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A
A
B
Although
conducting
our
meetings
electronically
is
different
from
our
familiar
in-person
public
needing
process,
this
is
still
considered
an
open
and
public
meeting
for
the
work
session.
We
welcome
members
of
the
public
who
may
be
watching
our
usual
video
feeds
on
the
salt
lake
city
council's
agenda,
page
our
youtube
page
slc
tv
or
facebook
live.
Although
there
is
no
public
comment
during
the
work
session,
you
could
also
join
us
for
the
7
pm
meeting.
B
Anyone
can
reach
the
city
council
by
mailing
us
at
p.o
box,
145,
476,
salt
lake
city,
utah,
84114-5476
or
emailing
us
at
council.comments
slcgov.com,
or
by
calling
our
24-hour
phone
comment
line,
which
is
801-535-7654
we'll
now
move
on
to
our
work
session
items.
Our
first
item
is
an
update
on
the
status
of
local
emergencies,
so
I
so
with
us.
B
We
have
mayor
aaron,
mendenhall,
rachel,
otto
chief
of
staff
and
the
items
that
we've
asked
the
administration
to
touch
on,
for
today's
briefing
are
an
update
regarding
the
president
approving
the
major
disaster
declaration
for
utah
from
the
earthquake,
an
update
regarding
the
commander's
intent
and
what
that
was
in
response
to
protests
that
we've
had
in
salt
lake
city
recently
and
at
what
point.
The
salt
lake
city's
commission
on
racial
equity
and
policing
will
begin
to
have
its
public
meetings.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chair
and
council
members.
C
It's
good
to
be
back
with
you
this
week,
so
I
think
the
plan
for
the
next
little
while
on
this
update
is
to
first
have
pam
lothgreen,
give
a
quick
update
on
the
earthquake
disaster
designation,
and
then
I
want
to
turn
the
time
to
the
mayor
to
give
her
thoughts
on
the
commander's
intent
or
on
the
protests.
C
B
C
Sorry
that
my
apologies,
we
must
have
gotten
our
wires
crossed
on
the
timing
for
today,
but
she
was
able
to
update
in
the
start
call
this
morning
on
this
designation.
C
I
know
that
there's
not
a
lot
of
additional
information
other
than
the
fact
that
the
president
did
sign
the
designation,
and
I
know
that
she's
still
been
working
up
the
chain
of
command
on
with
the
county
in
the
state
on
what
that
means
and
how
we
can
make
sure
that
our
residents
are
assisted
with
any
any
needs
they
have
related
to
the
earthquake
and
any
other
financial
impacts
to
the
city
on
that.
C
So
I'm
happy
to
have
her
either
provide
a
written
update
to
the
council
if
that
would
help
or
I'll
pass
along
what
she
was
able
to
brief
us
on
in
the
circle
this
morning.
If
that
helps.
B
I
think
you
can
just
fill
us
in
on
what
we
talked
about
on
the
start.
Call.
C
C
Thank
you,
and
then
I
don't
know
if
the
mayor
wants
to
say
a
couple
of
words
about
recent
events
to
I
do
okay,
good
well
here
she
is,
I
don't
wanna,
I'm
not
making
any
assumptions
now
who's
on
the
call.
D
Mr
chair
and
council
for
giving
us
this
opportunity
at
all
of
your
work
sessions,
to
give
you
an
update.
D
The
intent
of
the
police
department
on
thursday
was,
as
you
could
see,
at
the
very
top
of
the
statement,
to
do
to
allow
two
things
to
express
the
first
amendment
rights
of
speech
and
assembly
to
allow
people
to
do
that
and
to
protect
the
life
and
safety
of
the
protesters.
The
general
public
and
the
police
department.
Employees
and
I
think,
overall,
the
shift
toward
intervening
when
there's
vandalism
and
violence
afoot
is
was
really
because
we
wanted
to
ensure
that
the
message
of
the
protest
isn't
drowned
out
by
illegal
acts
of
violence
and
vandalism.
D
B
B
Aaron
or
excuse
me
mayor,
is
there
a
reason
why,
like
it
at
this
time,
like
in
previous
demonstrations,
we
had
been
more,
the
police
had
made
a
strategic
and
tactical
decision
to
allow
protesters
to
or
that
they
weren't
gonna
intervene
with,
like
small
acts
of
vandalism,
or
things
like
that,
and
but
my
understanding
was
with
this
protest
that
they
informed
protesters
that
they
that
they
would
be
arresting
people
or
issuing
citations.
B
D
Well,
I
know
that
from
a
city
perspective
we're
still
getting.
D
I
don't
know
that
we've
released
official
numbers,
but
we
incurred
not
small
damage,
as
you
put
it,
but
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
worth
of
damage
and
the
district
attorney
has
said
that
he,
his
team's
estimates,
are
over
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
worth
of
damage
to
his
building.
D
So
I
I
you
know,
that's
not
what
we
were
seeing
with
the
protesters
and
after
weeks
of
protests
that
have
not
all
been
completely
peaceful.
You
know
there
has
been
some
some
incidents
from
time
to
time.
D
So
yes,
there
have
been,
as
I
said,
over
40
days
of
the
same
intent
happening,
but
we
did
not.
I,
I
don't
believe
it's
right
for
us
to
say
that
we'll
allow
some
small
acts
of
vandalism
and
violence
to
take
place,
and
where
do
you
draw
the
line
with
that
when,
when
we
see
that
there,
those
protesters
were
willing
to
push
it
over
over
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
worth
of
damage.
B
I'm
sure
mayor
that
you
saw
like
some
of
the
the
officers,
the
footage
of
officers,
kind
of
charging,
the
crowd
and
things
like
that.
Why
do
you
know
or
can
the
chief
talk
about
why
that
is
the
best
strategy
or
why
that
was
necessary.
D
B
Think,
if
the,
if
we
can't,
if
the
chief's
not
available
to
give
us
an
answer
right
now,
we
could
take
that
later
as
as
like
a
in
a
written
briefing
or
we
could
schedule
it
for
a
follow-up.
I
thought
that
I
had
seen
a
text
that
the
chief
was
with
us.
So
sorry
about
that.
D
Mr
chair,
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
to
your
question
about
small
vandalism:
yeah,
we,
the
intent,
didn't
change
until
after
the
destruction
of
the
da's
office.
So
it's
not.
I
think
the
question
felt
like
it
was
a
position
that
we
made
that
shift
before
the
da's
announcement
and
it
did
not
so
the
protest
tenor
shifted
dramatically
and
then
the
intent
of
the
police
department
did
to
reflect
that.
B
Obviously
the
protest
on
thursday
and
the
city,
the
city
police,
department's
response
on
thursday
was
different
from
what
we
had
seen
and
from
the
majority
of
the
protests
coming
forward.
So
what
I
was
trying
to
ask
was
why
there
why
there
was
that
difference
and
that
also
in
previous
ones,
that
the
the
officers
had
made
the
tactical
decision
not
to
enforce
all
of
these
property
crimes,
and
so
I
that
was
what
my
question
intended
to
be
and
was
intended
to
be,
and
I
I
think
that
you
answered
that
so
sorry.
D
I'll
just
say
that
it
is.
It
chief
could
clarify
me
on
this
when
he
is
when
he's
invited
to
join
the
meeting,
but
the
pd
response
did
not
shift
on
thursday.
The
protesters
behavior
shifted
and
had
they
enacted
that
kind
of
destruction
and
violence
any
day
in
the
42-day
41
days
before
that,
you
would
have
seen
that
same
response
from
our
police
officers.
E
Thanks
chair,
so
the
if
I
actually
would
like
some
clarification
as
to
what
changed?
Is
it
just
the
destruction
of
the
building
that
changed
or
was
there
some
other
acts,
because
the
things
that
I
saw
seemed
like
it
wasn't
that
many
people
and
the
police
were
kind
of
charging
like
councilmember
wharton
was
asking
about?
Was
it
just
the
destruction
that
we
viewed
as
a
change
in
the
protesters
behavior
or
was
there
something
else
that
I'm
not
aware
of.
A
B
C
I
apologize
mr
chair.
I
apparently
I'm
just
striking
out
with
actually
successfully
inviting
people
to
this
meeting,
so
that
is
here.
D
B
D
Some
confidential
matters,
and
so
that
was
a
separate
question
then
would
he
be
here
at
this
time
so.
B
B
Then
yeah,
I
misread
that
when
I
saw
the
text
come
in
so
okay
well,
in
light
of
that,
then
we'll
just
court
is
that
the
the
best
way
is
cindy
and
rachel
just
to
have
staff
coordinate
on
whether
it's
better
to
have
a
written
response
or
if
we
want
to
have
the
chief
come
to
our
next
work
session
and
talk
about
it,
then
I'll.
Let
you
staff
from
both
sides
work
on
that.
B
Okay,
let's
move
on
then
unless
well
does
anybody
else
have
any
questions?
Oh,
we
had
the
last
point
that
we
were
going
to
address
on.
This
was
the
the
commission
on
racial
equity
and
policing
and
when
they
were
going
to
start
having
open
meetings.
C
Yep,
thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thanks
for
the
council's
support.
As
we've
worked
to
launch
the
commission
on
racial
equity.
C
They
are
working
toward
figuring
out
a
manageable
but
representative
size
of
a
commission
to
to
do
this
work.
We've
coletta
and
I
have
met
with
katie
and
katie
lewis
to
talk
through
making
sure
that
we
can
successfully
open
these
meetings
to
the
public,
which
is
definitely
what
the
commission
desires
to
do,
and
my
understanding
is
that
they
once
they
have
a
full
commission
that
they
have
been
able
to
invite
to
the
table
that
will
start
noticing
those
meetings
publicly
and
the
public
will
be
invited
to
attend.
C
So
my
hope
is
that
they're
ready
to
do
that
next
week,
so
they
will
have
met.
Just
as
you
know,
the
core
members
will
have
met.
I
think
two
or
three
times
before
you
know
the
greater
commission
is
then
fleshed
out.
We
begin
to
do
those
meetings
publicly
next
week.
So
that's
that's
kind
of
the
short
of
it.
There.
B
Okay,
all
right,
thank
you!
Are
there
any
other
questions
on
anything
related
to
the
emergency
items
and
the
marriage?
Proclamations?
B
Okay,
let's
move
on
to
agenda
item
number
two,
which
is
an
informational
briefing
on
transportation
impact
fees,
facilities
plan
and
with
us
we
have
ben
ludke
from
the
city
council
office,
fred,
philpott,
a
consultant
dan
rip
from
hand,
policy
and
programs
manager,
matt
cassell
city,
engineer,
john
larson
transportation,
director
and
jennifer
mcgrath
interim.
Can
director.
F
F
F
F
F
The
last
thing
I
want
to
note
is
that
the
streets
reconstruction
bond
funding
would
be
leveraged
by
this
update
to
the
transportation
section.
So
there
are
projects
that
would
be
funded
by
the
bond
and
receive
funding
from
these
transportation
impact
fees
and
that's
by
design
and
that's
a
great
way
to
make
sure
the
city
can
spend
these
funds
and
not
risk
them
being
unspent
for
six
years,
and
then
the
city
would
have
to
refund
them
with
interest.
F
F
G
All
righty
sorry,
I've
had
to
join
via
the
phone
conference
call
as
well
as
web-based
my
audio,
isn't
working
for
some
reason,
so
sorry
for
the
delay
there.
