three
times
more
than
three
times
what
plants
of
the
Pantages
has
been
said
to
cost
I
think
this
is
crazy
when
in
2019
Sundance
brought
180
million
dollars
to
Utah.
So
it
would
be
a
huge
shame
to
not
save
this
theater
in
terms
of
the
artistic
legacy.
G
The
Utah
history
next
to
California
New
York
Utah's,
got
one
of
the
most
incredible
film
histories
here
with
Monument
Valley
John
for
directing
films
here
at
the
Sandlot
I'm
sure
all
you,
members
on
the
council
here,
have
a
favorite
film,
most
lucky.
A
lot
of
them
are
shine,
Utah
and
have
history
in
Utah.
So
it's
something
we
need
to
protect.
We
need
to
rebuild
this
theater,
and
not
only
for
the
history,
for
that
the
architecture
standpoint,
but
also
for
the
future
of
film
and
for
the
future
of
film
in
Utah.
G
C
C
This
is
very
out
of
my
comfort
zone,
but
I
love,
the
history
of
Utah
and
I
often
will
take
my
friends
downtown
and
we'll
take
a
tour
of
the
city
and
I'll
show
them
some
of
the
historic
points
we
always
stop
at
this
theater
and
I
know
for
a
fact
that
there
are
so
many
people
that
are
my
same
demographic,
my
same
age
that
are
interested
in
the
film
history
of
Utah.
There's
a
theater,
a
block
away,
formerly
known
as
the
Rialto
Theatre
that
just
got
the
green
light
to
be
remodeled
and
gutted.
C
H
Hello
good
afternoon,
my
name
is
David
Emmett
and
I
am
here
representing
preservation,
Utah
its
board
in
its
constituency,
and
this
is
a
constituency
that
has
reached
out
to
me
in
various
ways.
Over
the
past
several
weeks
made
their
opinion
loud
and
clear
about
the
Utah
theatre.
They
want
to
see
it
saved.
H
A
lot
of
them
asked
why
there
hasn't
been
the
public
process
in
regards
to
deciding
the
fate
of
the
Utah
theatre
and
I
tell
them
that
there
was
a
public
process,
but
in
place
last
year
it
involved
preservation,
Utah
the
RTA
and
also
downtown
rising,
and
we
were
going
to
start
a
survey
with
a
series
of
tours
hosted
by
preservation,
Utah
and
then
it
would
be
followed
by
this
survey,
which
would
last
several
weeks
that
would
pull
the
residents
of
Salt
Lake
and
ask
their
opinion
about
the
fate
of
the
theater.
This
effort
was
undermined.
H
The
rug
was
pulled
out
from
underneath
it
by
the
RDA.
A
few
weeks
before
the
survey
was
set
to
launch
I
would
like
the
our
date,
are
the
RDA
to
explain
why
that
occurred.
Even
in
this
meeting.
The
second
point,
I
want
to
make
I'm
going
to
read
directly
from
a
letter
that
I'll
send
you
in
the
next
few
days.
H
In
the
RDA
board
meetings
held
over
the
last
several
months,
it
has
been
suggested
that
the
Utah's
theaters
character,
defining
features,
fragments
of
decorative
plaster
work
or
stained
glass
will
be
removed
from
the
theatre
and
incorporated
into
the
new
Main
Street
skyscraper.
The
value
of
this
folio
will
be
factored
into
the
amount
that
Heinz
and
LaSalle
will
pay,
or
rather
not
pay
to
gain
ownership
of
the
Utah
theatre
site.
H
Preservation
Utah
believes
that
all
of
the
historic
and
much
of
the
aesthetic
value
of
a
buildings
ornamentation
is
destroyed
once
it
is
removed
from
its
original
context,
removing
fragments
of
the
Utah
theatre
and
incorporating
these
same
fragments
into
a
note
building.
Well,
not,
in
our
opinion,
serve
to
honor
the
Utah
theaters
history.
We
felt
that
incorporating
these
fragments
into
a
new
building
well
actually
be
detrimental
to
the
new
building,
as
it
will
destroy
the
the
shock
of
the
new
night
you
have
promised
the
new
building
will
deliver
to
Salt
Lake.
Thank
you.
I
I
work
on
architecture,
I
work
in
the
Walker
Center
I
helped
the
current
owners
of
that
building,
get
it
on
the
National,
Register
and
and
and
add
the
signage
tower
back
at
the
top
I
I,
so
I'm
familiar
with
the
theater.
For
that
reason,
in
many
others,
having
worked
in
architecture
I've
been
on
both
sides
of
the
table.
I've
sat
in
the
developers,
side
and
they've
sat
on
we'll,
say
the
advocates
side
for
losing
something
historic.
I
So
as
I
read
through
all
the
the
RDA
memos
and
everything
from
the
developers,
I
keep
trying
to
keep
an
open
mind
to
to
the
arguments
to
be
an
optimist
and
a
realist
at
the
same
time.
But
I
keep
feeling
like
the
process
has
been
driven
by
a
priority
list,
with
the
theater
at
the
bottom
or
somewhere
lower
in
that
list
and
with
all
of
the
other
priorities
at
the
top,
which
makes
perfect
sense
right
that
that
makes
sense
if
you're
a
developer.
I
If
this
was
a
private
piece
of
land,
there
would
be
no
question
that
was
you
know
they
would
make
the
decisions
based
on
those
facts
and
move
forward,
but
I
believe
that
theater
was
bought
with
the
intent
of
the
city
and
with
the
support
of
the
residents
to
save
the
theater
and
I.
Think
there's
there's
still
so
many
ways
to
to
find
a
way
to
save
it.
I
That
will
benefit
the
city
and
even
possible
ways
to
also
benefit
Heinz
and
their
adjacent
property
and
to
benefit
LaSalle,
and
there
I
think
desire
to
have
a
restaurant
in
this
new
I.
Just
think
it
just
feels
to
me,
like
the
process
has
been
driven
by
a
narrative
that
is
asking
questions
about
why
we
can't
do
this.
What's
another
reason
we
can't
versus
reasons
of
how
are
we
going
to
find
the
way
we
need
to
make
sure
everybody's
had
their
input.
I
J
J
Our
da.
If
we
read
the
actual
statement
here,
says
they
work
to
revitalize
neighborhoods
commercial
districts.
That
experience
disinvestment
granary
is
a
very
good
proponent
of
this.
We
did
a
mural
engagement
with
the
city,
they
paid
us
150
thousand
dollars
and
we
got
10
murals,
maybe
not
because
of
that,
but
industry
has
came
up
from
Denver
and
bought
13
blocks.
J
J
To
add
one
more
would
be
a
neat
looking
skyline,
but
it
doesn't
mean
that
we
don't
have
the
money
to
preserve
history
and
arts.
12%
of
the
employment
of
Utah
comes
from
arts
culture,
recreation.
We
lost
Outdoor,
Retailer
retailers
that
was
40
million
dollars.
We
lost,
we
assumed
the
sundance
may
stay
here.
Maybe
Sundance
does
not
stay
here.
We
thought
outdoor
retails
would
stay
here.
We
lost
that
and
even
though
our
recreation
rings
in
1
billion
dollars,
we
lost
it
for
lobbyist
reasons.
And
finally,
this
is
our
money.
This
is
tax
dollars.
J
You
guys
are
the
the
dolars
of
this
fund,
but
the
Zap
program,
which
the
citizens
unanimously
passed
every
single
year
goes
to
zoos
are
its
parts
and
arts.
We
care
about
art,
it
is
revitalizing
our
city
and
as
we
grow,
we
also
need
to
keep
reservation
at
the
head
top
of
dynast.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
K
When
I
was
a
little
girl
growing
up
in
Minnetonka
County
Idaho,
my
mother
would
tell
stories
of
growing
up
in
Salt
Lake
and
how
on
Saturday
she
would
go
to
the
Pantages
vaudeville
and
see
Bob,
Hope
and
Amos,
and
Andy
and
Babe
Ruth
and
Sammy
Davis
and
and
then
afterwards,
there'd
be
a
spelling
bee
and
then
she
would
say
and
on
either
side
of
the
stage
there
were
fire
hose
holders.
That
said,
Pantages
Theater
and
she
always
put
her
arm
in
the
arch
of
Pantages
Theater.
K
When
they
closed
the
Utah
Theatre,
my
husband
and
I
went
down
and
the
manager
was
kind
enough
to
take
us
on
a
tour
of
the
building
and
there
in
the
basement
were
four
fire
hose
holders.
That
said,
Pantages
Theatre
I
told
him
the
story
and
he
said
well,
do
you
want
to
buy
him
and
I
said
yeah
I
want
to
buy
him.
He
said
well,
I
need
to
keep
one,
so
I
have
three
of
those
that
have
spent
the
last
30
years.
K
In
my
basement,
the
lamp
came
from
the
hall
that
went
down
to
the
lobby
from
the
street.
My
husband's
aunt
said
that
when
they
closed
the
Pantages
and
made
it
into
the
Orpheum,
actually
I
made
it
into
the
Utah
theatre.
