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A
A
We'll
now
turn
the
time
over
to
our
work
session
items.
Item
number
one
is
in
our
update
from
the
administration,
so
I
will
turn
the
time
over
to
aaron
mendenhall,
the
mayor,
rachel,
otto
chief
of
staff
and
lisa
schaefer,
the
chief
administrative
officer.
If
any
of
them
are
available
to
join
us.
B
Hi
mr
chair
hi,
I'm
here
I'll
start
and
then
rachel
give
you
an
update
on
homelessness.
Following
on
the
covid
front,
we've
been
anticipating
that
numbers
would
be
a
little
bit
lower
this
week,
because
testing
was
down
due
to
the
holiday
and,
of
course,
we're
still
monitoring
the
local
data
with
the
county
health
department
and
working
with
them
to
try
and
build
on
enforcement
capacity
which,
as
you
know,
in
businesses
that
enforcement
is
done
by
the
county
health
department,
not
salt
lake
city.
B
So
we've
we've
articulated
our
needs
and
what
we
would
do
and
with
the
third
tranche
of
funding-
and
I
know
the
council
has
seen
that
so
happy
to
answer
any
questions
about
our
proposal
for
the
third
tranche,
but
hopefully
on
whether
or
not
we
get
it
and
police
department
has
established
some
specific
shifts
to
respond
to
calls
for
large
gatherings
on
fridays
and
saturdays
in
salt
lake
city.
They
haven't
received
many
calls
reporting
parties
basically,
but
they
are
available
to
respond.
B
If
so,
we've
actually
been
able
to
reappreciate
grant
that
allows
us
to
put
some
profile
the
approach
he
would
be:
educational
and
terry
compliant.
It
would
allow
us
to
deploy
that.
A
Thank
you
any
questions,
council
members,
it
doesn't
look
like
it,
so
rachel
will
turn
it
over
to
you.
D
Thanks,
mr
chair
good,
to
see
you
all,
I
just
wanted
to
take
a
couple
of
minutes
to
update
you
on
the
community
commitment
program
and
on
plans
for
winter
shelter.
D
On
the
first
point,
the
voa
and
our
other
outreach
partners
are
still
working
in
the
areas
of
500
west
and
the
ninth
south
area.
It's
it's
hasn't
been
as
a
you
know,
as
big
of
an
operation
as
our
resource,
fair
on
700
south,
but
they're.
Still
there
working
and
again,
as
we
mentioned
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
when
we
met
with
you
were
aren't
we
are
not
planning
on
any
closure
of
those
areas
to
camping
until
we
have
more
winter
shelter
options
online.
D
So
the
good
news
is
that
the
resource
centers
have
been
open
to
new
intakes
and
that
has
been
going.
That
has
opened
up
some
capacity
and
it's
been
going
a
bit
more
smoothly
and
motel
vouchers.
Hotel
vouchers
have
been
available,
but,
as
I'm
sure
you
all
know,
we
are
not
yet
ready
to
launch
the
winter
shelter.
D
I
shouldn't
say
we,
but
I
should
say
the
the
coalition
as
a
whole,
which
we're
obviously
engaged
with,
but
that
the
salt
lake
valley
coalition
to
end
homelessness
is
is
still
working
to
find
a
second
overflow
location,
the
first
overflow
location
that
they
have
identified
next
week.
That's
a
60
bed
facility
for
men
and
not
in
salt
lake
city,
but
they
are
they're
just
making
the
final
preparations
to
open
that
location
early
next
week.
D
So
in
terms
of
the
second
location,
there
are
still
some
moving
parts
on
that
and
we
are
hoping
to
get
more
clarity
on
where
that
is
in
the
next
couple
of
days,
so
we'll
be
in
touch
with
council
staff
on
that.
As
soon
as
we
hear
anything,
I
also
just
wanted
to
to
mention
back
on
the
community
commitment
program
front
that
the
we
did
install
two
portable
restrooms
in
the
area
of
900
south.
D
That
was
a
request
from
some
of
the
surrounding
property
owners.
To
that
help
mitigate
some
of
the
the
issues
they
were
seeing
in
that
area.
D
We're
planning
on
keeping
those
portable
restrooms
there
until
we
have
other
options
for
places
for
people
to
go
in
that
area
and
until
we
close
that
area
to
camping,
so
they're
they're
there
right
now
and
I
think
that's
that's-
providing
a
couple
of
options
for
people
in
that
area.
D
I
think,
mr
chair,
the
next
item
on
on
the
updates
from
the
administration
is
chief
brown
talking
about
police
department,
the
police
department
standing
item,
and
I
think
that
he's
prepared
before
he
gets
to
to
the
main
item.
He
wants
to
talk
about
today
to
talk
about
some
of
the
work
that
the
police
department
has
done
in
the
saint
mark's
area
also
related
to
individuals
experiencing
homelessness.
So
I'll
pass
it
to
him
to
complete
that
item
and
then
move
on
to
the
police
department
item.
E
I'm
sorry
about
that.
Last
week
we
had
a
meeting
with
some
of
the
the
leadership
of
the
saint
mark's
cathedral.
E
We
met
with
rhonda
uber
ron,
barnes,
the
mayor,
westin
clark
and
quite
a
few
members
of
the
staff
to
talk
about
the
issues
and
concerns
and
and
what
we
found
out
is
along
the
west
side
of
the
cathedral.
E
They
were
having
a
lot
of
people
just
hanging
out
there,
and
these
were
very
shelter-resistant
people
throughout
the
summer
and
in
the
fall
months
we've
been
over
there
doing
outreach,
but
many
of
them
just
don't
want
any
services,
and
there
there
was
a
kind
of
a
criminal
element
that
was
hanging
out,
dealing
drugs
and
different
nefarious
activities,
and
so
over
the
weekend
we
focused
not
only
undercover
assets
but
patrol
assets.
E
Captain
lance
van
dongen
over
the
central
division
patrol
amassed
different
units
and
squads
took
some
of
the
the
overtime
monies
and
put
people
over
there.
We
made
several
arrests,
but
just
the
sheer
presence
of
being
there
really
moved
a
lot
of
that
criminal
element
out
of
the
area,
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
really
paid
off
was
we
put
one
of
our
cameras
over
there,
the
overt
cameras
right
on
the
corner
of
south
and
second
east,
which
really
has
made
a
big
difference.
A
Great,
thank
you
and
then
did
you
want
to
update
us
on
any
other
policing
items.
E
Yes,
I
do,
and
this
is
a
big
thing
we
have.
E
We
have
gone
to
the
drawing
board
and
we
have
remodeled
and
put
together
a
new
model
for
our
ciu,
our
community
intelligence
unit,
which
are
the
the
seven
officers
that
represent
each
council
district
and
the
liaison
with
council
members
and
staff,
community
councils
and
different
stakeholders
throughout
the
city
and
what
we've
come
down
to
and-
and
I
think
I
have
a
couple
things
that
I'd
like
to
share
and
and
when
you,
when
you
look
at
this
visually
I'll
kind
of
walk
through
what
it
is
now
and
what
we're
going
to
try
to
achieve
with
this
new
model.
E
But
just
historically
several
years
ago.
This
used
to
be
part
of
our
sergeant
promotional
process.
If
you
can
share
the
diagram
showing
the
the
ciu
versus
the
copsy
diagram.
E
E
But
the
problem
was,
it
became
very
short-lived
officers
would
rotate
in
and
out,
and
so,
as
community
members
got
to
know,
faces
and
individuals,
they
would
surely
be
transferred
out
of
that
unit,
and
it
was,
it
was
kind
of
frustrating
because
it
seemed
to
be
that
you
know
every
six
months
or
every
you
know.
Sometimes
the
longest
was
a
year.
They
were
getting
new
officers
in
that
that
position,
so
we
made
it
a
permanent
assignment
where
it
wasn't
wasn't
built
into
the
sergeant
promotion
process
and
it
worked
much
better.
E
But
if
you
look
to
the
left,
where
it
says
ciu
that
was
the
configuration
you
had
the
seven
district
ciu
officers
that
took
different
liaisons
with
the
community
problems,
issues
concerns
and
they
took
it
to
their
sergeant.
E
Their
sergeant
headed
up
that
unit
and
then
he
took
it
to
an
administrative
lieutenant,
but
that
entire
program
existed
within
the
liberty
division,
and
so
captain
rich
lewis
right
now
is
the
the
captain
over
that
division,
but
all
the
requests,
all
the
issues
and
problems
for
the
entire
city
came
up
and
through
his
division
and
then
he
would
do
his
best
to
push
those
back
out
to
the
pioneer
division
in
the
central
division.
But
that
was
not
a
very
efficient
model.
E
Many
times
we
had
officers
or
ciu
officers
that
were
trying
to
to
work
on
problems
say
on
the
west
side,
where
they
were
trying
to
get
resources
and
they
would
have
to
go
back
through
their
command,
which
was
back
through
liberty
to
get
maybe
a
west
side
a
pioneer
bike
patrol
to
put
some
efforts
on
to
an
area
like
north
temple
in
800
west.
It
wasn't
really
effective
and
so
what
we're?
What
we're
going
to
do?
E
Or
what
we're
trying
to
do
under
this
new
model
and
we've
not
copsy
anymore,
because
that
name
just
didn't
didn't
sound,
very
good.
Copsy
anyway,
we've
retiled
it
we'll
fix
this
diagram.
But
it's
going
to
be
the
division,
community
liaison
officer,
and
so
what
we
have
done
and
the
biggest
shift
is.
We
have
made
these
these
officers
and
this
position
geographically
responsible
to
the
the
patrol
division
in
which
they
oversee
and
represent
so,
for
instance,
in
pioneer
those
those
district
one
and
two.
E
That
officer
will
report
to
the
command
staff
of
the
pioneer
division
in
liberty,
the
five
six
and
seven
will
report
up
and
through
the
liberty
division
and
in
central
districts.
Three
and
four.
That
officer
will
report
directly
to
the
central
division
and
now
now,
instead
of
having
one
officer
trying
to
work
on
different
community
problems
and
trying
to
find
the
resources
to
address
those
things.
E
Council
members,
you
have
a
command
staff
at
your
disposal
to
to
work
on
those
problems
I
mean
you'll
have
not
only
the
officer
the
divisional
community
liaison
officer,
but
you'll
have
the
sergeant
the
sergeant
over
the
bike
squad.
You'll
have
the
liberty,
division,
lieutenant
and
you'll
have
a
captain
that
will
be
working
on
those
problems
to
address
in
all
the
community
needs
that
you
may
have.
I
think
this
will
provide
a
much
better
model
and
it'll
be
much
more
productive.
It'll
streamline
the
communication.
E
It'll
help
us
work
closer
with
the
city,
the
city
assets,
as
far
as
the
civil
enforcement
team,
heart
cat,
the
mayor's
lays
onto
the
community,
the
health
department
and
other
non-profit
government
organizations,
but
I
think
the
true
benefit
will
be
that
we
can
now
pull
this
geogra
geographic
responsibility
and
accountability
into
our
comstat
model.
So
these
officers
will
bring
these
problems
to
comstat
and
we'll
talk
about
them,
we'll
address
them.
We'll
look
at
the
hotspots
in
the
intel
and
we'll
report
back
and
so
in
talking
with
ben
levke.
E
Earlier
today,
ben
and
allison
attend
many
many
compstat
meetings,
and
now
they
will
start
seeing
ciu
problems
and
issues
discussed
in
comstat,
but,
more
importantly,
what
we've
done
so
we
can
report
back
to
you
as
a
council
members
with
that
I'd
like
to
open
it
up
for
any
questions.
You
may
have.
F
Thanks
chief,
I
appreciate
the
overview.
The
details
are
helpful.
F
I
think
I
understand
your
communication
argument
as
far
as
streamlining
that,
through
the
precincts
just
sort
of
initial
observation
from
looking
at
the
diagram,
what
it
looks
like
is
the
detective
now
say
in
district
2
is
now
going
to
take
on
both
district
1
and
district
2.
right.
Is
that
going
to
sort
of
offset
the
improved
communication
by
spreading
them?
Thinner
is
the
concern
that's
sort
of
coming
immediately
to
my
head,
and
I
can
see
my
the
folks
in
glendale
and
poplar
grove
asking
that
as
well.
E
Yeah,
that's
a
great
question.
What
I
think
it'll
do
is
is
it
will
only
be
one
officer
but
he's
going
to
bring
a
command
an
entire
command
to
the
table,
to
attend
those
meetings
and
to
address
problems
and
issues.
So
when
you
have
community
council
meetings,
not
only
would
I
mean
you
would
have
detective
eldon
oliver
there
to
address
the
community,
but
I
can
see
him
working
very
closely
with
the
the
bike
sergeant
assigned
to
each
division
and
just
as
a
reminder.
E
Each
each
division,
liberty,
central
and
and
pioneer
has
a
bike
squad
at
their
disposal,
and
so
I
see
this
officer
working
hand
in
glove
with
the
sergeant
over
those
bike
squads
to
those
different
areas,
but
also
bringing
the
lieutenant
and
captain
to
meetings.
So
I
think
on
paper
you
may
see
just
one,
but
I
think
in
in
in
action
and
the
way
I
hope
this
works
is
that
we'll
bring
a
team
to
address
those
issues.
E
I
went
to
some
of
the
meetings
and-
and
I
would
see
eldon
doing
the
very
best
he
could,
but
he
didn't
really
have
the
command
and
the
resources
to
do
what
he
needed
to
do
so
I
attended,
and
then
I
said
well,
why
don't
we
have?
Why
isn't
the
captain
of
the
of
the
pioneer
division
here
and
then
I
think
you
saw
captain
attend
and
then
you
saw,
I
think
some
of
his
lieutenants
attend.
E
So
what
we
really
did
is
put
this
model
into
action
and
I
think
a
lot
of
the
benefits
and
things
we
have
been
able
to
accomplish
over
on
north
temple
have
been
at
the
fruits
of
this
type
of
model.
So
I'm
hoping
that
this
will
be
a
better
model
for
all.
If
you'll
put
up
the
next
slide,
let
me,
let
me
show
you
who
your
community
liaison
officers
are
going
to
be
they've
been
selected.
E
I
want
you
to
know
we
put
this
out.
We
put
this
up
for
people
to
put
in.
We
had
over
12
officers
put
in,
which
is
quite
a
few
for
this
assignment,
so
captain
john
boehner
will
be
over
pioneer
patrol.
His
lieutenant
is
russ
hammett
and
his
division,
community
liaison
officer
will
be
elden
oliver,
so
we'll
maintain
that
consistency
over
there
in
districts,
one
and
two
captain
lance
van
dongen
in
central
his
lieutenant
his
executive
lieutenant
is
andy
leonard
and
he'll
have
officer
bob
norgard.
E
I
don't
know
if
any
of
you
have
met
bob
but
he's
a
hard
charging
he's
a
great
officer
and
he'll
do
a
great
job
for
central
and
then
liberty.
We
have
captain
richard
lewis,
lieutenant
gary
trost
is
the
lieutenant
and
then
the
division
community
liaison
officer,
that
is
a
mouthful
to
say,
we'll,
have
to
come
up
with
an
acronym
on
that,
but
it'll
be
nate
miser.
E
Now
I
I
know
we're
going
to
tweak
this
and
there'll
be
some
things
we'll
want
to
work
on,
but
I
don't
want
to
wait
a
year
or
even
six
months
to
figure
out
we've
got
a
problem.
I
want
to
reassess
and
talk
to
you
and
your
staff
and
the
mayor
and
her
staff
and
our
stakeholders
in
the
city,
I'd
like
to
review
the
process
every
month
to
see
how
we're
doing
and
then,
if
you
have
feedback
or
any
ways
we
can
make
this
better.
G
Rogers,
just
it's
not
a
nuance
little
item,
but
when
we
switched
from
each
from
a
mayor's
liaison
per
district
down
to
to
covering
several
districts,
sometimes
they
don't
make
it
to
all
of
the
community
council
meetings
when
we're
there.
So
I
I
I
know
that
this
is
one
of
those
little
deals
I've.
You
know
the
mayor
knows
this
as
I
was
we
were.
We
were
actually
part
of
that
whole
process
of
sergeants
being
promoted
through
this
process,
and
you
know
this
will
be
my
seventh
now.
G
I
believe
ciu
detective
chief
and
I've
been
over
this
with
you
that
you
know
when
we're
talking
about
west
side
residents
getting
to
know
their
individuals
when
we're
changing
like
this
constantly
it's
a
problem.
H
E
G
Through
seven,
you
have
ciu
detectives,
so
here
we
are,
you
know,
and
I
I
can
tell
you
all
of
them
have
been
fantastic,
but
it's
the
consistency
that
we've
got
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
not
we're
not
downgrading
the
service,
because
detective
kurdi
he's
been
he's
been
fantastic
for
district
one,
and
you
keep
on
telling
me
that
this
way
it's
going
to
streamline
the
process.
But
you
know
everything
gets
changed
for
some
reason
and
some
some
some
things
get
left
behind.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
is
not
being
left
behind.
I
G
E
No
councilmember,
that's
a
great
point
and
I
respect
your
your
your
position
there
and
it's
my
commitment
to
you
counsel
that
I'll
I'll
be
checking
in
with
you
to
make
sure
that
we're
meeting
the
needs
of
the
communities
you
serve,
and
I
know
I
know,
there's
a
lot
of
meetings
for
people
to
attend
to
and
even
even
with
seven
different
ciu
officers.
There
were
times
we
couldn't
make
all
the
meetings.