G
So
if
you'll
jump
to
the
next
slide,
the
impact
fee
process
is
defined
by
these
two
documents.
We
have
an
impact
fee
facilities
plan,
as
well
as
an
impact
fee
analysis.
G
The
impact
fee
facilities
plan
identifies
the
proposed
projects
level
of
service,
any
excess
capacity
in
the
system
that
the
impact
fee
analysis
combined
that
combines
those
variables
into
what's
called
a
proportionate
share
analysis
next
slide.
G
G
For
impact
fees
they're,
typically
these
main
elements
when
evaluating
the
methodology
and
completing
the
proportionate
share
analysis.
We
have
to
define
the
service
area
and
demand.
G
G
Some
of
these
we've
completed
the
noticing
requirements
have
been
completed
to
begin
this
process
and
we've
prepared
the
draft
impact
fee
facilities
plan
and
impact
fee
analysis.
G
G
We
then
go
through
the
public
hearing
process.
There
are
certain
noticing
requirements
for
that.
We
have
to
allow
at
least
10
days
of
noticing,
prior
to
public
hearing,
then
at
the
public
hearing,
you're
able
to
review
the
information
and
then
adopt,
modify
or
reject
the
proposed
impact
fees.
G
G
If
you'll
jump
to
the
next
slide
specific
to
transportation,
the
service
area
is
a
city-wide
service
area.
The
demand
that
we're
looking
at
is
pm
peak
hour
trips.
G
This
is
trip
statistics
between
the
hours
of
four
to
six
pm.
What
this
represents
is
is
peak
demand
on
that
system,
which
is
how
your
roads
will
be
evaluated
and
sized
is
to
meet
that
peak
demand
variable.
G
This
is
slightly
different
from
the
previous
analysis,
which
used
in
average
daily
trips
based
on
further
review
with
city
engineers,
as
well
as
your
contract
engineers.
We
shifted
to
this
demand
variable,
which
again
reflects
that
peak
utilization
of
the
system.
G
Looking
at
level
of
service
here
we
evaluated
a
valuation
system
valuation
salt
lake
city
is
in
a
unique
position
and
that
you're
focusing
less
on
expansion
of
roadways
and
looking
at
alternative
ways
to
move
demand
within
your
system.
G
G
That's
based
on
the
requirement
that
we
look
at
the
actual
cost
or
original
cost
of
existing
infrastructure,
and
we
can
only
recoup
that
so
we're
able
to
show
on
a
level
of
service
basis
that
the
cost
per
trip
that
we're
proposing
is
lower
than
the
existing
level
of
services.
That
is
provided.
G
There's
some
existing
bonds
that
were
used
to
fund
various
infrastructure
existing
infrastructure
we've
also
included
that
in
determining
the
value
of
the
existing
system
and
then
looking
at
future
facilities,
a
total
of
12,
almost
12.7
million
of
project
costs
are
included
in
the
proportion
share
analysis
and
allocated
to
new
development.
G
We
are
assuming
that
the
bond
will
be
utilized
to
provide
some
matching
funds
to
ensure
that
the
non-growth
related
portion
of
those
projects
can
be
funded,
but
the
impact
fee
addresses
just
the
growth
related
portion
of
those
projects,
and
no
debt
is
included.
G
That
also
helps
eliminate
the
need
for
a
credit.
The
impact
fee
act
requires
that,
if
debt
is
considered
that
an
appropriate
credit
is
applied
to
ensure
that
we're
not
double
charging
new
development,
so
in
essence,
new
development
will
pay
for
the
debt
similar
to
existing
development.
For
that
repair
and
replacement
portion
of
projects,
the
impact
fee
will
cover
the
growth
related
portion
of
those
projects,
and
the
combined
funds
will
be
used
to
ensure
that
those
projects
become
a
reality.
G
If
you
jump
to
the
next
slide.
This
illustrates
the
proportion
of
share
analysis.
As
you
can
see,
the
buy-in
is
included
at
the
12.6
million
in
buy-in
the
future
facilities
at
almost
12.7
million.
We
also
account
for
existing
impact
fee
fund
balance
that
is
available
to
fund
future
facilities,
there's
some
professional
expense,
which
includes
the
cost
to
go
through
the
iffp
and
ifa
process.
G
All
of
that
cost
is
divided
by
the
trips
that
are
anticipated
in
the
planning
horizon
that
produced
a
cost
per
trip
of
433
dollars.
When
we
look
at
the
document,
the
impact
fee
document
that
was
is
provided
a
detailed
schedule
of
that
cost
per
trip
is
applied
to
the
different
land
uses,
as
ben
mentioned.
There
are
several
land
use
categories
identified
in
the
impact
fee
facilities
plan
and
impact
fee
analysis.
G
That
list
is
not
comprehensive,
so
there
is
a
non-standard
fee
calculation
that
allows
the
city
to
look
at
unique
land
uses
and
calculate
the
fee
based
on
this
cost
per
trip
to
compare
your
existing
fee
schedule
to
the
proposed
fee
schedule
here.
G
A
single
family
dwelling
is
approximately
0.99
trips
pm
peak
hour
trips
that
would
produce
a
fee
of
429
dollars
compared
to
your
existing
fee
of
333
dollars.
Sorry
330
dollars,
which
is
a
thirty
percent
increase.
Now
all
of
the
other
land
use
categories,
there's
a
different
percentage
change.
Some
are
proposed
to
go
down.
G
Some
are
going
up
slightly
when
compared
to
the
general
categories,
but
again
that,
as
the
refinement
that
ben
mentioned
that
allows
more
equity
by
land
use
type
rather
than
having
those
five
general
categories
that
were
presented
in
the
previous.
G
Analysis,
if
you
jump
to
the
next
slide
the
next
steps
in
this
process,
we
would
finalize
the
iffp
and
ifa
based
on
any
recommendations
or
comments
you
may
have
and
we'll
meet
with
stakeholders
and
solicit
feedback
from
those
groups.
We
will
then
prepare
a
final,
iffp
and
ifa,
and
then
the
city
will
draft
a
an
updated
ordinance.
G
We
will
then
go
through
the
noticing
requirements
and
then
we
have
the
opportunity
to
hold
the
public
hearing
and
then
the
council
will
adopt,
modify
or
reject
the
proposed
impact
fees.
Based
on
that
discussion
during
the
public
hearing
and
again,
the
90-day
wait
period
for
any
increase
in
the
impact
fee.
G
So
that's
a
quick
run
through
for
the
transportation
impact
fee
and
I
think
we're
now
going
to
open
up
for
discussions
and
I'll
be
available
for
that.
E
Let's
say
I
have
a
current
movie
theater
that
has
a
hundred
seats
and
I
want
to
redevelop
into
one
that
has
200
seats.
Do
I
pay
an
impact
fee
on
200
seats
or
on
100
of
new
seats.
G
It
would
just
be
the
increase,
so
the
net
increase
the
100
seats
in
your
scenario.
G
Correct
because
the
the
net
demand
is
just
the
the
expansion.
E
E
H
I
have
a
question:
maybe
this
is
more
for
for
jim
bruno,
if
she's
around,
from
what
I
hear
from
this
presentation,
this
impact
fees
that
we
collect
it's
only
for
new
facilities
and
they
need
to
steer
away
from
the
maintenance
of
it
like
they
have
to
take
the
maintenance.
I
mean
they
don't
even
calculate
the
maintenance
portion
of
it.
So
is
this
a
state
law
or
or
or
okay,
so
it
is.
I
can.
I
can
see
you
okay,
so
there's
nothing.
We
can
do
about
hey
portion
of
this
feast
for
the
maintenance.
I
We
have
engaged
with
the
city's
lobbyists
because
there
are
quite
a
few
improvements
from
the
city
budget
perspective.
I
mean,
I,
I
see
them
as
improvements
from
the
city
budget
perspective
that
could
be
considered.
I
State
law
but
legislators
have
been
pretty
resistant
in
past
years.
A
I
That
the
conversations
are
still
ongoing,
so
we
haven't
totally
left
that
aside,
but
it
kind
of
it
feels
a
little
bit
like
baby
steps
and
maintenance
might
be
a
big
step.
But
it's
worth
considering.
B
Doesn't
look
like
it
all
right?
Well,
thanks
so
much
fred
and
ben
for
taking
us
through
that,
and
I
appreciate
that.
B
So,
let's
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
agenda
item
number
three,
which
is
a
5g
and
small
cell
discussion
with
us.
We
have
cure
luke
from
the
city
council
office
and
kimberly
sheiters
from
the
city
attorney's
office,.
A
A
J
Good
afternoon,
I
thought
I'd
give
a
really
brief
update,
because
not
everybody
on
the
council
was
here.
The
last
update
we
had
so
just
to
remind
you
all
what
a
small
cell
is
normally
with
cellular
towers,
you
think
of
a
macro
cell
tower.
That's
one
of
the
huge
ones.
That's
really
high
off
the
right-of-way
they're
several
miles
apart.
J
5G
is
the
next
generation
of
cellular
communications
and
it
it
can
only
be
translated
transmitted
through
small
cells,
so
small
cells
only
go
a
couple
hundred
to
maybe
a
thousand
feet
in
distance
to
transmit
their
signal.
So
that
means
to
have
coverage.
You
need
a
lot
of
them.
They
have
been
putting
up
small
cells
for
4g
a
4g
antenna,
which
is
you
know
the
most
current
service
that
we
have
right
now
or
common.
I
guess
service
and
that
transmits
data,
but
not
at
the
same
speed
the
small
cells
fill
in
coverage
gaps.
J
Are
there
any
questions
about
what
small
cell
does?
I
feel
like
we've
covered
it
before,
but
I
know
some
people
are
new
okay.
So
let
me
go
over
a
couple
of
the
questions
that
kara
gave
me
to
ask
and
I'll
try
to
watch.
If
you
have
questions
and
raise
your
hand
and
then
we'll
go
over
sort
of
what's
happening
in
the
city,
so
small
cells
are
governed
mostly
by
federal
law.
J
There's
the
telecommunications
act
in
1996
and
then
there's
also
a
couple
of
recent
very
recent
fcc
orders
that
basically
tell
cities
what
they
can
do
with
small
cell
applications.
How
long
we
have
to
look
at
them.
What
has
to
be
approved
and
cities,
state,
state
and
cities?
Powers
are
limited
to
any.
You
can't
prohibit
or
effectively
prohibit
the
ability
to
put
a
small
cylinder
right
away,
and
so
we're
really
just
limited
to
non-discriminatory,
competitively
neutral
requirements
and
under
the
left,
the
most
recent
fcc
order
and
then
state
law.
J
J
J
So
the
process
for
a
small
cell
provider
to
get
a
small
cell
in
the
right
of
way
is
they
have
to
have
a
master
license
agreement
with
the
city.
They
have
to
have
a
franchise
agreement
to
run
the
fiber
to
the
small
cell,
and
then
they
have
to
get
a
permit
to
work
in
the
right
of
way.
There's
by
state
law
there's
no
zoning
oversight.
There
is
no
public
process,
it's
just.
If
you
comply
with
the
requirements
of
getting
the
permit,
you
get
it
once
you
have
our
master
license
agreement
in
place.
J
So
one
of
the
questions
kiera
passed
on
to
me
is
what
are
the
city's
rights
to
enforce
our
ordinance
and
our
and
our
permits?
So
in
our
small
cell
ordinance,
we
built
in
some
enforcement
provisions
so
that,
in
addition
to
having
a
contract
breach
of
our
master
license
agreement,
we
also
have
the
ability
to
notice
a
provider
if
there's
a
default.