They
didn't
want
a
lot
of
this
stuff
and
they
had
all
of
the
employees
come
down
and
take
what
they
wanted
and
she
had
taken
this
lamp
home
and
also
had
discovered.
K
There
were
miles
of
sheeting
that
had
been
used
as
backdrops
and
she
took
it
home
and
cut
it
up
and
hemmed
it
and
said
she
never
had
to
buy
sheets
again.
So
my
kids
I
had
no
idea.
They
had
grown
up
looking
at
these
things
and
developing
a
love
for
them
and
the
stories,
and
if
the
Utah
theatre
is
restored,
I
promise
I
will
donate
the
fire
hose
holders
back
to
put
on
either
side
of
the
stage
in
our
home.
It
was
always
the
Pantages
Theatre,
it
was
never
the
Utah.
K
K
A
After
a
Karen
excuse
me,
I
have
poly
heart
and
just
before
you
start
Karen
might
after
poly,
I
have
Don
Borchert
and
that's
the
last
three
cards
I
have.
So,
if
there's
anyone
else
out
there,
that
wants
to
speak
just
raise
your
hand
or
to
go,
fill
out
a
card
and
we'll
get
to
you,
okay,
oh,
we
have
a
couple
more
over
here,
never
mind
three
more
three.
More
is
all
you
Karen.
F
I
was
actually
fortunate
to
be
awarded
the
2013
mayor's
visual
artists
award,
and
that
came
to
me
chiefly
for
my
series
celebrating
downtown
Salt
Lake
City
landmarks,
including
the
Capitol
Theatre,
the
crane
building
the
city-county
here,
Abravanel,
Rose,
Wagner
and
other
downtown
buildings.
I
have
loved
celebrating
our
city
and
I
have
to
relay
to
you
that
in
openings
and
any
any
interaction
I've
had
with
the
public
about
these
paintings,
they
always
approach
me
and
say:
oh
I
have
so
many
wonderful
memories
of
bringing
my
family
to
the
Capitol
Theater.
We
love
the
lobby.
F
F
Everyone
says
it's
cold,
like
an
airport
and
so
I
am
concerned
that
you
know
as
someone
very
interested
in
local
theaters.
For
some
reason.
I
totally
missed
this
Utah
theater
I
have
never
had
the
opportunity
to
tour,
it
I'm
afraid
the
public,
the
public
process,
has
not
existed
or
has
been
under
the
radar
and
I
implore,
the
board,
the
mayor
and
the
City
Council
to
pause
the
process
and
call
for
a
public
public
feedback.
L
Hello,
my
name
is
Polly
Hart.
Most
of
you
know
me
and
I
had
the
honor
of
I
think
being
the
longest-serving
member
of
the
RAC,
the
RDA
Advisory
Committee
I
served
10
years
on
it.
Redevelopment
agencies
exist
to
foster
redevelopment
when
the
market
would
not
otherwise
bear
it.
Obviously
you
know
that,
because
you're
here
redevelopment
includes
restoring
buildings
that
have
unique
qualities
that
are
valued
and
not
replaceable,
meaning
rdas
exists
in
part
to
save
historic
properties
that
may
not
offer
the
highest
dollar
return
but
offer
an
asset
that
is
priceless.
L
You
cannot
put
a
price
on
this
place
and
it
is
a
disservice
to
our
tourism
and
our
downtown
economy
to
lose
a
treasure
that
we
will
never
regain.
Please
remember
that
our
DA's
do
not
exist.
Only
to
foster
new
construction
and
earning
the
almighty
dollar
is
not
always
the
highest
and
best
use.
As
a
closing
statement,
I
just
want
to
ask
you
to
remember
what
the
original
Penn
Station
in
New
York
looked
like.
You
will
find
it
in
every
single
art
history
book,
an
architectural
history
book
of
American
architecture.
L
E
Hi,
my
name
is
Don
Porter
and
I
work
in
film
festivals
around
the
country,
so
I
worked
in
many
many
many
theaters
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
people
connect
to
theaters
with
history
and
character.
The
most
famous
cinema
in
this
country
is
Chinese
Grauman
theater,
that
is
a
beautiful
cinema
palace
people
do
not
connect
to
stare
cinema
flexes.
It
is
not
a
place
that
people
can
come
and
really
have
that
beautiful
cinema.
E
M
Hi
I'm
Kimber,
thank
you
for
listening
to
me
today.
Taking
the
time
I
have
grown
up
in
Utah,
live
in
sugarhouse
and
I.
Remember,
coming
up
to
Salt
Lake
and
going
to
events
here
and
experiencing
the
beautiful
architecture
that
we
have
here
in
the
buildings
that
make
those
events
that
much
more
of
an
event.
And
you
almost
remember
the
building
that
you
were
in
the
experience
when
you
walk
in
more
than
sometimes
what
you
went
there
for
since
then.
M
I've
been
inspired
to
go
into
design
and
now
I'm,
an
interior
designer
and
I
work
on
residential
and
commercial
buildings
in
and
around
Salt
Lake,
so
I'm
part
of
the
redevelopment
and
the
growth
of
Utah
and
I'm.
Proud
of
that.
But
I
think
that
with
that
comes
the
responsibility
to
take
pause
and
to
look
at
the
buildings
that
we
do
have
and
try
to
preserve
them.
I've
spoken
to
department,
heads
in
architecture
and
design
departments
at
the
U
of
U.
M
This
Utah
State
LDS,
Business,
College,
BYU
and
Weber
State
all
have
expressed
their
desire
to
keep
the
theater
because
it
is
a
huge
asset
to
learning
about
architecture
and
about
design
about
history
and
it,
and
it
really
matters
to
all
the
hundreds
of
students
that
they
see
come,
come
and
go
through
their
doors.
I.
M
Would
just
hope
that
we
take
pause
here
and
try
to
save
the
theater
and,
like
others,
that
have
talked
before
me,
looking
at
the
ways
that
we
can
save
it
and
not
more
reasons
why
we
can't
also
another
thing
to
echo
about
the
about
Penn
Station.
It
was
the
building
that
died
to
save
the
rest
for
New
York
and
from
there
they
had
a
act
that
went
into
preserving
all
of
their
other
buildings
that
actually
saved
Grand
Central.
Thank
you.
D
My
name
is
jeff
Thompson
I'm,
a
former
archivist
at
20th
Century
Fox
in
Los
Angeles,
and
a
film
historian.
The
Utah
theatre
is
one
of
the
three
most
important
film
venues
in
Salt
Lake
during
the
20th
century.
Salt
Lake
City
is
very
committed
to
the
Arts,
with
Abravanel
Hall
ballet
West
Opera,
supporting
the
Tabernacle
Choir
an
orchestra.
Why
aren't
we
committed
to
film?
Why
don't
we
have
a
warrant
world-class
film
venue,
since
we're
known
as
the
the
location
of
the
top
film
festival
in
the
world
renovated
theaters
are
very
economically
feasible
and
very
profitable.
D
Most
importantly,
this
theater
was
bought
with
public
money
and
with
the
promise
that
it
would
be
renovated.
As
a
film
venue,
it
seems
like
all
the
dealings
and
decisions
have
been
behind
closed
doors
and
I
think
the
public
should
be
in
on
the
decision
of
what
happens
with
this
property.
Very
few
people
are
benefited
by
a
high-rise,
condo
and
an
expensive
restaurant.
Even
if
there
are
a
dozen
low-income
rental
units,
there
are
plenty
of
empty
lots
in
this
city
that
could
be
taken
by
eminent
domain.
D
H
Council
members,
thanks
for
listening
to
me,
I'm
Brent,
Barnett,
I,
love,
theaters,
I,
love
downtown's.
This
space
is
a
fantastic
space.
The
interior
is
out
of
this
world.
My
grandmother
went
to
this
theater
as
a
child
in
the
20s
she
played
on
the
floor,
her
parents
watched
vaudeville,
but
she
did
not
understand.
Sometimes
they
had
to
cover
her
ears.
N
H
Cost
of
renovation
of
this
facility
has
been
completely
misstated.
It
is
a
farce
if
this
is
not
better
analyzed,
but
mostly
this
decision
is
about
vision.
This
is
the
vision
of
this
city,
not
today,
but
in
10
to
20
years
we
have
a
few
theaters,
not
nearly
as
many
as
we
once
had.
We
are
growing.
We
are
growing.
Where
is
the
vision?
Main
Street
needs
great
public
spaces.
We
need
more
than
a
collection
of
theaters.
We
need
a
theater
district,
all
at
Times
Square.
So
this
is
not
about
a
single
theater.
H
A
E
Thank
you
very
listen
to
me
of
first
off
I'm
from
another
state
I.
Only
27
and
I.
Look
at
this
as
a
way
to
preserve
history
and
what
it
can
become
as
a
theatre
itself.
We
can
use
it
for
film
premieres
for
new
films.
We
can
actually
become
a
spot
for
big
theatres.
A
lot
of
celebrities
go
to
these
theaters
for
their
film
premieres.
Why
not
Salt
Lake,
also
on
weekends?
E
Why
don't
we
have
like
a
flashback
event
like
where
you
can
do
like
a
classic
film
from
the
days
when
the
man
that
was
just
performing
was
talking
about?