E
So
if,
if
there
are
overlapping
meetings
or
meetings
at
the
same
time,
I
would
expect
the
liaison
officer
to
be
at
one
and
maybe
the
lieutenant
to
be
at
the
other
or
even
the
captain,
and
so
instead
of
just
one
trying
to
to
juggle
all
those
different
meetings,
I'm
hoping
to
have
that
team
cover
those
meetings
and
again
that
will
familiarize
the
entire
command
staff
to
the
community.
That
they're
trying
to.
J
E
A
Chief
back
to
the
mayor
and
rachel:
did
you
have
any
other
items
that
you
wanted
to
address
under
this
agenda
item?
Are
we
ready
to
move
on
to
the
equity
and
racial
equity
and
policing
issues.
A
Okay,
or
did
we
already
cover
the
racial
inequity
issues
in?
Do
you
have
any
additional
updates
for
this
agenda
item
or.
K
K
L
L
L
So,
on
december,
2nd
december
9th
and
december
16th,
there
will
be
subcommittee
meetings
and
then,
on
december
23rd
and
30th,
there
are
no
meetings
at
all.
So
again,
that's
december,
2nd,
9th
and
16th.
There
will
be
subcommittee
meetings.
As
you
know,
these
are
open
to
the
public.
The
three
subcommittees
that
meet
are
policy
and
practice,
which
is
at
4
pm
on
wednesday
school
safety
subcommittee
on
also
at
4
pm
and
the
training
subcommittee,
which
is
at
5
p.m.
L
L
Slash
boards,
slash
rep
agenda.
That's
slc.gov!
Slash
boards,
slash
rep
agenda.
Anyone
who
has
questions
can
check
the
link
on
that
page
as
well,
or
just
write
to
rep
commission
at
slcgov.com.
So
any
of
those
options
will
get
you
in
contact
with
the
organizers
of
the
rep
commission
meetings
and
will
get
you
access
to
the
agenda.
So
that's,
I
believe
all
we
have
for
that
update.
L
Unless
someone
interrupts,
then
we
sorry
not
interrupts,
has
questions
house
that
has
questions
or
tells
me
that
that
other
things
need
to
be
added.
Then
we
can
move
to
the
crb
review.
L
L
Okay,
so
the
first
one,
the
first
potential
straw
poll
is
to
amend
city
ordinance
to
extend
the
period
for
which
to
file
a
complaint
with
the
crb,
the
30
days
after
filing
with
the
police
department.
L
So
would
you
like
me
to
go
through
any
sort
of
summary
of
this
issue,
or
do
you
want
to
just
go
ahead
and
see
if
anyone
wants
to
do
the
straw
poll.
L
Once
the
complaint
has
been
filed
with
the
police
department,
the
council
can
set
the
number
of
days
it
prefers,
and
the
city
attorney
suggested
30
days
as
after
filing
with
the
police
department
would
be
a
reasonable
starting
point.
I
want
to
note
that
a
complaint
can
also
be
filed
directly
with
the
crb,
but
these
are
four
complaints
that
go
first
through
the
police
department,
so
it
could
be
30
days.
It
could
be
any
number
of
days
that
the
council
prefers.
A
Okay,
do
council
members
have
any
thoughts
on
this
questions?
If
not,
then
I
would
appreciate
if
somebody
wanted
to
call
for
a
straw
poll
council
member
fowler.
M
M
Obviously,
but
do
you
want
to
make
sure
that
people
feel
they
have
adequate
time
to
understand
and
get
their
complaint
filed?
So
I
I
I'm
in
support
of
extending
it,
I'm
just
wondering
if
we
need
more
than
30
days
or
if
anyone
feels
that
we
would
need
more
than
30
days.
F
Amy,
I'm
sorry
councilmember
fowler.
Do
you
have
any
sense
of
how
long
you're
sort
of
leaning
towards
that
reaction
or.
M
I
mean
honestly,
my
gut
reaction
is
60
days.
I
I
find
that
getting
if
you
have
to
get
a
complaint
together,
if
there's
any
documentation,
if
you
have,
you
know
gathering
all
of
that
and
then
being
able
to
make
a
complaint,
not
that
you
would
need
that
to
make
the
complaint,
but
I
was
kind
of
leaning
more
towards
60
days,
but
again
I
don't
want
to
extend
it
indefinitely
or
think
that
that's
too
much
time
so
I'm
open.
I
just
kind
of
that
was
my
first
thought
when
I
was
reading
through
these.
F
Is
there
any
compelling
sort
of
argument
for
30
days
as
sort
of
the
medium
point?
I
don't
know
if
rick
rasmussen
or
anybody
else
has
anything
to
contribute
on
this.
L
You
know,
and
I
neglected
to
mention
when
we
started
that
both
katie
katie
lewis,
the
city
attorney,
is
here
to
answer
questions
and
as
as
you
saw
andrew,
I'm
sorry,
councilmember
johnston.
Rick
rasmussen
is
also
here.
H
Council
members-
I
I'm
happy
to
jump
in
there-
was
some
internal
discussion
about
where
to
put
that
number
of
days
and
remember
it's
the
days
not
after
the
incident,
but
after
a
complaint
has
been
also
filed
with
the
police
department.
So
you
know
it.
Sort
of
is
one
of
the
triggers
is
the
complaint
with
the
police
department,
and
then
we
thought
well
30
days
after
that
would
be
enough
time
where
you're
sort
of
thinking
about
it
already,
and
it's
a
that.
You
know
same
complaint.
H
F
Can
I
ask
another
question,
mr
chair
yeah
go
ahead.
The
clock
starts
on
our
complaint
to
the
police
department.
If
I'm
a
regular
citizen,
am
I
notified
anyway,
when
that
clock
starts.
L
So
councilmember,
I
believe
that
when
someone
I
mean
typically,
it
would
be
the
alleged
victim
of
a
complaint
who
would
do
the
filing,
and
we
understand
that
the
police
department
will
notify
and
does
notify
people
who
make
a
complaint
that
they
also
can
file
with
the
crv.
H
And
council
member
johnston
just
to
put
a
finer
point
on
that.
The
ordinance
actually
requires
the
police
department
to
notify
the
complainant
that
they
also
have
the
right
to
file
with
the
civilian
review
board.
So
that's
an
affirmative
obligation
that
the
department
has
when
they
receive
the
complaint.
J
F
J
Not
on
my
end
and
not
that
I've
observed,
I
think
we
had
a
case
recently
that
was
recently
in
the
last
six
months.
It
was
from
three
or
four
years
ago.
Sometimes
it
takes
a
while
for
folks
to
come
forward
on
these
types
of
things.
Police
department's
been
great
every
time
the
complaints
come
in
even
that
far
back
they
open
the
case.
We
do
the
investigation.
F
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
would
be
supportive
of
councilmember
fowler's.
It's
not
really
that
extrapolate
this
point,
but
the
inclination
to
maybe
extend
the
30
days
a
little
farther
than
that.
A
M
Mr
chair,
I
would
move
to
have
a
straw
poll
sorry
working
to
support
changing
the
ordinance
to
allow
60
days
or
a
complaint
to
be
filed.
A
Okay,
is
there
any
questions
about
the
straw
poll
or
any
debate?
Okay
go
ahead
and
indicate
your
support.
I
am
seeing
a
thumbs
up
from
councilmember
fowler
johnston,
mono
dugan
rogers
and
myself
and
council
member
baltimore's
is
absent.
A
A
F
H
Sure
my
understanding
is
that
the
the
question
for
the
the
felony
convictions
was
whether
or
not
the
individuals
could
go
on
ride-alongs
and
that's
probably
a
question
to
ask
chief
brown
of
how
that
would
be
affected.
But
there
may
be
ways
for
crb
members
to
be
trained
without
going
on
ride-alongs
and
the
fact
that
these
individuals
have
completed
their
sentences
didn't
seem
to
be
that
conviction
didn't
seem
to
be
enough
of
a
barrier
to
keep
them
off
of
the
civilian
review
board,
given
their
their
job.
Their
obligations
on
the
board.
K
Mr
chair,
yes,
I
just
perhaps
one
of
the
things
that
we
could
do
is
ask
the
administration
whether
the
police
re,
the
requirement
relating
to
the
ride-alongs
is
a
police
rule
or
a
police
practice
or
norm,
and
whether
that's
something
that
they
would
reconsider
on
the
concept
that
once
someone
has
paid
their
debt
to
society
there
up
not
be
additional
punishment.
E
Yeah,
thank
you,
mr
chair.
I'm
checking
right
now,
even
as
we
but
it
may.
It
may
be
that
we
we
have
to
do
a
bci
check
on
those
to
do
a
ride
along
with
us,
so
that
perhaps
is
an
internal
policy
that
we
can
that
we
can
adjust
as
cindy's
talking
about
the
one.
One
question
is
that
there
might
be
criminal
justice
information
that
that
cannot
be
shared,
but
let
me
let
me
get
let
me
get
back
to
you
on
that.
E
Can
I
can
you
give
me,
can
I
report
back
next
week
on
that,
or
are
you
going
to
vote
on
that
tonight?.
A
We
were
anticipating
a
vote,
hopefully
tonight
so
pending
all
these
straw
polls,
but
I
think
I
I
think,
council
members
like
what
the
city
attorney
has
said,
is
that
we've
already
that
there
are
possible
workarounds,
even
if
the
person
can't
do
a
ride-along,
and
so
I
think
we
we
just
don't
necessarily
need
that
information
in
order
to
move
forward
today.
Is
that
what
I
heard?
Katie,
okay,
councilmember
fowler.
M
So
I
would
suggest,
if
we're
supportive
of
this
change,
then
maybe
there
is
some
language
or
legislative
intent
to
still
have
chief
brown
bring
back
this
other
information
so
that
we
can
clarify
that
in
the
future
as
well.
M
M
M
I
guess
at
this
point,
I'm
just
making
a
struggle,
so
I
would
propose
a
stronghold
that
we
support
the
change
of
allowing
people
who
have
been
convicted
of
nonviolent
felonies
and
misdemeanors,
but
have
completed
their
sentence
to
be
allowed
to
be
on
the
crb
and
a
legislative
intent
that
chief
brown
bring
back
information
regarding
ride-alongs
and
convicted
people
convicted
of
felonies
and
and
misdemeanors
not
being
able
to
do
those
right
to
logs.
Does
that
make
sense.
A
Yes,
I
got
it
does
everybody
else?
Does
everyone
understand
the
straw
poll
any
questions
or
debate
about
that?
Okay
go
ahead
and
indicate
whether
you
support
or
not
support
okay.
So
I've
got
me
council,
member
fowler,
councilman
johnston,
councilmember
dugan,
mono
and
rogers,
and
so
that's
unanimous
with
council
member
baltimore
sappson.
L
So
as
you,
you
may
recall,
the
specific
complaint
cases
are
heard
by
panels
of
randomly
selected
crb
members
with
the
pandemic.
It
the
panels
have
moved
online
most
for
the
most
part,
but
still
all
minimum
number.
Its
minimum
number
of
board
members
need
to
be
present
to
have
the
discussion
with
other
board
members,
so
everyone
needs
to
be
present
simultaneously.
L
There
is
concern
among
council
members
that
the
current
ordinance
allowing
only
three
crb
members
to
hear
and
decide
a
complaint
is
too
small,
so
this
change
would
increase
the
minimum
size
of
panels
to
five
members
now
to
facilitate
the
ability
of
the
administrator
investigator
to
form
five
member
panels
in
a
timely
manner.
Council
members
also
have
suggested
expanding
the
number
of
crb
members
to
21,
which
we
look
at
in
the
next
straw
poll.
F
Think
what
allison
brought
up
is
a
huge
issue.
If
I
support
the
five
person
panel,
I
have
to
support
expanding
the
entire
hcrb
in
order
to
make
anything
happen,
because
it
would
really
slow
the
process
down
and
I'm
worried
about
being
able
to
fill
a
21
to
this
point
or
in
the
future.
So
I'm
concerned
about
those
next
couple
of
motions,
whether
they're,
feasible
or
operational.
F
J
G
Oh,
no,
I
was
just
gonna,
say
andrew
nailed
it
that
if
we,
if
we
aren't
looking
at
expanding
it,
I
think
that
rick
would
come
on
and
say
that
he's
already
having
hard
enough
time
getting
board
members
to
come
and
fill
these
spots
so-
and
I
know
that
the
chair
is,
is
he's
been
doing
every
single
one
of
them
because
he's
not
getting
him
filled.
L
It
might
be
worth
mentioning
too
that
rick
rasmussen,
the
administrator
investigator,
has
mentioned
that
on
particularly
serious
cases
like
oicis
and
others.
He
makes
a
special
effort
to
get
five,
even
though
three
is
the
minimum.
That
is
an
informal
practice.
It's
not
formalized
in
the
ordinance,
but
that's
how
it's
been
reported
so.
F
L
Yes
and
if
it
remains,
if
the
council
chooses
to
have
the
crb
crb
number
remain
at
14,
then
that
would
be
nine
members.
If
all
14
positions
are
filled.
A
M
L
I
have
not
heard
it
perhaps
rick
would
like
to
comment
if
he's
heard
it.
J
Yeah,
it's
never
been
raised
on
any
of
the
cases
and
allison's
right
on
officer-involved
shootings
all
end
up
canvassing,
the
entire
sitting
board
to
get
five
for
a
pound,
and
if
it
doesn't
work,
then
we'll
just
delay
the
battle.
Until
we
get
five
on
some
of
the
less
serious
cases,
I
think
we've
done.
J
K
If
mr
chair,
if
I
could
add,
we
have
had
several
questions,
come
about
this
and
it's
been
more
since
the
additional
scrutiny
has
been
put
on
all
matters
relating
to
the
police,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
it
was,
the
panel
system
was
put
in
by
administrative
rule
as
opposed
to
by
ordinance,
but
its
existence
was
surprising
to
some
of
the
people
that
we
heard
from,
and
so
that's
why
it's
that
in
the
interest
of
council
members
is
why
it
has
remained
on
the
list
and
it's
possible
that
the
stipend
that
is
raised
later
in
the
list
of
questions,
maybe
a
factor
in
resolving
this.
K
A
lot
of
the
people
who
might
be
interested
in
this
board
are
are
people
who
are
working,
full-time
or
more
than
one
job
and
aren't
able
to
take
time
away
from
work.
So
I
don't.
I
don't
know
if
the
stipend
piece
could
be
brought
into
this
conversation
or,
if
you
consider
it
to
be
relevant.
M
Cindy
when
you
said
that
it
surprised
people
to
hear
that
there
was
a
panel
system,
were
people
expecting
to
be
heard
by
the
entire
board
and
that's
what
surprised
them?
Okay,
yeah
I
mean,
I
guess
I
it
doesn't
surprise
me
because
I
just
think
of
the
court
of
appeals,
so
you
can
kind
of
get
a
panel
with
the
court
of
appeals
too,
but
that
okay,
it's
interesting,
mr.
F
F
For
the
numbers,
three
four
and
five
that
we've
been
sort
of
discussing
together,
I
personally
would
feel
a
little
more
comfortable
if
we
proceeded
to
say
six
and
seven,
I
think
number,
seven,
the
the
stipend
could
be
a
nice
litmus
test
in
some
ways
to
see.
If
we
can
keep
this
board
actively
filled
and
see
if
we
can
expand
it,
I
like
the
idea
of
expanding
it.
Frankly,
I
think
we
probably
get
some
good
decisions
with
more
folks
in
the
representation.
F
F
Yeah,
I
guess
I
think
in
my
mind,
right
now
I
would
probably
vote
no
on
three
four
and
five
currently,
but
I
wouldn't
be
opposed
to
them
in
the
future.
I
just
don't
want
to
say
no,
no,
no,
but
know
that.
There's
a
rationale
and
saying
no,
not.
M
M
Or
and
if
there's
not,
I
think
we
could
make
one
that
we
do.
A
review
of
the
crv
in
x
amount
of
time
to
see
how
the
changes
that
we're
making,
whether
that's,
if
we
decide
to
look
at
a
stipend,
if
that's
helping
rick
fill
spots,
you
know
or
or
make
sure
the
panels
are
filled
or
things
like
that.
To
andrew's
point,
I
would
probably
vote
no
on
three
four
and
five
until
we
see
if
the
other
changes
are
helping
or
do
a
review
of
the
crb.
M
F
Well,
I
I
think
that
madame
fowler
and
mr
chair,
I
think
number
six
is
there's
a
12-month
kind
of
annual
council
briefing
from
the
crb.
Maybe
that's
where
this
is
coming.
The
idea
came
from,
I
think
that'd
be
a
nice
natural
time
to
review
it.
I
Council
member
fowler
are
you
talking
about
after
we
give
the
maybe
increase
the
stipend
and
see
if
that
helps
yeah
like
vote.
Do
a
straw
poll
on
increase
the
stipend
and
then
see
if
we're
getting
enough
numbers
to
hey
warrant
going
to
21
and
going
to
five
yeah,
I'm
I'm
all
for
that.
Yeah.
J
K
You
could
do,
is
you
could,
at
this
time,
increase
the
board
to
21,
recognizing
that
those
may
not
be
filled,
and
so
that
you
don't
mess
up
the
quorum?
K
You
could
say
the
quorum
define
the
quorum
in
this
case
as
a
as
a
majority
of
the
number
of
seats
filled,
but
that
gives
the
administration
a
signal
that
you're
interested
in
expanding
the
board
and
it
allows
them
to
recruit
people
for
the
board
and
have
a
place
to
put
them
if
they
say
yes,
because
it
would
be
kind
of
a
chicken
and
an
egg
thing.
