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A
A
And
quiet
I
feel
like
we
should
have
seen
Kumbaya
or
something,
but
instead
we'll
just
get
our
meeting
started.
We
are
going
I'm
chairing
today
for
a
minute,
charlie
is,
has
some
family
things
to
take
care
of,
and
so
does
James,
although
I
hope
mr.
Johnston
is
sitting
in
for
mr.
Rogers
we
are
going.
A
B
B
Whatever
duties
you
have
related
to
policy
in
that
particular
area,
because
there
are
so
many
areas
of
policy
that
you
guys
deal
with,
we
decided
to
just
kind
of
take
a
small
chunk
first
and
start
with
the
area
of
budget.
So
the
ordinance
that's
attached
to
the
staff
report
goes
through
all
of
the
various
regular
information
requests
that
you
guys
typically
need
or
would
like
to
have
during
your
budget
deliberations
in
order
to
execute
that
function,
and
so
that's
sort
of
generally
how
its
organized
we
also
because
this
is
the
first
time
you're
adopting
it.
B
We
authored
the
purpose
statement,
but
it's
just
a
draft
so
feel
free
to
suggest
any
edits.
If
you
have
any
changes
to
that,
the
administration
did
give
council
staff
some
feedback
today
on
some
concern
about
one
one
is
just
a
minor
edit
I
think
that
is
totally
fine
in
terms
of
clarifying,
whether
it's
a
bid
proposal
or
a
request
for
proposal
and
I
think
there
suggested
language
is
probably
more
accurate,
so
we'll
probably
make
that
adjustment.
B
There's
another
section
where
they're
concerned
about
wanting
to
make
sure
that
the
council
stays
within
the
lane
of
legislative
functions
and
the
administration
situation
stays
within
the
lane
of
administrative
functions
and
so
I
think
we
just
need
to
clarify,
though
the
purpose
of
why
you
guys
are
asking
for
a
particular
piece
of
information
and
we'll
have
that
follow-up
conversation
with
the
administration.
Sorry.
A
You
know
within
the
last
two
months
that
that
we've,
this
has
been
out
with
the
administration,
so
a
little
feel
a
little
frustrated
there.
That
said,
one
of
the
things
that
came
up
was
the
list
of
vacant
city,
employee
positions
in
the
length
of
time
the
positions
have
been
vacant
and
it
seemed
from
my
understanding
of
the
feedback.
Is
that
this-
and
this
is
just
for
council
members-
knowledge
is
that
that
felt
like.
A
A
What
it
helps
us
do
and
again,
in
my
opinion,
is
make
sure
that
we're
not
wasting
money
right
I
mean
that's
kind
of
what
this
body
is
impart
meant
to
do
is
make
sure
that
we're
we're
being
responsible
in
spending
taxpayer
dollars
and
if
we
have
a
vacancy
for
two
years,
I
think
we
should
be
able
to
understand
why
it's
vacant,
what
that
position
is
and
how
much
money
we're
spending
on
it.
So
do
we
do
we
need
that
position
anymore?
Is
it
do
we
need
to
put
that
money
elsewhere?
A
So
that's
for
administrations,
clarification
as
they
asked
for
it
that
that,
in
my
opinion,
that's
sort
of
the
intent
behind
asking
for
those
vacancies
and
why
certainly
I'm
not
asking
I,
don't
think
any
of
us
are
asking
to
do
the
interviews
or
pick
the
person
or
be
the
manager
of
that
person,
which
certainly
is
administrative.
It's
more.
How
are
we
making
sure
we're
being
fiscally
responsible
and
I?
Think
that's
one
way
of
doing
that.
Yeah
Aaron.
C
I
think,
in
addition
to
that
that,
as
we're
looking
for
policy
updates,
new
ordinance
requests
that
the
capacity
of
any
department
to
be
able
to
do
that
just
based
off
of
the
personnel
time,
but
also
under
what
leadership?
Are
these
policies
being
developed
or
refined
and
executed
ultimately
by
us,
so
I
think
it's
irrelevant.
It
is
relevant
to
both
our
budget
and
our
policymaking
capacity
and.
A
I
think
Cindy.
Thank
you
very
something.
Cindy
brought
up
and
I
think
is
a
good
point
that
I
didn't
think
of
is
when
there's
a
vacancy
I
mean
just
by
design.
That
means
or
potentially
means
that
we're
we
have
a
lower
service
to
our
residents,
because
something's
not
being
filled
or
somebody's
taking
on
too
much
or
something
right
and
so
I
think
it
is
a
responsibility
to
understand
how
that
that
vacancy
or
what
that
position
is,
is
what
is
it
doing
or
not
doing
for
our
residents
and
our
service
levels.
Yeah.
B
So
I
think
we
can
safely
follow
up
the
administration
based
on
that
input.
That's
helpful
to
clarify
intent,
make
sure
that
it
sticks
within
our
our
lane
of
legislative
of
the
legislative
function.
But
I
know
it's
a
lot
to
go
through,
but
please
do
give
staff
any
feedback.
You
have
we
weren't
planning
on
going
line
by
line
in
this
briefing.
So
unless
you
have
specific
questions
on
specific
language,
we'll
probably
just
schedule
it
for
either
a
follow-up
discussion
or
individual
small
group
meetings
and
then
consider
adopting
yep.
B
A
C
B
Kind
of
of
the
staff
memo
right,
so
that
was
that
was
actually
from
our
discussion
in
that
was
from
our
discussion
in
April,
where
we
were
talking
about
the
different
segments
of
information
that
you
guys
might
deal
with,
so
that
will
actually
be
a
follow
up
ordinance.
So
right
now,
if
you
look
at
that
list
of
things,
we
are
really
only
dealing
with
the
budget
and
finance
reports,
so
all
of
those
other
things
will
come
in
follow-up
ordinances
and
the
next
you
know
in
the
coming
months.
B
D
I'm,
assuming
that
finance
had
a
chance
to
weigh
on
this
through
the
administration
and
the
time
frames
are
okay
with
me
being
it's
a
good
term
for
it
not
a
deadline,
but
an
expectation
at
that
point.
We'd
have
a
report,
yes,
and
that's
been
better
than
we're
feel
comfortable
with
that.
They
worry.
D
B
Truthfully
most
of
this,
the
list
really
originated
from
the
7,000
emails
that
our
staff
sense
to
Marybeth
staff
in
the
first
couple
weeks
of
May,
and
so
the
hope
is
that,
if
we
have
this
list
ahead
of
time
that
people
can
sort
of
plan
it
into
their
workloads
instead
of
getting
sort
of
one-off
requests.
So.
E
The
other
thing
that
I
wanted
to
add
is
this:
last
fiscal
year
during
the
budget
season,
we
gave
a
lot
of
this
information
to
you
prior
to
we
asked
the
council
to
come
up
with
specific
questions,
council
staff,
so
that
we
could
give
you
that
information
prior
to
us,
giving
you
the
budget
so
that
it
made
it
easier
for
you,
so
I'm
fine
I
mean
some
of
the
things
are
gonna.
Take
us
a
little
bit
of
time,
but
I.
You
know
we'll
go
forward
with
it.
Yeah
and.
B
A
It
seems
to
me
from
the
discussions
I
remember
is
that
we
kind
of
just
wanted
to
as
sort
of
has
been
the
theme
of
the
budget
this
year
is
streamlined
the
process
of
future
every
department,
sort
of
has
its
expectation
and
understands
so
that
when
we
get
to
those
three
four
weeks
of
budget
season,
we
are
better
prepared.
I
would
say,
because
we
already
have
those
reports
and
can
sort
of
know
if
the
funding
is
matching,
what
the
priorities
are
and
where
we
all
of
that.
E
It's
easier
for
us
right
because
the
expectation
is
set
and
some
of
this
stuff
we
can
start
accumulating
prior
to
April
and
we
can
move
it
along.
So
it's
easier
for,
for
my
staff
of
three
is
small
right
and
myself
to
get
all
of
this
information
together
we
can.
The
expectation
is
set
up
front
and
it's
easier
for
us
to
provide
that
to
you.
Yeah.
D
A
Anyone
else
have
anything
one
thing
I
would
ask
if
I
may
Patrick
the
the
feedback
we
got
from
the
attorney's
office
was
sort
of
this
feedback
of
whether
or
not
we
were
in
if
we
were
kind
of
overstepping
into
administrative
bounds,
if
you
will
and
kind
of
as
as
Jen
put
it
making
sure
we're
staying
in
our
lane,
and
we
do
want
to
make
sure
we
stay
in
our
lane,
it
was
a
two
sentence.
Ish
email
and
I
was
wondering.
A
If
maybe
we
could
perhaps
ask
for
a
little
bit
more
detail
on
this
on
what
Lynn
feels
is
sort
of
the
expectations
of
those
lanes
so
that
we
can
make
this
policy
decision
within
our
only
does
that
make
sense,
just
maybe
a
little
bit
more
detail
on
what
he
meant
with
his
concerns,
rather
than
just
kind
of
a
quick
couple
line,
email
which
I
appreciate
it
getting
back
to
us.