We
also
have
live
acts.
We
can
do
so
much
with
this
theater,
it's
beautiful
inside
it's
designed
for
both
live-action
and
film.
Why
not
do
it?
We
should
be
serving
this
theater,
not
destroying
it,
and
if
we
do,
I
can
tell
you
right
now.
You're
gonna
repeat
well,
stay
I
left
and
they
are
suffering
because
they
don't
have
a
theater
district.
A
I
Name
is
David
Berg,
one
of
my
first
earliest
memories
is
coming
to
the
being
brought
to
the
City
County
Building,
the
abandoned
city
county
building
that
was
fenced
off
and
empty,
and
there
was
still
talk
of
knocking
it
down.
The
arguments
were
the
same
to
knock
down
this
very
building
we're
in
by
those
who
stood
to
profit
financially,
then,
as
the
arguments
by
those
who
stand
to
make
a
profit
off
the
destruction
of
this
irreplaceable
jewel
today
and
I,
don't
think
you'll
find
anyone
these
days.
I
Less
than
the
worth
of
the
Tiffany
chandelier
and
marble
flooring
inside
the
theater
alone,
the
RDAs
City
Council
needs
to
reject
the
proposed
sale
immediately
on
the
basis
of
the
corporate
handout,
giveaway
low
price.
That
is,
and
then
open
the
process
and
restoration
to
the
public.
Something
that's
not
been
done.
Thus
far,
luxury
condos
can
be
built
elsewhere
downtown,
and
we
only
have
this
one
last
historic
theater
on
our
Main
Street.
Please
honor
your
commitment
to
the
public
and
save
the
jewel
of
Main
Street.
I
B
B
The
city
bought
it
with
the
intention
of
restoring
it.
I
would
have
restored
it.
It
would
not
be
in
the
shape
that
it
is
in
today
if
I
had
purchased
it
back
then,
but
I
thought
at
the
time
that
Salt
Lake
City
being
the
city
that
it
is
having
the
Heritage
that
it
has
having
restored
this
building,
that
they
would
do
the
same
with
that
building.
I
am
disappointed
that
this
discussion
is
still
going
on
ten
years
later.
B
B
A
C
Hi,
my
name
is
Heather
Armstrong
and
I
did
not
come
with
any
prepared
statement.
I'm
a
local
author
and
I
am
the
original
mommy
blogger.
So
you
can
take
me
very
seriously.
I
am
going
to
admit
my
ignorance
that
I
had
no
idea
that
there
was
such
a
thing
as
a
Utah,
theatre
and
I
am
appalled
that
this
is
going
forward
when
I
know
that
there
are
so
many
more
like
me
in
this
city
who
have
no
idea
that
this
exists.
C
I've
never
even
been
inside
to
see
the
treasure
that
it
is,
and
this
has
gone
on
in
secrecy
and
the
fact
that
we
would
be
losing
such
an
amazing
jewel
of
this
city,
a
treasure
and
yet
so
many
of
us
don't
even
know
it's
like
going
to
the
Louvre
and
taking
a
Michelangelo.
It
will
off
the
wall
and
knocking
a
hole
in
the
wall
and
going
look
at
the
beautiful
hole
that
we
made
you're,
leaving
a
hole
in
this
city.
Please
open
this
up
for
public
the
public
to
see.
A
Okay,
if
there
is
nothing
else,
then
with
this
will
conclude
our
general
comment
period.
I
want
to
thank
everyone
for
your
comments
and
particularly,
as
always,
I
want
to
thank
everyone
for
being
respectful
with
one
another,
as
we
were
able
to
listen
to
your
comments.
If
you
have
further
comments
or
if
there
were
people
who
did
not
feel
comfortable
getting
up
and
speaking
in
front
of
us,
please
feel
free
to
reach
out.
You
can
contact
any
one
of
us.
A
You
can
email
our
comments,
email
or
simply
email,
one
of
us
or
contact
any
any
of
us
directly.
So
thank
you
again
and
we
are
going
to
move
on
to
the
next
item
of
our
agenda
with
that.
Our
next
agenda
item
is
our
budget
amendment
number
one
and
at
the
table,
I
have
mr.
Danny
walls
and
Ben
and
Mary
Beth.
O
There
is
a
draft
motion
sheet
for
board
members
to
consider
in
the
packet.
The
the
motion
sheet
includes
a
contingent
appropriation
related
to
the
750
thousand
dollar
additional
funding
for
a
new
track
station
at
650,
South,
Main
Street,
the
council,
the
board
already
appropriated
six
hundred
and
thirty
nine
thousand
dollars
for
this
back
in
April.
This
would
be
an
additional
seven
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars.
It
would
not
fully
fund
the
project,
but
it
would
be
most
of
the
funding.
O
Adjacent
property
owners
are
expected
to
contribute
some
of
that
additional
funding
to
get
to
the
two
million.
The
funding
contingency
and
I'll
read
it
for
those
that
don't
have
it
in
front
of
you.
It
reads:
the
funding
is
contingent
upon
reporting,
finalized
designs
and
cost
estimates
to
the
board.
O
The
300,
the
639
thousand
dollars
the
board
appropriated
in
April,
is
sufficient
to
continue
the
design
of
the
station,
so
none
of
these
contingencies
would
slow
down
the
project.
It
would
simply
add
a
step
for
more
information
to
come
back
to
the
board,
as
well
as
confirming
the
funding
plan.
One
other
change.
Since
the
last
briefing
on
this
budget
amendment,
the
administration
is
requesting
an
additional
$500,000
from
the
revolving
loan
fund
fund
balance
be
included,
and
this
is
related
to
the
loan
for
the
Jefferson,
which
is
on
the
agenda
later
today.
A
And
I'm
gonna
interrupt
real,
quick
and
make
sure
I
get
this
right,
the
gen
so
board
members.
We
actually
scheduled
the
hearing
on
the
public
hearing
for
this
budget
amendment.
We
noticed
it
for
2:00
p.m.
and,
as
you
can
see,
it's
only
1:00
p.m.
because
we
started
early
because
of
the
council
agenda.
A
So
we're
going
to
talk
about
this
not
take
action
yet
we're
going
to
recess
as
an
RDA
board
at
some
point
convene
as
the
Selig
as
the
City
Council
board
and
then
reconvene
as
the
RDA
board
for
the
public
hearing
after
2
o'clock,
so
that
we
stay
on
all
of
our
notices,
so
just
an
FYI.
This
is
simply
the
briefing
we
will
take
action
or
likely
take
action
after
the
public
hearing
later
this
afternoon,
did
I
get
all
that
right.
O
A
Budget
amendment
great
we'll
go
to
the
next
item
which
we're
actually
switching
up
the
agenda
a
little
bit
because
I
don't
know
that
there's
been
an
RDA
meeting
that
I
haven't
switched
up
the
agenda
a
little
bit.
It's
a!
Why
stop
now
we're
gonna
move
to
the
Utah
theater
redevelopment
follow
up
so
we
have
Ben
and
Danny
and
Tammy
at
the
table.
Please.
A
P
O
A
quick,
intro
there's
a
summary
of
the
required
public
benefits
on
the
first
page
of
the
staff
report.
These
are
the
low
income
apartments
with
a
50
year,
affordability,
term,
the
mid-block,
walkway
and
reuse
of
historic
elements.
There
are
also
four
policy
questions
for
the
board
to
consider
about
which
public
benefits
are
required
versus
optional,
and
if
this
is
supported
by
the
board
or
if
you'd
prefer,
switching
some
there's
also
a
question
about
the
width
and
the
length
of
the
walkway.
O
What
additional
support
could
look
like
for
the
project
and
what
public
benefits
the
board
would
prioritize
for
any
additional
support
from
the
RDA
or
the
city,
and
then
there's
also
a
question
about
documenting
the
historic
features
and
hiring
an
outside
consultant,
potentially
an
item
that
could
be
included
in
the
next
budget
amendment
for
the
RDA.
If
the
board
is
interested,
the
RDA
staff
has
a
presentation
and
then
there
will
be
time
for
questions
afterwards.
Thank.
P
Good
afternoon,
madam
chair
members
of
the
board,
thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity
to
present
this
today.
The
item
before
you
today
is
a
discussion
on
the
proposed
resolution
to
determine
the
purchase
price
for
the
property
that
is,
a
Utah
theater
in
consideration
for
potential
write-down
in
light
of
the
required
public
benefits
that
have
been
included
in
the
purchase
and
sale
agreement
for
the
property
disposition
that
has
been
executed
by
excuse
me
by
the
administration.
P
The
agreement
provides
the
ability
for
the
developer
to
request
the
write
down
from
the
board
to
take
into
consideration
the
restrictive
easements
that
will
be
recorded
against
the
property
that
been
referred
to.
Our
purpose
here
today
is
to
provide
information
on
the
project
once
again
to
discuss
the
costs
related
to
those
public
benefits,
as
well
as
to
follow
up
on
some
of
the
previous
conversations
and
discussions
that
have
happened
at
the
two
board
meetings.