J
J
Now
so
the
question
was
asked:
are
we
having
any
issues
with
compliance
and
right
now?
The
answer
is
not
really.
There
are
a
hundred
poles
small
cell
facilities
that
have
been
installed
already.
We
have
had
a
couple
where
the
city
has
worked
with
the
provider
on
the
location
and
the
location.
So,
for
example,
there
was
one
permit
that
was
issued
and
then
it
turned
out.
The
provider
didn't
show
a
tree
on
its
permit
application,
and
the
pole
would
have
been
too
close
to
the
tree.
So
we
worked
with
the
provider
on
moving.
J
It
there's
been
a
couple
cases
like
that,
but
for
the
most
part,
engineering
reviews,
the
permit
applications
to
make
sure
they
comply
with
all
the
city
requirements
and
then,
before
the
permits,
close
engineering
has
an
inspector
that
goes
out
and
make
sure
what
was
installed
complies
with
the
plans
so
that
they
actually
installed
what
they
said
they
were
going
to.
We
will
talk
about
civic
engagement
in
a
minute
so,
but
we
haven't
really
had
a
problem
with
providers
not
complying
and
they're
really
well
versed
on
our
guidelines,
our
design
guidelines.
J
At
this
point,
any
questions
on
enforcement.
B
K
I
do
know
that
I
have
one
resident
in
my
neighborhood
who
had
a
pretty
good
complaint
about
the
cell
phone,
the
cell
tower
being
on
his
right
away,
because
he
already
had
a
two
light:
poles
on
the
same
intersection.
So
he
had
a
light
pole
and
then
10
feet
away.
He
had
the
self
pull
right
next
to
it,
and
when
I
went
by
his
house,
I
drove
by
his
house
and-
and
he
had
another
pole
on
his
other
right
away
because
he
lived
at
the
intersection
and
you
know.
K
Obviously
the
complaint
is.
He
looks
up
his
house
and
he's
got
three
poles
all
right
in
his
small
lot,
and
that
was
the
question
is
like
hey:
could
they
join
the
two
poles
or
remove
one
of
the
poles
or
move
it
just
just
so
that
it's
not
right?
Next
right?
Where
that
you
know
right
in
this
is
a
viewpoint,
and
I
I
know
it's
not
easy,
but
that's
where
I
look
at
the
engineers
and
I
look
at
this
cell
phone
friday.
J
So
I'm
not
sure
that
distance
from
street
lighting
poles
is
part
of
our
considerations.
That's
something
we
could.
I
can
ask
engineering
and
follow
up
with
you
yeah.
L
J
J
I
will
say
that
locations
are
chosen
based
on
demand,
so
they
look
at
a
lot
of
factors
and
because
the
distance
between
poles
is
not
very
big,
there's,
not
necessarily
a
huge
area
where
those
poles
can
be
placed
if
they
need
one
in
that
area.
But
you
know
I'll
ask
engineering
to
follow
up
on
how
distance
from
other
poles
is
considered.
K
J
So
in
our
just
so
you
know
we
have
a
a
lighting
plan
for
the
city,
one
of
the
requirements,
I'm
not
sure
what,
if
your
neighborhood
has
decorative
street
pools,
but
you
know
one
of
the
things
our
design
guidelines
do.
Is
we
try
to
prioritize
the
location
of
where
these
facilities
are
placed
and
are?
We
would
prefer
it
be
placed
on
existing
structures?
J
What
we're
finding
are
a
lot
of
existing
structures
are
not
suitable
to
put
the
small
cell
facilities
on
either
the
polls
can't
withstand
like
the
structural
amount,
the
structural
analysis,
they
don't
pass
those
tests
or
it's
you
know
extremely
expensive
if
it's
a
director
of
light
pole
or
possibly,
not
even
possible
because
of
the
design.
So
I
think
so
far
about
90
of
the
polls
that
have
been
reviewed
or
the
facilities
that
have
been
reviewed
are
actually
free-standing
polls
where
they
don't.
B
E
That
would
that
be
theoretically
possible,
though,
and
if
they
for
them
to
be
combined
with
the
street
light
and
a
small
cell
tower,
and
if
the
answer
is
yes,
could
there
be
a
way
that
the
city
requests
that
rather
than
add
a
new
pole,
the
wireless
carrier
put
their
pole
where
an
existing
street
light
pole
is
and
just
replace
it
and
then
put
the
light
back
on.
Or
is
there
some
technical
reason
that
doesn't
work
or.
J
It
it
really
depends
on
the
light,
so
we
work
public
utilities,
you
know,
runs
the
street
lighting
and
they
work
very
closely
in
reviewing
these
applications.
They
work
with
engineering
and
I
can't
say
it's
not
impossible,
but
I
think
we
found
it
can
be
fairly
difficult.
J
J
So
when
you
combine
the
small
cell
facility
in
a
street
light,
you
actually
have
to
put
like
either
one
or
two
more
structures
in
the
right
of
way,
because
it
can't
be
incorporated
into
the
pole
of
a
street
light
and
that
can
be
really
difficult,
particularly
in
residential
areas,
where
we're
not
trying
to
clutter
the
right
of
way
with
like
numerous
utility
boxes
and
and
meters.
J
I
think
there's
a
policy
consideration
there.
If
we
want
to
more
strongly
require
carriers
to
look
to
incorporate
with
existing
structures.
B
Kimberly,
I
so
I'm
trying
to
think
back
a
couple
years
ago
when
the
council
considered
the
design
standards
and
it
seems
like
we
went
through
a
lot
of
work
to
try
to
to
try
to
make
sure
that
these
things
would
be
attached
to
like
existing
things,
and
that
you
know
there
were
these
like
aesthetic
details
and
but
then
you
know
we
find
out
that,
like
they
can't
really
be
attached
to
most
polls.
They
have
to
be,
you
know,
freestanding
I
mean.
B
J
J
The
existing
infrastructure
just
might
not
be
structurally
suitable.
So
I
think
that
you
know
the
design
guidelines
are
valuable
and
they
still
govern
the
freestanding
polls
and-
and,
like
I
said
you
know,
maybe
we
should
reconsider
whether
or
not
we
need
to
do
more
to
push
these
on
on
to
existing
structures.
J
I
don't
think
the
time
was
wasted.
I
think
it's
just
on
a
location
by
location,
review.
M
Thanks
kimberly,
mr
chair,
I
would
wholeheartedly
agree
that
we
need
to
revisit
that,
because
our
discussions
before
we're
very
much
focused
on
integrating
them
into
likes
yeah,
and
I
understand
that
they're
going
to
put
some
pushback
about
the
structural
integrity
of
some
lights
but
you're
putting
in
a
freestanding
pole.
M
I
cannot
believe
that
it
is
that
much
more
difficult
or
expensive
to
incorporate
something
together.
I
get
that
there's
a
power
difference
in
the
power
needed
that
sort
of
thing,
but
I
guess
I'm
sort
of
tainted
a
little
bit
kim,
and
you
know
this
already,
I'm
tainted
by
some
of
the
carriers
and
their
disregard
for
the
city
in
previous
experiences,
where
they,
in
my
personal
opinion,
have
gone
out
of
their
way,
not
to
do
these
things
and
to
try
not
to
to
save
their
money
at
the
expense
of
the
things
that
we're
talking
about.
M
So
if
we
have
the
ability
to
bolster
our
standards,
because
I
would
love
to
see
us
go
more
pedestrian
level
street
lighting
incorporated
into
these
polls,
I
think
we
need
to
pursue
that.
Personally,
mr
chair.
B
B
I
think
I
tried
to
ask
you
this
a
couple
months
ago,
but
I
remember
very
clearly
that
one
of
these
things
that
we
were
talking
about
that
we
could
impose
a
fine,
but
that
it
was
like
a
one-time
fine
and
that
the
fine
was
like
so
nominal
that
many
carriers
just
chose
to
pay.
The
fine,
as
opposed
to
like,
is
the
cost
of
doing
business.
Am
I
conflating
5g
with
some
other
franchises
or.
J
Possibly
I
don't
remember
that
exact
discussion
we
did
put
in
the
ordinance
for
the
master
license
master
license
agreements
that
if,
if
there
was
a
default
that
wasn't
cured
that
we
had
the
right
to
charge
a
carrier
a
hundred
dollars
a
day
until
it's
cured,
we
haven't
had
to
use
that,
like
I
said,
we
haven't,
had
issues
with
the
small
cell
providers.
J
B
Right,
but
that's
only
if
they
then
like
subsequently
come
back
and
apply
for
more
right
if
they,
if
they
don't
like
the
permit,
that
they.
J
B
Okay,
there
we
also
did
when
the
council
was
in
dc,
like
back
in
march,
which
you
know
like
10
years
ago.
We
were
talking
to
our
congressional
delegation
about
this,
and
our
lobbyists
in
dc
was
explaining
too
that
that
the
fcc
rollout
of
additional
guidelines
would
further
erode
municipalities,
ability
to
find
and
impose
standards.
J
I
don't
think
I've
seen
another
fcc
order
since
last
september.
Okay,
that
is
that's
specific
to
small
cells,
but
I
think
the
trend
that
they're
citing
is
accurate,
that
each
successive
statement
further
arose.
Cities
abilities
to
regulate
these
at
all.
B
B
J
And
truthfully,
I
think
that
some
in
the
city
think
that
the
freestanding
poll
is
preferable
to
incorporating
it
into
an
existing
structure.
The
designs
tend
to
be
really
sleek.
Everything
is
incorporated
into
the
pole.
You
know
they
tend
to
blend
in
pretty
well.
So
I
think
that
that
there's
probably
differences
of
opinion
as
to
whether
or
not
you'd
rather
see
more
polls
or
more
integration.
B
Yeah
sleek
like
a
smokestack,
okay,
well
yeah.
I
think,
but
there.
J
B
Okay
yeah,
I
guess
I
just
like-
have
a
very
different
memory
of
what
what
I
thought
that
we
imposed
and
what
I'm
seeing
in
person,
which
is
entirely
possible,
because
there
was
quite
a
long
delay
between
the
discussion
that
we
had
about
it
and
then,
when
they
were
actually
like
yeah
yeah.
So
councilmember
johnson.
M
Mr
chair,
I
I
think
they're
following
design
guidelines.
You
can
clearly
see
the
design
of
the
pole
matches.
What
we're
talking
about.
My
my
concern
is
that
I
think
I
have
a
desire
at
least
city-wide
to
have
more
pedestrian
level
lighting,
which
means
more
pulse,
and
if
we
have
these
every
300
feet
500
feet
and
it
could.
M
Multiple
per
block,
theoretically
plus
say
the
street
level
poles
plus
a
pedestrian
pole.
You
get
a
sense
of
sort
of
what
a
neighbor
is
going
to
look
like
pretty
quickly,
and
so
that's
my
concern
is
that
proliferation
uphold
without
integrating
with
multiple
uses
is
not
going
to
lead
to.
I
think
the
aesthetics
anybody
wants,
at
least
in
my
opinion,
that's
where
I'm
I'm
concerned
about
the
reticence
and
I
may
be
minimizing
kimberly.
M
So
please
forgive
me
the
difficulties
of
integrating
together,
but
I
gotta
believe
we
could
take
high
high
definition
photos
of
of
planets
in
our
solar
system,
and
I
can't
find
a
way
to
get
decent
power
sources
to
a
poll.