So
we
could
have
this
discussion,
but
when
we
come
up
with
follow-up
discussions,
maybe
we
can
have
a
little
bit
more
info
from
from
him.
A
G
So
if
I
can
just
jump
in
all
right,
so
there
are
five
five
grants
so
when
we
talked
about
these
before
so,
this
is
just
finalizing
getting
your
approval
for
the
administration
to
enter
into
five
interlocal
agreements
with
the
county,
one
for
each
each
of
the
grants.
So
I'll
take
this
chance
notes
here
just
for
a
quick
update
on
where
we're
at
on
each
one
of
these,
so
life
on
state,
which
is,
we
got
money
for
design
and
capital.
G
C
C
G
Yeah
so
I'll
just
say
you
know,
broadly
for
all
five
of
these
we're
expecting
these
are
transformative
projects
really
and
so
we're
expecting
considerable
public
engagement,
especially
with
the
residents
and
businesses
along
the
corridor
for
recognizing
these
are
all
corridors
that
impact
more
than
just
the
people
in
the
direct
vicinity,
and
so
the
outreach
would
be
would
be
broader
than
that.
But
you
know
with
with
special
attention
given
to
those
along
the
corridor.
G
We've
already
been
working
on
State
Street,
with
our
economic
development,
folks,
there's
the
new
Midtown
district,
and
so
we've
been
coordinating
with
them.
It's
been
a
little
bit
quiet
just
because
we've
been
kind
of
ramping
up
this.
You
know
this
next
phase,
but
we've
been
able
to
get
some
fantastic
feedback
and
input
from
the
businesses
along
the
corridor,
so
that
project
will
be
really
looking
at
the
pedestrian
realm
and
helping
to
create.
G
G
I
would
I
would
love
to
yeah.
You
know
it's
made
it
clear
that
that's
a
non-starter
for
them.
One
thing
that
we
have
talked
about
with
with
you
dot
is
that
normally
they
like
forcing
the
buses
to
have
to
pull
out
of
traffic
and
then
back
in
the
bus
drivers
hate
that
because
they
pull
out
and
then
they
can
never
get
back
in
and
so
we're
actually
in
the
redesign
tentatively
we're
looking
at
pulling
the
curb
line
in
all
the
way
up
to
the
edge
of
that
outside
lane.
G
So
the
buses
would
actually
just
stop
in
the
lane.
So
eventually,
as
we
run
more
and
more
bus
service
on
State
Street
that
would
now
outside
lane
would
become
basically
de-facto
bus
lane,
as
people
had
just
learned
to
you
know
just
to
avoid
it
and
that's
something
that
it's
the
little
winds
that
you
take.
G
D
G
And
that's,
where
is
those
discussions
is
where
we
came
to
the
concept
of
putting
mid-block
bus
stations
along
with
mid-block
like
signalized
crossings,
and
so
that's
something
you
da
has
already
actually
studied
and
approved
and
paying
for
a
mid-block
crossing
between
sixth
and
seventh
south
we're
anticipating
doing
another
one
between
7th
and
8th
once
the
development
is
ready
for
it.
This
is.
D
Donnie
point
for
evaluating
the
whole
corridor
from
say,
fourth
clear
to
17th
or
21st,
or
is
this
isolated?
Do
you
think
we're.
G
Calling
this
a
catalytic
site,
so
the
intent
would
be
that
this
can
show
what
can
be
done
and
then
we'll
kind
of
be
able
to
expand
from
there
as
part
of
the
grant
and
I
think
one
things
that
helped
us
get
the
grant.
Besides
the
fact
that's
just
a
great
project,
we
call
so
partnered
with
South
Salt
Lake,
so
they're
doing
a
two
to
three
block
catalytic
site
as
well
near
their
burgeoning
town
center,
south
of
21st
south.
So
I
think.
The
idea
is
that
we'll
get
two
nodes
and
then
start
working
on
connecting
them.
D
Okay,
well
I
asked
that
because
the
200
bus
that
runs
on
State
Street
stops
at
almost
every
single
stop.
I
mean
it's
heavily
heavily
used
right.
It's
also
heavily
used
by
folks
with
disabilities
and
other
mobility
issues,
and
so
it
becomes
a
bus.
That's
a
frequent
bus,
but
it
stops
so
frequently
that
it
doesn't
get
there
very
quickly
right
and.
F
D
I'm
not
saying
it's
a
problem.
It's
just
sort
of
understanding
that
dynamic
on
that
bus
particularly
has
a
certain
clientele
that
need
certain
things
and
the
parking
the
bus
lane
and
bus
stops.
Every
block
are
helpful
and
it's
a
complex
or
de
way,
so
I'm
just
intrigued
to
see
what
the
priorities
will
be,
starting
with
this
two
to
three
block
area
and
how
that
translates
to
the
rest
of
that
section
of
that
State
Street
piece
so
I
being
treated
here.
That's
we
go
forward.
Yeah.
G
G
G
G
So
so
the
the
next
project
is
the
almost
a
million
dollars
for
a
multimodal
circulation
plan,
and
so
this
is
one
that's
a
high
priority
for
Mill
Creek,
but
I
think
it's
could
be
a
really
big
benefit
for
Salt
Lake
City
as
well.
So
they've
had
interest
in
extending
streetcar
down
to
so
it
would
behave,
got
to
Brickyard
and
their
new
city
center
area,
and
that's.
G
The
the
better
thing,
rather
than
saying
we
want
to
just
extend
the
streetcar
as
you
pull
back
and
say.
Well,
let's
do
an
analysis
of
you
know
an
alternatives,
analysis
that
you
start
and
mode
neutral
and
look
at
what
destinations
you
want
to
connect
to
and
then
figure
out
the
best
alignment
and
then
figure
out
the
best
mode
and
that's
something
that
is
going
to
be
done
in
a
very
highly
collaborative
fashion.
A
lot
of
community
engagement
and
then
also.
G
Would
involve
very
high
level
involvement
from
from
both
cities,
holiday
actually
jumped
in
so
I
think,
probably,
is
maybe
a
future
consideration
analysis
of
potentially
even
extending
all
the
way
down
to
something,
especially
if
it's
a
bus
mode,
extending
all
the
way
to
the
the
old
Cottonwood
mall
site,
potentially,
which
is
anything
that
we
can
do
to
help
get
people
out
of
their
cars.
Can
you
know
along
that?
Corridor
is
a
good
thing,
so
that
will
be
a
considerable
amount
of
work
to
pull
that
project
off.
G
A
You
know:
we've
the
council
and
our
council.
Staffs
have
worked
really
hard
recently
with
Mill
Creek,
and
so
anything
we
can
do
to
make
sure
that
that
public
engagement
on
both
sides
we're
happy
to
help
out
with
that.
Just
through
the
discussions
we've
had
recently
that
culminated
sort
of
today,
but
also
I'm,
really
excited
about
this
project,
because
I
have
a
bet
with
Danny
on
what
the
study's
gonna
say
and
I
think
I'm
gonna
win.
So
here
we
can't
wait
to
see
what
this
thing
says:
okay,.
G
G
It
was
a
very
well
respected
traffic
engineer
in
the
industry,
who
were
actually
able
to
learn
away
from
the
private
sector
to
come
work
here,
and
it's
in
these
sorts
of
projects
we're
attracting
some
some
great
people
right
now,
and
so
we're
still
scoping
the
work
and
we'll
actually
split
into
two
sub-projects
one
that
will
focus
just
on
the
transit
analysis
and
then
the
other
one
will
be
an
update
to
the
sugarhouse
circulation
study
to
make
sure
that
people
can
walk
and
bike
comfortably
to
the
transit.
How.
A
I
G
We
didn't
have
time
to
wait
for
for
this
study,
but
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
make
sure
that
that's
coordinated
and
then
on
all
of
these
studies
we
anticipate
considerable
public
outreach
and
and
feedback,
and
so
this
has
been
kind
of
our
crunch
year
and
as
far
as
being
able
to
get
out
ahead
of
projects
to
be
able
to
do
proper
engagement
and
conceptual
engineering
and
design
and
planning
prior
to
the
civil
design,
and
so
basically
from
here
on
out.
We
have
the
time
to
really
do
it.
How
we
should
to
avoid
bumps
speed
bumps.
G
I
hadn't
gotten
to
that
one
yet,
but
we
can
do
that
one
next,
so
we
had
four
point:
three
million
from
the
county
grant
for
to
throw
into
that
project,
which
is
also
we
have
utility
money.
We
have
the
RDA
section
and
then
we
have
the
street
bond
to
actually
rebuild
nine
south.
So
the
RDA
is
the
way
that's
working.
Is
that
we'll
do
the
design
for
the
entire
corridor
recognizing
that
they
have
a
chunk
right
in
the
middle
weight.
G
G
They've
been
heavily
involved
in
the
discussions
on
the
life
on
state
implementation
and
they're,
also
jumping
to
well
so
night
South.