Q
Thanks
Danny,
so
I
will
provide
a
brief
background
on
the
project
and
a
kind
of
a
status
update
as
to
where
we're
at
today.
So
back
in
2010,
it
was
January
of
2010,
actually
that
the
RTA
acquired
the
property
and
between
2010
and
about
2016.
We
did
a
lot
of
research
on
the
property
we
held
an
open
house
on
site.
There
was
the
Film
Center
study.
We
did
other
internal
studies,
calculating
seismic
cost
structural
costs.
Q
Looking
at
various
reuse
plans
on
the
property
and
in
2015
it
was
actually
late,
2015
that
RDA
at
that
point
decided
to
start
negotiating
with
adjacent
property
owners,
because
it
came
to
light
that
there
were
some
significant
redevelop
redevelopment
barriers
to
the
site.
So
in
2015
we
started
to
engage
LaSalle
and
Hinds,
which
are
the
adjacent
property
owners.
I
think
we
all
know
the
the
site
is
a
prominent
location
on
Main
Street,
it's
about
0.89
acres
and
in
May
of
this
year
we
had
an
appraisal
done
and
it
appraised
at
4
million.
Q
Seventy
thousand
dollars
here
is
a
map
of
the
site
with
adjacent
property
owners
that
the
RDA
is
exclusively
negotiating
with.
So
the
Kern's
building
is
owned
partially
by
Heinz
and
160
main
buy
LaSalle,
so
just
a
brief
overview
of
the
project.
What
is
being
proposed
on
the
site
is
a
mixed-use
tower,
with
publicly
accessible
open
space
public
art
about
300
residential
units,
structured
parking
that
actually
might
be
shared
with
the
Kearns
building
commercial
space
main
street
activation.
Q
So
the
way
the
current
proposed
project
is
structured.
There
are
three
public
benefits
that
are
tied
to
the
proposed
land
write
down
that
would
be
affordable
housing,
so
a
minimum
of
10%
of
the
units
would
be
affordable
to
households
earning
between
60
and
80
percent,
ami
a
mid
block
walkway
to
the
north
of
the
site,
providing
pedestrian
amenities
in
connection
to
the
interior
of
the
block
and
then
historic
repurposing
of
theater
elements
to
pay
homage
to
the
former
use
of
the
site.
Q
We
have
also
negotiated
with
the
adjacent
property
owners
additional
optional
public
benefits
that
would
be
contingent
on
further
discussions,
further
analysis
by
the
adjacent
property
owners
and
then
additional
RDA
incentives
and
those
three
optional
benefits
are
additional
for
the
affordable
housing
above
and
beyond
the
10%
that
would
be
required.
Nonprofit
office
space
at
the
first
floor
and
second
floor
of
the
project
is
currently
contemplated
as
retail
in
office
and
so
potentially
setting
aside
some
of
the
space
for
a
nonprofit
organization
and
then
additional
publicly
accessible,
open
space
in
addition
to
the
mid-block.
Q
So
it
would
be
a
park
space
atop
of
the
parking
garage
so
looking
close
closely
at
the
park
space
in
determining
what
level
of
public
access
and
improvements
would
be
incorporated
into
that
park,
space.
Here's
a
rendering
of
the
open
spaces
as
it's
currently
contemplated,
and
we
have
also
done
an
analysis
of
what
the
three
required
benefits.
What
the
costs
associated
with
those
public
benefits
would
be,
and
the
total
cost
associated
is
between
five
point.
Seven
and
seven.
H
Q
Sorry
so
the
affordable
housing
is
coming
in
at
about
four
million
dollars
for
the
ten
percent
of
the
affordable
units.
The
mid-block
walkway,
depending
on
the
final
size
and
configuration,
is
estimated
to
be
between
575,000
and
1.8
million,
and
then
we
have
negotiated
with
adjacent
property
owners
to
allocate
million
to
a
million
dollars
for
historic,
repurposing
and
incorporation
of
those
elements
into
the
new
project.
Q
So
next
steps,
if
the
board
approves
the
land
write
down,
it
will
give
the
adjacent
property
owners
the
assurance
to
move
forward
with
the
next
steps
in
the
development
process,
really
finalizing
the
plan
and
configuration
and
really
looking
at
the
optional
public
benefits
and
working
with
the
RDA
to
determine
whether
additional
RDA
participation
is
needed
to
implement
those
additional
public
benefits.
And
then,
as
Danny
spoke
about,
we
would
incorporate
a
design
review
process,
restricted,
government
covenants
and
a
mid
block.
Q
Walkway
easement
before
the
property
is
sold
to
make
sure
that
those
public
benefits
are
indeed
implemented,
and
then
we
do
have
some
follow-up
information
based
on
previous
discussions
with
the
board.
I
think
it
was
the
last
meeting.
The
question
of
historic
tax
credits
came
up.
And/Or,
whether
or
not
that
the
theater
was
eligible
for
historic
tax
credits
and
in
one
clarifying
point
in
2017
federal
tax
reform
removed
the
10%
historic
tax
credit
option.
Q
A
Q
A
You
I
would
we
had
time
I'm.
Sorry,
we
had
time
for
public
comment
and
everyone
was
very
respectful
during
comments.
I
would
ask
that
we
continue
be
respectful
to
the
people
presenting
at
this
time,
I'm
happy
to
talk
with
people
afterwards
regarding
that
and
feelings
on
that,
but
I'd
ask
that
would
be
respectful
of
people
giving
a
presentation
so.
Q
That
was
the
information
that
the
RDA
was
provided
that
we
had
been
working
off
of,
so
there
are
two
ways
that
a
property
can
be
eligible
for
tax
credits
and
that
is
being
listed
on
the
National,
Register
or
being
included
in
a
national
historic
district.
So
the
next
slide
is
a
map
of
where
our
historic
districts
are.
So,
in
speaking,
with
preservation
experts.
Q
One
opportunity
to
have
the
property
eligible
for
tax
credits
would
be
to
expand
one
of
the
historic
districts
neighboring
historic
districts,
but
the
historic
district
would
have
to
the
theater
would
have
to
uphold
the
intent
of
the
historic
district.
So,
for
example,
you
couldn't
really
expand
the
warehouse
district
because
it
would
have
to
be
a
warehouse
to
qualify
as
a
contributing
property,
but
there
are
potentially
other
districts
that
could
be
expanded
and
then
another
opportunity
where
the
property
could
be
eligible
for
tax
credits
were
if
a
rehabilitation
was
fully
funded
upfront,
a
retroactive
Lee.
Q
Q
Q
Sorry,
I'm
scrolling
I,
don't
know
what's
wrong
with
us:
okay,
bonding
capacity,
we
also
looked
into
bonding
capacity,
which
is
a
question
that
came
up
in
the
last
meeting,
and
it
was
in
November
of
2017
that
the
RDAs
financial
advisors
looked
at
bonding
capacity
of
each
project
area
that
the
RDA
has
and
within
the
CBD.
There's
about
3.5
million
dollars
of
available
tax,
increment
funds
to
potentially
be
available
for
debt
service,
and
that
would
equate
to
about
a
forty
five
million
dollar
bond.
Q
So
that
is
a
potential
that
could
be
used
for
restoration
of
the
theater,
but
that
would
take
essentially
all
of
the
remaining
tax
increments
through
the
sunsetting
of
the
CBD,
which
is
in
2040,
and
then
we
also
looked
at
kind
of
an
affordable
housing
comparison
looking
at
the
incentive
that
is
proposed
for
the
utah
theater
project
in
comparison
to
other,
affordable
housing
projects
that
the
RDA
has
and
the
city
has
put
funds
into
recently.
So
this
is
just
a
sampling
and
the
per-unit
subsidy.
Q
If
you
will,
for
these,
various
projects
ranges
in
size
from
5,000
per
unit
to
upwards
of
almost
90,000,
which
is
what
the
RDA
incentivized
paper-box
lofts
for.
But
it's
important
to
remember
that
most
of
the
projects
at
the
RDA
or
the
city
puts
affordable
housing
dollars
in
there
are
they're
also
receiving
low-income
housing,
tax
credits
and
other
sources
of
public
money
such
as
Olli
and
Walker,
housing,
loan
fund
and
other
sources,
but
with
paper-box
and
with
the
proposed
utah
theater
right
down.
This
would
be
essentially
the
only
source
of
affordable
housing
subsidy.
Q
So
that's
why
the
per-unit
dollar
amount
is
higher
on
those
two.
There
is
additional
information
that
the
board
did
enquire
about
in
your
packet
on
new
market
tax
credits
and
other
potential
sources
of
funding.
But
I
think
these
were
the
ones
that
kind
of
bubble
to
the
top.
So
we'd
be
happy
to
answer
or
any
questions
that
you
may
have
board
members.
R
M
R
Was
and
when
we
got
small
group
meetings,
we
talked
about
specifically
with
councilmember
Wharton
in
there
and
councilmember
Mendenhall
about
open
space,
meaning
a
park
and
that
it's
not
an
option
anymore.
So
would
you
would
you
explain
to
us,
in
the
public
sure
how
the
mayor
or
the
executive
director
decided
on
what
required
optional.