J
We'll
you
know
see
what
the
right
next
step
is:
if
it's
to
have
a
conversation
with
you
guys
or
make
a
different
proposal
or
see
how
we
want
to
pursue
it.
E
And
it
counts
mono.
I
think
we
should
think
a
little
outside
of
the
box
too.
Maybe
we
actually
have
some
contract
with
the
wireless
carriers
that
they
pay
for
the
power
and
we
reimburse
them
or
something
so
that
it's
the
same
power
source.
We
don't
need
to
put
a
new
meter
or
box.
I
don't
know
if
that
works.
Obviously
there's
a
technical
issue.
Our.
J
J
E
L
Can
I
add
something
of
course,
in
street
lights,
the
way
rocky
mountain
power
works
just
for
information
is
if
it's
a
street
light
dedicated
to
lighting
up
the
street.
There
is
no
meter
drop
for
that
light.
It's
a
direct
connection
and
they
charge
us
a
per
monthly
fee.
If
it's
a
pedestrian
light,
then
they
set
a
meter,
so
the
street
lights
actually
do
not
have
meters
for
them.
So
there's
no
sharing
of
that.
L
B
Okay,
I
I
just
have
one
more
like
area
of
questioning,
which
is
about
notice
requirements,
so
so
I've
had
a
lot
of
residents.
Contact
me
that
talk
about
either
lack
of
notice
and-
and
my
my
misunderstanding-
and
I
don't
know
if
other
council
members
know
this-
is
that,
like
the
city,
doesn't
we're
not
required
to
provide
notice
that
this
is
happening?
B
The
companies
who
are
installing
them
are
supposed
to
let
the
neighborhood
know
and
that's
the
case
with
google
fiber
and
all
this
other
stuff,
and
I
I
always
just
assumed
that
there
was
an
ordinance
of
when
they
asked
for
a
permit
that
either
that
that
the
city
would
be
the
one
to
get
the
notice
out,
because
then
we
would
know
that
no,
it
was
actually
happening,
but
there
have
been
so
many
projects
that
have
happened
in
my
neighborhood
between
the
polls
and
google
fiber,
where
there
really
isn't
any
notice,
I
mean
the
notice
is
that,
like
there
are
cones
there
and
then
the
next
morning,
there's
construction
there.
J
B
J
We
know
that
maybe
that's
not
always
considered
sufficient
by
a
property
owner.
B
Yeah,
it's
not
so
can
the
council,
I
mean
what
would
that
look
like
if
the
council
wanted
to
create
sort
of
a
uniform
notice
for
any
anything
that
is
related
to
upgrades
to
public
service
providers
or
public
utility
providers
that
they
have
to
give
notice,
and
then
it
prescribed
like
when
notice
has
to
go
out
and
what
kind
of
notice
it
has
to
be
like?
J
Sure
we've,
you
know,
I've
talked
with
engineering
a
little
bit
about
this
and
I
don't
know
if
matt
wants
to
weigh
in,
because
that
is
one
of
the
more
common
complaints
that
we're
hearing
is
that
they
didn't
get
noticed.
We
have
to
treat
similarly
situated
users
of
the
right-of-way.
Similarly,
so
it
can't
be
an
extra
burden
put
just
on
small
cell
facilities,
talk
about
different
ways
to
require,
or
maybe
track
whether
or
not
permit
holders
are
giving
notice.
J
You
know
there's
a
couple
of
different
things
that
I've
that
I
thought
of
you
know
hayes.
Civil
enforcement
takes,
puts
notices
on
the
door
and
takes
pictures
of
it
with
the
address
so
that
they
know
that
it's
been
posted.
J
B
So
how
do
we
get?
I
would
like
to
do
that.
I
don't
know
if
other
council
members
are.
I
think
we
have
to
have
several
of
us
express
interest
in
order
to
like
move
forward
with
starting
that
ordinance.
But
I
would
ask
that
if
other
council
members
are
having
this
problem
in
their
districts
or
if
you
anticipate
that
this
will
be
a
problem
that
that
we
let
the
administration
know
now,
so
that
they
can
start
working
on
an
ordinance
for
our
consideration.
E
I
have
heard
a
lot
of
constituent
input
about
the
global
fiber,
less
so
about
small
cell,
but
just
that
they
weren't
aware
that
their
you
know
the
street
wasn't
going
to
be
available
for
parking,
or
things
like
that.
So
I
would
be
interested
in
getting
as
much
information
as
early
as
possible
to
residents
so.
H
Too,
my
constituents
are
concerned
about
well,
some
of
them
are
concerned
about
the
procedures
of
you,
know
the
disruption
and
the
or
the
public
right
of
way
they
feel
like
they
were
not
a
fight.
So
now
I've
said
they're,
gonna
use,
sidewalk
or
there's
a
lot
of
construction
or
the
street
is
shot
yeah
or
whatever
stuff
like
that
and
and
then
just
regular
today.
H
You
know
some
of
the
workers,
not
not
being
you
know,
super
nice
to
neighbors,
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
but
that's
something
that
we
can't
really
control,
but
we
can
learn
more
about
that
stuff.
J
Tell
you
there's
been
an
increased
civic
engagement
push
as
of
today.
Actually
the
website,
with
all
the
facts
about
small
cells,
has
been
updated
to
be
maybe
a
little
bit
more
of
an
accessible
language
and
incorporate
more
information
based
on
feedback
we've
gotten.
There
have
been
very
few
actually
formal
complaints.
J
I
know
one
at
least
one
or
two
have
come
in
to
chris
directly
into
my
streets
and
liz.
Bueller
is
here,
I
don't
know
if
she
wants
to
chime
in,
but
into
my
streets.
I
think
there's
only
been
like
five
complaints
and
then
we've
had
we've
had
a
couple
of
one-off
complaints
that
are
that
are
not
related
to
a
specific
site,
but
more
asking
for,
like
a
general
moratorium
on
all
small
cells
for
for
a
couple
of
different
reasons,
usually
related
to
safety.
B
Yeah,
I
I
think,
though,
that
residents
think
that
when
they
send
us
an
email
that
that
is
an
official
complaint
because
and
and
then
a
lot
of
times
like
my
response
to
their
email-
is
that
there's
not
an
ordinance
for
me
to
point
to
that
says
that
they
violated
it.
So
I
don't
you
know
so.
B
J
Maybe
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
talk
about
this
right
now,
but
what
do
you
want
that?
To
accomplish
just
a
some
kind
of
prediction?
You
know
before
installation
a
number
of
days
notice
that
there's
going
to
be
work
and
what's
being
installed.
B
Yeah
and
I
think
we
could
set
forth
like
the
manner
in
which
the
notice
has
to
be
provided
because
it
sounds
like
different
companies
are
doing
different
things
and
you
know
a
lot
of
neighbors.
You
know
swear
that
like
they
aren't
getting
noticed
until
like
it's
literally
happening
and-
and
I
was
like
well,
you
know
it's-
maybe
they
didn't
know.
B
Maybe
they
didn't
see
this
and
then
they
didn't
see
that
and
then
it
happened
twice
on
my
street
and
like
the
sign
that
was
put
up
of
the
company
doing
the
work
was
put
up
like
after
the
project
was
done
and
like
the
only
notice
that
we
got
with
these
cones
that
were
in
the
road.
B
But
like
I
you
know,
I
don't
know
if
they're
going
to
come
from
the
trees
or
whatever
I'm
just
like
okay,
there's
cones
there
and
then
the
next
morning,
they're
like
they're
like
sawing
into
the
road,
and
I
mean
it
didn't
and
they
you
know
they
had
to
come
on
to
my
property,
a
couple
of
times
which
hasn't
been
that
big
of
a
deal.
But
I
know
that
for
other
residents
them
coming
onto
their
property
has
been
really
destructive
and
really
disruptive
for
them.
E
Romano,
I
think,
along
with
the
noticing
it's
like
who
gets
noticed,
because
I
believe
that,
for
at
least
when
google
fiber
went
in,
I
got
noticed
when
it
was
happening
right
in
front
of
my
house,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
the
residents
around
the
corner
did
until
it
was
happening
right
in
front
of
their
house.
So
it
you
know,
might
be
just
around
the
corner
for
them,
but
they're
still
impacted
by
the
street
closure
like
that.
So
just
the
information
making
sure
it's
getting
to
everyone.
E
B
B
Oh
good,
to
see
you
too,
okay,
four
is
excuse
me
agenda.
Item
number.
Four
is
an
ordinance
about
budget
amendment
number
one
for
fiscal
year,
2020
2021
and
with
us
we
have
ben
ludke
from
the
city
council
office,
mary
beth
thompson,
the
chief
financial
officer
and
brian
butler.
The
airport
finance
director
also
available
for
questions
is
tony
milner
from
the
hand,
policy
and
program
or
the
hand
policy
program
manager.
F
N
The
issue
we
had
at
the
airport
is:
we
did
not
have
sufficient
time
to
notify
the
airlines
our
own
advisory
board,
as
well
as
the
administration
on
how
we
plan
to
utilize.
The
cares
act,
grant
revenue
and
our
fiscal
year
21
budget.
So
this
budget
amendment
has
no
expenditures
tied
to
it.
It's
strictly
a
revenue
budget
amendment
and
it's
more
for
your
informational
purposes.
N
Only
the
airport
has
determined
to
utilize
80
percent
of
this
grant,
which
we
are
supposed
to
use
on
reimbursable
operating
expenses
such
as
payroll,
snow
removal,
things
to
that
nature
and
request
reimbursement.
N
If
something
happens
in
the
terminal
such
as
you
know,
one
of
our
terminal
staff
directing
passenger
traffic,
the
airlines
will
ultimately
pay
70
of
those
costs
and
it's
based
on
the
square
footage.
The
airport
owns
about
30
of
the
square
footage
along
with
kind
of
the
restaurants
and
other
businesses
that
operate
at
the
airport.
N
If
anything
happens
out
kind
of
in
the
parking
garage
or
economy
lot,
the
airlines
aren't
going
to
pay
for
any
of
those
costs
because
we
have
other
revenue
sources.
So
as
we
implemented
this
cares
act.
We
always
go
through
and
figure
out
what
are
our
operating
expenses
for
the
coming
fiscal
year
and
then
we
come
up
with
a
fee
to
charge
the
airlines
to
land
an
airplane
and
to
rent
space
out
in
the
terminal.
N
When
we
originally
proposed
our
budget
to
the
city
council,
our
proposal
ending
fee
was
going
to
be
six
dollars
and
eight
cents
for
the
airlines
for
every
thousand
pounds
that
they
landed.
N
That
equated
to
about
58.4
million
dollars
when
we're
able
to
allocate
kind
of
the
cares
act
and
what
we
did
is
we
did
a
five-year
weighted
average
of
where
the
expenses
are
typically
spent
about.
31
of
our
expenses
are
spent
on
the
air
field,
so
we
are
going
to
apply
31
of
this
grant
to
offset
airfield
costs,
and
so
what
that
allows
us
to
do
is
it
allows
us
to
reduce
the
landing
fee.
We
were
going
to
charge
the
airlines
to
3.77
or
we're
only
making
them
pay
us
36.2
million.
N
N
N
I
think
everyone's
seen
the
dramatic
effects
of
coven
19
and
we're
trying
to
bridge
the
gap
to
where
there's
sufficient
passenger
traffic
and
airlines
have
the
cash
flow
to
be
able
to
pay
these
increase
costs
at
the
airport.