We
actually
have
a
design
consultant
selected
and
are
just
in
negotiations
finalizing
contract,
and
so
the
design
will
start
on
that
and
very
soon
and
I
will
have
considerable
public
outreach,
including
a
very
open,
transparent
process
about
parking
impacts.
When.
G
D
Quick
question
on
the
9th
South
one:
it
starts
from
6/6
West
and
it
goes
east
we've
already
done.
Essentially,
four
other
side,
the
train
tracks
going
west
any
discussion
about
how
we
bridge
that
over
the
train
tracks
there
will
this
talk
about
that
is
preliminarily
sort
of
how
we
would
start
that
process.
Or
is
it
really
going
to
be
siloed
to
six
West
going
east
and
then
what
to
deal
with
that?
At
some
point,
other
yeah.
G
J
G
People
to
look
both
ways
for
the
trains
as
they
go
through,
like
that
sort
of
thing
is
probably
what
we're
looking
at
for
now
and
then
in
the
future.
I'd
love
to
look
at
options
that
would
include
like
a
bike,
ped
bridge
or
or
things
like
that,
but
that's
gonna
have
to
be
a
future
phase.
I
think,
okay,.
D
You
asked
a
question
going
back
to
the
the
sugarhouse
well
Tumulty
transit
discussion,
so
the
money
came
from
the
county,
nine
hundred
and
forty
two
thousand
and
change
yeah.
Is
that
sufficient
for
the
entire
study,
you're
thinking
at
this
point
or
gonna
be
other
funding
has
to
be
added
into
this
I.
G
D
G
D
D
H
G
E
I
just
wanted
to
add
to
what
John
was
saying
that
we
anticipate
that
the
alternatives
analysis
will
result
in
a
locally
preferred
alternative,
which
will
be
both
an
alignment
and
a
mode
of
transportation.
It
would
be
incumbent
upon
each
of
those
jurisdictions
to
adopt
that
LPA.
Should
they
choose
to
do
so
so
they'll
be
involved
in
the
process
as
we
work
through
the
study
and
then
once
we
have
the
results
of
that
they
and
you
would
be
in
a
position
to
determine
whether
or
not
you
wanted
to
adopt
that
locally.
Preferred
alternative.
Okay,.
E
G
So,
moving
on
the
other
two
projects
were
we
have
a
West
Side
intermodal
hub,
so
this
is
at
kind
of
the
redwood
road
north
temple
area,
we're
still
working
on
temporary
solutions
so
that
we
can,
as
we
talked
earlier
this
year
about
the
issue
with
the
route
9
was
originally
planned
to
end
at
the
North
temple
redwood
area,
we
thought
we'd
be
able
to
squeeze
something
in
quickly
at
the
Rocky
Mountain
Power
site,
I'm,
going
to
contaminated
soil
issues.
So
right
now
it's
ending
at
the
Maverick
on
4th
south
and
redwood.
G
So
this
study
would
be
looking
at
more
of
a
long-term
solution
in
that
area,
for
an
intermodal
hub
and
we'd
want
something
that
is
a
true
amenity
and
not
just
a
place
for
buses
to
circle
around
and
for
drivers
to
have
their
their
break
between
runs
but
mod.
This,
and
also
the
East
Side
hub
somewhere
on
2nd
south,
which
is
the
the
other
study.
G
G
E
G
C
When
we
went
to
Boulder
years
ago
in
these
kind
of
early
explorations
of
the
what
is
now
our
ila
with
UTA,
they
have
in
downtown
Boulder
a
pretty
amazing
intermodal
hub
and
indoor
bike.
Storage
system
and
I'll
be
I'll
just
get
on
my
soapbox
one
more
time
here
and
say
it's
so
helpful.
When
we
do
City
explorations
together
to
look
at
the
way
things
actually
play
out
and
what
the
contracts
look
like
and
be
able
to
talk
to
both
sides
and
say
how
would
you
do
it
different
today?
C
C
C
F
If
I
may,
madam
chair,
this
is
just
a
heads
up
on
both
those
studies.
It
appears
to
staff
that
that,
if
one
goes
ahead
with
with
those
projects,
it's
going
to
require
a
zoning
text
amendment
for
both
areas,
because
the
way
I
read
the
the
planning,
the
zoning
code,
that
bus
line
stations
and
terminals
are
permitted,
uses
in
commercial,
commercial
corridors
and
general
commercial
areas.
D
For
the
the
West
Side
hub,
there's
two
different
versions:
one,
it's
a
long
term
bigger
plan.
One
is
the
immediate
plan,
hopefully
the
next
six
months.
This
is
gonna
capsulate,
both
of
those
even
if
they're,
divergent
or
different,
fundamentally
I
can
see
if
they're
the
same
sort
of
the
immediate
thing
leads
into
the
bigger
thing
in
the
same
location
or
a
similar
thing.
If
they
don't,
is
this
sufficient
to
do
both.
G
G
But
longer-term,
as
we
roll
out
the
rows
with
the
new,
the
two
new
Rose
Park
routes
that
are
planned,
and
then
you
have
the
5600
West
BRT
project
that
will
be
coming
down
this
corridor.
We
really
need
to
have
a
really
high-quality,
truly
multimodal
Center
for
the
transfers
between
those
routes
and
the
tracks
and
the
Redwood
Road
route.
This.
E
Probably
goes
without
saying,
but
those
I
wouldn't
envision
that
those
two
locations,
those
sites
would
be
the
same.
Well,
they
will
be
context
sensitive.
That's
their
separate
studies,
we'll
look
at
each
place
individually
so
that
we're
sensitive
to
what
is
around
those
and
what
the
needs
are.
The
needs
will
be
different
on
second
south
and
they
will
be
on
redwood
and
north
temples,
so
I
would
envision
them
potentially
being
very
different
from
one
another,
but
both
being
something
that
we
haven't
seen
yet
not.
G
G
Turning
a
second
south
into
much
more
of
a
doubling
down
on
that
as
a
transit
corridor
know
if
transit
mall
is
the
right
term
but
and
that
we
actually
have
the
the
scope
is
ready
to
we're
close
to
having
an
RFP
on
the
street
to
be
able
to
select
the
the
consultant
to
help
with
that.
So
that's
one
that
hopefully,
by
the
end
of
the
year,
we'll
have
someone
under
contract
and
rolling
and
then
by
fall
of
2020
have
recommendations.
A
Awesome
did
anyone
else
have
anything
they
wanted
to
add.
I
do
want
to
say
real,
quick
and
I've
said
it
before,
but
I
have
to
say
it
again
awesome
work
on
getting
these
grants,
I
mean
that's
a
ton
of
money
and
I
know
how
Dean
I
know
how
quick
the
turnaround
was.
I
know
how
hard
you
guys
all
worked
to
make
sure
we
got
those.
These
projects
are
so
cool
and
it's
great
to
get
money
from
the
county
anytime.
We
can
thanks.
A
A
Maybe
it
would
be
helpful
if
to
kind
of
some
of
the
points
that
were
brought
up
about
community
engagement,
if
we
could
have
just
a
one
sheet
bullet
point
of
these
projects,
one
to
tout
all
of
the
the
good
work
that
you
did
I
think
it
kind
of
gives
it
like
a
little
praise
to
the
county.
Like
supporting
our
cities,
you
know,
but
then
we
can
all
put
that
in
our
emails
and
newsletters
and
stuff,
and
then
people
start
to
be
on
the
radar
of
the
community
members
to
say.
A
I'm
gonna
be
interested
in
that
when
that
comes
up
and
then
hopefully
community
members
will
continue
to
be
engaged
in
looking
at
when
those
outreaches
are
and
not
just
throw
the
postcard
away,
but
actually
read
it
and
see
what
date
they
should
go,
engage
with
us
and
have
that
conversation.
So
if
I
think,
if
we
could
have
later
and
I'm
sure
and
one
of
our
staff
for
us
to
look,
you
can
work
with
Russell
to
kind
of
put
up
little
project.
A
F
A
G
To
mention
the
life
on
state,
we
did
peel
off
some
money
just
for
design
not
for
construction,
yet
to
look
at
second
East
and
Main
Street
to
do
high
quality,
high
comfort
bike
facilities
there
in
coordination
with
South
Salt
Lake,
just
recognizing
that
just
the
realities
of
dealing
with
the
state
route.
We
can't
do
what
we
would
do
on
a
city
street,
but
we
own
second
and
main,
and
so
we
can
really
make
those
hopefully
really
seeing
as
great
bike
regional
bike
connectors,
because.
E
K
D
K
Are
four
adjustments
requested
by
the
administration
they
took?
They
total
just
over
3.8
million
dollars
for
all
the
items
in
the
budget,
amendment
of
which
three
hundred
and
twenty
three
thousand
two
hundred
ninety
dollars
is
proposed
to
come
from
the
general
funds
fund
balance
an
update
on
fund
balance.
It
currently
is
estimated
at
thirteen
point:
zero,
seven
percent.
This
is
two
hundred
and
thirty
one
thousand
dollars
above
the
thirteen
percent
minimum
threshold
and
just
a
reminder
that
this
does
reflect
the
increased
minimum
threshold.