P
P
Those
public
benefits
would
be
in
lieu
of
the
theater
and
from
there
we
broke
it
down
to
what
were
the
top
three,
which
became
the
required
benefits,
as
well
as
the
ones
that
were
either
additional
or
enhancements
to
those
required
benefits,
and
so
the
required
ones
being
the
affordable
housing.
The
mid-block
walkway,
which
is
something
that
in
most
other
areas
within
the
city,
is
mandated
within
the
master
plan,
as
well
as
the
concept
of
preserving
some
of
the
elements
and
making
sure
those
are
provided
for
and
restored
within
the
next.
P
Those
we
felt
were
absolutely
required,
something
that
we
want
to
see
out
of
this
project.
Then
there
were
the
optional
benefits
of
either
expanding
the
amount
of
affordable
housing
or
expanding
the
open
space,
as
well
as
the
concept
of
potentially
having
use
within
the
project
that
either
could
provide
a
public
benefit
or
something
that
we
would
like
to
see
downtown
as
an
activity.
P
So
that
is
why
we
put
that
as
an
optional
element.
We
fully
anticipate
that
and
and
assume
that
the
developer
is
going
to
provide
that
open
space,
and
the
question
before
us
is
simply
to
what
extent
is
that
designed
activated
and
maintained,
and
that
is
why
that
one
fell
into
an
optional.
So
the
developer
understands
from
the
conversations
both
with
us
and
the
administration
and
council
members
that
this
council
wants
to
see
open
space
in
the
project
and
we've
just
certainly
said
that
that'll
be
an
ongoing
discussion
and
negotiation
of
what
that
looks.
Like
I'm.
R
Just
not
comfortable,
like
I've,
saw
the
agreement.
I
said
that
it's
not
written
there
and
so
I'm,
just
not
comfortable
with
that
know
being
there
as
as
downtown
needs
a
new
park,
we're
not,
we
don't
have
the
funds
for
a
new
park,
so
this
would
have
been
a
good
opportunity,
and
on
top
of
this
one
had
another
question:
is
there
a
right
of
reverter
in
this
agreement,
meaning
that,
if
there's
benefits
so-called
benefits
don't
happen,
then
we
get
the
property
back.
P
P
That
is
where
we
would
have
that
right
of
reverter,
to
the
extent
that
either
the
agency
would
always
have
the
right
to
step
in
and
take
over
the
project
and
or
we
would
have
the
first
opportunity
to
buy
the
property
back
if
it
went
into
foreclosure
and
that's
usually
just
a
function
of
the
negotiation
between
the
agency,
the
developer
and
usually
their
lender
in
terms
of
what
everyone's
comfortable
with.
But
that
is
something
that
we
also
have
in
our
State
Street
project
that
we
typically
just
build
into
that
development
agreement.
Last.
R
P
So,
to
the
extent
that
this
would
be
just
a
straight-up
land
disposition
with
no
consideration
for
a
write
down,
then
the
mayor
has
full
authority
to
do
that
under
that
policy.
The
fact
that,
as
part
of
doing
that,
the
mayor
has
wanted
to
include
additional
public
benefits
and
understanding
that
the
impact
of
those
benefits
on
the
cost
of
the
project
is
more
than
what
is
10%
of
the
land
value
according
to
RDA
policy.
That
then
kicks
it
to
a
decision
by
the
RDA
board.
P
So
if
those
restrictive
elements
were
not
on
the
property
and
if
we
were
selling
this
property
just
for
straight-up
market
value,
then
the
mayor
has
the
full
authority
to
do
that
without
that
ever
needing
to
come
back
to
the
board.
We
structured
this
in
a
way
such
that
we
knew
that
in
order
to
sell
the
property,
we
wanted
to
get
additional
public
benefits
out
of
it.
P
So
we
anticipated
from
the
beginning
that
those
benefits
would
have
an
impact
on
the
budget
of
more
than
10%
or
four
million
dollars,
and
so
we
anticipated
that
we
would
need
to
come
back
to
the
board
for
approval
of
whether
you
as
a
board,
wanted
to
provide
an
offset
to
that
purchase
price
for
the
developer
to
include
those
public
benefits.
I
should
note
that
this
is
not
corporate
welfare.
This
is
not
the
developer.
Coming
to
us
asking
for
money
to
make
this
project
happen.
I
suspect
that
Heinz
would
be
just
as
happy
and
Joel.
P
P
With
respect
to
your
question
on
bonding
bonding
has
been
a
topic
of
conversation
for
this
property
as
long
as
I've
been
back
at
the
agency
over
two
years,
as
well
as
before
in
terms
of
looking
at
ways
to
finances,
the
costs
are
significant
and
I
know.
There's
a
lot
of
question
as
to
how
much
we
have
vetted
those
costs
or
how
we're
misstating
those
costs
or
the
fact
that
there's
a
range-
and
that
is
all
subject
to
the
fact
that
there
is
a
question
up
to
what
level
you
preserve
or
restore
the
theater.
P
So
the
reason
we
looked
at
the
bonding
capacity
is
because
to
carry
45,
plus
million
dollar
bond
would
eat
up.
Every
dollar
of
tax
increment
available
within
the
CBD
project
area
and
I
will
tell
you,
as
the
chief
operating
officer
of
the
Redevelopment
Agency
I,
would
not
recommend
that
we
do
that,
and
so
the
question
that
I
think
really
needs
to
be
asked
is
as
part
of
the
public
process
that
is
being
asked
for
as
a
City
Council.
P
Would
you
want
to
consider
the
idea
of
doing
somewhere
between
a
1575
million
dollar
public
bond
for
a
building
in
your
downtown
area?
The
mayor,
as
we
presented
this
information
to
you,
said
that,
given
the
fact
that
we
had
just
done
a
sales
tax
increase
and
we
just
issued
a
bond
for
the
road
and
infrastructure
improvements,
she
did
not
feel
that
this
meant
within
the
priority
of
what
public
funds
should
be
spent
on,
and
she
was
not
interested
in
issuing
debt.
A
P
A
At
this
point,
I
mean
just
sort
of
layman's
terms,
because
I
think
sometimes
you
talk
in
RDA
terms
and
not
like
layman's
terms.
At
this
point,
my
understanding
is
the
board.
Is
the
the
question
to
the
board
is
whether
is
about
the
land
write-down
itself?
That's
it.
The
purchase
and
sale
agreement
is
not
an
executive
or
board
function;
it
is
that
is
an
administrative
function,
and
so
the
question
is
about
the
public
benefits
and
and
whether
or
not
that
those
public
benefits
add
up
to
and
write
down.
Madam.
Q
P
A
P
S
Yeah,
madam
chair
kid,
thanks
for
this
presentation
again
that
question
about
the
November
contract
deadline
explain
the
details
of
that.
Please,
if
you
wouldn't
mind.
P
The
the
question
on
the
contract
deadline
came
about
of
the
previous
contract,
that
is
part
of
the
due
diligence
and
finalizing
those
terms
of
moving
into
closing
on
the
property.
That's
a
deadline
that
we
had
is
actually
last
November,
but
then
we
had
a
year
to
basically
work
towards
closing,
as
we
got
to
the
point
where
we
were
looking
at
moving
forward
with
developing
the
site
that
did
not
anticipate
preserving
the
theater
those
conversations
quickly
led
to
where
we
would
just
enter
into
essentially
a
new
agreement.
P
The
the
previous
agreement
was
an
exclusive
negotiations
agreement
which
we
as
an
agency
working
with
legal
counsel,
don't
necessarily
prefer
to
do
those
anymore
as
much
as
this
work
right
into
a
purchase
and
sale
agreement,
so
where
we
felt
we
were
not
only
changing
kind
of
the
scope
of
the
development
and
where
the
project
was
headed
with
the
property
owners,
as
well
as
either
amending
the
ena
versus
a
new
agreement.
We
just
opted
to
negotiate
and
move
into
a
new
purchase
and
sale
agreement.
S
Okay,
madam
chairman,
I,
don't
want
a
question
about
a
statement
if
that's
okay,
I'm
struggling
with
this
one
Danny
and
I,
we've
talked
a
couple
times
about
it
and
rationally.
I
can't
find
a
reason
to
do
not
go
through
with
the
sale
or
support
it.
The
problem
having
right
now
is
the
public
benefit,
doesn't
seem
to
outweigh
some
specific
Geographic
arts
and
cultural,
historical
issues
that
aren't
able
to
be
replicated
anywhere
else
in
the
city.
I,
don't
have
an
answer
to
how
you
pay
for
it
and
I.
S
S
P
S
I'm
inclined
right
now
to
not
support
the
sale
and
ask
the
mayor
to
to
not
go
forward
with
the
sale
of
the
current
time,
but
that's
a
personal
opinion,
and
that
is
a
recommendation
to
somebody
else
who
doesn't
need
to
listen
to
my
advice.
Frankly,
I
say
that
knowing
fair,
well
I
don't
have
an
answer
to
this
and
I've
been
with
several
people
in
the
public
and
I.