So
with
that,
I
would
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
K
Is
this
just
a
one
year
and
do
we
renew
this
any
fees
every
year.
N
N
But
at
that
time
these
funds
would
be
exhausted
and
then
the
airlines
would
not
get
any
subsidies
on
their
landing
fees
or
terminal
rents.
N
B
Councilmember
voldemort
did
you
have
a
question?
Okay,
any
other
questions.
B
A
Council,
chair
wharton,
I
also
wanted
to
make
the
council
members
aware
that
the
doj
grant
did
not
go
on
a
consent
agenda
and
came
directly
through
a
budget
amendment
because
of
the
what
the
nature
of
this
funding
and
us
receiving
the
funding.
I
didn't
want
to
bog
it
down
with
a
consent
agenda
and
a
budget
amendment.
A
So,
as
we
were
doing
this
for
the
airport,
we
decided
just
to
include
it
on
a
budget
amendment
and
not
run
it
through
a
council
consent
agenda
as
well
as
just
to
note,
we
will
probably
be
coming
back
with
smaller
budget
amendments
as
grants
and
additional
funding
come
available.
So
it's
easier
for
you
to
make
decisions.
Instead
of
coming
with
really
large
budget
amendments,
we
can
get
through
them
in
a
quicker
amount
of
time.
B
Thank
you,
okay,
we'll
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
agenda
item
number
five,
which
is
capital,
improve
improvement
program
projects.
B
And
what
with
us,
we've
got
ben
ludke
from
the
council
office
dan
rip
from
hand
and
kelly
ruiz
and
the
capital
improvements
program,
specialist.
F
F
F
F
F
F
So,
mr
chair,
as
I
said
at
the
beginning,
we
can
open
it
up
for
policy
questions
from
council
members
or
we
could
ask
the
administration
to
go
through
the
projects
on
the
funding
log
and
give
a
summary.
It's
helpful
for
staff
to
hear
the
council's
questions
on
those
individual
projects,
as
well
as
any
policy
questions.
So
we
can
return
at
the
next
meeting
on
august
11th
with
responses.
C
B
Questions
before
we
go
on
sorry
excuse
me
before
we
start
going
to
the
list.
Okay,.
F
L
L
L
L
L
In
the
spirit
of
cooperation,
one
of
the
expectations
udot
has
from
the
municipalities
is
when
they
negotiate
with
up
to
update,
fix
or
repair
their
crossings.
That
expectation
is
the
city
itself
repairs.
The
approaches
to
the
crossings,
perfect
example,
is
right.
Now
we
are
paying,
for
the
approaches
are
to
remove
up,
is
paying
or
move
the
rails
on.
Fourth
south
just
west
of
redwood
road
and
the
city
is
paying
to
fill
that
in
with
asphalt
to
make
it
a
drivable
crossing.
So
it's
a
small
dollar
amount.
L
L
The
fourth
item
is
bridge
preservation,
along
with
taking
care
of
the
three
bridges
that
we
have
that
are
in
really
poor
shape.
We
are
creating
a
bridge
program.
Udot
on
every
two
years,
inspects
our
23
road
bridges.
They
do
not
inspect
our
bridges
that
are
less
than
20
foot
20
feet.
They
do
not
inspect
our
pedestrian
bridges
and
so
we're
putting
a
comprehensive
bridge
program
together.
L
We
do
spend
all
this
money
and
but
it's
more
reactive,
but
we
want
to
be
more
proactive
on
our
bridges,
so
this
funding
is
used
more
for
the
repairs
and
the
preservation
of
our
existing
bridges
to
keep
them
from
dropping
to
the
point
where
we
have
to
fully
replace
the
bridges
and
then
the
last
one
I
had
the
lowest
priority.
One
is
our
second
south
bridge.
This
is
our
lowest
scoring
bridge.
The
way
udot
manages
the
the
inventory,
our
bridges
and
they
score
the
bridges
and
they
use
what
they
call
a
health
index.
L
L
So
that's
why
it's
the
lowest
priority,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
to
keep
putting
that
in
as
a
request.
Just
because
we
know
this
bridge
is
coming
and
we
know
we're
going
to
need
to
replace
it,
and
I
don't
want
to
be
having
to
come
to
council
saying
the
bridge
fell
in
yesterday.
I
need
a
bunch
of
money
today.
L
Now,
on
this
bridge,
we
have
identified
2.3
million
of
impact
fees
to
use
on
this
bridge
and
that's
not
exactly
a
fund
that
we
can
use
through
some
additional
vetting.
We
realize
that
those
that
funding
isn't
necessarily
available
for
the
bridge,
because
we
are
not
expanding
it,
we're
just
replacing
with
existing.
So
it's
even
though
this
is
on
the
list.
We
do
probably
want
to
eliminate
it
off
of
this
year's
discussion
and
it'll
be
back
on
next
year's,
but
we
do
want
to
eliminate
it
from
this
year's
budget
discussion.
H
Matt,
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
real
quick
yesterday,
so
on
the
200
south
bridge,
I
recognize
you
saying
just
to
talk
about
impact
fees
a
little
bit
if
you
were
to
redo
like
the
sidewalks
or,
if
there
needed
to
be,
you
know
something
else
done
to
it.
Would
it
then,
because
it's
not
just
like
maintaining
it,
but
it
maybe
you
would
be
adding.
H
L
L
You
use
the
outer
lanes
to
create
bike
lanes,
so
those
bike
lanes
would
qualify
for
impact
fees,
but
it'd
be
like
one
two
three
to
five
percent
of
the
project,
so
maybe
50
000
would
be
how
much
it
would
qualify,
but
we
would
need
the
bridge
beyond
taxi
being
part
of
the
impact
speed
plan
for
us
to
be
able
to
use
any
funds
on
it.
H
L
H
It
okay.
My
other
question
was
on
the
bridge
preservation
program.
I
have
two
questions
there.
How
far
will
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
go.
L
The
last
bridge
surfacing
we
did
was
about
150
thousand
dollars
to
take
and
use
a
polyurethane
membrane
to
put
on
top
to
help
with
the
wear
surface,
to
keep
the
bridge
from
hold
up
the
driving
surface
of
the
bridge.
So
we
could
probably
300
000
would
probably
help
us,
depending
on
the
repair
or
the
preservation
activity,
I'll,
be
able
to
address
a
couple
of
bridges.
A
K
Thanks
matt
question:
all
of
the
same
questions
amy
asked
about
on
the
street
improvements
the
two
million
dollars
here.
How
many
miles
of
road
improvement?
Does
that
equate
to.
L
A
L
Playing
with
is
12
feet
wide
sorry.
So
if
you
third
west
is
a
perfect
example,
it's
five
lanes
wide
and
plus
there's
two
shoulders.
We
count
as
lanes.
So
it's
actually
seven
lanes
of
road
so
times
that
per
mile
or
times
five
hundred
thousand
per
lane
mile
and
that's
what
we're
using
as
our
estimate
for
cost.
L
This
one,
hopefully
we
won't-
have
to
use
on
a
300
west
project.
The
two,
the
two
million
is
to
augment
other
projects
that
we
have
hopper
right
now,.
K
L
K
Okay
and
the
second
question
about
the
bridge
going
over
200
is:
do
we
shut
down
the
road
or
do
we
are
we
doing
like
the
rapid
bridge
replacement
like
we
did
over
or
215.
L
Second,
south,
that
would
be
a
bridge.
A
road
closure
for
that
650
north
is
a
much
higher
used
road
and
and
we
would
have
to
figure
out
how
to
build
that
and
keep
traffic
going.
At
the
same
time,
we
don't
internally
have
the
ability
to
build
bridges
to
the
side,
like
udot,
doesn't
move
them
into
place.
I
think
all
three
bridges
that
we
have
were
all
built
differently,
so
we
have
that
conundrum
of
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
replace
the
bridge
when
all
three
substructures
are
vastly
different
from
each
other.
B
O
O
So,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
the
facilities
plan.
You
may
all
be
familiar
most
of
you
familiar
with
that
the
facilities
division
did
a
plan
that
it's
not
actually
a
plan.
It's
a
live
database
of
our
capital
assets
and
their
accumulated
accumulated
deferred
capital
renewal.
It's
often
called
cap,
deferred
maintenance
and
categorized
all
those
projects
into
six
different
categories.
O
So
as
as
those
of
you
who
know
this,
this
facility
condition
index
know
that
it
can
also
change
on
a
dime.
In
fact,
today
we
learned
that
there
is
another
large
project
that
just
popped
up.
That
is
considered
an
emergency
project
that
we
will
be
shifting
funding
to
it's
all
capital
renewal
funding,
but
it's
an
example
of
how
we
have
to
be
flexible
and
move
money
around
to
a
project
that
may
pop
up
on
the
list
as
a
higher
priority.
O
Suddenly,
if
it
fails
so
some
of
the
the
listing
that
we
have
in
the
funding
log
is
already
out
of
date,
because
a
couple
different
reasons,
one
a
ballpark
project-
has
popped
up
as
a
higher
priority
that
we
need
to
fund
two.
The
county
has
not
invested
in
their
portion
of
capital
as
the
highest
level.
We
thought
so
we
will
not
need
to
spend
quite
as
much
money
with
them.
They've
had
some
changes
to
their
capital
program,
which
will
therefore
change
our
capital
program
when
it
comes
to
the
facilities
that
we
share
renewal.
O
For
so
this
is
a
a
very
dynamic
process
for
us,
and
so
we
do
is
we
ask
for
priority
one
in
this
case
some
priority
two
funding?
These
are
the
most
critical
projects
that
we
see
on
our
list
and
then
ask
for
some
leeway
that,
within
that
funding,
we
can
shift
to
those
within
those
two
categories
that
are
the
most
critical
at
the
time.
So
the
dollar
amount
for
each
project
may
change
slightly
as
the
projects
themselves
change.
O
To
put
this
in
perspective,
with
the
current
total
capital
renewal
that
we
need,
it
will
take
about.
3
million
annually
simply
to
stay
pace
with
our
deferred
capital.
It
would
take
an
investment
of
6.8
per
year
to
start
to
make
a
dent
in
our
over
all
facility
condition
index
and
reduce
the
liability
of
deferred
capital
renewal
on
all
of
the
city
properties.
O
So
the
2.5
we're
asking
for
this
year
again
is
these
are
the
most
emergent
projects
that
we
can
identify
and
ones
we
are
contractually
obligated
to,
and
this
is,
as
I
said,
a
very
dynamic
process
and
each
of
these
projects
is
analyzed
at
the
time
to
get
more
current
costs,
because
construction,
environment
design
may
change
things,
and
then
we
only
come
up
with
final
project
costs
very
close
to
when
we're
ready
to
pull
the
trigger,
which
makes
it
a
challenging
project
challenging
budget
to
manage
because
we're
trying
to
fit
in
as
many
projects
as
we
can
with
limited
funding
in
an
uncertain
design
and
construction
environment.
B
P
Council
chair,
this
is
kristen
riker
with
public
lands
and
ben.
I
believe
we're
the
next
on
the
list
here.
Yes
I'll
just
thank
you
I'll.
Just
go
ahead
and
jump
in
our
first
item.
Here
is
the
allen
park,
property
protection
planning
and
public
access,
and
this
is
a
request
for
450
000
to
include
fencing
lighting
and
irrigation
to
secure
and
protect
the
allen
park
property.