K
K
The
numbers
have
been
updated
since
what
was
included
in
the
transmittal
since
the
council
added
additional
parks
and
streets
impact
fees
to
CIP
and
the
budget
amendment
transmittal
was
received
before
you
adopted
CIP.
So
these
reflect
your
votes
in
the
CIP
budget
and
just
a
reminder.
In
budget
amendment
number
6
of
last
fiscal
year,
the
council
fully
funded
updating
the
impact
fee
facilities
plan.
The
results
of
that
are
not
expected
until
probably
winter,
at
the
soonest.
K
The
first
item
is
a
request
for
one
hundred
and
thirteen
thousand
two
hundred
and
ninety
dollars
from
the
fund
balance,
and
this
is
for
two
separate
items.
The
first
item
is
thirty:
five
thousand
dollars
for
security
improvements
at
for
businesses
adjacent
to
the
Paramount
homeless,
Resource
Center.
These
were
previously
discussed
during
the
annual
budget
and
they
were
going
to
come
from
cans
existing
budget
last
fiscal
year.
However,
they
were
unable
to
get
it
under
contract
by
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year.
So
the
thirty
five
thousand
drops
to
fund
balance.
K
This
would
be
approving
the
thirty
five
thousand
for
those
improvements.
The
second
item
is
six
months
of
funding
for
the
hand
director.
During
the
annual
budget,
the
council
captured
those
vacancy
savings
for
six
months
shortly
after
the
new
fiscal
year
started.
That
position
was
filled
and
this
would
be
restoring
the
funding
for
that
position.
K
The
next
item
is
a
potential
property
purchase
and
there's
not
much
information
since
has
a
property
purchase,
it
would
best
be
discussed
in
a
closed
session.
But
what
is
public
is
it's
a
request
for
three
million
dollars
of
parks,
impact
fees
and
1
million
dollars
from
the
stormwater
riparian
fund
and
public
utilities,
and
just
a
staff
note.
The
surplus
land
fund,
which
could
also
be
used
for
property
purchase,
has
a
balance
of
1.1
million
dollars.
D
K
C
K
The
discussion
is
I.
Remember
it
was,
there
is
a
ongoing
expense
of
property
maintenance.
So
each
year
the
community
and
neighborhoods
department
takes
about
200
thousand
dollars
from
that
account
for
various
depends,
what's
happening
to
the
properties,
so
the
expense
fluctuates
each
year,
but
the
revenues
into
the
account
are
one
time,
because
it's
funded
by
sales
of
property,
which
also
fluctuate
year
to
here.
D
K
So
in
20
and
fiscal
year
19
there
was
previously
a
second
ongoing
property
expense
that
was
also
funded
out
of
the
surplus
land
fund,
and
this
was
a
full-time
employee
who
worked
in
the
community
and
neighborhoods
department,
doing
property
management
and
what
the
council
did
is
say.
This
is
one
time
revenue
for
an
ongoing
expense.
You
typically
try
to
avoid
that
situation
because
you
can
set
up
structural
deficits,
and
so
the
council
took
that
position
out
of
the
surplus
land
fund
and
added
it
into
the
base
budget
for
the
community
and
neighborhoods
department.
K
The
draft
legislative
intent
is
proposing
to
do
the
same
approach,
but
with
the
ongoing
property
expenses.
It
reads:
the
council
expresses
the
intent
to
fund
ongoing
property
maintenance
expenses
out
of
the
public
services
department,
and/or
community
and
neighborhoods
department
fiscal
year,
2021
budget,
rather
than
continuing
to
use
one-time
revenues
from
the
surplus
Land
Fund,
the
council
requests.
The
administration
include
this
approach
in
the
mayor's
recommended
budget
for
fiscal
year
2021.
K
D
D
B
E
D
E
E
E
K
Back
to
a
three,
this
is
a
request
for
one
hundred
and
ten
thousand
dollars
from
the
general
fund
fund
balance.
The
intent
is
to
move
to
a
contract
approach
to
better
provide
full
staffing
of
crossing
guards.
The
contract
is
expected
to
cover
two
years
of
service
crossing
guards
currently
work
one
hour
twice
per
day
at
a
rate
of
$13
an
hour,
the
parking
enforcement
division
is
going
to
be
moving
to
a
new
shift
schedule.
The
intent
is
to
focus
on
the
higher
demand
for
parking
during
the
afternoons.
K
The
benefit
is
this
could
improve
the
turnover
of
parking
times
as
well
as
increased
revenue.
One
of
the
downsides
is
parking.
Enforcement
officers
also
cover
for
crossing
guards
when
they
are
unavailable
for
their
shift.
For
whatever
reason,
but
since
they're
shifting
to
focus
on
the
afternoons,
there
will
be
fewer
on-duty
parking
enforcement
officers
available
to
cover
for
crossing
guards.
In
the
morning.
If
they're
unavailable,
the
administration
put
out
an
RFP
on
the
contract
for
the
crossing
guards
and
the
selected
bid
had
a
significantly
lower
cost
per
crossing
than
the
city.
K
The
administration
provided
a
table
which
I'm
putting
up
on
the
big
screen,
which
shows
that
the
annual
cost
for
each
crossing
is
eleven
thousand
seven
hundred
and
twenty
five
dollars,
and
this
includes
indirect
and
direct
costs.
So
the
largest
item
by
far
is
the
first
one,
which
is
the
expenses
for
the
wages
of
the
crossing
guards,
and
then
the
next
largest
is
the
indirect
cost
of
citations
that
are
not
written
revenue.
K
The
city
does
not
collect,
which
is
estimated
at
two
hundred
and
fourteen
thousand
dollars,
and
then
there
are
materials
and
supplies,
33,000,
administrative
support,
45,000
and
then
there
are
also
HR
costs.
These
are
city
employees,
they
do
go
through
the
city's
existing
systems
and
orientations
and
trainings
and
that's
65,000,
so
the
total
cost
is
nine
hundred
and
two
thousand
eight
hundred
nine
dollars.
K
There
are
77
crossings
in
the
city
of
these,
eight
are
optional,
the
other
sixty
nine
are
required
by
state
rules,
so
the
estimated
average
cost
11725
now
the
bid
that
was
selected
from
April.
It
had
a
cost
estimate
of
seven
thousand
six
hundred
and
sixty
dollars
per
crossing,
and
it
would
pay
one
dollar
more
per
hour,
which
would
be
$14
per
hour
for
the
crossing
guards.
So
this
is
four
thousand
dollars
less
per
crossing
and
it
would
pay
$1
more
per
hour,
which
is
expected
to
help
with
retention
and
staffing.
K
D
K
D
K
K
Those
are
all
of
the
administration
items.
There
are
a
few
more
counsel
added
items,
I'll
go
through
item
I.
One
is
a
follow-up
from
the
council's
July
16th
action
when
you
approved
an
interlocal
agreement
to
implement
the
transit
master
plans,
frequent
transit
network
in
the
city,
part
of
the
funding
our
future
initiative.
The
final
estimated
budget
was
almost
a
million
dollars
less
than
what
was
originally
included
in
the
annual
budget.
K
At
the
time,
the
council
asked
staff
to
bring
this
up
in
the
next
budget
amendment
to
put
the
funding
into
a
holding
account
and
hold
a
discussion
about
how
else
these
funds
could
be
used
for
transit
related
uses.
But
the
council
wanted
to
wait
for
the
results
of
the
branding
study
and
the
fair
passed
analysis
study.
So
those
results
could
inform
what
the
options
would
be.
So
this
would
be
the
formal
step
of
just
putting
those
funds
into
the
holding
account
pending
receipt
of
those
study
results.
K
We
already
talked
about
I
2,
I
3.
This
is
a
follow-up
from
the
fiscal
year,
20
CIP
budget.
These
are
the
street
impact
fees,
280
1690,
as
well
as
the
parks
impact
fees
just
over
1.1
million.
That
was
added
into
the
CIP
budget
above
what
was
originally
identified
in
the
annual
budget.
So
this
is
the
formal
step
of
authorizing
those
funds
for
the
projects
you
identified
and
there
are
several
projects
which
are
pending
the
council.
Action
to
release
these
funds
and
those
are
listed
in
the
staff
report.
K
The
next
item
is
I-4,
and
this
is
related
to
the
increased
fun
balanced
policy
that
the
council
established
in
the
annual
budget.
In
looking
back
on
the
previous
10%,
it
was
established
through
several
council
actions,
including
a
legislative
intent,
a
resolution,
your
budgetary
actions,
as
well
as
the
mayor's
recommended
budget,
so
staff
drafted
a
legislative
intent
to
help
put
in
writing
that
this
is
the
city's
established
policy
in
case
anyone
asks
or
would
like
to
see
something
written
down.
K
This
is
something
we
could
point
to
the
draft
intent
reads:
the
council
expresses
the
intent
to
maintain
a
fund
balance
at
least
equal
to
or
greater
than
13
percent
of,
the
annual
general
fund
budget.