S
Do
get
a
lot
of
people
saying
they're
prominent
people
who
would
support
a
prominent
name
is
being
put
forward
and
I'm
glad
they're,
not
putting
in
public
sphere
here
in
the
public
meeting,
because
no
one
wants
to
be
bound
to
these
things.
However,
the
time
has
passed
for
the
generalizations.
If
the
public
is
very
supportive
of
this,
we
need
more
concrete
concepts
and
ideas,
and
specifics.
I
can't
I
cannot
vote
to
hamstring
the
city.
This
way,
without
some
more
support.
Public
support
is
great,
but
we
need
money.
S
S
S
The
first
tour
I
took
when
I
got
in
the
City
Council
four
years
ago.
Was
the
you
thought
theater
what
we
just
saw
up
there
was
since
2010.
This
has
been
a
discussion.
It's
been
a
frustration
from
a
lot
of
people
before
me
and
probably
currently
on
this
board.
It's
not
quiet.
It's
not
hidden
in
any
way,
it's
hard
to
keep
track
of
everything
in
the
city,
but
it's
been
a
lot
of
time
running
the
numbers
and
the
RDA
team
has
done
a
great
job
trying
to
pursue
every
possible
Avenue.
S
R
Agree
with
councilmember
Johnston
I
want
to
exhaust
every
single
option
that
we
have.
That
could
be
out
there
because
of
that
compelling
argument
about
Penn
Station
and
what
happened
I
mean
that
is
it's
in
documentaries
out
there
when
planning
school,
we'll
look
at
these
things
and
how
did
this
happen?
So
we
are
at
this
point
where
we
can
actually
take
a
look
at
it.
R
Hopefully
the
outcome
is
different,
but
yes,
like
Andrew
said
we
don't
have
all
the
money
to
do
this
and
as
much
as
we
would
love
to
and
as
much
as
a
little
preservationist
in
my
heart,
I
am
as
a
city
planner.
We
need
your
help.
Come
come
back
with
concrete
plans
and
please
talk
to
the
mayor,
the
elect
one
and
then
the
current
one
to
see.
If
there's
anything
we
can
do
about
it.
Thank
you.
T
Guess,
I'm
the
opposite:
I'm,
actually
comfortable,
moving
forward
with
this
project.
The
reason
being
is
that
these
photos
that
we've
got
here
do
not
depict
what
is
currently
there
I've
been
through
the
building
twice.
It's
a
shame
in
his
current
state.
I
think
would
be
amazing
to
try
and
save
it,
but
for
me
it
doesn't
it
doesn't
pencil
out
and
that's
really
what
it
comes
down
to
is
penciling
out
and
and
we
you
can
see
that
we
would
tie
ourselves
in
the
CBD
district
moving
forward,
which
I
can't
do
hamstring.
T
You
know
another
future
board,
that's
coming
on,
so
for
me
as
a
as
a
board
member
as
a
city
council
member
moving
forward,
I've
heard
it
now
from
two
different
administration's
trying
to
get
something
done
and
nothing
has
happened.
I
mean
you
look
at
the
state
of
a
lot
of
our
stuff,
the
Fisher
mansion,
the
fleet
block.
You
know
the
list
goes
on
and
on
here
we
are
where
we
have
something
that
is
tangible,
ready
to
go
and
as
an
improvement
to
what
the
current
situation
is.
T
A
The
very
first
door
I
walked
in
besides
City
Hall
when
I
was
elected,
was
the
Utah
theatre
and
because
this
has
been
on
the
radar
for
a
very
long
time
and
has
been
here
in
the
laps
of
the
elected
officials
that
have
come
before
me
for
a
very
long
time
and
I
walked
into
the
doors
and
I.
Looked
at
Danny
and
I
said
we're
doing
everything
possible
to
preserve
this
and
then
I
kept
going,
and
it
is
heartbreaking.
What
has
happened
on
the
inside
of
that
building?
A
A
How
do
we
do
and
what
do
we
do,
and
how
can
we
make
this
something
for
everybody
something
people
can
enjoy,
whether
even
if
we
can't
save
it,
how
can
we
we
do
something
that
people
can
be
a
part
of
and
can
enjoy
in
our
city
and
so
I
want
to
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
our
staff
for
working
endlessly
and
tirelessly
and
every
time
one
of
us
come
up
with
another
idea
or
have
another
crazy
option.
Or
can
we
look
at
this?
A
You
do
and
I
appreciate
that
this
is
scheduled
for
December
again
I
think
we
haven't
noticed
it
yet,
but
I'm
we're
likely
going
to
have
another.
It
will
have
to
RDA
meetings
in
December
that'll
get
noticed
out
for
everybody
who's
interested
in
it.
But
if
there's
nothing
more
anything
we
need
to
move
on
to
another
agenda
item.
Thank
you.
Everyone!
Thank
you!
A
A
A
If
you
have
other
questions
that
maybe
have
kind
of
been
answered,
I
just
want
us
to
be
aware
that
we
need
to
stop
at
2:15.
We
have
a
very,
very,
very
big,
City
Council
agenda
with
very
important
items
on
it
and
there
are
still
a
couple
more
agenda
items
here.
So
please
keep
that
in
mind.
When
we're
talking
about
comments
with
that
Gio,
let
me
hear
you
say:
go
Danny,
go.
G
O
A
quick
introduction,
madam
chair,
the
board
appropriated
1.3
million
dollars
back
in
April
for
the
central,
9th
streetscape
improvements
and
electrical
undergrounding.
The
funding
was
contingent
upon
the
RDA
staff
returning
with
a
maintenance
funding
plan
and
at
the
time
a
special
assessment
area
was
identified
as
one
of
the
funding
mechanisms
for
maintenance.
The
project
designs
are
currently
at
approximately
50%.
The
total
construction
budget
is
just
over
seven
and
a
half
million
dollars,
and
this
fully
funds
based
on
current
cost
estimates.
O
The
streetscape
improvements,
the
electrical
undergrounding,
as
well
as
CIP
funding
for
the
nine
line
trail,
which
goes
right
through
this
project
area.
There
are
updated
maintenance,
cost
estimates
which
are
currently
forty-four
thousand
three
hundred
and
seven.
This
is
a
little
over
twelve
thousand
dollars
less
than
the
last
estimate
in
the
spring,
which
was
fifty
six
thousand
dollars.
The
maintenance
is
for
landscaping,
primarily
planter
beds
and
the
irrigation
they
require
hardscape
maintenance
and
then
a
contingency,
because
you
never
know
what
might
come
up.
O
The
RDA
staff
reached
out
to
the
property
owners
of
central
ninth.
They
also
calculated
the
cost
for
a
special
assessment
area,
an
essay
a
based
on
the
forty
four
thousand
dollar
annual
maintenance
estimate.
This
would
be
about
twenty
dollars
and
sixty
nine
cents
per
linear
foot
of
property
frontage,
and
that
would
be
about
twenty
eight
hundred
dollars
annually
for
the
average
property
owner
in
the
business
district.
O
O
There
are
several
maintenance
funding
options
for
the
board
to
consider.
You
could
have
project
scope
reductions.
So
if
you
don't
want
to
pay
for
the
maintenance,
you
don't
have
to
build
the
amenity
that
requires
the
maintenance
the
RDA
could
pay
for.
Some
or
all
of
the
maintenance,
however,
this
would
likely
need
to
come
out
of
program
income
fund,
which
is
the
agency's
most
flexible
dollars,
and
this
is
because
the
West
temple
Gateway
project
area
is
now
expired,
so
it's
not
bringing
in
tax
increments
that
could
pay
for
this
annual
maintenance.
O
Another
option
is
to
split
or
phase
the
funding
for
maintenance
between
the
RDA
and
the
general
fund.
There
are
several
configurations
and
timeline
upon
which
that
could
happen,
and
you
could
also
decide
to
move
forward
with
the
sa
a
process
see
how
it
unfolds
if
it
is
or
is
not
successful
and
the
sa
a
does
not
need
to
fully
charge
for
the
annual
maintenance
costs,
it
can
be
less
than
the
total
amount
as
well.
O
The
project
is
part
of
a
larger
consolidation
of
ten
projects
along
nine
hundred
south
that
stretches
most
of
the
city.
These
include
the
Public
Utilities
Department,
the
community
and
neighborhoods
Department,
as
well
as
the
RDA.
The
project
consolidation
does
result
in
a
slight
delay
to
the
construction
of
this
project,
but
there
are
several
benefits
that
are
intended
from
the
consolidation,
including
a
higher
quality,
finished
project.
More
seamless
integration
of
the
different
street
improvements
along
900,
South,
less
disruption
to
the
surrounding
residents
and
businesses
and
building
upon
the
existing
engagement
and
design
work.
O
O
Another
policy
question
is,
if
you'd
like
to
hear
more
on
the
feedback
from
discussions
with
property
owners
to
elaborate
on
that,
as
well
as
if
additional
calculations
and
methodologies
were
used
per
linear
foot
of
property.