I
think
it
would
be
hard
for
them
to
to
try
to
recruit
without
having
slots
so
just
a
possibility.
J
A
I
I
feel
pretty
strongly
that,
like
expanding
the
number
of
people,
that
it
is
at
least
possible
to
have
on
the
police,
civilian
review
board
will
help
alleviate
these
problems
and,
I
think,
getting
rid
of
the
some
of
the
barriers
or
that
the
background
check
barrier,
I
think,
is
going
to
help
as
well,
and
I
I
would
just
like
us
to
even
if
we
can't
fill
21
seats,
I
think
it
would
based
on
my
conversations
with
rick.
A
I
think
it
would
make,
even
if
we
don't
do
the
five
panel
requirement,
but
still
increase
the
number
to
21
and
that
that
would
help
at
least
do
this.
This
sort
of
informal
policy
objective
that
he
has
to
to
have
five
when
there's
an
officer-involved
critical
incident.
So
I
I
would
support
what
cindy
said
as
a
as
a
combination
of
sort
of
everything.
We've.
A
A
F
Yeah,
mr
chair,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
I
agree
with
councilmember.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
it's
included
with
three
members
representing
each
distance.
F
A
Yes,
yes,
of
course,
any
other
discussion
to
this
okay
and
go
ahead
and
indicate
whether
you're,
supportive
or
not,
supportive,
I'm
seeing
myself
councilmember
fowler
councilman
romano
councilmember,
dugan,
councilmember,
johnson,
councilmember,
rogers
I'll
get
up
with
one
absence,
which
is
council
member
voldemort.
A
L
L
The
the
straw
poll
would
be
to
amend
city
ordinance
to
require
an
annual
council
briefing
about
recommendations
formulated
by
the
crb
during
the
preceding
12
months.
I
I
wasn't
clear
whether
that
is
included
in
this
drop
hole.
You
just
took
it
sounded
like
it
might
not
be.
A
A
F
A
A
Okay,
anyone
have
any
questions
or
debate
about
this
okay
go
ahead
and
indicate
your
thoughts
and
got
a
thumbs
up
from
me:
councilmember
fowler,
councilman,
romano
councilmember,
dugan,
councilmember,
johnson
and
councilmember
rogers.
So
that's
unanimous
with
one
absence.
L
Okay,
if
you'd
like
to
con
continue
on
structure
number
seven,
it
would
be
to
amend
city
ordinance
to
provide
an
honorarium
to
crb
members.
Would
you
like
me
to
go
through
the
potential
discussion
on
this.
L
Okay,
the
question
of
whether
to
provide
an
honorarium
to
members
of
traditionally
volunteer
city
boards
and
commissions
has
come
up
in
several
discussions
with
the
ceo,
sorry
with
the
council
and
in
in
other
forums.
L
The
first
exception
that
the
city
has
approved
to
this
practice
of
not
paying
of
relying
on
volunteers
is
the
commission
for
racial
equity
and
policing.
Those
members,
as
you
probably
remember,
receive
a
fixed
annual
honorarium
depending
on
their
position
in
the
group.
So
the
idea
is
that
the
board
members
who
who
are
in
the
core
commission,
who
do
the
agenda
setting
who
who
essentially
spend
a
lot
more
time
than
many
of
the
other
board
members,
are
paid
slightly
more
than
the
than
other
members
of
the
commission.
L
So
there
is
a
policy
question
here
for
the
council
about
whether
they'd
like
to
ask
the
mayor's
office
about
its
recent
experience
identifying
new
members,
since
they
recently
proposed
several
new
members
to
the
board,
or
you
could
go
on
to
the
additional
aspects
that
the
council
might
wish
to
consider
about.
Providing
an
honorarium.
A
Okay,
would
you
like
to
weigh
in
on
that.
B
The
replacement
of
a
couple
of
commissioners,
because
there's
so
much
work
involved,
we
had,
we
simply
had
a
couple
of
people
whose
other
demands
and
obligations
in
life
made
them
feel
that
they
couldn't
commit
the
time
that's
needed,
and
so
we
our
course
was
to
ask
them
who
they
would
suggest,
be
the
appointments
in
their
stead
and
those
suggestions
came
from
the
commission
participants
themselves,
although
we
would
have
been
open
to
exploring
new
people
who
aren't
yet
part
of
the
commission,
but
that
was
that
was
the
the
way
I
wanted
to
go.
B
And
I-
and
it
makes
me
think,
as
as
you
just
had
a
discussion
about
the
crb,
that
there
I
don't
know
how.
Often
we
ask
as
a
city
the
board
members
to
submit
suggestions
of
folks
that
the
city
could
reach
out
to
to
fill
board
seats
and,
and
I'm
sure
that
there's
a
six
reasons
on
one
side
and
a
half
a
dozen
on
the
other
of
why
that
can
or
cannot
help
diversity
on
the
board.
But
anyway,
when
it
came
to
the
commission,
that
was
the
course
we
took,
and
I
think
it
may
be
one.
B
A
The
honorarium
do
you
think
that
that
would
assist
in
trying
to
help
fill
positions.
B
We
could
even
include
folks
who
have
applied
for
boards
and
commissions,
but
you
know,
haven't,
had
an
opening
come
up
that
they
were
able
to
fill,
but
I
think
to
ask
outside
of
the
boards
and
commissions
as
well.
What
barriers
may
prevent
you
from
participating
and
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
venues,
whether
it's
community
councils
or
neighborhood
partners,
organization,
commodities
to
anitas
and
others.
That
would
probably
help
us
in
asking
that
question
of
the
community,
but
it
should
be
holistic.
B
Okay,
one
step
further,
mr
chair,
I
I
would
like-
and
I
think,
if
we
wouldn't
have
had
a
flat
budget
this
year,
we
might
have.
My
administration
probably
would
have
brought
this
to
you
already,
but
we
would
like
to
consider
not
only
the
honor,
the
I
want
to
say
honorarium,
but
the
payment,
the
stipend
to
participate,
but
a
suite
of
other
supportive
measures
that
the
city
could
take
from
child
care.
Subsidy,
transit,
subsidy,
whether
that's
lyft
or
uta,
also
hosting
the
boarding
commission
meetings
at
different
locations
around
the
city
could
be
libraries.
B
A
Okay,
okay,
would
anybody
want
to
make
a
straw
poll
to
this
item
or
more
discussion
questions
councilman,
romano.
I
I
Question
I
like
the
idea
of
providing
a
stipend
or
an
honorarium
to
board
members.
I
think
it's
good
to
recognize
that
it's
real
work
that
we're
asking
people
to
do
and
that
we
want
the
best
people
to
to
fill
those
seats
as
possible.
My
question
on
this
one
would
be:
is
the
honorary
and
tied
to
just
being
on
the
board,
or
would
it
be
each
time
a
case
comes
forward,
whichever
three
or
five
or
however
many
we
determine
is
necessary
for
that
case,
but
they
would
get
a
stipend
for
participating.
L
And
I
think
that
may
be
an
open
question
in
the
staff
report.
I
mentioned
that
you
know
the
council
may
want
to
consider
the
difference
between,
for
example,
basing
the
entire
stipend
on
the
number
of
panels.
A
person
may
serve
on
versus
a
basic
sort
of
underlying
stipend,
because
each
each
board
member
does
have
to
go
through
a
certain
amount
of
training
for
the
crb,
and
I
believe
the
mayor
has
some
additional
comments.
B
Thanks,
mr
chair,
I
I
I
know
that
some
state
boards
and
commissions
paid
their
one
that
I
serve
on.
I
haven't
accepted
the
money,
but
I
think
it's
sixty
dollars
per
meeting
that
some
of
the
department
of
environmental
quality
boards
can
give
to
participants,
there's
also
a
travel
stipend.
But
of
course
those
are
statewide
boards
and
some
people
are
traveling
a
great
deal
to
participate.
B
I
just
end
up
to
mention
other
government
boards
and
commissions
in
the
state
that
we
could
look
to
for
cost
establishment
and
how
they've
arrived
at
those
stipends.
I
don't
think
that
we
need
to
necessarily
make
it
up
on
the
spot,
but
with
the
commission
on
racial
equity
and
policing.
We
knew
that
that
was
a
finite
amount
of
work,
not
that
the
work
shouldn't
continue,
but
I
think
yeah.
B
You
know
we've
been
clear
that
those
commissioners
are
tasked
with
a
specific
body
of
work
which
will
come
to
a
conclusion,
and
the
city
will
evolve
the
way
that
that
continues
and
and
not
be
asking
those
same,
commissioner,
commissioners,
to
necessarily
continue.
So
I
I
just
want
to
pull
that
one
out
as
a
really
unique
board
and
commission
in
the
city.
L
It
may
also
be
useful
to
consider
the
different
kinds
of
board
that
the
city
has.
Some
boards
are
advisory,
only
I'm
thinking
of
the
business
advisory
board,
for
example,
and
then
some
boards,
like
the
crv,
like
the
planning
commission,
have
a
certain
amount
of
legal
responsibility
or
they
have
to
make
decisions
because
of
rules
and
ordinance.
A
F
J
F
F
My
concern
right
now
is
that
the
thing
it
keeps
ringing
in
my
head
is
how
much
time
the
planning
commission
citizen
spends
in
their
duties,
and
I
think
we
I'd
want
to
flesh
out
the
differentiation
and
who
we
provide
this
to
which
boards
and
commissions,
and
that
might
take
a
little
time
to
come
back
to
us
with.
So
I
want
to
support
the
idea.
F
The
intent
is
I'd
like
to
support
this,
but
I
don't
want
to
support
and
just
say
yes
to
the
crb,
without
a
little
more
information
from
about
how
we
would
have
this
in
other
boards
and
commissions.
We
could
create
some
other
intentional
problems
by
only
doing
that
without
looking
at
other
ones
as
well.
A
Yeah-
and
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
all
I
misspoke
earlier
when
I
said
that
we
had
scheduled
to
take
action
on
this
tonight-
we're
scheduled
to
take
action
on
on
the
8th,
but
obviously
that's
not
going
to
be
enough
time
to
have
a
discussion
about
all
boards
and
commissions,
but
it
does
give
us
a
little
bit
of
extra
time.
So
I
wanted
to
clarify
that
sorry
for
misspeaking
earlier.
A
And
if
nobody
else
oh
go
ahead,
councilman
romano.
I
I
would
just
say
I'm
okay
waiting
to
take
action
on
the
that
piece
until
we
have
the
holistic
discussion,
because
I
also
think
that
we
should
think
about
it.
Having
been
on
the
planning
commission,
there
are
a
lot
of
meetings
that
they've
had
and
they
sometimes
feel
very
late.
So
I
think
we
should
try
and
think
about
it
holistically
throughout
the
city.
So
I'm
okay,
waiting
until
that
discussion
can
happen.
I
M
To
support
the
addition
of
a
honorarium
of
some
sort,
which
I
think
we
can
be
vague
and
define
it
potent
later.
So
I
would
support
an
honorarium
for
members
of
the
crb
and
include
a
legislative
intent
to
have
a
holistic
discussion
about
boards
and
commissions
throughout
the
city
and
honorariums
in
that
way,
given
to
those
boards
and
commissions.
A
Okay,
is
there
any
questions
or
debate
about
the
straw
poll.
F
F
Implementation
of
an
honorarium
I
can
see
as
putting
for
the
the
throttle
the
support
of
it
and
then
it
being
written,
and
then
we
have
to
sort
of
see
this
unwritten
paper
and
say
no
to
it
potentially
or
delay.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
clear
we're
not
going
to
take.
I
don't
want
to
take
action
on
this
particular
honorarium
without
the
context
of
evidence.
A
Can
I
ask
a
question
to
to
katie
if
we
pass
this
ordinance
or
the
changes
to
the
police
civilian,
the
amendments
to
the
ordinance
and
then
we,
you
know
later,
have
a
discussion
about
honoraria
like
does
it
need
to
be
in
this
ordinance
or
could
we
have
an
ordinance
that
is
like
there?
Here
are
the
boards
that
get
an
honor
area,
and
here
are
the
ones
that
don't
or
whatever,
whatever
we
decide
to
do.
H
Absolutely
council,
chair
so
currently
in
city
code,
there's
a
boards
and
commissions
ordinance
that
applies
to
all
the
boards
and
commissions
and
talks
about
a
quorum
and
appointment
and
sort
of
universal
concepts.
And
so
I
can
imagine
and
a
revision
to
that
section
of
city
code
talking
about
honoraria
and
then
you
could
piece
out
the
boards
that
would
be
entitled
to
honor
area
or
the
the
levels
of
honor
area
that
they
could
be
entitled
to.
It
does
not
have
to
be
in
this
ordinance.
A
Okay,
well,
we
have
a
straw
poll
on
the
floor
which
is
councilmember
fowler's
so
and
then
it
sounds
like
the
reason
I
ask
this
question
is
that
if,
if
this
straw
poll
doesn't
pass,
it
sounds
like
there's
an
option
to
do
an
alternative,
so
I'll
ask
if
people
want
to
support
this
and
then,
if
somebody
wants
to
ask
for
another
straw
poll
to
support
an
ordinance
like
the
one
that
katie
just
described,
then
we
can
do
that
later.
But
I
want
to
go
ahead
and
move
forward
on
councilmember
fowler.
A
A
Okay,
so
I've
got
a
thumbs
up
from
me
and
a
thumbs
up
from
councilmember
fowler
and
the
thumbs
down
from
council
member
johnston,
mono,
dugan
and
rogers.
So
we'll
go
ahead
and
if
one
of
the
people
who
voted
no
well
or
yes
wants
to
do
a
straw
poll
now
about
the
discussion
count
like
council
member
johnson
was
saying,
then
please
go
ahead
and
make
a
straw
poll.
A
L
L
L
So
currently,
there
are
some
limitations
about
how
council
member
sorry
board
members
can
get
together
to
look
at
the
body-worn
camera
footage,
and
there
are
also
concerns
about
the
confidentiality
and
even
internet
limitations
for
sending
these
videos
to
board
members
in
their
homes.
So
the
question
here
is
whether
the
council
would
like
to
straw
pull
the
idea
of
providing
this
adequate
workspace
or
requesting
the
administration
do
so.
A
So
this
would
be
in
addition
to
like,
like
a
post
covered
world,
if
we
ever
get
back
to
that,
they
would
go
back
to
what
they
did
before,
but
this
would
be
like
in
the
interim.
L
My
understanding
is
that
this
would
be
helpful
in
the
longer
term.
Maybe
rick
wants
to
stick
to
this.
Okay.
J
Yeah,
this
is
definitely
something
when
we
meet
face
to
face
which
are
better
for
the
paddles
themselves.
J
A
Okay,
isn't
there
okay.
F
A
H
I
don't
I
don't
have
anything
to
chime
in
about,
and
I
apologize
for
that.
I
could
do
a
little
bit
of
work
and
get
back
to
you,
though,.
A
Yeah,
that's
I
just
I
don't
want
to
take
the
vote
if
you're
like
there's
out,
there's
like
literally
no
space
left
so
or
if
you
think
that
we
can
find
a
space
somewhere
like
if
it's
feasible
to
move
forward
today,.
H
Yeah,
I
think
it's
feasible.
I
think
we
could
probably
find
some
space,
but
I'm
I'm
not
sure
on
how
much
space
and
there's
a
lot.
I
don't
know
right
now
so,
but
I
but
I
do
think
that
we
could
accommodate
something.
A
Okay,
so
does
anyone
have
any
questions
about
the
poll?
Okay
go
ahead
and
indicate
your
thoughts,
see
councilmember
johnson
as
a
yes
councilman,
romano,
dugan,
fowler
and
rogers
or
yes
is
online.
Yes,
as
well,
that's
unanimous
with
one
absence
council,
member
baltimore
else:
okay,.
L
Okay.
The
second
additional
item
is
a
straw
poll
on
expanding
efforts
to
raise
the
public
stature
of
the
crb
by
providing
communications
staff
or
the
opportunity
to
contract
with
a
private
firm
for
this
purpose.
Essentially,
council
members
in,
I
believe,
all
three
of
the
different
meetings
talked
about
the
importance
of
communicating
with
the
public
and
the
media
about
what
the
crv
does,
but
at
the
same
time
preserving
the
privacy,
the
security
and
the
impartiality
of
crb
members.
L
M
It's
all
seem
like
legislative,
intense
to
me
where
we're
just
saying:
yes,
please
look
into
it
and
come
come
back
and
if
you
come
up
with
a
great
budget
idea,
let
us
know-
and
am
I
miss
reading
that
okay,
so
in
that
case
I
would
just
I
would
be
in
support
of
this
legislative
intent
to
the
legislative
intent
number
two.
M
L
J
F
F
I
don't
know
how
many
we
would
think
about,
because
we're
opening
up
this
large
budget
question
now,
but
I
can
see
a
number
of
boards
in
my
head
right
now
who
can
really
benefit
from
similar
public
engagement,
awareness
and
confidence.
A
F
So
part
of
me
is
thinking
that
this
intent
might
not
just
be
for
us.
It
might
be
for
other
points
and
commissions
as
well,
and
I'm
also
thinking
that.
How
do
we
leverage
the
resource
for
the
greater
benefit
for
a
lot
of
places,
because
I
think
we're
talking
about
changes
in
the
city,
the
crb
one
part,
but
there's
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
for
equity
planning,
stuff
and
zoning
and
human
rights
commission.
Obviously,
and
there's
a
number
of
boards
in
my
head.