We
recognize
the
importance
of
maintaining
a
healthy
fund
balance
level
to
support
triple-a
bond
ratings,
which
result
in
lower
borrowing
costs
for
taxpayers,
meet
fiscal
requirements
under
state
law
and
provide
necessary
funding
to
respond
to
emergencies.
K
I'm
seeing
nods
and
smiles
the
last
item
in
the
budget,
amendment
is
I
five,
and
this
is
also
a
follow-up
from
CIP.
Some
council
members
expressed
interest
to
increase
the
percent
for
art,
which
is
currently
set
by
ordinance
at
1%,
to
increase
it
to
one
and
a
half
percent.
This
would
require
thirty,
six
thousand,
eight
hundred
and
eighty
three
dollars
to
do
so
for
this
fiscal
year,
and
this
would
only
be
a
one-time
increased
one
and
a
half
percent
absent
in
ordinance
amendments
to
require
the
higher
level.
K
Otherwise,
the
ordinance
only
requires
the
1%
each
year.
There's
currently
no
ongoing
funding
for
maintenance
of
the
city's
public
artworks.
There
is
estimated
to
be
150
there's,
probably
more,
and
the
collection
is
expected
to
continue
increasing.
There
was
a
2013
appraisal
report
of
art
in
this
building,
the
city
and
county
building
I
think
it
also
included
Plaza
349.
It
estimated
the
total
replacement
value
of
the
111
works.
A
Can
I
ask
a
question
on
that?
I
remembered
this
sort
of
coming
up
and
during
CIP,
but
I
think,
given
that
there
is
no
art,
maintenance,
maintenance
funding
and
the
policy
question
is:
do
we
as
a
council
want
to
request
the
attorney's
office
to
prepare
an
ordinance
amendment
increasing
the
ongoing
percent?
I
would
like
to
have
a
policy
discussion
about
putting
that
point
5.
If
we
are
going
to
increase
it,
then
dedicating
that
point:
5
percent
to
maintenance
and.
F
J
C
A
A
I
would
just
ask
perhaps
the
chairperson,
if
maybe
we
can
come
back
to
this
at
a
future
date
and
find
with
this
budget
amendment
for
this
year,
but
before
we
increase
it
permanently,
I
think
it's
important,
as
we've
been
discussing
since
I've,
been
on
the
council,
the
role
of
maintenance
in
the
city
and
how
we
fund
that
maintenance
Ted.
If
we're
going
to
increase
it,
which
I
think
is
great
I
love
public
art.
We
need
to
maintain
it
and
figure
out
how
to
the
best
way
to
do
that.
Dance.
D
B
Maybe
art
is
installed
along
a
trail
and
then
that
trail
is
maintained
by
public
services
and
no
one
you
know
owns
the
maintenance
of
the
art
is
that
is
that
the
art
board
who's,
not
in
the
business
of
maintenance
typically
or
is
that
the
people
who
are
in
the
business
of
maintenance?
So
maybe
we
just
we
need
to
circle
back
with
the
administration,
get
some
more
information
on
where
that
would
be
appropriate
to
even
locate
those
funds.
I.
D
Would
encourage
that
a
second
councilmember
Fowler
statement
earlier
about
visiting
that
piece?
I,
don't
know
how
probably
want
to
make
this,
but
it
seems
like
it
would
need
to
go
there.
What
you're
talking
about
it,
I'll
ship
for
once
it's
created
and
some
are
may
not
be
maintained.
It
may
be
transitional.
J
Thank
You
councilmember
Mendenhall,
so
I
yeah,
I
I'm
supportive
of
the
of
this
piece
in
the
budget
amendment.
But
before
we
change
the
ordinance
I'd
also
would
like
to
talk
more
about.
You
know
how
to
allocate
that
extra
half
percent
and
while
you
know
I
understand
that
you
know
the
arts
community
may
not
have
brought
up
the
the
maintenance
piece
I
mean
we
really
haven't
had
to
use
it.
Yet
a
lot
of
the
art
that
we
have,
especially
the
public
art
outside,
is
newer
and
so
or
it's
being
maintained.
J
You
know
at
on
the
city's
dime,
so
I
think
having
a
Proactive
plan
and
a
maintenance
fund,
so
that
when
there
are
problems
with
some
of
these
art
pieces
it
shouldn't
should
a
problem
arise.
We
have
a
fund
ready
to
go
to
continue
that
maintenance,
because
just
you
know
adding
new
pieces
and
letting
you
know
the
existing
art
run
into
disrepair
wouldn't
be
responsible
either.
K
K
J
J
J
F
This
meeting
is
a
follow-up
from
the
discussion
last
week
on
the
funding,
our
future
housing
programs
that
the
council
put
into
a
holding
account
during
the
budget
session.
Sorry,
during
the
budget
discussion,
it's
about
ooh
one
point:
seven,
seven:
five
million
dollars
total
and
I
guess
the
question
for
today
is
whether
the
council
wants
to
discuss
these
items
or
any
of
the
programs
in
particular,
or
go
ahead
and
get
ready
to
adopt
the
current
ordinance
that
we.
J
Have
in
draft
form,
thank
you,
so
we
do
I
mean
we
did
have
quite
a
bit
of
discussion
about
this
last
week
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
before
we
move
forward
that
you
know
we
have
an
opportunity.
If
any
of
you
have
any
follow-up
questions
about
about
this
item,
and
if
you
don't,
then
when
does
that
is
fine
too
just.
B
Procedurally,
it
is
on
your
formal
agenda
for
adoption
tonight.
The
attorney's
office
prepared
an
ordinance
that
would
effectively
release
these
funds.
You
don't
have
to
take
action
tonight
if
you
don't
feel
ready,
but
that's
kind
of
the
purpose
of
this
conversation.
It's
just
checking
in
making
sure.
F
J
H
J
J
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
J
After
you
know,
several
months
of
you
know
long
meetings,
you
know
really
good
negotiations
and
that's
what
that's
what
we
will
be
talking
about
in
the
center
local
agreement.
Jennifer
Bruno's,
our
council
office,
deputy
director
Sam
Owen,
is
our
council
office
policy.
Analyst
Sam
will
walk
us
through
the
inner
local
and
talk
about
some
of
the
specifics
of
the
circuit
of
the
agreement,
but
before
we
do
that,
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
the
the
the
work
of
council
staff,
the
administrative
staff
and
and
council
members.
J
You
know
from
our
city
as
well,
as
you
know,
our
dart
corresponding
representatives
and
in
Mill
Creek,
as
is
with
any
negotiation.
You
know
there
are
ups
and
downs.
Things
started
off.
You
know
you
know
fairly
rough,
but
what
we,
what
we've
been
able
to
do,
I
think
is,
is
a
perfect
example
of
how
local
government
works
best
and
and
why
it's
important
for
the
legislature
in
particular,
to
allow
municipalities
to
to
work
through
their
issues.
I
I
can,
you
know,
speak
for
myself,
but
I
also
feel
safe.
J
You
know,
speaking
for
mayor
silva
strany,
that
you
know,
I
the
sense
that
I
had
during
the
negotiation
is
that
all
of
the
comments
all
of
the
work
that
was
done,
both
cities
did
what
they
felt
was
in
the
best
interest
of
their
residents.
That
was
constantly.
That
was
the
paramount
concern
that
that
all
of
us
shared-
and
I
think
because
of
that
concern
because
of
that
focus
on
our
residents
and
in
what
the
best
in
you
know
what
was
the
in
the
long-term
best
interests
of
our
of
our
respective
cities.
J
L
So
the
negotiations
between
the
elected
officials
over
the
last
several
months
addressed
a
couple
of
boundary
adjustment
proposals.
This
is
the
first
one
where
this
is
a
rendering
of
the
first
map.
What
you
see
here
is
13th
east,
where
it
becomes
Richmond,
Street
Highland
Drive
is
the
other
border
and
then
you've
got
Woodland
Avenue
and
Miller
Avenue.
This
boundary
adjustment
includes
a
number
of
commercial
properties
that
would
be
part
of
Mill
Creek
as
part
of
the
proposal
they're
currently
part
of
Salt
Lake
City.
L
These
are
the
only
tax
generating
properties
that
are
part
of
the
two
separate
boundary
adjustments.
They
collectively
generate
about
sixty
one
thousand
dollars
a
year
and
combine
property
and
sales
tax
as
compensation
for
the
properties
becoming
part
of
Mill
Creek,
Salt,
Lake
City
would
receive
about
six
hundred
and
ten
thousand
dollars
over
the
next
ten
or
so
years
per
the
terms
of
the
inner
local
agreement.
L
Is
this
roundabout
at
2030,
east
and
27
South?
It's
currently
in
Salt
Lake
City,
it's
actually
a
U
dot
property.
Mill
Creek
has
asked
that
it
be
adjusted
into
their
city,
so
they
can
landscape
the
roundabouts
beautify
the
area
to
make
kind
of
a
gateway
to
Mill
Creek,
which
they
don't
currently
have
the
jurisdiction
to
do
without
the
adjustment.
So
those
are
the
two
properties
like
I
said
the
inner
local
provides
for
so
excited
to
be
compensated.