Frontage
is
not
the
only
way
to
calculate
an
assessment
for
an
essay
a
you
could
also
look
at
property
type,
the
site
type,
the
property
valuation
or
the
distance,
such
as
a
core
versus
an
edge
model
that
some
of
you
saw
at
the
Nicollet
Mall
in
Minneapolis,
and
the
last
policy
question
is
about
snow
removal
in
the
city.
O
At
one
point,
snow
removal
was
contemplated
as
part
of
this
project
and
there
was
significant
annual
maintenance
cost
for
that
it
has
since
been
removed.
But
since
this
project
prompted
the
policy
discussion,
we
included
attachment
1,
which
is
a
summary
of
where
the
city
does
provide
snow
removal
and
it
includes
maps,
locations
and
summary
information.
There's
not
currently
a
policy
guiding
where
the
city
provides
snow,
removal,
it's
more
of
an
ad-hoc
service,
that's
currently
provided,
and
if
the
board
would
be
interested.
This
seems
like
a
council
discussion.
Considering
public
services
provides
the
snow
removal.
R
O
S
I
know
that
you
said
that
the
design
could
go
forward
without
decision
on
paying
for
an
ongoing
maintenance
I'm
concerned
that
the
design
may
be
a
major
part
of
the
ongoing
maintenance
discussion
and
doing
it
without
that
discussion
is
going
to
be
problematic.
Potentially,
is
that
reasonable
to
say,
or
am
I
off
base.
C
T
Got
a
follow-up
to
that,
but
in
our
staff
report
didn't
it
say
something
about
meeting
with
community
members
stating
that
if
we
were
going
to
look
at
doing
things
instead
of
open
green
space,
you
plant
city
trees
in
the
park
strip,
so
I
mean
there
are
things
that
would
change
how
the
sa-ay
would
be
affiliated
or
how
the
how
it
actually
is.
If
I'm
not
correct
the.
C
Design
as
it
stands
right
now
reflects
what
the
community
is
sort
of
requested
and
asked
for
which
is
street
trees,
traffic
calming
and
maximizing
as
much
parking
as
we
can
get,
and
so
the
the
maintenance
figures
as
you've
seen
the
forty
four
thousand
dollars
annually
reflect
the
maintenance
cost
for
doing
that.
So
I
feel
like.
If
we
were
to
change
the
design,
we
would
be
changing
what
the
community
hit
but
has
asked
for
in
the
project
and.
A
I
can
follow
up
on
that
to
court.
If
you
don't
mind,
we
met
with
property
owners
two
weeks
ago,
a
week
and
half
ago,
something
like
that
and
and
that
those
were
the
three
big
concerns
that
came
out
more
parking,
the
angled
parking
sort
of
in
the
middle
of
the
the
street.
If
you
will,
you
know
in
the
center
some
lot,
trees
were
very
important
and
impart
benches.
Did
we
traffic.
A
S
I'm
not
opposed
to
the
city,
taking
a
role
in
helping
with
especially
a
fledgling
area,
get
on
its
feet
and
paying
for
things
while
it
grows.
I
am
concerned
about
that
being
big
thing
going
forward,
though,
so
is
there
any
discussion
about
how
do
you
phase
that
out?
If
the
RDA
or
the
general
fund
paid
for
maintenance
for
a
couple
of
years,
or
whatever
threshold
we
decided
and
it
went
to
an
SAA
or
something
like
that?
Is
that
been
a
part
of
discussion.
O
O
There
there
was
some
discussion
not
exactly
to
your
point
but
related
that
if
there
were
to
be
any
additional
amenities
or
services
that
the
the
business
owners,
the
business
district
would
be
responsible
for
paying
for
those
and
maintaining
and
purchasing
them.
So
if
they
wanted
to
do
snow
removal,
if
they
wanted
to
do
trash
can
or
receptacles
and
recycling
if
they
wanted
to
do
enhanced
lighting
decorative
lighting,
that
is
not
something
that
the
city
would
contemplate
and
Council
or
Board.
Member
Wharton
mentioned
the
idea
of
memorializing
this
in
a
resolution.
O
If
there
was
support
among
the
board,
it
might
be
better
to
discuss
that
when
he's
here,
but
he
had
some
similar
thoughts
about
where
to
draw
the
line
of
maintenance
and
in
terms
of
when
the
maintenance,
when
the
city
would
stop
paying
or
the
RTA
would
stop
paying
for
the
maintenance
there.
It's
kind
of
forced
by
the
life
of
the
amenities
when
the
amenities
are
needing
to
be
replaced
or
when
the
amenities.
O
C
S
That's
my
exact
concern
is
that
what
do
we
start
now
is
probably
going
to
go
forward?
I
mean
I,
don't
I
don't
want
to
be
the
person
to
go,
sit
and
says
no
more
trees
and
park
benches
for
you,
but
we
also
know
where
it
clearly
that
we
haven't
paid
for
these
things
across
the
city
just
haven't.
We
still
have
a
plan
for
it.
S
So
at
some
point
we
have
to
have
a
plan
in
place
and
I,
don't
know
using
the
general
fund
is
the
answer
at
this
point
so
I'll
put
that
out
there
and
I
think
there's
gotta
be
some
give-and-take.
I
think
the
snow
removal
for
me
is
a
little
different
I
see
that
as
it
snow
removal.
For
me,
it's
different
in
the
sense
that
that's
a
public
safety
accessibility
problem
we
have
across
the
city
and
unless
we
were
going
to
enforce
on
property
owners
across
the
entire
city
to
do
their
frontage.
P
Does
this
become
its
own
identifiable
area
that
this
development
has
come
in
and
so
I
put
that
out
there
for
the
property
owners,
because
I
think
that
some
of
them
feel
that
they
have
been
impacted
by
this
zoning?
Those
who
have
been
there
a
long
time
and
that
everyone
seems
to
agree
that
this
is
probably
hasn't,
followed,
a
process
that
we
would
like
it
to
follow.
P
T
Just
gonna
follow
up
on
the
phase-in
approach.
Do
we
know
of
any
RTA's
that
do
saas
phase-in
approach
where
the
RDA
starts
off
and
they
made
to
do
all
the
maintenance,
but
as
the
property
value
is
increased
because
then
you
know
the
infrastructure
improvement.
That's
been
made
those
property
owners
start
buying
in
while
we
phase
out
I.
C
I
can
answer
that
because
I
think
what
we've
seen
in
the
city,
cities
experience
is
more
of
a
sort
of
practical.
Maybe
human
reaction
is
that
once
you
have
an
amenity
and
someone
else
is
paying
for
it,
it's
very
difficult
for
you
to
sign
on
and
say,
yeah
pay
for
it
now,
because,
really,
when
property
values
increase
the
people
who
are
owning,
the
property
will
move
increase
value,
don't
typically
experience
the
increased
value
until
they
sell
their
property
or
until
they
you
know,
rent
it
out
for
a
higher
rent.
P
Just
proposed
there
as
what
we're
proposing
for
the
station
center
improvements
is
that
because
the
RDA
is
the
majority
landowner
put
that
assessment,
arguably
in
right
now
before
we
do
the
work
before
we
even
sell
the
property
and
whoever
we
sell
it
to
comes
in
and
agrees
that
they're
going
to
buy
it
subject
to
that
assessment.
So
the
answer
is
no.
We
haven't
done
it
these
projects,
but
we're
looking
at.
A
And
these
amenities
don't
seem
like
a
lot
to
ask
for
forty
five
thousand
a
year
and
of
course,
that'll
go
up
over
time.
But
but
what's
going
to
happen
is
that
these
property
owners
that
are
there
and
making
their
own
improvements
to
their
own
property
building
businesses
they're
supporting
other
businesses,
they're
the
new
tracks
line
coming
and
all
of
the
dirt,
not
new
trucks,
but
the
station?
All
of
those
different
projects
are
going
to
bring
extra
money
into
the
area
and,
and
we
as
a
city
can
say
well,
you
sort
of
did
your
part.
A
Our
part
is
to
maintain
these
few
amenities.
That
you've
asked
for
now
mind
you
when
we
first
got
the
project,
the
maintenance
was
like
yeah,
two
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
a
year,
and
that
was
where
I
think
it
was
like.
Oh
sheesh,
how
are
we
gonna
do
that,
but
working
with
the
property
owners
working
with
our
DEA
staff
having
people
come
and
say
what
are
the
priorities
recognizing
that
they're?
What
has
gone
on
over
there
and
what
needs
to
happen
and
that
it
has
been
sort
of
a
forgotten
neighborhood
for
a
while.
A
For
me,
it
seems
like
it's
another
City
responsibility
of
maintaining
the
road
on
2,700
South
rate
I
mean
it
seems
like
a
responsibility
that
we
can
take
on
because
of
this
sort
of
I
guess
faith.
If
you
will
that
the
property
owners
put
into
the
project
the
the
whole
project
area
itself,
so
just
I'm,
throwing
it
out
there
that
that's
that's!
Where
I
stand
right
now,
we're
not
making
a
decision
on
this
today
again
we'll
probably
come
back
in
December
and
make
that
decision.