I
Okay,
councilman
vermont,
so
I
can
only
really
speak
from
experience
about
the
boards
that
I've
been
on,
but
with
planning
and
with
redevelopment
advisory
committee.
They
both
had
the
staff
members
from
planning
or
rda
to
provide
that
public
outreach,
whereas
with
the
crb
I
can
see
how
that's
different,
like
the
police
department
staff,
it's
sort
of
an
independent
thing
and
I
can
see
why
we
wouldn't
want
the
police
depart
department
staff,
providing
that.
So
I
can
see
an
argument
for
where
crb
is
very
different
than
at
least
the
ones
that
I've
sat
on.
A
Okay,
well,
we
have
a
straw
poll
penny.
Sorry,
mayor
mendenhall
go
ahead.
B
I
just
wanted
to
offer
that
sandy
in
our
office.
M
Sorry,
I
was
just
thinking
and
going
back
to
what
darren
just
said
about
on
the
different
boards
that
he's
been
on
the
staff
were
there
to
help
the
board
or
the
commission,
and
I
think
that's
probably
true,
because
I
mean
that
is
true,
because
in
this
case
staff
is
there
to
help
this.
The
crb
and
the
staff
is
rick,
and
so
I
think
what
we're
looking
at
I
mean
is
that
there
just
may
need
to
be
more
staff.
M
It's,
I
think,
probably
the
majority
of
boarding
commissions
have
a
staff
member
that
helps
out
with
the
border
commission,
but
in
this
case
it
seems
that
the
one
staff
just
may
need
more
help.
So
I
go
back
to
my
original
straw
poll
that
we
look
at
this
drought
number,
two
of
providing
a
communications
staff
or
the
opportunity
to
contract
with
a
private
firm
for
this
purpose.
A
Yeah
and
that's
that's
the
straw
poll
that
is
out
there,
so
if
there
are
any
more
questions
or
discussion
related
to
that
straw
poll-
and
I
don't
see
any
so,
let's
go
ahead
and
just
so.
This
is
just
a
legislative
intent,
go
ahead
and
indicate
your
and
I'm
yes,
councilman
fowler's,
yes,
dugan
mono,
johnston
and
rogers
are
all
thumbs
up.
So
that's
unanimous
support
with
council
member
baltimore
sabsin,
okay,
number
three
allison.
L
A
So
I
see
this
one
and
number
four
as
similar,
so
I
would.
I
would
make
a
straw
poll
that
we
do
that
for
both
three
and
four
and
have
a
succession
plan
and
have
legislative
intent
for
potential
future
ordinances
change.
Ordinance,
changes
regarding
the.
A
Okay,
let's
go
ahead
and
indicate
whether
you're
for
or
against
okay,
I've
got
councilmember
fowler,
dugan,
mono,
rogers,
johnson
and
myself
are
all
supportive
and
councilmember
aldemoro's
absent.
Okay,
number
five.
L
Okay,
the
final
two
may
be
more
for
discussion
or
again
legislative
intent.
As
the
council
member
fowler
suggested,
number
five
was
to
schedule
regular
small
group
meetings
for
crb
members
with
council
members,
and
the
policy
question
for
the
council
is
whether
whether
you'd
like
to
have
our
staff
schedule.
These
meetings
at
regular
interval
intervals,
for
example,
annually.
I
I
think
annually
seems
like
a
long
time
between
meetings,
but
is
that
overdoing
it
if
you
do
quarterly
and
is
that
just
too
cumbersome
for
meetings
but
annually
I
mean
we're
already
doing
we're
basically
going
to
do
a
review
every
one
year
anyway.
So
why
do
we
need
a
small
group
meeting,
whether
it's
quarterly,
I
would
go
rather
for
a
quarterly
or
semi-annually
annually.
L
A
Good,
I
was
just
gonna
say
I
guess
what
I
would
suggest
on
this
item.
If
there
aren't
further
questions,
is
that,
just
if
council
members
want
to
do
this,
they
can
coordinate
with
staff.
J
L
Okay,
okay
and
then
the
final
item
is
whether
to
explore
ways
to
encourage
the
district
attorney
office
to
speed
rulings
on
salt
lake
city's
officer
involved
critical
incident
cases,
as
well
as
other
cases
with
high
public
profiles.
In
the
small
group
meetings
board.
Members
expressed
some
frustration
that
first
by
law,
they
need
to
wait
for
the
district
attorney
to
rule
on
a
case
before
they
can
take
action
on
a
related
complaint
and
the
da's
office.
As
you
know,
sometimes
the
investigation
do
take
a
very
long
time.
A
Yeah,
I
was
just
going
to
say
something
that
we've
discussed
as
the
legislative
subcommittee
talking
about
a
possible
bill,
or
something
like
that.
So
just
so,
council
members
are
aware:
we've
brought
that
up
when,
in
talking
with
legislators
that
represent
salt
lake,
if
there
be
any
interest
in
pursuing
something
like
this
in
state
law,
but
katie,
do
you
want
to
give
more
information.
H
H
L
Okay,
well,
those
are
all
of
the
questions
I
have
unless
someone
wants
to
do
something
more
formally
with
this
number
six.
Otherwise
I
can
follow
up
on
all
of
these
and
let
you
know
how
it
goes.
A
Okay,
thanks
alison,
okay,
we
are
now
at
item
number
four,
which
is
a
comprehensive
housing
and
planning
petition
briefing
so
buckle
in
everybody.
We
got
90
minutes
set
aside
for
this
and
a
lot
of
interest
from
the
public
on
this
item.
A
So
to
start
us
off,
we
have
nick
tarbet
who
well
actually
we
have
a
yeah
okay,
nick
tarbet
from
the
council
office
blake
thomas
can
director
angelo
price
policy
and
project
manager
for
hand.
Sarah
javora,
nick
senior
planner
susan,
landmark
project
manager,
and
then
we
have
a
bunch
of
other
people
from
can
and
other
departments
available
for
questions
and
so
nick
do
you
want
to
start
us
off.
J
Yeah
sure
I'll
give
a
quick
intro.
Can
you
hear
me
yep
all
right
perfect?
Today
the
council
will
hold
a
briefing
on
a
variety
of
planning
petitions
related
to
housing
issues,
city
staff
from
community
neighborhoods.
Will
brief
the
council
on
these
petitions
and
related
issues
and
talk
about
efforts
to
implement
the
goals
and
objectives
in
the
city's
housing
plan
growing
in
salt
lake
city?
The
purpose
of
this
comprehensive
briefing
is
to
help
place
in
context
the
many
housing
related
items
and
poly
policy
issues
that
will
be
considered
in
the
coming
months.
J
The
council,
it's
important
to
know
the
council
will
not
be
taking
any
action
on
these
at
this
meeting
or
tonight.
Each
item
will
have
a
future
stand-alone
briefing
and
a
public
hearing
that
the
council
will
then
consider
taking
action
on,
as
you
mentioned,
we
have
90
minutes
set
aside
for
the
can
staff
will
go
through
their
presentation
that
afterwards,
the
council
can
ask
any
questions
and
have
a
discussion
about
these
issues.
With
that,
I
will
turn
the
time
over
to
the
administration.
J
N
For
many
of
us,
myself
included,
the
answer
might
be
no
rising
housing
costs
and
flat
wages
have
created
significant
challenges
for
individuals
and
families
in
every
city,
neighborhood
leaving
many
of
us
priced
out.
We
believe
addressing
this
challenge
lies
in
the
complex
interplay
of
policy
programs
and
planning.
We
also
know
that
built
over
moments
in
time.
Our
current
constellation
of
policies
has
created
opportunities
for
some
and
barriers
for
others
at
the
department
of
community
and
neighborhoods.
N
N
We
believe
can
help
salt
lake
city
move
the
needle
on
affordable
housing
in
our
community,
the
programs
and
the
policies
we
believe,
can
create
greater
equity
and
choice
for
our
current
and
future
residents.
We
request
your
feedback
and
questions
and
we'll
preserve
ample
time
to
dig
in
on
any
topic
at
the
end
of
our
presentation.
N
Lastly,
I'd
like
to
publicly
share
my
appreciation
for
ronnie
button
from
civic
engagement
and
brian
maya,
from
planning
for
turning
our
ideas
into
a
beautifully
designed
slide
deck
with
a
short
turnaround
time.
So
if
we
could
get
that
slide
deck
pulled
up,
we
would
appreciate
that
and
then
I
want
to
turn
the
time
over
to
angela
price
to
tee
up
our
conversation
with
an
overview
of
the
values
and
principles
that
result
in
equitable
and
affordable
cities.
So
if
we
could
jump
ahead,
a
couple
slides
that
would
be
fantastic.
P
P
2020
has
illuminated
the
inequities
across
the
country,
and
here
in
salt
lake
city,
breaking
down
the
barriers
that
divide
our
great
city
is
more
important.
Now
than
ever,
we
hear
the
challenges
our
residents
are
facing
and
are
looking
for
positive
and
proactive
solutions
to
ensure
all
who
live
here
have
choice.
P
This
graphic
represents
the
many
layers
that
build
an
equitable
and
holistic
city.
We
understand
the
need
for
rapid
adaptation
to
ensure
long-term
sustainability
economic
diversity.
The
driver
of
our
city
is
more
important.
Now
than
ever.
Salt
lakers
are
asking
for
access
to
opportunity
for
equitable
transportation
options
and
housing
for
all
income
levels.
We
see
these
needs
identified
in
public
processes
in
community
planning.
P
Q
A
couple
more
there
and
one
more
so
thank
you
in
recent
years,
city
plans,
studies,
news
reports
and
constituent
feedback
point
to
housing,
affordability
in
salt
lake
city
and
across
the
wasatch
front,
as
a
growing
concern,
high
rates
of
population
and
job
growth
underscore
the
urgency
of
the
issue.
Even
during
covid19
housing
prices
have
continued
to
rise
10
this
year.
We
want
to
begin
by
highlighting
data
that
shows
how
much
housing
costs
have
increased
for
both
rental
and
for
sale
properties.
Q
We'll
follow
that
up
with
planning
projects
and
amendments
that
aim
to
reduce
per
unit
cost
by
streamlining
the
development
process,
we
recognize
the
need
for
affordable
housing
and
know.
There
are
many
community
concerns
regarding
overall
housing,
affordability,
giving
the
rapid
increases
in
price
and
rental
rates
and
housing
prices.
Q
Q
For
clarity,
there
are
two
types
of
affordability
that
we're
talking
about
today.
I,
like
the
definitions
that
we
see
here
on
the
slide,
affordable
housing
is
considered
that
housing
that
is
restricted
to
families
or
individuals
earning
a
specific
amount
of
money
with
restricted
rent.
The
second
more
broadly
refers
to
the
price
of
housing
when
compared
to
income.
Q
In
responses
to
a
recent,
affordable
housing
overlay
survey,
the
indicated
broad
general
support
for
affordable
housing
is
defined
on
the
slide.
There
is
also
agreement
about
the
need
for
more
housing
for
those
who
struggle
with
the
cost
versus
income
challenge
next
slide
thanks,
for
example,
this
slide
shows
us
how
housing
has
become
less
affordable
to
renters.
Q
Q
Residents
are
cost
burdened
when
more
than
30
of
their
income
goes
to
rent.
This
slide
shows
how
much
of
a
single
person's
income
is
needed
to
pay
for
the
average
apartment,
and
it's
significantly
more
than
the
thirty
percent
that
is
recommended
for
those
earning
less
than
eighty
percent
ami
at
eighty
percent
amri,
a
family
of
four
can
afford
the
average
two
bedroom
apartment
for
less
than
thirty
percent
of
their
income.
They
would
become
cost
burdened,
however,
if
their
income
dropped
to
50
percent
of
ami.
Q
Q
This
is
a
dramatic
increase
that
leaves
many
priced
out
of
salt
lake
city
on
the
left.
The
typical
housing
value
is
shown
the
lowest
in
yellow
increasing
to
the
highest
in
red.
We
can
see
that
the
aryan
yellow
that
roughly
corresponds
with
glendale
is
the
only
place
where
those
earning
an
average
income
can
afford
a
home.
In
all
other
areas
of
the
city.
Single-Family
homes
are
valued
at
more
than
350
000..
Q
The
graphic
on
the
right
shows
the
average
annual
change
in
home
prices
from
2011
through
2020.
Once
prices
started
increasing
after
the
recession,
the
highest
increases
are
shown
in
with
glendale,
seeing
the
highest
increases
in
prices
over
10
percent
per
year,
but
other
areas
have
seen
significant
price
increases,
ranging
from
6.6
in
the
avenues
shown
in
beige
to
9.6
in
rose
park,
the
highest
increases
have
been
in
areas
that
were
historically
more
affordable
per
kem,
gardner
housing
affordability
report
released
in
november.
Q
The
situation
is
not
limited
to
salt
lake
or
utah
of
the
100
largest
metro
areas
in
the
country.
The
salt
lake
area
ranks
fourth
in
housing.
Price
increases
since
2015
with
a
55
increase
and
boise
tops
the
list
with
an
84
percent
increase.
The
salt
lake
area
also
has
the
22nd
highest
median
sales
price
at
372
000.
According
to
a
national
association
of
realtors
study
of
103
183
metro
areas,
next
slide.
Q
So
what
does
this
mean?
For
average
households,
the
median
household
income
was
56
370
in
2018.
This
has
increased
some
over
the
past
two
years,
but
not
at
the
same
rate
as
housing
prices.
With
an
income
of
about
a
hundred
about
56
000,
the
median
list
price
of
a
home
was
over
seven
times,
income
and
the
sold
price
over
eight
times
income.
Q
Q
Q
What
does
this
translate
to
for
the
future?
This
graphic
illustrates
the
projected
course
of
housing
values
increased
at
the
same
rate
as
the
past
two
years.
Home
values
are
shown
in
dark,
blue
with
income
shown
in
light
blue
by
2020
or
website
by
2030.
The
median
housing
price
will
be
nearly
double
what
it
is
today.
The
next
slide.
Q
Well,
there
are
many
variables
leading
to
this
rise
in
prices,
one
that
the
city
regulates
is
zombie.
Zoning
regulations,
control,
many
aspects
of
land
use
in
the
city,
including
the
location
and
type
of
housing
that
can
be
built.
Residential
zoning
in
salt
lake
city
has
become
more
restrictive
over
time
in
the
city's
first
zoning
ordinance,
which
was
adopted
in
1927,
their
two
family
dwelling
was
permitted
in
all
residential
zones
and
the
minimum
lot
sizes,
depending
on
the
zone,
were
between
thirty
five
hundred
and
nine
thousand
square
feet.
Q
The
less
restrictive
residential
b
zones
permitted
apartments
and
hotels,
and
there
are
many
areas
where
it
was
mapped.
This
was
the
time
period
in
which
many
of
the
existing
homes
in
these
older
neighborhoods
were
constructed.
Today,
these
same
neighborhoods
often
only
permit
single
family
or
two
family
homes.
Q
Q
It
wasn't
until
1995,
when
most
of
the
city's
owned
r2,
which
was
owned
r1,
that
two
family
dwellings
were
prohibited
in
much
of
the
city.
At
the
time
the
median
home
price
in
salt
lake
county
was
roughly
115
000
and
the
median
household
income
was
about
40
000.
That's
a
housing
price
to
income
ratio
of
just
under
three
next.
Q
P
Thank
you.
Sarah
I'd
also
like
to
thank
benj
becker
with
zion's
public
finance
for
the
detailed
data
analysis
that
he
conducted
for
us
as
we
were
putting
together
this
presentation
today,
the
canteen
will
offer
context
for
11
different
policy
recommendations,
each
viewed
through
the
lens
of
equity.
Do
you
mind
advancing
the
slides.
P
Keep
going
one
more
there
we
go.
Thank
you.
I'm
going
to
start
with
that
sentence
again.
The
canteen
will
offer
contacts
for
11
different
policy
recommendations
each
viewed
through
the
lens
of
equity.
These
comprehensive
policy
solutions
have
either
recently
been
approved
by
the
city
council
or
represent
a
collective
vision
for
moving
the
needle
on
housing
disparities
in
salt
lake
city.
We
see
equity
as
the
foundation
upon
which
all
policy
recommendations
should
be
built.
Equity
creates
the
ability
to
have
choice
through
our
policy
recommendations.
P
We
want
to
give
salt
lake
city
residents
choice
that
is
not
based
on
gender,
race,
socioeconomic
status,
sexual
orientation
or
religion.
All
residents
should
be
able
to
choose
where
they
live,
where
their
children
will
go
to
school
and
should
have
equitable
transportation
options.
There
should
be
choices
that
provide
upward
mobility
and
access
to
opportunities.
P
P
P
P
I
would
welcome
the
opportunity
to
come
back
to
the
council
at
your
earliest
convenience
if
that
is
desired,
to
provide
a
comprehensive
update
on
our
progress.
Prioritization
of
remaining
tasks,
answer
questions
that
arose
during
the
annual
reporting
process
and
share
our
vision
for
the
comprehensive,
moderate
income
housing
plan
update
slated
to
begin
in
2021
next
slide.
P
P
P
As
we've
studied
this
ordinance,
it
has
become
clear
that
there
are
many
facets
of
hlm
that
need
to
be
considered,
while
the
loss
of
housing
is
certainly
an
issue.
The
displacement
and
gentrification
of
neighborhoods
is
the
core
of
the
problem.
This
is
further
complicated
by
the
desire
to
ensure
that
residents
are
not
living
in
substandard
housing.