L
That
covers
most
of
it
in
terms
of
the
logistics.
The
resolution
that
the
council
would
adopt
in
two
weeks
here
would
initiate
the
boundary
adjustment
process
between
the
two
cities.
That
starts
a
two
month
period
during
which
there
there
cannot
be
a
public
hearing.
So
there's
like
a
two
month
noticing
period
at
the
end
of
which
public
hearing
takes
place.
The
council
receives
in
a
comment
and
then
takes
action
on
an
ordinance
that
would
potentially
adopt
the
boundary
adjustment
we
in
the
two
cities.
B
There's
ways
that
two
speaking
to
the
earlier
conversation
about
the
planning
of
a
the
extension
of
the
sugarhouse
streetcar
line
like
doing
some
of
those
sort
of
coordinated,
cross-jurisdictional
planning
efforts
and
so
I
think
those
are
ongoing
and
will
continue
past
when
the
council
adopts
this
resolution.
I
think
the
assumption
is
that
that
will
continue
forward.
So
thank.
J
J
What
we
will
do,
though,
is
you
know:
we've
we've
talked
about
having
our
planning
office
and
and
Mill
Creek's
planning
office
work
together
as
Mill
Creek
moves
forward
on
their
city
center,
so
that
any
any
planning
efforts
you
know
any
potential
CRA
in
in
in
the
Brickyard.
Would
there
would
be
a
joint
planning
effort
there
so
that
so
that
the
the
end
product
of
development?
Actually
it
would
that
it
will
be
consistent
and
uniform.
J
You
know
you're
not
going
to
see
one
city
building
a
20-story
tower
on
it's
done
its
property
and
you
know
the
expense
of
the
other,
its
others.
So
you
know
that
that
ongoing
collaboration
and
my
opinion
is-
is
you
know
one
of
the
one
of
the
best
outcomes
that
we
could
have
imagined
you
know
last
year,
so
anyway,
questions
or
comments
from
the
council
tonight.
A
A
You
think
it
went
from
maybe
and
I
will
say
this
just
from
me.
Maybe
some
snarky
comments
here
and
there
who
really
having
a
working
relationship
in
a
collaborative
relationship
and
I
think
it
really
just
goes
to
show
what
Charlie
said
about
local
politics
and
and
that,
if
these
we
all
care
about
our
neighborhoods
and
about
our
community.
So
much
and
I
think
that's
where
that
emotion
and
that
passion
comes
from
is
just
we
care
about
our
communities
and
we
want
the
best
for
them
and
we
get
protective
of
them.
A
I
think
and
I
have
really
grown
to
appreciate
the
dialogues
and
and
the
jokes
and
the
new
friendships
I
think
we've
gained
out
of
this
and
want
to
thank
you
all
for
always
sitting
at
the
table
and
having
those
hard
conversations
with
us
with
us,
so
that
we
could
come
to
this
agreement,
and
we
said
it
this
morning
and
the
press
conference,
but
hopefully
be
examples
of
what
other
cities
neighboring
cities
should
be
with
one
another
that
we're
all
in
this
together.
Somehow
and
I
mean
it's
everybody's
community.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
that.
D
J
J
F
L
C
L
The
sixty
one
thousand
is
is
based
on
the
most
recent
year,
for
which
full
receipts
are
available.
I
believe
that's
fiscal
year
2018
in
terms
of
the
history,
how
that
stacks
up
I,
you
don't
know
the
answer
to
that
question.
We
can
check
with
finance
and
find
out
what
that
line
looks
like
and
then
in
terms
of
projection.
I
also
don't
know.
I
can
ask
finance,
but.
L
J
And
one
so
the
middle,
so
the
middle
building
right
there
is
there's
a
Comcast
facility,
and
this
question
was
posed
at
the
press
conference
about
whether
you
know
what
kind
of
revenue
was
generated
from
that
we
do
not
receive
any
revenue
from
Comcast
Billings,
so
yeah
the
there
there
was.
You
know
the
the
assumption
was
that
there
was
more
money
there
than
there
actually
is
and
and
so
it
this
mainly
is
just
you
know
the
property
tax.
J
The
sales
tax
would
be
from
the
piece
to
the
left
on
the
on
the
chart
and
then
there's
this
the
strip
mall
that
includes
Katmandu
the
restaurant
and
there's
a
soccer
shop
and
some
other
stuff
the
lactation
station
as
well.
So
they
said
that
those
are
the
commercial
properties
on
that
on
that
on
those
parcels.
D
L
B
D
B
B
D
J
J
We've
we've
dealt
with
that
for
40
plus
years,
so
you
know,
and-
and
we
can
still
you
know
if
residents
you
know
do
want
to
do
something
else
and-
and
you
know,
look
at
annexing
or
squaring
up
the
boundaries.
They
can
do
that,
but
you
know
art
our
feeling
was
it
was
it
was
we
wanted
to
deal
with
the
immediate
issues?
First
and
you
know
for
Salt
Lake.
It
was
you
know,
having
some
resolution
on
on
the
Brickyard
and
from
Mill
Creek.
J
F
J
J
J
He
you
know
he
has
been
apprised,
he's
a
you
know
him
in
the
loop
as
to
things
moving
forward,
and
the
plan
is
for
mayor
Silva,
straining
myself
to
visit
him
in
North
Logan
and
present
this
OP
new,
not
present
him
the
option,
but
tell
you
know
to
let
him
know
that
the
agreement
has
been
raged.
Yeah.
F
The
reason
why
I
ask
is
because
I
I'm,
hoping
that
the
legislators
who
were
maybe
wanted
to
be
involved
in
this
are
also
comfortable
with
this
deal
and
and
that
they're
and
it
sounds
like
they
are-
that
they're
gonna
have
the
understanding
that
that
this
resolves
the
issue
and
there
won't
be
the
need
for
any
for
them
to
bring
any
other
legislation.
That
might
you
know,
disrupt
the
agreement.
J
Yeah
I
would
never
guess
or
I
would
never
venture
to
guess
that
the
Legislature
would
be
comfortable
with
anything
that
we
come
up
with,
but
but
what
I?
What
I
will
say
is
that
the
request
that
was
made
by
both
cities
to
let
us
work
on
a
solution.
We
have
done
that
and
you
know
if
and
you
know,
I
think
having
both
cities.
You
know
able
and
willing
to
stand
together.
If
there
is
another
push
to
say,
look
you
know
we
asked
for
we
asked
to
let
us
resolve
this.
We
have
resolved
it.
J
So
thank
you
for
your
interest.
Okay,
other
questions
or
comments,
mayor
silk-screening.
If
you
want
to
join
us
at
the
table,
typically,
we
don't.
We
don't
have
comment
in
a
work
session,
but
this
is
a
extraordinary
circumstance
and
it
made
sense
to
invite
marisa
silvas
trainee
to
talk
about
things
from
his
perspective.
So
mayor,
thank
you
for
being
here
so.
M
Thank
you,
council,
chair
luke,
and
I
appreciate
the
courtesy
of
of
breaking
the
rules
and
speaking
of
your
work
meeting,
but
I
think
it's
an
important
watershed
event
for
our
cities
and
I
I.
The
few
words
I'd
like
to
say,
first
of
all,
I'd
like
to
say
like
to
echo
the
remarks
that
council
chair,
Luke
made
and
and
councilman
Fowler
made.
We
had
really
great
collaboration
and
I'm
gonna
include
councilmember
Rogers
in
that
as
well,
because
he
was
part
of
that
on
his
team.
M
I
want
to
thank
sherry,
Jackson
on
our
Mill
Creek
Council
and
like
Marchant
who's,
also
council
district,
1
they're,
their
districts
kind
of
covered
this
area,
but
they
Lee,
sherry
was
with
us
as
well
and
and
and
that
description
I
would
I
would
also
echo
the
description
of
those
negotiations.
As
you
know,
they
began
out
and
maybe
less
not
the
way
we
would
like
them
to
have
begun.
M
That
is
the
tone
of
collaboration
that
we've
established
for
the
future
with
respect
to
this
area
and
everything
else
not
only
along
our
northern
boundary,
which
we
share,
but
also
I,
think
there
are
things
that
we
can
do
collaboratively
in
the
legislature
and
on
other
issues
that
we
share.
Mill
Creek
residents
are
very
similar
to
Salt
Lake
residents
and
we
share
concerns
about
you.
Know:
growth,
congestion,
air
quality,
affordable
housing,
transit,
you
name
it
so
I
think
that
we
can
be
solid
partners
on
that.
I
think
this
is
a
good
start
for
that.
M
The
other
thing
that
I
wanted
to
say
and
and
I
will
take
credit
for
drafting
the
language
that
went
into
the
interlocal
agreement
on
this.
But
what
we
are
agreeing
in
this
interlocal
is
that
is
consideration
for
this
boundary
adjustment.
Mill
Creek
swearing
off
the
Brickyard
forever,
and
we
will
stand
by
that
commitment
and
if
it's
necessary,
we'll
go
to
the
legislature
and
say
no
okay,
so
you
have
our
you.