S
Don't
disagree
my
chair
to
move
on
with
this,
but
I
also
think
that
it
means
the
haves
will
continue
to
have
and
have-nots
will
have
not
we
put
money
into
a
certain
area
with
the
tracks
line,
for
instance,
and
it
made
is
blossom
because
it's
a
lot
of
infrastructure
but
parts
that
you
don't
have
that
won't
ever
get
it.
So
it's
just
forty
thousand,
but
it
also
means
that
the
equity
issue
may
continue
to
be
a
problem
across
the
city
and
places
we
put
a
lot
of
infrastructure
upgrades
versus
a
place
that
we
don't.
A
And
that's
certainly
opportunities
for
more
discussion
on
that,
as
we
continue
different
project
areas
throughout
the
city.
So
next
agenda
item
is
we're
not
going
to
it's
still,
not
two
o'clock
we
are
making
time
here
is
our
revolving
loan
fund
application?
Is
that
right?
That's
where
we're
gonna
turn
to.
L
Good
afternoon
madam
chair
I'm,
Alison
Rowland
nominal
staff
member
for
this
project,
which
does
not
have
a
council
staff
report
to
supplement
the
work
that
RDA
staff
has
done
on
this.
This
is
for
a
development,
a
request
for
from
the
revolving
loan
fund
for
a
loan
of
just
about
two
million
dollars.
I
want
to
just
remind
the
board
before
handing
it
over
to
our
DEA
staff,
one
that
this
is
linked
to
the
budget
amendment,
as
I
think
was
mentioned
earlier.
This
proposed
4.5
million
increase
in
the
revolving
loan
fund
would
actually
be
part
of.
E
L
Then
the
second
point
is
regarding
a
policy
question
that
you
may
have
seen
that
I
sent
last
week.
Essentially,
the
question
is,
as
you'll
see
in
this
project,
there's
a
proposed
mid-block
walkway.
It
is,
as
is
RDA
policy
proposed
to
result
in
a
0.5
percent
reduction
in
the
loan
interest
rate
for
this
project,
and
the
the
question
that
you
may
want
to
consider
is
whether
this
mid-block
walkway
as
it
is
proposed
for
now,
represents
enough
a
significant
enough
public
amenity
to
merit
that
change.
That's
all
I
have
gosu.
N
All
right
thanks
Alison,
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
this
loan
request
from
central
9th
development
partners
who
are
here
in
the
audience.
So
if
you
have
any
additional
questions
or
any
other
information
that
you
want
from
them,
I'm
sure
they'd
be
happy
to
answer
and
in
the
interest
of
time,
I
was
just
going
to
go
pretty
quickly
through
this.
But
if
you
have
questions,
just
stop
me
along
the
way.
N
The
applicants
have
letter
of
intent
from
two
local
tenants
who
would
like
to
oq
PI
that
space
each
of
those
spaces
has
outdoor
patio
and
gathering
space
there
on
Jefferson
Street,
there's
three
hor,
affordable
housing
units
above
that
are
designed
there,
one-bedroom
units
about
600
square
feet
each
and
they
would
be
affordable
at
60%
of
the
area.
Median
income
for
an
individual
and
the
project
also
includes
11
parking
spaces
west
of
the
building,
as
was
just
being
discussed
in
the
previous
item.
N
Parking
is
at
a
premium
premium
in
this
area,
so
that
will
help
get
especially
employees
of
the
retail
spaces
off
the
street
parking
and
allow
that
for
patrons
of
those
spaces,
the
construction
cost
is
a
little
over
2.6
million
dollars
and
the
permits
are
currently
pending
with
the
city.
The
applicant
anticipates
to
break
ground
in
late
2019.
If
this
loan
is
approved
with
a
nine-month
construction
schedule,
this
is
just
a
site
map
of
the
area
on
Jefferson
Street,
just
south
of
the
existing
central
ninth
market
building,
and
just
a
closer
up
image
of
that.
N
This
one
site
plan
shows
the
building
footprint
on
the
east
side
right
on
Jefferson
Street,
existing
buildings
to
the
north
and
south
and
parking
to
the
west
and
then
an
almost
8-foot
walkway.
That
would
separate
the
existing
central
ninth
market
with
the
new
building,
and
this
is
the
site
plan
in
3d
from
different
angles,
showing
the
retail
on
the
ground
floor,
housing
above
so
financial
overview.
The
RDA
loan
would
be
a
primary
loan
for
this
applicant
at
just
over
1.9
million.
N
The
applicant
is
requesting,
as
Alison
talked
about
six
public
benefit
interest
rate
reductions
at
0.5%,
each
for
a
total
of
three
percent
discount.
Those
would
be
for
sustainability,
public
amenities,
architecture
and
urban
design,
transit
alternatives,
economic
impact
and
affordable
housing,
and
this
map
here
shows
a
color
coding
of
those
of
those
public
benefits.
So
the
yellow
is
the
walkway
which
will
have
an
art
component.
So
it's
providing
both
pedestrian
choice
in
terms
of
where's.
N
Pedestrians
walk
as
well
as
increased
permeability
in
the
neighborhood,
which
is
something
the
RDA
generally
desires
and
then
also
has
a
public
art
component
to
it,
the
affordable,
housing
or
I'm.
Sorry,
the
economic
impact
is
the
local
business
on
the
first
floor,
affordable
housing
on
the
second
floor,
transit
alternatives
are
employee
showers
and
bike,
storage
and
lockers,
and
then
it
will
be.
It
is
designed
to
be
LEED
Silver
so
hits
the
sustainability
aspect
and
passed
a
design
review
process
for
the
RTA
for
the
architecture
and
urban
design
public
benefit.
N
The
term
would
be
a
five
year
term
with
a
five
year
extension
which
is
allowed
in
the
RTA
loan
policy
when
affordable
housing
is
part
of
the
design
for
collateral.
The
RTA
would
have
a
deed
of
trust,
lien
recorded
in
first
position,
since
the
RTA
would
be
the
primary
lender
and
then
personal
guarantees
from
persons
maintaining
20%
or
more
ownership
in
the
LLC.
The
Finance
Committee
met
in
October
and
recommended
approval
of
this,
since
it
complies
with
the
loan
policy
and
no
waivers
or
exceptions
are
requested.
N
L
L
Madam
chair,
sorry
may
just
add
one
quick
point
that
Sousa
pointed
out
to
me
in
an
earlier
conversation
just
in
general
as
a
reminder:
small-scale,
affordable
housing,
small-scale
housing
in
general
costs
more
per
unit
than
larger-scale,
and
so
that
may
be
worth
keeping
in
mind
as
well
as
you're.
Looking
at
the
potential
for
this
long
thanks
great.
S
L
S
P
Yeah
yeah
that
that's
for
the
the
housing
component,
the
original
should
say
not
the
original.
The
standard
loan
term
within
our
loan
program
is
five
years
and
that's
more
to
reflect
whether
it's
a
commercial
loan
to
get
in,
provide
the
improvements
and
get
out
for
housing.
We
recognize
that
the
stabilization
and
the
benefit
needs
to
extend
beyond
just
what
works
for
commercial
projects.
That's
why
we
provide
the
extension
for
ten,
so.
A
S
P
T
A
T
A
I
have
a
motion
by
board
member
Rogers,
a
second
board
member
Johnston,
all
those
in
favor
aye
any
opposed
all
right
that
passes
great
our
next
now
we
can
finally
get
to
this.
Our
next
item
is
our
budget
amendment
number
1.
This
is
a
public
hearing
for
the
budget
amendment
it
has
was
noticed
at
2
o'clock.
Do
I
have
any
comments
about
our
budget.
Amendment
I,
don't
see
any
so
with
that.
I
would
also
look.
D
A
C
T
A
Right
I
have
a
motion
by
board
member
Luke,
a
second
by
board
member
Rogers,
sorry
Johnston.
He
was
louder
Johnston
any
discussion,
all
those
in
favor.
Okay,
any
opposed
all
right.
There's
that
and
the
topic
that
we
love
I,
actually
really
love
it
a
lot,
but
I'm
really
glad
that
it's
on
again
our
agenda,
the
guiding
framework,
including
the
RTA
mission
and
values,
follow-up
I,
first
just
want
to
say
I,
don't
think
you
need
to
give
us
any
sort
of
presentation.
Oh
we
added
some
language.
We
added
the
sustainability
link.
A
I
have
a
second
all
right:
I
have
a
motion
by
board
member
Rogers,
a
second
by
board
member
Luke,
all
those
in
favor
aye.
Any
opposed
great
I
really
want
to
thank
all
of
you
guys
for
all
your
hard
work
on
that
and
for
putting
up
with
us
last
month
and
all
of
that
and
making
the
changes
that
we
wanted
to
make
so
I
think
with
that,
we
can
actually
adjourn
RDA
we've
dealt
with
all
of
our
business.
T
A
T
A
Powered
right
through
it
all
y'all,
oh
I,
do
need
an
approval
of
minutes
for
a
day
a
day
that
was
September
24th
and
Tuesday.
October
8th,
okay,
I,
have
a
motion.
Remember
Lucas,
second,
by
board
member
Johnston,
all
those
in
favor
aye,
good,
all
right
in
that
case,
RDA
board
meeting,
is
now
adjourned.
Thank
you.