P
The
purpose
of
hlm
is
to
mitigate
the
loss
of
affordable
housing
stock
due
to
new
development,
with
due
consideration
for
vested
or
protected
property
rights,
the
intent
is
truly
to
do
no
harm
to
the
housing
supply.
An
ordinance
amendment
was
proposed
and
brought
before
the
planning
commission
in
march
of
2019..
P
The
item
was
tabled
for
further
consideration,
since
then
hand
has
met
with
community
partners
and
convened
an
internal
working
group
I'll
get
into
more
details
on
the
purpose
and
current
ordinance
on
the
next
slide.
As
currently
drafted,
the
hlm
ordinance
does
not
meet
its
intended
purpose
or
impact.
The
city
is
still
losing
housing
units
specifically
naturally
occurring
affordable
housing
to
remodels,
with
no
mitigation
measures
in
place.
P
Additionally,
chapter
18.9
of
city
code,
the
housing
relocation
assistance
program
does
not
have
the
structure
necessary
to
yield
relocation,
assistance
for
individual
individuals
being
displaced
by
development.
The
ordinance
focuses
on
displacement
by
city
projects,
which
does
not
happen
often,
and
the
fee
structure
is
nominal.
A
solid
displacement
ordinance
in
conjunction
with
the
mitigation
plan,
could
serve
as
sound
policy
to
preserving
naturally
occurring
affordable
housing.
P
The
purpose
of
hlm
is
to
mitigate
the
loss
of
affordable
housing
stock
due
to
new
development.
The
intent
is
truly
to
do
no
harm
to
the
housing
supply.
The
issue
is
the
current
ordinance
does
not
preserve,
naturally
occurring
affordable
housing
that
are
being
replaced
by
market
rate
units.
There
are
no
provisions
in
the
ordinance
that
look
at
fair
market
rent
versus
affordable
rents.
P
One
of
the
biggest
factors
in
displacement
is
the
rehabilitation
of
naturally
occurring
affordable
housing
units.
This
raises
the
rent
and
forces
individuals
out
of
the
unit.
A
building
rehab,
for
example,
does
not
trigger
hlm,
as
the
current
ordinance
was
drafted.
This
makes
it
incredibly
challenging
enough
for
incredibly
challenging
for
us
to
track
the
scope
of
the
problem
and
to
mitigate
looking
at
seattle.
As
an
example,
the
city
could
examine
a
performance
or
payment
option
that
truly
mitigates
the
impact
of
the
loss
of
housing,
not
just
through
demolition
but
all
forms
of
housing
loss.
P
Additionally,
a
relocation
program
or
displacement
policy
could
be
developed.
That
would
dovetail
with
the
mitigation
plan.
The
trigger
for
hlm
currently
is
a
demolition
permit,
a
parking
conditional
use
permit
or
zoning
amendment
for
non-resident
plan
that
contains
dwelling
units.
Currently,
there
are
multiple
touch
points
in
the
entitlement
and
development
process.
P
The
current
ordinance
requires
a
mitigation
plan
for
housing
early
in
the
process
and
development
may
not
actually
occur
or
development
plans
may
change.
As
mentioned
one
of
the
main
reasons
the
city
is
losing
naturally
occurring.
Affordable
housing
is
due
to
units
being
remodeled
oftentimes.
A
property
owner
will
make
minor
cosmetic
changes
to
a
building.
That
does
not
require
a
building
permit
like
paint
and
carpet,
which
makes
it
incredibly
challenging
to
track
the
scope
of
loss.
An
ordinance
amendment
could
consider
a
way
to
track
and
mitigate
loss
due
to
remodels
the
administration
is
proposing.
P
One
of
the
biggest
issues
with
hlm
is
the
current
formula.
It's
based
on
appraised
building
value
from
the
county,
assessor
minus
the
international
code,
council
or
icc
square
foot
replacement
costs,
because
the
formula
is
based
on
assessed
value
rather
than
market
value.
It
yields
a
negative
result.
This
is
tricky
to
modify
because
the
assessed
value
is
easy
to
access
and
is
not
disputable.
P
P
P
These
are
just
some
of
the
issues
that
have
been
identified
by
the
administration.
We
recommend
engaging
a
confront
to
provide
an
analysis,
so
we
can
understand
the
scope
and
depth
of
the
loss
of
housing,
specifically
the
preservation
and
renovation
of
naturally
occurring
affordable
housing.
Additionally,
recommendations
for
a
formula
that
is
appropriate
to
the
specific
housing
needs
in
salt
lake
city
is
needed.
I
will
detail
the
proposed
scope
of
services
for
a
consultant
later
in
the
presentation
with
that,
I'm
going
to
turn
the
time
over
to
sue's
landmark
in
the
transportation
division.
R
Okay
thanks,
so
I
think,
as
many
of
you
know,
transportation,
division,
leadership
and
staff
have
been
working
to
focus
efforts
on
the
connection
between
transportation
and
land
use.
R
R
This
could
be
up
to
70
percent
of
household
income
for
some
families,
so
we're
working
to
invest
in
transportation,
infrastructure
and
services
that
help
expand
transportation
options
so
that,
hopefully,
being
mobile
is
less
costly
for
people
in
the
city.
Some
of
these
investments
include
high
quality
and
high
frequency
bus
service.
R
These
are
things
like
multi-use
trails,
crosswalk
improvements
and
separated
bike
lanes
and
then
creating
vision,
type
plans
like
the
draft
street
and
intersection
typologies,
design
guide,
which
is
a
long
name.
So
I'm
going
to
call
it
the
street
typologies
guide
and
those
are
meant
to
help
refocus
the
importance
of
streets
as
community
spaces
and
assets
that
are
sensitive
to
the
context
in
terms
of
it
matters
where
they
are
and
where
all
users,
including
people,
walking,
bicycling,
taking
transit
and
driving,
are
welcome,
comfortable
and
safe.
R
So
many
of
the
existing
and
proposed
zoning
ordinance
are
linked
in
some
way
to
transportation
or
transit
options,
and
we
also
recognize
that
transportation
and
active
transportation
investments
can
be
seen
by
communities
as
a
signal
that
a
neighborhood
either
is
or
will
soon
undergo
gentrification,
and
I
don't
think
we
want
to
suggest
that
increasing
access
to
mobility
options
causes
gentrification
definitively.
R
On
the
contrary,
we
think
that
having
a
variety
of
transportation
options
and
helping
to
reduce
overall
cost
burden
can
be
part
of
the
solution
to
some
of
the
to
mitigating
displacement
and
other
negative
impacts
for
gentrification.
R
So
for
our
current
status
of
some
of
our
city-wide
projects,
the
street
typologies
guide
has
wrapped
up
the
second
public
comment.
Period
and
revisions
are
being
made
now
and
the
third
and
final
round
will
be
out
early
next
year.
R
We
are,
we
have
already
begun
implementing
the
recommendations
from
the
2017
transit
master
plan,
so
that
includes
five
new
bus
routes,
with
increased
frequency
and
or
extended
operating
hours,
and
we're
actively
working
on
creating
infrastructure
for
entirely
new
high
frequency
bus
routes
and
then
the
rfp
for
the
transportation
master
plan.
Update
is
going
to
have
a
focus
on
equitable
engagement
and
planning,
and
it's
going
to
really
have
an
emphasis
also
on
the
relationship
between
transportation
and
land
use
like
housing
uses
and
it's
anticipated
to
be
re-released
in
early
2021.
R
So
that
is
kind
of
the
summary
of
transportation
and
how
we
think
it
connects
with
some
of
these
housing
issues
and
I'll
turn
the
time
back
over
to
sarah
to
talk
more
about
housing.
Amendments.
Q
So
first
I
want
to
highlight
several
zoning
amendments
that
the
council
has
already
approved
or
held
hearings
on
the
first
released.
Adus
changes
to
the
adu
ordinance
were
adopted
in
2018
expanding
the
areas
where
they
can
be
built
and
adus
are
seen
as
a
way
of
providing
additional
units
on
existing
single
family
properties.
Q
The
second
is
shared
housing.
The
council
has
closed
the
public
hearings
for
this
proposal.
Shared
housing
is
considered
one
of
the
most
affordable
housing
types
and
increasing
the
areas
where
it
can
be
built
has
the
potential
to
provide
housing
for
some
of
the
city's
lowest
income
residents.
The
third
is
rmf
30..
The
council
has
also
closed
the
public
hearings
for
modifications
to
the
rmf
30
zone.
This
proposal
is
designed
to
increase
the
potential
for
additional
housing
and
incentivize
the
preservation
of
existing
housing.
Q
Currently
rmf
30
zoning
regulations
require
lot
or
with
areas
and
have
density
restrictions
that
make
it
difficult
to
construct
multi-family
housing,
despite
it
being
a
multi-family
housing
zone
and
then
the
fourth
is
off
street
parking.
This
has
been
transmitted
to
the
council,
but
hearings
have
not
been
scheduled
as
proposed.
The
amendments
would
change
parking
requirements,
particularly
in
close-in
areas
or
near
transit,
to
reduce
off-street
parking.
A
reduction
in
parking
requirements
could
decrease
per
unit
construction
costs
and
lead
to
more
affordable
units
for
residents
next
slide.
Q
Under
the
proposal,
affordable
units
would
be
restricted
to
80
of
area
median
income
or
lower,
depending
on
the
incentive.
The
intent
is
to
provide
opportunities
for
more
affordable
housing
units
across
the
city,
with
an
emphasis
on
those
areas
that
are
close
to
high
frequency,
transit
and
other
amenities.
Next
slide,
please.
N
Thanks
next
slide,
please-
and
one
more,
please
thanks.
So
this
timeline
graphic
illustrates
the
different
programs
policies
and
solutions
that
the
mayor
and
her
team
or
the
administration
are
currently
working
on
to
address.
N
The
housing
crisis
represents
a
coordinated
effort
from
the
administration
working
with
city
council
to
ensure
that
these
policy
recommendations
are
moving
forward
in
a
meaningful
and
timely
way,
with
recognition
that
the
ultimate
direction
and
funding
comes
from
you,
the
city
council,
we
we
did
not
quantify
with
an
estimated
date
in
an
effort
to
not
put
the
cart
before
the
horse,
but
you
can
see
it
is
the
administration's
intent
to
accomplish
all
the
included
items
throughout
2021.
N
Our
capital
asset
and
real
estate
services
team
could
explore
purchasing
these
nuisance
properties,
which
might
serve
as
a
city
investment
for
future,
affordable
housing
development
we
and
the
housing
and
neighborhood
development
division
are
working
on
an
rfq
for
a
housing
loss,
mitigation
and
gentrification
study,
which
angela
will
go
into
a
little
more
detail
in
a
moment,
and
we
hope
to
release
that
by
the
beginning
of
january.
N
There's
several
key
planning
initiatives
that
you
can
see
on
this
timeline.
Some
are
already
before
city
council
such
as
rmf
30
and
shared
housing
and
others.
We
intend
to
bring
forward
in
2021,
such
as
the
affordable
housing
overlay,
for
example,
the
launch
of
the
transportation
master
plan
in
2021
that
will
be
critical
in
ensuring
equitable
transportation
options
for
the
city
and
susan
did
an
excellent
job
of
pointing
out
the
nexus
to
housing.
Growing
slc,
our
moderate
income
housing
plan
expires
in
2022.
N
It
was
a
five-year
plan,
so
our
team
plans
to
go
to
bid
to
hire
consultant
for
this
project
and
we'll
launch
the
rewrite
in
the
latter
part
of
the
year
and
then.
Lastly,
this
graphic
illustrates
the
interplay
between
all
of
these
policies.
The
work
that's
happening
in
our
department
and
the
importance
of
each
one
of
these
policies.
Moving
forward
to
achieve
this
collective
vision,
absent
a
silver
bullet
solution,
each
policy
can
be
viewed
as
a
spoke
on
a
wheel
that
keeps
the
wheel
moving
forward
a
couple
more
slides
ahead.
P
P
Each
item
listed
on
the
graphic
becomes
its
own
thread
that
together
weave
the
fabric
of
our
city,
you
will
see
the
opportunity
for
choice
such
as
having
community
gathering
places
in
art,
open
space,
environmental
justice
and
economic
stability.
These
choices
come
together
with
the
collective
vision
and
comprehensive
policy
recommendations
to
form
the
fabric
of
an
equitable
city.
P
We
are
hearing
from
our
residents
and
community
partners
the
importance
that
choice
and
equity
have
in
our
policy
solutions.
We
see
the
disproportionate
impact,
individuals,
health
safety
and
well-being
based
on
where
they
live,
the
color
of
their
skin
and
their
socioeconomic
status.
The
disparities
are
prevalent
in
evictions,
local
business
closures,
transportation
costs,
environmental
conditions
and
layoffs.
P
These
disparities
are
magnified
more
now
than
ever
with
high
covenant
numbers
on
the
west
side
and
the
increased
death
rate
in
our
friends
of
color,
the
need
for
community
resiliency
and
the
importance
of
being
housing.
Secure
is
imperative
and
critical
in
one's
ability
to
bounce
back
from
natural
disasters.
P
Pandemics,
recessions
and
climate
change
this
year
has
illuminated
the
need
for
change,
sustainability
and
resiliency,
as
our
communities
have
taken
to
the
street.
This
council
and
administration
have
placed
breaking
down
these
barriers
and
healing
our
community
at
the
forefront
of
your
agenda.
The
work
can
does
will
serve
as
a
catalyst
to
bring
the
collective
policy
together
for
an
equitable
salt
lake
city
next
slide.
Please.
P
We
will
be
going
to
rfq
in
january
to
hire
a
consultant
to
look
holistically
at
the
gentrifying
factors
in
the
city.
The
administration
will
be
using
the
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
was
appropriated
on
april
7th
of
2020
in
the
mayor's
recommend
mayor's
recommended
budget
to
fund
the
consultant
theme.
P
We
understand.
These
safety
nets
are
needed
to
complement
land
use,
amendments,
city,
infrastructure,
investment
and
development
pressure.
The
administration
appreciates
the
collaborative
partnership
with
the
city
council
and
the
ability
to
move
forward
on
policy
recommendations
in
a
productive
manner
can
is
seeking
a
consultant
to
look
at
these
issues
from
a
global
perspective
with
an
outside
entity
that
is
trusted
by
the
community.
P
This
consultant
will
examine
the
two
competing
interests
of
urban
revitalization
and
gentrification
and
provide
concrete
solutions
to
address
the
identified
needs.
We
know
some
of
the
problems
and
potential
solutions,
but
need
the
consultant
to
help
us
identify
what
we
don't
know
through
public
engagement
and
data
analysis.
P
We
envision
a
hands-on
approach
by
the
administration,
a
thorough
community
engagement
process
to
understand
the
scope,
breadth
and
depth
of
the
problem.
This
is
critical
in
truly
addressing
the
needs
and
having
a
plan
that
is
built
for
and
embraced
by.
The
community
data
analysis
will
help
us
understand
areas
of
opportunity
and
where
gentrification
pressure
and
risk
of
involuntary
displacement
is
greatest.
P
We
anticipate
policy
and
programmatic
changes
that
are
needed
to
immediately
address
the
identified
issues
in
addition
to
long-term
goals
and
objectives.
These
are
some
of
the
factors
that
we
recommend
be
included
in
the
scope
of
services,
but
certainly
welcome
feedback
from
the
council
on
additional
needs
and
priorities.
P
P
P
How
can
we
provide
for
housing
choice
and
overcome
the
affordable
housing
barriers
like
high
land
value
and
high
construction
costs?
Our
anti-displacement
policies,
like
tennis,
tenants,
first
right
of
refusal
or
a
relocation
program
better
suited
for
the
needs
in
salt
lake
city
is
inclusionary
zoning
one
of
the
spokes
on
the
wheel.
Can
we
develop
a
risk
assessment
and
quantifiable
metric
to
identify
neighborhoods
that
are
ripe
for
displacement
and
opportunities
for
mitigation?
P
What
tools
will
provide
access
to
opportunity
and
does
the
opportunity
index
in
refinement
what
are
best
re-emerging
practices
that
can
be
impactful
in
salt
lake
city?
We
would
like
the
consultant
to
work
at
immediate
needs,
but
also
help
shape
goals
and
objectives
for
the
long-term
collective
vision.
It
is
the
administration's
intent
to
put
out
an
rfq
by
january,
as
this
study
is
a
critical
component
to
ensuring
the
housing
crisis
is
not
exactly
exacerbated
by
additional
loss
of
housing
units.
Q
Thank
you,
angela.
Could
you
go
to
the
next
slide?
Please,
the
planning
staff
also
anticipates
a
number
of
additional
potential
amendments
that
could
result
in
more
housing
opportunities.
These
are
loosely
organized
on
the
slide
by
housing.
Type
under
consideration
are
increases
to
building
heights
in
areas
of
the
downtown
zoning
changes
in
the
granary
and
potential
changes
to
the
zoning
around
the
ballpark
and
2100
south
track
stations.
Q
It
is
anticipated
that
these
changes
would
allow
for
additional
height
building
types
or
otherwise
provide
for
the
construction
of
more
affordable
units.
Also
under
consideration
is
the
adoption
of
the
life
on
state
plan
that
envisions
zoning
that
would
allow
for
more
residential
units.
Additionally,
amendments
to
the
rmf,
35
and
arm
of
45
zones
are
also
under
consideration.
Q
Q
Amending
current
regulations
could
result
in
projects
with
a
greater
number
of
units
that
are
potentially
more
affordable.
As
we
have
said
over
time,
residential
zoning
in
salt
lake
has
grown
more
restrictive.