M
Have
our
commitment
on
that
and
I've
also
agreed
to
go
on
a
road
trip
to
see
representative
matter,
whoever
else
we
have
to
see
on
this
and
the
other
any
other
things
I
want
to
say
is.
That
is
thank
you
for
this,
because
you
know
told
the
story
before
about
our
residents
identified
this
area
as
a
town
center.
It
actually
makes
sense
as
a
town
center,
because
it's
centrally
located
in
Mill
Creek
and
it's
an
area
especially
on
our
side
of
13th.
These
that
needs
to
be
rejuvenated.
M
It
needs
a
facelift,
and
this
this
boundary
adjustment
will
enable
us
to
accomplish
that
much
easier.
So
we're
not
dealing
with
two
sets
of
zoning
and
two
Planning
Commission's
and
two
city
administrations
will
do
a
coherent
lis
and
the
other
thing
I'm
looking
forward
to
is
working
with
you
all
to
to
basically
plan
this
whole
area
because
someday
the
the
1970s
era,
brick
era,
shopping
center,
is
going
to
need
the
same
kind
of
or
some
kind
of
treatment,
and
you
know
to
plan
this
area
jointly
in
a
way
that
makes
sense.
For
both.
M
You
know,
residents
of
Mill,
Creek,
ants
and
Salt
Lake
City,
so
that
it
works
together
as
a
unit,
so
we're
not
stepping
on
each
other
or
duplicating
each
other.
I
think
is
a
marvelous
way
for
cities
to
behave.
So
thank
you
for
that
and
thank
you
also
for
the
roundabout.
So
it
doesn't
generate
any
revenue.
It's
you
dot
property,
but
it
will
enable
us
to
you
know:
it's
been
a
of
complaints
that
I
get
all
the
time
about
its.
M
You
know
the
weeds
grow
up
and
they
don't
get
taken
care
of
I
know:
there's
been
an
irrigation
system
put
in,
but
then
it
was
ruined
when
the
parlays
trail
got
built.
I
guess
so
it
will
enable
us
to
take
ownership
of
that
figuratively,
not
literally,
but
and
to
landscape
that
and
make
it
be
a
gateway
and
for
our
city
and
that
that
also
will
you
know,
Salt
Lake,
City
residents,
exit
that
ramp
and
going
that
way
too.
So
it'll
be
better
for
everybody.
M
That
way,
and
we
will
commit
to
do
whatever
is
necessary
to
maintain
the
parlays
trail.
That's
a
treasure
for
us
as
well.
That's
the
way
I
get
I
can
commute
around,
and
so
you
know
we
were
partners
and
all
that
that
outdoor
recreation
and
trail
stuff
were
just
solidly
behind
that
so
and
I
I
think
I
always
thought
that
was
County
maintained,
but
the
extents
it's
not
will
step
up
on
that
issue
that
that
is
covered
in
the
local.
M
That
is
important
is
you
know,
Salt
Lake
City
has
water
infrastructure
that
goes
through
that
property
and
we
will
execute
whatever
easements
or
whatever
to
protect
those
interests.
Your
water
system
is
our
water
system,
so
you
know
we
have
an
a
solid
interest
in
protecting
all
that
as
well.
So
I
don't
know
if
you
have
any
questions
or
anything
but
I.
We
just
want
to
say.
Thank
you
very
much
and
I
think
this
is
a
great
day
for
both
of
our
cities.
Thank.
M
So
I
believe
there
are
actually
five
property
owners
in
this
area
and
I
know
that
three
three
of
them
have
responded.
Favorably
to
the
idea
there
they're
going
to
probably
see
a
little
bit
of
a
reduction
in
taxes
and
then
that
there
are
two
residential
properties
there
that
we
have.
We
haven't
had
any
communication
with
in
some
time,
but-
and
we
sent
letters
out
on
this
because
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
it
was
you
know,
okay
with
them,
we
haven't
heard
any
objection.
M
So
obviously
that's
that's
kind
of
what
the
public
hearing
on
this
is
all
about.
To
give
them
an
opportunity
to
be
heard.
The
one
one
thing
I
can
say
if
I
can
just
in
terms
of
process
so
as
I
understand
it,
this
is
your
briefing
Mill
Creek
will
have
a
first.
What
we
call
a
first
read
on
September
9th,
which
is
our
next
council
meeting
I
understand
that
comes
back
to
your
agenda
on
the
17th
for
consideration
of
adoption
of
the
resolution
and
interlocal.
M
We
see
it
on
the
23rd
of
September
and
then
we
have
the
60-day
period
for
the
public
hearing
which
will
for
you
will
be
on
November
I,
can't
remember
if
it's
the
19th
or
the
17th
that
can't
read
my
own
writing
and
ours
is
on
the
25th
of
November
and
then
we'll
consider
final
adoption
on
December,
9th
and
I.
Think
you
get
on
the
3rd
of
December.
So
that's
the
time
frame
and
that's
mandated
by
state
law
that
requires
that
60-day
notice
before
a
public
hearing
great.
So
thank.
C
C
If
there's
going
to
be
a
joint
statue
of
the
councilmembers
who
participated
from
both
sides
mounted
in
the
middle
of
the
roundabout
and
and
if
so,
I
want
to
be
on
the
jury
of
who
selects
the
artist
for
that
one
and
then
I
want
to
know
if
you're
gonna
take
advantage
of
that
new
state
law
that
allows
the
contemplation
of
tolls
on
state
roads.
I
think
it
was
meant
for
a
seed
of
the
centralized
edge
Commission.
But
you
know
this
could
be
a
revenue
generating
possibility
for
you.
So
I.
M
Don't
think
it's
legally
binding,
but
it's
morally
binding
that
I
go
to
Logan,
okay
and
I've
I'm
doing
that
on
the
public
record
here
in
terms
of
the
legislators,
I
guess
it
probably
depends
on
who
you
get
you
know,
I
mean
some
of
them.
We
might
voluntarily
go,
but
you
know
don't
know
about
that
and
then,
in
terms
of
tolling.
M
And
we
noticed
this
is
a
public
meeting
for
Mill
Creek,
so
you
know
we
could
probably
vote
right
now,
but
not
likely
we're
gonna
see
tolling
there,
although
as
a
member
of
the
central
Wasatch
Commission,
that
is
something
we
do
have
a
an
issue
to
solve.
With
respect
to
traffic
there
and
and
and
while
tolling
isn't
popular,
it
has
been
a
marvelous
thing
in
Mill,
Creek
Canyon.
It
has
enabled
the
improvement
of
infrastructure
in
that
Canyon.
It's
a
nominal
toll.
You
know
I
want
to
preserve
access
to
the
canyons
and
I
and
I.
M
Don't
want
to
do
anything
that
restricts
that,
particularly
with
respect
to
being
affordable
but
I,
but
I
also
know
that
we
need
to
be
creative
about
how
we're
going
to
solve
some
of
the
problems
we
have
up
there
to
protect
the
watershed,
protect
the
recreational
asset
and
protect
it
from
all
the
loving
it's
getting
and
also
make
it
so
that
I
can
go
skiing
without
having
to
wait
for
two
hours
at
the
bottom
of
the
canyon.
So
does
that
help
you
yeah.
A
Study
for
the
transport,
mass
transportation
and
I
really
look
forward
to
seeing
how
that
study
comes
out
and
and
I
think
it
will
really
play
into
how
we're
kind
of
building
up
that
area
right
there.
And
it's
it's
exciting
that
we're
here
at
the
table
now
and
we
get
to
come
back.
Hopefully
in
about
a
year
and
a
half
and
see
you
see
what
we're
gonna
do
then,
and
so
you
know
again
just
that
these
are
the
types
of
connections
we
want
to
make
sure
we're
having.
M
You
know
we
supported
that
grant
because
it
benefits
both
of
us
and
I
know
that
Jan
has
been
working
on
on
that
and
RFP
for
the
consultant.
Our
our
staff
has
been
involved
in
that
as
well.
I'm
excited
about
that
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
possibilities
for
you
know
for
linking
sugarhouse
and
our
town
center.
In
some
way
it
needs
to
be
done
while
stage
twenty
fifty
says
nodes
of
density.
You
connected
by
transit,
we're
all
over
that.
So.
J
J
Our
next
item
is
an
ordinance
regarding
an
alley
closure
to
approximately
ten
or
1,000
South
between
800
West
and
Jeremy
Street,
its
references,
Meade
Avenue,
but
the
city
recognizes
it
as
an
alley
rather
than
the
street,
so
Bryan
Fullmer
is
our
council
policy.
Analyst
has
been
working
on
this
david
Gellner
is
the
principal
planner
on
this
project
and
then
ignore
us.
Is
our
planning
director.
D
F
N
And
the
entire
alley,
there
is
an
alley
that
runs
between
800
West,
900
West,
but
because
it's
bisected
by
Jeremy
Street,
we
considered
this
to
be
a
whole
alley.
Ie
between
800,
West
and
Jeremy
and
then
from
Jeremy
to
900.
West
would
be
a
separate
alley.