P
This
is
laid
out
on
your
form,
real.
Well
it's
to
stabilize
historic
buildings
and
artworks.
There
is
some
concern
that
some
of
the
buildings
could
collapse
and
we
hope
to
do
a
comprehensive
plan
for
the
park.
This
funding
would
also
cover
the
installation
of
a
public
pathway.
P
What
we
would
like
to
do
is
allow
the
public
to
come
into
the
park
and
we
have
used
some
funding
from
year-end
funds
to
allow
that
some
fencing
has
been
done.
However,
the
road
is
in
quite
poor
condition
right
now
and
there
are
some
slipping
hazards,
so
we
would
be
looking
to
that
and
the
consultant
services
is
also
included
to
provide
a
technical
analysis
of
what's
needed
in
the
park.
P
Awesome,
the
second
one
is
the
parks,
critical
asset
renewal,
and
this
is
a
different
request
for
us.
This
year,
parks
has
many
amenities
that
are
either
that
are
in
in
late
stages
of
their
life.
We
currently
have
some
that
are
out
of
service
those
happen
to
be
in
cottonwood
park,
and
we
have
others
either
near
closure
or
they're
in
such
poor
consent
condition
that
they
are
discouraging
use
in
our
parks
in
attachment
10.
That
was
added
to
your
staff
report.
P
There
is
a
condition
assessment
and
that
was
done
by
our
parks
team
and
they
went
out
last
winter
and
looked
at
areas
of
their
specialty
and
they
identified
they
looked
at,
for
example,
every
park
playground
and
they
listed
the
top
10
in
worst
condition
and
prioritized
those,
and
so,
if
you
have
a
chance
to
look
at
that,
you
can
see-
and
this
is
this-
is
from
staff
looking
at
everything
and
understanding
what's
needing
repair
and
what
is
currently
not
being
used,
because
it's
in
disrepair
so
anyway,
there's
quite
a
few
different
structures
on
the
list,
because
this
was
done
in-house.
P
However,
we
do
have
that
listed
in
the
capital
facilities
plan
in
a
general
sense
for
replacement
of
a
playground,
for
example,
or
the
repair
of
fencing
in
a
ball
field.
P
Let's
see
so,
we
have
listed
our
top
priorities
here.
Irrigation
systems
at
1200,
east
islands
and
warm
springs
park.
P
The
pavilions
at
cottonwood
park
are,
we
have
several
that
have
been
taken
out
just
because
they
were
dangerous
and
the
pavilions
at
poplar
park,
paving
surfaces
at
memory,
grove
park,
the
basketball
cup
court
at
liberty,
park,
poplar
grove
park,
tennis
courts
at
poplar
grove
park
and
the
playground
at
pioneer
park
and
topher
park,
and
since
we
have
not
costed
out
or
done
an
estimate
of
all
of
these
projects,
we
don't
know
how
many
of
these
will
be
able
to
fund
with
this
amount,
and
it's
it's.
P
It's
kind
of
like
a
deferred
maintenance
fund
that
we
look
at
what
are
our
greatest
needs
right
now
in
our
system
and
prioritize
that
way,
we
don't
always
know
what
is
going
to
be
breaking
down
or
no
longer
in
functional
use.
So
that's
our
park
asset
renewal
request.
Q
D
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
raise
a
policy
issue
for
the
council,
this,
the
flexibility
that
is
extended
in
this
parks,
funding
that
is
pooled
or
public
public
services.
Funding
that
is
pooled
is
is
unusual
and
it
is,
as
lauren
is,
explaining
kind
of
a
moving
target.
D
One
thing
that
the
council
has
emphasized
over
the
past
year
or
so
or
several
months
is
the
east
west
equity
and
also
lately
the
investment
in
communities
of
color,
and
I
don't
know
how
that
is,
that
comes
into
play
when
you
are
providing
pooled
funding.
So
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
come
back
to
that
at
some
point
and
do
some
intent
or
if,
if
perhaps
that's,
not
a,
not
a
concern,
because
this
is
mostly
maintenance
just
raising
for
food
for
thought,.
B
F
A
F
B
M
P
We'd
be
happy
to
put
together
a
log
of
all
of
the
deferred
maintenance
that
we've
done
throughout
the
city
in
past
years.
If,
if
that's
something
you'd
be
interested
in
looking
at,
and
you
can't
always
decide
where
the
funding
goes,
because
you
don't
always
know
where
the
projects
are
going
to
be,
that
need
repair
and
I'll.
P
Just
use
an
example
of
the
10th
east
senior
center,
retaining
wall,
we've
known
that
that's
a
problem
for
a
while,
but
it
hasn't
been
funded
for
so
long,
and
this
is
something
that
we
would
have
funded
a
long
time
ago,
because
it
is
a
dangerous
item
in
our
inventory.
Is
that
retaining
wall?
Sometimes
our
constituent
bring
things
to
us.
For
example,
the
trail
in
memory
grove
that
we're
still
trying
to
repair
and
ended
up
using
some
funds
for
from
city
sidewalk
repairs
to
be
able
to
try
to
get
that
done.
But.
P
That's
the
path
exactly
we
do
have
funding
for
that.
We're
just
trying
to
get
a
contractor
to
help
us
out
on
that
one,
but
yeah.
We
try
really
hard
to
spread
the
funding
across
the
city
and
make
sure
that
all
of
our
parks
are
safe
and
welcoming
places,
and
I
think
that
I
think
you'll
see
that
if
you
take
a
look
at
our
log
and
we'd
be
happy
to
provide
that,
for
you.
B
Why
don't
you
provide
that
and
then
we
can
take
a
look
at
it
and
then,
if,
if
we
want
to
have
the
the
discussion
we
can
have
staff
set
that
up.
B
K
P
K
P
Yeah,
there
are
a
lot
of
needs
in
our
park
system.
The
infrastructure
is
old.
Generally,
we
replace
playgrounds
after
20
years
and
we
have
playgrounds
that
are
more
than
20
years
old.
P
P
When
you
have
these
structures
that
are
not
well
maintained
or
well
taken
care
of
parks,
struggles
and
in
large
part
because
of
our
infrastructure
is
aging,
and
if
some
of
our
infrastructure
were
updated,
I
think
parks
would
have
a
much
easier
time
maintaining
our
facilities
rather
than
band-aiding
a
lot
of
the
facilities
that
we
have
now.
K
So
I
would
just
maybe
recommend
that
we,
you
know
how
much
would
it
take
a
year
to
these
start,
making
some
headway
instead
of
just
slowly
drowning
with
our
parks.
You
know
marvel,
you
know,
upkeep.
P
Yeah
we
did
calculate
that
in
2017
in
our
capital
facilities
plan
and
let's
see
127.
P
P
We
have
restrooms
that
are
that
need
to
be
replaced
or
repaired,
basketball,
courts,
concession
stands
and
there's
so
many
structures
that
yeah
it
would
probably
take
about
12
million
every
year
and
it
wouldn't
end
it
would
it
keeps
going
because
you'll
have
additional
structures
that
need
to
be
replaced
after
10
years
right
now,
they're
in
great
condition,
but
10
years
from
now
they
might
be
well
used
or
in
disrepair.
K
Can
we,
mr
chair,
can
we
use
rda
type
funding
for
you
know
if
you're
going
to
do
some
upgrades
of
I
mean
this
is
quality
of
life
of
the
neighborhood.
I
The
rda
technically
legally
could
fund
some
parks
projects
and
has
in
the
past
it
would
have
to
be
part
of
the
project
area
plan
from
the
beginning
and
would
have
to
be
a
part
in
the
project
area.
So,
obviously,
not
all
city
parks
are
in
the
project
area.
The
the
other
complicating
point
I
wanted
to
point
out
is
that,
because
the
cip
budget
comes
from
the
general
fund,
parks
is
not
sort
of
considered
in
its
own
silo.
I
All
of
the
other
deferred
maintenance
that
goes
on
in
the
city,
whether
it's
city,
buildings
or
streets
streets,
is
actually
one
of
the
biggest
ones.
If
it's
a
structural
deficit
caused
by
using
one-time
money
for
ongoing
things,
that's
all
part
of
the
same
pot
that
has
to
be
balanced
each
year,
and
so
that's
why?
Even
though
we'd
love
to
have
sort
of
a
an
earmarked
funding
source
for
each
department
and
each
department's
needs
categories,
we
tend
not
to
do
it.
That
way,
we
have
some
small
earmarked
amount.
I
But
then
we
go
through
this
cip
process
every
year,
where
you
guys
evaluate
where
the
needs
where
the
needs
are
so
there's
an.
I
M
This
is
an
excellent
question.
It
goes
to
the
heart
of
how
we're
handling
our
parks
structure
and
funding
kristin.
I
don't
want
to
go
too
far
down
the
rabbit
hole,
but
I
know
you
all
are
looking
at
like
getting
some
outside
technical
assistance
in
this
matter.
Is
this
a
good
time
to
maybe
get
a
brief
sort
of
ease
around
that.
P
Sure
so
we
are
seeking
the
assistance
from
the
trust
for
public
lands
and
they
will
look
at
the
feasibility
of
of
and
and
funding
structures
that
could
be
available
to
the
city
to
fund,
specifically,
this
type
of
asset,
renewal
park,
property
acquisition
and
development,
and
so
we're
in
the
process
of
working
with
them.
The
mayor
has
agreed
to
allow
them
to
consider
us
as
a
potential
group
that
could
be
a
client
of
theirs.
P
They
do
this
work
pro
bono,
with
the
exception
of
the
feasibility
study
that
goes
out
to
the
constituents
and
that's
really
a
survey
once
they
get
that
information,
they
evaluate
the
political
will,
the
community
willingness
and
the
need
of
the
community
and
decide
if
something
and
can
be
put
on
a
ballot
for
the
public
to
decide
and
it
it
can
take
a
many
different
forms.
It
could
be
a
fee,
it
could
be
a
tax.
P
They
will
give
us
those
recommendations
of
what
that
would
look
like.
None
of
that's
been
determined
at
this
point
and
then
it
it
could
go
out
for
a
public
vote
and
and
that
could
offer
additional
funding
to
help
improve
our
park
system.
So
I'd
be
happy
to
keep
you
guys,
everybody
updated
on
the
progress
here
right
now.
The
ball
is
really
in
the
trust
for
public
lands
court
we're
waiting
for
a
meeting
with
them
to
understand
if
they
are
going
to
take
us
on
as
one
of
their
potential
clients.
I
Mr
chair,
I
just
I
have
a
little
extra
information
about
the
concept
of
attacks
versus
a
boat
just
because
utah
law
is
so
finicky
about
that.
We
we've
researched
that
a
little
bit
before
for
other
projects,
and
the
only
way
to
establish
a
tax
in
the
council
could
do
that
for
a
specific
purpose
is
for
the
council
to
vote
on
that,
not
the
voters.
I
If,
if
you
wanted
to
rely
on
the
voters
to
vote
on
something,
it
would
just
be
a
geo
bond,
which
is
one
time
so
obviously
state
law
could
change
between
now
and
whenever
I
think
a
lot
of
cities
are
experiencing
the
same
sort
of
conundrum,
and
so
but
utah
law
is
especially
specific
about.
I
B
Can
sorry
kristen
I
were
you
did
I
interrupt
you.
B
And
we
don't
get
a
lot
of
zap
money
for
our
parks
right
or
do
we
even
get
any.