Amendments
to
existing
zoning
regulations
could
allow
for
additional
housing
types,
including
duplexes,
townhouses
or
small
apartments.
That
often
already
exist
in
many
neighborhoods
because
they
were
originally
permitted.
Q
N
Thank
you
for
your
attention.
We
greatly
appreciate
it
for
the
opportunity
to
talk
about
housing
in
a
holistic
way
and
how
all
these
various
pieces
tie
together.
So,
as
promised,
we
wanted
to
leave
plenty
of
time
for
questions
and
answers,
and
we
have
our
presenters
available
as
well
as
our
division,
directors
in
housing
and.
A
Thank
you
sorry
about
that
questions.
F
I'm
going
back
to
one
of
the
first
slides
in
your
deck,
the
single
family
house
types,
annual
change
in
typical
cost,
typical
values.
J
F
My
question
is
sort
of
two
one
is:
what
is
the
goal
if
we
were
to
say
what
is
the
goal
for
housing
in
the
city,
because
I'll
leave
that
sitting
there
for
a
second?
It's
a
big
question:
that's
complex,
obviously,
but
looking
at
this,
what
I'm
looking
at,
essentially
single
family
home
values
right,
I
live
in
glendale,
it's
yellow.
That
means
the
average
the
typical
home
value,
which
is
average,
is
that.
F
Okay,
it's
below
300
000..
If
I
go
to
the
red,
which
is
just
using
the
avenue
section
east
of
I-15
by
the
university
of
utah,
it
is
double
that
right
over
600
000
for
average,
so
questions
expensive
same
size,
homes
in
general,
I'm
guessing
for
the
most
part,
but
not
all
twice
as
expensive.
N
It
I
council,
member
johnson,
thank
you
for
that
question.
I
think
one
of
the
biggest
concerns
is
the
disparity
as
far
as
the
housing
costs
versus
the
average
income
and
that
imbalance,
so
I
would
like
to
defer
to
lonnie
and
nick,
as
far
as
I
know,
they
have
some
thoughts
about
this
spread
and
we'll
give
them
the
floor.
But
but
I
do
see
this
as
an
issue
as
far
as
the
trend
lines
that
we
presented
and
how
many
people
can
make
salt
lake
city
home
that
want
to.
S
Yeah,
so
I
think
when,
when
you
talk
about
the
goal
plan,
salt
lake
identifies
as
one
of
the
goals
providing
accessible
housing
in
all
parts
of
the
city
for
everybody.
So
I,
if
you
look
into
that
goal
and
start
thinking
about
what
it
means,
is
that
it
really
does
mean
having
housing
options
in
all
of
the
neighborhoods.
S
At
the
time
when
that
goal
was
created,
it
was
partly
to
put
more
housing
in
areas
that
had
higher
access
to
opportunity
which,
in
salt
lake,
if
you
look
at
a
the
opportunity
index
it
it
trends
on
the
higher
ends
on
the
east
side
to
the
lower
ends
on
the
west
side,
and
so
providing
more
housing.
Options
on
the
eastern
neighborhoods
was
is
one
of
the
targets
of
planned
salt
lake.
F
The
reason
I
asked
that
question
is
because
I
this
is,
this
is
hard,
there's
a
lot
of
recommendations
in
here
that
I
would,
I
think,
there's
good
things
in
here.
I'm
concerned
that
they
still
tilt
the
field,
because
if
you
look
at
most
of
our
work,
it
hasn't
followed
these
patterns.
F
Our
mass
transit
follows
the
lower
income
areas
generally
speaking
outside
of
sugar
house
and
the
poor
south
corridor,
and
so
we
look
at
sort
of
what
we're
doing.
We
tend
to
sort
of
say
the
transportation
options
demand.
We
have
higher
density,
housing
or
accessible
affordability,
but
we
don't
touch
areas
of
the
city
that
are
out
of
our
own
expense
and
that's
my
concern
is
that
you
know
we
don't
control
it
all.
F
But
if
we're
not
very
clear
that
we
have
to
be
inclusionary-
and
I
say
inclusionary,
zoning
is
not
a
silver
bullet,
but
if
we're
not
demanding
that
everywhere,
I
don't
know
the
incentives
are
enough.
I
think
that
when
we
look
at
displacement-
and
if
we
say
all
right,
you
have
the
option
to
keep
people
in
their
housing
by
upgrading
it
and
retaining
that
affordability
or
you
can
help
them
relocate.
F
F
So
I'm
not
struggling
with
that
right
now
that
almost
tacitly
it
feels
a
little
bit
like
we're.
Accepting
this
as
long
as
we
have
on
average
folks
have
a
place
to
live
somewhere
in
the
city.
I'm
not
saying
this,
I
get
it,
but
it
feels
a
little
bit
like
I'm,
not
sure
this
is
going
to
be
addressed.
F
I
don't
know
that
it
can,
but
it's
a
little
frustrating
right
now,
looking
at
the
current
proposals
with
the
the
shared
housing,
the
rmf
30,
without
the
loss
mitigation
plan
and
without
an
inclusionary
zoning
concept,
I'm
worrying
that
we're
not
actually
going
to
make
a
lot
of
headway
and
stuff.
We
need
to
do
as
far
as
geographic
equity
just
voicing
that
concern
out
up
front
with
everyone.
I
Yeah,
I'm
also
really
concerned
by
these
two
slides.
I
think.
Actually
the
other
slide
is
what's
concerning
me
is
that
the
areas
in
the
city,
the
west
side,
neighborhoods
that
do
currently
have
more
affordable
housing.
Those
are
the
ones
that
are
increasing
the
most
so
even
though
we're
not
equitable
across
the
city
with
housing
prices.
I
Those
are
the
areas
that
are
having
that
the
highest
rate
of
increase
in
prices,
which
that's
what's
scaring
me,
is
that
I
think,
on
a
city-wide
perspective,
if
the
parts
where
we
do
have
currently
affordable
housing
are
increasing
the
most,
we
have
a
even
bigger
problem
on
our
hands,
and
I
I
also
agree
with
council
member
johnson
that
inclusionary
zoning
is
probably
something
we
have
to
look
at.
Maybe
sooner
than
later,
I
think
that
that's
the
only
way
to
force
or
to
guarantee
some
level
of
affordability
throughout
the
city.
I
That's
the
only
way
that
I
I
know
that
the
affordable
housing
overlay
zone
is
kind
of
doing
that
with
a
more
of
an
incentive
base
and-
and
I'm
hopeful
that
that
will
work.
But
I
I
I
wonder
if
we
can
do
it
with
a
more
of
a
requirement
as.
N
N
Thank
you
councilmember.
I
appreciate
your
comments
and
councilmember
johnston.
Did
you
want
a
response
from
nick
norris
in
terms
of
the
your
inclusionary
zoning
comments.
S
And
so
it
is
starting
to
displace
those
people
who
don't
have
the
options
that
people
with
higher
incomes
have,
and
I
think
you're
absolutely
right
that,
and
I
don't.
I
don't
really
want
to
sound
too
alarmist,
but
that
should
be
a
canary
in
the
coal
mine
for
our
housing,
affordability
and
it's.
If
we
don't
do
something
about
it.
S
We
are
going
to
see
significant
negative
impacts
to
those
neighborhoods
that
right
now,
our
most
diverse
or
most
racially
and
ethnic
diverse,
and
some
of
the
only
places
that
a
lot
of
our
workers
can
live
can
afford
to
live,
and
so
we're
going
to
lose
that
without
changes
on
the
east
side.
And
so
I
agree
that
inclusionary
zoning
has
to
be
part
of
the
solution,
but
so
does
expanding
where
housing
can
be
built
outside
of
the
areas
where
we're
currently
seeing
it
built.
We
can't
rely
on
just
our
transit
corridors.
S
I
I
I
like
the
discussion
here
but
part
about
housing
is,
if
you
don't
have
that
transportation
done
first,
then
the
housing
is
put
up
without
anybody
being
able
to
get
to
work.
So
it
has
to
be.
You
know
together,
and
if
you
don't
have
that
transportation
first
portion
there
funded
and
planned
and
in
place,
then
the
housing
doesn't
do
a
lot
of
good,
because
no
one
can
get
to.
N
J
J
J
A
A
I
I
don't
see
any
okay
great.
Thank
you,
I'm
not
seeing
any
other
questions
right
now.
I
have
one.
Oh
councilman
romano
go
ahead.
I
Sorry
I
was
late
with
that.
I
I
agree
that
transformation
is
really
important.
We
need
to
have
that
as
part
of
the
part
of
the
solution.
I'm
really
glad
that
we,
that
was,
it,
was
included
in
this
discussion
today.
I
do
think,
though,
that
housing
is
such
an
urgent
need
and
transportation
is
such
a
big
lift
to
create
that
I
don't
I'm
not
comfortable,
saying
we're
gonna
not
create
more
housing
until
we
have
significant
improvements
to
our
transportation
network,
because
I
feel
like
that.
I
That's
a
several
year
process
and
we
don't
have
several
years
to
wait
on
housing,
at
least
in
my
opinion.
So,
yes,
I
agree
with
councilmember
dugan
that
that
transportation
is
absolutely
critical
to
creating
a
functioning
city
and
a
better
salt
lake
city,
but
I
don't
think
we
can
wait
for
that
to
be
in
place
before
we
create
more
housing.
I
G
Mine's,
more
of
a
state,
the
obvious,
but
I'm
really
impressed
with
with
the
graphics
that
we've
got
on
this
whole
presentation.
You
know
this
is
a
I'll
just
try
to
enter
use
my
voice
of
kyle
malta,
he
loved
graphics,
so
much
and
he
loved
the
bubble,
charts
and
loved
everything
about
it
and
I
just
have
to
be.
G
G
So
people
are
not
gentrifying
areas,
then
we
should
go
in
there
and
be
looking
at
purchasing
these
properties
in
order
to
make
sure
that
these
these
neighborhoods
aren't
aren't
turning,
I
mean,
if
you
look
at,
we
talk
about
transportation
on
the
west
side,
we're
funding
huge
bus
routes
over
there.
You
know
we're
making
infrastructure
improvements
and
to
say
that
we're
making
these
things
and
it's
turning
it
is,
but
it's
also
creating
access
to
opportunities
for
our
neighborhoods
too.
G
So
you
know
in
the
rda
we
have
the
northwest
quadrant
housing
money
coming
our
way
and
that's
one
way
that
we
can
look
at.
You
know
keeping
it.
So
we
have
affordability
in
areas,
but
you
know
I'm
all.
Looking
forward
looking
and
discussing
inclusionary
zoning.
I
know
that's
a
hot
topic
that
we
need
to
look
for
on
the
east
side
specifically.
T
Along
the
lines
of
what
councilmember
rogers
has
said
yesterday,
there
was
a
great
presentation
that
was
sponsored
by
the
utah
league
of
cities
and
towns
about
public
assets
and
I'd
be
happy
to
share
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
But
so
crux
is
that
we
need
to
make
sure
we
are
working
with
partners,
whether
they're
philanthropic
philanthropic
or
other
partners,
to
make
sure
that
we
are
leveraging
the
billions
of
dollars
of
potential
for
city
or
county
or
other
land
ownership
to
make
sure
that
we
are
maximizing
the
possibilities.
So.
G
Yeah,
mr
chair,
I
appreciate
that
and
that
just
to
follow
up
is
you
know
when
we
look
at
the
fleet
block,
that's
another
one
that
we're
talking
about
where
we
can
make
a
huge
impact
with
just
the
right
type
of
policy
guidance
and
looking
for
you,
know,
affordability
and
creating
opportunities
there
too.
So
it's
like
the
destiny
is
in
our
own
hands
and
with
the
properties
that
we
own
making
sure
that
we
can
do
it.
T
It's
okay.
I
want
to
just
make
sure
I
reiterate
that
we're
working
towards
utilization
of
the
hundred
thousand
that
the
council
appropriated
towards
the
gentrification
study
we
hope
to
be
able
to
have
an
rfp
out
in
january.
It
takes
us
a
little
more
time.
If
we
were
you
know
in
the
private
sector,
we
might
be
able
to
make
this
move
in
a
couple
of
weeks,
but
realistically
at
least
six
to
eight
weeks
to
get
that
going.
T
We
feel
like
we
need
to
have
the
consultant
as
angela
described,
to
participate
with
us
on
the
things
that
we
understand
and
the
things
that
we
don't
understand,
and
so
then,
if
we
come
to
a
realization
that
we
need
a
major
rewrite,
which
I
think
we
are
identifying
that
that's
necessary.
It's
a
lengthier
process.
Six
to
eight
to
nine
months
is
kind
of
a
optimistic.
T
I
can
see
nick
norris
kind
of
maybe
thinking
that's
really
optimistic
lonnie,
but
it's
a
it's
a
long
time,
but
we
definitely
are
focused
on
this
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
moving
quickly
as
quickly
as
we
can.
F
I
would,
I
would
just
reiterate
that,
if
we're
at
a
tipping
point
for
price
and
it
continues
to
escalate,
the
incentives
are
great
but
they're,
probably
not
going
to
be
as
effective.
I'm
worried
that,
where
are
we
at
with
inclusionary
zoning
discussions
or
things
along
the.
F
F
I'm
still
deeply
deeply
concerned
that,
without
that
loss,
mitigation,
ordinance
and
something
along
the
lines
of
inclusionary
zoning,
we
are
not
going
to
make
headway
and
I'm
very
concerned-
and
I
I
understand
the
canary
in
the
coaling
concept
with
this,
but
10
increase
on
the
300
000
house-
is
nowhere
close
to
a
seven
and
a
half
or
eight
percent
increase
on
a
hundred
thousand
and
as
long
as
that's
happening,
the
escalation
in
cost
going
east
is
going
to
far
outweigh
the
incentives
we
can
offer
and
we're
going
to
get
deeper
and
deeper
in
the
hole
we're
not
going
to
catch
up.
F
Because
what
we're
going
to
do
is
we're
going
to
offset
with
infill
on
places
that
have
infill,
which
is
along
areas
that
are
still
cheap
and
so
we're
still
going
to
consolidate
affordability
in
little
areas
and
I'm
all
for
affordability
on
the
west
side.
Frankly,
I'll
support
it,
but
it's
not
going
to
lead
to
equity
across
the
city,
and
so
that's
what
I'm
concerned
about
without
those
two
other
things
quicker
in
the
pipeline
and
getting
moving
we're
going
to
pass
this
now
we
may
lose
three
years
with
these
other
ordinances.
F
Before
we
get
caught
up
and
I'm
like,
I
don't
know
how
to
make
it
quicker.
Frankly,
I
don't
have
the
answers,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
willing
to
put
money
towards
it.
That's
my
concern
going
forward
on
the
current
proposals
in
the
next
few
weeks.
A
Oh
mayor,
go
ahead.
B
Thanks,
mr
chair,
I
don't.
I
hope
that
what
you've
heard
today,
it
shows
you
that
there's
not
a
reluctance
on
the
part
of
the
administration
on
exploring
and
bringing
to
the
council
a
proposal
for
inclusionary
zoning
you've
heard
from
blake's
team
is
around
trying
to
go
in
a
strategic
approach
using
the
data
from
the
community
and
from
the
the
economy.
That's
happening
to
do
it
as
effectively
as
possible,
and
I
I
mean
that
also
with
regard
to
the
state
legislature.
B
So
if,
if
there
is
interest
with
the
majority
of
the
council
to
shift
those
priorities,
I
mean
this
is
a
I've
made
a
case
to
the
council
already
this
year
with
other
departments
and
planning
that
there
are
staffing
resources
that
are
needed
for
us
to
elevate
certain
things.
While
continuing
the
workload-
and
I'm
not
here
with
a
proposal
today.
B
But
I
I
I
will
say
that
it
in
order
for
planning
to
be
able
and
can
in
many
ways
to
be
able
to
go
ahead
with
these
kind
of
advanced
pieces
of
work,
we'll
be
happy
to
bring
you
some
proposals
to
make
sure
the
staff
is
available
to
do
that.
F
So
we
discussed,
I
think,
the
beginning
of
the
year
about
increasing
staffing
for
planning,
particularly,
but
there
are
other
areas
it
sounds
like
it
could
be
useful
if
we
can,
but
we
were
told
that
that
wasn't
necessarily
based
on
some
other
changes.
There'd
be
enough.
Free
time
freed
up.
Is
that
different
now
interview
or
is
it
the
same.
F
Brought
up
in
the
last
budget,
discussion
about
increasing
staff
or
planning,
particularly
it
sounds
like
can
perhaps
need
some
more
whatever
else,
but
we
were
told
that
it
wasn't
necessarily
right
now
that
there
are
some
changes
in
process
that
would
free
up
enough
time
to
be
able
to
sort
of
handle
increased
workload
in
some
capacity.
F
It
sounds
like
we
need
more.
Staff,
though,
is
that.
B
Yeah
and
I'm
going
to
let
blake
speak
to
the
changes
in
process,
but
I
want
to
mention
that
there's
hud
funding
for
us
to
hire
temporary
staff
in
hand.
It
would
go
a
long
ways
for
us
on
the
this
very
timeline,
but
it's
it's
not
finding
traction
with
the
council
at
the
moment,
so
it
would
be
fantastic
to
get
that
hud
funding
that's
available
right
now
on
the
temporary
staff,
but
I'll.
Let
blake
speak
to
the
rest
of
the
process.