So
it
wasn't
just
a
segment
of
the
alley.
As
Brian
mentioned
it
was
referred
to
as
a
street.
N
N
We
looked
at
this
if
we
under
the
for
policy
considerations
or
an
alley
vacation
for
processing
purposes,
and
it
was
what
the
applicant
submitted
the
public
safety
that
it
was
a
nuisance,
contributing
to
that.
So
it
did
seem
to
meet
that
policy
consideration
at
least
for
processing,
but
then
looking
at
the
the
factors,
the
hate
factors
that
go
into
analyzing
the
vacation.
N
The
reports
from
the
Salt
Lake
City
Police
Department,
indicated
that
while
there
were
a
number
of
activities
reported,
they
didn't
describe
any
of
them
as
alarming.
So
that
is
how
we
came
to
the
negative
recommendation
that
looking
at
those
factors
more
closely,
it
didn't
seem
to
rise
to
warrant
the
vacation
and
also
the
alley
is
still
passable.
It
is
definitely
not
in
perfect
shape,
but
it
is
passable
and
drivable.
So.
F
N
N
D
F
D
N
He
again
he
described
the
the
officer
with
the
police
department
said
that
there
was
a
fair
amount
of
activity,
but
he
just
said
that
he
didn't
classify
it
as
alarming,
but
I
think
from
staffs
perspective.
We're
not
discounting
that
there
may
be
a
public
perception
that
it's
a
nuisance
and
contributing
to
crime.
So
yeah.
D
I
mean
I,
understand
the
rationale
you're
taking
on
here,
I.
Think
the
seemingly
unanimous
agreement
of
the
neighbors
jacent
to
that
and
their
perception
is
as
a
major
factor
here
and
I
mean
I
want
to
go
off
of
data
and
I
am
that's.
Why
I'm
asking
about
the
police
stuff
a
little
more
because
it's
hard
to
it's
hard
to
quantify
that
based
on
knowing
we
have
lower
levels
of
crime
reported
in
this
district
versus
other
districts
right,
so
the
this
year
volume
itself.
F
As
a
refresher
for
me
David,
so
let's
say
this
alley
was
vacated
and
what
happens
to
that
alley?
Do
you
so
you
are
we
gonna
fence
it
like
it's
part
of
the
property
owners
that
will
get
part
of
the
alley
to
the
north
I
believe?
Will
they
will
they
close
this
alley
and
then
we
won't
be
accessible
to
the
general
public
or
I
can
remember.
N
Typically,
in
this
case,
the
disposition
from
the
city
would
have
to
go
to
the
property
owners
from
the
north,
so
it
would
be
closed.
They,
of
course,
could
split
that,
with
some
of
the
property
owners
to
the
house,
though,
to
the
south,
that
would
be
a
private
transaction,
that
the
city
isn't
a
part
of
typically
when
an
alley
is
vacated,
it
splits
down
the
middle.
If
it's
equally
between
two
subdivisions,
which
is
not
the
case
here
and.
F
N
F
C
N
C
Think
I
I'm
concerned
that
a
closure
of
a
portion
of
the
alleyway
and
a
dead
end
of
the
rest
of
the
alleyway
would
might
relieve
those
immediately
adjacent
neighbors
of
of
crime
or
people
loitering
in
the
area.
It
might
also
increase
their
concentrate
that
same
activity
to
their
neighbors
to
the
west.
D
I
I
hear
customer
Mendenhall's,
saying
I
also
know
that
there's
nobody
who
actually
accesses
the
alleyway
from
their
property,
nobody
on
Mead
or
on
faith
or
on
Jeremy,
accesses
the
back
their
property
through
the
either
little
salaries
that
I'm
aware
of
so
functionally.
They
become
just
passed
through
they're,
not
actually
usable
for
the
neighbors.
D
The
future
may
hold
different
ideas,
but
that's
not
necessarily
the
reality
of
this
right
now
and
so.
Cleaning
up
the
alley
to
make
it
pass
well
doesn't
actually
help
those
with
their
neighbors
necessarily,
which
is
why
I
think
they're
looking
at
the
the
alley
closure,
because
it's
not
being
used
as
it
is
now.
So
it
only
attracts
one
thing.
J
I
James
Kieffer
I
live,
like
you,
said,
on
the
south
side
so
and
Clint
lives
behind
there.
So
again
we're
the
that
wouldn't
receive
any
of
the
properties.
So
I
mean
this
isn't
like
a
selfish
grab
here,
just
to
kind
of
address
the
concerns
that
has
been
brought
up
by
the
Commission,
the
Planning
Commission
I'm
kind
of
curious
to
know
what
alarming
means,
because
you
know
a
lot
of
us
have
kids
there
and
I
walk
up
and
down
that
we
see
all
manner
of
trash.
We
see
drug
needles.
Often
I
mean
that's
kind
of
alarming.
I
For
me,
my
fence
has
been
ran
into
twice
when
we're
talking
potholes
we're
talking
huge
dips.
This
would
be
a
huge
undertaking
for
the
city
to
repair
it,
let
alone
upkeep
the
bushes
everything
else,
along
with
the
asphalt
so
yeah,
my
my
fence
has
been
smashed
over
it.
That's
alarming
to
me,
that's
just
my
presentation
that
we
have
a
couple
of
the
other
neighbors
here
to
all
that
sign
were
100%
on
board.
I
O
I
have
a
picture
of
some
dudes,
but
from
when
there
was
people
getting
it
on
in
the
alley.
Who
wants
their
kid
to
walk
out
and
see
that
you
know
what
I
mean,
so
his
fence
is
still
down
and
part
of
the
only
reason
that
Ali
is
still
passable
is
because
your
went
mirror
can
go
over
where
his
fence
is
down
because
of
all
the
brush.
That
is
on
the
other
side
and.
I
I
did
want
to
address
and
Mendenhall's
concern
about
the.
If
I
was
understanding
you
right
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
the
blue
alley,
they're
ending
as
a
dead
end
of
being
another
vagrant,
you
know
possible
dead
spot.
We
did
want
to
close
that
alley
down.
We
actually
tried
to
submit
a
request
to
close
both
of
those
down.
I
I
As
far
as
safety
concern
and-
and
you
were
absolutely
right-
Andrew
there
is,
none
of
us
have
like
a
private
access,
so
it
wouldn't
be
blocking
us
at
all.
It
is
strictly
a
pass-through,
in
fact,
none
of
us
like
every
use
it,
except
for
maybe
to
walk,
which
I
had
no
problem.
I
mean
we're
talking
one
house
over
and
I'm
to
a
full
Street.
So
it's
not
like
it's
inconveniencing
password'
buys
in
the
slightest
yeah.
O
There's
a
lot
of
the
reason
that
we're
that
does
tee-off
part
of
the
reason
that
there
wouldn't
be
as
much
criminal
activity
at
that
dead-end
is
because
there's
no
trees,
there's
no
cover
the
people's
fences
are
more
see-through.
It's
more
well-lit.
Where
we
are.
You
can't
even
see
the
alley
in
the
picture
because
of
all
the
overgrowth
and
that's
why
people
stop
there,
because
there's
places
to
hide
there's
people
places
to
hide
things.
That's
the
problem!
There's
none
of
that.
O
J
C
C
I
I
O
C
Does
make
a
circle
through
things,
sorry
where's,
a
gate.
It's.
O
O
And
so
that
guy
uses
that
side
to
drive
through,
but
the
only
reason
he
does.
That
is
because
he
has
a
bunch
of
stuff
back
there
and
he
sells
a
lot
of
items.
Everybody
else
that
comes
up,
Jeremy
Street
either
lives
there
or
just
is
there
by
accident,
and
when
they
look
down
both
sides
of
the
alley
to
go
down
it,
they
go
oh
well
which
one's
going
to
damage
my
car,
less
cuz.
O
If
you
go
down
the
other
side,
the
bumps
are
even
bigger,
there's
not
as
much
overgrowth,
but
the
bumps
are
even
bigger,
I,
don't
even
drive
down
it.
I
could
go
straight
from
my
driveway
out
to
that
2/9
and
go
up
to
the
grocery
store,
but
I
don't
even
go
down
and
I
have
a
truck
I.
Never
do
you
know
because
it
didn't
so
freakin
bumpy.
So.
C
Bryan,
there's
there's
so
many
colors
on
this
map
and
what
you
were
referring
to
is
the
blue
t-bone
is
that
baby
blue
between
9th
and
Jeremy,
so
I
hear
that
there's
another
pending
applet.
C
F
C
O
J
J
J
F
F
J
Were
having
public
hearings
tonight
so
great,
so
we
will
set
that
on
the
consent
or
that's
on
the
consent
agenda.
We'll
do
that
and
then
that'll
be
on
October
15th
great
okay.
Thank
you
all.
Thank
you.
That
is
the
final
item
that
we
have
on
our
work
session.
With
the
exception
of
a
closed
session,
and
so
once
we'd.
Once
we
do
the
closed
session,
then
we
will
reconvene
in
our
formal
meeting
at
7
o'clock.
So
I
didn't
hear
your
question.