P
So
every
10
years
we
can
put
in
for
a
project
for
the
zoo's
arts
and
parks
tax,
and
there
was
a
project
put
in
in
2016,
and
that
was
the
oak
hills,
tennis
center
we
actually
got
and-
and
that
was
close
to
a
million
dollars
not
quite
and
then
we
also
got
some
funding
25
000
for
the
bike
polo
program
at
jordan
park.
P
So
each
year
we
can
put
in
for
that
funding
or
I'm
sorry,
every
10
years
we
can
put
in
for
the
funding.
So
the
next
time
that
that
will
go
to
vote
is
in
2026.,
actually
the
vote's,
probably
2025,
and
then
the
funding
comes
available
in
2026.
B
A
B
But
like
we
don't
get
any
like,
I
think,
there's
a
perception
that
we,
like
every
city
in
the
county,
gets
like
a
portion
every
year
of
the
zap
money
and
that's
not
accurate
right.
I
B
But
isn't
that
just
for
or
sorry
that?
Okay,
that's
how
something
like
the
project
that
we
did
in
2016
got
selected.
Q
A
P
And
the
arts
portion
is
portioned
out
each
year,
which
I
think
is
where
some
of
the
confusion
comes
from.
B
P
Should
I
move
on
to
the
foothill
trails
or
do
that?
Okay?
So
the
third
and
last
project
request
is
the
foothill
trail
system
master
plan
high
priority
projects-
and
this
is
this
request-
is
for
565
000,
and
this
scope
includes
the
completion
of
shovel
ready
trail
projects
in
the
foothill
natural
area,
and
it
is
consistent
with
the
implementation
of
the
master
plan.
The
foothill
trials
master
plan
that
was
approved.
This
project
is
slated
to
include
dry
creek,
alternate
trail
and
foothill.
P
P
We
have
in
order
for
us
to
get
a
permit
to
complete
phase
two.
So
until
this
piece
happens,
we
will
not
be
able
to
continue
with
the
construction
of
the
foothill
trails
project,
but
if
this
is
funded,
this
would
complete
phase
one
of
the
foothill
trails
master
plan
and
it
would
include
the
majority
of
the
trail
system
improvement
recommendations
for
the
plan.
D
Mr
chair,
yes,
this
is
another
item
that
council
members
had
previously
raised
concern
about
just
in
terms
of
the
east
and
west
equity.
So
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
have
any
discussion
further
about
that
or
if
that
issue
is
resolved
to
the
council's
satisfaction.
P
For
phase
two:
yes,
because
the
foothill
trails
are
that
whole
area
is
not
owned
by
the
city.
Part
of
it
is
the
national
forest
service,
and
in
order
for
us
to
construct
trails
on
their
property,
we
need
an
environment,
environmental
analysis
completed
which
will
offer
us
the
permit
to
be
able
to
construct
trails
in
that
area.
D
Just
when
we
were
part
of
this
was
in
a
budget
opening
earlier
in
the
year
and
it
was
withdrawn
or
put
on
hold
council
members
raised
the
concern
that
that
we
could
have
a
systemic
inequity
here,
because
there
are
shovel
ready
projects
that
are
in
existence
and
those
all
happen
to
be
on
the
east
side.
D
Now,
that's
where
the
foothills
are.
So
that
makes
some
sense,
but
there
was
and
and
the
council
members
can
speak
to
it
if
they
still
have
a
concern.
But
there's
concern
that
we
didn't
have
a
way
to
maintain
some
of
the
trails
or
to
improve
some
of
the
trails
on
the
west
side.
So
it
was
another
one
of
those
systemic
equity
questions
that
was
raised
and
I'm
just
drawing
that
to
your
attention
in
case
you'd
like
to
discuss
it
further.
M
Mr
chair,
yes,
johnson
yeah,
I
mean
I'm
not
opposed
to
the
trail
system.
It's
an
important
piece
of
the
city.
I
am
wanting
to
make
sure
that
we
are
closely
monitoring
this
over
over
a
longer
period
of
time
consist
because
we'll
have
opportunities
like
allen
park,
which
is
an
expensive
acquisition
of
a
rare
piece
of
property
that
we
can't
replicate
anywhere
else
and
is
time
sensitive.
M
The
trails
are
something
that's
the
entire
city
and
is
a
rare
thing
we
have
to
deal
with.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
losing
track
of
these
things,
because
it's
a
lot
of
money
with
it
and
to
ensure
that
the
entire
city-
and
I'm
not
just
talking
about
west
19.
M
We
have
some
significant
needs
down
the
center
of
the
corridor
of
the
city
between
state
street
and
the
freeway,
particularly
that
we're
going
to
have
to
address.
So
I
don't
want
to
lose
track
of
it's,
not
a
dollar
to
dollar
something
across
east
and
west
in
the
city.
I
don't
think
that
fits
very
well,
but
I
do
think
we
have
to
be
very,
very
careful
about
not
relegating.
M
K
If
you
remember
back
a
few
months
ago,
about
10
years
ago,
we
had
the
discussion
about
the
trails
and
the
ftn,
so
we
have
access
from
west
side
all
the
way
to
the
trailheads
and
that
not
only
just
for
businesses,
but
also
for
access
to
the
zoo,
access
to
the
natural
history,
museum,
red,
butte
garden
and
these
trails,
so
that
they're,
not
just
for
people
who
get
their
mountain
bikes
on
the
trails.
But
they
get
the
mountain
bikes
across
the
city.
K
So
we
gotta
make
sure
that
when
we
talk
transportation
in
the
trails
we
we
link
the
two
together.
So
we're
not
just
having
segregated
trails
on
the
east
side
without
anyone
for
the
west
side
having
access
to
them,
because
that
was
a
big
that
was
one
of
the
push
of
the
ftn
system
was
to
get
the
people
from
the
west
side
to
get
to
use
these
trails.
E
Sure-
and
he
was
referring
to
some
comments
that
I
had
made
about-
concerns
about
the
jordan
river
trail
and
the
nine
line
trail
and
making
sure
that
we're
investing
in
some
of
those
urban
trails
that
run
through
the
west
side
as
well.
But
that
is
something
that
I
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
that
there
that
those
trails
are
well
maintained
right
now
ride
a
road
bike
down
to
jordan
river
trail,
you
gotta
be
really
careful
not
to
pop
tires.
E
So
I
I
think
making
sure
that
we
are
remembering
like
making
sure
that
we're
taking
inventory
of
those
very
few
trails
that
happen
on
the
west
side
and
and
keeping
those
in
consideration
as
we
decide
whether
or
not
the
additional
foothill
trails.
I
think
it's
important.
M
Well,
it's
mr
chair.
I
apologize
again
one
of
the
issues
we're
going
to
run
into
is
acquisition
of
new
park
with
impact
feeds
and
sort
of
a
simple
way
to
do
things
taking
older
parks
that
I'll
take
raging
water
as
an
example
of
an
old
park.
That's
not
currently
useful
in
any
way
it's
a
big
ticket
item,
but
we
can't
use
our
impact.
M
P
And
mr
chair,
if
I
could
add,
we
can
use
impact
fees
if
we
are
creating
new
services
for
city
residents,
and
so
that's
something
to
keep
in
mind
when
you're
looking
at
using
impact
fees
is
if,
if
there
is
a
new
service,
so
we
couldn't
replace
a
water
park
with
a
water
park,
but
we
could
replace
a
water
park
with
some
sort
of
new
service
for
the
west
side.
If
the
council
chose
to
do
that.
B
Okay,
all
right,
I
don't
want
to
cut
off
discussion
here,
but
we
we
need
to
get
through
the
transportation
items
and
then
do
we
have
an
update
on
racial
equity
and
policing
and
then,
if
we
want
to
have
time
for
any
any
break
before
our
formal
meeting,
we
have
to
move
really
quickly.
So
so
kristin.
B
And
you
have
a
closed
session.
Sorry,
oh
kristen,
thank
you
for
your
presentation.
Did
you
have
anything
else
on
trails.
B
R
Sure
yeah.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity.
As
you
know,
I
love
talking
about
transportation
projects.
So
the
first
item
is
for
safety
improvement.
R
This
is
one
of
the
most
requested
things
that
we
get
from.
Residents
is
requests
for
complaints
about
about
things
like
speeding
or
unsafe,
crosswalks
and
requests
to
make
them
to
make
them
better.
So
this
fund
often
goes
towards
spot
improvements
and
I
feel
like
we
have
a
pretty
good
history
of
spreading
the
love
around
the
city.
With
with
these
spot
improvements,
we
have
our
our
data.
Analytic
group
has
used
a
data-driven
process
to
analyze.
R
R
Are
things
like
the
the
hawk
beacons
which
are
the
more
expensive
ones
to
get
across,
like
multi-lane
busier
streets
like
at
14th,
west
and
six
north
one
just
went
in
or
21st
south
and
eighth
east,
where
one
was
put
in
last
last
year,
the
other
ones
that
are
fairly
effective
for
slightly
lower
volume
should
be
the
we
call
them
the
rrfbs
or
the
rapid
rectangular
flashing
beacons
and
those
are
the
ones
where
you
push
the
button
and
you
get
the
yellow
flashing
and
we've
we're
putting
in
quite
a
few
of
those
this
year
and
then
also
in
some
cases,
things
like
you
know,
bulb
house
or
pedestrian
refuge
islands.
R
So
an
example
is
out
by
raging
waters.
Actually,
a
crosswalk
there
at
about
1400
west
is
a
project
that's
going
in
this
year.
R
The
second
item
is
the
traffic
signal
and
intersection
upgrades,
so
that's
worn
out
traffic
signals
we
historically
get
through
cip
have
gotten
enough
funding
to
replace
two
to
three
per
year.
I
think
we
need
to
replace
around
10
per
year
in
order
to
replace
every
signal
every
50
years,
but
these
are
traffic
signals
like.
R
Like
the
span
wire
is
what
we
call
them,
where,
like
on
eight
south
and
fifth
east,
where
you
know
the
the
signals
are
still
hung
by
by
wires
instead
of
a
mast
arm
they're,
you
know,
so
they
you
know
sway
in
the
wind.
They
just
make
me
a
little
nervous,
so
we're
close
to
actually
having
all
of
those
swapped
out
right
in
the
next
couple
of
years
here,
hopefully
but
yeah.
So
we
listed
potential
candidates
for
improved
or
upgraded
traffic
sales.
R
That
also
includes
we've
start
we're
shifting
to
not
only
replacing
the
traffic
signal,
but
as
long
as
we're
out
there
doing
something
to
the
intersection.
We
also
want
to
look
and
do
an
analysis
of
what
else
we
can
do
to
make
it
more
safe
and
comfortable
for
pedestrians
and
cyclists.
R
So
the
third
item
is
the
complete
streets
and
urban
trails,
so
this
is
funding
for
for
projects.
A
lot
of
these
are:
are
our
bike
projects
so
helping
to
make
it
easier
to
get
around
the
city
on
a
bike
or
now
even
scooter
as
well?
As
you
know,
pedestrian
enhancements
so
sometimes
there's
overlap
with
the
complete
projects
and
the
the
safety
projects.
R
So
one
example
of
a
project
that
we
would
really
love
to
put
in
this
coming
year
is
a
protected
intersection
out
by
the
the
sorensen
center
on
california
and
ninth
west
salt
lake
city
did
one
of
the
first
protected
intersections
in
the
the
country
and
third
south
and
second
west
about
five
years
ago,
and
that
was
at
the
intersection
of
two
protected
bike
lanes.