N
Thanks
mayor
yeah,
I
think
nick
and
the
planning
team,
as
as
you've
seen
before,
with
some
of
the
proposed
exception
amendments,
I
really
appreciate
the
planning
team
for
being
so
creative,
where
their
workload
has
increased,
but
the
the
staffing
hasn't
followed
that
trend
it's
kind
of
like
income
and
housing
prices.
I
guess
for
a
recent
image
and
I'm
grateful
for
nick
and
the
team
for
saying
here
are
some
of
these
tasks
that
we
might
be
able
to
streamline
and
get
more
with
what
we
have.
N
So
I'm
grateful
for
that
approach
first,
rather
than
the
reaching
out
for
increased
staff
immediately,
but
it
would
be
a
missed
opportunity
if
I
didn't
say
that
that
nick
and
team,
and
also
as
I've
gotten
my
bearings,
I
know
that
the
housing
and
neighborhood
development
team
have
had
a
difficult
time
with
weighing
the
tasks
that
are
in
front
of
them,
with
the
hiring
freeze
vacancies
and
a
desire
to
do
some
of
the
more
forward-looking
housing
loss
mitigation
efforts
or
with
planning
inclusionary
zoning.
N
So
I
think
that
would
be
a
boon
to
help
with
some
of
these
urgent
issues
that
absent
of
consulting
money.
Just
sometimes
they
fall
down
in
the
priority
queue
as
it
relates
to
the
day-to-day
duties.
So
and
as
the
mayor
mentioned,
I
know
you
know
it
would.
It
would
be
a
boon
to
have
temporary
additional
support
for
the
7.1
million
that
we've
just
received,
so
that
lonnie's
team
can
be
working
on
housing,
loss
mitigation
efforts
and
other
things.
So
I
appreciate
your
question
and
just
would
love
to
have
those
discussions.
K
Mr
chair,
yes,.
J
K
Just
checking
in
the
mayor
mentioned,
the
staffing
edition
was
not
finding
with
the
council.
We
did
a
staff
inquire
about
it
because
it
was
characterized
as
helping
to
manage
the
funding
and
they
were.
It
was
three
ftes
and
I
think
that
blake,
I
think
it
was
withdrawn
for
now,
but
we
didn't
at
that
time
have
a
conversation
about
about
housing,
loss
mitigation
or
any
of
these
other
things.
K
I
wonder
if
we
need
to
revisit
that
and
get
some
more
current
information
from
from
the
administration
about
it,
because
we
were
working
with
blake
on
what
are
the
ways
where
they
could
have
temporary
staff,
and
things
like
that,
so
that
they
weren't
on
the
payroll
and
then
later
have
to
be
re
removed
from
city
employment,
so
th.
Those
were
the
things
we
were
struggling
with,
but
I
I
think
we
probably
need
to
get
more
information
from
the
administration.
If
it's
a
concern,
as
the
mayor
indicated.
N
Thank
you
and
I
think
I
think,
there's
just
to
the
point
of
housing
loss
mitigation.
I
think
there's
the
cascading
effect
where
lonnie's
team,
absent
of
additional
support
for
new
money
would
have
to
have
to
stretch
further
and
take
on
new
tasks,
while
the
others,
such
as
housing
loss
mitigation,
oftentimes,
would
would
be
pushed
back
absent
that
additional
support
so
cindy
gus
jensen.
I
appreciate
you
for
bringing
up
that
context
and
I
know
we'd
be
happy.
N
We'd
be
amenable
to
whatever
the
council
desires
as
it
relates
to,
even
if
it's
not
tethered
to
three
ftes
but
a
lump
amount,
that's
allowable
with
hud
and
running
through
a
temp
agency
or
whatever
gets
everyone
comfortable
about
the
continuity
of
those
positions
and
that
when
the
funds
expire,
the
positions
cease.
K
So
I
don't
remember
if
you
gave
us
a
memo
or
or
could
you
give
us
a
memo,
so
the
council
has
the
most
current
information
about
what
what
works
so
that
we
can
just
get
that
out
to
them,
because
I
think
right
now
we're
in
a
little
bit
of
limbo.
F
N
Sure
thing
I'm
happy
to
put
that
together
in
a
memo
and
get
that
to
you
as
soon
as
possible.
So
there's
a
if,
if
you're
amenable
to
it,
what
I'd
love
to
do
is
kind
of
lay
out
some
of
the
things
that
present
been
presented
today.
N
That
we
think
are
a
part
of
that
package
of
solutions
and
put
whether
that's
a
outside,
consultant
or
internal
need
around
that
to
then
have
it
in
your
court
to
say:
here's
what
we
prioritize
or
want.
K
T
Yes,
there
is
a
a
follow-up
discussion
on
budget
amendment
number
five
that
was
tentatively
scheduled
for
tonight,
but
we
didn't
have
any
follow-up
questions.
We
could
absolutely
kind
of
hold
action
on
that
item
until
next
week.
I
think
action
on
some
of
budget
amendment
number
five
was
anticipated
tonight,
but
I
think
we
could
absolutely
use
that
follow-up
information
and
act
on
that
item
next
week.
T
N
Yeah
and
chair
and
executive
director,
please
know
I'm
I'm
deeply
motivated
by
the
potential
to
have
that
discussion.
I
know
it
would
be
a
welcome
holiday
gift
for
some
of
the
divisions
and
and
the
growing
workloads
in
can
I
I
know
2020
has
been
a
has
been
a
trying
year
for
everyone,
but
being
able
to
do
some
of
these
things
that
we've
presented
today
in
a
timely
manner
would
be
such
a
exciting
gift.
A
Okay,
great
well
yeah.
I
think
if
we
can
get
that
updated
memo,
then-
and
we
can
schedule
more
time
on
the
8th
so.
A
Okay,
if
there
are
no
other
questions
on
this
item,
we
are
agenda.
Item
number
five,
which
is
a
tentative
break.
We
also
do
have
a
let's
see:
oh
yeah,
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
do
a
20
break,
and
so
everyone
just
meet
back
here
at
10
after.
S
At
its
november
17th
meeting,
the
city
council
received
an
informational
update
on
local
emergencies,
including
covid19,
as
well
as
updates
on
efforts
to
help
those
experiencing
homelessness
and
efforts
related
to
racial
equity
and
policing
discussed
an
amendment
to
the
city's
budget
adopted
a
ceremonial
resolution
with
the
mayor
declaring
november
20th
as
transgender
day
of
remembrance
in
salt
lake
city
and
december.
1St
is
world
aids
day
and
heard
from
the
public
on
a
variety
of
issues
to
learn
more
visit.
Slc.Gov
council.
O
A
virtual
community
conversation
on
the
rising
rate
of
hate
crimes
in
the
united
states
and
utah
was
held
in
partnership
with
the
salt
lake
city,
mayor's
office,
the
salt
lake
city,
public
library,
the
united
jewish
federation
of
utah
and
their
partners
against
hate.
This
timely
panel
discussion
was
the
second
virtual
event
in
the
community
conversation
series,
where
leaders
in
national
organizations
joined
together
to
address
critical
questions
about
the
growing
epidemic
of
hate
crimes
and
hate
incidents.
B
O
Shop,
safe
shop,
small
shop,
local,
the
holiday
season
is
upon
us
and
now
more
than
ever,
local
businesses
need
your
support.
Covet
19
has
made
for
a
challenging
year,
but
businesses
are
working
to
keep
their
customers
safe
by
offering
unique
services
like
online
ordering
curbside
pickup
shopping
by
appointment
and
more
as
you're
thinking
about
creative
and
unique
gifts
for
your
loved
ones.
Consider
shopping
locally
or
supporting
a
small
business
for
every
dollar
spent
locally.
O
S
The
mayor
and
city
council
are
in
the
middle
of
a
multi-pronged
effort
to
improve
accountability,
equity
and
transparency
in
policing.
It
began
this
summer,
as
city
leaders
built
the
annual
budget.
With
these
goals
in
mind,
one
of
the
steps
the
council
put
into
motion
was
an
audit
of
the
police
department
budget,
followed
by
a
process
called
zero-based
budgeting,
which
is
an
exercise
that
examines
police
budget
from
the
ground.
Up
and
with
us
is
the
chair
of
the
council,
who
also
represents
the
city's
third
district.
Chris
wharton
welcome
hi.
A
This
audit
is
going
to
help
us,
as
council
members
determine
on
on
a
very
specific
and
detailed
level,
exactly
where
taxpayer
money
is
being
spent
on
police
resources
and
how
that
money
is
is
allocated
how
it's
used,
where
the
areas
that
are
being
funded,
what
isn't
being
funded-
and
it
just
gives
us
a
very
a
much
more
detailed
view
of
the
inner
workings
of
the
department.
A
A
We
have
just
just
finalized
or
are
finalizing,
who
are
going
to
be
the
auditors
for
this,
and
then
the
audit
will
begin
immediately
thereafter
we're
hoping
to
get
started
later
this
month.
S
Can
you
talk
more
about
zero-based
budgeting
in
general
and
how
it's
going
to
help
in
this
specific
process.
A
Sure
so,
zero-based
budgeting
is
a
little
bit
different
than
the
way
we
typically
do
budgets.
We
typically
do
a
base
budget
where
a
department
will
come
to
us
and
say
this
is
what
you
have
given
us
in
the
past.
This
is
what
we
anticipate
our
needs
will
be
for
this
year,
and
this
is
why
why
we're
asking
for
this
amount
for
this
year
and
a
lot
of
the
discussion
really
focuses
on
the
difference
between
what
the
department
currently
has
and
what
they're
asking
for
moving
forward.
A
A
zero-based
budget
starts
with
the
premise
that
the
department
has
zero
dollars
and
then
you
every
you
slowly
add
on
top
of
that,
all
of
the
things
that
the
department
needs
and-
and
so
it
allows
the
council
to
really
scrutinize
that
money
and
make
sure
that
that
we're
accounting
for
every
dollar
that's
being
spent,
and
it
allows
us
as
council
members
to
have
more
visibility
on
the
inner
workings
of
the
department
and
to
make
decisions
to
that.
Regarding
funding
that
reflect
the
values
and
the
goals
of
the
city.
S
A
We've
heard
from
the
public
a
a
huge
outcry
from
the
public
in
this
last
year
is
that
they
want
more
transparency
and
accountability
from
the
police
department.
They
want
to
know
what
exactly
the
the
police
are
doing,
what
resources
they're
using
and
how
are
the?
How
are
police
officers
held
accountable
to
the
public
and
a
lot
of
that
comes
down
to
to
like
other
areas
that
are
outside
the
budget,
but
a
lot
of
it
is
really
tied
to
what
the
budgetary
resources
of
the
department
are.
A
Yeah
so
once
the
auditor
is
finalized,
they
will
work
with
council
staff
and
administrative
staff
and
the
police
department
to
to
go
through
all
of
their
and
just
the
daily
operations
of
the
department
and
find
out
where
and
how
money
is
being
allocated
to
meet
those
operations.
A
S
A
Yes,
absolutely,
and
we
hope
that
they
will
they
can
go
to
slc
council.com.
That's
the
city
council's
website
and
they'll
be
we'll
be
posting
information
there
about
updates
regarding
policing
and
equity
and
we'll,
of
course,
have
our
public
discussions
in
all
of
our
city
council
work
sessions
and
formal
meetings.
They
can
also
follow
the
what
the
city
is
doing
through
the
commission
on
racial
equity
and
policing.
A
We
hope
that
that
group
will
also
have
input
on
this
process
moving
forward
and
the
time
when
it's
really
going
to
start
to
where
we're
going
to
really
want
to
hear
input
from
residents.
Is
it
at
the
start
of
budget
season
which
it
will
be
in
the
spring
of
2021,
usually
kind
of
those
discussions
start
around
april
or
may
and
carry
on
into
june?
That's
when
we
have
to
finalize
the
budget.
S
Great.
Thank
you
so
much
for
for
taking
the
time
to
talk
with
us
about
this.
A
Yeah,
thank
you
for
having
me
and
and
thanks
for
for
bringing
this
issue
to
the
public's
attention.
S
Vice
president
joe
biden
had
convened
his
first
meeting
of
the
cancer
moonshot
task
force,
hoping
to
establish
a
road
map
to
curing
cancer
in
the
world
over
the
course
of
the
rest
of
the
year.
Vice
president
biden
brought
together
an
unprecedented
number
of
cancer
researchers,
hospitals,
survivors
and
stakeholders
to
help
chart.
That
course,
no
fact-finding
mission
to
cure
cancer
would
be
complete
without
a
trip
to
salt
lake
city
to
hear
from
those
at
the
huntsman
cancer
institute
and
on
february
29th
2016.
S
S
Vice
president
biden
delivered
his
report
and
then
in
december
of
2016
congress
passed.
The
21st
century
cures
act
authorizing
1.8
billion
dollars
in
funding
for
the
cancer
moonshot
over
seven
years,
while
cancer
is
not
yet
cured.
Local
researchers
like
the
huntsman
cancer
institute,
continue
their
work
to
stop
it
and
in
november
of
2020,
joe
biden
was
elected
to
be
the
46th
president
of
the
united
states
vowing
to
continue
the
government's
work
on
this
project.
J
J
J
T
Sorry
and
budget
amendment
number
five
was
on
the
agenda
for
a
discussion.
We
had
pulled
it
because
there
weren't
many
follow-up
items
ben
did
clarify
with
me
that
there
actually
isn't
adoption
scheduled
for
this
until
next
week.
T
So
we
do
have
a
few
days
to
figure
it
out,
and
he
also
clarified
that,
where
we
landed
last
week
with
the
hand
positions
was
or
the
last
time
we
discussed,
it
was
that
the
grant
funded
positions
would
be
adopted
by
the
council,
but
the
positions
from
the
hiring
freeze
would
not
so
the
grant
funded
positions
would
be
funded
and
but
through
the
grant
fund,
so
that
when
the
grant
ended,
the
positions
ended.
So
it
wouldn't
affect
the
staffing
document,
but
that
the
hiring
for
these
positions
would
not.
T
So
maybe
what
we
can
do
with
hand
or
sorry
with
can
in
the
next
few
days
is
clarify
based
on
the
earlier
discussion.
If
that
is
still
the
you
know,
the
most
ideal
sort
of
mix
of
things
or,
if
there's
a
better
way
to
handle
that,
but
for
the
council
adoption
as
it
relates
to
the
housing
mitigation
loss
and
other
other
housing
stuff
discussion.
So
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that,
because
I
I
told
you
guys
that
those
adoptions
get
booked
for
tonight,
so
I
apologize
yeah.
A
That's
okay!
Okay!
Thank
you
for
that
update,
slash
clarification,
so
we're
at
agenda
item
number
seven,
which
is
a
joint
city
council,
mayor
resolution
establishing
electrified
transportation
goals,
and
for
this
we
have
sam
owen
from
the
council
office
policy,
our
analyst
for
the
council
office,
vicki
bennett
from
sustainability
and
debbie
lyons
from
sustainability.
A
So
I'll
go
ahead
and
start
with
you
sam
and
then
we'll
turn
it
over
to
to
vicki
bennett.
O
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Just
a
few
brief
introductions
on
this
resolution.
Regarding
electrified
transportation,
the
council
is
receiving
its
first
briefing
regarding
an
electrified
transportation
resolution
proposed
by
the
administration.
O
The
resolution
is
proposed
to
be
adopted
jointly
as
soon
as
december,
8
2020,
pending
council
feedback
and
approval.
The
resolution
would
express
support
for
the
following
elements
becoming
or
being
reinforced
through
city
policy
in
relation
to
electric
vehicles,
in
addition
to
some
others
not
listed
here
I'll
just
read
some
of
the
policy
positions
that
are
supported
in
the
resolution
that
conventional
fuel
reduction
and
fiscal
responsibility
are
compatible
and
mutually
supportive
goals.
That
reduction
of
fossil
fuels
would
improve
air
quality
and
stabilize
long-term
success
of
our
community.
O
That
public
health
would
benefit
from
propagation
of
electric
vehicle
usage
by
the
city
and
corresponding
reduction
in
fossil
fuel
consumption.
That
historically
disadvantaged
or
marginalized
groups,
face
the
most
serious
impacts
from
poor
air
quality
that
increased
electrification
and
transportation.
Technology
is
needed
to
achieve
deep
reductions
in
greenhouse
gas
emissions
and
that
the
salt
lake
that
salt
lake
city
is
responsible
for
providing
infrastructure
for
safe
and
reliable
travel
options.
O
For
residents
and
visitors
that
support
a
robust
economy
and
minimize
negative
impacts
of
transportation
again,
those
are
policy
positions
that
are
articulated
in
the
resolution.
Finally,
the
resolution
goes
further
to
propose
a
series
of
goals
related
to
city
fleet
composition
in
terms
of
electric
vehicles,
other
transit
goals
in
terms
of
collaboration
with
uta,
the
utah
transit
authority,
equitability
in
terms
of
access
to
electrified
and
smart
mobility
services
and
the
development
of
electric
vehicle
charging
infrastructure.
O
Again,
these
are
our
goals
that
are
articulated
in
the
resolution
clauses
at
the
end
after
the
warehouse
clauses,
staff
understands
that
specific
budget
figures
or
requests
related
to
these
goals
have
not
been
developed
at
this
point,
so
those
are
just
kind
of
higher
level
goals.
They
don't
necessarily
have
those.
You
know
mechanical
or
budgetary
details
worked
out
at
this
point.
So
with
your
leave,
mr
chair,
I'd
turn
it
over
to
the
administration
to
discuss
the
resolution
further
and
for
questions.
A
Okay,
vicki
bennett.
Did
you
have
anything
you
wanted
to
add.
H
I'll
turn
it
over
to
debbie
in
a
moment,
but
just
as
a
overall
to
frame
this
realizing
that
we
do
have
the
goal
that
has
been
set
in
previous
resolutions:
80
reduction
in
greenhouse
gas
emissions
by
2040.
This
would
be
one
arm
of
that.
You
know
we're
having
good
success
when
it
comes
to
finding
ways
to
to
decarbonize
our
electric
grid.
H
We
are
looking
now
at
the
other
areas
that
we
can
try
and
improve
upon
one
of
them
being
transportation
and
how
we
can
reduce
the
amount
of
fossil
fuels
there
and
then
the
other
one
we
are
doing
some
internal
work
and
investigation
on
is
how
we
could
potentially
electrify
buildings,
because
so
much
of
our
fossil
of
our
air
emissions
and
use
of
fossil
fuels
is
from
natural
gas
burning
and
all
of
our
homes
and
buildings.
So
we're
also
working
on
that
so
I'll.
Let
debbie
go
into
a
little
bit
more
detail
on
this
resolution,
though,.
C
So,
as
has
been
mentioned,
the
electrified
transportation
resolution
is
a
joint
resolution,
we're
proposing
with
the
city
council
and
the
mayor
just
serving
as
a
formal
expression
of
supporting
electrified
transportation
as
one
important
piece
of
the
puzzle
in
meeting
our
carbon
reduction
goals.
That
vicky
mentioned,
especially
as
we're
making
steps
in
powering
our
city
and
our
community
with
clean,
renewable
energy,
and
we
certainly
recognize
that
people
move
around
in
all
sorts
of
ways
and
getting
around
by
bike
and
walking
are
probably
the
least
impactful.
C
But
we
also
rely
on
motorized
transportation
and
whether
it's
by
public
transportation,
our
own
vehicles,
ride
sharing,
and
we
know
that
on-road
transportation
accounts
for
almost
20
percent
of
our
energy-related
carbon
emissions
as
a
community
and
that
almost
fifty
percent
of
the
fine
particulate
matter
during
inversions.
So
through
2019
and
2020.
The
sustainability
department
worked
with
the
fleet
committee
and
city
departments
to
develop
the
resolution
and
establish
the
goals
that
will
advance
electrified
transportation
in
our
community.
C
And
the
resolution
focuses
on
three
areas
of
action.
For
the
city.
One
is
electrifying
our
internal
fleet,
second
working
with
our
partners
to
electrify
the
public
transportation
system
and
third,
pursuing
policy
and
programs
that
advance
public
adoption
of
electric
vehicles.
So
this
resolution
is
just
an
important
way.
We
can
show
our
joint
commitment
to
focus
on
electrified
transportation
as
one
important
and
necessary
solution
to
addressing
climate
change
and
improve
our
air
quality.
C
Making
that
would
be
the
most
financially
makes
sense
makes
sense
in
the
financial
scheme
of
things.
So
with
that,
I
would
turn
it
over
to
you
guys
if
you
have
any
questions.
A
Council
members,
any
questions
or
comments
on.
A
This
okay,
great
well,
it
doesn't
look
like
it.
So
thank
you,
vicky
and
debbie
for
being
with
us,
and
thank
you
sam
for
for
introducing
that
discussion.
A
A
And
who,
let's
see,
is
taking
us
through
this,
oh
bridgette
from
the
city
council
office,
is
going
to
take
us
through
this.
D
C
All
right
so
amanda,
if
you
could
please
pull
up
the
internal
calendar
and
internal
just
refers
to
it,
shows
like
holidays
school
dates,
travel
things
like
that,
so
the
council
can
sort
of
see
from
a
bird's
eye
view
what
you're
scheduling
around
and
I
will
go
ahead
and
walk
through
the
list
of
questions
and
conflicts
if
that
works
for
the
council,
okay,
so
every
year
we
get
this
to
you
around
this
time
and
we
try
to
post
it
by
the
end
of
december.
C
So
for
january,
the
first
question
I
have
for
you
is
that
typically,
the
council
holds
a
workshop
or
retreat
and
then
sometimes
again
in
the
fall,
some
possible
dates
for
that,
although
it
is
typically
discussed
by
the
incoming
chair
and
vice
chair,
you
can
do
that
on
tuesday,
the
26th
or
there
are
the
thursdays
as
well.
A
That
I
think
we
should
probably
just
let
that
be
set
by
the
next
chair.
F
A
Good
feedback,
anyone
else
yeah
same
is
true
for
me,
but
okay,
we'll
let
the
new
chair
make
that
decision.
C
Alrighty
and
then
next
is
a
reminder.
Fyi
of
the
mayor
state
of
the
city
address
I
know
kovid
could
potentially
throw
a
rent
in
some
of
those
plans
or
just
change
those
generally
it's
held
at
the
end
of
january,
and
if
the
mayor
does
choose
to
do
it
during
a
council
meeting,
it's
typically
been
placed
during
opening
ceremonies.
B
A
Okay,
well,
I
guess-
and
maybe
we
should
just
tentatively
plan
on
the
19th
and
then,
if
there's
a
problem,
the
we
can
figure
that
out
in
early
january.
C
All
right
next
up
just
some
dates
of
note
for
january
the
holidays,
martin
luther
king
jr
day
and
then
the
19th.
The
state
legislative
session
is
scheduled
to
begin
the
19th
this
year
and
that
just
changed
recently.
A
C
And
then
are
there
any
other
mental
flags
that
were
thrown
for
january?
Should
we
move
on
to
february.
C
All
right,
then,
for
february
the
only
real
date
of
note
is
the
narrow
conference
you'll
see
that
for
travel
for
this
document
this
year
I
put
originally
scheduled-
and
that
was
for
just
to
indicate
that
with
covid,
these
dates
were
set
before
covet
happened,
so
these
dates
could
change.
They
could
be
a
hybrid
format,
we're
not
sure
yet.
D
C
On
to
march,
the
only
conflict
to
note
is
nlc,
which
again,
the
format
could
change.
Typically,
the
council
has
adjusted
the
meetings
to
accommodate
that
conference.
Would
you
like
to
do
that
again
this
year,
mr
chair.
M
Yes,
the
nlc
meeting
the
congressional
city
conference
will
be
virtual
in
march
again,
okay,
that
was
announced
at
this
year's
city
summit,
and
I
would
ask
that
we
still
block
off
that
tuesday,
I'm
pretty
sure
I'll
be
pretty
busy
during
even
it.
If
it's
virtual,
and
so
I
would
ask
that
we
rearrange
that
tuesday
february
or
march
9th
date.
F
No,
mr
chair,
but
I
I
think
I
would
agree
with
councilmember
fowler,
but
I'd
also
extend
it
to
the
year.
I
think
maybe
we
just
plan
ahead
as
if
they're
all
going
on,
because
they
may
be
virtual
and
then
we
could
adjust
if
you
too,
I'm
guessing.
Second
half
of
the
year
is
more
likely
to
have
actually
in
person
conferences,
but
customer
recovery
is
the
point
that
a
lot
of
us
may
be
participating
virtually
in
the
conferences
anyway.
C
Okay,
so
I
will
get
that
adjusted.
So
would
you
want
the
rda
and
work
session
on
the
16th
and
then
add
a
formal,
or
would
you
like
to
have
an
rda
work
session
on
the
16th
and
then
a
work
session
informal
on
the
23rd.
J
J
M
I
don't
know
that
he
was
planning
on
it,
but
I
just
it
can
sometimes
depending
I
don't
know
what
the
agenda
for
rda
would
look
like
in
march,
but
it
can
get
a
little
packed
if
we
try
to
do
rda
plus
work
session
plus
formal,
I
mean
we
do
it
sometimes,
but
my
suggestion
would
be
unless
there
is
any
sort
of
timing
issue
which
we
can
double
check
with
danny
our
rda
staff
to
put
the
rda
and
work
session
down
to
the
23rd.
A
C
J
C
April
so,
given
council
member
johnston
just
asked,
the
apa
conference
is
in.
C
Oh
yes,
this
is
yes
a
little
bit
tricky
with
the
council
like
to
adjust
the
may
4th
rda
and
work
session
meetings.
This
timing
just
gets
a
little
bit
tricky
with
budget
setting
the
dates
and
the
mayor's
budget.
A
J
M
Would
there
would
it
be
possible
to
do
since
work
session
formal
session
for
may
4th
falls
on
an
apa
conference
day
that
someone
may
or
may
not
want
to
attend?
Could
we
move
that
work
session
informal
session
up
to
the
27th,
and
maybe
somebody
in
our
council
staff
can
tell
me?
Would
that
may
fourth
be
the
anticipation
of
the
the
budget
briefing,
the
first
budget
briefing
or.
K
K
M
M
J
A
Okay
and
everyone,
okay
with
that,
just
leaving
that
one,
since
it
is
the
last
day
of
the
conference.
C
And
then
a
note
I
did
have
for
april.
Sorry,
I
didn't
make
it
over
to
this
questions
document.
The
ulct
mid-year
conference
typically
takes
place
the
end
of
april,
but
no
dates
were
posted
as
of
about
a
month
ago.
So
we'll
keep
an
eye
on
that
and
get
back
to
you.
J
C
Now,
moving
on
to
may
we
have
a
similar
situation
that
we
had
this
year
and
that
there
are
this
year
there
are
four
tuesdays,
and
typically
there
are
five.
This
year
the
council
confirmed
a
thursday
meeting
to
accommodate
times
four
budget
briefings.
Would
you
like
to
do
that
again
this
year.
A
C
C
Is
there
per
usual
we've
marked
all
of
them
as
tentative
that
way,
we
can
it's
pretty
easy
to
confirm
them.
If
you
need
it,
there's
a
would
you
like
a
certain
thursday
as
of
right
now.
J
C
T
I
was
just
gonna
say
I
think
sometimes
the
first
couple
thursdays
feel
a
little
bit
premature
to
sort
of
have
a
lot
of
those
extra
discussions.
So
I
would
say
you
could
probably
cancel
the
first
two
thursdays,
but
keep
you
know,
keep
the
last
couple.
Maybe
maybe
even
cancel
the
third
thursday,
but
you
can
always
add
it.
I
guess
is
the
other.
The
other
thing
it's
just
nice
to
have
people's
schedules
kind
of
locked
out,
but
it
also
is
up
to
you
guys.
C
C
T
I
was
just
gonna
jump
in
the.
The
state
law
has
bumped
back
the
deadline
to
for
the
council
to
adopt
the
budget
to
the
end
of
june.
I
think
from
a
practical
perspective,
and
especially
from
the
perspective
of
if
there
were
to
be
a
mayoral
veto,
and
then
we
have
to
work
through
that
process.
It
really
helps
the
city
minimize
dysfunction
by
the
council,
adopting
by
like
that
third
tuesday
of
the
latest,
and
so
or
actually
I
guess
in
this
case
it
would
be
the
fourth
tuesday.
T
K
K
If
you
get
to
the
15th
we're
we're
barely
alive
by
the
22nd,
I
don't
know
that
any
of
us
will
still
be
standing
so
the
22nd
and
29th,
I
would
say:
let's
try
not
to
have
a
meeting.
Then
if
you
have
three
meetings
in
june,
that's
one
more
than
is
in
policy.
K
K
K
M
N
K
T
I
think
it's
always
it's
always
safe
to
go
in
the
annual
calendar
with
what
we
think
we're
gonna
do
and
then
we
can
you
there's
no
prohibition
against
adding
meetings
right.
It's
just
a
matter
of
getting
council
schedules
cleared
so.
A
Let's
keep
the
up
until
the
15th
is
what
I
think,
and
it
looks
like.
No
one
is
opposing
that
so.
C
On
to
july
and
august
keeping
with
the
council's
practice,
you
typically
only
schedule
two
meetings
during
those
month,
two
months
to
accommodate
schedules.
Both
meetings
will
include
work
sessions
and
formal
meetings,
and
then
an
rda
meeting
will
be
on
the
second
tuesday
and
then
an
fyi
just
sort
of
that
is
bunched
into
july
and
august.
Cip
needs
to
be
adopted
by
september
1st,
and
so
the
council
may
just
want
to
consider
only
meeting
four
times
between
july
and
august
may
not
provide
enough
time
for
cip.
C
Discussions,
let's
see
and
then
on
to
july,
specifically
asking
that
we
need
to
find
out
here.
The
council,
like,
I
said,
typically
avoid
scheduling
more
than
two
meetings
and
then
also
avoid
scheduling
near
summer
holidays.
K
G
F
C
Again,
just
that
reminder
that
cip
needs
to
be
adopted
by
september
1st
in
august.
If
needed,
the
council
would
need
to
hold
a
truth
in
taxation.
Hearing
staff
requests
that
date
early
in
the
year
and
we,
but
ultimately
the
the
county,
confirms
that
hearing
date
and
that's
with
the
the
tricky
one
that
it
can
be.
The
only
item
on
the
agenda
that
night
so
we'll
typically
like
have
a
6
p.m,
formal
meeting
and
then
a
7
p.m.
Truth
and
tax
or,
however,
you
decide
to
choose
that
timing.
J
M
Sorry
bridge,
if
I
interrupted
you
please
go
ahead,
can
we
move
the
rda
work
session
informal
session
from
the
10th?
That's
an
election
day.
T
And
this
is
where
we
get
into
a
little
bit
of
trouble
with
the
truth
and
taxation
hearing,
because
it
has
to
be
held
on
a
tuesday.
It
has
to
be
held
before
the
17th,
which
in
this
case
is
good
because
we
actually
have
a
tuesday,
the
17th,
but
I
have
to
check
and
make
sure
with
the
county
that
no
one
else
has
scheduled
theirs
for
that
day.
So
I
will
do
that
tomorrow,
if
you
guys
decide
on
that
schedule,
but
I
may
be
back
to
you
if
they
tell
me
no.
A
C
Typically,
you
have
to
meet
14
days
after
an
election,
and
so
that
would
be
the
24th
okay.
I
T
T
I
T
So
the
process
is
actually
the
applications
are
actually
reviewed
by
a
citizen
board,
starting
actually
pretty
soon.
In
fact,
maybe
even
now,
they're
due
in
sometime
in
december,
the
citizen
board
meets
in
january
and
february
makes
their
recommendation
to
the
mayor,
and
so
what
you
guys
get
is
actually
a
fully
a
full
package
from
the
recommendations
from
the
citizen
board
and
the
recommendations
from
the
mayor.
T
So
you
don't
necessarily
need
to
go
through
each
and
every
application
and
discuss
each
and
every
one,
although
sometimes
you
have
pretty
lengthy
conversations
about
one
or
another,
and
so
that's
how
your
discussion
is
focused,
and
you
know
it's
really
ranged
in
some
years
some
years
it's
been
a
very
long
discussion
where
the
council
has
had
very
different
approach
from
the
administration
in
other
years.
The
council
is
pretty
comfortable
with
what
the
administration
recommended,
and
so
it's
a
pretty
short
conversation,
and
so
it
kind
of
just
depends.
L
C
M
I
think
that
would
be
a
good
idea
and
then,
but
I
think
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
can
have
the
truth
and
taxation
on
the
17th.
So
I
don't
know
if
we
tentatively
put
a
work
session
and
formal
session
on
the
17th,
but
keep
the
one
on
the
third
as
well
in
case.
We
can't
do
truth
and
taxation
on
the
17th
and
need
to
do
it
on
the
third.
T
Sorry
say
that
councilmember
johnston.
T
Yeah
the
only
issue
with
that
third,
the
tuesday,
the
third
council
member
follower,
was
that
I
think
I
heard
earlier
that
that's
the
night
out
against
crime,
which,
depending
on
covid,
sometimes
has
more
community
events.
T
Right
and
maybe
what
we
can
do-
and
we've
done
this
in
years
past
when
we've
had
unpleasant
surprises
from
the
county,
is
just
amend
your
annual
meeting
calendar
because
we,
we
do
tend
to
know
pretty
well
in
advance,
you
know,
usually
by
february
or
march
what
the
what
the
date
reservations
look
like.
So
we
can
do.
M
C
J
C
C
And
it
typically
has
not
conflicted
with
a
council
meeting.
So
that's
more
of
an
fyi
see
in
october
no
conflicts,
just
some
travel
to
know
the
narrow
conference
and
real
dilution,
which
is
at
the
end
of
the
month
and
goes
into
the
beginning
of
november.
C
Oh
that's
right.
The
nlc
city
summit
was
originally
scheduled
for
november
17th
through
november
20th
in
salt
lake.
We'll
keep
an
eye
on
that
to
see
what
that's
going
to
look
like
with
coded.
C
I
think
that's
all
we've
got
so
I
will
make
those
changes
and
send
it
for
final
review
to
counsel
just
for
any
final
flags
that
may
have
come
up
or
any
final
questions
or
conflicts,
and
I
will
keep
track
of
those
notes
to
follow
up
on
with
scheduling
dates
like
for
truth
and
tax
and
then
at
the
end
of
the
document,
an
fyi
of
lots
of
school
dates
for
anyone
who
may
need
to
reference
them.
A
A
Report,
I
I
don't
have
any
reports
for
today.
Andrew
do
you
have
any.
J
A
Okay,
so
council
members,
we
do
have
a
closed
session
scheduled
and
it's
anticipated
that
we'll
hear
about
pending
or
reasonably
imminent
litigation.
Does
someone
want
to
make
a
motion?
Oh
katie,.
M
I'd
like
to
prove
that
we
go
into
a
closed
session
for
purposes
of
pending
litigation
and
advice
of
counseling.