R
We've
realized
that
you
don't
have
to
have
protected
bike
lanes
in
order
to
put
in
a
protected
intersection,
and
so
what
the
protected
intersection
does
is
it.
It
limits
the
amount
of
exposure
for
cyclists
and
pedestrians
when
crossing
a
busy
intersection
and
also
the
way
that
it
makes
the
drivers
turn
it
makes
it
so
that
it's
a
lot
easier
for
drivers
to
see
people
who
are
crossing
or
wanting
to
cross
the
intersection.
B
Great,
thank
you
john
appreciate
it.
Thanks
for
moving
through
those
items
quickly,
we're
now
on
to
agenda
item
number
seven,
which
is
a
board
appointment.
We
have
esther
jackson,
stowell
who's.
A
nominee
for
the
human
rights
commission
is
esther
with
us.
A
B
Good,
so
do
you
want
to
tell
us
just
a
little
bit
about
yourself
and
why
you're
interested
in
serving
on
the
human
rights
commission.
B
Sorry,
do
you
want
us
to,
did
I
skip
to
you,
we,
oh,
we
did.
I
totally
skipped
you,
I'm
sorry
about
that.
We
didn't
we
can.
I
didn't
realize
I
skipped
by
item
number
six.
Do
you
want
to
do
you
want
us
to
talk
to
you
right
now
or
do
you
want
to
wait?
20
more
minutes.
B
Okay:
let's
go
to
item
number
six:
sorry,
everybody
updates
on
racial
equity
and
policing.
We
have
lehua
weaver
from
the
council
office,
allison
roland
from
council
office
and
rick
rasmussen
from
the
police,
civilian
review
board.
P
So,
council,
members
of
the
several
projects
that
staff
has
noted
for
follow-up,
one
of
the
items
has
been
considering
some
ordinance
amendments
to
the
civilian
review
board.
Several
council
members,
through
discussions
in
may
and
june,
had
mentioned
that
you
may
be
interested
in.
A
Exploring
some
changes
and
we
thought
that,
starting
with
a
briefing
providing
just
basic
context
and
an
intro
to
the
board,
we
have
some
new
council
members
would
be
helpful.
And
then
we
have.
A
So
that
council
members
can
give
us
direction
in
the
attorney's
office
direction
on
how
to
move
forward
on
any
amendments
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
allison,
and
I
believe
that
katie
is
also
one
of
our
active
participants.
P
In
this
briefing,
because
she
and
her
staff
will
be
preparing
any
ordinance
amendments.
Q
Q
Information
crb
board
members,
then
we
could.
The
staff
would
be
happy
to
arrange
that
in
the
meantime,
we
do
have
the
staff
report
that
we
provided
and
oops
sorry
cat's
going
after
my
water
there's
a
attachment.
Two
of
that
is
the
full
argument,
the
city
ordinance
that
lays
out
the
parameters
of
the
crb.
As
it's
known,
I
will
do
a
quick
overview
and
then
we'll
just
look
for
your
direction
or
additional
questions
as
laid
out
in
ordinance.
Q
The
crb's
purpose
is
to
be
an
independent
mechanism
for
the
investigation,
rights
of
excessive
police
force
for
the
police
misconduct
and
it's
independent
in
the
sense
that
it's
independent
of
the
police
department.
Of
course,
it's
also
independent,
like
most
other
city
board,
of
direct
direction
from
elected
officials.
So
the
mission
is
to
of
the
crb
is
to
enhance
the
trust
between
the
police
department
and
the
community
that
it
serves.
Q
Q
They
can
serve
three
their
terms
and
may
be
reappointed
once
and
in
the
appointment
process.
In
ordinance,
balanced
community
representation
is
listed
as
a
goal.
To
quote
the
goal
of
providing
geographical
professional
laboratories.
Q
Is
essentially
to
have
a
city
employee
who
reports
the
human
resources
director
and
to
the
mayor
so
again
completely
in
the
department
this
is
entitled
to
participate
in
all
police
interviews
can
compel
witnesses
to
be
interviewed
and
has
access
to
the
evidence
collected
in
a
case,
including
evidence
that's
collected
from
by
outside
agencies
who
typically
investigate
police
use
of
force
matters
there's
also
an
independent
non-city
attorney
who's
provided
for
consultations
with
crv
members.
This
is
something
relatively
new
since
2016.
Q
the
review
process
itself
starts
with
a
complaint.
This
can
come
from
any
member
of
the
public
who
alleges
police
misconduct,
conduct
excuse
me
or
who
witnessed
an
incident
once
this
request
is
made.
Q
The
police
internal
affairs
begins
to
investigation
begins
to
happen,
can
also.
It
is
also
excuse
me
considered
for
an
investigation
by
the
full
board.
Something
to
note
is
that
police
officers
themselves
can
lodge
complaints
about
other
officers
and
also
that
complaints
from
the
public
or
from
any
other
source
for
that
matter
can
be
anonymous.
A
P
P
A
Q
Not
a
problem,
is
there
anything
I
should
repeat
how
would
you
know
right
if
you
have
questions
the
course
will
be
here
to
try
to
answer
them
so
I'll
continue
where
I
was
leaving
off,
which
was
the
police
department
and
all
other
city
officers
and
employees
are
required
by
ordinance
to
cooperate
with
the
crb
administrator
to
make
sure
that
the
board
gets
all
the
information
and
resources
that
are
necessary
for
its
reports.
Q
B
Yeah,
well,
we
we
have
rick
here.
Is
there
let's
see
council
members?
What
would
you
like
to
do?
Do
you
want
to
ask
some
questions
of
rick
right
now
and
maybe
have
another
follow-up
briefing
or
do
we
just
want
to
move
on
to
our
next
item.
B
B
K
No,
this
is
this
is
too
important
to
start,
so
we
should
move.
B
To
future
meeting,
okay,
rick
rasmussen,
I'm
sorry
that
you've
been
here
for
a
while,
and
I
appreciate
you
tuning
in
and
listening-
and
I
wish
that
and
that
we
weren't
having
these
technical
difficulties.
Is
that
okay
with
you,
if
we
reschedule.
L
B
Okay:
okay:
well,
let's
go
ahead
and
do
that
then
thank
you
again,
rick
for
your
patience
and
for
being
here
with
us
allison,
I'm
sorry
for
your
computer
troubles.
B
Let's
go
ahead
and
and
bump
this
then
we'll
now
move
on
to
item
number,
seven,
which
is
an
esther
jackson
stole
and
for
the
human
rights
commission.
Sorry,
esther
we're
still
a
little
bit
early,
but
hopefully
less
of
a
surprise
than
10
minutes
ago.
A
You're
you're
totally
blind,
but
thank
you
so.
First
of
all,
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
mayor
for
the
appointment
and
to
all
of
you
for
accepting
it
and
I'd
just
like
to
shout
out
andrew
johnson,
commissioner
johnson,
I
think
you're
doing
a
fantastic
job
for
our
district
and
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
you
for
the
example
that
you
continue
to
show
not
just
in
what
you
say,
but
how
you
your
actions,
both
in
your
work
and
personal
life.
A
So
thank
you
for
that,
and
you
know
I
can't
imagine
that
this
is
what
you
would
all
imagine
would
be
facing
today
over
19
and
ongoing
protest.
But
I
do
commend
all
of
you
for
your
willingness
to
stick
around
and
face
the
issues
head
on
with
the
desire
to
make
things
better.
So
thank
you
for
all
your
work.
What
about
me?
A
I
am
a
mother
of
three
amazing
children.
My
oldest
would
probably
disagree,
but
I
am
also
an
immigrant
to
the
states,
and
I've
been
here
for
a
while
now
one
of
the
things
that
has
really
been
something
that
stood
out
to
me,
which
is
the
perspective
that
I
have
in
coming
from
a
different
world
and
growing
up
here
in
the
states
and
seeing
how
things
work.
A
There's
been
some
disappointments
in
many
areas,
but
there's
also
been
a
lot
of
food
and
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
experience
them,
and
I
think
that
with
that,
with
that
perspective,
I
think
that
being
on
the
human
rights
commission
would
be
a
great
way
that
I
can
affect
change
and
make
sure
that
I'm
doing
my
part
to
make
sure
that
our
children
are
being
raised
in
a
community
supports
them.
That
is
looking
out
for
them.
They're
people
out
there
they're
looking
out
for
them.
A
So
I
do
appreciate
this
opportunity
and,
in
addition
to
being
a
mall
and
immigrant,
I
am
a
realtor.
As
my
background,
I've
had
an
opportunity
to
work
in
utah
for
a
while
now
and
there's
just
so
many
amazing
things
I
could
you
know
say
about
salt
lake,
especially
salt
lake.
I
think
I
fell
in
love
with
felt
like
in
a
major
way
and
it's
great
to
be
a
part
of
all
the
goodness
that
is
happening.
A
I
know
we
do
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
with
various,
definitely
great
things
that
are
happening
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
more
to
come.
So
thank
you
all
for
this
opportunity
and
feel
free
to
reach
out
ever.
B
M
No
question,
but
esther
is,
as
you
can
tell
very
kind
and
very
direct
also,
so
I
appreciate
that
about
her.
I
think
she'll
be
a
great
ad
addition
to
the
to
the
human
rights
commission.
I
appreciate
her
willingness
to
serve
here
in
the
city.
It's
thanks.
B
Thank
you
esther.
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
that
I
served
two
terms
on
the
salt
lake
city,
human
rights,
commission
and
prior
to
running
for
city
council.
So
you
may
find
yourself
here
someday
too.
So,
if
you're,
not
if
you're,
not
careful,
but
we
appreciate
your
service
and
with
everything
that's
going
on
right
now,
I
think
we've
been
asking
as
a
council.
B
How
can
we
get
the
human
rights
commission
more
involved
in
all
of
this
work
and
that's
that
our
city
is
facing
right
now
with
equity
and
policing
and
all
equity
in
all
of
our
areas?
So
I
hope
that
that
you
will-
and
the
other
members
of
the
commission
will
inform
us
like
what
how
we
can
better
utilize
this
commission
and
to
do
this
important
work
that
we're
facing
right
now.
B
Yes,
any
other
questions:
okay,
esther.
We
will
place
your
name
on
our
consent
agenda
item
or
our
consent
agenda
to
tonight
at
our
formal
meeting
at
seven
o'clock.
You
are
welcome,
of
course,
to
join
us
at
our
formal
meeting
at
seven,
but
you
need
not
be
present
to
win.
So
if
you,
if
you're,
not
able
to
join
us,
then
that's
that's
totally
fine!
It's
up
to
you,
but
wanted
you
to
know
that
you're.
Welcome
too.
A
B
All
right,
council
members,
we
had
agenda,
we
had
some
standing
items,
I
don't
have
any
reports
or
announcements.
Andrew
and
cindy.
Do
you
have
any
andrew?
No
cindy?
Do
you
have
any
announcements.
I
I'll
answer:
since
no,
we
do
not.
B
Great,
so
we
will
proceed
to.
We
had
scheduled
a
tentative
closed
session
for
the
purpose
of
deploying
security
forces
or
deployment
of
security
devices,
and
so.
D
B
B
M
B
M
K
K
B
J
B
I'm
yes
as
well.
I
don't
think
we
have
a
separate
meeting
for
this
closed
session.
So
correct.
Could
someone
politely
take
everyone
off
who's,
not
supposed
to
be
here.